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2024 Big Ten Media Days: LIVE From Indianapolis · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Welcome to Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning, a very special live episode of Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning
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  for Tuesday, July twenty third. I'm your host, Tom Moore. The
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  Akron game in thirty nine days, the game begets Michigan in one hundred and
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  thirty days, and twenty twenty four Big ten Media Days. Right about now,
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  Tony Gurderman at buckheadle dot com joins me. We are live in Indianapolis
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  for what is this year a three day Big ten Media Days? And Tony,
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  other than the fact that you know, people are probably gonna be running
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  up more of a tab on the company card at Saint Elmo's or whatever this
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  this week, this is sort of welcome. This is the sort of unofficial
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  welcome to the brave new world of Big ten football. Yeah, it is
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  a brave new world with more teams, new teams, and right right around
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  the corner, then is camp so used to be used to be we'd have
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  like a week between and it's like now camp starts next week, so we
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  are right in the middle of it or right at the start of it.
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  And yeah, it gets going and it just picks up speed and keeps going
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  and there's no slowing down until January something or other. January something or other,
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  it could be January twentieth. That's when the season officially ends for the
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  last two teams longest. It will be potentially the longest season in Ohio State
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  football history, or it's gonna be the longest season in someone's football history this
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  year. With the expansion to the twelve team playoff, that is one of
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  many, many, many new things this year. You know, sometimes you
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  come to these events and it's like, you know, what are we going
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  to talk to? You know, some of these guys about, like you
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  know, you know what we want to talk to Ohio State guys about.
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  You want to talk about the Michigan guys about, like, you know,
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  is there anything we want to ask? I don't know the Northwestern players.
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  And it's like, well, sure, there's a twelve team college football playoff
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  that might not apply to Northwestern, but there's four new teams in the Big
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  Ten that will apply to everyone. There is a new college football video game
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  that will apply to everyone. There is a Ohio State Northwestern game at Wrigley
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  Field that will apply to the Northwestern folks. I mean, there's there's just
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  a ton of really interesting stuff to talk about this week, to the point
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  that I almost don't even know where to start with this show. I mean,
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  what are you most interested in learning, hearing about? Is there someone
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  you're most interested in talking to this week? What do you well? I
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  mean, aside from all of the Ohio State stuff that we'll get to,
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  I do one of the questions that I do have for so many of the
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  coaches is, now that there's an expanded playoff, how does this change your
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  thinking or how do you keep it from changing your thinking and your focus and
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  your perspective? Because yeah, you now have more opportunity, a better opportunity
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  to make the playoffs, But how do you keep from looking that far ahead
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  and losing yourself in the process? And all of these How many Big Ten
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  teams have made the playoffs? Three? Right? Just Michigan, Ohio State,
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  Michigan State. Correct, Yes, so that's going to change as well.
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  Oregon has, Washington has. Yes. Welcome to the new Big Ten.
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  Exactly. One thing I'm super interested in talking to people about is okay,
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  you normally you play, you know, Ohio State, Michigan play,
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  and that's it. Ohio State in Oregon play and it's once a year.
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  Ohio State in Michigan could play back to back weeks this year. Ohio State
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  and Penn State could play twice or even three times this year. Ohio State
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  in Oregon. There's a lot of people out there that think Ohio State and
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  Oregon could play three times this year. I'm really interested in hearing people's thoughts
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  on how does that change your approach to Game one? Are you intentionally holding
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  more stuff back? I mean, Ohio State and Oregon play in October sixth,
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  so or October twelfth, sorry, October twelfth. Are you holding stuff
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  back knowing you might see these guys again in Indianapolis and December and then hey,
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  you might see him again in whatever Arlington, Texas on January ninth or
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  whatever it is. I don't think you can hold anything back that early in
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  the season because you need to win every game, or you need to keep
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  winning games because you don't know what's gonna happen after that. I think you
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  could see maybe holding something back later in the season, but I don't see
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  Ohio State or Michigan holding anything back against each other because it's against each other,
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  So I don't know. I think it would take a special circumstance to
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  where you've already got your your playoff berth locked up, Like you know,
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  you're a two loss team and you're not gonna play anybody else. You're pretty
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  good or you're one lossing or whatever, and you feel pretty secure, so
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  maybe you take it a little bit easy. But I don't know how this
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  any of us would apply to Ohio State because it is going to be a
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  very competitive Big ten, so you you can't like hold something back against Oregon.
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  I think of it as you've got to get to game seven, so
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  you throw everything that you have in game six and just you're just trying to
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  get to game seven however you can. And you know, this is maybe
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  one of these things where the coaching staffs are a little bigger this year,
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  and you know you're gonna have I don't know if it's officially officially through,
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  but it's as official as it needs to be to assume, you know,
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  sort of make assumptions on this. You are gonna have bigger coaching staffs this
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  year. Coaches can you know, basically everyone can coach on field and that
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  kind of stuff, so that's gonna open up more opportunity. This just feels
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  like a year when you're gonna need as many analysts and QC guys and everything
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  else as you can, because you know, that's sort of what a lot
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  of those you know, the nick scape in the School for Wayward Boys back
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  in the day, where he would get all these former head coaches. They
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  would come in and they would just sit there and grind film, and it
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  was just all these coaches a grinding film. This year, it feels like
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  if you're gonna be you know, you've got to scout these teams, you
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  got to scout so many more teams because it's not okay, here's the four
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  or five other potential college football playoff teams. You could face any of a
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  number of teams, and you got to be like fully prepped for biggest game
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  of the year against every single one of them. That just that just feels
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  like that's gonna be along with transfer portal, along with early signing Day,
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  man, that's gonna be a busy December. You also need to self scout
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  yourself because you might be playing another team two and they're gonna see all of
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  those things, so you have to kind of prepare for that along the way
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  as well. So it's gonna be fascinating. All hands on deck, that
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  includes players, coaches, staff, because this is, as I keeps saying,
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  it's going to be the most difficult national title ever, the most difficult
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  national title run. The winner will have done more than any other team before
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  it because of the number of really really good teams are gonna have to beat
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  to get down. Yeah, no question. So let's go through real quick,
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  just a rundown for this week because as I said off the top of
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  the show, this is a three day event. This week. It has
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  always been a two day event. They always put Ohio State in Michigan,
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  you know, one day apart, so you have to stay for both games
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  or both days because those different one knows. Those are kind of the two
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  big brands. This year there's Tuesday and Thursday, so you get a whole
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  day in the middle Tomorrow Tuesday. Ohio State really kind of carrying the weight
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  for the most part. The teams at Big ten med Days on Tuesday Illinois,
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  Rutgers, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Purdue, and Ohio State. So those
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  are your team. On Tuesday. Wednesday, you start welcoming in some of
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  the new folks UCLA, Iowa, Michigan State, USC, Nebraska, and
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  Penn State. Boy that is you go through that list and it's like,
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  boy, that is six teams that I am very interested in talking about for
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  various different reasons. Thursday finishing Strong, Oregon, Minnesota, Maryland, Washington,
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  Indiana, and Michigan. You know, I was going through and starting
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  to do prep for, you know, all the different stuff we're going to
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  be all the differ people are to be talking to, all the different storylines
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  around all these teams, and it's it is a little overwhelming to you know,
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  go from fourteen to eighteen. But not only have we gone from fourteen
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  to eighteen. Let's be honest, there are some there are some teams that
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  show up at this every year that the interest level is not that high and
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  if you miss this team or that team, like, eh, it's probably
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  fine. You're adding four big brands for significant teams and teams that are there's
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  huge interest in this year. Yeah, and with specifically, I would say
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  u USC and Oregon. It feels like when we go to Bowl games and
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  we have those media days where you're just you get to talk to all of
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  these different coaches from all from the other program and it's very big as a
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  big feel you're fascinated by, you want to learn all about it. You're
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  there for the entire hour or whatever talking to these players and coaches and now
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  that's here. And no disrespect to Indiana, Illinois, Northwestern things like that,
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  but it's it's very different. That's why the Big Ten has added them
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  because they are very different. That's why it's not Kansas State or Iowa State.
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  Again to the yeah, no offense, it's not the University of Toronto,
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  if you will. So these are very big schools, very big programs.
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  Dan Landing, I have not ever talked with him, so I'm just
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  see how that goes, see what I think of him, and because that's
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  really what's most important, how I feel about somebody. I really like Matt
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  Rule. That was my first time talking to him last year. He's just
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  a regular dude, and I thought that was cool. Yeah, there are
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  a few coaches I always look forward to talking to Matt Rule, but yeah,
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  based on last year, it was just I mean it's like you could
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  picture yourself, like, you know, sitting on a barstool shooting the breeze
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  with him for an hour, and it's like, yeah, sure that'd be
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  that'd be probably fun. James Franklin. I know that James Franklin gets some
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  mixed reviews. I always pray James Franklin like really forthright, really honestly.
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  Yeah, Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. I'm sure we'll talk to
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  him a little bit about you know, Ohio State visiting and not being the
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  big the white out game yet again this year, and some of the questions
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  for James Franklin, you have to like, how do you ask this nicely?
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  Like are you excited that you can make the playoffs now? Yeah?
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  Well, and they they have gotten closed, right, they got real close
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  in twenty sixteen, and they have gotten closed a few other times this year,
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  though. I think they're expected to be there, and well that's new,
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  that's the pressure. Yeah, and that's a new kind of pressure.
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  I'm just talking to him about Julian Fleming. I'm interested talking to him about.
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  You know, you've got your running backs back, you've got your quarterback
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  back, You've got if if the wide receiver court is there, they're real
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  interesting team. You have always have defense, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  the defense you know is going to be good. Yeah, what's what's the
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  level of expectation there? And That's That's one of the questions. I'm gonna
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  be talking to some other folks this week. What constitute success for each of
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  these teams this year? Because you know, Ohio State, we have seen
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  the nattier bus thing, and and you know, I think if Ohio State
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  was undefeated and beats Michigan and wins the Big Ten and they get to the
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  National Championship game and they lose a closed national game, I have a hard
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  time calling that a bus But I know there are people who think it is.
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  But for well at sell t shirts. If there are, there are
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  teams that I think, you know, what, what constitutes success for Michigan
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  this year? First year, lost a bunch of players. What constitute success
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  for Penn State? Did they just have to make the College Fotball Playoff?
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  They have to win a game? I mean, what what does that look?
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  Somebody on the buck I had a message board asked about Michigan, what
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  constitutes a successful season ice of making the playoffs? Yeah, because that is
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  now the expectation. They've done it three years in a row. You don't
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  do it and you're your first year without Marball, and that's gonna be noticeable.
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  I think Penn State. Do they need to be Do they need to
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  do more than make the playoffs? I mean, because this just feels like,
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  Okay, you're gonna make the playoffs. That's you've already We've already written
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  that part of the story. Now make it something more, because that's not
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  enough. We've already put you in the playoffs even though they haven't done it
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  yet. And I do think there there's a real pathway for them to go
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  like eight and four this season, which would be I think devastating to them.
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  Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a that's a that's a real possibility.
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  Yep. A couple of super chats want to get you real quick.
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  Havn R says, love the content, enjoy the indie trip, go bucks,
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  appreciate it. We are definitely going to enjoy the indie trip. This
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  is always you know, this is always a really busy week and we're driving
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  home like zombies because we've been running around all day every day for now for
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  three days. But man, there's just so much exciting stuff to talk about
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  this year that I have been like counting the days to this for weeks,
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  and it's it'll be nice to not just talk about the same things over and
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  over again, like there's actually good stuff happening, even though not a lot
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  happens during the summer, but we'll have new things to talk about having talked
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  to people about them. So like and then of course, as I said,
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  camp starts Thursday next Thursday, so it's it's off and running. And
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  another super chat from good buddy, longtime frint of the program, Jordan Kapler.
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  Always one of my favorite comments. Yes, always any chance bucket heitle
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  can pay denzel Burg to interview coaches and players. Denzil Burgh if you're if
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  you are new or have not, have not heard us talk about this before.
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  Denzil Burg is probably our favorite interview among the current players on the team,
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  just because he is very very honest about you know, for good or
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  for ill, you know you can this is the time of year when everyone
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  is going, you know, everyone's going to be three games better than the
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  projections and everyone you know, this is this team is closer than any ever
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  before and hard, hard, you know what, it has never been.
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  It's like watching the Red, White and Boom fireworks for every single year they
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  wrap up and it's you know what, it's the best year ever. It's
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  like Son of a Gun. Fifty third year in a row. That's quite
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  quite a streak. You know, this is this is happy chat time.
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  This is you know, spring training. Everyone's in the best shape of their
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  lives. Everyone's in you know, everyone's going to be exceed the expectations.
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  Denzil Burke will give it to you pretty straight. And you know, the
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  the example that we have always used was talking to him at the Cotton Bowl
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  last year at one of the it was probably the preseason the pregame, you
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  know, interview whatever, and asking him about Jeremiah Smith, and you know,
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  are you looking forward to going against Jeremiah Smith in practice? And he's
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  kind of like, yeah, I mean I don't know, we'll see,
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  Like he's just he hasn't done anything yet, hasn't shown up. And then
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  like three or four practices into Spring Bowl we get a chance to talk to
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  him again, he's like, oh no, that dude's legit like it was.
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  It was. When he says something, it really means something. So
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  you know, they they don't come to us for approval on who but on
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  who they bring to these things. But if if they ask for input,
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  we will happily tell them. Denzel Burke, and I will not I'm not
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  gonna lie. We were very happy to see his name list for this week.
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  Well, yeah, and I was not the only person to suggest,
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  Hey, yes, why don't you sen Denzel Burke. And as I'm putting
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  together a list of questions that I want to ask the players, you can
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  ask jack say like, hey, how's can youanna Jackson doing it? And
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  he's gonna say he's doing great. He's doing yeah great. Right. The
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  only person you can ask of this and get an answer, the real answer
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  that is truthful and not just player speaker coach speak, is Denzel Burke.
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  Hey, how's Calvin Simpson hunting? Well, you know he's got pick it
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  up some you know, he's not quite doing this in the film room like
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  he will tell you things like that. And so I'm not going to spend
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  the entire thirty minutes with Denzel Burke, but I think you might learn more
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  from him over those thirty minutes than you might than you had learned from jack
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  Sorry to Mecca Buka though a Mecca is also really good and he's a pretty
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  open guy too. Yeah, and no one is meaning to suggest that things
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  are not going great with Jackson. But it's just you. You know,
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  you can ask a question. There are a lot of times when people ask
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  Bau, why didn't you ask about this? It's like, well, I
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  can tell you what the answer would be, So I'm gonna ask a question
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  that I can't tell you in advance what the answer is going to be.
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  So yeah, and Denzel Burke is going to be forty five minutes of not
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  knowing what the answer is going to be. But I'm really looking forward to
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  it. Kevin Noon says, don't touch my stuff. Yes, Kevin,
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  Kevin. We were sharing a room with Kevin, but he is not not
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  here right now. Wing Man Ted, did you find a wild WiFi in
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  the wild? Yeah, we are the first of all. Plus one on
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  the thumbnail there of a very very hungover Rob Gronkowski with Jess Forboda. I
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  don't know how I was recruiting visit a while back. The wi fi here
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  is. I keep looking at the thing, bouncing back and forth between one
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  and two of the little you know dots in the circle. So we are
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  at the mercy of the hotel WiFi. So tomorrow will be at the mercy
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  of the Lucas Oil WiFi. Yeah, Iffy but so yeah, we'll see,
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  we'll see how that goes. Boy, we've got a lot of really
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  good question here. Write them down. Yeah, well, I don't worry,
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  I'm starring him. We'll get we'll get through a bunch of these.
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  But yeah, but there's some really good one. Sorry, we're gonna you
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  know, we're gonna skip right ahead to the uh, skip right ahead to
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  some of these listener questions. Uh, Christina is welcome to any fellows.
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  Hope the traffic restrictions from this weekends you first conference are all lifted. Yes,
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  that is all lifted. We we just went walked down and had dinner
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  at a hotel that had a sign advertising that. But yes, that is
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  as far as we can tell, that is. That is all done,
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  no traffic restrictions. I did just get back from a weekend in Toronto,
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  and I can assure you no matter how bad the traffic in Indianapolis is,
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  it will be nothing. It will hold not even hold the candle too well,
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  why would you say that, I don't You don't need to try to
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  jinx us on the way back right. This is your own private page.
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  I don't need it. Odysseus says, I've met Tom was annoying Kevin and
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  Tony with the triple option and the Navy in the video game. We did
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  not We we thought about it and ended up deciding not to bring a video
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  game system because it got work to do. We've got work to do and
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  it's gonna be it. Will you know that? Will I recognize I can
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  find fault in myself that if that is here, I will be tempted to
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  do it, and then I will not do the work that I'm here to
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  do. Plus, I don't need you guys breaking back controllers, which is
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  probably a real danger. Here's one. There's been several variations of this.
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  Mellows has asked coach David thinks justin Fry's recruiting strategies effective should have cast a
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  wider net with offers. This is one where there are certain ways you can
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  ask recruiting questions that are a little bit It's coaches and players are limited in
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  what they can say about They can't talk at all about specific players. So
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  if you said, hey, how do you think you're doing with David Sanders,
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  even if the answer was yes, he is secretly committed, then they
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  can't talk about him until the letter of intent is signed. We ran into
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  this early signing day last year where Edward Houston's letter of intent was not in.
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  So we're having a Ryan Day press conference and he keeps looking into the
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  back of the room like is it in yet? Can I talk about him?
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  And the answer is no, no, no, And then it was
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  yes. So you know, you can't ask specific questions, and this is
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  a you know, you're in the middle of a recruiting cycle right now,
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  so this is one where you can you know, the answer is going to
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  be, well, you know, you've got to keep evaluating these things,
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  like you can kind of I can kind of tell you what he's gonna say
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  about that. But you know, we have we have asked plenty of times.
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  I asked him last year on during one of the pre Bowl media things
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  when he was talking about, you know, evaluating coaching staff changes for the
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  following year. I asked him, you know what kind of criteria you're using,
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  and you can you can get kind of a straight answer on that.
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  Yeah. And it's not just justin Field or just justin Fry. If Brian
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  Day wants to change something about his recruiting strategy, he has the power to
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  be like let's offer some more. So I don't think it's entirely on Fry,
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  even though you do empower your coaches. But if you see a problem,
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  go fix it, you know, go and help out. Get Chip
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  Kelly in there. And Chip Kelly, from my understanding, he's been doing
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  quite a bit with the offensive line as well as you would expect. But
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  I think there's a ton of pressure on Justin Fry this year, this team,
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  this recruiting class, next year's recruiting class, with so many good Ohioans,
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  and the way things are going right now, it might things can fall
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  apart there. So if you can get David Sanders, then it almost you
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  get some credit and you can not worry as much about next year. But
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  I still think you have to perform this year. David Sanders isn't going to
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  solve all of your issues, even with a commitment and signing him. You
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  still have to put the product on the field. And as I keep saying,
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  Ryan Day, Chiff Kelly will know whether or not Justin Fry is doing
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  a good job this year regardless of how they play, because they may be
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  playing good, playing well in spite of him, you know, or they
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  may be playing poorly, but love. They love what he's doing. So
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  it's more than just David Sanders and on field results, like they're gonna have
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  much better idea obviously, but I think this is a very very very big
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  year for it. Yeah, no, no question. And it's not like
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  the offensive line class has nobody. They have a borderline five star tackle in
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  the class already in Carter Low. So you know, I think there are
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  a lot of eggs being put in the David Sanders basket, certainly by Ohio
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  State fans and maybe by the Ohio State program itself. And you know,
• 20:17
  I think there's I think that has been a point of emphasis within the Ohio
• 20:21
  State program. I would say, yeah, yeah. And the number of
• 20:25
  offers. I mean, I know there's issues with maybe Tony Alfred not offering
• 20:29
  enough people, and then when once Carlos Slacklin comes in, like I was
• 20:32
  like, why is he offering so many people? And it's like, well,
• 20:33
  he's just offering a normal amount of running backs. Yeah. So I
• 20:37
  think a wider net is good when you're not catching what the what the smaller
• 20:45
  now? I mean, yeah, this this is a fishing analogy town.
• 20:47
  Yes, you know, so you've got to literally becoming a fisher of men
• 20:52
  perfect. I read that somewhere next up from Kyle Dobs cost the Miller's son
• 20:57
  land and reclassified. Yet what's the over on on him getting thirty touchdowns?
• 21:02
  Now? He is what a sixth grader? Yeah? I think he's like
• 21:04
  eleven years old, Yeah, something like that. So I don't know what
• 21:07
  that year is. What is that twenty thirty one? I believe, yes,
• 21:11
  so yeah, that's uh, you know, let's see, he got
• 21:15
  an offer from I saw he got an offer from yes, someone was you
• 21:18
  okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. So yeah, so
• 21:21
  that's you know, is that a committable offer. I'm going to guess the
• 21:23
  answer is probably not. But you know, for a twenty thirty one,
• 21:26
  Like what is Tom Herman care? Tom Herman's either going to be fired or
• 21:30
  working at a bigger school. By then, hey, get in early,
• 21:33
  you know, FAU maybe in the SEC. By then, crazier things have
• 21:37
  happened. You know what, We're gonna just skip since we're talking about schools
• 21:40
  from the South, let's skip right down to Addison Book, who says,
• 21:44
  geigographically wise but foolish not to consider Flora State in the big ten. I'm
• 21:48
  not sure I really buy that. I think that if Flora State was,
• 21:52
  you know, the the answer from the Big ten or the you know,
• 21:56
  the leaks to Brett McMurphy last week, we're basically, well, well,
• 22:00
  you know, we're not going to really be interested if the ACC is still
• 22:03
  an ongoing concern, which is, you know, that's one way to frame
• 22:07
  the truth if you were you know, that's also not something that is a
• 22:12
  binding statement. It was a leak anonymously to Brent McMurphy. I don't.
• 22:18
  I think. I still think that there is a better than fifty to fifty
• 22:22
  chance that within five years, and this could very well be next year,
• 22:26
  if the ESPN opposite of the ACC's TV deal, which is a possibility in
• 22:32
  February. In February, that opens up the floodgates for the whole ACC to
• 22:37
  change. Yeah. Absolutely, And I think it also opens up the possibility
• 22:44
  that the ACC stays together because of doing that, because you can change the
• 22:48
  deal and make it more lucrative for the schools who are trying to leave.
• 22:51
  But I did not understand that the McMurphy thing, the link they're saying that
• 22:56
  Florida State and South Carolina bring nothing to the big ten at Floridata and Clemson.
• 23:02
  Yeah, those markets when you know they just went out west and got
• 23:07
  Seattle and Portland essentially at half price. Yes, but I think the Southeast
• 23:12
  is a much more lucrative market. So I didn't understand how it would not
• 23:18
  help them or bring in It's a footprint, it's you know, it's the
• 23:21
  recruiting base. And there's so many reasons to do that, and the the
• 23:26
  main reason not to is the AAU stuff. When this is these are still
• 23:30
  college programs, but this is not collegial. Correct, well, this is
• 23:34
  not. This is much less about all the other stuff and much more about
• 23:41
  you know, in some ways, college football is becoming closer tied to college
• 23:44
  where you you know, you may end up with employee and employer employee relationship
• 23:48
  or something like that at some point. In other ways, a lot of
• 23:51
  the stuff that we talked about five years ago in terms of conferences, in
• 23:56
  terms of AAU membership and all that kind of stuff, geograph Fit Scotaway in
• 24:00
  New Jersey and Westwood, California are now in the same conference. I think
• 24:07
  Geographic Fit is no longer a doesn't exist unless they at Hawaii or Bayern,
• 24:11
  Munich. I don't think the Big Ten is going to get much more far
• 24:14
  University. You know, let's a good transition here to our buddy fort Wayne
• 24:18
  Buckeye super Chat. Tom, you need to return that shirt as I don't
• 24:21
  see a Big Ten logo on it. If you know, you know,
• 24:23
  interested to hear from Signetti this week? Yeah, I like that dude.
• 24:26
  Well, yeah, he's got a ton of energy. I think one of
• 24:30
  my favorite quotes from the coaches when somebody asked him, you know, he
• 24:33
  told somebody to google me, Like, if you don't know who I am,
• 24:36
  google me. I think if people just start using that, provided there's
• 24:41
  something worth googling, if it's just like a criminal record. But don't don't
• 24:45
  don't say google me. Whatever you do, don't google me. But I
• 24:48
  think that's a that's a pretty good quote there. You said that just enough
• 24:52
  time that your phone would like to know? Yes, uh, the super
• 24:57
  chat from having our art planning my day around the release of the Connor Stallion's
• 25:02
  documentary documentary cannot wait. Lol. So let's see because the oh, I
• 25:07
  didn't even think about that. I'm really not sure if he didn't think about
• 25:12
  it, I did not. I'm not sure which way it's funnier. I
• 25:15
  think you not thinking about it because this, Yeah, so the Connor Stallion's
• 25:22
  documentary that came out, that got leaked today or got reported today. Netflix
• 25:26
  releasing a documentary I think on August twenty ninth, I believe, right before
• 25:30
  the start of the season. Here's what I'm going to say. There have
• 25:33
  not been a lot of details reported, at least as far as I haven't
• 25:36
  looked in several hours. But the fact that it is being promoted with you
• 25:41
  know, and this is not an exact quote, but you know, Connor
• 25:44
  Stallion shares his side of the story of this. To me feels like Connor
• 25:49
  Stallion's probably had many choices of people. Documentarians talked about this story. This
• 25:55
  was the biggest story in college football last year. There's still gonna be a
• 25:57
  tremendous amount of interest around it at some point as allegations come out, and
• 26:02
  there's gonna be another wave of interest in this thing. So this is something
• 26:06
  that he probably had multiple offers. Nothing about Connor Stallions that we have seen
• 26:14
  or heard or read or anything else indicates he is interested in throwing Michigan under
• 26:18
  the bus in any way. So if this is Connor Stallions, I'm not
• 26:22
  saying that he's gonna have editorial control of the documentary, but I think this
• 26:26
  is this is probably being pitched to him as we want to tell your story,
• 26:32
  and that's the way they're marketing it, which makes me think that this
• 26:36
  is going to be not necessarily one that Ohio State fans are going to be
• 26:41
  laughing and pointing the whole time like this is you know, you can you
• 26:45
  can tell his story in a way that Ohio State fans. You know,
• 26:52
  There's there's lots of areas in life, Tony where you're kind of getting the
• 26:56
  old Lionel huts. There's the truth and the truth, and you're gonna,
• 27:02
  you know, you get someone's version of the truth. And I feel like
• 27:04
  this is going to be Connor Stallion's version of the truth. Which how much
• 27:08
  does that bear a resemblance to what's in the notice of allegations from the NCAA
• 27:15
  when it comes out, Well, I don't know. We have to see
• 27:18
  both of them to find out. A great American once said, it's not
• 27:21
  a lie if you believe if you believe it, So I've been I've mentioned
• 27:26
  this before I've been watching a lot of old unsolved mysteries. I can say
• 27:30
  the old ones, they're all old rewatching the series are arguably solved. Now
• 27:36
  we're still unsolved. Here's the thing. There are so many these that I've
• 27:38
  seen now, and these are from like nineteen ninety two to like nineteen ninety
• 27:42
  eight or whatever, eighty ninety ninety six, whatever. But it'll be like
• 27:48
  a wife goes missing and they're interviewing the husband and he's like, I just
• 27:49
  want her to come home. You know, the police have been to me.
• 27:53
  I've since since you since you're not talking about anyone specific, and I
• 27:56
  can't. I can't therefore libel anyone. Let me just say he probably did
• 28:00
  it well. And the thing is, all of these get updated. So
• 28:03
  you've got the husband saying, I just want her to come home. I
• 28:06
  don't you know the last last time I saw her, you know, I
• 28:10
  made her dinner and I told her how much I loved her. And then
• 28:12
  that clip goes off, and then the update comes on and it's like he
• 28:15
  was tried in twenty eleven, convicted of murdering his wife. They found her
• 28:18
  in the backyard. That sort of thing. This is kind of not exactly
• 28:22
  like Condor Stallion's in the Netflix thing. But there's gonna be one version of
• 28:26
  the truth, and it's gonna be cound of Stallion's version of the truth.
• 28:30
  And I don't think that's a real version that we're gonna get. No,
• 28:33
  I think that that's probably it will be interesting, certainly, I think we
• 28:37
  will probably learn some things. I don't think that that's going to be quite
• 28:41
  as you know, cast quite as much light on the story as you might
• 28:47
  expect, especially in the direction that fans are looking it was. Certainly,
• 28:49
  I think it's gonna leave everybody frustrated in terms of the Ohio State fans wanting
• 28:53
  more as this whole thing has kind of done the entire process. That's a
• 28:57
  good question. That is a good question from Christopher's sours saying Kee will never
• 29:00
  let the Big ten get a foothold in the SEC. Here's the thing.
• 29:04
  It has been pretty widely reported, and you know, you never know,
• 29:11
  but you've already got South Carolina in South Carolina, you already have Florida in
• 29:15
  Florida. Do you need to add Florida State and Clemson and divide that pie
• 29:22
  inother couple of ways. I think that you know, there has been some
• 29:26
  reporting and some you know, rumor mongering that Clemson is really specifically focused on
• 29:30
  the Big Ten, which I get it, and I think that aligns with
• 29:36
  the fact that you're not you know, the SEC probably is not as interested.
• 29:41
  But beyond just you know, hey, this guy on Twitter says there
• 29:45
  has been a lot of reporting that Clemson is looking at AAU membership, which
• 29:51
  is you know, has broadly and I know I just said that the conversation
• 29:53
  around this stuff has kind of changed. It's important though, but if you
• 29:59
  know, if it's like, well, you know, we don't need you
• 30:02
  to be you know whatever to be a member of this club, but you
• 30:06
  know, if the club wants you to get a jack, you know,
• 30:08
  to to come in a jacket, and you're there at the store shopping for
• 30:11
  a jacket, like that tells me like, yeah, you might have some
• 30:15
  thoughts about going to this club because you don't need you don't need sleeps to
• 30:18
  be in the SEC. Academically, you can you can come in there in
• 30:22
  a tank top and that's fine. But the Big Ten decision makers are the
• 30:27
  presidents. This is not done at the head coach voting or the athletic director
• 30:33
  voting. This has made at the university president you know level. So you
• 30:37
  know if Clemson and Florida State, and I think Florida State may have been
• 30:40
  sort of at least talking about AAU mess T. Yes, you see,
• 30:44
  I've got instead of them, but they've been they've been attempting to get that
• 30:47
  as well. So that's you know, I think all of that kind of
• 30:51
  points me to more likely to end up in the Big Ten than the SEC.
• 30:56
  It's you know, this is none of this is guaranteed. And you
• 31:00
  could tell me that one year from now we're sitting here in Indianapolis and Florida
• 31:04
  State. You know, news breaks that Florida State, Florida State and clems
• 31:07
  and not that they're here, but you know, news has broken and we're
• 31:11
  talking about the fact that they're joining. Or you can tell me it's five
• 31:14
  years from now or ten years from now. I think any of those time
• 31:18
  frames, you know, twelve, eighteen months from now, it's more likely
• 31:22
  that the Big that Florida State and Clemson are members of the Big Ten eighteen
• 31:25
  months from now at least you know, on the way to membership, then
• 31:29
  that they end up in the SEC. I just I think the SEC is
• 31:33
  probably looking at other places. I mean, and there was Addison who has
• 31:37
  been talking about this. A bunch has a UNC logo for an avatar,
• 31:41
  And you know, I understand the Big Ten wants a Tar Tar heels and
• 31:45
  a jealous grab with the SEC. That's you know, I think UNC is
• 31:48
  a school that will probably have multiple suitors. Virginia is probably a school that
• 31:52
  will have multiple suitors. Georgia Tech, that's probably just if the Big Ten
• 31:56
  wants them, the Big Ten can have them. But you know, and
• 31:57
  then what's really interesting is a school like Duke, which is academically sure,
• 32:02
  but you know, it does not really fit with the land Grant tradition of
• 32:07
  the Big Ten and is less of a football and more of a basketball program.
• 32:09
  But you know, if you don't get UNC, do you get Due,
• 32:13
  because I you know, Duke is not a great cultural fit in the
• 32:15
  SEC probably, so you know, and then does UNC and Duke want to
• 32:19
  stay together? Which and is that an option? And it's just there's so
• 32:22
  many different moving parts here, it's hard to really forecast. But you know,
• 32:24
  based on everything I've seen, everything I've heard, it just feels like
• 32:29
  Florida Satan Clems and if they go somewhere, it would be more likely to
• 32:34
  be the Big ten than anywhere else. I got two thoughts in terms of
• 32:38
  the footprint or not needing the SEC, not needing the South Carolina market from
• 32:44
  clubs because they already have it in a Florida. Is there more value to
• 32:47
  keeping a Big ten out than doubling up in the market, you know,
• 32:50
  I think that's the point. Yeah, well yeah, oh I get it.
• 32:52
  Yeah you don't. You don't want to allow that in And so like,
• 32:54
  yeah, well we'll go ahead and take that sacrifice, make that sacrifice
• 33:00
  and double up just to keep the Big ten out. I but they've not
• 33:02
  ever talked in that fashion, the SEC hasn't. And the other thought with
• 33:07
  the AAU thing, it's kind of like the Big ten. Yeah, they'd
• 33:10
  love it. It's like a country club that they have black suit you know,
• 33:15
  suit jackets in the closet that you can borrow, Like, but Nebraska
• 33:20
  took one home and they just keep bringing wearing the same one when they come
• 33:22
  back because they were in the AU. But they're no longer there. So
• 33:27
  it's like, yeah, you know, it'd be great, but we've got
• 33:30
  we've got jackets in the clauset that you can use if you're not quite if
• 33:32
  you don't have your own, you've got your own. Yeah, we've got
• 33:35
  you covered. Yeah. Super chat from a long time wonderful friend at the
• 33:39
  program, Omar Austin. Always great to see Omar in the chat and of
• 33:43
  course atle dot com. Omar says, hello, gents, will we get
• 33:45
  a food challenge out of any of you over the next few days. We
• 33:49
  have not talked about that. That's a you know, we we we normally
• 33:54
  have at least had a conversation about it. This is this is a week
• 33:59
  when we're jen early going, this is this is one of the busiest weeks
• 34:01
  of the year for us, and we're not We would probably if we were
• 34:07
  gonna do it, we would probably do have done it tonight because I know
• 34:09
  there's a lot of people out at dinner right now doing that. You know,
• 34:13
  like this is Ohio State is tomorrow. Ohio State is tomorrow. So
• 34:17
  yeah, I mean, in if we're gonna do it, you do it
• 34:20
  after Ohio State because Michigan isn't until Thursday. But we've got so much stuff
• 34:24
  we're doing after State that we can't waste it eating pickles. Well, and
• 34:29
  and there's also there's also a lot of interesting stuff coming up on Wednesday.
• 34:34
  I read through the list of the all the different teams were here in which
• 34:37
  day they're here, I mean every day month. Tuesday is kind of the
• 34:38
  day where it's like, eh, I mean, there's a Higo State in
• 34:40
  a bunch of like it's fine, like it's interesting, interesting to talk to
• 34:44
  Luke Fickle tomorrow. But there's a lot of teams that there's not gonna be
• 34:45
  a ton of interest in Ohio State is definitely gonna to carry the carry the
• 34:49
  day interest wise. But yeah, to Wednesday, Thursday, there's so many
• 34:52
  interesting teams to talk to and interesting storylines and ball coverage. There are days
• 34:59
  where all of the interviews are done by like ten thirty, So you've got
• 35:02
  the you've got you've got time after that to to work, and then your
• 35:07
  day is free after that. So then you can plan your your eating uh
• 35:10
  contests, and your your things like that, and and you can walk to
• 35:15
  the store and go get two jars of pickles for somebody to eat. All
• 35:19
  things that have actually happened. Yes, Uh, what a fascinating life we
• 35:22
  all lead, Odysseus says Royal rumble, which coach comes out on top.
• 35:27
  This is the easiest question, Okay, I have it's not no, no,
• 35:31
  okay, there is a coach in the Big ten who was a I
• 35:37
  believe four time state wrestling champion in state of Ohio. Right. But the
• 35:40
  thing is time that you're not thinking about with Royal rumble stuff. People team
• 35:45
  up to get the best guys out. They try. So that's why you
• 35:51
  know Brett Bielama maybe the biggest guy, he's not gonna I think the sleeper
• 35:55
  for one, PJ. Flack, He's gonna be fine. Yeah, he's
• 36:00
  also you know, you're not You're not worried about him, You're not focused
• 36:04
  on him. He's gonna be like one of the last three or four guys
• 36:07
  remaining, just because you see through him. Also, sometimes guys will like
• 36:12
  fall out of the ring but not go over the top, and then they'll
• 36:14
  just stay out of the ring. I can see him doing that and then
• 36:17
  like there's two two guys left and he comes back in and tries to throw
• 36:22
  them both over. So not I'm just say an he's shady. I'm just
• 36:24
  saying I could see him doing that. He's a scrapper, he's gonna do
• 36:27
  what it takes. Greg sheiana also watch out, he's from New Jersey,
• 36:30
  so you know he's dirty. He is from New Jersey rather famously, Yes,
• 36:35
  uh we went Inten said, I'd love for someone to ask coaches have
• 36:37
  to think that with Oregon entering the Big Ten, if schools in the Big
• 36:39
  Ten will move towards contracts with the didas or under armoored to slightly reduce organs
• 36:43
  NAL funds. I don't think when you look at the scope of Nike's brand
• 36:51
  and Nike's and portfolio, the college contracts are a relatively small percentage of that.
• 36:59
  And and you also have to remember Ohio State, Michigan, whoever has
• 37:05
  an existing contract right now, and their contract with them runs for some number
• 37:09
  of additional years. And so by the time you got rid of you know,
• 37:15
  we got rid of that contract for even that small amount of bottom line
• 37:19
  difference to kick in, that's you know, you're multiple years down the line.
• 37:23
  And you know, the whole point of the film Night Nil Reporting is
• 37:30
  Hey, he's eighty whatever years old, and you know he wants to see
• 37:36
  a title before, you know, while he's still around to see it.
• 37:38
  So you know, making a change that might impact you five eight years down
• 37:44
  the line in some small way. It may kind of, you know,
• 37:47
  be besides the point. And I'm not sure if I said it on the
• 37:52
  show or whatever. Others. We'll be talking to somebody or we could talk
• 37:55
  to somebody on Wednesday who has dealt with this first hand. That's Rick new
• 37:59
  Heisel, and we're talking with Well, have an opportunity to talk with the
• 38:01
  CBS guys on Wednesday. But he was I heard him telling the story.
• 38:07
  It was when he was maybe with UCLA or Colorado, I think it was
• 38:09
  u C l A, but recruiting against Oregon at the time. And he's
• 38:15
  very good friends with no the Nike guy, Phil Knight. Sorry, very
• 38:21
  good friends with Phil Knight, has been forever, was friends with him when
• 38:24
  he was the UCLA head coach, and so he was recruiting against Oregon for
• 38:29
  somebody, but like Oregon won out because of Phil Knight, and he's like,
• 38:35
  Phil, I don't feel great about wearing your logo on our jerseys and
• 38:37
  advertising for you while you're going and working for Oregon. And Phil Knight was
• 38:42
  basically like, yeah, it's not It's not tough, isn't it. Basically
• 38:49
  basically the answer. And I think, you know, I think it's easy
• 38:52
  for you know, forty five year olds to roll their eyes at the kids
• 38:55
  today who care about whether it's the Nike swoosh or the Jumpman logo or whatever
• 39:01
  on their stuff. But there are people for whom that does move the needle.
• 39:07
  And so, you know, and frankly, from an Ohio State perspective,
• 39:10
  it's either that that's going to move the needle or it's which makes more
• 39:14
  money. And that's just you know, there's a lot of factors that are
• 39:16
  gonna cut you know, be come into play before you get down to well,
• 39:20
  this might slightly decrease film nights net worth, which you're not going to
• 39:24
  decrease it by enough that that's worth probably worth the trade off there. Here's
• 39:30
  here's one from Christopher so hours everybody is sleeping on Rutgers. They have an
• 39:32
  easy schedule and if Michigan or Penn State lose four games, they could sneak
• 39:36
  into the playoffs. You had me right. Until they can sneak into the
• 39:38
  playoffs, their schedule is very easy. They are going to be really good.
• 39:44
  Their defense is going to be legit this year. Like I mean,
• 39:46
  like potentially their defense has kind of gone from pretty okay to better to like
• 39:55
  this year could be like legit, legit good. And you've got you've just
• 40:00
  got Athan Kelly ak manas who's the former Minnesota quarterback, who's fine, better
• 40:05
  than Gavin Wimson, I mean, bad bad last year. I will just
• 40:09
  read through the Rutgers schedule. Howard, that's a win Akron, that's a
• 40:15
  win off week at Virginia Tech. I mean that's winnable. Washington at home
• 40:22
  at Nebraska, home for Wisconsin, home for UCLA at usc home for Minnesota
• 40:25
  at Maryland, home for Illinois at Michigan State. I mean you have I'm
• 40:30
  looking, I'm just playing. What's the game that? Yeah? I think
• 40:35
  I don't think there's a game that's an automatic loss on there. They missed
• 40:38
  the top five teams in the Big Ten. They miss Ohio State, Oregon,
• 40:42
  Michigan, Penn State, and Iowa. That's pretty good. And you've
• 40:45
  got you know, Washington at home, got Wisconsin at home. You've got
• 40:51
  there are no games on there that I say zero chance. You know,
• 40:54
  there might not be a bigger beneficiary this year of getting out of the Big
• 41:00
  Ten East. So yeah, then wretgers because you got Michigan, Ohio State,
• 41:04
  Penn State off your schedule, and you've got you got a bunch of
• 41:07
  you know, there are games that are going to lose. They're not They're
• 41:09
  not going ten and two, but they could go eight and four. They're
• 41:14
  their toughest game. And I have them going six and six. And this
• 41:15
  is when I did this, like two months ago, just randomly, first
• 41:20
  read like their toughest game possibly is at USC Like that's the the one you
• 41:23
  look at. Is that the Pick six previews, Right, Brett has them
• 41:29
  number ten in the Big Ten, number thirty nine overall in the Power five.
• 41:31
  So does he have a record? Has a record? But you know,
• 41:36
  I mean he he you know, I will read you his outlook and
• 41:38
  this is the this is the Pick six previews bylaws. Yes, uh,
• 41:43
  yes, well I can. I can read it with all the intonation of
• 41:45
  the Big Ten by laws if you'd like. I'm going to try and have
• 41:49
  Brett on the on the show. I've been even emailing back and forth with
• 41:52
  him a little bit. He'll probably be on the show in the coming weeks.
• 41:53
  But his what he says for outlook is Shiano did it again for the
• 41:57
  second time he inherited a broken program and built them into the twenty twenty four
• 42:00
  squad features a veteran defense that could push into the top twenty five, a
• 42:04
  tough offensive line in the workhorse running back that would Kyle Mnungai past game needs
• 42:07
  work, but otherwise they have the Big Ten formula. Rutgers won the Big
• 42:10
  Ten schedule a lottery this year, is the only team in the league to
• 42:13
  avoid all top five teams. This is their best shot to get a program
• 42:17
  best for Big Ten Conference wins. Now, four Big Ten Conference wins would
• 42:22
  get you four plus Howard plus Akron, and then you know Virginia Tech.
• 42:27
  You want to tell me Virginia Tech's not beatable on the road, Yeah,
• 42:30
  I've got them winning four into Big Ten. Yeah, that's Wisconsin, Ucla,
• 42:34
  Minnesota, and Illinois. All of those are at home. Yeah.
• 42:37
  If you tell me they beat with Washington at home, that's not going to
• 42:38
  shock, right, you can you can get to six and six without winning
• 42:42
  on the road. Yeah, and all the home games are winnable. So
• 42:45
  yeah, I think I think Rutgers is someone else on our board at buckey
• 42:49
  Huddle dot Com. The other board presented by jefferyby Steak House earlier. Today,
• 42:52
  you know Big Ten risers, like, which teams do you see as
• 42:55
  potentially like improved and better records this year? Rutgers is right at the top
• 43:00
  of the list for me because it just it just feels like this is going
• 43:04
  to be you know, Greg Ciano has gotten them from you know, the
• 43:07
  surface of the moon, which is where they were in twenty nineteen. That
• 43:10
  was the twenty nineteen Rutgers team is probably the worst Big Ten team I have
• 43:15
  seen in person, probably. I mean, that was that was so bad.
• 43:21
  That was the year that I picked Ohio State to beat them two hundred
• 43:23
  and twenty two to nothing, because it was like, there's no point to
• 43:27
  like, this is going to be Georgia Tech Cumberland. Twenty twenty. Giano
• 43:30
  came back. They had that game where they were just kind of a pain
• 43:34
  in the butt and they just had some trick plays in the second half and
• 43:36
  just kind of hung around Ohio State just long enough. That was like,
• 43:38
  all right, yeah, okay, they're okay. They made a bowl game.
• 43:42
  One. They didn't just make a bowl game, they won a bowl
• 43:44
  game. Last year they beat Miami and the Pinstripe Bowl last year. That's
• 43:47
  a program that is trending in the right direction. I am fascinated to talk
• 43:52
  to as many people around Wreckers as I can. What does this guy know
• 43:55
  that no one else on earth knows? Because no one else has ever been
• 43:59
  able to do this and he can just he just this is now twice.
• 44:01
  He's just worked the same magic and just brought them back. And when you
• 44:05
  do talk to them, make sure you talk with your hands, understand it.
• 44:08
  But in terms of up and coming or like you see that when I
• 44:12
  did this two months ago, is that Yeah, Nebraska ten to two,
• 44:15
  seven to two and a big ten like we can play the Nebraska seven schedule
• 44:20
  game at some point. I have I did have them beating Iowa at the
• 44:23
  end of the season in Iowa, which I think is that's that's vicious,
• 44:28
  right, But the rest of that schedule, it's not outrageous, it's not
• 44:31
  they You know, you would rather have Ohio State on the road because you're
• 44:35
  not likely to beat them at home anyway. Yeah, don't get to waste
• 44:37
  a home right exactly? Yeah? All right? Uh Stephen, Jerry wants
• 44:43
  to know did we bring noon with us Kevin, Ah, Yes, we
• 44:47
  did. We'd see well well done see because his name is Kevin too and
• 44:52
  there was a movie. Anyway, Yes, we did. We did bring
• 44:54
  Kevin Kevin is we we did. We do not need need to run the
• 44:59
  three man We've tonight. We will probably have Kevin on a live show,
• 45:02
  but yes he will. We will have him with us a little later on
• 45:05
  the week, but yes he is. He is in Indianapolis. We are
• 45:07
  looking forward to spending the week with him. This is you know, we
• 45:10
  talk a lot, you sure do, but we we talk a lot on
• 45:15
  these shows. I mean, I mean off the air, we talk a
• 45:17
  lot. But this is such a weird job where we see each other non
• 45:22
  stop during the season and then we'll go like a month and a half without
• 45:25
  seeing each other. It was like, its great, we just we just
• 45:30
  went out and had dinner like a month ago. It's just like yeah,
• 45:32
  so yeah, it just it's it is nice to get back indie football season
• 45:36
  for any number of reasons, most especially the football super tech from Omar Austin.
• 45:40
  How about you just put x lax and a Hershey rapper and give it
• 45:43
  to Kevin because we're all in the same room. That's that's why we you
• 45:46
  know, the only reason, the only yes, just to be clear,
• 45:52
  right and another super jet uh oh Omar wants to know when Tony is gonna
• 45:57
  stop ducking him on NCAA twenty five. Don't be scar scared. Well,
• 46:02
  here's the thing. I don't even know how to play online, like to
• 46:06
  like is that on the internet? Now? Is this me? Like you
• 46:10
  know, being super old? I would play anybody online. The thing is
• 46:15
  I We've got a thread on the Buckehuadal message board to present it by Jeffrey
• 46:20
  re Steakhouse about all of these different we've got about the video game, and
• 46:25
  there are people talking about how I'm only I've only been practicing, like the
• 46:30
  game has been out for like a week now. All you do is practice
• 46:32
  like I've got no shot, like talking about how you get you just gotta
• 46:36
  flick this and you dropped down your change your light, change your linebacker to
• 46:38
  you your corner when you see the receiver going into slots. I'm just trying
• 46:43
  to throw the ball and tackle the ball. I'm not I'm not built for
• 46:45
  this. I so as long as as long as Omar, as long as
• 46:49
  you are not built for this, we'll be fine. If it's twenty eight
• 46:53
  nothing and the first quarter and I have not yet been able to throw a
• 46:58
  pass. Let alone can play the past, because that can happen. You
• 47:01
  drop back and you think you've got time. I don't even bring the play
• 47:05
  action. But you got no chance, So don't be a bully. We
• 47:08
  hit a roll back in my college days where twenty one nothing was known as
• 47:13
  a stanky booty and the game was automatically that was over. We're moving on
• 47:16
  with life. There's no point here. Let's see got to go through up.
• 47:22
  Jordan Kapler has one. Do you have a sports moment that you like
• 47:25
  rewatching? For example, there's a shot of the Auburn band during the kicksex,
• 47:29
  and I like focusing on a different person each time to see the reaction.
• 47:31
  I the kick six is a really good one. I don't remember what
• 47:37
  it was. It showed up just on Twitter and it was, you know,
• 47:39
  one of these cuts where it's like, here's the CBS announcers, here's
• 47:43
  the Auburn announcers, here's the Alabama announcers. Is like son of Ita and
• 47:46
  I watched it all the way through three times. How about that? And
• 47:51
  if that shows up tomorrow, I will sit there and I will watch it
• 47:53
  the yeah that that happened. What I do like to do? And I
• 47:57
  don't really have a great answer on that one. I'm sure there are.
• 48:00
  But some of the photos that you've taken, the background stuff, oh yeah,
• 48:04
  you know, like the reactions in the background, or Jim Davidson,
• 48:07
  the late great Jim Davidson, Like the ted Kin punt return in two thousand
• 48:09
  and four. Uh huh, Well you've just got the Michigan quarterbacks on the
• 48:13
  sideline behind him, just super like upset, but try not to be angry
• 48:17
  about it, like just trying, you know, no sell it. The
• 48:23
  background behind the greygoat attempt to dunk. Oh yes, Georgetown where everybody's like
• 48:29
  freaking out. I always think those are interesting things, just the background.
• 48:31
  You see the reactions and they're just frozen and on it. Mm hmm.
• 48:35
  Yeah, that's that's a good one. Just and thinking through other sports moments,
• 48:38
  I mean, just the real like bolt of lightning out of nowhere kind
• 48:42
  of moments. You know. I'm sure fifteen years ago, if you know,
• 48:46
  Twitter had been a bigger thing in two thousand and seven, the end
• 48:50
  of the oh Or Michigan Appalachian State Game would have been like that for a
• 48:53
  lot of people. That's that was. That was a real bolt of lightning.
• 48:57
  Yeah, but also all of the concourses at like Penn State watching that,
• 49:01
  Yeah, yeah, reactions that was like it may have been the biggest
• 49:05
  thing on YouTube at that time back then. I do have one that I
• 49:09
  looked for quite a bit, not quite a bit. I looked for it
• 49:13
  on Twitter and I can't find it. And it's my own video of the
• 49:16
  drunk falling out of the stands. Yes, and J G. Barretts last
• 49:21
  game twenty seventeen senior day. Yes, that against Illinois in an absolute month
• 49:24
  soon. Oh I laugh at that every time. I know it's coming.
• 49:28
  And then fine, and she was drunk, It's fine, Yeah, it
• 49:30
  was. It's just J. T. Barrett carry He was like, they've
• 49:34
  got the illa buck. I don't remember he's carrying the illa bucker up.
• 49:37
  He's running off. He's running off in like high five fans and he's said,
• 49:39
  and you're just watching J. C. Barrett. And then in the
• 49:42
  background is lady right out of the stands and you know the stands are whatever
• 49:45
  six feet taller there, so flat on her back. Yes, yes,
• 49:50
  but she was the water broker fall did not did not break it, did
• 49:54
  not break anything. Probably felt it the next morning. Yeah, I walked
• 49:59
  her up the ramp and she was totally fine. All right. So a
• 50:01
  couple more want to get to. Derek wants to know if the Big Ten
• 50:05
  adds two more schools, does that increase Oregon in Washington's payout and they got
• 50:08
  reducedayd because the Big Ten's a adding two more schools or lower the payoffs for
• 50:10
  the other sixteen schools. That's a probably and it depends well, yeah,
• 50:16
  it's is that in the contracts with Oregon or Washington? We don't know.
• 50:23
  One thing we have found recently is that, boy howdy is it hard to
• 50:28
  get specific details on conference contracts with schools and TV TV network providers and all
• 50:32
  that kind of stuff. And Tony Pettiti Big Ten Commission starts things off tomorrow
• 50:37
  at eleven. We could ask them, ask him this question. There'd be
• 50:39
  no answer. No. Absolutely, Listen, we're not actively looking at anyone.
• 50:45
  We're not. We're very happy with where we are. There's no,
• 50:47
  we don't no way to know that without looking at the contract. But I
• 50:51
  think it is an interesting question. It's like, yeah, you're going to
• 50:52
  bring in somebody new and give them a full share, like nobody said they're
• 50:58
  giving them a full share what Florida State wants out of the ACC so badly.
• 51:05
  And Clemson, you know, Clemson's not exactly disguising their intent either.
• 51:07
  And you're you're talking about going from I don't remember the exact numbers, but
• 51:12
  the ACC TV deal right now is thirty something million, low thirty million Big
• 51:15
  ten TV deal is what seventy five or something like that. You could,
• 51:20
  you know what, guess who's taking forty five million dollars with an enormous smile
• 51:23
  on their face because you know it's going to be more eventually like SMU tak
• 51:28
  no TV money for seven years or literally nothing from the ACC. Yeah,
• 51:31
  and boy, that might not work out great for now. Now as the
• 51:36
  as the world has changed a little bit, I think they're going to be
• 51:38
  top forty ACC this year. They very well could next up from Christopher Sours.
• 51:43
  The four Big ten teams are really wanting the four big big Big ten
• 51:47
  teams are really wanting Notre Dame in Texas, A and M to join Notre
• 51:52
  Dame. Yeah, Notre Dame has been at the top of the Big Ten's
• 51:55
  list for as long as the Big Ten has had a list. You know,
• 51:59
  I think the last person from the Big Ten that said no to Notre
• 52:00
  Dame was Fielding Yost. So it has been a hot minute. But you
• 52:06
  know, Texas A and M. I mean, it's interesting. I don't
• 52:10
  know. I don't know if they're in AAU school and I they could go.
• 52:15
  I mean, I'm sure the theory there is they left the Big twelve
• 52:19
  to go to the SEC to get away from Texas, and then Texas,
• 52:22
  you know, then their ex wife moved in next door, and so you
• 52:25
  know, are you leaving again? Maybe I don't know what they don't know
• 52:30
  what the TV contract is there or whatever the exit fees or I think going
• 52:36
  into Texas is a good idea. I thought there wasn't that long ago that
• 52:40
  Texas was headed for the Big ten. Yeah that was. Yeah, it
• 52:44
  was going to happen, like the Patch twelve botched it or something, and
• 52:46
  then the Big ten is right right there, like that was going to happen.
• 52:50
  What if Texass Texas had gone to the PAC twelve like was originally going
• 52:52
  to happen. Yeah, then then there's then brett Ormark doesn't have a job.
• 52:57
  Right now, and there's you know, everyone's proclaiming Larry Scott the biggest
• 53:01
  genius of all time. So ring men, Ted wants to know where we
• 53:06
  can find the video of a lady falling out of the stands. You didn't
• 53:08
  you just have a link on our board? Didn't you put that video out
• 53:10
  there somewhere? I did. I must have found it. Well, I
• 53:15
  think I was a linked to my my Google video. Okay, yeah,
• 53:19
  it's because I've I've searched on Twitter, you know, I searched my handle
• 53:22
  and you know, all of the various j T Barrett lady falling, like
• 53:25
  all of these different things. And okay, we're going to do a date
• 53:30
  search on this on Twitter when we're done here. Oh yeah, it would
• 53:32
  have been well see, I don't know how quickly I tweeted it. I
• 53:36
  can I can do a date range search. I'm sure we can make this
• 53:38
  happen. H Lisa says. The next few days we're going to find out
• 53:43
  a lot about our conference as a whole. Last week was SAYC time,
• 53:45
  this week it's ours. I can't wait. Yeah, I'm really looking forward.
• 53:47
  There's, as I said off the top of the show, there's so
• 53:51
  many different things that I'm so interested to talk to people about this week.
• 53:53
  Yeah and there, well there'd be something new coming out or you know,
• 53:59
  remember sure what twenty twenty one when Jim Harbas said that Michigan was gonna be
• 54:06
  o higher state ord I try, I try it, or something like that.
• 54:08
  A couple of years ago, when Scott Frost was said, we're not
• 54:13
  into slogan earing. It kind of as a shot at PJ. Flack.
• 54:16
  Yeah. Yeah, like their little rivalry that was going on. And one
• 54:20
  of them is still here this week, there is the other is not into
• 54:23
  slogan earing. So Mozart's ghost says, I was approaching the dog days this
• 54:28
  summer. But it's great to see you both. Yeah, great, it
• 54:30
  is great to be seen. This is great to be here. It is
• 54:34
  man that I feel like I keep saying this, but I cannot think of
• 54:37
  a football season I've been anticipating more than this one, Like I'm always this
• 54:42
  time of year, it's always like I can't wait for football season this year
• 54:45
  though, with all I mean, sure, there's the expectations around the Ohio
• 54:50
  State team, but there's also just sport wide, My goodness, how many
• 54:54
  different like everything is new and exciting this year. You know it's it's exciting
• 55:00
  when this is the worst non conference schedule at Ohio State and in a long
• 55:02
  long time. And that's not really like it doesn't diminish things necessarily, Like
• 55:07
  it's a bad non conference schedule, but it'll be made up for down the
• 55:13
  road, Like if Notre Dame was the season opener this year whatever or game
• 55:16
  two or whatever. Yeah, in South Bend like it was last year.
• 55:20
  That was an awesome place. I recommend anybody to catch a game there if
• 55:22
  you can. Here's a good one from Wah. Sorry, we'll get there.
• 55:28
  And then I gotta look that up from in a minute. But Isaac
• 55:30
  McIntire says in Tom Tom, the first thing I didn't I did, He
• 55:34
  says, I didn't, But I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure he means
• 55:37
  the first thing I did in college football twenty five was put up a two
• 55:40
  twenty two twenty. Yeah, you're all excited for the season. You realize
• 55:45
  it means bold prediction shows are coming back. Be careful what you wish for.
• 55:49
  Uh oh, there you go, and and also returned by the punt
• 55:52
  and kickoff or touchdown in owner of Tony, this is Stephen Cherry says,
• 55:57
  I feel like Oregon is getting too much preseason love. I mean, you're
• 56:00
  gonna find out pretty quick if they're getting a proper amount of preseason love or
• 56:06
  not it is. I think they're gonna be, you know, I think
• 56:08
  they're going to be not just a college football playoff team, but a you
• 56:13
  know, still still playing on New Year's Day and probably maybe even a week
• 56:19
  after that kind of college football playoff tea. I think I think they're legit.
• 56:22
  Are they the second most talented team in the Big Ten? I considerably.
• 56:25
  I don't think you need to put a question market. I mean,
• 56:28
  I who else would you have? That's yeah? I'm wondering is where is
• 56:32
  USC in this? Are they third, fourth, fifth, Michigan? I'm
• 56:37
  I am selling USC style. I'm gonna ask Lincoln Riley, is there an
• 56:43
  option to short you in some way? Because it feels like you've reached the
• 56:47
  point of the roller coaster where it has stopped clicking, and now you're looking
• 56:52
  over the front of the car and it's like this might go poorly. Williams
• 56:55
  coming through that door, calab Williams is not walking through that door. Yeah,
• 56:58
  Kala Blooms did a lot, and yes, the defense should be improvedied,
• 57:02
  but it's I that that feels like that might be a rough transition year
• 57:09
  for USC. And then you know, now you've got all of these big
• 57:14
  ten schools that have recruiting ties out. You know, it's not going to
• 57:15
  make it harder for Ohive State recruit in California. LSU sorry, opens with
• 57:21
  USC, opens with LSU in Las Vegas. Yeah, then they're off and
• 57:25
  then they're at Michigan. Yeah, and honestly, I'm not real high on
• 57:30
  Michigan, but coming east, you're probably losing that. Then you get Wisconsin
• 57:34
  at home. You give them a win at Minnesota, Sure, win Penn
• 57:38
  State at home. You're probably losing at Maryland. Who knows who the wather
• 57:42
  is home for Rutgers. I mean, you could lose that game at Washington.
• 57:45
  You could lose that game home for Nebraska. You can lose that game.
• 57:49
  They're going to find out a lot about the physicality. And I'm just
• 57:52
  looking at just just from Michigan, Wisconsin, Michigan and Rutgers, and I
• 57:57
  don't even know if I need to put Wisconsin in there, because I don't
• 58:00
  know if Luke Fickle's program is there right now, but that's not yet.
• 58:02
  Rutgers in Michigan against USC is just going to be. Well, you've seen
• 58:09
  us physical, You've seen USC play or Utah in the past, and it
• 58:15
  generally kind of goes one way, and at Michigan is going to go probably
• 58:20
  that way. Wisconsin is not. This is not a barrier of verse.
• 58:22
  Even Minnesota is very physical. Yeah, the Penn State is probably going to
• 58:27
  try and beat your face in. Uh, you know, at Minnesota is
• 58:30
  going to be you know, it's early enough in the year that it's probably
• 58:34
  not a weather game, but Minnesota is going to try and beat your face
• 58:36
  in. Minnesota has a real good running back. I am excited to talk
• 58:39
  about him this week as well. So Jordan says, since Kevin isn't here
• 58:45
  to defend himselves to put in a vote for me to switch my hatred of
• 58:47
  Tom to Kevin for old time sake, I feel like I have to abstain
• 58:52
  here. Well, then, says is my decision? Well, I think
• 58:55
  it's it's your decision and maybe we'll throw it open to the to the viewers.
• 59:00
  I think the viewers should abstained as well and just leaves us up to
• 59:01
  me. You know. I assume Kevin's not watching anymore because he only commented
• 59:07
  the one time. So just like Kevin, just punch the clock and then
• 59:10
  go take a nap. No, it sounds like you've already switched your hatred
• 59:15
  to Kevin. The heart ones with the heart ones. I can't tell anybody
• 59:21
  else to do what I'm not willing to do myself. Say to Ohio,
• 59:24
  says Oregon things, they'll come in and own the Big Ten. Ask Penn
• 59:28
  State how that go. I mean, Red State won it the first year,
• 59:30
  they wanted the second second year, but you know they've I don't think
• 59:37
  Oregon's gonna come in and own the Big ten. Ohio State still plays in
• 59:39
  the Big Ten, and you're gonna have Michigan and Penn State and Washington and
• 59:46
  yes USC as well, who are going to have their strong seasons. And
• 59:50
  we'll see what Nebraska turns into. I don't think Oregon's gonna come in and
• 59:53
  own the Big Ten. Like this is this is the time in the cycle
• 59:58
  where every school's fan base gone. We are going to own these suckers.
• 1:00:01
  And you know Missouri Missouri came in, Yeah, Texas A and m came
• 1:00:06
  in and uh won the SEC West, I think at least once. And
• 1:00:10
  you know Missouri came in and won the SEC East a couple of times.
• 1:00:14
  And you know those two teams are kind of both you know, trending in
• 1:00:17
  the right direction. It at the right time and yeah, time, but
• 1:00:21
  you've got to be sustain it. And do you think I know you loved
• 1:00:25
  the the aggressive style of coaching Dan Lanning's mistakes last year against Washington. Do
• 1:00:30
  you think he learned? Does does that change him or does it just mean
• 1:00:36
  like those those things happened, I'm not changing anything I do, despite the
• 1:00:39
  fact that it may have cost them a national championship. Yeah. And and
• 1:00:43
  that's something I'd be really interested in talking to him about your third down,
• 1:00:46
  your fourth, third and sorry, fourth down decision making process. That's something
• 1:00:51
  I've talked to Ryan Day about in the past. It's that's one of my
• 1:00:52
  little personal hobby horses, Just what's your process, Like, you know,
• 1:00:57
  you're going to have times when you know, as a sitting at home,
• 1:01:00
  you're going, why aren't you going for it? And there's probably some data
• 1:01:04
  out there that they've done studies on the wind at the stadium or you know,
• 1:01:07
  hey, you don't know this, but the you know, the three
• 1:01:10
  tech is a little banged up, so we think we can kind of push
• 1:01:14
  him back and get the yard up, you know, in the middle.
• 1:01:16
  Whatever. There's a lot of stuff that goes into those decisions. I'm fascinated
• 1:01:21
  by that whole process. I think that's I think that's really interesting. Frankly,
• 1:01:23
  I'm interested in talking to some of these younger coaches who I bet Ryan
• 1:01:28
  Day played college football, you know, two thousand I bet Dan Lanning played
• 1:01:31
  college football two thousand and eight or whatever. You know, you talk,
• 1:01:37
  you hear, you hear about coaches kind of learning from you know, aggressives
• 1:01:40
  and going for a fourth down and two point provisions from growing up playing Madden
• 1:01:45
  or growing up playing EA sports like that's that's kind of an interesting topic,
• 1:01:49
  guess. And that's a question that I have listed is what I want to
• 1:01:52
  ask about. But I don't know if it's silly or if it's very real,
• 1:01:57
  Like did you grow up playing video games? How has that informed you
• 1:02:00
  on how you think you should be able to how aggressive you think you should
• 1:02:05
  be able to be. How realistic is that? Because this is a new
• 1:02:10
  generation of coaches, you can't ask Kirk parents about it. You couldn't ask
• 1:02:15
  Joe Paterno about it. You can ask these guys about it. Couldn't ask
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  Jim Harbo about it. I don't not Brett Belama, but like Ryan Day,
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  maybe Lincoln Raley, like Walter Ryan Walters for sure, that is a
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  thing that everybody has done. Has it done anything for you in the way
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  you think as a coach? Or is this just a ridiculous notion? Yeah?
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  Uh, Jordan Kapler says, Purdue has entered the chat. And let
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  me just I feel like I just need to say this as often as I
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  can. October eighteenth, Oregon at Purdue Friday night, the week after six
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  days after what could be the biggest regular season in Oregon program history, win
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  more loss. You got to get on a plane and you got to go
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  to ross Aid Stadium on a Friday night, Tony, what could possibly go
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  wrong? You know, I'm gonna assume it's gonna be raining, and you
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  know it'll be like maybe like fifty seven degrees or something. It'll be you
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  know, temperature. Fine, I mean, it's nothing that Oregon wouldn't be
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  used to playing in. Frankly, but and also the Friday night PAC twelve
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  games is times where it's like, what, how did you lose that game?
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  Oh? Yes, well, lady night, that's a Friday night USC
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  going up to up to the poloops yeah, or to Core Vallas like that.
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  But I've got pretty going to Intent, yeah, and they've got to
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  they've It's not an easy schedule. No, it is not an easy schedule.
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  Wingman said, I'm going to guess the answer is no. Sorry,
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  keep the check keeps jumping because you guys keep putting in great questions. Wing
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  The test is I don't have NCA twenty five yet. Does it have a
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  player with the Bloco jersey? If so, who is it? I'm guessing
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  the answers no because the answer is no, yeah the answer, and with
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  the game being able to be updated, they will probably have one with the
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  Blocko jersey as soon as that changes, but right now, uh, it
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  does not. Super chat from Drew Colabro, the Shoe Rutuo account posted over
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  an hour of video of Oshue wide receivers and quarterback practicing. Interesting watch and
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  get dynamics of the quarterback battle. So I have not seen that, say
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  j Ohio with the prediction Purdue by ten punts, that's uh could be.
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  I mean, there's I'm not expecting Oregon to lose. I'm expecting Oregon to
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  have a terrible time and to learn what the rest of the Big ten already
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  knows games. It's yeah, just be ready likedue rass eight is just like
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  an entire orange barrel in itself. It just ruins everything. Yeah, super
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  chat from Steve. Sorry, Stephen Cherry's his organ High State versus orgon a
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  night game. Uh, the question is not we don't know yet. I
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  can show my math on this or you can just take my word for it.
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  There is. We know that there was a trade between the networks that
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  one network traded in another network a week traded essentially traded down in the draft.
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  So my assumption is based on where this is and where I think how
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  I think these games are going to fall. I think Fox traded probably the
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  third, second or third week of the draft for a couple picks later.
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  I think they traded it to NBC, not CBS. That has not none
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  of this is official. This is all kind of reading the tea leaves and
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  process of elimination. Yeah, process of elimination and that kind of stuff.
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  And I think the reason is that Fox is not going to do a primetime
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  game, and the Oregon Ohio State game is the biggest game, so you're
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  not gonna be able to do a you know, that's not gonna be big
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  noon because that's a nine am local kickoff on the West Coast. So I
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  think what would make the lot of sense to me would be Fox traded that
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  to NBC. NBC traded a couple picks later, and then Fox is going
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  to have their choice of the Penn State game being a noon or a three
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  to thirty kick Ohio State Penn State, or they could take the Michigan Oregon
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  game that week, which is at Michigan's that they can also have the big
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  ten have that be a big nude kickoff. This is all. You don't
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  care about any of this. This is this is all the like, how
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  am I I'm going to show my work? Like I always hated when your
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  math teacher asked you to show your work, and it's like, well,
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  I got the right answer. Yeah, The right answer is I'm pretty sure
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  that the Ohio State Oregon game is going to be primetime. The Ohio State
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  Penn State game is by virtue of the fact that if we know it's not
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  the white out game, right. That tells me Penn State knows that the
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  sun is going to be shining at the beginning of that game. So I'm
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  pretty sure that's how it's all gonna line up. None of this has been
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  announced, but I think that's how it's gonna shake it. I also think
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  it's interesting so far no CBS games, which is a three thirty, have
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  been out west, so okay, so I'm wondering, and this is something
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  we can ask them tomorrow or Wednesday. Is that even a consideration? Do
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  you even want a new you know? Yeah? And Pacific? This is
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  this is this is the week when we get to talk to like, this
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  is the week where we do all we ask we Tony and I every year
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  are this year the Big ten has absolutely hosed us and Bill Corolla, the
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  Big Ten's director officiating, is going at the same time as Ohio States players,
• 1:07:26
  which is super annoying because that is always the forty five most interesting minutes
• 1:07:30
  of my week of my week out in Indianapolis, which sounds so boring and
• 1:07:32
  it's so compelling and learn so much. We sat down with one of the
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  CBS executives last year, CBS executive. It was at lunch and just like
• 1:07:42
  sat there and just talked to him, and he kept looking at us,
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  like, why are you guys asking with this incredible minutia and a bunch of
• 1:07:48
  the stuff he wouldn't answer, couldn't answer. But we're we're trying to narrow
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  down like selection process and all kind of stuff. We're having these conversation and
• 1:08:00
  it's like, why would anyone possibly care about it? And he all but
• 1:08:02
  asked us, what, why could you possibly care about this? And the
• 1:08:05
  answer is because we'll get asked what times the organ gaame. We're like,
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  well, we can kind of do the math here, We've we've I you
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  know, I don't need a calculator for this. I can do this sort
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  of offen And there's only like six of us that care about it. But
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  right, yeah, and when I have Matt Sars on the morning show,
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  it's like, this is this is one of my people. I love this.
• 1:08:25
  This is great because he's the one who will tell you that you know,
• 1:08:28
  hey, you know, you gotta remember the Pittsburgh Pirates have a day
• 1:08:30
  game that day, so therefore the pit YadA YadA game is at night.
• 1:08:35
  Havnaar says, feel like when we handle business against Michigan, Ryan Day is
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  gonna have a Lou Holtz type postgame. Also, I'm going to the game
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  this year. Can't wait, get there early that day. Yes, that
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  is that is going to be. You know, we we did a biggest
• 1:08:48
  games in the Big Ten. And you know why get organ could legitimately if
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  Georgia loses early, be a one versus two game base game, probably regular
• 1:08:58
  season game in an organ program history point out Ohio State regular shias in history.
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  But I don't know that that's the biggest games in Ohio State schedule because
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  man if Ohio State, you know, I know, Ohio State could theoretically
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  win the National Championship and still lose to Michigan. There are going to be
• 1:09:12
  so many people who are not happy about life if that happens. That that
• 1:09:15
  is such a such an incredible game. And boy, the storylines around that
• 1:09:19
  game and what that's you know, all the storylines around that and could they
• 1:09:25
  be playing the next week. I mean, that's going to be so fascinating.
• 1:09:29
  So yes, if you can get to that game, strongly recommend you
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  should go to that. I finished Mind fifty for fifty series today and the
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  thing to look forward to. This last time was as soon as the Indiana
• 1:09:41
  game is over, Yeah, that is the start of Michigan week. Is
• 1:09:44
  the eleventh game of the year. As soon as that game is over,
• 1:09:46
  Indiana goes away, all of the questions, all the focuses on Michigan.
• 1:09:50
  And I don't know what kind of reaction Ryan Day will have. We've talked
• 1:09:58
  about this before when I asked twenty nineteen after beating Michigan, is it more
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  relief or is it more joy? And he said at the time, it's
• 1:10:04
  more relief. Yeah. I think this next although last I think last year
• 1:10:09
  would have been joy because it had been oh yeah years. This year,
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  I think it's gonna be good. Go back to relief, yeah yeah,
• 1:10:15
  and then the joy, but yeah, you have to win it, yeah,
• 1:10:18
  oh yeah. And then you wonder, you know, the third base
• 1:10:23
  sniping. I mean Searan Moore inherited the defending national championship program, so you
• 1:10:28
  know, you could you could see that going year. Ryan, they inherited
• 1:10:30
  a team that lost it perdue. That is that is true? Marktik says,
• 1:10:35
  defend your answer, and Tom comes out guns blazing. Listen, we
• 1:10:39
  can show our work generally listen, I have read plenty of big ten bylaws
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  on the show years. We will always show our work if you ask us
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  to, but generally the answer is it will be better for everyone if you
• 1:10:50
  just trust us. We have We generally have reasons for what we say on
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  here. But yeah, that's definitely definitely a definitely something we will We will
• 1:11:00
  go into detail if you ask. Market Ich says, OSU versus orgon can
• 1:11:04
  happen three times this season? The truck is at least a rematch. We've
• 1:11:08
  we've already put the over under it one and a half. We've both taken
• 1:11:10
  the over, I believe. Yeah, so yeah, I just think you
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  get ready to the first game is only going to be when they play on
• 1:11:17
  October twelfth, Quad and just call it the first game, yes, you
• 1:11:19
  know, yeah, yeah, It's like why didn't they call this World War
• 1:11:23
  One at the time. It's like, well, they didn't know. I
• 1:11:25
  think I feel like I feel like Ohio State versus Oregon one, we could
• 1:11:28
  just we could just call it that, and I feel like you're probably gonna
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  get proven correct over with time. We maintains as Iowa could become a top
• 1:11:34
  tier program if they learned about the forward pass, what they achieve on defense,
• 1:11:38
  it's pretty special at Big Time. Yeah, I mean that Norm Parker
• 1:11:41
  is good at what he does, Brian Ferrence less so. But they have
• 1:11:45
  a new offensive coordinator new day. I'm interested. That's another team I'm super
• 1:11:49
  interested to talk about. Like what what is the mood around there? Was?
• 1:11:54
  You know that was that was such an overwhelming story last year that swallowed
• 1:11:58
  up their whole season. Now you get a whole you got a new thing.
• 1:12:00
  How different is it really going to look? Well, you know Tim
• 1:12:04
  Lester, the former Western Michigan quarterback who is now the offensive coordinator. I
• 1:12:11
  liked him back in the day because he was on my fantasy team a couple
• 1:12:14
  of times. So, but any kind of offense would be a significant upgrade.
• 1:12:21
  But if you have a good offense, like this is a ten win
• 1:12:25
  team and that's a playoff team, I just think how much how much has
• 1:12:29
  been wasted over these last few years. And the thing is you're not you're
• 1:12:34
  not national title contenders per se. But they've been close to making the playoffs.
• 1:12:40
  Twenty fifteen there went away in the Big Ten championship game. Like they've
• 1:12:43
  been close, and they've actively tried not to get there, you know,
• 1:12:47
  with the offense, and now you maybe fix that, but I still don't
• 1:12:55
  know how fixed it is because you still need players as well. Like defensively,
• 1:12:58
  they've got they've got the system, they've got players, they've got time
• 1:13:00
  to develop. Offensively, I don't know how far along in that development they
• 1:13:06
  are. You've got. You know, Cave mcnamarck quarterback is what he is.
• 1:13:10
  I mean, he's led a team to the playoffs, So but can
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  you stay healthy? Is there enough talent around him? Yeah? I think
• 1:13:16
  there's there's a bunch of questions about Iowa, but special teams and defense are
• 1:13:23
  going to keep them in games that the offense they just wouldn't lose them,
• 1:13:29
  Like how many how many games did the offense lose for them last year and
• 1:13:32
  has over the last few years all of them. Who's gonna say how many
• 1:13:35
  games did they lose? It feels like you know that the Ohio State game
• 1:13:40
  last year, they gave up fifty something points, So maybe not that one,
• 1:13:43
  but probably pretty much all the others. So and like I told you
• 1:13:46
  a week or so ago, it's been twenty nine games since they've scored four
• 1:13:49
  offensive touchdowns in the Big ten game, which is just insane. I mean,
• 1:13:54
  because that goes back to twenty twenty nine games. I mean that,
• 1:13:59
  Yeah, I mean Maryland. Yeah, that's nut. That's that's you have
• 1:14:03
  to be trying to do that bad exactly. And one of my longtime tenants
• 1:14:08
  is that bad offense is on purpose, because anybody can have a good offense.
• 1:14:13
  You can scheme your way to a good off I go Northwestern, you
• 1:14:16
  know Zach Gustack and back in the day running Randy Walker, Like, they
• 1:14:19
  didn't have talent, but they had a really good offense, and they could
• 1:14:21
  even run the ball with like Damian Anderson rushing for two thousand years. They
• 1:14:26
  could do that, so you didn't just have to take and done. They
• 1:14:28
  actually had a second kind of offense where they were able to run the ball.
• 1:14:31
  You just have to want to do it and have a system that works
• 1:14:35
  and not one actively works against you. Yeah. Wait, made dead.
• 1:14:39
  Months knows Prince Brian's still part of the Iowa program. I didn't follow the
• 1:14:42
  status with the organization after his fall from Grace. No I believe he is
• 1:14:45
  officially out and unaffiliated with the Iowa football program. As far I assume he's
• 1:14:48
  like a head coach somewhere in the NFL. Is that no, not as
• 1:14:54
  not somewhere. I think there was an arena game in the mall recently.
• 1:15:00
  I don't know if if he had anything to do with that Moll security.
• 1:15:02
  I don't know. I just went to a Canadian football game and can firm
• 1:15:05
  he was not at the Hamilton Tiger Cats runner. I don't think Canada would
• 1:15:10
  allow him be football. Felon, listen that they punt on third down up
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  there. That is that is some real farens ball. They're punting the first
• 1:15:20
  I tweeted about this from the game. They they punt on third down.
• 1:15:24
  The Hamilton Tiger Heads were Black and Gold, punt on third down, scored
• 1:15:29
  their first touchdown on a block punt that set up an eight yard touchdown drive,
• 1:15:31
  score their tech and second touchdown on a scoop and score. And I'm
• 1:15:34
  like, this is Iowa, this is Iowa North. It is wild.
• 1:15:40
  It is It is quite a quite a fascinating, quite a fascinating thing there.
• 1:15:46
  Mozart's ghosays, now that Savan has gone, who's gonna run with the
• 1:15:49
  school for Wayward Coaches? I don't, I mean, it feels like that
• 1:15:55
  is going to be probably spread out a little bit more now because you've got
• 1:15:58
  so many, you know, the unlimited coaching staffs. I'm sure Kirby Smart's
• 1:16:03
  bringing in a bunch of analysts. I'm sure bringing in I'm sure lots of
• 1:16:05
  people are bringing in a lot of analysts because it's just at this point,
• 1:16:09
  there's so much more film to break down. There's so much more everything.
• 1:16:11
  You need more, you need more bodies, you need more. I'll tell
• 1:16:14
  you who I think we'll do it. It's the coaches who are helped by
• 1:16:16
  such a thing like Lane Kiffin, like Steve Sarkisian, like Tom Herman.
• 1:16:23
  You know where they've had their issues and they will help others out who can
• 1:16:28
  obviously help them out. Yeah. Uh, And we're gonna wrap it up
• 1:16:31
  here with market X, Iowa was Continent and Sparty need to all get it
• 1:16:34
  together, otherwise their second year program status could be third year real quick.
• 1:16:38
  I I think if you're looking at the Big ten this year, I think
• 1:16:43
  there's an argument you made that there are two teams in the first tier and
• 1:16:45
  there's two to three to maybe four teams in the second tier, depending on
• 1:16:54
  you know, how you want to delineate that but I you know, I
• 1:16:57
  mean I think Iowa is probably Iowa was a second tier team to me,
• 1:17:02
  like I think, you know, you've got Ohio State, Oregon. Yeah,
• 1:17:05
  then you've got who are like legitimate national championship contenders this year. You
• 1:17:10
  got Michigan Penn State, who I think are strong college football playoff contenders.
• 1:17:14
  You've got Iowa, who's you know in that in that conversation, certainly they
• 1:17:16
  could be either of those teams. They could. You don't know that they're
• 1:17:19
  I don't think they're as good as correct, have as much talent correct.
• 1:17:23
  Yeah, And then you're getting into Nebraska, which is like, you know,
• 1:17:27
  if everything breaks right, and they could be a college and the rest
• 1:17:30
  Yeah, yeah, you get you get down to end the rest, and
• 1:17:33
  I think Wisconsin's in that third tier and they could certainly move up. Michigan
• 1:17:38
  State might be in the fourth year this year. Michigan State is I like
• 1:17:42
  the Jonathan Jonathan Smith higher that's gonna be a process that is not going to
• 1:17:45
  be an easy, you know, a real quick easy uh you know,
• 1:17:49
  first season bing bang boom. But yeah, that is that is a yeah,
• 1:17:55
  that that that I think there'll be more more tiers than the Big ten
• 1:17:58
  than I ever have before, and you know, one more reason to really
• 1:18:02
  look forward to the season. We had grand plans on going like twenty minutes.
• 1:18:05
  We're here an hour and almost twenty minutes into the show, so I
• 1:18:09
  think Tony, it is probably time to wrap it up. We will have
• 1:18:12
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• 1:18:15
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• 1:18:19
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• 1:18:27
  Listen, I don't mean to you know, I've said this a few times
• 1:18:30
  in other contexts, so you know I'm not just saying it for this.
• 1:18:32
  This feels like it's gonna be a pretty exciting, memorable college football season,
• 1:18:35
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• 1:18:50
  Thank you guys all for joining us. Have a great day. We'll talk
• 1:18:54
  to you tomorrow