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UK Column News Podcast 12th July 2024 · UK Column Radio

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Good afternoon. Today is Friday, the twelfth of July twenty twenty four,
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few minutes after one o'clock or a little bit after one o'clock. Apologies for
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that. Welcome to UK column News. I'm your host Brian Gerrish. With
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me in the studio Mike Robinson, and we're delighted to be joined by Ben
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Rubin. The focus is very much on NATO and politics unfolding, particularly in
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the UK. Well, let's begin with the Nittle Declaration, because a friend
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of mine wrote to me yesterday and said this is probably the most confrontational warmongering
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document that he's ever seen, and I think that is pretty much it.
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So the Summer Declaration has been made, and I think it deserves us going
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through this in a little bit of detail because it is horrendous. So let's
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bearing in mind that this is a diplomatic do commented, and diplomatic language tends
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to be relatively gentle and solved and measured. This is quite incredible. So
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we the heads of state and government of the North Atlantic Alliance, have gathered
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in Washington celebrate the seventy fifth anniversary of our alliance forged to preserve peace.
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So we've got to remember this is a defensive alliance, so as you listen
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to the words here, you consider the defensiveness of it. Forced to preserve
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peace, NATO remains the strongest alliance in history. We stand in unity and
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solidarity in face of a brutal war of aggression on the European continent at a
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critical time for our security. We warmly welcome our thirty second and newest allies,
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Sweden. The historic accession of Finland and Sweden makes them safer and our
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alliance stronger, including in the High North and the Baltic Sea. Every nation
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has the right to choose its own security arrangements. We reaffirm our commitment to
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NATO's open door policy in line with Article ten of the Washington Treaty. So
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Brian right there, despite all the claims that putting his expansionist jishin Ping is
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expansionist, they're openly declaring their continuing, continuing commitment to expansionism. And so
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the expansion to the east is what's causing the problem exactly. So let's go
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on. Then. Russia's full skill invasion of Ukraine has shattered peace and stability
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in the euro Atlantic area and gravely undermined global security. Russia remains the most
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significant and direct threat to alli security. Terrorism in all its forms of manifestations,
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is the most direct asymmetric threat to the security of our citizens and to
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and to international peace and prosperity. The threats we face are global and interconnected.
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So in that paragraph they are suggesting that Russia is behind global terrorism,
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when in fact I would suggest and I think there's a ton of evidence we've
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covered over the last fifteen years, Brian, that Britain, the United States,
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the EU tend to be funding and behind global terrorism. I think the
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evidence has become a overwhelming boike that when you go into these things that the
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West UK us in particular or at the bottom a lot of troubles in the
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world, and the lid needs to be taken off this otherwise it will not
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stop. Indeed, so we continue strategic competition, pervasive instability and recurrent shocks
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to find our broader security environment. Conflict, fragility and instability in Africa in
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the Middle East directly affect our security and the security of our partners. Just
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correct me if I'm wrong, But Tony Blair Institute is very active in Africa
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in the Middle East, Right, Yes, anyway, Okay, have we
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got more trouble in Africa? Yes, we have. Is the EU active
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in Africa? Yes, trouble yes? Where present. These trends, among
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others, contribute to force displacement, fueling human trafficking and irregular migration. So
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we're just going to ignore the fact that we're driving this human trafficking and irregular
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migration and blim it all in the Russians because that's the best thing to do.
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Iran's destabilizing actions are affecting euro Atlantics security. The People's Republic of China
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stated ambitions and coercive policies continue to challenge our interest, security, and values.
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The deepening strategic partnership between Russia and the People's Republic of China, and
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they're mutually reinforcing attempts to undercut and reshape the rules based international order are a
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cause for profound concern. So it's not clear Russia, Iran PRC are the
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main targets of this defensive alliance. So we don't want to have a conversation
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with these people because that might bring peace about it. So we've just got
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to continue to bang the war drums, and of course they are mocking the
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rules based international leader when nobody is ever allowed to know what the exact rules
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are, the purpose of those rules. They go on. State and non
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state actors are increasingly aggressive hybrid actions are using increasingly aggressive hybrid actions against allies.
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We will continue to prepare for, deter defend against, and kinder hybrid
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threats and lenges. We reeriate that hybrid operations against allies could reach the level
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of an armed attack and could lead the North Atlantic Council to invoke Article five
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of the Washington Treaty. So later on in the program, we're going to
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be looking once again at cyber and who is actually behind most of the cyber
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warfare that's going on in the world at the moment, And well this could
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lead apparently to an invocation of Article five only if we attack ourselves, but
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anyway it goes on. We condemn Russia's irresponsible nuclear rhetoric and coercive nuclear signaling,
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including its announced stationing of nuclear weapons at Belarus, which demonstrate a posture
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of strategic intimidation. Let's just remind ourselves that it is the United States that
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has effectively withdrawn from the Intermediate Nuclear Weapons Agreements, and as the United States
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is talking about putting nuclear weapons back into Germany and other countries at the moment.
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So if Russia is talking about putting nuclear weapons in the Belarus, that
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is in reaction. This is in reaction to water the US and NATO is
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doing once again. But don't worry. We're going to tell the entire world
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and the narrative is that it's all Russia that's doing it. Russia has increased
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its reliance on nuclear weapons systems and continue to diversify its nuclear forces, including
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by developing novel nuclear systems and deploying short and intermediate range, dual capable strike
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capabilities, all of which pose a grueling threat to the Alliance. We are
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determined to constrain and contest Russia's aggressive actions and the counter its ability to conduct
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these stabilizing activities towards NATO and Allies. For our next summit, we will
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develop recommendations on NATO strategic approach to Russia, taking into account the changing security
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environment. And they talk about European Union being an essential partner, So this
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is all about EU defense. Union is now back on the agenda, firmly
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back on the agenda, and here we will meet the leadership of Australia,
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Japan, New Zealand and the Republic of Korea, because we've got to expand
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not only eastwards in Europe but also in the Pacific region. The under Pacific
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is important for NATO given the developments in that region directly affect your Atlantic security.
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And with respect to Ukraine themselves, they have agreed to set up the
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NATO Security Alliance and Training for Ukraine, the Pledge of long Term Security Assistance
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for Ukraine, and finally establishment of the Ukraine Joint Analysis, Training and Education
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Center. So I don't know what you make of that, Brian, but
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the rhetoric is extremely strong, and extremely warlike and not defensive in any way,
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shape or form. Well, the word rhetoric covers it all because it
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is rhetoric. And we can see that we've got people who are not interested
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in peace. If they were interested in peace, they'd be talking about peace
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and they'd be talking about pathways to peace. But they're obsessed with Ukraine.
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Because Ukraine must be held at all costs, it must be asset stripped,
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it must be converted to European stalled democracy, whatever that means. And what
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better place to go than a little bit of a video clip here with Defense
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Secretary John Healey talking about Ukraine. General Lodge has just said, look,
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we need we need a view Ukraine in our own strategic interest. He's general,
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He's got that strategic insight. I'm a politician, I put it plainly,
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because I don't think our public and our people fully and properly understand what's
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at stake here. And so some of the arguments I try to make in
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the UK are, especially on the campaign trail with which we've just finished.
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Defense of the UK starts with Ukraine. And that's that's true for us,
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it's true for most of the European nations. It's relevant also it's America's interests
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as well. And that's that's the case because we know that if Putin prevails
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in Ukraine, he's not going to stop there. How do they know that,
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Well, of course they don't. World War III starts with Ukraine.
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There's nothing to do with the defense of Ugay. It's to do with starting
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a world war. But you notice the sneer our people, the public,
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they just don't understand. We're all just little people. We can't possibly understand
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that the UK has helped whip up a horrific war in Ukraine, dead on
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the Ukrainian side, the figure of five hundred thousand being repeated now by many
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analysts, and I could believe this is true. And of course Lensky working
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hard to try and recruit now his third army. Why does he need another
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two hundred thousand men, because, of course the others are dead on the
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battlefield as a result of Conservatives and now the new labor rhetoric. So Biden,
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of course, is the main powerhouse behind NATO. It is the Americans.
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Let's have a look at Boyden in action. I want to hand it
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over to the president of Ukraine, who has as much courage as he has
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determination. Ladies, gentlemen, President Putin, President put You've got to be
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president. Putin, President Lensky. I'm so focused on beating Putin. We
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gotta worry about it anyway. It's President. You are a things much so
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the man we are told has his finger on the nuclear button, who can't
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think, who can't string words together, who can't function as the president of
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the United States. And we are to believe that he is the one manipulating
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politics. That was just one clip. There are many of him. Fumbling
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and stumbling through his words or falling up or down the steps of aircraft.
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But we shouldn't worry because apparently we just don't understand and there's nothing there's nothing
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wrong with Biden. Who should we believe. Let's look at this clip.
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But the Special relationship is so important. It's forged in difficult circumstances, endured
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for so long, and stronger now than ever. So we're very pleased to
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be able to come so early in the government, to recommit to the NATO,
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to recommit to the Special Relationship, and to have the opportunity to discuss
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these affairs with you is really important. Five days in I kind of see
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you guys as the not tying the translating wires together. How closer you are,
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you're more, you're gay for more, because we know where you are,
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and we know where we are at all the countries. I think that's
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that's absolutely right. Well, there we are. There's President Biden talking about
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bits of string, presumably rotten string and granny knots. But at one stage
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Starmer was pressed over the men state of Boyden, and let's see what he
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says. Prome minister, you know what, an increasing number of people are
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saying they're implying that President Biden is senile? Is he No, We had
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a really good bilateral yesterday. We were built for forty five minutes. We
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went on for the best part of an hour. We went through a huge
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number of issues at pace. He was actually a really good form and absolutely
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across all the detail. We were going at pace through a number of issues,
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which was really important to me because obviously it was my first opportunity to
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have a bilateral like that, and he's showed incredible leadership. If there's one
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thing that came out of the Council session yesterday, it was a clear understanding
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by everybody here that we face probably more threats now than we've faced for many
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years, and that we need the resolve of NATO. It's the alliance that's
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been there for a very long time, that defensive alliance, and President Biden
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has has led through that some of the most challenging issues actually that we are
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facing globally. We've seen George Clooney of that suggesting he's not up to it.
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Is that unfair? Well, I've given you my read out of the
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meeting we had. As I say, we covered a lot of ground,
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strategic ground into national stuff and not just Ukraine. He was on good form
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and of course you know various interventions yesterday, we went straight from that to
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the dinner that he hosted, So he was in good form. Not something
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to say when you've been to visit your aging grandparents in the care home.
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Yeah, and you're trying to keep morale up in the family. So my
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opinion is that Starr's happy to look at the camera and just lie about the
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true condition of the US president. That's my personal opinion. People might disagree,
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but something's very wrong. But let's look at something else that's happening in
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the background, which I find very disturbing. It's the power of celebrity.
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Let me ask you something that's on a lot of people's minds. What are
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your thoughts about President Biden? Should he drop out of the race? Could
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he? Yes? He could? Should he? Should he? It's a
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painful papal decision. As I admire the man tremendously. I personally had a
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fundraiser form of maur House in April, and I think he's done an incredible
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job. But I am worried not this week or next week, but let's
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say next year and It's just so hard for me to imagine a man four
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and a half years down the line from now, particularly in the time that's
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so combative, that requires something to really be so articulate. I think the
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most disappointing thing for me in the debate unlessarly how he felt, but the
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inability to acknowledge all the lies that ex President Trump I was talking about.
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Do you think, though, the figures in the entertainment in this through like
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yourself, can bring about real tangible action in terms of President Biden making a
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decision as opposed to statements from politicians in Washington. Yeah, I do think
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so. I mean, I mean, we'd be a bit accused of having
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a little bigger voice than we should have that we're all involved, you know,
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as celebrities. So mister Douglas there expousing the power of celebrities. And
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of course this in itself, whatever you think of Biden, is immensely dangerous
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that the celebrity world should be able to drive politics and keep a president,
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for example, in place who clearly wants war, war, and more war.
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But it's not only celebrities with the power. Let's have a look at
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this headline from The Independent and this is back. In October twenty twenty three,
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Stormer wins backing of billionaire Black Rock chief. He offers hope to British
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politics. Larry Fink, one of the world's most influential financiers, says Labor
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leader has shown quote real strength. But who else have we got in the
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mix? And let's have a look at David Lammy Sky News here with the
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headline everything you need to know about the UK's new Foreign Secretary. But what
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they didn't say is what we can pop up on screen, which is a
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tweet here from David Lammy in August twenty twenty. He says that cultural Marxism
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is going to rule this country. Nigel, that's Nigel Frage. You are
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a racist b and an insult to the history of this country. We're coming
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for you and we will quote we will beach you, silly. There's no
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coming back. So we can be very sure that this very slick new Labor
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two point zero is going to be very very ruthless and dangerous in getting these
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policies through. And that probably brings us to Tony Blair, who is now
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of course the real Queen, the power behind the Starmer throne. But here
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was a headline of some time ago Rupert Murdock needed one hundred thousand dollars to
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the Tony Blair Faith charity, unaware his wife had allegedly grown close to the
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XPM. And in the text, which we won't read, it talks about
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that money and it talks about their mister Blair's relationship with miss Deng. So
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this is the real power. And I think, Ben, that's a nice
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place to bring you in because of course you've been maintaining focus on Tony Blair
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and what he's really doing. Indeed, great to be here everyone. I
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hope you're having a good end to the week. And we're going to talk
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about the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change Future of Great Britain event, and
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we're going to start by hearing from Tony Blair himself. We're going to pose
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a question to him, what is the problem, mister Blair. The problem
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is that we have low growth, low productivity. We've got public services where
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there are high levels of expenditure and poor outcomes. The two things that get
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growth and productivity back are first the types of things that Rachel Reeves was talking
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about yesterday, planning reform, probably a better Brexit deal. These will give
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you short term it should give you a reasonable boost to economic growth. But
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our belief is that the only long term solution to growth, productivity and better
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public services is the full embrace of this technology revolution, which prior to Generative
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AI was already a revolution. And now I think you've got with Generative a
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revolution on top of the revolution existing. So the problem we face as a
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country has got nothing to do with corrupt politicians. It's just about low growth
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and productivity in the markets and high expenditure and poor outcomes in the state.
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And the only long term solution, according to Tony Blair, is the full
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embrace of new technology. This new technology revolution that he talked about at this
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event that he runs is the third year that it's been going for the future
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of Britain twenty twenty four, led by Tony Blair. We've already had a
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little bit of a background from Brian there about Blair's influence over British politics and
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society. But let's just remind ourselves of a couple of couple of gems from
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his back catalogs. So he obviously took us into an illegal war in Iraq
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and then refused to apologize, actually said that he'd do it all again,
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despite the fact that a million Iraqi civilians were killed. He's also a close
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personal friend of the pedophile and rapist Jimmy Savill. And I'm just going to
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leave it there because we'd be here all afternoon talking about the evils of our
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former prime minister. So what's Hee up to these days. Well, he's
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projecting global power right, and he has this thing called the Tony Blair Institute
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for Global Change. And we've heard a lot about change through the recent election,
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Pier and I think that this is where a lot of that change is
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being driven from. It was delivered in partnership with My Life, My Say,
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the UK youth charity that we've talked about extensively that's focused on radically reshaping
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British society. In fact, they have helped to radically reshape British society in
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the general election. They are intimately linked into the top levels of the Labor
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Government. Starmar actually came to the event last year, the Future Great Britain
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event last year and Harjiit Sahota, who's the head of External Relations and Stakeholders
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at the UK Labor party is actually on the board of My Life My Say.
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So you should really understand that this is just one entity that we're looking
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at here. They may have different logos, different departments, different names,
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but ultimately they're all working together towards the same outcomes. Now, because My
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Life My Say was involved, obviously it's all about the youth. So front
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and center. Opening up the day, we had these two young women,
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Sasha Haiko, who is a third year old working on the censorship in the
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censorship space, and then another woman called Aviate Klutz, who has big into
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getting young women into coding. He's just sixteen years old, right, So
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we've got a thirty year old a sixteen year old, neither of whom are
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Native Brits, right, So these are immigrant communities. Young women have been
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brought in and I just see this as a really cynical and manipulative ploy by
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Blair, who is a war criminal, as we've established, to basically provide
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him with their cover, to bernish his reputation, and to basically entice people
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into believing that he's a good guy that's got a good and positive and constructive
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plans for the future of the country. Now they got five minutes at the
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start of the day, right, So we've got to bring the young people
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in. It's all about them. We've got to listen to them. But
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actually we'll get him off stage as quickly as possible and then it's over to
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Uncle Tony. And what does Uncle Tony want to talk about. It wants
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to talk about digital life. He's been talking about this for twenty five years,
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bus right, he is obsessed with the ID scheme. This is the
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ultimate tool for centralized monitoring and control of the population. It's really the end
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game for freedom. You know, at this point you are completely owned and
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controlled by the state. He's obviously got a narrative that's about how great it
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is. It's about raising more money through taxes, saving money from reductions in
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things like benefit fraud, distributing benefits more efficiently during times of crisis, especially
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crises caused by the state. And they talked about this in great detail in
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this thirty three page report that was issued that very same morning. So he's
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actually came out on the day of the Future of Great Britain event. And
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this is something that has been done by in collaboration with the Department of Working
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Pensions and they project that they could free up as much as forty percent of
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work time using AI tools and that could be the equivalent of about a billion
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pounds a year in product witty games. So this is a huge re engineering
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of the British state. Obviously that would have been started that piece of work
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under the previous government and it's now been surfaced today. Is you can see
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how this kind of uniparty moves, policies developed by people like Blair and it's
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implemented by whoever happens to be in government at that moment in time. It
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was done with this organization you can just see it reference there on the slide,
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which is called Faculty, which is another private AI specialist consulting firm.
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It's been working across the whole of central government and I believe this was done
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with internal engagement from inside the Department for Working Pensions. So I think that
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this is something that has been going on in close collaboration between Blair, Faculty
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and the British government. And to build the narrative for this, they brought
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this fellow along, Rejeev Chandrasaka, who is a former Indian minister and a
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self proclaimed digital idea of evangelist, and he describes digital identity as the core,
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the bedrock to a digital government architecture. The Indians have invested a huge
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amount of money in this. They've got one point two billion people on their
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digital government platform and they've dispersed through that platform three hundred and fifty billion dollars
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worth of what he called subsidies. This is why this is really relevant to
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the Department of Working Pensions. They handle benefits. The Indian system handles what
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he called subsidies, and effectively they brought this guy over to help build the
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case to implement this inside government in the first week of a new labor government.
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Right, I mean, you can see how this is really being ushed
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along incredibly quickly, and it's about you know, all of the things that
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they say it's about it about efficiency and delivering better services and all that kind
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of thing. But ultimately it really lends up here, right. You know,
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you will be able to do more with AI than any government has in
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the past. This is about increasing the power of the state. They talk
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about it in terms of efficiency, but I don't see it in that way
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at all. Also worth noting that that system that he was there to talk
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about was built by Emphasis, which is owned by Ricy Zunac's father in law.
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So again you can see the uniparty in play. And it's not just
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DWP, the whole of governments on the block, and it's very much about
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healthcare. For some reason. I can't imagine why this might be. I'm
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sure it's nothing to do with Tony Blair. Britain has become increasingly sick over
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the past five years. So we've seen the number of people off with long
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term sickness go up by eight hundred thousand to two point eighty three million.
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We've seen spending on disability and incapacity benefits go up by a third to sixty
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nine billion. It's now two point five percent of GDP. NHS spending on
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mental health has risen to seventeen billion, it's about ten percent of the total
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NHS budget. But don't worry, We've got a whole load of new medical
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breakthroughs, new innovations in preventative care. Preventative healthcare this is the new buzzword.
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You're hearing it absolutely everywhere. Basically means algorithmic surveillance, testing, genetic
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engineering. All of this is focused on addressing some of the biggest killers,
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So cardiovascular disease, obesity, cancer, you know, good things for us
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to try and combat. But if you actually look back at the slide,
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you can see that it's all about promoting pharmaceuticals like zen pic rna, cancer
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vaccines, all of the kind of big blockbuster items that the big pharmaceuticles are
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trying to push out there into the system. Apparently that would save us a
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load of money. You know, this is about half of the NHS budget
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goes against those three diseases. So again it would be a great thing to
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focus on, but ultimately, like what are the methods and are being presented
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here for us to go after it? And actually a lot of this really
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very crudely and cynically about economic growth. So we heard this a lot.
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You know, we're talking about healthier people, but that's ultimately about delivering a
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healthier economy to deliver healthier public finances. Right, so for these people,
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we are basically economic units and taxpayers, and our health system is a public
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private marketplace. And where Streeting was perfectly happy to turn up and endorse that
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worldview, basically saying there is an obvious mutual interest between the public and private
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sectors. It's not reductive. The private sector companies need to make a profit,
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that's fine. If you can marry the brightest minds in UK science and
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health tech with the scale of the NHS, the sky is the limit in
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terms of what we can do. Lord Bethel was very happy with this.
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He welcomed Starmer and Streeting into government last week basically saying that a lot of
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the work has already been done for us to transition to a twenty first century
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model of care. The grand work has been laid out. There is a
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stack of thoughtful white papers and HS plans and review recommendations ready for implementation,
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including documents like this one which came out from the Blair Institute earlier on this
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year, which is forward written by Patrick Balance, who's just been dropped into
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a ministerior role working under West Streeting. And just finally to wrap up,
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I'll come back to this later. There's a huge amount to cover on this
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today. This incredible statement from Streeting, which I think really just does a
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great job of describing the tone that we should expect to see from the Labor
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28:29
to change, Okay, Well, I think that gives us a clue where
28:33
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well, is that Texas and Texas to hearing. Well, it's going
30:06
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viewers that we put the UK column News together very shortly before we actually go
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live, and we don't plan a lot of things, but it's amazing the
30:21
connectivity. So, Ben, you've been talking about Tony Blair and digital ID,
30:26
you've also been talking about a new national purpose harnessing data for health.
30:32
Well, a letter arrived through my letterbox. Let's have a look at it.
30:34
Here it is dear mister Gerrish. As part of our national Hearing Health
30:38
campaign, you were invited for a free hearing test and I think Mike and
30:44
the rest of the team will be pleased about this because I do have some
30:47
issues. It was due to cannon fire during my naval days. But this
30:52
is what it said. So of course a lot of it is the cell
30:56
you're complaining that TV is too loud to other people, difficulty hearing people in
31:00
restaurants, cafes and pubs, etc. And then it says that I can
31:06
use a free number to book a free hearing test. Presumably I won't get
31:10
a free hearing aid, but there we are, and it's signed by Chris
31:14
Child, head of Audiology Excellence. Now I was very intrigued because I thought,
31:19
okay, where did the National Hearing Health Campaign get my data from?
31:23
Well, let's have a look at the letter again, and what we need
31:26
to do is to go into the small print and it says we've sourced your
31:32
details from Saga City Data Limited. Now I'd never heard of that company at
31:37
all, so of course I went and did my own research. It's all
31:41
very nice. There's the little cartoon for the adults to suck them in,
31:45
But the little man is walking past some really big clients, from virgin O
31:51
two to British gas guy McMillan, Eon, BT Titan, the Cooperative Bank.
32:00
What sort of company is it? Well, when you get into the
32:01
detail, you find that it's not just about data, it's also about essentially
32:07
revenue collection. It's making sure that if you owe money, these companies can
32:14
get that money. If we have a look at partners, agencies and investors,
32:17
apologies runs a little bit slow, but these are some of the people
32:22
that they've got for partners. Equifax Media Lab that was very interesting, but
32:28
also Royal Mail, which probably gives us connection with my own letter, but
32:32
it says we're one of the most data rich organizations in the UK. But
32:37
I did notice that one of the investors was Queen Park Equity, which I
32:42
believe is a hedge fund. Mike, I don't understand it. So let's
32:45
have a look at where this hearing test led me. This is some of
32:50
this kind of play there we are. This is some of their own advertising
32:55
material on the website reducing gap sites and increase revenue. This is a project
33:00
or a case study two point six million. There's case studies up to twelve
33:06
million. And this is all about revenue stream so it's profit and making sure
33:12
you can claw back in any debts over to the company. And as we
33:15
can see, there's some pretty big sums of money. But where I really
33:20
started to suck in a bit of breath was here. Our ethos were a
33:23
purpose led company and we believe that purpose comes before profit. Do you understand
33:30
that, because I didn't quite. We believe that if we achieve our purpose,
33:34
then everything else will follow. They don't say what that will be,
33:37
but here we are working across all territories, and look at the scale of
33:44
those territories over which data is being sucked into this company and also given out
33:50
to other people to use. I'm going to be asking some questions about what
33:53
data they hold on me in the first place. But let's continue the picture.
33:59
And it's a little bit dark here, but we're into equity with Queen's
34:02
Park. What are they all about? Well, it says here that we
34:07
buy to build by focusing on entrepreneur led businesses with accelerated growth potential. And
34:15
then if we get further into their website, they give a big support piece
34:21
for Saga City itself, saying that it's a leading provider of tech enabled customer
34:27
data management solutions predominantly to the utilities, telecoms, and financial services sector.
34:35
So I'm going to be doing more on this. But that just shows you
34:38
what you can get out of one simple letter which appeared to be able to
34:43
concern for my health and in particular my hearing. But I think this was
34:46
a classic example of not only the move towards identity of every human being,
34:53
but of course the value of data that these companies are sucking up. Looking
35:00
on the topic of data and bulk data collection, now we've covered the issue
35:04
of Huawei in the past and whether Huawei is going to be allowed to put
35:07
any of its equipment on telecoms networks in the UK. That's obviously banned now,
35:14
but Germany is also getting on the bandwagon. So this was from yesterday
35:17
from AFP. Germany said Thursday it will faiz out the use of components from
35:22
Chinese telecoms chants, Huawei and Zte in its five G networks in the coming
35:27
years due to national security concerns. Now, who is behind this a claim
35:32
of national security concerns with respect to Huawei, Well, of course it is
35:37
our old friend Christopher Steele, who had not only pushed the Trump dossier and
35:42
there was not a word of truth in that, and pushed the Russia dossier
35:45
and not a word of truth in that either, but also pushed the dossier
35:51
and of course this was claiming that the Huawei was orchestrating a covert campaign to
35:55
manipulate MPs in the United Kingdom. So we have talked about Unit eighty two
36:04
hundred in the Israel in the past as well with respect Huawei and so on.
36:08
I'm going to go back and look at this again today and look at
36:12
a slightly different aspect of it. So just to remind you, Unit eighty
36:15
two hundred is the Israeli Signals Intelligence Agency, the equivalent of the NSA and
36:21
the United States or GCHQ in the UK. And when we covered this in
36:24
the past, we were particularly interested in their connections to Checkpoint, in the
36:30
fact that they had provided the seed capital and the finders for Checkpoint and Checkpoint
36:36
effectively being one of the key network providers of fire walls, of routers and
36:42
other things on the Internet and so on, and in corporate networks as well.
36:45
But today we're going to have a look at the other organization that we
36:50
highlighted in the past, which is Palo Alto Networks. And well, Palo
36:53
Alto Networks was funded or at least co founded by this gentleman and near Zuk
37:00
and this is their description of him. They say that he brings a wealth
37:04
of network security experience and industry experiences to Palo Alto Networks. Prior to co
37:08
founding Palo Alto Networks, he was CTO at NetScreen Technologies, which was acquired
37:13
by Juniper Networks in two thousand and four, and prior to net Screen,
37:17
Near was co founder and CTO at one Secure, a pioneer and intrusion prevention
37:22
and detection appliances. Near was also a principal engineer at Checkpoint Software Technologies and
37:29
was one of the developers of stateful inspection technology. And the key point here
37:32
is that he was also at one point prior to all this an employee or
37:38
a conscript to Unit eighty two hundred and that provided the seed funding for one
37:45
Secure, for Checkpoint and for Palo Alto Networks. So the question then is
37:51
what are what are these organizations, these companies, and what is their relationship
37:55
to the intelligence agencies? Just as if, by the way, a couple
38:00
of years ago he moved back to Israel, so he is back in that
38:04
country doing whatever he's doing there. Now, let's just bring this on screen.
38:09
This was an expose by Harets. This is going back to September last
38:15
year revealed Israeli cyber firms have developed an insane new spyware tool no defense exists.
38:23
And what they're talking about here is a HERETS investigation which they say reveals
38:29
that the Israeli cyber companies developed technology that exploits the advertising system at the heart
38:34
of the online economy to monitor civilians, hack into their phones and computers and
38:38
spy on them. This terrifying capability against which no defense currently exists, has
38:45
already been sold to a non democratic country. And the point here is that
38:50
the approval for this was given by the Israeli government and the Israeli Defense Ministry
38:55
itself. The company that's behind this, also supported by Unit eighty two hundred
39:01
seed funded, is called Incident Limited. Incinet Limited. They don't even have
39:07
a website, they're that covert as it were, but they are selling spyware
39:10
and so on. So the question is what involvement to these companies that are
39:17
seed funded by Unit eighty two hundred and the Israeli intelligence agencies, What purpose
39:22
do they serve actually and what role do they play in the whole cyber warfare
39:29
situation. Now, just to give you a little bit of background, Israel
39:34
has the Israeli National Cyber Directorate and Unit eighty two hundred there is considered to
39:39
be the offensive branch of the israel National Cyber Directorate. So this is totally
39:46
offensive. And on the other side, here we have this organization which is
39:53
considered defensive and I do apologize the name has completely escaped at the moment,
40:00
but anyway, we'll put that in the show notes to make sure that everybody
40:02
knows who the defensive side of the israel National Cyber director is. But just
40:08
to highlight this a bit further, a few years ago, the Intercept published
40:15
this article cash Weapons and Surveillance. The US is a key party to every
40:19
Israeli attack. And this was talking about the offensive cyber warfare capabilities of the
40:28
Israeli government and the involvement of the NSA and GCHQ and contributing to that as
40:35
a result of information leaked by Edward Snowden, and so the you know,
40:40
the key point here is what relationship again, do the intelligence agencies in the
40:47
UK, the US and Israel and their cyber offensive efforts have to the private
40:54
companies. But let's bring this on. Over the last decade, said the
40:58
Intercept, the NSA has significantly increased. The surveillance assistance that provides to it
41:02
is really counterpart the Israeli singand National Unit also known as Unit eighty two hundred,
41:07
including data used to monitor and target Palestinians. In many cases, the
41:12
NSA and ISSN you work cooperatively with the British and Canadian spy agencies GCHQ and
41:16
c SEC. The relationship has on at least one occasion entailed the covert payment
41:22
of large amount of cash. Is really operatives. So why am I interested
41:28
in Palo Alto Networks today? Well, I was watching the Tour de France
41:32
last night and in the ad break an advert came on screen. Let's just
41:37
have a look at it. It was just a regular cybersecurity Monday. That's
41:47
me. I'd seen this before or had I? What was this? AI?
41:58
Treachery? I needed some help. Good thing I knew someone or some
42:06
thing. Glad you call it day, it's time for an upgrade. Awesome.
42:16
My path became clear. I knew what I had to do because they
42:29
never start. No time to waste. This isn't si FU, this is
42:36
precision AI. So Palo Alto Networks now bringing what they're describing as precision AI
42:46
into the whole cyber security field. So I've got a number of questions that
42:52
I think need to be raised. Let's bring them on screen. First of
42:57
all, what is the true nature of the symbolotic relationship apparently symbiotic relationship between
43:01
cyber warfare and cyber defense Because we have an organization unit eighty two hundred pursuing
43:07
cyber warfare with GCCHQ, NSA and so on, while at the same time
43:12
they're seed funding cyber defense organizations. This seems to be symbiotic and a very
43:20
dangerous situation. There are cyber defense company seed funded by Israeli intelligence, bulk
43:25
data collectors for eighty two hundred, NSA and GCHQ, and if they are,
43:30
what's the effect of bringing AI into the equation going to be? Let's
43:35
continue once cyber defense companies like Palo Alter Networks include AI and their offerings,
43:39
does that multiplier diminish the threat? And then the final question is is Huawei
43:45
the enemy or in fact do we face an enemy in our own countries and
43:52
perhaps centered around Israel. I think there are many questions to be asked to
43:54
around this whole sort of structure and this whole capability that's been developed, and
44:01
nobody in the tech industry is asking what the role of these companies actually is.
44:07
Well, I think your concerns are well found. It might have lots
44:10
to be asked because this thing is moving at an incredible pace and in most
44:15
cases outer sight or hidden in plane sight as far as the wider public's concerned.
44:20
So we will continue to focus on it. Ben, let's come back
44:23
to you then and more on Tony Blair. Yes, absolutely, that was
44:30
a great little piece there on UNIIT eighty two hundred. Mike, thanks for
44:32
that. There were two terms that jumped out of me. One was AI
44:36
treachery, because I think that that sums up really nicely a lot of what
44:39
we're seeing here. And then also this word precision, which keeps on reoccurring,
44:44
and actually it came up quite a few times in the tiny Blair event.
44:47
I'm just going to talk through a little bit about what's driving this.
44:50
So we talked about the Blair's desire to or his recommendation that we should be
44:54
embedding advanced technology into the heart of the state. And he does that because
44:59
he's appealing to the success of this technology in the private sector ultimately, and
45:05
We're pointed towards three examples by him, JP, Morgan Chase, so they
45:08
imply an employee over two thousand AI experts. Amazon have reduced their order process
45:14
in times by twenty five percent, so made their operations more efficient and Gold
45:17
and Sachs tells us that a trillion dollars is going to be invested over the
45:21
next few years ergo because those three organizations are doing things. That means that
45:27
everyone else, including the British government, has to jump on board. I'm
45:30
not sure I follow the logic, to be honest with you. Now,
45:34
he also talks about the transformation of the market. So just looking at the
45:39
top fifteen global companies in nineteen ninety seven when he was first voted into power
45:44
versus the top fifteen global companies in twenty twenty four. Obviously the top companies,
45:50
really the top five to ten companies, are all technology businesses, and
45:54
that he is presenting this as some kind of reason for us to embrace these
46:00
technologies. There's absolutely no discussion whatsoever about whether any of that has been good
46:05
for society, the health impacts of mobile phones on kids, any of that
46:09
stuff is completely ignored. It's just purely about top line numbers, size and
46:14
growth, and it's all being waved through with recommendations from people like Bill Gates,
46:21
Andrew McCaffrey at MIT, and rayker As while at Google. So these
46:25
are the big beast, the big names that Blairs reaching out for to build
46:30
his case for change, and he's actually directing the labor government. This is
46:34
in his own words, he's advising labor to talk to Google. This is
46:37
a huge public private marketplace and the delivery is going to be handled by big
46:43
technology companies. And Debbie Weinstein, who is the MD of Google in the
46:47
UK and Ireland, was actually in the crowd. I heard someone did a
46:52
little write up saying that she was there. So you know, if you're
46:54
in government and you want to talk to Google and you're at the Tony Blair
46:58
event and hey look, Debby's just over there in the corner, you can
47:00
go and talk to her. This is absolutely stitched up. It's all global.
47:06
Yes, obviously, this is that Tony Blair is sute for global change
47:10
and as we've discovered and discussed, it's all about a building an international marketplace.
47:15
So this was from one of the the climate sessions. And by the
47:19
way, I suggest anyone with any interest in what's going on internationally and specifically
47:23
here in the UK, go and watch all of these sessions. Right,
47:27
they are talking about you, they're talking about your tax money, they're talking
47:30
about our society, they're talking about their plans for the future. If you
47:35
want to understand what's driving labor, what that word change actually means that apparently
47:39
everyone's voted for. This is where you need to go and look right,
47:44
and a lot of it is to do with the City of London. Ultimately,
47:46
right, this is about driving economic growth. It's about making money for
47:50
big international investment funds you can see on the on the left hand side there.
47:54
It's about driving global investment, so leveraging the City of London's expertise to
47:59
develop nonstand and finance mechanisms and then also to create that they'd say they're in
48:05
the second point to design a national Wealth Fund to support international as well as
48:08
national investment. And that National Wealth Fund was actually announced by Rachel Reeves on
48:15
the same day as the Future Great Britain event. Unbelievable coincidence, that,
48:20
don't you think. And Mark Carney has been incredibly effusive about that fund as
48:23
well, and the fact that it's going to allow public and private money to
48:28
come together to drive change not just in the UK but across the system and
48:31
to unleash global innovation. And it's not just in climate, that is absolutely
48:37
everywhere else. And I think we need to understand the UK. We start
48:40
to understand the UK as a platform or testing out these new programs for transformational
48:47
change that are then also going to be implemented internationally. It's really really important
48:52
to get into the guts of what's going on here. And it is completely
48:55
global. This was a remarkable statement from Ilan Ger, who is the chief
49:00
executive of ARIA, which is the UK version of Darper. He's got eight
49:06
hundred million pounds of taxpayer money to invest in advanced technology project projects and his
49:10
view is that the UK it needs to look out wood, don't look in
49:15
wood. Don't look to your own people, don't look to your own capabilities,
49:17
don't look to your own heritage in your own history. You've got to
49:21
look elsewhere for ideas. Right. What a remarkable thing for someone like that
49:24
to say. And it was also echoed by William Haig, who has basically
49:29
been working hand in glove with Blair for the past year or two, you
49:32
know, really providing the kind of right wing counterpoint to to Blair's left wing
49:37
message, right to provide the kind of integrated uniparty perspective, and he's basically
49:44
saying that in the future we need global solutions, not national solutions. Absolutely
49:50
emphatic and that comes through in everything that we've heard from him. Really interesting
49:55
session by a guy called Chris Miller, who I believe is from stam Thood
50:00
and this is the only one that hasn't been put online, and it make
50:05
it appear in the next few days. But if it doesn't come up,
50:07
then you'll then I'm about to tell you why, because he very interestingly described
50:13
artificial intelligence, microprocessors and microchips in particular as the kind of the playing pieces
50:22
in a big geopolitical game where the American intelligence agencies view this view access to
50:29
those technologies as a way to exercise political control over vassal states. Right,
50:35
so actually, if you play nicely with American intelligence, then they will let
50:39
you have access to the limited number of AI chips that exist out there in
50:44
the market. Really amazing bold statement to come out with, incredibly cynical,
50:49
but very unsurprising given the forum and who was in the room. And the
50:52
other thing that was really interesting here was he, whether he meant to or
50:57
not, revealed the fragility of this entire technological paradigm because this is a global
51:02
supply chain, globally networked, with a tiny handful of countries who actually pull
51:08
the string. So ninety percent of these microprocessors that run the AI systems come
51:14
from Taiwan, for example, which as we know, is a contested region.
51:17
The Chinese believe that they own it, the Taiwanese believe that they don't
51:21
own it and could potentially be invaded at some point in the future. And
51:29
apparently we've got to base our entire system governance economy on the back of technologies
51:36
that are running on this supply chain. I think that exposes us to an
51:39
extraordinary level of risk, completely unacceptable. Really. We also had their Matt
51:45
Clifford, the chairman of ARIA, who was effusive, effervescent about the potential
51:52
for AI to transform absolutely everything. He was really excited about the work that
51:58
he's been doing with UK govern and actually talked about people leaving organizations like deep
52:04
Mind or at Google or open Ai to go into roles in the UK government.
52:08
UK government is now seen as a hot place to go and do techwork.
52:13
I think we should all be really concerned about that, to be perfect
52:15
honest with you. He talked a lot about the actual physical transformation that's going
52:21
to be required in the nation, the fact that we've going to build these
52:23
data centers everywhere, right because the AI systems run on huge amounts of data.
52:28
Where those data centers going to exist, are going to be in your
52:30
neighborhood, are going to be putting these all around the country. A lot
52:34
of that links into the net zero bread that they're building. He also talks
52:38
a lot about the massive increases that we've seen in the past decade in the
52:43
power of these systems. So we can see that between twenty fourteen and twenty
52:47
twenty four the power of the systems has gone up by one hundred million times,
52:52
and so an enormous increase in artificial intelligence power over the past ten years.
52:58
But he then goes on to say, in the next decade, we
53:00
will reach human like general intelligence. Yeah. So it really just begs the
53:07
question to me, is, well, if we're investing all of this money,
53:10
all this time, all this energy in building human like general intelligence,
53:15
what's wrong with the human like general intelligence. We are currently surrounded by I
53:20
E. US. We're already here. Why do we need to build this
53:23
new technological paradigm in order to replace something that already exists. And actually,
53:29
if human level intelligence doesn't currently exist, and it's much lower, So this
53:34
is demis hat Sibbi's saying, human level general intelligence is the goal that we're
53:38
not even at cat level intelligence yet we've got a long way to go.
53:42
Why on earth would we be embedding this into the heart of our state and
53:47
our economy. And particularly when you see things like will I am sitting on
53:52
stage trying to do a demo of an AI chatbot and the whole thing goes
53:57
into a complete meltdown. Something's wrong with this thing, John Sappell losing his
54:00
mind, the interviewer on stage, and actually the whole thing just it looks
54:06
like it's destined to failure. Well, we can hope, yea, we
54:10
can hope. But I'd say to our audience UK column I think and Ben
54:15
in particular doing some really good analysis on what's happening here. If you're looking
54:21
at Tony Blair on stage, of course, remember that he is the puppet
54:25
master for Stormer, so why are we bringing Blair back into the spotlighted is
54:31
because almost certainly this is the man who's driving our new prime minister and moving
54:37
his arms. Whether he can actually influence his brain, I don't know.
54:42
But let's move on to other clues we get as to where society is going
54:46
to go. And I want to say thank you to Kate, one of
54:50
the UK column viewers and a very long term supporter, who pointed out the
54:55
Ministry of Defense's global strategic trend. The Future starts today the sixth edition.
55:02
This is from twenty eighteen. I believe I've just pulled out a couple of
55:07
interesting things, but let's set the scene. First of all, it says
55:10
that it describes a strategic context for defense and security looking out to the middle
55:15
of the century. It takes a comprehensive view of the future derived through research
55:21
headed by the Development Concepts and Doctrine Center. The MOD goes to links to
55:28
say that this only represents the view of DCDC, it doesn't represent MOD opinion.
55:35
But of course it's got the MOD logo their top left. So I
55:38
think this is a bit fancy waistcoats. It does have signatures by people general,
55:45
so Nick Carter and the Permanent Secretary Stephen Lovegrowth. So surprising, isn't
55:51
it an age of digital supremacy that they actually need to get a wet pen
55:54
out and put a smudge on the paper as a Spagnow that those people or
56:00
could do anything else, right, Okay, well, anyway, let's have
56:02
a look at what caught my attention as I scanned two hundred pages. It
56:07
said erosion of state sovereignty. The nation state is expected to remain the primary
56:14
actor in shaping societies and global politics for at least the next thirty years.
56:19
That to me said, after that, there's going to be something different.
56:24
And so now what we're into this is the military working hand in glove with
56:30
civil authorities about the future and how we're going to live. And somebody in
56:37
the chat boxes the news was rolling a few minutes ago and Ben was talking
56:40
said, well, how does all this benefit the UK? Well, the
56:45
answer is all of the AI is not to benefit UK. It is to
56:50
move us through into the next stage of society, which is beyond the nation
56:57
state. I'll leave you to think about that. So pulled out this one
57:00
here we just highlight the paragraph. It says that a whole of society approach
57:07
to defensive and offensive measures in the information space is necessary to ensure protection against
57:14
physical and cognitive attack and subversion of society, for example through legislation and education.
57:22
So what they're telling us here is that we are just not capable of
57:28
looking out the window or scanning through a newspaper and understanding what's real or not.
57:32
The government is going to have to protect us, and they are going
57:37
to have to monitor these systems in both an offensive and a defensive way.
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And that to my mind links into your commentary earlier on Mike. So people
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really should have a look at this. I'll do some more delving into this
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document, but very very dangerous. We've got a blurring now of what is
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military and what is civilian. And I think this boat's extremely badly for a
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future, particularly if it's run by AI working at the level of a cat.
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But let's end on a little bit of black humor, and what better
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place to go than the BBC. Let's just have a look at their fact
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checking team in action. This was the scene in the Ukrainian capital Kiev yesterday,
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parts of a children's hospital totally destroyed. It happened during a Russian air
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strike, but Russia say this damage was caused by a Ukrainian air defense missile.
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Ukraine says it's found remnants of a Russian cruise missile, so who's right.
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Two videos we verified are crucial to investigating Russian claims. In the first
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you can see a huge premium smoke in the distance before a moment of impact.
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The second video is crucial and we've slowed it down so you can see
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this missile moments before impact. So just watch it here and you can see
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that coming down. We'll actually stop and zoom in for you. You can
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see it right there. Now. It's worth bearing in mind this is still
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and it's very blurry freeze frame. But we showed this video to seven weapons
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experts who regularly review grainy footage just like this, and all of them said
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that this is not a surface to air defense missile as the Russians have claimed.
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For example, one of them, Timothy Wright from International Institute for Strategic
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Studies, said the missile speed, angle of attack profile, and especially at
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sound, the sound of a high pitched turbofan is very prominent and a dead
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giveaway and are consistent with an air breathing land attack cruise missile. Now,
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this is a Russian cruise missile, and one of its identifying features is the
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turbo engine at the rear, and that's what some of our experts have focused
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on, particularly this one Andre Gennon, who's one of them, and he
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said it's almost certainly a KH one oh one. The distinguishing feature of that
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missile is the turbofan engine at the rear that juts out, appearing like a
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small box. Now we've overlaid a model of the K one on one on
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top of the freeze frame of the video we showed you earlier. Now nobody's
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been absolutely definitive about the exact missile used, but they all agreed that it
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was likely an air launched Russian missile. Five of the seven mentioned a Russian
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KH one on one as a possibility, in line with what Ukraine has said.
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Well, I'm just going to say that I think this was really a
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brilliant piece of production by the BBC. Because of course they didn't show you
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the evidence of those so called experts. We don't even know who they are.
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They simply choose one that said it was almost certain. But if you
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listen to the whole clip. What this girl is constantly saying is these are
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very very blurry photographs and they're very difficult. But if we just show the
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meat of what the BBC did on screen. So she brought up on her
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very big shiny touchscreen this picture of the missile coming down in shadowy top sort
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of right in the picture. Then the BBC's Russian KH one O one cruise
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missiles as a video moved on. We started to see one overlaid until you
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get to this point wherein the minds of the viewer, overwhelmingly they will believe
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that it was that missile. So this is slight of hand. I'm going
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to say this is BBC witchcraft rather than fact checking. But this is how
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the BBC is attempting to put facts across. So despicable work by the BBC,
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and of course no facts at all, just supposition and interfering with the
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public's perception. Huge amount of questions still to be asked around this particular incident.
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Yeah, okay, well we've got to leave it there for today.
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Thanks to Brian and Ben. We will be back in a few minutes.
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If you a UK column member for extra stick around on the member stream for
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that. Just before we go, I'm going to put up an old UK
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Column News but many of you simply don't know that we used to produce these
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editions. This is twenty thirty, twenty thirteen, and in the cartoon we're
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talking about the cabal destroying Britain with big society, the media gagged, secret
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courts, the NHS wrecked, the military, betrayed, pedophiles protected the police,
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threatened, genocide overseas and banking fraud. And I'm going to say we
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weren't far wrong. And if you want to know more about that, and
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you haven't, you haven't seen the UK Column Live virtual event that we did
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a few weeks ago, you better go and have a look at that.
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That would be great. But otherwise join us an extra where I'm sure we're
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going to be talk about this some more. We will see you then