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Drafting Our Tigs Ride Or Dies · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part of
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  Speaker 1: the Foul Territory Network, a Troy Tiger's podcast. I'm Karen
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  Speaker 1: Steckley with me as always, a man who is known
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  Speaker 1: on the streets of eight Mile as N and N
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  Speaker 1: because he's got so much news and notes he is
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  Speaker 1: giving egg and how you.
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  Speaker 2: Doing doing good? Yeah, that's that's what the people want,
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  Speaker 2: news and notes. One of my all right, real quick rant,
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  Speaker 2: one of my favorite things people who don't live in
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  Speaker 2: Detroit or Michigan is the idea that eight miles like
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  Speaker 2: a neighborhood, like a bad neighbor people. It's a road.
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  Speaker 2: This is a very long road. I live just off
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  Speaker 2: eight Mile. It's all right, you're.
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  Speaker 3: Doing all right, you're doing all right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what these podcasts are for little check ins
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  Speaker 1: to make sure you haven't and nothing's happened to you,
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  Speaker 1: which leads us to, you know, we're recording this Wednesday morning,
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  Speaker 1: a very chaotic Tuesday night game against the Guardians as
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  Speaker 1: everything and we'll get to this, but everything is intensified
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  Speaker 1: and magnified, and every little thing becomes at least a
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  Speaker 1: medium thing and a lot of times a big thing. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: so before we get to the game, the news and
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  Speaker 1: notes element here we did get a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: clarity and some updates with some of the Tigers injuries
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  Speaker 1: and and I don't know, I guess schoogle is the
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  Speaker 1: most important thing. It's like Friday Night didn't even happen, right,
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  Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I had a bullpen, No no issue, Like.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's a straight it's.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little bit weird, like it is a little
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  Speaker 2: bit like I don't know, did they just give this
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  Speaker 2: guy some crazy painkillers and be like it's all good.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I want to believe Terrek when he says
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  Speaker 2: he's one hundred percent says that there's no soreness through
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  Speaker 2: his bullpen, totally normal, Like it's convincing. But then it's like, well, wait,
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  Speaker 2: you exited the game like a couple of days ago
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  Speaker 2: and seeing well, yeah, lott Key kind of worried. So like,
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  Speaker 2: are we sure this is just all sunshine and rainbows?
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  Speaker 2: Are you just like really trying to make sure you
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  Speaker 2: don't lose your grip on that cy Young Award? I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, but hey, if you are a Tigers fan,
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  Speaker 2: you gotta be very glad to see that your race
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  Speaker 2: is here saying he's healthy, looking ready to rock, throwing
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  Speaker 2: a good bullpen could have been a lot worse. It
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  Speaker 2: seems we'll maybe have a better idea if he's really
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  Speaker 2: one hundred percent once we see him get off that mound.
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  Speaker 2: But man, sounds like crisis avoided.
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  Speaker 1: Well and what could be a pretty crucial game on Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: Not that it wasn't gonna be anyway, but again, everything's magnified,
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  Speaker 1: but not so good news for one Matt vier Lane.
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  Speaker 3: Seems like.
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  Speaker 1: Probably if you're holding out hope, it's probably time to
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  Speaker 1: move on to something else to see him this season.
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  Speaker 1: Is that kind of a fair way to look at.
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  Speaker 2: It, Yeah, I think so. Aj Hinch basically said I
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  Speaker 2: don't know when asked like, is there time to get
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  Speaker 2: him ramped back up to help you? I think for
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  Speaker 2: the regular season it's a pretty clear no. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we got eleven games left. Matt Vierling's not even out
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  Speaker 2: on rehab assignment right now. I think the question becomes,
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  Speaker 2: if you can get them healthy for the ALCS or
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  Speaker 2: the World Series? Do you activate him when he has
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  Speaker 2: not played in a very long time, when he has
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  Speaker 2: barely played all season long? But is still you know,
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  Speaker 2: a player who can do a lot of good things
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  Speaker 2: as a guy who was a huge part of last
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  Speaker 2: year's team. Unfortunately, I just think that's where we're at.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't you know, it's hard to envision him getting
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  Speaker 2: back with any kind of form with the Triple A
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  Speaker 2: season winding down. Really unfortunate for a guy who's just
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  Speaker 2: had a difficult year, who I think really wanted to
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  Speaker 2: come back and contribute. Someone the Tigers were kind of
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  Speaker 2: counting on to come back and contribute. We talked about, like,
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  Speaker 2: why didn't they add to their position core at the
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  Speaker 2: trade deadline. Well, they had Barker Mettow supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: coming back, they had Matt Vierling supposed to be coming back.
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  Speaker 2: It was like, it's kind of like a trade. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I actually said that, but you can
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  Speaker 2: imagine them saying that right now. It just finally back,
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  Speaker 2: but he had an additional Vierling's just never got going.
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  Speaker 2: It's unfortunate. One of the reasons I talk about injuries
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  Speaker 2: the way I do, though, because some things sometimes these
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  Speaker 2: things just linger. Sounds like Scuball avoided the worst, sounds
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  Speaker 2: like Vierling has kind of become a worst case scenario.
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  Speaker 1: And fitting in and Sea Walder another a couple other
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  Speaker 1: guys that we got a little bit of notion, and
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  Speaker 1: I get it's still undetermined. I guess like it anticipate
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  Speaker 1: returns when and what fashion I guess is what we're
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  Speaker 1: still waiting for.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Sea Walt's getting one more rehab outing. I kind
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  Speaker 2: of thought he could be activated this week, but they're
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  Speaker 2: going to give him one more rehab outing. I'm expecting
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  Speaker 2: him to be active. I think you got to want
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  Speaker 2: to see this guy throw in the regular season a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. I'll be really interested to see who goes
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  Speaker 2: down for him. I guess it's possible they want to
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  Speaker 2: get through this Cleveland series with three left handers and
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  Speaker 2: then bring him up this weekend against the Braves. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know that's that's just a thought right now that
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  Speaker 2: that seems possible. And then Kyle Finnegan still undetermined. I
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  Speaker 2: think if he's going to do a rehab assignment, that's
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  Speaker 2: kind of the question. I think if it were to
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Finnegan, maybe you just out there. It's fair like
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  Speaker 2: it's going all the way to Iowa to face three
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  Speaker 2: triple A hitters really going to help you at this point,
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  Speaker 2: in the calendar, but I think the Tigers kind of
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  Speaker 2: just want to see him off the mound so that
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  Speaker 2: his first time back in big league action isn't or
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  Speaker 2: back in game action isn't a ninth inning of a
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  Speaker 2: tight game that could have some playoffs stakes attached to it.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see, but I'm expecting both those guys to
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  Speaker 2: be back in the big leagues pretty soon.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think there is some merit to the
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  Speaker 1: thought of, like your first time in game action not
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  Speaker 1: being that high intense adrenaline, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: and then you could like over exert yourself if you
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  Speaker 1: haven't had that form in a month basically, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. So I think I think it's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of marriage to that, and that's typically their history anyway.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well to the game itself, so obviously the
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  Speaker 1: Tigers lost seven to five in extra innings.
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  Speaker 3: One that was not short of storylines.
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  Speaker 1: I think if I were to summarize it in one sentence,
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  Speaker 1: it would be that it was the most in and
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  Speaker 1: out of character game that the Tigers had played this season,
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  Speaker 1: because you had the never say die attitude stuff, And
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  Speaker 1: people can dismiss it if they want. That's fair, but
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  Speaker 1: I'll include the tour comb run in the in the
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  Speaker 1: tenth as a part of the never say die, like
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  Speaker 1: you know, all twenty seven plus outs attitude with the team.
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  Speaker 1: But you also had outs on the base pass which
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  Speaker 1: are in and out of character because they typically get them,
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  Speaker 1: but you only get out unless you get them. You
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  Speaker 1: don't get them unless you get them, So that's part
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  Speaker 1: of it. You know, you had a casey My's experience
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  Speaker 1: that was a lot of good, a lot of good,
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  Speaker 1: just a little just a couple of misses here that
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  Speaker 1: were costly, and then you had some some tough defensive
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  Speaker 1: moments there as well, but also web gems like like
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  Speaker 1: what Wentzel Perez did. If he doesn't he didn't get
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  Speaker 1: to that ball, it's an inside the park home run,
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  Speaker 1: So like that was that was a risky play that
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  Speaker 1: he had.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know you wrote about this game.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it feels like a It feels like a
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  Speaker 1: game that is more meaningful than just one out of
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  Speaker 1: one sixty two.
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  Speaker 3: But that's all it is at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 1: So what's your takeaway from the beginning of this obviously
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  Speaker 1: crucial series with the Guardians.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll start with our you know, kind of banner
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  Speaker 2: here on YouTube. It is a tense time. I man,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sensing some tension. I think I've talked about this
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, like when they clinch, is it if
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  Speaker 2: they clinch, is it just coming to be an exhale,
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  Speaker 2: because I think there's a little bit of like an Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we just got to not blow it, Like don't blow it.
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  Speaker 2: And when you're playing that way, that can kind of
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  Speaker 2: take its toll. If we had ajax one here to
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  Speaker 2: give it another motivational speech, I think it'd be to
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  Speaker 2: flip the mindset from don't blow it to like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: just go win it. Just go win it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in that vein, we shouldn't lose sight. The Tigers played
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  Speaker 2: a pretty good game on Tuesday night. I mean it
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  Speaker 2: was a classic Tigers Guardians game. It was for the
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  Speaker 2: most part, pretty good baseball. It was entertaining, it was
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  Speaker 2: exciting again Casey Mii's third straight outing where he showed
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  Speaker 2: really good stuff, the best his splitter has looked in
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  Speaker 2: a long time. Yeah, Like they lose the game, mis
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  Speaker 2: left outing a little frustrated, but I was really impressed.
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  Speaker 2: If he can keep doing that, you start feeling pretty
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  Speaker 2: good about where what he can be for you in
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs all over again. But I also wrote that
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  Speaker 2: the Tigers have kind of been stuck in neutral for
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. Think back to early in the season
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  Speaker 2: when it just felt like everything was going their way
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  Speaker 2: all the time, and now it's kind of like, well,
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  Speaker 2: Rafael Montero faces four dudes, punches them all out. But
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  Speaker 2: then you bring in will vest and he just hasn't
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  Speaker 2: had the same velocity. He's throwing around ninety five instead
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  Speaker 2: of ninety eight ninety nine. In the Guardians punch a
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  Speaker 2: couple balls that aren't even in the strike zone for
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  Speaker 2: extra bases, and then he makes one mistake and it
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  Speaker 2: gets clobbered, and then next thing you know, you look
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  Speaker 2: up and you're down four runs. You know, myce pitch
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  Speaker 2: as well, but he doesn't cover first. Twirklesen has a
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  Speaker 2: great game but kind of misplays a hard hit ball
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  Speaker 2: with a weird hop and gets thrown out trying to
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  Speaker 2: take second on a ball in the dirt. This is
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  Speaker 2: just how it's been. It's like been this push and
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  Speaker 2: pull and they just can't quite get everything going at
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  Speaker 2: the same time. I don't know if there's an explanation
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  Speaker 2: for that. Maybe that's quote unquote just baseball, but it
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  Speaker 2: also feels like maybe a symptom of like I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if it's a symptom of the tension or if
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  Speaker 2: the tension is creating this play. I'm the Tigers are
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  Speaker 2: up five and a half games in the Al Central
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  Speaker 2: with eleven games left. It would take a pretty epic
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  Speaker 2: collapse to blow this. You'd pretty much have to lose
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  Speaker 2: out to the Guardians most likely. But it's a little
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: bit uncomfortable. The Seattle Mariners have won ten in a row,
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  Speaker 2: You're only two games above them. For that buy that
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  Speaker 2: kind of was seeming automatic. Now it's like the same automatic. Boys,
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  Speaker 2: you could be in that wild card series that no
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  Speaker 2: one wants to be in. So these are reasons it
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  Speaker 2: is kind of tense times. With eleven games left, you'd
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  Speaker 2: like maybe a win on Wednesday, you feel better all
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  Speaker 2: over again. But yeah, there's kind of a lot going
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  Speaker 2: on and it's uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's it's unfamiliar. I mean, it's unfamiliar for a
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  Speaker 1: large group of the fan base. Obviously, the younger fan
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  Speaker 1: base hasn't seen this kind of competitive ball this late
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  Speaker 1: in the year. Obviously, outside of last year, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: winning the division and uh potentially and it's unfamiliar for
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  Speaker 1: them because every now and then I kind of I
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  Speaker 1: try to like clarify my thoughts on whether this is
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  Speaker 1: in and we'll kind of get to this uh here
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  Speaker 1: in a second, but whether this is like in the
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  Speaker 1: like a battle tested team or still like a young team,
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  Speaker 1: because sometimes it feels like both at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: And there and and if you look at the quotes
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  Speaker 1: that are in your story, I would encourage everybody to
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: go read it on the athletic is that like it
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  Speaker 1: feels like a team that has been through some things
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  Speaker 1: but hasn't been through everything and they and they and
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  Speaker 1: and and trying to assess what's going on. It comes
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  Speaker 1: across in their quotes. Nobody's said anything bad but or
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  Speaker 1: or like incorrect or like, oh I don't like that mentality,
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  Speaker 1: but you could just tell it's like it they like
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  Speaker 1: maybe like two more years of baseball experience, they would
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  Speaker 1: have this kind of mindset thing like down pat The
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  Speaker 1: problem is that doesn't help you, you know, here in
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  Speaker 1: late September, so uh.
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  Speaker 2: Kieran, I think that's shown up a little bit, like
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  Speaker 2: the lack of real proven veterans. I mean, I guess
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  Speaker 2: you have Hobby by as you traded for some guys
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  Speaker 2: with experience, but they haven't really been like an actual
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  Speaker 2: big part of the fabric of the team. I guess
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  Speaker 2: Finnegan maybe could count in that. Although how much competitive
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  Speaker 2: baseball is he actually played, you don't you stilln't have
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  Speaker 2: that many guys who have been there and done it
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  Speaker 2: and can just be like, all right, we got this.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if that shows up a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you'd like to see you like to
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  Speaker 1: see more like kind of come out of nowhere moments
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  Speaker 1: like that Jake Rogers come out of nowhere pinch hit
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  Speaker 1: moment there would have been would have been fun, and
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  Speaker 1: that would have been in characteristic of the team. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it didn't work out that time, but there's
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  Speaker 1: still there's still in a position that most teams are
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  Speaker 1: envious of across Major League Baseball. So that is that
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  Speaker 1: is also important to note. Still you gotta play the
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  Speaker 1: games in front of you. So we'll see what happens
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday and Thursday. All right, we are going to take
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  Speaker 1: a quick break, and then after that, Cody and I
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  Speaker 1: are gonna have a little draft Drafting are ride or
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  Speaker 1: die guys, Guys that we're going to ride or that
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  Speaker 1: you would want to ride or die with on this
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  Speaker 1: team as you get to the postseason and then odds
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  Speaker 1: on in the postseason.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, coming back here to kind of explain this
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: gimmick a little bit more. It's basically like guys that like,
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  Speaker 1: however the result plays out, you are comfortable with putting
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: your trust in their hands, their playing ability or maybe
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: their managing ability. So I'll take first pick because this
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: was my idea. I Am going to take aj Hinch
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  Speaker 1: for all these reasons that we that we just talked about,
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: and and and and the way that the Tigers have
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: been formed, the way that they are talk like talked
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: about by people in the game and add of the game.
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  Speaker 1: It all comes back to a reflection and respect for
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  Speaker 1: a j Hinch. He yea with respect to other managers,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to say, like the Tigers start every
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: game with a strategical advantage, but they start every game
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: with a strategical uh, like there is a move that
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: they have that other teams have to consider before anything else.
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  Speaker 1: It's like they have that guy calling the shots. What
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: they say about the Tigers, So, uh, if you're and
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: we talk about youth and all these things, like if
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: there is there's not a better leader for this team,
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  Speaker 1: there's not a guy that's been able to galvanize their
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  Speaker 1: team better in my opinion, uh than what aj Hinch
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  Speaker 1: has been able to do since he took over the Tigers.
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  Speaker 1: And like this season has been in the making for
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: several years now and it's all a reflection of him.
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  Speaker 3: So he's my number one draft pick.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the ace, Trek Scruble boys seems to
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  Speaker 2: be healthy. The Tigers are forty two and eighteen and
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  Speaker 2: Schooble starts over the past two seasons forty two and eighteen.
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  Speaker 2: They are a different team when he is on the mound.
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  Speaker 2: You look curly around the league. Is there any other
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  Speaker 2: player that means as much to their team right now
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  Speaker 2: as Tarek Scuball, a pitcher who doesn't even play every
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: single day. I'm not sure I can come up with anyone.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you could say like Aaron Judge
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  Speaker 2: or something that.
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  Speaker 3: It's like an MVP case Cody, which I've been saying.
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  Speaker 2: For a bit, Well, he's not gonna win MVP here,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know if he paid attention to what
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  Speaker 2: Judge and cal Raley are doing, but man, he's he
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  Speaker 2: is certainly very valuable to the Tigers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he can't.
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  Speaker 1: Can't criticize that pick at all. I'm sticking I'm sticking
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  Speaker 1: with U with the coaching staff, and I'm going with
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  Speaker 1: Alex Cora.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: This feels weird, given you're not going with Alex Cora. Yeah,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: I am.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Joey Korra Sorry, Yeah, that's a that's a that's a
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: that's a me l right there.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Oh oh what a bad draft pick?
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, actually Alex Cora would be a good draft pick.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: He is quite a good manager.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: But Joey Korra uh in in the in this case
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: because again it's the trust factor. Like like, the Tigers
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: have been successful in a large part because of the
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: trust that they have put into Joey Korra. Uh you know,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: and in the preparation that he that he brings and
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: not not to mention just in field play. Let's not
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: you know you talk about like what col Keith has
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: had to go through this year. Uh we I think
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: we both agree that Labor Torres has been better as
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: an infield defender than we would have necessarily expected coming
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: into this year. Uh and and and no matter who
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: is coming, they've all bought into Joey Korra's like Mantra
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: and and also like like if he if if he
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: told me like I have to take the extra base,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: I'm just doing it like no questions asked. He's a
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: no questions ask coach. So I'm going with Joey Cora.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Hmm, all right. I feel like I'm gonna keep building
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: a baseball team full of baseball players. But I see
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: your approach if we're talking Ryder or Die, like who's solid?
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Who do you know what you're getting from? Quorra and
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Hinge Right, they fit that Bill and Scooble fits that Bill,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: And I look at some of these other guys like, well,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what to expect, but I'm gonna
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: take Dylan Dingler. Okay, guy's young man. We keep forgetting
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: he's in his first full MLB season. He barely played
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: in last year's playoffs. This will be a different test
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: for him. But you want someone who's steady, man, you
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: want someone who's kind of become a subtle leader. I'm
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: going Dylan Dingler. I've heard a lot of people likening
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: him to Lance Parrish lately and that he's just kind
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: of this stoic, kind of silent, but kind of this gladiator,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: and he really is those things. I feel really good
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: about Dingler calling a good game, playing good defense, being
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: able to contribute out the plate, being steady no matter
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: the stage, giving the catcher's importance to the team. Given
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: the years Dingler is having, I'll ride or die with
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: that guy, all right.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I like that, Uh, you know, in regards to Dingler,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I've been impressed with his command of the team, and
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I mean that with like just obviously the you know,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: the calling, calling the games, and also just like being
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: able to know when his pitchers need like a second
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: to get you know, get the umpires out of there,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: you know, especially school bl or whatever. Like he has
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: a good he has an amazing feel for a guy
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: who is just over one year of major league service time,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: and I can't wait to see what he what he
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: does in the postseason.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Uh, I'm gonna go with.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: What could have been the hero of h of last night,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: but still a you know, a feather in his cap
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: to to his ability and what he brings to the table,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: and that's Kerry Carpenter.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Carry Carpenter.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: We all remember the home run off Class A last year,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: but he was also three oh way in the Alds
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: like like he was one of your And again there
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: the what if factor. We don't play that because it
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter, but what if he doesn't strain his hamstring?
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: He still managed to hit three oh eight and he
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: almost had another home run in that series, if you
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: guys will recall.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Uh So, I.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Think Carry Carpenter is very deserving to be at the
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: top of this list. Uh And I I want to
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: remind everybody that just because they lost that game does
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: not take away from that moment.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Was that his first career pinch hit home run.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: He had been he had no way, right, no way.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I'll have to look that up, but but yeah, Carry
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Carpenter is a guy who has proven time and time
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: again to come up in big moments, So like, that's
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: who I'm going with big moments.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I'm sure there will be some big moments and big
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: abs for him in the postseason. It's one reason I
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: wouldn't really want to see the Boston Red Sox knowing
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: you're gonna have at least two Crochet starts where Carpenter
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: could be on the bench for the vast majority of
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: those games. I guess you'd say the same with rodn
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: and the Yankees, But uh, Crochet especially, that guy's probably
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: going six or seven, and that's going to keep, in theory,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: carp out of the game. So I don't like that.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Who else are we riding or dying with? It's a
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: harder question than you would think. Why are we not
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: leaping to take Riley Green? Probably because he's streaky, But
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Riley Green. Riley Green's a good player.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Riley Green can be a difference maker. He's a bat
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: other managers don't want to see coming up. He's whether
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: it's pretty or not, He's gonna play his heart out
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: in the field. He does a lot of things that
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: impact the baseball game. You gotta hope Riley's hitting a
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: little bit and not in one of these dry spells
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: during the playoffs. But you kind of got to dance
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: with the ones who brung you in the postseason, and
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Riley Green's a big guy who got you here. I'll take.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: That was cart Carpenter's first career pinch hit home run.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: And he's only had two home runs when he subbed
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: in his career. So you know, interesting interests that there. Okay, yeah,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I mean that's a that's that's a good pick.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: I'm going with.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Parker Meadows. Parker Meadows, we know what he we know
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: what he does for this team when he is in
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: the lineup. I'm liking that he's getting starts against lefties.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: And you know I'm looking for comfort, you know, comfort
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: whenever he's in the box and and comfortable enough that
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I feel like, yes, give him those that bets.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: He people forget because.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Of what Andy A Bonyez did and then in Game
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: two of the Wildcard series, but let's not forget that
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Parker Meadows hit a home run off the foul pole
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: in that game that you know, got got that game
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: because that was a stone wall game and he was
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: able to to break the seal, so that was important,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: and then still managed to nearly hit three hundred in
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the Alds and had a hit in every single postseason
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: game last year. And you mentioned his defense or what
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: he can do obviously running the base pass. So Parker meadows,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I'll ride or die with that guy.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: There you go. Glaber's still available, right, yep, I'm taking Glaber.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: You talk about the picture of steadiness. I know his
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: performance hasn't been as good in the second half, but
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I think he's he's starting to find that form again.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Right handed bat, he can neutralize some of those lefty
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: starters we were just talking about. He is someone managers
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: don't want their lefties to face. He can kind of
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: impact how aj Hinch manages the game. And the dude's
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: just steady. He's probably gonna give you a good at bat.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: If he can get hot a little bit, man be
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: able to set that table a little bit in the
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: one or two spot, your order goes a long way.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Labor's Labor's kind of been the definition of rider die.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I kinda I kind of regret that he's going this
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: low and this this year draft.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: All right, for the record, Labor Torres forty five postseason
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: games forty five.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: In his career, talks about those veterans.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Labors that average.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: With a seven ninety five ops. Also, interestingly, he is
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: six for six in or six and six I should
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: say six and six in series. So the next postseason
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: series will determine whether he's a five hundred or or
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: worse postseason player when it comes to series. So we
• 24:40
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• 24:44
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  Speaker 1: All right, coming back here, I wanted to make a
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: little note as we interrupt our draft. Is that when
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: you a lot of times when you do re ch
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: for things, like you know, like we do in this podcast,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: you like realize stuff that like you probably already knew,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: but it's just like it's in your face. And one
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: of those is that the difference between a three game
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: series and a five game series. Obviously, in the three
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: game series last year, it only lasted two because the
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Tigers won both games against the Astros, But like, you
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: look at batting performances in those smaller sample sizes and
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: then you look at them versus just a little bit
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: larger sample size over the course of five games, and
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: you see that guys settling in. You see like, you know,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: just better numbers, and it kind of emphasizes like what
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: this team is built for. This team is not built
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: like I know they played three game series throughout the season,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: but like everything on the line, like, it's not necessarily
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: built to win a three game playoff series. It's built
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: to win a five and a seven game playoff series.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: More so is it? Well, yeah, because if you're playing the.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Starting pitching to be built for a seven game.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Built for and what the results that that have come
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: through with injuries and stuff is a little bit different.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: But like, uh, but like you know, the power elements
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: of like the Yankees or whatever like that that that
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: plays a lot better in a shorter sample size.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: All you need is judge and we saw it. All
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: you need is judge Gia Carlo to go yard.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: And you know, and then it's like their equivalent of
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: starting Terek School in one game. So so so yeah,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: so over the course of a series, the advantages that
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: you know, top two guys I'm on my squad a j.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Hinch and Joey Korra, you know, play out a little
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: bit better of the course of five or seven games.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: So uh, just a little fun little side note with
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: this exercise, which.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Brings me to.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Will Vest now we're recording this obviously right after Will
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Vest had himself a uh a down outing and in
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: some ways not playing blame. But you know, giving up
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: a four spot there, uh to begin extra, I'm sure
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: the winning percentage is quite low when you give up
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: four to be to begin extra inded. So so put
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: him in the in the in the hole. They're pretty
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: bad and it was more or less done from there.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: But Nee, I remind you that last postseason he pitched
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: six innings, he gave up three hits, he gave up
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: one run, and he had nine case. So like, in
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: terms of the rider die mentality and what we know
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: about Will Vest and his ability to come up big,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to overreact to to one game, but
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I'm still I'm still putting Will Vest on my squad.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Wasn't he throwing like ninety nine one hundred in the
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: playoffs last year? He was? Well, we got to stop
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: acting like Will Vest at ninety five is like, okay,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: nothing to see here, something's not right there. I gotta
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: hope he's healthy. Maybe it's just like a long season,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of appearances, but still, man, you got to
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: you gotta get the best version of his fastball. I'm
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: looking at this pitching staff here and I feel like
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I need to draft a picture, and I feel like
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: this says a lot about the team and that I
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: don't really want to draft any of these pictures. Some
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: of them can be good, but I don't. I just don't.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Aj Hinch said Tuesday, I think we're a deeper team
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: than we've been given credit. And that felt to me, like,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: stop stop saying our pitching is thin. All right, it's
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: deep in that well. You have Seawall f Finnigan coming back.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I could be talked into taking Kyle Finnigan right here.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: But just because you have a lot of them doesn't
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: mean you feel good about any of them. And I
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: think that's the issue. Just to take a picture, I'm
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: gonna take Tyler Holten. Tyler Holten hasn't quite been the
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: same guy, or at least hasn't quite got the same
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: results this season. He's had some better outings lately's has
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: still had a couple outings where things haven't gotten his way.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: But you know, Tyler Holton is going to be in
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: some big spots in the playoffs. You know aj Hinch
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: is going to bring him in for a pot I
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: could have lefties when it matters most. He's not quite
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: the Holt in the last year, but he's probably gonna
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: give you a competitive efforts. I think he's gonna factor
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: in big time. Good or bad. He's been He's been
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: there a little bit. It's guy's throwing a lot of
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: innings for you. He deserves some trust. So I'll take
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Tyler Holton here.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: So I was looking at the I was looking at
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: the pitching usage from the Alds last season. Obviously school
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: bol just innings, just endings, just flat out endings. School
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: ball with thirteens. He made two starts. Resultson basically made
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: two starts. I know he came in for your aforementioned
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Holton game in game one of the DS last last year,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: but it's all for Sometimes you forget how much they
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: relied on bow Briski, who made an appearance and for
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: four or five games. Uh, you know Montero pitched three
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: innings in that series. You know, Sewn Gunn there, you know,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: got in three games of that series. Jackson job was
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: in there time Madden. There was a tie Madden appearance
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: in the post. And so like that goes to show
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: just like how things can change for better or for
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: worse over the course of a year, and how the
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Tigers also approach the pitching. So you know what, in that,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: in that regard, I'm gonna go ahead and draft Chris
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Fetter because because if the if the pitching staff is
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: you know, not as thin as you think it is,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: and you have all these names, and hell, maybe Montero
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: is a guy, you know what I mean?
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: And Raphael in this case like it. There's gotta be some.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Credit going around somewhere. And we haven't really we the collective,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: we haven't really been singing the praises of Chris Feedder
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: as much this year for you know, whatever reason. But
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: he's still a guy that I'm ryan or dining dying
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: with with his with his game planning, with his coaching
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: and game and coaching, and with his ability to build
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: with aj a pitching plan and a pitching staff on
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: the series a series game to game basis.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. I mentioned Kyle Finnigan.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: I'll take him. He's you know a few dream of
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: the best case scenario could be him or vest get
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: any of that last out of the World Series. Losing
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: the time with the injury hurts but he's really good
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: as the Tiger. You look at the Babbitt numbers and
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: all that, like, he's probably gonna give up another run
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: at some point in time. But Kyle Finnigan is going
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: to pitch leverage innings for the Detroit Tigers in the playoffs.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: He's a very good pitcher. He's pitched in the ninth
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: inning for the most of his major league career. Seems
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: very excited to be on this team, to be able
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: to pitch in the postseason. I mean, I'm gonna take
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Kyle Finnigan. I think he was easily the best for
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: your trade deadline acquisitions, and that's going to be tested,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: you know, in October when it matters most.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to take Spencer Torklsen, who did
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: not have like jump off the page numbers in last
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: year's postseason. But last year's Torglsen was is not this
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: year's Torkalsen. He did manage to get three extra base hits,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: all doubles against Cleveland last last alds And you know,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: we understand the defensive elements of this, but we also
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: know what can be done offensively. And he had himself
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: a great day yesterday. So I don't feel like I'm
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: overreacting by taking him this late, but certain at a
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: certain point your ride or die.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Like he's better in leverage, I think.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Then some people will give him credit for I'll verify
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: that stat but you could do a lot worse this
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: late in the draft, with drafting a thirty home run
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: hitter to come up in big spots.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Give me, Andy, there you go, he's a hero. We'll
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: see how how much he plays whatever. I mean, let's
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: talk about Crochet. Just talked about rod On and he's
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: gonna get some run in the playoffs. He's been there,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: He's done it. This is what he's built for that
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: late inning leverage. It bat been pretty good since coming back. Actually,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: if you look at his numbers, they've they've tapered off
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: a little bit since he was red hot coming back
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: from Toledo. But Andy, Man, I'll take that guy in
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: a pinch anytime.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just follow up on Torque real quick. I agree.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: We saw it last year. Two outs Mars at scoring position.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Spencer Torkelsen is a two seventy four hitter with a
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: eight forty three oh ps. You could do a lot
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: worse at this point in the draft.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Let me go with.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Let me go with hobby bias, hobby bias, hobby bias
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: for the simple this for a couple of simple reasons. One,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: we you know, there is experience there again, not eye
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: popping numbers in the postseas in his career. He does
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: have a World Series Game seven home run. That's not nothing.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: And he is somebody that you're definitely gonna have to
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: ride or die on defensively. Uh In I mean he
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: made a nice play on the on the play at
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: home yesterday. Uh, You're gonna have to ride or die
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: with his defense because for all of his offensive faults,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: you just can't can't play Tray Sweeney in these spots.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: And and against lefties, you're not gonna probably put zach
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Kinstry right now at short stop. So so that is that,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: That's that's my reasoning. There is a moment, there is experience,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: and like you're gonna have to rely on him in
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: some way.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna take winsle pearz a little late round
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: value here. How many times have we seen winsle pears
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: change the dynamic of a game this season?
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Almost happened yesterday almost.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: The answer is a lot. This guy can create chaos
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: and in a lot of ways not always pretty in
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: the field, but he's made some big plays, not afraid
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: to go take that extra base. He's come up with
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: a lot of big swings for this team. He is
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: not a perfect player, but he's a pretty good baseball
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: player who can kind of help you really, you know,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: in a five tool type manner. So sign me up
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: for for winsl Perez. If you want to take a
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: pick for an unlikely playoff hero, I think he would
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: fit the bill.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, except in my mind, I don't even think, Like
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: in my mind, I don't even think it'd be that
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: unlikely for the reasons that you just laid out there,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: like the national people. Yes, but like in my mind,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm heavily valuing, heavily valuing Wenzelle Perez. Again, I'm
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: just gonna go with the experience thing. I'm gonna go
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: with Jack Flaherty. We know the Jack Flarity experience. We've
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: lived the Jack Flarity experience. But I'm gonna give respect
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: to a man that has a World Series ring and
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: it wasn't eight years ago, it was last year. We
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: consider the Dodgers a well run, smart team and they
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: relied on Jack Flearry down the stretch last year. So
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: that's that's my analysis right there. It's gotta be worse something.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: All right. I don't know how many rounds were going here,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: all right. I think we'd be remiss if someone didn't
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: take Zach mckinstrey. There's pretty much no one Scott Harris
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: and aj Hinch have road or died with over the
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: last two years like Zach McKinstry. This is a guy
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: that they have stuck it out with through a lot
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: of lean times and then celebrated as he was good
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: at last year in August and celebrated as he had
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: himself an All Star first half. He has played. You know,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: we referred to him as a utility guy, super utility guy.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: He has played one hundred and thirty four games this season.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: He has been an everyday player, even though he's playing
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: all around the diamond, still having himself a nice year,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: even if the second half production has been the same.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: He's gonna play a lot for you in the playoffs.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: You're gonna need him offensively, defensively. They've trusted this guy
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: through so much, and in a lot of ways he
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: is He has rewarded that trust. Let's see if he
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: can do it in the playoffs. McKinstry's hitting just two
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: ten with a six forty six ops since the All
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Star break. Be nice if he could get you going
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: a little bit, all.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Right, And I'll just go ahead and make the last
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: pick here as we're approaching forty minutes of this episode.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: It's more of a respect thing.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I want to see what you want to talk about
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: could be surprising heroes. Colt Keith is a guy that
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: would that would fit into that list. I think we
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: all we all see the upside. We all see glimpses
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: of the upside. He obviously hasn't put together. He's also
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: a very very young player, didn't do anything much of
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: note in last season's playoffs. But again, with a lot
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: of these guys, how valuable was last year's run? Well later, tonight, tomorrow,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: the rest of the regular season and into the postseason,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: We're gonna probably get a lot of that answer. Because
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Cole Keith is a guy that he has been through
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: a lot in his in his major league career, and
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: it would and I think he'd be somebody.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Deserving of one of those like postseason moments. So I'm
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: gonna take cold Keith there.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: All right. My final pick will be Troy Melton. Okay,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: he's a rookie, you know, I don't know if we
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: can ride or die with him. There's not a lot
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: of enough sample to really know. But he's been damn
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: good since the Tigers brought him aboard. He has the
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: type of stuff that can play against anyone. We know
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: that they have used him strategically in part so he
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: will be available for you in the playoffs. You know,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be like a game three, Game four bullpen
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Day type thing where you're probably gonna need two, three
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: four innings from Troy Melton, and how that goes could
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: determine whether you win. You know, that Game three, that
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Game four. Right now, he's shown every reason to have
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: a lot of trust in him. A lotst couple of
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: performances haven't been as good, at least results wise, but
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: it's in there and we will see if But that
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: betting that much on a rookie was the right decision.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: I'll ride or die with Troy Melton.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Well, you gotta you know the Tigers are ryan or
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: dying with the decision to not stretch him out at
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: any point and make him a starter. So I mean
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: that that that's just what's happened, and so hopefully he
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: gets a good run in the postseason to kind of
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: validate that a little bit, because yeah, the stuff and
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: the guy is hard not to root for or believe it.
• 40:42
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