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Cardinals legend Adam Wainwright joins Ravech’s Dirt From The Dugout · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Let's bring in a guy who's got two hundred career wins.
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  Speaker 1: He is absolutely outstanding, probably a better person than he
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  Speaker 1: is a good picture, and this is a Hall of
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  Speaker 1: Fame picture in my opinion. Wayno, thanks for joining us
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  Speaker 1: here on dr from the dugout man. We know this
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  Speaker 1: is going to be a great forty five minutes. So
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  Speaker 1: thanks very much.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me on. Appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we know, and we take it very serious
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  Speaker 3: when you're when you're grilling some ribs. So I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna have to cut Ravi off here at times tonight.
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  Speaker 4: But if we have to, we do it.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 4: That's how he works, right for.
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  Speaker 2: Four Rex of Saint Louis cuts and the smoker right now,
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  Speaker 2: eat that.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, So this this show is really designed for you
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  Speaker 1: to share your experiences us to kind of ask you
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  Speaker 1: some questions about about the ups, the downs, the challenges.
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  Speaker 1: Because there's a lot of parents out there of young kids.
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  Speaker 1: You are a parent of many young children involved with
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  Speaker 1: softball and baseball. You've seen just about everything from the
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  Speaker 1: theater of the absurd to what you would say is
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  Speaker 1: like geeze, that is just that that parent just nailed it.
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  Speaker 1: So that's really our goal tonight. We'll get the questions
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  Speaker 1: in the chap, but I want to go back to
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  Speaker 1: sort of the beginning for Weno. When when was it
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  Speaker 1: that you, you know, your brother, you all decided, you know,
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  Speaker 1: what baseball is our life, It's going to be our life.
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  Speaker 1: Was that a conscious decision at a particular age.
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  Speaker 2: It was happened very organically. I mean, I think there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people just like me that grew up
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  Speaker 2: in the nineties that were watching TVs. Every night. Braves
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  Speaker 2: games were on TV. I mean, no matter whether you
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  Speaker 2: were in California or Georgia, Braves game was on TV
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  Speaker 2: at seven thirty five on the East Coast and four
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  Speaker 2: thirty five on the Pacific Coast. I mean, it just
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  Speaker 2: was every single night, and we patterned our days around it,
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  Speaker 2: and we sat down at dinner with my whole high
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  Speaker 2: school years, we had a tray in our lap watching
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  Speaker 2: watching all those Braves games. But you know, before that
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  Speaker 2: and we were sitting at the table watching Braids games
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  Speaker 2: or making sure we were done in time to watch
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  Speaker 2: Braids games or whatever. But I was, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: was taught from a very young age by my brother
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  Speaker 2: how to watch a game in a different way probably
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  Speaker 2: than the most uh five six seven, all the way
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  Speaker 2: up to high school kid age. We're watching it. You know,
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  Speaker 2: my brother's a valedictorian, magna cum assume, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: all the lot ofs from college. You know, he was,
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  Speaker 2: he's the smartest kid in every school, in the school
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  Speaker 2: that we've ever had. And he he was, he was.
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  Speaker 2: He watched things on a deeper level, you know what.
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  Speaker 2: He taught me the why behind things, and and was
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  Speaker 2: reading books on pitching and clipping out articles about Maddox
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  Speaker 2: and Glavin and Smoltz and putting it on my wall
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  Speaker 2: and highlighting little things they said. And we're watching Smoltz
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  Speaker 2: watches watches, Look at his face, Look how intense he is,
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  Speaker 2: or watch Glavin's expressions, and watch how you never know
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  Speaker 2: what the score is on him. And rather than just
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  Speaker 2: you know, looking at the score or watching a hit
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  Speaker 2: or whatever, he was saying, no, watch the little play
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  Speaker 2: behind that. And I'm just so grateful for that, because
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  Speaker 2: you know, even if it didn't click in right away,
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  Speaker 2: it was setting the it was setting the structure for
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  Speaker 2: learning how to pitch and play the game in a better,
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  Speaker 2: more complete way than just watching it. And moving on
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  Speaker 2: with my life. So I think it happened at an
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  Speaker 2: early age, right around those Braves games times.
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  Speaker 1: That's interesting, you know, it's just quickly, just let me
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  Speaker 1: follow up. I mean, how how young were you when
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  Speaker 1: you first heard Charlie say I want you to watch this?
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  Speaker 1: And at what age did you grasp it? Because you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you were seven ten, but you
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  Speaker 1: must have been like, dude, can I just watch the game?
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  Speaker 1: Or were you like that's really interesting? I should do well.
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  Speaker 2: He was seven years older than me, and I thought
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  Speaker 2: anything he did or said was the coolest thing in
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  Speaker 2: the world. Okay, older brothers Are and Trey had me
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  Speaker 2: in the backyard throwing off a mound he built my
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  Speaker 2: He built me a pitching mount in the backyard with
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  Speaker 2: a net that until about three years ago still stood. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: He he did a strike zone made out a rope,
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  Speaker 2: and he painted the outside of the strike zone white
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  Speaker 2: and literally until last year, that thing was there, uh
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  Speaker 2: still in the backyard. The mound was gone. When we
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  Speaker 2: didn't we couldn't afford clay, so he dug down real deep,
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  Speaker 2: got that good brown dirt and uh made it. It's
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  Speaker 2: like he was doing his Eagle Scout project over here,
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  Speaker 2: and he was building my mound over here, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And uh, and I just look back on that. There
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  Speaker 2: was so many times where I was throwing to the
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  Speaker 2: little white part of the rope rather than to the
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  Speaker 2: big part of the strike zone. You know. It's just
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  Speaker 2: good practice from an early age. But I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: be a professional baseball player since I was three years old.
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  Speaker 2: I mean really, I got pictures of Dale Murphy Jersey's
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  Speaker 2: number three jersey, you know, everywhere I went. It was
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  Speaker 2: just the coolest man.
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  Speaker 3: It was.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, it was a big part of my life. I
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  Speaker 2: It's the only job I ever wanted to do. It's
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  Speaker 2: the only job I ever said to a teacher that
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to do. And they asked me, like, what
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  Speaker 2: do you want to do for? What else do you
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  Speaker 2: want to do? Since that's probably not going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: I never had a backup plan, which I think is
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  Speaker 2: you know, some people would say is risky, but I
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  Speaker 2: think it's a really great way to live your life.
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  Speaker 2: Never having a backup plant lets you allow you to
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  Speaker 2: to put everything you got into the thing you're trying
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  Speaker 2: to accomplish. So, you know, if it hadn't worked out,
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  Speaker 2: Then you pivot and you move on. But never had
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  Speaker 2: a second thought about what I was going to do
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  Speaker 2: for a profession.
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  Speaker 3: Good for you, well cool man, So we know, you
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  Speaker 3: know obviously it's a long journey, and I think you
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  Speaker 3: know there's there are many people involved, there's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of time involved and discipline. When do you feel like
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  Speaker 3: you just really locked in on becoming the greatest pitcher
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  Speaker 3: that you can What age was that where in your
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  Speaker 3: mind it was like, I can go get this thing.
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  Speaker 4: When did it click for you?
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  Speaker 2: I went to play for a summer ball team that
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  Speaker 2: called the Savannah Chain and UH going to the big tournaments,
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  Speaker 2: going traveling around. We won our state tournament, won our
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  Speaker 2: regional tournament up in Virginia, and played in the Little
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  Speaker 2: in the UH in the Baby Ruth World Series up
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  Speaker 2: in UH in the in Connecticut when I was a
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  Speaker 2: junior in high school, and right about that junior year
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  Speaker 2: time was when I started to UH kind of separate
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  Speaker 2: myself from the other good players in our area where
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  Speaker 2: I really like, I always said I wanted to be
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  Speaker 2: a professional UH baseball player. I always said that I
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  Speaker 2: was gonna be great winside young's whatever, which I never
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  Speaker 2: did but I always said that.
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  Speaker 1: Two second places though, yeah, yeh two different couple for
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  Speaker 1: close calls.
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  Speaker 2: For close calls. But uh so that's beside the point, Carl.
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  Speaker 2: Not that I'm bitter about it, but uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think it was my junior year when I started
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  Speaker 2: to believe that, oh okay, yeah, this actually is possible.
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  Speaker 2: And that's when I started getting, you know, kind of
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  Speaker 2: looked at. Scouts started coming around a little bit more,
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  Speaker 2: and junior year of high schools, like having multiple, like
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  Speaker 2: ten or twenty scouts in the stand at all my
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  Speaker 2: games and stuff. That was that's a really cool experience
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  Speaker 2: for a kid. I hope they still do that for
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  Speaker 2: kids nowadays and that, but that, you know, even then though,
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  Speaker 2: even with with that, it really wasn't until I wish
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  Speaker 2: y'all could see this. My wife is making the goofiest
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  Speaker 2: dance behind me, trying to make me smile. Even even
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  Speaker 2: after that, though, it was years down the road where
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  Speaker 2: I still had to make a lot of adjustments. I
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  Speaker 2: still had to There's a there's levels to it. As
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  Speaker 2: Tierryn Ree would say when he was breaking down the
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  Speaker 2: World Cup levels, levels, he kept staying levels, Uh, there's
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  Speaker 2: levels to mental strength and belief that you have to
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  Speaker 2: get to be a great big league player, a good
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  Speaker 2: big league player, even make it to the big leagues,
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  Speaker 2: but to stay there especially, there's levels to it. You
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  Speaker 2: can kind of believe and make it off talent, but
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  Speaker 2: you've got to really believe to stay there.
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  Speaker 1: We got questions here for you. Here we go with
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  Speaker 1: the first one from line. You came back from TJ surgery,
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  Speaker 1: you had your achilles, two of the most brutal injuries
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  Speaker 1: that a baseball player can deal with. So those are
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  Speaker 1: probably dark moments, especially in the moment that it happens.
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  Speaker 1: What did those moments teach you about yourself?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I developed two great hobbies in those in those
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  Speaker 2: time frames too. In twenty eleven I learned how to
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  Speaker 2: garden and grow things and picked up a love that's
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  Speaker 2: got me. Now got a big old farm. We're trying
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  Speaker 2: to feed a bunch of people. And in fifteen I
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  Speaker 2: picked up a hobby of playing the guitar a little
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  Speaker 2: bit on a deeper level and writing songs. And now
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  Speaker 2: I'm yeah, I've already you can see what we'll see
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  Speaker 2: if I guess right now this one. Got to play
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  Speaker 2: the Grand Old Opry twice and touring around a little
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  Speaker 2: bit playing some country music. So you know, there's not
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  Speaker 2: all bad things. But those were two injuries in the
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  Speaker 2: prime of my career. I mean, if I could have
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  Speaker 2: those back, there's no question in my mind, I'm winning
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  Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty games easily in those seasons, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And we're talking about different numbers at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day. And then you add covid on. You can
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  Speaker 2: a what if all you want to, but I'll tell
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  Speaker 2: you what what. I just don't have a bone to
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  Speaker 2: quit in my body. And so that's why you saw
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  Speaker 2: me with a seventy ar a my last season, because
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  Speaker 2: I had to, like somebody had to basically pull me
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  Speaker 2: off this field because I just don't quit. I always
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  Speaker 2: think I'm one pitch away from figuring it out, you know,
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  Speaker 2: And with those injuries, I think, just as in life,
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  Speaker 2: you can look at it in two ways. You can
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  Speaker 2: you can get sad about it and depressed and get
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  Speaker 2: down yourself and pout, or you can and pick yourself
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  Speaker 2: up by your bootstraps and be the best at rehab
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  Speaker 2: that you possibly can to come back and be a
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  Speaker 2: great player and be a great teammate in the process.
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  Speaker 2: It was very, very important to me as I was
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  Speaker 2: going through the rehab process that I wanted to be
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  Speaker 2: a great teammate, to be a resource, to be something
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  Speaker 2: that was going to be a positive influence on the
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  Speaker 2: guys around me. Nobody wants to have somebody moping around
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  Speaker 2: around them. That's going to bring the ship down, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So I was always very conscious of that. But I
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  Speaker 2: just think that you just can You can't have a
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  Speaker 2: never quit You can't have a quitting attitude and be
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  Speaker 2: great for a long time or very good for a
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  Speaker 2: long time, or have a good long career, because, let's
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  Speaker 2: just face it, in the big league level, you're hurt
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  Speaker 2: all the time. Everything hurts. Your arm hurts, your back hurts,
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  Speaker 2: your knees hurt, your feet hurt, your hips hurt, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like you're pulling muscles. You got to grind through it.
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  Speaker 2: You wake up your crup, your brush, your teeth, and
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's just like games, yeah, hundred
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  Speaker 2: and sixty two and one hundred and eighty. You know,
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  Speaker 2: first starting pitcher thirty two thirty three starts and it
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  Speaker 2: takes three or four days to recover from each one
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  Speaker 2: to get back to pitch the next one. Especially as
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  Speaker 2: you get older, you know, it's just like it. It
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  Speaker 2: takes its toll on you. So you have to be
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  Speaker 2: able to adjust. You have to be able to get up,
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  Speaker 2: stink and shake it off. And you can't be one
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  Speaker 2: of those guys that only pitches when you're one hundred percent. Man,
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  Speaker 2: that's just can't be an ace like that. I'll tell
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  Speaker 2: you that.
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  Speaker 3: So, so we know eighteen years right, eighteen seasons, so
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  Speaker 3: clearly discipline, weekly discipline, daily discipline, and a routine.
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  Speaker 4: It's absolutely critical.
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  Speaker 3: What are some of the things or some of the
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  Speaker 3: tips you would give youth or high school pitchers on
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  Speaker 3: their routines and how they go about their process. I'm
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  Speaker 3: talking like three days before, two days before, leading into it,
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  Speaker 3: the day of. I think youth and high school players
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  Speaker 3: struggle with that, you know excessively. What are some of
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  Speaker 3: your thoughts on just some quick tips you could give
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  Speaker 3: to some of those players listening and watching?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think if you're a young kid, play as
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  Speaker 2: many positions as you can for as long as you can. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: I was I'm so glad glad that they didn't have
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  Speaker 2: picture only things back when I was coming up.
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  Speaker 4: I can't stand that.
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  Speaker 2: I can't stand that premise, hit the ball, run the bases,
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  Speaker 2: learn the agility behind it. Be an athlete, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and look if they take it from you because you're
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  Speaker 2: just not a very good hitter. That's that. Apps like
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  Speaker 2: Michael Waka didn't hit it all in high school, and
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  Speaker 2: I never let him hit it. Hear the end of that,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, what what do you mean? And I
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  Speaker 2: see him hit I'm like, yeah, that makes sense, that's
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  Speaker 2: that's I would have hit for you too. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: I just did play it. Play as many positions. You
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  Speaker 2: can play as many sports as you can, as long
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  Speaker 2: as you can. I really think there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: agilities and skill sets learned. Like basketball, I played basketball
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  Speaker 2: until high school. The sprint, start, stop, change direction like
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  Speaker 2: that's so good for baseball. Played soccer until high school.
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  Speaker 2: Almost gave up baseball for soccer. That would been a
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  Speaker 2: horrible decision. Played soccer, you know, you got to.
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  Speaker 1: Learn the.
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  Speaker 2: Absolute like grind that it is running for ninety minutes,
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  Speaker 2: changing directions up and down the field. I'm down the field.
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  Speaker 2: Played football all the way through high school as a
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver, running out, running posts and post corners and
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  Speaker 2: comebacks and running across the middle and getting my bell
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  Speaker 2: rung and having to get back up. I love football
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  Speaker 2: for that matter, Like for I know it's dangerous sporting
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  Speaker 2: people like, oh, I'm never letting my kid play football.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what, I don't know that if I play.
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  Speaker 2: If I don't play football, I don't know that I'm
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  Speaker 2: making the big leagues as long as I did, because
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  Speaker 2: I have to learn how to get back up. You
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  Speaker 2: have to learn when you get punched in the mouth,
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  Speaker 2: how to keep going. Had to call play. I played
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  Speaker 2: quarterback until my junior year. I had to call a
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  Speaker 2: play when you got no air because you got the
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  Speaker 2: wind knocked out of you know, like all those times
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  Speaker 2: later on the big leagues when my back was a
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  Speaker 2: little laky, I was like, yeah, but you know, Derek
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  Speaker 2: Magwood dead centered me right in the sternum as I
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  Speaker 2: was running a backside dig and I got my wind
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  Speaker 2: knocked out of me and I couldn't see straight for
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  Speaker 2: you know, a couple of seconds. But then I got
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  Speaker 2: back up and I ran my next you know dig route.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like, I just love that about about different
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  Speaker 2: sports and learning different things. But also as you get older,
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  Speaker 2: I would say, make sure you take time to recover.
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  Speaker 2: And as I look back at the end of my career,
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  Speaker 2: I really wish I would have taken like it was
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  Speaker 2: like it was always about going harder and lifting more
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  Speaker 2: and that and that in some ways is really good
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  Speaker 2: because you're pushing yourself. And then sometimes like I wish
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  Speaker 2: I could have done that, maybe on day two and
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  Speaker 2: three and day one after I start, I'd take a
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  Speaker 2: full day of just recovery. I'm getting everything fixed. I'm
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  Speaker 2: getting you know, the massage, I'm getting the needles, I'm
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  Speaker 2: getting the whatever it is, so that I can be
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  Speaker 2: in the best possible position to get stronger and lift something.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe that's that. Maybe it's hurt and I'm put through something,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm making it worse, but I'm getting stronger.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this is important, Like I'm winning this. I'm
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  Speaker 1: winning today.
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  Speaker 2: I wish that would have taken a day to recover
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  Speaker 2: like I did my last five years. That really really
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  Speaker 2: helped me. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Was Magwood? Your guy? Like the guy that was it?
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  Speaker 1: Now we said Magwood? Is that his name?
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  Speaker 2: He was a linebacker for a school. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how it came up with that name out of nowhere,
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: but he was a linebacker for a school called Groves
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: out of Savannah, and he ended up playing I think
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: he went to Vanderbilt to play linebacker and he just
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: just made it ugly.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Here's the questions. You're lined up here like airplanes at
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: JFK let Let's get to a few of these questions here.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: So here's one for you, Winder. Your curveball became one
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: of the most famous pitches in baseball, of course Uncle Charlie.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: So where did Uncle Charlie come from? And how did
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: you develop it into what it became? Was it in
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: the back aren't throwing into the net off the mound?
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Or was it after that?
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Yep, it was in the backyard, throwing off the mound
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: into the net. And at Mallory Park where my little
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: league park that's still in existence. It's still my happy
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: place in this world. I think the Mallory Park is
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: just just a special place. But you know, my brother
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: showed me that grip. And you can tell somebody or
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: show somebody how to throw something, but at the end
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: of the day, it's going to come out how it's
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: naturally coming out of their arm. Right Like, there's guys
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: that hold the curveball the same as I do, that
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: have a little, short, tight, eighty two mile an hour curveball,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: and mine was always a bigger slower. I won't say loopy,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: because that's not the right word. That makes it sound
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: like it was a very good pit for abby and
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: that's not what it was. It was always that shape,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: you know, until I got kind of old and then
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: my arm didn't work same what used to, so I
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: had to drop it down a little bit and make
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: it a little sweepier to add something to it. But
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: it was always that big, twelve to six over the
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: top curveball when I was ten years old. And I
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: have an opinion on when to start throwing curveballs too,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: And I don't know that it's right, and it's not
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: been proven by seventy five years of Harvard tests or whatever,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: but I do think that you should not wait until
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: high school to start throwing curveballs. I don't think you
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: should wait to the high school to start throwing sliders.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: It's just my personal opinion. I don't want to develop
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: arm speed at such a way and then all the
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: starting to start ripping curveballs out of nowhere without the
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: proper know how to do it. I love developing something
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: at a younger age, ten or eleven years old, learning
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: how to flip a washer into a bucket or something,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: getting that spin coming off your hand and then slowly
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: developing that at time. Now, maybe you don't throw twenty
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: or thirty curveballs a game, but learning how to do
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: it at a younger age is important. I know that
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: was a question, but I want.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: To Yeah, no, that's great. But so your brother knew
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: the exact way to do it or was this trial
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: by fire? Are you figuring it out?
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: He was a he was a picture, you know, he
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: was the picture in a picture. And he walked on
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: for one day at Georgia Tech and nomar Garcia Para.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: He had a line drive up the middle and almost
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: took his face off. And uh, then who was it?
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Jason bartek Y. Yeah, Veritech came back for his senior year,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: and so they asked him to be the kind of
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: the walk on the next year guy. And he was
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: my brother, like too smart for that. After he saw
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: no Mar almost kill him, he was like, I'm done.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: So he knew you knew how to play. He knew
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: how to play the game. And uh and he was always,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: like I said, reading books on it and getting Nolan
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Ryan's grips and Roger Clemens grips and all that stuff.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: Right, we know, you know, when when you talk about
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: some of the mental aspects of it, right, I mean
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: you're you're kind of diving into that little bit as
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: you touch on some of these things. That was a
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: major component of your game, you know, the mound presence,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: the ability to to withstand the press, sure wanting the ball.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: How did you develop that? And when did that start? Of?
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Like loving that landlight you even touched on like the scouts,
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: you know, you love that. Not every it loves that,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: not every kids prepared for that. What prepared you for that?
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: And what made you love those that limelight and that
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: shine on you?
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Man? I don't know, there's somewhere deep down inside of
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: people's souls that they either kind of love that or
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: they don't. Usually it's hard, it's hard to fake that.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: I wanted to be the kid with the penalty kick
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: in soccer. I wanted to be the guy on the
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: mound in the championship game. I wanted to be the
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: guy at the plate in the biggest spot get the hit.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I wanted to, you know, be the quarterback throwing the
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: ball or receiver catching the ball in the end zone.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I wanted that spot. I always wanted that spot. And
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: it's not that it's not that I didn't trust anybody else.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I just didn't trust them as much as me to
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: in that spot, you know. So I always wanted that,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: And I think that goes back to the backyard when
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: you're I think when you're when you're a winning type player,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: you know, you're going through these things in your mind
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: and you're practicing, like, all right, game seven, bottom of
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: the night, the biggest hitters up, you know, and like
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: you got to prove it to yourself over and over again.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: And I think we as kids, and I hope that's
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: still going on today. You always wanted you always had
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: to prove it to yourself every day that you could
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: get the best hitter out and the crowd goes well,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: you know, and always envisioned I always envisioned that crowd
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: going crazy. And I always wanted that crowd going crazy.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: And when those scouts where there was only like five
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: in the stands, I'd be like, huh, if there's a
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: traffic jam or something like, there's probably so many of
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: them trying to get where's everybody else. So, you know,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: it's just a competitive nature of a person I think
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: comes out in those spots.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I can see you running around the backyard though hands
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: after you got that final out in Game seven. Man,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I can see Waino in the backyard pumping his fist
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: celebrating the big victory to win the World Series when
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: you were nine. I mean I see that happening.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I get to live that out. That's such
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: a cool dream. You know, only one person in the
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: world gets to close the World Series out every year,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: and I got to be that person two thousand and six.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: It's just a crazy, crazy thing. But you're right, I
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: mean it was you know, I did that. I did
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: that five hundred thousand times before that appen. That was
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: like muscle memory.
• 22:30
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  Speaker 3: So when going to that moment, when you get that
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: you know you get that shot to close that out.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Are you trying to block out before you head out there?
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Are you trying to block out the outcome and just
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: focus on the task, or or are you seeing it
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: all play out before you go out there.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: No, I live one pitch at a time, and I
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: have to live that way because I get so I
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: get so amped up in those moments. I'm not nervous person,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: but I am a like, let's go person. Like roll
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: through a wall person, and I have to kind of
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: dial that back to like almost running into the wall
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: without running into the wall, and that that's kind of
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: where I was at in those moments, was like just
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: remembering and reminding myself that, which was lessons learned by
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Chris Carpenter and Jason Isringhausen that we live one pitch
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: at a time, you know, and just all you can
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: control is the pitch that you're making execute one time,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: just like Roy Halliday used to say over and over again,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: we'd go one pitch at a time until they take
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: the ball from you at the end of the game
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: or when it's over. But I never I never worried
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: about what the outcome was going to be because I
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: couldn't control it. All I can control was was was
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: the result, Like was the effectiveness of the pitch that
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I was making, you know, executing pitches is Doc would
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: always say, royality, man. I loved watching his interviews after
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: a game. It was so simple, like Roy, what'd you
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: think it? You know, on pitch seven hundred and twelve
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: of the season, you know, your fourth start, you've already
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: made four complete games, Like, tell me about it. He's
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: like I'll just executing pitches, you know. I mean there's
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: always like that, you know, And that's how Chris Carpenter was,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: I just want to execute pitches. And that's how Roger
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Clemens was. I was just going to execute a pitch,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: you know. And that's and that at the end of
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: the day, we complicate things so much. Sometimes at the
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: end of the day, if a pitcher has the mindset
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: of I'm just going to go out and execute as
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: many pitches as I can in a row, one at
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: a time, usually the outcome is in the picture's favor.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent, simple, Yeah, keep it simple, stupid, no doubt
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: about it. Here's a question that we got for you.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I'm good at that you played for Team USA and
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three the WBC. How important was that? What
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: did that mean to you on a personal level to
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: do that?
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, it was incredible. It's probably and I think I
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: think I've heard this from almost everybody who's played on
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: that Team USA team the last two times through. Yeah,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: it's probably the best baseball experience in my life. It's
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: just a different experience. When you got the country on
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: the on the front of the jersey. Uh, They're chanting
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: US A U S A. Uh. It's just uh, it
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: just doesn't get better than that. There's you're not playing
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: for money, you're playing for country. You're playing for the
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: love of the game, and you're playing to represent all
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: the kids that that came before you and behind you,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: and and all those little kids in the stands that
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: got the USA wore paint on their face and and
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: their USA hats and jerseys on and it's just like,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: that's that that hits you harder. It hits you harder
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: than and I love, I love with a deep passion
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: in Saint Louis Cardinals, but there was nothing like we're
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: in the USA on the jersey's.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: So cool closed the World Series and the w b
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: C is the greatest experience that that says a lot.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's and and that's yeah too, and oh
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: by the way, no big deal. Sorry, but uh but
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: you know, also, I think about it like this, like
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: going to an All Star game where you're surrounded by
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: the best players in baseball and you're getting the rubbed
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: shoulders and talk to him. It's an incredible experience. For
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: like a day and a half, the WBC was an
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: incredible experience exactly like that for a whole month, right,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: or three weeks or whatever it is. It's just every
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: day of guys who are are are are like minded
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: with you, who just want to win for country. They
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: don't care like all the contract stuff side the door,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: like none of that matters. It's all, how can we
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: help this team win for our country? And Mark de Rosa,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: and I know he cut some heat for you know,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: some of the different things. He is the perfect manager
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: for that situation because he is the best at rallying
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: a group of dudes in a room that I've ever met.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: He was my teammate at O nine. He is just
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: the best at that. He calls himself the pulse of
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: the team, you know, for a reason because he always was.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I mean when as he would go in the in
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: the locker room, you know, you could be as dead
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: as a door nail in there, and he'd walk in
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: the room and everybody's all of a sudden, you know,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: to win the d row voice and you're talking like
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: this and all.
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: Of a sudden, and and it's just, uh, you know,
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: he just is so good because and I'll tell you, like,
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: take strategy and everything else out because that that matters
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: to an extent, But you're talking about the best players
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: in the world.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: These guys know how to play the game right. You
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: got to put him in the right situations for them
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: to succeed. But at the end of the day, how
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: can I motivate a group of guys who don't play
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: with each other all year, who were all stars, to
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: come together and be one for a couple of weeks?
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: And how do I do it right away? Because you've
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: got to win right away. If not, you go home
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: and everybody thinks you think so Uh, it's it's really
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: it's really kind of an awesome thing to be a
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: manager for that in that situation, he did a great job.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Our first guest on the dirt from the dougot
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: was marked Russian.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good call. Good entertainment too, Hi he is, Yeah,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: he knows what he's doing.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: I want to get to the next question here way now,
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: because we have a bunch of them, and then I
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: have some some other questions for you personally too. But
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: let's let's throw up doms here. If you had one
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: bullpen session with every young picture watching will be the
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: biggest lesson you'd teach.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Uh. I think I think, uh most of the time
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: the things I'm teaching with with young pictures is like,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: how can we simplify this? And it's kind of the
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: same thing as my thought process. It's like, most of
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: the time kids are trying to do too much right there,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: their bodies are flowing all over the place, and in
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: some ways that's good, right if you can control it,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: because you want some rhythm. Pitch is supposed to be
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: kind of like dancing, you know, you're not supposed to
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: be all stiff and robody. But like I always like,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: one of my big things is how can we keep
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: our our head is still as possible through the delivery.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Russ Springer used to tell me he would you take
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: his chin towards the target. And now now with with
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: with especially with young pitchers who are and it's not
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: a it's not a necessarily a new thing. Young pictures
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: are always trying to develop velocity, always have, going back
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: since Taykob days, going back since cy Young days. They
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: pictures have always when they're little and they don't they're
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: not strong enough yet. They're they're pulling in there, pushing
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: in their heads, flying and all kinds of stuff. And
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day. You have to be
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: able to throw the ball quality wise over the plate
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: and get people out. That's what you have to do.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Uh So I'm usually with young players and new pictures.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: I'm usually trying to get them into a mold of
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: how can we control this delivery in some way? Don't
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: teach everybody the same because not everybody's the same. How
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: can I get this body in this head to be
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: still and controlled through the delivery as possible? And it
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: starts with your feet all the way up, like the
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: little things at the bottom. All that dictates what goes
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: on at the top. So it's usually those little those
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: little movements that help a pitcher succeed sixty feet away.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Very good. That's an easy one to remember too, Mark
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: shuter Guard, the question for you is there one hitter
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: that you were excited about looking forward to the challenge
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: because it felt like this battle was going to be
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: a chess match. But poo Hools is the perfect example,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: and he was your guy. So is there somebody you
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: faced where you thought I gotta I gotta outthink this
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: guy like Gwin somebody along that line.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a few guys come to mind, I mean, right away,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: the first guy that I thought it was Chipper, just
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: because I grew up with Myron Chipper so much. You know,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: we're my pants up in high school, in Little League
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: and all that. Because from nineteen ninety five on, Chipper
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: used to wear his pants up and then he poured
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: his pants down, and I'm like, no, I don't know
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: what to do. I thought you Chipper was the first
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: guy that came to mind, just because I mean, he's
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: one of the greatest hitters of all time, switch hitter,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: but from the left side, really dangerous, just really really dangerous.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: It could could hit a ball out to left center
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: on a fastball, and could pull a breaking ball right center.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: You know that that kind of approach is always really tough. Yeah,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: the Bryce Harper, Joey Vado, Freddie Freeman as somebody always
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: like they asked me, if anybody hits four hundred again,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: who's it going to be? I say, Freddie Freeman every time.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: He's just He's Freddie was probably the toughest toughest out,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: maybe still is the toughest out ever because it's it's
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: he used to have a whole end, but then he
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: got rid of that and then he didn't have really
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: any holes. So you had to just be you had
• 32:35
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• 32:41
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• 32:43
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  Speaker 2: get out of here? I went. I went on a
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: mission trip to to the Dominican Republic. I went to
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• 32:55
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  Speaker 1: You've done enough damage enough.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we know you brought up the missions trip.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 3: I know that your faith is really important to you
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  Speaker 3: and that's been a big part of your journey to it.
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  Speaker 3: Can you share what that's meant to you in your
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  Speaker 3: career and how you've grown in your faith and what
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  Speaker 3: that means to you in your life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: And I take it real seriously that I was given
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: incredible platform, incredible stage to stand on for a long time,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: chance to be a role model. I took that very seriously,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: but also a chance to live out my faith authentically.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: It's where people believed it, you know. That always mattered
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: to me to be able to compete in such a
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: way that my teammates go, yeah, this dude, he wants it,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: he's getting after it. But also like competing in such
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: a way that the guys who played against me would
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: look at me and go, dang, it's gonna be tough, man,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: But like full respect because I never wanted to intentionally
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: a few different reasons. I never wanted to intentionally like
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: call somebody out or or yell at somebody, not that
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: I wasn't thinking in my head sometimes, but but also
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: like I wanted them. I didn't want to, Like, I know,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: if I was hitter and a picture yelled at me,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh, is that right? Okay? Like I
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: wanted to keep him on the other side of that fence.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: I wanted to keep him like, oh, I like this dude. Man,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: he's competing, he's grinding, but you know he's doing respect.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: I like that, you know, which I always try to
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: do anyways. But I also didn't want to, like they
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: don't need any more motivation. I don't need billboard material
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: to fire somebody up. I'm perfectly good letting a sleeping
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: dog lie. But as far as the faith goes, there's
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: a way to live your life. I think that people go,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I want what that guy has. I believe, based off
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: the way he's living and talking and loving and hugging
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: and you know, picking people up and encouraging, I think
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: there's a way for us to live a life like that.
• 34:50
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• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great, that's a good answer. I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: You've sort of alluded to. I think you said Mallory Park.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Was that the little league field?
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: You know, and you really you could tell that there
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: was something there, some emotion that that ballpark, that field,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: you know, brought to you. Maybe sometimes kids can't appreciate
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: it until they get to be much older. On the
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: impact of a field, of a little league field, of
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: a high school field. I sense that there was something there.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Can you share what it is about that place that
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: resonates with you?
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Well, I remember, we just I mean, our little League
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: opening day has to be the coolest little League opening
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: day in the history of the world. Too. We start
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: down in the village where we live, down by the ocean,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: and all the teams gather around. They all make special banners.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: You walk down. When I was a kid, you walk
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: down the street and everybody lines the streets, which they
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: still do in chairs and cheering for everybody. I mean,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: the whole town comes out. We live in a not
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: a giant town, but it's there's thousands of people out
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: there watching little league players walk down the street, League
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: softball and baseball players walk down the street. I feel
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: like a rock star. And then you get to the
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: field and there'd be baseball card trading tables where you'd
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: bring your cards and then somebody the trader would be
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: sitting there and go, all right, I'll give you a
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Conseco rookie for a second year Kevin Mitchell card And
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh yeah, so I remember that stuff like
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: real vividly. It's also it was always like snow cones
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: when you got done with the game, and it was
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: just ways for you to love the game deeper. And
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: this year I took off. We plugged this and so
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I don't run a better. This year I took off
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: all spring from calling games and music so that I
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: could be there for my little My little guy's seven,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: he's playing eight U baseball. They got second in the state,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: by the way, God so close. And then my ten
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: year old Sadie, she's playing she's playing all star level softball.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Really great. So I was coaching both their teams. And
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: I was at Mallory Park four or five nights a week,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: every night, every week, and it was just best. And
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: on my next album, I got a song called Mallory
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Park about it.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: It's just so you wow.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: So And I'm in the process where we're kind of
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: updating Mallory Park. We're reconfiguring some of the fields and
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: fixing the drainage and making it just special for for
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: the next generation too. But I think little league parks
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: have a way of doing that. You know, you yeah,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: you look back, there's there's uh, there's still kids falling
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: in love with the game. There's still kids that will
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: there's grown ups that I think all of us probably
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: look back at our little league parks. What mine was
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Mallory Park. I don't know what y'alls were, but you
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: look back and you remember those sweaty nights playing spring
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: baseball and running to get a snow cone or an
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: icy or something afterwards, and you know, fall in love
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: with the girl in the stands on the side.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: You know, there's an innocence about it. I mean, let's
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: be honest, that's what it is. And look, and we
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: talk about the litt League World Series and playing for
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: the name on the front of the uniform and not
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: the back. I mean that's a US A thing for
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: the WBC. But yeah, there's no question there. You know
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Kenny Chesney sings about you know the lights on the field.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I mean it it resonates with so many people.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: Wait, when do we get to we get to hear
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: a little uh run on that that Mallory Park song
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: on this or no?
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: Are you gonna wait to wait on us on that one?
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Oh? You gotta wait. I was just playing it for
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: my wife a few minutes ago. That man, I was
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: just in muscle shows recording two days ago. So we're
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: we're working on an album too. We'll be released in spring.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: I'm really excited about it. I can't wait.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: That's awesome, man, So Revy, let's let's get to the
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: last question here.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: I want to go to the last question here.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: So, uh, this is a good one.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a great one.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: So uh, Adam, if BETHENI approached you the day before
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: I started and ask your thoughts about him calling up
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: you and Catcher from Memphis and getting.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: YadA the day off, the next thing, I would have gone.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Man. You know, I don't know how many starts, I
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: have four hundred something. I don't know how many starts
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: I have, but Yady and I of three twenty eight,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: so I have like one hundred starts, maybe that or
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: somebody else. I don't know how many starts I have
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: somebody else, but it's a couple of seasons worth, and
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: we'd have that record by a mile if a couple
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: of us had. He got injured a couple of times.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: I got injured a couple of times. But I think
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: had that happened the last couple of years, the fans
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: would have revolted because that became That became a big
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: deal in Saint Louis, and it became a big deal
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: to me and Yachtie, and there was no way in
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: the world we were missing a start. The last two
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: seasons that he and I played together, we made every
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: start together, every single one, and there was a couple
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: of times where it was like, man, we got to
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: but it ain't feeling real good right now, you know.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: So I just so blast. I always tell people they
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: asked me, like, what are you most proud of? I say,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: I'm most proud of us win in a few World
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Series titles and get to play for the Saint Louis
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Cardinals for my entire big league career. And the other
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: thing I always mention is that I got to play
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: catch with the best defensive catcher of all time. Nobody
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: could tuck me out of that.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk a little bit about teammates and relationships,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: because that does start at a very young age. I
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: probably impacted you with a little league level. You had
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: some historically great Hall of Fame type teammates. But as
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: you're watching your children go through this process, I'm curious
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: do you do you say, because you've already mentioned like
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: being a good teammate is really important, what are the characteristics,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: the qualities, What would you like to see your children
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: and other children do to make themselves great teammates?
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I have three rules. When my kids get
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: out of the car, we say it before before they
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: get out every time before they start play. Hey, I
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: need everything. You got, best effort, right, that's number one.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Number two, we're going to be great teammates. That's it.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Like that, That is number two. Every time, we're gonna
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: be a great teammate. Pick them up when they're down,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: you know, pad on the back, whatever it is fire
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: them up when they need firing up. But hey, we're
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna exist in that clubhouse, in that dugout
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: to make the person next to you and the team
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: next to you better. That's the rule number two and
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: number three. Did you have the most fun you could
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: ever have today? The most fun you could ever have today?
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: And that's that's what it is. That's what it's about. Right,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: if you go out and have the most fun you
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: possibly can while being a great teammate and give me
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: everything you got. I can't ask anything else.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: We'll clip that, we'll clip that off and send that out.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: That that kind of nails it. Check check check yep, Adam,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Wayne right, just nailed it.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: One hundred percent.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Let's get to the kitchen sink here and get way
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: no to his ribs. I know that you don't want
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: to overcook those things when I know how that goes.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Do we like them rare?
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: How do we cook them? We don't over them? Fall off?
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: No? No, no, These are these are smokes so that
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: so that when you bite into them a proper rib,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: it won't fall off the bone. Now I like a
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: fall off the bone rib too. Well, when are you
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: cooking a competition style rib. You bite it, you got
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: a bite mark on the rib. Uh, and it's it's
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: tender without being too tender. And it's just like and
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I got the seasoning down. I've got some great teachers
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: that have taught me a lot. But you want that
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: bone to be about two oh six. You want that
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: the rib to be about uh two o six?
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: So guy, or it is just it's just my feeld thermometer. Guy.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but like I got it down to a science
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: on these ribs. Yeah, I know what's two o six.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: I know what's I feel. But you know, if I'm
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: using somebody else's smoker, or if I'm cooking on a
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: bigger thing than then you got to use the thermometer,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: you know, just to make sure I can eyeball it
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: to an extent where I'm going Out's within one or
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: two for sure.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: But that's hilarious. Are you the guy standing next to
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: the grill looking at somebody saying I might want to
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: take those off. I don't want to say anything but
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: that see you might wanna.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I backseat drive a little bit when I'm watching something.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: You're beautiful. All right, Let's get to the kitchen sink.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: We digressed. That felt like the kitchen sink. But Adam,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: these are questions that may not necessarily have to do
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: with baseball country music star. If not country, what's your
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: next favorite genre of music?
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Nineties alternative rock?
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Oh nice, man, give us a band there.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: What would be a good.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: I gotta I don't know if you can. Let me
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: see if I can turn this thing down a little
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: bit right there? Uh a little uhmaka yep ukulele there. Yeah.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Eddie Vedder. Eddie Vedder sent that to me. Oh wow, Okay,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: when I retired, I'm I'm one of the biggest pro
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Jam fans ever and there's a really great pro Jam fan.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: But I think we're in the kitchen sink. These are
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: quick answers, right, yeah, there's.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Pretty quick, but I just just quick aside. So, how
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: did your deal with taking something from a diehard Cub
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: fan baseball fan? First way, know who you go? Or
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: you were able to just suck it up. Vetter's a
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Cubs fan, but geez, that's Vetti. Vetter.
• 45:13
  Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, and he was like, hey, man, I really
• 45:16
  Speaker 9: wish you to play for the Cubs.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Good man, All right, let's go to the second one,
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: what is the most valuable thing a pitching coach has
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: ever told you on the mound.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: On the mound, and.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: You could say nothing, You could say I can never
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: really go That could be a I'll tell you one
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: thing that that sticks out to me right away.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: And I don't know, I don't know exactly why. But
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: my first pitching coach in the big leagues was a
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: guy named Dave Duncan, who's a legendary pitching coach. And
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: and Dave was a was a catcher, so he wasn't
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: real savvy with mechanics and stuff. He had a Marty
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Mason was our bullpen coach. He was more of the
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: mechanical guy. But Dave was a master game planner. And
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Dave came out one time I was playing in San
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Francisco and he came out and said, Hey, I don't
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: know how you got to do it, but if you
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: can get a ball down the way right here, you're
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: going to get ground ball to short, So let's freaking
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: do it. And just turn around and walked away. And
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: in that moment, when I thought about the answer to
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: your question, because there's probably much better answers to that question,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: I'll have to think about it. But in that moment,
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: that was Okay, I'm a competitor. Let's go compete right here,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: get a ball down the way, get ground ball to short.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: The next bitch, I got a little cutter down the way,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: I got ground ball to short. I was like, this
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: guy's smartest person ever lived. But you know, as I
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: walk off, as I look back on it now, it
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: was me in the moment believing, Okay, if I just
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: get a ball down away, could just win this competition
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: right here, this one competition, this next pitch, I'll get
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: a ground ball to short. And I did.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Belief and trust is so important. I question number three.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: You know the Halloween costume should become legendary and the
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Wainwright household, who comes up with them? And when does
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: the planning start for all those.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Well, we all put our time in and appealing for
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: what we want to be. Ultimately, my wife has the
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: final say on that, but we every single person in
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: my family have five kids, and me and my wife
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: we always like we'll see something. We're like, hey, what
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: if we're the Flintstones this year? And there's other six
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: will go no, no, or or what about Star Wars?
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: And then three people go ooh, and then four people
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: will go no no, So like there's a there's a
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: weeding out process, and if you can get a majority,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: usually that's pretty good indication where we're at it. And
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: then sometimes there's seven different opinions and my wife goes, okay,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: I ordered all the costumes.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Is what we're perfect?
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Perfect?
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: All right, last one here, buddy, and then we'll get
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: to your MVP.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: So if you stood in the box against Mace Miller
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: right now, would you make contact g a homer or laugh?
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Laugh for sure that the first pitch, I'd be laughing
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: for sure. I will tell you that if I don't know,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: I mean his fastball one oh four is slider at
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: ninety whatever it is, that's the grossest slider ever. I
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: gotta I know one thing. I don't want to hit
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: the slider and I and that's not that I want
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: to hit one O four, but I dankster don't want
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: to hit ninety something sliding, you know. Business. So I'm
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: selling out like crazy and I'm either going to uh
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: which let's be honest, I'm going to be about ten
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: miles an hour or too late at first pitch three.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: If he's still challenging me. I will be closer to
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: the fastball as long as it's going to be in
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: the exact spot that I want to swing and guests
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: on because that's what it's kind of what you have
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: to do, right, you have to think, all right, I'm
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: just gonna sit like middle away and just swing as
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: hard as I can and hope that he throws it
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: right where my barrel is because like, there's just not
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: enough time. He's two months.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: It's pretty impressive, all right. Last night for us, laughing
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: is always the best thing. Last one for us is
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: the MVP question. It's not about the most valuable player,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: but it's really about the most valuable person in your
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: life and whether it has to do with baseball or not.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're a thoughtful guy, So who's been the
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: most valuable person in your life?
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I mean during different walks of life, that
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: answer changes, right. Obviously, my mom, my mom, early on
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: in my life, you know, raised me, no dad at home,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: two jobs, making sure she would have been the first answer.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: My brother teaching me pretty much everything how to be
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: a man, it's the second answer. And since two thousand, no,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety nine, when I started dating my girlfriend
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Jenny Curry, and now she's Jenny Wayne Wright twenty eight
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: years later. Twenty seven years later. She's been the most
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: important life in the person in my life since then,
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: so this whole th doesn't go without her. So different
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: different answers for different stages of life, but you know,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: only got number one right now is is Jenny Wainwright.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Man doesn't go anywhere past her.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: And Jenny's getting hungry, so let's get those ribs on
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: the grill. Adam, thank you so much for being with us,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: so I really appreciate it. Man, you were a star. Outstanding.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you all very much for having me. A
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: great show.