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Episode 143: Princess Leia, the "Huttslayer" · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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  It's most things Kenobi an elegant.
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  Podcast for a more. Civilized fandom.
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  Hi everyone. Welcome to another episode of
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  Most Things Kenobi, a podcast about Obi Wan Kenobi and all
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  things Star Wars. I'm your host, Lauren.
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  And I'm your host Leanne. This week we are talking about
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  Hut, Slayer, Leia. Which?
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  We've never delved into before. Not a lot of people delve into
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  the fact that she's a bad ass in the way that she killed a
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  goddamn Hut. Yeah, I know.
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  I mean, come on. Those are hard to dispose of.
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  What a way to put it? Well, I mean, you see it through
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  Clone Wars and you know, and you just, they're not easy.
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  They're not easy to deal with to get rid of.
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  We saw it in The Mandalorian too.
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  There's there's huts that he has to deal with.
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  They're just, yes, not easy to dispose of.
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  Well, they're crime Lords, they have a crime syndicate, and
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  they're generally a bit gross. They're slovenly.
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  Yes, yes. And they clearly have no respect
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  for life, since they're they have no problem taking slaves,
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  keeping people as entertainment, feeding them to rank whores,
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  etcetera. Yeah, yeah, they're the they are
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  the seven deadly sins that we talked about, all wrapped up
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  into one giant slug form. Yeah, yes.
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  I do appreciate the fact that George Lucas tried to make what
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  we just described, you know, like this disgusting, like
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  visually disgusting character. All of the bad things that a
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  person could be kind of wrapped up into one and visually,
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  visually unappealing, you know what I mean?
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  Yes, it's like they're outer quote UN quote.
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  Beauty reflects their inner beauty.
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  Like there. Is no inner beauty.
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  So there is no outer beauty, you know, Not that, Not that those
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  things correlate in real life, but in film it's definitely a
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  way to show that. The external sickness, you know,
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  he even has a green slime on his mouth.
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  Yes, he most certainly has an upper respiratory infection.
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  He. Does.
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  Because we don't see that with the other huts.
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  They're not slobbering and drooling and coughing up, you
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  know, like that seems like. Do you need a Do you need some
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  floating inhaler? Yeah.
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  Just, well, a Hut. OK, so a Hut Slayer is a term
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  now, but it was not back in the day.
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  This for those who don't know, it's, you know, Leia in the gold
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  bikini I from Return of the Jedi.
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  And it was originally always referred to as slave Leia and
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  and that was just kind of how it was known.
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  And even Carrie Fisher said that she like came to terms with
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  that, like she was fine with it. She didn't have a problem with
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  it. She chose to reframe that whole
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  era for Leia as a moment of strength, as opposed to like a
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  moment of her being vulnerable and weak and taken as a slave.
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  So then Disney acquires Star Wars in 2012, and they are
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  uncomfortable with the term slave, so they don't like Slave
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  Leia. And they also didn't like the
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  ship slave, a slave one or whatever.
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  Oh yeah. Yeah.
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  Yeah, so they wanted to rename all of this stuff, which Carrie
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  Fisher said was ridiculous. Like she came out and said that
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  she didn't agree with that. She thought it was silly, but
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  Disney kind of, like stuck to their guns and decided to not
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  make any more quote Slave Leia products, right?
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  And a fan is the one who said why don't we reframe it as
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  Hutzler Leia? And then Claudia Gray loved that
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  and wrote it into the book Bloodline, making it Canon.
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  Yes, yes. And I remember reading the book,
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  and I actually have the quote here because I figured it would
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  come up. I remember reading the book and
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  this coming up in the book. And I thought, Oh my God, it's
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  so empowering. The quote goes like this.
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  And it's not. This is not a spoiler alert,
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  doesn't give anything away. So for those who haven't read
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  it, it's not, it's not a big deal.
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  The quote goes like this Hut Slayer Rin Riven breathed in
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  genuine reverence. This is what we call you among
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  ourselves, and it is a far greater title than either
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  Senator or Princess could ever be.
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  The Nicktos know you. For the Warrior, You are Hut
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  Slayer, and you will always have friends among us.
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  Fuck yeah. Yeah 'cause Leia goes to meet
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  this group of people in the story and introduces herself and
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  they say no, you are Hut Slayer to us and that's what you'll
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  always be known as. That's so awesome.
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  And it's like, so fitting. It's, it's great.
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  I mean, it's a hell of a title. I mean it's.
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  Yeah, she. Took a fucking hot down and the
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  way she did it with her own chain.
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  Talk about taking your power back.
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  Yes, I. Love it.
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  Yeah, but she took her the the tool Jabba was using to
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  humiliate her and it became her weapon.
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  Like, yeah, it's so fucking awesome.
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  And how amazing is it that all this other chaos is going on?
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  Luke and Han and and all the things, all the parts are moving
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  and she's well, I'm not just going to stand here.
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  I see an opportunity. He's not going anywhere.
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  Let me climb up this giant body and suffocate his ass.
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  And I love and the way they film it, like her Yankee in his
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  tongue, his tongue, like falling out, it's.
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  So gross. It's so great.
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  It's so good. Yeah.
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  Self rescuing Princess to the very end.
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  To the very end. So fucking good.
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  My God. And like the fact that she's in
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  this kind of vulnerable outfit and she's got like cloth booties
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  on and. Yeah, totally impractical.
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  Yes, my God, I bet it's like, I would just imagine I'd be
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  slipping all over the place. Into Maybe they were good for
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  climbing up on that slimy body of his.
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  Oh God, yeah, that's. So crazy, you know, Disgusting.
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  It is so gross. You know, originally he, George
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  Lucas had kind of planned the huts as humans that had evolved
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  like they had a skin disease and that's how they became huts
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  because. I'm out.
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  Yeah, right. No, it's so gross.
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  I can't do skin conditions. I can't do that.
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  Had he done that, I may not be a fan.
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  To this day, I may not have been able to watch it.
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  Honest to God. Skip all the parts, with Java
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  that is. So I can't.
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  I can't even. Sorry, I've ruined it.
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  I've ruined it now. No, you're fine.
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  It's God. There's a great quote from
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  Claudia Gray about why she wanted to write this in, and she
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  said not only did I like recasting that outfit as a
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  memory of Leia being really strong and kick ass, but think
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  about it. For a human being to kill a Hut
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  with her bare hands, that's unbelievable.
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  Anybody who would be able to pull that off would be
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  remembered for it. That would be a legend.
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  Yes, a legend. Absolutely, Yes.
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  Yeah. It's like when Luke walked into
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  the room with Palpatine and Vader and only one person walked
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  out and that was Luke. That's a legend.
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  That's a fucking legend. Nobody knows what went on in
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  there. I know.
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  And only Luke walked out. And here, Leia's got next to
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  nothing on. Yeah.
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  Bound by 1 chain and she's like I'll take care of this with the
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  strength of hers and she's she's little.
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  It's very it's very Padme. Padme kind of had to take the
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  situation as is and we see her with it.
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  Don't. Doesn't she have a chain in
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  Attack of the Clones? Oh, I don't remember.
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  They're like chained to those pillars, right?
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  Him, Obi Wan, Anakin and her. And she has a chain and she's
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  like Lasso. Kind of.
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  Maybe I'm embellishing it, but like, obviously that's after the
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  fact. But I think that Leia would
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  have, I'm sorry, Padme would have done what she could in that
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  instant. Now Padme is even smaller than
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  Carrie Fisher. I'm doing character names and
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  and human names. Natalie Portman is even more
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  petite than Carrie Fisher, I think, especially in their roles
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  as the character. So maybe, I don't know how that
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  would have worked, but I I think that was the spirit of Padme and
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  shit. Anakin would have done damn near
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  the same. But that's another point of why
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  we're talking about this, because it wasn't just any Hut
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  that Leia killed, right? Perfect segue.
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  Yeah. I mean, she literally killed the
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  Hut that enslaved her father, and her grandmother for that
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  matter. Yeah, poetry.
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  It's beautiful. Beautiful and it's fantastic.
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  Like full circle because Anakin's son is dealing with the
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  rest of them. Anakin's daughter deals with
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  him, and Jabba the Hutt enslaved his Anakin's mother had no
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  respect for anyone, let alone a woman with a child, right?
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  Put her to work, make money off of her, that sort of thing.
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  Try to enslave, literally enslave Leia the same way he
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  enslaved so many others. And she just flipped the switch
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  on him and killed him. And it's great.
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  It's greatly it's symbolically fantastic.
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  Yeah. And it's so much more too, than
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  than just, oh, she killed the Hut.
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  And like, that's that's badass. Like, not only does she
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  basically avenge her father's injustice.
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  She. Breaks the Hut's stranglehold.
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  People argue on the whole Galaxy because at that point they were
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  kind of weaker anyway. And by killing Jabba, he was
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  like one of the last links in a chain.
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  And to have Tatooine no longer under a Hut, which is one of the
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  Outer Rim planets. So all this like crazy backwater
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  gangster stuff was going on. She broke that.
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  And like there there's even moments in the comics, in the
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  Vader comics where Vader goes to Jabba to get information or to
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  like use him somehow. So even the like tie to the
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  Empire there is broken as well. Like, it's just so fucking
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  awesome. So the hell can Vader go to
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  Jabba and just not remember any of it?
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  I know he does, and he has to, like, push it.
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  Deep, deep, deep down. Yeah.
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  How could you? That's.
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  There's so many moments like that, even when he's still
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  Anakin, they rescue Jabba's son. Yeah, I know what what?
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  I'm not getting into it. I'm gonna.
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  There's so many to. Get into it.
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  I guess I can understand a little of it, 'cause if
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  Palpatine is the one moving the pieces and Anakin hasn't turned
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  yet, you can always fall back on.
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  OK, well, we're putting Anakin in a situation that's gonna
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  ignite some fire inside him and some resentment and da da da da
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  da. But as Vader, how do you just
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  shelve that? He it must have been like using
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  like recognizing that he needed him for the greater purpose or
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  whatever that he was using Java for at the time.
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  But that is so not like Anakin or.
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  Vader to see the. Bigger picture, they are like
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  hyper focused. Usually they I'm talking about
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  them like they're two different people.
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  I was. I was gonna bring it up.
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  Perhaps he has to compartmentalize out of
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  necessity. He can't go to Jabba as the
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  person he used to be, the the kid he was once was, that's
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  dead. According to him at this time,
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  that's dead. So if that's the way he can
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  justify, I mean, I don't know. I'm not, I can't do that.
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  Right, I I couldn't either. That would be very difficult and
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  and for him to get so angry with the Zegerians.
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  I know. But then be able to control it
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  in front of Jabba. And even I don't, I don't
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  remember in the Clone Wars movie when they rescue stinky Jabba's.
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  Son. Stinky I don't remember if the
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  Jedi return the sun to Jabba like in person, or if it's just
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  Ahsoka. I don't remember that part, so I
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  don't remember if Anakin actually faces Jabba or is just
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  there on Tatooine. No, I think he's just there.
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  Doesn't he get distracted? And then Ahsoka.
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  He's fighting with Dooku. Yeah, that's what I that's what
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  I was thinking. OK.
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  Yeah. And I think that's when Ahsoka,
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  like, manages to get the baby back.
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  But like the fact that Anakin is doing this, he is.
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  And I saw something that made me laugh out loud on Reddit.
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  It was like Anakin saves Jabba's son, but then Jabba goes to
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  throw Anakin's son into the sarlacc pit.
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  What a Dick move. What a Dick move.
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  I didn't even think of that. What the fuck, Jabba?
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  Oh my God. Zero concern.
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  Zero fucks given for any. That's a take.
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  Take, take, take, take, take, take No.
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  Give 0. Yeah, he has no no moral compass
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  whatsoever. No, no, gross.
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  He's gross. And I'm glad that Leia choked
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  him until his fat tongue fell out of his his mouth.
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  It's just that one detail always, always gets me whenever
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  I see that scene they made. Sure.
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  Well, and I think it's kind of great because he does that
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  really gross thing when he first takes her, where he, like, tries
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  to lick her and licks his lips. So it's like the next time his
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  tongue is sticking out, it's 'cause she killed him.
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  Yes, exactly. And it's embarrassing.
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  He would never be caught dead. Like he's all about the riches
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  and having all of his people and his his slaves around him and
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  food at the ready and stuff, and then he just dies and spews
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  more, you know, saliva. Very undignified.
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  Yeah, it's very undignified and I'm glad I'm here for it.
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  I'm sure he shit himself too. We just didn't see it.
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  I know I had the same thoughts. Were you thinking it?
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  Oh, gross. But it's probably true.
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  I love it. I love it.
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  Salacious got the fuck out of there too.
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  He's like, he seriously gone. Nuts trying to save him?
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  Nope. Done.
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  I'm getting out of this fold. I don't need to be here.
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  So there's an angle to it I kind of want to ask you about,
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  because you read Bloodline and I have.
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  Yeah, but I don't know if I remember all of it well many
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  years ago. But so the the other side of
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  this is, isn't Leia really uncomfortable with knowing she's
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  Vader's daughter? Yes.
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  And in fact, one of my favorite parts of the book is when she
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  comes to the realization that maybe Vader wasn't what she
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  thought. There's a moment where she gets
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  so fucking angry that she has this thought in her head that I
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  could kill everyone in this room as long as this person who's I
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  don't remember the character's name.
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  But he was like the main antagonist, right?
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  She has this thought like, I could kill if.
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  If it would end his reign, I would kill everybody in this
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  room. Like she's really fucking angry.
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  Then she has a pause and she's like, whoa, what if my father?
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  What if his motives weren't totally steeped in, You know,
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  like out of hate it was to stop something worse from happening
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  or to save somebody. And all this stuff, she
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  considers it all in her head and it makes her pause and she's
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  like, Oh no, I don't. I don't.
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  I don't know how I feel about all this.
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  Yeah. Like, I don't know if this is
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  spoilery. This might be a spoiler.
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  So just turn the volume down for like 30 seconds starting now.
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  Bale is the one that admits to her in a voice box in like a
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  music box that has a voice recording and admits to her who
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  her father really was. And that's like something she
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  was supposed to find out long before Luke and all this.
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  Stuff interesting. So it got lost.
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  Someone else found it. That's how they found out.
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  And that's where the drama starts.
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  Oh, interesting. I need to read this book.
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  I haven't read it. It's really political.
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  OK, everyone, you're back. Hi, thanks for turning it down.
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  If you turned it down, it's really political.
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  And some of it drags on. So if you're not into that,
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  which I'm not. Yeah, I'm not either.
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  Skim the first sentence of each paragraph and you'll get the
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  idea. But there's some really great
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  moments of her and Han in this book.
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  There's mention of Ben Solo, There's mention of Bail Organa.
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  There's all kinds of goodies in the book.
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  And of course her in action. There's action scenes with her
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  like still kicking ass, still doing her thing, you know?
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  And then there's tender moments of her, like doing her hair
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  while she's on FaceTime with Han.
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  You know, like. It's.
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  Cute I. I need to read books with
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  something like that. I don't really think I've read
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  anything that has any of the more tender stuff between her
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  and Han. I have the Beth Revis book, but
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  I haven't read it yet so. The wedding of those two.
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  Yeah, I still have to read it. It's on my list.
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  I got a list so long I got to read that Dooku book.
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  I'm going to probably just leave a large to read pile when I die.
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  In your Viking ceremony when you die, there will be a stack of
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  books on the boat. Burn them with me so I can take
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  them into the afterlife. With me?
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  Finish reading everything I don't get to.
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  But yeah, there's there's a list we got to read, but this one
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  should be on it. This one should be on it because
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  there are so many good moments in it.
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  Yeah. And it really shows the mindset
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  of Leia and how she accepts or doesn't accept who Anakin was.
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  Yeah, well, and he well, I think they've referenced this in the
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  book. He tortured her.
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  Yes. It makes their relationship
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  very. Complicated.
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  Very. Complicated.
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  Very. Yeah, I mean, he was not great
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  to his kids. He tortured one, he emotionally
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  tortured the other one and then cut off his hand.
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  It was so they could bond. Yeah, toxic bonding.
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  This was going on there, yeah. Trauma Bonding.
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  Yeah, exactly. But, but it worked out because
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  Luke looked at his hand in that last moment through the through
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  the lightsaber and said I'm not turning into my father.
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  The end. It did work out for the
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  betterment. Because Luke is a good person.
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  Yes, and I'd actually want to talk about Luke just a little
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  bit, because I know this is about Leah and Anakin.
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  But in addition to this, like Luke's family also suffered a
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  lot under Jabba. 100%. And I don't know if this is
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  Canon anymore, but there have been references, and I know
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  there's references in the audio drama, but there might be in in
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  Legends books as well. Then, like Jabba had like a
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  water tax, he would come and take your water.
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  No doubt. I think there's even a reference
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  to like Luke getting beat up by some of their their goons as
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  they come to get water. I don't remember exactly the
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  references, but Luke understands hotties, which maybe doesn't
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  seem significant at first because he's on Tatooine.
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  But unlike Han, who also understands Hattie's, Han's a
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  man of the universe. You know, like he's gone all
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  over the Galaxy. He's had exposure.
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  Luke is in this backwater isolation and he still
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  understands another language because it's so prevalent.
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  Like Java's stranglehold is so prevalent that this kid in the
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  middle of nowhere speaks another language because of it.
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  So like Leia, yes, she she kind of Avengers Anakin, but she also
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  Avengers Luke's family as well, who had been under this crime
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  Lord's thumb as well. And you can see the anger Luke
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  has in Return of the Jedi. I just love when he goes to talk
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  to Jabba like he's trying to like keep his cool, but he does
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  get pissed, he says. That's the last mistake you'll
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  ever make. Like that's that's something a
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  Jedi, I would say. Well, no, but there's a long
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  standing grudge there, and she ended it for everyone.
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  Yeah, it's pretty badass. I never really thought of it
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  that that way, but when you put it in a perspective like that,
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  it it's kind of like there's nowhere you can run on Tatooine
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  where you can escape the shadow of a Hut.
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  I don't mean that literally, although, But you know what I
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  mean? The oppression, the the
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  constant. He's got men out there looking,
• 23:19
  just looking to pick a fight with someone like Luke.
• 23:22
  Yeah. Exactly.
• 23:24
  And Luke has such like a sense of justice that he would
• 23:27
  probably get into trouble. Well, Uncle Owen's trying to
• 23:31
  keep his head down. Luke is more likely to be the
• 23:34
  person to say like, that isn't right.
• 23:36
  We shouldn't, like, just go along with it.
• 23:38
  Hotties seems like a really difficult language to learn.
• 23:42
  They from what I read, you can. Humans can understand it, but
• 23:45
  they can't speak it. I see.
• 23:48
  So on the reverse they would do the huts.
• 23:52
  They they understand everything that they understand.
• 23:55
  Basic right? Yeah, they understand basic and
• 23:58
  then they have, you know, they're using 3PO as a.
• 24:01
  Oh, that's true. They have droids.
• 24:02
  Yeah, that's true. OK.
• 24:04
  Yeah, but. Oh, this makes me want to
• 24:06
  rewatch A Return of the Jedi. I know, I know.
• 24:09
  I it hit me once that like 3PO is not translating for Luke
• 24:14
  during that scene because the. Oh yeah, you're right, he.
• 24:19
  Does because he knows. Yes, he does sometimes for some
• 24:23
  parts of it. But when Luke is there, he's not
• 24:25
  translating. Luke understands it.
• 24:28
  That's hot. Yeah.
• 24:33
  I mean, it just shows like, you know, how hard it is to learn
• 24:36
  another language. I mean, it is for for me, for
• 24:39
  us, OK? It's like those of us in the US
• 24:43
  of A aren't great at picking up second language.
• 24:46
  And I'm. I'm here to tell you I'm
• 24:47
  embarrassed by that, but Luke is intelligent.
• 24:52
  He's highly intelligent, so he picked it up.
• 24:56
  That's hot it. Is very hot.
• 25:00
  That's what I thought when I first.
• 25:01
  Saw it? Yeah, Exactly.
• 25:03
  Well, anyone who understands droids, like, so effortlessly,
• 25:07
  that's right. Like, basically binary of some
• 25:10
  kind, right? Right.
• 25:12
  And he also understands Chewy. Huh.
• 25:15
  Which? Which is crazy.
• 25:18
  Because he's never seen a wookie before.
• 25:22
  This Harkins. Back to the Christmas special.
• 25:27
  I needed an interpreter. I need an interpreter to tell me
• 25:30
  what the fuck all of that was. But we don't, right?
• 25:35
  Because we would just be in pain.
• 25:37
  Yeah, We're never, ever going to watch it again.
• 25:39
  Never. The only time I would care is if
• 25:45
  Luke came and translated so then I could just listen to him, but
• 25:49
  otherwise I don't. I think it's awesome that Luke
• 25:53
  knows this stuff. Leia I would expect because she
• 25:56
  was kind of raised amongst other races and probably as a as a
• 26:00
  soon to be senator would have to.
• 26:02
  Yeah. You know, kind of learn the
• 26:04
  ways, yeah, and and speak the languages of others.
• 26:07
  And when you start young, you can pick it up much easier.
• 26:12
  Everything. Yes, it's easier to be bilingual
• 26:16
  or multilingual if you start basically from the beginning.
• 26:19
  And that's why I struggle. I didn't Start learning a new
• 26:22
  language till I was like 15 and my it just does not stick in my
• 26:28
  brain. It's really difficult.
• 26:29
  I really struggle a lot. I can kind of understand stuff,
• 26:34
  but I can't speak it. Yeah.
• 26:37
  Yeah, I don't know. My mind is not wired for it,
• 26:40
  that's for sure. The only other thing is that
• 26:43
  there's like a gross side to this of people who really are
• 26:48
  opposed to the renaming and why they because they think Leia was
• 26:57
  not a hero. They think that the the
• 27:02
  arguments I read said that she was in that position because she
• 27:06
  messed up the the rescue of Han Solo and she was only able to
• 27:13
  kill Jabba because other people like Luke and Han and three PO
• 27:19
  were distracting people who would have protected Jabba.
• 27:22
  So she just took advantage of an opportunity, but that Luke also
• 27:26
  should have been called Hutslayer because without him
• 27:29
  she wouldn't have been able to do it.
• 27:30
  It was just like this whole nasty I went down a rabbit hole
• 27:35
  that made me sick to my stomach, kind of of people saying that
• 27:39
  she deserved to be called a slave, that she she is a slave,
• 27:44
  she's dressed like a slave, so she we should call her a slave.
• 27:47
  And they just are opposed to anything from the original
• 27:50
  trilogy. Being changed, I have.
• 27:51
  I have news. That is not how a slave is
• 27:53
  dressed. That was rich fabric gold.
• 27:58
  It was done in a way to please Jabba visually.
• 28:02
  Unless. Unless she's a sexual slave,
• 28:05
  which is what? Some people implication.
• 28:08
  People were saying they're like, we don't know what happened with
• 28:11
  Jabba, but the clothes imply and it's like, this is just so
• 28:15
  gross. So what is she supposed to do
• 28:18
  then? Sit there?
• 28:19
  Wait for Luke to rescue her or take advantage of an
• 28:23
  opportunity? To me, that sounds like every
• 28:25
  hero you take advantage of an opportunity.
• 28:29
  Literally, Luke is on that barge thing.
• 28:32
  He gets caught also. Yeah, like he set up an
• 28:36
  opportunity and then it goes a little sideways.
• 28:40
  That's that's called a plot, folks.
• 28:48
  Well, it's, you know, we all know that there's that.
• 28:51
  There's that side of Star Wars fandom that's just ready to jump
• 28:57
  on anything that's new and hated.
• 29:00
  And to me, I really, I really like Hutzler because I was
• 29:05
  uncomfortable seeing Leia in that position, even as a kid.
• 29:11
  It made me feel really uncomfortable to see that 'cause
• 29:13
  she had been such a strong hero. It was like the fastest way to
• 29:16
  humiliate a woman is take away her clothing and make her
• 29:21
  vulnerable on the end of a chain.
• 29:22
  Like it just like creeps me out so much.
• 29:26
  And so to be able to reframe it as a moment of strength, I think
• 29:32
  it's very empowering and makes me feel a lot better about the
• 29:36
  whole thing, even though I am still a little uncomfortable
• 29:39
  with it. But you know.
• 29:41
  Well, bottom line, no matter what situation Leia finds
• 29:46
  herself in, from a child all the way to her dying days, she took
• 29:52
  opportunities to empower others and empowered herself.
• 29:57
  No matter what the situation. You call it whatever you want,
• 30:01
  but to me that's that's a hero and that's an idol.
• 30:04
  Yep. I don't care what you label it,
• 30:06
  I prefer Hutslayer. Yeah, fuck yeah.
• 30:10
  Yeah, fuck you Jabba. Our question to you this week is
• 30:24
  pretty simple. Do you prefer the term Hutslayer
• 30:28
  when it comes to Leia as opposed to we'll say Slave Leia or just
• 30:32
  you know, self rescuing Princess or anything else that's that
• 30:37
  goes along with the term Leia? But do you like hudslayer?
• 30:40
  Because we do Let us know. Next week we are starting a new
• 30:46
  series. I'm really excited about this.
• 30:49
  Our one of our listeners kind of gave me the idea she was saying
• 30:53
  how you and really impacted how we see Obi Wan.
• 30:57
  And then I was thinking because James is my favorite Obi Wan And
• 31:02
  then I was like, well, but there's also Alec Guinness and
• 31:05
  then there's I think it's is it Steven Stanton I think from
• 31:07
  Rebels. So what we're going to do is
• 31:09
  we're going to go through each of these four actors who have
• 31:13
  played Obi Wan, giving them their own episodes.
• 31:16
  So I think the next week we're going to talk about Alec
• 31:18
  Guinness. We're just going to talk about
• 31:21
  how Alec Guinness, well, like what he brought to the
• 31:25
  character. And then the week after that
• 31:28
  we'll do you and then we'll do James and then we'll do Steven
• 31:31
  Stanton. So it's going to be a really
• 31:33
  cool series and then when that's done, we'll do Anakin in the
• 31:35
  future. So stick with us.
• 31:37
  I can't wait. It's going to be really fun.
• 31:40
  So yeah, join us back here next week for starting our new Obi
• 31:43
  Wan series. Yes.
• 31:47
  And we had a lot of listener comments regarding our
• 31:50
  attachment themed episode, which thank you so much for all the
• 31:53
  positive feedback we've received.
• 31:56
  It's been really awesome. We've received some very private
• 32:00
  messages about attachment in our listeners lives, some that we're
• 32:04
  not going to read just to keep private, but we really, really
• 32:08
  loved a lot of what we got. Yeah, such enthusiasm for this
• 32:14
  subject. It was, really.
• 32:15
  Cool. It's a ponderous subject.
• 32:17
  I think about it all the time and and especially lately.
• 32:21
  So I'm really glad people enjoyed the episode.
• 32:23
  Thank you. Yeah, our friends over at
• 32:26
  Scariff podcast shout out to Scariff Podcast.
• 32:29
  They say love the topic. My head cannon is that
• 32:32
  attachment has been misunderstood by fans.
• 32:34
  I feel that, like in the real world, our healthy attachment to
• 32:38
  the ones we love gives us unlimited power, which I thought
• 32:42
  was a very nice point of view. That's beautiful.
• 32:45
  I love that. Yeah.
• 32:48
  Well, I had. I have a ton of comments, but
• 32:51
  I'm just going to read Foundling Mercantile's comment because I
• 32:54
  thought it was such a good point, she says.
• 32:56
  Such a good episode. I feel like there's so many
• 32:58
  explorations in the books of how each Jedi interpreted their
• 33:02
  rules of attachment, love, and affection.
• 33:06
  There seems to be a camaraderie and affection with a disaster
• 33:09
  trio. And their and their.
• 33:11
  Clones, but there is a cold detachment with the old school
• 33:15
  Jedi Council. Even at the end of the Revenge
• 33:18
  of the Sith book, Yoda admits that it was the lack of
• 33:22
  flexibility that caused their fall.
• 33:24
  I completely agree and I think that's the general consensus we
• 33:28
  tried to come up with is that maybe there needed to be a
• 33:32
  little more balance with it, a little more flexibility and.
• 33:37
  I don't know why I didn't think of this when we were talking
• 33:39
  about it, but I thought about Qui Gon and how he's kind of
• 33:45
  both camps. Yeah, he he is.
• 33:49
  And I'm talking about in Phantom Menace, not in the Legends books
• 33:52
  or anything like that. In Phantom Menace specifically,
• 33:54
  he's really sweet and affectionate to Anakin and Shmi,
• 33:59
  but he's not attached. Like he is able to be both
• 34:04
  things, just like Luke. Like it doesn't keep him from
• 34:09
  doing his duty and being a good Jedi and following the Force,
• 34:13
  but he's still kind and warm and.
• 34:16
  Very. Yeah, I just, I think he, I
• 34:19
  think that's why when we did Who is the best Jedi episode.
• 34:23
  I was just. Thinking that so many people,
• 34:25
  said Qui Gon. And the majority?
• 34:27
  Said Qui Gon. Yeah, and.
• 34:29
  It makes, Yeah, he's got, Yeah, We need more Qui gon.
• 34:33
  I know we should probably do another Qui Gon episode sometime
• 34:36
  soon. OK.
• 34:39
  So thank you again to everyone, even you know, the ones we
• 34:42
  didn't read just to keep them private.
• 34:44
  And of course the ones we did read everyone who chimed in.
• 34:46
  We just adore you all and love the feedback.
• 34:49
  So thank you and thank you for listening.
• 34:53
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• 34:55
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