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116. Legacies of Mythoss. Who needs an update? Plus Tale of the Crossroads Lore reading and Legions news updates · The Euro Legions Podcast

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  My wallet is sobbing. I can hear it.
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  I can hear it in the hall now. It is breaking down crying.
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  It turns out that Attila the arrogant soul.
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  And so he's got a fake hammer. Oh.
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  A fake. Yeah, whoa.
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  As I say, Dick. Welcome to episode 116 of the
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  Religions podcast. This week we have a lot of fun
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  things and first up we have a story, The story, the tale of
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  the crossroads. So that's going to be fun.
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  We've recorded that and Mal did the voices and I did the sound
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  design and Rich encourages. I send positive vibes, what more
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  can I do? So how we all doing this week?
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  All good. I'm on holiday after this week
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  so oh are you keeping me going? Basically this week, so our next
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  week so. Yeah, work is a they poop show
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  in case any children listening at the moment.
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  So yeah, just looking forward to a week off.
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  Oh, good. And Are you sure then it'll all
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  be cleared up when you get back? Yeah, or.
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  I've got a week off, I can worry about it when I get.
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  Back. Yeah, That's a future riches
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  problem. Exactly.
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  Yeah. And you mail apart from maybe
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  some bad football you watched last night otherwise.
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  I don't recovered to follow football.
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  I don't know what you're talking about.
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  You know what the? Good thing is the season is
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  over. Almost over.
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  Yeah, but I think we might as well write off next season as
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  well at this rate. Moving on, you never know.
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  Yeah, I'm fine. I'm fine.
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  And otherwise, and Rich, you have been going to a huge box of
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  toys this evening, so much so that you were late then.
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  Late. Yeah.
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  And we're recording Thursday night for Friday morning, so you
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  can see how happy I was. I heard that.
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  Yeah, it was my Ruden's response to me when I asked for a 10
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  minute late start. And then he was then he said
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  you've been playing with beeping toys all evening.
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  And I was like, yeah, that's how I lost track of time, because I
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  mean that. Wasn't I was enjoying the
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  pictures you were sending through.
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  There was great chat was like, jeez, we should we should start
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  the podcast early. This is going, you know, this is
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  the vibe here. And then and then he's like, I
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  need you need to feed the fish. And that's no euphemism for
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  anything either. That's not euphemism.
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  No, it's little fish. Throw them in that monster force
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  killer org figure. See how they get on with that?
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  Good they. 'D all die of fright.
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  That's the terrifying looking figure, yes, I received a giant
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  box from our good friend David Williams.
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  David sort of takes in some 3D parts for me and I managed to
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  sneak in their BBTS order in as well this time, so bless him, he
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  sent them all over. It arrived today.
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  Yeah, she spent the first hour after I finished work to play my
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  toys. Excellent.
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  Great. You have Cassia as well that
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  arrived. I do, yes.
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  Your box with Cassia arrived. Yesterday or the day before
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  going to take a trip up to Wales.
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  She is. She's going to North Wales, home
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  of the castles, so there will be lots of castle photographs.
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  If the weather holds, it might get a beach photograph as well,
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  but the weather's not meant to be amazing, so we'll see.
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  Yeah, but you know that it'll be windy, so you might get an hour
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  where where things get OK, but that's great.
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  It's kind of the good thing about having something like that
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  is it kind of forces you to do maybe go to some of the things
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  you haven't been to in a while like those, but over castles or
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  it does places. Yeah, 1 Castle is 10 minutes
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  drive from my mom's house, so if I'm feeling lazy, I'll just go
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  to that one. Let's not, let's not put the
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  name of the castle in there, just in case, you know?
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  Yeah, nobody will know. Yeah.
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  Yeah, if I feel more energetic, there's another 4 massive ones
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  around there as well sort of thing so I can.
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  But I mean, either way you've driven was it 4 hours just to
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  get there in the first place? Indeed, yes, yeah, so oh,
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  actually we're going to we're going to Chester one of the days
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  as well. So they got old medical city
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  walls in Chester so. I was in Chester once years ago
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  and I went to Oz Fest in Milton Keynes on the bus 1998 maybe was
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  the Foo Fighters, Ozzy Osbourne. Black Sabbath was Black Sabbath
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  actually. And we got a bus from Dublin and
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  then down through, you know, Hollywood and all the way down.
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  And we stopped for a couple of hours in Chester for lunch and
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  stuff like that. And so was little little teenage
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  Rocker eating food in Chester. You know what I was doing?
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  The Chester is a really lovely place, my only slight.
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  That's what I remember, yeah. Beautiful.
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  My only slight issue with Chester, and it might not be the
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  case anymore, but certainly when I was growing up it was still
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  legal in Chester to shoot Welshman with a bow.
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  It's one of these ancient laws they've never repealed.
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  So that's my only slight concern with Chester.
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  But we'll you know. So should we?
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  Should we meet Quion and Rich in Chester Mountains?
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  For. I have been considering taking
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  up archery so. Well, you get practicing.
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  There you go, 10. Minutes late for one show and
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  you want to murder? Me.
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  Thank you. I'll distract.
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  Him, the two of them, and and you can.
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  Who are that strongbow ad with the two arrows into this?
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  Yeah, into the some of the best sound effects you really.
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  Felt those old, those old beer ad was a mental.
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  I saw one the other day and it was Sean Bean in some like I
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  remember the lager was and basically the the he was on a
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  plane and the plane started going down.
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  So he just strutted up and landed the plane.
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  He's like, good job, I'm drinking whatever and swigged it
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  back and it's like, wow, OK. I mean, if that helps you land a
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  plane, then there you go. Yeah.
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  Here you go, bastard plane, you can't.
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  Do he didn't get no. I've actually re watching Lord
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  of the Rings at the moment in in between watching sport on
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  television so Sean Bean is quite good in that.
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  Although I can't get Ned Stark out of my head now when I see
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  him in it because it's pretty much the same thing he does
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  nearly. Yeah, I've we've been watching.
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  Oh God, what's it called? BBC Drama.
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  The city is ours. I think it's about Liverpudlia
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  Mob basically and how they go on.
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  And he's like the the sort of patriarch of that sort of thing.
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  Yeah, that's we're three episodes in.
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  It's really really good and highly recommend it.
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  I can't imagine him doing any other accent than his.
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  Own. Oh, he doesn't.
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  Every other character's got he's got his normal accent.
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  No effort at all, mate. Yeah, I seen some wife who just
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  like literally everybody. I mean, his wife is Scottish,
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  yet she's doing a Scouse accent. Why the hell isn't he doing a
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  Scouse accent? What was this one?
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  What was this big TV show in the Sharp Sharp I?
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  Absolutely love that. Yeah, that was good, Yeah.
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  I've watched it since a couple of years ago and it didn't age
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  as well, didn't age as well, but it's still good.
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  It's still good fun. Yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah. But you know, it's old when the
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  only thing you can find on a streaming service and it's the
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  four by three cut, there's no wide screen or anything like
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  that. It's like OK.
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  Yeah, I always check on Amazon to see if there is there was a
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  Blu-ray or remastered version before, you know Michael looking
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  for it on the streaming service then to see because yeah,
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  there's no point watching that crappy old quality really,
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  especially on the new TV. It makes it look worse.
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  I think if you had the old TV, it's terrible then it's kind of
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  it kind of works. But when you look at it on a
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  even a 36 inch new TV which isn't that big would be still
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  looking bad. About 3 years ago I dugout my
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  PlayStation two from the loft and played a PlayStation A world
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  socket touring cars from the original PlayStation to place
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  fine on PlayStation 2 and I used to love it and the graphics are
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  great and on a modern TV it looked awful right?
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  So the point was like I'm not sure if I can play this.
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  It's just blurry. It's just so bad.
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  And right, we're we're pretty much derailed from all the
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  topics so far. So you know, when we need to do
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  quick turn around, this works great.
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  And so let me see what we got here and why don't we pop on the
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  story now people can get into that.
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  So this was a fantastic story that was written for the Legions
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  configures, the already announced ones, the tale of the
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  Crossroads ones. Jeremy wrote it, published it on
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  their website subsequently, I think he did it on his show too.
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  So Mal recorded it last week over the weekend.
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  I picked up that recording then and put some nice sounds over
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  it. Big thanks.
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  Has to go to our patrons because of their support.
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  We can do things like subscribe to a service that allows us to
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  use sound effects and music that's, you know, royalty free
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  and whatever like that. So that's always nice to be able
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  to do rather than to try and scratch around on the parts of
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  the web that you don't want to be looking for free stuff and
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  doing it legit. And yeah, so enjoy that.
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  We'll be back then to talk about the rest of the news and we'll
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  do a little bit of talking about Infinite Legions, which is that
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  basically hopefully replacement for All Stars that may come in
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  the next couple of months and speculate on what figures we
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  think needs to be. Updated Yeah, we miss it like
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  this is dating. Oh, Legacies.
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  Yes, Legacies of Mythos. Sorry.
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  Yeah, we will talk a little bit about Infinite Legions.
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  Yeah, Legacies of Mythos. Sobs doing so well there.
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  Oh well. Anyway, over to the story.
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  Take it away, mouth. The Tale of the Crossroads There
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  is a story told throughout mythos about a mysterious
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  crossroads and those who are brave enough, or perhaps foolish
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  enough, to seek it out. It is unclear whether this tale
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  refers to a specific crossroads or if the exact location of this
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  intersection of pathways is less important than the seekers
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  intent. What is known is that the
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  crossroads are said to be a gateway to what deepest.
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  Desires. Of course, to receive a boon you
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  must do more than find the crossroads and select a path.
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  You must also best the keeper that stands upon the road you
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  have chosen. This is the tale as it was first
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  told to me many years ago. I relate it to you now without
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  prejudice or judgement, and allow you to choose for yourself
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  what you will believe. It is said that there is an
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  ancient place in mythos known as Dufa Thrasene or the Dark
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  Pathways, more commonly referred to simply as the Crossroads.
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  This area does not appear on any map of the realm, and most
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  believe it to be nothing more than a legend passed down since
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  the earliest days of mythos. The Tale of the Crossroads
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  states that finding this hidden place is only the first step of
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  1's journey. Once you have found Du Far
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  Thracine, you must select which path you will walk and which
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  keeper you will face. For one who seeks power, there
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  is the way of the Warrior. Powerful and unforgiving, he
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  must be bested in combat by those who hope to achieve
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  victory in battle and enjoy the spoils of a conqueror.
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  Lose to the warrior and your blood will forever stain the
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  pathways where he stands as a reminder that he who reaches for
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  glory all too often find that this road ends in the dirt.
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  For those whose hearts are softer and who seek the love of
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  another, the path of the nymph should be chosen.
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  Solve her riddles without going mad, and the boon Shaw Grant can
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  win the heart of any you so desire.
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  Fail to escape from the nymphs challenges, however, and you'll
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  forever be in a thrall. As one of her mindlessly
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  besotted followers transformed into a mouse, you'll trail in
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  the nymphs shadow, forever hoping for a glimpse of that
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  which you love but can never have.
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  The Shirelle. This creature does not promise
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  love, but retribution, and those who seek vengeance must walk in
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  her footsteps like a sister. To best the Shirelle, one must
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  master the puzzle she presents. Those who fail do not give their
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  heart to her, but rather their flesh.
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  The trail consumes those she defeats, their souls further
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  tiveted to the unending pain of the monster's existence, while
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  she carries their head in her cage as a warning to others who
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  choose the road of revenge. Finally, the darkest of paths
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  leads to the Revenant. Any who are foolish enough to
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  wish for immortality must face this dreaded apparition.
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  No one knows what horrors await those who tread upon the
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  Revenant's road, for it is said that one who escapes this
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  spirits finds that the immortality they seek is not a
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  gift, but a curse. There is no defeating the
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  Revenant, for death can never be bested.
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  There is an old rhyme that is whispered by those who wish to
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  find the crossroads. It acts as a reminder and
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  perhaps a warning of what they seek.
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  It goes like this. Have you heard the tale of the
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  crossroads and the keeps who stand upon its Isles?
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  They'll grant a boon to those who seek them out, but first you
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  must pass their trials, for choices lie before you.
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  Which Rd. shall you select? Which keeper will you face?
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  Which prize do you wish to collect?
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  Fail to defeat the warrior and your blood shall forever stay in
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  the ground where you fall. If you're able to solve the
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  nymphs riddles, you'll be hopefully lost in a thrall.
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  Lose to the Turell and the games that she constructs with her
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  rage and your soul she will devour while she carries your
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  head inside a cage. Dare to face the Revenant and
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  with your final breath you will realise that immortality is lost
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  to you and there is fate that is truly worse than death.
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  These are the paths before you now.
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  Which Rd. will you choose? Your boon is waiting to be
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  claimed. So long as you do not lose, make
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  your choice, play their games and pray you survive the day.
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  The Keepers are waiting for you now at the place called Duva
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  Thrasene. All right, so there was a story
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  and a lot of fun to put that together.
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  Mel, how do you? I didn't have to do too many
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  edits on that. There was just a couple of lines
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  where you actually just did it again because you weren't happy
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  with it. But they would have been fine,
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  you know, to go on way if we were in if you were in a rush.
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  So that was great, really well done.
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  I liked some of the inflection you did.
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  I really enjoyed it, especially in the in the poem bit at the
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  end. You got that?
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  I tried to give it a bit of a little and a bit of a rhythmic
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  feel to it because yeah, yeah, I think it worked all right.
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  I was quite pleased with it. It's all I did, Definitely,
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  yeah. I enjoyed always things that you
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  noticed if you'd done it yourself, but yeah, I was pretty
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  pleased with it and a great. Time stamps on it, John, Because
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  in my head Mal did like the first one and then sat there for
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  maybe 7 or 8 hours debating himself.
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  Which crossroad path? And then he'd go back to the
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  next one. No, I was very, I was very
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  happy. It was about, I don't, I think
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  the story ended up being about 6:00 or so minutes and I'd say
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  there was an 8, seven or eight, seven or eight good.
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  So very clean. Yeah, I know it is a bit weird
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  recording just on your own now. I'm sure you find that as well.
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  It it's good though, from the sense of you can just sort of do
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  your thing and get into it. You know, you're not worried
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  about anyone watching you in that sense.
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  It's good from that perspective. But yeah, it can be good to have
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  someone else there. To do the feedback straight
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  away, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so we're looking forward to
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  more lore. We'd love to do more of that.
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  And I mean, obviously it's all in the love of promoting the
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  brand and. I think Jeremy's writings
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  getting better and better every time.
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  Everything he writes, he's he's, he's.
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  I did message him to say how good I thought it was.
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  Yeah, previously. Exactly.
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  Yeah. And I mean, as we do it more
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  often as well, I think our stories are getting better and
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  better. I'm learning more about how to
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  put them together nicely. And obviously the more you read
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  into a microphone, it also you just have to get better because
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  it's practice, you know, You know, and cool.
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  So let's let's pick up on Infinite Legions then, because
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  that was teased for coming on the 6th of June.
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  There's going to be a live stream with the Four Horsemen
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  and Mac Mac Dowhee of Onal Design.
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  Or is there AT there? No Dowdy.
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  Yeah, Matt Dowdy of Onal Design. I'm getting old Friday too far
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  away. So that would be I'm sure that
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  would be announced again. You know the lead up.
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  So if you follow the Four Horsemen, you'll definitely see
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  that so. And I just John, sorry, can at
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  this point can I just say how personally disappointed I am
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  with the horsemen that they didn't do it on the 5th of June,
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  which is my birthday? Nope, They can be waiting an
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  extra day so. Thanks for the birthday plans
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  gone. I'm not doing anything.
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  I, you know, we'll see what the family did.
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  Actually, it's, yeah, it's, it's actually coming quite close.
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  June is creeping up on me here. I was going to suggest we start
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  doing a birthday countdown in in the podcast, you know, but we're
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  probably too close to it now to do a proper countdown, you know,
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  and you, you know, you're going to try and be on the show next
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  week, but you're in Wales on 4G. So you know, it could be just me
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  and Mal do you're doing your birthday countdown next week.
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  So. You never know, It's worked
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  before. Well, it's not worked before.
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  So we'll, yeah, we'll see what the 4G gods are thinking.
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  Yeah, exactly. And that we do this video as
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  well. It's just not good for the for
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  the 4G. But we might just replace you
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  with an egg like we did the last time and you can just talk Yeah
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  anyway, so fighting. So this is a glios figure.
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  We see the kind of. A picture that was given to us
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  at Legions Con and put up on the Four Horsemen socials around
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  then as well of the kind of design of this figure.
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  Infinite Legions is where they're using the build system
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  of Mythic Cosmic Figura to make other licensed figures or you
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  know, with in collaboration with the designer of the original
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  figures. So in this case it's match from
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  on our design. I'm not, I'm not so sure it will
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  just be figures as well from the way Jeremy talks about, I think
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  in fact there's a chance it's the other properties that don't
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  have figures as well. I mean, obviously I want to
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  close himself off and can't say loads, although I think we'll
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  learn more about the direction of the line on that date on June
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  6th. But yeah, from things that have
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  been said, I wonder if it'll also include perhaps the first
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  figure we see of certain properties, which would be very
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  cool as well. That would be cool.
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  Yeah, that would be great. I think it's exciting.
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  I mean Jeremy has expressed how excited he is for this whole
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  Infinite Legions thing and there must be a lot of cool stuff in
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  the pipeline for it. You know when we'll see that who
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  knows, but we're definitely going to see some of it already
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  starting on 6th of June. I love this little logo type
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  drawing almost like a faction symbol style.
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  You know, we compared to Mythic and Cosmic with their
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  affiliations and I also well. I am Jeremy said on his show
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  about that logo that Eric initially designed it.
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  So it's, I think it's meant to be the horseman horse head then
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  passed it to Nate to do some work on it and then passed it to
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  Matt. And I forget the name of the guy
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  who Matt works with to do their touch and send it back to Nate
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  to finish it off, finish rendering it all that.
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  And so even the logo is super collaborative, which I thought
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  was really cool. That's really good.
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  Yeah, that is really cool. Here's fighting in his various
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  guises. It's not all of them.
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  GLIAS has like a wiki type thing, you know, if you look it
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  up. Yeah, if you Google it.
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  So there's lots of info. So it really is a kind of a it's
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  got a big cult following. So this is a bunch of different
• 22:32
  versions of fighting. I mean, same basic build on a
• 22:36
  lot of these, but a couple of different colour variations and
• 22:39
  stuff. And then this is another thing I
• 22:45
  found, which was a kind of design sheet, what they call
• 22:50
  that ABB sheet or something for fighting.
• 22:53
  So already a bunch of different colour ways.
• 22:56
  Maybe that's something that they could lean into.
• 22:59
  Yeah, because releasing just one single figure, while cool does
• 23:05
  seem doesn't seem to be you know, they do would figure
• 23:09
  obscure, but that's like an in stock drop, so one for a
• 23:12
  pre-order. It doesn't seem to.
• 23:16
  Yeah, it doesn't seem to doesn't.
• 23:17
  Have the economies of scale, maybe it doesn't, you know, for
• 23:20
  for shipping and stuff for people.
• 23:22
  Maybe by loads of nailed it. Maybe we'll get different
• 23:26
  costumes. Costumes.
• 23:26
  I don't know. I mean, this is not, this is not
• 23:30
  me using any of my intelligence. I literally just did a little
• 23:34
  bit of research on this fight and this is what I found
• 23:37
  interesting, I would say. But yes, it's a.
• 23:41
  Translucent one I guess, which I'm guessing.
• 23:43
  Ah, yeah, that's just like them with the giant fishing rod.
• 23:47
  Oh, there's Mouth and a bunch of other people who are like Malin.
• 23:51
  And so I mean, I like, I like certain translucent figures as
• 23:55
  well. Or I think I'm more in the, you
• 23:58
  know, if it has a translucent head or, you know, stuff like
• 24:01
  that or like, you know, flame effect swords, that kind of
• 24:05
  stuff. I love all that stuff.
• 24:07
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah, there's just a nice
• 24:12
  glamour shot. I think that's another version
• 24:15
  of him there. Is he breakdown seeing that one?
• 24:18
  I think it matches to the blue. It looks like he's going
• 24:20
  backwards. Yeah.
• 24:22
  Yeah, it's standard fired and it's close enough to but yeah,
• 24:27
  moonwalking. So.
• 24:29
  Moonwalking, not break dancing. Well I get break dancing wrong.
• 24:31
  Is he moonwalking? How's, how are these new rich?
• 24:36
  I mean, I'm sure you're interested in seeing what comes
• 24:38
  out with it, but. I'm interested in seeing what's
• 24:40
  there. I mean, the Glios stuff doesn't
• 24:42
  do enough for me to buy any of it.
• 24:43
  I think it's quite cool. But but I mean, yeah, I mean,
• 24:46
  the the the sort of work in progress I showed at Legions Con
• 24:50
  could be very interested, particularly the armor cannon.
• 24:53
  So yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing what's there.
• 24:55
  But like you said, John, there's got to be more than more to get
• 24:57
  people really snagged on it. Yeah, I'm, I'm the same.
• 25:01
  I've gone to the GLIAS area, the last couple of legions can go,
• 25:05
  you know, I've got to find something cooler to pick up and
• 25:07
  I just nothing ever really jumped out at me.
• 25:10
  Maybe I'd missed, I mean, obviously didn't go there first,
• 25:13
  so maybe there was stuff that was all snapped up but just
• 25:18
  didn't. I wasn't drawn down that rabbit
• 25:20
  hole like some other people were.
• 25:23
  No, I mean, the first Legions called me was 20.
• 25:26
  Well, you guys was 22 and I picked up a couple of things for
• 25:29
  another Bristolian collector. He wanted a couple of Masters
• 25:33
  universe glios sort of things. But even at that point, I was
• 25:38
  like, oh, these are OK, but and I was throwing money around at
• 25:40
  that point, yeah, I don't feel the need to get them.
• 25:44
  Yeah, I think if I think that kind of stuff, if you had like a
• 25:47
  trap jaw collection or a tribe clubs collection or something,
• 25:50
  you know, all the different versions, then it would be cool
• 25:52
  to pick up the glass version or if you're super complete on on
• 25:56
  MOTU or whatever they do. Yeah, if they ever did one in in
• 26:00
  like sky warp colors or something, I could be in trouble
• 26:02
  because I've got a bit of sky warp collection.
• 26:05
  And you mail this. This is a pure St.
• 26:08
  Yeah. I mean I actually think I'd be
• 26:10
  quite into Glios if they're a bit more easy to obtain here in
• 26:13
  the UK and price is maybe a bit more than I'm willing to pay for
• 26:19
  them. Although just as an interesting
• 26:22
  fact, there is auk Glios producer who was actually at
• 26:26
  Legions con but I completely missed the glass table last
• 26:29
  year. Angry hedgehog toys and angry
• 26:36
  hedgehog toys. A gentleman by the name of Sam,
• 26:39
  I forget his surname. I do keep meaning to get in
• 26:43
  touch with him to get him on the show because I think that'd be a
• 26:45
  fun little extra show for us to do is chat to him and learn
• 26:48
  about, you know, him and what got him into that.
• 26:52
  But in terms of this. So back to Infinity Legions,
• 26:56
  Infinite Legion. Sorry, I am very excited by this
• 26:59
  line. I mean, this figure, whatever my
• 27:02
  relationship with Glios is, it's another cosmic figure if nothing
• 27:06
  else. Yeah, and you know how much I
• 27:07
  like Cosmic. That's what I'm looking forward
• 27:10
  to, you know I do. Potentially new parts as well
• 27:14
  for cosmic SO. I mean, I do hope paint wise
• 27:18
  it's, it's more than, you know, the way Glios is done, which is
• 27:24
  the kind of straight, you know, flat colour, flat colour, flat
• 27:27
  colour. Like if you look at the logo
• 27:29
  here, that has a bit of texture and I'd like the paint to be
• 27:32
  more on that style. Yeah.
• 27:36
  Certainly in parts of it. I mean, obviously the helmet
• 27:38
  could be clean, you know, in the shoulder pads or whatever.
• 27:41
  But maybe other parts of the armor could have a little bit
• 27:44
  more paint, weathering, or I don't know how you what you'd
• 27:47
  call it, but a little bit more texture just to make it pop.
• 27:54
  Yeah, very interesting to see what they do.
• 27:56
  And I think moving forward, again, based on this, could see
• 28:00
  us getting mythics verse style figures, cosmic style figures,
• 28:06
  you know, any other things that maybe don't fit into cosmics and
• 28:11
  mythics. So it's another fun, yeah,
• 28:14
  exciting line. That'll be, you know, I think
• 28:17
  we'll definitely cover this June, the 6th announcement, you
• 28:21
  know, it'll be in that week's show or the next show after
• 28:24
  that. We'll definitely talk about it
• 28:26
  in detail. And yeah, what will be super
• 28:29
  exciting after that is to find out the direction of the next
• 28:32
  couple of those and what that might open up for us.
• 28:36
  Because it seems to me like, you know, there are going to do new
• 28:40
  parts for this. So, you know, it'll be on the
• 28:43
  build. So maybe maybe like stuff like
• 28:45
  the torsos, the the legs, arms, they might be from the the
• 28:51
  system, but things like heads and maybe specific armor or
• 28:55
  whatever that'll be really sculpted.
• 28:58
  Yeah. Yeah, he's got a bunch of stuff
• 29:00
  there that that we we don't have already.
• 29:03
  So that is the exciting thing. So it's it's a step beyond just
• 29:07
  the tribute figures where they, you know, really don't read,
• 29:12
  don't sculpt parts for so and then of course, working with the
• 29:18
  person that holds the license or that you know, is behind the
• 29:21
  line, that makes it kind of the extra mile really, doesn't it?
• 29:29
  Very cool. All Star 6, all insurance are
• 29:32
  shipping. Mine is arriving, would you
• 29:35
  believe tomorrow because I know that on a couple of pre-orders,
• 29:39
  I remember it was like the priority shipping was like a
• 29:41
  dollar more than like the regular shipping and the
• 29:45
  priority is like 2 day shipping. So this must have been one of
• 29:48
  those because I got the shipping notice yesterday and then it's
• 29:52
  Friday. It's like whoa.
• 29:55
  So that's going to be exciting. And Mazda think yours is
• 29:58
  arriving on Tuesdays. Due Tuesday, although it left
• 30:01
  Newark today, so. OK, could be Tuesday, latest
• 30:07
  Tuesday. So we we might be able to talk a
• 30:09
  little bit next week about those in hand.
• 30:13
  You know that that'll hedge US against Rich is bad connection
• 30:15
  because you know he'll only be just swearing at us anyway.
• 30:18
  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, like you said.
• 30:20
  What? No, I didn't quite catch it.
• 30:24
  So we we might have a we might have a fourth person on to in
• 30:27
  case Rich really connection doesn't work out.
• 30:30
  And if it does, then great. We have four people, but someone
• 30:34
  else that has it in hand. We'll try and see who we can
• 30:36
  find among our buddies. So it looks great so far.
• 30:41
  Some pictures going up in the group.
• 30:43
  It's really good. So a couple scally bones, but he
• 30:47
  looks great. Sir Enoch, Sir Enoch on Deacon.
• 30:52
  And then we had Mr. Gerard last night on his show doing flying.
• 30:58
  This was so cool. Flying skeleton, winged skeleton
• 31:02
  monkeys. This monkey gorilla.
• 31:05
  What do we call it? A monkey?
• 31:06
  Because I think flying monkeys. Yeah.
• 31:10
  So really, really amazing. And this is just a pop and swap.
• 31:16
  So it's the tuberculae. It's a head from the heads pack.
• 31:20
  And that's it. Is it?
• 31:21
  And the wings from the wings the.
• 31:23
  Wings we got back. Yeah, also belt packs some, you
• 31:29
  know, I think somebody posted up yesterday as a Trevor saying we
• 31:33
  got belt packs. I mean, that's going to give you
• 31:36
  so much stuff to mess around with to upgrade your already
• 31:40
  existing figures, so. Yeah, I think that's one thing I
• 31:44
  got from Horseman Direct actually was belt packs.
• 31:46
  Yeah. How quickly does Tupercoli now
• 31:52
  sell out of retailers if it isn't already sold out after
• 31:56
  this? Very quickly, yeah.
• 31:58
  Yeah. And so super exciting for that.
• 32:05
  Well done Jeremy with your sneaky sales tactics there.
• 32:11
  One thing he said, because I watched the first half of his
• 32:13
  show that maybe a little sad is that Sir Ignatius is not as
• 32:17
  similar to the original as I was hoping per lesson, he said.
• 32:20
  So it's not as per lesson lightly and it's like damn it,
• 32:24
  because the pearlescent thing was a big thing.
• 32:25
  Yeah. I mean, I've only I've only got
• 32:26
  one on pre-order at the moment, but I was planning on doing a
• 32:28
  little group of four or five. I'm intrigued.
• 32:30
  Might have to reassess. It although not really seeing
• 32:33
  any pictures of it to say exactly what it looks like, so I
• 32:37
  am intrigued to see what a less pearlescent actually means.
• 32:42
  Yeah, although he did say the gold paint is a much better and
• 32:48
  it. Better be a Mal because you
• 32:50
  weren't happy about that original 1.
• 32:51
  It is awful. The original 1.
• 32:55
  I mean that nicest possible way, but.
• 32:59
  Yeah, So gold better painted overall, probably better
• 33:03
  painted, but maybe not as as Pearl essence.
• 33:07
  So I think Jeremy said he also prefers the more Pearl essence.
• 33:10
  So we can blame who do we blame Chris then?
• 33:16
  But I mean, for me, it's a bit of a shame, but it means I've
• 33:21
  got a reason to keep the old one as well as the new one, so.
• 33:24
  You send us so Mal will have a comparison pick next week for
• 33:27
  us. Yeah, that's what he promises to
• 33:29
  do. That's his prep for the show.
• 33:30
  That's why, yeah. I can do that.
• 33:35
  I can manage that. I also saw that some retailers
• 33:40
  at least Nerd Zoic for sure in the US, we're putting up more
• 33:45
  pre-orders for Ashes Bendor. So a lot of those sold out and
• 33:49
  because I think they did a tighter pre-order window for the
• 33:52
  retailers back when that was about a year ago put up.
• 33:58
  So there was some of those figures that were pre-order sold
• 34:00
  out. And he said that he's had
• 34:03
  another chance to place more pre-orders and was obviously
• 34:07
  promoting that, which makes me think that the Horseman, well, I
• 34:11
  mean, it seems like the Horsemen have opened that up.
• 34:14
  And so I mean, they've obviously lined up their production in a
• 34:19
  certain way that they have a possibility to to do more on
• 34:24
  that particular wave. So.
• 34:25
  They've got a little bit of time slum.
• 34:27
  They could have said the next two things in production of the
• 34:28
  two cosmic waves. Yeah, and the Rising Suns, they
• 34:33
  say well before end of year, so. Did you see the on the, I think
• 34:40
  it was the Four Horsemen Instagram.
• 34:42
  They posted a picture of the sample of scat.
• 34:49
  Yeah, yeah. Really good.
• 34:52
  Really good. Yeah, absolutely.
• 34:55
  Hunkers good. He he's amazing, yeah.
• 35:00
  Strangely didn't post Atlas. Oh no, it's a barbarian so
• 35:02
  nobody wants to see it. Just saying.
• 35:07
  So there he is, there Scapular, look at it, look how detail is.
• 35:12
  And I just noticed the bones in the arms there.
• 35:16
  I hadn't noticed them before. I thought he was fully armored
• 35:19
  for some reason but better I think probably the soft goods,
• 35:22
  maybe cover. Him a bit don't like yeah.
• 35:24
  Yeah. But looking amazing, look at all
• 35:28
  the detail and that armor. I mean, jeez, I don't I don't
• 35:31
  even think I'm going to get extras to customize because
• 35:35
  that's just an awful lot of painting.
• 35:39
  It's too detailed to sculpt those dry brushers dreams.
• 35:47
  We also got a sample of this guy, the one of the figures from
• 35:56
  the story. So this is the revenant, but
• 36:00
  it's the revenant and the warrior are the same figure with
• 36:03
  different parts. So you can see.
• 36:05
  I love how weathered looking this is overall between the
• 36:10
  torso, the armor, the. Is that a various skirt piece
• 36:15
  that's totally different now that they've painted in this
• 36:19
  way, So absolutely love it. The helmet attachments they look
• 36:29
  a bit flat grey, but it might just be the picture.
• 36:33
  I did compare them to the and what was pictured in the
• 36:38
  solicitation and they do look pretty greyish so.
• 36:42
  Because they almost look like they could just be the resin
• 36:44
  printed. Yeah, but maybe they maybe they
• 36:47
  are. A bit.
• 36:47
  Just the light, yeah. But I'm sure they look awesome
• 36:54
  here with us. Yeah, absolutely.
• 36:59
  So a couple more things. Trevor.
• 37:01
  Congratulations to Trevor on his.
• 37:03
  He's now five years working for the Horsemen.
• 37:06
  Trevor Williams 16 shooters. So the amazing pictures that we
• 37:10
  see, for example, this one we're going to talk about next of of
• 37:16
  the legacies of mythos. The the new auto figure figure
• 37:20
  that'll be coming and the calendar behind me here on this
• 37:24
  side. You can just see it there bird
• 37:28
  Luke Skywalker. I think Hot Toys is this month,
• 37:31
  May May the fourth appropriate and May the 25th is I think the
• 37:37
  day the original movie was released.
• 37:40
  So anyway, Congrats to Trevor from all of us here.
• 37:45
  Absolutely, definitely enhanced the the line for us and probably
• 37:51
  helped or definitely have to grow the line.
• 37:53
  Just when pictures of that quality are being shared, when
• 37:58
  the figures are solicited, it can't both help to sell.
• 38:02
  Their booth as well. They've got all those really
• 38:04
  cool blown up version of his pictures of the booth which
• 38:07
  draws people in. Yeah, it does.
• 38:09
  Yeah. Him and the art, of course.
• 38:12
  Then from the book, the book is going to be such a that's going
• 38:16
  to creep up so good. It's going to it's going to be
• 38:19
  so, so good. Yeah, I.
• 38:21
  Just want to get that in and just ignore my family because
• 38:23
  I'm a slow reader so it might take me 3 days.
• 38:24
  Just ignore them for three days. Just sit there reading.
• 38:29
  What's new there? Don't let that secret out.
• 38:35
  You spent too many hours this evening on your phone taking
• 38:39
  pictures of. An hour and a half maybe.
• 38:47
  All right, because I need to get this edited enough.
• 38:50
  Let's move along to our main topic for the day.
• 38:55
  That is a Legacies of mythos. So it's going to do transition
• 39:00
  there. But now let's just get straight
• 39:01
  into it, right? We're going to talk about, I
• 39:06
  think we have 12 figures plus the three and that we think will
• 39:11
  come or do we know they've mentioned we'll, we'll
• 39:14
  definitely be coming in this line.
• 39:16
  So we don't need to speculate too much, maybe just to say what
• 39:20
  we what we'd like to see as upgrades or one or two things.
• 39:24
  Although you see there in the main picture, and this is Otto
• 39:30
  as he is. I also got the little bit from
• 39:32
  the comic because I thought that I don't know if that comic made
• 39:35
  him just look even cooler than the figure.
• 39:38
  It does make him a very cool. So otos obviously coming with
• 39:44
  the serious soft goods upgrade the new armor pieces that we get
• 39:49
  from the Necronominus Knights new head sculpt, which is
• 39:55
  interesting this this axe is that.
• 40:01
  From something that we've already got.
• 40:05
  The body might just be a repaint of the same one used for the
• 40:11
  hammer, The body, the shaft might be that, but then the
• 40:17
  heads different. The axe head is different,
• 40:19
  definitely. Does look a bit more even the
• 40:22
  even the shaft part of it or the handle looks a bit more
• 40:25
  intricate. Maybe something to come with the
• 40:27
  dwarf pack? Yeah, perhaps it is slightly
• 40:30
  different. Yeah, yeah.
• 40:31
  So, but this is the kind of stuff.
• 40:34
  So we know we're going to get new sculpting in this, which is
• 40:37
  is an upgrade already if we look at the other two, Zylon and
• 40:43
  Etheron. So Etheron, obviously everyone
• 40:48
  is very keen to get that book back in the line.
• 40:53
  The bird, they've said that that tooling is gone.
• 40:58
  So this would be an entirely new figure.
• 41:02
  So interesting to see how they do it.
• 41:04
  Which, to be honest, let's face it, would be a good thing,
• 41:06
  because the old birds just don't stand up.
• 41:09
  As cool as they look, they just don't stand up.
• 41:11
  Yeah, they're not the most practical of of figures, are
• 41:14
  they really so and so loner. It's it's a cool figure actually
• 41:25
  but but under appreciated. Yeah.
• 41:29
  Yeah, I struggled a bit with better soft goods for her maybe
• 41:33
  would be the one thing. Yeah, and.
• 41:37
  I think I wonder if we might get, maybe not.
• 41:44
  I was going to say get something a bit more brute scale perhaps,
• 41:48
  but yeah. I think.
• 41:48
  Not these a female brute scale maybe or.
• 41:51
  With these faction leader type figures, you know like Salon and
• 41:55
  now ether on whether they would be bigger, you know as their
• 41:59
  beasts as well. So would make sense for them to
• 42:03
  be slightly bigger scaled. I would did wonder, maybe
• 42:07
  they'll use some of the parts that are used on a S in cosmic
• 42:13
  legions to give a longer limbs. Give her a bit of light that
• 42:16
  way. Oh.
• 42:17
  Yeah, I don't know. We'll see.
• 42:20
  I'm excited about them both, definitely.
• 42:22
  That would work though because you keep the sort of slender
• 42:24
  look but taller, so more imposing now.
• 42:27
  I like that. Do you have a Zylona Rich?
• 42:32
  I sold the Legions con 23. OK.
• 42:36
  And I sold my ether on at Legions con last year.
• 42:40
  So that was because you don't like the figure or because.
• 42:44
  No I just presume both them we get re released at some point.
• 42:46
  So yeah, I gambled and it paid off.
• 42:51
  And you spent it. So what would you most like from
• 42:56
  a new ether on? Personally, I'm not sure if it's
• 43:01
  possible. I'd want wings folded round.
• 43:04
  Oh, that'd be good. Which so I agree I mean.
• 43:09
  Would you settle for sculpted wings that didn't move, but you
• 43:14
  could? I think, I think this, I think
• 43:16
  the the curved round look is important thing.
• 43:19
  So yeah, they're sculpted and don't move.
• 43:20
  That's absolutely fine with me. That would be very cool
• 43:22
  actually. It's just something different
• 43:24
  and something just a bit more imposing.
• 43:26
  So make them a big deluxe and have maybe the normal wings or
• 43:31
  like a normal type wing and these curved round wings.
• 43:35
  Yeah, it's a lot of plastic, but yeah, yes.
• 43:40
  But yeah, we're talking. We're not talking about here
• 43:43
  what we think they'll do. We're talking about what we'd
• 43:45
  like to see. Yeah, so well if.
• 43:47
  We're doing that. Let me jump back to Zyloner as
• 43:49
  well. I'm sure that you remember the
• 43:51
  the horns fighting stance. Yes, yeah.
• 43:55
  Fighting stance, obviously I call back.
• 43:58
  I still want that. Yeah, long time listeners of the
• 44:01
  pockets that must be within the first.
• 44:03
  It's definitely in the 1st 20 episodes that we mentioned.
• 44:06
  Most, but how cool would that be?
• 44:07
  There's just slides their horns back to fight.
• 44:10
  It's just like that, yeah. Right.
• 44:12
  And let's sorry, no horns unless.
• 44:15
  Yeah, we, we really you, you'll be getting a lot of plaudits if
• 44:18
  they do that, even if it was nothing to do with what you
• 44:22
  said. Absolutely all.
• 44:23
  I'll take the credit, don't worry.
• 44:25
  Yeah, you'd be. It'd be worse than his birthday.
• 44:28
  Yeah. I'm sure, I'm sure there's I'm
• 44:32
  sure there's a customizer, third party parts person who could
• 44:35
  could create some horns that do that if the horsemen don't.
• 44:41
  I'm sure they could and I'd buy it everybody.
• 44:43
  So you know, Rachel's eye owner comes out and then crack on.
• 44:48
  Yeah. I think what's also interesting
• 44:49
  with with these, this line is maybe this is where we get
• 44:54
  upgraded weapons, yes, sprinkled into the lines.
• 45:00
  And we have got an upgraded heavens Brandon.
• 45:02
  So I suspect yeah, that won't be with.
• 45:04
  The may we may just get that with the the different a
• 45:09
  different paint job headwise do we have unhelmeted for either
• 45:15
  on. That would be cool.
• 45:18
  That would be. Good would be good.
• 45:19
  I mean, I I really like the armoured one, I have to admit.
• 45:21
  Yeah, yeah, I think it's a warrior sort of thing that works
• 45:23
  well, but you know, 2 heads and have a bad thing.
• 45:27
  And maybe slightly tweaked this colour scheme to have him more
• 45:30
  fitting in with the faction on the armor.
• 45:36
  Oh yeah, yeah. Slightly like that maybe or.
• 45:41
  Else. It wouldn't be.
• 45:42
  Maybe some glues instead of Reds.
• 45:44
  Yeah, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if we
• 45:46
  got more cloth goods, but just the red kind of work because of
• 45:49
  the Templars. So maybe a mix of Blues, whites,
• 45:53
  Reds. What about what wired wired soft
• 45:56
  goods to act as wings? Would that work?
• 45:59
  That might be a lot of work, no? It's a short answer, that one.
• 46:05
  Fair enough. Yeah, Yeah.
• 46:08
  I tell you what I'd like to see when the original releases, they
• 46:10
  had the the sort of hooked feet. It's like the Talon feet rather
• 46:14
  than anything else. I'd like to see hands like that
• 46:17
  Right. So if you use gripping assault,
• 46:19
  they're still talents. You know he we can do some
• 46:21
  serious damage in hand to hand stuff as well.
• 46:25
  I wonder if they'll use the 3.0 somehow when it.
• 46:29
  Comes to Yeah. Yeah, well, there was a long
• 46:33
  wait there, Malik, to do that. A true, True.
• 46:36
  Yeah, True, Yeah. How long have we been waiting
• 46:38
  for Auto? You know we're still still
• 46:41
  waiting. So right, that's those in auto.
• 46:48
  We have an idea again. Upgraded weapons.
• 46:52
  He seems to have an upgraded axe.
• 46:53
  We does have an upgraded axe for sure.
• 46:56
  Yeah. And see what else he comes with
• 46:58
  will be interesting. Which is a good thing because
• 47:00
  that that original axe is terrible.
• 47:03
  What about a helmet auto head like?
• 47:09
  A helmeted one, Yeah, that could, that could work.
• 47:11
  I think you'd have to be something fairly.
• 47:12
  On the helmet maybe, yeah. It has to be something fairly
• 47:15
  ornate because looking at the axe, to me that axe almost
• 47:18
  looked like like an heirloom axe has been handed down to
• 47:22
  whoever's second in charge and wearing the blue sort of thing.
• 47:25
  So maybe some sort of helmet that goes along with that as
• 47:27
  well? I felt like you should have a
• 47:28
  variation of the the lion helmet, maybe in silver or
• 47:35
  something like that, but with his face obviously poking out of
• 47:39
  it. Yeah, maybe you have a smaller
• 47:42
  version of it. I don't know how you do.
• 47:43
  That and then how, yeah, how you deal with the dreads in the
• 47:46
  helmet, yeah, to make it believable.
• 47:48
  But maybe you could just have like a little attachment that
• 47:53
  clips on to the helmet like they did for the skeleton.
• 47:56
  You know that female skeleton has it, one of the arcs has it
• 48:00
  kind of ponytails sticking out the back of the helmet.
• 48:03
  You wouldn't want a ponytail sticking out the back of the,
• 48:05
  would you? If you're in a bat with someone
• 48:06
  grabs that, it's like. OK.
• 48:08
  Are we talking practical, You know?
• 48:10
  We're not so practical, no, because these are these are like
• 48:12
  fantasy stuff. So that's fine.
• 48:13
  I get we're saying that, John. Yeah, yeah.
• 48:15
  Yeah, rule. We're just jealous of his hair.
• 48:20
  I'm jealous of everybody's hair. Umm, OK, let's move on from now
• 48:25
  because we've got to get going. So how we've split these up then
• 48:29
  is into we took four each to kind of expand a bit more and
• 48:34
  then of course we do in the comments.
• 48:35
  So the first four are your formal.
• 48:37
  So we put you to work straight away.
• 48:41
  So what we talked to, what we have here is minor Taurus, and I
• 48:46
  think Mal is more interested in maybe seeing an upgrade
• 48:49
  Hysterian. But I don't know about you,
• 48:52
  Rich, but I felt the whole minor tour book could do with maybe an
• 48:57
  urging. It definitely needs to be
• 48:59
  bigger. I'll let Mal talk.
• 49:00
  But yeah, it needs to be brewed. I touch on this because I
• 49:03
  slightly agree, but slightly disagree based on what they've
• 49:08
  done previous, what we've seen. So it looks like they're not
• 49:12
  going to worry too much about scaling in terms of creatures
• 49:18
  and animals. So, you know, looks like our
• 49:21
  elephant, if we get one, will be brute scale based on whereas
• 49:26
  obviously then Lee Odysseus, because he's a great beast, he's
• 49:30
  a giant lion and lions aren't as big as elephants.
• 49:33
  So I don't think they're worrying too much about scales.
• 49:36
  And of course, why can't you have different sized people
• 49:41
  within, you know, the those races anyway, So I so that's.
• 49:47
  Why I don't want a small mandatory though?
• 49:49
  Well, I think the minor tourism, because these two are main
• 49:53
  characters, I think Asterion and a Taurian could face being brute
• 50:00
  scale. And I have said I think should
• 50:02
  be brute scale, although I don't think necessarily all of the
• 50:05
  minor tours need to be brute scale.
• 50:10
  And then I've said really, honestly, I think their armors
• 50:12
  for the for the characters they are, maybe Taurian needs to be
• 50:19
  have a few more cloth goods and maybe lean a bit more towards
• 50:22
  the the magic side of things, Although I use them as kind of a
• 50:26
  warrior. Do with the Cape, couldn't he?
• 50:28
  Yeah, yeah. If he's going to fit into
• 50:30
  Basilia. That's it at least.
• 50:32
  At least a Cape. Maybe change from those armor
• 50:36
  bits up for more cloth style. All the fabric stuff that the
• 50:40
  brutes. Wouldn't be cool if you had a
• 50:43
  like a real Cape with a big hood that actually you're not sure
• 50:47
  what he is and then he reveals the hood.
• 50:49
  Oh yeah, it looks like little horns.
• 50:51
  Yeah, that'd. Be quite cool.
• 50:55
  God didn't want to put that on. Hang on, hang on.
• 50:58
  Yeah, I got all the horns. OK, we got.
• 51:01
  Two holes in my hood. But yeah, I mean, I particularly
• 51:07
  focused on Asterion because being like, you know, the leader
• 51:11
  of the of Zylon as flock and and actually again, I think you
• 51:16
  could keep him as armoured as he is.
• 51:18
  Again, maybe give him a bit more soft goods cloak or or and maybe
• 51:24
  a tabard type, you know, lower part of the tabard instead of
• 51:29
  the the crotch pieces got. But otherwise keep him very
• 51:33
  similar. It would me, I think, you know,
• 51:37
  it'd be cool to keep the the neck piece that they have, but
• 51:42
  obviously scale that up for brute scale.
• 51:48
  Maybe a furry a furry torso rather than.
• 51:51
  I I'm not sure it needs it, I think.
• 51:54
  I think because because it's part man part.
• 51:56
  Yeah. You know, yeah, I think a non
• 51:59
  furry torso work. I think, I think with the next
• 52:02
  piece you get away. Yeah.
• 52:06
  I think with the neck piece there, you get away without
• 52:08
  having a furry torso. It works.
• 52:10
  If you didn't have the neck piece then yeah, you might want
• 52:12
  fur part way down the torso or something.
• 52:14
  Well, I do think with hysteria and you know, that we maybe need
• 52:17
  something more in them to to make him a bit more earthy and
• 52:21
  grounded in the flock, you know, whether maybe.
• 52:24
  Maybe change his arm a colour to match?
• 52:28
  Perhaps give him leather. Leather parts, yeah.
• 52:33
  Maybe more of the green? That'd be horrendous, man.
• 52:41
  I'm wearing my uncle. Here we go.
• 52:45
  Maybe just a bit of grass flocking on the armor.
• 52:48
  You know he's been going through the woods an.
• 52:52
  Alternate head with loads of hay hanging out, We're going.
• 52:57
  The fields around the Castle of Silver Silverthorne are really,
• 53:01
  really. It would mean me needing more
• 53:05
  brute scale, unless you did stick with giving him the wrist,
• 53:09
  the cloth bands and the cloth. It means they'd have to sculpt
• 53:13
  some brute scale armour parts which probably are going to be
• 53:18
  needed at some point anyway. So yeah.
• 53:20
  And we're demanding now, so we will demand them.
• 53:24
  OK, that's my notorious. I think we're good with that.
• 53:27
  Just. Can I just say, for listeners
• 53:29
  tuning in, though it may have sounded like a David
• 53:31
  Attenborough H documentary, Mouse Mile made clear that lions
• 53:34
  aren't as big as elephants. But it's not.
• 53:37
  It is just a toy show. Just so you're clear.
• 53:40
  Jordan Drun Shaper, right? Jordan So I think again you
• 53:46
  bring him in line with more of the other magic users, less
• 53:54
  armour, more cloth goods, keep the colours, maybe keep his
• 54:01
  gauntlets and his lower shin pieces to give him a bit more of
• 54:04
  a combative feel. But otherwise I think use the
• 54:07
  new or maybe the chest plate piece as well, but use the new
• 54:12
  dwarf cloth arms and legs. Again, give him more of a Cape,
• 54:19
  perhaps with a hood as well. I actually would like to see two
• 54:23
  head sculpts, this one redone with perhaps the new wings.
• 54:28
  Yeah, the helmeted head, sorry. Yeah, the helmeted head with a
• 54:30
  beard, that was. And actually I'd like to see one
• 54:34
  without the helmet as well. A character head, since he is an
• 54:38
  important character, and I do think they've as the lines moved
• 54:43
  on and they're doing more parts, they've been more inclined to do
• 54:46
  unique heads for characters than maybe they were.
• 54:48
  And a big original bushy head hair.
• 54:50
  No more bald or beard. Yes, yes, absolutely.
• 54:53
  Long. Yeah.
• 54:55
  Long hair. That'd be cool, yeah.
• 54:57
  Yeah, Yeah, I tend to agree. I mean, the the most probably
• 55:02
  the most important thing about Jordan is the bright blue
• 55:05
  metallic, yes, I mean the head and all that is obviously
• 55:09
  distinctive, but that's been reused on some other figures.
• 55:12
  But the bright blue metallic. So yeah, I think you can get
• 55:16
  away with the cloth. Good for the upper arms and
• 55:18
  legs, but you have to have still quite.
• 55:20
  Blue, couldn't you say that they blend in?
• 55:22
  But yeah, that's why I say keep the gaunt, the wrist gauntlets
• 55:26
  parts and the shin parts and and I say maybe the chest plate as
• 55:30
  well, just to give him a bit of a battle major something kind of
• 55:33
  feel to him. I know he doesn't say he's a
• 55:35
  battle, but they fight, don't they?
• 55:38
  So, yeah, well. He's got armor so he must be not
• 55:41
  wearing a run for the crack, is he?
• 55:43
  Exactly. What I'd like to see with all
• 55:45
  the magic Staffs too, is a blade at the other end.
• 55:49
  So they're battle mages. So you've got the fancy magic
• 55:52
  Topper, but some sort of spike at the bottom so you can
• 55:54
  actually. Just.
• 55:55
  Impale somebody rather than. They can just flick at the right
• 55:58
  end and yeah. I would also that's that's the
• 56:01
  other thing I did say come and come with some magic effects to
• 56:05
  to add to it. Oh yeah, definitely All the
• 56:08
  pox's magic effects can be reused on Pox's wave.
• 56:12
  Sorry. This wouldn't work at all.
• 56:15
  But in my head I want to see him lift his helmet off and just
• 56:18
  have like a massive big apro. It just pops out and it wouldn't
• 56:23
  work. It might look ridiculous, but
• 56:24
  yeah, I could just imagine. He's just like wedged the helmet
• 56:26
  and just lifts it off and so and it's there sort of thing.
• 56:30
  And he's like Doc Brown from back to the futures, like crazy
• 56:33
  hair going on. And it's like, yeah, it would
• 56:34
  be. Crazy actually how you described
• 56:37
  it like that. I actually like that I do.
• 56:41
  Right, Harris Serpent spurred then.
• 56:44
  She's she's 1. I actually don't think needs a
• 56:47
  lot doing to her. She's a bit of an otho from that
• 56:50
  perspective. Just update things give her the
• 56:53
  new female torso, bare torso, keep the paint as it is, keep
• 57:00
  the the armor parts as they are. Keep I definitely think keep
• 57:05
  that like the bra piece as it is.
• 57:09
  Maybe update it. What what?
• 57:11
  But you know, I think the snakes and all that and I'm guessing
• 57:13
  and a similar thing with the head sculpt.
• 57:15
  Just tweak it a bit to maybe make it a bit more practical.
• 57:19
  I don't know that what what they could do now.
• 57:21
  They could probably put a bit of wire in it to make it a bit more
• 57:26
  flexible. Now we've got the tails and it's
• 57:28
  very similar to that. Otherwise I'd keep a very
• 57:31
  similar, again, more cloth goods.
• 57:33
  That's how you had a lot of, you know, now we're getting much
• 57:38
  more advanced, much better skirt pieces.
• 57:41
  I've doubt, I suspect we'd get that.
• 57:43
  She could probably do with it. She'd perhaps look quite cool
• 57:46
  with almost a coat, sort of with a high collar but no arms kind
• 57:53
  of cloak. That might look quite cool
• 57:58
  because she feels quite regal and, and, and she's obviously a
• 58:01
  leader, isn't she? Within in the convocation.
• 58:04
  So yeah. Yeah, Jonathan, to add there.
• 58:11
  No, I mean, this is a new. This figure is unusual for me in
• 58:13
  that I'm normally not a fan of the the it's like a prude here,
• 58:17
  but the bare female midriffs just a bra look.
• 58:21
  I'm I'm not a fan of that at all, but I think for this
• 58:23
  character works really well. So I wouldn't want to change
• 58:25
  that. It's that intimidating look.
• 58:27
  I got some war paint on. I'm a like a dark priest test or
• 58:31
  whatever sort of thing. Yeah, but I do like the idea.
• 58:34
  Mild suggestion about the coat with the arms free and the big
• 58:37
  collar would give her that more of an imposing look.
• 58:40
  Which I can imagine her kind of doing these whatever rituals in
• 58:45
  front of a massive big bonfire or something, you know, kind of
• 58:49
  with all her followers. That's what I did say is give
• 58:52
  her the, if you're doing the the new female torso, maybe have
• 58:57
  wrists that you can slip over so she can have the bare arms and
• 59:01
  the bare legs. So maybe have wrists and leg
• 59:05
  pieces that you can slip over that are similar to what she's
• 59:09
  already got maybe? Well, you could give us some of
• 59:11
  the more fancy jewellery, like, I mean, obviously different
• 59:13
  sizes, but Ganesha's got all those different like arm
• 59:16
  bracelets and that sort of thing, hasn't he to say?
• 59:18
  Yes, yeah, they look really cool.
• 59:22
  And the stuff needs to fit in her hand, I think.
• 59:24
  It's. Probably helpful with this
• 59:26
  figure. Yeah, well.
• 59:27
  She'll get the new one from Harry Basilia.
• 59:33
  Yeah, Won't she? Because that's what that is.
• 59:36
  So yeah. Ragnar Storm Forger.
• 59:40
  Ragnar so I think she needs a complete revamp.
• 59:44
  I don't I like her she is but based on what Literally 90% of
• 59:49
  the community including her creator thing.
• 59:53
  I think she needs a complete revamp.
• 59:55
  Turn her into a 1.0 female dwarf from.
• 59:59
  The new from the Exiles under the mountain.
• 1:00:02
  Basically reuse a load of those parts.
• 1:00:05
  Actually cloth parts would. I know I seem obsessed with
• 1:00:09
  cloth parts but, and I do like them, but actually the fact that
• 1:00:12
  she hangs around in icy climates, the cloth parts might
• 1:00:17
  make more sense. As if she's trying to keep warm.
• 1:00:20
  I bet we could get a much better fur cloak.
• 1:00:23
  Fur soft goods for her. Keep the colour scheme.
• 1:00:30
  So somehow incorporate that into the new parts.
• 1:00:35
  I definitely think give her the new dwarf, as I talked about the
• 1:00:40
  1.0 ones here, the new dwarf boots we're going to get.
• 1:00:43
  Because I think all of that, that is the one problem you've
• 1:00:47
  got is the boots and the feet. She's got a very gobbling heart
• 1:00:50
  and they that that feels very gobbling.
• 1:00:53
  So give her the new 1.0 dwarf legs and boots and things and,
• 1:00:58
  and all. And then there would obviously
• 1:01:00
  probably need to be new parts. I'd actually like to see 3 heads
• 1:01:04
  with a new version of her. So I'd like the two heads that
• 1:01:07
  they've that we have now, but I'd like to see a non helmeted
• 1:01:17
  head for her as well. With a beard.
• 1:01:21
  It had no, no, no beard. I don't, I don't, I don't like
• 1:01:24
  my female dwarves with beards. So yeah, different to the one
• 1:01:30
  that come, Although they could, I suppose, reuse the one that
• 1:01:34
  comes in the Kings Under the Mountain pack.
• 1:01:36
  But actually, it'd be nice to see her get her her own specific
• 1:01:40
  head sculpt that is her. And she has the ponytail
• 1:01:45
  sticking out the helmet thing here.
• 1:01:46
  So we we have a little clue maybe as to what what's under
• 1:01:50
  the helmet in terms of hair. Yeah.
• 1:01:55
  Rich Anthem to add there, I think I I agree.
• 1:01:58
  I mentioned hair obviously thought a bald female dwarf
• 1:02:00
  could be quite cool, give the men hair and make her bald.
• 1:02:03
  But no. I hate this figure.
• 1:02:07
  They need to change it all. Move on.
• 1:02:12
  Delfina Vitra So this is female Templar.
• 1:02:15
  Nice SO. Another sheet of paper again
• 1:02:17
  guys getting professional now. Yeah, well, we, you know, I
• 1:02:21
  don't want this to go on for too much longer.
• 1:02:23
  So. So I've done it slightly.
• 1:02:27
  Differently to miles. So I've got 2 categories I've
• 1:02:29
  got what's currently wrong with the figure and what improvements
• 1:02:32
  would I make? OK so because I'm always a glass
• 1:02:34
  half empty guy so I've got to say what's wrong.
• 1:02:36
  Shoot, firstly what's wrong? There's 2.0 ankles.
• 1:02:40
  I mean, shit, it's got really basic belts and the shield.
• 1:02:44
  They have been fixed I think. I know, but you know.
• 1:02:49
  And the shield's too big for a 2.0 character.
• 1:02:53
  So that's my negative stuff. Soft goods.
• 1:02:55
  I mean, the temple is going, Sir Elijah and Sir Enoch obviously
• 1:02:58
  got the soft goods. You need soft goods.
• 1:03:00
  I mean, these actually look quite good, but you need soft
• 1:03:02
  goods with her. I'd give her hood as well.
• 1:03:05
  I quite like the idea of her as a temple having that sort of
• 1:03:08
  slightly mysterious element to her.
• 1:03:10
  So like a soft good hood as well to come up over there.
• 1:03:14
  Bio says she grew up in the temple, so I think she'd have
• 1:03:17
  access to quite fancy old armour.
• 1:03:19
  So I'd want some fancy pauldrons.
• 1:03:20
  At the moment she's got really basic ones.
• 1:03:22
  I'd want something with a big eagle or a big cross or
• 1:03:24
  something like that, and a smaller shield, so shaped like
• 1:03:29
  that one, but smaller. But apart from that, I think
• 1:03:35
  she's a really nice figure and I'd keep like the crossbow and
• 1:03:37
  the helmet and everything. I like all that sort of stuff.
• 1:03:42
  We're talking soft goods upgrade here like like Serenoch and.
• 1:03:46
  Yeah, I think it'd be really cool to get female tablets like
• 1:03:52
  we've gotten on the recent night figures.
• 1:03:55
  I think that would be a great improvement and a really cool to
• 1:03:59
  use with the various female armours for sure.
• 1:04:04
  Yeah. I don't.
• 1:04:06
  Yeah, those pauldrons, if you get them slightly, slightly
• 1:04:09
  bigger would be good, wouldn't it?
• 1:04:11
  Bigger and fancier. Yeah, OK, Arzak.
• 1:04:20
  Right then I don't think there's too much necessarily wrong with
• 1:04:23
  this one. I mean it's basic.
• 1:04:24
  Obviously nowadays I think the armour wouldn't.
• 1:04:28
  This is really picky. I mean you've called me a pedant
• 1:04:30
  before now, so I will go down that route.
• 1:04:33
  I don't think he'd have armour leads.
• 1:04:34
  I don't, I don't have armour this dirty.
• 1:04:36
  He'd be ridden through the ranks.
• 1:04:37
  He would have quite better cleaner armour than be be killed
• 1:04:40
  to move up. But it's what are the coolest
• 1:04:42
  things about them if. It was a grunt, yes, but as a
• 1:04:47
  the general, no. And the current head options, I
• 1:04:51
  like the paint on the head, but they're really boring.
• 1:04:54
  So those are the things I don't like.
• 1:04:56
  What improvements did I make? I would make in brute scale, I
• 1:04:59
  think. I mean, I'm happy for some of
• 1:05:01
  the orcs to stay smaller, but I think for an orc that's going to
• 1:05:03
  be a leader and is written through the ranks and
• 1:05:06
  intimidates everybody, then you need that, that bigger build.
• 1:05:09
  Yeah, I like that. Idea.
• 1:05:11
  Yeah, obviously better articulation through the new
• 1:05:14
  parts. So again, that would involve
• 1:05:15
  them making new, yeah, brute scale armoured parts that have
• 1:05:18
  articulation, but that's fine. His bio talks about him having
• 1:05:22
  an high intellect and cunning, so I'd get some sort of fancy
• 1:05:25
  belt on him with like 2, maybe 3 little daggers hidden on it.
• 1:05:29
  So he's like, yes, I'm a big old orc, but if you come at me, I
• 1:05:33
  got all these secret stuff. Based on that, would you
• 1:05:36
  potentially make him look less slightly less orky in the face
• 1:05:42
  if you're doing a new head sculpt?
• 1:05:44
  So you know with the suggestion that the more orkilla you look
• 1:05:47
  the the lower your intellects going to be because you've more
• 1:05:51
  corrupted, Yes. So.
• 1:05:51
  So a sort of more intelligent Ork look.
• 1:05:54
  Then yeah, yeah, like the brow and maybe yeah.
• 1:05:57
  Yeah, yeah. No, I like that definitely.
• 1:06:03
  I would give him a helmeted head.
• 1:06:04
  Like we said before, the characters I think you need, but
• 1:06:06
  you need an helmeted unhelmeted head nowadays.
• 1:06:09
  Like I'd keep the face paint, but some sort of ornate ish
• 1:06:13
  helmeted head would be good. And I'd also the shield.
• 1:06:16
  I really like the pattern on the shield, but obviously it's an
• 1:06:18
  old fashioned shield now so I'd want that sort of design.
• 1:06:21
  But they're like a raised element, like we've seen with
• 1:06:24
  the faction Shields. There, that'd be really cool.
• 1:06:26
  So that. 'D be really good.
• 1:06:27
  So it's like an orc faction shield or that sort of thing.
• 1:06:30
  I would feel cheated as not getting that shield but but this
• 1:06:38
  is. The point where I mentioned I've
• 1:06:39
  got to spare one of those Shields, isn't it?
• 1:06:40
  I'm got those. I can probably on the Shields.
• 1:06:43
  And would it not be the time for Screaming Orchid?
• 1:06:49
  No, because he's in charge. I think I'd go for the calm sort
• 1:06:53
  of look, you know? I'm the boss.
• 1:06:54
  There was a grunt. Yeah.
• 1:06:55
  Are you Cam? He is.
• 1:06:58
  He's brute scale. Doesn't need to be angry.
• 1:07:00
  Everyone's just like me. He's brute scale.
• 1:07:02
  I'm not getting anywhere near. Him, but he's he's shouting them
• 1:07:04
  into battles. He's trying to Rev them up to.
• 1:07:06
  I know. What you mean?
• 1:07:08
  I wouldn't be averse to a shouting head, but I think you
• 1:07:11
  could do with a different orc maybe rather than this guy.
• 1:07:14
  OK, just before we move on, I think we're getting him with
• 1:07:19
  Otho. Yeah, I, I.
• 1:07:21
  Would love it if we did. It would make sense I I don't
• 1:07:24
  think they'll do 2 pack but I always suspected we were talking
• 1:07:28
  about it more around legions con maybe.
• 1:07:30
  But I was always thinking if we had to you know, another 2 pack
• 1:07:35
  like we had the gorgo and Attila then Erzak and Otto would be a
• 1:07:40
  logical one for me. I.
• 1:07:43
  Think I think. So to get them in the first
• 1:07:45
  legacies wave, that would be cool.
• 1:07:49
  I can see them in the book just like and obviously they're in
• 1:07:52
  different armies. You know they're not natural
• 1:07:54
  foes. Obviously, you know, you've got
• 1:07:55
  Etheron versus I know he's ignore me.
• 1:07:58
  He's not Etheron, is he? I'll shut up now.
• 1:08:00
  He's Amelia Disus. I will.
• 1:08:01
  Yeah, he's Neo Disus. Yeah.
• 1:08:03
  Yeah, Malleus. No.
• 1:08:06
  Oh, right then. You're going to have some Dr.
• 1:08:09
  Bys here. OK, what's currently wrong?
• 1:08:15
  Everything compared to the newer skeletons, literally everything.
• 1:08:19
  It's the most boring skeleton you could possibly have.
• 1:08:23
  And this is nothing against horseman, it was the early days.
• 1:08:25
  I totally get it well, but it's so boring the.
• 1:08:28
  Opinions expressed here are all of Rich's own and not those.
• 1:08:33
  I mean, this was voted in an All Stars 4, but that was pre
• 1:08:36
  Necronominus and I think that just shows you the jump that the
• 1:08:40
  line is made in those waves because I don't think we would
• 1:08:44
  have said this about Malleus before that.
• 1:08:46
  No. Also, he looks totally out of
• 1:08:49
  place now with the rest of his siblings.
• 1:08:50
  They're all fancier, even more Glyph and Brother M are fancier
• 1:08:55
  than him sort of thing, so he just looks out of place.
• 1:08:58
  Badly dressed person in the family, no.
• 1:09:01
  Not this badly dressed. This guy's not even tried.
• 1:09:04
  He's just like, you know? Yeah, maybe.
• 1:09:06
  You're basically and those two axes, I just, I don't like those
• 1:09:13
  axes. So that's the other thing I
• 1:09:14
  don't like. So what improvements would I
• 1:09:15
  make? I would want something wrong
• 1:09:19
  with a skull, so like a piece missing from it or maybe a huge
• 1:09:23
  like hesitate to use a wood gash without people giggling, but a
• 1:09:27
  big hole or something in the head in the skull so that, you
• 1:09:32
  know, it looks like it's battle damaged.
• 1:09:33
  I think that would be a good look for the character and
• 1:09:36
  something we don't have generally.
• 1:09:37
  I know we've got the the zombie with a loose skull but or jaw,
• 1:09:40
  but it's something like that. I'd want soft goods with him.
• 1:09:44
  Don't have to go crazy, but you know a couple of things again,
• 1:09:47
  just a time in the siblings who generally are better dressed.
• 1:09:52
  I love the two weapons look, but those axes are shite.
• 1:09:55
  So I would use the Mace that first came with Sir Elijah
• 1:09:58
  because it's got the two different things.
• 1:10:00
  It's got the spike end and it's got the hammer end.
• 1:10:02
  So you could have them turned around.
• 1:10:03
  SO1 spiky 1 hammery and I think that keeps the really
• 1:10:08
  intimidating look of the two weapons.
• 1:10:11
  But you know, there's just a bit of.
• 1:10:13
  Am I going to club you? No, I, I think, I think those
• 1:10:16
  are such gnarly looking weapons. Excuse me if you're using a
• 1:10:18
  teenager term from the 80s, but they are such gnarly looking
• 1:10:22
  weapons That adds the intimidation factor.
• 1:10:26
  And, and I've got another thing for this.
• 1:10:28
  So in his bio he's referred to as judge juror and executioner.
• 1:10:34
  So I'm hanging on that judge slash executioner thing.
• 1:10:39
  And I'm thinking he'd he would come with some sort of scythe.
• 1:10:43
  Oh, I'm coming there Mile, Don't worry.
• 1:10:45
  Some sort of side. There's the execution weapon and
• 1:10:48
  a soft goods execution hood that you can put on so it doesn't
• 1:10:52
  have to come with it. It's not attached to the thing,
• 1:10:54
  but you can just no, it's not a pointed hat.
• 1:10:57
  It's not a pointed hat. We're not going down that route.
• 1:10:59
  But it's just like, you know, So yes, that's what I would do.
• 1:11:04
  Malice. So the malleus bone is that
• 1:11:09
  little bone in, you're in your middle ear.
• 1:11:12
  So maybe if you had the damage on the skull, it could be on the
• 1:11:15
  ear part, you know, like that. And then maybe a little necklace
• 1:11:20
  with the little malleus bone hanging off.
• 1:11:22
  It that would. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:26
  And hear me out here. This might sound a little bit
• 1:11:29
  out there, but because he's named after the ear bone, he's
• 1:11:32
  missing his ears. Therefore, he has two coconuts
• 1:11:35
  on the side of his head do coat half coconut shells.
• 1:11:38
  We did, We did. Stupidest characters ever a
• 1:11:41
  couple of weeks ago. OK, I'll show up.
• 1:11:44
  So the thing, it feels like those two big axes are sort of
• 1:11:50
  part of the figure and the characterisation of this
• 1:11:53
  character. So the thing that whilst it's
• 1:11:57
  pure fantasy and their skeletons, they could be as
• 1:12:00
  strong as you want. The thing that I always think
• 1:12:02
  about him is I want him to be bigger carrying those.
• 1:12:07
  So I'm like, could they do a brute scale skeleton?
• 1:12:11
  Well, because I don't think he needs to be as big as a as a,
• 1:12:16
  you know, as Berardak say he's going to be.
• 1:12:19
  But I do feel like he could just if he would feel better if he
• 1:12:23
  was bigger with those axes. Maybe just the tuberculosis arms
• 1:12:27
  then? Yeah, that'd be quite, quite the
• 1:12:34
  wide strike distance in the fight, wouldn't it?
• 1:12:36
  The ACT belong axe and the long arms.
• 1:12:37
  But there you go. They are particularly.
• 1:12:39
  Going into battle. For the tuberculosis big long
• 1:12:42
  set. Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:12:44
  Pardon me. Maybe put them into his shoulder
• 1:12:47
  or his back attachment, whatever, Wing it up that's.
• 1:12:51
  Not that's not a bad idea. Yeah, give him yeah, extra arms.
• 1:12:55
  And I, I, I vote for even bigger axis, make them even more
• 1:13:00
  ridiculous in my book. That's what I'm looking for, you
• 1:13:02
  know, helicopter and give them four of them.
• 1:13:05
  I wouldn't be averse to those. As long as they're not those
• 1:13:07
  axes, that's fine. Oh yeah, no, just big massive
• 1:13:12
  side type. I don't know.
• 1:13:14
  And right, your last one, Rich orange Steelhide.
• 1:13:18
  Right then what's currently wrong with Orned?
• 1:13:23
  All armour doesn't work for the description.
• 1:13:25
  Like moving swiftly to the trees.
• 1:13:26
  Well, not with that armour on he's not, so that's needs to go.
• 1:13:31
  The head scopes are fearfully boring nowadays compared to the
• 1:13:34
  other stuff we've got. They're not bad sculpts, they're
• 1:13:36
  just boring. And I hate to go there, but that
• 1:13:41
  axe, Seriously. No, he's like going through
• 1:13:44
  trees. You're not going to be carrying
• 1:13:46
  a chuffing great big axe like that.
• 1:13:49
  So what would I do? I would make a.
• 1:13:51
  Little they come with bland, the little side things maybe.
• 1:13:55
  Yeah, maybe. Chopping the foliage.
• 1:13:59
  So I'd I'd make the leg pieces slightly longer so he's
• 1:14:02
  described as taller than normal dwarfs, so however you do that
• 1:14:10
  making that a bit taller. Right.
• 1:14:15
  I would reduce the armour down from the really heavy stuff that
• 1:14:18
  he's got now to a lighter armour, which again would help
• 1:14:21
  skipping through trees. So like leather boots for
• 1:14:24
  instance, rather than the full armour chest that maybe a
• 1:14:28
  breastplate with, you know, so you could have like just you
• 1:14:32
  know, the armour piece there, but there's the the cloth
• 1:14:34
  underneath it. I'd want some sort of emblem
• 1:14:38
  that links his people to the forest, be that like a tree or
• 1:14:41
  something on the breastplate or on a shield that gives him that
• 1:14:45
  sort of thing. I'd want him to have a crossbow.
• 1:14:50
  The forest, you know, screams bows, but I don't I don't want
• 1:14:54
  to be a proper bow because that's the elves.
• 1:14:56
  We don't want to go down that route, but a crossbow we more
• 1:14:59
  the sort of thing a dwarf would go with maybe a repeat a
• 1:15:02
  crossbow if you're getting really fancy, because they're,
• 1:15:04
  you know, obviously quite ingenious.
• 1:15:07
  If he's going to have an axe, it needs to be smaller and
• 1:15:10
  something one hand. I think what the horsemen are
• 1:15:11
  missing is like a proper grim looking one handed axe so
• 1:15:18
  there's lots of bigger. Axes handle, don't they?
• 1:15:22
  That's still not quite right. I'm thinking like really short.
• 1:15:26
  So it's as if you like Thor's hammer, that sort of length sort
• 1:15:29
  of thing. So like really short but with an
• 1:15:32
  axe head on it and then helmeted head.
• 1:15:37
  Definitely needed for him. And I'm not sure why I put this
• 1:15:40
  down, but I'm thinking a big nose, a big nosed dwarf, not
• 1:15:45
  like Rudolph. We're not talking like glowing
• 1:15:46
  or. Anything.
• 1:15:47
  They just do a new character then, you know?
• 1:15:51
  No, this is just this is just tying him in with his bio.
• 1:15:54
  OK. So maybe that guy that played
• 1:15:55
  the actor's name, Adam, somebody that played Kylo Ren.
• 1:16:02
  Oh, driver. That sore nose mean like a good
• 1:16:05
  old, good old conk on him. Steffi Graf, maybe the long
• 1:16:09
  hair. Yeah, that sort of look.
• 1:16:10
  I think that would work with a slightly taller, more elf and
• 1:16:14
  dwarf, sort of. A little, he probably, you say,
• 1:16:16
  not like a red note, but he probably should have a little
• 1:16:19
  bit of a Red Nose for all the drinking he's doing as he's
• 1:16:21
  singing folk songs. And wouldn't be averse to that
• 1:16:24
  Mal at all. Little glow to it, just a little
• 1:16:26
  hint of a pinky glow. Give him a loose.
• 1:16:28
  Give him a loose to play. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:31
  Oh, like that, John. I do like that, yeah.
• 1:16:35
  On a tank. OK, I'm going to need a tanker
• 1:16:38
  to something now, King Bromden. And so as you can see here, King
• 1:16:47
  Bromden is loaded and probably not going to get a version 2 for
• 1:16:51
  a long time I would guess. But I think he's still a Coulomb
• 1:16:54
  because he's such an important character to bring up and CC.
• 1:16:58
  He gets a smaller accent. OK, it is longer than what
• 1:17:04
  you're talking about, Rich, but still.
• 1:17:06
  He's got a hammer, he's got a sword, he's got that cool dwarf
• 1:17:09
  and shield. He's got the helmeted head,
• 1:17:12
  unhelmeted head with the crown. Crown is removable so he can
• 1:17:17
  have the little bald with beard look.
• 1:17:19
  He's got a bunch of fur, so he's pretty loaded.
• 1:17:24
  The book behind is the basic dwarf and book, so I think that
• 1:17:28
  could be upgraded. Maybe the bulky torso, so the
• 1:17:31
  Magnus torso, just to give them a little bit more goof and
• 1:17:38
  better soft goods, I would say. So maybe this kind of First off,
• 1:17:43
  but like this is the trim of the cloak, you know?
• 1:17:47
  Yes, definitely, yeah. Yeah, again, I mean, and it's
• 1:17:50
  kind of what they tried to. It feels like what they were
• 1:17:53
  trying to portray here is again, like I talked about a sleeveless
• 1:17:57
  yeah jacket type cloak for him maybe.
• 1:18:01
  And even though he gets all these cool weapons, I mean I
• 1:18:06
  think he can get the shield, but maybe upgrade the weapons with
• 1:18:10
  the ones from the dwarf, the Exiles under the mountain Dwarf
• 1:18:14
  2 pack, they're just better, cooler.
• 1:18:16
  So I think King Brompton would have them realistically.
• 1:18:22
  And then possibly if they're going to really deluxe him out,
• 1:18:25
  Little throne, it'll die, die around a piece thrown.
• 1:18:30
  Doesn't have to be too fancy, but something to sit on.
• 1:18:34
  He's in the cavern, so it could be just rocks, you know, but
• 1:18:39
  something to that. You could give him a bit of chef
• 1:18:41
  presence, you know, straight out-of-the-box.
• 1:18:45
  So that's King Bromden. Any any further inputs there,
• 1:18:49
  lads? No.
• 1:18:50
  Not much, just why I skipped past him because he's such a
• 1:18:53
  good figure. Anyway, it was like don't change
• 1:18:55
  much. Version 2 already isn't even
• 1:18:57
  just like you say. Soft goods, perhaps, would be
• 1:19:00
  the thing. Yeah, so nice, nice Rich.
• 1:19:04
  Sorry. So.
• 1:19:07
  I'm done it for a couple. I'm in the mic for a couple of
• 1:19:09
  weeks at least. It's like now every time you put
• 1:19:11
  the glass to the table it makes noise as well, so I've given up.
• 1:19:14
  I tried to mute. Yeah, get us.
• 1:19:17
  Just hook it up with the straw or something.
• 1:19:19
  I'm going to get one of those hats.
• 1:19:20
  Yeah. We just straw that comes down
• 1:19:22
  into it. Yeah, there we go.
• 1:19:26
  So our drink out of like a paper cup person.
• 1:19:30
  I'll just drink out of the bottle and get the bottle on my
• 1:19:32
  knee. So yeah, when we when we kind of
• 1:19:38
  divided this up, I let the boys choose first.
• 1:19:41
  So I got the ones that were leftover except for they did.
• 1:19:44
  They very kindly left me with one really cool one that we'll
• 1:19:47
  get to and it's not that these are all cool figures.
• 1:19:51
  Queen Erksa, this is a good one. She's a kind of a leader within
• 1:19:55
  the orcs and she looks kind of plain now compared to what you'd
• 1:20:00
  get and the head sculpt is magnificent and they have
• 1:20:04
  they're reusing that on the legions con 2 pack this year.
• 1:20:07
  A different paint scheme of see her armor is does have
• 1:20:12
  weathering, but could probably do with.
• 1:20:16
  She could do with kind of more what I've said she really misses
• 1:20:19
  is more like trinkets and stuff. So if you imagine like Ganesha,
• 1:20:27
  what Ganesha come with loads of like jewels, and I think she
• 1:20:33
  could do with that in relation to, you know, what a what an orc
• 1:20:37
  shaman might have. So remember, Tarnog had like
• 1:20:40
  the, OK, the really ornate belt piece with like bits of skulls
• 1:20:45
  and kind of wooden stuff hanging off it.
• 1:20:47
  She could do with a bunch of that kind of stuff to upgrade
• 1:20:49
  her to, to bring it more in line.
• 1:20:51
  If you see her headdress there, if that could if there could be
• 1:20:54
  more of that sort of stuff incorporated into the figure.
• 1:20:57
  First off, goods perhaps as well, yeah.
• 1:21:00
  So maybe even if she had like arm sleeves as well that weren't
• 1:21:05
  armour but more this kind of bone type stuff.
• 1:21:08
  Bone armour. I think she could do with the
• 1:21:10
  whole bone armour upgrade to be honest.
• 1:21:13
  Bone armour would be. Excellent.
• 1:21:14
  Yeah, I'd like to see her as the first eh, female brute scale
• 1:21:20
  figure we get. Really.
• 1:21:22
  Umm, whether it's a you know, it's probably going to work
• 1:21:26
  better as a a 1.0 style brute scale.
• 1:21:29
  Isn't it female but. Yeah.
• 1:21:31
  So the Neve book would would be a good one for her.
• 1:21:33
  Yeah, but definitely. Bigger.
• 1:21:36
  She definitely, I mean the the irks so that I've got on my
• 1:21:39
  shelf is 1 I bought from Jeremy Gerard and he combined it with
• 1:21:42
  the the orc female Legion builder.
• 1:21:44
  So she's far more armoured than this.
• 1:21:46
  And I really like that. It's like, yeah, if she's not
• 1:21:48
  queen she'd have more armour on. Got you.
• 1:21:51
  Yeah. The only thing I with your not
• 1:21:54
  being put on the Navy book malice because they'd have to
• 1:21:57
  redo the head and then you're talking about a whole new
• 1:22:00
  figure. Oh yeah, really?
• 1:22:01
  I. Mean that's that's my Yeah, she
• 1:22:04
  would be a whole new figure, really.
• 1:22:05
  From what? But I definitely think she she
• 1:22:08
  could do with more stuff and she doesn't need that spear.
• 1:22:11
  Give her something better than that.
• 1:22:14
  I love the sword. That's one of my favorite swords
• 1:22:16
  so it's such a good sword though.
• 1:22:18
  Yeah. And she's got the axe as well as
• 1:22:20
  some she that sort of like her a bone.
• 1:22:23
  Is it like a bone? Oh yeah, that's that's the one
• 1:22:25
  that comes with that comes with the on can as well.
• 1:22:29
  That's one of his weapons. That's a cool one as.
• 1:22:31
  Well, those are two of the best weapons in the line.
• 1:22:33
  She's gone both. And then the boring spare.
• 1:22:35
  So, yeah, yeah, well, OK, let's move on from her to the main
• 1:22:41
  man, Balaam. So these are a couple of
• 1:22:45
  pictures from around near me taken a couple years ago now.
• 1:22:49
  I think that was probably even before around the time of COVID
• 1:22:54
  and I had more time to be walking around the place.
• 1:22:57
  And so he's awesome. And I mean, the reason I have
• 1:23:02
  some of my own pictures of Balaam is because I like him so
• 1:23:04
  much. So it's one of the figures I've
• 1:23:08
  taken out to take pics as one of the rare few.
• 1:23:11
  And he could do with a lot of upgrades.
• 1:23:16
  I think at this point, obviously flocked is the first, you know,
• 1:23:24
  absolutely not the brave fighters type flocking, just a
• 1:23:27
  very light flocking. And you know, think Panthor, but
• 1:23:31
  even even kind of more subtle, just just that when you touch
• 1:23:35
  it, you just feel it like you still see the paint underneath
• 1:23:39
  coming through whatever. But if they're not going to do
• 1:23:42
  that, you know, But that would be so amazing if they did soft
• 1:23:47
  goods. I have a picture here from Nolan
• 1:23:50
  collects on Instagram. He did an awesome kind of
• 1:23:54
  version to Balaam. And I mean, this kind of almost
• 1:23:57
  gets there. He's used the purple knight from
• 1:24:01
  the Armory here and soft goods, the purple soft goods there.
• 1:24:07
  I can't remember what figure that that's off.
• 1:24:13
  No, OK. And bunch of belts as well.
• 1:24:17
  Is it definitely off a figure? It might even be like a Max bird
• 1:24:19
  or something maybe? Maybe it is, Maybe it is to go
• 1:24:21
  with. Her I think the hero one had
• 1:24:23
  lots of blue. Could be that, Yeah.
• 1:24:25
  So that's cool. You see, he has these cool
• 1:24:29
  double swords, so I think that's a feature of his character that
• 1:24:33
  needs to stay in. Those swords are cool, they're
• 1:24:35
  fine. Maybe could do them translucent
• 1:24:40
  blue to give them one magical vibe.
• 1:24:45
  So I've seen on a few swords too, is that it's that sort of
• 1:24:48
  sword, maybe not quite that curved, but it's got rings
• 1:24:51
  through the back of it. Yes, bare feline fee would
• 1:24:54
  definitely be a good thing. And a better tail, the up to the
• 1:24:58
  standard of the wired tails now, you know, would be better.
• 1:25:03
  Yeah, even though it's perfectly fine once you get it in, that's
• 1:25:06
  working. But that tail has had problems
• 1:25:09
  with the years. So that's Balaam, anything more
• 1:25:14
  there Rich? I know he's one of your
• 1:25:16
  favourites too. He is.
• 1:25:17
  Now that you've mentioned the main thing, which is the
• 1:25:19
  flocking. For me, I think it would be a
• 1:25:21
  crime to do a second blah without a flocking.
• 1:25:25
  The only thing I'd say actually popping into my head, it talks
• 1:25:28
  about him drawing power from other animals.
• 1:25:31
  So maybe a couple little companion pieces like little
• 1:25:32
  Bunny or. Something.
• 1:25:33
  Oh yeah, yeah, Now we. Could be good as well the mouse.
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  Even the rat. Oh, there we go.
• 1:25:37
  Yeah, yeah, flock the rat as well.
• 1:25:41
  As I say, I think, sorry, just to go to BLAM, I think keep the
• 1:25:44
  keep the like. I agree with you, use that
• 1:25:47
  purple, the new purple armor, but I think somehow keep the
• 1:25:50
  Blues in there as well because I really like those Blues.
• 1:25:53
  Yes, yeah, yeah. He'd almost have a translucent
• 1:25:55
  sword as well. I don't think you mentioned that
• 1:25:57
  to John. I didn't miss that it.
• 1:25:59
  Did, yeah. Yeah, flips sakes.
• 1:26:01
  Yeah, I did you, John. I dozed off when you were
• 1:26:04
  talking. So.
• 1:26:06
  Just when you started to then mention the magic effects
• 1:26:09
  straight after and right and then Rich's favorite vampire,
• 1:26:13
  Carpathius. So boring, so boring.
• 1:26:18
  So I mean, just give him some murmur from the Lithia wave,
• 1:26:22
  give him a nice Cape, you know, just do something to the board,
• 1:26:31
  you know? I don't know, Rich, you got
• 1:26:35
  anything more here? I mean.
• 1:26:38
  I definitely think fancier Rama for him.
• 1:26:41
  He's you know, he's quite high up in the the the ranks of the
• 1:26:45
  vampire. So definitely he needs better
• 1:26:48
  weapons. Those those two he's got are
• 1:26:49
  just dreadful you. Know again you need a.
• 1:26:52
  Different 1. He would make quite a good one
• 1:26:54
  for a screaming head. I think if you're going to do it
• 1:26:55
  another second and obviously the head to pack him with a
• 1:26:57
  screaming head, but if you're going to do another screaming
• 1:26:59
  head vampire, he would be a really good one to go for.
• 1:27:04
  Yeah. So I think anything you do to
• 1:27:08
  Carpetius will will improve. Improvement.
• 1:27:10
  Yeah, I mean, it's a fine figure for wave one, but not for today,
• 1:27:15
  you know? Well.
• 1:27:16
  That's the thing, yeah, we're not, we know, we're not saying
• 1:27:17
  oh it's a rubbish figure, We're saying it's a rubbish figure or
• 1:27:20
  excuse me, a boring figure compared to the new stuff.
• 1:27:23
  What what do you think to the idea of maybe giving him the
• 1:27:26
  gore go slash vorgas 2.0 version 2 armour but painted in the
• 1:27:37
  blacks and what do you think to that?
• 1:27:40
  That would work really well. That would work.
• 1:27:42
  I really like that. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:27:45
  But obviously then you give him the vampire head, which is where
• 1:27:47
  he's very different than to them.
• 1:27:48
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah, As long as it comes
• 1:27:50
  with a helmet, then yes. Yeah, that works.
• 1:27:54
  Definitely, I like that. Or at least the shoulders,
• 1:27:58
  because they're quite different and you know.
• 1:28:00
  No, I think, I think the torso really well in those colours.
• 1:28:05
  Yeah, yeah, I mean, even even the cloth torso, you know, the
• 1:28:10
  original one. Yeah, probably have worked
• 1:28:13
  better here for him just in this original figure.
• 1:28:16
  But I think they can do they can do more now.
• 1:28:23
  Yeah. So there we go.
• 1:28:26
  That's a our little quick run through of legacies.
• 1:28:31
  What might be coming. We'll obviously go back into
• 1:28:34
  this topic as, as and when it gets announced over the next
• 1:28:38
  hopefully couple of months. Who knows, who knows what's
• 1:28:40
  coming, But what we do know, June the 6th, as we said, is
• 1:28:45
  going to be the the fighting the infinite legions.
• 1:28:50
  So there we go guys. Can I just say now, if they do
• 1:28:54
  malleus with the coconut ears, I will never ever, ever stop
• 1:28:57
  talking about it, Mr. Wickley. Ever.
• 1:29:01
  If they do malleus with the coconut ears, I might just.
• 1:29:04
  Yeah, I'm out. Whatever.
• 1:29:06
  Thinking before I die, I will make a recording and they'll
• 1:29:09
  play it at my funeral. I was right with the coconut
• 1:29:12
  ears. Look at that.
• 1:29:12
  That was amazing. And nobody will know what you're
• 1:29:17
  talking about. I know nobody at all.
• 1:29:23
  Stay safe out there everybody, particularly if you're late for
• 1:29:26
  John because he's, you know he'll kill you.