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ITB on WBCB: Adam Caplan, Andrew DiCecco Go Inside State Of Eagles Roster (Part 2) · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Pro Football Report, presented by bc WSA,
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  Speaker 1: a weekly recap of your Eagles and news around the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: from Inside the Birds, Adam Kaplan and Andrew did check O.
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  Speaker 2: All right, everyone, and welcome back to the Pro Football Report,
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  Speaker 2: It's Adam, Adam Kaplan and Andrew Czecko from Inside the
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  Speaker 3: And Andrew, we're talking.
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  Speaker 2: About near the challenges of this offensive coordinator job.
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  Speaker 3: We outlined.
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  Speaker 2: Just about everything hurts healthy offensive line. AJ Brown, free agents.
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  Speaker 2: Can you run your scheme? We've also talked about Jeff
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  Speaker 2: and I have talk about our own show. Stout's got
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  Speaker 2: to be the guest. Jeff Stantley, a line coach and
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  Speaker 2: run game Coordinator's got to be in concert with the
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  Speaker 2: new OC.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, because you got to be able.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever runs can we want to run, you've got to
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  Speaker 2: get Stout on board with it.
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  Speaker 3: So that's a challenge.
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  Speaker 2: Show that there's a lot of there's a lot going
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  Speaker 2: on here, Andrew, And again it plays into free agency.
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  Speaker 3: Who's going to be a good fit with a new coordinator?
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  Speaker 3: Who does he want back? Well? For instance, Okay, we
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  Speaker 3: talked about quarterback A J. Jillen. Forget it.
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  Speaker 2: They already have enough running backs. Let's get to let's
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  Speaker 2: get to we talked about AJ Brown. But let's get
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  Speaker 2: to ted end where they're they're barren. You've got A J.
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  Speaker 2: Jenkins who just resigned, and they also have Jahan Bell
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  Speaker 2: and Jahem Bell who's an extreme long shot. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 2: and Kim lat To our guy who's story who showed
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  Speaker 2: he can block.
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  Speaker 3: I wish they'd use him correctly though.
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  Speaker 4: Well, hopefully they maybe revert him back to tight end.
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  Speaker 4: I'm curious to see what they do because they did
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  Speaker 4: sign Carson Steel and we'll see about Van sumerin.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it would be interesting now Steele could play
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  Speaker 2: full back, he could play running back.
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  Speaker 3: Will the new OC want to use a full back.
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  Speaker 2: You never know, because the Eagles did remember here when
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  Speaker 2: Carrie Blasting game was year.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, you know Harry Blasting game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, who was blocked for Darrik Henry with the Titans
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  Speaker 2: and he came here.
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  Speaker 4: He was teammates with Oaren Burks at Vanderbilt.
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  Speaker 3: There you go, good call by you so big.
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  Speaker 2: The big one is Dallas Godder had a career year
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  Speaker 2: in terms of touchdowns. Just incredible. They finally used him
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  Speaker 2: in the red zone area. This is funny, all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden they do that. I understand he's thirty one
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  Speaker 2: next week. I get that. But the fact of matter
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  Speaker 2: is he had a great year, relatively injury free. I
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  Speaker 2: think he missed one game doing.
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  Speaker 4: Need yeah, the Chiefs game, yea, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But overall had a good season as a blocker. It
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  Speaker 2: wasn't quite as good as you usually find from him,
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  Speaker 2: but he's always been a good, very good blocker.
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  Speaker 3: As matter of fact. What are your thoughts about bringing
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  Speaker 3: them back?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think because he's thirty one years old, Adam,
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  Speaker 4: and then this is just the way that I'm viewing it.
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  Speaker 4: It would seem like it would play into the Eagles
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  Speaker 4: favor if they want to get him back because I'm
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  Speaker 4: not sure what he would command on the open market,
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  Speaker 4: knowing he does have the injury history, knowing that he
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  Speaker 4: is thirty one years old. Yes, he broke an Eagles
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  Speaker 4: record for most receiving in most touchdowns by a tight end.
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  Speaker 4: Pete Retz laugh, he beat his record. But I think
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  Speaker 4: you also have to take into account his rapport with
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  Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts. That's something that I've talked about for the
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  Speaker 4: past couple of years. Now it's evident in training camp
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  Speaker 4: because he catches more passes from Hurts than any other
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  Speaker 4: player during the summer.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, it's what interests saying it's so funny
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  Speaker 2: because we've been tricked so badly no time working together.
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  Speaker 2: Because what we've used the example of many times of
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  Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift catching like fifty balls in a practice.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Will Shipley on the Wills Shipley.
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  Speaker 2: And Will route, Yeah, seeing his quickness in and out
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  Speaker 2: of in and out, but they would never get him
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  Speaker 2: the ball. And then now now this past summer, we
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  Speaker 2: both saw it, God heard and even more than twenty
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  Speaker 2: fourth training camp, Yeah and Hurts hooked up big time.
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  Speaker 2: We're like, all right, we'll just see what happens. We're
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  Speaker 2: culturally optimistic, just that our eyes were right. But it's funny.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't so much in the pass game, passing game
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  Speaker 2: from the twenty to the twenty. It's inside the twenty
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  Speaker 2: to the point where why didn't they use him in
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  Speaker 2: years passing the red zone like that?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I would say this for all of the vitrol
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  Speaker 4: that Kevin Patulo took this season, some of it warranted,
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  Speaker 4: some that I thought was extreme. He was the only
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  Speaker 4: offensive coordinator that Dallas Goddar had had in his time
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  Speaker 4: here that utilized.
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  Speaker 2: Him in the red zone regularly. Funny how things work out. Also,
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  Speaker 2: Grant Calcaterra free agent, I don't see it. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he's what what bothered me is too more often they
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  Speaker 2: would use him over Camlot too. And we know Calcaterra,
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  Speaker 2: I know he's gotten a little bit better at it.
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  Speaker 2: He's just Lats is a better blocker. Yeah, I didn't
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  Speaker 2: understand the role that they used him, man Kylin. Grantson
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  Speaker 2: was relegated basically to special teams. He wasn't that movable
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  Speaker 2: tight end, that that f tight end that I think
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  Speaker 2: they thought they were getting. For whatever reason, don't know,
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  Speaker 2: they just didn't use him as that guy I was
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  Speaker 2: hoping they will.
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  Speaker 3: But he's a demon on special teams. He's so fair.
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  Speaker 4: He was actually among the NFL leaders in special teams tackles.
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  Speaker 4: But that's that surely wasn't why they signed him.
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  Speaker 2: No, it was second. I mean, it was part of it,
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  Speaker 2: but it wasn't the main reason. Now the big when
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  Speaker 2: I say this, I'm actually fairly serious about this, a
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  Speaker 2: big free agent, Fred Johnson.
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  Speaker 3: He did a good job.
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  Speaker 2: He showed me because we knew he could play both right,
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  Speaker 2: starting left right and left tackle.
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  Speaker 3: He did. He's a quality backup tackle.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually group Fred Johnson and Brett Toth as
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  Speaker 4: two free agents that they provide depth there. They're probably
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  Speaker 4: going to be I would imagine that it's not going
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  Speaker 4: to be cost prohibitive to to retain them. Was certainly
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  Speaker 4: Brett Toath. But for Fred Johnson, even though he did
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  Speaker 4: start what nine games, I thought he did a solid
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  Speaker 4: job and that you can make an argument that that
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  Speaker 4: was Howie Roseman's best addition. It was over the offseason
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  Speaker 4: because he stepped in and he was pressed into service
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  Speaker 4: for for half the season. So I think you have
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  Speaker 4: to find a way to keep both of those guys
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  Speaker 4: on the you know in house.
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  Speaker 3: So Brett Toath prior to that one start was the Giants.
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  Speaker 4: Second game, Giants was his first game that he started.
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  Speaker 4: The Packers game.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, the good okay, but the oh so it was
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  Speaker 3: the Packers.
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  Speaker 4: He actually started both Giants games. The first Giants game
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  Speaker 4: was left guard, second Giants game was center, and then
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  Speaker 4: that was it. That Packers game was center.
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  Speaker 2: The second Giant game. He was phenomenal. It was one
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  Speaker 2: of these things where where the heck did this come from?
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  Speaker 2: Like Brett Toath, Greg Cosell. I remember Greg, when we
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  Speaker 2: be prior to doing that that week's show, the inside
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  Speaker 2: of the Tavy said, hey, we gotta get tape of
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  Speaker 2: Brett Toaf.
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  Speaker 3: You won't believe this.
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  Speaker 2: He was like, he couldn't believe it what he was
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  Speaker 2: watching because remember he was a tackle by trading. He's
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  Speaker 2: very tall, right, and most tall centers aren't very good
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  Speaker 2: because it's hard from the crouch. He was so athletic
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  Speaker 2: it was insane, Like we he looked like a guy
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  Speaker 2: started there for ten years. Andrew so not that you
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  Speaker 2: want to say guys a a priority.
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  Speaker 3: But I was like, dude, you got to bring this
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  Speaker 3: guy back absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: And Brett is somebody that I've talked to a lot
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  Speaker 4: this season. He puts a lot of pressure on himself
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  Speaker 4: and he recognizes that where his deficiencies lie. But I
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  Speaker 4: think when you look at a story of development entering
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  Speaker 4: year seven, Jeff Stotlin thinks the world of him. He
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  Speaker 4: went out there, he was very technically sound, the pin
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  Speaker 4: and pull blocks against the Giants, where he's getting to
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  Speaker 4: the second level, believable moving well. I just was really
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  Speaker 4: happy for him because he's he's had to overcome a
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  Speaker 4: lot in his career and and I think he answered
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  Speaker 4: a lot of the a lot of the skeptics out
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  Speaker 4: there that he can at least, at the at bare minimum,
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  Speaker 4: be a high quality backup that they can rely.
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  Speaker 3: Remember he can play guard, center and tackle. That that's like.
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  Speaker 4: Who can get That's that's invaluable and good.
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  Speaker 2: Give him credit for stick because we know how many
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  Speaker 2: staffs he would put over hurts his head over the years.
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  Speaker 3: He got it.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I would I have no idea why Staltlin stood
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  Speaker 2: by him this long.
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  Speaker 3: You got to give style credit.
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  Speaker 4: That that's like and I know for highly intelligently.
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  Speaker 2: I I know that they they I think I believe
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  Speaker 2: they might have known each other for some reason. I
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  Speaker 2: know Stout had an insight on Brette, maybe scouted him.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I know for a fact that
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  Speaker 2: there's a part of why Toad signed with the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: is because of Stout and not just an incredible stick
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  Speaker 2: tun us by this guy.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he could have been out of the league.
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  Speaker 3: I mean he's around twenty nine to thirty, right.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's twenty nine. Yeah, But everybody that I've
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  Speaker 4: talked to, Jordan Mailatta primarily has just lauded Brett Toath
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  Speaker 4: for his intelligence, calling him one of the smartest guys.
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  Speaker 4: He called him like big brain bread or something like that.
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  Speaker 4: And so I joy.
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  Speaker 3: Listened to his interviews. Yeah, Tooth's pretty good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think he did a nice job really
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  Speaker 4: starting to settle in there and and take on a
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  Speaker 4: much more prominent role.
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  Speaker 2: And then Matt Prior Matt Pryor when they signed and
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  Speaker 2: people kind of rolled their us. But he did start
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of games over the years for the Bears
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  Speaker 2: and Bengals.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he played over a thousand snaps last season at
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  Speaker 4: guard for the Bears, I believe, and it.
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  Speaker 2: Just he didn't look great. Also, offensively is our guy?
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  Speaker 2: Would now we say offensively he actual me special teams,
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: Braidon Man, who what what a what an acquisition? And
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  Speaker 2: Braida on our show sitting sitting at Chickis and Roosevelt Boulevard,
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  Speaker 2: that story about how the Jets kind of held him hostage,
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  Speaker 2: they wouldn't tell him kind of what they were going
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  Speaker 2: to do with them. And then of course he went
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  Speaker 2: to the Steelers. The Steelers had to make a decision
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  Speaker 2: or they going to cut him. They to keep him
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  Speaker 2: and give Howie Roseman credit. This is a guy that
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  Speaker 2: he wanted. Braid Man's been a great story.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, unbelievable season from Brayden. I thought he was snubbed
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  Speaker 4: from either an All Pro or a Pro Bowl list.
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  Speaker 4: That was just me my thoughts. But had a career
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  Speaker 4: high in average ars per punt, tied a career a
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  Speaker 4: career along with the seventy yard punt, had twenty punts
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  Speaker 4: inside the twenty, and he bailed out an offense that
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  Speaker 4: was static for most of the season and really helped
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  Speaker 4: control the field position battle. So I think if you're
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  Speaker 4: the Eagles, you have to find a way to bring
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  Speaker 4: him back, and he wants to be back. Because I
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  Speaker 4: spoke to him during locker clean out. So we'll see
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  Speaker 4: if they're able to make it work.
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  Speaker 2: And contract extension eligible. The one on offensive, Tyler Steen. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the question now for him is not extending his contract,
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  Speaker 2: is even going to start a right guard going forward?
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  Speaker 3: He was very up and down.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought he was okay. I didn't think he
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  Speaker 4: was a detriment. I didn't think he was stellar, but
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  Speaker 4: he's passable. I think you can get by with someone
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  Speaker 4: like that. So I don't know that I would I
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  Speaker 4: would extend him right now, but he's somebody that I
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  Speaker 4: do believe can be a starting caliber lineman if you
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  Speaker 4: surround him with a healthier supporting cast.
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  Speaker 2: I would try to resign Goddard even even if they
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  Speaker 2: get him back.
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  Speaker 3: It shouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: It's not going to preclude them from drafting the tight
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  Speaker 2: end earlier because Goddard to me, is on a one
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  Speaker 2: year deal with it at thirty one years old. With
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  Speaker 2: his injury history, you just can't. You can't commit to
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  Speaker 2: him past one season. But I absolutely would look to
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  Speaker 2: bring him back. They have nothing at the ted end
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  Speaker 2: position in terms of starting. No one's ready to start.
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  Speaker 2: Latsu should have been used way more as their why
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  Speaker 2: tend these and more as an offset fullback, which was
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  Speaker 2: a mistake. That's part of the that was as small
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  Speaker 2: as that seems as a mistake to me that hurt
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  Speaker 2: their run game. That was Stout's got to get together
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  Speaker 2: with Jason Michael and whoever and say, listen, this is
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  Speaker 2: this is like they have to do their own self, Scout,
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  Speaker 2: that's something have to be better with. It's a small
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  Speaker 2: thing that could have been a big thing, because look,
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  Speaker 2: Barkley's numbers were way down last season.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think looking back, two injuries that we probably
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  Speaker 4: didn't talk enough about were Ben Vansumer, who got hurt
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  Speaker 4: on the first play of the season on the opening kickoff,
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  Speaker 4: and Johnny Wilson got rolled up on in training camp.
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  Speaker 4: He did the dirty, grimy work blocking, freeing up teammates
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  Speaker 4: and things like that, and then they had big plans
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  Speaker 4: for Ben van Sumer and both players were out before
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  Speaker 4: the season really got underway, so that that may have helped,
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  Speaker 4: you know, initiate a better run game in hindsight.
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  Speaker 2: Now on the other side, we're going to go over
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  Speaker 2: their free agent lists on defense, which is very extensive
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  Speaker 2: kind of where we think this could be headed and
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  Speaker 2: also guys who could have their contract extended. The second
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• 15:28
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• 15:34
  Speaker 1: hosts from Inside the Birds Adam Kaplan and Andrew did
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: check O.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: All right, everyone, welcome back to the Pro Football Report
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: presented by bcw essay on fourteen ninety WBCB and one
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  Speaker 2: oh seven three FM and also seen live at w
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: bcbsports dot com. It's Adam Kaplan Andrew de Checko. I'm
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: inside the Bird, so Andrew. So we went over the
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Eagles fragent list. Offensively, let's get let's get to defense.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Jalen Phillips did a nice job. I know people who
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: get obsessed with sacks. Yes, he didn't have a big
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: sack number, pressure rate, really really good outstanding versus run.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: He's so long and he stayed healthy with the Eagle.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: He's very physical, and he sets the edge with violence
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: and authority, and I think there's no coincidence that his
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: arrival coincided with Jayalox's hunt really starting to turn the
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: corner and reap the benefits of playing alongside someone who
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: can be a headliner. I think that's really the important
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: distinction here, Adham, is that Jalen Phillips is the There's
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: no question that he is the frontline player of that group,
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: and I think everything that he said suggests that he
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: wants to be here. He seemed really happy to be
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: in Philadelphia. But now it's going to be up to
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: the decision makers to try and make that happen. But
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: I think that he should be a priority for sure.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: I would agree with you, josh Uche. I know you
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: got to know him.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like josh Uche Selfishly, I'd love for him
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: to come back because I enjoy talking to him. But
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: I think for his career it would make a lot
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: more sense for him to go to a place where
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: he's going to be more value and be more or
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: of a have more of a role as a pass rusher,
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: because that's openly what he wants to do. Get back
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: to rushing quarterbacks.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: He did a good job. We forget like he did
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: a really good job.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: I thought he did it really good job for.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: The little they let him play, and then he just
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: became special teams player and then that was it pretty
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: much it for him. So Josh Uche obviously probably would
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: be somewhere else about Conker got hurt.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: He did, he didn't really.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: I saw him a Was he wearing a brace or
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: is he no? No, no, he said he He said
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: he was back to full streight.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: For him, man, good for free, it's good for good
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: for him. Now here's a question. Beg showed he could.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: He played a little bit more than we expected.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: He looked good.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: You know, it was kind of hard for him mid
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: season to do this. He hasn't he hasn't fully retired again,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: he's not sure what he's going to do.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Would you take him back?
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: Because I think it's I think it's time to move forward.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: And also, if you're Brandon Graham, do you really want
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: to go through the grind of training camp and all
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: that over and over.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't have to make decision now, but I'm
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: just saying overall, yeah, yeah, I there's at this point
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: settle down man, stay hell had it. You're gonna be
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: an Eagles Hall of Fame, no question about it. What
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: a great all time Eagle.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: And a great story coming back and making an impact,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: a good job transitioning inside, playing some some interior interior
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: defensive line.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: In fact, it wasn't because he was actually literally lining
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: up a tackle. Wasn't just because when he did it
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: in years pastor with Jim Schwartz, it wasn't really as
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: a tackle. So he was actually lining up more inside.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Is that really interesting? Because remember he's really he's listed
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: six to two, he's more like six foot one half
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: inch or six to one. Yeah, he doesn't have the
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: long starms in the world, but he's super strong and physical.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Dizzo Julari didn't have a great train of camp. Showed
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: a little bit before he got hurt. Then they put
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: him on desidation for return late. Don't see him returning.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: It was a lot of money for one year. It
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: was just under five million.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Didn't quite get there, didn't quite get there.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: But the cupboard is really barren at Edge Rusher.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: It's a big part.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: If the price is right, you would think that you
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: want to at least bring somebody back to absorb reps
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: in training camp, someone who has some experience and and
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: maybe a little bit of upside if if you if
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: you're comparing that to maybe a Day three pick or something.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: So let the edge Russ group, Okay, after we just
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: got this done so under contract, not very much. It's
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: it's Nolan Smith who had a disappointing season, It's Jayson
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: who had a breakout season. And other than that, I
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: mean they didn't they really did not use Johaan Kimpbell
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: as an edge rusher. They use him as an added
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: in defender against the run. The tape show he really
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: was not an edgrusher. They have a lot of work.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: They need to add three guys.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: There, three easily, and Johi Campbell's going to be out
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: of the equation for that, especially if they don't bring
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: back the Kobe Dean. Yeah, because he'll be plying alongside
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Zach Bond.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: And Kobe Deane as we get the linebacker, he's the
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: one who's up. I know the fans are obsessed with Dean.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: They love him, and we get it. He's a great
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: what an unbelievable medical story.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: And and a great tremendous person.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Super Super high Football IQ, great story development, two major
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: injuries back to back the list Frank rupture, then the
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: term of tell A ten and back to back seasons
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: medical marvel. But joh Hot Campbell they traded up for
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: in the first round, He's got to be the guy.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I'm just sorry they don't play got folks. They're not
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: playing a forty three where you play three linebackers. They
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: didn't play two.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, and Nikobe deane tone setter. I viewed him
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: as the heartbeat of the defense. He's gonna provide a
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: lot of value elsewhere, I would imagine. I have a
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: hard time envisioning it would be here in Philadelphia. It's
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: a luxury to have three starting caliber off ball linebackers,
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: not a necessity. And they drafted Jahi Campbell in the
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: first round. Will ja High Campbell be able to set
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: the tone like the Kobe and attack downhill and all that.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: We're gonna find out, but I don't. I don't think
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: that they have a player quite like Nikobe on the roster.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: All right, at cornerback. Let's go to the secondary.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Dorty Jackson did a yeoman's job, got off to the
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: rough start against Dallas. Eventually the teams weren't thrown to
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: him Adam for two months. Then he kind of held
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: up and then it got a little dicey late.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Nice story.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: If he wants to come as a backup for like
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: he got just over a million the season, I give
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: him million million and a half be a backup. But
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: I'm drafting. I'm drafting another starter, or I'm moving Cooper
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: to Gina corner. I know fans don't want to do that.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying what the options could be.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, selfishly kind of along the lines of Josh Uche,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: I would bring a Dori Jackson back if for no
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: other reason to be maybe that Isaiah Rodgers third corner
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: roll third outside corner provides some veteran depth and maybe
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: mentor younger players. Should they draft one in April.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: And then with Red blanket Ship when we go to safety,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: it's him and Marcus EPs are up Blanketship. He's the
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: leader of the secondary in terms of setting everything up.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Not a great athlete, it does show up at times. Andrew,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: what are your thoughts in him?
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's just a little bit too limited
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: from a coverage standpoint. A great story vic Vangio loves him.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: He's sort of that traffic cop back there. Ensures everybody's
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: being assignment sound. But I think you need to improve
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: a little bit more athletically there and pair somebody like
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: that with Drew mccoop.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: So m Drew mcoop will be one of the starters.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: And then the question is Apps's contract is up. He's
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: a backup. He did a good job, he had a start,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: but he more of a backup. Sydney Brown is not
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: a starter. Well, he is is a special teams player.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: That one was a miss. Now this is another thing
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: to watch out with Cooper Degene If fic Fangio decides,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: you know his future is not at Nickel. Safety is
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: in the is in the books there, and that will
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: actually play in because this is a conversation how he's
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: got to be having with vict end the season. Okay,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: where are we lining them up? Because this this impacts
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: our roster. I got to know whether I'm going to
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: approach reblanket ship with with a contract or if I'm not,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: what is our plan?
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Right? You have to have a plan because we talked
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: about Edge Rusher. Well, they don't have a lot there
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: as safety either, nope.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Now contract extension eligible. These are bit It's a lot
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: of them. On defense. Moro Jomo, He's now played three seasons,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: really good season, solid football player, completely different Milton. Milton's
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: is more of a power player, which almost a speed
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: up upfield, great first step win rate, very very good,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: good football player. He's eligible. Jalen Carter. That one's going
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: to be big.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: The thing is with Drew Rosenhaus, his agent, and Howie,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: they've done a ton of deals together.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Eagles. No, his medical history.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: He's kept the off the field stuff in check, but
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: he's got a medical history now.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Jalen Carter, That one will be interesting.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Jordan Davis major breakout season, Beagles smartly how he did.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I didn't agree with it at the time, but I
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: get why they did it. It was actually smart because
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: this is why they did it. If he had a
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: breakout season, which he did and they can't get extension done,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: they got him for twenty seven and they don't have
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: to worry about it.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well this I think that Jomo should be a priority.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: To answer your question, oh you would get O Jobo?
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Now, who would? Okay?
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: When you look at Carter, Ojomo and Davis how would
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: you because.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: You don't have to do Yeah, you don't. I guess
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: I would do Carter first. But you also have questions
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: about the shoulders right right, right, right, something he's probably
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: gonna have to revisit in the off season. He admitted
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: as much when he was returning from the shoulders injury.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: It's true, Davis, this will be his fifth year. This
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: is coming up his fifth year, option year. Carter this
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: will be his fourth year. Boy, I cannot believe Jordan
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Davis will be in his fifth year. So Jeff and
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I in twenty twenty two we were at the Maxwell
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Club Awards in Atlantic City. I mean, I'm not saying
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: you wait for I would know. But he looked about
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: three seventy five, three eighty when we saw him. When
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I saw him this year's training campbell Like, where did
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: his stomach go? It was crazy. He could have found
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: his jersey. He lost so much weight.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: He lost a lot of weight. He put that help
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: seriously and you could see the motor that he had. Now,
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: there is one player who I wouldn't extend that's on
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: your list there, and that would be Nolan Smith.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't do. You can't.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: It's about cast justification. There's nothing to justify extending this contract.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Why would you do it? He hasn't done enough to
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: warrant that, where clearly Davis has, Ojomo has, and Carter has.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Now the next question is, let's say Vic FANGI over
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: the next couple of years, Joe Casper got promoted to
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: DB'ST coach, which is what we expected. A are they
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: gonna still run vic scheme in two or three years,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Because if you're going to extend Ojomo and Carter and
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Davis over the next two years are probably almost certain
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: to both get all three get extended, whether yes to
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: this year, one, next year, or vice versa, Are you
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: gonna run that scheme in the future, because that that
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter because in Green Bay they have to make
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: a decision what scheme they're gonna run. Well, that impacts
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Lucas van Ness. Van Ness was drafted for the thirty four.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: They ran it one year, and then Joe Barry is fired,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: and then Jeff Haffley runs at forty three. He doesn't
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: have a home there. He doesn't fit their scheme right,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: and we have that's important. You bring up a really
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: good point.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: We have no way of knowing but all we can
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: go off of is that they had an infatuation with
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: the Fangio style before they got the real deal.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and Howie and Nick were aligned with that.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: They both liked it and that was a heck of
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: a get and their relationship with Vic Andrew absolutely played
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: a part into it. So to me, I would look
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: hard at Jalen Phillips if his agency is willing to
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: be reasonable.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Now, if he wants multiple years, Let's say he wants.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: Like three years, well, well let's say.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: He wants three years, but two years fully guaranteed it,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: let's say twenty million year.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say, thank.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: You, seea yeah, thanks all the memories.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the second year I'm worried about. It's the
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: second year with it. He's had Achilles and acl That
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: does worry me. But I'm absolutely looking at him. And again,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Nakobe Dean, if Campbell wasn't here, that's not even a question.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: You're gonna do everything you can. Now.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Nakobe Dean change agencies this past summer. I believe he
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: went with Mike McCartney, former Eagles Pro personnel director. That's right, right,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: He's got Kirk Cousins. Of note and several veteran players,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: but that and Howie and Mike have known each other forever,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: so that will be an interesting negotiation.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: But it's hard for him. I just very hard for folks.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: You can't pay everybody and you got to justify that
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: jahat Campbell Pick. So that'll be very very interesting. By
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: the way, next week we will be a chicky het
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: at Parks Casino and Ben Salem PA. This has been
• 27:04
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• 27:07
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• 27:11
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• 27:17
  Speaker 2: and we'll see you next week.