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The Road to a Morocco Rally with Anna aka Footpegs | JUSTRIDE Podcast Ep.15 · JUSTRIDE Podcast

• Main: So welcome to another episode of the Just Ride Podcast. Today's guest is someone whose journey perfectly captures what motorcycling is all about. Not lap times, not horsepower, but courage, determination, and adventure. Joining us in the studio is Anna Maria Gilbert, better known as thousands of people out there as foot pegs. Yep. Foot pegs. Just a few years ago, Anna never had had never ridden a motorcycle, but today she's an adventure rider, a content creator, and is training to complete in a rally across the Moroccan desert. What's even more remarkable is that she's doing all of this whilst living with and I'm not gonna actually trigger I am not. Postoral or no, it's pots. And the other bit is PCOS, but Anna will explain what that is. These are conditions that many people would assume make this sort of adventure impossible. I think it's absolutely it's not gonna be possible, you're gonna be able to do it. but instead of allowing these diagnoses to define her, Anna has chosen to use motorcycles to inspire others. Raise awareness and fund research through Potts UK. Anna, welcome to Just Right. Now obviously I got that. I was I'd I tried to do it earlier on, right? And I got so tongue twied. tongue twied? Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. And that's that it is coffee. It is coffee. I'll be honest, I've had it a year or I've known about it for a year and still can't say it myself. So don't worry. Do do you want to try for us then for the listeners then say exactly what this stands for because I I can't do it. Postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome. What she said. Try saying that off it. We'll try that in the green room later on, right, when we'll film it. And the other thing, what's the So yeah, so this is like Can I stop before we go any further? Because I think we need to introduce Adam as well. He's so quiet next to us. So actually, actually. I'm also not meant to be here. You're not meant to be. No, no, he's my joyrider. And some of you regular viewers will notice that our one of our co hosts, Scotty, is missing. He's enjoying a a lovely break with his family, isn't he? and he'll be back so and we welcome Adam anyway. We welcome Adam. And we miss you, Scott. We'll see you very soon. Yeah, so Adam's come kicking and screaming at the studio. I think he'd wanted to sit down in the green room and enjoy some more of those fine I'm not gonna say what they were, but but we've dragged him into the studio. That sounds worse than it is, was that just some shots. It was meant to be worse than what it was. But we will be going back in the green room a little bit lower. But no welcome and and if anyone needed Sparky, right? Just loads of gooby jobs for you. Absolutely. And he's already looked at our wire and it's a new build all. I hope I hope your employer doesn't see this at Adam all right. I am my employee. And he loves cash. Or cash. Obviously if you're from the inland revenue, he pays his taxes. Let's cut off there, yeah. Let's go. This is a motorcycle. Is it a motorcycle ship? It is. So motorcycles, come on. So tonight we want to delve into who is Anna Maria Gilbert, better known as Foot Pegs. Yeah, exactly. So tell us who is Foot Pegs. Personally I don't know myself still now. I don't think we any of us know what who we are really. And I think that's what life is, is a journey of finding out who we really are. Wow. Mesostar. It is about motorcycles, remember that. yeah. well, to start with, so family wise, very engine heavy. My dad and my brother were very engine heavy. And my dad was in the police to start with. drove in the police and then was a motor trader for most of his life. largest part of his career, had a couple of pitches and was always tinkering, selling, playing with had bikes and I rebelled hard. Rebelled so hard and I sat on a pony when I was teeny weeny and that was it. I was done. That was I was sucked in. Rode for every weekend, week night, had ponies and that was it. That was me absolutely sucked in. And I'll cut the long story short, I think COVID came around and I was very fortunate that I could still go to work because it was The fact that we had to look after animals and things like that. We didn't compete, we didn't do anything that could cause us to be in hospital. Yeah, yeah. But we obviously were allowed out to do that and it was a blessing, I think, mentally. I wouldn't have survived if I didn't have that job. Right. but I got a bit sick of it. It was like eating cabbage every single day. It's cause it's only one horsepower, isn't it? I think you needed you needed more. That's the first gag tonight, by the first gag. Horsepower. Yeah, but they have a mind of their own, so they do stoppies and wheelies when they want to, not when you Yeah I I think my bike does that as well. so yeah, I think I think I I I did it as a job, studied it through university, did it as a job, did it every weekend, did it for work and I was a bit like Am I getting a bit I'm not I wasn't sick of it, I loved it as a job. I needed something at the weekends and through COVID I couldn't go and do anything. And I think that's what opened my eyes up to I need something else. Yeah. So once COVID was over and done with, I went and did my test. And loved it and had an MTO seven as my first bike. Wow. Yeah, I went straight in. I loved it. Absolutely loved it. But it was quite a duck of a bike. Is this the bike that wouldn't turn very well? Yeah. Yeah. So I jumped straight in and rode to Spain. a couple of months after taking my test, riding my bike, added. I was on the same trip. So there was a quite a group of us. Right. Girls went stayed in one hotel, we did a group rides every day, came back very leisurely, coffee, stunning views was amazing. Boys what did you just say? They got lost quite a few times. Yeah. Yeah. Boys went and did the tech. Mm. They did a big look round and they met us at our hotel at the all ride home. And group chat was popping off as it does. And there's photos, we're putting photos of our stuff, they're putting photos of of their trip and we found out that well Adam can verify this. I think they did four miles in two hours. On one day. On the first day actually. Yeah. F but from There was five of us dragging bikes through like G D. Towards Bilbao. Wow. And it was on one of the fire roads where they take the locks out. Ruts from the from the trucks were like on me like way steep and Adam just sent me a photo of his world raid sat upright in this massive rut uphill stuck. Wow. And you were at the pub really, weren't you? I wish That's a totally different sort of riding, isn't it? I mean that that is really tough. It it's hard work, but especially when you If you do it local to you, it's easy 'cause you kinda know where you're going. When you're on a completely unknown trail, don't know where it goes, don't know where it ends, don't know how long it is so you can get off it. Yeah. And it's starting to go dark 'cause you don't go out for the boat till four o'clock. And then you've got to get to somewhere as well that night without knowing really how far you're gonna get that night. You kind of got to just keep going until you till you get to the end. I I was gonna I was gonna say there, so th there must be a point in in the day where you think to yourself, is it easier to go back? Or have I just gotta keep going yeah straight ahead? and make that judgment at some point. The the best thing is you just don't plan. All right. And the most amazing thing in Spain is that you don't really need to plan. There'll always be a hotel, a room. Yeah. You know, you knock on the door and go, Have you have you got anything? Can you help us out? Course come in. Absolutely. We a later trip we did eventually was all off-road and we f stumbled across this incredible old palace. and it was 70 euros a night, but my god, it was like something you'd pay 300, 400 pounds a night in and in the UK. And then it came to food and it was forty euros for four courses. And then you added one if you wanted wine. And it was Michelin star. Yeah. Quarty. It was just mad. So just don't plan. And it all it everything happens for a reason. Yeah. It was literally fifty meters off the side of the tet as well. Just off the trail, down a drive. there's the hotel. Yeah. I I think that's one of those places you keep a secret to yourself and don't share with anybody else other than when the cameras go off and where we can get them detailed later. Or maybe we can put it on just right, but we won't talk about just right today. So so Anna, so you so you you did this trip just a few months after you you took your test. Sorry, we diverged quite a bit there, didn't we? no no no So I mean that's quite an adventure. Really, so it's quite a brave move. I mean, have you always had that sort of spirit of adventure? Have you always I've always done things without thought and calculation, yes. Okay. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Irresponsible then. Yes, I think. Reckless. Reckless. Yeah, yeah. I've always been that looks fun. Let's go and do it. yeah, I think although I suffer with some conditions, I think FOMO's up there. Yeah. I think that's the top one. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Yeah, so when Adam and the guys were sending these pictures and they were laughing and joking and these views with just no one around these vast views, I I was just sitting there thinking that's that's more me. Yeah. Yeah. The roads are great and the roads are stunning in Spain. They are perfectly maintained. Yeah. But yeah, that that was more me. Just wow. Just the banter, the laughing, picking bikes up, nothing's perfect. What happens happens. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. So as soon as I got home I was like I've got a sort of learning the basics. I looked for a bike. Yeah. That was that was gonna be my question about how quickly from the MTO seven did you change to I looked for bikes whilst I was in a quickly. Yeah, I was looking at bikes to what sort of bike I'd go for and the obvious like a CRF, two thirty and things like that. And it came about so Adam's brother works for Yamaha. A dealership. Yeah, we're best mates. We're best mates, yeah. So yeah, so we spoke to him and was like, you know, this looking for this and what do you what what do you think? And he went, Do you know what? I know just the bike. Mm. Rings up Andy who works in a different store. Have you still got that T T R two fifty? He goes, yeah, yeah, I do. Would you sell it? No, absolutely not. No. It's pristine, I've rebuilt it. It he knows every nut and bolt on it. And no, it's my pride and joy. Two weeks later. Did you still want that T T R Yes Yes I do. And it was two weeks before something like ABR. okay. Yeah, ABR twenty twenty three or four, something like that. and so that's the first time I really rode it was round the trails at ABR. We did the Yamaha experience before then. Yes. So I had done some lots of training, but the first time I rode my T T R was at ABR. But yeah, we went and did the Yamaha Day You taught me quite a lot. what not to do. Do as I say, not as I do. Yeah. So so would you say it took you long to adapt between the the T O seven to to you know an adventure bike? The T T R yeah. Yeah. I still think yeah, I think even now I jump on and ride it like it's a road bike and I'm st doing a lot of training now for Morocco and you know, a lot of tipping in body to the outside, tip it in. Things like that, I still I s it it's a bit of muscle memory sometimes. So yeah, it it is a big difference. People don't realise how much your body affects the bike and how much even just going down a lane and having the bike to your left, leaning over to the right so that you get the balance, so that you you know, it's yeah, it's Yeah, so when we did the ABR this year I I I had the opportunity so we're all road riders. and exactly. I'm glad you're sitting over there. well I'm sure people might be able to see my little Bridgestone thing on there. So that was off tower Mac by the way, gentlemen. so I had an opportunity to ride the one of the the C A F Moto, the thousand C C one, the T this year. And that was your first time off road on a thousand? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. there was no four fifties left. That would be my preference. There was no fifties left. So it was either a thousand CC or nothing. and it was really, really good fun. But for somebody that rides a a road bike, what we noticed, so I know that Tom and also Scott went, when you stand up on your foot pegs and we weren't riding w in proper boots as well, it was the obviously the As you were saying about the balance and about the totally different aspects of things that you've got to consider, where your wheels are, are they in ruts, are they what's coming up in in the distance? And you're constantly scanning everything and your body weight on the bike as well. And then I saw something on one of the socials the other day saying, if you're standing up you're breaking, if you're sitting down, you're cornering. And I'm thinking, I'm not so sure about I don't know, I'm not so sure about that 'cause I'm not that skilled on off road, but it sounded good. but it was just when I Got off the bike, as you mentioned there, it's a totally different use of all your muscles. And how did you find it? I loved it. Yeah, I loved it, but I I must admit, like we came home, so that was the Sunday. We had to break down the the this the the the the actual display, and then we came home Monday. I was in bits. Did you feel it? yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was just totally different use of muscles. Yeah, and it what hurt more than anything was the balls of my feet. That's what really hurt more than anything. that's probably because you didn't have the right that's obviously the injurier boots and the trail boots have a much tougher. Yeah, I'll not with that. Yeah, I was wearing a pair of road boots which were absolutely pants anyway. some old ones I had. Safety first guys. Yeah, safety first. but it was just that whole thing you've just described there was it was exhilarating actually. And then you look in back constantly thinking I don't wanna be holding people up and you're not holding anybody up, and then you say the Then you see the first person take a tumbling go, thank goodness it wasn't me. You nearly took a tumble. There's a bit of video you've Back end stepping out. Yeah. back end did step out going so and you can't see the gradient on that. And and you guys will be able to share. When you're doing those trails at ABR, I thought it was gonna be my first experience was gonna be pretty flat, you know. But it isn't, it's up, down. There's a big variety, especially even you know, the Bridgestone Trail is meant to be designed for amateurs or people who've never tried it before. But there is a huge variety on that on that first trail, yeah. Yeah, and and I know that when you have your chat before you're going out and they're saying, when we come to these points, we're gonna be taking this turn because the other one turn will say expert. and he said, When we come to the first point, we'll turn away, exp we'll avoid the expert. And I thought, Thank goodness for that. He said, However, and then I just thought, dear. When we get to the next turn, we're going the expert route, and I thought Well, here we go. I just gotta get gone. it was great. Yeah. It was great. And it was only what, thirty five minutes. Well I'm glad you're a convert. Otherwise it's total convert. And I mean we came away and we were just totally exhilarated by it. I know that we're doing something later in this year. You guys are gonna go and do something when I'm away on holiday. which is gonna be great as well. but I think I think we're all we're all sort of dabbling with adventure bikes now. I still haven't really but I'm really, really excited and looking forward to just getting it's the CF Moto four fifties we're gonna be riding and really looking forward to it. So interesting we were talking earlier in the green room that you guys don't do any road riding D and L not specifically. We do a bit. Well you have got your super you've got your nineteen eighties Super Tenera, which is your road bike bike As a a little treat. But yeah, we don't specifically go out to ride a road ride at all. We go in the van to r ride off road and we ride between off road sections of the road, but that's about it really. Yeah. We don't And that's weekly, isn't it? I mean you're obviously you're in training for this Moroccan trip. Yeah, I mean there was maybe a couple of weeks where we were busy doing other stuff. Like that's over but yeah, pretty much try and be out every week if not more. Or at least twice twice, you know, both days at the weekend. Yeah. Something like that. Try it. And we did a a day up in Yorkshire, I think we did a hundred and thirty miles. Something like that. Something like that. To just try and get some stamina in and then went out the next day as well, just as a to be like, right, you gotta get up and get it and do it get it done the another day. Because also those sorts of days test all my kit as well. Because when I'm out there I need to know what's gonna rub, I need to know where I'm gonna get a blister. I need to know If my knee braces are gonna annoy me, I need to know if my even if my socks, like the the top the top of the socks have a bit of a last a bit of Like grip. Like grip. Yeah, yeah. And that makes me blister. That destroys my skin. Eve you know, you get warm, you get sweaty, and then even causes a a bit of irritation and blister. So I found some socks that don't have that. Yeah. So you're in training for this Moroccan chip, which is based to raise awareness for pots. And to to raise some money we'll get into. Well was gonna do it anyway. Yeah. I was always gonna do it. Great. And I just thought, so I met someone called Hannah Adventures and so I met her at the Dirty Weekend down south. The what weekend? The Dirty Weekend. Okay. This is still motorcycling. Yeah, but I come in the wrong podcast. I'm looking at Adam just to comment. It isn't it is just an off road weekend. well. Of course, of course it is. Come on, it'll be dirty. And I'd seen that she'd done the Land Zen trial. Do we know what the Land Zend trial is? No. So Land Zen trial is I think it's over a hundred years old. It used to go from Land Zend to Edinburgh. right. and now obviously with lanes closing, it's not possible. So it's in three different locations now. And you'll have to fact check me on this, but one down south, Peak District, and in Two down south. Two down south and one in the Peak District. Right, got ya. and it's a Cars, bikes, hill climb basically. and she did that for charity for pots because she had it because she developed pots once she got hit by a roller coaster. Right. She got hit by a roller coaster. So she was queuing for a roller coaster and the roller coaster broke and crashed into itself and a part flew off and hit her in the back of the head. She had a backpack on so that did a lot of the Took the Force. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, she had to learn to talk, learn to walk. She has other conditions also. I'd I'd love for her to tell her this story because it would be so much better than me. Unfortunately she tripped and fell and got pregnant. So not the rule of course, I guess. I don't know how it happened. So she's Well we could probably have a podcast the Hollow Power that way. Yeah, so I originally she was supposed to come with, but she's unfortunately she's about to have a baby. Right. So she can't be with us. But so that's that's where it all started, I thought. Well The reason why I have my diagnosis, which has taken me all my life to find out, I've always known there's something not quite right, despite everything else. along with everything else. she raised awareness. She helped me. So I thought, well, I'm gonna tag this along with it. Yeah. I've paid for it, I'm gonna do it anyway. I may as well do something to raise some charity money, raise it. So how did you know that there was something wrong and then what were the kind of simple for those people who don't really know what this is, what what what were those? For me, I think everyone th there is a generalisation. I think everyone suffers with certain parts of it differently, as every condition is. for me, it was very early on. My earliest memory was in primary school and I went to a Catholic school. So every Friday I believe we'd have mass or assembly. And we'd stand up, sing hymns, sit down. Head teacher walks in, stand up, sit down, stand up, and I would faint. or at least become very close to fainting. Yeah. And I remember my teacher at the time hustled me under her arm and made me stand for the hymns while I was completely out. and they thought I think, as you do, you think, bloody dramatic children, stop being so attention seeking. And I think there was a conversation with my mum about is she getting enough breakfast? Are you feeding her enough? And well I think so. She's eating. So she obviously got me tested for like diabetes. I think there was a s a joint condition that could cause you all different things. Anyway, in the end I just got sweets in my in my uniform every day. Were there hambores as well? Harrybows. What sweets? I still carry b Harrybows now. I've got I've got like a kilo bag in my Moscow bags every every ride out. Wow So So how how how does I mean how does pots affect you day to day? So Mostly exhaustion. Okay. E I c I go to bed just I start getting re ready for bed about eight o'clock. And I'm just looking at And it's fine, breakfast isn't till eleven tomorrow. yeah. I start work at half seven so it's nearly stop for me. It's forty minutes there, so I'm up at six every day. So I find that even if I go to bed early, I still wake up like I haven't had a good night's sleep. And that's me all over and by eleven o'clock I'm exhausted. standing up quickly, the old TV fuzz. Yeah. So people probably won't know what that is. But you see the old TV fuzz and you start to feel a bit wobbly. having a hot shower, so temperature changes can make me feel quite poorly. so I wouldn't naturally jump up get the shower. I'd have breakfast first. I'd let my body regulate itself, get going, and then I I'd have a shower or whatever the plan is for that day. I find that food affects me quite greatly. So if I have a huge meal, all of my blood will go to my digestive system and leave me quite empty. Right. So especially if it's quite a a carb heavy meal. I'll suffer quite badly after that. I feel a bit wobbly, feel a bit tired and sluggish. But POTS doesn't usually come alone. So it usually comes with hypermobility, which is the Ellis Danlers syndrome. And it comes with mast cell activation syndrome. So it's all linked and I'm not gonna go too deeply into it, you can research it. But it's all linked in such a way that they believe that POTS and Ellis Danlers syndrome is linked in that your veins don't contract. Okay. So when you stand up, all your blood pulls down into your legs. And it doesn't pump it right back up. So that's why it's not regulating. So it's not re regulating in that way. And the hypermobility is that your tissue or connective tissue isn't taut. Yeah. Right. So that affects the joints as well as the veins. So that you have very loose joints. So I can dislocate quite easily. But the plus side of that is yes, I dislocate quite easily but it pops back in. Yeah. So it's not as it still hurts and it still leaves me very weak and very uncomfortable. but I have dislocated in quite a few ways now that I've know I've dislocated, but it's I know it's back in and I'm back. Wow. So so let me get this. My my head is just going you know, you've got all these qu actually quite serious medical conditions, quite life affecting medical conditions. And you choose to ride motorbikes. and horses. And horses. yeah, yeah, yeah. And not only that, you are choosing to ride through Morocco. Yeah. I don't yeah. I just get FOMO when someone said once, Do you want to do a rally in Morocco? I'm like, Yes. Let's go. I mean it's like we were sat we were s sat watching Romaniacs. Yeah and I and I saw someone that had gone had ridden bikes for nine months and then gone and done Romaniacs. She looked amazing. And I just went to Adam, Do you want to do my Romaniacs next day? And he was like Yeah. Okay. So like yeah, cool. Yeah, I'm fine with it. Yeah, he's one with talent. She said it on the podcast, you've got to do it now. So I messaged messaged a few people yesterday and a few of the girls. Yeah, a few of the girls like, Yeah, I'll do Romaniac. So we'll see. We'll see if it happens. I think you're amazing. I think I think you know, I know I know some people who, you know, who'd break a nail and like, well, I'm just going to bed for the rest of the day. I mean I do go go do a cool stuff occasionally but I don't want to take away from the fact that I do have days in bed. Yeah. I do and planning my energy, I it's like having tickets. I will run out of them. And like for even a weekend with friends, I'll probably go right, I'll a quiet Thursday, I'll finish work lunchtime. Thursday choices. And I'll try and get a nap in there or, you know, we'll finish riding on Sunday, Monday. But I won't go to work until what's it? And I do have to take that time to recover in order to be able to go and do these things. So Morocco for me, I actually don't know if I can complete it. I don't know if my body will do it because it is five, six consecutive days bikes and it's three hundred kilometre, two days, and it's intense. I'm not gonna get my beauty sleep. I'm not gonna do you know what I mean? So I don't know if I can finish it. It's something I would love to complete. And I'm gonna be realistic and say it's a challenge. When is it? December. December. Right. Are you are you going with it? Yeah. So I suppose that is hence the doing a hundred and thirty miles in North York is trying to build stamina to do you know, to actually take on this huge challenge. It is, but I will never be able to train enough in the UK because yes, we did a hundred and thirty miles, but how much of that was tarmac? Yeah. And in Morocco How much of that will be tarmac in Morocco? True. Yeah. It's so it's all surfaces in so sand, rocks, all right. Okay. Yeah, primarily off road. Yeah. In Morocco is amazing. If you if you ever are debating going and riding off road, we went with Wilderness Wheels. That's who we're going with for the rally. Yeah. And it was just phenomenal. We didn't touch tarmac all day. We found a lunch stop in the middle of nowhere and they brought the fish off, you know, off a boat and you know, we just turned up at the next hotel, everything was done for us, bikes were serviced every night, w wined and dined, it was just the most amazing holiday. And that's probably what now where I've false sense of security. Do you want to do a rally? Yeah, definitely. This was amazing and it's not gonna be like that. Well I do thought Maya's listening to all of this. Are we gonna get wined and dined every night when we come to Portugal? Hey if not come with us. So w when you described obviously being at school and and up and down, you know Depend upon what was happening in the assemblies. Do you get any sort of pre-nautis? 100%. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So I like tingling my fingers in my teeth. I feel very clammy, I feel hot yet cold. so I know it's coming. I if anyone has ever fainted before, they know when they're gonna faint. And because I think I'm quite fortunate because I've had it so from such a young age, I have adapted from such an early. start that I know how to never even be in that situation where I know it's coming. So you manage it. Yeah. Absolutely. And that that was that was the be all and end all really with the hospital is when I was being diagnosed, he basically said, Do you faint? And I go, Not anymore. No, I've had it, I've learned to deal with this one such an age. He like, Cool, crack on. Yeah. Yeah. And how do you feel about that then? Because I mean, yeah, li living with that, that must be quite a worry for you, is it, when when you're not with her? I think the the worry more is work. Mm. If anything works with horses on her own a lot of the time. It's more the fact she could get injured on from falling off a horse more than because she's lived with it and managed it so well for such a long time. Yeah. The it's like riding off road on your own. You don't you don't do it. Yeah. 'Cause if you get trapped under a bike, you're stuck there until someone randomly finds you possibly. It's the same with you if you are working on your own. Yeah. It's you don't always work on your own but sometimes you are. One time I did have a really bad accent you were actually there, weren't you? Yeah. so that's yeah, the the pot side of it doesn't necessarily worry me 'cause you she lives with it so much anyway. That's pretty kind of normal life. Yeah. And nothing it doesn't really ever affect you to the point you can't just stop you to yourself, take yourself to one side and deal with it and make yourself feel better. Yeah. Even if it takes an hour of sitting down chilling about. Feet in the air. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. whereas the work side of it is way more risky than And I I genuinely feel better when I'm up and about making my blood pressure manually regulate itself at work. Whereas I genuinely feel more poorly if we have a day off, don't I? And it just I never get my blood pressure right. I ends up making me f have other symptoms and I just feel rotten. It i i you can't explain it. You don't feel poorly. You don't feel quite right. You stand up and you f just feel a bit all a bit spaced out all over the place. You get headaches, you get horrendous palpitations, like they're almost in your neck. Right. and so generally going to work actually does make me feel okay. So you're about to do this mammoth challenge where you're gonna be up and down in the seat all day long. Yeah. You're gonna be it's gonna be really tiring bit you know, all terrains. Unpredictable. Unpredictable. Yeah, 'cause yeah. It you won't know what's coming up. You don't walk it first. yeah, and I I am doing it there's a a load of us going, there's about a hundred riders, so I'm sure that points I will be riding with people but I w want to do it on my own. You have a bag of Harry Bows so you will be fine. Yeah. So you do you're doing this to raise money and awareness of pots? Absolutely. How much are you hoping to raise? I'd like to raise two thousand pounds. Cool. Right. Okay. Plucked that out the air, don't ask me why. I'm sure we we've researched that. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know where you have to at the moment? I I I've done one post. I've not I've not done a lot. I haven't put any work into it. I've raised five hundred pounds. just shine five hundred pounds, yeah. That's one that's great. I'm sure the listeners will want to get involved and the viewers and we can certainly pour some light in. Well none of it none of it goes to me. It doesn't have any without being too boring. It doesn't have anything it doesn't matter to me as such. Nothing you know, I've paid for the whole rally, I've not got sponsors for the rally, all the kits mine. It is purely for you guys to win some really cool prizes and I've got the prizes. I've got some really cool prizes. Prizes. Yeah, yeah. So everything every five pounds that you enter, you'll automatically get entered into a raffle. So top ten top ten highest donors will automatically get a goodie bag. Yeah. And then from there I will choose or it will be selected randomly. you could win some Moscow bags. Yeah. Yeah. So we've got Moscow Backs got Wilderness Wheels are offering a full holiday, so three days. Nice. Yeah, so they've got a full holiday in. Contact Patch, company that I've worked with for a lot of guys there. Love, love, love Woody. he's given me ten patches, so yeah, they're up for grabs. Spanish and Jurail trails, they have donated three vouchers of three different values. Yeah. peak mode cycles. he's donated a backpack full of Oxford goodies and I'm not gonna say what's on them 'cause they are so Triumph Chesterfield, I have to have a huge shout out to Dan Hunt there. He's gone above and beyond and you've got goodies from them and a day on their Triumphs on their on their Enjura bikes. Lovely. Yeah, so that's an awesome prize. Adventure Spec have donated a super shirt. Yeah, the good guys. The guys. So many. film festival ticket, adventure motorcycle. So they've donated a ticket to there. That is a brilliant event. I think we're going next year, actually. Yeah. Yeah, we we went for the first one last year and it was just it was a perfect indoor winter event. It was so so good. We've just got to make our film and submit it. what's it gonna be about? I can't tell you. It's a top secret. 'Cause I might win. You want the panel on, yeah? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. a bike thing. The bike thing are doing two things. So they've donated an X5, 360 X5. Yeah. But they are also running their own raffle at the moment. They're raffling off a GS1300 with 10 grand worth of upgrades. Just calm down, Andy. Just calm down. You can enter that there. they will then make a donation to two charities. So they've got a primary charity and then my pots. is their second charity. So they are also going to make a donation. Super. So please enter theirs and please enter mine. and So by Collective they are doing me an article on their page as well to help them out. and Rally Raid, they have gone and made me a lowering link for the yeah, for the for the Triumph four fifteen that I'll be writing. Well I do think we'll be donating some Pro subscriptions. No way. Yeah. well obviously you obviously you come on the show, not only do you get a a special mug that's that hasn't got alcohol in it, stickers. Stickers, but no, we'll we'll definitely donate a year's which is worth seventy pounds for donate a few of Yeah, absolutely. I was I'm just overwhelmed with how many prizes people have gotten involved. I I sort of cast my net quite wide expecting so many no's and Yeah, it's just so lovely. No, we'll we'll we'll confirm that and we can put that in the socials and we'll confirm what we're gonna do. I've got to talk to producer Tom, you know, 'cause Yeah. Man in charge. Man in charge. He just bosses me around. Honestly it's ridiculous. But no, we'll defin we'll definitely do that. support you where where we can. But I think I think what you're doing is absolutely fantastic. I think that, you know, getting to know you, obviously we met you in ABR and and hearing your story and certainly when you you sent through 'cause we always ask our guests some questions and I know I I need a coffee to what to read all of this. I was like But when you start to understand Yeah what you're actually living with and then you you're about to go on this, I mean, you know, I'm I'm feeling a bit like I need to I need to pull myself together and go and do some challenges. You know? It's just but massive respect here, honestly, for for for really going I'm sure you'd be fine. I'm sure you'd be fine. It's and it is interesting because I think pots is it's very it's not very mu widely known. Because you're a family member, you've got No, I've got a friend and a friend who she had it and very similar story actually. She developed it when she was at school and it's my it's my my friend's daughter and and nobody believed her. Yeah. Every thought sh you know even my parents didn't it might dad very, very hard working, old fashioned Yeah. Get out of it. Pull yourself together. Yeah. And I so I did. And I think that's potentially I'm grateful in that sense. I think that's where my sense of adventure and determination comes from because no one believed me, crack on. Yeah. And if I wanted to do horses, I had to create the energy to go and do. If I wanted to go ride if I wanted to So it's same same with this. If I want to go do bikes, I'm gonna have to get my ass out of bed and do it. Yeah. Yeah. So you're doing a lot of fitness training and you just talk us through exactly what you're doing. I mean obviously doing the the time on the bikes, which is important. Absolutely. Yeah. what other things are you doing to try and prepare for fitness anybody else is kind of starting to understand that maybe they have something like this as well, you know, obviously they'd be inspired by what you're doing, but what do you do kind of to get your fitness up? Cycling has been the one thing that I have one been able to enjoy and do. I haven't I haven't done enough of any of it. I don't want to turn around and be yes, I've been in the gym every single day. Yeah, yeah. but I do have a physical job. So I d I do probably twenty to thirty thousand steps a day just at work. Yeah. So base fitness I probably think is okay. So Where I have found so where I find I my weakness is you were saying about standing up and you felt quite tired the next day and you felt it. With my hypermobility, standing in a neutral position is quite exhausting for me. Right. Whereas for Joe Bloggs, they could probably stand there all day. Whereas my muscles tend to work naturally so much harder to maintain just sitting in this chair. So that's why I end up fidgeting and changing position because just sitting is quite tiring and Even having a backpack on will just sit on my shoulders just enough to cause me a bit of an ache because it's pulling on my connective tissue and my muscles are having to work a little bit harder. So I'm actually gonna go out with my Moscow bags and not have a backpack. Things like that. So it's a lot of physio, yeah. A lot of not yoga as such or or Pilates as such, but core strength. trying to build the the muscles around my connective tissue basically and yeah stamina in that sense because it's I do just get tired. Even having my helmet on for a long period and being like the back of my neck is is is is exhausted. Yeah. Yeah. So obviously you've got quite a story there. I mean what made you decide to sort of, you know sort of you know, we were talking earlier, weren't we? Don't we don't call people influencers anymore, you know, Instagrammers or wannabes. Content creators. Content creators. Yeah. What made you know, what what want what made you want to share your story and obviously Well I originally I didn't want to annoy my horsey friends with my bike stuff. Yeah. I just thought they're not gonna be bothered about this in the slightest. and I made it while we're in that first trip in Spain. I made it there 'cause we took some really cool photos and some amazing news and saw some amazing roads. So just created it there for friends and family and didn't stop posting from there. I think that's usually most people's stories, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And you've got quite a few followers now, so something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And and the name foot pegs. Because where'd that come from? Yeah. Yeah. I kept we used to kept getting screamed at when I was learning to ride off road. Feet on your foot pegs. And in the end it was just like foot pegs. Because I would just love to dangle my feet and put my foot and paddle around because I was terrible at it. So yeah, and I also I was umming an R in you know got such and such rides, such and such do catty, such and such. And I thought, I don't know if I want to be labelled as something on a bike or this, that and the other. And I'll always I'll wr I'll drop anything. I'm not biased. Yeah. I'll happily drop any bike. So I thought right, well that'll do. Yeah, she's not going on our bikes. No, no, I've I've been banned from Yam Yamaha. Because I dropped a an XSR nine hundred. Yeah. So what are you currently riding? T T R two fifty. You are still yeah, okay. You are still on that one. Yeah. But not for long. not for long. I nearly I we turned back there. Why? What She's we call her the Mighty Tractor because she makes me look so much better than I am. You can stick her in first gear and she will drive up a brick wall. She is that good. but she is twenty years old and she i is hard to get parts and I do ride her to the point now where I think I could do with something a bit sharper, a bit nimbler, a bit lighter. and I've blown the shock twice on it now, so I've had to buy a new shock, a modern shock for it, and I thought, well, I think I think now's the time to to hang up her hang up her foot pegs and and look for something a bit snazzier. I always said I wouldn't sell her. Always said this, but I think the motor trader, my dad in me, is like, nope, time for an upgrade. Time for an upgrade. So obviously with the shotgun changed a couple of times now, are you doing all the mi are you guys doing the maintenance on the bike as well? Adam is my mechanic. No, no. So I d yeah. He's he's my guru a hundred I I I try and do everything. I'm very doubtful, I doubt myself, and he'll correct me or make sure he definitely everything's talked properly. you know, is very making sure we're safe and everything's done properly. But I love to tinker with my bike. I I think from the horse background, training horses and getting the best out of them comes from feel and understanding why something is is or isn't working the way it is. And you can tweak things and tinker things to get the best out of them. And I think I've taken that into my biking with s the setup, with suspension with changing the fore coil, you know, all kinds of different things and the tweaking the carb and putting air filters on. I love it. So you so if you're throwing your eye out there at this moment in time to try and look at alternatives, are we getting past Yamaha? We might be getting past Yamaha, I know. I said this I said I'd never look at another bike. I'd never or never look at another brand. But I know I yeah. Anything you'd Do you know what there's so I think we're so fortunate at the minute to have such choice on adventure and enduro bikes. There is there we're in abundance and I I'd love to try a few more actually 'cause I think feel is really is big for me. looks is obviously a big factor. But for me feel is really huge. I like something that feels very light. I like I love a light clutch. I like something that's not snatchy and s you know Yeah. Not sure whether I'd love ride by wire. I like the old, but we'll see. so yeah. I think feel is is is gonna be a huge factor and I I can't wait to sit on plenty of. So but you you're going somewhere tomorrow, aren't you, to try a couple of bikes? Yeah, we're gonna nip to Motorrad Connection. Yeah, I I am I am a classic person. I love classic stuff, does always had classic cars. so yeah, I I'm excited to have a look at all the old stuff as well. Will you be looking at anything in particular? 'Cause you know, we've done a few more Govy jobs on the side apparently. So a few more a few quid in your back pocket. Are you looking for something new or we've just bought a house? Which you are gonna have to reware. No, no, no. Yeah, no. He said he'd n you said you'd never change your world ride. You might have something else, but I'm so used to it, I like it. Just it's almost autopilot riding it now. Even off road. You get you're so used to something and so comfortable on something. I there's more fun stuff out there. Yeah, lighter stuff that's way more fun in certain conditions, but it's so predictable but still you can do so much with it at the same time. Once you get used to it, it's I can go and ride it and not have to think about the bike ninety percent of the time until it falls over and it's really heavy. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just thinking obviously you're going on your road trip tomorrow and you're gonna go to the dealership. Yeah. I know you'll also be passing another dealership which won't well possibly you might be Which is in Thirsk. Cheesdale Motors. Do you know? And that is literally a few hundred metres off the A nineteen. Yes. You'd go one way to go to York and go to Maltonway. Yeah. And the other way to go to into Thirsk itself. And you don't have to go into the town centre. It is literally a few hundred meters away from and they've got KTM, they've got CF Motor, they've got sports bikes, which I get all thinking about. Sorry about that. but Motor Goodsey. Yeah, they've got Mortar Goodsey and stuff like So Muscavana. so it might be you could go maybe go a couple of dealerships tomorrow. Do you walk in and click all the bright levers? No. Do not? Yeah. I love it. I always look for a clutch. Yeah. Yeah. I always look for a clutch because I know there's this thing. I I don't know particularly about the Enduro world, but I know from a sports bike there's more I've gone to Well start vague of obviously that has no clutch. Yeah. Yeah, all the electric bites don't have clutches. Yeah, and and that is yeah. I I've got a bit of a O C D thing about reaching for a clutch. so yeah, we do all have a little volubles don't we walk around what I'm gonna you know. And he likes to press buttons by the way. And he does. we do. We do. We talk about bikes still. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's a button, whoa Almost wasn't pressed by that. Funny story actually, when Adam and I first met, he I picked him up drunk. I think we've been at the pub, haven't we? And he were can I have a lift home? I was Yes, that's fine. So I dropped his brother off and you were a bit further away and he pressed every single button on the dash. You said I like to remember it. I don't even know this guy and he's like touching all the buttons in the car. And then trying to explain it the next day and he went, He did what to you? Remember it's a family short, keep it clean. So you mentioned earlier on about the Morocco trip. It's gonna be on the Triumph. Yes, Triumph four fifty. So are they spot are they're sponsoring it or is that No, so Wilderness Wheels have a whole new fleet of Triumph bikes. Yeah, so that's comes as standard, yeah. Yeah, so Triumph Chesterfield and Triumph Bikes aren't related in that sense. Triumph Chesterfield is a dealership that I pretty much grew up in, Dad and I would go round and on bikes and there's Harley round the corner and that we just used to go to CMC and things like that, just film Major Cycle. And coincidentally a fr and now friend Dan works there and has set you guys up some really cool prizes because I've begged and borrowed. and turns out I went to school with him. Didn't realise what a small world. Yeah, yeah. Also, and that's what triumph is that gonna be? You did say earlier on, didn't you? What triumph it is you're riding in Morocco? Is it X F C is it? It's an Enduro bike. Four fifty. Yeah, I'm not sure the exact one. Yeah. we'll look that we'll look that one up. Yeah. it'll be fun, whatever it is. And it's fun because it's not your own bike getting and it gets yeah, it gets serviced every night for me. Get to give it back at the end. Broken. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And if it is broken someone will repair it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Hisham specifically. He's a legend. He works for Wilderness Wheels and is a whiz mechanic. Yeah. And did you me mention that you know Robbie? Yes. Yeah. through social media and f followed him through his Dakar and sent him some encouraging words when he hurt his back and get fucked and get on with What what silly boy? Yeah, we're do we're doing something for for one of his well for Robbie, for one of the sponsors that sponsored him for which is Broomhill, isn't it? I know Robbie's asked us to go and support that event. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we're we're gonna well that day we're actually in Yamaha. At Blackburn, whatever wheels. Luke, we're coming we're coming to see you on the morning on holiday. Yeah well Yamaha. Yeah man well come to that. Yeah. Come to that. Whatever wheels of Blackburn. Get some dates. It's an open day. It's an open day. Yeah we'll be there. Yeah. Yeah. So I had an opportunity to ride the Tenera, the seven hundred Tenere well we we had the so Tom and I as and Scott as well. We had an opportunity to ride. we had the Tracer GT, which is the one with all the luggage and everything on the back. We had the MT07, clutchless. Weird. Just me, because I was doing that. And the Teneray. You nearly dropped that as well, didn't you? Did you love the Tenore? See, I really love the MT07 engine and I steal Adam's bike quite a lot. If we stop at gates and we obviously there's a bit of a raw like One person stops, opens it, next person gets off and the next person closes it. And so I've regularly just ridden off on his bike. And it's all right until she needs to stop. Yeah. And I'm like, catch me, catch me. I love it. I love I I so hope and pray that Yamaha bring out a baby tender A or of some some smaller adventure bike. because I do love the I do love the T seven engine. I think Telassa said that, didn't poly Talassis. Really, if she could have any bike, she would want that but a smaller. Yeah. Interesting. And Itchy's riding a tener as well. Itchy still riding as Is that the old one? Yeah. Yeah. Itchy's still riding as well, isn't she? I'm gonna ask both of you this question as well, these questions as well, and we'll we'll split the questions up between the three of us. so I'm gonna ask the pair of you, you know, and I'll ask Adam first. If money was no object, what motorcycle would you buy? giving more time to think about it. That's cheating. I'd have a full Dakar bike. yeah. Yeah. Like a factory level what KTM something. Something, yeah, but a full factory level bike to actually push its limits and now it's not gonna fall apart underneath you kind of feeling. Yeah. and I hadn't realized I was I was talking to Robbie, our mutual friend, I was talking to Robbie about that one day and he was saying And and you'll realize these are a quick fire because I'll deviate away. And so apologies about that. But single cylinder, you can't have the twin cylinders and stuff like that. So 'cause I was talking about other bikes and he now it's got to be four fifty single cylinder and and things like that. And that's a factory and obviously the KTMs will sell you a factory piece of kit, whereas other manufacturers may not necessarily do that. But I think you'll see cove tomorrow, won't you? I would imagine. Yeah. Yeah. I love the cove. Yeah. I think it looks stunning. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well the the question over to you then. I'd go for something old and classic. I think probably a wise one two five nineteen eighty little two stroke. Yeah. Because I how much fun you I I think you can have fun on any bike. Especially one that you can ride to its limit. I think for me that's fun. I don't think it's fun riding a bike that you can't get on top of fifty percent of it and you're constantly a little bit wary of it. So I think I'd go for something small small Pokey, something like that. I'm I'm I I smiled quite a lot through that because you said old and classic and then talk about the eighties. So I remember them coming out. I was riding bikes at that point, so shows you how old and well I'll call myself classic that would be. Go on over to you guys. So who's your motorcycling hero? I think anyone that gets on their bike and goes out And enjoys themselves. I think it takes a lot for someone to go and do their licence. and to go and do something for themselves. I think it's great mentally. if I w had to choose somebody, probably Jane Daniels, she completed the Dakar. Right. she's a farmer. She's a girl. Yeah she rode the Dakar. What more what more do you need to know? You know? What was a time? No, no, no. And and you said earlier as well that your brother and your dad were both really into engines, anything. And did they both ride bikes as well? Absolutely, they did, yes. Did they still ride bikes? So my brother doesn't anymore. he settled down with children. He's got it's a period we all go through, but it comes back. It comes back. It comes back. and yeah, so dad rode all the time when I was a child, had many bikes. The last The first bike I sat on was a VFR eight hundred, a fact anniversary, fiftieth anniversary. Which he I got a text today saying he sold it, but it was technically mine for my birthday. Shame on you. So he he I think he's had a few beers and he found found one exactly the same, thirty thousand miles on it, cleanest thing you've ever seen. Someone that it lived in a garage bought it and was like, but I might bought you this for your birthday. It was your first bike you sat on, etcetera. And I did get a text today saying, bike's sold. Make a trader through and through. It'll never say no to a good price. Yeah. Thanks, Dad. Yeah. So and he it was really special actually because we got it. It obviously been sat for a long time. The fuel pump had gone. So we put a new fuel pump in it. Still didn't work. Changed the plugs on it, got the got it going. And I rode it from my house where I am now, back down to him. And rode it myself all the way back back down to him. So that was a real special moment that that bike had taken me from pillion to riding it to him. He he got to ride it and he's like, this is bloody horrible clutch on this always like Yes like Yes, Dad's clutch yeah, it's not an adjustable clutch. I thought it's it's so firm I was like, Yes, Dad, well you're not you know you're not yes, it's gone. What was the second here for you? Just just well 'cause you are you are obviously you're here, you and Grew up going to Donington World Street bike early nineties, so Carl Fogarty. Uh-huh. Would be my original like bike hero. kind of who I was watching when I was a kid. Yeah. and Donington's such a wonderful truck, isn't it? It's literally ten minutes from us. Yeah, it's it's wonderful. We can hear it when we're working on bikes at home, can't we? If the wind's blowing the right way, we can hear it. Yeah, wonderful track. Yeah. Right, I'm gonna ask the next question. we always have a few variety of questions, but actually I want to know where's your favourite place to ride? Have you got a particular route or or ride that you love? Spain has a really close part, is very close to my heart 'cause my mum's Spanish. Okay. So I feel quite at home in Spain. And I fell in love with it even more when recently well no, not recently, two years ago now. eighteen months ago now we went and did the Picos Mountains, off road, loaded up and no plan. Just had a ferry. and we rode until we were tired and found a re found a hotel. And the food we found because we're in the middle of nowhere, it was grandma's cooking and it was just beautiful food. Simple, basic, so flavoursome, they know how to cook out there. so Spain has a really It it has me. anywhere in Spain my family still live out there. I s like to go ride the south and try and do the graffi desert. but I think Morocco for its vast open space, you can ride all day without finding a road. And it it is really cool. The it's just stunning. We're gonna end up in Rocco, aren't we? We are, we are. And there's me thinking you're gonna say the A sixty four, but you know Yeah. Tamworth to Donington. Adam yourself. Very similar really. Yeah. like Anna says, the vastness of Morocco is you can ride endlessly without feeling that you're even you're past villages but you only pass them. You don't have to go on the road through them if you don't want to. and I think the fact that you can ride for two hundred kilometers in one direction and probably not even see anyone. See, I'll get I'll get very nervous about that. Well, fuel, we stop. Do you not wild wee? What? Do you not have a wild wee? A wild wee. Yeah. Mm. I'll find a bush. If I can find a bush. Has Morocco got bushes? Actually. Yeah, they're really hard then. They're like they're called argan oil bushes. And they are really bloody firm. They look like really sparse. right. Until and you hit them and they are not soft at all. Yeah, you're not selling it to me. And is that a bush or a rock? Yeah. You're you're very good at having wild wheeze, aren't you? Yeah. I don't tend to get off the bike when I'm having one of those, though, do I? Once he breaks the seal, it's like every couple of miles. just yeah. Throw it over your shoulder. Drop drop still. If only Anna, if only. I hope we're riding my mention. there is some footage of somebody Well I won't go there. no, don't go there. Yeah, I won't go there. Well I guess say is remember you've got a helmet cam on when you're having a day. that's Alex Platteric. Yeah. When we're going back through footage, I'm like, there's your thumb. It's not your thumb, is it? It's his little finger. Yeah, so yeah, there is some footage of that and yeah, a helmet cam. In Wales. In Wales. Yeah. Yeah. I saved it as a screensaver once, so when he opened his phone it was just his little finger. Yeah. anyway, back to the show. So last couple of questions and I'm really interested. Obviously you're gonna go looking at some motorcycles tomorrow, but you'd be in somewhere where there's accessories. And I'm sure obviously you've got you're buying this new house, but I'm there's always a few pounds put to one side to buy new bits of kit. So what would you buy if you've got a few spare pounds? I actually need some new trousers. Yeah. I do, but I mean it's shopping. What do you what in autumn? I will I'll I'll spend anyone's money. Yeah. So trousers for you. Definitely need some new yeah, I'm gonna go get some Revit trousers, for sure. 'cause I've worn through the knees on my old ones. So yeah, Revit is my number one go to. Cool. Adam? Helmets. Here we go, right? You didn't have too many helmets. See all the boys all the time. Any particular brand? I've I started with Arai for years. and then I didn't get on with the new Tor helmet shape. It hurt my head. So I moved to Liat and I've been Lyat for three, two years. Yeah. I've tried running the Liat on them, they're really nice, aren't they? They're lovely. Yeah, nice things, yeah. Much lighter as well than the RI. Yeah. and yeah, riding in it for ten hours a day sometimes is still comfy. Can I ask you both about the about your helmets? Are you riding them without the visor and just with goggles or is it a visors? Normally. I've mine's the Leah Adventure one. But I take the visor off most of time. Yeah. but if I'm just riding on the road to somewhere and it's a long day I'll put the visor back on. Visor back on? Yeah, just for comfort. Yeah. At least get some air. Mine's not got a visor. Mine's a full medcross helmet. So mine's primarily yeah, goggles or squinting. Alright. Is that because of the sun? Just the shit in your eyes. yeah, mountains or coast. What would you prefer? Mountains or coast? I think it's a tricky one, isn't it? Yeah, it is because riding on the actual beach at something like a hundred and twenty kilometres an hour, flat out, is something you have to do. And it's just phenomenal. What on my thirteen hundred RS. I don't know what whatever you want, babe. Just plug the galaxy straight under. Yeah. Just it was just phenomenal. The three of us side by side, weren't we? Just flat out. Top gear. Flat out was just incredible. We did a sunrise ride down the beach to go w breakfast wasn't till nine. So we jumped out of the hotel at quarter past eight, I think it was, did twenty kilometres down the beach one way, turned round and came straight back the other way. You've really been looking at that was the next question. Sunrise or night ride. Wow. I love a sunset. Yeah, I love a sunset. On the motorbike on the beach. Anywhere. Just anywhere. Wow. Love a sunset. I think we need to wrap up. Or is that the cat? No. We just yeah. Tomla Producers has been doing that, so I think we need to six hours. Yeah, well why don't we give tell us about your gear. Well it it was more I think on women's gear. Yes. So a good friend of the show, Linda Jean Belvedere, was we were chatting today about making trying to make c clothing for women that actually fits women and is made specifically. You you were talking earlier. Yeah, absolutely. Because at the end of the day someone needs to front that cost to start with and that Stuff needs purchasing testing. Yeah. And it is such a huge cost to get something off the ground. I have tried women's gear. I ride in men's gear, actually. I mean for off-roading, I don't need something that's so tight fitting. I know I've got tits. I don't need other people to know I've got very sweet. Right now. No now hopefully nobody really heard that. It's quite warm in here, girls. It is a bit warm. We need to get some air conditioning installed. I I don't particularly mind I mean also no one really wants pink gear. So what is women's gear other than really tight fitting? So you know, I d I don't really mind what I look I don't I don't mind in that sense. but I like that a lot of the brands, particularly Revit and Adventure Spec have altered Yeah. Their sizing so that it accommod accommodates more people. Not just not just women at the end of the day people. because men do come in variety of sizes. We do, we do. Yeah. I mean you know, I get sweaty, Yeah, do you? Yeah, I'm glad you do. Do you wear children's leathers though? Yeah, yeah. I you don't have to be VOT. No, exactly. Exactly. Did you say that? Yeah. You want to take the Piss House? That's a brand that you like as well, isn't it? You like Revit's. I like Revit, yeah. Yeah. I've got yeah, my my textiles are Revit. Yeah. So Yeah, you you have a jacket that's four years old, I think. No, I no, longer than that, you it waver. Five years older. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not got a mark on it and you've crashed in it, you've Done all sorts in it and it's still waterproof. It's still my Revit tr textile trousers are fifteen years old and still brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Yeah, I was chatting to them at ABR and just saying how I I love the fact that they've altered their sizing to to accommodate more people. 'cause at the end of the day, what is women's gear? Yeah. And Revit, if you are listening, I'm willing to try some more gear. And I'll be all. Three of you there straight away then, yeah. Yeah. two men and a lady. Yeah. And a lady. Yeah, absolutely. Well listen, it's been absolutely great to have you here in the studio and it is warm tonight. I do apologize. We we do need to get some air conditioning in. So before we finish, yeah, how can people sponsor you? Mm-hmm. They can go to my just giving page, is a link on my Instagram. Brilliant. And we'll put the link on the bottom of our again, five pounds automatically per ticket will enter you into a raffle and you can win some really cool prizes and the biggest do ten biggest donors will automatically get goodie bags as well. And I think from Instagram it is F dot foot bags. Yeah. Yeah. So just for people to go and search for your socials as well on Instagram, it it's F dot Yeah double O T. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So hopefully you can win some really cool And hopefully I make it to the end of the rally. But stay tuned and find out. Well, we will be following your progress. are you gonna take cameras with you or is it gonna be how how do people follow your progress specific specifically? So we'll try and post as much as we can say. Adam will be with me. I'll probably give him my login and be like, just do what you need to do. that's dangerous, Adam. dear. Yeah, there's there's gonna be quite a few people there, I won't say who, but there's gonna be quite a few people there that are or's have social media. Yep. That you can f follow them. I'm sure we'll all interlink and all update each other and help each other out. Brilliant. brilliant. So yeah, on follow Wilderness Wheels as well, they'll be updating the their socials. They are the crew that we're going through. They are organising it. So yeah. So what day in in December specifically do you leave? We fly out on the twelfth of December and I don't think we ride until the fourteenth. Something like that. And it's five days, did you say? Yes. Yeah, five days. Back in time for Christmas. Yes. No w yeah, we come back on the twenty second, but we are having three days to just do nothing before we come home. lovely. Yeah. Lovely. Yeah, we've booked off work till the twenty eighth. so you're Christmas in Morocco? No, no, we've we've got home, yeah. To the new place. Like Living. Well When are you gonna have time to rewire it? It's just gonna be a fireplace and that's it. That's great at Christmas though, isn't it? Yeah. No, we wish you every success with it. We will be following your journey. absolutely. No, it's been an absolute pleasure. and yeah, so if you're if you've heard tonight, if you want more information about pots and the the that's the one, then you can find out more. Or if you want to drop and a a message and, you know, if you want kind of some advice on how to manage it, if if that's what you've got then then she's absolutely got lots of experience of how to manage that and and Going to Morocco and doing what you're going to be doing, which will be fantastic. So massive thank you tonight for Anna Don't forget to like and subscribe and add a comment as well. so we are going to the green room now. I think we are going to have a couple of those little things that Ryan