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Ep. 78 : 2025 Topps Series One Overview · Cards & Categories

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome everybody to episode seventy eight of Cards
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  Speaker 1: and Categories. I'm Mike Coolard, joined as always by my
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  Speaker 1: very good friend Jeremie Brewer from Rasball. How are you
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  Speaker 1: doing tonight, Buddy?
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  Speaker 2: Doing great. I am all thrown off because we're not
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  Speaker 2: recording on a normal day. We are off cycle, which
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  Speaker 2: is exciting because we actually have to sneak in a
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  Speaker 2: good one here today. But I am excited, ready to go.
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  Speaker 2: But I just like I said, I'm just all thrown
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  Speaker 2: off my game. So who knows what's going in store tonight?
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  Speaker 1: I know special circumstances called for a special podcast. You
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  Speaker 1: said it. We are recording this one on February eighth, Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: because we have Tops Series one from twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 1: coming out on Wednesday, the twelfth, so we didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to miss out on providing everybody a preview in advanceage
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  Speaker 1: of that dry and release. It is. The pre order
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  Speaker 1: happened a little while ago, so if you wanted it
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  Speaker 1: straight from tops dot com on Wednesday, you would have
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  Speaker 1: had to get in on that. But there is another
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  Speaker 1: drop of product on tops dot com that should happen
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  Speaker 1: around noon Eastern on Wednesday, and then otherwise the product
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  Speaker 1: will be available everywhere throughout you know, wherever you can
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  Speaker 1: buy baseball cards, hobby shops, targets, walmarts, probably gas stations.
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  Speaker 1: Because it is Series one flagship, it's gonna be anywhere
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  Speaker 1: and everywhere. So we'll give you.
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  Speaker 2: Ballar Tree, yes, stick, Walgreens.
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  Speaker 1: Repacks, eventually the Costco packs. Like, We're gonna get into
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  Speaker 1: as many of the hallmarks of what's going into Series
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  Speaker 1: one as we can, but there's per certainly going to
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  Speaker 1: be more because honestly, as I've been updating the rundown,
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  Speaker 1: even since we last recorded on Wednesday, there's been lots
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  Speaker 1: and lots of like new parallels that have been released
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram and all over the place. So it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of the product that he keeps on given. But before
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  Speaker 1: we get into that, we actually do have a major
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  Speaker 1: piece of news. We broke it during the recording on
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday during that NL East preview with Joey Rico Pete
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  Speaker 1: Alonso going back to the New York Mets for certainly
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  Speaker 1: much less than I think he had anticipated when he
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  Speaker 1: entered this offseason. It is a two year, fifty four
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  Speaker 1: million dollar deal with an opt out after the first
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  Speaker 1: season structured a lot like you know those Cody Belender
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  Speaker 1: contracts and Blake Snell contracts that they had to settle
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  Speaker 1: for last year. Matt Chapman too, as Scott Boris struck
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  Speaker 1: strikes out here with pet Alonso. I mean, Boris has
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  Speaker 1: had a pretty good offseason considering the Sodo deal, But
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  Speaker 1: pet Alonso will be entering his age thirty season and
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  Speaker 1: has certainly been slipping skills wise a little bit at
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  Speaker 1: the plate for the past few years. So this is
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  Speaker 1: kind of the classic corner only guy that I think
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  Speaker 1: modern baseball just doesn't value the same way they used to.
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  Speaker 1: Even though Pete Alonso has remained a very solid slugger
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  Speaker 1: for the Mets over his first handful of years. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: this is a disappointing contract for him. But Brew, what
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  Speaker 1: do you think that this means for Alonzo returning to
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  Speaker 1: the Mets and the fans and Queens.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I think this is the best
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  Speaker 2: case scenario. And that's why it happened, is that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I do have concerns with Alonso and his ability to
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  Speaker 2: maintain when he's done, and his most comfortable spot to
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  Speaker 2: be is in Queens with him that's that's where he's
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  Speaker 2: most comfortable and where he's gonna get the probably the
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  Speaker 2: best production, best support that he could possibly have. So
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  Speaker 2: I think it's good for him. Yeah, I'm I'm actually
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  Speaker 2: not terribly surprised the contract he got, just because I
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  Speaker 2: think there's you know, there's a lot more aura to
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  Speaker 2: Pete Alonso than there is you know, output at this
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  Speaker 2: point in time, and a lot of teams after the
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  Speaker 2: league looks around, go hey, a guy that you know,
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  Speaker 2: over the last two years averaged like two twenty and
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  Speaker 2: hit forty bombs, Like, Okay, where's Joey Gallo? Right? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's that kind of profile. So I think it's the
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  Speaker 2: best thing for him to be back there. It's it's
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  Speaker 2: it's a reasonable contract for a guy that kind of
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  Speaker 2: seems to have faded in his out. It's really more
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  Speaker 2: of the game that he plays has just become devalued.
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  Speaker 2: Over the last three or four years. There seems like
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  Speaker 2: there's more and more players that are fitting in that
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  Speaker 2: mold and players that are able to you know, get
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  Speaker 2: on base, steal the base, make something happen, and keep
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  Speaker 2: this you know, strikeouts down. All those kind of things
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  Speaker 2: are just hard and hard to find. It's not like
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  Speaker 2: he's been bad. He's like he's been twenty percent better
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  Speaker 2: than the may major league average, which is absolutely good.
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  Speaker 2: But he is first base and that's it. That's all
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna do. He's not necessarily, you know, a gold
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  Speaker 2: Glover first base. It's just average. And so hey, if
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  Speaker 2: I'm getting thirty five homers in a two forty average
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  Speaker 2: like we got last year, it's good, but it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: break the bank. So I'm not shocked. But I think
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  Speaker 2: this is the best outcome from him. If I'm projecting
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  Speaker 2: out just to literally take what will happened last year,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take three percent off just for kicks, and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's what I expect from Pete.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this is also a guy who you
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  Speaker 1: can marcel the heck out of when you're doing the projections,
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  Speaker 1: because he's been very solid throughout his entire career since
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  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. You can pencil him in for like one
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  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five games, thirty five homers to fortyish
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  Speaker 1: average and go from there with runs in RBI that
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  Speaker 1: this is gonna be a really dynamic Mets offense. I think.
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  Speaker 1: So it could even be a year where you know,
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  Speaker 1: he starts sniffing the one hundred and thirty one RBI
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  Speaker 1: he puts in put up in twenty twenty two, or
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  Speaker 1: even the one hundred and twenty from his rookie year
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  Speaker 1: back in twenty nineteen, just because he's gonna have Soto
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  Speaker 1: and lindor On in front of him that you got
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  Speaker 1: to think that boosts his value a little bit. So
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  Speaker 1: he currently is going in eighty piece since the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of the year on NFBC. Let me flip it to
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  Speaker 1: Draft Champions instead of the all data around pick sixty
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  Speaker 1: on average, So that is putting him squarely in the
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  Speaker 1: fourth or fifth round. What do you think about that price?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean for me, it's it's maybe like ten
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  Speaker 2: to fifteen picks early. I think there's like a speed. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's the lack of speed, and it's the the average
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  Speaker 2: is gonna be kind of middling to slight drain. And
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  Speaker 2: so I think that there's other like for this, Like
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  Speaker 2: you're talking about the range of guys like Ozzie Albi's,
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  Speaker 2: Marcus Simeon, Jordan Westberg, like other guys that can fill
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  Speaker 2: the stat sheet much better and aren't gonna be that
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  Speaker 2: far off the overall power and overall RBIs that you
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  Speaker 2: can go pick this up later, Like you know, there's
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  Speaker 2: guys later in the draft that can make up for
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  Speaker 2: the slight shortfall you have in those power output categories
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  Speaker 2: much easier than what you're gonna getless speeds, So for me,
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  Speaker 2: bump them back ten, probably fifteen spots from what you're
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  Speaker 2: seeing right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think it's a relatively fair price,
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  Speaker 1: just because we've talked about it over the past couple
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  Speaker 1: of episodes. That first space is really shallow. So if
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  Speaker 1: you do want to give yourself a shot at like
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  Speaker 1: filling that position, setting it and forgetting it, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think you can go wrong with Alonzo that. Like you said,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's a little bit rich, but I can't blame
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  Speaker 1: the price considering what options start coming down the pike
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  Speaker 1: for first base after a couple of rounds that I
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  Speaker 1: can totally understand, especially if if you do pencil in
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of that upside with Juan Soto and
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  Speaker 1: Francisco Lindor hitting in front of him. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think pre solid landing spot for peed, Alanzo will see
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  Speaker 1: what he kind of can do. I mean, I guess
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  Speaker 1: maybe with the contract structure too, maybe it does light
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  Speaker 1: a fire underneath him to be able to produce and
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  Speaker 1: try to hit the market again, so you have to
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  Speaker 1: put that factor in there too. But overall, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's a pretty much same old, same old for peed.
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  Speaker 1: Alonzo can project just about what he's done on average
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  Speaker 1: every year throughout his career, So great landing spot. Okay
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  Speaker 1: with that, let's get right into our overview. A TOPS
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  Speaker 1: Series one from twenty twenty five. This is the first
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five release, I mean not in total of
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  Speaker 1: all baseball cars, because we've been covering the late twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty four releases that have been hitting over the past
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  Speaker 1: couple months, and this is dropping on February twelfth. This
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  Speaker 1: is honestly one of the hallmarks of the beginning of
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  Speaker 1: the season. Along with I received my Baseball Prospectus big
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  Speaker 1: old book. The annual came within the last week. Once
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  Speaker 1: that hits, and then the TOPS Series one releases, it
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  Speaker 1: is prime baseball time, so we've got a great set
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  Speaker 1: here from TOPS. The design I think harkens back a
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  Speaker 1: little bit to like the twenty twenty one we talked about,
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  Speaker 1: but it does have bringing back the white border, keeping
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  Speaker 1: lots of wavy lines. The team name will be on there,
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  Speaker 1: which already is a little bit interesting because I think
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  Speaker 1: they made that move slightly for the athletics. You have
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  Speaker 1: to think that usually they put like the full city
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  Speaker 1: and team name, but they've just dropped the city going
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  Speaker 1: into this design. And then you've also got I think
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  Speaker 1: one of the coolest features on the new design here
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  Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five is that they put instead of
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  Speaker 1: the position, it's got a little baseball diamond on the
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  Speaker 1: corner of the card where there's a dot for the
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  Speaker 1: player's position. What do you think about that, because I
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  Speaker 1: have seen some people who aren't a fan of it.
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  Speaker 1: I think especially it's a little strange for players who
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  Speaker 1: might be like usually outfielders to have to designate an
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  Speaker 1: outfield spot for them, or guys who are utility men.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see how TOPS if there's a
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  Speaker 1: method to the madness on the positioning or if it
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  Speaker 1: is just kind of what they consider to be, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the intern going through the stats in in determining that.
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  Speaker 1: So what do you think about that? Because that is
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  Speaker 1: a new change never seen before, I believe on a
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  Speaker 1: TOPS product where they don't actually list the position.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I I actually kind of like it.
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  Speaker 2: I at first like, I don't, I'm not I'm not
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  Speaker 2: there because the thing I'm okay with is is on
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  Speaker 2: the back of the car, which is very hard to
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  Speaker 2: find pictures of the back of the car because they're
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  Speaker 2: not supposed to be out there yet. But there's someone
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  Speaker 2: already on eBay and things like that. They do list
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  Speaker 2: the full team name and the in the position. The
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  Speaker 2: one thing that I haven't spent enough time to look
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  Speaker 2: to see is, you know, when they when they do outfield, like,
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  Speaker 2: are they doing like just a little dot for like outfield?
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  Speaker 2: Is it always in center field? I haven't been able
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  Speaker 2: to look at that closely, but it seems like every
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  Speaker 2: outfielder I've looked at seems to have that dot though.
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  Speaker 2: Actually just saw one for for resigns, which showing in
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  Speaker 2: right field, So okay, but you know, but all the cards,
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  Speaker 2: of all the cards, resigns is the one I found,
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  Speaker 2: but on the back it still says outfeld even though
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  Speaker 2: it shows it in right field. So I actually think
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of a nice, little simple nod that they're
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  Speaker 2: able to put on there. It's not overwhelming it's just
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  Speaker 2: a subtle touch, but they don't they still have the
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  Speaker 2: information still in the card, So I think it's it's
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  Speaker 2: different and neat. I don't know, I'm kind of I'm
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  Speaker 2: kind of okay with it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I like it too. That it is
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  Speaker 1: a nice little element of like a modernity moder modernity
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  Speaker 1: is the word I'm trying to say in that level,
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  Speaker 1: as well as like a little bit of like a
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  Speaker 1: video games to it, and so like, I like that.
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  Speaker 1: I think they try to do that a little with
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  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four design with all the neon and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and for me, it fell a little flat. But this
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  Speaker 1: does feel a lot more natural and it just kind
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  Speaker 1: of fits with the overall cleaner theme. And if you
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: do want to see pictures of anything that we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about here, certainly do check out rasball dot com. There'll
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  Speaker 1: be a corresponding post that goes with this podcast, and
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: so you're not gonna have to just be in the
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  Speaker 1: dark as we talk about the design from tops or
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  Speaker 1: any of the other cards. Check out rasball dot com,
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  Speaker 1: find this post, and then that way you can see
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  Speaker 1: some of the cards that we're going to discuss here.
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  Speaker 1: In terms of inserts and autos and other just kind
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  Speaker 1: of cool features, So certainly do check that out when
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: you're there. Also look at some of those subscription options.
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  Speaker 1: Because we're getting right into the prime of twenty twenty
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: five Fantasy season. We've got all the tools to help
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  Speaker 1: you out to win your leagues this year. So, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, with that, let's move into a little bit
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  Speaker 1: further details on the checklist. We're gonna have a total
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  Speaker 1: of I lost it. It had a total of well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna edit this out now, fifty three fifty, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I thought of. Three. We have a total
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  Speaker 1: of three hundred and fifty cards in the checklist. Number
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  Speaker 1: one opening the checklist is Sho Hee Otani, which has
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  Speaker 1: been a big just tradition in terms of who gets
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  Speaker 1: the Star level TOPS number one. Otani showing up for
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  Speaker 1: the first time. TOPS did a cool overview on TOPS
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  Speaker 1: ripped about like who has been the number one throughout
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  Speaker 1: the years, which is a cool little blog that I've
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  Speaker 1: really enjoyed looking at some of the players that has
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  Speaker 1: been Like somehow Ryan Brawn was back to back years
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  Speaker 1: for a little while, John Lackey got a number one,
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  Speaker 1: and then even in the seventies. They used to do
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  Speaker 1: lots of like world champions ones or batting title ones,
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  Speaker 1: any of those number ones that kind of stand out
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  Speaker 1: to you over the years from that blog post where
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  Speaker 1: you're just like either good or bad, that like it
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  Speaker 1: stands out in your head as defining that set or
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  Speaker 1: defining that era.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you know, I have to think about this one.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's it's probably going back to you know,
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  Speaker 2: the the good old day, right, and I'm gonna call
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  Speaker 2: it the nineties, and I think it's the I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: go with the Tops two thousand when Mark McGuire was
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  Speaker 2: there right after you know, two years after technically, but
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  Speaker 2: like yeah, a year and a half after the the
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  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight season, Like, you know, big name on
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  Speaker 2: a number one card. I think that's that's always fun.
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  Speaker 2: But then you know what I love is you go
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  Speaker 2: back further. It's always like, also, you had like Ted
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  Speaker 2: Williams multiple times, Roger Merris, you know guys like that.
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  Speaker 2: So I think those are all, you know, big ones
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  Speaker 2: to me, and it's like a big privilege that. The
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  Speaker 2: other thing I really found interesting is like Mike Trout's
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  Speaker 2: been number one quite a few times across I think
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  Speaker 2: three times if I'm if I'm counting right, and like
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of like being on the cover of Baden,
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  Speaker 2: like football two degrees, like the being the number one
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  Speaker 2: card in the set. So I think it's right. Clearly,
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  Speaker 2: you know this is Otani's second time. He clearly deserves it.
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  Speaker 2: Though I'm gonna quiz you don't be looking at the
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  Speaker 2: Tani card here. Going back to your comment earlier about
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  Speaker 2: the fielder positioning on the card, Otani's a designated hitter.
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  Speaker 2: Where do you think they put the little bubble on
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  Speaker 2: that one?
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  Speaker 1: Is it on the on deck circle?
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  Speaker 2: It is? It's on the on deck circle. I just
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  Speaker 2: found that completely fascinating. He's just like, what are they
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  Speaker 2: doing with him? So I think Otani is a great,
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  Speaker 2: great fifth of this number one. I actually thought he
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  Speaker 2: might have two cards like him hitt, him pitching, but
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  Speaker 2: I guess coming off of last season, it makes sense
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  Speaker 2: just to have the designated hitter card. We'll deal with
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  Speaker 2: that next year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a pitching card,
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  Speaker 1: either in Series two or update with the Dodgers. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it also stands out to me that I guess they
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  Speaker 1: should have mentioned Nolan Ryan also is out there with
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  Speaker 1: three times as the number one card. Actually no, no,
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  Speaker 1: I take that back four times, and then a Rod
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  Speaker 1: was five and Hank Aaron was five as well, but
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  Speaker 1: that counts for Hank Aaron some of the like awards
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  Speaker 1: and top home runs and stuff like that. But it
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  Speaker 1: is interesting that you know, a Rod got the tie
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  Speaker 1: there with Hank Aaron and Nolan Ryan comes in, so
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  Speaker 1: Otani should be well on his way at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Like you got to think he's got two under his belt.
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  Speaker 1: He's probably gonna be coming for a Rod and Hank
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  Speaker 1: Aaron here anytime soon.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost surprising that he's only only as two. But
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  Speaker 2: that's really just thanks to you know, somebody went forty
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  Speaker 2: seventy in the middle there.
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  Speaker 1: So yes, that is a big portion of it. And
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  Speaker 1: like I said, this set will be available very widely.
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  Speaker 1: So sometimes on this show we talk about card sets
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  Speaker 1: that are a little bit more limited release because of
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  Speaker 1: the rarity and just the cost to put the cards
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  Speaker 1: together and how magnificent they are. So those are always
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  Speaker 1: either directly through tops dot com or your hobby shops.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: These cards will be available everywhere, but brew let everybody
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  Speaker 1: know what the pricing will be and what kind of
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  Speaker 1: like the main options for boxes are.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this is what I love about about Flagship.
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  Speaker 2: It's accessible and so you're to go, you know, let's
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: go top to bottom here your jumbos. Your jumbos, which
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  Speaker 2: are you know, one autograph, two relics. I don't remember
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  Speaker 2: the number of cards off the top of my head
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  Speaker 2: in a jumbo. I don't really feel like doing math,
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  Speaker 2: but I believe it's roughly four hundred cards, so it's
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  Speaker 2: arguably and a lot of times with the jumbos it's
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: pretty much the full set from a base car perspective.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Every once while you get some coalation issues where all
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, like you get like two halves of
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: the set, and two halves in this situation does not
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: make a full But Jumbo boxes are on pre sale
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: for about two hundred dollars, which is which is very
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: reasonable for a jumbo box with a guaranteed three hits.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: And also I believe you're probably getting two silver packs
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: in those. I have not look to see for certain,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: but that's what it's traditionally been. Yeah, for the for
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: the hobby box, which has one guaranteed hit and that
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: oftentimes is a relic card. You do get your your
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: one silver pack that's coming in at one hundred dollars,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: and then you start to get into your blasters, which
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: continue the trend of the last few years being a
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: thirty dollars blaster. Your hangars are sixteen dollars, and so
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: those are your main ones. There's a few others out
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: there as far that you'll start to see as like
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: superboxes and things like that that show up. And they've
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: done a pretty good job this year, and we'll probably
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: get into a little bit later, but they've done a
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: good job of having variations by superbox, by hangar box,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: by value. Back Box does also look like they're gonna
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: have the tens back this year. I haven't seen the
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: pricing on the tens themselves, but I'm sure that those
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: are gonna be out there. Probably my guess in that
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty dollars range first year, so very accessible
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: and something that I would, you know, completely be on
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: board grabbing a little bit of I'm not sure what
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do at this point. I've missed some of
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: the initial pre sales. There's still a few out there
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I can get into, but I feel like I need
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: a lease of Jumbo, but I haven't fully made the
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: commitment yet on the commitments, so I one or two,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: which is probably where I need to decide. So how
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: about you, what do you think in this time around?
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll probably look to pick up a Jumbo, but
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: otherwise probably just blasters here and there when I get
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: the chance and then. I mean, the nice thing with
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: the Jumbo is you get the guaranteed auto as opposed
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: to with a hobby box, high likelihood you're getting one
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: of those manufactured relics, not even like one of those
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: quote unquote player worn or even game used or any
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: sort of jersey piece, but it's usually those manufactured commemorative
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: kind of plastic key quote unquote relics. But I mean,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: especially given those prices that you said, it's not quite
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: as bad to take that because you haven't invested quite
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: as much into the hobby boxes you need to on
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: some other cards. So we've also got print runs coming
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: out thanks to our friends over at Chasingmajors dot com
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: who do these calculations, and so it does look like
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: this set is in wider circulation than what we had
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. Twenty twenty four clocked in at
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: just under nine hundred thousand of each base card, and
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: this set's clocking in at like one point one eight million,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: so it has certainly expanded. I think part of that
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: is probably the Paul schemes of it all. But we've
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: also got some pretty hot rookies that are included in
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: this set, which Series one didn't quite have as much
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: last year, I think, and so there's more hype here
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: for these rookies as well as we are looking at
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: the first time that we've had autographs from Barry Bonds
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: and Mookie Betts in a long time. So there are
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: a few other factors as to why they want to
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: get the increase that print run make sure that it's
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: available as much as possible. And so the rookies that
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: we have set for Series one are Kobe Mail, Dylan Cruz,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: James wood Louder, Spencer Schwellenbach. Those should all be pretty
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: hot ones. My personal favorite, Mike mcgreevy's getting his rookie
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: card out in this set, as well as having autos
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: and other inserts and things, so I'm really excited for that.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: I didn't really have much of like a PC player
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: this past year, So it'll be great getting into some
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Michael McGreevy PC stashes because I love the dude. He's
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: an all time fave of mine. Any of those rookies
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: stand out to you more than the other or any
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: other rookies in the set that like, you think you're
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: gonna enjoy collecting and stashing away here from twenty twenty five.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know. I feel like James Wood's
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: probably the bigger chase here, Dylan Cruz not too far
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: behind him. But I'm actually really interested to see what
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: happens with Spencer Schwallenbach. And the reason I say that
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: go back a few years when Spencer Streyder kind of
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: came out of nowhere in the second half of this
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: of his rookie season, and I feel like Schwallumbach did
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: the kind of the same thing, And I do feel
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: that the card collecting world was a little slower to
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: pick up on Spencer Stryder, and I wonder if the
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: same thing's gonna happen with Schwellenbach here where you know
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Spencer Strider's cards, like his Rookie Gold cards right when
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: they came out, if I recall, they were going for
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: maybe twenty twenty five dollars, but people are also selling
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: them for two dollars because people like I don't know
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: who Spencer Strider is, Like he just you know, having
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: a late season like that. Like if you're really into
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: the fantasy sports or you know, really you know, paying
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: attention to pitching development, you're like, yeah, I know who
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Spencer's Schwallmbak is and you're not gonna pay up for
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: that potential. It's because again it's on the strid level.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: But I do feel like he's gonna be one of
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: those guys. It's like a big name to some but
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: not to others in this set. So I'm watching him
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: very closely. I think he's gonna be a fund one
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: to watch. But I'll give it to you. I'm a
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: grievy too. I knew you couldn't resist bringing it bringing
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: him up in this line.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely not.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I love Michael McGreevy. That maybe it's just if you
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: aren't familiar with his backstory. With me, I have just
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: go back through the rasball dot com archives and look
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: at the Michael McGreevy tag. Lots of great articles I've
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: been writing about him for years, which I shouldn't have been,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: but I have, and I do agree that I think
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: these twelve and bock cards could make decent statue stashes,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: especially given what we see in the picture market for
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: baseball cards overall, where you need to move pretty quickly
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: on getting the rookies out the door if you're sitting
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: on them, like if you had Treak schoobles and could
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: see that value rise kind of throughout twenty twenty four.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I do really think We've talked about it on our
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: NL East preview this past week, that I think Schwellenbach
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: is in for a pre special season. It's got a
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: great pitch mix, and I think once he you know,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: especially if he can reach like the All Star Game,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: and I believe he should still be eligible for the
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year. I'm not one hundred percent sure,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: but if he does kind of get a little bit
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: of hardware and this Braves team is set up for
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: a pretty deep run, that Schwellenbach could have a special
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: season all coming together and kind of reach that next
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: ace level, I think, And so it's a good kind
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: of card to stash away, and especially towards the end
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: of the season. If the Braves are doing really well.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Start moving those on eBay while you can, because you
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: can never really count on a pitcher staying healthy and
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: that value continuing to stay where it's at.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say two other rookies I would call
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: out there, both actually still in a east would be
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: a teammate starting pitcher. Herston Waldrip of the Braves. I
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: think he's another kind of out of the raider. Why.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I just think it's a ton of potential. One of
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: my boys, Connor Norby over there for the Marlins. I
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: think he's got a ton of upside as well, and
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: he'll be a rookie in this class. So there there,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I would say it's a little bit. It's there's a
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: few guys at the top, but there's there's like a
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: strong middle in this release this year round, So we
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: don't have the Paul Skemes factor, but James Wood's not
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: too far off.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, Well, let's get into some of the inserts
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: and other parallels and all sorts of the fun cards
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: now and get out of the base set. So if
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: you are familiar with the top flagship product, what they
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: do is especially the biggest insert set every year, and
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: it's included in Series one Series two update. They also
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: do it in Chrome and Chrome Update is the thirty
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: fifth Anniversary Parallels, where they take modern players and also
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: you know Hall of famers and throwback players, put them
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: in an old design from thirty five years ago, and
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: then release them as the inserts. I think this is
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: if you're chasing any sort of insert set. This is
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: one of the more fun ones to do because there
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: is the factor of nostalgia, and I feel like they
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: are still relatively collectible, Like people like seeing the thirty
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: fifth Anniversary designs and being able to collect that insert
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: set this year, this one hurts because this is the
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: first one that actually made me feel really old, because
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I can like remember buying the packs myself, even though
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: like it's amongst my first memories of like getting these
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: cards when I'd go to like a candy store or
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: other places throughout our youth in Bloomington. Normal nineteen ninety
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: is the design set, which is not necessarily like one
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: of the most valuable sets. If anything, it's like probably
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: the least valuable top set because it was so overprinted.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: It's a little garish the original design on the original cardboard,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: but on top of it too. It's just kind of cheap.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: All of the the centering was pretty poor in the
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety designs. A lot of the times the ink
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: doesn't line up, and so you get this kind of
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: a three d ish effect from the original designs. I
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: don't think it'll happen as much with these inserts. I
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: honestly it probably won't all because it's not using that
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: weird like yellow cardboard stock. But what do you think
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: about using the nineteen ninety inserts and how old does
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: this make you feel?
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you hit on the one thing that was
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: going through mind, which was the card stock. Like I
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: just I'm looking at it, and I'm like, that's a
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: good design. But like I'm like, what does it bother
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: me about these cards? I'm like, it's the card stock. Like,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: I just I feel like I'm gonna get these and
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be this really rough like around the edge
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: is terrible cut, Like some of the edges are just
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: be all bumpy. Like I just feel like it's gonna
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: be that card that you'd want to put between your
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: bike tires and just roll down the road, right, And
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's what's actually gonna be. But that's
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: that's what I like almost turns me off. The degree
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: of that. And the other point is yes, like I
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: could have bought these cards and like that that makes
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: me feel old. We do that a little too much
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: on this podcast. But I I do think it's a
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: cool design though, Like and I to your point, the
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: center is going to be better like all those things
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: to come through and to have somebody like Bonds come
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: back and sign and have his cut card sign, like
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: it almost feels like it is the actual nineteen ninety
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: cards sign because that's, you know, his heyday. You know,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: it's it's kind of what you know you'd want to see.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: So it just fits with with a guy like Bonds.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm okay with it as long as the
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: card stock is uh modern.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, honestly, it would have been fun if
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: they would have used like the throwback card stock for
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: these for the nineteen ninety cards. I don't even like
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: to produce it. I don't. It would have been like
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: special order because it's so crummy, Like it would have
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: been so hard.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Have Like the off color like off I think leaves
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: me like a kind of a reddish kind of back
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: on some.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Of these I can't imagine these are it's gonna it's
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: like a yellow green, so I would have to imagine
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: that back will. The other cool thing that they're doing
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: I think they just, yeah, they just posted this on
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: their Instagram today, is that they're harkening back to that
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety set was especially really big for some of
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: the errors. Some of them are like those fake ones
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: where this is really prevalent throughout the hobby where there's
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: like ink print errors or dot errors or the really
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: popular or like I wouldn't say popular, but like kind
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: of legendary one here is that's not even a real
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: parallel is the King Griffey Junior Scab nineteen ninety where
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: like he does have like a weird ink spot or
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: like scab on his arm. But the most infamous one
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: of these is kind of like the original short print,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: the Frank Thomas no name parallel. And so what they're
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: doing actually is for all of the cards in the set,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be short print, no names of every single card,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: which I think it's pretty cool. That will be something
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: that I think people will want to chase. I don't
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: know what it'll be short printed too, but it is
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: kind of fun to harken back to that Frank Thomas
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: rookie card because that is like one of the I
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: would almost say, like a top ten if we had
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: to do like a top ten, almost like Mount Rushmore
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: of baseball cards, that Frank Thomas nineteen ninety no name,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I think would make it for me.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's iconic just of that era, and it's
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: just like everybody you see the Frank Thomas like rookie
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: all the time. It's like a two to three dollars card.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: It's not hard to find, and you almost forget there's
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: this other variation that is just so incredibly rare. It's
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: it's like the Bill Ripkin fun face kind of card
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: like it's it's one of those is just like you
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: have to, like to have a true collection, you want
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: to have that in there, but it's still so hard
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: to find. So I think that is a cool, cool
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: little thing they're doing. I like it does feel like
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: TOPS is doing a little more of these, a few
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: of these subtle type of nods and things like that
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: to some old car collecting. They're doing some other not
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: so subtle things. I'm probably not as big a fan
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: fan of, but I do like these these little things
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: that they're doing.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it'll be really cool. So you harken
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: to this a little bit in terms of the autos
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: that we've got lined up. So give us more details
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: on some of the auto inserts that are going to
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: be in this product.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you get all the well, you got plenty
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: of different different autos, yet your nineteen ninety autos that
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: you just kind of kind of mentioned. Uh, you also
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: have chrome autos from the nineteen ninety that'll be fun.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: There's first pitch shottos, there's your you know, flagship autos
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: that you're gonna see, baseball stars, all those kind of things.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: And then there's also the incredibly rare ones which we
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: won't go through, all the triple autos and things like that.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: But but what I what I thought was really interesting
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: and really great, is that they introduce the flagship Real
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: One autographs. And if you're familiar with real One autographs,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: those are traditionally in heritage, uh, and they're on card
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: autos that are in that product, and they're very very
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: highly sought after because of the quality of the auto
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: and being on card. What's really exciting to me about
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: this is these not necessarily for all the players, because
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: you're gonna get the mix of there's forty seven different
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: players in the checklist for this one, and it's the
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: mix of stars and you know things like that. But
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: for the rookies, this is gonna be the pretty much
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: the only car card you can get available, which is
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: actually their first flagship rookie card that is autographed, because
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: if you think about all other series that we've come through,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: you might get an auto of a rookie in the set,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: but it's not the actual bass rookie card, or you're
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: waiting until Chrome to get a chrome version that is
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: a different image of that. And so you go back
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: and you look at some history of some of the
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: greatest names of all time. You look at all these
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: rookie cards. There's like, oh, the Albert pool Hol's Rookie card,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: or the Ichi ro Rookie card, or the King Griffy
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Rookie cards, Like there's not autograph versions of that of
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: the the rookie card of these guys. Now we will
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: have autographed rookie cards of Spencer Schwallenbach, Dylan Cruz, of
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Kobe Mayo, uh David Festa, you know all all those
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: kind of guys. Nacho Alvarez, you know, one of our
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: one of our guys. And so there's also you know,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: big stars like Acunia and lad and Olsen and Merrill
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: and all the you know those kind of guys. I
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: don't think the Merrils and the schemes will they won't
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: like try to like retro the Macino rookie card here.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: But I think that's what's so interesting is that I
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: I feel like these, uh, they're also relatively rare. If
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I if I recall, I have to go back and
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: find the odds on them to pack odds for a
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: for a Jumbo is one in three hundred and fourteen
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: packs of a Jumbo to find one of these one
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: and twenty five hundred hobbies. And so I don't know
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: exactly the print run actually now estimated sixteen packs in that.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Oh no, that's to mega. You get ten packs in
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: a Jumbo.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, so Estimatium looking wants to get one. Yeah, they're
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: estimating one hundred and forty five print run on these.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: And then you have that's rare different parallels from starting
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: at ninety nine all the way down to a foil
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: fractor of them. So do the math there with all
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: the parallels things like that. You're probably talking three hundred
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: ish of these on card autos of their actual bas
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: rookie card, and I think they are going to be
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: like it's I don't call it Rookie debut patch esque
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: like probably that. I mean, those things are have gone
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: crazy in the hobby, but I think they're going to
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: run a real real premium for folks, just kind of
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: like when you get that chrome auto like the first one,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: people want to have that that one of their their
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: PC guys. So I go on and on about this one,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: but I really think it's a cool addition that they've done.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: And I like, I never I didn't know I missed
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: it until it was here, Like that's that's one of
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: those things. And so yeah, you go back to last year,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: it was like Paul Sken's his bass Rookie. How cool
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: would that be to have that autographed as a tops
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: authentic autograph versus the secondhand market in person auto something
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: like that. So love, I love I love this edition.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was really cool that like until
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: you start pointing it out, I also kind of looked
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: over it, but it is I think it will go
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: down as something kind of like the Bowman first auto
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: where it stands out because usually you were getting it
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: on the thirty fifth anniversarydesign or this set called Baseball
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Stars that they always use or stars of it will
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: be that they sometimes used to be able to like
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: get sticker autos in. But an on card auto with
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: the actual rookie card design is gonna, I think go
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: down as something pretty memorable.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think is people are not gonna realize
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: how rare they are as well. With like I said,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: that's run of like the non numbered is like roughly
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: out of one fifty and then they start numbering on
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: ninety nine, like might as well just number of them
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: all right. I think people are not going to realize
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: the rarity of these, I mean a little bit because heritage,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: you know that those are pretty gush aren't hard to
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: defind as well, but they are the pret runs of
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: heritage are quite a bit higher, I have to imagine.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: So yeah, exactly, Okay, Well, while you were doing that,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I was preparing myself with plenty of liquid to be
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: able to do the parallel runoff because even though we've
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: got four cut so or three cuts, three of the
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: classics were cut here in terms of the Father's Day
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: and Mother's Day parallels, which were blue and pink and
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: both of fifty. They also cut the black parallels, which
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: is I think a little strange because that was one
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: of the ones where they it would increase every year
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: like in terms of how many they put out, and
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: so it was really fun the way the watch that
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: would work over time. But it is cut because while
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I'm actually reading off this list, I'll give you plenty
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: of time to be able to count how many of
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: these parallels I'm about to bradle off are. This is
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: also part of the reason why I think the print
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: run went through the roof a little bit, because to
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: be able to fit all these parallels and all the
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: actual product out there, you've need a lot of base cards.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: So obviously we have the standard gold Golden mirror SSPs
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: that will be for every card where that will be
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: another collectible set to try to put them all together.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: But let me take a couple of breasts in terms
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: of a very daunting list of other parallels. So here
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: we go non numbered parallels, and I will keep these
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: are all non numbered until I get and say I've
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: gotten to numbered parallels. So we have your standard rainbow
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: foil board is back Spring Training. I'm not even sure
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: that is diamnte foil, not sure if that is hollow foil,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: pink holofoil, Silver crackle board, Holiday, which is if you
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: recall they've been doing this throughout twenty twenty four, it's
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: related to the seasonal holiday. So because it is February
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: slash spring Ish for this release, we're going back with
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: the Easter theme. You'll see that pop back up here
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: again pretty soon. Sand Glitter Retro variation team color border tops,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: foil pattern, pink diamante aqua, rainbow foil, aqua hollofoil. Those
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Aqua ones are going to be in those Fanbat Fanatics
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: only boxes, so you can only get those exclusively through
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: the Fanatics plasters True photo, which is the no border,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: just the photo of the card. Then we have the
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Holiday Flowers, Holiday Eggs, Holiday Rabbit. Those are all unnumbered.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: They actually are missing one that we'll get to to
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: talk about because there's a couple of other variations that
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: will be fun that they've got buried in here. Now
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: let's get to the cereal numbered Gold of twenty twenty five,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Purple holofoil of two fifty purple rainbowfoil two fifty red
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: cracklefoil one ninety nine blue holofoil one fifty rainbow blue
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: foil one fifty green holofoil of ninety nine, Green rainbow
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: foil of ninety nine, Spring Training Green foil board of
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: ninety nine, vintage stock of ninety nine, which must be
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: different from retro variation in some capacity. Independence Day back
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: again of seventy six, canvas of fifty, gold diamante of fifty,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: gold holofoil of fifty, Gold rainbowfoil of fifty, which is
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: a change those used to be not numbered. Spring Training's
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: gold foil board of fifty, Orange hollow foil board of
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: twenty five, Orange diamante foil of twenty five, Orange rainbow
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: foil of twenty five Spring Training orange foil board, So
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: that's four different orange parallels also of twenty five, Memorial
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Day camera of twenty five, wood of twenty five, black
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: diamonte foil of ten, black hollofoil of ten, black rainbow
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: foil of ten, Holiday umbrella of ten, Holiday water and
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: can of five, black diamonte foil of five, Red foil foil,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: red hollow foil of five, red rainbow foil of five,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: spring training red foil board of five, again, four parallels
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: of the reds, printing pates one of one for your magenta,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: your yellow, your cayenne black first card, one of one,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: foil fractors one of one, Holiday birds of one, Platinum
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: holofoil one of one, spring training black foil board one
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: of one. So that is five one of ones if
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: you include the printing plate. So that is a lot.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: How many parallels did I just read off?
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I lost track? I think it's roughly fifty because I was,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I was, I got stuck in the one of the
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: actually six one of ones, and if you want to
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: come print the printing plates across the board, that'd be nine. Uh.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: It's crazy, so uh and I you know, I got
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I really got thrown off when you got to the
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: reds out of five when there's twenty reds out of
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: five that are all just different versions. Like I'm looking
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: at a red rainbow foil o versus red holofoil, Like,
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: how is that not the same card?
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Like I think it's like a little cracking or whatever.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, we'll see, yeah exactly. But I feel like
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: this is one of those that were un to go.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: It's like there's goulda be the rare card, like and
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: then there's gonna be the not rare card and be
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: like which one is this? Yes, they look the same,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: but which one is this? Like this is uh, there's
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: there's there's a lot with these ones.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So good luck to any rainbow chasers out there,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: because I think it's nigh impossible at this point that
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Obviously TOPS has taken feedback that people
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: really enjoy all these parallels at some level. I do
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: think that, like, obviously it hits really well when you're
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: doing the breaks online and looks cool, especially when you
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: start getting all these different color foils that will match
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: team colors across the board. And but it is a lot.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: It's just a little out of hand. Okay, the one
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: parallel that I mentioned that is not actually not in
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: that list but is new and you can find the
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: link to this in the show notes so that you can.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: And also this is one if you went to raspball
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: dot com to check out the picture of these cards.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: This is why look at because I want your take
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: on this. They've got a new player number variation where
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: each one of the three hundred and fifty cards is
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: going to have a parallel with the player's number in
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: the background kind of peppered all throughout in a pattern,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: and then that card will be of that number. So
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: for example, you know we've got Paul Skins number thirty,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: there'll be thirties peppered throughout the background of that card.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Each card will be numbered to thirty. So the lower
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: the number of the jersey, the fewer number of those
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: parallels that are out there for each player. This is
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: new for twenty twenty five. So what do you think
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: about this new parallel?
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like last year they had an absolute
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: home run with like the team logo parallels that came out,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: and this is a call to strikeout, Like they missed
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: so bad on this one. Like if they would have
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: done what they did with the team logo, which they
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: kept with kept in like the outside border, I think
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: it could have been really really cool. But they lasted
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: this across the entire card and it's like oddly like
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: behind some of the border but in front of other
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: parts of the border, and like it's it's like they
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: couldn't decide what, like what plane to put it on.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: It's like you're in PowerPoint. You said send it back
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: and you forgot how many times you did it type
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: of thing, and it's just like it's overwhelming, and it
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: just it looks bad. Like I don't know what else
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: to say it. It's like it's gonna be like a
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: rare card that I get and be like I have
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: literally no desire to have this card my collection, Like
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know what we're trying to do.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at the one of the Instagram posts that
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: you linked in our show notes, and it's actually hilarious
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: because it highlights it's you know, from tops highlighting this
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: cool card and it's actually a body Wit and it's
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: kind of circling the number seven of his jersey and
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: then highlighting the card. And I think one of the
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: comments like sorry because we couldn't see the thirty sevens
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: on this card, so we didn't know where coming from.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Like it's just so in your face blatant, like it
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: looks like somebody like a kid put it into like paint,
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: and it's just like how many sevens can I get
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: on here? Like for this body Wit card? Like it's bad.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, maybe maybe you loved it, but like,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: I can't stand this card.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: No, I agree, it is kind of annoying. It does
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: look half baked where they threw it in at the
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: last moment, where some of the comments on the Instagram
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: post also follow what you said, where it would have
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: looked better if it was just in the border, or
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: if it had just been a big number in the background,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: just like a singular seven for example, for Bobby wit Junior,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: instead of the whole pattern.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Like the logo, like the logo logo board type things
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: they've done the past.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like exactly, not a.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Neon seven for here, Like, there's so many ways they
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: could have done this that would have worked, and this
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: one looks like it's just like I don't know. The
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: guy that turned in his homework at the last seconds
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: is like, well, I tried, And I'll be.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Fascinating to see how well the quality control was on
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: those in terms of like, it's got to be really
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: difficult to be able to print all three hundred and
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: fifty cards in their own number of parallels as opposed
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: to you know, with the other all the other parallels,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: there's the same number of them for each you know,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: each individual card, so it's a little easier to keep
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: track of, but to be able to like do that
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: would be interesting to see if like there actually are
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: enough of these cards out there, or you know that
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: it lines up so like there are seven Bobby Wits
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: and there's not fifteen Bobby Wits and they misnumbered them
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: and stuff. So I think it will be just strange
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: to see how it all unfolds. And obviously, if you've
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: got any number ones out there in the set, they're
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: going to be the hardest ones to chase because it's
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: an automatic one of one. I do wonder what they're
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: gonna do with it. Anybody wear number is zero, so
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: maybe they just don't exist or they somehow broken the
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: time space continuum to be able to to put that
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: all together.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: So yeah, no, no, you got me trying to think
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: of what everybody's number is here, So you get there
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: and Judge will be ninety nine of those and Wits
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: of seven, and uh, but I'm trying to look through
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: this to see, like, is there anybody seventeen?
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Is there anybody with a really really low number?
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Two gunners? There'll be two gunners, yep, But yeah, it'll
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: be it'll be funny to see, like if some of
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: the really low numbered ones where it's a guy who
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't expect to have a hot market turns into
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: some sort of like chase card just because it is
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: another random one of one out there.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's absolutely possible. So now I'm just bored
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: to look at all the numbers, like what's Jacob Wilson's
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: jersey number?
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, to see if it's worth like chasing down or
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: a boy Mike mcgovey. What about these like some of
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: these rookies where they might not have like a set number.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Jacob Wilson's five, he's out of five.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's gonna be tough one. Yeah, Okay, let's get
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: into some of the inserts. So we've got some of
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: the standard returnees here in terms of the heavy lumber,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: the all aces and all aces. They switch it up
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: a little bit where it's not a full traditional kind
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: of trading or playing card. Look, it's a little bit stylized,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: which I think is really cool. It's a good way
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: to kind of reconfigure that design and keep it moving
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: forward in a good way. Home Field advantage pretty much
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: looks the same first pitches back again. So the big
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: one here you alluded to the autograph will be I
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: think the Jason Kelly card or not Jason Kelly, Jason Kelce,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: and I don't think they've released the entire list. At
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: least when I was doing my research yesterday, they didn't
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: have the entire list because they are going back to
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: the first pitches being a little more short printed. I
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: think those are always popular with the celebrities on there,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure we might get some surprises on who
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: some of the autographs are as we get closer to
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: release date. We've also got Major League materials and those
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Baseball Stars autos back. Social Media followback is in this
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: set too, So any of those insert sets stand out
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: to you more than the other?
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think the one that jumps out
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: to me is the social media followbacks. I just think
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: that's such an interesting card. It's an actual like interaction
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: or it's the card that keeps on playing like you
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: get to I'm assuming I've never actually seen one of these,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: but assuming there's like a scratch off code or something
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: like that that you can submit to get you know,
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Mike Trout or I think with Reggie Jackson is one
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: of those Jackson curio Andjan Soto to follow you back
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: on social media. Now, I don't know if it's Blue
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Sky or it's x I'm not I'm not quite sure
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: whether maybe maybe your Facebook friend, maybe your MySpace account
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: still works. I don't know, but I think those are
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: That one, to me is just really interesting concept that
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: I love that they've tried to get some interaction. And
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: then I also really there's there's something the Golden mirror.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: There's something about that, like it's just like everybody gets
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: a little short print and they're very gotcharn't obvious because
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: the back of the car is all golden. And so
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: I love those because they've done a great job of
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: bringing some unique photography into the cards, kind of not
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: quite stadium club esque, but not too far off that.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: And so I absolutely love those as well. And it's
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: kind of a neat little things like, hey, I could
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: try to collect whole set, but they are pretty rare
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: and people absolutely go bonkers over trying to collect those.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: So and that last one, I'll call it is the
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: all aces they be. I do really like that one.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be interesting to see from a
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: quality perspective. Those have always been so sharp and kind
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: of the white backgrounds, the white shine that they've had
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: on them. Going to black is I kind of feels
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: like a little bit of a gamble because black cards,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: always from a quality control perspective, are such such a
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: hard thing to do. The little chip you can get,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: the scratches show better like it's It'll be interesting to
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: see how how those truly truly play. So lots of good,
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: good inserts, and there's plenty and plenty of other ones
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: that were we just we literally could not go through
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: every single insert. We just we don't have the time
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: to do that. But there are a ton of inserts,
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: but some really really cool ones that we're gonna see
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: this time around.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and know Michael McGreevy all Ase's card yet, but
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: maybe it'll be coming down the pike. Just that would
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: be really funny if McGreevy gotten Allise's rookie card but
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Schemes didn't that that would be highly hilarious to me.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: While you were rattling that off, I was also looking
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: up I think the way that they got around the
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: numbering for all the cards that I was just alluding to.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: If a player hasn't debuted yet and they have a
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: rookie card. All the rookie cards are for players who
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: have played in the majors at least a game, so
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: they've been assigned a number. I just did some quick
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: googling of even some of the most obscured names on
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: the checklist, and I'm pretty sure they all played. Pedro
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: leone gonna be a tough one. Only four of those
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: out there. He wore number four last year when he
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: got into seven games with twenty one played appearances. So
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: it'll be I wonder if they'll keep doing that going forward,
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: because if they keep that parallel, that would also maybe
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: make it a slight change in the way that TOPS
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: has put cards out, because typically when they've done that,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: you can have some players who haven't debuted in the
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: major leagues that have a rookie card. So I wonder
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: if it is something where they didn't quite think that
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: all the way through, in case they want to pump
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: out like a really crazy like Leio Dallas Devrees in
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Series one next year or something, you know what I mean,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: like that where it's got to be somebody who's debuted,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: So that'll be something that is track going forward. Yeah, absolutely, Okay,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: we do have some new inserts, so we alluded to
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: the player number variations. The other kind of cool very
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: slash insert is the dancing Dodgers inserts that they'll have.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: So if you especially recall watching the Dodgers all last
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: year that they all did this little kind of hands
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: over the head and hip kind of jut out when
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: they would get to second base a lot, so to
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: honor like the World Series win, they have parallels of
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: each of those Dodgers cards in there, so pretty similar
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: also to last year when the Phillies had all those
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Kevin Hart insert parallels where there was like a mini
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Kevin Hart somewhere on the picture of the cards. So
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: again this is the type of stuff where he gets
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: announced a little late, so I wouldn't be surprised if
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: we have something a la the Kevin Hart for other
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: parallels of teams and stuff like that. So the Dodgers
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: right now are the only ones that I'm aware of.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Then we also have a couple of new inserts with
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: the Plakata inserts, which I really like. They're inspired by
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: the Carlos Pena when he yells plakata on MLB Network
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: all the time, and the design is somewhere between like
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: I forget the name of the parallel, but the Panini.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: One of my favorite Panini parallels is the ones with
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: the swing on it and the color everywhere. It's a
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: cross between that and like the power Zone inserts from
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Stadium Club that I think they're pretty sharp. I think
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: they'll pretty be pretty fun cards. Also reminds me a
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: lot of the like ring Chaser or like the cards
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: with the rings and all the eagles on them from
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: the nineties that they had in Stadium Club, the ring Leaders.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking for, ring leaders inserts where there
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: is just like a fun and cool factor to them.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: But what do you think about these plakata inserts.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm really torn because it's like it
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: it looks like it's kind of cool, but then it's
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: kind of it's got a lot going on on it
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: for me, Like it's it's got placata really bold, it's
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: got kind of a color splash, it's got a placketa
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: logo in the corner, Like it's just kind of a
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: lot going on. Like some of the like the Panini
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: things you called out, like some color splashes or things
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: like that, they're usually like one thing that just really
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: stands out. So I'm I'm kind of mixed. It's gonna
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: be one. I'm gonna have to hold judgment till till
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: I actually see one in person. I think they have potential,
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: and I also I apparently had not listened enough. Carlos Pania.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: I did not know what plakata was until I looked
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: it up and found out that was something him and
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: his brothers used when they were playing as kids, and
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: that was like they're saying, and I'm like, hey, more
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: power to you. There's worse things that it could end
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: up on a card. I'm sure.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: So it just kind of like funny that it's starting
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: to like seep into the baseball culture and like, yeah,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: he just invented it like playing with his brother that
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: it's this. Maybe I just watched too much MLB Network,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: is what it is that I'm currently I'm always on
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: date unundated with the plakatas everywhere, especially on MLB Central.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Carlos Pania can't go like more than a couple of
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: minutes without screaming it for something. Okay, let's get into
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: what I think are two of maybe like the cooler
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: chase cards or like types of chase cards that are
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: in this set. The first one is Rickwood rex Rick.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: That's kind of a weird thing to saying Rickwood relics.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: Where from that rickwood Field game last year between the
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Cardinals and the Giants. They have like real relics from
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: that game as well as like I think some other
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: player Warren memorabilia and things like that. But it's a
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: nice kind of mix up from the major league materials.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: And so, I mean, I'm looking forward to some of
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: these getting pulled because I'd love to chase some of
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: them for the Cardinals players that they are just kind
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: of a cool historical moment that happened when they did
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: that rick wood Field game and I really loved watching
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: that game. I think it'll be like one of the
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: things that I remember from baseball in twenty twenty four
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: that I that'll be one of the cooler relic chases.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: What do you think?
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. So I've been looking. I've not really
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: found any examples of them yet what they actually look like,
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: and so like it feels like it could be amazing.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: But now I'm like sitting here going, oh man, it's
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: tops like can they pull it off? But you know
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: it as a Cardinals fan like, it is kind of
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: fun to be able to have like kind of a
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: set of relics to go after. It's kind of just
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: for your team. I get the Giants there too, I'm
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: just kind of ignoring them, but I think it is cool.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: I think it is also nice little retro touched. So
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to the Rickwood relics. I'm just I'm
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: just holding out hope when I actually start to see
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: these come out in the in the wild, that they
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: live up to what you know, how cool it could
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: be for them to really go after it, because it
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: feels like it's gonna be like a bat relic or
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: something like that, right, maybe like a stadium seat relic.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know. There's so many different ways you go
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: with it that I hope they pull it off the
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: right way.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And those are also have parallels of orange of
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: twenty five, black of ten, red of five, Platinum, one
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: of one, which is man really shortened the Cardinals. There
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: are only one team color pair, well, the Giants get
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: two and the Cardinals ones five that if I would
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: make in that set, I would have even it out
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: a little bit. But we're team color match here as
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: part of the problem. I think that we like the
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: color match just too much that it's hard to always
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: see the Cardinals coming at of five, so brutal to collect.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: The other one I want to call out is Larry
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: David has autocraft cards in this set, so I think
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: these are going to be a hot commodity just because
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: he's never had a baseball card signed, and usually this
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: is the type of thing that ends up in Allen
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: and genter or tops archives, but it's really cool to
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: see it in series one. So the design of the
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Larry David card is it's just a picture of him
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: from when they were playing a baseball game on Curb
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Your Enthusiasm. In the twenty twenty five design, Larry David's
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: got a great auto, so it's it's a good looking
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: auto on top of it being Larry David. So I
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: think it's going to be highly collectible for those kind
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: of two factors of you know, the comedy Larry David fan,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: but also like it would be a cool card just
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: display because Larry David Kudo is on your beautiful, beautiful
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: signature my man.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'll give them credit. The signature is
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: pretty good. Person Goshtren good. Like I I have to say, though,
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: like there's a little part of me like if I
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: pulled one of these, I'd be like, cool, it's collectible.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: I'll sell it like the type of thing, because it's
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: just it's not like if I'm opening a hobby box
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: and I'm like so excited, like, am I gonna pull
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: the Kobe Mayo Auto? Am I gonna get one of these,
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: you know, real one autout? And I pull out Larry David,
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: I'll be like I even get a baseball card like
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Jason Kelcey, like come on, guys, like and so like
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: I get that there actually probably more valuable, more collectible,
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: but there's just a little part of me it's just
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: like do I get a second auto because I didn't
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: get a baseball player's auto in this one. So I've
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: got mixed emotions of it. But hey, if you're a
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: big Larry David fan, like, yeah, of course it's got
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: to hit close to home and be real collectible.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Here, well, I mean yeah, think i'd ever be hearing
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: somebody really want there Drew Romo auto instead of their
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: Larry David auto is on this but it's well, let's
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: not go too far. But yeah, I think that hits
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: all the highlights here from top Series one twenty twenty five.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a great set. Like I said,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: I really love the design and at the nineteen ninety
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: ninety in or nineteen ninety inserts, So I think it's
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: gonna be just cool watching all these cards get opened.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Let's wrap it up here then, unless you've got anything
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: else to kind of call out in series one, Like
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: I said, there's gonna be more news as we get
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: closer and closer to release date on February twelfth of
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: the as they drop different celebrity autos, different parallels and
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: things like that, so we can loop back to those
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: when we get the chance.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just gonna get my pre order and that's
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: what I've gotta get doing before we finished up here,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: so I got work to do. But yeah, I think
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: we'll have to come back and talk about, you know,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: since this is one of those sets that both you
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: and I like to get into at the beginnd of
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: the year, like how we do any cool cards? We hit?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Any real one autos? Did anybody get any of the
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: player numbered variations? I'd be real power to you if
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: you get in one of the two Gunner Henderson's of
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: those that'd be pretty cool but still ugly.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: As all get out.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: So I think it'll be fun to come back and
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: talk about it. But yeah, let's wrap it up here.
• 1:01:21
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