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Episode 192: Hulk Hogan Passes Away & Fantastic 4 Slurp Review · Chucks Cantina

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Speaker 1: This is Chuck's Cantina podcast where anything and everything is
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Speaker 1: up for discussion. And now here's your barman Chuck o'donald
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Speaker 2: Oh, brother? You got me? Somebody get my wife and
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Speaker 2: kids on the phone. Well this was a really long
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Speaker 2: three count, but just like some had a kick out
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Speaker 2: at two point ninety nine or in some mintence's three
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Speaker 2: point zero one, welcome to Chuck's Cantina. I am your
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Speaker 2: favorite barman host whatever the hell you want to call me.
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Speaker 2: Chuck still got that line right, So yeah, let's get
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Speaker 2: to the chase where the folk. Have I been no
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Speaker 2: grapes about it, apologize, just I've had a lot going on.
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Speaker 2: Everything's good. Just been trying to enjoy the summer. As
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Speaker 2: I said last time, you're doing some voice acting stuff,
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Speaker 2: trying to really get my head. I'm going full full
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Speaker 2: head dive into that as well house stuff. Lovely wife
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Speaker 2: came home as well as our lovely dog. So it
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Speaker 2: was just it's been a crazy it's crazy to say,
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Speaker 2: it's been a crazy couple of months already since I
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Speaker 2: was last time here. So back to the weekly schedule programming.
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Speaker 2: Didn't you say that episode? Yeah? I think I did
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Speaker 2: when I did the ball Arena and all the other
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Speaker 2: serp review Oh yeah, and or it's a pretty pretty
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Speaker 2: good show. You'll probably check it out. You haven't watched
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Speaker 2: it anyway, and was good too. Anyway, let's get right
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Speaker 2: to it. Ooh, man, hold on, that is really really good.
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Speaker 2: I gotta make sure I get my notes here. Put
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Speaker 2: right to it. What are we drinking this evening? So uh,
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Speaker 2: if you're listened to the top of the show, or
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Speaker 2: if you didn't read the tide of today's episode, well
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Speaker 2: kind of explains what's in there. We'll be doing a
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Speaker 2: slurp reviews. I just got back from seeing a film
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Speaker 2: called some Fantastic Film. If you will, I'll probably be
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Speaker 2: one of ten times I'll say that joke a little
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Speaker 2: spoiler in terms of how I thought the film went.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, we'll be doing a short review of the
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Speaker 2: new Marvel film Fantastic for spoiler not for that, be
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Speaker 2: spoilers later. I have not seen Superman yet, and I'm
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Speaker 2: kicking myself in the asks because I heard it was decent,
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Speaker 2: all right, not even decent, really good, just having a
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Speaker 2: chance got to it, you know, just just life, just
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Speaker 2: how life goes. Just give like I said, quick scope,
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Speaker 2: wife came home, dog came home. We had a good
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Speaker 2: to a couple of weeks. We did christ in July
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Speaker 2: with our friends. That was always fun. We did other stuff.
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Speaker 2: I've gone visit my parents a couple of times. I
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Speaker 2: went four wheeling, and I've gone more tattoos, and I'm
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Speaker 2: getting more tattoos this weekend. Because life and awesome decisions,
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Speaker 2: because it's our life. We do ever the hell we want.
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Speaker 2: Anyway to the main question and more question, So what
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Speaker 2: am I drinking? I am drinking whistle pig piggyback six
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Speaker 2: years bourbon whiskey. It's very good, very smooth. I been
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Speaker 2: trying to, Oh damn, that's good. I've been trying to.
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying drink more, just be like, oh hey,
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Speaker 2: we have this lovely barkhard of all these nice things
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Speaker 2: that friends have gotten us. And if you listen to
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Speaker 2: the podcasts, you know, majority of times, but I'm on here,
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Speaker 2: I usually don't drink. It's not even just not eve design.
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Speaker 2: Just like I like cold water, I like flavored water.
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I also have a bubbly on
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Speaker 2: the side here just as a little uh, a little
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Speaker 2: not even chase her, just a little something to keep
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Speaker 2: my hydrated. It's bubbly orange cream. And by the way,
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Speaker 2: this is my least favorite flavor of the Bubblies. I
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Speaker 2: didn't buy it because of my least favorite. I bought
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Speaker 2: us to try it out. It's my least favorite, but
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Speaker 2: it's not terrible. I'm not a cream soda guy. So
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Speaker 2: anyway back to what I said I called months ago.
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Speaker 2: You listened to the intro of the show. That is
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Speaker 2: an edit I made. I had made that on paid
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Speaker 2: or anything like that. That was just something I just try
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Speaker 2: to do for someone, but they for a show called Solomonster.
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Speaker 2: You just defely checked that out. I was a little
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Speaker 2: bored one night actually when you track that. I was
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Speaker 2: a little bored at a few cocktails. So I was like, Hey,
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make a funny edit of Hulk Hogan. Not
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Speaker 2: in a way to like be rude or anything like that,
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Speaker 2: just like a little funny thing because unfortunately the last
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Speaker 2: couple months he had been the news for some not
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Speaker 2: so I'm not gonna say not, I mean not personally,
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Speaker 2: not as bad as some things he had been saying
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Speaker 2: or that have happened in years past, but just in
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Speaker 2: wrestling fans will know called Hogan lives. So I made
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Speaker 2: his edit and I sent it to him, and we
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Speaker 2: had a couple of nice exchange matches because literally that
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Speaker 2: week he actually had made his own so we had
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Speaker 2: laugh about it. But I thought, well, I used I
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Speaker 2: made it, might as well use it here. But a
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Speaker 2: little bit of tribute because of Fortunately, the news today
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Speaker 2: was that Hulk Hogan has passed away. Terry boleya this
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Speaker 2: is real name, passed away the age of seventy one.
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Speaker 2: Fortunate to do a heart attack. If you've been in
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Speaker 2: social media, Fortunately in today's age, you're gonna be seeing
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Speaker 2: a lot of love messages, of a lot of great
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Speaker 2: messages of like I'm a wrestling fan because of this guy.
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Speaker 2: I'm a wrestler because of this guy. You're even gonna
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Speaker 2: see messages where if you're a wrestling fan, you're gonna go,
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Speaker 2: why is that guy making it writing a heart nice,
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Speaker 2: heartfelt message about Hulk Hogan considering all the things they
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Speaker 2: might this guy might have said about Hogan in the past.
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Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, we're all human
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Speaker 2: and not everyone is an asshole. So here's my stance
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Speaker 2: on it. Yes, have the last ten years for the
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Speaker 2: Hulks have been a little weird. Yes, have some things
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Speaker 2: come out about him that didn't make him look so
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Speaker 2: good in the limelight. Absolutely not. Have some more clarifications
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Speaker 2: on some of the stories he has told come out
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Speaker 2: where he also does not look good. Of course not.
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Speaker 2: But you know, at the end of the day, there
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Speaker 2: are certain things. There's that old expression, you know, when
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Speaker 2: you say, there's that old expression and now my phone's
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Speaker 2: going off, but going to a flag for that, there's
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Speaker 2: that old expression. And I probably should know this. I mean,
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Speaker 2: make sure Clinton Klak is night to hear about history,
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Speaker 2: and that's a pretty easy one to remember. Essentially, it's
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Speaker 2: history is written by the victors. A lot of people
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Speaker 2: want to rewrite history essential to write him out of wrestling.
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Speaker 2: The problem is you can love him, you can hate him,
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Speaker 2: but when it comes to wrestling, he's Michael Jordan. You
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Speaker 2: can't deny what he did. He under Vince McMahon's vision,
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Speaker 2: took that ball and ran with it, and he got
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Speaker 2: professional wrestling out of Bingal Hall's carnivals, which, by the way,
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Speaker 2: I you'ver been in wrestling showing a bingo hall, I
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Speaker 2: recommend it's a lot of fun. That's og patron about it.
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Speaker 2: We had a blast a couple we've gone to ore
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Speaker 2: like over the last couple years. Although we I've done
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Speaker 2: in a while. We need to do that now because
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Speaker 2: even better now we're thirty. But yeah, a lot of things,
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Speaker 2: you know, uh like totally losing my training fly her site.
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Speaker 2: Has been a long day when history is written by
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Speaker 2: the victors. Despite everything that's come out about him the
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Speaker 2: last ten years, you can't deny the fact of what
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Speaker 2: this guy did in wrestling. So I like to think
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Speaker 2: in terms of just what wrestling is. He is the
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Speaker 2: reason that a lot of what I like and what
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Speaker 2: I watch is present today. I'm not gonna say that
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Speaker 2: wrestling isn't a thing if he's not involved. I'm not
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Speaker 2: going to say to w doesn't exist exist if he
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Speaker 2: wasn't there. I'm just saying, in terms of the stratosphere
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Speaker 2: of war, he took it in the eighties. You can't
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Speaker 2: deny that. I mean, people might not write wrestling, but
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Speaker 2: I'm sure everyone in their grandmother has seen the classic
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Speaker 2: video of Hogan slamming the Giant. Yes, spoiler alert, ladies
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Speaker 2: and gentlemen, was that the first time Andre the Giant
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Speaker 2: was slammed. No, was Andre the Giant seven hundred and
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Speaker 2: fifty pounds or whatever he said in Chicago. No, which,
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Speaker 2: by the way, if you watch it on television, Jim
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Speaker 2: Ross even said he was full of shit in a
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Speaker 2: nicer way on television as he said that. But despite
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Speaker 2: all that, as those Hogan tales, as I alluded to earlier,
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Speaker 2: can't deny what he did, not even just for wrestling,
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Speaker 2: just in terms of for entertainment. I mean, the guy was
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Speaker 2: such a polarizing figure that, like Sidney Laupper and like
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Speaker 2: some of these other big Muhammad Alli was involved in
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Speaker 2: the first wrestle media because you know, Hogan had that
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Speaker 2: much star power, drawing power, He was in Rocky three, Thunderlips,
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Speaker 2: like all these things. In terms of pop culture in
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Speaker 2: the eighties, you could not deny like you had. Obviously
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Speaker 2: you had the Lakers, you had the Bears, you had
9:15
Speaker 2: the Niners with their reign of terror. You had all
9:19
Speaker 2: these things. But another thing you could not deny was
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Speaker 2: hul Cogan. And unfortunately, like I said, unfortunately, like the
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Speaker 2: legacy has been tainted. That's probably the best way to
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Speaker 2: say it, because what's happened in the last ten to fifteen years.
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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, it's like you,
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Speaker 2: like whenever someone does pass away in a just health situation,
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Speaker 2: not in a negative way like some other wrestlers. I'm
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Speaker 2: not gonna get into that one. It's pretty obviously you
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Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about. You try to think of
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Speaker 2: the good, or you should think of the good, because
9:50
Speaker 2: trying to think of negative shit, it's not healthy for anybody.
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Speaker 2: I was fortunate enough never met him. I was fortunate
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Speaker 2: to seen him once. Did I see him one? I know,
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Speaker 2: I've only seen him once. I don't think I ever
10:04
Speaker 2: seen him more than once. Yeah, I never saw him
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Speaker 2: more than once, but was fortunateough to see him in
10:11
Speaker 2: Chicago for his return March or end of February early
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Speaker 2: March two thousand and two. Everyone's seen. It's the famous
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Speaker 2: pro between him and Rock for the first time, and
10:24
Speaker 2: like because he came the night before him and the
10:27
Speaker 2: guys came out in WL they did this whole giant
10:29
Speaker 2: schmads or they beat up Boston, not really like a
10:31
Speaker 2: whole like, Hey, the Golden Goose, the essentially Babe. Yeah,
10:36
Speaker 2: if anything, let me ever check it. I said Michael Jordan.
10:40
Speaker 2: He's not Michael Jordan. He's Babe Ruth. When you think
10:43
Speaker 2: of the essentially the birth of baseball, of Major League Baseball,
10:47
Speaker 2: Babe Ruth is the first name that has to come
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Speaker 2: to mind. Regardless of what your opinion is, it's always
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Speaker 2: Babe Ruth. Even today when he would go who's agreeace
10:55
Speaker 2: of all time? Babe Ruth is always in that discussion.
10:59
Speaker 2: That's what a hull again is. He's Babe Ruth of
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Speaker 2: pro wrestling. So now going to what I was saying
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Speaker 2: didn't really get is like grandiose return at the pay
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Speaker 2: per view, just like him and the NW guys jumped
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Speaker 2: Austin Schma's been the next night in Chicago, he got
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Speaker 2: his solo time and it is one of the like
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Speaker 2: I hate and it's one of my top ten favorite
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Speaker 2: moments it mean of things I've seen, because it was
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Speaker 2: that hole, like, hey, this guy's been gone for let
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Speaker 2: me figure at the time, what was it nine years
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Speaker 2: he left nine to ten years prior went to the
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Speaker 2: competition almost destroyed the WWE. But then I'm not even
11:37
Speaker 2: getting into the whole debacle of how WCW died. It's
11:39
Speaker 2: only been told a thousand times. You can just type
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Speaker 2: in the death of WCW on YouTube and you'll find
11:46
Speaker 2: one of one hundred productions that the w or random
11:48
Speaker 2: YouTube channel has made. Spoiler They all are the same,
11:55
Speaker 2: just a bunch of political bullshit, which is kind of funny,
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Speaker 2: especially in today's environment anyway. But yeah, that was a moment.
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Speaker 2: I'll never forget just how loud it was, how just
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Speaker 2: And again I know that it gets thrown a lot,
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Speaker 2: way too much the ore of it, just because, like
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Speaker 2: I said, like this was literally at that time, you
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Speaker 2: had essentially, in wrestling terms, you had the Michael Jordan,
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Speaker 2: the Magic Johnson's, the Shack. You had all those guys
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Speaker 2: in that system at once. But then you had Babe
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Speaker 2: Ruth was walking in and it just everything just stopped.
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Speaker 2: Everything just stopped, you know. His essentially his return was
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Speaker 2: only short lived. Think he was only back for like
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Speaker 2: what four months, and then he took a break, came
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Speaker 2: back for one medium he was pretty much done after that.
12:40
Speaker 2: I like little like stints where he would just show
12:41
Speaker 2: up for like a little pop here and there, But
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Speaker 2: it was just this moment of silence moment sounds just
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Speaker 2: a moment of just like everyone had forgotten everything that
12:50
Speaker 2: had happened in the last ten years and we're just
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Speaker 2: happy to see Babe Ruth back in Yankee Stadium. That's
12:56
Speaker 2: the best way to say it. Or help Babe Ruth
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Speaker 2: back in Fenomway popcause that's where he first was from.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, it is sad that he passed away. It's
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Speaker 2: like I said, just try not to just look up
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Speaker 2: Hull Cogan like highlights and stuff on you too is
13:17
Speaker 2: unfortunately you look up any like Hull Cogan interviews or
13:20
Speaker 2: Hull Colcan articles, all you're gonna see is half of
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Speaker 2: it is just negative. And again I mean unfortunately, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: can you talk about his entire legacy as Hull Hogan
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Speaker 2: just focused on our So no, because actually in some
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Speaker 2: of some of the legacies tainted to buy some of
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Speaker 2: stuff he did politic and allegedly with some of the
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Speaker 2: decisions he made up. I mean, as I literally just
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Speaker 2: look up any video, just look up star K ninety
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Speaker 2: seven and yeah and Bash at the Beach two thousand.
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Speaker 2: It's all I need to say, and you'll have a
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Speaker 2: thousand more videos to look at of why shit was weird?
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Speaker 2: But again, in my opinion is like, is he and
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Speaker 2: my Mount Rushmore. No, but like if there's like a
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Speaker 2: if you do, certainly, just like a Mount Rushmore, w
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Speaker 2: he has to be on it because without him, there
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Speaker 2: is no awesome. Without him, there help Without him, there's
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Speaker 2: no Dwayne the Rock Johnson. It's just a fact because yeah,
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Speaker 2: sure the Rocks dad was a wrestler. The Rock's grandfather
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Speaker 2: was a wrestler. But like Hull, Cogan has essentially put essentially,
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Speaker 2: hul Cogan made essentially like how Walt Disney made Walt Disney,
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Speaker 2: how George Lucas made Star Wars, hulll Cogan made ww Sure,
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Speaker 2: vinceick Man created ww but in order to create In
14:37
Speaker 2: order for George Lucas to create Star Wars, he had
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Speaker 2: to create Darth Vader. In order for Walt Disney to
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Speaker 2: create Disney, he had to create Mickey Mouse. And for
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Speaker 2: vincick Man to create WWF, he had to create hul Cogan. So, uh,
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Speaker 2: this one goes out to the Hawks. No, I am
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Speaker 2: not drinking his beer. I know I did like a drink.
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Speaker 2: Short review did not like it. Everyone has their opinion.
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Speaker 2: Actually I can't remember who I know. I talked to
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Speaker 2: someone who actually actually thought it wasn't that bad. But regardless,
15:11
Speaker 2: you see a wrestling fan, just give him a little
15:13
Speaker 2: ear pose. Just put your hand to your ear, act
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Speaker 2: like you're trying to listen, like you know what I mean. Again,
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Speaker 2: as I've said, I'm proud to be part of these
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Speaker 2: two fandoms. But I think there it's like my catchphrase
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Speaker 2: at this point, I think I am part of the
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Speaker 2: two most awesome but also yet toxic fandoms in all
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Speaker 2: the world, that being wrestling in Star Wars, and we
15:31
Speaker 2: need to get better about it. Obviously the last couple
15:33
Speaker 2: of Star Wars has gotten a lot better with especially
15:35
Speaker 2: That's what happens when when this stuff is good, everyone
15:38
Speaker 2: is happy, everyone is nice, everyone gets along. But then
15:43
Speaker 2: when anyone doesn't like anything, it's not like, oh hey,
15:46
Speaker 2: I don't like that, I disagree with you, it's.
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Speaker 3: Fuck you, you.
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Speaker 4: Suck, You're an asshole, And it's like all I said
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Speaker 4: was I like, I like I like the prequels, or
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Speaker 4: all I said was I didn't think.
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Speaker 2: I don't think an Dady's doing that hot right now.
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Speaker 2: But it's not like, oh I don't I disagree, Great, cool,
16:05
Speaker 2: good for you. Let's have a conversation about it. Instead
16:08
Speaker 2: of have a conversation, it's like, no, fuck you, you're wrong.
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Speaker 2: You suck. It's like, oh cool, thanks, but no no,
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Speaker 2: uh so jeerous little halkster. Yeah, it just it sucks.
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Speaker 2: This is like one of those ones where you kind
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Speaker 2: of I'm not gonna say, question your old mortonic. It's
16:29
Speaker 2: also like it's also like one of those ones where
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Speaker 2: you go, wow, man, I like it. Yeah, we're not
16:33
Speaker 2: getting any younger. Because again I didn't. Obviously I was.
16:37
Speaker 2: I didn't. I was a WWF kid growing up, so
16:39
Speaker 2: I really didn't watch a lot of bc W. Like
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Speaker 2: I knew of it. I knew who Hulk Hogan was.
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Speaker 2: But then it wasn't until he started to come back
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Speaker 2: is when I really got into it, Like, oh yeah,
16:47
Speaker 2: because every because that's the thing. When when he left
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Speaker 2: for w CW, they didn't talk about him on WF.
16:52
Speaker 2: Oh no, the only anytime they got a chance, they
16:54
Speaker 2: bury his ask no fucking question. Oh they bury his ass.
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Speaker 2: But then when he came back and he start to
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Speaker 2: you know, you actually get telling him like oh, actually, yeah,
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Speaker 2: this is the guy that was the guy before Austin.
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Speaker 2: This was the guy before Brett Hart and it's like
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Speaker 2: this was the old this was Babe Ruth and like
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Speaker 2: you're like, oh yeah, Babe Ruth is kind of cool.
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Speaker 2: So so yeah, So despite everything that came out here,
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Speaker 2: as I'll end up with the Hulk Hogan thing, say
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Speaker 2: your viains, say your prayers, Huggle huggle, not even a
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Speaker 2: hulk a man, just hug a wrestling fan, because yeah,
17:30
Speaker 2: we could use it right now because we lost one
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Speaker 2: of the I mean we lost we essentially lost the one,
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Speaker 2: the original one, if you will, So one more time,
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Speaker 2: here's to the hulkster salude pros cheers. I know everyone
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Speaker 2: likes to say rest in peace. I always like this.
17:49
Speaker 2: I like to say rest in power because some people
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Speaker 2: just like their this, their life can't beat tonight and
17:57
Speaker 2: I and I think most everyone's life can't beat the night.
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Speaker 2: And I was like, you know, essentially, when you go
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Speaker 2: to whatever you believe in, when you go to the
18:04
Speaker 2: next life, don't be at peace, have fun, go crazy.
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Speaker 2: So anyway, now that we're done with that, about fifteen
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Speaker 2: minutes later, h let's get to the sup review. It's
18:16
Speaker 2: been a minute, damn it's good. So yes, uh Superman,
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Speaker 2: no kidding, Yes, I had not seen Superman. From what
18:26
Speaker 2: I've gathered from the news, that really isn't anything too
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Speaker 2: spoil So that's good at least because I haven't seen anything,
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Speaker 2: especially in the circles and the things I read, so
18:34
Speaker 2: that's good. But it's got good reviews, which I'm glad
18:38
Speaker 2: Fantastic four. So before we get further, here's your spoiler warning,
18:44
Speaker 2: because I'm not a dick. Directed by Matt Shackman, who
18:52
Speaker 2: also made the WandaVision show, I don't think. I don't
18:55
Speaker 2: be doing anything else for Marvel. I can't understand. I
18:57
Speaker 2: can't remember starring Pedro Pesca. It was mister Fantastic, which
19:03
Speaker 2: I will say before again to my thoughts in the film.
19:06
Speaker 2: If you know, if you want to learn about the
19:08
Speaker 2: crazy thing about mister Fantastic with this film, just look
19:12
Speaker 2: back at the production history because so many people were
19:14
Speaker 2: alleged to be mister Fantastic. First, it was obviously the
19:17
Speaker 2: rumor everyone want. Everyone fancasted John Krazinski, which then I
19:20
Speaker 2: mean spoiler. They gave us that bone in uh Doctor
19:23
Speaker 2: Strange multi verse as Madness, where they had him be
19:25
Speaker 2: mister Fantastic in an ultra universe for five minutes and
19:28
Speaker 2: then he got his asking and at one point who
19:31
Speaker 2: else was it? Adam Driver? That Kylo running from Star
19:34
Speaker 2: Wars was one.
19:37
Speaker 1: O.
19:38
Speaker 2: There's another big name I can't remember, but yeah, John Krazinsky,
19:42
Speaker 2: Adam Driver, Like those were two big names. Oh it's
19:46
Speaker 2: really good. I know there's another big name anyway, but yeah,
19:50
Speaker 2: and then uh, Pedro Pascal was casted, and everyone's like,
19:52
Speaker 2: what Pedro Pascal. I mean, everyone knows Petro Pascal. I mean,
19:55
Speaker 2: christ you typing Patro Pascal. There's I mean, just TikTok videos.
19:57
Speaker 2: People join over him, man and women. I can't believe. No,
20:01
Speaker 2: it's a very handsome man. So if you know anything
20:06
Speaker 2: about the Fantastic Four though, so this is kind of
20:08
Speaker 2: the Deadpool thing where for years they were in the
20:11
Speaker 2: Fox umbrella, where essentially Fox had the film rights to it,
20:15
Speaker 2: and they made three films and all critically and I'm
20:23
Speaker 2: not gonna say all, but the majority, the unanimous feeling
20:30
Speaker 2: on all of them were they suck. There were two
20:37
Speaker 2: in the mid two thousands actually, with Chris Sevens as
20:39
Speaker 2: a human torch and Jessica Alba as a visible girl.
20:42
Speaker 2: I can't remember who the other two guys were. They
20:45
Speaker 2: played fantastic and the thing. They were okay, but they
20:50
Speaker 2: weren't good. And then they did one in the early
20:56
Speaker 2: twenty tens with Miles Teller. I believe Kate Mara Michael B.
21:00
Speaker 2: Jordan was the human torch and don't don't watch it,
21:06
Speaker 2: just don't watch it. Just don't watch it. You go
21:09
Speaker 2: to if you want to piss off a Marvel fan,
21:11
Speaker 2: just go It's fantastic. They'll know exactly what you mean.
21:15
Speaker 2: They're probably gonna be a middle finger. Oh god, thankful
21:19
Speaker 2: I didn't see that one in the theater. That was
21:20
Speaker 2: one I almost did, and thankfully I had some compitalized
21:23
Speaker 2: I remember what it was. Obviously a lot more important
21:25
Speaker 2: and better than that. Anyway, all film was subjective, though,
21:28
Speaker 2: of course, so this movie, so yeah, so PHANTAISTI four
21:30
Speaker 2: has been essentially the best way to say it. You
21:34
Speaker 2: have all these superhero movies. Obviously there isn't like really
21:38
Speaker 2: a whole like, oh, well, here's how it worked out previously.
21:40
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously with X Men, there's that Batman, there's
21:42
Speaker 2: that Spider Man, there's that Superman, there's that. But with
21:45
Speaker 2: the Fantastic four, it's been not like, oh it's hit
21:48
Speaker 2: or miss it's been unanimously like, oh this sucks, good
21:51
Speaker 2: fucking luck. So spoiler, this movie's fucking awesome. So how
22:02
Speaker 2: does it pertain to the MCU. It really doesn't because
22:06
Speaker 2: right away they don't explain why, which I actually kind
22:09
Speaker 2: of appreciate. It takes place in a different universe. They're like, oh,
22:13
Speaker 2: Gray more multiverse shit, yes, but in this one there
22:16
Speaker 2: is They barely mentioned multiverse. The only thing that says,
22:18
Speaker 2: the only thing is it's not Earth. What does Marvel
22:21
Speaker 2: call themselves? Eight two eight? It's not sixty two sick.
22:23
Speaker 2: I think it's like eighty one to eight. This is
22:24
Speaker 2: Earth eight two eight or something like that. Completely different universe.
22:29
Speaker 2: And obviously we've seen the Fantastic Four movies, you know
22:33
Speaker 2: how they get their powers. What I liked about this
22:36
Speaker 2: Instead of spending forty five minutes to an hour doing
22:38
Speaker 2: this bullshit, it's literally like a ten minute intro. And
22:41
Speaker 2: by the way, this movie, I say, I will say
22:44
Speaker 2: this is the best use a Disney own affiliated or
22:50
Speaker 2: property rather has used in terms of using IP. There's
22:53
Speaker 2: a much of ABC, not even references, just cameos. If
22:58
Speaker 2: you will ABC network in here. There's a there's some
23:01
Speaker 2: other ones too, and it's just like, what this is
23:04
Speaker 2: fucking weird, and it's even though it takes you know,
23:07
Speaker 2: like it takes place now, but in this universe there's
23:09
Speaker 2: still like in the nineteen sixties, but they're way more
23:13
Speaker 2: advanced than any other multiverse, universe or dimension rather, you
23:19
Speaker 2: know what I mean, which is actually kind of cool.
23:21
Speaker 2: So essentially just think like the nineteen sixties, but they're
23:23
Speaker 2: in the they're in terms of technological adventage in like
23:26
Speaker 2: twenty fifty, which is crazy. Yeah. No, this movie was fantastic,
23:33
Speaker 2: not even two hours. I think it's like an hour
23:35
Speaker 2: forty and it was one of those movies where I
23:38
Speaker 2: left and I wanted more. Pedro Pascal was fantastic. Vanessa
23:44
Speaker 2: Kirby is a visible girl. His wife was fantastic. I mean,
23:47
Speaker 2: if you've read all the interviews they've been there's something
23:49
Speaker 2: by the way. People by the way. Also, if you're
23:51
Speaker 2: sitting on Petro Pascal because anxiety, go fuck yourself. So
23:53
Speaker 2: there's that. This is some good bourbon. I'm not even
23:59
Speaker 2: get a touch on you gonna touch that subject. They obviously,
24:02
Speaker 2: you know, have talked about how to handle that stuff.
24:05
Speaker 2: So if you're gonna make fun of his thing. You
24:07
Speaker 2: can kiss my ass. But yeah, the film was just fantastic.
24:12
Speaker 2: The story was good even even though it's his grandiose
24:16
Speaker 2: cosmic space scale. Galactus is like, again, I really don't
24:21
Speaker 2: know Galactus that well, but like in terms of like
24:23
Speaker 2: characters of Marvel's superhero villains, he is in that s
24:28
Speaker 2: tier of like big batty dudes, and I thought they
24:32
Speaker 2: did a pretty it was weird. The only thing I
24:35
Speaker 2: will say this, here's the one thing so essentially Galactus
24:38
Speaker 2: essentially is I don't they never say this celestial which
24:42
Speaker 2: we've seen the terms of. Essentially, it's the giant dude
24:44
Speaker 2: to walk through the galaxy. They can eat plants and shit,
24:47
Speaker 2: So essentially he is, but he's not. He's just in
24:52
Speaker 2: a giant. He's a giant who's in a giant giant
24:56
Speaker 2: ship that essentially is like the death Star but instead
25:00
Speaker 2: of like blasting planets and eats them. So it's like, okay,
25:03
Speaker 2: that's cool. But then this is the one thing that
25:06
Speaker 2: weirded me out was and I get why. So essentially
25:08
Speaker 2: the story is mister Fantastic and sus Storm visit Bolgri
25:13
Speaker 2: woman have a kid, and Galactus wants them because apparently
25:17
Speaker 2: this kid is fucking powerful, which for reasons because the
25:20
Speaker 2: cosmic energy, which it all makes sense to the space shit.
25:23
Speaker 2: And the thing I like is like, essentially, if you've
25:25
Speaker 2: seen the other Fantastic Four movies, you kind of get
25:28
Speaker 2: like the little like, oh, I get like who this
25:29
Speaker 2: character is and stuff like that. But like if you
25:31
Speaker 2: even if you haven't, that was the best part. If
25:34
Speaker 2: you haven't seen any of the movies, you could have
25:38
Speaker 2: gone to this movie and not watch a single Marvel
25:40
Speaker 2: movie and you would understand everything going on. And that's
25:45
Speaker 2: what I loved about it. It was simple, It went
25:48
Speaker 2: right to the point. It was literally the first ten minutes,
25:51
Speaker 2: here's who they are, Here's how they got their powers,
25:53
Speaker 2: Here's what the world is. Here's what this world is
25:56
Speaker 2: in compared to other Marvel movies, which obviously, if you
25:58
Speaker 2: see the other movies, you.
25:59
Speaker 3: Know what they are.
26:00
Speaker 2: Other I mean, it's only one world. If you know
26:01
Speaker 2: the other Marvel movies are, you know what that world is.
26:04
Speaker 2: But here's this world, and it's different, cool action, and
26:06
Speaker 2: it was just NonStop just like not insulting your intelligence,
26:11
Speaker 2: and it was just upon a tenth third time fantastic Yeah,
26:18
Speaker 2: and I just I love Like I said, it was
26:20
Speaker 2: just it was nice to not have. Because that's the
26:23
Speaker 2: problem with the current state of the MCU is there's
26:27
Speaker 2: been so many movies. But the thing that was successful
26:30
Speaker 2: about the whole Infinity Stones was you always knew where
26:35
Speaker 2: it was heading after the fourth or fifth movie, because
26:39
Speaker 2: they's like, oh, here here's standos. Okay, he's obviously going
26:43
Speaker 2: to the Infinity Stones, but not every movie was like
26:46
Speaker 2: Infinity so Infinity Stone thingie, so they would make reference
26:48
Speaker 2: to it, but every reference was a run on the ladder.
26:51
Speaker 2: It was going up to grab that title, slowly going up.
26:54
Speaker 2: And then when we got to Infinity War, akay fanals
26:57
Speaker 2: the movie you knew, you knew why. Even if you
27:01
Speaker 2: hadn't seen all the movies prior to Infinity War and Endgame,
27:06
Speaker 2: if you had seen a couple, especially just any of
27:07
Speaker 2: the Avengers movies, you knew exactly where it was going.
27:13
Speaker 2: And that's how this movie was, like you knew from
27:15
Speaker 2: start to end. You knew why go actors going after
27:17
Speaker 2: the kid, You knew who was who, why the people
27:22
Speaker 2: care about them, why they're superheroes, and all this stuff.
27:25
Speaker 2: Even like the side villains in the movie like Moleman,
27:27
Speaker 2: which was fucking fantastic by Paul Walter Howserd who was phenomenal.
27:31
Speaker 2: You know, he's in an only for a couple of minutes.
27:32
Speaker 2: It's just And that's what the superhero movies are supposed
27:35
Speaker 2: to be. It's supposed to be not saying quick, but
27:37
Speaker 2: it's supposed to be like, hey, here's your hero, here's
27:40
Speaker 2: the story, here's the bad guy. Go oh, and maybe
27:44
Speaker 2: there'll be a sequel. That's it. That's why I love
27:50
Speaker 2: the movie Thunderbolts so much in terms of like hero tier,
27:53
Speaker 2: like probably in the C category, but like, here's your
27:58
Speaker 2: here's your cat, here's your ensemble of actually essentially of
28:04
Speaker 2: mercenary villains. Here's why they're all here, here's the plot,
28:09
Speaker 2: here's the twist, here's the end. Oh, and here's where
28:12
Speaker 2: it's going.
28:14
Speaker 3: Cool.
28:15
Speaker 2: And I think Marvel has just been on thankfully, they've
28:19
Speaker 2: been on a good rise of just consistently having good movies,
28:26
Speaker 2: because what last year we had Deadpool Wolverine, which even
28:29
Speaker 2: that movie really didn't connect to the MCU other than
28:32
Speaker 2: a quick TVA mentioned a little brief mention of Deadpool
28:36
Speaker 2: going to the MCU universe, which they never explained how
28:40
Speaker 2: he got there, but that's neither here nor there. And
28:44
Speaker 2: then you got oh damn, it's good, and then you
28:46
Speaker 2: got Thunderbolts and you got this movie, and it was
28:48
Speaker 2: just it was just nice that, like for when it's
28:52
Speaker 2: nice that finally, of course under Kevin Faigie and like
28:54
Speaker 2: Matt Shack, was really good that they finally got the
28:57
Speaker 2: fantastic form over, because that was the problem with the
29:00
Speaker 2: one is like they were always trying to explain, here's
29:03
Speaker 2: who these guys are. We're gonna take an hour to
29:04
Speaker 2: explain to you how they got their power. It's like
29:06
Speaker 2: we don't need that. Everyone knows that, and even people
29:08
Speaker 2: like James Gonna recently set an interview because obviously this
29:10
Speaker 2: is DC now, and he said he doesn't want to
29:13
Speaker 2: see some movies anymore, and he's one hundred percent right.
29:15
Speaker 2: We don't need to see the Waynes get shot with
29:18
Speaker 2: the pearls falling everywhere. We don't need to see a
29:20
Speaker 2: spider biting Peter. I second that because I'm a pussy
29:25
Speaker 2: and I hate spiders. And third, I think he I
29:27
Speaker 2: think I think it was we don't need to see
29:29
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we don't see kell Out leave Krypton, Clarkent
29:31
Speaker 2: leave Krypton because we own the plant blows up. There's
29:35
Speaker 2: been how many sets of movies where we see That's
29:37
Speaker 2: what I see about the Tom Howland Spider May movies.
29:39
Speaker 2: We never see him get his powers. It's just here's
29:42
Speaker 2: Spider Man. Cool, thank you, because everyone of their mother
29:47
Speaker 2: knows how it works, and if they don't, it literally
29:49
Speaker 2: takes two minutes for someone to explain to them, not
29:53
Speaker 2: half an hour. But yeah, getting back to The Fantastic Four,
29:57
Speaker 2: just the action, the chemistry, not even just some months.
30:01
Speaker 2: Pedro and Venza just a months to four of them obviously,
30:05
Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna spoil this part. If you watch
30:07
Speaker 2: the Bear when the thing's making pasta you'll get a
30:10
Speaker 2: reference right away. Thankfully, a few people in the theater
30:14
Speaker 2: I was with or actually laughed because when that happened,
30:16
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, I was like, here, that's
30:18
Speaker 2: obviously a reference. Yeah, but now in terms of where
30:23
Speaker 2: it's going, so and here's my one here's my one
30:28
Speaker 2: con in the film. I'm saying my one negative in
30:30
Speaker 2: the film, other than I wish it was longer because
30:32
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it that much, or too rightly because I
30:35
Speaker 2: thought I thought Galactus would be more of a I'm
30:39
Speaker 2: not gonna say, I'm not gonna say a battie, but
30:41
Speaker 2: like I thought, with how it's well normal, Galactus is
30:46
Speaker 2: a very strong villain. The way he lost. If you watch,
30:50
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna spoil it because the way he lost
30:51
Speaker 2: is pretty cool, but let's just say this invisible girl
30:54
Speaker 2: essentially beats him. But it's like, okay, if you're that powerful,
30:59
Speaker 2: why didn't we come to that conclusion either? But then,
31:02
Speaker 2: but to play Devil's advocate, what happens after the battle
31:07
Speaker 2: makes all the more sense, like, oh, okay, I get why.
31:11
Speaker 2: And then that's the thing because again, right away, with
31:12
Speaker 2: the way the battle ends, you're like, wait, that's how
31:16
Speaker 2: it ends. That doesn't make any sense. But then it's like,
31:18
Speaker 2: oh wait, but then you understand why it ended that way.
31:20
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, they want to explain, there's just one
31:22
Speaker 2: little thing to happen, like, oh, that makes a hundre
31:23
Speaker 2: percent sense. My other caveat was so they obviously spoiler.
31:31
Speaker 2: They defeat Galactus. And if you saw the post credit
31:37
Speaker 2: in Thunderbolts, which is the main Marvel universe, it ends
31:43
Speaker 2: with the New Avengers seeing a ship come into space
31:48
Speaker 2: and it's a Fantastic four. You don't see him, you
31:51
Speaker 2: just see the ship with the four on it. But
31:53
Speaker 2: in this movie they don't show how that ship gets there.
31:56
Speaker 2: All the show is it's four years later. Franklin the
31:59
Speaker 2: kid is now a little older. Sue Storm physical Sustorm
32:04
Speaker 2: is getting like a sandwich or someone for Franklin, and
32:07
Speaker 2: then she walks in the living room and there's a
32:09
Speaker 2: green hooded guy with a mask next one you don't
32:11
Speaker 2: see his face, honestly, being doctor Doom. I kind of
32:15
Speaker 2: figured he was gonna pop in because like Doctor Doom
32:17
Speaker 2: and a Fantastic four, it's like Batman and Joker. It's
32:20
Speaker 2: just like you gotta have a you gotta have a reference. Which,
32:22
Speaker 2: by the way, I'm not gonna spoil this for people.
32:26
Speaker 2: There's a conference where Suestorm is trying to plead to
32:28
Speaker 2: the world leaders that they need their help with this
32:30
Speaker 2: plan they're gonna do the defeat Galactus. If you watch it,
32:33
Speaker 2: there's one country not there. Wink wink, nudge, nudge. If
32:37
Speaker 2: you know, you know which was actually right away. I
32:39
Speaker 2: was like, I saw what you did there. But some guy,
32:42
Speaker 2: some guy behind me was like where aren't they there, Like,
32:44
Speaker 2: come on, bro anyway, So oh yeah, post credit scene,
32:53
Speaker 2: so that there was that was the thing. That was
32:55
Speaker 2: the thing I was surprised about. The doctor Doom quick cameo.
32:59
Speaker 2: You know, you don't showed Downy's face. They just showed
33:01
Speaker 2: the green hood in the mask, and you know exactly
33:02
Speaker 2: what is in Franklin's Like that was a creepy thing.
33:05
Speaker 2: Franklin's like reaching up to his face but you don't see,
33:07
Speaker 2: which was really fucking creepy because it's like a spin
33:09
Speaker 2: of like twenty seconds, like Sue's reading him a book.
33:13
Speaker 2: She gets up to grab him something to eat or
33:14
Speaker 2: something or another book. She goes to grab another book,
33:17
Speaker 2: I think, and she comes back, but she can tell
33:21
Speaker 2: something's off because Franklin's on the couch and then you
33:23
Speaker 2: see the green hood. That was the mid credit scene
33:28
Speaker 2: essentially in terms of post credit scenes, because this is
33:30
Speaker 2: set up your future. This is Thanos getting the gauntlet.
33:33
Speaker 2: This is a Nick Curius saying have you heard about
33:35
Speaker 2: the Avenger Initiative? Okay, I tell the Avenger and the
33:38
Speaker 2: Avenger Initiative come on voice actually, come on, good to
33:40
Speaker 2: get out do it now. Sorry, we'll hype it up.
33:43
Speaker 2: It to a good movie. Then there's the after credit scene.
33:50
Speaker 2: And I hadn't read anything on spoilers. I knew there
33:54
Speaker 2: was a rumor allegedly that the Doctor Doom was. I mean,
33:58
Speaker 2: if you if you want to see what you knew
33:59
Speaker 2: too up at some point or at least a brief mention,
34:05
Speaker 2: I had a hunch Doctor to be in the post
34:06
Speaker 2: credit scene, but it was the mid credit scene, so
34:11
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like, okay, So essentially you showed the big
34:15
Speaker 2: Baddie in the middle of the credits, so it's usually
34:18
Speaker 2: you Usually you would want the mid credit to be
34:22
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, not as significant as the post credit.
34:25
Speaker 2: You want to be like, oh hey, you might want
34:27
Speaker 2: to stay an extra two minutes. But the post credit
34:30
Speaker 2: scene was just and it was I'm not gonna lie.
34:32
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. It was cute, but afterwards, even a
34:34
Speaker 2: guy behind me goes, really they because obviously in their
34:39
Speaker 2: universe of Fantastic Four celebrities essentially essentially think of the
34:41
Speaker 2: they're like the boys, but they're actually not assholes and
34:44
Speaker 2: they are good people. That's probably the best way to
34:46
Speaker 2: describe them. But the post credit scene is literally just
34:51
Speaker 2: in their universe. They also have a cartoon of the
34:54
Speaker 2: Fantastic Four Adventures and just a cartoon intro and then
34:57
Speaker 2: the robot assist in Herbie turns it.
34:59
Speaker 4: Off and I was like, okay, like that should like
35:08
Speaker 4: that should have been the mid credits scene.
35:10
Speaker 2: And then you ended with the doctor Doom appearance because
35:14
Speaker 2: everyone knows zach Ar dooms and Dooms. I mean, it's
35:16
Speaker 2: what they called Avengers Doomsday. It's been all over the papers.
35:19
Speaker 2: They did a whole thing where doctor Robert Downey Junior
35:21
Speaker 2: came out and said it's me bitches. He didn't say
35:23
Speaker 2: it's me bitches, but pretty much said it with his
35:25
Speaker 2: expercial expressions. It's Downy for Crisake, Oscar Winner. So yeah,
35:29
Speaker 2: that's my one major gripe with this, Like you should
35:32
Speaker 2: have switched the post credit scene because I remember like
35:34
Speaker 2: even like after that, I was like and a guy
35:36
Speaker 2: said the guy behind me was like really, it's like
35:39
Speaker 2: not you should That's that's again that's nitpick. I mean,
35:42
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say it's nitpicking, because like that's a
35:45
Speaker 2: pretty important thing to show, but it's like, you're really
35:47
Speaker 2: gonna show that and then show a cartoon song like Okay,
35:52
Speaker 2: it's an interesting choice, but yeah, it was a I
35:58
Speaker 2: want to say, this is my m hmm. I think
36:01
Speaker 2: it's I have this weird diffusion thing in my own desk.
36:03
Speaker 2: It smells smells weird. Anyway, it was an interesting choice
36:08
Speaker 2: for them to do that. Overall, though I really enjoyed
36:13
Speaker 2: this movie. I'm really looking forward to see what they
36:16
Speaker 2: do with because I believe, I think, and that's that's
36:19
Speaker 2: gonna be the most interesting thing now Doomsday. I believe
36:24
Speaker 2: it's either Doomsday or Spider Man. I want to say
36:27
Speaker 2: it's Spider Man because I think, yeah, I think dooms that
36:29
Speaker 2: got moved to the next Christmas. I don't have the
36:31
Speaker 2: schedule front of me, but essentially it's Spider Man's filming
36:34
Speaker 2: right now, and they're filming both the Avengers movies right now,
36:38
Speaker 2: and I think it riginly supposed to be Doomsday Spider
36:40
Speaker 2: Man Secret Wars, but not. I think it's Spider Man,
36:42
Speaker 2: Avengers Avengers. So it's gonna be really interesting because I
36:45
Speaker 2: think Spider Man is the last movie four Avengers. But
36:48
Speaker 2: it's like with Infinity War and Endgame, even hell, even
36:55
Speaker 2: with the first two Avengers with Age of Ultron. Other
36:57
Speaker 2: than like obviously Ultron like you knew, you knew where
37:00
Speaker 2: were going and or you knew what was gonna happen.
37:03
Speaker 2: This you not only you don't know what's gonna happen,
37:06
Speaker 2: you don't know what's the point. Everyone knew, Okay, fantas
37:11
Speaker 2: to go over the Infinity Stones for reasons which they
37:13
Speaker 2: explained throughout the course of the movies. And honestly, the
37:17
Speaker 2: Cane thing didn't work out, which is more even more
37:19
Speaker 2: interesting thing was kind of you said this week was
37:20
Speaker 2: that even before the whole Jonathan Major's allegations can't what
37:24
Speaker 2: I'm not get into, they were actually already looking to
37:26
Speaker 2: move on from Kane actually, and and they apparently have
37:29
Speaker 2: been talking to Downey for over a year about Doctor Doom.
37:33
Speaker 2: So allegedly, but I mean, he said it in an article.
37:35
Speaker 2: But so I'm gonna say allegedly because it's probably like
37:38
Speaker 2: three four months. To be honest, it was probably sick.
37:40
Speaker 2: We'll call it, we'll call it, we'll call it down
37:41
Speaker 2: in the middle, we'll say it's six. That's not exactly
37:43
Speaker 2: math from three to four tweet year, but fucking everyone
37:46
Speaker 2: knows a bet at math anyway, So yeah, that that's
37:52
Speaker 2: almost just because again, it's like, you're essentially gonna have
37:54
Speaker 2: to do this movie, which and I'm not gonna spoil it.
37:57
Speaker 2: You know it's been announced it they literally put the
38:00
Speaker 2: fuck we talked about an episode. What was it one
38:02
Speaker 2: to ninety the fucking eight hour video of fucking chairs
38:06
Speaker 2: or No. One eighty seven, Yeah, Marvel's Chairs where they
38:10
Speaker 2: there's eight hours to show a bunch of casting and
38:13
Speaker 2: the majority of the cast was some current Marvel characters
38:17
Speaker 2: or characters from the actual Fox uh Fox x Men movies.
38:22
Speaker 2: So it's like, hmm, what are they doing? So it's
38:24
Speaker 2: gonna be interesting to see what they're doing. It's just
38:28
Speaker 2: it's gonna be it's it's just because the problem the
38:30
Speaker 2: thing I'm worried about with Doomsday and with how some
38:35
Speaker 2: of the post credit scenes have turned out, there's been
38:37
Speaker 2: a again James Gun said that about the post credit
38:39
Speaker 2: scene too. He's only gonna have post credit scenes they
38:41
Speaker 2: actually matter, because since Endgame, there's been a lot of
38:44
Speaker 2: post credits scenes that really have not been necessary or
38:46
Speaker 2: have mattered. Obviously, the one after Miss Marvel's obviously heading
38:50
Speaker 2: the dooms that kind of manners if you think about it.
38:52
Speaker 2: Wink Wake nudge, nudge. But other than that, there really
38:53
Speaker 2: has been that many other than I feel like multiversal references.
38:57
Speaker 2: But it's like you knew where they were all going,
39:00
Speaker 2: but this one it's like you don't know. And it's like, essentially,
39:02
Speaker 2: the thing I'm trying to make is sure, there's technically
39:05
Speaker 2: two A Venders movies, but the problem I think is,
39:10
Speaker 2: I think they're essentially gonna try to do four move
39:12
Speaker 2: four to five movies or stories in two and that
39:17
Speaker 2: could be a problem. Now, not that you can't have
39:20
Speaker 2: these movies be three hours long, which I believe, I
39:24
Speaker 2: know endgame was. If Finnymore might have been closed to
39:26
Speaker 2: three hours, might have been two and a half. You
39:29
Speaker 2: can have them three hours, but like with the amount
39:33
Speaker 2: of characters you're gonna have in these movies, plus by
39:36
Speaker 2: the casting of the first thing, you're you're literally anticipating
39:39
Speaker 2: that the majority of these people are going to remember
39:41
Speaker 2: the Fox stuff or or people are gonna show them
39:45
Speaker 2: that stuff and have to explain the lore of what
39:48
Speaker 2: was the X Men Fox saga, which literally, uh, the good,
39:55
Speaker 2: the bad, and the ugly. It's really the best way,
39:57
Speaker 2: it's literally the best way to say it. I'm not
39:59
Speaker 2: to take drink for that one. That's actually good one.
40:01
Speaker 2: Charles Oh, I said, my government name anyway. But yeah, overall,
40:07
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed this movie. It was just again, it
40:11
Speaker 2: was just nice. It's nice that like and as I said,
40:14
Speaker 2: this is a movie where you could not have seen
40:16
Speaker 2: any Marvel movie prior, any Fantastic Four movie prior, and
40:20
Speaker 2: you can go in and you know all the players
40:26
Speaker 2: in the first ten minutes. You know who the leader is,
40:30
Speaker 2: you know who's the smart one, you know who's the brute,
40:32
Speaker 2: who's the goofy one, you know all of it. You
40:36
Speaker 2: know all their purposes in this story. You know why
40:40
Speaker 2: the antagonist is being who it is there's being who
40:43
Speaker 2: it is, is doing what they're doing. You know all
40:45
Speaker 2: of it in the first twenty minutes. And then you
40:48
Speaker 2: essentially have an hour and a half or an hour
40:50
Speaker 2: twenty of just action and good storytelling. And that's the thing,
40:54
Speaker 2: like I said, like it's hard to have. And I
41:00
Speaker 2: think that's what Guardians of the Galaxy did. You took
41:02
Speaker 2: a story of a bunch of characters who nobody knew,
41:06
Speaker 2: and you made everyone care about them, not even just
41:08
Speaker 2: talking about the other two movies they made. Pust to
41:10
Speaker 2: thee their Avengers movies they're involved in. You had everyone
41:12
Speaker 2: care about all these characters. This, however, you're taking these
41:16
Speaker 2: four characters who, unfortunately their track record is dog shit
41:23
Speaker 2: and you made people care. I mean, I'm saying I'm
41:25
Speaker 2: just speaking for myself, but all the reviews are saying awesome, fantastic.
41:31
Speaker 2: Like again, I saw every.
41:32
Speaker 3: Review hate to be hate the Jewell Pond, but it's
41:35
Speaker 3: like they don't fucking do it be different, but every
41:40
Speaker 3: single like literally they're all good reviews, all great reviews,
41:44
Speaker 3: and like it's just the track record of Fantastic four
41:48
Speaker 3: has not been good.
41:49
Speaker 2: Hell, and I didn't even mention the h I've never
41:51
Speaker 2: seen it. There's like a ninth I think it was
41:52
Speaker 2: like what was the early nineties or eighties, Like they
41:55
Speaker 2: did like a Fantastic four movie too, and it was
41:58
Speaker 2: like essentially a movie that was pretty much made for TV.
42:01
Speaker 2: I don't know if I ever came up. I've never
42:02
Speaker 2: seen it, but like from all accounts, if you look
42:05
Speaker 2: up at video, it literally looks like, oh yeah, they
42:07
Speaker 2: literally made this probably for like a Disney special in
42:09
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two if you look at the photos of it,
42:12
Speaker 2: so yeah, final score. I'm I mean, I know it's
42:19
Speaker 2: probably a Recncy Buias. I'm gonna give it a huh.
42:25
Speaker 2: This is really tough. I'm going to give it nine
42:28
Speaker 2: stretchy pants out of ten. You with the reference when
42:32
Speaker 2: you see the movie again. My one caveat is I
42:37
Speaker 2: thought Galactus at certain points, like I said, I thought
42:40
Speaker 2: he would have been stronger, if that makes sense again,
42:44
Speaker 2: but they explained his size and stuff like that, I
42:46
Speaker 2: thought pretty well, But just like I don't know, it's
42:50
Speaker 2: something just felt off. Buck lacks. And here's the one
42:54
Speaker 2: thing long story stories. He's trying to get the kid.
42:56
Speaker 2: They try to set a trap. He obviously sees just
42:58
Speaker 2: what's annoying He yeah, this is this the one thing
43:00
Speaker 2: that really annoyed me to other than he sees the
43:02
Speaker 2: trap they set for him. He literally just has to
43:05
Speaker 2: step in a square, essentially thinking like they're like, oh,
43:07
Speaker 2: you gotta step up the bear trap. Ha, we're gonna
43:09
Speaker 2: catch you. And as he's about to step in it,
43:12
Speaker 2: he notices the trap and then where they put a
43:17
Speaker 2: decoy baby crib to think, I think it's the baby,
43:20
Speaker 2: but then he knows the baby's over in this direction,
43:22
Speaker 2: and instead of and then he walks to it instead
43:26
Speaker 2: of destroying the trap, when before that he destroyed the
43:31
Speaker 2: other things essentially connected to the trap. If you watch
43:34
Speaker 2: the movie, you understand what I'm saying. That was the
43:36
Speaker 2: one thing I was like, bro, just fucking flick one
43:40
Speaker 2: flick one pod in gg my guy. But that's neither here.
43:45
Speaker 2: Although but but again, it was one of those things
43:47
Speaker 2: where I didn't think about that until after the final battle,
43:52
Speaker 2: because I think about it was like I was like,
43:53
Speaker 2: oh shit, he's yeah, he's he's smarter than that. He's
43:56
Speaker 2: smarter than they think. And after like the big, the
43:58
Speaker 2: big final conclusion, I'm just like, why didn't he just
44:02
Speaker 2: fucking like okay whatever. So one of those things anyway, Yeah,
44:06
Speaker 2: nine chretchy pants out of ten Galactus, like I said,
44:10
Speaker 2: the galactus. So someone felt a little off to me.
44:15
Speaker 2: But I think it's because, like I said, there's that
44:16
Speaker 2: there's that pre stereotype of like what he actually is.
44:20
Speaker 2: And with this movie, I'm not saying the movement and
44:22
Speaker 2: like a bitch. I did not make him look like
44:23
Speaker 2: a bitch. But I was just like I just saw
44:25
Speaker 2: something a little more. But if you watch me, you understand,
44:28
Speaker 2: like why he is the way he is though, and
44:30
Speaker 2: then yeah, just a post credits scene. They just they
44:31
Speaker 2: got to flip flop that because people are leaving, they're
44:35
Speaker 2: not talking about me, They're gonna're gonna talk about Doom.
44:37
Speaker 2: I was talking like, yeah, they ended with a cartoons
44:39
Speaker 2: on like, Okay, that was interesting choice, but hey, whatever,
44:42
Speaker 2: that's their choice. So yeah, uh nine stretchy pants out
44:45
Speaker 2: of ten. Nine uh nine milk, you know, yeah, not
44:49
Speaker 2: not nine churchy pants. Nine chocolate vanilla cookies out of ten.
44:53
Speaker 2: There you go. You'll understand that when you watch a movie.
44:55
Speaker 2: So okay, other than that, so things coming up. So
45:00
Speaker 2: gon at some point do a Subervie for Superman, because
45:02
Speaker 2: that's thing I really want to see. I'm gonna be
45:04
Speaker 2: having a new guest come here soon, our good friend
45:07
Speaker 2: of mine named Alex.
45:07
Speaker 1: We have.
45:08
Speaker 2: I been trying to do this for a while. If
45:12
Speaker 2: you've listened to of the gaming podcasts uh with our
45:15
Speaker 2: my good friend Tim, We've mentioned him a couple of times.
45:17
Speaker 2: So Alex really wants to come out and just shoot
45:19
Speaker 2: the ship, talk to talk, chat, come by fuquick chat.
45:25
Speaker 2: So I be doing that soon, you like said superb
45:26
Speaker 2: for Superman, Gonna be doing a uh, you know, Colockie
45:30
Speaker 2: clock will be coming on O G. Patron will come
45:32
Speaker 2: on soon to talk about some things that he's been
45:34
Speaker 2: doing lately, some big news with his on his end,
45:38
Speaker 2: I'll pop all good stuff of course, and then yeah,
45:41
Speaker 2: so that's pretty much it. Oh and yeah, okay you guys,
45:47
Speaker 2: more updates on the voice acting stuff. As I know
45:49
Speaker 2: that's gonna kick ass. I'm really excited. I'm really enjoying
45:51
Speaker 2: just the the prepping, if that makes sense. Like I know,
45:57
Speaker 2: I know I need I haven't, you know, I haven't
45:59
Speaker 2: in third year. Actually I need to do a sub
46:01
Speaker 2: reviewer F one that needs an episode of itself because
46:04
Speaker 2: that was just an insane movie. I did see F one.
46:06
Speaker 2: It was really good. But yeah, so we'll do a
46:11
Speaker 2: sub review on F one. I'll put that like in though,
46:13
Speaker 2: like in a like talk episode because like it's been
46:17
Speaker 2: a minute when the movie came out. It sounds like
46:19
Speaker 2: a real going want to see a whole listen new
46:20
Speaker 2: whole podcast a week like a month and a half ago.
46:23
Speaker 2: So yeah, Other than that, I really appreciate all of
46:26
Speaker 2: your loving supports. I'd appreciate some of the message ever received,
46:29
Speaker 2: like hey orright, where have you been, what's going on?
46:32
Speaker 2: Maybe come back?
46:33
Speaker 1: So?
46:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, fun stuff there as always. You can find me
46:38
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46:44
Speaker 2: Cantina at gmail dot com. I will have also the
46:48
Speaker 2: voice acting stuff a little once that's all processed and
46:50
Speaker 2: done and good to go here too in the coming weeks.
46:55
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's always like I say, especially in tonight's episode,
46:58
Speaker 2: if you had any drinks, like I'm currently happy this evening,
47:02
Speaker 2: Please be smart, please be saved. Get a friend to
47:05
Speaker 2: come pick you up. First of yeah, call friend, Call friend.
47:08
Speaker 2: If you can't get a friend, call ride share or
47:10
Speaker 2: use a ride share. Worst case, get a taxi. Worst case,
47:14
Speaker 2: just walk smartly. If you can't walk, then obviously get
47:17
Speaker 2: a taxi. Worst case, just sleep on someone's couch, hopefully
47:20
Speaker 2: you know them, because that'd be weird. Some of someone's couch,
47:24
Speaker 2: you know, that'd be really weird, especially when you all
47:25
Speaker 2: wake up next day and they're like, who the fuck
47:27
Speaker 2: are you? I'm only with this house anyway. Yep, again,
47:31
Speaker 2: thank you all very much for elevant support. We will
47:34
Speaker 2: here see you all see other thing. I don't see
47:37
Speaker 2: see you because you can't see you need see me
47:39
Speaker 2: do do do Yeah. Other than that, Yeah, I'm gonna
47:42
Speaker 2: get the fuck out of here. Take care now, bye bye.
47:45
Speaker 2: Then yeah fuck