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The Real HouseLIES of Potomac: A Finale Reunion Recap · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Welc up to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings,
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  Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most
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  Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten
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  Speaker 1: years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with
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  Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the
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  Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable
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  Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about high
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  Speaker 1: range drops. We have a busy show to night, so
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  Speaker 1: let's bring in. This is a funny thing. These two
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  Speaker 1: are friends in real life. They are a good time.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, let's just say. I feel very blessed to
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  Speaker 1: call them my friend. And I also feel very blessed
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  Speaker 1: that I get to like hang out with them, because
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  Speaker 1: you have not experienced a fun time if you haven't
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  Speaker 1: a experienced it with Dustin Ross and d D Claudia Jordan,
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  Speaker 1: who is my friend, my baby doll. I everyone knows
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  Speaker 1: I'm in love with Claudia Jordan.
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  Speaker 2: I really am. I think she's super underrated.
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  Speaker 1: I have said that for years and I will keep
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  Speaker 1: saying again until my girl gets a star on the
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood Walk of Fame. I love this woman. I think
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  Speaker 1: she's so smart, she's super gorgeous. She has a potty
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  Speaker 1: mouth like no other. But she's very sensitive too. Miss
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  Speaker 1: Aries like dust It. It's a aries too, but I
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  Speaker 1: love them together. Give it up, y'all for D Dustin
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  Speaker 1: Ross and D Claudia Jordan.
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  Speaker 3: It is an airy sandwich with a little Libra in
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  Speaker 3: the middle.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 3: I was so surprised you just hit me about the
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  Speaker 3: blue because Carlos is so hard to get a hold
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  Speaker 3: of now, because he's so popular, he's so rich, he's
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  Speaker 3: so famous, he's courtyard. He's hiding the identity of who
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  Speaker 3: he's dating. I mean to me, I was like, oh
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  Speaker 3: my god, did he need a real journalist? I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: but where I am? So you want me to speak
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  Speaker 3: on things with my journalistic skills?
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  Speaker 5: Damn right, that's right. Cloud.
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  Speaker 4: Hey Bi.
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  Speaker 2: Rain drops, you don't have real friends. If you're real friends,
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  Speaker 2: they'll read you for films. I go people all the time.
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  Speaker 2: That's the Claudia.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, Claudia, you and I do talk often,
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  Speaker 1: and I, Claudia.
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  Speaker 4: Not enough. I missed you. That's all I know.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, I all the girls need some Carlos time. And
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  Speaker 1: I make sure to distribute it equally. But Claudia, I
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  Speaker 1: miss you so much. What have you been up to?
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  Speaker 1: Because I mean I know because we do talk, so
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  Speaker 1: I know all the amazing things you're doing. Can you
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  Speaker 1: share with the rain drops what you've been up to?
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  Speaker 1: Because you are somebody that they still ask about whenever
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  Speaker 1: I do a podcast like can you bring Claudia back?
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  Speaker 1: So I want you to have the time to update.
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  Speaker 1: That goes to cat to child. So it's her feet fixed?
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  Speaker 2: What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Bait?
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  Speaker 4: My fee have been fixed for a couple of years now.
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  Speaker 3: And I actually went with Mimi to the same doctor
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  Speaker 3: and MEI just got her feet fixed. What was wrong
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  Speaker 3: with she had bunions. She had bunions, so they shaved
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  Speaker 3: the bone down. Wait till you see the job that
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  Speaker 3: doctor Wagner did at Jaws the Dietary down in Florida.
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  Speaker 3: He hooked her up like it is amazing. Actually, I
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  Speaker 3: sent you a message because he needs a show like
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  Speaker 3: like doctor Pumble Popper, my feet are killing me. He
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  Speaker 3: needs a show like it's so amazing what he does.
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  Speaker 3: He changed my life because you know, I was shamed
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  Speaker 3: to death for revealing my feet on Housewives. I only
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  Speaker 3: did it because my storyline was going to be I
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  Speaker 3: was gonna fix it on your show. But them I
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  Speaker 3: found out how brutal the you know, how barbaric the
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  Speaker 3: surgery was.
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  Speaker 4: So I said, oh my god, forget it. But it
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  Speaker 4: was too late. Y'all already had the footage.
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  Speaker 3: And I just want to say, y'all are because in
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  Speaker 3: the show and I have to just tell one industry secret.
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  Speaker 3: Whoever edited made the corns look way darker and worse
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  Speaker 3: in the pictures. I went on on the video than
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  Speaker 3: what it wasn't real life because people see me in
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  Speaker 3: real life they're.
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  Speaker 4: Like, oh, they played you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I know, they want to look darker. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: my mother was like really. I was like, I know, mom,
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  Speaker 3: but it's okay. I'm gonna fix some ten years later,
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  Speaker 3: and I did.
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  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 2: Anyways, Claudia, somebody said foot edge. You know what, my
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  Speaker 2: feet are?
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  Speaker 4: Cute?
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  Speaker 3: Now they go right in your boyfriend's mouth. Oh feet,
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  Speaker 3: Well they're a little ashy, so let me not do that.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, they better though.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, that's what and that's why it matters, Claudia. That's why.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I've been.
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  Speaker 3: Doing a lot of movies I have a theatrical release
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  Speaker 3: coming out. It's called Run. It's a horror film. It's amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Dreuici Door, isn't it? Annie Alonza, Erica Pinkett, Erica Meta myself.
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  Speaker 3: It is a really good Marcus Houston. It's a dope movie.
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  Speaker 3: It's in theaters across America this summer's calling Run.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: I just have played another lead in another movie, The Handyman.
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  Speaker 3: I was in every scene. Uh, that's gonna come out soon.
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  Speaker 4: Just a lot of films.
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  Speaker 3: I have a podcast with Erica Cobb called Accidentally Informed.
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  Speaker 2: It's really good, by the way.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna shift to do it weekly, to do it
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  Speaker 3: on hot more topical. So we're gonna go live on Wednesday,
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  Speaker 3: So just go to our YouTube channel. And we're just
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  Speaker 3: trying to build that. So just a lot of little things,
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  Speaker 3: remodeling my house.
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  Speaker 4: Been really busy. You know, life is good, traveling.
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  Speaker 2: You know, are you dating anybody?
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  Speaker 4: No? I have been celibate for a while.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy wasting all this good vagina. So on
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  Speaker 3: that note, but doesn't sweat out with me in my
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  Speaker 3: last book, like you know, dustin't seem you know.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, the one that was in the sports industry.
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  Speaker 4: With a coach, but because you know, it's okay, okay,
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  Speaker 4: it's fine.
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  Speaker 2: But I have met the coach.
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  Speaker 5: He was cool. Yeah, we made we hung out with
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  Speaker 5: a few times, but.
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  Speaker 3: No one, no boyfriend since I just dated like one
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  Speaker 3: person since then.
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  Speaker 4: But I keep my personal very very very very very low.
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  Speaker 3: And that's why I think people make a lot of
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  Speaker 3: rumors because I don't really say what it really is.
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  Speaker 4: It's very on the low.
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  Speaker 3: Like I just let people think, oh, she can't get
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  Speaker 3: a man, she sleeps with cats. I kind of like
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  Speaker 3: to play that character, like, yeah, yeah, I can't get
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  Speaker 3: a man. I do have a crush on someone right now,
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  Speaker 3: but this person doesn't know yet, so I haven't like,
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  Speaker 3: let this person know.
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  Speaker 4: I do have a crush on someone.
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  Speaker 6: I know who it is, and they're gonna look so
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  Speaker 6: good together too, because they're going to me, they're gonna
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  Speaker 6: be Okay, is he an actor?
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  Speaker 4: No, actors are crazy?
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  Speaker 5: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Is he in the industry?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 4: No, not not TV and movies and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't met yet. I'm just manifesting it.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, you have too, you just don't know it.
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  Speaker 1: Cool because I was thinking about Aaron Pierre. You guys
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  Speaker 1: look good together.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, he's fine, but he's with my girl, Tianna Taylor,
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  Speaker 3: and they look sexy together.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think so is that.
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  Speaker 5: They did a soft launch.
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  Speaker 4: They did a soft launch.
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  Speaker 5: That's what the headlines read today.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, Tianna Taylor confirms her relationship with Aaron pa That's
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  Speaker 6: a beautiful couple.
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  Speaker 4: They probably have some good ass sex too.
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  Speaker 5: She don't miss because her any minds.
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  Speaker 4: You know she's anyone because I love her. I'm a fan.
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  Speaker 5: How can you look bad next to you?
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  Speaker 6: Got to be an ugly motherfucker look bad next to
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  Speaker 6: Tianna Taylor.
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  Speaker 5: That's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why my next man, I think I want somebody.
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  Speaker 4: Who are you gonna take to the game?
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  Speaker 1: Carlos, Well, I realized I can't take anybody to the
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  Speaker 1: game because the rain drops saw me on TV Claudia
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  Speaker 1: if it took a screenshot and putting on Twitter.
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  Speaker 2: But thankfully with a girl.
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  Speaker 4: Oh I saw that.
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  Speaker 3: But you wanted to take a guy though, I was going.
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  Speaker 2: To take this guy to a game for our first date.
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  Speaker 6: That would have been a fun first day court sight
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  Speaker 6: at the game. That's that's I like.
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  Speaker 5: First days like this one.
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  Speaker 6: So it ain't even that. He just ain't sitting nowhere else.
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  Speaker 6: That's all it is. That's just what he said. If
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  Speaker 6: you're gonna go to the game with him, you get
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  Speaker 6: to then sit courtside as well, because this nigga ain't
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  Speaker 6: gonna sit in the wheld, said the Republican.
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  Speaker 5: That's what it is.
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  Speaker 2: X Claudia.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so happy you too, are hair because we get
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  Speaker 1: to recap the real.
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  Speaker 2: Of Atomic Part three re union.
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  Speaker 1: It was many things that happened, and I want to
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  Speaker 1: start off with Mia Thornton.
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  Speaker 5: Who, yeah, who cares that she left? Who gives a fuck?
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  Speaker 6: I didn't get was that was so that fell so
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  Speaker 6: flat and it was so monotone for.
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  Speaker 5: Me, me, oh, you call me a bad mother?
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  Speaker 6: And then she's walking out with all the dramatics and
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  Speaker 6: then black shades on. See it get on because as
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  Speaker 6: you can see, that reunion roll right on along without
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  Speaker 6: her and everything. Actually, the reunion got better once she
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  Speaker 6: left because we started getting real deal receipts, pulled out,
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  Speaker 6: real time receipts, actual you know, participation from the ladies
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  Speaker 6: on stage. After that that made sense. They weren't doing
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  Speaker 6: nothing but playing ping pong with me at the whole time. Anyway, Giselle, uh, Wendy,
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  Speaker 6: who else was tagging me? Is that everybody? So when
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  Speaker 6: it was time for her to go, shit, I was
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  Speaker 6: happy she left. Not in a negative way. I'm just
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  Speaker 6: saying I was glad to wrap all that up, you
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  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. I was happy to wrap all
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  Speaker 6: that up.
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  Speaker 4: I watched it today, and you know, I got admitted.
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  Speaker 3: Ever since I have been on a show like that
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  Speaker 3: and long, I haven't really watched a lot of reality
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  Speaker 3: shows like that. But I did watch the reunion, and
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  Speaker 3: I think Potomac the times I have watched is a
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  Speaker 3: good I think it's the best one of all the
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  Speaker 3: shows right now.
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  Speaker 5: I really do for sure.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, damn, they are mean, Like I would
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  Speaker 4: hate me. I was like, oh my god, Like what.
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  Speaker 3: Like on Atlanta they would have been fighting probably, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it would have been some hair driving or something, but
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  Speaker 3: they was really like going at it. And I was like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my god, I do not envy that. But it
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  Speaker 3: was fun to watch. But me, I think she should
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  Speaker 3: have stayed. You know, I think with to be called
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  Speaker 3: the bad mother, I'm sure that's painful, but you're you've
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  Speaker 3: been on.
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  Speaker 4: The show long enough to know what that's the leap
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  Speaker 4: of it, Like, come on, you gotta be able to
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  Speaker 4: expect that on going.
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  Speaker 3: You had always have one in the talk, Like when
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  Speaker 3: I would do a show, I'd always have Okay, this
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  Speaker 3: person might company, I'm gonna have three things for you,
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  Speaker 3: you know, just the top of the top of mind
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  Speaker 3: in case you.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, paused the cause because this is the thing that oh,
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  Speaker 1: I love my podcast is because it's so like inside
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  Speaker 1: Baseball but some shit.
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  Speaker 2: So listen, I know how some of the reality.
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  Speaker 1: Girls work, right, they definitely have information in their arsenal
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  Speaker 1: that they choose to keep until you get clopped. So, Claudia,
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  Speaker 1: when you were doing reality television, would you have information
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  Speaker 1: in back your mind that would be like I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna say anything, but the bumma you tried me, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to reveal it.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely ablutely, like it's it's in politics. They like to
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  Speaker 3: call it opposition research, Like you know, you just have
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  Speaker 3: to do a little too.
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  Speaker 4: In case anyone want to get froggy. I never start
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  Speaker 4: anything in my entire life.
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  Speaker 3: As an areas, we don't start anything, but we are
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  Speaker 3: very good at finishing it.
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  Speaker 4: It's so good that people think you came on.
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  Speaker 5: There with a motive.
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  Speaker 4: No, you have a couple like.
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  Speaker 3: Just do just get a little bit of info so
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  Speaker 3: if they comf you, you have something, so you don't
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  Speaker 3: just sit there like a gear in the headlights.
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  Speaker 5: But this, yeah, it's.
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  Speaker 4: Called the united Place, Baith, It's called the big.
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  Speaker 5: Joker, big joker. Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 6: It's also called being around a whole bunch of opts, right, like,
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  Speaker 6: if you with your friends, you're not thinking, okay, well
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  Speaker 6: let me keep this in the chamber in case me
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  Speaker 6: and this person argue.
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  Speaker 5: You don't even have those sort of thoughts. But if
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  Speaker 5: you're on some.
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  Speaker 6: People you don't know and who they have the propensity
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  Speaker 6: to start some shit, then yeah, I mean those starts
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  Speaker 6: are just gonna come to me anyway, because our Craig
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  Speaker 6: jokes for a living, So you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: I'm already on that. You know what I'm saying. So
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  Speaker 6: if you are and I then we really can just
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  Speaker 6: go there. So that's airy shit, though, Claudia, you know,
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  Speaker 6: it's just we're not sensitive like that.
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  Speaker 5: We can go rule by the head.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we have always.
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  Speaker 2: So do you really okay, Claudia.
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  Speaker 1: You being a former real housewife, you know how the
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  Speaker 1: sausage is made. Did you think it was a bad
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  Speaker 1: luck for Mia. It's one thing to leave.
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  Speaker 2: The set, right to have a breakdown in your dressing room.
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  Speaker 1: Mia left the actual building, changed clothes, hopped in her
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  Speaker 1: black car and never came back. You being a former housewife,
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  Speaker 1: was that a bad thing to do?
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  Speaker 4: Not that I have a lot of experience because people
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  Speaker 4: loved to remind me I was a what I was
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  Speaker 4: only off of one season?
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  Speaker 3: Yes you still talk about it eighteen years later, but yes,
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  Speaker 3: I think you should. I understand because I remember getting
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  Speaker 3: emotional on the next fifteen. There was a lot of
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  Speaker 3: things that were like people come at me from all directions,
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  Speaker 3: and it was very hard.
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  Speaker 4: Matter of fact, I was late to the.
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  Speaker 3: Reunion because I didn't want to do it, but I
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  Speaker 3: did have an obligation to finish my story out and
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  Speaker 3: let the fans know, like what the you know, put
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  Speaker 3: a button on it. You know.
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  Speaker 4: I think if she didn't want to be around those ladies,
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  Speaker 4: then do your reunion from your dressing room.
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  Speaker 3: Will you you at least give something from the dress
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  Speaker 3: room where you can say something, because leaving like that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, leaving like that, you kind of leave it
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  Speaker 3: up for everyone else to write your story for you
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  Speaker 3: and you really have no say and you just have
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  Speaker 3: to deal with it and just go on social media. Actors,
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  Speaker 3: I think she could have stayed and maybe responded from
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  Speaker 3: her dressing room.
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  Speaker 4: You know. I think people think in the moment, like
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  Speaker 4: this is I'm gonna eat this and just walk out.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: Have you ever like made a grand exit and you're
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  Speaker 3: thinking like they're gonna come after.
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  Speaker 4: You, like wait, wait, wait, and they don't.
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  Speaker 5: You're like, oh shit, that ain't never happened to me.
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  Speaker 5: God damn it. No, hell no, that's never happened to me.
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  Speaker 6: But it did happen to Mia, just like you're saying,
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  Speaker 6: nobody cared and it's so funny. There was some headlines
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  Speaker 6: circulating when they were filming the reunion that there was
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  Speaker 6: a rumor about some sort of physical altercation that didn't happen,
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  Speaker 6: or at least wasn't shown on camera. If it did,
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  Speaker 6: I don't believe it happened because I haven't seen anything
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  Speaker 6: else other than those rumors, right, But those rumors made headlines.
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  Speaker 6: The fact that Mia actually left the reunion did not
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  Speaker 6: Oh so I think that shows you how anticlimactic it was.
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  Speaker 6: And I don't think she had nothing else in her.
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  Speaker 6: It's very easy to say, all right, you went too far,
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  Speaker 6: so now I'm done with this shit when you don't
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  Speaker 6: have nothing else to offer because you didn't got caught
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  Speaker 6: busted and slapped in the face with the truth around
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  Speaker 6: every corner you turn.
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  Speaker 5: She ain't have nothing else to give. She had to
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  Speaker 5: get the fuck out of there.
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  Speaker 6: And I think she was uncomfortable in that dress because
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  Speaker 6: them feathers that had to be tickling and itching, you know.
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  Speaker 5: What I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: I know the air was on in there in that room,
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  Speaker 6: and them damn feathers rubbing up against you and shit
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  Speaker 6: and me always looked like she finished sneeze anyway.
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  Speaker 3: Off.
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  Speaker 6: She had to take that ship off, you know what
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  Speaker 6: I'm saying. That's why she left. She was sicking in closed, That's.
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  Speaker 5: What it was. Carls.
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  Speaker 4: Do you not get your whole check if you don't
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: finish the reunion?
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: Oh that's a really good ques.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Oh this is okay As a journalist, I'm not being shitty.
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: I really was with the newspaper for a while in RDA.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, no, you're a real adrenaline care
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: not at your journaling stuff. He else, So Chlodia asking me,
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: do you not get your whole check when you're not
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: a reunion?
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Okay? So, and that's a great question for the audience.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: When you film a reality show, you get paid per episode, right,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: So because Mia was in every episode, she did get
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: paid because she was in these episodes. Now granted she
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: was in five minutes of the episode, but the moment
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: your face appears in the episode, you do get paid
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: for your your full episodic rate. So Mia did get paid.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: And I want to say this. I want to say that,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna keep it real. Y'all know, I love Mia.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: I call her mabe lyon and I did feel like.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Me I had a lot of potential.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: One thing I will say is I Carlos King obviously
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: was very disappointed that she left the building, right because
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: this is this is this is how I feel and
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: and and doesn't Claudia, I would love for you guys
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: to comment about this too.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: To be the star or the queen bee or.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: The force multiplier of a reality show, you gotta take
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: the good with the good and the bad with the bad.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: It's not easy.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: It's not easy, and that goes with any position in life,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: whether you're a lawyer.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: A doctor, what marketing, whatever your job is. When you
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: are at the top of your game, you're going to
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: get attacked. You're going to get attacked.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: And this is something that because me and Claudia are
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: friends in real life, and me and Claudia spoke by
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: this my podcast when she was a guest. She is
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: one of the few people who've been on twice. That's
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: how iconic he is, so listen to it.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: But Claudia the next fifteen Claudia was not going to
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: come to the reunion.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: And one thing I love about my girls, if they
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: feel some kind of way, I always say to them,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: if it's that bad, call me, call me. To her credit,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Claudia called me and said it's too much. I can't
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: take it. She and I had a conversation. Claudia came
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: in and delivered. Claudia delivered that reunion right. And being
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: a reality star is not easy. You're getting judge every
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: single week that parlays in two days, often because of
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: your appearance. And I believe in Mia and I'm being honest.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I know a star when I see one. I believe
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: in Mia. Now I am disappointed only because I know
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: that Miya has what it takes.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: And I wish that Mia.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Would do what some of the other girls do and
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: they call me before the reunion anyway, I wish that
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Mia would have would have done what Claudia did, which
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: is sort of like, I gotta sit through this and
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: it's one of those things. And I want this to
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: be a message to anybody who's at the top of
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: their game in their job.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: When you are at the.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Top, people are going to try to drag you to
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: the bottom, and the worst thing you can do is
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: satisfy them by doing what Mia did. That I just
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: didn't like, which is left the entire building because for me,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Claudia is right in terms of that stage.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: You're going to get pop pa pa, pa pal, but
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: you have.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: To be able to withstand it. And I know Mia
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: has it in her. I know she does. I'm sad
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: she left, and what's sad about it? And this I'm
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: gonna be very very very honest here, very honest. What's
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: said about Mia leaving is two things.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: For me.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: One, I always tell people this, the show must go on.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: And Dustin Ross is right. The show went on and
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: this is no shade. The show was great. It was,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: it was, it was, It was actually funny, and I
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: enjoyed the entire reunion. So that's number one. Never think
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: that you're irreplaceable. Nobody on God's Green Earth should think that,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: like we all are replaceable.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: That's number one.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Number two, I felt bad for Mia because now I'm like,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Mia will go down in history as the first housewife
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: who left the reunions building building, not just left like
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: or then show up.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: She left the building.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: And it's sad because I'm like, where does she go
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: from here?
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: And that's that's my concern for her. I love Mia.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I hope that Mia is able.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: To sit back and see the rammifications of that and
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: do right by it.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: But I love me. Some mea down, but I'm being honest.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I was disappointed.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: It's a lost opportunity to like because now we're left
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: to assume, well, where were the worst things that she
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: didn't want out? You know, like, what else was there?
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Was she afraid something I was gonna get spilled?
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: It's so hard And does I know areas we talked.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: About this, I know I'm built for me versus a
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: thousand people and it is a very scary thing and
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: it sucks to feel like it's you versus the world.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: But I promise you, miya, when you get to the
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: other side of that, like very little things will phase you.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: And you know, I don't care what anybody.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Else says I was.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: I'm never I've never been one of the girls on
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: the clique. I've always been on my own. I've had
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: a stand on business and have an unpopular opinion about things.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: But god damn it.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: I believe in my intelligence and I believe in my integrity,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: and if I feel I am right, then I'm not
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: going anywhere. Y'all don't have to go around me and MEA.
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, she was full of shit, Claudia. She did not
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: have integrity to stand on. She was talking sitting up there,
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: trying to defend some lies and some really gross behavior,
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: some behavior that rigged gross on the television. You can't
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: get around that unless you step right into it. Yo,
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: this is the truth. Here's how I feel about this,
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: and then people can begin to empathize with you, understand you,
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: relate with you, and.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: Connect with you.
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: We all watched that, and that's why they were just
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: bouncing her ping pong right across the fucking stage all
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: damn day because she was not bringing anything substantive or real.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: And that's the difference.
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: You can stand on your shit because you're telling the
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: truth about whatever you're talking about, and the opinion that
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: you're defending is founded in something. Me was sitting up
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: there just talking shit and saying she was sorry when
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: she really wasn't sorry. So she was playing a game
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: that there was no end game for she was. It
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: was just a lose situation. That's why I was like, gone,
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: you know.
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: And when she didn't know, I don't know that about her.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: I know I picked in the show before and I
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: was like, Wow, that girl has a lot going on,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: and like Carlo says, the potential to really be the
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: start because she had she had so much drama that
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: was like, okay, she gonna be.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: She had the first Listen, I told you all this
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: tea already.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: The first chair is important. To have the first chair.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: It is a reward two years in a row.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Wow, let me tell you something, baby.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: To have the first chair two years in a row
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: is a reward of like you, that girl, We're gonna
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: we have to we have.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: To give it up and and and.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm disappointed, because I know it's tough, and
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: it's very tough, but when you want to be the
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: top dog in any situation, and that's why it's a
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: life rule, you have to know when you're at the top,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: you're going to get attacked. And it's one thing that
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Denzel Washington told Will Smith the night of the Oscar slap.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: He said, at your highest, be careful. That's when the
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: double comps and want to you when you down.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: And out And in second place, no one attacks losers.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: No one attacks you when you last. No one attacks
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: the bumb no one attacks when.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: You itce a run track. First place was a blue ribbon,
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: second place was a red ribbon.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: And third place was white, and after that was all
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: these abstract pastels and purple and lavender and baby blue,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: and one about the person that gets the orange ribbon.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: So if they're coming for you, they're coming for you
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: for a reason.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: So just know that.
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: Mia is disappointing for me because she has everything it
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: takes to be a success on the show. That's why
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: they keep putting her in that first seat chair. But
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: she's fucking it up with the games, and that's what
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: the problem is for the fans, at least for this fan.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, just keep it real.
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: We would love to see her and Gordon figure shit
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: out for real, for real, whether that means them staying
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: together or get a divorce. But the game playing and
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: the line and shit is what makes it repulsive.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: I think that's.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: That's a frustrating thing about reality TV when half of
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: y'all are really putting it on the table and being honest,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: and then people over here, yes, he blew up the spot.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: People over here being fake, lying, being fake, religious, fake, rich,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: fake hat and everything, and you're being honest, and then
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: you end up getting criticized or coming being kind of
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: misunderstood or dragged for your realness. Because I'm telling y'all,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: reality TV audiences, y'all have been so trained to celebrate
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: the fake because there's so much of it that is
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: to frustrated me, especially around some of these Southern gals
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: that really be trying to use religion that is to
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: really pissed me off, because it'd be o fake, and
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: that would be a way to kind of mask the
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: deviant behavior sometimes, you know, and there'd be a lot
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: of lying. I'm like, just you, I promise you, you'd
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: be more interesting if you just cap a.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Buck about what you really are like.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Because how can you maintain that false image? And that's
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: not just people in reality, that's people in general. Like
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: people like to quote God, quote the Bible and make
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: that's gonna make us forget about all your affairs or
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: all your frinds, your debauchery, you know.
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: That's or do whatever they want, whatever kind of file
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: trifling shit they want to do, for years and years
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: and years and then just decide, Oh, I'm giving my
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: life over to the Lord and I'm fin to judge
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: all y'all, and y'all gotta don't worry about what I did.
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: Look where I'm at now. No, it don't work like that.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: Integrity is something that you are that's proven through time
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: and circumstances and shit like.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: So, I don't know.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: That was kind of people irritate me too, Yeah, that
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: was my problem with that. That's why I'm not excited
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: about Faeder coming back to Atlanta. Not excited at all.
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: And unless somebody is going to call her to the
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: carpet for that candy shit from season nine, I don't
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: want to hear anything she has to say.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: I'm going to vack you up on that because every
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: time I've been afraid to say stuff because I feel
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: like when I do, for some reason, just because I
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: was on the show for one season, I'm not allowed
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: to say as much as a fan can say.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: Fuck that and fuck y'all. I'm gonna speak on it.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: I feel you on that because I think she's one
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: of the main people that I think was very phony,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: very fake, but she.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: It is good television because of that.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: She's when you are willing to say or do anything
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: on reality TV. It's it does make you a star
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: in reality But I just feel like a lot of
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: times people get positively reading negatively, we positively reinforced and
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: negative behavior with contracts, with money, with bookings, with adoration
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: because it entertains us. But then people are not really
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: held accountable for really vicious things that they do. And
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's right, you know, And I think
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: people keep getting rewarded for doing function and what's the
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: motivational stot.
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: And see you've spent time with Phaedra specifically, since we're
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: talking about her, I'm speaking just from a viewer of
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: the show. That was an open ended situation that we
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: never got closure on, and we then went on to
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: see her have a real time, real life fall out
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: with Candy.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: We went on to.
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: See Phaedra after a few years, well about five six
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: years she was away, and then we saw her. She
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: came on to Traders, and then she got danced with
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: the stars, and then she got married to medicine or
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: whatever order that went in, and now she's back on
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: Housewives of Atlanta, right, But we've never gotten closer to
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: that situation that she exited the show from, and I
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: am it's hard for me to connect with her just
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: stepping back in and we getting to the bottom of
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: her saying that you know what I'm saying and telling
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: those lies. That's something that should be addressed on that
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: show so that the story can continue appropriately.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: And I really had somebody I agree.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: With that like what like nothing, Okay, let me take
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: a step back, live before I be accused of being
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: a hater, because I'm not. Okay, redemption people deserve to
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: have second chances, whatever I guess, but but I think,
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: like to your point, I think it would be great
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: and it would be defend that explain it put a
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: button on that as well, and then we move forward.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: But to just ignore something main reason for your exit
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: and to not address it and to let you back on,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: I think that's where it kind of leaves a bad
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: taste in one's mouth. Child.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: We are just getting started. This is reality with the
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show. Well,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: let me ask you guys this because you know, one
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: thing that happened on Potomac in this episode two was
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: this sort of like shocking revelation right that even me
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: watching it, I was shocked that I was talking for
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: a couple of reasons. But I want to get you
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: guys thoughts on it too, because to me, it's sort
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: of like what's the integrity of reality television? Right like
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: at this point, sort of like what is going to
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: happen if you're allowed to get away with this? So
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: one thing that occurred on Potomac was this revelation.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: So Claudia, I know you're catching up on this.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: So stay sees a new housewife who gives you Kenya
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Moore tease just like tall beautiful. She's from Detroit as well,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: not a shade assassin because Kenya can read the motherfucker
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: bone book right, very smart and Kenya is actually smart right,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: very smart. Thank you, so, long story short, Stacey's a
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: new housewife. Stacey had this best friend on the show
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: that a lot of people question whether not the relationship
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: was real. They questioned the validity of this relationship and
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: it was something Claudia that was constant, do you know
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: what I mean in terms of like me and Dusk
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: would talk about like there's something off about it.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Fast forward to the reunion.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: This is episode twenty Claudia twenty episodes in of people
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: having these speculations. It's Denver build On Part three, TJ,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: who was facetimed by the husband's on the show, Claudia
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: asking where you at, bro Well, I am there.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: She didn't. Stacey didn't want me there.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: She owes me my name, and then it was sort
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: of like and listen, I'm gonna say this and I.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Want you guys to cook.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: When it was presented to Stacey that TJ alleged that
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: she paid him, I'm just being very honest. It was
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: hard for me to believe Stacy for one reason alone.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna keep it real.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: If you lie on me, If I'm a reality star,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Claudia and Dustin. I've given my whole life to this show.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I'm used to cameras being around me. I'm used to
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: a microphone on my back, and I'm used to y'all
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: telling my real reality. Right with this person, not my cousin,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: y'all don't know, not my not this friend I went
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: to middle school with. We're talking about somebody I brought
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: on the show. If this person I brought on the
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: show and I'm a reality star lied on me, I
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: am picking up my phone in real time calling them.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: When these ladies gave her the opportunity to.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Do that, I was like, Stacy, I love you, down,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: says me and be lying Stacey be lying I'm.
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: Sorry, Yeah, I agree. But now I also want to
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: make note of this. All season long, TJ was adamant
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: about abstaining from sex with Stacy and him wanting to
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: not be intimate with her, and he related that to
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: a correlated that to his faith.
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: It was a faith based decision for him.
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: Right, he was saying, and his love of guy right, right,
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: but no follow me, follow me right. But when Eddie
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: and them called him backstage, TJ got on that phone
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: talking like me that fake ass, showing him fake ass
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: for the fucking p and Cussin talking about exposing the
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: fact that, according to him, his presence there was paid
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying by Stacy, which shows like,
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: you know, just just deceit and things that are not
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: are typically associated with the Christian faith. So I don't
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: know what to believe, because I definitely felt like Stacey
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: was lying on that couch, and she continued to lie
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: allegedly on Watch What Happens Live because she doubled down
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: on it. However, TJ went live today. I saw this,
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: you know, when I was prepping for the show. He
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: went live today saying he had just landed somewhere and
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: he was playing coy and saying that maybe it's time
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: for me to drop some breaking news.
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: So he's eating up the.
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: Spotlight like we all knew he would, and playing directly
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: into the mess of all of this. I think they
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: lying together, That's what I think. I think they both lying.
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: I think that TJ is exaggerating something because he was
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: a totally different nigga on that phone than he was
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: during the season, totally different person, and I think that
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: Stacey was less than honest I don't know about what,
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: but I think she was less than honest when the
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: shit hit the fan at that reunion because she wasn't prepared.
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: And Stacey is a person that stepped on that reunion
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: stage prepared for everything that was going to come her way.
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: She was measured, she was prepared. That hit her from
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: the side. She was blindsided by that. So I think
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: they both.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Waitlau before you go, because I'm actually gagin and I wanted.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Him a Claudia.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: So Dustin, you think, I just want to be clear.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: You think TJ is lying about being paid to be
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: on the show by Stacy, that's what you think.
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he's exaggerated something in some way. If
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: there was some money exchanged, I don't think that they
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: sat down and had an agreement where she said you
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: be in the show and I'll pay you to be here.
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: I think he's exaggerating something that took place that he
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: can frame as such because he wants more attention.
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: The season's over and Stacey's not fucking with him.
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: She's not giving him that access that he once had,
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: So now he's going to get it by exposing things
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: or dropping information or becoming a person who has some
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: sort of some commodity, something of value to the media.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: That's what he's trying to do. Now. I don't give
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: a damn about their relationship.
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: They could have been button naked next to me right
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: now and I'd be looking at y'all. However, people are
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: interested in whether or not it was a real situation,
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: and so they want to know he's playing the game
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: and feeding just enough to keep people interested.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: In what he has to say.
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: I don't know where he thinks he's going to go
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: with that, but that's what he's doing. And Stacey is
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: not telling the truth about something. I don't know what,
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: but I just like you, Carlos, I sat there on
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: that couch and it was a noticeable difference between the
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: way she was presenting when Wendy dropped that bomb and
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: pre prior to that, it was totally different.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: So I think there was something off in there.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Claudia Jordan, what.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Did I just say about the fake religious people. I
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: know people think I'm talking about a certain one or
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: two people on Housewives.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about the entire industry.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: I don't trust people that lead with that and then
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: they do reality television. I feel like there's a lot
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: of people that use that to trick they manipulate us.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: I think someone put religious or faith manipulation, using that
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: to get people to think they're a certain way, but
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: they're really not. Oh I'm abstaining from sex and not
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: doing this. What niggain't fucking nowadays? You miss me with
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: the bullshit that has access And also what person has
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: to be paid to go on one of the hottest
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: reality shows that's out there when people are on Instagram, Twitter, Twitch.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: TikTok, Facebook giving all their tea away for free, Miss
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: me with that, bs.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: I do not believe that when I hear people say, oh,
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: they paid them to be on the show with them,
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: and you're a beautiful girl.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: Do you know how easy it is to get a nigga?
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: And my thing is, even if she did so what,
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: even if she did pay him so what, that would
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: make me look at her any differently? In fact, that
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: would make me be like, oh, she's smart because it's
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: not personal. She found somebody who could just get the
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: job done. That wouldn't even make me look at her
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: in a weird way. So I wish she would just
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: say that if that's true, Yeah, I found somebody.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: I do agree that there's something that she definitely was
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: caught off guard.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: She wasn't ready for that like that they did not
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: talk about that.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: But I also have a hard time believing people once
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: you break up, because there's always the person you get
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: with is not the person you break up with.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: How many of us have all been in love with.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Someone that we would never in a million years think
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: that they would say this, that, and the thought about us.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: But then they break you break up and they are
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: a different human being. They line on you, they paying blogs,
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: the post stories about you and make you look bad.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Now you're an asshole, Now you're bad in bed, Now
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: you're broke.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: But they were singing your praises before.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: So bitterness will change your opinion about someone. And so
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: I don't believe. I want to know when y'all are
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: in it, how y'all think about each other. But at
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: the end we all mad at each other. I'm sorry,
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: It's very easy to lie now. I'm not saying he's innocent.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: I don't really know.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: She definitely was caught up guard. There was something going on,
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: But like, I don't know, were gonna believe people, And
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: like Stacey made a good point, the entire season. Y'all
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: want rocking with this dude. Y'all weren't feeling him. But
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: now that that he's saying, bad's up about me, now
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: you want to.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: See I got it?
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: Okay, So listen, don't be presenting me with no alternative
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: scenario to consider. Let me come to that conclusion on
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: my own. I agree with that. You sound like trying
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: to convince me. You know what I'm saying.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, I'll say this, and again, Stacey's a great housewife.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: She's great. I'm gonna tell you what doesn't help her.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I'm being real. This guy is an actor. Claudia Jordan,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: he was. He was on Sister Sister to Tia Tamiroschelle.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Because Claudia, you know this. Claudia knows this for real, Parrell.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: When you are on Housewives, or when you bring a
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: dude on Housewives, the Housewives fans are going to find
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: everything about this person, right who.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: Remember that guy side of the show.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: And I said, please, Carlos, do not because he's a fraud.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Remember that I do. We'll talk after. So the thing
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: is this, what doesn't help this? I'm just being real.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: He's an actor.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: He's an actor, So I'm gonna tell you three things
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: that makes TJ believable to the audience and to me
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: possibly right.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Number one, he's an actor. He's an actor.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: And one thing we know about actors because you two
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: are actors, you too are and SAG.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: And one thing you both know is people have to
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: pay for your time. People have to pay your time.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: And if if it's my second point, if I'm out
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: on camera kissing you, touching you, yeah, and we're talking
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: about your divorce the whole time I'm there, something's off
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: about that. Number two and number three, I'm gonna say this,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: What was the goal defining to me is if you
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: believed in your heart of hearts that this person was
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: somebody who you call your best friend. Like most paid gigs,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: the contract is up, so I believe this is my opinion.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I believe. I believe allegedly that TJ was not in
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: his contract allegedly paid for reunion services.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: I believe my opinion.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I believe TJ fulfilled his duties for the season. And
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: I believe based on based on Claudia and Dustin the
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: amount of attention he received, he said yesterday's price and
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: today's price, And I believe that TJ allegedly tried to
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: negotiate a different rate, and Stacey allegedly would have said no,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: because my thing is this, Claudia, you were a housewife
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: and you're a reality star. How convenient is it people
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: break up when this season is over with and by
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: the time the reunion happens, we're no longer together.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: Damn they really be paying people. Though maybe maybe they
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: She asked them, come on, maybe not pay them.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Reality TV ain't what it used to be. Go ahead
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: and asked him.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: To, uh, you know, fake this with me. Maybe there
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: was no money transact. I don't know. I don't now
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: confuse both everybody made it.
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: See Okay, that's where that that's where the pivot is
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: for me. If they were, if they had a relationship,
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: if they knew each other, I'll just say that right.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: If she knows TJ right, and she's like, hey, I'm
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: about to film this show and I would love for
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: you to film with me, you know, you know, it's
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: just film together, kicking it or whatever and figuring out
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: our relationship, and of course, you know, I'll pay you
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: for your time type shit. I don't see anything wrong
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: with that personally, And that being that coming out is
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: not an XBO say to me her saying, hey, I
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: don't know you stranger unless fake a relationship.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: Here's a fee to pretend to be my boyfriend. That's
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Stop you there.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: And and I'm only saying this because they said it,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: because Claudia knows this. I have never once told Claudia's business.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I don't tell my girl's business. I'm gonna say this
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: only because they said it.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Husband not all.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Some husbands over housewives get ten percent of their wife's check.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: I don't see anything.
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you why don't I don't know. I'm
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you what's different. I'm
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: gonna tell you why.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Peter and Cynthia had this conversation publicly that Cynthia Peter.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Is her husband.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Her husband, Okay, they had a conversation where when you're filming, right, Claudia,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: especially housewives, because that's that's like, you know, that's that's rue.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: You're dusting this. This is the reality.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Your time is being taken away. You got away in
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: the parking lot before you get called in. You gotta
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: get mind so dustin. It does feel like a job.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: It really does. And that's the reason why Peter and
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Cynthia had a conversation. And Cynthia have to pay Peter,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: her husband to film. And what a lot of people
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: don't know is a lot of the husbands get paid
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: because they don't get paid for them the housewife because
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: their time is being spent, their time is being taken away.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say this, and I love Stacy. I
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: love Stacy down and Stacey is a great housewife. Without Tea,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: without TJ, what would Stacy talk about?
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: I don't know, Carlos.
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: I feel like Stacy brought a lot of new energy
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: to that cast this season, and my favorite moments from
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: her had nothing to do with her relationship with TJ.
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: Favorite moments from her were her.
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: Interacting with the ladies at that event, at the dog
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: Ship event at the end of the season, her laughing
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: at Ashley singing at the GNA event, her confessional scenes,
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: her at the table scene when they went on that
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: cash trip and she was and they were cocking me
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: and Justine.
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: That's don't give her and that man because I never was.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: That friend of tease. That's very much friend of Now I.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: Agree with you, Okay, we can agree that started.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Off as a friend of and when she and when
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: she became a housewife. After filming Claudia, we have to
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: be like, well, she's a housewife, so we got any
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: personal story. And that's why I always believe Claudia deserved
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: a second chance because of those reasons. Everything was saying
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: is true. Everything Stacey did was amazing. But that's why
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: I said this. I'll say it again. I'll say it again.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: I'll say it again. I say again. That's why when.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Claudia needed me and he had that moment in Puerto Rico,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Niini said to me and another producer, y'all chose the
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: wrong be Claudia deserves the peach.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm gonna say, because to.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Have that level of confidence and and and and stamina,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: the fact that they are all, the fact that the
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: queen of reality television, the queen who I considered to
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: be the greatest reality start of all time, the fact
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: that she told us y'all made a mistake.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Claudia needs the peach. Let's be clear.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: So what I'm saying, I appreciate her saying that because
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: I remember you all tell me.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: At the time, I was.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: Like, really, people thought we were really hating each other time,
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: and really it wasn't. She was around me after that
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: read in Puerto Rico, she got a stand next to Claudia.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: She well again again, I would like to say everything,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: but it's true, Nini. That's why it's two things. Dustin,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: You're right about Stacey. Everything's saying is right, But there
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: is this thing where when you are a housewife, it's like, okay,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: besides the group scenes, girl, what are we getting from
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: you at the crib? And that's why to me, I'm
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: just being honest here. It is believable. I'm not saying
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Stacy's lying. I'm not saying teacher's line.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know. All I'm saying is believable.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: And the reason why I wanted to bring Claudia into
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: this too is because when you start off as a
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: friend of but you are like everything you said to Dustin,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: you're then the group scene. You give a comment, you
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: give a facial expression, you throw a little shade. But
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: when you are a mother, housewife, or baby, who's your mama.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Where's your brother, who's your man? Where's your child? So
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: that's why I.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Can see Stacy feeling the need and I'm going in
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: with this because her real husband, who she is married to,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: doesn't want her or her child on the show.
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: Wait what, that's what we saw kids?
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Claudia, Stacy's married, she's going divorce though, and she
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: has a beautiful daughter.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: None of them on the show.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: So when you that's why it's believable, because without all
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: of those extra factors, she will be the Marlon Hampton
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: of Potonemac A friend before got a pitch.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of people, well a few
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: people in the comments are talking about Stacy's dude and
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: that they're questioning his sexuality.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: Has that ever been a thing?
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Well, the thing is now from me and Dustin because
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: as listen, I'll say this listen as gay black man,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: it's dangerous to sort of out somebody is TJ's. It's
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: TJ's decision to say whether or not he is.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: That's not for us to call out Claudia. Obviously.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: People are saying that that's why Eddie in this reunion
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: used to work flamboyant.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: A little bit at him.
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: I don't think.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think Adi was throwing share. I think Eddie
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: was being careful in terms of life because the thing
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: is that it's dangerous. It's dangerous. It's nothing more dangerous
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: to out somebody than I am ready for it. And
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: it's also dangerous to label anybody something they or not.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: So I just want to say that. So when it
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: comes to that, that has been a topic conversation. But
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: that's TJ's story to tell.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: From my listen.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: From my understanding, he has yet to talk about it,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: so I don't know. But what I'm saying is when
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: it comes to whether or not he is or isn't,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: that to me is a mute point.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: The biggest point is whether or.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Not this man was paid to be on the show,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: because Stacy did not have any personal story outside of TJ.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: Do you think men?
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Do you think the boyfriends and husbands on reality TV
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: should get paid?
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: You think that will help or hurt?
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a good question.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: The reason why I create a love and marriage is
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: because I listen.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: I always felt that when it came to.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Reality TV, in order for you to understand the woman,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: you also have to get to know her husband or
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: her boyfriend, right, And I feel like, and this is
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: my experience, the men they work season six, which will
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: go down to history in the Guinness Book of World
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Records as the highest rated season of any Bravo show
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: that was the main season.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Claudia was a season before You got.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: On where the men were integral into the storyline. And
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: that's the reason why that show that season was. That
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: season is tense a plus across the board. You had apollow,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Greg Leek's Rest in Peace. Todd, you had I'm missing
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: other hell, Brandon, you had you, you, you, you had.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: You had the Christopher Christopher Williams, Oh.
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: My god, that was you.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: You you, you had the p o B of men.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Because we don't live in a world where it's just
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: like one point of view, it's multiple. So I listen
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: and I'll move on after this. If TJ got paid,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: I'm just being real. I don't blame him only because
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: as a child actor that he was, he's only used
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: to working for conversation and and and and to.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Film a reality show is a lot of work. And
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: I get it, and I get it, but but but.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: It also questions the integrity of this genre because it's
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: one thing to say he's my best friend who I'm
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: interested in, but it's one thing to not really reveal
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: that there's something else going on that we may not know,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: so it's all confusing.
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: That's that's the piece that's confusing.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Claudia, I think.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: They should be paid.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: I think it would avoid a lot of this because
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: I get tired of this like and you hit this
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: on so many shays, Oh they paid them to be
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: there or and or you know, and all this kind
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: of stuff.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: They should they are on part of the storyline.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: And then I think you'd also get more people willing
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: to get on there because I remember towards the end
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: of my season, well, at the end, y'all wanted me
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: to come back with someone that I was talking to
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: someone at the end and it wasn't worth it for
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: him to risk stuff in his career because he had
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: a very little successful and public career and there was
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: no monetary, you know, payment for him. So it causes
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: people to seek fake relationships and to have people come
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: play the role because there's pressure to have someone right
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: or you're the bitter cat lady that can't get a man.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: I think it probably help a lot in.
• 50:43
  Speaker 6: My opinion, anybody working need to get paid straight up.
• 50:47
  Speaker 6: So if I'm filming a show and the shit I
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: have to say is a part of what the show
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: is made of.
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: I need to be paid. I don't see any problem
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: with that.
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: Everybody working to contribute to a project needs to be paid.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Our last story of the night is the Grandam who
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: you know I love her and you know Evanie k
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Williams started this this show by discussing Karen being sentenced
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: to two years in jail one year suspended, which means
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: she's been sentenced to one.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Year in jail with the other year hanging over her head.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: She shall she do something wrong?
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: So there was a theme that played at the end.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Of this reunion that made me feel sad. And I'm
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: gonna explain to you guys why Agrey Child. That made
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: me feel sad because there's this thing going on that
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: has been said on Twitter for years about a rehearse
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: read right, and that a lot of people you can
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: tell when the reees rehearse because they step on their
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: words and it's never it's never delivered. So this to me,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: watching Karen and Ray felt like a rehearsed scene because
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: as I was watching it in real time, this is
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: when the producer side of me clicks in and I
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: wonder if my audience saw this too, So Claudia and
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Dustin would love to get your thoughts. And I'm like,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: is this me as a viewer or is this me
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: as a producer. The way you could tell a scene
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: feels rehearsed is if every single point has hit where
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: the two people talking. It's sort of like a tennis
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: match where where they they give you a you know,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: ally who basketball, they give you a word, You take it.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: So the conversation between Ray and Karen the rehearse to me,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: and by rehearse, guys, what I mean is this that
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: they talked about it. They said, let's let's drive these
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: points home, the medication, the antidepressants, the beer. And then
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: I got this because of that, no one talks like
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: that in real life. And I felt sad because for me,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: it was one of those things where I'm like, raise
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: the good man, Savannah.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: I just felt bad because I felt sad. I'm sorry.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: I felt sad because I'm like, I wonder if there's
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: any sort of accountability that's going to happen, because I
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: think that's I think that's.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: The way for you to win in the end. And
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: I didn't see that in that scene to.
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: Me me either, and that scene for first of all,
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: had I been producing that scene, I would have cut
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: the cameras and had a full stop meeting with Karen
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: and Ray right then and been like, we can't turn
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: that in.
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: Y'all are being real. If we're going to do.
• 53:57
  Speaker 6: This, we need to show the reality of what's going
• 53:59
  Speaker 6: on your household right now, because that ain't it.
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: Karen looked beautiful. I'll say that.
• 54:04
  Speaker 6: She looks stunning in that white cable knit, you know,
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: sweater dress. Her hair look good, She looked good. You know,
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: I feel bad for Ray. It don't feel good to
• 54:13
  Speaker 6: watch an eighty some year old man who really just
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: want to be sitting down somewhere watching CBS, drinking some coffee,
• 54:20
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: Being old, that's all you want to do. But he
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: has to be.
• 54:24
  Speaker 6: Out at court, pulling up to recks on the side
• 54:27
  Speaker 6: of the road, trying to you know, he's still having
• 54:30
  Speaker 6: to think like a younger man and think quick on
• 54:33
  Speaker 6: his feet and come up with scenarios and schemes and
• 54:36
  Speaker 6: shit in the moment. That's too much for him at
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: that station in life, right and work, he's retired. Karen
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: has put him in several situations now because they're married.
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: It was hard to see that, You're right, that was
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: not a natural conversation between the two of them. Karen
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: was trying to say face and it made her look
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: even worse. And what it showed me was that Karen
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: don't even get it. She still don't get it at
• 54:58
  Speaker 6: whatever point that scene was filmed that it had not
• 55:01
  Speaker 6: clicked in Karen's mind that it is time to literally
• 55:04
  Speaker 6: abort mission, be fully accountable, and get this shit over with.
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: She was still trying to be persuasive in that scene
• 55:12
  Speaker 6: and add details to try to sway public opinion when
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: it's impossible to do that. So that was sad to see.
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: I want Karen to go to jail and come home.
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: I'm ready for her to get that ship over with.
• 55:24
  Speaker 6: Come out of jail, get on the Zimpie, be a
• 55:27
  Speaker 6: fashion week, you know what I'm saying, at front row
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: with her daughter and have that comeback arc and when
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: she come out of jail, Karen can go into her bag.
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: But I guess.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Stewart, did you know what I mean?
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: Like a woman?
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Get with that stylist that
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: was working with fantaso.
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: And that that's doing. Get with him, get.
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: Your ass to fashion Week in Paris, in New York
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: and Milan, get on the scene, Karen, and just you know,
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: try to have a comeback era of sobriety. You know
• 55:59
  Speaker 6: what I'm mean saying looking good and just being present
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: because we'll be happy to have you back. We'll be
• 56:04
  Speaker 6: happy to see you once you take real accountability for
• 56:07
  Speaker 6: this and just get it the fuck over with. But
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: that lion shit her and Ray did in that video
• 56:11
  Speaker 6: did not help at all.
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: Great.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: I think those are all fantastic. I agree with a
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: lot everything you said.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: I will say this, you know, I do think, okay,
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: how much of that was them with the self rehearsal,
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: pre planned stuff, or how much it was a negotiation
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: with producers I'll do this scene, but or maybe they
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: had talking points, because you do sometimes get points that
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: you do need to hit when you go into a scene.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: Let's just keep it, okay, that is the thing now,
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: the producer, I'm telling you what to say, but there's
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: certain things like benchmarks you do have to hit. I
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: don't know if that was I just wish. I will
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: say this, Karen, you know, I try to like always
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: have a little bit of empathy with people like that
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: have gone through a lot. But at this point, on
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: your fourth guy, you put a lot of people's lives
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: at risk, and you have gotten a lot of privilege
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: and grace, you really have, and you could have killed
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: people even one minute of driving drunk like that the
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: way she was sloppy drunk, sloppy?
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: Have I am I perfect?
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: Have I ever taken a chance on a ride home
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: where I'm like not sure?
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: And I'll never do it again. I will not do
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: it again.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: I seen horrific carr because we love, like in our
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: friends circle, we lost someone recently that tried it.
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: I'll never do it.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: It wasn't someone I was in my friend's circle, like
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: a friend of a friend, and I just saw a
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: young life that did not have to take that risk.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: And Karen, you're on your fourth one. You were given passive.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: If I was.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: Granted so many passes, I'd feel like, all right, let
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: me not tempt fake.
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: But I think what it does, it does the opposite.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: It makes you feel invincible, and having no accountability does
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: create a monster. That's kind of what we've been talking about.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: It does create monsters that seemed definitely did feel fake,
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: and I just wish. I think a lot of people
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: that are on television it's hard for them to.
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: Really let go. You're on reality, but are you really
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: letting go?
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: And Carlos, you know, with certain people it's been like
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: pulling teeth right to get them to just forget the
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: cameras there, really be real and not try to self produce.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: Self producing has made some reality shows whack, like get there, Talk, breakless,
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: be ugly, don't have your perfect makeup, don't have the
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: three sets of lashes, ugly cry.
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: I fucked up. I fucked up. I'm taking out it all.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: I'm taking this. I'm taking that for whatever your reasons are.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying whenever your drug of choices and just
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: leave it on the table. Have you not seen all
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: the examples of other people who have fucked up? So
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: people welcome Mike Tyson back in after raping a black
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: girl more than you know what I mean, Like there
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: is redemption, people still cap but r.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: Kelly, there are people who still like Diddy.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: So I'm saying the public can be forgiving. It's all
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: in the way you handle it. If you come to
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: us dirt like ugly cry and keep it a buck
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: and don't try to give us some fake ass scene.
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: People are gonna be.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: Quicker to get to that point of forgiving you and saying,
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: all right, man, layoff, let's forgive because black people are
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: very forgiving people.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: And give her another chance.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: But you may get a little harder when you kind
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: of think we're stupid, you know.
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: And I do feel bad at the hall, but he
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: looks so damn stressed out.
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he just wanted to say.
• 59:14
  Speaker 6: All them scenes when he was filming in the backyard
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: on that patio furniture and them chase lounges and shit,
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: he was happier when you saw him relaxing and resting,
• 59:22
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. He was a happier man. So,
• 59:25
  Speaker 6: you know, Ray just want to take it easy. He's
• 59:28
  Speaker 6: in that stage.
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: Car high and he cannot afford it, like his the
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: eyes look tired. His eyes look tired, and he should be.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: That's a lot of drama for a young person.
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: Imagine that.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: It's hard for It's hard for a young person in
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: those scenarios.
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: Imagine being imagine poor Ray. You know what I'm saying.
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: Karen was drunk.
• 59:47
  Speaker 6: Can you imagine Karen Hue are coming home drunk and
• 59:50
  Speaker 6: you eighty some years old. Can you imagine what that's like.
• 59:53
  Speaker 6: That's got to be a lot to deal with, you
• 59:54
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. Ray, that house was quiet. You
• 59:57
  Speaker 6: know she was pulling up at twelve thirty, one thirty
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: o'clock in the morning after the bar clos.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: Ray was good and sleep and when.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: Women want she probably was like, I give me the
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: dirty Ray.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: So we got to roll over and put your glasses
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: on and shouldn't get up. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: It's just an interruption overall.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: So well, no, so I'll say this much. I'll say
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: this much. This was a great reunion. I I love
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: seeing the ladies have fun. I thought this was Gizelle's
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: best reunion.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: She was on fire. She looked great.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: She she she she was amazing.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: Doctor Wendy was fantastic.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 6: This were you, Dustin? She ran that stage all three
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 6: parts Wendy.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: She Claudia, I'm gonna introduce you to Wendy because Johny
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: could do something together.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: I have so much respect for her, love how she
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: used her platform and speak out politically.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm a political nerd. I love that about Yeah,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: chef is to you. I love a smart girl, Yes.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: Doctor educated, beautiful, got the family has all the elements
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: and yeah.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Now, so I want to give a shout out to
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: I think. I think, like all Star Games, we get
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: the MVP. I think Giselle and Doctor Wendy deserve the
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: MV the MVP award this reunion. They were spectacular the
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: moment the show started, all the way back from part one.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: So shout out to them. Dustin A. Claudia. This has
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: been amazing and fun so much.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: We need to hang out more.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: I'm in Dallas, I'm back home. I'll be here until
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: I'm on I'm on tour with.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: The play Games Women Play. It's a Jakarrie's Johnson play.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: So we're going to be in Houston the thirteenth through
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: the sixth, fourteenth through the sixteenth, so we have a
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: bunch of cities.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: We're doing People Missing People Miss You on YouTube.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: I know, I mean, I listen. I love I loved
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: Cocktail of the Queens. I love doing TJS.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: Every single place I go, people still ask.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: Me like they're like, you know, in these political times,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: like we need a place where we can like have
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: fun and get informed and you know, accidentally informed. We're
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: trying to build that up, the numbers on. You know,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: we're building that right now. But I miss it too.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: I want to do more of this. I do love
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: talking with the folks and you know.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Claudia, The Real House Bass of Atlanta is
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: premiering March night. Am I okay to invite you back
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: to recap one.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Episode with me and Dustin?
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: Of course?
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: Okay, good, I'm gonna start watching more. I know people
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: like she don't even watched. I need to get back
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: on Potomacca. Watching today, I was like, I'm gonna go
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: back and really get into it because it is. But
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: I honestly, I have been so stuck in politics with
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: this election.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, very very hands on. So yeah, all I've been
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: consuming for like two years, you know.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah anytime. Okay, No, we we we all miss
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: you and Dustin. I love you so Claudia and usin Laudia.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Ladies first at the world now where they can find you,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: follow you and support you.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: Beauty at Claudia.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: Join on Instagram.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: I'm always on there.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: I'm always getting a shadow band from my anti Trump
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: views whatever you Can't Silence Me and the stage play
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: Games Women Play, and also every Wednesday with Erica Cobb,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: Accidents Ly Informed on YouTube, Spotify and where we get
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: your podcasts and a bunch of movies coming out. So yeah,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: hollo me. I miss all you people, all y'all supporters.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: I love y'all. Thank you so much for the love.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: That's then.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 6: Yes, so shout out to everybody who supported my show.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: As you know, was so blessed.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 6: I sold out City Winery, New York from my very
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 6: first stand up comedy show, yes on March seventeenth, and
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: the God is good. They offered me a second show
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 6: because there were so many people on the wait list.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 6: It was just I'm overwhelmed with the tremendous support I got.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 6: So there's a second show available. You can find a
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 6: link to the show in my bio. It's on March seventeenth,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 6: Saint Patrick's Day here in New York City at City Winery.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 6: So I'm really excited my very first stand up show.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: It's on Saint Patrick's Day and the show is called
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: FSPD with stands for Fuck Saint Patrick's Day. And I
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 6: can't wait to tell you why I felt like that.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 6: So if you want to come, come on down Mark seventeenth.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 6: The ticket link is in my bio at look at
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 6: dustin all the way across.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: So dust the two shows at Saint Donco.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 6: You have a two show show. So first show, same night, yup, Carlos.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 6: You know if I'm gonna do it, We're gonna do it.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 6: So first show doors at six pm, showtime at seven
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 6: thirty pm. The second show, and then the meet and
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 6: greet is immediately after that. Second show doors at nine thirty,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 6: showtime ten pm. And there is a VIP meet and
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 6: greet option available for that as well.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: So come fuck with me.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna make y'all laugh on March seventeenth at City
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 6: Winery here in New York City. Thank you to everybody
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 6: that purchased tickets and I'll see all them nothing.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: You're so talented and so smart, and you're smart, talented
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: and sexy and everybody wants to have sex with you,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: so like.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: Thank you. I love having sex.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 6: So that man, you just made me feel so that
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 6: that's how you affirm your friends, right there.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: You know sex is important to me. Thank you, I
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  Speaker 3: Here's the bomb. Everything he does. He never hears them
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  Speaker 3: everything he does. So I don't know about section because
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  Speaker 3: I never had sex with him, but he is, you
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  Speaker 3: know obviously.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I'm sure he's good at that as well.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you, Frand, I love you so Claudia.
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  Speaker 2: Dustin, thank you so much. I'll see you next week.
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