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Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Ross, and thank you for joining me tonight the
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Speaker 2: feral protesters finally get their come up and listen to
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Speaker 2: the squills about alleged police brutality. Grace Tame Australian of
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Speaker 2: the Year, one moment cheering for Interfarta, the next more
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Speaker 2: like Disgrace Tame, And I'll bring you the exclusive story
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Speaker 2: of yet another attempt to mislead the public over just
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Speaker 2: who is criticizing Israel?
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Speaker 1: The Super Bowl.
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Speaker 2: Fall out, how a political battle erupted during the halftime entertainment.
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Speaker 2: Kristen Tate joins me on that, and yes, yes, the
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Speaker 2: Liberal Party it's still in turmoil in Canberra.
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Speaker 1: We won't miss that either.
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Speaker 2: Plus Tim Blair, Susi O'Brien and Steven Senna Tiempo.
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Speaker 1: Let's get cracking.
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Speaker 2: Lots to say about the protests in Sydney and Melbourne
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Speaker 2: Life Night. Ostensibly they were targeting the visit by Israeli
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Speaker 2: President Isaac Herzog. Protests organized by the same anti Israel
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Speaker 2: pro Palestinian mobs that have created ugly scenes on our
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Speaker 2: streets since the very day after the October the seventh
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Speaker 2: atrocities that killed more than twelve hundred innocent people in
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Speaker 2: Israel in twenty twenty three. Let's start by talking about
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Speaker 2: the core message, the putred message promoted last night. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: they were cheering for inter fada in other words, calling
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Speaker 2: for armed uprising against Israel and Jews in other inter farda.
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Speaker 2: As I've shown you before, we've seen buses, nightclubs and
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Speaker 2: pizza bars blown up in Israel, killing ChIL ildren and
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Speaker 2: other innocence. And if you want to know about into
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Speaker 2: farda in Australia, consider this chant on Bondai Beach last
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Speaker 2: September and then think about fifteen innocent victims killed at
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Speaker 2: Bondai Beach with dozens injured just three months later. Anyone
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Speaker 2: who doesn't comprehend the connection here is ignorant beyond words.
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Speaker 2: Anyone who understands this yet still urges into farda after
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Speaker 2: these real world lessons in the horrors of Islamist terrorism,
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Speaker 2: well they must be heartless and reckless. Yet last night,
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Speaker 2: a one time Australian of the Year led this chant from.
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Speaker 3: Gadigal to gods globalize the anentifier won my.
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Speaker 4: Time from Galligol to Gadha.
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Speaker 2: Globale from Gadigul to Gaza globalize the interfada repugnant. Have
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Speaker 2: these people not seen what Hummas did on October the seventh?
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Speaker 2: Have they not seen what Islamist terrorists have done around
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Speaker 2: the world? Do they not understand any of this? And
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Speaker 2: Grace Tame once the Australian.
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Speaker 1: Of the Year for her brave work in.
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Speaker 2: Calling out sexual abuse, well, how can she justify giving
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Speaker 2: sukker intentional or not to the Islamist extremists of Hummas
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Speaker 2: who rape and torture young girls, and who subjugate women
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Speaker 2: and execute gays.
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Speaker 1: What's she doing? Does she even know?
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Speaker 2: Maybe Tame is going for the double Australian of the
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Speaker 2: Year in twenty twenty one and un Australian of the
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Speaker 2: Year in twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 5: Is that the sort of thing that should see her
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Speaker 5: stripped of that honor?
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Speaker 6: Yes, one d Australian Day Council in my view should
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Speaker 6: be taking a very dim view of this.
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Speaker 7: Now there is history, there is precedent.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, really, if you want interfada in Australia, just hand
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Speaker 2: back your gong. It's the decent thing to do. As
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Speaker 2: for the clashes at the Sydney protest. Finally, the police
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Speaker 2: and authorities have stood up. Finally, the radical protesters, the
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Speaker 2: anarchists and anti Israel haters who have created a climate
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Speaker 2: of animosity, division and fear over more than two years,
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Speaker 2: have been confronted with the rule of law, forced to
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Speaker 2: obey the rules that apply to the rest of us.
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Speaker 1: They didn't like it. They're winging about it.
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Speaker 2: Their friends in the media like the ABC and the
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Speaker 2: Guardian are winging with them, as are the Greens and
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Speaker 2: the socialists left of the Labor Party. But most Australians,
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Speaker 2: mainstream Australians, hard working and tolerant Australians, surely are rejoicing
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Speaker 2: because when the protester decided to defy the law, laws
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Speaker 2: they knew about and had been warned about. When they
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Speaker 2: tried to turn their protest into a march against those rules,
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Speaker 2: they met the full force of the law. With more
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Speaker 2: than five thousand members of the Jewish community and their
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Speaker 2: supporters at an event with President Hertzel only a kilometer away,
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Speaker 2: police weren't going to let the ferals run loose through
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Speaker 2: the streets in defiance of the law and with obvious
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Speaker 2: risks to public safety. Finally, the police were standing up.
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Speaker 2: Police in New South Wales and Victoria were heavy handed
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Speaker 2: and even brutal against innocent citizens during the COVID lockdowns,
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Speaker 2: but no doubt taking a political lead, they've treated anti
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Speaker 2: Israel protesters with kid gloves until now.
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Speaker 1: Never forget that.
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Speaker 2: The horrible anti Semitic rants against Jews at the Opera
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Speaker 2: House in twenty twenty three, Well they started at Sydney's
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Speaker 2: town Hall too before. Protesters marched to the Opera House
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Speaker 2: fore Court without a permit, So it only happened because
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Speaker 2: police chose not to block them but to escort them
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Speaker 2: to the Opera House instead. This time there were arrests
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Speaker 2: twenty seven rest tend.
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Speaker 1: For allegedly assaulting police.
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Speaker 2: This afternoon, police confirmed at least nine people have been
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Speaker 2: charged with offenses such as assaulting and hindering police. But
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Speaker 2: from the ABC and much of the media, as well
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Speaker 2: as the Greens and other leftists, the complaints today were
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Speaker 2: of alleged police brutality. Look, I guess some people see
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Speaker 2: what they want to see, but I see police deliberately
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Speaker 2: put in a position where they have to defend themselves. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: police are criticized if they act and if they don't
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Speaker 2: They are not the problem here. The problem is the
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Speaker 2: protesters and the politicians and the media who fuel all
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Speaker 2: this hatred with lies and encouragement. New South Wales Premier
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Speaker 2: Chris Mins is getting stronger by the day, even though
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Speaker 2: some of his own MP's are part of the problem.
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Speaker 8: Police lines were repeatedly breached or attempted to be breached
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Speaker 8: by the protesters as the night wore on, and New
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Speaker 8: South Wales police and I've spoken to the commanders both
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Speaker 8: last night and this morning, gave ample time for people
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Speaker 8: to leave the area.
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Speaker 2: Police are not punching bags. Police are too often targets
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Speaker 2: and they did not instigate this violence. More to the point,
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Speaker 2: the protesters deliberately created this shambles and you watch their
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Speaker 2: comrades in Melbourne will try to do the same on Thursday.
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Speaker 2: But in Caner we got the usual weakness from the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister.
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Speaker 9: I've consistently said said that every life matters, whether Israeli
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Speaker 9: or Palestinian, and the violence that we saw last night
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Speaker 9: was devastating and I know all Australians would have found
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Speaker 9: those scenes very confronting. I note that the news Wells
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Speaker 9: Police have said they will examine the footage which was
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Speaker 9: taking place last night, including I note that many people
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Speaker 9: who saw the footage, particularly of the people who were
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Speaker 9: praying and then action was taken, will want to know
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Speaker 9: all of the circumstances around that and will allow the
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Speaker 9: police to do their job.
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Speaker 1: Really, he'll allow the police to do their job.
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Speaker 2: How about encouraging them, supporting them instead of engaging in
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Speaker 2: pathetic equivalents.
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Speaker 1: Who was looking for trouble last night?
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Speaker 2: Not the police who tried to defy the laws around protests.
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Speaker 2: Not the police who defied instructions and directions and created
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Speaker 2: a conflict.
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Speaker 1: Not the police.
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Speaker 2: All of this would have been better if we had
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Speaker 2: a Prime Minister who showed leadership on this stuff. We
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Speaker 2: know a lot more about the alleged terrorists behind the
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Speaker 2: Bondai massacre and the intelligence failures leading up to the
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Speaker 2: tragedy now. The ABC's Four Corners last night aired their
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Speaker 2: investigation into the nation's worst ever terror attack.
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Speaker 1: Compiled by Sean Rubinstein Dunlop.
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Speaker 2: It was informed by a former AS agent and it
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Speaker 2: revealed a long history of police and security engagement with
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Speaker 2: Sergeant and Navid Akram. Here's some of it, starting with
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Speaker 2: Navid Akram as a teenager and we'll.
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Speaker 7: Create for you boda.
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Speaker 1: We'll creep to obe a lot and on.
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Speaker 7: Versit of the flam gluivel laws that we are briefing,
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Speaker 7: then what if exist? Would you if you got school you.
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Speaker 8: Brought this room.
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Speaker 10: He's good and ASIO officers interviewed Navid Dukram and his father, Sajid.
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Speaker 10: A security official told Four Corners, Sajid promised that Navid,
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Speaker 10: then eighteen, would cut ties with extremists. This was the
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Speaker 10: first time Sajid Akram entered the picture. Sajidakram was a
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Speaker 10: mysterious figure, even to some who knew him. He'd migrated
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Speaker 10: from India in nineteen ninety eight, got married, and drifted
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Speaker 10: between jobs in fruit shops. A senior counter terrorism official
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Speaker 10: told US investigators now believe he may have already been
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Speaker 10: radicalized when he met with ASIO about his son. That
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Speaker 10: convinced them he wasn't. In a statement, ASIO said it
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Speaker 10: was constrained in its ability to respond to questions about
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Speaker 10: the Akrams because of an ongoing investigation, court case, and
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Speaker 10: royal commission. Sajid Akram's path to radicalization is critical to
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Speaker 10: those inquiries.
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Speaker 2: There's much to be considered here by the courts and
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Speaker 2: of course the looming Royal commission. But as you know,
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Speaker 2: one of the critical factors which the ABC in this
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Speaker 2: case did not avoid is the public climate over the
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Speaker 2: past two or more years.
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Speaker 10: October seventh, twenty twenty three, the Hamas terrorist attack on
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Speaker 10: Israel lit a fuse inside Australia's extremest scene. One group
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Speaker 10: celebrated the deaths of nearly twelve hundred people.
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Speaker 1: I'm mighty and unhappy.
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Speaker 10: On Izziden at Al Medina Dhawa Center. Wi some Hahdad's
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Speaker 10: preacher's stoke antisemitism.
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Speaker 11: Towards the end the times, when the Muslims will be
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Speaker 11: fighting the Jews, the trees will seek, the soul will speak,
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Speaker 11: and I'll say, oh, Muslo believer, there is a Yaholdi
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Speaker 11: behind me, Come and kill him.
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Speaker 10: Ten months before the Bondai attack, Asio warned the killing
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Speaker 10: of Jews was now the greatest risk to public safety.
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Speaker 12: In terms of threats to life. It's my agency's number
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Speaker 12: one priority because of the weight of incidents we're seeing
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Speaker 12: play out in this country.
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Speaker 10: When more than one hundred thousand people marched against civilian
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Speaker 10: deaths in Israel's war in Gaza, Wishdad exploited the moment
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Speaker 10: posting this photo of a man on the Sydney Harbor
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Speaker 10: Bridge waving the flag made infamous Budgy Hardests. It was
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Speaker 10: the isis recruiter Usuf yuean At, released from jail after
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Speaker 10: meeting Navid Akram years earlier. In September twenty twenty five,
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Speaker 10: is Amic State issued a proclamation.
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Speaker 13: That statement from the spokesperson for Islamic State called for
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Speaker 13: attacks against the Jewish, Jews and against Christians. When these
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Speaker 13: statements get issued, there's usually any immediate response around the world.
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Speaker 2: Important stuff. Some of this information you would have known about.
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Speaker 2: Many of you would have seen it here many times
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Speaker 2: over the past two years, but for many ABC viewers
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Speaker 2: it probably was the first time they knew about some
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Speaker 2: of these developments. Four Corners didn't get into the political
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Speaker 2: debate around this. But as you know here on this
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Speaker 2: program and in other news court media, and from Australia's
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Speaker 2: Jewish community and security experts and some politicians, we've had
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Speaker 2: more than two years of warnings about where all this
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Speaker 2: could lead, with constant pleas for more action. No one
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Speaker 2: can say governments and authorities were not warned. Now we
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Speaker 2: are seeing more action. Tragically, after horrific bloodshed and with
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Speaker 2: the problem now much harder to arrest. Let's go to
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Speaker 2: Canberra now and catch up on the latest developments with
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Speaker 2: Shadow Attorney General Andrew Wallace.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 2: Andrew, First, your response to those protests the violence seen
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Speaker 2: in Sydney last night.
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Speaker 1: Do you believe police have a case to answer or
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Speaker 1: was this the work of the protesters.
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Speaker 6: Well as a starting proposition, Chris, Australians who live in
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Speaker 6: a democracy have a right to protest peacefully and lawfully.
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Speaker 7: But what we saw last night was not peaceful.
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Speaker 6: It certainly was not in accordance with the directions that
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Speaker 6: were given by police as protesters tried to effectively run
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Speaker 6: the gauntlet, run the line the containment lines that were
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Speaker 6: set by police, and police had the lawful right to
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Speaker 6: detain those who were trying to effectively run those lines.
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Speaker 2: Grace Tame a former Australian of the Year openly calling
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Speaker 2: for inter fada in Australia and elsewhere.
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Speaker 1: Your thoughts.
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Speaker 6: Well, Chris, It's just an absolute disgrace to be given
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Speaker 6: the Australian of the Year award is one of the
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Speaker 6: greatest privileges and honors that you can bestow upon an Australian.
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Speaker 6: It's designed to bring people together and what we have
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Speaker 6: seen is anything but to effectively be an Australian of
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Speaker 6: the Year and be shouting those sort of comments which
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Speaker 6: are calling for the death the annihilation of Israel as
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Speaker 6: a state and everybody that lives in it is an
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Speaker 6: absolute disgrace. And I think that the Australian National Awards
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Speaker 6: that basically provide these Australian of the Year awards, they
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Speaker 6: need to take a very very dim view of this.
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Speaker 7: We've got precedent. We've had incidents in.
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Speaker 6: The past where people have had their awards taken off
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Speaker 6: them and I think they should be taking a very
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Speaker 6: close look at Miss Tame.
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Speaker 2: Well, shouldn't Grace Tame hand it back. I mean, if
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Speaker 2: she's calling for into FARTA against Australia, she wouldn't want
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Speaker 2: to be Australian of the Year. In fact, she may
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Speaker 2: as well ship us off off shore if she wants into.
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Speaker 7: FARDA well, I don't think that would happen.
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Speaker 6: I mean, if you look at both activities of Miss
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Speaker 6: Tame since twenty twenty one. But ultimately these are matters
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Speaker 6: for the Australian Day Awards Council and I think they
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Speaker 6: need to betake a close look just quickly.
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Speaker 2: We hear that Angus Taylor might resign from the front
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Speaker 2: bench tomorrow to precipitate a leadership spill in.
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Speaker 1: The ensuing days.
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Speaker 2: Are you considering resigning from Susan Lee's front bench?
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Speaker 6: Absolutely not, Chris. I'm the Shadow Attorney General. I'm loyal
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Speaker 6: to the leader. Susan is our leader. There is no
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Speaker 6: challenge at the moment, but irrespective, I support Susan Lee
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Speaker 6: as our leader.
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Speaker 1: All right, that's it.
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Speaker 2: She's got two votes at the moment, yours and hers,
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Speaker 2: and then there'll be nothing out be bunny more. Thanks
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Speaker 2: for joining us, Andrew Wallace there, Shadow.
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Speaker 1: Attorney General, joining us live from Camberin.
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Speaker 2: Now let me share with you another blatant example of
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Speaker 2: deception and dishonesty in the debate over Israel. I told
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Speaker 2: you last night how the ABC was talking up the
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Speaker 2: Jewish opposition to the visit by the President of Israel,
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Speaker 2: Isaac Hertzog.
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Speaker 1: Here it is again.
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Speaker 14: Not just pro Palestinian groups, but large sections of the
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Speaker 14: Jewish community itself are very unhappy about President Hertzog visiting Australia.
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Speaker 2: Well, I picked up Laura Tingle and the ABC on
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Speaker 2: that egregious anti Israel propaganda last night. The evidence proffered
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Speaker 2: by Tingle was this advertisement in yesterday's editions of The
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Speaker 2: Age and The Sydney Morning Herald. It was placed by
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Speaker 2: the Jewish Council of Australia, a small anti Zionist activist group,
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Speaker 2: and it included six hundred names.
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Speaker 1: Now I pointed out last night that with.
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Speaker 2: The Australian Jewish community numbering one hundred and twenty thousand people,
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Speaker 2: this doesn't represent large sections of the Jewish community. It
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Speaker 2: represents about half of one percent of the Jewish community.
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Speaker 2: That was typical jaundice nonsense from the ABC, always barracking
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Speaker 2: for the anti Israel cause.
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Speaker 1: But it gets worse, much worse.
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Speaker 2: That advertisement purports to be a list of people saying
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Speaker 2: that the Israeli president does not speak for them and
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Speaker 2: is not welcome in Australia.
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Speaker 1: But Melbourne couple David and Tammy.
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Speaker 2: Slade say they never gave permission for their names to
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Speaker 2: be you used, and yet there they were, and they're
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Speaker 2: pleased that Hertzog is in Australia.
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Speaker 1: We asked the Jewish Council of Australia.
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Speaker 2: How many names were used in the advertisement without permission,
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Speaker 2: and you won't believe the response, they said. In less
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Speaker 2: than two days, our open letter saying no to Herzog's
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Speaker 2: visit received almost one thousand Jewish signatures, of which almost
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Speaker 2: seven hundred were used in the ad. We went through
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Speaker 2: a number of review processes, they say, to delete duplicates
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Speaker 2: and anti semic Semitic and offensive names which were submitted
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Speaker 2: by militious actors. Unfortunately, a handful of names with offensive
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Speaker 2: and obscure historical references and names of real Jewish people
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Speaker 2: falsely submitted by others slipped through the cracks. Some Jewish
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Speaker 2: people were also included in the list as genuine signatures,
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Speaker 2: but they have the same names as other Jewish community
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Speaker 2: members that can't be avoided. They reckon the handful of
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Speaker 2: false names are a tiny fraction of the nearly one
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Speaker 2: thousand Jews who signed the petition in forty eight hours.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 2: In other words, they've got no idea about the names
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Speaker 2: on their list, the real number of genuine signatories, or what.
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Speaker 1: Their views are.
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Speaker 2: In fact, some of the so called names turned out
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Speaker 2: to be in the paper. Ones that actually went to
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Speaker 2: print turned out to be obscene words in Hebrew. David
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Speaker 2: and Tammy Slade are in Israel at the moment, and
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Speaker 2: David joins me now live. Wow, this is quite incredible, David,
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Speaker 2: thanks for joining us. When did you first realize that
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Speaker 2: your name and that of your wife were listed in
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Speaker 2: this ad.
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Speaker 15: Look, we found that out yesterday morning. We're in Israel
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Speaker 15: right now, when we woke up to a flurry of
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Speaker 15: messages and phone calls saying that our names have been
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Speaker 15: published in a national two national newspapers saying that we
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Speaker 15: were against President heard Soog's visit. And we were immediately appalled.
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Speaker 15: These advertisements had names in them that were fictitious, as
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Speaker 15: you said, with Hebrew words, referencing historical figures, people who
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Speaker 15: are no longer alive, and of course they included people
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Speaker 15: who are Zionists, like my wife, Tammy and me, without
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Speaker 15: our knowledge, without our consent, without our approval, in a
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Speaker 15: national newspaper.
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Speaker 7: We were mortified. We were horrified.
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Speaker 15: This is a gross ethical failure, a clear act of misrepresentation,
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Speaker 15: and it corrodes communal community trust.
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Speaker 1: I wonder if you could tell me, David. Sorry sorry
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Speaker 1: to interrupt, David, just two points on that.
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Speaker 2: Have you received an apology from the Jewish Council of
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Speaker 2: Australia and what are your views of your view and
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Speaker 2: Tammy's views on the visit to Australia by President hertz.
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Speaker 15: Of We have received no communication and no correspondence FROMCA,
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Speaker 15: nor do we expect to. They have a lot to
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Speaker 15: answer for, as does the newspapers that published these gross misrepresentations.
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Speaker 15: Tammy and I are fully supportive of President Herzog's visit.
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Speaker 15: His visit comes at a time that is extremely important
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Speaker 15: for Australian Jews, for our community and to show unity,
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Speaker 15: especially after the Bondai massacre of Jewish people, and we
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Speaker 15: welcome his visit and we welcome his support. And there
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Speaker 15: is a start contrast between his leadership, his principled, unifying leadership,
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Speaker 15: and that of the unethical behavior of the JCA and
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Speaker 15: their publication false publication of names in the national newspapers.
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Speaker 2: David Slade thanks so much for joining us. I appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: David Slade there from Slade Pharmacies. He's the managing director.
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Speaker 2: He and his wife live in Melbour and they were
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Speaker 2: in that ad. They were listed by the Jewish Council
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Speaker 2: of Australia without their knowledge, against their wishes and they
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Speaker 2: support the visit of the Israeli president to Australia. They
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Speaker 2: owed an apology by the JCA and by the newspapers
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Speaker 2: who published those ads. We're going to get to a
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Speaker 2: break on the other side, Tim Blair will joined me
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Speaker 2: as those feral protesters finally get their come upance. But
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Speaker 2: let's talk about this squealing when it comes to alleged
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Speaker 2: police brutality. I mentioned before the complaints about alleged police
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Speaker 2: brutality at the protest in Sydney last night. Here's what
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Speaker 2: the New South Wales Police Commissioner Mal Langen had to
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Speaker 2: say about it earlier today.
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Speaker 16: The police did what they needed to do, which was
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Speaker 16: to hold the line and then form and move the
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Speaker 16: protesters back with a view to dispersing them.
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Speaker 1: That was designed to keep the community safe. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: pretty clear cut. But could you believe it?
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Speaker 2: There's another protest underway in Sydney as we speak, a
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Speaker 2: so called rally against police brutality, according to the Palestine
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Speaker 2: Action Group. Now, our senior reporter Matt Taylor, who was
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Speaker 2: there last night, is at police headquarters at Surrey Hills.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Pat.
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Speaker 2: I see Matt, I see so many police behind you,
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Speaker 2: but no sign of protesters yet.
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Speaker 17: There are quite a few processes just arriving in the
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Speaker 17: last few minutes or so. But you're right it would
25:29
Speaker 17: appear at this point in time that police really outnumbering
25:33
Speaker 17: the protests. Obviously they don't want to repeat of what
25:36
Speaker 17: transpired yesterday when we did see, of course, violence ensue
25:40
Speaker 17: when protesters were asked to move on. You can see
25:42
Speaker 17: the police contingent here right next door to the police headquarters,
25:47
Speaker 17: which is curiously Chris, you'll find this one interesting in
25:51
Speaker 17: a part called Harmony Park. But we're just going to
25:54
Speaker 17: flip around and show you the gathering so far. So
25:58
Speaker 17: this protest set to get off get underway in the
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Speaker 17: next few minutes or so. Of course, as you rightly
26:03
Speaker 17: point out, it is aimed at protesting against so called
26:07
Speaker 17: police heavy handedness at yesterday's protests.
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Speaker 1: You probably have to say there's.
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Speaker 17: About five hundred people here now, well short of what
26:15
Speaker 17: we saw yesterday where there were about six seven thousand
26:19
Speaker 17: protesters outside of town Hall before. Of course that protest
26:23
Speaker 17: did turn violent, but so far things are peaceful. A
26:28
Speaker 17: few drums being beaten, and people are generally just waiting
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Speaker 17: for things to get underway, but we'll be done here
26:35
Speaker 17: again in case things turn violent once again as they
26:38
Speaker 17: did last night.
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Speaker 1: Matt, thanks so much, Matt Taylor.
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Speaker 2: They're reporting live from Surrey Hills in Sydney. And if
26:45
Speaker 2: you're worried about crime in our suburbs or people driving
26:48
Speaker 2: around the streets like Hun's, and look at those protesters.
26:53
Speaker 2: They are the people who are keeping hundreds of police
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Speaker 2: away from normal duties last night and again tonight.
27:00
Speaker 1: Police that you want in.
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Speaker 2: The streets tracking down criminals and thieves and robbers and
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Speaker 2: DV offenders.
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Speaker 1: And the rest of it.
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Speaker 2: No, they're busy looking after a bunch of feral protesters
27:12
Speaker 2: night after night, weekend after weekend.
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Speaker 1: It's just a shocker.
27:17
Speaker 2: Let's go to Western Victoria now I catch up with
27:20
Speaker 2: the Daily Telegraphs, Tim Blair.
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Speaker 1: Tim mustrive you nuts as well, that you know, the law.
27:25
Speaker 2: Abiding citizens are desperate for police resources to be doing
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Speaker 2: the things they're trained to do, the things that police
27:31
Speaker 2: want to do, and they have to throw so many
27:34
Speaker 2: resources at these ferrals who just want to get out
27:37
Speaker 2: there and spew their hatred and division night after night.
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Speaker 12: Absolutely, and we see this everywhere, Chris, we see the
27:44
Speaker 12: West's generosity. It's philosophical generosity that we open the door,
27:49
Speaker 12: we allow marches, we allow protests, and that gets exploited
27:53
Speaker 12: and then when police respond to it, because they have
27:56
Speaker 12: to respond to it otherwise, manichee. When police respond to it,
27:59
Speaker 12: we have, as we've just seen from your Live cross
28:02
Speaker 12: we have a protest against the protest being protested. So
28:06
Speaker 12: it's it's insane and it shows a well you can't
28:10
Speaker 12: really call it a weakness of democracy, but it's certainly
28:13
Speaker 12: an exploited area of democracy that these people people go
28:18
Speaker 12: at all over the over and over again.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's just a shock.
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Speaker 2: And now you've written about flags this week, Yes, tell
28:28
Speaker 2: us more.
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Speaker 12: Well, these are.
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Speaker 1: The flags of hatred.
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Speaker 12: I mean, we've got in these in these demonstrations, we
28:37
Speaker 12: have harmass flags, we have the palacetin inflats. These basically
28:42
Speaker 12: stand for a raising Israel.
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Speaker 1: There.
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Speaker 12: They're the equal of hate, hateful ideologies that we saw
28:49
Speaker 12: during the middle of last century. And the fact that
28:52
Speaker 12: these people think that again it's a point of weakness.
28:56
Speaker 12: We allow these sort of things and we think, oh,
28:57
Speaker 12: it's a strength of democracy that we can tolerate to
28:59
Speaker 12: see at levels of conflict of that this high, Chris,
29:05
Speaker 12: I don't think we can tolerate. I think it's a
29:06
Speaker 12: good idea to clamp down on it even more strongly
29:08
Speaker 12: than we are, much more strongly because this is a
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Speaker 12: pre war level.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, a couple of things I noticed.
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Speaker 2: One is in the Melbourne protests last night there was
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Speaker 2: a bloke who burned the Australian flag and the Israeli flag,
29:21
Speaker 2: which is shocking. But also in the Sydney protests last
29:24
Speaker 2: night there were what looked like hes blah flags, which
29:27
Speaker 2: Hesbela means means resistance, apparently in Arabic, but instead of
29:34
Speaker 2: having the Arabic writing, they just wrote resistance.
29:37
Speaker 1: So the de.
29:38
Speaker 2: Facto hes bla flags supposedly trying to get around these
29:42
Speaker 2: sorts of bands.
29:43
Speaker 1: So it's a hell of a problem and.
29:46
Speaker 2: The hate being pushed out there just eight weeks after
29:50
Speaker 2: BONDI does my head in.
29:52
Speaker 12: Yeah, this is a it is. It is so infuriating
29:56
Speaker 12: that we've changed Australia so much that this is a
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Speaker 12: heard under all of our watch. We can't just blame
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Speaker 12: governments for this. This has occurred under the watch of
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Speaker 12: the people who have maybe become a little bit too
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Speaker 12: complacent and just thought that Australia had a magical capacity
30:10
Speaker 12: to turn everyone into nice people, and it hasn't happened.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way.
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Speaker 2: If you want to protect your values, you've got to
30:17
Speaker 2: fight for them all the time.
30:18
Speaker 1: Now, something happens to happy news for you.
30:20
Speaker 2: Is Anastasia Palachet, the former Premium Poins then has had
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Speaker 2: her portrait painted. I think we'll get a look at
30:27
Speaker 2: it here, surely, to see what sort of a portrait
30:29
Speaker 2: it is. There we go, a lovely piece of work. Apparently,
30:33
Speaker 2: let's hear what Anastasia had to say about it.
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Speaker 12: People living in New South Wales they have New South
30:39
Speaker 12: Wales hospitals.
30:40
Speaker 4: In Queensland, we have Queensland hospitals for our people.
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Speaker 1: Oh sorry, it's not her talking about her portrait.
30:47
Speaker 2: It's her showing us what a sort of a person
30:51
Speaker 2: she was, how committed she was to everyone in this nation,
30:54
Speaker 2: unless they were sick and on the other side of
30:56
Speaker 2: the border.
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Speaker 12: Ideally, if that portrait one to show the former queens
31:01
Speaker 12: and Premier as she genuinely is, it should be behind
31:04
Speaker 12: a barricade, or at least behind a COVID mask, because
31:08
Speaker 12: she was so big on all the COVID stuff. Also,
31:10
Speaker 12: I think it's fascinating that at the launch here we
31:12
Speaker 12: go right now you can see that Anastasia Palache apparently
31:16
Speaker 12: had the painting done that day and as has emerged
31:19
Speaker 12: from the emerged from the sitting straight away, so again
31:23
Speaker 12: it might be her permanent costume. Now it's an unusual
31:25
Speaker 12: sort of sequence of events.
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Speaker 1: Great to talk to you, Tim. We'll catch up with
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Speaker 1: you on Thursday. Tim Blair there read his stuff via
31:33
Speaker 1: the Daily Telegraph website.
31:34
Speaker 2: Now coming up, the Liberal Party still in turmoil, as
31:37
Speaker 2: we've mentioned earlier, with this leadership challenge looming. Liberal Senator
31:41
Speaker 2: Dave Sharma, who will.
31:42
Speaker 1: Join me live.
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Speaker 2: Coming up next Shadow Assistant Minister for Treasury. Dave Sharma,
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Speaker 2: Senator for Liberal Center for for New South Wales as well,
31:57
Speaker 2: joins us from camera.
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Speaker 1: Dave, thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 2: I was just wondering what you might think of this
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Speaker 2: story that I've shown at the top of the program.
32:06
Speaker 2: The Jewish Council of Australia, an organization, a small organization
32:10
Speaker 2: that you would know well, publishing through the Age and
32:13
Speaker 2: City Morning Herald. What it says a six hundred Jews
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Speaker 2: against the visit to Australia by Isaac Herzog. It turns
32:20
Speaker 2: out that some of these names are just obscenities in Hebrew.
32:25
Speaker 1: Others are people who are dead historical figures.
32:30
Speaker 2: And I've just did of you David Slade, who together
32:32
Speaker 2: with his wife Tammy, was listed in those ads. Never
32:38
Speaker 2: was any permission sought from them. They gave no permission
32:41
Speaker 2: and they are fully supportive of the President's visit. Isn't
32:45
Speaker 2: this typical of the anti Israel lobby trying to talk
32:48
Speaker 2: up descent in the Jewish community.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's appalling, but it's not surprising. I mean, when
32:57
Speaker 5: I saw those full page advertisements, my sense was it
33:00
Speaker 5: didn't stack up, and I certainly know that it's not
33:02
Speaker 5: the view of the overwhelming majority of the Jewish community
33:05
Speaker 5: in Australia. The Jewish Council of Australia's got a well
33:08
Speaker 5: known track record of trying to set itself up as
33:11
Speaker 5: a sort of a spokes body, if you like, for
33:13
Speaker 5: the Jewish community. To unsuspecting journalists who see the name
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Speaker 5: and think they must speak for the.
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Speaker 1: Jewish community, they don't at all.
33:20
Speaker 5: They're a fringe group. They're entitled to their views, but
33:23
Speaker 5: they shouldn't purport to be representing the mainstream body of
33:26
Speaker 5: opinion in the Jewish community when clearly they don't. And
33:29
Speaker 5: this debunking of their campaign by names of people who
33:32
Speaker 5: are dead, swear words and obscenities in Hebrew, and then
33:37
Speaker 5: people who've come out publicly on your show and said
33:40
Speaker 5: I'd never signed up to this just shows you this
33:43
Speaker 5: was an information operation that has been debunked.
33:47
Speaker 2: Yet our national broadcaster has said that AD demonstrates that
33:52
Speaker 2: large sections of the Jewish community are against the visit.
33:55
Speaker 1: That wouldn't be your experience.
33:57
Speaker 2: What are the Australian Jewish community as a former amb
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Speaker 2: to Israel.
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Speaker 5: No, it's absolutely not true. And you know, look, people
34:07
Speaker 5: are allowed to be against the visit. I've got sure
34:09
Speaker 5: with it, but people shouldn't be purporting to represent the
34:11
Speaker 5: views of other people saying that the Jewish community is
34:14
Speaker 5: divided about this or opinions even this. But it's not overwhelming.
34:17
Speaker 5: The Jewish community was traumatized, of course by the Bondai
34:22
Speaker 5: terrorist attack, and they would be taking comfort and solidarity
34:28
Speaker 5: from Isaac Hurtzok, the president of Israel's visit to Australia
34:31
Speaker 5: right now, Are.
34:32
Speaker 2: You expecting Angus Taylor and others to resign from the
34:35
Speaker 2: Shadow Cabinet tomorrow or Thursday.
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Speaker 5: I'm afraid I've I've got no particular insights to off.
34:42
Speaker 5: I can tell you Chris, I'm not running for the leadership.
34:44
Speaker 5: That's an exclusive. But the ambitions and aspirations of others
34:50
Speaker 5: I'm afraid I can't speak to.
34:51
Speaker 1: I have no insight to offer.
34:53
Speaker 5: I'm you know, I've been in Senate estimus today with
34:55
Speaker 5: the Department of Finance and Services Australia. I'm trying to
34:58
Speaker 5: do my job, which is to hould the government to
35:01
Speaker 5: a cat and I'll leave the intriguing to others.
35:03
Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, you can't really lead the show
35:05
Speaker 2: from the Senate anyway, but if the right person gets up,
35:09
Speaker 2: maybe they'll make you shadow Foreign Minister. We will see
35:11
Speaker 2: Dave Shama, thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 1: He'd be fantastic in that job.
35:15
Speaker 2: He's got so much expertise and experience in the area. Now,
35:20
Speaker 2: don't you hate it when politics Sully's sport. Yesterday's Super
35:24
Speaker 2: Bowl halftime performance by Puerto Rican sing a bad Bummy
35:28
Speaker 2: for Bunny fresh from the Grammys, Well there's been slammed
35:30
Speaker 2: as divisive, controversial, and political. Let's have a quick look
35:33
Speaker 2: at this report from ABC America.
35:40
Speaker 18: Music superstar Bad Bunny, bringing his native Puerto Rico to
35:44
Speaker 18: the Bay Area and the world, and ending his set
35:49
Speaker 18: with a plea for unity, saying God Plato America, naming
35:53
Speaker 18: dozens of countries across North, South, and Central America. With
35:57
Speaker 18: a parade of flags behind him, A billboard read the
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Speaker 18: Only thing more Powerful than Hate is Love, spiking of
36:04
Speaker 18: football with the message together we are America.
36:08
Speaker 1: Well.
36:08
Speaker 2: Donald Trump reacted pretty quickly to all of that. He
36:11
Speaker 2: put up a social media post saying the Souper Bowl
36:13
Speaker 2: halftime show is absolutely terrible, one of the worst ever.
36:19
Speaker 2: Now I had a fair idea what Christian type might
36:22
Speaker 2: think when I asked her whether the President was rot.
36:26
Speaker 4: Yes, I definitely agree with Trump, and so do so
36:30
Speaker 4: many Americans. I couldn't believe this halftime show. It was
36:33
Speaker 4: just a huge middle finger from the NFL to its
36:36
Speaker 4: own audience. I mean, who watches the NFL. The primary
36:40
Speaker 4: audience is like middle to older, middle aged to older
36:43
Speaker 4: men who are Americans. They just want to relax with
36:46
Speaker 4: a beer and watch the game. The NFL decided to
36:50
Speaker 4: broadcast their halftime show during the biggest sporting event of
36:54
Speaker 4: the year in a language that almost none of their
36:56
Speaker 4: audience can understand while waving flags from that none of
37:01
Speaker 4: their audience are from. And the whole thing was in Spanish.
37:05
Speaker 4: There were no subtitles provided, which made the whole thing
37:08
Speaker 4: even more strange to watch. Although I have to say, Chris,
37:11
Speaker 4: if they did provide subtitles and people saw the lyrics,
37:14
Speaker 4: they would see how vulgar these lyrics were. I couldn't
37:17
Speaker 4: believe it. It was just slop, I mean, very obscene lyrics.
37:21
Speaker 4: I'll just leave it at that. But yeah, the entire
37:24
Speaker 4: thing was kind of just this weird homage by bad
37:27
Speaker 4: Bunny to I guess illegal immigration, and he kind of
37:30
Speaker 4: tried to stick it to Ice. It was very political
37:33
Speaker 4: and a lot of the audience of the NFL was
37:35
Speaker 4: turned off by.
37:36
Speaker 2: Too much politics in sport as ever. Now, of course
37:39
Speaker 2: the game was played in California, where there's a fair
37:42
Speaker 2: bit of Spanish around, but the two teams were from Seattle,
37:46
Speaker 2: of course, the pinct Is and your Mob.
37:48
Speaker 1: Sorry to remind you, the New England Patriots. Not a
37:51
Speaker 1: lot of Spanish up your white.
37:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. It was just it was very political and
37:58
Speaker 4: off putting, and I mean, if you saw there were
38:01
Speaker 4: some interesting shots I saw on Twitter of the audience
38:05
Speaker 4: during the game watching this, and again this was in California.
38:08
Speaker 4: I guess a lot of these people are probably from California.
38:10
Speaker 4: And it was a very flat response, very few people dancing.
38:14
Speaker 4: It was just that people are very confused by the
38:17
Speaker 4: whole thing. It's a very odd Super Bowl p performance,
38:20
Speaker 4: the most strange one I've ever seen.
38:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it was also predictable.
38:23
Speaker 2: Of course, that Turning Point us saying they put on
38:27
Speaker 2: obviously organized this beforehand.
38:29
Speaker 1: An alternative halftime shot. I have a look at that.
38:33
Speaker 3: Welcome to the Turning Point USA All American Halftime Show.
38:39
Speaker 3: And this one's for you, Charlie.
38:47
Speaker 1: Now, I gotta say, Christian, I didn't say either of them.
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Speaker 1: Give us your assessment of.
38:52
Speaker 2: The Turning Point halftime Show and the difference in the
38:55
Speaker 2: political outlook if you like.
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Speaker 4: Well, the Turning Point Halftime Show gained millions of viewers,
39:02
Speaker 4: mostly people kind of just protesting the NFL and tuning
39:05
Speaker 4: into something alternative kid rock saying, and then there were
39:09
Speaker 4: some other kind of generic country singers.
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Speaker 1: I saw it.
39:13
Speaker 4: I thought it was a little bit boring, to be honest,
39:15
Speaker 4: but it was a lot more pro America, and there
39:19
Speaker 4: was not this over to anti American messaging that we
39:22
Speaker 4: saw during the NFL's halftime show. So even if people
39:26
Speaker 4: aren't into country music, it's not really my thing. I
39:28
Speaker 4: think many people tuned in just to show their distaste
39:32
Speaker 4: for the NFL and make a point.
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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, when I'm watching a game of
39:36
Speaker 2: footy and it's halftime, I don't want any entertainment. I
39:39
Speaker 2: want to tell you I'll get a beer and something
39:42
Speaker 2: to wait and either cam my nerves will steal my
39:45
Speaker 2: soul for a big thought back. We shall see. But
39:47
Speaker 2: politics is everywhere in sport. It's so tragic because most
39:50
Speaker 2: of us enjoy our sport to escape from politics exactly.
39:55
Speaker 2: I just go want to get your thoughts on the
39:56
Speaker 2: lightest stats when it comes to the president and the
39:59
Speaker 2: me five hundred press interactions they say have been chalked
40:04
Speaker 2: up by Donald Trump about double what Joe Biden had
40:09
Speaker 2: engaged in in a similar period. I think it's even
40:12
Speaker 2: worse than that, isn't it, Because Joe Biden used to
40:15
Speaker 2: just sort of turn up for picture opportunities and people
40:18
Speaker 2: could film him falling off his bike or whatever. The
40:21
Speaker 2: difference with Donald Trump is there's so many press conferences,
40:24
Speaker 2: so many opportunities for the journalist to actually ask questions.
40:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is really a very transparent administration, very interacted
40:33
Speaker 4: with the press. As we remember with Joe Biden, the
40:37
Speaker 4: strategy there was kind of to let that press secretary
40:40
Speaker 4: handle all the questions and then hope that there were
40:43
Speaker 4: no follow ups that escaped containment. It was a very
40:47
Speaker 4: kind of secretive administration. And now we know that's because
40:51
Speaker 4: the President of the United States was dealing with some
40:54
Speaker 4: major health battles. I mean, I think he really wasn't
40:57
Speaker 4: involved the President of the United States and many the
41:00
Speaker 4: decisions that his administration was making day to day. But yeah,
41:05
Speaker 4: it's Trump is just he loves this. He's a media guy.
41:09
Speaker 4: This is sort of what he's made to do, and
41:13
Speaker 4: people love it.
41:14
Speaker 15: You know.
41:14
Speaker 4: That's part of the allure of the Trump administration. Love
41:17
Speaker 4: him or hate him, it's just a show. You can't
41:19
Speaker 4: stop watching these press conferences.
41:21
Speaker 2: For sure, and Lucky more lumpem. You're just got to
41:24
Speaker 2: love the transparency. They should be out there as actually
41:27
Speaker 2: be more of it from all of them. Thanks for
41:28
Speaker 2: joining us, Kristen catching next week. Sorry about those patriots.
41:31
Speaker 4: Thank you Chris, thank you, thank you.
41:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kristin actually got into the Super Bowl. You would
41:38
Speaker 2: when your local team team's in, but.
41:40
Speaker 1: They went down, of course, to Seattle.
41:41
Speaker 2: Now after the break we got Malcolm tim Well, he's
41:44
Speaker 2: had a go at you can you believe it?
41:45
Speaker 1: I'll show you that.
41:51
Speaker 2: Let's go to our Tuesday panel now with News Corps
41:53
Speaker 2: National Education Editor Susio O'Brien Joys and joining us from
41:56
Speaker 2: Melbourne and in the nation's capital, Radio two Double See
41:59
Speaker 2: Breakfast Hoth host Steven Sena Tiempe.
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Speaker 1: Great to see you both.
42:02
Speaker 2: I always want to yawn when I say this, Stephen,
42:05
Speaker 2: but there you know, the liberal.
42:06
Speaker 1: Leadership talk is ongoing.
42:08
Speaker 2: Maybe Angus Taylor resigns tomorrow, gets a spill happening Thursday.
42:13
Speaker 2: Typically that's what happens is you're about to leave Canberra.
42:16
Speaker 2: Maybe they stay over Thursday night and get it all
42:19
Speaker 2: sorted on Friday.
42:21
Speaker 1: Will that happen or is it all going to fizzle?
42:24
Speaker 16: Well, what I'm hearing, and what I've been hearing probably
42:26
Speaker 16: for the last three weeks now, is that they will
42:27
Speaker 16: go on Friday, that there will be a spill Friday morning. Angus,
42:33
Speaker 16: from what I understand, has the numbers, as I've been
42:36
Speaker 16: saying since. Look, he should have been the leader when
42:38
Speaker 16: the first ballot was held straight after the election. He's
42:41
Speaker 16: the best option at the moment. He needs to surround
42:44
Speaker 16: himself with good people and that is what I mean,
42:46
Speaker 16: people in his office, and he needs to listen to them,
42:48
Speaker 16: and he needs to learn how to frame a narrative
42:51
Speaker 16: and learn how to actually get a message out there.
42:53
Speaker 16: But I couldn't believe it when Susan Lee apparently said
42:56
Speaker 16: in the party room meeting today that disunity is death.
42:59
Speaker 16: No competence is death. The inability to frame a narrative
43:02
Speaker 16: is death. The inability to frame policies is death. The
43:05
Speaker 16: inability to sell a message is death. Forget about disunity.
43:09
Speaker 16: How about functionality?
43:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'd say disunity and all of those it
43:13
Speaker 2: is real death.
43:15
Speaker 1: That's the problem, Susie. Look, I think I've just got
43:17
Speaker 1: to do this.
43:17
Speaker 2: I think Angus Taylor at the moment, from the options available,
43:20
Speaker 2: is the best one. But it's very important, Susie. Not
43:23
Speaker 2: only that against people, good people in the office. More importantly,
43:26
Speaker 2: gets the best team, no more factional fights and whatever.
43:29
Speaker 2: If he knocks off Susan Lee, for instance, she's got
43:32
Speaker 2: to be given a significant job as a past leader,
43:35
Speaker 2: maybe agriculture or something that appeals to her.
43:38
Speaker 1: You've got to get give Andrew Hasty a strong role. YadA, YadA, YadA.
43:41
Speaker 2: Do you think that they can start to actually look
43:44
Speaker 2: like a decent team if they do.
43:45
Speaker 19: All that, Oh, look, they've got that's probably the best chance.
43:49
Speaker 19: But you know, I can't see them coming anywhere close.
43:51
Speaker 19: I mean, I absolutely agree with Steve and you know,
43:54
Speaker 19: I heard her say disunity is death, and I'm thinking, actually,
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Speaker 19: worse than disunity is irrelevance. And really that's what they're
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Speaker 19: at now. I mean in the city seats, they weren't
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Speaker 19: left winging enough to keep those seats. In the country,
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Speaker 19: they're not right wing enough to keep those seats. They've seen,
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Speaker 19: you know that they've been attacked on both sides. Where
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Speaker 19: is the political ground that they are going to be
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Speaker 19: able to stake out once they finally get themselves together,
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Speaker 19: get the good people that you say they need in
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Speaker 19: their offices and all the rest of it, sort out
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Speaker 19: that front bench. Where is the voter base? Are they
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Speaker 19: going to be able to ever claw it back from
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Speaker 19: the margins? That's what I think, you know, worse than
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Speaker 19: disunity is irrelevance and that's what we're looking at now.
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Speaker 2: Well viewers, Now I'll let you have a go in
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Speaker 2: a second, Stephen, because I want to mention to the
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Speaker 2: dear viewers that the people who should not be listened to,
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Speaker 2: apparently according to a former Prime minister, is you.
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Speaker 14: This is the inevitable consequence for the Liberal Party of
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Speaker 14: imagining that the goal of politics is to seek the approval.
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Speaker 1: Of the Sky News audience.
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Speaker 14: Now that may well represent many of the members of
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Speaker 14: their branches, but it does not represent Australia.
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Speaker 2: These a ripper old mt, isn't he Stephen? Forget anyone
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Speaker 2: who's watching this show.
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Speaker 16: The bloc who started the rot, except that's all the
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Speaker 16: blo who started the rot is now offering advice. As
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Speaker 16: I've always said, don't take advice who have a vested
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Speaker 16: interest in your failure. But look, the reality is that
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Speaker 16: there's one part of the party that wants to be
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Speaker 16: teer light. There's another part that seems to me one
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Speaker 16: wants to be one nation light. What they need to
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Speaker 16: be is true centrist conservatives. If they do that and
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Speaker 16: appeal to the majority of Australians, lower taxes, better economy,
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Speaker 16: better jobs, lifestyle, standard of living. These are the kind
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Speaker 16: of things I need to be talking about and go
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Speaker 16: after the government on its failures. They haven't been able
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Speaker 16: to land a blow. And this is the worst government
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Speaker 16: since Whitland.
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Speaker 2: It's not rocket science, Susie. I got to ask about
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Speaker 2: your column because it spoke to my life with two
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Speaker 2: boys at high school. Now, the emails, the WhatsApp groups,
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Speaker 2: the constant message for parents, and I know grandparents as well,
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Speaker 2: involved in school pickups and whatever.
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Speaker 1: It's over the top, isn't it.
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Speaker 19: Oh my god, Week two of school going back, and
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Speaker 19: I've already had four hundred and fifty emails from my kids'
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Speaker 19: school emails about events I will never be, events I
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Speaker 19: will never attend. Emails that I will never read, send
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Speaker 19: by people I don't care about. I can't even work
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Speaker 19: out how to read half of them because you need
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Speaker 19: a twelve step you know, digital authentication. I've got no
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Speaker 19: idea what my password is for my big pond email,
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Speaker 19: let alone to get into the school server. I do
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Speaker 19: know one button, and it's the magic one.
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Speaker 7: It's delete all.
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Speaker 19: I say, let's just do a delete whole hang yourself
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Speaker 19: out to drive to see what happens.
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Speaker 2: Well, look, you know, the mobile phone, all this communication
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Speaker 2: we have these days, such a blessing, but there's just
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Speaker 2: so much. The hardest thing is working out what's important
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Speaker 2: and what's not. I did get a text from a
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Speaker 2: school many moons ago school in Adelaida shall remain nameless.
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Speaker 1: They wanted to.
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Speaker 2: Talk to me urgently, and I'm worried that one of
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Speaker 2: my kids was heard or whatever.
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Speaker 1: Your fees are overdue.
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Speaker 2: Well, thanks very much for jumping out out of a
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Speaker 2: very important meeting with the Foreign Minister. Now, Steven Sanaciampo,
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Speaker 2: let's get your thoughts on.
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Speaker 1: The royals news.
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Speaker 2: A statement, an official statement that proves to us that
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Speaker 2: King Charles is profoundly concerned about the ongoing Andrew mount
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Speaker 2: Batton winsor saga about his little brother saga. That's delightful
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Speaker 2: royal understatement, isn't it.
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Speaker 5: Yeah?
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Speaker 16: And I think it was the thing that got me
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Speaker 16: about when I read this this morning, is that the
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Speaker 16: Palace is officially calling him mister mount Baton winsor. Now
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Speaker 16: so how the mighty have fallen? But look, I do
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Speaker 16: feel for the King here because I can't imagine. Look,
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Speaker 16: I'm sure he in you that his brother was a deviant,
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Speaker 16: but I don't know that he knew the extent of it,
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Speaker 16: so he's probably is very concerned about what's going on
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Speaker 16: at the moment, in the fact that his brother might
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Speaker 16: end up in jail before long.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well we will see jail now. That would be
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Speaker 1: a story for the agent.
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Speaker 2: Just briefly, Susie, no doubt you would admire Grace Tame
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Speaker 2: for the stand she took on sexual abuse of minors,
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Speaker 2: something that helped her get the Australian of the Year award.
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Speaker 1: I remain admirable an admirer.
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Speaker 2: Of that work of hers, But has she surrendered the
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Speaker 2: right to hold that title, even though from years gone
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Speaker 2: by after calling for inter farder in Australia.
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Speaker 19: Yeah, I think there's been a lot about cry about this.
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Speaker 19: I don't agree obviously with those comments, but you know,
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Speaker 19: I think her work in that space, I mean, that
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Speaker 19: does give you a platform, and she's using the platform,
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Speaker 19: and you know, it's a country free speech. We have
48:38
Speaker 19: to accept that sometimes she's going to say things that
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Speaker 19: we don't agree with, and I personally think she's done
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Speaker 19: amazing things and I would not like to see that
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Speaker 19: undermined by this kind of comment.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like the idea of taking it off her,
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Speaker 2: but I think if she wants into fart her in Australia,
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Speaker 2: she obviously doesn't like Australia, so she should.
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Speaker 1: Hand it back.
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Speaker 2: And I think the best award every year for Australia
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Speaker 2: the year is the one that sounded out by the
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Speaker 2: Australian newspaper, which does a better job. For instance, one
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Speaker 2: year they gave it to the first female jockey to
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Speaker 2: win the Melbourne Cup.
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Speaker 1: Didn't get a look in with all the other ones.
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Speaker 2: Great to talk to you again, Steve and Susie will
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Speaker 2: catch up with you again next Tuesday. I just want
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Speaker 2: to share some of your feedback from this issue about
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Speaker 2: Israel and how the athletes were booed at the Olympics
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Speaker 2: and all the rest of it. One viewer says, even
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Speaker 2: if they booed you in the stands, there are people
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Speaker 2: worldwide who are cheering for you. Their cheers drown out
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Speaker 2: the hate. Let's hope that's the case. Another viewer says,
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Speaker 2: right on the money, mister Kenny. The protesters are in
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Speaker 2: a small minority, and one more viewer says they not
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Speaker 2: only pretend to support Palestine, they pretend to know what
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Speaker 2: they're talking about. They know nothing about what's going on
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Speaker 2: in the Middle East.
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Speaker 1: Ain't that the truth?
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Speaker 2: Yet still they protest, and yet still they get so
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Speaker 2: much support from many in the media and in politics. Now,
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Speaker 2: I'm going to see Peter Quidlin tonight, but you're not
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Speaker 2: in her stead, is the ever reliable Richmond supporter, Steve.
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Speaker 1: I see he's up next. I'll see you tomorrow, mm hmm.