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The Late Debate | 23 July · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: And I bet you anywhere Osey Osbourne rocks up to
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  Speaker 2: will be a hell of a lot of fun. Welcome
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  Speaker 2: to the Late Debate. I'm kayleb Bond with Joe Hildebrand
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  Speaker 2: and freyer Leitch. Coming up tonight, more details about the
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  Speaker 2: Greens kicking out members who've had misgivings about the party's
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  Speaker 2: drants tender policy.
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  Speaker 1: We'll tell you the latest about the.
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  Speaker 2: Greens banning women from defending women in the name of
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  Speaker 2: diversity soon in the papers. The link between drinking too
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  Speaker 2: much during pregnancy and youth crime. Shocking numbers coming out
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  Speaker 2: of Queensland. And a bloke gets picked up by the
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  Speaker 2: cops for driving without a bonnet. But if you think
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  Speaker 2: that's bad, wait till you see inside the car.
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  Speaker 1: But first, while we're on the topic.
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  Speaker 2: Of driving, and look, this fella may well be included
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  Speaker 2: in some of these numbers.
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  Speaker 1: But we have the exclusive details here.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight of where the worst drivers in the country are.
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  Speaker 2: A survey has been done that was reported on news
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  Speaker 2: dot com dot Au today where Australians were asked where
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  Speaker 2: do you think the worst drivers are, what do you
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  Speaker 2: think of your own driving and what do you think
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  Speaker 2: of everyone else's driving? And it's a really telling story
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  Speaker 2: because eighty nine percent of people say that they are
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  Speaker 2: good drivers, but only seven percent say that they think
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  Speaker 2: other people on the road are good drivers. So the
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  Speaker 2: two can't be true at once. But you want to
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  Speaker 2: know where the worst drivers in the country are.
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  Speaker 1: Here is the list.
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  Speaker 2: Thirty four percent of people say it's New South Wales.
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  Speaker 2: Vick Is followed, then twenty two percent of respondence, then
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  Speaker 2: Queensland seventeen percent, the Northern Territory ten percent, Western Australia
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  Speaker 2: eight percent, South Australia four percent, the Act three percent,
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  Speaker 2: and Tasmania two percent.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm going to.
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  Speaker 2: Advance a theory here that this list seems to follow
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  Speaker 2: almost in order the places where people have the most
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  Speaker 2: stressful lives through to where they have the least stressful lives.
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  Speaker 2: And I suspect the way they live their lives to
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  Speaker 2: the way they drive, because of course, if you live
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  Speaker 2: in a big city like Sydney or Melbourne, which is
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  Speaker 2: of course the most people who live in New South
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  Speaker 2: Wales and Victoria, that's really what we're talking about. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they're saying that the country drivers are
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  Speaker 2: all that bad, But people drive aggressively in the big
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  Speaker 2: cities because they have to be aggressive to get around
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  Speaker 2: their lives of stress.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we've got to get their kids to soccer, I
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  Speaker 1: got to get to work on time. I got to
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  Speaker 1: drive two hours to get to work.
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  Speaker 2: I reckon it translates through to your driving style, and
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  Speaker 2: that's why people think New South Wales and Victorian drivers
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  Speaker 2: are the worse.
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  Speaker 3: I think you might be onto something in their card.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm got a lot to say about this now. Firstly,
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  Speaker 3: it also breaks down almost exactly according to population. So
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  Speaker 3: basically this means that people think the worst drivers in
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  Speaker 3: the country are the ones who are driving around them.
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  Speaker 4: So it's always the.
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  Speaker 3: Drivers who are driving where I'm driving who are the
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  Speaker 3: worst drivers, which is why most responders would be or
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  Speaker 3: the biggest chunk of responses has been from New South Wales.
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  Speaker 3: That's where you have the biggest respondents of people saying
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  Speaker 3: they're bad drivers. In fact, that's incorrect because the reason
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  Speaker 3: why New South Wales feature so highly is a whole
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  Speaker 3: bunch of crap drivers from other states coming over here,
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  Speaker 3: not knowing how to drive and getting in our way,
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  Speaker 3: and then they get all upset when they get a
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  Speaker 3: bit of a toot or a bit of a house
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  Speaker 3: your father.
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  Speaker 4: The other thing that's very interesting is that the NT is.
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  Speaker 3: The only state or territory which is not pretty much
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  Speaker 3: where it should be. So it's got ten percent of
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  Speaker 3: the most hated drivers when in fact it's got a
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  Speaker 3: population lower than Tasmania or the Act right on the bottom.
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  Speaker 3: And that is because people in the Northern.
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  Speaker 4: Territory are crazy.
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  Speaker 3: They are psychos, and they are psychos on the road
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  Speaker 3: and they are psychos off the road. And that's what
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  Speaker 3: makes it so fun. They've got no speed limits, so
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  Speaker 3: I think they actually had to.
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  Speaker 2: Well they your fringe in labor bugger dat about that.
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  Speaker 3: No one pays any attention to them, and now they've
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  Speaker 3: made it no one pays any attention to it anyway.
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  Speaker 3: So and the thing is in Sydney in particular, And
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  Speaker 3: this is why Melbourne is so annoying, because Melbourne, they
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  Speaker 3: still all obey the rules. In Sydney, you can't afford
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  Speaker 3: to go by the rules if everyone obeyed the rules.
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  Speaker 3: No want to get anywhere. You got to get right
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  Speaker 3: in there. You've got to get right up the ass
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  Speaker 3: of the person in front of you. Every orange light
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  Speaker 3: means go faster.
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  Speaker 4: You know. Every bus line means don't get caught. You know.
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  Speaker 3: It's that kind of that's the animal spirits of the
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  Speaker 3: city that make it what it is, that keep it humming.
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  Speaker 3: And I've been driving all over you know what. I'm
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  Speaker 3: so sick of driving around this city. I think I
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  Speaker 3: might even take three months off.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder why you're taking three months.
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  Speaker 2: It's an interesting point about the open speed limits in
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  Speaker 2: the Northern Territory because it's proven that there is no
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  Speaker 2: increase in road fatalities when they have open speed limits
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  Speaker 2: up there, and I think we should have its across
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  Speaker 2: the country. To be perfectly honest to me, when you're
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  Speaker 2: driving along on the Hume Highway or something and it's
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  Speaker 2: like one hundred and ten, Now, this is just too
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  Speaker 2: slow for a really.
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  Speaker 5: Right Well, I think Joe might have a point about
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  Speaker 5: this survey mapping up with population, but it also aligns
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  Speaker 5: with I think more importantly, congestion, because areas that are
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  Speaker 5: populous have way more traffic. If you've tried driving in
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  Speaker 5: Sydney recently, I don't know what is going on. Maybe
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  Speaker 5: because the public transport has been so unreliable, people are
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  Speaker 5: driving more, but I'm constantly in standstill traffic. So I
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  Speaker 5: don't think it's that people in the ACT are particularly
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  Speaker 5: good drivers. I think people don't want to go there
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  Speaker 5: and they don't want to drive around there and when
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  Speaker 5: you actually look. So the app that did this was
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  Speaker 5: Life three sixty, which is a family location sharing app,
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  Speaker 5: so they know when you're driving, and they flagged that
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  Speaker 5: in forty six percent of drives in the ACT, people
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  Speaker 5: are committing dangerous driving behavior. So they're actually the worst
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  Speaker 5: objectively in the country. But it's just that no one's
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  Speaker 5: driving around the aco.
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  Speaker 2: The public servant, so they don't know how to do anything,
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  Speaker 2: but they're still stuck on the route. And I've lived
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  Speaker 2: in Adelaide, in Melbourne and in Sydney. I reckon South
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  Speaker 2: The Australian drivers are pretty bad and you don't.
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  Speaker 1: Realize it until you go into state.
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  Speaker 2: Just how bad people are emerging in particular insight.
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  Speaker 1: This is the thing and the thing that gets me
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  Speaker 1: is and it.
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  Speaker 2: Happens everywhere, true of every state, and I've driven all
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  Speaker 2: over the country. Is you get to an overtaking lane
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  Speaker 2: and you've had someone in front of you driving twenty
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  Speaker 2: k under the speed limit. And you go, all right,
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  Speaker 2: I'm ready around the bugger up and he sees the
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  Speaker 2: overtaking lane of back.
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  Speaker 4: Captain, go fast.
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  Speaker 3: This is so, are we talking about good drivers or
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  Speaker 3: law abiding drivers? Well, I sometimes you've got to you know,
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  Speaker 3: to make an omelet, you've got to break a few hours,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Another friend of mine moved
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  Speaker 3: from back to home to Adelaide after living in Sydney
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  Speaker 3: for years and years and years and years, and it
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  Speaker 3: did his head in because you have all these little
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  Speaker 3: country bumpkins and Adelaide.
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  Speaker 4: God love the city of the future. I love you guys.
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  Speaker 3: But they're just sitting there, obeying the rules and not
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  Speaker 3: pushing in. He's like, no, no, And he said to me,
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  Speaker 3: I'll never forget a guess. The things that these and
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  Speaker 3: I can't say the next word don't understand is that
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  Speaker 3: if you put your car in front of their car,
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  Speaker 3: then they have to let you in.
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  Speaker 1: Want to do it.
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  Speaker 2: The other interesting thing as well is there's there's more data.
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  Speaker 2: This is from Amy now, the insurance company that's found
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  Speaker 2: how many people are turning off all these driver assist
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  Speaker 2: things in the car. And the numbers I saw today
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  Speaker 2: were for Victoria specifically, but we can probably assume this
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  Speaker 2: is a reasonable uniform across the country. But the numbers
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  Speaker 2: out of Victoria that a fifth of drivers are turning
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  Speaker 2: off all these beings and bongs and things that they've
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  Speaker 2: got in the car because you don't need the car
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  Speaker 2: to tell you when there's another car in front.
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  Speaker 1: Of you and all this sort of business. It is so.
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  Speaker 2: Annoying, let me drive the car. I have a theory
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  Speaker 2: that it actually makes people worse drivers to some degree,
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  Speaker 2: because it's basically saying the car.
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  Speaker 1: Will do all the work for you.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to be attentive to what is around you.
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  Speaker 2: It'll tell you when there is a problem. For a while,
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  Speaker 2: I was driving a Subaru Forester.
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  Speaker 4: And now I'm idn't know I'm not, but I was.
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  Speaker 2: Driving a Suparoo Forester and it would have this thing
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  Speaker 2: if it thought you were too close to the car
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  Speaker 2: in front of you, and the broadshaw like.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, see. I'm in the eleven percent of Australians
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  Speaker 5: that knows I'm a bad driver and just owns it.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm in the category saying give me all the
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  Speaker 5: bells and whistles and safety features you got because I
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  Speaker 5: need them and everyone else on the road needs them
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  Speaker 5: when I'm around. But let's move on to a story
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  Speaker 5: in South Australia. The lovely town of McLaren Vale has
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  Speaker 5: a new coffee roaster that's just been approved by the council.
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  Speaker 5: But the residents are a little bitter. They put up
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  Speaker 5: a petition that was a little too latte to actually
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  Speaker 5: count for anything because it was submitted after the deadline
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  Speaker 5: for public consultation. But their argument is that the roasting
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  Speaker 5: coffee roaster will emit oder twenty four to seven as
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  Speaker 5: it's roasting the beans. I am never to be one
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  Speaker 5: but falls on the side of NIMBI councils not approving
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  Speaker 5: cool stuff, fun stuff. I love a bit of fun,
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  Speaker 5: but in this case, I am actually siding with the residence.
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  Speaker 5: I'm a riven past pace to drive past a coffee
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  Speaker 5: roaster all the time, and it smells like burnt toast.
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  Speaker 5: You go online and look at some of the testimonies
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  Speaker 5: from people who live near coffee roasters and they will say,
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  Speaker 5: within like a kilometer or more radius, you will have
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  Speaker 5: a constant smell of burnt toast. It doesn't smell like
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  Speaker 5: coffee because you're burning beans. You're not actually grinding them.
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  Speaker 5: You just get permanent burnt toasts. So, residents of McLaren Vale,
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  Speaker 5: I'm with you on that one.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there are worse smells in the world, I think.
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  Speaker 2: But I know exactly where this is in McLaren Vale.
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  Speaker 2: It's on the main street. Yes, there are houses nearby,
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  Speaker 2: but it's in the main street, next to the Bolo,
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  Speaker 2: directly opposite a shopping center. I mean, imagine living in
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  Speaker 2: a town like McLaren Vale, which is obviously busy because
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  Speaker 2: it's full of wineries, and you know that's what they
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  Speaker 2: rely on there. It's a town that produces one of
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  Speaker 2: the greatest wine in this country. But he's also reliant
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  Speaker 2: on tourism because people come to taste the wine, et cetera,
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  Speaker 2: and they want to have a local coffee when they
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  Speaker 2: get down there. You live in a place like McLaren Vale,
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  Speaker 2: what do you expect.
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  Speaker 3: Come on, well, this is the thing, right, But not
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  Speaker 3: only that. The residents who were so upset with this
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  Speaker 3: and so angry about it, they gathered seventy three signatures
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  Speaker 3: on a petition and then submitted it to the council
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  Speaker 3: the day after the decision was made.
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  Speaker 1: I get maybe if they don't.
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  Speaker 3: Instead of winging about the coffee, they should have actually
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  Speaker 3: stopped by and.
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  Speaker 4: Had a coffee and then they might have got their
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  Speaker 4: asking to get early enough to lodge a petition on time.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, but in their defense, the two people that were
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  Speaker 5: the masterminds of the petition did actually lodge a submission
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  Speaker 5: against the roastery, but it was only two of them,
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  Speaker 5: not the seventy three of them. So if you are
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  Speaker 5: going to oppose a development, at least do it effectively.
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  Speaker 5: But I do have some sympathy for it.
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  Speaker 2: Fare well lament to carry on with the with the jokes. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: the idea fell a bit flat white on some.
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  Speaker 4: Of these people.
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  Speaker 2: While we're talking about flat whites, let's talk about the Greens,
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  Speaker 2: because that makes up most of their membership, but they're
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  Speaker 2: they're slowly expunging everyone from their membership. It would seem
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  Speaker 2: or at least people who dare to question some of
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  Speaker 2: their policies. And you know, this is normally pretty typical
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  Speaker 2: within a political party, at least behind the scenes, that
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  Speaker 2: you have a robust discussion about what the policies are
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  Speaker 2: of the party, because I mean, how else can you
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  Speaker 2: trust that the party has come to a sensible position
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  Speaker 2: on any particular issue, but when it comes to gender
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  Speaker 2: and transgender issues, the Greens have taken it to the
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  Speaker 2: extreme and they have decided that if you don't fall
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  Speaker 2: into line with their policy, which is that anyone can
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  Speaker 2: be a woman, basically, whether a man, woman or otherwise,
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  Speaker 2: then you can't be part of us anymore. Sayonara, go
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  Speaker 2: off into the sunset. And of course we've been talking
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  Speaker 2: about Drew Hatton, who was one of the founding members
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  Speaker 2: with Bob Brown of the Greens, who was expelled from
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  Speaker 2: the party. The party that he started has expelled him
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  Speaker 2: because I dared to question their gender policies. And what
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  Speaker 2: he did was post online about some issues that were
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  Speaker 2: going on with people who were questioning and basically saying like,
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  Speaker 2: don't we believe in free speech anymore? We found out
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  Speaker 2: now who he was posting about. Her a human rights
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  Speaker 2: lawyer sorry by the name of Anna Kerr, who for
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  Speaker 2: years had been asking questions about the policy of the Greens.
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  Speaker 2: She's spoken a few years ago to the Daily Telegraph
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  Speaker 2: about her misgivings over the policy. And so they said, look,
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  Speaker 2: you've got one choice. Either you pledge that you agree
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  Speaker 2: with our policy or out you go. She refused to
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  Speaker 2: take the fledge and she was gone. Another person this
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  Speaker 2: has happened to is a former teacher, seventy year old
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  Speaker 2: woman who's been a member of the Greens for a
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  Speaker 2: long time, marrying Smediley.
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  Speaker 1: They said, pack your bags.
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  Speaker 4: Here she is.
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  Speaker 6: I started to look into it and I was quite
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  Speaker 6: horrified by some of the extreme things that are happening
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  Speaker 6: under the banner of trans ideology. So the worst thing, though,
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  Speaker 6: was no one in the Greens is allowed to.
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  Speaker 2: Speak of it.
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  Speaker 7: So when I started to ask questions, I was shut
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  Speaker 7: down as everyone is, and the Greens actually decided to
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  Speaker 7: stop any discussion. They brought out a new code of
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  Speaker 7: conduct Victorian Code of Conduct, which actually banned members from
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  Speaker 7: stating there were two sexes and that sex was not changeable.
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  Speaker 1: What a joke.
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  Speaker 2: And I note there that miss Smedley is wearing a
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  Speaker 2: blue jumper, and I suspect that it's because if you
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  Speaker 2: want to be a feminist in a political party these days, Joe,
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  Speaker 2: you've got to join the Liberal Party.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, it is just amazing stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And again to the Greens who are currently just tearing
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  Speaker 3: themselves apart over this issue, it's costing them votes, it's
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  Speaker 3: cost them seats, and it's causing huge amounts of eternal
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  Speaker 3: division that yet destroyed the party. And so firstly, I'd
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  Speaker 3: just like to say, please don't stop, Please just keep going.
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  Speaker 3: This is wonderful for the country. But the funniest thing
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  Speaker 3: about this human rights lawyer who was kicked out, So
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: the thing that the Greens got really upset about was
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  Speaker 3: that she said that they weren't inclusive. How dare you
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  Speaker 3: say that we're not inclusive? We're the most inclusive, but
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  Speaker 3: at all, how dare you accuse us of not being inclusive?
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  Speaker 3: If you don't retract the statement that we're not inclusive, we're.
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  Speaker 4: Going to expel you.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that is literally so if you if just saying
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  Speaker 3: that we're not inclusive, with no choice but to exclude you.
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  Speaker 3: And so, sadly, as often happens, you know, people are
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  Speaker 3: made to walk the plank. You were made to do
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  Speaker 3: what you're told because the party has all the cards,
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  Speaker 3: the party has all the power. And I'm told a
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  Speaker 3: bit of back and forth, they did finally get their
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  Speaker 3: full and utter retraction, and we've got some exclusive footage
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  Speaker 3: right here.
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  Speaker 8: Now apologize me to you, apologize, all right, all right.
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  Speaker 8: I apologize, really sorry.
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  Speaker 6: I'm really really sorry.
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  Speaker 8: I apologize unreservedly. You take it back, I do.
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  Speaker 3: It is just Sophia and the only thing like more
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  Speaker 3: satirical than that is the actual reality of the Greens.
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  Speaker 3: I just love it so much.
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  Speaker 4: It's just a beautiful things.
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  Speaker 5: And that original complaint was launched by Abigail Boyd. It
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  Speaker 5: really started because this woman who runs by the way,
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  Speaker 5: Sydney's Feminist Legal Center, like hardly a right wing conservative outfit,
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  Speaker 5: classic far lefty type, she runs the Feminist Legal Center,
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  Speaker 5: and she questioned when Abigail Boyd, a member of the
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: New South Wales Greens, moved a motion to change all
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: references to women being pregnant to pregnant people, because it's
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: not just it's not just women who can get pregnant.
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  Speaker 5: She even said one of the the trans person who
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  Speaker 5: they put on the board of the Women's Working Group
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  Speaker 5: in the Greens Party said but people other than women
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  Speaker 5: can also carry fetuses and need abortion care. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: this is just so unbelievably absurd and offensive, and I'm
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  Speaker 5: glad that even the radical feminists are starting to wake
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  Speaker 5: up to this. But I think if Jenny Leong could
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: have her pledge of allegiance. It would look a little
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: something like this, I.
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  Speaker 4: Will do whatever you ask.
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  Speaker 5: Oh wow, the resemblance with Jenny Leong there is quite striking, and.
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  Speaker 2: It just proves, you know, we all kind of know this,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: but it just proves that they're not a party of
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: tolerance whatsoever. They don't believe in free speech. As we know,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: it's about doctrine and you have to fit into it.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: And this is what I find so fascinating about the
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: modern left is that once upon a time, the left
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: fought against repression. They fought for free speech because they
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: felt that the establishment, which was to the right at
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: the time, was too restrictive and there was too much
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: censorship and you couldn't say what you wanted, and there
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: wasn't enough academic freedom. And so they fought through the
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: sixties and seventies and eighties to say, we should be
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: able to say and do and think and feel whatever
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: we want, and they achieved that. They then became the establishment,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: and then decided that they would be what the establishment
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: used to be because they worked out, well, we've got
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: the power now, so we'd be stupid not to use
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: that power. Now that it's in our hands. It's all
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: good and well to say, well, you've got to change
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: your mind so that we can think what we want
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: to think as well. But once they get there, now,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: we're not going to extend the same to you that
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: you demanded, will you give to us?
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: And the irony is that the left themselves on inclusivity,
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: on anti racism have especially since October seven, often found
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: themselves on the sides of racism itself. So at the QUT,
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: I'm not suggesting these people themselves are racists, But at
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: the QUT Anti Racism symposium that occurred a couple of
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: months ago, Sarah Schwartz, who is the founder of the
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: Jewish Council of Australia, a very radical, fringe far left
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: group that opposes Israel and then claims to act as
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: the representative group of Australian Jews, which is a load
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: of rubbish. She spoke it was some sort of supposed
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: to be a comedy event, but it wasn't funny at all,
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: and she spoke about Dutton's Jew Here's what she said.
• 18:47
  Speaker 9: Hating on Migros by arguing the Pelotonian refugees are a
• 18:51
  Speaker 9: threat to Jews, just generally hating on Muslims, protecting every
• 18:56
  Speaker 9: day diocese from left win anti war protesters, and of
• 18:59
  Speaker 9: course falstreak support for Israel as that commits a genocide,
• 19:05
  Speaker 9: needs to defend the right to be bigots because do
• 19:08
  Speaker 9: this for it.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: So some of the characteristics that Dutton's Jew possesses, and
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: this is at an anti racism event. I stress. They
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: promote Judeo Christian values, they hate the radical left, they're
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: scared of protesters, they hate Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims. They're
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: anti immigrants, think of anti semitism as the only form
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: of racism and defender of Western civilization and Australian culture.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: Is that a bad thing? I'm extremely contructed there. I mean,
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: this is so belittling to group Jews in this way
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: and paint them is so stupid that they just lap
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: this stuff up and blindly follow Dutton's lead. No, the
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: Liberal Party stood steadfastly with the Jewish community in the
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: wake of horrific anti semitism. That's why they supported Dutton
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: in large numbers. But don't fear because in investigation was
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: conducted and there was no racism. It may have caused
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: an offense, but a QT investigation by a former judge
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: found that there was actually no racism. I don't know
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: if it was Albanezy's Aboriginal, if it was at Amvanced Chinese,
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: if it was any other racial group, would they have
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: found the same thing. I'm not so sure.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: And you know, I'm pretty willing to give the benefit
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: of the doubt when it comes to comedy, because I
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: think that, you know, if you can't have comedy anymore
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: than you can't have anything, it's the job of comedy
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: to hold things up to us that are uncomfortable sometimes,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: and so, you know, do whatever you want. And I
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: don't necessarily think that there should be sanctions against people
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: for saying things. But it is pretty rich when you
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: read some of this stuff that the investigation was done
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: by former Federal Court judge John Middleton. Of course they
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: get to capture it all by saying, well, we were
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: trying to be funny, but you'll notice in that clip
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: that we played there were no laughs in that auditorium
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: because it wasn't terribly funny.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: It wasn't a comedy event. It was a two symposium
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: and not meant to be funny.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: But they then say afterwards, and this is how they
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: get away with it is that they say, oh, well,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: we were being securical, We're being satirical.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: So let me furnish you.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: With an example of this satire. And I'm quoting from
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: the report in the Australian. Here Mister Middleton, the former
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Federal Court judge, found that Indigenous poet Lorna Munroe had
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: not intended to promote aggression when she urged delegates at
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: the debate to quote punch a racist and showed slides
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: of people being punched in the head. The report includes
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: a transcript from Monroe's presentation, in which he told her
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: audience that quote, the solution to racism is a punch
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: directly in the face, throat or the garrah.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: She stated.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: People say that we should call out racism when we
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: witness it. I say, punch that sea word in the face.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I mean that is champagne, satire and comedy.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Joe that he's definitely not incitement of varis whatsoever means?
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I am.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: I'm with you on that, and yeah, sure have made
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: the jokes or whatever. But the problem is that these
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: are the same people who if anyone else says I
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: was just being funny, I was just these are the
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: same types of people who actively try to cancel actual comedians.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: These are the same kind of people that went after
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Dave Chappelle for having trans related material in his one
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: of his Netflix specials. These are the same kind of
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: people that got Shane Gillies fired from Saturday Night Live
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: by bringing up tweets or not so sorry, not bring
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: up tweets, bringing up jokes that he'd made on a
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: podcast that they'd said were racist. And again, so this
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: is part of the you know, not necessarily these exact individuals.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Again, but this is what.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: The censorious left does to everybody else. And then when
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: anyone else tries to take any sort of objection to
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: them and saying how oh no, sorry, we were just joking. Sorry, no, no,
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Now we believe in free speech, and they're doing the
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: same thing suddenly, the same sort of people who, for example,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: condemned Bill Leak for his cartoon about the problems in
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: remote indigenous communities.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: You know, these are the.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Same people who say, oh no, but we should be
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: able to say whatever we want about Israel or Jews
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: or whatever on campuses. And if you tell us that
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: we can't spread hate speech or we can't be anythmitic
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: that will infringe.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Our freedom of speech.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: So it is absolutely like the rank hypocrisy is what
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: gets in, not the fact that they're saying all this
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: dumb stuff and.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: The same as you know, for the first time ever
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: they've been worried about freedom of speech when Jillian Siegel
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: handed down here exactly, and it's like, well, I'm glad
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: you finally joined me here, Welcome aboard. So in some
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: ways I welcome this report because what's good for the
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: goose is good for the gander. If this is the
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: standard now, and I don't have a problem with it
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: being the standard that you can say whatever you want,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: let's all be in it, let's let's all live by
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: the same rules. I just don't think it's going to
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: play out like that. Unfortunately, over to the United States,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: of course this story keeps unraveling to do with Jeffrey Epstein,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: and of course Donald Trump, the president said before the
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: election that he would make it a priority to release
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: the Epstein files, which is meant to contain the names
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: of all the people that Epstein, a convicted pedophile, was
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: consorting with and went to his island where allegedly there
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: was child abuse going on and of course, his right
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: hand woman, Glaine Maxwell, is currently in prison for enabling
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: the abuse of children within his household and trafficking children,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: et cetera. Now Trump has said that this document is
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: not going to be released because it doesn't exist. He's
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: gone from saying we're going to release the Epstein files
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: are saying it to hoax that was invented by Barack Obama.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: And the MAGA crew is not happy with that. I mean,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: they're saying, come on, man, you can't tell us that
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: this thing exists, and you're going to show us all
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: the pedophiles in the world.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: And then suddenly.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: No, sorry, it was it was a hoax by Obama.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Very interesting development. Now though, the DOJ, the Department of
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Justice in the Uni States, is sending people down to
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: meet with Gilaine Maxwell to potentially get more evidence out
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: of her, because, of course, when she was locked up,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: there was a lot of consternation over the fact that
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: she'd given very little evidence about who was involved with
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: the operations of Epstein and the abuse and trafficking of
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: young girls. There is a suggestion this is sort of
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: you know, what people are saying online is that maybe
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: if Maxwell gives up a bit more goss, which will
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: then allow the Trump administration to perhaps, you know, give
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: out something that might look like the Epstein files if
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: they get enough information to say, well, these people were
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: potentially involved in it all. If Donald Trump happens to
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: be involved in all of it, then his name will
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: just be erased from the history books. And the way
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: it will go be very interesting to see what, if anything,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Glaine is willing to say.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: Well, this is the crux of the issue. It hinges
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: on whether these clearly goes with trafficks. Clearly there was
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: a lot of dodgy stuff going on, but the question
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: is was that just limited to Gallaine Maxwell and Jeffrey
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: Epstein or was it part of a wider ring of
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: high status people that they then blackmailed and had leverage over.
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: And that is what hopefully Glaine Maxwell will actually be
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: able to provide evidence on who else was involved. We
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: know people went to his island, we know people were
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: friends with him, but that's kind of what high society
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: is like. That doesn't necessarily mean they were involved in
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: all the sex trafficking stuff. So it will be very
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: interesting to see what comes of that. But I will
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: say it is very hypocritical of Democrats to now jump
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: on this and say release the client list, release the files,
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: when back when Republicans were campaigning on this issue, they
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: were saying, oh no, all this Epstein stuff, it's just
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: a conspiracy. It's all a conspiracy theory. None of this
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: actually exists. No one else was involved in this. It's like,
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: which one is it. I'll admit that Trump administration was
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: incompetent in how they handled this claiming something exists. If
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: you don't have the goods and you're not ready to
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: produce it, don't do that. You look stupid and you
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: create a bigger issue for yourself. But for Democrats to
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: now come out and act like they are the ones
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: who want transparency and openness around the Epstein saga is
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: just hypocritical.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: I just want everything, though I want it. I was
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: promised a list of pedophiles. I want to say a
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: list of pedophiles, and I want some names I can
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: recognize too, you know well and connected, Joe Bloggs. It's
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: got to be you knows.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: And that's meant to be the point, right.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: And of course, some of the allegations that you've heard
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: about people who visited the island and the goings on
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: on the island. I mean, you'd be stupid not to
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: ask questions why they were there. I mean, you know,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: it's a bit like someone gets caught for being a
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: pedophile or whatever and everyone cas.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I never saw it. I never knew that most possible.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, people said that about Jimmy Savills in the
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: United Kingdom.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I never knew. I never knew. I never knew.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: You know, people, very high profile people, including Prince Andrew,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: continued to hang out with Jeffrey Epstein after he was
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: a convicted pedophile. So there are very genuine questions to
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: be asked about why they were hanging out with him
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: and who else might have been hanging out with him.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: People are rightly angry that they haven't gotten the detail
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: that Trump promised them.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: And the longer so Trump is also pulled or the
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: Republicans have pulled numbers in Congress, so Congress is now
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: finishing a day early so they can avoid a vote
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: on releasing the Epstein files. So the more they dig
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: into this and it refused to be transparent and open,
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: the worse it looks. Regardless of if there's any substance
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: to these allegations.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: I'm just getting so confused now, and I'm sure that
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: that is the point, but because pambond I, well, first
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Trump said, you know, look, I've had a look that's
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: really boring. There's nothing in it, so don't worry about it.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: You had about it, go home, and Pambondi the Attorney
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: General comes out and says, yes, look, we're not going
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: to release these files because blah blahlahlah blah blah blah,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: bah blah, there's nothing there.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: You know, I had nothing to see here.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Folks move a lot, everyone goes ballistic, including the Magabas.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: Of course.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Pambona the Attorney General then comes back and says, oh, yes, okay,
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: now we will release the Epsteene files. Donald Trump has
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: told me to do it, and they're ready to go.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: And then they start releasing all this random stuff, the
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: FBI files they're talking about, and all this random stuff
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: that doesn't have anything to do with Epstein. It's I'm
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: just so confusing. I've got the feeling that this is
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: just a massive kind of snow job where they're just
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: trying to if they think if they just dump enough
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: kind of a pile of you know, well, snow all
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: over us that no one's actually going to see.
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: The problem was during the election, in the lead up
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: to twenty twenty four, they pedaled these I don't want
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: to say Trump pedaled these conspiracies. This is the thing
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: that he associated with podcasters and influencers who did and him.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: And they're being hoisted by their own potential.
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they would release the JFK files at Martin Luther
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: King files, Epstein files and.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Of two out of three ain't bad.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: Well they have and there's actually nothing there and that's
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: the awkward part. So now it looks like they ran
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: on a conspiracy theory that hasn't really played out, So
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: we'll see. But they have to resolve this asap because
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: it is tearing apart their base. Something else that really
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: needs to be resolved as a man in Sydney based
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: out in Horsey Park who has been issued either a
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: forty five thousand dollar fine or one more chance to
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: clean up his properties. He is a mass hoarder that
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: has been pursued by the Council since two thousand and six.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: He was taken to the Environment Court in twenty sixteen
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: for unlawful disposal of waste, then again in twenty twenty two,
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: and now he's been charged with contempt of court for
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: refusing to deal with this waste. I mean, he is
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: hazardous at that point. That's pretty disgusting, and for his
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: neighbors to have to live next to that, it is
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: absolutely shocking. But it doesn't seem like he's fussed about
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: this at all or particularly keen to clean it up.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Can I talk something about hoarders.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: There is nothing you can do to stop it, but
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: they are just I won't tell you how I know
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: that I know. And you try to take stuff away,
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: it's like trying to take here baby from the arms
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: of a mother.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: It is just it is just bonkers.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: So good luck to them. It's absolutely right. They shouldn't
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: be there, and it's terrible. It's awful for the neighbors.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: But I reckon, you know, you take the stuff, you're
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: not having to take him.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: But this is the thing that the reason they won't
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: give it up is because it's a mental disorder. It's
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: a diagnosible mental illness from the DSM. These people are
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: so irrationally connected to all of this stuff that they
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: collect that it causes them serious distress to even think
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: about giving it up, So you can't just will There's
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: two problems.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: One is you can't just run in and take.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: It all off the property because the bloke will just
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: go to water and turn into a wreck and then
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: have to go into a mental institution, which perhaps I
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: mean he needs help. It's clear the guy needs help
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: if he's not able to clean it up. And I
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: don't mean help to move it. I mean he needs
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: mental help because it is a mental illness. But even
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: once you've taken all that stuff off the property, if
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: that's what the court demands you to do, it doesn't
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: actually fix the root cause, which is that the guy
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: isn't well.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: They did.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: There was a really famous Bondie hoarder who was a
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: woman who filled her house. It wasn't industrial stuff, it
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: was just household stuff, and it was causing a huge
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: health hazard and obviously terrible for the naves and everything,
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: the rats and everything, blah blah blah. And they did
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: and they actually went in there and forcibly removed everything
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: and got on the thing and then you know, next thing,
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: you know, bang, it's all just back.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: It's all back again.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: I just found it astounding that the people are able
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: to live like that. But again, you know, I suppose
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: if you're in the grips of mental illness and you
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: just don't know any better. Over in Melbourne, they're talking
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: now about banning lithium batteries from trains and buses, et cetera,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: which means you won't be able to take your electric
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: scooter or your electric bike on the train anymore, because
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: apparently they've had a number of fires on the train,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: so the state government is now looking into the possibility
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: of banning them all together. You can see here some
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: of these fires that have been happening on the trains
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: in Melbourne. It probably would force them to run the
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: system a little bit down there, to be perfectly honest,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: because you know, nothing like something blowing up to stick
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: one up. Yeah, And of course you probably saw as
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: well the other day there was a case on a
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Virgin flight where someone had a rechargeable power bank thing
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: in their hand luggage on the plane and that caught
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: on fire and then they had to put it out.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: Here it is.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Now, this is.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Small scale stuff, and you would I mean, people have
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: been killed by these lithium ion battery fires, particularly charging
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: stuff at night, and so you wake up in the
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: middle of the night and all of a sudden, there's
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: this explosion in your house is full of smoke, and
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: then you're on fire and you're dead.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: But you know, it's one thing to talk about.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Electric bikes and scooters and power packing your hand luggage,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: but we've got all these electric vehicles that are all
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: over the country, particularly in the capital cities, now in
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: people's garages and on the street if you havn't got
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: a garage to park them in. And we know that
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: these lithium ion batteries are terribly dangerous if something goes wrong.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Essentially selling people big metal bombs that are sitting out
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: in front of people's owns.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: And if the government doesn't want them on trains in
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: public transport, yet they're going to subsidize them to put
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: them in your garage. I mean, that does seem like
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: a bit of a double standard there. But again I'm
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: always skeptical of the idea that we should just ban things.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: So I would want to know exactly how many fires
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: had really been started, because like I see people take
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: e scooters e bikes on the train all the time.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: It's a bit annoying when they stand in the middle
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: and they take up all the space, especially the food
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: delivery drivers with the massive boxes and everything. But I
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: haven't seen any fires, so I would be keen to
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: see the actual data.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Also, I'm pretty sure that every single lithium battery fire
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: in the world has been extensively reported on. So I
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: think if you get the total number of lithium battery
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: fires that have been reported and the total number of
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: lithium batteries in the world, that's your percentage. So I
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: think it is very, very small, and I think you
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: know if you I mean, it's great footage when it
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: does happen, and it's terrible if it causes people harm.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: But I'm pretty sure if it was happening more often
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: that this would be a bit of a bigger issues.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Well here, speaking of bigger issues, do you know Australian
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: workers lazy, no good job, hopping clock watching, terrible people?
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Says the Daily Mail?
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Not me.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: I think they're fantastic.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: They've got an article saying why OSI workers are quietly
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: planning to quit and the real reason should terrify bosses.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: They've done a survey that has found that sixty one
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: percent of workers are planning to leave their jobs in
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: the next twelve months.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: So that's like two out of the three of us
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: could be gone.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Wow, and the reason for leaving forty five percent say
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: no career progression Amen's sister. Forty two percent say low pay,
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: unchallenging work, poor management, a lack of work life balance.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Have we gone soft?
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: We know?
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Why would you want to leave?
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Joe to learn?
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I thought you'd like coming on the Sunday Showdown.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: I do.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: I can't get enough late debate, and you.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Know I work here. I've just been sleeping in the car.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: But I know, I know we won't be able to
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: sleep the car. I got able to sleep on the
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: mitch Ow because of your three much. But I can
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: half understand. I mean, if you're not happy, we're go
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: and find another job. I suppose it's just a matter
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: of whether or not you can find another job that
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: has the tub.
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is the free market of labor. And look,
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't be too scared about this because last year,
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: seventy seven percent said they were going to leave their jobs.
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: I don't think we've seen seventy seven percent of the
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: workforce leave. So I think people say they're going to leave,
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: and they don't necessarily follow through, but it is your right.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Medic conditions, as John Lawes used to say, keeping the
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: droom alive. After the break, we'll get into the papers
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: more net zero woes for the coalition, How long will
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Susan Lee last? And the link between drinking too much
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: while you're pregnant and crime.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: That's more coming up.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get stuck into the papers, starting with
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: The Australian.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: The headline is Lee under the pump as coalition uprising
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: against net zero grows. Susan Lee is facing a growing
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: coalition uprising to dump net zero by twenty fifty, with
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: the West Australian and Queensland divisions moving to formally oppose
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: the policy, and David Little Proud giving his strongest signal
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: yet that the Nationals could walk away from the pledge
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: after Michael McCormack and Barnaby Joyce triggered a messy debate
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: over the coalition climate target. The Australian can reveal the double.
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: The WA Liberal State Council on Saturday is expected to
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: join South Australia and the Northern Territory in backing a
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: motion to abandon net zero policy. AH Yes and this
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: is the problem. The parliamentary team is currently rather out
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: of step with the membership base of the Liberal Party,
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: which would overwhelmingly support abandoning a net zero getting back
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: to a common sense approach to energy policy. But we'll
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: see they're conducting a policy review, kicking the can down
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: the road. Yeah, but I hope for the sake of
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: Susan Lee's leadership that she takes a firm and courageous
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: sound on this one and abandons it.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: But this is the problem is that she said she's
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: not going to take a firm and courageous stand on anything.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Everything is on the table, so that this table on
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: which all these policy ideas are supposedly sitting must be
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: absolutely groaning. I mean that Parliament is sitting again and
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: the Liberal Party essentially has no policy platform because they
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: haven't yet decided what policies they're going to go forward with.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: It looks so weak to be having these arguments in
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: the newspapers when Parliament is sitting, because you haven't managed
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: to get it all together yet.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Like that's the problem should have been. They can't get
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: it off. They can't do it, that's the problem. So
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: if they abandoned net zero, they kiss goodbye to all
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: the teal seats and a whole bunch of you know, leafy,
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: you know, nice kind of middle class suburban seats as well.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: But if they keep.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Net zero, the NATS are in all sorts of trouble,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: and plenty of out of suburban and regional LIB seats
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: as well could be in all sorts of trouble. So
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: this is the problem there. And also their base is
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: telling them. I mean, this is the same base it
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: was telling Peter Dutt to go harder and harder and harder,
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: and you're almost there and you're going to win the election,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: and it turns out it was going in the other direction.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: It was just falling off a cliff. So this is
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: the whole problem.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: It's this massive and I don't pretend to have a solution,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: but the Liberal Party is divided within itself on zero,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: and then the Liberal Party and the Nats are also divided.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: The solution is they just have to stop talking about it.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, as long as you keep blabbering.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: On, someone's going to ask what the policy, someone is.
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: Going to say how much are you gratuitously bringing it
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: up in the media, Because you're going to constantly be
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: playing on the left turf. You need to reframe this
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: as an economics debate and make the case that way precisely.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: And of course you know it's one thing to talk
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: about the teal seats, which they made no progress on
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: even while maintaining zero at this election.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: The big problem.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: We got one back, but we lost another one, so
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: we're back to status quo. But fundamentally where the Libs
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: did really badly was in outer suburban seats, and people
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: in outer suburban seats are not voting on the basis.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: Of NIT zero.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: So you could do a lot worse.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Than to can it and start talking about the economics.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: To the front of the Cans post tomorrow shocking story
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: it says twenty five percent in custody could have disability
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: fas D on the rise. A new report has a
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: real the staggering number of young Queensland has held in
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: custody that have been diagnosed with a disability link to
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: severe learning and behavioral difficulties. Fas D is fetal alcohol syndrome,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: which is caused by another drinking too much when she
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: is pregnant, and it then causes all sorts of troubles
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: for the child mental issues. It can also cause physical issues,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: particularly with facial structure. But it would seem very clear
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: now on the basis of these numbers that there is
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: a link between fetal alcohol syndrome and kids who then
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: go on to commit youth crime, and that if.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: You want to talk about the root causes of.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: This stuff, because locking kids up and release him locking
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: them up again ain't fixing the problem.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: You've got two problems. One is the family.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Unit that these kids are coming from, which presumably leads
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: them to go out and commit crime because you know
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: that they're not getting support they need at home or
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: at school or whatever, and they go off the rails.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: But even before that, it's before the child is even
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: born that there are determinants as to whether they will
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: go on to commit use corist.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean, it's it's just the most obvious
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: thing in the world that if you've got a broken
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: family unit, if you've got you know, if you've got
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: mothers tragically who are obviously have their own struggles, who
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: are drinking throughout the pregnancy and drinking heavily throughout the pregnancy.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: Because you have to have quite a crack at it.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: That you're and you're clearly not getting a stable and
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: supportive home environment. If that's already going on, obviously you're
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: going to look to anything you can do to get
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: out of there. Just down the road in Townsville, another
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: bit of a depressing story, worst class, worst in class
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: on attendance. Just a quarter of schools have met attendance
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: targets in North Queensland since twenty twenty one. State government
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: figures show that so far in twenty twenty just twenty
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: percent of schools had met attendance rates. The worst performing
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: state school was B Coleman Community School on Palm Island,
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: with a fifty point six percent attendance rate in twenty
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: twenty four, so half the students not there. Vincent State
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: School also has one of the lowest attendance rates, and
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: of course there's all sorts of reasons for that. But
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: you know, the the COVID stuff obviously has caused a
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: huge amount of problem, particularly there weren't necessarily school closures
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: in Queensland as bad as they were elsewhere, though they
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: did still do the same thing which is absolutely outrageous.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: And we can all remember that Anastasia Palisa said that
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: the schools were safe and then the Queensland Teachers Union
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: had to stop work meeting and decided that they weren't
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: and some so bad and in another contributing.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: Face, and it starts the cycle of disadvantage because what
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: do these kids do when they're no longer school aged?
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: And what do they do when they're not at school?
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: That's the risk, right Moving on to the Herald Sun.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: Now we're bringing you a lot of sad stories tonight.
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry about this, but the headline is doesn't check out.
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: This is an exclusive more than five hundred red flags
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: on working with children check Blunders, a tech company that
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: safeguards working with children Checks, has uncovered more than five
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: hundred red flags on individuals with revoked, suspended, or no
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: longer valid permits who could still be working undetected in
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: the system. On average, one red flag a week is
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: notified by online screening company Oho, which verifies two hundred
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: and fifty thousand volunteers. It comes as it was revealed
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: childcare centers would have their funding stripped for failing to
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: meet safety standards under urgent changes put forward by labor. Look,
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: as I've been saying the whole time, we're at the
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: tip of the Iceberg on this issue, which is really
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: really sad. But the more of these loopholes and flags
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: that we can identify, the better.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Indeed, front of the Daily Telegraph tomorrow, China's subplot, a
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: top Chinese diplomat used a private meeting with a local
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: mea to probe for information about where.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Australia's Orcust nuclear submarines will be.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Docked and to move the opposition should ring alarm bills
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: at the highest levels of government. Who would have thought
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: this kind of thing would be going on?
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: Ifollow that asked the mayor, the Greens mayor former Greens
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: mayor of the Inner West Council, they could have got everything,
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: because these guys are all over international geopolitical, foreign policy
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: and just quickly the Canberra Times academic alert. Feminist academics
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: at the A ANDU have accused the university's leadership of
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: undermining progress towards fairness for women through its staffing and
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: departmental shakeup. We question the wisdom of undermining the university's
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: one dedicated teaching and research program in gender and feminist studies.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Professor Melinda Cooper said, And as you can see by
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: the picture, they're not happy.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Well, I for one, am absolutely devastated the idea that
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: this might be taken away from the unique. Go away
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: seriously after the break, Imagine you're driving along with no
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: bonnet on you can that's probably bad enough. Then the
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: coppers take a little inside and you're in the even
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: more trouble.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: You won't believe what we're about to go. You don't go.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Away all right, It is time to crown this bloke
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: as time of the day.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Now, imagine you're this chap.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: You're driving your Beamer along on Graves Road in cranber
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: North and the coppers decide to pull you over because well,
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: you're driving along without a bonnet on the front of
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: your car for one thing. I mean, that's enough to
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: get the attension of the coppers. So they pull you over.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Your wind down, the window a low offerer. You go
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: in and they look inside and your driver's seat is
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: actually a plastic guard chair.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, for goodness sake, how do okay? Like the
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: bonnet's not there.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Of course you're going to get the attention of the cops.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Then your seat is a garden's eat for goodness, like, look,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: you know it.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Props to the guy for being inventive. But what the
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: hell did you think was gonna happen? I can only
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: imagine he took some inspiration from mister Bean.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Classic. I mean, for goodness sake.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: I'm one hundred percent on this guy's side. If I
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: grew up just a couple of clicks down the road
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: and Dan and I. Cranberg North is just down the road,
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: and I have to say it's very on brand.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: Indeed, that's good to know that.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Haven't done now something else that is also very on brand.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: In a beautiful downtown southwest Sydney, New South Wales, police
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: have arrested a twenty nine year old man for allegedly
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: stealing a grocery truck. Chaos kicked off at five forty
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: eighty five am Banks Down, You, South Wales. Police say
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: a twenty nine year old man allegedly assaulted a twenty
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: three year old Woolworth's truck driver with a stun device
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: an Olympic parade. That is a terrible, terrible stain on
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: our proud Olympic legacy. I have to say. He then
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: stole the Woolies truck and drove off. Police say they
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: spotted the truck about nine am traveling along the Princes
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Highway Rockdale. The driver allegedly failed to stop when directed,
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: surprisingly enough, and a pursuit was initiated. Can I just say,
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: that's the sort of behavior you expect with an Aldi
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: truck worked like, that's a top end, that's a top
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: shelf brand.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Well, you know the cost of living is that bad?
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Maybe you just wanted to feed?
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, speaking of feeds, Elon Musk's new move has
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: Americans going absolutely crazy. He has officially opened Tesla's first diner.
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: So while you chied your Tesla, you can step into
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: this diner, which is the perfect blend of nostalgic retro
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: smalltown diner, complete with I think he's putting a skating
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: rink in there as well, but it's also extremely futuristic.
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: You can order ahead of time, it's all integrated with
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: your Tesla and look. It opened this week to absolutely
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: rave reviews had it.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: It doesn't look like a diner to me.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: I expect an American diner to look old and scungy,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: and that's exactly how you like it.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: That's it from us, and I thank you for joining us.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Up next to Rhythm Painting and show Rent