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Talks to Mark Rawlins about his choice of Battlefield (2/4) · A Hamster With a Blunt Penknife - a Doctor Who Commentary podcast

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  Welcome back to a hamster with a blunt penknife, a doctor who
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  commentary podcast, you really sound.
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  Like, you're thinking about it and know it's been a while.
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  Yeah, we did the Android Invasion.
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  Commentary many, many years ago. Yes.
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  I anything I know it was like getting blood out of a stone to
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  get paid. You don't fucking shut up.
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  Now, do ya? Well, we are here.
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  We are watching battle. Build.
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  That's right. Episode 2 episode 2 and the air
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  is like, honey kind of Palau de Ferran Smock.
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  Answer your question. Yeah, well I do love asking
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  questions is any way to learn. I think that's his first of a
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  coin, isn't it? I don't know.
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  Okay. Do you think this is an
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  interesting innovation of units because obviously in the 70s it
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  was very British wasn't very sort of middle-class the Benton
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  and Yates and the Brigadier was now they're going sort of full
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  on Continental. They got he's got Peter for
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  international. Yes.
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  Yeah. And you obviously you've got
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  lots of mixed race and I don't know.
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  I just think it's so refreshing because we are you couldn't have
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  stayed how it was in terms of representation though.
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  I think this is one of the best Doctor Who story.
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  Still absolutely. And again, in season 26, if they
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  had another season, it would have only progressed even more
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  and just carried on that way. I think.
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  And that's a shame, isn't it? Yeah, a more shallow young.
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  We want both of them. Like our carpet.
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  Bring a shovel young into the bamburgh series.
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  I would love is going to take the big finish thing.
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  I think answer needs to come back and they could get you all
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  these characters. Yeah.
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  Should we start part two is her? Yeah, yeah.
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  Oh, I'm slipping my offers. I hang on a second.
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  What? Hey, that's my car.
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  Okay, it's all right, it's okay. I don't need it.
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  Okay, stop it. I love the way the Stars expose
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  lucky stars. I love the Silvery rocks that
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  goat. Which one do you know what
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  though, right? I think they didn't.
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  The reason why the ratings were so low this season.
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  If they didn't do no trials or anything.
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  The dial is always some this always excuses 3.9 million
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  viewers and this was a show on the up, I know.
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  But this was it against Coronation Street by now and a
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  weekday or something. Well, reg Holdsworth.
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  That's a hell of a drawer under the curly W and Raquel.
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  I think they would have no. You got though in theory,
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  eye-popping Coronation Street. This is the best pub set you
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  shot. The go Crow Hotel.
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  Like, if they don't need Coronation Street, they can turn
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  over and c-jun Bland in the bar. What's that strange?
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  But what about when the lights go out?
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  Everyone screams I love that. I like what he goes.
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  Pop morning and it was so scary. It was scary when the lights go
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  out. Okay.
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  We just have a moment for Angela Bruce.
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  I'll can you turn up a second? I just want everyone to hear
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  her. Saying you ready.
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  She's very came through. Oh no.
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  There we go, there we go. There we go.
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  You're not your freaky friend, well about sound earlier, let's
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  see. Okay, Joe, I'm actually
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  convinced us a brewery that it got really Barrel.
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  So this is this set all okay? No sir.
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  Yeah, it's perfect in the lighting spot on.
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  You know what's hilarious in a minute where she's you'll talk
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  to me and stop kicking the shit out of answer, then they're just
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  establishing that crowd that Charles, I love love it.
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  Oh shit, look up shooting him. Oh, so here we have Mordred
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  holdren. Who Sarah Sutton for was a nice
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  bit of rough on the behind the sofa.
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  I've not seen him in any other stuff.
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  I mean, I've seen oh I'll tell my story.
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  Someone Marcus Gilbert story. Oh, you're listening take.
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  This was the worst experience of box life.
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  So it was a little pissed off. I'm very excited to meet some of
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  the cost of Battlefield. That's what they did.
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  There's quite a few of them together a convention.
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  I went to a few years ago and I met him then he was You saw,
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  right? And then this time at this
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  signing they won't think about this.
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  Yeah, it's very bizarre right. It's because five fabulous
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  Phantom. They do these lovely events but
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  more this one. It was the signing in this
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  church Hall of a couple of tables and these tiny kitty
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  chairs, we are amazed. So anyway, very strange Affair.
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  Great, Marcus Gilbert was there. I had something for him to die.
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  Very exciting to see because it's from my favorite.
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  One of my favorite stories and he'd hurt his hand.
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  So you're right. Right?
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  And yet it in like a cast or something.
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  So I was growing up. Was that how can you sign that?
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  You know, it was literally he had to sit right to Mark and
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  sign his name and he was like, I've hurt my hand, I can try
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  dedications, I can't write to Mark so he just refused to
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  Bright that he wrote his name just about and then the person
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  wrote and then he got whoever was looking after him to write
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  the dedication, still got some random person wrote to Mark and
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  then he wrote his name, very slowly I was just thought I just
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  thought As long as mom, not towards me, I have never seen
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  him. Look so slighted and insulted.
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  It was just something you wouldn't expect ha ha I can't
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  write like six letters. You would you're gonna love this
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  I like a drama. Well I just thought don't if you
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  can't do it don't turn up and do it and don't charge 10 pounds to
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  be there and he looked very, I just thought would like To say
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  that it doesn't wait, does that take my favors of the moment
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  that's for your enjoyment Iceland?
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  No, it doesn't, that's good, because it's not good.
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  Insulin is not markers. Girl, you've told us are right
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  down again, right? Okay, here we go.
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  Well, we had have slid into the Marcus gilworth.
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  I'm sorry. I just I just lie here in a bit
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  of chemical. Oh, I mean, I'm sure he's all
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  right, it was just, I just thought, what?
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  Don't even bother turning up. If you can't use your hand, a
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  did you see that appcache Y, which is Surname and celyn.
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  Oh yeah, it means son of something in Welsh, but it's
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  tied into the Arthurian Legend. A lot of, oh, yeah, he's got a
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  lot of the Welsh names and the worst things in the layout.
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  And with, this is a Shameless, it, I'll tell you for why,
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  because are you going to enter offer it right now?
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  I've got good aural Rich night. Okay, I've got to say, I think
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  she gets a fabulous build up all this sorcery and their light
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  fittings, you know, going up and lighting up and the sword guide.
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  In and the Sparks. And then he starts laughing his
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  head off and it's just a pant. I think the Laughing scene
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  divides. No, well, no, actually like used
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  to once it's just a bit. Is it that long rector's?
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  The directors issue there go Kerrigan?
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  Yes, you have but you know what, I gotta try and build up the
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  tension more and more and more and more given up.
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  I have this ongoing, ha ha ha, you know, it's one of those
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  points in Doctor, Who there are certain point sometimes where
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  you When someone else to walk in the room while you're watching
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  it and you don't want someone to walk in the room, why he's
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  laughing his head off. That isn't a fan.
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  I mean, it's no I'm eating then she turns up in that in a hail
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  of light and but then that is an amazing thing and the way that
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  the lights there and it's to hide all the lights behind their
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  really, she's just in a way. It's just it's so funny as you
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  can go from something terrible like that.
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  Laughing doesn't mean amazing. Mark hear me?
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  I do not face against me this time.
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  Mark. And for your soul say you know
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  so many lines just brilliant, was this Scabbard on a sword it
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  on a wire that's like CGI or something.
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  But yeah, I think it's kind of. Why are they always the glasses?
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  Look, I know it's like people make pretty things.
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  Do people come on crank them up. So I'm going on about I do like
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  to go to these kind of, you know, these pubs, and it smells
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  like cigarette smoke. You know, your sort of
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  traditional Personal life. All right, you quite like, oh
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  when the Brigadier he's still up there, he's it's the longest
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  he's asleep. I thought in helicopters, she's
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  supposed to get there really quick, I thought I'd be it's not
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  really so much about the story of the Briggs asleep.
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  If this is ready to shred and knowledge, if they could get the
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  tower, we cast from like to nightclub appearances from one
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  end of the UK to the other, like they did at the height of their
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  Fame, which I've listened to about above all the podcasts.
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  Yeah, thank you. Get a brigadier from one place
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  to the other in what he's like two days or something.
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  I'll know. No, I'm sorry.
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  Sorry, correction. He's stops in London.
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  P to be briefed. Doesn't well, it's a shame
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  because I'm a special edition, they show footage of London and
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  it allows you to understand the geography of what they're doing
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  more. I feel like there's some bits
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  that were taken out that would have helped but can I say, yeah,
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  so far we see them in a garden. Setting are doing his garden and
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  his lovely Garden. Then getting taken ages together
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  helicopter, then asleep. And then when he finally gets to
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  Carberry, you just has a little chat with more game.
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  Hello. Yes, we're in the now, we're
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  gonna avoid Bloodshed, you know, it's like yeah, and if you don't
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  know the character of the Brigadier, you'd be like that
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  looks different because you'd be like, who's this guy mayor's on
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  his way, that's completely disconnected from everything so
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  far. Because we know it's the
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  Brigadier, it's just great to see him doing whatever, really
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  isn't it? It is and he is he is fun and
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  they did some lovely things. Were him an ace, you know.
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  Well they cut that scene out, didn't they wear their weather
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  gets. Yeah.
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  Not really, my field. Is a bit of showing that was all
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  right, boys acting at this bit is hilarious.
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  I cannot allow your at the ferrets and you do any sort of,
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  you know, any grabs, the Scabbard and sort of screams in
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  pain. Hmm.
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  Have you ever seen an orgasm a bit more?
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  I don't want to do right now. Justin cause behind it goes.
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  She is coming because he knows. Yeah, yeah.
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  And can I say as much as I am, ripping this a lot Jean.
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  Marsh, as more gain is bloody brilliant.
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  She's Peerless Lee good and she's been playing which is like
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  the heads in Willow often feels like that great and Willows and
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  hospitalized actually what she's doing is she they are not the
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  Savage. Because you led us to believe we
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  fought on this soil, that proper respect for that dead, and all
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  the acting in this. Everybody is just one Hunt is
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  right in it. No one is.
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  As I like Duck, this story just gets out.
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  It does get criticism for being a bit over the top, but I don't
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  think it is because they you know, these guys that she got an
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  Obe. Yeah, Gmail's got no be yeah,
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  well half a Battlefield. You know, we were together in
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  the woods of salad. All she getting a really getting
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  that thing pinned on her. I loved Battlefield episode 2.
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  She can absolutely turn up at Buckingham Palace dressed like
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  that happiness breastplate. Do you know what?
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  Sarah Jane Adventures. That Michael Kerrigan directed
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  the roster, but one the secrets of the stars and but also
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  Ronnie's first one with the clown and Bradley Walsh.
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  There we go. I love that.
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  Yeah, the lights will go out and everyone screams.
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  This is nice. I, this is unusual through the
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  garden. A garden like this, but you know
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  what? I read it, I had to write a
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  review Once. Yeah, that said that suggests
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  the record was more convincing popping a bag of crisps.
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  That it was delivering his speech.
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  He's I think he I don't have any criticism for its first, of
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  course, is the first story with his new brown jacket.
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  Oh yeah, because they film these ones out of sequence in there
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  and then they were broadcast in different.
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  So yeah. Oh at that Berra.
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  And Ansel in are sleeping together right now and he's
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  hanging out, she's taking advantage of him handcuffed on
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  it but she seems the type open sure where it's you think I
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  don't understand. Where's the rest of you knit,
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  while this is all happening. That's what I don't like.
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  I don't like for the flight and she'd be able to find some back.
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  Oh, and Brigadier he stood in the helicopter, What why are
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  they got carrier bags over there?
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  I think that's just my name's, isn't it?
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  That's how you looked. This is a very bug so you know
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  they like kind of a statically. It's very very prescient.
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  I think you would have got was that a helicopter in further
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  series? If They carried on Union
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  helicopter, talk about the helicopter.
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  I love helicopters. Come on.
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  I've never done a wee bit rickety, don't know.
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  With me legs dangling out as you go from one end of the country
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  to the other, it's a bit like challenge anneka because she's
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  been off the story going around, can get it.
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  How many locations in the early minutes on the biggest?
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  This could be the clue. What was the clue?
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  But of course. Everything else propaganda.
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  No, it'll be something like our Theory and legend by the Like,
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  well, I'll is brewed and, and, and Braille is at the bar?
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  Oh, yes. The key thinks, he can see a BBC
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  crew down there, filming Doctor, Who they've?
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  They've them crashed, the Warhead and to the main point of
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  archaeology Mark is to carefully her a cover, the parts.
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  And this is why we love Ace. Blowing things up.
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  That's what you like as a child. You Roy was the coolest thing
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  ever to do for this kind of stuff to what she's done and
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  kids to be arsonists and that's what you'd like demolition is
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  like. And this is that's why ice was
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  brilliant. Nobody let Mark babysit their
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  children and they all go to tell it to terrorists.
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  Okay, I love that bit though. She goes.
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  I think I may have missed out on the timing.
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  One of these days it will have a talk.
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  About acceptable. Safety measure.
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  Sorry, it's just too tempting. Oh, this line.
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  Just big Czechoslovakian. I don't know what I had done.
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  Ugh. So she's really fun.
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  And she has a really, really sad death.
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  I know I know. Oh, my God.
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  Can you quote, this bit? Come on.
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  Come My Lady my lady again, I'll break your nose.
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  You know what can I just have a weird fetish about Doctor Who
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  say in Greenie green forests. It's a classic location like
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  Paris Mars Android Invasion. Seeds of Doom.
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  Visitation I just love it when we go into the forest.
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  So, you know, when the helicopter lands and blows up.
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  Yeah. Well, they didn't blow up an
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  actual helicopter. I think it was a well-known a
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  fake version. Yeah, I don't know how they did
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  it. I think they only had one try
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  underwear. That church has to go visit,
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  very and change, yeah. What Jean Marsh is wearing as
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  well. That copper copper breastplate
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  rest, it's perfect. Its brief are just gonna say,
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  copper tits. She's going to teach them the
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  limits of their technology, but then she pays for the drinks
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  later, doesn't she by giving June Bland her sight back then
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  she murders Lavelle for the information but then she thought
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  they're not just what they called and so one-dimensional
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  characters. Yeah, two-dimensional going on.
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  Is very one-dimensional. Yeah.
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  But they don't got that much to do really.
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  But what Doesn't Airlines a brilliant.
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  But yeah, you've got that logic for more gain.
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  Like you say? There is a world there.
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  Yeah. Those been thought about history
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  as well. Yeah.
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  The whole, this whole story is built on her history with Arthur
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  and we learn in episode 4, is that she is in love with him.
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  Still. Mmm.
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  And she's angry because basically ditched her off for
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  the Round Table. It off on.
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  The roads are very low budget helicopter crash though, because
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  you've just got a helicopter with bit of smoke, coming out
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  the bottom of it. So, I say it.
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  Yeah, it's concrete tunnel. I for years, I thought this was
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  outside, can't, you know, time in the Ronnie s concrete tunnel,
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  but it's a sad. Apparently, you see that beyond
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  the info takes about concrete being used in the Roman, Roman
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  Empire, 500 BC. That I didn't know that.
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  No, he's conquered over. I got a little bit confusing,
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  the story. Why there was a concrete tunnel
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  here, but of the doctor is supposed to Ability lock, but
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  the doctor has supposed to do that.
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  No, actually, you know, our it spits out later on under the
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  water. Yeah.
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  It's I think the from going, you've only got that tunnel seen
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  there to connect all of that green sword area and underwater.
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  It's not until you see that model shot later on.
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  It's not always clear. Is it and is that what I shot?
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  Maybe because they cut out, if you got the VHS version, you've
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  got the twinkly staircase, which they cut out all of that.
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  You go from this underground archaeological dig to this
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  bright studio and it's the connect just isn't really there.
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  I don't think in terms of where stuff is, did you see that?
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  Apparently, this was supposed to be three parts all on location
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  originally. Well, I think it's lit well
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  enough. What I'm gonna turn these info
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  takes off because you just sitting there reading people
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  might want to know. Learn things about the think
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  Corey. The in vertex all themselves
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  called black is here, our convention anecdotes, especially
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  three parts all set on location and I think this is lit well
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  enough that you could convince be convinced.
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  This was all set on location. Then you think hopefully the
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  spaceship? Yeah, that's it.
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  And keep all of that bit. So why is she sending Mordred
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  away? This is I thought he's supposed
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  to be leading. The Army, isn't he?
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  Or I'm not sure, but she lets him do I layered?
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  It's a she. Hmm die.
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  Well, my son. This is very strange.
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  This bit with more gain meeting, the big villain and the hero me
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  and have a little chinwag Yeah. By supposing for the brigadier's
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  point of view. He doesn't know exactly what's
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  been going on. They haven't attacked him or
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  anything. But you know what?
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  I use that line all the time. But work, how guys today I've
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  had better because it's nice that she gives him the warning,
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  though. Next time we met.
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  All right I'm gonna kill you and the bigoted.
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  By this point he's met so many Rates.
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  He knows what to expect now, it's not there.
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  He's a wise abridging March before.
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  That was he he's a wise, a brigadier.
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  It's this strange that in the classic series, Nicholas County
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  and Jean Marsh first. And last story was together.
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  Oh yeah, yes not just pretty, yeah.
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  Oh, I'd love it. Oh, apparently, this bit with
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  James Ellis. Right.
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  Where is quoting? This wasn't in the script.
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  It just started doing it. I went out.
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  Well, that's just again, shall we?
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  I thought it was a bit odd. But the like over the ceiling.
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  Yeah, the sword. Is it clear that it's
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  underwater? I'm sorry everyone.
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  I keep a rubber, eh. I'll keep being a negative or
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  anything. Yeah, this is terrible.
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  This is my morning. Looking fish is a fish head with
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  dry ice. I don't know if the fish that
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  show fun Hills, it's all I got. Martina was more like Oh, boss
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  thinking about his mother with the end, will they go around in
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  the carts and the fun house? And they'll go to block and
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  they're like rillette. Let's count them and you got and
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  they go. We've got 1 2 3, 4 5.
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  Yeah, yeah. No, it's yeah, these terrible
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  polystyrene teeth. That reminds me of offered,
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  ontology, do you do if the scientific Study of teeth.
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  What's up from Terror of the zygons?
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  That's right. Set of giant molars that can cut
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  through Rock as easy as paper. So now this is where we get the
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  bit cut out so they go straight in there and your upper shelf
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  and they're going down the stairs on then I suppose the
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  down this helps realize that you're going underground.
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  Literally you have a spaceship on the ground with a fish head
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  to get in. Well what would you have hold
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  you don't think I went to click kept color.
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  Plays his music and the Knights sort of storm off like that.
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  Looks like they're all gone off to a gay disco but then I've
• 22:51
  been to a few like that, you know, they're all dressed up.
• 22:53
  Like no, it's oh this is where the talking about hang on.
• 23:02
  What is it? The science, which is
• 23:03
  indistinguishable from Magic and Magic, which is in distinguish
• 23:06
  which is some science. Super brilliant Doctor Who
• 23:09
  concept for which story The demons believe in science
• 23:13
  missile fault. Oh, that's all these things.
• 23:17
  It seems mr. Hawthorne in the pub as a
• 23:19
  regular you don't need a Miss whole phone.
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  You've got June Bland and Shout young father.
• 23:24
  Therefore also the hey I can't the ruins.
• 23:27
  Oh it's okay. Here we go.
• 23:30
  Is bringing this action question about because Courtney in this
• 23:33
  story. Yeah.
• 23:34
  As he pulled a little white not feel, I think he's filling out
• 23:38
  in that unit costume, you know. Now I don't worry, he's fabulous
• 23:43
  and I love him but if I would like us to remodel it not that
• 23:46
  as well. So here we are.
• 23:47
  Here's the model shot of the spaceship.
• 23:48
  What do you think of this the design?
• 23:50
  I like the design but I don't think the model shots.
• 23:52
  It doesn't convince me. It actually feels like I've been
• 23:55
  shot in a fish tank would have probably had to look like that.
• 24:00
  It o is brilliant years old again.
• 24:08
  So when you first watched it? So So it was take this green
• 24:13
  thing comes out and but I just might be exciting.
• 24:17
  It was like how they're going to get out of this action-packed
• 24:20
  moment. It was it was brilliant in my
• 24:23
  nine-year-old head. I could not figure out what it
• 24:25
  was and I think that's what's scary and just as fast a Mac, I
• 24:28
  know about the set. Begin that gets of criticism.
• 24:32
  But no, it's what the the effect just the over the over,
• 24:37
  silliness physical silliness of because it has that great.
• 24:41
  Great climax. When it's brigade' are you know,
• 24:45
  we slip something doesn't really get rid of it.
• 24:48
  There we go. So, what's he supposed to be?
• 24:51
  I know it's an automatic digital.
• 24:53
  Yeah, it's like why does it look like?
• 24:56
  I don't know. Well it's sort of fish theme.
• 24:58
  Doesn't it like an eel? It's like a bob.
• 25:00
  Can you do braving eel? Because you've been to walk of
• 25:03
  editors will be. So, you've heard a girl bygone
• 25:05
  about this. Bloody story and the tank we
• 25:07
  can't. You, could you tell everybody?
• 25:08
  I'm not about tang and then they all turn around everybody.
• 25:11
  I've already died patches. That's so much.
• 25:13
  Yeah, I mean, by all accounts, it was the one time Sylvester
• 25:18
  McCoy got to be genuinely her. Week.
• 25:20
  Because he screamed Stef. Yeah, all of that.
• 25:25
  But you know what? I love this being filled up with
• 25:29
  water. Yeah, this is such a brilliant
• 25:31
  so real. Isn't it?
• 25:32
  Because actually, you don't really get in terms of Doctor
• 25:35
  Who companion. I mean, the nearest, the last
• 25:37
  physical thing. Like this you had was probably
• 25:39
  Colin Baker in the end of trial of a Time, Lord going in the
• 25:42
  mud. And I was four when they do sort
• 25:44
  of, when it sort of fits in that category, isn't it?
• 25:47
  When you're actually Duncan people in things?
• 25:50
  But you know, to make a point about this right to me, I think
• 25:54
  it's brilliant. You know, that people shouldn't
• 25:57
  extend their awareness and have shots of Doctor Who drowning.
• 26:02
  We're doing it again, the way we're doing it again.
• 26:05
  Yeah, that was amazing. That episode that we had Nichols
• 26:09
  Courtney. Join the action.
• 26:10
  We had Jean Marsh. Join the action where Sophie
• 26:13
  aldred nearly drought. Sorry.
• 26:14
  That's not why. They're but I mean, there's only
• 26:18
  one thing I would say as a criticism ISM not enough, Angela
• 26:21
  Burke's not. If there's actually know what
• 26:24
  this imagine if this was a six-part and you all those
• 26:27
  characters got bit, more time for it was going to be a three
• 26:30
  part. I mean, I know I just complained
• 26:31
  about - Courtney taking two episodes in a helicopter.
• 26:34
  You probably have three of us stopped off at a briefing.
• 26:38
  We could, uh, Kate lethbridge-stewart.
• 26:40
  We could have had, we could have met Charles Young's family.
• 26:43
  Shannon's family could have a bit more Doris.
• 26:45
  It was if it was Rusty. Dates is time.
• 26:47
  For is his family. Tree would have met mrs.
• 26:49
  Young Bye now and shipping well over sheep in.
• 26:52
  The Tardis family will be there. Yeah, you know what can I just
• 26:56
  say? You know, they say if you say it
• 26:57
  three times, then a big finish spin-off, emerges go, The
• 27:01
  Adventures of show young yes, please laughing.
• 27:05
  She's so fun.