Latest / Corie Sheppard Podcast / Episode 178 | "Holidayland"
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- 0:20Speaker 2: Welcome to episode 178 of the Corey Shepard podcast.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Welcome back to everybody who's been listening.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Welcome to all the new listeners.
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- 0:39Speaker 2: So congratulations to all the children who do the essay right.
- 0:42Speaker 2: Congratulations to all the children who do the essay right, first and foremost right.
- 0:44Speaker 2: Congratulations to all here.
- 0:45Speaker 2: Your time's done.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Congratulations to my boy, zachary.
- 0:48Speaker 2: He went through all the pressure of essay.
- 0:49Speaker 2: He came out on the right side of it.
- 0:51Speaker 2: Salute to all the youths in the area here.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Salute to Mr Quiller and Navin and the folks in the school who put him through it.
- 0:58Speaker 2: There's about 12 little children inside here in my area alone Lone Rite, sca.
- 1:04Speaker 2: So congrats to all of you.
- 1:05Speaker 2: All you do great.
- 1:05Speaker 2: I have too much all this to call by name.
- 1:06Speaker 2: All you do great.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Most important thing is that all you show up on the day and all you get that exam done.
- 1:12Speaker 2: All you show up.
- 1:13Speaker 2: All you had a long time of being under pressure but I really come to play this song for the parents who had to survive this ordeal and for the teachers who had to survive this ordeal.
- 1:26Speaker 2: He's trying to know nothing about this.
- 1:27Speaker 2: He's trying to know nothing about this.
- 1:31Speaker 3: They've a way Party time.
- 1:32Speaker 3: Anybody from Pablos.
- 1:35Speaker 3: Anybody from Guyana.
- 1:38Speaker 3: Anybody from St Lucia.
- 1:41Speaker 3: Anybody from Grenada, grenada, st Lucia.
- 1:44Speaker 3: Anybody from Dwelleda, dwelleda, st Lucia, guyana Bamidose.
- 1:52Speaker 3: Tiga chum tiga chum tiga, chum tiga, chum tiga, chum tiga, chum tiga, chum no.
- 1:55Speaker 3: Tiga chum tiga, chum tiga, chum tiga, chum tiga, chum tiga, chum tiga, chum tiga, chum no.
- 2:03Speaker 4: Anybody from Den, anybody from St Lucia, anybody from Antigua, anybody from Jamaica, jamaica, ant, yes, man, show me, oh this one, this one, oh, this one.
- 2:38Speaker 1: I come back home for the carnival.
- 2:52Speaker 2: I come back home to feel nice.
- 2:54Speaker 4: I come back home for the festival.
- 2:56Speaker 4: Thank you, which part, which part?
- 2:58Speaker 4: Which part On your own, on your own.
- 3:00Speaker 4: Tell them On your own, which part On your own, jump up and play yourself.
- 3:04Speaker 2: Jump up, jump up and play yourself, jump up, jump up and play yourself.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Hey, hey, jump up and play, jump up, jump up and play yourself.
- 3:14Speaker 2: Jump up and play yourself, jump up and play yourself.
- 3:20Speaker 4: Jump up, jump up and play yourself.
- 3:22Speaker 4: Hey, hey, jump up and play, hey, hey, jump, play yourself, jump up and play yourself, jump up and play yourself, jump up and play.
- 3:31Speaker 4: Jump up with the South Star, jump up with the nuts man, jump up with the corner Jump up with the pie man, jump, jump, everybody, jump, jump In the.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Everybody in the party.
- 3:43Speaker 2: Why ain't you bum?
- 3:43Speaker 2: See A lot of bum, see here, Listen, the SCA had a bigger toll on me, so let's run it.
- 3:49Speaker 2: Mark the knife Markintosh, you know how long we play Ronnie.
- 3:53Speaker 2: The SCA take a bigger toll on men than I thought.
- 3:55Speaker 2: Right, the SCA, knock more.
- 3:56Speaker 2: I can't recover.
- 3:57Speaker 2: Up to now.
- 3:58Speaker 2: I've been sleeping for the last two weeks, right, only missed me last week.
- 4:03Speaker 2: I miss all the people that have been sleeping.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Congratulations again to all the Trent parents, everybody who was involved in this, trent and Essie and them kind of thing.
- 4:10Speaker 2: Thank God, that is done, it's over.
- 4:13Speaker 2: We survive.
- 4:14Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 4:15Speaker 2: We survive.
- 4:15Speaker 2: We come out on the right side.
- 4:16Speaker 2: Oh Lord, that thing was a little more pressure than I thought.
- 4:20Speaker 2: We carried the man down in the Essie.
- 4:22Speaker 2: I had to get all the what.
- 4:22Speaker 2: We carry the man down in the essay, how the girl who happened here see before we move on to this week, right, but we carry man down in the essay.
- 4:28Speaker 2: The the trend, and I'm nervous.
- 4:29Speaker 2: The teacher was there, everybody trying to keep everybody together and they went in and they write the exam and as soon as they write it, they're going in to write the exam.
- 4:38Speaker 2: I would stay here I say, girl, we're selling liquor, we have liquor selling.
- 4:42Speaker 2: It was hard, I tell you, the night before, getting up that morning and thinking something I will never forget.
- 4:48Speaker 2: I will never forget that.
- 4:50Speaker 2: And at the point when he going into the exam is the most amongst the prayers, they see, do a whole seance the night before, everything done, done, and it's in between he hands and the lord hands.
- 5:01Speaker 2: At that point in time, there, nothing you could do but go and look for a drink.
- 5:04Speaker 2: So we went on a day drinking Woodford Cafe to the point where we overslept.
- 5:08Speaker 2: You know them, parents of them, who reached late to pick up the train from SCA, and I cast up sleeping since that SCA.
- 5:18Speaker 2: I tried my best to recover.
- 5:19Speaker 2: But we hear, we hear, we hear the exam is done, it's over, all them turn on vacation.
- 5:24Speaker 2: Well, let's do Easter time, let's take a little vacation.
- 5:27Speaker 2: And them kind of thing too.
- 5:27Speaker 2: Because every year for Easter I always be saying that we should do something, we should take a little vacation.
- 5:33Speaker 2: You know what I mean, because I always find myself at home with not much to do Easter time at all and thinking, hey, maybe I should get something done, get some.
- 5:49Speaker 2: Thinking, hey, maybe I should, maybe I should get something done, get some kind of vacation, a staycation, do something.
- 5:51Speaker 2: But I always end up home bored for easter, like palestice he wasn't taking me on this, you know, because she's going on vacation, mine alone.
- 5:57Speaker 2: This runs.
- 5:57Speaker 2: But the easter is an interesting easter, right, and I have an episode built around the easter being as interesting as it is.
- 6:07Speaker 2: But before I get into it, I want to tell you what I do over the Easter weekend.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Right, I did go to church on Palm Sunday for some reason.
- 6:14Speaker 2: I think it's a lot to do with my grandmother, right?
- 6:18Speaker 2: Well, you know me, I go to church and all these other things too often.
- 6:21Speaker 2: You know me, I'm a big church man and all these things.
- 6:24Speaker 2: But Palm Sunday, because of my grandmother, was always special to me and I think it's the bringing home of the palms I don't know what it is makes that stand out to me.
- 6:34Speaker 2: I always used to remember when she'd bring home the palms and things.
- 6:37Speaker 2: You know they make the palm into a little.
- 6:40Speaker 2: I know it's called that one ito p and cross me in a way.
- 6:42Speaker 2: It's called it.
- 6:43Speaker 2: Now it's.
- 6:43Speaker 2: My next thing is make it with a hook.
- 6:44Speaker 2: It's look like joseph one of them thing you used to think the sheep and them.
- 6:48Speaker 2: Now it's looking for something like that, but these she used to bring home these things and I'm not sure if it's the fact that they used to come home as what you want to call it, like a living plant.
- 6:58Speaker 2: It used to be green and then he used to see.
- 7:00Speaker 2: She used to keep them for the whole year.
- 7:01Speaker 2: They used to stay there and get brung over the year and then she would bring back new ones every year.
- 7:06Speaker 2: Easter and I think something about that, signified a kind of renewal to me in life, not just like New Year's.
- 7:12Speaker 2: You know, new Year's is still brand new.
- 7:14Speaker 2: Easter is a period.
- 7:15Speaker 2: I guess that's what Easter is about, right, the dying and the resurrection and all them things.
- 7:19Speaker 2: So maybe it's metaphors for all them things going on in my mind.
- 7:21Speaker 2: But I did decide to go to church with the family on Palm Sunday, I guess on Palm and so on.
- 7:27Speaker 2: I didn't really cater for how long church would have been.
- 7:31Speaker 2: Church was long, me and Noet, our whole procession no, I see my grandma used to be going through to get all them to the Palm to come home, because our whole procession, salute to the you could say that like salute to the church, that to the um, you could say that like salute to the church.
- 7:47Speaker 2: That that would be proper.
- 7:48Speaker 2: But salute to the chagonas parish, right, uh, the catholic church in chagonas.
- 7:50Speaker 2: I have a little plan in it.
- 7:51Speaker 2: I have a small plan, I think you know I know if I don't know if I would get there, but I'm thinking about it.
- 7:56Speaker 2: I feel I want to go and play in the choir for the chagonas parish.
- 7:59Speaker 2: I point it out there, right, I point it out now because the chagonas parish have a guitarist there who's a very, very bad boy a bad boy, listen.
- 8:07Speaker 2: He had it and the choir song in good.
- 8:09Speaker 2: The guitarist could play and they have a little fella beating the drum.
- 8:12Speaker 2: He couldn't do se yet but he tightened them drums.
- 8:15Speaker 2: So I feel like gonna fall and fit my way into that and walk with a quattro there and see if they go.
- 8:19Speaker 2: Accept me.
- 8:20Speaker 2: You know it's always learn a lot when you, when you play with them fellas.
- 8:23Speaker 2: I also went to church easter sunday.
- 8:24Speaker 2: I want to tell you how shame I was feeling, right, because church start 10 o'clock and I reached my father and them invite me down to church.
- 8:32Speaker 2: You know, I mean me and zachary.
- 8:33Speaker 2: So we go down to church and thing I organized zachary's a man to time, to where he's not the kind of fellow who just be running late.
- 8:39Speaker 2: So to tell you the truth, let me tell you the truth.
- 8:42Speaker 2: Right, in this household it's only one person who runs late for things.
- 8:48Speaker 2: I mean, you can't call anyone's name or anything like that.
- 8:51Speaker 2: You've got to work that out for yourself.
- 8:52Speaker 2: Right, but certain men in this house move to time.
- 8:55Speaker 2: When men say 10 o'clock, we're down there by 10, right, but the truth is that when a certain person was not around, who we want to blame for reaching late?
- 9:03Speaker 2: We reach later than we've ever reached anywhere before in life.
- 9:08Speaker 2: We catch up starting 10 o'clock.
- 9:09Speaker 2: We reach down quarter past 11.
- 9:11Speaker 2: Shame.
- 9:12Speaker 2: I get up late.
- 9:13Speaker 2: I go on an exercise.
- 9:15Speaker 2: We leave home late.
- 9:16Speaker 2: I stop in Wendy's for breakfast.
- 9:17Speaker 2: Don't ever stop in Wendy's for breakfast.
- 9:19Speaker 2: Only bad talk, starbucks and only me thinking, boycotcotting.
- 9:23Speaker 2: I still am going wendy's and get breakfast.
- 9:24Speaker 2: That breakfast and wendy's take about half hour, not me and them again.
- 9:28Speaker 2: All you could say what they want about prestige holdings.
- 9:30Speaker 2: Prestige holdings is a, a well-oiled machine, because when you go there to get your coffee and your food you're in and out.
- 9:37Speaker 2: One time you don't wait, but not by wendy's wendy's drive-thru in brentwood.
- 9:41Speaker 2: There you have to drive-thru and when you reach and you pay they're telling you well, excuse me, mine parking in the car park there and waiting.
- 9:48Speaker 2: So you got to come out of the drive-thru park in the car park and watch that door by that Wendy's sign to see if your sandwich will ever come out.
- 9:54Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 9:55Speaker 2: By the time it come out, you forget you're hungry.
- 9:57Speaker 2: I reach the place quarter past 11.
- 10:06Speaker 2: I said zachary boy, a shame you want to go in.
- 10:07Speaker 2: What you want to do?
- 10:07Speaker 2: I said, all right, we'll go by the back door.
- 10:08Speaker 2: I say, oh, you do you go down by the back door?
- 10:08Speaker 2: It's a small church right in diamond.
- 10:09Speaker 2: It's diamond is the name of the place.
- 10:11Speaker 2: Boy picked on a small church and we go on in the back of the church and stand up and as I go on and stand up, a lady say hi, y'all are visiting.
- 10:18Speaker 2: I said, oh, lord.
- 10:19Speaker 2: I said no, no, no, we don't want to go in while this sermon is going on.
- 10:22Speaker 2: This is how late we are right.
- 10:24Speaker 2: I'm surprised church is still going on, to be honest, and this woman says, no, well, pastor, the priest, father will do a blessing for Easter.
- 10:31Speaker 2: You all will get blessed.
- 10:32Speaker 2: Come, let me show you where you can go and sit.
- 10:33Speaker 2: That's a mistake I make.
- 10:35Speaker 2: Salute to Michelle Lee.
- 10:36Speaker 2: Michelle Lee is the lady name right the?
- 10:40Speaker 2: She said oh no, you have to come in.
- 10:41Speaker 2: Father's going to bless you.
- 10:42Speaker 2: I don't limitalism.
- 10:43Speaker 2: That woman carried me up in the front of the church.
- 10:46Speaker 2: Now I had to fit in between people.
- 10:48Speaker 2: Shame.
- 10:49Speaker 2: By the time we were reaching church looking to done, and you know, little children have a way they could find a way to bring further embarrassment to the embarrassment you're done feeling already.
- 11:00Speaker 2: It's a special trait that children have Because, with all the late, we reach right, we sit down, we went through the thing, we go, you know, I mean they're going through the normal well, the rest of the service.
- 11:12Speaker 2: Now to do the um, what you call it, when you get somebody show, somebody assign a piece and you and you take communion and all them things going on, when the thing done now, which is literally 10 minutes after we reaching the priest, wrapping up and saying, well, I wanted to be.
- 11:26Speaker 2: Uh, just make a short announcement that we do have some treats for the children for easter.
- 11:31Speaker 2: We don't reach this so late.
- 11:33Speaker 2: When that man said that, zachary say, yes, you can, you can just play along with this thing and let me, let me go.
- 11:43Speaker 2: But but I glad that I did'm glad I went to church a couple times too.
- 11:47Speaker 2: Like I tell all of you, I ain't no big religious man, but hearing these sermons and hearing some of the messages, especially on momentous times for the church like Easter, is a special thing to me.
- 11:58Speaker 2: But I want to read an article for you here that pretty much sums up this Easter weekend.
- 12:02Speaker 2: I find Trinidad personally a too much holiday.
- 12:04Speaker 2: Right, it's way too much holidays here.
- 12:07Speaker 2: As you see, this sort of double time and time and a half and triple time and all them sort of it's just too much, too much, too much holidays.
- 12:15Speaker 2: And Easter is a good, um, a good representation of those too many holidays, because school on holidays and we could look forward to good friday and easter, monday holiday.
- 12:26Speaker 2: And when I was at the barber, saluta reynold beardologist.
- 12:29Speaker 2: What are you sitting by, reynold, telling me saturday is a holiday?
- 12:32Speaker 2: It's like not glorious.
- 12:33Speaker 2: Saturday is not holiday.
- 12:34Speaker 2: The man said, not a spiritual baptist liberation day.
- 12:36Speaker 2: You know, I mean, it's just so much going on, it's just so many holidays, but this weekend was a special weekend because I saw some memes going around that said that what makes Trinidad so unique is that you could have one weekend where we celebrate Easter.
- 12:51Speaker 2: We celebrate Spiritual Baptist Liberation Day on one of the days that go along with Easter Gloria Saturday, I believe Sunday was Pagwa.
- 13:01Speaker 2: I talk about this from a St James standpoint.
- 13:04Speaker 2: I saw you saluteuted jappas or curtis.
- 13:06Speaker 2: Rather, a lot of people from sin james say this is how we grew up.
- 13:09Speaker 2: We grew up with one festival after our next.
- 13:11Speaker 2: Whatever the festival is, we partake in it.
- 13:13Speaker 2: We partake with it in our neighbors, whether it is you're partaking it as an onlooker, observer, somebody who is where the the, the gab that comes with it with the festival, whether it be religious or otherwise, eat the food, or just partaking it from a standpoint of immerse yourself in the culture, immerse yourself in these people's day.
- 13:32Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 13:33Speaker 2: This is where it is.
- 13:35Speaker 2: We don't have to be of that religion to be a part of it.
- 13:38Speaker 2: And it's almost like me who like to say I'm not religious.
- 13:42Speaker 2: I partake in every single religion they had, while I say I'm not religious, I partake in every single religion they had.
- 13:48Speaker 2: While I say I'm not, really I must be more religious than plenty other people and it's just.
- 13:50Speaker 2: It's just a very trinidadian way.
- 13:51Speaker 2: So that's my saint james experience.
- 13:52Speaker 2: But I'm sure you all could tell me that where you born and grow, you had the same kind of experiences, particularly for people who live abroad or for people who travel.
- 13:58Speaker 2: This is not a normal thing where you're in baptist way on a glorious saturday as a catholic or you know, I mean, you're a hindu and you're in baptist way because it's baptist liberation day.
- 14:09Speaker 2: These are not.
- 14:11Speaker 2: These things are not the norm.
- 14:13Speaker 2: So, as a as a quick example, I leave in diamond to come back into palmas and driving through pagwa in palmas park.
- 14:20Speaker 2: So after you come from church, easter sunday, driving through a pagwa celebration and you, you driving through a Pagwa celebration and you drive through there with reverence, with respect, onlooking and saying that it's looking like a good time.
- 14:30Speaker 2: It's so nice to see the train having fun and people enjoying something, with no prejudice or no religious persecution or malice towards somebody else.
- 14:39Speaker 2: But I did see this and it summed it up pretty well.
- 14:42Speaker 2: This is from the news days Sean Douglas Kamlo said Baptist prayers saved my father, opposition leader Kamlo, and it's a picture of Kamlo Posadbe Sesso seemingly in a well, in full Baptist.
- 14:53Speaker 2: You could call this Baptist regalia my word is never really good enough, she's African way, right, you know what I mean.
- 14:58Speaker 2: And attending a ceremony for the Baptistist liberation day, opposition leader kamala posadby sessa said baptist blessings had once saved her father from grave, a grave illness, and she thought the faith's prayers could now save trendad and tobago.
- 15:12Speaker 2: She was addressing the spiritual spiritual shelter baptist day celebrations in maruga on march 30th when she related how she became a baptist, how she had become a baptist as a child in a liberal Hindu family.
- 15:25Speaker 2: First she thanked Baptist elders for their tireless contributions to churches, communities, families and the nation as a beacon of hope and stability.
- 15:32Speaker 2: But Sad B's sister said she was baptized into the faith, which is very important to me personally and that changed her life for the better.
- 15:40Speaker 2: My parents were Hindus but very liberal, so we were taught to embrace all religions and ethnicities.
- 15:45Speaker 2: When I was a child in 1961, living in Taparia, my late father, lilraj Pasad, became very ill.
- 15:52Speaker 2: The public hospital did tests but they could not detect anything wrong.
- 15:55Speaker 2: He was bedridden at home and possibly dying.
- 15:58Speaker 2: An aunt convinced him to attend the spiritual Shorter Baptist Church in Quarry Village.
- 16:02Speaker 2: She related he went for many weeks to receive blessings and prayers and he miraculously began to get better.
- 16:09Speaker 2: So he decided to be baptized, along with his wife and children, in the spiritual shorter baptist faith.
- 16:14Speaker 2: And we, we, began attending the church on sundays.
- 16:17Speaker 2: But sad be sessile.
- 16:18Speaker 2: Recall being baptized by elder mother in charge of the congregation at quinan beach.
- 16:21Speaker 2: As she ducked my head into the ocean, she announced that I was one of god's children now and under his care and protection.
- 16:27Speaker 2: And as my head emerged from the waters, mother said to me from this day forward, child, you must put god in front and walk behind, and all my life I have put god in front and walk behind.
- 16:38Speaker 2: Pesad besetzer hope baptist would now pray for trinidad and tobago.
- 16:41Speaker 2: But even as we stand here in joy today, I say our country desperately needs your powerful prayers.
- 16:46Speaker 2: As you know, we are currently facing a destructive, unprecedented crime and violence wave that threatens our very survival as a nation.
- 16:53Speaker 2: So today I ask you, I ask your great community, to please say a special prayer for Trinidad and Tobago to overcome this darkness.
- 16:59Speaker 2: Pray for us as a nation to triumph over evil, as your foreparents did, knowing that weeping.
- 17:06Speaker 2: Weeping may endure it for a night, but rejoicing comes in the morning.
- 17:09Speaker 2: Psalm 35.
- 17:12Speaker 2: I find this article pretty much sum up who we are as trinidadians.
- 17:16Speaker 2: You know the good side, like I saw somebody recently saying, like influencers, like you're seeing them coming to trinidad.
- 17:23Speaker 2: What's the little white girl name?
- 17:24Speaker 2: Again, the little british girl.
- 17:25Speaker 2: I can't remember the woman name, but a young girl who come here and she, she seemed to be stuck here.
- 17:29Speaker 2: Uh, what's the youth man name from nigeria?
- 17:32Speaker 2: Again, who's coming.
- 17:33Speaker 2: The little facebook youth man.
- 17:34Speaker 2: One day I go come here with names prepared and I'm kind of thinking away.
- 17:37Speaker 2: Today, uh, I saw him come and went back to guy and he come back trinidad.
- 17:41Speaker 2: He went j Jamaica.
- 17:42Speaker 2: He come back Trinidad again.
- 17:43Speaker 2: So something about Trinidad, despite how we there's so much despair I mean it's having enough stories that could depress you here in terms of crime and the state of the country but there's something that's causing us to attract people and people stuck here they don't want to leave.
- 18:02Speaker 2: You know what I mean, and like Stacy was telling me the other day, is the people and the experience that our tourists might have here is not the experience that the average trinidadian will have.
- 18:11Speaker 2: You know, we're very embracing and welcoming and warm to the to to tourists and people.
- 18:16Speaker 2: We want people to see our country and partake in our cultural festivals and things.
- 18:20Speaker 2: So we had a.
- 18:21Speaker 2: We had an easter that was very, very reflective of what Trinidad is and what it means to be Trinidadian.
- 18:29Speaker 2: So I have some songs lined up for you today, because in one weekend we have the whole of Easter, we have Spiritual Baptist Liberation Day, we have Pagwa, we have All Fools Day.
- 18:41Speaker 2: All Fools Day is out there.
- 18:44Speaker 2: They have a long list of things.
- 18:47Speaker 2: So I want to start by playing a song for Easter, if you're accustomed being here and if you're a day one listener you know, a wonderful Easter here is an island.
- 19:12Speaker 5: No place can better.
- 19:13Speaker 5: If you want a wonderful Easter here is an island, no place can better.
- 19:19Speaker 5: It's situated south of America and it's on the border of Venezuela.
- 19:25Speaker 5: An opportunity you had.
- 19:27Speaker 5: I introduce you to the island of Trinidad.
- 19:30Speaker 5: Everybody Easter Easter in Trinidad.
- 19:35Speaker 5: Super to beat it is really hard.
- 19:40Speaker 5: It is fascinating and entertaining.
- 19:44Speaker 5: It is fascinating and entertaining.
- 19:45Speaker 5: Everybody knows to spend an Easter In the land of the calypso.
- 20:07Speaker 5: As the sun rises in the morning, holiday makers set for their outing.
- 20:20Speaker 5: You have thousands of different dances, large excursions down to the beaches and the gorgeous dresses the ladies wear, with their Easter bonnets to beautify their hair.
- 20:31Speaker 5: They look so adorable.
- 20:33Speaker 5: A scenery that is unforgettable.
- 20:35Speaker 5: Everybody Easter Easter in Trinidad.
- 20:40Speaker 5: Super To beat it is really hard.
- 20:46Speaker 5: It is fascinating and entertaining.
- 20:50Speaker 5: Everybody knows to spend an Easter in the land of the Calypso Easter.
- 21:18Speaker 2: Easter in Trinidad.
- 21:19Speaker 2: Easter in Trinidad.
- 21:20Speaker 2: Roger Parry and Roshan Parry come from.
- 21:22Speaker 2: If you wasn't following his story, roshan Parry, say where everybody was thinking that Kamla should step down.
- 21:28Speaker 2: But Kamla ain't taking that.
- 21:29Speaker 2: What do you feel this is?
- 21:29Speaker 2: You feel this is a free for all?
- 21:31Speaker 2: You feel Kamla ain't going to go, finish a little Baptist blessing and come back for you, roshan Parry, kamla lays down the UNC law, tells Parry dissidents two-party line of face expulsion.
- 21:41Speaker 2: Opposition leader is from akka samarini.
- 21:45Speaker 2: Guardian right opposition leader kamla pasad bisesa is threatening, to my error, mp russian pirate expulsion from the party if he begins to vote against the party line in parliament.
- 21:55Speaker 2: In an exclusive interview the guardian media yesterday, pasad bisesa spoke frankly about the latest internal discord after parry on a political platform, on a public platform last friday, a student called for unc executive to respect the voice of its members and call the internal party elections, which he said are due in june.
- 22:14Speaker 2: Given the friction between parry and pesad becessus since the former's announcement, guardian media asked what their relationship would be like leading up to our next general election, addressing Parry and any other dissidents, in other words, anybody who contested right.
- 22:27Speaker 2: Thus far they have not exhibited any divisions in the parliament they have voted along party lines.
- 22:33Speaker 2: I know if he is one of those people who spoiled their ballots or I don't know if he's one of the people who spoiled their ballots for the election of the president of Christine Kangaloo.
- 22:41Speaker 2: But in the parliament, thus far they have gone along with the party line put forward by the chief whip.
- 22:46Speaker 2: Right the boss.
- 22:47Speaker 2: But the day they should break the party line, the party's constitution is very clear again on what would be the consequence and they would be expelled from the party.
- 22:59Speaker 2: Let me not forget who in charge.
- 23:00Speaker 2: Let me not forget who the boss.
- 23:01Speaker 2: The boss shall remain the boss, right, let me not play games here.
- 23:04Speaker 2: So the thing is this right, my thing about it is you hear these things about under the whip and voting with the party and thing as if it's the cardinal sin to vote against the party.
- 23:14Speaker 2: And well, unc, apparently I wasn't trying in the constitution that if you vote against the party we send in your home, right, you're going out of the party, you're no longer a part of the unc.
- 23:24Speaker 2: Uh, I guess because of our political system, that might be a little bit normal or understandable.
- 23:33Speaker 2: Like you could, you could see why people would think that way and do that.
- 23:38Speaker 2: My issue and the reason I I I chose to talk about this now has to do more with, not general elections or local government elections, but party elections.
- 23:49Speaker 2: Right, we have a system where when you're going power here, you're the lord, you're in charge, they have nothing nobody could do.
- 23:56Speaker 2: And if you get a special majority, well, you're worse.
- 23:58Speaker 2: Again, you're the king.
- 23:59Speaker 2: King of king and lord of lords.
- 24:01Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 24:01Speaker 2: Risen and resurrected, and so on, like Easter weekend, king of king and lord of lords.
- 24:06Speaker 2: You know what I mean Risen and resurrected, and so on, like Easter weekend.
- 24:12Speaker 2: So we should pay particular attention to how internal party elections run for all the major political parties that want to put themselves up for Trinidad, because you can't do anything about it after you vote them in a general election, or you vote them in a local government election, because at that point in time, them appointing president, they appointing all the senators, or the majority of senators in case of the people who win the election, and so on.
- 24:32Speaker 2: When the opposition, you appointing a minority amongst the senators.
- 24:36Speaker 2: So this is who going to constitute the government.
- 24:39Speaker 2: Right when there's PNM, unc, it's still a PDP.
- 24:43Speaker 2: What Fowley party name he take PDP or he get a new name.
- 24:47Speaker 2: What Phillip name?
- 24:49Speaker 2: What's Phillip?
- 24:51Speaker 2: And them name NTA.
- 24:52Speaker 2: What's Gary name?
- 24:54Speaker 2: Whatever them parties is?
- 24:57Speaker 2: Because those are major political parties, right?
- 24:59Speaker 2: Some more major than others.
- 25:00Speaker 2: Right, we should pay particular attention to this, because statements like these in terms of what happened in parliament and voting and voting along party lines is one thing, but when you're inside the party, this is a bigger statement for what happened in the, in the, in the party elections, than it is for the general elections for me or for anything that happened in the parliament.
- 25:20Speaker 2: This says that if you run against me or you go against me in our political elections for the party, you you go on.
- 25:29Speaker 2: Imagine you are appointed, you win your seat, which means you're loved by your party already, right, you win your seat and you bring you help to bring us in power, and then they're telling you they're holding this over your head to say you have to vote at party lines or the constitution, so you said we'll throw you out of the party.
- 25:45Speaker 2: I want you to think about what the measures would be like if you go against the leader or the popular sector or sect of our political parties.
- 25:55Speaker 2: Let me say, is he pnm and rowley and them is the boss, right, rowley and them in charge right now.
- 25:59Speaker 2: If you were to rise up against rowley in any way internally, we might never have heard your name at least we know rushton parry name because he's a man, the way he had to do and when he seat and he been around for a long time in the politics and so on.
- 26:13Speaker 2: But think of how much careers these people kill of young, um aspiring people who come in there to do the right thing and come to make the party and bring innovation and new ideas and new ways of doing things and to see a better trinidad and tobago.
- 26:28Speaker 2: If this is how they run and this is the kind of statement, these are the kind of statements they make publicly imagine what kind of politics can happen behind the scenes when you try to to run against them.
- 26:38Speaker 2: Remember rowley versus manning or kamla versus munilal.
- 26:43Speaker 2: Well, gary and them party have enough people for nobody to run against them.
- 26:47Speaker 2: It's them alone, right?
- 26:47Speaker 2: It's them and their madam philip alexander party.
- 26:50Speaker 2: It's just them and their madam.
- 26:52Speaker 2: So it's a nobody to run against them, but it's something to pay attention to, right?
- 26:55Speaker 2: Just observe when you're hearing statements like these about voting in the party and being under the whip and so on, which I have a challenge with that already.
- 27:04Speaker 2: But I just, I just wait to spare thought for how the internal elections go, and the internal elections is what's going to determine the ones who you know and you can vote for at the polls at some point in time.
- 27:14Speaker 2: Just food for thought, right.
- 27:15Speaker 2: But as you're talking food, let me get back to easter food now.
- 27:17Speaker 2: I see an article here saying chef defends 220 dollars a dozen price of hot cross buns in the country where people like to say they have no money.
- 27:30Speaker 2: People like to say they have no money and nothing and money, 220 dollars for a dozen hot cross buns.
- 27:38Speaker 2: And and this make an article in the papers.
- 27:41Speaker 2: Imagine that the papers had to go to them.
- 27:43Speaker 2: So for those of you who might know Pesh Patisserie, it used to be Pesh Restaurant.
- 27:48Speaker 2: I mean, when I was introduced to it it was Pesh Restaurant.
- 27:50Speaker 2: They had a full restaurant you could go and dine in, and so it was pretty decent, it was all right, and I had a bakery on one side.
- 28:01Speaker 2: I think it was a bakery slash restaurant.
- 28:02Speaker 2: Now they closed down the restaurant side and all they do is a bakery, so you might know their name from the masses and price smarts and so on, and I want to say super farm and some of these other outlets, extra foods, that carry pesh bread.
- 28:17Speaker 2: So you'll see when you have the wherever raxia, kiss bread, kisses, king, right, kiss, kiss, running trinidad when it comes to bread.
- 28:20Speaker 2: So you'll see when you have the wherever racks here, kiss, bread, kiss is king, right, kiss, kiss, running through and die when it comes to bread.
- 28:22Speaker 2: But you will also see some what is called artisan breads.
- 28:25Speaker 2: You guys know what it's called.
- 28:26Speaker 2: You'll see some what is called these fancy bread, now Some brioche buns and so on, and some, some, some I don't even know sliced bread, I don't even know butter bread, but you will see the fancy bread on them, right, and a little plastic bag with a white label that is usually peshing those big groceries, right.
- 28:44Speaker 2: So I am assuming the price point will be higher if it's an artisan bread.
- 28:50Speaker 2: I think most people who are looking for a cheaper bread probably not even looking at that rack you might not even notice it was there, if you're not into bread and that kind of thing.
- 28:59Speaker 2: But uh, I kind of like bread a lot.
- 29:02Speaker 2: So I I know them.
- 29:02Speaker 2: I know their quality too.
- 29:03Speaker 2: Their quality is pretty good, especially with the baked stuff and so on.
- 29:07Speaker 2: So I remember one year when they came and they say they say what going on?
- 29:10Speaker 2: We have some specialty hot cross buns here and I I was a little fed up of hot cross buns for a while.
- 29:18Speaker 2: Right, right, I like.
- 29:18Speaker 2: I think I like the tradition more than the buns.
- 29:21Speaker 2: So we always end up with hot cross buns here and nobody will eat them.
- 29:24Speaker 2: I might eat one the day and I can tell you it has some things that I get rid of.
- 29:28Speaker 2: You know, like Christmas time Me making those sort of ham and sorrel and pastel and thing.
- 29:33Speaker 2: Again, I used to be fed up of them, things real quick.
- 29:35Speaker 2: And the hot cross bun is the same thing.
- 29:36Speaker 2: I just like to know that it have hot cross bun.
- 29:38Speaker 2: If you, if you just get two, three, we should be all right.
- 29:41Speaker 2: I don't know why I have dozens of hot cross buns for, but when I see these people making fancy buns I say well, all right, I will give it a try and I'll tell you that that hot cross bun is a panettone panettone how I say panettone or a song to the fancy people a panettone hot cross bun and it is the best hot cross bun I ever had in my long-legged life.
- 30:00Speaker 2: The thing good for real.
- 30:03Speaker 2: It's way better.
- 30:06Speaker 2: Because there was one point in time and I don't want to compare it to the buns you're seeing around now, right?
- 30:12Speaker 2: I'm just saying there's a lot of bun talk, ronnie Stardust with all that sort of bumsy talk.
- 30:16Speaker 2: In the beginning there was a lot of buns, but at a point in time they was just putting a cross on a regular bun.
- 30:26Speaker 2: They want to be a hops and all.
- 30:26Speaker 2: They will put a cross on and they call it that hot cross buns, right?
- 30:28Speaker 2: So I kind of get fed up of it and I say, well, all right, let me see what these people have to offer.
- 30:31Speaker 2: Let me go a little high end with this thing, and it was.
- 30:33Speaker 2: I will say it was worth it.
- 30:34Speaker 2: It was way better than the average bun.
- 30:36Speaker 2: It was real soft, plenty of fruits in it.
- 30:39Speaker 2: I don't know what panettone bread is, but I guess I find it out there.
- 30:42Speaker 2: So anyway, this thing make article in the papers now, because this was several years ago.
- 30:47Speaker 2: I started buying this from them and to me it worth it.
- 30:50Speaker 2: It worth the try If it worth 220,?
- 30:52Speaker 2: I ain't sure, but let me read from here.
- 30:54Speaker 2: Hot cross buns have become a notable part of the menu for Easter weekend, but how much will you be willing to fork out for the traditional treat?
- 31:00Speaker 2: Well, pech Patisserie has been offering a limited amount of their unique take on buns, the Panettone Hot Cross Bun.
- 31:06Speaker 2: The patisserie's chef, kali Lali, shared an interview with Express Business that the bakery has been offering these buns for the past 10 years.
- 31:16Speaker 2: However, they are now facing backlash on social media over the cost of the buns, which is 220 a dozen.
- 31:21Speaker 2: This is not the first time they're facing backlash on social media either, because I seem to remember there was one year when they had posted it on their page and stuff and it was expensive then too, but it was.
- 31:32Speaker 2: It also is look dark.
- 31:34Speaker 2: It's look much more black than you like.
- 31:36Speaker 2: The podcast buns is, you know, a lemon bun.
- 31:38Speaker 2: It have a lemon color.
- 31:39Speaker 2: This was dark like black.
- 31:40Speaker 2: So people are saying wait now.
- 31:41Speaker 2: All them said a burner buns you're selling for that sort of money.
- 31:44Speaker 2: So that he accustomed to social media.
- 31:46Speaker 2: And I would also say that let me talk about my experience in the restaurant.
- 31:50Speaker 2: When you go there, the people at pesh patisserie particularly, there was one older jamaican waitress who I wish I knew her name.
- 31:57Speaker 2: She's one of the best, uh, like you see, wait staff and servers and I've never seen anything like her.
- 32:03Speaker 2: She was so welcoming to us as a family, so engaging with Zachary and saying you know, you're carrying them, little trainer, that's what a fancy place.
- 32:10Speaker 2: It done hard to manage them time already but she used to make the experience amazing.
- 32:15Speaker 2: Same with Khalil Ali.
- 32:16Speaker 2: He would come out.
- 32:17Speaker 2: I remember a time he he came and, uh, he carried Zachary into the back by the he's called the chef by the kitchen.
- 32:24Speaker 2: He carried him back by the kitchen and stuff.
- 32:26Speaker 2: And you know they have a very family and welcoming and warm environment and very, very nice, genuinely nice people.
- 32:33Speaker 2: Right, there was another time I asked for hot chocolate and the hot chocolate was so good, like zachary was like.
- 32:39Speaker 2: So I, when I saw him passing, I asked him.
- 32:42Speaker 2: I said listen, that hot chocolate you make there, what do you use to make that?
- 32:46Speaker 2: Because this boy loved this thing.
- 32:47Speaker 2: If I could get some of that, that would be great.
- 32:49Speaker 2: I'll carry that, I'll start buying it home.
- 32:52Speaker 2: And it turns out that it was actual chocolate that he melts and make hot chocolate for him.
- 32:57Speaker 2: It wasn't even on the menu.
- 32:58Speaker 2: So that's the kind of people there.
- 32:59Speaker 2: But I will say that this same chef, cali lally or whoever running their facebook, have serious issues.
- 33:05Speaker 2: They need to find somebody who's a social media manager who could temper their responses to people online, because there are some people online who just gonna say, boy, this thing burn up and the thing.
- 33:15Speaker 2: But that might never be the people who would buy 220 hot cross buns and it also does not.
- 33:22Speaker 2: Their comments don't affect people like me who might have buy the 220 hot cross, but I don't care what nobody say.
- 33:28Speaker 2: I know the quality, anything and I know it good.
- 33:30Speaker 2: I I mean, I know if you're selling it at two, something for the same burn, and even the person who making that might be making joke and themselves might show up by you and buy a thing, so it's not necessary.
- 33:40Speaker 2: So they have a very um aggressive way of responding to any commentary about their brand, any commentary about the restaurant.
- 33:48Speaker 2: They have a very aggressive way of responding to that.
- 33:51Speaker 2: I ever tell any time somebody from pesh patisserie or somebody was associated with the ownership, message me to tell me what something I say about pesh.
- 33:59Speaker 2: I respond to something that was happening there and I did say everything I say.
- 34:03Speaker 2: Now I say they're nice people and stuff, but xyz, I didn't like.
- 34:07Speaker 2: And this message me to tell me what.
- 34:08Speaker 2: I should take that down because it's disparaging and you know me, me, one of me, one of battle, so I take it down, I take it on one time anyway.
- 34:15Speaker 2: Yeah, so the the response is a little zesty online, but nice people in.
- 34:18Speaker 2: But he went on here to say, or the article went on to say Ali defended the price, explaining that labor and time factor is part of the determination of the price.
- 34:29Speaker 2: I know people have a problem with the price, but it's a very labor-intensive product.
- 34:33Speaker 2: It takes a lot of skills and a lot of time to make that type of Italian celebration bread.
- 34:37Speaker 2: Ali explained that macerating the fruits in various types of alcohol for the buns, along with genuine vanilla beans and the zest of between 400 and 500 citrus fruits, should also be taken into consideration when assessing the quality.
- 34:51Speaker 2: Listen, I want to save you some time here, ali.
- 34:54Speaker 2: Nobody, though, assess none of them.
- 34:55Speaker 2: Let me tell you something about consumers, right?
- 34:57Speaker 2: Consumers are not experts.
- 34:58Speaker 2: It's something that we must always remember in business.
- 35:02Speaker 2: Consumer is not an expert.
- 35:04Speaker 2: You are an expert.
- 35:06Speaker 2: The consumer knows.
- 35:07Speaker 2: Listen, the consumer could only assess and talk about the average consumer.
- 35:11Speaker 2: You're not no connoisseur.
- 35:13Speaker 2: Every time I talk about this in class and I tell people that the average consumer is going to have a hard time telling a carib from a stag if they do blind taste testing and if I pour a stag in a carib bottle.
- 35:24Speaker 2: We, we, we are a lot worse at these things than we, and there are several examples in the literature that show this over time.
- 35:31Speaker 2: Right, we're not very good at, we're not as good at these things as we think, unless you're experts in it, right?
- 35:37Speaker 2: So the consumer is making an assessment of value based on two things.
- 35:42Speaker 2: Basically, what is the range of things they can buy and afford?
- 35:45Speaker 2: So they're comparing you to the lenders and all of them.
- 35:48Speaker 2: Right, which is an unfair comparison as an expert but you understand that as a consumer is a very fair comparison.
- 35:55Speaker 2: I understand that.
- 35:56Speaker 2: The price of a hot cross bun how much for a cross bun by by Linders?
- 35:59Speaker 2: Maybe $6, $8, $10, how much it might be, I don't know.
- 36:02Speaker 2: But if that is the price of a hot cross bun, that is what they're comparing it to and trying to assess value.
- 36:07Speaker 2: The other way people assess value is in relation to their own income.
- 36:10Speaker 2: So if I work for $220 a fortnight, I don't want no partner, no hot cross, but not costing 220 dollars a dozen, right.
- 36:21Speaker 2: So you can't expect the consumer to behave like an expert.
- 36:25Speaker 2: The consumer gonna be a consumer and unfortunately or fortunately in today's world consumers have direct access to business people.
- 36:32Speaker 2: They never had that before.
- 36:34Speaker 2: Consumers before could write a letter right to go and put in the opinion part of the express or the guardian or the news day or whatever they had.
- 36:39Speaker 2: Or they could write a letter right to go and put in the opinion part of the express or the guardian or the news day or whatever they had.
- 36:42Speaker 2: Or they could write a letter to the company complaining about it, which means that by the time I get a letter it's still done.
- 36:50Speaker 2: Nobody don't care.
- 36:52Speaker 2: But in today's world everything is reacted to immediately and then you see the reactions and I suspect he I don't know if he's tried to respond to these things for himself, but he shouldn't do that because I understand that.
- 37:04Speaker 2: So when you I mean you're building a business, you're passionate about it, you know what you're talking about.
- 37:08Speaker 2: You're not asking people whether this thing should cost 220 or not.
- 37:12Speaker 2: You're telling them it have a reason it costing 220.
- 37:15Speaker 2: I telling you as a consumer who buy it before you, have a reason, a reason why it costs $220.
- 37:19Speaker 2: It is a big difference.
- 37:20Speaker 2: It is not the average hot cross bun and this is how the consumer will assess you as well.
- 37:24Speaker 2: If the average dozen hot cross buns is costing $85 and yours is costing $220, people already have some expectation of some greater level of quality.
- 37:33Speaker 2: And if that is what you want, to sell them on a greater level of quality or artisan bun or something, you could find copywriters and marketing or use chat, gpt and come up with ways to tell people what make this thing even better.
- 37:46Speaker 2: But you see that talk.
- 37:47Speaker 2: You talk more macerating fruits and various type of alcohol, five or four to five hundred.
- 37:50Speaker 2: You're wasting time.
- 37:52Speaker 2: The people who will most likely to buy this from you don't need that explanation.
- 37:57Speaker 2: A matter of fact, I am not the average person who gonna buy this from me either, because I might have buy it a couple years straight and then I realize I was wasting hot cross buns and them.
- 38:06Speaker 2: So I don't know if I don't know if it was 220 when I, because I've seen in the article here it says as well he added that over the last 10 years the price of the buns has increased from 160 to 220, with the bakery absorbing the excess to continue offering the sought-after treats.
- 38:21Speaker 2: So yeah, I it's hard to get.
- 38:22Speaker 2: One year I ordered too late, I nearly didn't get there to call when somebody canceled the order and I get them, and so on.
- 38:28Speaker 2: But I say I say a few things here.
- 38:30Speaker 2: Number one try the thing at 220.
- 38:33Speaker 2: You know I mean, where's that 220?
- 38:35Speaker 2: All you haven't tried it really.
- 38:36Speaker 2: It really very, very good.
- 38:39Speaker 2: But on top of that, I don't understand why, as a business owner, you would be responding to the average person like that.
- 38:46Speaker 2: Even in the comments I see another fellow say this is why I keep my artisan bakery to select people, select customers, because the doubles and the provision people wouldn't be happy about it.
- 38:58Speaker 2: I'm saying, brother, you didn't see what happened to the company who talked about doubles people?
- 39:00Speaker 2: The provision people wouldn't be happy by this.
- 39:00Speaker 2: And I'm saying, brother, you didn't see what happened to the company who talked about doubles people the other day?
- 39:03Speaker 2: Why would you say this?
- 39:04Speaker 2: You can't find a way to say a thing without insult and why people have to be provision people and doubles people and who is provision people and doubles people.
- 39:12Speaker 2: The same people who you want to buy your 220 bonds probably eat provision and dumpling and saltfish and good friday, because that's part of our culture and that's who we are.
- 39:20Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 39:21Speaker 2: So salute to Pesh Patisserie and all them.
- 39:26Speaker 2: But Good Friday came, I ate my hot crust buns and my soul fish.
- 39:30Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 39:31Speaker 2: I ate some of those things.
- 39:34Speaker 2: You know what I mean, as is tradition.
- 39:35Speaker 2: And again, like I said, we partake in each other's festivals.
- 39:41Speaker 2: It's not like, if you know, as a marketer, when you're doing a thing called segmentation right, it's dividing marketing to smaller groups who think alike, right.
- 39:50Speaker 2: If you're segmenting Trinidad and Tobago market, you might think, okay, if I come in to sell hot cross buns, which is a good Friday or Easter thing, I want to only sell that to people who are christian, or christianity and catholicism and all those types of things.
- 40:04Speaker 2: So I'll say, listen, all right, well, they have about 600 000 catholic in the country.
- 40:08Speaker 2: I will focus on them.
- 40:09Speaker 2: But if you do that in this country, you're wrong.
- 40:11Speaker 2: If you do that in this country, you're wrong because the reality is that way more people than just christians or or Catholics would buy hot cross buns as part of this.
- 40:22Speaker 2: Again, it shows you how special the country is If you know what the cross signifies and what Good Friday signifies and so on.
- 40:29Speaker 2: And we just eat any hot cross buns because it's almost not to do with religion and it's more that it's Trinidad and Tobago culture.
- 40:39Speaker 6: The journal is more that is Trinidad and Tobago culture and many many more people partake in it than just people who you might see as Christian or Hindu or whatsoever.
- 41:09Speaker 6: It is Because, as I say, right the day after the Good Friday, after you eat your hot cross bun and thing is Shouter Baptist Liberation Day, I told her, madam, I cannot go, I don't sign up to sing calypso.
- 41:18Speaker 6: She said you have to go straight to the happy land which park.
- 41:21Speaker 6: Happy land of Canaan, where all this milk and honey is slow all the time.
- 41:25Speaker 6: Happy land of Canaan, let me go.
- 41:27Speaker 6: Cycling, let me go.
- 41:28Speaker 6: Hey hi, happy land of Canaan, let me go, let me go, let me go, let me go.
- 41:32Speaker 6: Hey hi, happy land of.
- 41:33Speaker 1: Canaan.
- 41:43Speaker 6: She help me by me collar.
- 41:44Speaker 6: While the Lord start the ball for border, he call park right in this station.
- 41:47Speaker 6: Say there you go, don't do him like a dog.
- 41:49Speaker 6: I escape from torture.
- 41:51Speaker 6: If you see me like a love stand shallow water she said if you try to escape for true man, I make body music with you Is why you have to go straight to the happy land.
- 41:59Speaker 6: Which part Happy land of Canaan when all these American honeyd, the happy land, which part Happy land of Canaan when all these American honeydews are all the time?
- 42:03Speaker 6: Happy land of Canaan.
- 42:04Speaker 6: I want to go with me, saifi, you have to go with me.
- 42:06Speaker 6: Happy land of Canaan.
- 42:08Speaker 6: Straight to the happy land, I want to go.
- 42:10Speaker 6: Happy land of Canaan that part.
- 42:32Speaker 6: When I read the question, I'm going to sing it.
- 42:34Speaker 6: You have to go straight to the happy lad.
- 42:36Speaker 6: Who's bad?
- 42:37Speaker 1: boy.
- 42:37Speaker 6: Happy lad, okay now.
- 42:39Speaker 6: Hey, all this milk and honey brewing all the time.
- 42:40Speaker 6: Happy lad, okay now.
- 42:42Speaker 2: The voice of the great, mighty cypher.
- 42:44Speaker 2: There's some more cypher to hear, you know.
- 42:48Speaker 2: But If you get Baptist Liberation, you can't sing about Baptist woman alone.
- 42:52Speaker 2: You have to sing about the Baptist man too.
- 42:53Speaker 5: unless you hear this and now, ladies and gentlemen, happy am I to present to you the Lord Melody, who made Mama look a boo-boo there.
- 43:05Speaker 2: Creature from Black Lagoon, etc.
- 43:06Speaker 2: Etc.
- 43:06Speaker 2: He's coming to tell you about the preacher and the bake.
- 43:31Speaker 3: Well, a Baptist preacher living peacefully With four little children in La Vente.
- 43:36Speaker 3: A Baptist test living peacefully With four little children in La Vente.
- 43:38Speaker 3: A Baptist test livin' peacefully with four Little children in La Vente.
- 43:41Speaker 3: His work was sellin' sweepstakes.
- 43:44Speaker 3: So one evening he rose up, some bake Went to sleep and get up, a bake missin'.
- 43:48Speaker 3: So he wake up the children and started askin'.
- 43:51Speaker 3: He shout out Jonah, yes, what you take a bake here?
- 43:58Speaker 3: No, bob bomb, one gun, one gun.
- 44:06Speaker 3: Well, the power fly up in the old man's head.
- 44:09Speaker 3: He raffled a belt and nearly killed the poor children dead with whap, whap, whap, whap, whap, whap, whap, whap, wap, wap, wap.
- 44:16Speaker 3: Well, we are living next door while I'm trembling.
- 44:29Speaker 3: So I rush to the partition and start knocking.
- 44:32Speaker 3: Good Lord, neighbor Wimberley, I beg you to have mercy.
- 44:37Speaker 3: That couldn't alter the situation With the ignorant man.
- 44:41Speaker 3: He beat the children as if he was beating a snake, just because he was short of a Johnny Bake.
- 44:46Speaker 3: He shout out Friday, yes, sir, you dig a bake here.
- 44:53Speaker 3: No, sir, one gone, one gone.
- 45:01Speaker 3: Well, the power fly up in the old man's head.
- 45:03Speaker 3: He wrapped a belt and nearly killed the poor children.
- 45:06Speaker 3: Then went whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop.
- 45:21Speaker 3: Well, I decided finally to go over and investigate the matter.
- 45:26Speaker 3: In the power.
- 45:27Speaker 3: He made some explanation, in truth, and in fact I couldn't understand.
- 45:30Speaker 3: He said well, I'm tired with this boy, jonah, I'm like always talking in vain.
- 45:38Speaker 3: But believe me, neighbor, I ain't talking again.
- 45:42Speaker 3: Jonah, you take a break here.
- 45:49Speaker 3: One gone, one gone, one gone, one gone.
- 45:56Speaker 3: Voice of the great Lord Melody.
- 45:59Speaker 2: One, one go.
- 46:02Speaker 4: Voice of the great Lord Melody and it couldn't be no Baptist liberation day without this man right, listening to a prayer, meeting Baptist people preaching With a leader in front, happy people shaking.
- 46:31Speaker 4: So I tell my partner, while we get closer, because I tell myself I'm hearing in Soka, though it was something to be spiritual, ah, ha, ha.
- 46:44Speaker 4: To me it was more like bacana.
- 46:47Speaker 4: Oh, no, yes, but they can sing.
- 46:50Speaker 4: Some children outside time, if you see Baptists, oh man whine.
- 46:55Speaker 4: But I'm singing Whoa, whoa, whoa, like Soka Baptists, like Soka Baptists.
- 47:12Speaker 4: I'm singing.
- 47:18Speaker 4: Just then a power take me, cause me to go crazy.
- 47:33Speaker 4: So they embrace my arms and start to spin me, but I create a problem.
- 47:39Speaker 4: I start to fight with them, though the spirit in me they are no more See, when they see I really give them trouble.
- 47:49Speaker 4: Ah, ah, ah.
- 47:50Speaker 4: The preacher laid hands on his Bible.
- 47:53Speaker 4: Oh Lord, yeah, for chapter 2, page 4, psalm 166, which was so carambathistic.
- 48:00Speaker 4: Oh Lord, singing For chapter 2, page 1, psalm 166, which was Socorro and Baptist mix, hold on singing Whoa, whoa, whoa, like Socorro Baptist, like Socorro Baptist, like Socorro Baptist.
- 48:10Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, whoa, like Socorro Baptist, like Socorro Baptist.
- 48:16Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, whoa, hey, hey, oh, hey, hey, hey, ah, ah, hey, oh, oh, hey, hey, hey, ah, ah, hey, hey, oh.
- 48:36Speaker 4: While dancing in the sun, the preacher held my arm.
- 48:39Speaker 4: Two bumps on my shoulder made me feel better.
- 48:43Speaker 4: Then he said to me, son, come forward and kneel down.
- 48:47Speaker 4: But whilst approaching him he stopped all singing.
- 48:51Speaker 4: For then everything was going well, ah ah, ah, until he might start to ring a bell.
- 48:59Speaker 4: Oh no, I started falling, but he didn't give a damn.
- 49:04Speaker 4: So he make them sing Baptist song.
- 49:06Speaker 4: Oh, they're singing.
- 49:08Speaker 4: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
- 49:10Speaker 4: Like soca Baptist, like soca Baptist, like soca Baptist.
- 49:16Speaker 4: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
- 49:18Speaker 4: Like soca Baptist, like soca Baptist, oh, like Soca Baptist, like Soca Baptist.
- 49:22Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, hey, yeah, uh-huh, yeah, whoa, yeah, whoa, like Soca.
- 49:36Speaker 2: Baptist, like Soca Baptist, whoa hey blows for Earl of Judge.
- 49:44Speaker 2: Judge tried commissioner over ful delays.
- 49:46Speaker 2: Right, look at your breaking.
- 49:46Speaker 2: It's simply outrageous that a sitting police commissioner who would elect would elect to adopt a well, I have plenty work to do stance in defense of a seven year delay in granting firearm user licenses to an applicant.
- 49:59Speaker 2: So if you're following this story, again, erla on a very religious weekend and spiritual weekend, right, erla, they should name this whole weekend after Erla, because she's the most spiritual person.
- 50:11Speaker 2: She's dependent on higher powers almost solely to do her job at this point in time.
- 50:16Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 50:17Speaker 2: It's heavy prayers.
- 50:18Speaker 2: I'm sure Erlama is here missing nothing.
- 50:20Speaker 2: She is missing her pagwa.
- 50:21Speaker 2: She is missing nothing this weekend.
- 50:22Speaker 2: She gets every blessing it has to get for the crime situation here, right.
- 50:25Speaker 2: So one of the things that she again blows forward to is that the FUL situation is not clear.
- 50:31Speaker 2: In Trinidad and Tobago Something that I keep coming back up to there's an application process that is, to me, deliberately mired in all kinds of issues with who could get it and who can't get it, and where the application have to go and track.
- 50:45Speaker 2: Any application is impossible to get.
- 50:46Speaker 2: So this is one of the, the biggest bargaining chips they have in the mix, uh, of the who is who in trinidad and tobago, because it's as everything else in trinidad, tobago is our friends and family kind of situation when it comes to granting FUL licenses.
- 51:02Speaker 2: And it's a bargaining chip for those who have power, who have some kind of say, whether the power comes from legitimate sources or not.
- 51:13Speaker 2: It seems as though I, for instance, if I'm in a police station and I a constable, I don't have no power necessarily over the, the application process, but if I could make the application sit down in my on my desk for long and I could at least do that, then there's something in it for me.
- 51:31Speaker 2: I could put it like that, because once you, once you're able to do that, there are people in trent and zabego culturally, people just rather grease the wheel, you know, know what I mean Say, hey, what's going on?
- 51:40Speaker 2: Let me just get along with this and make this happen so that I could get my weapon and everybody in my family safe and that's the end of that.
- 51:49Speaker 2: It don't seem as though it don't seem as though we interested in streamlining and making processes more efficient.
- 51:58Speaker 2: It seemed as though they're inefficient for a purpose and this is where she gained somebody.
- 52:01Speaker 2: Take her to court.
- 52:02Speaker 2: And when they say take her to court, it's basically taking the state to court.
- 52:06Speaker 2: Right to say that, well, I apply for ful and I can't get a yes or no and it's taking seven years to get.
- 52:11Speaker 2: It's ridiculous, for any application process for anything shouldn't take seven years, right, they say.
- 52:15Speaker 2: Furthermore, aspirants of high office should not allow it to lure to distract them from the onerous obligations that such offices impose.
- 52:23Speaker 2: And this is, judge, responding to her, her being quoted as saying there's a lot on her plate, right, she had plenty things to do instead of it's.
- 52:33Speaker 2: Instead, it is imperative that those aspirants are fit for purpose, equipped and capable of addressing with sound judgment and alacrity the multitude of obligations which the office imposes.
- 52:43Speaker 2: You see, what this magistrate is saying here is absolutely right.
- 52:48Speaker 2: You see, going up for public office or forget public office, going up for very stressful jobs, especially when they have public consequences to those jobs.
- 52:57Speaker 2: I think he's absolutely right that you, you must, you mustn't just study the power that these positions giving you, clearly, these positions in gaining no money, right.
- 53:06Speaker 2: So you mustn't just study the power where these things are it really?
- 53:10Speaker 2: You really had to take into consideration what you willing to give.
- 53:13Speaker 2: It's almost like no matter what you paid in this position or how much power it give you, it can't compensate you for the amount of stress that this could bring.
- 53:23Speaker 2: Justice Frank Sipasad made these statements yesterday in declaring that the Police Commissioner earlier Christopher's failure and continuous delay in deciding whether to grant or deny an FUL application by a Tobago business owner was unreasonable and in conflict with the policy settled by section 17 of the firearms act, unlawful and illegal.
- 53:43Speaker 2: The businessman, fion solomon, brought a judicial review claim, having not received the ful close to seven years after he first applied.
- 53:50Speaker 2: One of the arguments advanced by attorneys for the commissioner during the proceedings was the volume of work christopher was required to carry out.
- 53:57Speaker 2: In christopher's affidavit listen anyway.
- 54:01Speaker 2: In christopher's affidavit she stated that it was unfathomable.
- 54:04Speaker 2: Unfathomable to expect that she should spend her days rendering decisions on ful applications, having regard to the plethora of issues which fall under her remit.
- 54:13Speaker 2: This statement is true.
- 54:16Speaker 2: This is a true statement by christopher or her attorneys right.
- 54:22Speaker 2: It is unfathomable that the commissioner of police, with everything else that she had to do in a country that ridden with crime, can spend any amount of days going through ful applications, which numbering in the thousands now and backdated to years.
- 54:34Speaker 2: She had too much other things to do, but the solution to this is to not just don't do it at all, just leave it, and whatever happened with it happened.
- 54:41Speaker 2: The solution to this is to get the resources in place.
- 54:44Speaker 2: Who could do these applications if the commissioner had a sign off on it?
- 54:48Speaker 2: She had a sign off on it.
- 54:49Speaker 2: In the end, if there is a law and that and all could change.
- 54:51Speaker 2: But I can't understand where it seems as though the thing is there's too much to handle.
- 54:56Speaker 2: Yes, so forget that.
- 54:57Speaker 2: If all you need firearms, like, get them illegally or don't get them at all or whatever it is, those issues included the crime rate, gun related violence.
- 55:04Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, all the issues the commissioner dealing with is important, but I don't expect that somebody who is the head of our organization is saying down there sign off on every application that come into the organization.
- 55:15Speaker 2: I was using prestige holdings as an example for the past.
- 55:17Speaker 2: You could imagine christian muti having to go and implement price changes on every cash register.
- 55:22Speaker 2: I mean they meant changing price so often throughout that franchise.
- 55:25Speaker 2: Every time you go by starbucks is a different price.
- 55:27Speaker 2: He can't do that himself, but I think that if that not getting done or something in his organization not getting done, he any any private sector personally.
- 55:37Speaker 2: First thing you'll be looking at is okay, what are the resources that you need to get this thing done?
- 55:41Speaker 2: At least for me, I would love to see people who, in management in particular, look at what is the outcome that they're going after and what resources it will take to get that outcome, and what's the benefit of getting that outcome versus the cost of getting things in place, rather than have somebody who's a manager, who's trying, who's saying they're overwhelmed, can't get nothing done, uh, too much things on the plate, and they're just saying well, check me in about seven years I'll be able to finish this thing.
- 56:09Speaker 2: I'm not sure that that is how it works at all, but in his ruling, justice supersat rejected the argument.
- 56:15Speaker 2: He said the role and functions to be discharged by the holder of this office are clearly defined and settled, and those who aspire to hold the position are deemed to be fully cognizant of said demand.
- 56:24Speaker 2: He went on to add that.
- 56:26Speaker 2: He went on to add that to suggest one core function was more important than the other was a classic cop-out.
- 56:32Speaker 2: I'm not sure that I strived for justice.
- 56:34Speaker 2: I'm sure that a judge, a sitting judge, you fully well know they have some functions or some core functions that way more important than your rest of functions, any they go any little productivity or management course.
- 56:47Speaker 2: They will tell you that that is one of the first things you should do.
- 56:49Speaker 2: You should highlight the value of your time based on the tasks that you have to do in front, and they have some things that require your time and presence and they have some things that do require it and they tell you you had to start to delegate them things.
- 57:02Speaker 2: But I'm not sure that we have a system that allows for delegation.
- 57:06Speaker 2: I'm not sure that we have a system that wants to allow for delegation either.
- 57:10Speaker 2: Because if I had to sign off on every single one and we know that this process is rife with corruption Me and no, who rife it up with corruption?
- 57:19Speaker 2: If it's Gary Griffith, they say when he accused or something and there's some report about he.
- 57:25Speaker 2: But the corruption in here come out long before Gary Griffith was a person in public life and them think that the idea of corruption me and the FUL is a common thing here.
- 57:31Speaker 2: All man who want a weapon know how much you have to pay.
- 57:36Speaker 2: The number is going wrong and the number is changed and you just be talking about this all the time publicly.
- 57:42Speaker 2: So if I know that the the way to get ful is to really collect a piece of money, then I would want to sign off on all because that way whoever collecting the piece of money piece out to come by me.
- 57:54Speaker 2: And if I have thousands of application and let me say I have 5 000 ful application to sign up for I I will enter grant 4 000.
- 58:01Speaker 2: Imagine again 10 000 per application, because it's a good time I said german, hitting me at 10 000 under the desk.
- 58:09Speaker 2: You go and check how much money that will make.
- 58:11Speaker 2: So maybe a design.
- 58:12Speaker 2: So but uh, back to justice super side.
- 58:15Speaker 2: They say incompetence or restricted ability cannot and will not be used by this court as a ground of justification when there's a delay in the discharge of a duty imposed by the statute.
- 58:27Speaker 2: This is a conflicting article for me because I agree with almost everything that's said in the article.
- 58:31Speaker 2: But I agree, but I have something to add to it, because the legal system in this country in other words, forget Earl for a while right, justice Seaperside could have been saying the same exact thing he was saying here about the legal profession in this country.
- 58:48Speaker 2: The role and functions of the strategy holder in this office are clearly defined and settled to those who aspire to the position deemed fully competent to the said demands.
- 58:54Speaker 2: You could say the same thing about judge and magistrate, where case could be pushed back long, long long and it's taking people seven years to get tried.
- 59:02Speaker 2: I tell you I was on jury duty and a man is 15 years here in remand for a statutory rape case.
- 59:08Speaker 2: Incompetence or restricted ability cannot and will not be used by this court as a ground of justification when there's a delay in the discharge of a duty imposed by a statute.
- 59:17Speaker 2: To me he could be talking.
- 59:20Speaker 2: Justice Seaperside could be talking in front of a mirror here, the court further noted that no detailed explanation was advanced so as to justify the need for two investigations the first to determine if a provisional license should be granted and then another to determine if the FUL should be granted.
- 59:36Speaker 2: In the absence of an explanation as to the differences in the criteria, it appears that the process may be duplicitous, again probably by design.
- 59:44Speaker 2: After a thorough background check is engaged, inclusive of a medical and psychological assessment, it would be reasonable and rational to conclude that the provisional license would enable firearm training and the generation of a certificate of competence.
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: If no such certificate is issued, then a ful cannot be given.
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: So I guess the judge, looking at the whole process, I think the process terrible.
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: But I wonder a lot about processes in trinidad and whether they, whether they're terrible by design, I I might.
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: My belief is that these processes not terrible by mistake.
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: We have, and people don't like when I say this too much, but we have some of the best and brightest in this country, right when it comes to looking at, uh, business, yeah, men and men who do spiritual reading and white light healing and talk to the dead and all these kind of things, you know.
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: I mean you have some of the best and brightest people in this country when it comes to leadership and business management and so on.
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: So to me, if you wanted to get some systems fixed in this country, we have the right set of people to sort out them systems right here, if you, if you, if you had the right consultants on.
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: But I mean it goes back to what I was saying about the type of people in the type of jobs and how much you would you want to pay for them kind of positions, because they need to pay for white light and you see white light.
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: White light is a very, very expensive kind of light.
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: So if you want that, you're gonna pay anyway.
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: I'm moving on from that.
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: I know that, that that that is one that, um, I do not expect to see any change in that process or those processes, certainly not for as long as Erla is commissioner.
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: I think Erla's main focus is the prayers and so on.
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: She's looking at the spiritual and you know Kamala did say that the spiritual Baptist might be able to help me to get through that right.
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: So maybe she's going down the right road when I was concerned, but I don't expect to see any kind of any kind of change where that process, or pretty much any other processes, is concerned within the, the ttps.
- 1:01:49Speaker 2: What I do want to talk about, though, is the fact that, after the easter and the good friday, followed by the celebration of the spiritual baptist liberation day, I get to drive back through after church on easter sunday and see park what going on in in in um, in palmist park, and coincidentally, they have a statue of a man in palmist park the way.
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: I want to play a few songs from this man.
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: Now.
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: There's talk, but I talk a lot about the fact that new soca artists or contemporary or whatever today's soca artists take a lot of elements of older soca and play them right, whether it's the whole song, they do over elements of the song, the theme of the song, some beats that they sample, and so on, but I don't think it have anywhere that that happens more than within chutney music.
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: So, in the celebration of pagwa, in celebration of the palmist park and my, my little, my little peep and glimpse into pagwa on sunday, I want to play a few by this man now I'm playing two for you that heavily sampled by today's chutneyney artist right, hold this one first.
- 1:03:02Speaker 8: Ladies and gentlemen, listen attentively To hear how I got a jewel, my darling from Kiaruni.
- 1:03:31Speaker 8: Ladies and gentlemen, listen attentively To hear how I got Duel, my darling From Kiaruni.
- 1:03:39Speaker 8: I went to see family and I saw my Rishi.
- 1:03:44Speaker 8: They drove me out and said I had no dignity.
- 1:03:48Speaker 8: Ladies and gentlemen, Listen attentively To hear how I got Duel, my darling, from Kiaruni.
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: Oh I promise to, we'll be right back.
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: You know the voice of the man, sundar Pupu.
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: And next song I want to play for you here that you wouldn't know and I don't know if you know this version of.
- 1:05:49Speaker 8: Thank you.
- 1:05:50Speaker 8: Tell me, do you know, my airplane, my darling, when we go meet up again.
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: My darling when we go meet up again.
- 1:06:11Speaker 8: Tell me, do you know my airplane?
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: me.
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: I go there.
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: Darling, if you love me, come lie down in my bed.
- 1:06:18Speaker 8: Tell me if you know my eye no plain, my darling.
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: When we go meet up again my darling, when we go meet up again.
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: It's only like we're talking to certain people.
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: Oh, there's another one.
- 1:07:02Speaker 8: I'm good, thank you.
- 1:07:02Speaker 8: I went Sunday Sunday to meet Lagihari.
- 1:07:06Speaker 8: I went Sunday Sunday to meet Lagihari.
- 1:07:44Speaker 8: I pulled up a kudari and a belted hari.
- 1:07:47Speaker 8: Oh Lauri.
- 1:07:48Speaker 2: be not a titty, be a nice lady, oh Lauri be not a titty, be a nice lady voice of the great sundar popo, one of the greatest ever.
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: Do it right.
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: I want to read some for you real quick before I go on to my last tune, dedicated to the pagwa mongol patisar film premieres at queen's hall.
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: Uh, again, salute to dominic calipas, who always have any information you need about culture in this country.
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: There are two people to turn to michael mondesi salute to him, a legend and dominic kalipasad.
- 1:08:24Speaker 2: Dominic kalipasad in general.
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: Whatever you want to know about here, just scroll through your instagram page and learn some more.
- 1:08:29Speaker 2: Trinidad and tobago.
- 1:08:30Speaker 2: But I saw him posting this on some clips of mangel patisar talking about his uh starting music and where he came from in terms of learning music and so on.
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: This man was talking about practicing 14 hours a day when he, when he, when he uh markham gladwell had something called 10 000 hours, right, you divide 14, like 10 000 over 14, and see how long mastery takes, right, because 14 hours a day is that mean.
- 1:08:58Speaker 2: The only thing you're doing other than sleep is practicing, and look how much years it will take you to reach uh 10 000 hours, even if you do that every day.
- 1:09:06Speaker 2: But the film premiere of iconography mungo patisa will take place at queen's hall in sintans.
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: The film is the second in the series by pomegranate studios and is directed by mikhail gibbons and tanika.
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: Mohamed Gibbons said the film series was a historical and archival one which tells the stories of older Trinbegonians through their own voices rather than through posthumous lookbacks.
- 1:09:27Speaker 2: The first film featured Roy Cape, the main selecting factor with the people.
- 1:09:32Speaker 2: We approach that the material existed because there was widespread access to video archival material.
- 1:09:39Speaker 2: He said the filmmakers would know their names and what they've done to a certain extent musically and creatively, but we don't necessarily know them as people.
- 1:09:46Speaker 2: Mohammed said he felt it was important to talk to patissa because the entire crew involved in the film grew up listening to his music.
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: Uh, he says I'm a musician before anything else and the way I learned to play guitar was sitting in my room listening to Mungal Patisar and playing back his sitar lines on my guitar when I was six or seven.
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: So the fact that I now get to sit in a room in his house and have him tell us his amazing musical stories, it feels like a full circle sort of thing.
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: He said filming was a really special experience where we got to spend some time with this person.
- 1:10:19Speaker 2: Uh, who for us was this unreachable influencing talent we didn't really understand the concept of, because sitar is such an obscure instrument in our current culture and he's someone who drove that instrument when nobody else was even looking, looking out for what a sitar was doing in trinidad and tobago.
- 1:10:38Speaker 2: Gibbons said there wasn't much recorded material about Patisa available to the public, even though he's an inextricable part of Trinidad and Tobago's culture.
- 1:10:46Speaker 2: Everyone knows the name, everyone knows the tunes, dreadlocks when they hear it first, when they hear that first note, but maybe they don't know where he came from.
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: Maybe they don't know where he came from, maybe they don't know where those first few notes started and it feels really nice to get to tell that story for the first time.
- 1:11:05Speaker 2: So these youths and this is why I say like culture in great hands I was talking about this in a little lecture done by a little star broadcasting, by nigel nicholson.
- 1:11:17Speaker 2: I was talking about the fact that you know there's a movement happening within culture where a lot of it you used to see Pan and all these things like Mungil, patisa, the people who study in, that is, older people, people like myself.
- 1:11:29Speaker 2: But when you look at the youths who are doing this film now, you could see that there's a certain level of interest and enthusiasm and passion for the culture and all aspects of the culture that are coming out.
- 1:11:42Speaker 2: That, I think, is commendable and better continue to applaud these youths for running their leg of the race right.
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: But I want more little tune to play, because every time, anytime, I'd have any any kind of festival or anything of indian descent that we had to play in this country must always remember that that is always an opportunity for me to look at the fact that a christian festival almost in trinidad and tobago that will belong to christians alone, a hindu festival will belong to hindus alone, african celebration will belong to african alone.
- 1:12:13Speaker 2: And when you look at again things like nila winning the chutney, the intellectual chutney earlier this year, and things like that, it shows you that we live in a place that's very, very special.
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: But when it's more Indian music in particular, this is a fellow I feel don't get enough credit for the amount of hits he have.
- 1:12:31Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to call it soca chutney or whatsoever you might want to call it, but this man don't get enough credit for it, day in and day out.
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: For years and years, and years and years.
- 1:13:19Speaker 1: I grieved this To taste your sweetness.
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: Oh Rani, for you I'll provide as man Roti, capra, roma, canrani.
- 1:13:30Speaker 1: Oh Rani, spend your devotion, accept your religion.
- 1:13:40Speaker 1: For you I'll do anything.
- 1:13:43Speaker 1: I promise to be your king.
- 1:13:47Speaker 1: I love curry.
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: I love curry.
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: So, betty Giyan, plenty.
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: You look so beautiful, you look so wonderful.
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: I'd like to let you know.
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: I'll never let you go.
- 1:14:09Speaker 1: Oh Rani, oh Rani, I want to marry Hindustani.
- 1:14:24Speaker 4: Ah, yeah, ah, marry.
- 1:14:25Speaker 2: Hindustani.
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: Oh Rani, I want to marry Hindustani.
- 1:14:32Speaker 2: The Alcindor Smiths' Griffiths bid for St Joseph constituency Right.
- 1:14:39Speaker 2: Last but not least and wait before I go, I really had a salute all the athletes in character, right?
- 1:14:44Speaker 2: Don't remind me to do that before I'm honest, forget him.
- 1:14:46Speaker 2: But the else in dismisses.
- 1:14:48Speaker 2: So gary griffith, say he going up for saint joseph.
- 1:14:50Speaker 2: Gary griffith of the nta is now the first.
- 1:14:53Speaker 2: He's the nta, or that's philip alexander.
- 1:14:55Speaker 2: Whoever gary griffith party name is, he's the first candidate to be announced for the 2025 election and for that he have my vote.
- 1:15:04Speaker 2: I'm not voting in tennessee, but if I was voting in tennessee, if I was voting for gary griffith because he actively proactive, you know.
- 1:15:09Speaker 2: I mean come on first.
- 1:15:10Speaker 2: So the elson dismisses griffith's bid for st joseph constituency.
- 1:15:13Speaker 2: St joseph mp turns.
- 1:15:15Speaker 2: The elson is unfazed by reports of Gary Griffin wanting to contest the next seat in the general election or his seat.
- 1:15:21Speaker 2: In response to the reports D'Alting quoted from the classic breakup to makeup by the stylistics, he also burst into singing a few lines Breakup to makeup, that's all we do.
- 1:15:32Speaker 2: First you love me, then you hate me.
- 1:15:33Speaker 2: This is a game for fools, said D'Alting.
- 1:15:35Speaker 2: This is a game for fools, said the Alting.
- 1:15:37Speaker 2: On Monday the Alting, who was also the Health Minister, made the comments at the handover ceremony of an autoclave unit in San Fernando General Hospital.
- 1:15:45Speaker 2: A reporter asked him for a response about Griffith's report of going up for St Joseph's Seat.
- 1:15:50Speaker 2: No election date has been announced but the general election is constitutionally due in 2025.
- 1:15:55Speaker 2: I think late 2025 is when we will see it.
- 1:15:59Speaker 2: But the Alton Quotas are saying here they are taking the people of St Joseph for fools and we're not going to be fooled by the shenanigans of Gary Griffith and Kamala Passad Bisesa.
- 1:16:11Speaker 2: Griffith is the leader of National Transformation Alliance and the former police commissioner.
- 1:16:15Speaker 2: He was national security minister under the People's Partnership Administration led by Kamala Passad Bisesa.
- 1:16:20Speaker 2: But the man say well, you're not going to take the people of St Joseph for fools.
- 1:16:24Speaker 2: I like how politicians are talking about it because to me all politicians take all people of everywhere for fools.
- 1:16:30Speaker 2: But he say the people of St Joseph will not be taken for fools.
- 1:16:34Speaker 2: I'm not sure exactly how he come up with the idea of kamala passad be sessa and gary griffith, because I'm pretty sure gary griffith did say that he is running for saint joseph on the nta.
- 1:16:47Speaker 2: He didn't say nothing about unc, right, he didn't say anything about unc, but I suppose taryn zielting might know something that we don't know Because he just played down to hey, he's a waste of time.
- 1:17:01Speaker 2: Guy Griffith and Kamlo Passat be, says I think he learned it be known that they're probably going to team up in the end.
- 1:17:10Speaker 2: But in the spirit of not taking St Joseph people for fool with everything else that happened this weekend, you know, monday is all fools day on top of the Easter.
- 1:17:18Speaker 2: Monday is all fools day on top of the Easter.
- 1:17:20Speaker 2: Monday is All Fools Day, which shouldn't be a public holiday in Trinidad and Tobago.
- 1:17:23Speaker 2: So I took to leave you here with a two All Fools Day song.
- 1:17:25Speaker 2: Remember I told you about Cypher.
- 1:17:26Speaker 2: He sang about the Baptist woman earlier.
- 1:17:28Speaker 2: I want to get you with Cypher from All Fools Day.
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: I'm sure plenty of people don't know the holidays for Trinidad and Tobago.
- 1:18:02Speaker 6: I'm sure that plenty people don't know the two holidays for Trinidad and Tobago.
- 1:18:08Speaker 6: We are all cosmopolitan.
- 1:18:11Speaker 6: If a man asks a favor you can say wrong, we have some people try and get you.
- 1:18:16Speaker 6: Well, I decide to do the same thing too.
- 1:18:19Speaker 6: Yeah, what happened?
- 1:18:20Speaker 6: The Hindus got a holiday, for the Wali Government passed that already.
- 1:18:25Speaker 6: The Muslims also get one for Eid and Sa'iqa glad they succeeded.
- 1:18:32Speaker 6: The Chinese already have Eid-e-Day.
- 1:18:35Speaker 6: Well, here what I have to say I'm begging government to see what they can do.
- 1:18:42Speaker 6: Chimpa, chimpa.
- 1:18:59Speaker 1: Chimpa, chimpa.
- 1:19:10Speaker 6: Diwali.
- 1:19:11Speaker 6: To people who don't know Illumination in English, I must tell you so.
- 1:19:15Speaker 6: And the one you hear the Muslim calling Eid is a day of sacrifice with plenty feed A way back in India.
- 1:19:24Speaker 6: You can never bet those two names you hear I call is about the biggest threat.
- 1:19:28Speaker 6: Just because the Hindu got a holiday for the Wali government, pass that already.
- 1:19:33Speaker 6: The Muslim also get one for eating.
- 1:19:44Speaker 6: Cypher class.
- 1:19:45Speaker 6: They succeed.
- 1:19:47Speaker 6: The Chinese already have BJD.
- 1:19:49Speaker 6: Well, hear what I have to say.
- 1:19:52Speaker 6: Lord, I'm begging government, please see what you can do.
- 1:19:56Speaker 6: Well, it'll be the week first of April too.
- 1:19:58Speaker 6: Aye, aye, aye, government, they see what you can do when they took a wee bus off April 2.
- 1:20:24Speaker 6: I decided we bound to get a deal, and I care what the public may say.
- 1:20:29Speaker 6: At the time the election was just around.
- 1:20:32Speaker 6: Well, a candidate would promise you the whole atom.
- 1:20:36Speaker 6: I met one, and this ain't no joke.
- 1:20:38Speaker 6: He promised me a day.
- 1:20:40Speaker 6: I gave him my vote After he lose what you think.
- 1:20:44Speaker 6: He say go hurry, man, take only be today.
- 1:20:47Speaker 6: The Muslim also get one for Eid.
- 1:20:49Speaker 6: And Saifah clan.
- 1:20:50Speaker 6: They succeed.
- 1:20:50Speaker 6: Chinese already have Eid.
- 1:21:03Speaker 6: Well, hear what I have to say.
- 1:21:05Speaker 6: And, belgian government, we see what you can do.
- 1:21:09Speaker 6: Well, if we force of April too, Aye, aye, aye Sapher.
- 1:21:23Speaker 2: Voice of the great Cypher.
- 1:21:24Speaker 2: Eh, when it comes to All Fool's Day, you have a Calypso in here.
- 1:21:28Speaker 2: I had to play All Fool's Day song first, but I have a few line-up for you from him, because when it comes to All Fool and fooling people and double entendre and humorous, calypso the best man to ever do it.
- 1:21:53Speaker 9: The mighty spoiler school, but it's now.
- 1:21:54Speaker 9: I realize that I'm still a fool believer never realized this thing until all fools stay on.
- 1:22:01Speaker 9: The first april believer would have killed my wife on the group even if she wasn't telling the spoiler the truth.
- 1:22:07Speaker 9: I never see more believe in my life.
- 1:22:09Speaker 9: I asked what is that?
- 1:22:13Speaker 9: She told wrong?
- 1:22:14Speaker 9: And see, the only fooling you spoiler is old fool's day.
- 1:22:17Speaker 9: Uh-huh, I bother her because I know that me wife never get on so.
- 1:22:21Speaker 9: But me neighbor Lash used to tell me about the man with the big mustache.
- 1:22:38Speaker 9: I catch them kissing.
- 1:22:39Speaker 9: I was telling Clarence but it's all fools day.
- 1:22:41Speaker 9: I must leave her alone once.
- 1:22:43Speaker 9: Clarence watch me, pack me on me back, tell me not to blame.
- 1:22:46Speaker 9: She blame the almanac.
- 1:22:48Speaker 6: I never see more believe in me life, meet a man inside me own house kissing me wife.
- 1:22:53Speaker 9: I ask what is that?
- 1:22:54Speaker 9: She told wrong and say we only fooling you.
- 1:22:56Speaker 9: Boy, life lies all fools day.
- 1:22:58Speaker 9: Aha, what made it take?
- 1:23:10Speaker 9: Worse?
- 1:23:11Speaker 9: The man inside my house.
- 1:23:12Speaker 9: He started to curse.
- 1:23:13Speaker 9: But now Harold is my name and he tell, tell my wife, long time is the name.
- 1:23:18Speaker 9: She fooled me again and she hung up her roll.
- 1:23:21Speaker 9: You know, the man kissed my wife on the eyeball.
- 1:23:24Speaker 9: I bet you a house.
- 1:23:25Speaker 2: I tell her all flat On the second I hear pray you can't do that I never see more believe in my life.
- 1:23:31Speaker 9: Meet a man inside my own house kissing my wife.
- 1:23:34Speaker 9: I ask what is that?
- 1:23:35Speaker 9: She turn wrong and say we only fooling.
- 1:23:42Speaker 1: You spoil life all I ask what is that Cheating wrong and saving only fooling you.
- 1:23:46Speaker 1: Spoiler is all fools there.
- 1:23:55Speaker 9: Aha, some stupid husband would have started to make noise and break the wife's hand.
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: Pardon, they should take it cool gone force of imperial to get full so you can see your wife is dumb because harry on all foods.
- 1:24:03Speaker 9: I beg you to leave she nothing.
- 1:24:05Speaker 9: You could do better in this world than to leave she alone.
- 1:24:08Speaker 9: She rock and roll.
- 1:24:09Speaker 9: I never see more.
- 1:24:11Speaker 9: Believe in my life.
- 1:24:12Speaker 9: Excuse me, my wife.
- 1:24:14Speaker 9: I asked what is that?
- 1:24:16Speaker 9: She told me I can't see me.
- 1:24:17Speaker 2: Fully spoiled, I is all fools day.
- 1:24:19Speaker 2: Fully spoiled, I is all fools day.
- 1:24:35Speaker 7: How about a hand for the chorus group?
- 1:24:36Speaker 7: My cousin died many years in Toco and she left a lot of money for spoiler.
- 1:24:52Speaker 7: My cousin died many years in Toco and she left a lot of money for Spoilo.
- 1:25:00Speaker 7: Now people saying how that a lousy, how did Spoilo do spend he money?
- 1:25:08Speaker 7: But if they put the world in a pitch oil tin, I can't pay a cent to see things spin.
- 1:25:17Speaker 7: Just because I have my money in the bank says the age of nine and them big shots put tears on mine.
- 1:25:26Speaker 7: I have to wait again for a couple years in order to get out mine.
- 1:25:33Speaker 7: They had to take out theirs, spoiler, I wanna ball.
- 1:25:43Speaker 7: Well, sometimes I wake in the morning.
- 1:25:54Speaker 7: I know I have my money.
- 1:25:57Speaker 7: What is to get in?
- 1:25:59Speaker 7: Run down the road and jump in a taxi.
- 1:26:03Speaker 7: I'm all in the bank to get little currency.
- 1:26:07Speaker 7: Now we're reaching the bank and gone by the teller from left to right, she waving she finger go away, mr Philip, no use you stop.
- 1:26:19Speaker 7: Your money is about two feet six from the top.
- 1:26:24Speaker 7: Just because I have my money in the bank Since the age of nine and that big shot put the cares on mine, I have to wait again for a couple years In order to get out mine, they have to wait again for a couple years.
- 1:26:39Speaker 7: In order to get out mine, they have to take out theirs has a voice of relator.
- 1:26:45Speaker 2: And regeneration.
- 1:26:46Speaker 2: Now right.
- 1:26:47Speaker 2: The next one by Spoiler Legs, one named Twin Brother.
- 1:26:59Speaker 9: Have you heard the answer about my twin brother?
- 1:27:01Speaker 9: What is hitting a?
- 1:27:03Speaker 6: major spoiler.
- 1:27:04Speaker 9: Have you heard the answer about my twin brother, what is hitting a major spoiler.
- 1:27:09Speaker 9: But we we are the same face, same kind of hair, the same size of waist, same everything you ask, mr Wilk.
- 1:27:16Speaker 9: Like two chain of the same mega condense milk in the plain footballer in the stand.
- 1:27:21Speaker 2: I sit down with me woman named Lilliana and if me miss a ball.
- 1:27:25Speaker 9: She will turn around telling me I's the worst footballer in town.
- 1:27:39Speaker 9: From the time Spoiler and his brother, born Billy.
- 1:27:42Speaker 9: I was the bad luck one.
- 1:27:44Speaker 9: Oh Lord, billy.
- 1:27:45Speaker 9: She was just 16, he got married, hit his wife and she had to steal.
- 1:27:49Speaker 9: I didn't mind, that didn't worry me.
- 1:27:51Speaker 9: I too went and joined in matrimony.
- 1:27:54Speaker 9: Well, the day of my wedding up came his wife and she made of the biggest mistakes in life.
- 1:27:59Speaker 9: She walked in the place with Constable Dan.
- 1:28:01Speaker 9: What did I spoil?
- 1:28:03Speaker 9: That's my husband, my twin brother.
- 1:28:05Speaker 9: She take me for, he and the old man he charge me for bigger me.
- 1:28:19Speaker 2: I'll even only with this one, right?
- 1:28:20Speaker 2: This might be the first calypso I ever learned to sing on my own, but it's definitely one of the first calypsos I ever fall in love with.
- 1:28:28Speaker 2: This is Spoiler Magistrate, triumphal, uh-huh.
- 1:28:47Speaker 2: Well, this one is glass the charter magistrate for driving too fast.
- 1:28:50Speaker 9: You mustn't doubt me.
- 1:28:51Speaker 9: Well, this one is glass the charter magistrate for driving too fast.
- 1:28:52Speaker 9: But it's one house in the district.
- 1:28:54Speaker 9: He's the only magistrate here to run it.
- 1:28:56Speaker 9: If you see how the people flock up the place, you see how this man is uh-huh.
- 1:29:27Speaker 9: He said go ahead, let me hear what happened.
- 1:29:29Speaker 9: So the police said so.
- 1:29:30Speaker 9: If you see how this man was speed.
- 1:29:30Speaker 9: And he pointed at the magistrate, johnny mead.
- 1:29:32Speaker 9: The magistrate asked him who he talking about.
- 1:29:34Speaker 9: Is you even mean?
- 1:29:35Speaker 9: The policeman, shout out.
- 1:29:37Speaker 9: The magistrate pick up a looking glass and ask himself is it true he was driving fast?
- 1:29:42Speaker 9: He self told himself you are charged for speeding.
- 1:29:44Speaker 9: He self start to shout.
- 1:29:46Speaker 9: The policeman lying Himself told himself to shout it's a no sport.
- 1:29:50Speaker 9: And he charge himself for contempt of court.
- 1:30:19Speaker 9: ¶¶, lawyer talking the magistrate serious sometime.
- 1:30:20Speaker 9: He, laughing at any money straight, tell yourself look, have a great mind to take away your license book.
- 1:30:23Speaker 9: He said to himself you are charged for speeding.
- 1:30:24Speaker 9: Himself told himself.
- 1:30:25Speaker 9: The policeman lying himself told himself to show it's a no sport.
- 1:30:29Speaker 9: And he charged himself for contempt of birth.
- 1:30:32Speaker 9: Uh-huh, yes, I nearly dropped when the man they call the pen and start to some of my partner, I started studying if he could put his own self in custody.
- 1:30:52Speaker 9: I was wrong, because again he took out the mirror.
- 1:30:54Speaker 9: He said that.
- 1:30:56Speaker 9: He said to he burst out a cry.
- 1:30:58Speaker 9: He turned around and said give me a chance.
- 1:31:00Speaker 9: I want a little time to pay.
- 1:31:02Speaker 9: He said to himself you are charged for speeding.
- 1:31:04Speaker 9: He said to himself the policeman lying.
- 1:31:07Speaker 9: He said to himself all right, I will be by the time you're listening to this right.
- 1:31:12Speaker 2: But enjoy the rest of the school holidays for those of y'all who turn on vacation, for those, all those teachers and all that vacation and flying all about on vacation, husband home enjoy it.
- 1:31:37Speaker 2: Enjoy the rest of time time for the training, then we're done with the SCA.
- 1:31:40Speaker 2: Enjoy it.
- 1:31:41Speaker 2: Only like only have two years off before they start secondary school.
- 1:31:44Speaker 2: Enjoy that and have a productive or relaxing week and I will talk to you all next week.
- 1:31:49Speaker 2: Bye.