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- 0:00And welcome to Main Point. It's Danny Martinetti, heard
- 0:02across all the stations each and every Sunday morning.
- 0:06And it's a special Sunday. Mother's Day is in effect.
- 0:10So I want to wish everyone, those that are to be those that
- 0:14have passed, including my Mama, Giovanna, happy Mother's Day and
- 0:18really take care of mom today. Every day you should be taking
- 0:22care of mum and May is also an important aspect in the state of
- 0:28Maine and just national. It's May is mental health
- 0:32awareness month and I wanted to bring on a good friend of main
- 0:37points, Justin Chenette. He is a senior director of
- 0:40public relations and advancement, which sweets her to
- 0:44really go over the importance of this month.
- 0:46But every day should be a mental awareness day.
- 0:50Justin, thank you so much for joining me here.
- 0:53How are you doing? Good to see you, Danny, or good
- 0:56to hear you. I, I know, so we, we were
- 0:58talking behind the scenes and I don't have a video.
- 1:01We're on teams and he has a video, I have the audio.
- 1:05So he gets to see me and I get to hear him and the whole
- 1:08audience gets to hear this. Informative main points and
- 1:12always good to, to have you on and where I set it up.
- 1:16You know, May mental health awareness month and I had you on
- 1:21last and previous months. The numbers keep climbing.
- 1:25I mean, on average we're looking at 223,000 adults in Maine have
- 1:30a mental health condition. You know, 36% of Maine's roughly
- 1:3455,000 high school students, that's almost 20,000 reported
- 1:40feeling sad or hopeless. And there is hope there is
- 1:45advancement in the mental health and how we're approaching it and
- 1:49Justin's going to really give us an update on that.
- 1:53For those that are not familiar with sweets are by all means
- 1:57tell us about that and just the importance that sweets are has
- 2:01been doing. Well, Main Mental Health
- 2:03Awareness Month is a perfect opportunity.
- 2:05To talk about. This, you know, we envision a
- 2:07world where mental health stigma is eliminated and access to
- 2:11treatment and recovery is possible for all.
- 2:14That's a a high bar, but we, we do that on a number of different
- 2:18fronts. We served over 12,000 main
- 2:21children and adults last year alone.
- 2:24It really speaks to the need across our state and, and, and
- 2:28quite frankly, sweepsters reach, you know, we have things like
- 2:31our walk in clinics, we call hope and healing centers located
- 2:36in Brunswick, Lewiston and Sanford.
- 2:38That's an example of coming in right off the street same day,
- 2:42getting access to mental health support, which in the past has
- 2:45been unheard of, right. So, you know, you spoke a lot
- 2:48about the data points. You know, there are real people
- 2:51behind those data points. And the reality is, access to
- 2:55treatment and support can sometimes be a barrier, and
- 2:58we're all about breaking down on those barriers, trying to
- 3:02connect people to the treatment and the support that they
- 3:04deserve. Yeah, and it's trying to meet
- 3:06them where they are. And the approach has always been
- 3:11would Switcher to, you know, expand to bring the need into
- 3:17your community. And I encourage everyone to
- 3:20first and foremost go online. You can go switzer.org.
- 3:25But where it is mental Health Awareness Month, the crisis line
- 3:30is always available. I've had to use it.
- 3:33You know, don't be ashamed if you have to use it for a friend
- 3:36or for a loved one for that matter of a crisis because we
- 3:39all experience that sometime during our life.
- 3:43Text or call 988. And in Maine, it connects you
- 3:46with trained crisis counselors and if needed, local crisis
- 3:51response teams from organizations just like Sweeter
- 3:55and expanding as I just preluded to the opening up the Support Me
- 4:00Peer Center in Brunswick, this is a deal breaker.
- 4:04This is great talk about the peer center and the
- 4:08groundbreaking open in there and and how we're able to now help
- 4:12those in the Brunswick area. I'm so excited about this
- 4:16because there's not many things in life that are free, and
- 4:18particularly when it comes to accessing mental health support,
- 4:22that can sometimes be a financial barrier.
- 4:24And so the Support Me Peer Center is a free community
- 4:28resource, not just for Brunswick, but the wider area.
- 4:32It also serves the counties of Saganahawk, Knox, Waldo and
- 4:35Lincoln. But you can walk in off the
- 4:37street and get connected to individuals who have lived
- 4:41experience with either a mental health or challenge.
- 4:45So these are individuals that are trained to have sort of
- 4:48mutual connection and community. And so this center is really for
- 4:53the community. And so the purpose of the center
- 4:55is to create that welcoming, judgment free space where people
- 4:59can just share, they can connect, they can support one
- 5:02another in all stages of their recovery journey.
- 5:05We find when you are surrounded by like minded people,
- 5:09individuals that have been there, done that are also
- 5:12struggling, that sort of mutual connection can foster better
- 5:16outcomes. And so this is not necessarily,
- 5:19you know, a replacement for clinical treatment, but it can
- 5:23aid in your recovery journey by creating a sense of belonging.
- 5:27And so we do that through like daily peer run groups, life
- 5:31skills workshops, one-on-one support.
- 5:34And again, the staff are really trained to have these
- 5:38conversations and to meld their own personal experiences with
- 5:42mental health or substance use with that training to be able to
- 5:46aid in those that are coming through the door.
- 5:47And the location is right on 329 Bath Road in Brunswick.
- 5:52It's switchers Hope and Healing Center.
- 5:54And you just heard Justin say that it is free.
- 5:57They're open Monday through Friday, 8:30 to 4:30.
- 6:01If you want to give them a call and reach out 373-3005.
- 6:07But I encourage you to go online because you're able to see all
- 6:10of the information, some of the peers, the team years that are
- 6:14really making this happen. And it's a safe space for
- 6:18everyone. The workshops, you just need
- 6:21that extra one-on-one support and it's like minded individuals
- 6:26there a judgement free zone where where you can continue to
- 6:29do this. And I know through the years
- 6:31that I've been speaking with sweet Sir, this is kind of the
- 6:35innovation. This is what you have been
- 6:37trying to do for years to come. And opening up one of the hope
- 6:41and healing centers is huge for that location in rural Maine.
- 6:47Talk about, you know, someone that is kind of going through
- 6:51something right now, you know, having that life experience.
- 6:55There's no shame in mental health and where it is.
- 6:59Mental health awareness month, Justin, I want you to explain to
- 7:02the listeners that there really isn't any shame.
- 7:04It's the brave work is accepting it and just reaching out because
- 7:09you're not alone. No matter what someone says,
- 7:12you're alone. You're not, because there's a
- 7:14huge support system out there at their fingertips, Justin.
- 7:19Absolutely. And you know, sometimes even
- 7:21just not knowing what you need can feel like a barrier to
- 7:24starting the process, right. It's like you, if you know you
- 7:27need help in some way, you don't have to know all the acronyms,
- 7:32you don't have to know all the programs.
- 7:34You don't. You just need to know if if
- 7:36you're ready to start that journey with folks that care
- 7:39about you and have your best interest in mind, like it's
- 7:43about starting that. And and that journey could start
- 7:47with a call, but sometimes even calling and feel anxiety
- 7:50provoking, right? And so that's why texting is an
- 7:54option, right? You had mentioned the 988
- 7:56number. You can text that you don't have
- 7:58to call it. So if you feel like calling
- 8:00gives you anxiety, text that, you know, our hope and healing
- 8:04centers are great because you can just walk in.
- 8:06You don't have to schedule an appointment, right?
- 8:08Because even that can feel like a barrier, right, Walking off
- 8:11the street. We have a whole team, we call it
- 8:13the Access team, but they're really, they're really heroes in
- 8:16my mind because they really, they, they take you where you're
- 8:20at and say, let's find something for you that fits you, fits you
- 8:24where you're at in your life and, and fits treatment and
- 8:28support around all the things that are going on in our lives,
- 8:31right? We're all busy, even folks that
- 8:32are going through or want to go through recovery with either for
- 8:36a mental health challenge or substance use disorder.
- 8:39And so how can treatment fit into their life?
- 8:42Well, we have a team that'll work with you.
- 8:44We'll find the placement, we'll find the, the, the right fit for
- 8:47you based on where you're at in that moment.
- 8:50It's about tailoring the treatment and the experience to
- 8:53fit you in your life. That's what that team does.
- 8:56And so I just love the work that our access team does every
- 9:00single day. And so they're the team that can
- 9:02support you in this journey and give you care coordination.
- 9:06Nicely said, Switzer is my guest this morning.
- 9:09That is Justin Jeanette with Switzer and I'm going to
- 9:13piggyback and come back from break because there's also a
- 9:16great substance use intensive outpatient program there as well
- 9:20that I want to cover. Danny Martin, Idio host here on
- 9:23main points, really recognizing those that are are going through
- 9:28mental health. You're not alone.
- 9:30If you need to call the Promise line to reach out 800-4343 8000
- 9:37and if you're in a crisis right now, text or call 988.
- 9:42More of the conversation. We come back on main points.
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- 10:45Switzer's Justin. Jeanette here for mental.
- 10:47Health Awareness month text. Or call 988 to reach.
- 10:50Confidential judgement free. Emotional support 24798. 8 is
- 10:55the mental health version of 911 for.
- 10:58Rapid mobile crisis intervention Switzer is the largest provider
- 11:02of mobile crisis services, meaning we come to.
- 11:05You We envision a world where mental health stigma is
- 11:07eliminated. And access to.
- 11:09Treatment and recovery is. Possible for all.
- 11:12Text or call 988. You are not alone.
- 11:14Sweetser. There are more than 29,000
- 11:17Mainers living with Alzheimer's and over 51,000 caregivers who
- 11:21dedicate millions of hours of unpaid care.
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- 13:30Item Welcome back to main points good morning to you happy
- 13:33Mother's Day to those mothers to be mothers that are in the
- 13:38process of dealing with the children and of course those the
- 13:42mothers that we've lost recognize my mom, Mama Martin
- 13:46Eddie MI Amore, my love, miss in love Mother's Day today and also
- 13:53an important day and an important month for that matter
- 13:56it it's mental health awareness month and wherever you are we're
- 14:01speaking with sweet Sir, a very timely conversation and we were
- 14:06just discussing the breakthrough that is undergoing here and the
- 14:10support me peer center in Brunswick where we just went
- 14:14over also has a new substance use disorder program there.
- 14:21Let's talk about this because you'd mentioned it's tailored if
- 14:25someone may have mental health in this case if someone has a
- 14:29new substance use disorder talk about and it's called the IOP
- 14:34program that's there in in Brunswick.
- 14:38And we talked a lot about different acronyms, but IOP
- 14:41stands for Intensive Outpatient program.
- 14:43It's a fancy way to say this is a program that can fit around
- 14:47your busy life, right? Folks that have substance use
- 14:50disorders are also busy parents. They're busy potentially working
- 14:55a daily job. They're they're doing other
- 14:58things in life. They might be going to school.
- 15:00So it's really important that there are programs available to
- 15:04go through the treatment journey where it can wrap around all
- 15:08those daily life responsibilities.
- 15:10That's what this program is all about.
- 15:11So it's really structured with sessions that are delivered in
- 15:15three hour blocks, three days a week, a total of 6 weeks.
- 15:18So it's, it's very intensive for that short amount of time, but
- 15:21we find is what's really, really helpful is this is through
- 15:24really individual and group therapy sessions.
- 15:28So again, creating that sense of community and connection is
- 15:32really important. Other individuals that are going
- 15:35through something like you so that you know that you are not
- 15:39alone in this journey. It's so important to share those
- 15:42mutual experiences and challenges with folks like
- 15:47yourself, fellow peers. And I think that's really a
- 15:50crucial part of the recovery process.
- 15:53And this is particularly beneficial for those who may not
- 15:56require like an inpatient level of care or a medical or
- 16:00environmental concerns around like living at home.
- 16:04So this is around not having necessarily to go to and live at
- 16:09a facility. You can just do this treatment
- 16:12alongside your daily responsibility.
- 16:14So anyone 18 or over can participate in this.
- 16:17And again, as you mentioned, it's at our Brunswick Hope and
- 16:20Healing Center. It's attached to our peers
- 16:22center. We have a full service pharmacy
- 16:24there. It's one stop shopping.
- 16:25So I think this is a good entry point for those that might need
- 16:29substance use disorder treatment and then you can get access to
- 16:32the broader range and comprehensive range of various
- 16:35mental health services and peer support.
- 16:37Yeah, and find out really all the information,
- 16:39sweetser.org/peer Center, and we're talking about the Hope
- 16:45Center here. They're open Monday through
- 16:48Friday, 8:30 AM to 4:30 PM on 3/29 Path Rd. in Brunswick.
- 16:54And you know, just to be able to tailor that is important.
- 16:58And, and thank you for going over all the criteria and it's
- 17:01at your fingertips that you can see for yourself and, and with
- 17:06getting the treatment. Are people getting the substance
- 17:10use treatment they need, or are you finding that it's still a
- 17:14stigma? I think this is really
- 17:17staggering. According to the federal
- 17:19government, According to SAMSA, nearly 17 percent, 48 million
- 17:25people had a substance use disorder in the past year, but
- 17:30only one out of five of those people who needed treatment
- 17:34actually received it. That's that that means a
- 17:37majority of people who have substance use disorder are not
- 17:41getting the help and the support that they need.
- 17:43That's just staggering to me and I think speaks to a number of
- 17:48different fronts. One, there's still a stigma
- 17:51attached to not just mental illness, but substance use
- 17:54disorder, and particularly stigma attached to seeking out
- 17:58help, admitting that there is an issue and then taking action
- 18:02afterwards and having the right supportive community around you
- 18:06and organizations to wrap around services.
- 18:09So access to care can also be a factor.
- 18:12And This is why having our substance use IOP out of
- 18:15Brunswick. This is why having our free peer
- 18:18support centers important, because maybe your entry point
- 18:21into getting help is a free visit to the peer support
- 18:27center. It's knowing that there's other
- 18:28people like you. It might be a free call to our
- 18:32free peer support line, which is a 24/7 hotline that's staffed,
- 18:38again, with people with lived experience who are not going to
- 18:41judge you. Who's going to be understanding
- 18:44of where you're at in this moment in your life and is going
- 18:48to just be there to listen to you, right.
- 18:50That might be your entry point to then getting the clinical
- 18:54support that you need. Yeah, and that's all.
- 18:57Everyone is shaped and and differently on how they process
- 19:01things mentally and if you don't maybe don't like large crowds,
- 19:05you don't want to do that. You know.
- 19:07Pick up the phone and have that conversation with someone or
- 19:10text and sweetser will meet you with those needs.
- 19:14But by all means, do not go with it and say I'm going to get
- 19:18through this. I got this other day.
- 19:19We've seen the news articles, We've seen the recent news
- 19:22events about, you know, the killing of innocent people and
- 19:27mental health seems to be the core of it.
- 19:30It's preventing anything like this forever happening.
- 19:35And we're seeing it increase, not just in Maine, across the
- 19:38United States, across the world. And getting it locally here is
- 19:43what's important. We want to take care of our
- 19:45Mainers. We want to take care of you.
- 19:48You've lived in Maine and you've maybe lived in Lewiston and you
- 19:53live there for over 40 years, for example.
- 19:57A lot of influence is coming there.
- 19:59Justin, where I'm going with this Sweetser in Lewiston, I
- 20:03want to go over to look at Lewiston.
- 20:06It's become the largest certified community behavioral
- 20:10health clinic and that's another acronym, CCBHC and it's.
- 20:15After Lewiston based common ties mental health services recently
- 20:20merged mouthful there lot to unpack talk about this and and
- 20:25and really the need and how we're able to bring more help
- 20:27now to the Lewiston area. Absolutely.
- 20:30Well, we stepped up when the Lewiston community needed us
- 20:34most and we opened the Hope and Healing Center there, a walk in
- 20:39care clinic. Again, that speaks to this walk
- 20:42in care model, which again, that fancy acronym is CCBHC.
- 20:45You don't have to remember that acronym.
- 20:47All you have to remember is walk in care for your mental health,
- 20:50right? And so the Hope and Healing
- 20:51Center has really a blossomed there.
- 20:54It's really, again, Lewiston is an underserved area.
- 20:57There's a lot of mental health need.
- 20:59And so we're seeing daily walk insurance people come in and off
- 21:02the street at our location at 20 Mollison Way, right next to just
- 21:06in time recreation. And so we're excited the fact
- 21:09that common ties mental health who as you mentioned have been
- 21:12around for nearly 40 years has merged into the sweets or
- 21:16family. So there's 300 plus clients of
- 21:19theirs that are now sweets or clients.
- 21:21There's some 15 staff members that have joined the Suitzer
- 21:25team. And so that really strengthens
- 21:27our operations at our Hope and Healing Center, meaning we can
- 21:30serve more people. More people are being served.
- 21:34That matters. It matters to reducing barriers
- 21:38to accessing care, and it also matters to the legacy that we're
- 21:42leaving behind where we're in a moment where it's just hard to
- 21:46be a behavioral Health Organization, let alone a small
- 21:491. And so it really makes a lot of
- 21:51sense to have this smaller organization really team up with
- 21:55a much larger provider like Sweetser to be able to continue
- 21:59serving people. That's the most important that
- 22:01there's no disruption of care. And that peers support line 24/7
- 22:05from anywhere in Maine is 866-771-9276.
- 22:11So 866771 warm, WARM and it's toll free anywhere in Maine 24
- 22:20hours a day, seven days a week. And offering those mutual
- 22:24conversations with that trained peer specialist who has those
- 22:28life experiences with mental health recovery.
- 22:32So you're dealing with someone that may be on the same page on
- 22:35what's going on in your mind and being able to to give you the
- 22:40help that you need. Looking at this, you know, what
- 22:43does this really say about the state of behavioral health
- 22:47system in general in Maine and and really talk about how sweets
- 22:51are you just gave a great example is stepping in and
- 22:55helping those. Well, I, I think it, it speaks
- 22:59to the fact that there's, there's so much uncertainty.
- 23:02There's so much uncertainty coming out of Washington in in
- 23:06many cases and and state funding can continue to be a challenge.
- 23:11There's also a competition for a shrinking behavioral health
- 23:13workforce. It's hard to be in this
- 23:16business, quite frankly, in this field.
- 23:18And So what we find is the individuals that are, you know,
- 23:21doing this work really want to be there.
- 23:23They really care about the work. They're clearly not in it for
- 23:26the money. It doesn't, it doesn't always
- 23:28pay the best, but they do it every single day because they
- 23:31know they're making a difference in people's lives.
- 23:34And in some cases and in many cases, they're saving lives.
- 23:37And, and I think that the fact that you can go home every
- 23:41single night, you can go to bed knowing that you made that kind
- 23:44of difference is very impactful. So there's a lot of purpose
- 23:47driven people in behavioral help, but it's hard for smaller
- 23:51organizations right in this present moment.
- 23:53There's just not knowing what comes next, not knowing if
- 23:57funding is going to be available and being reliant on, you know,
- 24:01state or federal grants just to keep the doors open for people
- 24:05that need treatment. It can be a challenge.
- 24:07So, you know, larger organizations have a little bit
- 24:10more flexibility to weather, you know, some financial headwinds
- 24:13and and some of that uncertainty.
- 24:14And so that's why, you know, organizations like Commentize
- 24:17identified suites are as really a good provider to, to step up
- 24:20with and to to merge with. But I think you're going to
- 24:23start seeing other smaller behavioral health organizations
- 24:26make a similar decision just because we have we're in this
- 24:30together. You know, we're a small state
- 24:32and we all have to band together to make sure Mainers of all ages
- 24:36get the access to the treatment and the care that they need.
- 24:39And it starts with that conversation really go online
- 24:42from, you know, you can call the crisis line, peer support line,
- 24:45find a therapist, mental health training.
- 24:48And if you're an adult, there's children and families peer.
- 24:53Their services, the training institute and most importantly,
- 24:56their 501-C3 nonprofit supporting the needs of Switzer
- 25:02helps this organization continue for many years to come.
- 25:07You know, the vision on how this was all started, the philosophy,
- 25:11the background, the story of Switzer, It really goes back to
- 25:15the 1960s. And that's when, you know,
- 25:18Sweeters children's home, you know, was set up and and from
- 25:22there it evolved. It evolved and it customized.
- 25:25And Justin, as you stated here this morning, we were able to go
- 25:28over some of the new groundbreaking programs that are
- 25:32now in Brunswick and the counties out there were the need
- 25:36is now along with the whole state of Maine as we wrap up
- 25:41main points. Thank you.
- 25:42We've unpacked a lot of information.
- 25:44The podcast is going to be available, but all the links
- 25:49will be there. sweetser.org. That's sweetser.org and the
- 25:57Promise Line 804, three, four, 3000 and don't forget 98824
- 26:05hours a day, no matter what time it is.
- 26:07This is airing AT5530 in the morning.
- 26:09Doesn't matter. Someone is there for you.
- 26:13And as we wrap up this main points, maybe speak to the
- 26:17listeners and give someone that may be going through a struggle,
- 26:21what would you say to them that may be listening and saying I'm
- 26:24going through that right now? We hear you, we see you and we
- 26:29value you. Hope is available, recovery is
- 26:33possible and Sweetser can be with you every step of that
- 26:37journey. Thank you so much, Justin.
- 26:40Jeanette with sweets are joining me here to really go over mental
- 26:44health Awareness month and all that they're doing many
- 26:48conversations that we have and main points.
- 26:50Justin really appreciate it. You came on board there about
- 26:53two years ago and more than that and making an impact, you are
- 26:58really making an impact and all the events, all the media
- 27:01exposure because the more exposure we can get out there,
- 27:04the positive exposure in this, the more that sweets are can
- 27:08help those. And that's the important message
- 27:11that I want to take away here on Main Point.
- 27:13So thank you so much for what you're doing and have a great
- 27:16morning. Thank you, Danny.
- 27:20And this has been Main Points right across all the stations
- 27:22here at Portland Media Group. I'll join you next Sunday
- 27:25morning. That's gotten Maine talking and
- 27:29really getting you to the conversation, a healthy
- 27:32conversation, of course, about you, about Maine and about each
- 27:35other. And Danny Martinetti, your host
- 27:38here each and every Sunday morning.
- 27:41Reach out to mainpoints@mainpoints.org.
- 27:44That's main points.org. See you next Sunday.