Tribalism is Dumb (w/Andrew Heaton)

Reasonably Happy with Paul Ollinger · Jul 30, 2025 · 1h 6m

Andrew Heaton is the author of the new book Tribalism Is Dumb and the host of The Political Orphanage podcast. He sits down with Paul to unpack where tribalism comes from, how it is tearing us apart, and how we might fix it. With wit, warmth, and some surprisingly deep evolutionary psychology, Andrew explains how our ancient brains are wired to seek belonging—even if that means choosing teams over Truth. They cover everything from Dunbar’s number to the loneliness epidemic, from the comedy club to Capitol Hilll, and why political identity has become a poor substitute for real community…