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Inside Scoop with Breitbart News - Oliver Lane · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: 806, the 55KRC talk station. It's Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: It's that time every Tuesday for the Inside Scoop from
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  Speaker 2: Breitbart News. That's B-R-E-I-T-B-A-R-T dot com. Bookmark it. Be glad
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  Speaker 2: you did. And joining us today, the return of Oliver Lane,
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  Speaker 2: who's the Breitbart News London Bureau Chief to talk about
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  Speaker 2: Marxists running amok all over Europe. Welcome back, Oliver Lane.
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  Speaker 2: It's a pleasure to have you back on the show.
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  Speaker 1: Oliver?
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  Speaker 2: Oliver?
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  Speaker 1: Hi, can you hear me?
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  Speaker 2: Now I can hear you. Oliver, good to have you
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  Speaker 2: back on the show.
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  Speaker 1: That was the perfect moment for the signal to drop. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: We've had challenges in the past, usually technologically related, Oliver,
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  Speaker 2: which leaves me in a lurch when I'm thinking I'm
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  Speaker 2: talking to somebody and I'm like, oh, hurry up and
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  Speaker 2: get a subject to talk about because your guest has disappeared.
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  Speaker 2: Glad you're there and glad you're here to talk about this.
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  Speaker 2: We start out in France. Well, it started out at
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  Speaker 2: least purportedly as a protest from students about the conditions
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  Speaker 2: in schools. And, uh, I, whether or not that's true,
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  Speaker 2: it was that whole thing seemed to have been co-opted.
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  Speaker 2: And now there's a whole coalition. You got the red
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  Speaker 2: green folks out there, which are the Marxist and the Islamist.
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  Speaker 2: You got students still there. You have the yellow vesters,
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  Speaker 2: which are the farmers. You've got your global warming fanatics
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  Speaker 2: that are out there. It seems to be this, this
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  Speaker 2: mixed bag, uh, alliance of convenience that's unfolded there. So
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  Speaker 2: France responded. The French government said, OK, OK, OK, I
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  Speaker 2: hear your protests to students out there. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: cap classes at 28 students and blah, blah, blah. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to offer all kinds of relief for these alleged
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  Speaker 2: claims about the school system. But that's not going to
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  Speaker 2: make this go away, is it, Oliver?
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  Speaker 1: No, indeed. And you've explained what's going on very succinctly there,
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  Speaker 1: which is that we had a organic protest movement, sure,
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  Speaker 1: months ago now, which was utterly co-opted by the left.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a really fascinating interview that was published in
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  Speaker 1: a French newspaper yesterday. with the former head of France's
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  Speaker 1: CIA equivalent. And this guy, always very interesting, and because
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  Speaker 1: he's now outside of the system, can really speak his
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  Speaker 1: mind and his diagnosis of what's going on, and importantly,
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  Speaker 1: why this is different to other riots in France, because
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  Speaker 1: I think as anybody watching what's going on here knows, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: they have riots in France quite a lot. They do
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  Speaker 1: it every year. That's kind of part of France's culture
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  Speaker 1: in a way, going back to the revolution of the
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  Speaker 1: 18th century. But it's different this time. And his, and
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  Speaker 1: I say, I think his view is one that's really
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  Speaker 1: worth listening to. which is that for the first time
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  Speaker 1: we have these disparate groups that you could say are
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  Speaker 1: on the left, certainly some of them are, and you
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  Speaker 1: have the standard left-wing students, you have the radicals, the
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  Speaker 1: black bloc, the antifa, if you like, these organised hard-left groups,
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  Speaker 1: Then you have the unassimilated migrant, large numbers of migrants
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  Speaker 1: who don't feel French, who don't feel connected to France.
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  Speaker 1: And actually, there's not a lot of common ground between
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  Speaker 1: these groups. I mean, what does a white middle class
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  Speaker 1: French leftist really have with an unassimilated, unemployed migrant group?
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  Speaker 1: So there's not a lot of common ground there, actually,
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  Speaker 1: other than perhaps a common hatred for the West and
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  Speaker 1: that sort of thing. But what's being said here is
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  Speaker 1: that actually, basically for the first time, these disparate groups that,
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  Speaker 1: as I say, don't have a great deal in common
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  Speaker 1: have managed to coordinate. And this is new. And this
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  Speaker 1: is why these riots, I mean, okay, they may or
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  Speaker 1: may not be more or less intense than other riots
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  Speaker 1: that have gone before. You could say, oh, well, these
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  Speaker 1: riots in 2020, these were bigger. The fact is this
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  Speaker 1: has a great deal of potential to get much worse.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a certain pattern that's emerged. And again, I
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  Speaker 1: find this is fascinating analysis from this former head of
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  Speaker 1: the French CIA homologue. And he says that every day
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  Speaker 1: they have one of their protest days. We had one
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday just gone. The Saturday before that, it kind
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  Speaker 1: of comes in waves. And he described it as being like,
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  Speaker 1: you remember those enormous Saturn V booster rockets that took
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  Speaker 1: man to space? The huge boosters that took the shuttle
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  Speaker 1: into space? And they worked on sort of stages. So
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  Speaker 1: like you'd have the first stage that would burn up
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  Speaker 1: and then it would get disconnected. It would fall back
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  Speaker 1: to earth. Then you'd have the next stage that would
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  Speaker 1: burn and so on and so on. So you have
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  Speaker 1: three stages and that would finally get you into space.
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  Speaker 1: And he compares it to this. So in the morning
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  Speaker 1: of a protest day, you have what you might call
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  Speaker 1: like the legitimate protesters, people who are out, they've got placards,
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  Speaker 1: they march up and down the street. They're not fighting
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  Speaker 1: with the police. They're there because they want change. You know,
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  Speaker 1: these might be in this case, The students, they go
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  Speaker 1: home at lunchtime. Then in the afternoon, running into evening,
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  Speaker 1: you move then into the professional protesters. This is your Antifa.
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  Speaker 1: This is your black bloc. They take over where the
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  Speaker 1: previous group left off. This is violence, clashing with police.
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  Speaker 1: These guys are hardcore left-wing radicals. They then give up
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  Speaker 1: when midnight rolls around and you have the third act,
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  Speaker 1: this third stage in the booster, where taking over from
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  Speaker 1: the Antifa or the black bloc radicals are the unassimilated
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  Speaker 1: migrants who are out, and they're basically just looting. This
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  Speaker 1: is rioting and looting. So you have this sort of
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  Speaker 1: three stage and every single one ratchets up the violence,
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  Speaker 1: ratchets up the intensity. So you have these three stages
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  Speaker 1: of protesters through the day. But guess what? There's only
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  Speaker 1: one stage of police. They are thoroughly out of energy
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  Speaker 1: by the end of the day, by the time you're
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  Speaker 1: rolling through into the next morning. And as it was
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  Speaker 1: this Saturday just gone, the French state put everything they
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  Speaker 1: had on the front line to avoid a repeat of
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  Speaker 1: the previous week. Every single police officer in the country
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  Speaker 1: was out. All leave cancelled. All other police duties put aside.
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  Speaker 1: The army deployed to hold rear echelon areas so they
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  Speaker 1: could have as many cops as they could on the
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  Speaker 1: front line. The problem is, once you've reached that maximum
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  Speaker 1: possible deployment, if the riots keep getting worse, you're out
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  Speaker 1: of options.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I guess one from the United States of America
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  Speaker 2: might point to an armed citizenry in the Second Amendment
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  Speaker 2: as maybe providing some support for the overwhelmed forces that
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  Speaker 2: are trying to keep the government alive and well. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: I had to interject that.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, we've had some reports on this at Breitbart
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  Speaker 1: News in recent days. On one hand, we had a report,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was on Friday, about French shopkeepers, Parisian shopkeepers,
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  Speaker 1: flocking to the city's handful of gun stores, to buy
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  Speaker 1: self-defense items. But of course, to own a firearm for
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  Speaker 1: the express intent of self-defense in most of Europe, certainly
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  Speaker 1: in the UK, is completely illegal. You will definitely go
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  Speaker 1: to jail for that. So what are they left to get?
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  Speaker 1: They're picking up pepper sprays, like defensive items like that, batons.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of this also is illegal, right? So they
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  Speaker 1: feel like the police are not necessarily going to be
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  Speaker 1: there for them. And I know... It's easy to look
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  Speaker 1: at the French and say, they're so passive, they're so reserved.
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  Speaker 1: The silent majority remains silent. They're not doing anything to
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  Speaker 1: stand up against these rioters. And again, this is, again,
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  Speaker 1: back to the words of this former director of the
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  Speaker 1: French CIA equivalent. He says, and again, I think this
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  Speaker 1: is a great point, don't be too disheartened when you
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  Speaker 1: see the French people continuing to rely on the police,
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  Speaker 1: even though the police aren't doing a great job. This
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  Speaker 1: shows enormous restraint on their behalves. And the moment the
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  Speaker 1: silent majority take up arms and start fighting back, you
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  Speaker 1: no longer have a state. The state the state monopoly
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  Speaker 1: on violence is broken. It's over. There is no longer
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  Speaker 1: a French government and the country is in a state
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  Speaker 1: of civil war, which I think we all want to avoid.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think I agree with you completely on
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  Speaker 2: that one, Oliver Lane. But now there are those out
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  Speaker 2: there like you look at the the red coalition, the
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  Speaker 2: Marxist out there. They want to bring down the system.
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  Speaker 2: That is their goal. You know, you know, capitalism, evil.
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  Speaker 2: But you've this is they're living in socialism. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it Marx's theory that you have to work through
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  Speaker 2: a period of socialism before you can get to communism? Well,
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  Speaker 2: socialism has epically failed. So you either go back to
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  Speaker 2: what worked before, which was maybe unrestrained capitalism or at
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  Speaker 2: least regulated capitalism like we have in here in the
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  Speaker 2: United States, or you go full-on communism. This socialism clearly
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  Speaker 2: doesn't work. Look at France's finances. They gave the socialists
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  Speaker 2: everything they wanted. Retire at age 62, get a fat pension,
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  Speaker 2: you know, free this, free that, free health care, which
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  Speaker 2: really isn't. And they're underwater, and they have been for
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  Speaker 2: years and years. Oliver, you can't right this ship, can you?
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  Speaker 2: Absent draconian cuts, which would only make these riots situation worse,
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  Speaker 2: I would imagine.
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  Speaker 1: So what we've identified there is completely right, which is
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  Speaker 1: that France has one of the worst debt-to-GDP ratios of
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  Speaker 1: any country in the European Union. I think their national
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  Speaker 1: debt is about 110%, 120%. of GDP, which is well
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  Speaker 1: above what the European Union officially says it should be,
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  Speaker 1: which is about 66% or something. So we're well ahead.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's the second or third worst after
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  Speaker 1: real basket cases like Greece. So France is in a
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  Speaker 1: lot of trouble. It's in hock to the bond markets
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  Speaker 1: because they borrowed so much money. And if they want
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  Speaker 1: to keep that show on the road, they have to
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  Speaker 1: keep borrowing money because their expenditure is greater than their
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  Speaker 1: tax receipts. I'm going to cite another contextual expert on this.
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  Speaker 1: This is where the real concern comes in. This is
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  Speaker 1: Professor David Betts. a professor of War in the Modern
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  Speaker 1: World at King's College London. And he is an academic
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  Speaker 1: studying civil wars, how civil wars happen, why they happen.
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  Speaker 1: And his... thesis, which is fascinating, is that we have
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  Speaker 1: this perception in the West that civil wars don't happen here.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, okay, the US had a civil war. England
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  Speaker 1: had a civil war. These were a very long time
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  Speaker 1: ago now. In the modern world, post-Second World War world,
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  Speaker 1: wealthy first world countries simply don't have them. This is
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  Speaker 1: a third world thing. And he looks at the reasons
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  Speaker 1: for this. And one of them is that as long
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  Speaker 1: as the state has money, it can keep the wheels on. Right.
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  Speaker 1: As long as you can keep buying off special interest groups,
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  Speaker 1: you can keep bribing people, you can keep that welfare flowing.
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  Speaker 1: That is provides just enough soporific money. Social safety that
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  Speaker 1: people aren't taking up arms as long as the welfare
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  Speaker 1: keeps coming. So if you look at these two facts
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  Speaker 1: we've introduced here, which is on one hand, as long
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  Speaker 1: as first world countries have enough money to bribe people
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  Speaker 1: into being quiet, everything will be okay. And on the
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  Speaker 1: other hand, France is broke. Add those two things together,
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  Speaker 1: where does that leave you?
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  Speaker 2: Chaos, violence in the street, a collapsing system. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the only exacerbated the problem, I don't know what the
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  Speaker 2: hell the European Union was thinking with this open borders reality.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, France, at least you could argue, had a
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  Speaker 2: cultural identity. I have a good friend. Matter of fact,
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  Speaker 2: I'm having lunch with him today. He's in from France
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  Speaker 2: making a trip here. We're going to have lunch. He
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  Speaker 2: married a French citizen years and years ago, and he
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  Speaker 2: became a French citizen himself because he mastered the language.
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  Speaker 2: They insisted on that, along with knowing the history of France,
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  Speaker 2: the culture of France. It was a rigorous thing to
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  Speaker 2: become a French citizen, but there's part of the culture.
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  Speaker 2: That's the point of having this regulated immigration system. You
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  Speaker 2: bring a whole bunch of North African Islamists into that
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  Speaker 2: formerly identity-rich French culture, what do they expect to happen?
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  Speaker 2: Most notably in a system that is overwhelmed by debt
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  Speaker 2: and spending that can't be sustained within its own population.
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  Speaker 2: It's like they designed this to collapse.
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  Speaker 1: And it's also, I've always thought, reasonably ironic because in
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  Speaker 1: a world where actually all of our identities and all
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  Speaker 1: of our cultures are being slowly eroded as we sort
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  Speaker 1: of move towards a homogenous global single culture, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a terribly sad thing because there are so many
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  Speaker 1: wonderful cultures on every continent of the world and this
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  Speaker 1: globe is richer and more interesting and more varied and
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  Speaker 1: more valuable for them. And as they're slowly eroded away,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a great loss. But... the French are
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  Speaker 1: quite chauvinistic about their culture. And that's what you describe
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  Speaker 1: with your friend, who, as you say, was very rightly
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  Speaker 1: forced to become French. If you wanted to hold that
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  Speaker 1: French passport, you had to learn the language, you had
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  Speaker 1: to learn the culture. And the French are, as I say,
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  Speaker 1: quite chauvinistic about that. The irony, as I say, is
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  Speaker 1: they're almost running it at two speeds. On one hand,
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  Speaker 1: the French are very, very jealous of their culture. They
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  Speaker 1: hate speaking English. They love to like every other European.
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  Speaker 1: You go to any country in Europe, you find people
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  Speaker 1: who speak English anywhere. And even if you tried to
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  Speaker 1: speak to them in their own language, like, look, you know,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for trying. We appreciate it. But let's do this
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  Speaker 1: in English. You go to France. They want to speak French.
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  Speaker 1: They want to do their culture. They want to do
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  Speaker 1: the things they do. That's good. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: so that's the front door. The front door is bolted.
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  Speaker 1: It's armed against the world. They still speak the French language.
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  Speaker 1: They still have this French culture. But then the back
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  Speaker 1: door is wide open. So as they maintain this brave
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  Speaker 1: face to the world of this, as I say, this Gaul,
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  Speaker 1: this Gallic chauvinism, and I mean that in a good way.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're chauvinistic in a bad way. I
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  Speaker 1: admire that about them. But while they do it, the
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  Speaker 1: foundations are being eroded and the whole edifice is going
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  Speaker 1: to come crashing down around them.
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  Speaker 2: No question about it. And here I can only make
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  Speaker 2: the argument on the fly here that I would say
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  Speaker 2: that cultural identity is cloaked in freedom, the concept of freedom,
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  Speaker 2: the liberty to do what you want, free of government control,
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  Speaker 2: to pursue your own interests, to become successful. The entrepreneurial
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  Speaker 2: spirit is uniquely American, I would argue, and that is
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  Speaker 2: exactly what's being eroded here in our political system. And
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  Speaker 2: I would say exacerbated as well by this unchecked, unregulated
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  Speaker 2: flow of immigration that we only recently got on top of.
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  Speaker 1: Well, this is the point I repeatedly make, and I
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  Speaker 1: repeatedly make it because it's so important. America, please, God,
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  Speaker 1: even if you don't care about us Europeans, and I
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  Speaker 1: can't blame you for that, pay attention to what's happening here,
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  Speaker 1: because what's happening here, we are months and years ahead
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  Speaker 1: of you in the US. What the left does here
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  Speaker 1: is what the Democrats want to do to you there.
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  Speaker 1: President Trump said himself last week, the spires of Europe
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  Speaker 1: are burning, and we will not allow that to happen here.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's too right.
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  Speaker 2: In bold, underline, exclamation point, Oliver Lane, the London Bureau
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  Speaker 2: Chief for Breitbart News. God bless you, sir. Appreciate the
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  Speaker 2: time you spent with my listeners and me today, and
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  Speaker 2: I'll look forward to having Breitbart on again next week.
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  Speaker 2: Keep up the great work, my friend.