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Taking Over the Family Practice with Dr. Taher · The Millionaire Dentist™

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Hello everyone, Welcome to the Millionaire Dentist Podcast, brought to you by four
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Quadnans Advisory. On this podcast, we break down the world of dentistry,
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finances and business practices to help you become the millionaire dentists you deserve to be.
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Please be advised we do speak with an honest tongue and may not be
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safe for work. Hello and welcome. This is Casey Hires back at the
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Millionaire Dentist Podcast in studio with co host Jared Bridgeman. Hey, that's me.
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What's up, pal? You know, not much, just hanging out.
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We're supposed to get two inches of snow. You got your snow gear
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on? I do. I got outside this morning and it was starting to
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snow a little bit already, and I was chilled. I was like,
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I need to throw something on. It's been weird this week because what three
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days ago it was almost sixty Yeah, yeah, Indiana weather, very very
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finicky. Well, today we are excited to have a guest on and it's
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a client of ours, doctor Michael Taylor, and great guy, great client.
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We were actually we met up at the Yankee Dental Congress and had an
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adult beverage or too and we're just chatting it up and and uh I thought
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we'd invite you onto to the podcast today, Michael, So thank you for
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joining us. Thank you, Casey, thank you Jared. I'm excited to
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be on. Yeah, let's let's get this going. Well, I mean,
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that's the podcast fame, you know, after this launch is it's gonna
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be hard for you to be in public. Yeah, I get that,
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getting that podcast bomb will do it? Do you well? Good? Really,
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we just we want to ask you some questions and and you know,
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share a little bit about your experience with with our listeners. But I always
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like to go back to to kind of the kind of the start, you
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know, Yeah, yeah, you did your undergrad at holy Cross and you
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went to Toughts University in Boston for dental school. But back up into whye
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dentistry? What what? What was it about dentistry and and you getting into
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it. I just want to hear that a little bit. Uh so dentistry.
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I actually fought dentistry for a while. I've been around dentistry for almost
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my entire life. My mother graduated from dental school at TOPS when I was
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like nine or ten years old. So she did it with three kids.
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I couldn't do it just alone. So I actually grew up like actually in
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the toughs clinics too when I was like a kid. I don't know how
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how that happened, but so from like early on, I started doing small
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work for her at her office. Actually I'm one before the one I owned
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now when I was like fourteen, So I always knew I wanted to be
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in like a medical profession. I just was like, no, I'm not
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going to do dentistry. I'm not going to follow in like my mother's footsteps.
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So you said, so, Michael, you said you fought dentistry.
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Yeah, like for like teenage years, like how long. I just I
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just like I was just like no, I just don't want to do it.
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So like I was like, you know what, maybe I'll just do
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like regular doctor or like work at a hospital. But quickly realize that I
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don't like hospitals. Hospitals are not my favorite place, right, And then
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I was like, yeah, you know, let's try terinary. And I
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actually was in the veterinary field for like three years during and after college,
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both as like a farm hand and it's like a veterinary tech at like a
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small animal hospital not fun. I know, I didn't know that about you.
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That's some real you were a farmhand. That's some real work man.
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Yeah yeah, help birth birth animals and caps and stuff like that, or
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yeah, it was. It was mainly just uh, like taking care of
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a herd of horses, like and like a semi wild herd of like maniature
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horses. It was that was the fun part. I like that, but
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yeah, the small animal part not not what it was cracked up to be.
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That's a really hard job. So so then when when did you soften
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and you're like, you know what, maybe, yeah, it was.
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It was like finally after like three years, it's like, you know what,
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like I don't know if I want to do this veterinary school things.
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So I'm like, you know what, Mom, She's like, just try
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it. She's like, just work for me. And so, I mean
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working for her wasn't fun because it's working for your mom. But I ended
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up being your assistant for like two years and then I was like, you
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know what, this isn't that bad of a gig. I think I could
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do this. So in like twenty thirteen, that's when I started down to
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school tough. That's really interesting that you found out you actually do love this
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profession even while working with your mom or for your mom. Yeah. Yeah,
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that kind of says a lot about it. I can't say the same
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now and then. So when you graduated, you actually you didn't go back
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to Massachusetts, you went up to Vermont. So yeah, same thing.
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I was like, you know what, I'm not going to jump right into
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my mom's practice. I'm not going to do like this shoe right into a
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parent's parents practice. So I wanted to kind of blaze my own trail.
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I was very fortunate to land an associate position in like northern Vermont at like
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a really successful practice, like very well run and luckily up there, I
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mean, there's not many specialists in Vermont, so if you want to do
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specialty work, you have that opportunity. So I was able to like really
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hone a lot of great skills while I was practicing up there, mm hmm.
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And then, uh, yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't until like
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the pend I mean a lot of stories nowadays, it's like it wasn't until
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the pandemic that I decided. I was like, you know, I'm gonna
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come home take over the family business. Moms like nearing retirement. Practice wasn't
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doing so great, and I was like, yeah, let's let's just turn
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this into like this is gonna be easy. Let's turn this into like a
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well oiled machine, like right, like the one in Vermont. No,
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it didn't happen. Now, now walk me through just high level like you
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and your mom talking about, hey, I'm gonna move home and like be
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a partner and ultimately now you own the practice. But like, walk me
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through what it was. Negotiation sounded like it was like I mean, I
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think it was like during the time I was like all my buddies, like
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I was like the only one furloughed of all my buddies in Massachusetts. And
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she was like I'm having a really hard time here. And she's like,
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you know, like it wasn't like let's be partners. She's like here are
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the keys and then what Yeah, she was like I'm She's like, we're
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either gonna sell like they think they were talking to some DSOs and numbers were
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coming like real low. My dad was pretty beat up about it, and
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he's like, you know what, like Mike, just take it, just
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take it. And I was like, you know what, all right,
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I'll come home and uh and do it. So yeah, she she just
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toshed to the keys and said go exactly exactly and then talk a little bit
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about Okay, now this is my practice. What did you walk into?
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So I like this kind of goes into like I don't know, like I
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had like this great idea. Like when I'm up there, I had all
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these things going through my head and I was like, you know, this
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is what we're gonna do. We're gonna do this, We're gonna do this,
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and it's like everything looked great hypothetically, and then when I came back,
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it was just like, oh my god, I'm in over my head.
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It wasn't fun. It was like I was like super confident in my
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ability is to provide like dentistry and my patients like excellent dentistry. I have
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no question about that. But business ownership of running a practice proved to be
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way more than I anticipate that. Yeah, like month, month, three
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month, six year one, Like when when did that hit you that You're
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like wow, like week two? Yeah, between like trying to grow a
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practice that was shrinking, turning a profit from like a practice that was like
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next to shuddering, like new staff, current staff, new proto calls.
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Like it was, it was tough. It was. I was just like,
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I'm in over my head and like every day she's like, it's going
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to get better. It's going to get better. It's gonna get better.
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But like I'm pretty type A as a person, and I was like every
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like even like my fiance was like, listen, you just gotta keep going.
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You got to keep going. I appreciate you saying week two because so
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many have imposter syndrome and it'll take him a year, two years, a
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decade, two decades before they finally say, you know, hey, this
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is hard. Yeah, what what challenges as a as a young owner?
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You know most of them? I assume we're not on the clinical side.
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No, the clinical side is the easy part. Like I mean, dentistry
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is hard for a lot of people once you learn it and you master like,
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yeah, I mean I could do dentistry in my sleep. It's but
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then owning a practice, it's like I said, it's like the staffing is
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tough, hiring, firing new staff, like dealing with the challenges with staff
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and just finding the time to also do all that. Oh and it's exactly.
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And the biggest thing that I was like the most scared about in which
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I found no time to do was the books. Like I didn't realize what
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that took. Like I downloaded quick books. I'm like, how hard can
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this be? Like and then like I'm just I was just waighing over my
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head and I just I really had to rely on like our family accountant to
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like try and help me. But what does he know? I mean,
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he he heated his best and I really think of what he did. But
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it's just like every day I'm like, oh god, am I really going
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to do this right now? And so what I would do, I'd shut
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my computer and I'd go on with my week. Ignorance is bliss almost Now
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that were you able to start growing, growing the practice and sort of away
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at some of the making it the practice you wanted to be or did you
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feel like it was you know, a step? Yeah, it was.
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I definitely was very fortunate because a lot of the patients that have been there
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have been there for a long time and they actually knew me like as an
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as a teenager, like and so a lot of the patients really came around
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to me immediately which is not what I have when I first moved up to
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Vermont, so they noticed that changes were coming. I actually had slowly started
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changing the practice over like paint cabinets all that before I actually came back,
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so it wasn't like a huge sticker shock for the patients. I had renovated
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it like slowly over time with like my dad, like me and him together,
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and yeah, it actually we started seeing more progress. I'm a lot
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faster to a lot more dentistry than my mother. She has a lot of
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referrals, and so it was doing well. But like what am I supposed
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to do? Like there's obviously money coming to the bank. What I do
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this money? Is this the right number? It's like everything just kind of
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was open ended, like I had no idea. I had no idea,
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but it was like, you know what, I'm making money. I'm happy,
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hopefully this works. And how old were you when you like you're the
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owner of the practice and you're navigating these waters. I started like I think
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I was just just turned thirty two. Okay, yeah, so it's been
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about three and a half years, I believe now. Well, it's interesting
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a lot of times practice owners that that it's like year two, year three
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is when they kind of start to go, Okay, I've got to get
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some help or I've got to make some changes because it's a lot. But
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you you you sort of knew that now kind of getting into a little bit
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of you know, you wanting to broaden your horizons and learn new procedures and
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really better yourself clinically. To talk about that, I you know, I
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don't want to. I want you to tell it, right, like,
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yes we met at an implant course, right, but yeah, but talk
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to me your mindset where you're like, you know what I'm going to I
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want to place implants. I'm going to spend time and money to better myself.
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I And this is you know, in your early to mid thirties.
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So like I said, like in Vermont, like I was doing everything like
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i Endo moler endo, like surgical extractions, that I got to do everything
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up there, and I really wanted I told myself in dental school, like
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I really want to start placing implants within five years. I had buddies who
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went through gprs and all stuff like that and they were placing implants. He's
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like, dude, Mike, you got to do it. And so it
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was like the second year, I think of ownership and I was like I
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don't think I can. There's a lot of money to it to invest,
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Like I taken out of practice, but then like I was actually getting bogged
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down by the practice, Like you know what, dentistry is not fun,
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and so I was like I need to do something to like bring a little
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bit more spark back in the dentistry. And I was like, you know,
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let's just just let's just take this course. So yeah, I took
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the Boston Maxi course, which is like a year long comprehend of course an
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implantology. Like I've always liked surgical aspects of dentistry. And then I also
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like realized there's an opportunity opportunity here patients. I'm sending all these patients out,
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and a lot of them were like, yeah, you know what,
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forget it. I don't want to go anywhere. It's like all right,
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because trust they already trust you, you know exactly. They don't like getting
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shipped around and it's like oh this, I don't know if this person takes
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my insurance. I'm comfortable here, and so like they don't want to go
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to a new provider. And then return to have the process completed by me.
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And then I also realized, I mean it's implants, like it's a
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new revenue stream for the office. So like clinically, what was the hardest
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part clinically about learning them? Like what was kind of that learning curve or
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what was the what was maybe the hardest part the treatment planning? Okay,
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treatment planning, Yeah, treatment plank. That was the scariest part to me.
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I mean obviously that's why I didn't want to go to like there's like
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these courses all over the world where you can just go in place like thirty
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implants it's in like three days, and then fly back from Pejuana, Like
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I mean sure, Like I'm sure it's a blast, but am I really
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going to feel confident to all of a sudden bring this back to my patients
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and not really mess up? So that's why I the MAXI course really stood
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out to me. And actually I had a one of my not a classmate
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who was a year below me. He took it and I reached out to
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him and he's like, yeah, man, it's like it's very comprehensive.
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And so that's why I was like, you know, I'm gonna do this
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a little more expensive one year long. And then once I got the treatment
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planning aspect, I was like, oh, I can do this. And
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then yeah, I had a patient in, put an implant in, and
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that's it. The rest is history. It's it's pretty straightforward. If you
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do your due diligence in planning. Well, we you know, we like
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achievers, and it's incredible to me. You know how many dentists potentially delay
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doing what you did because it is time and money. I mean it's a
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year, it's a lot of money, it's a lot of time time,
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and it's uncomfortable meaning nobody likes necessarily change or struggling to learn something. And
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so kudos to you again at a young age to go, I want to
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better myself. I want a new revenue stream. I have control of this.
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I'm going to commit to doing it. So many, so many practice
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owners they're frustrated different revenue flows, but they don't they don't do these sorts
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of things, and so that's kudos to you. And then uh, I
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flew into Boston one morning and went to I don't know was the W Hotel.
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Yeah, great, little, great little spot, and uh, you
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know, I got a nice relationship with doctor Brian Jackson, great guy,
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and I come in and present to some of his uh you know his people
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sometimes and rolled in and had a flight out to Nashville, had had to
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get out of there. But ye kind of talk about that you're at an
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implant course and then you know, some some guy rolls in coming in hot
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and starts screaming at you about the business side of dentistry And let me know,
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was it at first sight? Yeah, it almost was love it for
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a sight and I'll get to that. So yeah, it was like it
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was like a quick like almost like a lunch and learned type thing. And
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all of us are like, we just finished three four hours of lecture,
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so we're all kind of beat and I was like what is this four quadrants?
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Like what is And like there's a lot of sales through the ham.
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I'm like, what's this person's selling? And I've been and then so I
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was like there there was like this little car Casey introduced himself. There's like
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this little cartoon on the on the screen and I was like, all right,
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what's this going to be? And the end of the cartoon, I
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was like, oh my god, that just spoke to me. I was
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like, this is what I need. Like I like, I'm just here
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learning implants, but really in the back of my mind, I have this
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practice where like the same thing. It's like I feel like an impost there
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and then like I think, like that Sunday, I was just hit with
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like an astronomically large tax build from my accountant at like nine pm on a
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Sunday, and then all of a sudden, this four quadrants like this,
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like the room like lit up, and like I see Casey like putting his
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stuff in his bag and he's like, I gotta get out of here.
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And I like eagerly filled out the questionnaire and like ran it over there and
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I'm pretty sure I wrote at the bottom of it, please help me.
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I was like heading out the hall to head to the airport. Yeah,
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and you were so nice and I remember seeing that and I'm like, but
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again, kudos to you, because so many times ego gets in the way,
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right, and you realized you needed help on that early on. You
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take an implant course, you hear somebody talk and you're already a little beat
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from three hours, but you had the courage to go. It's worth the
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conversation. Oh yeah, I was. I think got on the way home,
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I like call my dad and I was like, you got to hear
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about this that I called. I told Lisa and she's like, well,
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yeah, see where to see what it is. But yeah, I'm glad.
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I'm glad you guys gave me the opportunity to apply. Well, and
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you know, we talk about it on this course. I mean, we
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can't help everybody. We're very selective and it's an equal vetting process. But
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I guess from your end talk a little bit about just sort of that dating
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process, that vetting process, what that's like, and then ultimately what your
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experience has been having a comprehensive team that can help you on the business and
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financial side. Ah yeah, So, I mean it was very It was
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a lot of paperwork to find and like I said, for me, having
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like everything was kind of a mess with like the accountant, like the paperwork
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transfer the business. So it's a lot of work for me to get all
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the paperwork in. But I was like super eager. I got to get
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this in like the same day, like as fast as I possibly can.
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Very nervous, I'll tell you that I was very nervous, like I really
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need I don't care what the cost is. I really need this, like
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partner, like I need to like go to bed and I knowing that someone
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has my back. It's it's funny you said that the getting everything that exercise
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alone here, you're like peak behind the curtain. It's twofold one. We
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need that data to look at a practice and see can we help them.
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But that exercise for you to go through a lot of times, it shows
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people I don't know where these things are. It's yeah, it's some basic,
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basic things. But the act of going to get them that that's a
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test on our and can somebody do it? Can they get it to us
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in a timely manner that shows us if it's important or not. But just
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just doing that was probably on your rent. It felt heavy. Yeah,
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it was. I mean I'm pretty sure like my like my current accountant didn't
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even have started my taxes at that point. I think he like filed an
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extension and I'm like, no, man, like you got to get this
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now. I need this yesterday for these people. And then but luckily he's
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a good friend and he tried to do it as fast as he can.
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He's like let me know if you need anything else, And I'm like,
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thank you, I really appreciate it. But and then yeah, after the
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first converse, a couple of conversations uh with Casey, and then when you
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guys finally said that, yeah, we'd like to offer you, like the
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partnership, I think I hung up the phone and was like, oh my
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god, like my life just changed, Like this is like the best day
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of my life. Well, and you don't have kids yet and your wedding
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day hasn't happened yet, So you can say that and not get in trouble.
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You can say that not get in trouble. Yeah, I'm able to
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change that by the end of the year. And then you know, share
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a little bit about your experience that you you know, again having a team
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help with this stuff and not just the you know what it helps financially or
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my taxes, but like the stress part. But I'm just curious just how
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that's been. Yeah, So like going back, I mean, like go
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in dentistry, I mean every day, Dennis, we make we make decisions
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every single day, like every two seconds, you're making a decision whether it's
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for your staff, for your patient, for the business. So like I'll
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just say one of the best decisions I've made was to contact for quadrants.
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It's it's been a huge weight off my shoulders. Yeah, there's aches and
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pains of being a practice owner, but like I really feel I have like
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a solid team to fall back and ask you guys questions that backs me up
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in every decision I'm gonna give. Like I mean, I'll shout out to
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like Joel as Steve, I email them like four times a day, like
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we just probably questions that are like he knows this answer, but I every
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decision I make, I throw it through four quadrants first, and like I
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mean, a lot of people are like, oh, you don't want like
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I've talked to like different business or you don't want this guy telling you what
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to do, blah blah blah. Every decision I've made and put through four
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quadrants, I've had little to no pushback at all with any decisions I go.
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But but all the responses are backed by data that's specific to my practice.
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So when I make that final call, I know it's an informed and
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a correct decision, which is the business aspect is huge, huge, Yeah,
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because we've talked about, you know, on this podcast several times is
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you know, we try to remove the emotion of making a decision, providing
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that data and that information to be like, this is what we think is
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the best possible you know, solution. Uh, And then you feel more
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confident when you've made it, like you said, oh yeah, because you're
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backed up, you had an instinct, it's backed up with data, you
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feel better about it. Oh, it's it's it's insane. I like,
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for example, the biggest decision I knew I wanted to do it my mother
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was a network with like eighteen or nineteen PPOs, so like and like most
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people are like, oh yeah, two three PPOs, I'm like, oh
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no. I was like, if there's a PPO and the son, I
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take it, and I was like, this is and so leaving people like
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that was one of the biggest things I think I mentioned with Casey and like
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the original initial calls, like I would like to start leaving these PPOs,
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but I'm scared, like what if I lose all these patients, Like what
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if the practice falls? And it's like a very hard decision to make.
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But with the help of four quadrants and like the advisory team, I was
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like, no matter what, I do. It's like, this is a
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positive and it's it's been I've made some huge changes in the past year and
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I'm already seeing the positives of it. And yeah, there's gonna be some
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growing pains, but we knew that. But with the team and having that
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the advising team behind me, like, I know, I've made the right
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decision. Well for us, the more coachable people are, yeah, the
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better. And you know, for for for you to find us in your
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mid thirties and to be coachable, you know, not to get into too
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much detail, but you'll have the financial freedom, you know, in your
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early fifties to do a lot of different things, and one of those could
22:11
be, you know, to retire. Now, when people have the opportunity
22:15
to retire early, typically they actually enjoy practicing dentistry even more. Yeah,
22:21
but just to have the freedom and the options, you know, at that
22:25
age versus I get bummed out when I talk to people that are fifty eight
22:27
and sixty two and they haven't done this, They've tried to figure it out
22:32
on their own for two or three decades, and you know, ugh,
22:37
I don't like those but my gosh, you know, you having not letting
22:41
ego get in the way and being coachable. It's just going to afford you
22:45
so many options. And then again, congratulations, you'll be getting married you
22:48
know here shortly. But to have all that in place before before that,
22:55
it's going to be such a breath of fresh air and allow you, guys
22:57
to not be bogged down with the financial stressors that that get into marriages.
23:03
Yeah. No, that's I mean in terms of like I never really thought
23:07
like the biggest thing was like the help with the like when I heard you
23:11
talk and like the bookkeeping and stuff like that, was that was like my
23:14
biggest You're like quick Books, I'm yeah, yeah, I think it was.
23:19
It was during the onboarding. I think Kevin, the guy who the
23:23
accountant who onboarded me, He's like, yeah, many, and I was
23:26
just asking him real questions. I was like, He's like, yeah,
23:29
many of our clients don't even like look at their books ever again, And
23:33
I was like, no way. And then guess what, I'm one of
23:37
those clients. I think two months, two months after I onboarded last year,
23:41
I deleted quick Books. I haven't looked at it, and I'm totally
23:47
confident whatever I send to you guys, it's getting done correctly because like that
23:52
too, Like I think a lot of dentists, like my buddy just has
23:53
like a buddy do it. It's like having a dental specific CPA is param
24:00
out like it's crazy, Like immediately you find things out you should have done
24:03
this, should have done this, should have done this, and I'm like,
24:06
yep, well I'm gonna trust you guys now, I'm just gonna go
24:10
home. Well, and the beautiful thing is they're up to date, they're
24:12
correct, they're complete, and they tie to your tax return. It's frightening.
24:18
I mean, we're looking at data this month and we've got multiple people
24:22
going through our process and their quick books are behind, they're incorrect, they
24:25
don't tie to their tax returns. Well, guess what the irs loves to
24:30
do little audit checks with that. That's a real red flag. And so
24:33
to your point, not needing to worry about it, but then knowing that
24:37
it's done better than it ever has been before. I appreciate you mentioning that
24:40
and anything else you want to share with h It's funny we're just talking.
24:44
But you know, we've got a good amount of listeners out there and dentists
24:48
and you know, probably some folks starting out like you, but then also
24:52
maybe some folks that have delayed mastering this. Yeah, I think, and
24:56
I one of like the the one thing that I I really wasn't wasn't really
25:00
on my mind and I think you just alluded to, was like the retirement
25:03
and like the personal planning. I figured just maxing out of four one K
25:08
over my lifetime or my career time would be like enough. But and down
25:14
the road, I'm like, I think my buddy just like hired a personal
25:18
financial planner or something, and I was like, yeah, I don't really
25:21
need that. I was like, I can focus on that like my forties
25:23
or fifties. Well, I'm glad, Like I'm glad four Quadrants has a
25:27
different take on that. And like I'm coming up on like my year anniversary
25:32
with you guys, and it's insane how much I've saved, and I'm gonna
25:36
tell you right now, I haven't stopped spending. I'm glad you mentioned that.
25:41
Ye so much. So many people think, oh, these they're gonna
25:45
make me not spend, and so thanks for mentioning that, because it's true.
25:48
If you get things right, we want our clients to still have fun.
25:52
Yeah, and no. I mean, we're definitely having fun and like
25:53
I said, I'm getting married this ball. We're starting to on board my
25:56
my Beyonce's finances and like both of us are excited to see like what you
26:00
guys will come up with for us. And like, I mean, yeah,
26:03
I love dentistry and all, but I really don't want to practice in
26:07
my sixties. Amen. Amen, So I'm sure I'm at the end of
26:12
all of this. I'm sure like at the end of my career. I
26:15
think my favorite part of the partnership would would when I decide to hang up
26:19
the drills, is what the team and myself have achieved for like my personal
26:26
finances. I think that's that's probably the most exciting factor. Well, it's
26:30
the scoreboard. And again, dentists like helping people and practicing dentistry. But
26:34
let's be honest. I mean, we're doing it to make money and to
26:37
retire and to help people. But so many people won't. They don't want
26:42
to think about retirement when they just kick it down the road and get kudos
26:45
for you to to do it early, and it's certainly going to pay off.
26:48
And I appreciate you, man, I appreciate you hopping on this podcast
26:52
and and I think did I wait until about the I think our second adult
26:56
beverage was delivered, and I'm like, hey, you want to be on
26:59
the podcast? And I was like, yeah, definitely podcast. That sounds
27:04
great, and You're like, wait, you really want me to Okay?
27:07
But no, hopefully this is uh, hopefully this hasn't been too painful.
27:11
But I appreciate you sharing your story because I think it's going to resonate with
27:14
a lot of people. And again, you know, an achiever, but
27:18
then just still there was areas that needed help men and and the worldview is
27:22
as an achiever, well I should just figure this out. And the ones
27:25
that realize, well I'm really good at something I can monetize it, but
27:29
I'm not good at these other things find people who are. And you did.
27:33
And I'm glad. I flew into Boston and for six hours and met
27:37
you at the W and you're gonna be uh, you know you're gonna be
27:41
You're gonna be great. You're gonna be able to call your shot. But
27:44
thank you so much for joining us, and I really appreciate it. Yes,
27:48
thank you, Yeah, thank you, Jared, thank you, Casey.
27:51
I was really really happy to be on there for you guys. Well
27:53
good, Yeah, we'll be heading to we're actually exhibiting. We don't do
27:57
a ton of exhibiting, but we're doing the Donnic Show in Georgia. We're
28:02
also going to be at the Midwinter and then I think I'm in Tampa in
28:06
Nashville. So again, all these events, I'm looking for more doctor Michael
28:10
Taylors who come in and go, huh, this is interesting. Maybe I
28:12
should spend make a had a phone call and get the note. And if
28:15
that's you out there listening and you're ready to follow in these saying footsteps,
28:18
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28:22
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28:25
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28:33
you. That's all the time we have today. Thank you to our guests
28:37
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