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89 | Frodo, Fredo, & Freddie · Sermons on the Side

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  SPEAKER_04: Welcome to Sermons on the Side.
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  SPEAKER_04: I'm Brad.
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  SPEAKER_04: And I'm Richard.
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  SPEAKER_04: And life can move pretty fast.
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  SPEAKER_04: So we're here to slow down, dig deep, and find the story hidden in everyday moments.
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  SPEAKER_01: With years spent in ministry, friendship, and navigating real life together, we're all about blending humor, honesty, and faith into conversations that meet you right where you are.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sermons on the side, finding meaning in the everyday.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he betrayed the family.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then, of course, Al Patino found out.
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  SPEAKER_01: Ugh.
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  SPEAKER_01: Gave him a kiss and said, I know it was you, Fredo.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
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  SPEAKER_01: You broke my heart.
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  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, I'm sorry.
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  SPEAKER_01: Why did we need the Godfather in the Lord of the Rings?
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_01: I just had to.
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  SPEAKER_04: You start talking about people betraying family members, and Freddie Freeman came into my mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, Freddie did we do Frodo?
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  SPEAKER_00: Fredo.
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  SPEAKER_04: Fredo, and we got Freddy.
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  SPEAKER_04: Freddie.
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  SPEAKER_04: Okay, all right.
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  SPEAKER_04: I'm sorry.
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  SPEAKER_04: Here we go.
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  SPEAKER_04: All right.
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  SPEAKER_04: Broto Baggins.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, here we are again.
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  SPEAKER_01: Whew, come on.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's right, it's Rico and Big Red with another episode of Sermons on the Side.
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  SPEAKER_01: Brad, you ready, buddy?
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm ready, dude.
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  SPEAKER_01: Happy to be here.
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  SPEAKER_04: Thank you to all of our listeners who are there, wherever there may be.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_04: Whether that's here in the deep south that's getting some cooler weather for the first time.
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  SPEAKER_04: Thank you, Laura.
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  SPEAKER_04: Whether it's on the other side of the planet that might be warming up for the first time in a couple of months.
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  SPEAKER_04: Or, you know, whether or not this is in six months and it's actually hot here in the deep south.
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  SPEAKER_04: Because people can listen, you know.
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  SPEAKER_04: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_04: There's no rules here.
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  SPEAKER_04: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_04: Anyways, good to see every good to see everybody.
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  SPEAKER_01: We do in our mind's eye.
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  SPEAKER_04: We imagine.
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  SPEAKER_04: We imagine our listeners.
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  SPEAKER_04: It's good to see you there.
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  SPEAKER_04: That's it.
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  SPEAKER_04: Closing my eyes and imagining right now.
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  SPEAKER_01: But anyway, man, this is episode 89.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're pumped.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh, hey, listen, we just got a follow-up from last week in that we closed out, or at some point during that episode, we were talking about uh your Atlanta Braves, those of us down in our neck of the woods, you know, we were uh we had high hopes.
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  SPEAKER_01: All of them dashed against the rocks of reality.
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  SPEAKER_04: I pulled a Rico.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_04: I pulled a Rico.
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  SPEAKER_04: The one game that I went to all season was game four of the NLDS.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_04: And the Rico magic was still with me.
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  SPEAKER_01: You were just too close to me.
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  SPEAKER_04: So wait a second.
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  SPEAKER_04: So wait a second.
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  SPEAKER_04: You went to two games.
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  SPEAKER_04: That's correct.
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  SPEAKER_04: I went to one.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: Braves are 0-3.
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  SPEAKER_04: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_04: We're not going to a game next week.
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  SPEAKER_01: Service on the side.
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  SPEAKER_01: 0-3.
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  SPEAKER_04: Don't wait over cutting this because that's going to keep us from ever having a sponsor.
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  SPEAKER_01: Man, we want it.
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  SPEAKER_01: We want the Service on the Side logo on the big screen at True Spark.
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  SPEAKER_03: Honestly.
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  SPEAKER_01: One day.
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  SPEAKER_04: One day.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, dude.
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  SPEAKER_04: Braves crashed out, man.
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  SPEAKER_04: Big offseason ahead, though.
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  SPEAKER_04: There are better days ahead.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I listen, I love the hope.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love the uh glass half full.
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  SPEAKER_01: I know you're trying.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh and and it is all a good thing.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, funny thing happened to me on the way to Charlotte, North Carolina, last week.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, we recorded the episode, and then I got on a plane on Tuesday to go to Charlotte.
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  SPEAKER_04: But we were talking about this because you flew out of Columbus.
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  SPEAKER_00: I did.
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  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_04: Is that where the funny story?
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  SPEAKER_00: No.
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  SPEAKER_04: Okay, good, good.
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  SPEAKER_04: Because shout out Columbus Airport.
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  SPEAKER_04: I love you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh man, being able to, oh, it's it's game changer.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So anyway, I get off.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just had one of those awkward moments.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm just gonna ask you, is this happened?
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  SPEAKER_01: Not airport, or it doesn't matter location.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Happen to be in the airport for me in Atlanta.
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  SPEAKER_01: I get off my my flight.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm heading to my connecting flight that's gonna take me all the way to Charlotte.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm walking out, and uh I actually happen to see our friend, friend of the podcast, Scotty Scott.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_01: Scotty Scott in the airport, and he was about to go fly to Japan, which he does all the time for work.
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  SPEAKER_01: He's a big he's kind of a big deal.
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  SPEAKER_04: Those are two different flights, Coach.
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  SPEAKER_04: It landed a Charlotte and It landed a Japan.
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  SPEAKER_01: I felt like I was sorry, I'm gonna go with the peons on these little domestic flights.
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  SPEAKER_01: Enjoy your flight to Japan.
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  SPEAKER_03: But anyway, he is still in the air as of right this second.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it was great to see him.
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  SPEAKER_01: But as I finish up talking with him, I began my walk down the concourse, and a gentleman comes up right beside me and goes, Richard, how you doing?
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  SPEAKER_01: All right, now here's my question for you.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_01: That moment when you go, I'm supposed to know who this person is.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_01: Who are you?
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_01: I can't place his name.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_01: I can't even see, and so I What if he listens to the podcast?
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_01: Then he's gonna, I'm gonna apologize.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_01: No, I apologize because you he was so gracious.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you I think, I think he saw it in my or he's like, this guy has such a brutal moment.
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  SPEAKER_01: So he very quickly explained where we knew each other, but that's that's my question.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was just a few seconds, but I was just like, Oh, yeah, if he doesn't, if he doesn't give me a clue.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, you pull out oh dude, I am a master of those moments.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_01: I need to hear this, okay?
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_04: So what do we think it's mainly because my spiritual gift is forgetting people's names, but I'll I'll pull out the dude.
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  SPEAKER_04: How are you, man?
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  SPEAKER_04: God just goes so good to see you.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_04: It's been a month of Sundays.
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  SPEAKER_02: When's the last time that we saw each other?
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  SPEAKER_02: You're asking, I'm asking him.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_02: Oh man, it was at that, it was at that wedding, you know, it was at Evan's bang, and then I'm all of a sudden thinking, okay, there you go.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_02: That's Gene.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_02: How how is um how how is um you know the let them fill in the blank, coach?
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  SPEAKER_02: And my wife, she was six, she oh, you know, uh, oh, Lisa's doing great, man.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_04: You know, she thanks for asking, you know, just the whole nine yards, man.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_01: So good.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's so wise because in my world, and this it's this way for you too.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_01: I I just know people in a lot of different worlds, right?
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_01: Within the Rico universe, right?
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_01: What am I doing?
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'm creating this multiverse, right?
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_01: So I've got the I move in different worlds.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_01: Don't let Marvel hear this.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_03: This will turn out to be a seven series movie.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_01: There's the chaplain world, you know, there's the sermons on the side.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_01: Sermons on the side world, recovery ministers, you know, church, blah, blah, blah.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_01: And it turns out that this gentleman attends a church uh in Columbus that I I fill in pre filled in uh preaching for them for a few months, actually.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is that gentsin?
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_01: When they were yes, yeah, gentian Baptist Church.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_04: Genshian, as Apple Maps refers to it.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_01: But anyway, there was that moment, and he, like I said, I think he saw it in my eyes.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, and he said, you know, I just loved it when you used to come and preach at gensin.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_05: That's it.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, bro, loved it too.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_01: Started how is everybody?
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_01: How's the wife?
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_01: You know, and that's so amazing.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, I wasn't I wasn't gonna share this.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, go it's so appropriate.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_04: All right.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_04: You gotta imagine this.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_04: Braves just lost, right?
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_04: And we are we are um walking back to the car.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, me and my best friend Chad.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_04: Now, I had uh work in Atlanta, so I was like, spend the night with him that night, I had something to do the very next morning, bright and early.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_04: So we're just going just not 15 minutes away to his house, but we're you know, sardines are exiting Truist Park.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_04: You're shoulder to shoulder.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_04: It's crazy.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, da-da-da.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_04: So we we were going two different directions than our dads who had come up from uh Columbus to, you know, watch the game with us.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_04: So I said bye to Pops, he said bye to Chuck, and we were walking.
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  SPEAKER_04: Anyways, I'm shoulder to shoulder with Chad on my right, but I'm also shoulder to shoulder with who knows who on my left.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_04: And you're kind of head down to make sure that you're not like stepping on the person in front of you, at least I am.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_04: Well, all of a sudden we we spelled something that was unpleasant and probably coming from about 30 people in front of us, you know.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, and I'm making a joke to Chad as one male does to another.
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  SPEAKER_04: But I say it loud enough for the guy next to me on the left to kind of hear it, and he said something, another very funny joke to his friends on his left.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_04: But I heard it, and then I sort of like universally make a make another joke just to see if he heard it, you know.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_04: He did, and he kind of chuckled, and then he says, like another joke.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_04: We're going back and forth.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_04: We're having a dude moment right now.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_04: Haven't looked at him at all.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_04: Head down, just just two bros, shoulder to shoulder, making making part jokes.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_04: And finally, we say one that I said one that like got a good little chuckle out of him.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_04: We we turned to each other and I go, What's up, dude?
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_03: We worked, we worked together at Home Depot like four years ago.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_03: For three minutes, we were walking together making jokes.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_03: And he said, dude, how are you?
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_03: I'm promising that's how's the podcast going.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I hope he hears this.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_03: Shout out, Sam.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_03: Shout out to you.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_04: That was one of the all-time moments that I've had.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, that was incredible.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_04: That's so cool.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_04: And then, of course, Chad said afterwards, he's like, Dog, do you know everybody?
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_04: And it's like, no, I don't know everybody.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, you know what?
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_01: People that have been out with you in public would would like to have a word because you do know everybody everywhere you go.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_04: You live in Columbus long enough, but I hear you on the multiverse.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_04: There's the Home Depot world, the church world, the sermons on the side world.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, so there's speaking of listen, speaking of sermons on the side world, our man, we're we're ready to do some exploring again here in episode 89.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_01: Listen, uh, a another just callback to last week's episode, episode 88, uh, Darkness and Light.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_01: That has just been that was so cool to have that conversation with you.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_01: We got some good feedback uh from our listeners, and and so for me, it's really been on my mind lately, and it sort of was the springboard, or just continuing to mull over that truth about darkness and light has been the springboard for what's on my mind for this episode.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, and so it it got me thinking about a line in one of the Lord of the Rings movies.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: So we pause here to ask, where do you stand?
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: Are you a Lord of the Rings guy?
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_01: Are you uh not interested?
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_01: And and and there's no judgment here.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, well, there's a little judgment because if you don't love Lord of the Rings, you guys can go listen to another podcast.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_01: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a second, you're real that back there, Mr.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_04: I'm just kidding.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, if you guys don't love it, then well, our relationship is gonna be hindered.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_04: Dude, I I love it.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_04: And so here's here's the deal.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_04: I I obviously watched them as as a kid or growing up or whatever.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_04: I watched the trilogy, I don't know if it was a year ago or two years ago.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, you revisited it.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_04: I revisited it and watched it through.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_04: And dude, there were so many things that I had either A, forgotten, or B, I don't know if I just stumbled upon like an extended cut or there was truly new scenes and new things that I did, you know, but I love it.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_04: It's so good.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not caught up on everything to uh right from the lore perspective, but those are three great movies.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_01: Well, bro, I I'm really glad to hear that because it was gonna be a something we were gonna have to discuss.
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  SPEAKER_01: If that had not been your answer seriously, though, there's a a line in the first one.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_01: There are three Lord of the Rings movies, there are three Hobbit movies who came out much later.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_04: And I have not seen those.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, and those are good.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_01: There's some great stuff in there, but Lord of the Rings is the obviously the centerpiece of the whole thing, and uh, and in the first one of those episodes, the primary character named Frodo Frodo Baggins the Hobbit, you know, Frodo, not to be confused with another cinematic uh character named Fredo from the Godfather trilogy.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, you don't know.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_01: Do you know Godfather?
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_04: No, I know what the movie is.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, Fredo was the brother of Michael Corleone Al Pettino, okay, and he betrayed the family.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_01: And then, of course, Al Patino found out, gave him a kiss and said, I know it was you, Fredo.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you broke my heart.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, I'm sorry.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_01: Why did we need the godfather in the Lord of the Rings?
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_04: I just had to You start talking about people betraying family members, and Freddie Freeman came into my mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, Freddie.
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  SPEAKER_00: Did we got Frodo?
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  SPEAKER_04: We've got Fredo Fredo and we got Freddy's.
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  SPEAKER_04: Freddie.
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  SPEAKER_04: Okay, all right.
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  SPEAKER_04: I'm sorry.
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  SPEAKER_04: Here we go.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right, Frodo Baggins.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_01: Frodo Baggins.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_01: You know, he's tasked with taking the ring to Mount Doom and throwing it into the Sauron.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_01: Go ahead, man.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_01: Love it.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_01: Well, along the way in that first movie, he meets this elf lady, this elf princess, queen, really.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_01: Her name is Galadriel.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_04: Wouldn't have gotten that one, but yeah, okay.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_04: I remember the scene.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_04: Remember the scene, but if you'd asked me to remember her name, I'm out.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_04: But yeah, okay.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_01: And so she is aware of this, the perilous journey he's about to go on with the fellowship of the ring, which is the name of the first movie, of course.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_01: And so she is helping them all prepare.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_01: She's giving them blessings and many other uh giving gifts and whatnot.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, so one of the things that she gives, she gives to Fredo.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_04: Sorry, let's just try it.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_04: She gives to Freddie.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, my daughter is never gonna forgive me.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_04: I'm keeping it in.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_01: No, go on in.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_01: I knew you would.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_01: I knew you would, Williams.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so anyway, she gives to Frodo this uh, it's a it's like a crystal, a small crystal uh jar.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_01: Flask almost and inside of this is the light from one of the most sacred stars in the elf universe.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, and you would think, how do you get light from a star into a crystal container?
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's Tolkien.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just say yes and move on.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, we we're there, and and so she hands it to him, and it's of course, you you just the vibe is oh, how valuable this thing is.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_01: What an honor.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: But she says this line to him, and this is the line that came into my mind multiple times as I've been mulling over the darkness and light vibe from last week.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: And here's what Galadriel says to Frodo.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_01: I said it right.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, see, now I'm now you're I'm shaking.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: My confidence way down here.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_04: Closer walk the first two batteries of the ending.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_04: Here we go.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my way down here.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: But here's what she says to Frodo.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: She gives it to him and she says, May it be a light for you in dark places when all the other lights have gone out.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_01: May it be a light for you in dark places where all other lights have gone out.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: Isn't that beautiful?
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: That's a great line.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_01: And it as it turns out, multiple times along the journey, he Frodo himself and of course his his right-hand man Sam did utilize the light that this thing carried and in critical moments, and it just illuminated dark places and helped them fight the big spider.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: You know, all this crazy stuff the right way.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: Illuminated the path, helped them get up those stairs, it just all the stuff.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_01: It was a light for them in dark places where all other lights had gone out.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_01: And then this when I started thinking about that line, it I then I flash back to this really cool day in the life of Rico and his kids.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_01: It was on one of my road trips with my kids.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, and so now we should plug episode 72, The Road to Lynchburg.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yes, because this is this is an example of what we talked about in that episode.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_01: But we're driving along, and my daughter, and and we have seen these movies together.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_01: Uh she's much more into it than I am.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: I remember a lot, but I she reminded me of that line, right?
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_01: About a light in dark places where all other lights have gone out, and then she introduces me to a song, a worship song by Hillsong Worship Team.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, and it's called From the Inside Out.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_01: Now, I had not heard that song before, and so Carly is laying it out.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: She she I mean, she just got prepared me by giving me the line the lady said to Frodo, and then she says, Listen to this song.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: So we should we start listening to the song.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_04: Now, how long ago was this?
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: This had to be 2011.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, all right.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: So this is a while ago.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, got it.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, bro.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this is a long time ago.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_01: So she she tells me about that and then listens to the song From the Inside Out by Hillsong, right?
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: And it gets to the chorus or the pre-chorus, whatever, and it says, and it's talking about God along in that in the faith journey of a believer, and it says about God, it says, You're everlasting, and your light will shine when all else fades.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_01: Whoa.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_01: When all else fades, your light will shine.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: And she goes, When I hear that song, I think about Galadriel saying that to Frodo.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_01: And when I hear her saying that to Frodo, I think about that song.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: And now those two things are forever linked in the Rico universe.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_01: And it's it's just such this powerful thing to say again, piggybacking on a lot of what we talked about in our previous episode, that we find ourselves all the time in really intense, dark situations.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, where hope is fading, where maybe even where our best efforts have fallen short and are getting us nowhere.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: And maybe people we were counting on, for whatever reason, weren't able to come through for us.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever the situation might have been, we're in a dark place, and the other lights are starting to go out.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_01: You know, lights from other sources, they're starting to go out, and all else is fading.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_01: And what we need most in that moment is the light of the glory of God.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_01: Is that what we talked about last week?
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's for God to say, let there be light, let light shine in that darkness, so that my child can know I'm with them.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_04: And it's and it's the exact same God, it's the exact same Father that said, Let there be light in the beginning.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_04: In the first place, he's the same one that's saying, Let there be light now inside the heart, the soul, the mind of that child, of that beloved son or of that redeemed daughter.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_04: So good.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's the book of Micah.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's a sort of an obscure prophet to most people.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: And in verse uh chapter 7, verse 8, it says, Though I sit in darkness, the Lord will be a light for me.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_01: Though I sit in darkness, the Lord will be a light for me.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: And so look, it's it's a pretty it's a pretty simple application that we're talking about here right now as we're talk having this conversation together and with our listeners is let's just think about the dark places that we're sitting in and the and and the times and and it might be right now it might not be something we have to remember or prepare for ourselves in the future although there will be plenty of those along our our journey it might be right now where we are sitting in darkness the Lord will be a light for you there's this there's this one line at the beginning of that song from the inside out by by Hillsong.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_01: And it actually I think the song even starts with this line and it says a thousand times I've failed still your mercy remains if I stumble again I will still be caught in your grace or by your grace or something like that.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_01: And so that that's an interesting way to start a song let's reel the people in a thousand times I've failed wow gutsy call but beautiful am I right yeah just to say this is this is the reality of my life sometimes I'm in the darkness and I'm there because of me.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah because what I did correct or didn't do or whatever.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah but there's there's often brokenness and shattered expectations and just a lot of sadness around that.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_04: I think it's a I think it's a great sermon on the side just piggybacking off of last week especially given the weather events that have taken place here in the South I think there are people that whether you live in Columbus or different parts of Georgia or Alabama that have experienced long periods of time without power or maybe unfortunately somehow you still don't have power when we get to that place where it is only darkness around us man you are desperate for light.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_04: And I remember being in a situation this weekend we were out without power for not a long period of time.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_04: But you start looking at lamps you start opening up the refrigerator is the refrigerator light going to come on you know you anywhere there could be light you start looking for light and it's like why don't I have that same mindset when there's light all around you know and so I I hate that time and time again in my own life and maybe there are people that can share this sentiment but I hate that I've got to get to a place in my life or that I've gotten to a place in my life where essentially all hope and all light is lost and it's gone.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_04: That is that's a that's a devastatingly sad place to be.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_04: And if you're listening to this podcast and you are this episode of this podcast and you are in that place friend let me be the first one with some hand up accountability to say that there is light that is available to you.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_04: And it is a beautiful light and it's a light that has been given and it's a light that when all else is lost when all darkness seems to consume us that that is the same light that will light our path that will light up our soul that will that will bring us into alignment with the Father and man that's just this is such a beautiful sermon on the side man.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_01: Oh thank you bro let me let me lay another verse on you from Isaiah the prophet Isaiah chapter 60 verse two he's talking about he's prophesying about uh God's glory coming to his people okay but he starts with a verse two starts with kind of a depressing vibe.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_01: A thousand times I failed the same the same thing yeah seriously and I will pause here you know what I the reason I love the thousand times I failed is because I remember it my mentor in recovery who our listeners have met Trey Lovern oh yeah episodes uh 70 and 71 I think where he and interviews with him and his wife Shelly and early in my recovery and I was just I felt like no traction no momentum and you know I was like am I ever going to change yeah and I remember talking to him one day and he said this phrase that he has since said to me tons of times he says Richard just keep moving towards the Father and you sometimes we hear this this whole phrase move towards the light you know but seriously that's what he was saying.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_01: You feel like you're in a dark place but the Lord is your light to move towards that light.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway back to Isaiah chapter 60 verse 2 it says darkness as black as night covers all the nations of the earth thanks a lot Isaiah but then he goes on to say but the glory of the Lord rises and appears over you the glory dark deep darkness over all the people but God's glory is going to come to you and his light is going to shine and people are going to come to that light.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_01: So the truth is and we've said it in a number of different ways here tonight in this episode but when we're in our dark places that's where God meets us.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_01: He does his best work in the dark dude because he comes in and he brings light and so we are urging everybody who's listening to put your trust in the one who can be the Lord himself who can be a light for you in darkness.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_01: That's a beautiful thing and uh and as as as Brad is is he tends to do sometimes when we talk about songs that are meaningful to us in an episode he Brad's gonna take us out.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_04: He's gonna wrap this episode up by giving us uh an unplurred sermons on the side version of From the inside out a thousand times I fail still your mercy remains and should I stumble again I'm caught in your grace everlasting your light will shine within all spades never ending your glory goes beyond all fame will above my purpose remains the art of losing myself in bringing you praise everlasting your light will shine when all else fades never ending your glory goes beyond all things in my heart and my soul I give you control consume me from the inside of Lord the justice temperature become my embrace from the heart and my soul I give you control consume me from the inside out Lord let justice and praise become my embrace to love me from the inside