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610 CKTB | Carney Was Right to Walk from U.S. Trade Talks, But Ottawa Needs to Release the Details · Kvetch & Release

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  Speaker 1: It's another edition of Litkey's Got to Take. Good Morning, Johnny,
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  Speaker 1: Good morning. Okay, So your take this morning was Carney
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  Speaker 1: right to walk away from Trump? He pulled our negotiators
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  Speaker 1: out of Washington. Hey, remember when I said, if I
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  Speaker 1: could make a bet last week on Paul Market, I
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  Speaker 1: would bet that the deal was going to die. I
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  Speaker 1: could have made a fortune if they only accepted bets
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  Speaker 1: from Ontario.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you were saying though, that you expected that
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  Speaker 2: the deal would die because of Trump walking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, if I bet that it was just going
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  Speaker 1: to die, I would have won if I fair fare,
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  Speaker 1: if they had only taken a bet. Hey, listen, did
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  Speaker 1: the Prime Minister in Ottawa make the right call in
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  Speaker 1: your opinion, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, based on the information that we've garnered from the
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  Speaker 2: Canadian side, Yeah, Carney made one hundred percent of the
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  Speaker 2: correct call. Pull in our team home mutually beneficial trade
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  Speaker 2: is fine, but subjugation to another country would be treasonous.
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  Speaker 2: Quite Frankly, Washington, from what we know, tried to dig Hey,
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  Speaker 2: who Canada can try can trade with globally? Tried to
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  Speaker 2: launch an attack on French language equality, not only in
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  Speaker 2: Quebec but also across the country. Through CanCon and attempted
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  Speaker 2: to strip our digital sovereignty as well. The US doesn't
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  Speaker 2: get to decide how Canada trades who we trade with
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  Speaker 2: when we trade full stop, So walking away from a
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  Speaker 2: bad deal isn't just a negotiating tactic. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 2: the bare minimum maintained to maintain and remain a sovereign nation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I mentioned this to Laura Babtok at
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  Speaker 1: nine point fifteen. The whole notion that Canada, if it
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  Speaker 1: wants to trade with another country, would have to say,
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  Speaker 1: excuse me, Donald Trump, do you mind if lee, you know,
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  Speaker 1: talk to fill in the blank country. I mean, that's outrageous.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it absolutely is. And I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 2: it was a full cart blanche, like they get to
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  Speaker 2: stop trade with other countries or they have to approve it,
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  Speaker 2: or maybe it was right of first refusal for our
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  Speaker 2: critical minerals or for example. But again, these are things
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  Speaker 2: that we don't know. We're sort of in a black
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  Speaker 2: box and we're just sort of taking people's words for it.
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  Speaker 2: But what we're hearing from the US side is very
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  Speaker 2: different than what's coming up from the Canadian side. So
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  Speaker 2: there needs to be a full accounting of what actually happened.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, if this is a truly a
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  Speaker 1: national emergency, is the government handling things to maintain the
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  Speaker 1: trust of wee Canadians.
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  Speaker 2: I think they are going to maintain the trust of
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  Speaker 2: Canadian of excuse me of liberals, but I think Canadians
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  Speaker 2: more broadly, what we're seeing is a bit of a
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  Speaker 2: hypocrisy being exposed. We have Mark Karney declaring that Canada
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  Speaker 2: is literally at war over trade, saying that we were
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  Speaker 2: attacked and that means that that's war. Then we need
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  Speaker 2: to act like this. I mean, you shouldn't be exercising
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  Speaker 2: emergency executive powers from behind cabinet doors while keeping the
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  Speaker 2: nations elected representatives legislators completely in the dark. So I
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  Speaker 2: think what needs to happen here is either recalled parliament
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  Speaker 2: today or if this is war time, then we should
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  Speaker 2: be having conversations about whether or not a cross party
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  Speaker 2: or war time unity cabinet with opposition leaders is required
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  Speaker 2: right now. So this is a national crisis. It can't
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  Speaker 2: be managed through background leaks and PMO press releases. So
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  Speaker 2: I think the secrecy needs to end. Transparency needs to
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  Speaker 2: be provided because Canadians deserve it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we're seeing a real tale of two
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  Speaker 1: provincial approaches. Most provinces taking a firm Team Canada stance. Well,
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  Speaker 1: some plan to maintain booze bands. Others are panicking demanding
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  Speaker 1: an immediate return to the negotiating table. What's best in
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  Speaker 1: your opinion?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is it's really interesting. Everyone here wants to
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  Speaker 2: say they're on Team Canada, but we're seeing some divergences.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, Doug Ford is firmly captain in Canada,
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  Speaker 2: Captain Team Canada wrapped in read. But then you've got
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  Speaker 2: Danielle Smith who panicked immediately begging to jump back to
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  Speaker 2: negotiating table. Quebec is going to maintain their top down
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  Speaker 2: booze import ban. British Columbia is as well, and I
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  Speaker 2: don't have an issue with organic voluntary by Canadian boycotts.
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  Speaker 2: That's smart from consum it's justified. They're powerful. But government
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  Speaker 2: enforced bands at this point are going to be continual
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  Speaker 2: provocations that poke the bear and invite unnecessary further retaliation
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  Speaker 2: that we're going to be dealing with. So state level
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  Speaker 2: grand standing hands us negotiators an easy excuse to target
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  Speaker 2: our exporters. For example, so consumer action carries moral weight,
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  Speaker 2: but the bureaucratic posturing it just invites that retaliation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about this last week. When I heard
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  Speaker 1: that you Trump at least said there was a deal.
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  Speaker 1: I went into a local LCBO store and I said, so,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think the American products are going to
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  Speaker 1: be back on the shelf? And you know, I was
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  Speaker 1: expecting people to say, well, we have no comment, we're
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  Speaker 1: not allowed to talk. But the woman said, well, a
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  Speaker 1: huge truck just arrived this morning and we're just waiting
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  Speaker 1: for the word. So now I guess it all goes
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  Speaker 1: back into a truck and back into storage for who
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  Speaker 1: knows when. But listen, you've been laying out a vision
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  Speaker 1: for I guess we could call it a Canada two
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  Speaker 1: point zero. So what's that look like? And how do
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  Speaker 1: we get there?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, it's completely madness right now that it's
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  Speaker 2: harder to move goods between Ontario, Quebec and Alberta and
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  Speaker 2: often to ship out of country. What we need to
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  Speaker 2: do is eliminate our interprovincial trade barriers, get trade actually
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  Speaker 2: flowing across the country to become an economic powerhouse that
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  Speaker 2: we can within our own house. So Ottawa needs to
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  Speaker 2: stop using the sticks that they're so used to using
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  Speaker 2: in many cases and start offering you know, carrots from
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  Speaker 2: the federal government. And this could be infrastructure grants or
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  Speaker 2: trade credits or you know, carbon capture credits or environmental
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  Speaker 2: protection for certain areas. I mean, the Feds have lots
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  Speaker 2: of abilities, but what we need to do is incentivize
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  Speaker 2: the province is to tear down all of their trade
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  Speaker 2: barriers to be able to generate more of a GDP.
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  Speaker 2: We should be looking at reshoring our advanced parts manufacturing
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  Speaker 2: as much as we can be as well, and you
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  Speaker 2: know it just fully integrating our national economy. We spent
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  Speaker 2: decades tolerating inter provincial trade systems that operate like a
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  Speaker 2: collection of competing nineteenth century fiefsoms. Quite frankly, so I
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  Speaker 2: think it's if anything good could come from this right
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  Speaker 2: now in the immediate it would be to force the
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  Speaker 2: country to start acting like a single unified economic power
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  Speaker 2: for once. We then need to diversify and find other
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  Speaker 2: trading partners around the world, and I think that you're
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  Speaker 2: going to see them sort of lining up wanting to
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  Speaker 2: trade with us, because we're the first country that's actually
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  Speaker 2: stood up to Trump like this on the world stage.
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  Speaker 2: And then beyond that, we've got to fix this relationship
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  Speaker 2: with the US because we're not going to get by,
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  Speaker 2: quite frankly, never talking to the US again. And anyone
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  Speaker 2: who is suggesting that we can do so is out
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  Speaker 2: to lunch.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, finally, what leadership trade do Canadian voters need
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  Speaker 1: to demand right now?
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  Speaker 2: I think uncompromising, pragmatic backbone, realizing that true national sovereignty
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  Speaker 2: it's not a bumper sticker gene or a press release.
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  Speaker 2: It should mean building up the things that we need
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  Speaker 2: to be able to support ourselves as a country, not
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  Speaker 2: being reliant on the security umbrella of the United States,
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  Speaker 2: for example, so that that means furthering our domestic arms
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  Speaker 2: manufacturing base, actually having standing, more standing forces to defend
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  Speaker 2: the Arctic. Understanding that when we brought in a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of temporary foreign workers and a bunch of students from
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  Speaker 2: other countries, we should have been capping that to the
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  Speaker 2: real pace of home construction and actual beds and houses
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  Speaker 2: that we had in the country. We should be lowering
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  Speaker 2: the tax rate to reward real productivity. But we've got
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  Speaker 2: to just get past the partisan theater and demand right now,
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  Speaker 2: pragmatic unity to build up this country that can stand
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  Speaker 2: on its own two feet. We can't claim to be
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  Speaker 2: serious or sovereign when our northern border is wide open,
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  Speaker 2: and quite frankly, so is our southern border. In many cases,
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  Speaker 2: defense procurement is a bureaucratic punchline, and our growth targets
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  Speaker 2: bear no mathematical relation to infrastructure that we actually have.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a lot that we need to do to
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  Speaker 2: fix our own house before we start poinging fingers at
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  Speaker 2: other parties and blaming them for everything.
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  Speaker 1: All right, another great take this morning. We'll see you tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Gen.
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  Speaker 1: There we go, John Litke, Litkey's got to take, And
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  Speaker 1: that was another great one.