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Episode 1 Part 2- Jeb Sessums · Pushin' the Cushion

• Jim Gardner: All right, we are back in the inaugural episode of pushing the cushion with driver, the number ⁓ one J Jeb Sessoms. Jeb is talking with Corby and slim. They're going to get into conspiracy theories and hopefully back to some more racing stuff. So let's get into it. Slim Pushins: Welcome to the Pushing the Cushion podcast with Slim Pushings and Corby Scherb. For all your local and national sprint car updates, news, opinions, driver and team interviews, and behind the scenes insights and stories, I promise you've never heard. These two have no idea what they're doing or why they're doing it, so give it a try. If for no other reason, you'll be able to make fun of them for it. from the Rutherford team studio, please welcome Corby and Slim. was, it was a long night, but all right. Let's talk conspiracy theories. Let's, let's talk. Let's get to know the real Jeb. Those of you that don't know Jeb. I gotta be careful. I'm not going to say, don't know if the government's listening to this talk. So such was. Jim Gardner: We're gonna get blacklisted on Spotify episode 1 exposing the truth Slim Pushins: I'm not going to say, so I'll say this. Jeb and I've had, we've had, we've taken road trips and this has come up, um, against his, your dad's better judgment. Your dad's not, he doesn't really buy into that stuff. So it's not that Jeb believes every conspiracy theory, but when you, when you bring one up, he goes down these rabbit hole. got, got, he's got almost like facts. Hours. people believe this stuff. Yeah. I know a lot about specific theories. Not to say that I'm 100 % convinced, but I get their arguments. Go ahead, Corby. You've been waiting for a week since he agreed to be on the show. Go ahead and ask him. Which part? The biggest one about the moon. I'm going to end on the moon. No, absolutely not. ⁓ I couldn't agree with you anymore. There's no way. Absolutely not. Why? Absolutely not. How? There's just so many reasons. I don't think we have a long enough podcast go down this, but listen, we're going to get so much backlash from this. That's okay. That's all right. My, this is my theory. Okay. To get a rocket to the moon takes like 150,000 gallons of rocket fuel, but evidently to leave the moon and crash into the Pacific ocean. It takes air pressure. in, in, like two washing machines tied together. It evidently it takes like 14 gallons. It's like Jim's Prius. That's, that was the catalyst for when I was always on the fence because some conspiracy theories are like way out there. But when I, was like, huh, that like that theory has some legs. So if you go off of like what some of like Elon Musk's, ⁓ engineers are talking about to get to the moon. Just to get to the moon, they need a rocket that's double the size of their original Apollo mission. And it will need to be refueled mid-flight at least six times, but they're thinking probably more like eight or nine times to get to the moon. I just, and then they'll have to refuel it on its way back. So it's like, this was in what, what 1968, 1969? Yeah, yeah. You know, there's like, I can, I can understand like getting to the international space station. That's 350 miles above the surface but for the first shot to the moon when it's like 330,000 miles away just first shot no issues we like we got issues flag was waving the whole thing yeah no that's impossible yeah impossible I agree ⁓ And I know that there's going to be people who argue back with that because the government told us this, but it's just let's just state facts. And this is the thing is that they lost all the original like that's also a big catalyst for me. Like, you telling me? Yeah. That is the biggest moment in history. We just lost all the technology. We're trying to learn the technology, how to get past the, uh, the radiation bill. save, we save toilet paper from previous presidents that are in the archives, but we have no idea. Yeah, exactly. Where, where all of the data is. Yeah. They can, they can get back to the moon and all that. Yeah. Jim's losing his. Jim Gardner: It's going to go on record. This is Jim Gardner of Denison, Texas. I think we landed on the moon officially. The other three, I don't even like them. Slim Pushins: jibs losing his mind right now it's just it's just not possible i can see jim in the other room and he's just and listen he's on his 14th trulies the videos that they have of them like during the apollo mission they don't even have the original tapes from that those are the recordings of what was projected onto a wall at nasa yep Well, what about, what about how long that phone cord had to be to be able to call president? Yeah. were still using rotary phones back then. Like I can't even go into my garage right now and like make a phone call, but yeah, they were in the sixties able to, can't stream music in Nebraska at nationals. Yeah. No, that had to have been a hell of a phone cord. It was a, there's just no way. No, there's no way. What about you and I've had this conversation before. What about the belt? the radiation radiation belt. Yeah. So like there's, there's no physical way at the moment that they can protect, like protect any kind of living organism past those. Radiation belts there's two different belts. There's two different kinds of radiation We have the capability to protect against one not the other So we have no way of getting past it So I just I don't I don't see that as being an option. It doesn't make sense to me. I Don't see why Elon Musk wouldn't be able to get a rocket to the moon and back We have self-driving cars, self-driving cars and all of that. me if I'm wrong, because I, I get all my news from like Facebook and Tik TOK. Haven't they, we were supposed to go back in the last month. So we're supposed to go back. Don't they've pushed that back. I think that's, I think that's fishy. It is to some degree. It is fishy. ⁓ and then also, yeah, that with the technology that we have today. We're landing, you know, they just discarded those rockets. Now, you know, Elon Musk has developed, ⁓ the ability that they capture, they capture those things and they land. That almost looks fake. The videos that you see landing on barges and stuff. It's crazy. Yeah. That it almost looks fake. What is, what's your, Jim Gardner: Wait, before we get off topic here, I pulled up while you guys were rambling, the 105 Speedway schedule down in Houston. We can go down there and run May 16th. think that's, I think that's a Grayson County. I think we all go to NASA, field trip to NASA museum down there. And then you guys can take your accusations to the source. can go, it's September 5th, September 19th. Slim Pushins: Okay, go for it. Jeb's memes. What is happening? ⁓ see, ⁓ You think that they're not going to tell us. Corby, Corby, you want to go to the, you want to go to the Johnson space? We're going to go run. We're all running one ⁓ five. We're going to go to the Johnson space center. This is the issue is, is when you go and visit NASA, that's might as well be going to like Disney world or anything like that. They're just actors. That's it. It's just actors. So I used to live across the street from the Johnson space center and Jim Gardner: August 1. We're going to. Okay. Slim Pushins: A lot of you're not wrong. A lot of what they have down there are recreations of, of lunar modules and, and lunar landers and Sputnik. Well, I've been, I think I've been to both and, what is it? What is it? It's in Ohio or is it in Indiana? there you, there you go. And, I've seen all that stuff and it's real planes. is why we have Jim on board. Cause he is, this is just what I'm doing. Is all the astronauts who have been in Jim Gardner: The National Museum of the Air Force is in Dayton, Ohio. Slim Pushins: to space. They've interviewed multiple ones. There's specific astronauts that say that when they look out the window, outer space is just this beautiful, like you can see the stars perfectly. There's no light pollution or anything like that. You just see all these stars. And then they interview other astronauts and they say, you can't see the stars at all. It's just an immense black darkness. and there's no light. And the only thing that has light is either the sun or the earth. You can't see any stars at all. So I don't understand why astronauts would be those are the ones that haven't been anywhere. They're like sound stages. I just think that they just, it's just whatever is in their imagination. They've never really been to space. The shadows are another thing for me. It started making me think like you've got one light source. but shadows are coming from different, like a football field. Well, and all of these ⁓ suits that they used were hand stitched. ⁓ Corby loves that. By a bunch of seamstresses that used to just be on an assembly line and they hand stitched them and not one of them failed. Like I just. It goes back to the same thing. Like we're talking about in the late sixties. Yeah. Right. Like these. The ladies that stitch it, interviewed them. they literally came from stitching. Quilts. Quilts and blue jeans. And then they got hired on and they did no different specialty stitching at all. It's just whatever they learned in that factory. No like Kevlar, Kevlar thread or anything like that. No, there is, what do you think? There's no way. Nah. There's no way. It's the same. I watched a podcast and they said that, it's a, it's an 8 % of your body weight. Jeb, how, how, you know, I don't even have to ask you how much you weigh. mean, how far could you throw a 20 pound weight? Yeah. So technically if you were standing on the moon, if you jumped with all your force, how high would you go? I I feel like it'd be pretty damn crazy. It wouldn't be just a little, little hover, little hippity hop, get like six inches to her foot. That's where there's, there's no way it's not possible. Listen for all the people this is this my final thought about this for all the people who are who are driving who are ones going off right now driving and Screaming at like what is wrong with you like Jeb seems like such a rounded guy. How could he even think this? This is the question that I leave people with all of the video right? Who took the video exactly who took the video of? Why can't we see the flag? The rocket. We taking back off. can see. him. That guy. Yeah. They left him. left him. Yeah. Yeah. He's just hanging out there still. What's your favorite? Do you have a favorite conspiracy theory? I'd say the moon's probably like one of my favorite ones. I like that. Cause there's, there's so many different arguments and everything. I also do enjoy the flatter theory. Cause there's such a wide array of theories when it comes to it. ⁓ I don't believe the earth is flat though. Some of the arguments are a little convincing, but that's what I'm saying. It's not that you believe in this stuff. feel like flat earth is a little extreme and I can't say that a hundred percent believe in that. Jim has not, if he hadn't already lost his mind, he's about to walk out on that one. ahead, Jim, your thoughts, but you know, you got Antarctica's it's crazy that Jim Gardner: ⁓ no, I'm still here. I'm still here. I'm trying to find a space in the schedule to go down to down to NASA. Slim Pushins: Every single continent had a sign of treaty. Yeah that we couldn't cross because it's according to them not my Theory, but according to flat-earthers. It's because that's the ice wall that prevents the water from falling over Or if you go really extreme, it's the ice wall that This will this will get really deep. So it's the ice wall that actually Secludes us from the 23 other realms Yeah, it's realms. So the earth is actually significantly larger and there's other like humans on this earth and we're just secluded by the ice wall and everybody else knows about each other. We just don't know about them. Why are they so special? Because our uh, powers that be powers that be don't want us to know. Cause like chaos and not knowing is what keeps us like under control because all of them are free and all of that free healthcare. Free everything. Yeah, free everything advanced civilizations Well, I actually I want well cuz go ahead yeah, I asked your question Friday I have one well, this isn't about flat earth. I have a moon question So if you have a flat earth question No, it's not a flat earth question because it falls in the same thing like you're saying that like these other people Know more than us or freer than us or bigger than us or smaller because it falls into the same like the pyramids Yeah, how are the pyramids so? Perfect. Yeah So I think if you go off of that's an interesting one. Yeah. So the pyramid thing, if you want to go like a one conspiracy route is that aliens extraterrestrials, they're the ones who built it. But I feel like now it's probably more of a more agreed upon in the conspiracy theory world that is probably, there's probably advanced civilizations that either we don't know about or that the powers that we don't want us to know about, they just want to base it off of the string of evolution where just ⁓ technology has just increased slowly over an extended period of time. But I feel like that it's probably there are advanced civilizations beforehand and I guess if you go off that one Obama clip that aliens are real so maybe it was aliens that built it well it's the same and I know that I'm gonna get in trouble for saying this you know I mean it's even biblical the giants existed you know they found bones and skulls of these people that are way bigger than any throwing things but but it's it's just a crazy coincidence that everything about the pyramids are absolutely perfect yeah yeah yeah to the tee ⁓ I I think it was perfect to true north and all the measurements line up to what the measurements of the Earth are. either it was, I mean, there's multiple explanations. mean, maybe the pyramids were these transmitting generators, power generators. Right, because they've proved that they can control electricity too, throughout them, you know. There's been a lot of things proven lately. And like you have all of these civilizations that supposedly had no way of having any contact with each other that are on completely different continents that all have these pyramids across the world and they're all perfectly built. So it's like, there was something. So whether it was advanced civilizations, aliens, all of the above, there's something. You think there's something more than, there's something, I mean, I would, I don't know what it is, but the weight, is it a limestone or granite that they're made out of? Yeah. Yeah. So they're, ⁓ her exactly what the weight but they're also Jim's on it yeah he's good on it and googling it he's not even listening he's just looking at race stuff look at a new set up yeah but the I mean we won't even get into shocks right now with Jimmy we won't even start that one talk about conspiracy theories and then Jimmy with his shocks yeah Jim Gardner: Hey, I'm here. I was looking at my shock sheets. I got I got two new sets in I'm sitting here looking at my bed Slim Pushins: It's like Christmas day for Jim. Hey guys, listen, I know y'all are talking about conspiracy theories, but look at these shocks. at these shocks are pretty sweet, but no, think there's, there's so many unanswered things. They're not telling us the straightforward stuff. I think it's ridiculous that they say that. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: you know, they showed like the different levels of the soil and that they're, they lay them out to like different times. Yeah. And there's no way because there's certain portions of it where they have like petrified trees that go that they're, know, did I hear the, say the other day, did I hear recently, I've always assumed or maybe we were sold that pyramids were made, ⁓ to bury. royalty in and did I recently that there's never been? No, they've never found. There's never been anything. never been a Pharaoh inside of. Nothing. Never. No, never been a tomb. Talk about your all time. Like an actual backfires. Maybe they died too soon. Yeah. Yeah. Like you have all these like significant structures that were built for the Pharaohs, but they never found any Pharaohs in there. It's pretty interesting. Jim, do you have any thoughts on the matter? Jim Gardner: just going to go back on record. My name is Jim Gardner and I'm saying this of my own free will. I think we landed on the moon and I've been studying shock sheets for the last 20 minutes. Slim Pushins: I want all the special agents. I think another big con... Another big conspiracy is... We're in middle of a show. Remember that? I mean, let's be honest. World War II, crazy, crazy time. Just even before we landed on the moon. ⁓ you're telling me that the one guy who made almost half the side of the world believe in him killed himself. Yeah, I think that's... Jeb? Jim Gardner: Hahaha! ⁓ boy. Slim Pushins: I just I can't fit it in my head that he would have done that. Yeah, I don't. It's kind of hard to believe, and I feel like, you know, there was there's been multiple like red, redacted CIA files that were released, but there's there's multiple instances in there where they've talked about seeing. Adolf Hitler or someone who resembles him in Argentina, there was known. Multiple. high Nazi officials that escaped to Argentina. A lot of them are on time. What do you know has ever happened in Argentina drugs running? I don't know. That's, that's about it. It's super quiet. Jim, what significant comes out of Argentina. Jim Gardner: I thought drugs was Columbia. I don't know. Slim Pushins: Okay. I don't know if anything comes out. don't know. But they yeah, nope. Jim Gardner: Jeff, just real quick. 96 pounds of compression on the right rear shock. Is that enough or? Slim Pushins: Like is it a single adjustable? Jim Gardner: It's rebound adjustable, so compression is single. Yeah, so 96 would be pretty. I mean, I can block down the left front. If I need to. OK. All right, I just wanted to jump in and get that information while I had you here. Slim Pushins: rebound adjustable, so. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think, yeah, no, that'd be, that'd be just fine. Cause I was always to stop us from conspiracy. The most, the most I run, uh, compression wise, unless it's just super heavy or super rutted up. We're going to get, we're going to start giving away secrets. Yeah. Yeah. On a general, would be about 106 as where mine is at for like a heat race. And then I kind of, I kind of turn her down a little bit. Now, whenever it starts to Jim Gardner: hahahaha ⁓ Okay. All right. Mine's a little soft. Slim Pushins: get heavier or rougher. I remember there was one race talking about getting heavier or rougher. Look at us getting back to racing. We were at Waco and it was absolutely gnarly. I cranked that. Gnarly. I cranked. So that's the one good I asked you that night. Yeah. That's the one good thing about having a double adjustable. Was that the night that you sit like a, you sit like a wheel and tire across the train tracks? No. No, that was different. That was different night. That was a Jim Gardner: Hahaha! No, he's talking about jab. Slim Pushins: Oh, no, talking about a night that Jeb just absolutely annihilated us. just went through the, yes, through the ruts, but I knew it was going to be heavy. I was already, you know, committed height. And so I just pumped my right rear up and then I stiffened my right rear shock to like probably 135 pounds and 140 pounds and just went after it. Tied my left front down and Jim Gardner: I wasn't. Slim Pushins: there she went just send it yeah there's sometimes it just takes a little shock adjustment and I think if we're gonna get like all the way off all that stuff and back to racing there's some nights and there's gyms back in now plenty of racers honestly just do I see him in the window that they will work on their car just too much for sure we've had teammates yeah we had teammates that like the wicker that was the wicker ticker you know Jim Gardner: Alright, let me stand back up. Slim Pushins: what size wicker to go out with. Sometimes it's hard not to wicker tinker. Want to tinker with certain things. It's easy when you start on the front row. It's hard when you're starting eighth to tenth. You know. Yeah. If you're starting on the front row. try a little bit of something a little different. But it is hard not to want to tinker. And at the same time, it's also hard to not want to change from what you do on a week to week basis. It just kind of comes and goes on that. Because I think too, in the week to week basis, a lot of our tracks are pretty similar for the most part when it goes from a heat race to a feature. So for the most part, if you did the same thing every single night, you wouldn't be that far off. Yeah. No, no, no doubt. No doubt. And I've changed up quite a bit, especially since Jim's been on. I've changed up. We've changed up a little bit on the setup wise and yeah, because like I do like the car. I'm going to touch base on this and like, Jim, you have been fast forever, right? As long as I've known you. And if I'm not mistaken, you went off of what the triple X cheat sheet said. to T. Yeah. Basically like basic standard. That's what you did. And no matter what, Jeb was a top five car. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's, that's pretty much neat. Even if I go back to running my personal car, which is a triple X. So if I run a triple X or a maximum, it'd pretty much be just off of the exact what triple X cheat sheet says to do. ⁓ is that what Jimmy does? can't go through Jim's secrets completely. Jim Gardner: There's no secrets. is. Make sure you don't mess the car up. I've been very blessed to have guys that can figure out how to take seventh place shit boxes and run third. Slim Pushins: Jim can go through Jim's secrets. But I would say this. When did that start after Corby? Yeah, for sure. I would say this J R one has kind of thrown us a little bit of a loop. It's I think it's a little bit more temperamental of a car. So we do have to be a little bit more mindful of the setups. Like I feel like with the triple X of my personal car, you could just do a general ballpark thing and it would be pretty much on point every time. Jim Gardner: ⁓ Slim Pushins: This JR-1 is just a little bit more of a, gotta get it more fine tuned. But when it's on, it's significantly faster too. So it's one of those things to where, do you want consistently good or every now and then super bad ass? So in that regard, I have to ask this because I've gotten an inordinate amount of texts and probably Corby too, but I've gotten so many texts and messages. Is is taco casa back? Yeah, taco casas on. We're good. We're still, we're still branded taco casa rolling. this, this season, this season will be brought to you by, ⁓ little bit of taco casa. ⁓ we got the Fox drywall and then long time supporter of you long, long time supporter. Like, so Robbie Fox with Fox drywall, Fox motor sports, he's been helping me out significantly since 2006. Wow. And so it doesn't happen anymore. No, no. And so like in 2006, ⁓ six ⁓ seven is whenever we started running micros. And they actually came by to buy he was with his brother, they're buying his nephew, ⁓ my go cart. ⁓ And it was whenever I was transitioning to get to micros. And ⁓ yeah, ever, ever since then, he's backed me and haven't missed a year. He's he's absolutely been One of the greatest things to my entire racing career. Cause it takes that too, Jeff. Yeah. You know, it takes sponsors. takes people believing in you and then, and then the support and like, I've always like, you know, we've never had a shop to actually work out of and he's got a shop right there by our house that now he has like, you know, four or five stock car sport mods in there. But, ⁓ when we first started running, we had probably three, four or five. Micros in there. And to be able to have somewhere consistent, we'll top the line tools. And it's someone that's always been there and it's so invested in racing. That's been like significant. And then having taco costs on board. Just that's just a kicker. That's it. It's awesome. You know, the, fans love taco casa. So we haven't seen the end of taco bucks as we know it as a whole. That's what I was worried about. Jim Gardner: Curb has been waiting one hour, 32 minutes and 38 seconds to make sure that taco bucks are still in play. I'm going to go ahead and mark that. Slim Pushins: Taco Bucks are still gonna be rolling. You'll still be seeing the taco crew at the racetrack. Jim Gardner: You Slim Pushins: The next teaser we still have taco bucks, you know, I say this in a sense, you know the fans and stuff It's like you said the second opinion stuff that you drive the chili bowl to foxtrot wall. It takes those people that Sometimes you have no idea how you met them and it just it was it just worked out It was simple and they've stuck with you through everything through your highs and lows and like we just said, you know exactly You've had big crashes. You've had bad years. You've had great years. But it's it's like through the through the years of racing. I've been blessed to have a lot of really great people sponsor me and whether they're financially or, you know, it's physically supporting or emotionally, you know, all of that. Or it's me with a mag or, know, the Sherb Stole or stolen mag. Yeah. Sherb parts trailer just hanging out, waiting for me with the mag. Jim Gardner: ⁓ you Slim Pushins: But yeah, that's what, that's what makes the, the local racing successful is the, ⁓ is the, like the friends and family and the community. are you, are you going to try to get out to the, you're to go watch the world of outlaw races at KSP? Yeah, that's my plan. My plans are go out there and hang out. mean, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to attempt a push in the cushion, ⁓ live taping out there. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Not me. I'm not going to be there. I won't be there 100 % going to be there. don't even know why we have to have this conversation. Anyway, uh... Jim Gardner: Corby, you're contractually obligated. ⁓ Slim Pushins: See? Did you get that in your headphones? Is Jim gonna appear at the podcast live? Well, I'll be there with someone. We're gonna try to work with the what's your name? ⁓ rider the plane. you know, when you said someone else, no, the rider. I thought there was some breaking news on episode number one. I'm going to be out there with somebody. Really? I'm going go hang out with rider. So we're going to try to record live out there and ⁓ Jim Gardner: I have it. Yeah. Yeah, I'll be there. ⁓ No. You Slim Pushins: Ideally, I think it'd be awesome just to have people drop by and just set up and up and ride or straight. That's the idea right in the center in the way right in the middle of the what? No, you can't get that tire. We're in the middle of taping. Yeah, we're taping it. Jim Gardner: Sure, Kevin's gonna love that. God, could you imagine if you guys tried to host a podcast live in the Sherb trailer while I was working on all those cars? I'd have flipped the table over. ⁓ Slim Pushins: That's all he says that jokingly, but like, there's a lot of truth to that. I can't imagine if we're being honest right now, and Jeb can probably agree to some of this. I cannot imagine being someone working on me and my brother's cars. If there was four of us. And like I said, all four of us drive differently. Jim Gardner: You Slim Pushins: Well, four of us liked different things. Vastly different. someone like Wesley and Jimmy who had to try to figure out what each driver liked, even like Kerbo said, sometimes I just needed words. Yeah. That was it. I didn't need to change anything. know, I remember that- You know who didn't need words? Lucas the dream Sherb. No, Lucas, Lucas was just, he was just good. As long as his car was about 50%, he was going to be fast. Yeah. I remember there was one night at Kennedale that I ended up winning Jim Gardner: You I ⁓ wait- Slim Pushins: that, uh, called, well, called Jimmy and I asked Jimmy, I asked Jimmy, was like, what do I do tonight? And he said that it's only going to be three quarters of the way up. Don't do anything. He said, pour your wing back too. Jim Gardner: Dude. ⁓ Slim Pushins: you sure? And he goes, yep. I said, okay. That's all I needed to know. That was it. And it's just like you said with a triple X base setup. Sometimes it worked for me weekend and week out. I didn't have to do anything else. Yeah, it took Jim. It's funny because we would be out somewhere without Jim because you know, lives get in the way and you don't, Jim doesn't, he doesn't always get to make it out to the track and Corey be on the phone with him and Jim Gardner: I was not sure. ⁓ Wait. Man, we. Slim Pushins: Jim will ask him a question like, well, what do you want to do? And Corby's answer 100 % of the time is I want you to tell me what to do. This isn't a discussion. I need to know how many clicks I need to know air pressure, everything else. I think we've got dialed in. Well, what are you feeling? Doesn't matter. They just tell me what to do. Jim Gardner: A lot of times it's, you know, just when you're, you're, yeah, when you, when you were just kind of thinking out loud, trying to, you know, decide one way or the other, it's just nice to say it out loud to yourself. And you're either looking for affirmation or you're looking for, you know, ⁓ one way or another. And we, you all, ⁓ all your brothers, your dad showed me so much grace. Cause we kitchen sink most of your cars every night. Slim Pushins: It's mental, Jeb, it is. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Jim Gardner: Crying weird stuff because I grew up in the non-wing racing rule, you know, when cars were never random and what? Slim Pushins: Go ahead. Go ahead and say it. They were what? They were for what? Real men? Jim Gardner: Well, they just weren't around my area. All right. We're non-wing territory. And, uh, you know, think the first, the first. Like four races, Lucas ran in his new car. broke a drive shaft and I'm sitting there and I'm damn, these three Oh five wing cars are hard on driveshafts. Well, the sheriffs weren't cutting them to the right length. You know, you're supposed to, get a 30 inch drive shaft. got to cut it. Slim Pushins: Okay, yeah. Territorial, yeah. You ⁓ Jim Gardner: 28 and a half, they didn't do it. They were just running it and it was splitting it in half. And I was sitting there thinking like, oh, these wind cars are crazy. Uh, you know, and so, uh, when it came to set up stuff, I mean, put Corby on reverse split positive split. I mean, we tried everything under the sun to try to get feel and, I put them in a bad spot a lot of times. And, um, you know, we, we have exhausted a ton of options, um, and said, yep, that doesn't work. Nope. That doesn't work. that when we started to really starting to hit the right feel, ⁓ we could make the car feel really, really good and we'd run ninth. And then we decided to make the car fast and making the car faster made our finishes better. ⁓ took half a season to buy in to say this car doesn't drive great, but it's got 3 tenths of a second more pace when you can get it right. ⁓ Slim Pushins: Did you ever, did you ever, did you ever? Did you ever want to replace Corby? Was that ever the art? We've done everything we can. I'm sure there's maybe a new driver would be able to drive what we're baking for him. Jim Gardner: No, no, man, the sherbs. The sherbs did so much for me when I moved down here. So I found a Slim Pushins: There's Jim skating, skating another question. Jim Gardner: Yeah, no, I found, uh, I found it was a really good fit. I needed something to sink my teeth into and obsess over the sherbs, the sherbs and their race cars were there for me to do that. So, uh, that's right. Yeah. Uh, the, one nobody wanted, so, but, Slim Pushins: Now you're on a podcast. It's been good and I think that racing and locally and like I say, Jim, you're like family now to us and if you told me to do something I would. Yeah. That was a one time for anybody that's listening. That was a one time deal and the Reverend Slim pushings has officially retired. Jim Gardner: ⁓ yeah. ⁓ Kerbo officiated my wedding. You know, you were in it and Kerbo officiated it. You Well, you're still accredited by the state of Texas. So you could come out of retirement. Slim Pushins: I am. Jim sent me, you never heard that story. Jim sent me, he was like, like, so I don't know why the things that he drags me into the podcast being one of them, right? I'm, I'm ordained poor Jeb's like an hour away from home and we're just talking about, yeah, we're on an hour and 40 minutes now. don't have to work tomorrow, so we're good. This is Jeb's prime hour. I'm a nightshifter. Jim Gardner: You Slim Pushins: As of now, in April, I am switching a day shift. Really? So I'll have a normal... That's gonna mess you up. I've done this past... It shouldn't... No, no, should be just fine. As far as I know. Yeah, so Jim's like, there's only... There's three rules for officiating my wedding. A. Jim Gardner: Was that going to mess up the racing schedule? Like do you lose seniority? That darn I was. Slim Pushins: I've got a link that I'm going to send you. need you to be like officially ordained so that you can sign this. B, you got to cut your hair. And C, you cannot cuss during the wedding. I go with B. Keep B. So I was like, fine. Jim Gardner: If you're wondering, he hasn't cut it since the week of my wedding. If you want to know how long I've been married. Slim Pushins: Clearly. Yeah. How long have you been married? Kerbo's hair length worth. So he sends me this link and he's like, man, my mom did it. It shouldn't take you very long. ⁓ it, don't even think it should cost you anything. So I was like, all right, cool. So I'm at work one morning and I ⁓ click on this link and it's like, enter your email address, enter your password. Congratulations. You're ordained. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: It was like, if you want a certificate, send us five bucks. And I was like, don't need a certificate that little. was it. was like, I was like, Jim, I remember texting. I was like, I don't, I don't, I don't know if I missed a step or four or five steps, but like, he's like, what do you mean? I was like, well, you said it wasn't going to take very long. Like the process was like getting onto a website. Jim Gardner: I got this here screenshot. Slim Pushins: It's like logging into my email. Like I'm ordained. I get emails like, congratulations on being ordained for a year. Jim Gardner: You Slim Pushins: We'll keep you noted just in case there's any marriages coming up. Jim Gardner: Anyway, hit us up on our Facebook page if you're getting married this summer at a racetrack. During intermission, during intermission, all the crew chiefs are out there screwdriver in the racetrack. Slim Pushins: Yeah, Corby can get ordained really quickly. I'm not doing it. Live broadcast broadcast. Yeah, during it, we're going to do a, we're going to do a mass wedding in the infield at RPM. We'll talk to Kevin Ramey about that. Corby can get, Corby can get a bunch of race fans married. That's going to lead. We're going to get so many messages. Hey, hey, you guys were serious. Jim Gardner: You're you Slim Pushins: I'd for, I'd love for Corby Sherb to marry me and the old lady. They don't want me. can't, I can't carry a, there you go. That could be the special for the race fans. We got to get with Ramey on Kevin, Ramey on that one at RPM. They're in the middle of like working the track. Jim Gardner: Read new your vowels. There you go. It's like those weddings that are on a golf course and the guy shanks a five iron, right? For Slim Pushins: just yeets one, just yeets one into the, into the grot, into the brides, the bride side. Yeah. All right. We got to, we got to wrap this thing up. So, ⁓ real quick KSP. You're going to try to make all the KSP races. Yeah. The goal is to make all the KSP races. That's my good little local track. ⁓ RPM. Yeah. Jim Gardner: Uncle Frank gets popped in the temple. Are you afraid of any new hard chargers on the scene at KSP that are coming in? Slim Pushins: That's a we're not, we're not, I'm never Jim. The mechanics going to be behind the wheel. Like this is what he's getting at. You know, he's, he's looking, he's looking to be the crown. You know, it kind of keeps me up at night. Luckily I'm a nightshifter. So I'd just stay awake, but you know, there's always that potential that, know, that could be one of those up and coming some surprises before it could be one of those up and comings. You and I want it. That was a huge surprise. Jim Gardner: Alright. ⁓ well. Yeah. Slim Pushins: So you're going to, what about RPM? we'll do, ⁓ we'll do KSP. I'll hit RPM as much as possible. got to kind of figure out what my work schedule is going to be like kind of once I get during the day, rolling for the day shift stuff. So, ⁓ is there anywhere that you haven't raced? What is there? ⁓ I think that was on the run sheet or it wasn't, it should have been, I mean like in Texas. Sure. Or anywhere. DFW. Anywhere. You know, there's a lot of places that haven't raced. Or that you want to race. About want to race? Yeah, like anything on the bucket list. As people are yelling at their. Say it it it bigger like any any type of car. OK to attract. Did you say you want to race? Jim Gardner: Yeah. Do you, do the Foxes want you in their, ⁓ door slam or whatever? I don't know. I'm such Slim Pushins: They do ask me if I'd like to drive one of their factory stock sport mods. I've thought about it, but sometimes it's hard to juggle that. Jim Gardner: I wonder like how much do you have to... Slim Pushins: with the sprint car. So I think that would be cool, but in one of those fender, I think a fender car would be cool. could be out of place by seeing this. I think you would get bored. I think so. Like my, the one I'm going to get a lot of hate mail on that one. The, the, the bucket list thing that I would love to do, which it doesn't even really pertain to like circle dirt track, but would be like a trophy truck. Yeah. Like I think that that is bucket list. If someone asked me, or if I won the lottery or whatever. I would like to drive a trophy truck and then like the Jimmy Johnson, Robbie Gordon special. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like I think the short course, like short course would be super bad ass because I wouldn't have to really, don't know if I expected that from Jim. think that would be, I think that would be a life goal. know, the pro two stuff seems really hard. Pro four stuff seems really cool. Yeah. Yeah. But it's also like, Big lotto. Yeah. Yeah. So I think, I think that would be cool. The, the, the short course stuff, the, the Baja, you know, 500 and all that stuff would be cool. But it also would be so focused on not running something over like a tree, anything. Well, it's crazy. This truck ran into a cow. Yeah. Stay like, where's a cow in the desert for it? But yeah, like, is this thing, is this thing regulation size or what? Yeah. Like, why? I know. That'd be what I'd be worried about. So I've been more short course. That stuff would be cool. Yeah. Cause I mean, I've done, you know, four 10, three 60 midgets, micros, everything open wheel. Jim Gardner: Yeah. but the fender stuff doesn't interest you or. Slim Pushins: I think the fender stuff, I think it would be super cool to drive. You know, one of these days I am getting in one of Fox's either factory stock. think they're all, they're just going mainly factory stocks this year. One of these days I'm definitely gonna get in one. And then I think it would be cool to drive a modified or a late model just to feel that. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Just to get that Kevin Rutherford's got one weekend. ⁓ I know a guy I would love just to make, you know, five, 10 laps just to see what it feels like to have that like left rear hike up. it does. think that looks like the total opposite. Yeah. What we know. think that would be super, super cool. were, ⁓ you at chili bowl, you were this year, you were teammates with the reigning O'Reilly's series. Jesse Love. you talk smack where you're like, Hey, listen, like, Jim Gardner: Yeah. I wanna get- Slim Pushins: Cause your lap times at Talladega, I think I could have, I'm not saying, you you'd like to sometimes he's super nice, but you know, that's such a short amount of time. You don't really get to get to know certain people. And so didn't feel like I could really talk shit to you. that, like you wasn't there yet. Not there to the talk shit part. Jim Gardner: Also, it's also a especially there, you know, we have to remember that the second opinion auto program is much better than than the program we've been on. It's you know. Yeah, like it's. They're not messing around like that's not a fun week, you know, that's they're there to get it on and be a part and be part of. Slim Pushins: That's just. That's a solid, it is. sure. It's down to business. It's a super cool thing to be a part of. It is absolute work. Jim Gardner: of late night Saturday action. Slim Pushins: You were, you were amongst, you were amongst some, so we just talked about Jesse love and then the owner of that team's son is a, is a cup crew chief, right? Yeah. So he's, he's Alex Bowman's crew chief. ⁓ so he actually, ⁓ he, him and all of that, they, so he ended up building a car. So Blake, so he ended up building a car and him and his dad kind of went in for like Jesse loves car for Tad to the team this year. And then his dad owns the other cars. There's also another car owner, Wayne that owns one. And so there's, there's some very, they're very talented drivers. There's a lot of hardworking people in that crew. ⁓ and so it's, one of those. you tell me, did you tell me this year at chili bowl that. throughout the week, how many different crew members were going to be in and out? It was a crazy number. was like a hundred people. Yeah, there was a, there was a good amount of like the, there's a good amount of the, the crew guys that kind of rotated through there. ⁓ and there's, there's so many, so there's like, The second opinion workers, so the employees for second opinion Auto Center, they all will come through. Some of them come during the week, and some of come for the weekend. And then you have all the friends and family of the drivers and the crew. so like in total, ⁓ I think there's usually somewhere around 150 plus 180 like that are associated with it, whether it's friends that we've made through the years at the chili bowl. But, ⁓ I don't think Jim could have handled that. Jim doesn't like, ⁓ Jim doesn't like not being the man amount of people. And, ⁓ it's, super cool. It is cool. But Jim Gardner: Yup. They, yeah, they do a really good job. They've got really fast and competitive cars and they got a huge operation that's got like hospitality and food and adult beverages and like they strike an incredible balance of being really high end performing, but also a high end, high energy ⁓ pit to hang out in when you're not racing. Slim Pushins: Yeah, we got a little hospitality trailer. Yeah, they're super cool. And they also sponsor Monday nights at the ⁓ yeah. Yeah. Second opinion Auto Center qualifying night. That's right. So it is it's a cool thing to be a part of. But it's it's cool to see some of the people that kind of filter through there that are extremely high up in the NASCAR world. And, know, like when Jim Gardner: Yeah, yeah. But yeah. Slim Pushins: Like when Jesse ended up crashing the A main turned out to be just fine. ⁓ but when he crashed into a main, you just sitting up in the trailer and Kyle Larson walks up into our trailer just to come check on him. I'm Hey Kyle, how's it going? Hey, I'm also one of these drivers. I'm Jeff. I'm a nurse. So it's cool just to be a part of something like that, where you have some real high level NASCAR. Jim Gardner: you Slim Pushins: It's pretty cool and like we'll like to say to intimidate that very little NASCAR people down to like what you yourself as a racer, you know, and Local local driver that's a cool thing about a whole team that you have all these people in the same Expectations are for you as to anyone else who drives their stuff. Yeah, exactly Exactly. All right. We really gotta get at it. Jeb asked me before we started recording like how long what's your aim? Like what are we 30 minutes? We're going on almost two hours Jim Gardner: It's got by quick. Slim Pushins: It's pretty solid. Yeah. Thank you very much for coming on. I really appreciate it. Yeah. I appreciate everything. And, ⁓ come by, come by when we're recording live. Yeah, I'll come back on for sure. know, when you get a bunch of someone else has to be the more of a guest and I'll be just like Jim, just the guy that chimes in at the wrong minute. Not host, cause I don't want their host responsibility, but I'll be the random, kind of like the, like the backstretch gate guy. Yeah. Yeah. I'm more of that guy. Yeah. Yeah. Like, do you have your pit pass? Yeah. That guy, that guy, I'd never, the guy that does that at KSP, I'd never met him before in my life. And I was coming off the track when he's like, pull me over there. And I was like, Oh, I've done something. And he goes, Hey, Jim Gardner: Sorry. Hahaha! Slim Pushins: You're the one that does those videos with Corby. And I go, yeah. And he goes, goes, man, yeah, it's the other, it's the other big dude. He was like, man, I really need more of those. Like I watch him when I take a shit. I really appreciate that. And I appreciate the kind words. So Jim Gardner: Now it's the other guy. Ha ha ha ha ha! Slim Pushins: I appreciate y'all. This was fun. It was good. It was good to know the deeper Jeff systems than we're have them on again. Like we didn't get to everything in now. Yeah. Jim Gardner: Well, we got to do a live out in the NASA parking lot and then go race 105 later that night. That's what we need to do. Slim Pushins: We can do that. That's what's going to next. I'm here for it. I'll get more. Just yelling at people that walk out that's clocked out like, y'all didn't land on the moon. Yeah. Yeah. You live a life of lies. I'll get some more like valid statistics. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Come see us at one of five. All right. Thank you. I appreciate it guys. Appreciate it. Jim Gardner: Debate me! Come see us at 105 tonight. You Appreciate you, Jeb. Slim Pushins: My name is Jeff. Thank you for listening to the Pushing the Cushion Podcast. I'm sorry that it was a complete waste of your time. Maybe Corby and Slim will actually learn how to make an interesting podcast before the next one. Who am I kidding? I don't get paid enough for this. We'll see you next time.