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LNC Gets Grouchy Over Shakespeare · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large Nerdrun Collider podcast, the
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  Speaker 1: podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
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  Speaker 1: world around us and how very excited we are about them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Aerial caston and with me is always the ever
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  Speaker 1: wonderful Jonathan Strickland.
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  Speaker 2: Say my name three times and I will mad show up.
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  Speaker 2: Jonathan Strickland.
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan Strickland, Jonathan Strickland.
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  Speaker 2: You stumbled on number two, so luckily I'm still here.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I mean you've already shown up. So you didn't
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  Speaker 1: say you disappear.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. I did not. I mean I probably will
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  Speaker 2: if I hear my name said that many times. I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be like, something bad is happening. I did
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  Speaker 2: not want to be here.
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  Speaker 1: You just can't, I mean fair. You just can't put
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  Speaker 1: a shiny red button out there and not expect someone.
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  Speaker 2: To push it. So, yeah, that's true. The candy like button,
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  Speaker 2: as Ren and Stimpy would say, Welcome.
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  Speaker 1: Back y'all from Rend Stimpy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a Ren and Stimpy episode called Space Madness
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  Speaker 2: where Wren gives Stimpy the the task of guarding a
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  Speaker 2: red button that says, under no circumstances push this button
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  Speaker 2: something like that, do not push essentially I need It's like,
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  Speaker 2: there's this button, this is why does the button do red?
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  Speaker 2: That's just it. Nobody knows so and you're gonna stand
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  Speaker 2: here and guard it.
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  Speaker 1: So I've heard that phrase since I started doing like LARPing,
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  Speaker 1: because we'd be like, oh, we put the candy red
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  Speaker 1: shiny button or whatever out there, some version of that.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know it was from Ren and Stippy because
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  Speaker 1: I've never I don't like Ren and Stimpy and I've
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  Speaker 1: never watched it. And it's not one of those things
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  Speaker 1: like log that has skipping the mud Skipper that has
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  Speaker 1: made it into my Oh that's where it's.
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  Speaker 2: From, that particular or the happy Happy Joy Joy song. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 2: the space madness one. Like I mean, obviously there's some
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  Speaker 2: of the elements of that super close up growth kind
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  Speaker 2: of animation in it, but it's I think it's one
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  Speaker 2: of the more coherent storylines of the of the entire series.
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  Speaker 2: But the idea is that that Wren is suffering from
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  Speaker 2: space madness because he's he's too bored, he doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: enough to keep him occupied, and Stimpy because he's so simple,
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  Speaker 2: is immune to space madness. And then Wren puts Stimpy
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  Speaker 2: in charge of guarding the super emergency button and a narrator.
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  Speaker 2: At one point is like the the shiny candy like button.
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  Speaker 2: Can he hold out? Will he hold out? And as
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  Speaker 2: you can imagine, Stimpy gives into temptation and pushes the button.
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  Speaker 2: I won't spoil anything further from there. It is. It
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  Speaker 2: is one of those that I think everyone should watch
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  Speaker 2: just because of how goofy it is. However, that was
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  Speaker 2: not one of the things I watched since the last
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  Speaker 2: time we recorded. And this is the point in the
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  Speaker 2: show where we talk about the last thing we watched
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  Speaker 2: since the last time we recorded. So, Ariel, what sort
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  Speaker 2: of stuff have you been watching since our last get together?
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  Speaker 1: I mean mainly Boulderskate, And by that I mean playing it,
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  Speaker 1: playing it, and it's also kind of watching It's hard
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  Speaker 1: because I definitely need a second and maybe a third
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  Speaker 1: play through because this time I'm trying to play it
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  Speaker 1: the right way and not miss quests and not do
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  Speaker 1: things to like so like I've done some cheating on this.
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  Speaker 2: Looking up walkthroughs and stuff, a little bit of like
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  Speaker 2: looking up walkthroughs or really quest order, are there any quests?
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  Speaker 2: That I shouldn't, you know, right, Like if you if
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  Speaker 2: you jump into one quest, does that close off other
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  Speaker 2: opportunities that you should have done earlier?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And then I mean a little bit of like
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  Speaker 1: checking out character approval disapprovals.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it because, like I don't know about you,
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  Speaker 2: But when I play generally, I think I've talked about
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  Speaker 2: this before, but when I play RPGs, I always want
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  Speaker 2: to play like sort of a paragon of virtue type character,
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  Speaker 2: someone who makes selfless choices and helps the people as
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  Speaker 2: much as as they can. That kind of thing. And
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  Speaker 2: the beautiful thing about Balder's Gate three is there is
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  Speaker 2: no quote unquote wrong way to play it. Like you're
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  Speaker 2: telling a story. That story might have a incredibly unhappy ending,
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  Speaker 2: or it might have an unhappy ending. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: there are any happy endings for Balder's Gate three, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't know because I haven't gotten that far.
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  Speaker 1: I think that there are, based on my spoilers and
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  Speaker 1: things like that, I think that there are. It is
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  Speaker 1: it is so like I have I have a little
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  Speaker 1: home group chat chat with a couple of my very
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  Speaker 1: good friends that are also replaying it, so they finish
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  Speaker 1: their first play through and they're playing their second and
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  Speaker 1: or third with new characters and new choices, because they're
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  Speaker 1: playing it the way you would play an actual RP.
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  Speaker 1: This is my character. What choices am I going to make?
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  Speaker 1: Not how do I want this story to unfold? But
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  Speaker 1: rather these choices are and you know, depending on the
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  Speaker 1: order of what you do things and which party members
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  Speaker 1: you have in your party, because you can only have
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  Speaker 1: three of them, and you get way more than three.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, so the order depends where you go to first,
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  Speaker 1: the party members, and even just time from time, Like,
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  Speaker 1: there have been a couple of times where I've accidentally,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm playing on the PS five and so sometimes
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  Speaker 1: if I scroll down to the answer I want super
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  Speaker 1: fast and click on it, the joystick will pop back
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  Speaker 1: up and choose the wrong option and I'll have to
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  Speaker 1: go back. And I really like but I it does
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  Speaker 1: the game doesn't save very often, so to go back,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, now I'm gonna have to replay this
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  Speaker 1: scene again. And the stuff leading up to the scene
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  Speaker 1: is different because they've made it variable, right, and it
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  Speaker 1: also depends on like your approval ratings and things like that,
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  Speaker 1: So it is a very different game. It can be
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  Speaker 1: a very different gameplay each time you play it. And
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  Speaker 1: they also just released a patch, like a new, big
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  Speaker 1: old patch with a bunch of new stuff in it.
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  Speaker 2: So which just tells me that I've got to play
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  Speaker 2: it again. But the problem I face now is that
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  Speaker 2: the computer I had played it on is pretty much dead.
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  Speaker 2: Like I can sometimes get it to run, but it
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  Speaker 2: can crash very frequently, and uh, there's obviously something wrong.
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  Speaker 2: It's a laptop. There's obviously something wrong with the battery,
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  Speaker 2: because if the power cable gets jiggled even a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: it will it will turn off, which tells me that
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  Speaker 2: the battery must not be properly seated, because otherwise the
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  Speaker 2: battery should continue to supply power even if you unplug
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  Speaker 2: the laptop, and it's it's not like like it's I
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  Speaker 2: had it plugged in all the time. It's not like
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  Speaker 2: I had drained the battery down to nothing. So I
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  Speaker 2: ended up switching to a different computer. But this computer
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  Speaker 2: cannot run games like that, and so I'm in the
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  Speaker 2: same position you were in like last year, where I
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  Speaker 2: don't have a machine capable of running the game right now,
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  Speaker 2: and so I want to get back into it. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind of stuck until I either get a new
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  Speaker 2: computer or figure out what the heck has happened to
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  Speaker 2: the one that I have that is janky.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally get that. I my computer doesn't do
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  Speaker 1: a lot, but so I'm playing through that and like,
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  Speaker 1: but the problem is, like I I was playing it
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  Speaker 1: on normal mode and then I switched over to easy
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  Speaker 1: because there are a couple of fights that I just
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  Speaker 1: after trying them like four or five times, couldn't get
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  Speaker 1: through on normal, And thankfully the game lets you choose
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  Speaker 1: back and like it lets you go back and forth
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  Speaker 1: on difficulty. I think I don't know after this patch,
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  Speaker 1: but at least before the patch, the only difference was
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  Speaker 1: if you were on like the easy mode, like I'm
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  Speaker 1: playing this for the story, not for the challenge, then
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  Speaker 1: you couldn't multi class, which happens in Act two, which
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  Speaker 1: I'm in now. So I don't know if I could
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  Speaker 1: multi class now. I probably could if I changed it
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  Speaker 1: to normal and I went to Withers and I spent
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  Speaker 1: the money, I could probably multi class. But yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I just I'm trying to play it the right way
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  Speaker 1: so I don't miss anything, just in case I don't
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  Speaker 1: have time to play it again, and I do feel
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  Speaker 1: like that's I just want to I want to play
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  Speaker 1: it again with like no cares and see what happens different,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So I think part of it is just
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  Speaker 1: being afraid that I'm playing it wrong, Like am I
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  Speaker 1: short resting? Am I long? Well, you can't short rest
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  Speaker 1: too often? But am I long resting too often? Because
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  Speaker 1: I'm not great at the game yet?
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  Speaker 2: No, I hear you, Like I always felt like the
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  Speaker 2: resting thing always made me feel weird because sometimes I'd
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  Speaker 2: be like, I need to rest or I will get
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  Speaker 2: my butt handed to me in this next cop frontation.
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  Speaker 2: But by the logic of the game, I shouldn't rest
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  Speaker 2: because by then too much time will have passed and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and I won't be able to achieve whatever it is
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  Speaker 2: that I'm supposed to achieve.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, or and like that's not always the case, I think.
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  Speaker 1: I do think it is more like based on how
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  Speaker 1: many long rests after you hit certain quests, So it's
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  Speaker 1: not in general so like in Act one, after you
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  Speaker 1: hit the gobbling camp, if you don't do anything and
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  Speaker 1: you rest too many times or something like that, you
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  Speaker 1: might lose out on rescuing the te flings or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: but or rescuing the grove. But I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: for certain. But I do hit like long periods where
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  Speaker 1: none of my companions are furthering, like the personal quests,
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  Speaker 1: and that's like the fun part, right, seeing how your outcomes.
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  Speaker 1: And so I'm like, have I rested too much? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I've only rested twice. But I also understand they can't
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  Speaker 1: just give you all that information up front.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and sometimes they're the continuation of their story only
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  Speaker 2: happens when you rest.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And so like to I did the Act
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  Speaker 1: one and I'd say, sorry, guys, this may not be
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  Speaker 1: interesting to anybody, but I did Act one in kind
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  Speaker 1: of a slightly weird order because I had read that
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  Speaker 1: you want to do Gobbling Camp early and so it
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  Speaker 1: was very high level for me. I made it through,
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  Speaker 1: and I made it through on normal, but it took
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  Speaker 1: a while, but I missed out on a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: stuff in the.
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  Speaker 2: Emerald growth because of that.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, there's no wrong way to play the game,
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  Speaker 1: but it does definitely change your gameplay. I will say
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  Speaker 1: that I do notice that, like occasionally characters will act like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you've been through all this before, But I hadn't because
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  Speaker 1: I did it in a different order, or like all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden, after having like four or five long
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  Speaker 1: rests of nothing, my characters spill out like five different
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  Speaker 1: plot lines at once, And I'm like, I don't. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't think I was playing it that wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Considering the the just the sheer number of potential ways
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  Speaker 2: that you could play through that game, I'm not surprised
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  Speaker 2: that little hiccups like that can occasionally slip through. I'm
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  Speaker 2: actually surprised it doesn't happen more frequently. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: just because because that game is so complicated.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I picked up Karlac pretty late in the game,
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  Speaker 1: and then I didn't really because I'm playing a barbarian.
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  Speaker 1: In Karlac's a barbarian. She's the teefling with the infernal engine.
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  Speaker 2: So you're not having her be part of your party
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  Speaker 2: most of the time.
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  Speaker 1: No, No, because anytime she's in my party, and she
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  Speaker 1: can pick up and throw somebody that's a little too
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  Speaker 1: heavy for me to pick up and throw because I'm
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  Speaker 1: the smaller body size. She's a larger body size, and
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  Speaker 1: it does affect how much you can pick up. Like
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  Speaker 1: it makes me mad. So Aerl gets throw in the
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  Speaker 1: she's yes, she's a great character, but she's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know these things, and I'm like do I We
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  Speaker 1: didn't talk about them. So I'm gonna see one of
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  Speaker 1: those friends this weekend. We're gonna be in the same place,
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  Speaker 1: so I'll have to ask them if if they've had
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  Speaker 1: a similar situation where it's like nothing, nothing, nothing, and
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, all of this stuff, and like,
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  Speaker 1: because I I didn't think that I skipped so much
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  Speaker 1: after I picked her up that we wouldn't have had
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  Speaker 1: those moments before.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know. Well, I also wonder if some
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  Speaker 2: of that may have anything to do with the fact
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  Speaker 2: that you're playing a console version of the game, because
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  Speaker 2: obviously it's not like you have to make specific, you know,
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  Speaker 2: development in order to create a console version of a
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  Speaker 2: PC game. So it's possible that some of the stuff
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  Speaker 2: you're running into has to do with some conversion issues, right, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: where it's not that you're doing anything wrong, it's that
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  Speaker 2: maybe the console version. And I apologize for my dog,
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  Speaker 2: but maybe the console he is he's been excited for
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  Speaker 2: the last half hour, but yeah, maybe some of those
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  Speaker 2: things are due to conversion errors. It's hard to say,
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  Speaker 2: like it might be a combination of the two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean that being said, I'm still enjoying it.
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  Speaker 1: I love the variability. I love so when I first
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  Speaker 1: got a Sterian and Will, they bickered for like an
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  Speaker 1: hour of my gameplay and it was delightful. So they've
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  Speaker 1: put a lot of thought and effort into this game,
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  Speaker 1: and I really enjoy it. And I'm very much enjoying it.
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  Speaker 1: But I also don't have like so my husband when
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  Speaker 1: I go he's a much more of an idol than
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  Speaker 1: I am. So when I go to bed, he's up
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  Speaker 1: for several hours and he can play a video game
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  Speaker 1: for several hours. Me, I have to like fit it in.
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  Speaker 1: Either I have to wake up earlier than I want
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  Speaker 1: to because I don't like waking up so early to
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  Speaker 1: play and that seems just not fun. Or I have
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  Speaker 1: to like squeeze it in so so like I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to like mainline it at least once so that I
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  Speaker 1: make their sure I get through it because I'm enjoying
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  Speaker 1: the story and I want to finish it. And then
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  Speaker 1: after that, on any absequent playthroughs, it won't be as often,
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  Speaker 1: it won't be as rushed, But you know, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: I want I'm enjoying it, and I want to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that I finished the game, because it's so easy
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  Speaker 1: to put a game down once you started it, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No, I mean yeah, because I've done it
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  Speaker 2: with Boulder's Gate three, where like I got fairly deep
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  Speaker 2: into Act two. Probably not. I probably wasn't close to
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  Speaker 2: finishing it, but maybe closer to like the halfway mark,
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  Speaker 2: because these acts are huge. Yeah, but I was getting
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  Speaker 2: into a part of Act two, maybe even Act three.
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  Speaker 2: I might have actually been into Act three, but anyway
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  Speaker 2: I was, I had not reached Boulder's Gate at all.
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  Speaker 2: That's probably too then. It probably is, it probably is.
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  Speaker 2: It's it was just it was one of those areas
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  Speaker 2: where I was like, oh, I gotta save up for that.
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  Speaker 2: It was after you come back up from underground, so okay,
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  Speaker 2: I had done all the underground stuff and I was
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  Speaker 2: back above ground.
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  Speaker 1: So you were right. So you were probably after doing
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  Speaker 1: Sharstlet and fighting Raphael's enemy, and probably right before going
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  Speaker 1: to the shadow Fell.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what any of that is. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I do know what the Gauntlet is. I did finish
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  Speaker 2: the Gauntlet. I remember that, because I had to look
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  Speaker 2: at walkthroughs for that. It was just I was getting
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  Speaker 2: annihilated every every attempt. But yeah, I haven't. But then
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  Speaker 2: part of that now is, yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm
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  Speaker 2: out of the under dark. There was like some sort
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  Speaker 2: of city, like abandoned city that I was going through,
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  Speaker 2: or ruins of some sort that I was going through,
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  Speaker 2: and that's where, and there was like like a cult
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  Speaker 2: or something that had taken up there. I can't remember,
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  Speaker 2: so I.
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  Speaker 1: Think you were on the cusp of two and three.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably where. Okay, So that's that's kind of where
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  Speaker 2: I was at. And then obviously like it was a
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  Speaker 2: combination of me kind of stepping away from the game,
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  Speaker 2: which I did. I did way before my computer decided
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  Speaker 2: to poop out on me. But then my computer pooped
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  Speaker 2: out on me and didn't give me the option of
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  Speaker 2: coming back. So, well, what have you watched besides yourself
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  Speaker 2: playing boulders Gate three?
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  Speaker 1: Oh thank goodness, I'm not watching myself because that would
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  Speaker 1: be miserable.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I watched the final episode of season one of Daredevil
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  Speaker 1: Born Again, which is coming back next year, so pretty
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  Speaker 1: quick turnaround on second season. I will say the final, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like they could have finished the season one
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  Speaker 1: or two episodes earlier when they dealt with Muse, which
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  Speaker 1: is who they set up to be the big bad
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  Speaker 1: of this season. The last episode of Daredevil was gory
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  Speaker 1: in a way that I was not prepared for. Kingpin
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  Speaker 1: did some Kingpin stuff that to quote my husband, because
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  Speaker 1: I looked away, I knew, I knew, and I looked away,
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  Speaker 1: and he said that was far different and far worse
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  Speaker 1: than I had imagined. Like the look on his face
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  Speaker 1: was of sheer horror and I rarely see that. And
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  Speaker 1: then he explained to me what happened. I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad I didn't watch it, but it was it's
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  Speaker 1: it's I don't want to spoil anything. It was good.
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  Speaker 1: It was really good. I just I it was a
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  Speaker 1: lot at points and I had to look away. So
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  Speaker 1: I watched that. I am looking forward to season two.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I watch I'm still working through Abbot Elementary. I really
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  Speaker 1: like it. I just it's one of those things that
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I watch on my own time. Because Tony wasn't an educator.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: He's he's a great person, he's great with kids, but
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: he never worked in the educational field and so like,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: these things don't necessarily hit home for him. So I'm
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: watching that. I am going through the newest season of
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Harley Quinn, which I don't know if you're there, so
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know if.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: We're I'm like three seasons behind you in season three,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: then I.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Won't say anything. But the latest episode I watched was fun.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: And then I watched the trailer. It's such a it's
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: like a thirty second teaser for the new actual play
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: on Dimension twenty skyward Hoe, and it looks amazing. It's
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: like a steampunk airship sort of an adventure, and it's
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: using the Intrepid heroes, and so I am very I mean,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I'm already looking forward to watching it because that group
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: of players they had, they work really well together. Emily
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: and Murph and Lou and Ali and Shavon and.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Zach.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: They all work really well together. So I really like theirs.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: There are seasons, and so.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to this one awesome. Well for me,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: I did watch the one year later Game Changers episode
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: and very very much enjoyed that. Becca and I watched
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: it together.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I told you it was worth like a full watch.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we did. We watched the whole thing. So I
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: think I had watched the beginning of it by myself,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: and then I was like, no, Becca's gonna love this,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: and so we went back in. Oh good, now I
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: got a train and my dog. But anyway, we went.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: We went and watched it together and we both really
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: enjoyed it. And then we watched the try guy's attempt
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: to go a day where the only food and entertainment
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: options they would allow themselves would have to come from
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: vending machines, and that was kind of disastrous, and it
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: also involved a segment that I was horrified by. So
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I had to show Beca, and then I showed her
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: and then she like her jaw dropped. So context my partner, Yeah,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: my partner, Beca works in the airline industry, so I
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: have like everyone knows generally about good and bad things
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: to do if you were trying to book a ticket somewhere,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: but we're particularly sensitive to it because Beca's been in
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: the airline industry for more than twenty years now. And
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: in one of the sections, they get this bright idea
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: of we're having trouble finding vending machines, what if we
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: sent somebody through the I think it was lax and
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: got the cheapest flight somewhere so that they could go
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: through security, get some food from venting machines, potentially fly
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: to a different city, get food from ventting machines there,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: and then fly back home by the end of the day.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: So Zach the try guys, walks up to a desk
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: and says, what's your cheapest flight? And the attendant's like
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: to where he's like to anywhere, And you could tell
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: that the gate agent is or the desk agent is confused,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: like to Vegas, like sure or Vegas or wherever? Well,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: what time? Anytime? And then the next shot is Zach
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: walking back to the car saying they did not like
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: that question. I'm like, of course they didn't. If you
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: walk up to a desk at an airport and say
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I want your cheapest flight, I don't care where it
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: goes or what time it leaves. I just need to
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: get through security. That's the kind of thing a crazy
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: person and or terrorists would do. So of course they're
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: not gonna like you do it. So when I watched that,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: I was just I was flabbergasted. I was like, I can't.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: This is the sort of thing that gets you put
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: on lists and I showed it to Becca. Beca was
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: just like, I can't believe how dumb that was. Generally speaking,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I'll say that episode was not nearly as entertaining as
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: the year later Game Changers. I thought that was that
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: was a masterpiece. I agree with you, Ariel. I think
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: you said that after you watch it, you like, how
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: the heck did where do they go from here?
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: And I get what you mean, because like it was spectacular.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: They had a narrative, like there was a story to
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: it beyond just crazy responses to the prompts.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Well, you watch I don't know if you watched the
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: making of it afterwards.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: No, there's like.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: A forty minute making of where they show like the
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: full Vix musical, which is not that.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Long, but it feels like it would be, just because
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: so many different excerpts are shown.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in the episode, so it it's like a twenty
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: minute sort of a thing. Yeah, but there is just
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: so much that they cut out of that episode and
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: then like even just seeing that after the because they
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: usually cut this out because they played the shows for
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: the drama and the irritation of it, right, Like they
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: show people being irritated that they didn't get the game
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: or that the game is what it is. These they
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: were so excited to do this episode. They were so
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: excited for this challenge, and it's delightful to see it.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: So I know you've got a lot on your plate
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: and your watch list is long, but the making of
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: that episode is also a wonderful, wonderful watch and you
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: get to see so much more of what they did.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Well. I would say that if you were thinking about
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: getting a dropout TV subscription out there, y'all, Game Changers
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: alone is worth it. Yeah, there's so much on there
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: beyond Game Changers, and there's a lot. It's a great content,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: but I mean, this is some of the best stuff
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I've watched in a while. I've also continued to watch
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Harley Quinn. But like I said, I'm still several seasons
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: behind you. I think it's season three that I'm in,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: but I'm not. I can't be sure. Like I after
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: a point, you don't even pay attention because you're just
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: hitting next episode, right, So I don't really know, but
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I think it's season three. I know it's after season
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: two at least, so it's either three or later. Still
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: enjoying that one other thing I want to mention that
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I tried a little bit of but haven't really been
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: able to dive into again because I don't have a
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: computer that can properly play this game. I just thought
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: maybe I could based upon the little I knew about
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: it turns out I'm wrong. I played a little bit
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: of blue Prints.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Everybody I know has been loving that game. I can't
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: touch it because it's a puzzle game, and I will
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: feel so dumb.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: It's not that bad. It makes me think a lot
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: of betrayal at the House on the Hill as far
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: as the game mechanics are concerned, because the basic idea
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: and I'm not going to talk too much about it
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: because it's the type of game that benefits from exploration
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: and experimentation, so I don't want to rob anyone of
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: that joy. But the idea is that you have been
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: willed this estate, and it's a mansion that has forty
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: five rooms, and your goal is to get to the
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: forty sixth room of this forty five room mansion, which
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: I don't understand how that works, but that's how it's presented.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: And you start off in an entry way and it's
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: like a tile. So this is how it's like betrayal.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: On the House of the Hill, it's like a tile
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: and then it's just blackness all around you. And then
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: somewhere else on the map you see where there is
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: a forty sixth room. So on your turn you draw
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: a tile, and that tile you can then place somewhere
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: in the darkness to take up another room. But it
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: may be that that tile is like an L shaped corridor,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: so it means you're gonna have to make a turn,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: and you want to make sure you position the tile
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: in such a way where it doesn't dead into a
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: wall or something else where it can hopefully get you
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: closer to your goal. So part of it is luck based. Also,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: different rooms have different qualities to them, and sometimes linking
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: up rooms will enhance those qualities, like they'll work together
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: in order to give you better chances to make it
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: to the end. And I only got to play a
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: little bit of it, but it was clear my computer
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: couldn't handle it. I was getting visual artifacts that were
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: making it impossible to play where I couldn't see the UI,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, so I had to stop. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: I was able to play for like fifteen minutes and
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: then it just got to a point where I was like,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I can't even see the tile to be able to
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: choose which one I want to be my next one.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: I can click randomly and get a tile, but I
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: don't know what it is and until I place it,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: and then it may be that it was exactly the
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: wrong tile, Like it's just a dead end, that kind
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: of thing. But I also love that the title is
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: a pun blue prints.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I just got that.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it took me a bit before it hit me. Anyway,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: That's what I've been up to mostly. I've just been
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: working and doing my best not to go insane whenever
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not working, and it mostly involves me watching lots
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: of YouTube instead of watching longer form narrative content.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. I just had to
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: re up my my list of like shows what I
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: want to watch because I want to watch Bondsman, I
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: want to watch the Studio, I want to watch murder Bot.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I want to watch you know, the first episodeisode, or
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I want to watch the show that's the first article
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: on our sixty seconds or less. I've only seen the
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: first episode so far.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Ah, And that's a great segue for us to go
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: to sixty seconds or less, and I have the first story.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: So some sad news for Mythic Quest fans like me
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: and now Ariel. After four seasons, Apple TV Plus has
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: canceled the series. There is a silver lighting, however, to
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: this dark cloud. The final episode of season four originally
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: aired on March twenty sixth, and it ended in a cliffhanger,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: but Apple actually gave the show creators the chance to
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: re edit the episode and create an ending that has
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: more closure to it. So now Mythic Quest has two
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: different endings. I have not yet seen them, but I'm
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: looking forward to it.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I think that's really cool. So, like I'm sad it's canceled.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Four seasons is not a bad run, but I'm glad
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: they were given the opportunity to close it up the
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: way they wanted. Next news, this is going to be
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: a real quick one. Harry Potter TV show is casting,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: has a not so a lot of casting, and it's
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: a lot of actors that I love their work. So
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I'm really said that I don't want to watch the show.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: John Lidgow as Albus Dumbledore, Jenet McTeer as Minerva McGonagall
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: a Sidu sever Snape and Nick Frost.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: As Rebus Hagrid.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I did have a friend who's like, you can't, you
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: can't recast sever snape, And of course you can. It's
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: it's just going to be a completely different thing for
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: a different audience. In that audience is not me.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Also you have to because if you don't recast,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: it is a tub corpse, which fits within Harry Potter.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: But stuff, yeah, uh rip all right, Alan rickuinn we
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: loved you. Oh I so rip Harry Potter. Well. Also
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: that when Star Wars first hit theaters in nineteen seventy seven,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: it did not have a subtitle. There was no a
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: New Hope. Moss Eisley wasn't merely as populated. Job of
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: the Hut didn't show up at all. Han shot first,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: and in June the British Film Institute's Film On Festival
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: will screen a rare print of this original cut of
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: the movie, something you can otherwise only see if you
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: happen to have a ratty old VHS version. Will more
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: screenings follow, Only one can have.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: A New Hope, clever pun I really hope so, because
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I don't want to have to take up cat Burglary
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: to get that print. Speaking of Star Wars, from May,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: the fourth Lego is releasing nine new Star Wars sets.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: None of them are as big as or brilliant as
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: like the Atat or the Millennium Falcon.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Like the really Giant One, or the Death Star or
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: the Death Star.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: But there are some cute ones. You're getting Django FETs,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Fire Spray Starship, my favorite, the Star Wars logo. I
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: don't know why, but that one appeals to me and
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: is something like I would decorate with. You can also
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: get an astromech droid or Kylo Ren's helmet or Django
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Fett's helmet, or a command Kylo Ren's Command shuttle, which
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: is like, I don't know, like their fancy.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: One, but it's not that great.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: A you wing then like some brickheads, which I'll admit
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I like some of the brickheads, but not these.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Well the head haunchos that Warner Brothers gave an interview
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: with Deadline in which they revealed some rather unsurprising but
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: potentially welcome news. For one, there are plans for a
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: third Beetle Juice movie. Presumably it'll be titled Beetle Juice,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Beetle Juice, Beetle Juice. I hope it is a good movie.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I hope it has at least one plot, fewer than
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: the last one did, and even less of a surprise
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: than that is. There are plans for a seql to
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: the Minecraft movie. Here's hoping for fewer chickens released into
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: theaters for that one.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: For sure, they should name I realized it should be
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: beetle Juice, beetle Juice, beetle Juice, but they should name
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: the third beetle Juice movie thritle Juice. Okay, I love it,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: unlike I was just okay about beal Juice too. But anyhow, yes,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: oh golly, hey, Ariel, you have a brain. This is
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: our last sixty second or last I had to confirm. Okay.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Sam Neil, who is responsible for a good quarter of
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: my positive serotonin lately because his TikTok farm videos are amazing,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: has joined the next Godzilla times Godzilla in Kong. It's
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Godzilla x Kong movie, The New Empire. We still don't
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: really know what the story is about, but we know
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: that he's joining Caitlyn Dinner and Jack O'Connell and Dan Stevens.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: That's a great cast for a popcorn hi high production
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: value but b quality story. Monster movie.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I actually don't know the story. Maybe it's the best
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: one of them. Ye. I do know that Grant's Putty
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Ptore is set to direct. But when I read the
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: article on the Hollywood Reporter, his last name is spelled
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: sp u t o r E, and I read it
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: as spoot Or, and I thought he was going to
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: be the villain.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: So, M yeah, I think I wrote uh, King Kong
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: ex Godzilla simply because I don't know that they're going
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: to fight each other, so I don't know if it'll
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: be a versus or a team up.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: They're teaming up according to the Hollywood Reporter. But the
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Hollywood Reporter article it's also Godzilla x Kong.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Got it okay, So it wasn't just me. Yeah. Well,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: moving on to our actual stories. Oh well, first of all,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I forgot we have our ur doesn't quite fit our storyline.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: But we're gonna talk about them real quick.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: We can skip them if you want.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Nope, nope, we made the wet went through the trouble
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: of watching them and writing them down. We're gonna talk
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: about him real quick. So first up, we've got a
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: comedy that is about a bunch of middle aged couples
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: in various stages of their well, one of the one
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: of those a middle aged man and a young woman,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: but a bunch of couples that are in various stages
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: in their relationships all getting together. It's called Four Seasons.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: This was one that Ariel brought to the table.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a bunch of well known comedians who
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: have been known for kind of their out there kind
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: of comedy just being relatable and showing, you know, real
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: relationships and the ups and downs of it. And it's
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: it's nice to have something a little grounded from these people.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: So it just hit a good spot the trailer.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you got like Tina Fey and Steve Correll
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: and now people like that, Like like Ariel was saying,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: like I had mentioned when we were chatting offline, that
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: that it was it felt like it was a bunch
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: of comedians who are known for more transgressive works and
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: now they're kind of creating their mellow middle age versions
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: of comedy, and it's it's slightly less edgy, like it's
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: still going to be like I'm sure it's not gonna
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: be all like soft corners and everything, but it does
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: feel like it's perhaps less risky than some of their
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: earlier work.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but much like I love Gosh, I can't remember
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: his name all of a sudden, Why can't I remember
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: his name? Oh? Shoot, Donna Noble and The Tenth Doctor's
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: relationship because it shows just a healthy relationship on TV
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: that isn't romantic. I kind of like this. I mean,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: they're definitely like couples in this, and some of them
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: definitely have problems, but it shows you know that even
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: good relationships have their ups and downs, and that's not
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: necessarily bad and it's just something you work through. So
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: at least from the trailer again.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: I also mentioned that this is a series as opposed
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: to just a film.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Oh I thought it was a film.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: It's a series, Yeah, comedy mini series. Yeah, it's actually
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: it's based off a nineteen eighty one movie. But this
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: is a mini series. And like Tina Fey, Steve Carell,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Will Fortes in it, Coleman Domingo is in it.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah it.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I also Alan Alda is a guest on it, which
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: is very funny because he was in the original film.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be real honest. Sometimes when I see
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: these and I watch it, I don't. I'm like, ah,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: this is cute, but it doesn't fit, so I don't
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: look more into it.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: So I understand how I didn't look more into it
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: until just now. So I don't want to make it
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: seem like I knew all this going into it. I
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: did not, And I was unaware of the earlier movie
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: That was not one of the ones I watched when
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: I was a kid, even though it did come out
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: in I think eighty one, So yeah, that was that
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: was one. We saw Another one that Ariel put in here,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: which was funny because I recognized what this was after
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: I watched the trailer, but I wasn't aware that it
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: was happening. Is The Roses, which stars Benedict Cumberbatch and
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Olivia Coleman as a couple who on the outside everyone thinks,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: you know, it's a successful and relatively happy couple that
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: turns out things are not going well in their relationship.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: And after I watched the trailer, I thought, huh, the Roses.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: This seems like really similar to War of the Roses,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: which I'm familiar with as a film that had Michael
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Douglas and Kathleen Turner in it, and it was directed
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: and has a sporting role played by Danny DeVito. So
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: DeVito directed it and appears in it as a supporting character.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: And I thought, oh, this looks a lot like this
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: reminds me of War of the Roses a lot. And
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: then I looked into it and realized, oh, this is
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: This is an adaptation of the novel War of the Roses,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: which was also the source for the film in the
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: eighties that I was thinking of. And then I told Ariel,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I know how this movie ends.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I see I've never watched One of the Roses, so
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know how it ends.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Sadly, Okay, well.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: This film, yeah, it's brutal. The trailer is brutal for
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: the Roses, it said, maybe not as much as the original.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Well, the original has a particularly rough ending, but it's
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: a satire. It's a black comedy, so it is a comedy,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: but it's dark and it's based on like a couple
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: really just going to war with each other. And yeah,
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: so we'll see how that is. I probably won't watch it, honestly,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: because I've seen One of the Roses, so I don't
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: need to see this.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: I probably won't watch it. I really only added it
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: because Olivia Coleman and Benedict Cumberbatch and some people are
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: actor geeks and they like watching things like entire catalogs
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: of actor work. But speaking of dark what did you
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: think of? The next doesn't quite fit.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Trailer, So that was for Sharp Corner. Another one that
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Ariel brought to the table, and the story is that
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: there's a family. They've moved into a new house, but
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: their house is on a curve where a surprising number
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: of car accidents happen, so that there are accidents that
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: happen in front of their house on a fairly regular basis,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: including one that's a fatality. And yeah, I thought this
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: was a pretty interesting premise for a film. Like there's
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: a character who, like the husband of this family, wants
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: to do something like he wants to feel like he
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: has some sense of agency for this effect that the
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: road happens to have and either help prevent accidents or
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: perhaps respond to them. I can't tell him for sure
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: if he's completely altruistic or if he just wants to
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: be a hero. I'm not sure from the trailer, because
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: there's one moment in the trailer where I was like, huh,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: that seems like something that's meant to ensure an accident
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: actually happens.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I think that's the Yeah, it's kind of a misery
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: level mindset.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: It feels like, yeah, but that he wants to be
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: maybe the hero who responds to it. It's it's hard
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: to say based upon this trailer because obviously the trailer
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: doesn't give everything away, but it is an interesting premise
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: for a movie. And like the wife is becoming more
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: and more concerned or frustrated by her husband because she
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: feels that he's becoming far too fixated on this accident
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: thing rather than other aspects of his life that he
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: should be focusing on. Yeah.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: It originally released in twenty twenty four November at the
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Toronto Film Festival, but it's hitting theaters for wide release
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: this year, so that's why we're just seeing the trailer now.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: It stars Ben Foster, who was Angel in X Men,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: The Last Stand and Kobe Smothers who was Robin Scherbotsky
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: and How I Met Your Mother, and also Maria hillni Avengers.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's the vague connect connectivity to the geek sphere.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Then we've got a trailer for California King, which is
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: another comedy. It actually reminds me. I can't think of
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: any names off the top of my head, but the
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: basic idea is, well, actually, it kind of reminds me
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: of The Fantastics, the musical The Fantastics in that what's
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: that I've never watched The Fantastics, it's I don't you
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: probably enjoy parts of it like it's it's one of
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: those that was made in the time where it's like,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: let's create a story that on the surface seems like
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be sort of a fun, whimsical, absurd comedy,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: but then there's like kind of real dark stuff, not
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: like super dark, but like serious stuff underneath. Think of
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: something like Into the Woods something along those lines, right,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: especially with the two act structure, Like the first act
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: of The Fantastics, everything's great and the second act things
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: are not so great. But a spoiler alert for a
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: movie or a show that's been out since the nineteen sixties.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: But anyway, the California King, you have a character he's
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: got a crush on a young woman and he's trying
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: to figure out a way to be able to connect
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: with her and comes up with the clever idea of
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: faking a kidnapping of her younger brother, getting the younger
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: brother's involvement, you know, his consent essentially to be part
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: of this, but in order to try and rise to
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: the level of being a hero to impress and or
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: win over the young woman. It looks very silly. The
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: protagonist has a very dumb, supportive friend helping him out
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: with this kind of stuff, who is mostly there to
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: make things worse.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it looks cute. Honestly, it feels like one
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: of those movies we'd get in the late nineties, early
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: two thousands.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I totally even as early as the eighties,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: I could see this premise being floated.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it stars Travis Bennett, Joel McHale, Victoria Justice,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: a bunch of very funny actors.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: So Joel McHale is playing someone who you don't want
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: to mess with, like the protagonist is having to pretend
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: to be the kidnapper, and then Joel McHale turns out
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: to be a really bad customer who gets involved in
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: all this and they are quickly in over their heads.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and other actors who I think are a little
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: less pervasive but also very funny. So this one I
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: might actually watch the.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Next one on our list, California King. Oh yeah, well
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: the next one is a document I was surprised to
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: see you put this in there, although I get it
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: like a lot of the celebrities who are taking part
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: in this have been very much in the geek sphere
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: in one thing or another.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So it is a documentary about regenerative farming, which
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: is I mean, just kind of a cool topic. Anyhow,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: it looks like an interesting documentary on better farming practices
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: because you know, you hear you hear a lot of
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: a lot of times about how that's one area that
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: needs a lot of improvement.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, agriculture in general, agriculture.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: In general, and it's nice to see people kind of
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: delivering some possible solutions with some possible science behind it.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's got a it's got a very geeky
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: group of actors working on it, including Jason Momoa and
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Oh Whatdie Harrelson.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: And ros Dawson. Yeah.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it just looks interesting. So yeah, I put
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: it in there because it doesn't it's not super geeky
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: unless agricultural science is geeky to you, but which I mean,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I guess, I mean it is science yeah, you know,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: it's not pop culture geeky, but I want to watch it,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: so I put it in there.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then last on, this is one of those
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: that could have potentially gone into our actual lineup because
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: it's a horror movie and it's a slasher horror movie.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: I didn't put it in there because I feel like
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: I've been torturing Aerial with horror movie trailers a lot.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: So then again and again, slasher. I like things that
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: have like a possible like supernatural bent to them or fantastical.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: I mean I do too, but a lot of slasher
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: movies I would argue, at least imply that because often
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: the slasher absorbs so much damage that it would kill
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: an actual person, and therefore they must be supernatural. I
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: get it.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: The horror movie that completely scar One of the horror
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: movies that completely scarred me on horror movies was the
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: original Candy Man. And yes, that heroin bleeds more blood
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: than is in a human body.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah's also supernatural. I mean, yes, that is.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Fair, that is true. Uh yeah, no, I mean, but
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I also argue that Diehard is a Christmas movie. So
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: there we go. Anyway, We're not.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Going to relitigate that we've already had that discussion.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Look, I can think that you can think that generic
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: slashers are geeky. I get that they have entire and
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: they have entire conventions devoted to them. It is not
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: my thing. But I didn't watch his trailer, So Go
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: So So Pretty Boy.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: The premise is that there's a group of young people
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: who get together for a gathering where no couples are allowed.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: It's all singles, all people who are single, and you know, obviously,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: like there's the implication that the idea is that you're
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: going to end up hooking up with somebody, or maybe
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: maybe even something more substantial than just hooking up. But
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: the person who's essentially hosting the party is coming across
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: as kind of a party boy character. And then while
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: at this like singles retreat, which is taking place in
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: a big house, a killer wearing a kind of plastic mask,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: the pretty boy mask is going around and killing people
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: and wreaking havoc and stuff, and it kind of looks
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: like it's a slasher with some humor in it. I
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: wouldn't call it a horror comedy based on the trailer.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: I would say it's a horror movie that has some
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: humor in it, you know, maybe maybe something even a
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: little less campy than Thanksgiving was. But you know, in
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: that same general neighborhood, I didn't think it was particularly gripping,
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Like it didn't really na nag nab me man, I'm
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: having like the same sort of brain misfires. Yeah, I
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: didn't grab me. Also, I want to say I could
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: be wrong about this, and apologies if I am, But
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: to my recollection, I didn't recognize any of the actors involved,
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: which made me feel like this is one of those
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: very low budget horror movies. I think lions Gate is
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: behind it. I also think it's going straight to digital distribution.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: I don't think this is getting a theatrical release, so
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: you know, I think there's a I think there's a
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: space for movies like that. I don't want to like
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: dismiss this film out of hand, but it doesn't feel
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: particularly groundbreaking to me. It may be a really good
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: slasher movie, but it doesn't feel like it's bringing anything
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: particularly special to the table. Yeah.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I realized we've talked way way longer about these in
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: sixty seconds, but that's okay. I I I have nothing
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: against like movies that have no name actors, because eventually
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: many of many, some of those actors become named like
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: r Ignizable later on.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Right, you got to start somewhere.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: I appreciate people casting casting new talent.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you if you go on the Disney
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Cruise Line and you watch the old behind the scenes
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: videos of the Disney Cruise ships, you're going to see
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: an actor on there who would later grow up to
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: become Wednesday Adams. Oh really yeah? Oh okay, no, no,
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: well not the original Disney Cruise Line is not that old.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: It came started in nineteen ninety eight.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't know when the Disney Cruise Line started. No,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: it's a thing, okay, ninety eight or eighty eight, ninety eight, okay, anyhow.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I went in ninety nine, the year after they
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: had launched. Nice.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I have yet to go because it's a very expensive
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: cruise and I've got to do electrical in my house.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: So we Yeah, you've got priorities, yes, yes, right here
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: in River City. Well, let's let's talk about the stuff
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: that's actually on our lineup for realsies, because we still
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: have a whole bunch of stories to get there and
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: this is going to be another epic episode.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: So.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: The first is one that Jonathan mentioned, which is Hollywood
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: is afraid of losing all of its filming stuff and
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: specifically like post production and scoring.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Seems they've already been on decline for shooting days, so
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: like fewer projects are shooting in Hollywood already. That's been
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: a thing for a while, but now it's going beyond
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: just the actual shooting.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and like part of this is so they're basically
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: long story short there because I have so many feels
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: on this. They're they're putting in tax incentives and things
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: like that to encourage projects to stay in LA. Inherently,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: I don't have issues with that. I personally like that
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: there's so much stuff filming in Atlanta because that's where
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: I am, and especially in the new contract modified, I
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: believe that modified regional hire is no longer a thing,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: so I can't even say, hey, I live within five
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: hundred miles of this place to be considered a local hire,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: and a lot of product productions need local hires for
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: certain roles, so it is harder now for me to
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: get a role in LA if they're looking for local
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: hires because I don't have an address out there, and
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: I don't have somebody I can live with and claim
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: their address, it.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Doesn't count for me.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: So and I would have to in that case, I'd
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: have to also pay for my own flight, so it'd
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: have to be a good gig for me to even
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: do it. So like, I don't mind that stuff is
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: leaving la and coming to Atlanta. That being said, I
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: don't want their film industry to die. Also, there is
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: less stuff filming everywhere right now because streaming channels are
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: consolidating and going under and like that heyday of let's
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: make all the content ever is not here right now.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: And then a lot of stuff is being filmed out
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: of the country as well, for various reasons that I
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: won't get into, so a.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Lot mostly because it's cheaper.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of stuff is filming in UK and
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Australia and stuff like in Canada, Eastern Europe, Eastern Europe.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I actually just had a conversation with my agent.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, if you ever see anything from the UK,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: I'm willing. I'm willing to put that travel bill to
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: do UK work because I I personally would love to do.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Some BBC stuff.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: They hire a wide range of people and looks and
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: ages and body types, and that's always appealed to me.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: But as I'd be playing an American character, I know
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: I can't do a British accent that well, not without
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of coaching. So that's my thoughts. Jonathan, I'm
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: sorry I have rampled on.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, my thoughts are are largely the same.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, I would say that a lot of the
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: factors that have impacted the world at law charge have
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: also impacted Hollywood. So like you look at the pandemic
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: and how that forced everyone to go to a work
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: from home model for the most part. And when I
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: say everyone, I don't really mean everyone. Obviously there were
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of people who were still having to go
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: to a different location in order to do their jobs,
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: and I don't want to diminish that at all. But
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: what I do mean to say is that different businesses
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: had to adapt because they could not do business the
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: way they had been out of the necessity. And then
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: it turns out that once you are able to create
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: that process, you might say, well, why am I doing
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: business in this one part of the country where it
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: is particularly expensive to do that? When I could go
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: to a different part of the country or even a
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: different country altogether, and thus make my production dollars stretch
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: further because it's not as expensive. And I mean, that's
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: a large reason why Georgia became such a big filming hub,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: is that Georgia, the state of Georgia, put in tons
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: of it incentives to attract different productions to shoot here.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: And now other regions. I mean, George is not the
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: only one who has ever done this. Vancouver has been
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: doing it for years, but lots of other regions are
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: doing similar things, and not just in the United States,
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: and it's very hard for Hollywood to compete with that.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: California is a very expensive state to work in and
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: to live in, so it's not a surprise to me.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: I think the thing that's become alarming to the industry
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: in general is that certain things, like the post production stuff,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: almost always happened in Hollywood, right, like all the editing
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: and scoring, like the things you were mentioning Ariel, that
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: almost always happened out of Los Angeles, And now that
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: is no longer necessarily the case, and it's it's scary
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: to the people who live and work in California to see,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: because the fear is that it'll reach a point where
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: it'll be impossible to entice companies to produce back in California.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: And you've got all this institutional knowledge built up there,
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: people who have dedicated their lives to the industry, who
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: are experts in their field, and they can find themselves
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: out of work and either have to relocate or change
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: careers or something because they're just not going to get
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: enough working days to support themselves. And that's rough. Like
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: it also means that the productions that continue will not
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: be able to benefit from their years of experience and expertise.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: It doesn't necessarily mean that everything we watch is going
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: to suddenly diminish in quality. It just means that, like
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: maybe certain touches just don't happen because the people who
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: would have brought that to the project, you know, aren't
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: where they need to be in order to get that work.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: So it is interesting, it isn't.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: But also like there are amazing post production people in
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: Atlanta as well, you know, and like that's I think
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: it's it's hard because of course I'm very selfish. I
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: want these productions here so I have a chance to
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: be a part of them because I love doing this
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: too me. But if self leaves Atlanta, either I then
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: have to face relocating or no longer do it. Right
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: if being an Atlanta actor and auditioning for things in
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: la isn't something I can do because they have plenty
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: of talent there, So, like I get it. It is
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: a very like two sided, like both sides are the
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: same of the coin. Wherever you are, you're facing that
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: if somebody else pulls the productions away, you have less hope.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: So it's hard.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: I know that Atlanta is also fighting for post production
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: and scoring and things like that, because there's I mean,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: especially scoring. The musician talent pool in Atlanta is insane, right,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: like it's a music or has been for a long
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: time in music city. So on the one hand, I
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: love that stuff is spreading out so that more people
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: get an opportunity to be a part of this industry
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: that has been so like insular and clicky and things
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: like that. And on the other hand, I completely understand
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: people being worried about it. I kind of hope we
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: can come to a place where everybody can work together
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: and we can all travel for the jobs that want us,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: And I don't see it happening anytime soon, but wouldn't
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: that be the ideal?
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's rough. Like partly, I think this
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: is just the evolution of business in general, and Hollywood
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: for the longest time was insulated against it. Where you know,
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: it's sort of the move toward globalization or you're moving
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: away from localization or regionalization, and you can have a
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: more distributed approach toward the entire production and in some
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: ways that's healthy and in a lot of ways it's
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: giving people opportunities they never would have had otherwise. But
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: on the flip side, you have this institutional knowledge and
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: experience that can end up becoming you know, neglected or
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: set aside. So yeah, there are pros and cons for
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: all different approaches. And mainly we want to talk about
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: this because the people in California, they're not just freaking
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: out about this. They're trying to advocate for solutions that
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: will entice various movie related industries to continue to do
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: work out of California. Whether that works or not, we'll
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: have to see.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think it's important to talk about
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: because a lot of you know, almost the entire rest
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: of our lineup is and previous to this is about
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: TV shows and movies, and you know, Hollywood has been
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: the institution for a lot of that.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's complicated.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: It is are The arts are not something you do.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: The arts are definitely something you do and you stick
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: with because you're passionate about them.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Or you're really lucky and you make a whole
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: lot of money and then that becomes your thing. But
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: for every one person who gets really lucky, there are
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: thousands who are just toiling away because they love what
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: they do and if they're lucky, they can make a
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: living off of it. Yeah.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Some very lucky people who are probably
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: about to make a real good living are the actors
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: in the new Fantastic Four movies. Some of them are
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: already probably making a very good living.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Pedro Pascal is probably fairly comfortable at that.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: I hope he's doing well. I hope he's doing well.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got Yeah, he's he's in so much stuff.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: I think it.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: I think it's slowed down a little bit. Like I
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: want to say, like two years ago was peak Pascal
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: u although he may surpass that in the future.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: He better make like a hot sauce called peak Pascal.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Given that to you, Pedro, just give us a nod.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: So you haven't watched the the beginning of season two
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: of Last of Us yet, have you?
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: I haven't. I need to watch that, and I need
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: to watch the first couple of episodes of Doctor Who
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: because the cartoon one that you and I were both
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: interested in, either just came out or is coming out
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: this week.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: So is Pedro Pascal in that? No? But why are
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: you bringing it up?
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Because you you mentioned you mentioned a show that had
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: just started dropping episodes.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Right because Pedro Pascal is in it and we were talking.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, So you're like, hey, have you watched the new
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: episodes of the season. No, I haven't. I haven't watched
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: the new episodes of anything that I want to be
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: watching yet.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'm just giving Ariel a hard time.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: But yeah, because Pedro, I diss you out and I
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: have to be able to take it.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: He's in Fantastic four obviously. Yeah, we got a trailer
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: that actually gave us a look at the Silver Surfer
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: as well as Galactus's foot, and we got to see
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: more of the characters. We get to see an exchange
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: that reveals that Sioux Storm is Pregger's and that the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: Fantastic Four obviously have been an established group of heroes
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: in this version of their world, and that they are
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: known as like Earth's Defenders. As we've said before, this
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: version of the Fantastic Four is set in kind of
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: a nineteen fifties slash sixties era of Earth, like an
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: alternate version of Earth. And yeah, I thought the trailer
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: looked looked good. I'm still curious to see if Galactus
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: can come across as an interesting antagonist or if it's
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: just gonna be really hokey. Like hokey is sort of okay,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: because that's kind of the vibe they're doing. Yeah, well,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: it's the vibe of the comic book, especially like the original,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: Like it's that era of science fiction where people are
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: like coming up with really weird ideas and running with them,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: and so it's fitting in many ways. I don't know
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: how it'll play to a modern audience. I'm curious about that.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: I think I've said on past episodes that I'm not
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: the biggest fan of Fantastic Four, Like I appreciate them,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: but I don't have any real love in my heart.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: For those characters. This trailer still hasn't quite like caught
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: my attention to the point where I've changed my opinion,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: but I'm curious. I definitely will see this movie at
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: some point.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing I like about this trailer because I'm
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: also not a huge Fantastic four. I mean, I like
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Ben gram right, I do like him, but like, it's
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: not one of the stories that I've followed more closely.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: I will say that the trailer, especially this one, gives
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: it like a very like it feels like there's going
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: to be a lot of heart and a lot of
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: hope in it, even dealing with Galactus and all that.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: So if they keep that the tone, then I think
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: it'll be a really nice but like a in a
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: not I think it'll be a really nice juxtaposition to
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of the Marvel stuff we've gotten. I will say,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: and this is just the fault of the character and
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: not the fault of Marvel. Mister fantastic stretching still looks
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: real dumb.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's a superpower that's hard to do
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: in a way that doesn't look stupid, unless like, unless
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: the whole world is a cartoon. Allah, the Incredibles, right, So,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: but I am eager to see how this fits into
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: the overall MCU, even though I feel like that that
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: obsession of getting everything to fit together has in the
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: long run sort of hurt MCU. Like the longer it goes,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: the more It's just like the comic books. The longer
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: it goes, the messier it gets, until it reaches a
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: point where there kind of needs to be a reset,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: which makes me wonder if Avenger's Secret Wars will do that,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: if we're going to get essentially a universe reset at
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: the end of Secret Wars.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: I also wonder if the Fantastic Four is going to
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: have to abandon their universe and come to a different one.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: Well, they are Those actors have been announced for Avengers Doomsday,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: so we do know that there's some and Doctor Doom
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: himself is a classic Fantastic Four villain. Yeah.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'll be interested to see how they tie together.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: I do have probably a divisive opinion about this trailer,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: but not where you would think it would be. So Like,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: I have friends that are worried that a bunch of
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: people are going to uproar about Shalibal being the Silver Server.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: I don't have any problems with that. I like Julia Greer.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: I think she's a great I think that's the actress's name.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: I believe so, Juliet Gardner, sorry Garner.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: I think she's a fantas plastic actress. I think she
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: will do a great job. I you know, it's it fits.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: It's happened in the comics, so whatever any uproar, I
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: think that might have happened. I hope happened when they
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: announced her and I blissfully missed it. But looking at
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: her design, it's very pretty, but I don't know that
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: it I would expect the silver Surfer to look a
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: little bit better than the last time I saw the
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: silver Surfer in a movie, and I don't think that
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: it does. Like I'm looking at the last silver Surfer
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: in her side by side and something they've done with
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: her face. Maybe it's giving the darker around the eyes
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: in the mouth to make it look either to make definition,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: to get more definition, or to give it a little
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: bit of a feminine touch of like makeup. Almost probably definition,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: but it kind of does both. Makes it look more
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: cartoony than the older CGI.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a hard again, it's a hard character to
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: to do in a live action film, because you know,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: essentially you're talking about, hey, let's take a person who's
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: in good shape and cover them in chrome. Yeah. I don't.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: I get irritated by people who have the knee jerk
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: negative reaction of why are we getting a female Silver
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: Surfer because I think nine of those this is my guess,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: is my opinion, but ninety nine percent of the people
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: who object to that probably have never even bothered to
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: read a Silver Surfer comic anyway. I'm like, what's your
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: stake in this, dude, Like, why are you mad? Like
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: if you if you're not like a hardcore Silver Surfer fan,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: then why does it matter if they're going with the
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: female version versus the male one, Because there have been
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: both in the comics, although inarguably the male Silver Surfer
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: is the better known of the two, but still they
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: have been both, so that's still comics accurate. It's just
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: I do get irritated by that because I suspect a
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: lot of the people who object don't have any real
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: like love for the Silver Surfer in the first place.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: They just hate seeing something go to a woman.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's what a lot of my friends have
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: been worried about that. Being said, I haven't seen a lot.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: Of uproar about it. That's like I think when that
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: was first announced, I saw some like like YouTube would
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: occasionally suggest to me reaction videos or you know, pop
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: culture commentary kind of videos. And there's a wide spectrum
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: of creators out there who do those kind of things.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: But there are a ton of very judgmental, very hyperbolic, reactive,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: white male creators who who seem to just go out
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: of their way to express outrage over anything that isn't
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: catering directly to them.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: I guess in the past I have seen that has
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: been so much more pervasive in like in like the
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: news to me like this one has totally like this
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: outrage has totally missed me, which makes me hope that
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: it is a smaller subset of people.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: It may be it may just be a YouTube's algorithm
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: that is trying to make me lose my mind, and
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: unfortunately I haven't I haven't figured out a way to
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: tell YouTube, hey, stop recommending this to me. I guessterday,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: I got a recommendation not this doesn't have to do
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: with pop culture, but I got a recommendation of a
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: video that was ultra conservative, and I thought, you know what,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: if you have ultraconservative beliefs or whatever, that's your right.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: That is not how I see the world. So why
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: are you serving this to me? Do you not.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: Click, not interested, or don't recommend this channel when those
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: pop up?
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: I do for the videos, but you can't like like
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: there's It'll still get those sort of things will still
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: get recommended to me. It may not be that particular channel,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: but similar ones will still get recommended to me because
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: of my habit of watching a lot of pop culture content.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: So I think that YouTube is looking at it. It
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: makes me think. Patton oswaldt used to have this routine
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: about TiVo about how TVO would think you liked certain
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: kinds of things because you watch something that had an
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: aspect of that in it. So he talked about how
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: he would he stayed up late and used TVO to
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: record a bunch of old Westerns, so you watch Westerns.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: But then TVO got it into its head that I
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: like horses because horses are in Westerns. So suddenly Divo
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: recorded a ton of stuff that had horses in it
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: that I don't have any interest in. And the routine
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: is very funny. But that's how kind of how I feel.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: How YouTube is, gotcha, I uh yeah.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: I spend a lot of time curating my feed. If
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: something stuff I don't like, I very much am like,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: don't don't give me this channel, don't give me this video,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: but like it doesn't You're right, it doesn't always work,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: especially for me on Instagram. My Instagram reels because I'm
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: on there because it's a marketing tool are always horrible.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: My for you page is the algorithm is so off,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: and no matter how many videos I click, I don't
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: like this.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: I don't like this.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Please don't show this to me again. It makes me uncomfortable.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: I don't like it.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: It doesn't fix And then I will completely reset the
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: algorithm and just watch a bunch of videos I like,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: and it still sends me a bunch of crap. It
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: like hates me.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: That's fine.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: I don't watching the reels they send me. I do
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: that on TikTok because the TikTok algorithm gets me. I know,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: I know, I don't care.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I'm not any of that because I just
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: got fed up with all the companies behind it. But
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: I understand entirely what you're saying. I don't judge you
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: for being on any of them. I just for my
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: own mental health and need to feel like I'm not
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: contributing to companies that I have fundamental issues with. It
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: was to the point where I was like, I just
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: I got a jump. I gotta pull the eject button. Yeah,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: not the eject button, the eject cord. Speaking of chords,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: that has nothing to do with our next story. We
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: got a little kind of a behind the scenes feature
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: on the new Jurassic Park film, and I say kind
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: of because no useful information was given at all in
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: this feature that Ariel put on our lineup. It was
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: all things like it's incredible, It's incredible, It's the most
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: incredible thing you've ever seen. Like this is the same
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: thing you get behind every behind the scenes of every dr.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: That's not what they're saying. What they're saying specifically, and
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: this is why I added it. I mean, they are
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: saying it's incredible, but they're also saying, hey, all you
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: people who wrote off Jurassic Park because the subsequent movies
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: after the first did not appeal and you thought they
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: were lower. Part this goes back to the thing you
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: loved in the original. This is going to be like
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: the original. Please please give us another chance, pretty please,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: with a cherry on top, which I find amusing because
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: they have done so many movies after the first and
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: so many movies after Jurassic World, the Jurassic World reboot
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: that I'm just like, I am curious if they can
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: achieve what they are trying to promote.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it, Like it was giving me sort
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: of flashbacks to the behind the scenes stuff for I
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: think it was the second of the Jurassic World movies
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: where like the go to phrase was there are more
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: dinosaurs than have ever been in a movie before, that
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: kind of thing. And I was watching this and I
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: was just like, oh my gosh, I hate this behind
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: the scenes kind of stuff because we're not really getting
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: a look behind the scenes. It's just a promotion for
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: the film. It's not serving two roles where it's promoting
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: the film and also giving you a look behind this scene.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: It's really just promoting the film without being a totally
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: new trailer that's been recut. That being said, like, I
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: wish no ill will toward the movie and if it
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: does kind of harken back to the vibes of the
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: first film. That's great. I've only ever I think I've
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: only ever watched the first movie and most of the
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: second one. I don't think I've seen any of the
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: other Jurassic Park or Jurassic World movies. It's largely because
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: I got the feeling early on that everything I needed
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: out of that world I got in the first film,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: and like the stuff that was that followed just didn't
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: feel as appealing to me.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: I ended up watching. So the ones I can remember
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: are Jurassic Park, the original and Jurassic World. I saw
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: both of those in the theater, and I've seen Jurassic
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: Park multiple times. It still frightens the snickers out of me.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: But the other movies I have ended up watching on
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: like TV when they come in. I don't think I've
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: watched Dominion, but I've seen like the second or third
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: Jurassic World movie, or maybe both. I don't I don't
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: remember because they all they all run together. But I
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: will say, like I enjoyed Jurassic World. Did it grasp
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: did it grasp the feel of the original? No, because
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: that was kind of a first right.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a joy of discovery that you cannot replicate.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I mean honestly, like practical, the practical
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: effects dinosaurs. I mean, it was mixed with CGI even
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: back then in the original Jurassic Park. Outweigh any CGI dinosaur.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: I have ever seen to that. To that end, even
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: the CGI dinosaurs of the original Jurassic Park still look
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: pretty darn hood.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Really hold up. Yeah, Like, like we were talking about
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: the BBC walking with the Dinosaurs the other day, I'm like,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: when you can have such what Jurassic Park came out
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: in the nineties, Yeah, when you can have such good
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: visuals back then, why.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: Is it not so much better now? Yeah? Yeah, No,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: I feel you because it's like it's wild to think
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: about how much time has passed, how much work has
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: been done in computer science in general, and yet it's
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: hard to name a movie that uses CGI as effectively
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: as Jurassic Park did. I think largely because they did
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: mix it in with amazing practical effects, and you had,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: you know, you had a genius in Steven Spielberg directing it.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: He had the best cinematographers, like it was. It was
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: a perfect collection of talent to create that first Jurassic
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: Park movie, and most of the projects that have followed.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: I don't think anyone has put in as much thought
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: and effort into the approach, And especially in the business
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: side of Hollywood, where you're worried about budgets, which makes sense,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: but you're also worried about timetables, and so there's a
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: lot of crunch time, which means you also have to
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: take big, you know, considerations when it comes to how
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: much work you can put in because you don't have
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: the time or money to put in as much as
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: you would like. I think all of those things are
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: more evident, and so you look at a movie like
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: Jurassic Park and you're like, man, it's crazy because I
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: know what is achievable from the technology of those days.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: It's so sad we're not seeing stuff that blows us
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: away to the level it should considering the sophistication we
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: have at our disposal today.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: And it's not even always about budget. Like if you
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: look at beating I don't like this phrase, but I
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: don't have a better one. I'm beating a dead horse.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: Because I've talked about this so many times before. When
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: you look at District nine, that movie was made with
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: a small crew, a small budget, and the CGI in
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: that was exceptional, so it's not even fully about budget. Yeah,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: but I agree it's.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: There.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: There was so much new and so much cool and
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: so much care put into the original that it's just
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: hard to match that on like because it's trying to
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: rehash the same success. That being said, if the new
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: Jurassic Park can find a way to rekindle that spark
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: and give me something new while giving me the nostalgia like,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: that would be fantastic.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, I hope the movie succeeds in every sense
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: of the word. I hope it succeeds on its vision,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: its execution, and you know, financially, and that succeeds among
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: the fandom. I hope for all of those things. I
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: am clearly not the right audience to target, simply because
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: I very much loved the first movie and have had
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: next to no interest in any of the films that followed.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: So again, for me, Jurassic Park felt like a one
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: and done kind of thing. I do you need to
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: improve a palm perfection? Yeah, just or like the like
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: the story I wanted to hear was told, and I haven't.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: None of the other trailers or anything else I've seen
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: have convinced me, Oh, here's another story set in that
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: same world. I want to hear this story, Like, none
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: of those have done that for me, and so you know,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: maybe this one ultimately will. But at the moment, I'm
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: just I remain unconvinced. That's again, not a commentary on
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: the hard work that has clearly gone into making this movie.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: So so along the lines of I've heard this story,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: I don't need it, ysh. Is that why you're rolling
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: your eyes at Juliette Romeo?
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, this trailer. Oh I wanted to scream
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: when I watched it. So yeah, we got a trailer
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: for a musical retelling of Romeo and Juliet this one
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: called Juliet and Romeo. See how edgy that is. Look,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: I don't have an objection to giving Juliette more agency,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: Like I think that's awesome. I think that's great. But
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: I watched this trailer and I'm like, oh, it is
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: the CW version of Romeo and Juliet. The music I
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: think is awful.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: So I have a question for you, and this is
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: gonna jump us, Like, I have a couple questions for you.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: One I agree on the music. Did you like a
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: Night's Tale.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: You know what, I have never watched a Night's Tale.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: I My reaction to seeing the trailer in the theater
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: was again rolling my eyes because like I have no
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: objec action to people having fun. And clearly a Night's
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: Tale is a good time and it's got like some
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: great actors in it. Uh, but it was it was
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: going for a vibe that doesn't appeal to me.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: So I will say the same thing I have learned
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: in appreciation for Night's Tale, But like trying to tell
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: a modern teeny bopper version of I like medieval fantasy
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: so much that making it modern loses the charm for me.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: Right now, I've seen modern versions of Shakespeare that I
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: absolutely love. I've been in modern versions of Shakespeare that
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: I absolutely love, but it's it takes. It takes some
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: fine tuning to be able to get the new setting
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: in the new time period and the old content to
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: work well together.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: Now, to be clear, this isn't a version of Romeo
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: and Juliet that's said in modern day, No, but it.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: It feels, it feels like everybody's sensibilities, everybody's mannerisms are modern.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: Again Night's Tale, or maybe Ella enchanted Ellen Enchanted isn't
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: as bad. I like it Ella Enchanted, but Ella Enchanted
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: was flat out a comedy, and also I think benefited.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: I know you and I are not huge fans of
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: jukebox musicals, yeah, but I think Ella Enchanted benefited from
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: having recognizable music.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: To fit in there.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: I think I haven't seen and Juliet because again, not
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: a huge fan of jukebox musicals, right, but I feel
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: like this is just trying to play off of and Juliet,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: which is a musical where they give Juliette more agency
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: without the catchy catchiness of songs.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: And it's not It's not Yeah, they're not using recognizable songs.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: They're using original songs that are written in that pop
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: like power pop kind of modern power pop.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: Style, which is fine. I'm not like, please give me
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: new music that I love, but I want to walk
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: out of a musical trailer not being able to get
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: a song.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: Out of my head. It made me feel like it
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: was trying to follow in the footsteps of something like
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: The Greatest Showman. That was the kind of vibe I
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: was getting from the music side of it.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: Except for Greatest Showman music is more catchy than this.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: I do not. There's only one the well two one
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: and a half. There's one and a half songs in
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: The Great Showmen I actually think are good songs.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: I agree, but those are the songs they used in
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: the trailer. Yeah, so but yeah, this and like so
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: you've got something later and I'm going to jump down
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: to it now. Disney gives us the first listen to
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: Villain's Land expansion.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: With a new song.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: Disney not always, but like seventy five percent of the
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: time lands with their orchestration. Yeah, there's something that they
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: do that when they combine like rock and pop and
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: this and that, that it just evokes every feel you
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: want to feel in this song and it catches and
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: it wiggles into your brain. This didn't do it. And
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. If you're I am super for make
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: a new musical, Give me a musical of a story
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: that I like. Rome and Juliet is not my favorite
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: Shakespeare by far.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: And also we already have a musical It's West Side Story.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and other things. And also bas Lerrman's Romean. It's
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: just been Romeo and Juliet is not the best Shakespeare
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: story and it has been told so many times, including
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: giving Juliette agency.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: I suspect that this is a version that's not going
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: to have the unhappy ending. I think they're going to
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: have a happy ending to this because that's the vibe
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: I'm getting from the trailer.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: I think angeliet does too. It really feels like they're
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: trying to bank off of Angeliette's success. Again, that's fine
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: if it's your thing. I just feel like, if you're
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: going to write a musical and you're gonna put that
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: music into the trailer, you need to really make sure
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: that it hits.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like this Syrraho musical had the same issue.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: I was just going to say the exact same thing,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: you beat me to it. I was gonna make the
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: same point. There was one song in Sirao, the one
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: that has Peter Dnkliche playing the lead character. There was
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: one song in that that I thought was great, and
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: the rest of it I had to scrub through because
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: it was.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: I found it so distracting, which is a shame because
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: I like this story of Sierra No de Bergerac and
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: I was excited for Peter Dnklige. But I can't sit
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: through that much music and I'm just.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: This.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: This is the kind of thing that makes me understand
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: when people have too short of an attention span to
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: watch a movie, because if the music just sucks and
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: you have to sit through like forty five minutes of
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: Hoham music.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and again this gets back to that question you
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: asked me about The Night's Tale, because for me, if
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: you're going to set something in a particular era, it
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: doesn't need to have period accurate musical arrangements or whatever,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: but something approximating that is more appealing to me than
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: putting a modern soundtrack to that moment. Like whether it's
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: pairing known music or it's all original music, if it's
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: done in a style it's modern, it just takes me out.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: I don't like it. It bothers me. So like with Syraho,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: there were like these big dance numbers and kind of
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: these rock ballads or whatever, and I'm just like, this
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: just feels wrong. I don't like this. It's same thing
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: for me, by the way, I had the exact same
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: reaction that it's not just for movies and TV. I
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: had the exact same reaction for Something Rotten. I had
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: the same reaction because with something Rotten, I wanted it
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: to have kind of a renaissance sort of sound to it,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: and it totally does not. Now that being said, there
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: are some numbers in Something Rotten that I truly loved,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: but I had to get passed my initial reaction of
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: why didn't they do orchestration that makes it sound more renaissance.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: Did you feel the same way about Spamalot?
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: No, because spamlat is such a ridiculous, like money python
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: comedy thing it was, and Spamalot I felt was, I mean,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: Something Rotten does the same thing, and that spam Alot
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: is all about making fun of the musical format. Something
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: Rotten does that even more overtly, like that is the
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: plot of Something Rotten. But Spamalot was clearly you know
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: with the song this is the song that goes like
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: this was making fun of the structure of musicals that
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: I was okay with that.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: So I have a question, and I think I know
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: the answer. You have not watched any Bridgerton, right, I
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: have not. I I would be curious to see how
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: you felt about that, because they're for me, it wasn't
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: the orchestration because they do a bunch of chamber music
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: modern songs in a chamber music style. It's somewhere in
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: between modern chamber music, but there's like it's strings in orchestra.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: You know, So it's it's the postmodern juke box approach.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of for me, Like and I thought past it.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: So I've caught up on Bridgerton and I got past
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: my hang ups there. But I had I had that
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: feel about the acting similar to this, This to Night's
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: Tale in Romeo and Juliet where the acting was just
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: also modern. In this, with these antiquated stories and stylings,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: it didn't feel like the actors were in the world
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: that they were living in.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: Gotcha. Well yeah, And so the Juliette and Romeo trailer.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: The other thing we should mention is that they're not
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: speaking Shakespeare's lines like they might be following the general
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: storyline of Romeo and Juliet. And I say might be,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: because this trailer does not make it clear. But but
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: they are. The language they're speaking is it's they're not
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: quoting Shakespeare at best. This is a interpretation of an
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: interpretation of Shakespeare. The lines they give are are very
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: modern in their sound and in their delivery. It's not
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: It's not just that they're delivering them in a modern way.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: The lines have been rewritten to be modern language. Yeah.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: And the other the other interesting thing, and again not
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: necessarily bad, is a give Lady capul It a lot
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: more agency in this one as well, being played by
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: Rebel Wilson. And it was very hard for me to
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: remember that this was a Romeo and Juliette story and
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: not a Cinderella story at first.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and you know, I don't have as many
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: objections if you do a full update to the story
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: like West Side Story. I actually kind of enjoy West
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: Side Story. I don't think it's a perfect I don't
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: like the music. Oh I like the music, but I'm
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: older than you. But yeah, I like Tonight Tonight. I
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: like Officer krub Key, you know. I like when You're
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: a jet, You're a jet all the way.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: I like all that, Like Maria.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: I don't like America. Oh I love America. That's a
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: great song. But I respect the fact that you don't
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: care for it. That's fine. But like, I can deal
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: with Westside Story a lot more because the whole it's
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: the it's the basic story of Romeo and Juliet transported
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: to a different time. A different place and with different
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: characters in their their relationships are are not. It's not
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: two families at war. It's more of a race issue.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: But I can appreciate all of that. This, however, I
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: I just had a visceral negative reaction to.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think I feel like they're missing the mark.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong, but I feel like they're missing
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: the mark. Someone you hope doesn't miss the mark, because Lord,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: we're going along. Someone you hope doesn't miss the mark.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: Are the Eleven Rebels in the Eleven Rebels Samurai movie? Yeah?
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: So this is a Japanese language samurai movie. We saw
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: a trailer that had, you know, captions had subtitles for
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: the thing, which I think is great because it meant
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: that you got to hear the original actors and their
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: delivery of their lines. That was fantastic. Yes, basic plot
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: is you've got a small group of rebels who are
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: resisting the Emperor of Japan's military moves into a region,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: and I just the reason why I put it in
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: here is that it looks like a little bit or
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: a little bit of maybe seven Samurai, but no, it's
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: it made me think like, oh, this is this is
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: hearkening back to an era of Japanese cinema where the
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: samurai movie was like the thing. And it's interesting to
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: see a modern take on that because it's very clearly
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: an homage and inspired by those earlier samurai movies while
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: also being a modern representation of it.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: I mean they even say that that they're they're bringing
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: back the joy of that that originally Like in the trailer,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: I think they say that.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: We're bringing back the joy of samurai movies.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: Samurai movies, and I do want to just address right
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: here because Darthan and I talked about this before the episode.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: I realized we put Tornado last week in the doesn't
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: fit in this category, and we put this one this
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: week in that does fit in this category, and it's
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: it was an oversight on my part that I put
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: it in that does not fit, because it totally fits,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: and it was it was no slight to a samurai
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: movie where the lead character is a female, or a
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: samurai movie in general, so.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: I I I take responsibility for that as well. It
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: takes two to tango, and we're tangoing on this on
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: the show whether you could see it or not, folks,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: But uh yeah, no, I feel I feel the same
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: way I feel.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: Filos are so sore.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, I'm really clumsy. But Tornado I think could have, yeah,
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: should have fit right in the thick of things, because again,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: it's another sort of a martial arts samurai kind of story.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: I feel as fully within the geeksphere. I thought that
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: eleven Rebels it looks like it looks intense, like it
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: looks fun, but fun in that intense kind of way.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: Like it's not like a you know, sit back and
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: eat popcorn and turn your brain off kind of action movie.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: I don't think it goes that far. But if you
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: like those classic samurai movies, particularly the ones that have
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: you know, geysers of blood in it, then this is
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: probably going to appeal to you.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: Speaking of geysers of blood, yeah, we got both. We
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: got a couple of different teasers for twenty eight years Later,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: which we've we've talked about twenty eight years Later before
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: on this podcast, so we won't spend too much time
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: on this. I actually took one of them out of
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: our lineup just because I was like, oh, well, we've
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: you know, we've got two different ones. I'll just take
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: this one out. It occurs to me later like maybe
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: I should have kept them both in because one of
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: them had more like discernible segments of the film and
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: the other one is much more of a atmospheric mood.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, present the one you took out was a little
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: teaser before the new trailer, and it was terrifying.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: It it's scared, and it shows you barely any flashes
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: of anything. It's mainly just red skulls going into like
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: a hazmat symbol.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: But that's the one I kept.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: Is that the one you kept?
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, that one truly terrifying. Like I walked away being
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: like I need to sit in a bright room with
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: some hot coco.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the red skulls are slowly rolling into place
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: and taking that biohazard symbol. And then also it reincorporates
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: some of Ridyard Kipling's poem Boots, which we talked about
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: in the first teaser. Had an incredible impact. That recitation
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: of the poem, which comes from like I think the
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: nineteen twenties something like that. I forget, maybe it might
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: be a little bit later than that, but it was
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: a English actor who did the recitation, and so it's
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: an old recording, and that particular actor's recitation is so
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: emotive and terrifying and frenzied it's a perfect fit for
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: the promotional material for this movie.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: The other trailer showed a lot more plot, which, honestly,
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: going into a movie like this, maybe you don't want.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: But I watched that one.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: I'm only mentioned this real quick when we can move on.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: I watched that one much faster because the first one
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: was so terrifying to me. But when you put it
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: up to two time speed, because maybe you'll want to
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: do this, the scoring in that Boots recitation turns into
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: like a really cool, like techno beat kind of a song,
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: it makes it a little bit more time.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, we all know that the Boots is half
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: of a techno beat in Cats and Cats and Ands
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: and Okay, so moving on. We got a longer trailer
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: for a movie we've mentioned in a previous episode Ash.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: This is a science fiction film. Aaron Paul is in it.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: It features a woman who wakes up and she has amnesia.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: She does not remember her past. She gets little flashes
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: of memory at moments that that hint at a truly
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: terrifying and violent recent past. She was part of a
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: crew on a planet, and the rest of her crew
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: appears to have been eliminated by something what is it?
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: Who's to say? And then she encounters very well, she's
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: the one who's alive, so that's a pretty good indication.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: But she encounters Aaron Paul's character, who claims that she's
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: sent out a distress signal and he's responding to it.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: She doesn't know if she can trust him or not.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: Ariel pointed out the last time we talked about this,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: I mentioned that it was essentially Doom the movie with
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: a little bit of like dead Cells added inn. Yeah,
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: it's that I felt like.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: This trailer honestly, So I have this problem where they're like,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: here's a teaser, here's the full trailer, and it's like
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: the teaser with a few extra things. That's how this
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: felt to me.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: I didn't go back and watch the original.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: There is more in it. I will say it made
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: it look a lot scarier the teaser. I was like,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: I could probably watch this this one in my I
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: probably can't watch this.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: So it does look like it's a pretty effective, like
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: science fiction horror film, Like I'm curious, this is not
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: one that's that's landed on a must watch list for me,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: but it's one where if I'm in the right mood
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: and it's on a service that I subscribed to, I
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: could see myself seeing it. I don't anticipate making a
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: trip to the movie theater to watch it. That's not
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: a commentary again on the quality of the filmmaking. As
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: I can see it in the trailer, it looks like
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: it's well made. Part of it is that I don't
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: know who I could convince to come see this movie
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: with me.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I probably would have to watch it in at home,
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: unlike I do like and it's not every horror movie.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: I plan on going to see Sinners in the theater
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: because it is ninety seven percent fresh, both critically and fan.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's incredible.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some people, it's.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: Almost unheard of.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: Some people have said that, Like, there are a few
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: negative reviews that are like, it's a good monster movie
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: that fails, like fails to have anything poignant, but that's
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: far and few between.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: Like our mutual friend absolutely loved it. I'm guessing Crispy, Yeah,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: like rave review about it. Chris Crispy lives in a
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: movie theater, y'all. He does they do.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: He does anyhow. I but yeah, this this one I
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: will have to watch ash, I will have to watch
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: at home.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: We got a new trailer for season two of poker Face. Well,
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: you already got an earlier trailer, so this is kind
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: of more of the same. Gives us a few more
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: moments with Charlie where you get to see Natasha Leon's
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: charm on full display, and a little bit more of
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: a glimpse at some of the notable cameos and guest
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: appearances that are going to be in season two. Yeah,
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: it looks looks like it's going to be another fun season. Yeah.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: The cheesser made it feel like the big thing they
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: had going for it was the celebrity and there's still
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of push on that. I didn't watch it
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: first season because I don't have peacock.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: I would love to.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: Turns out, I really like Natasha Leon's series. She's just
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: got such a great presence, She's such a good actor.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: But this new trailer really showed the charm. I was like,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize her character was this charming. I want
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: to I have to figure out what streaming network I'm
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: going to drop so I can pick up Peacock to
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: watch it.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you would enjoy the first season of
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: Poker Face. My big question for season two is what
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: I'm still uncertain about. So in season one, there is
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: kind of an overarching narrative for season one that doesn't
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: it's not heavy. It's not a heavy presence. It sometimes
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: plays a part in an episode, but it's not It
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: doesn't feel like it's the force pushing the series forward.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: But there is a kind of conclusion at the end
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: of season one, not a firm end end conclusion, like
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: there's stuff open for continuation. But it makes me wonder
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: how much is that going to be an element in
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: season two, because just based on the trailers, I didn't
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: get a feel for any of that, which I can
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: to understand if you're trying to just attract brand new
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: viewers to the series, but if you're trying to tell
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: people who are fans of the first season, hey, you
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: want to come back and watch season two. It's just
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: kind of surprising to me that there weren't any moments
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: that appeared to be an overt reference to a continuation
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: of that narrative.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can I can see that. As much as
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: you're talking securitously around it so that you.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: Don't ruin it. Well, yeah, because I want you to
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: be able to enjoy the show the first time you
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: watch it without having any idea of where it's going.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, something we know where it's going. Well kind of
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: kind of is sam Man season two. So I had
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: a bunch of friends the trailer just dropped, the trailer announcement.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: That it's it's in.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: The big takeaway is that it's going to be released
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: in two volumes that are like two weeks apart. So
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: my guess is this is really.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: Backup.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: This show has been canceled because of all of the
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: Neil game and stuf going on. Reasonable, I had a
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: bunch of friends going, Oh, I thought it was already canceled.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: It was canceled for after season two, which I think
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: was already in production when all this stuff started happening.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: So they're doing it, and I think, because this is
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: my own like conspiracy theory, Netflix has nothing to lose
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: at this point on this show because we know this
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: season is gonna be the last season. So I think
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: this whole like we're dropping half the episodes and then
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: the other half two weeks later. Is trying to figure
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: out a balance between the dropping everything at once so
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: that people can binge it in a day, and dropping
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: things weekly so that they keep your service longer. Because
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: I was like, why why have two volumes and release
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: them back to back?
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: And I think that's why it's hard to say. I
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: will say that, you know, the feeling I got after
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: watching this trailer was Netflix saying screw it, we already
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: paid for this, so we're releasing it. Like that's how
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: That's the feeling I got. But I will also say that,
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: like the at the beginning, you have the various members
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: of the Endless, the Dreams siblings, like these are all
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: like immortal beings that represent some sort of fundamental aspect
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: of the universe, you know, Dream, Destiny, Death, Delirious.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: Despair, Delarium is the new one.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: Right, Delirium is the one that hasn't been introduced yet,
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: I think, okay, and then Death as well. And seeing
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: them all around sitting on the table, I was like, well,
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: that's kind of cool. I read a lot of the
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: early Sandman comics because my roommate in college had the collections,
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: but it has literally been that long since I've read them,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: and I have few memories about the particulars, Like the
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: one thing I remembered was the diner issue. Yeah, I
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: knew before I watched that episode. I was like, this
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: is going to be hard to watch because I remember
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: this comic book because it.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: Was so I.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: I hated it so much. But yeah, I'm somewhat curious
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: about it, like I feel conflicted for the same reason
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: I feel conflicted about any of the Harry Potter stuff.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: It's just that I don't feel good about supporting the
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: art of someone who I feel is has made some
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: really horrible choices that have impacted people in a negative way, and.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: More specifically, someone who makes those choices and then doesn't
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: own up to them and change.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, deflecting and then like gradually maybe halfheartedly owning
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: up to stuff, but still kind of deflecting, like it's
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: not good. Yeah. So I don't know if i'll watch
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: this or not. I don't know if i'll I never
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: finished the first season of sand Man, so I don't
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: know that I'll even go back and watch the rest
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: of the episodes that I haven't seen yet. But we
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: did get it.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, we also got this song that I talked about,
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: the villain's song.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's this is This is going to be part
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: of a stage show that will be part of the
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: new Villains.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: Land age show I almost auditioned for, but then realized
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: I wasn't enough money for me to relocate to.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: Relocate to Orlando, Florida or cassim Yeah. So Magic Kingdom
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: is opening up a Villain's land in the not two
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: distant futures. It's part of the Beyond Thunder Mountain project.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: We've heard about it for ages. And one of the
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: aspects of that land is going to be a new
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: stage show. And that stage show is going to feature
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: three villains, Cruela Deville, Captain Hook, and Maleficent, and they're
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: kind of competing with each other. It's sort of a
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: SOB story competition where they're arguing over which of them
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: has had the most unfair treatment and then Uh, it's
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: similar to a show that I've seen on the Disney
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: Cruise Line. There are couple of different villains centric shows
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: that they have done on the Disney Cruise Line that
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: kind of make me think that that was maybe inspiration
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: slash sort of a seed for this new show. Nothing
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: that was one the same thing, but for example, there's
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: there's one villain show that's centered around Hades from Hercules,
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: who has to raise his villain meter, which is like
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: a thermometer in a fundraiser, has to raise his villain
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: meter to a certain point or else he's going to
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: get kicked out of the Villain's Club that has all
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: the other Disney villains in it, So similar kind of
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: to that right where I was just like, Oh, I
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: kind of get the vibe with this because I've seen
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: shows that are in a in the same neighborhood, and
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: I think it's a good addition. I've already seen some
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: Disney adults be total, in my opinion, total idiots, arguing, oh,
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: I want the Villain's Land to be scary and edgy,
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, have you seen Disney movies? Like I
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: get that you love the Disney villains, but they are
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: inherently silly in almost every case, Like there's Mollficent. Arguably
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: no Mollificent is not silly, but like right, Captain Hook
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: is silly, Kruella de Ville is at least on a
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: level absurd, Like most Disney villains have silliness aspects to them,
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: So to make them all like if you want more
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: edgy villain material. Watch Once upon a Time Again or
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: once whatever that show was, Go and watch that as
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: many times as you want, you know. But yeah, Disney
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: Magic Kingdom is a place where families go to have
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: family time and family vacation adventures. Make it a thing
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: that the family can enjoy.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: That's why they took out that Alien Encounter ride, which.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: Was my favorite ride, which you you know, we have
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: very strong differing opinions about that ride.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I loved it, and I loved it when it
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: was Stitch too. But it was scary, and I would
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: do it because it was a Disney so I could
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: endure this scary. But yes, it doesn't fit the vibe
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: of future Land.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow Land.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: Sorry, yeah, I appreciate that it gives the feel of like,
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: these villains you're gonna be like, oh, it's I'm so misunderstood,
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: just because I boiled a hundred puppies, which is horrible.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: But yes, I hope they don't make them like, don't
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: make villains sympathetic.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think they will. I think it's going to like,
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a comedic approach that
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: is just going to be like ultimately they're all going
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  Speaker 2: to kind of get their come uppance in some way
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: or another. That's a guess, just based upon the other
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  Speaker 2: entertainment I've seen and based around this kind of idea.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing that's really weird to me, I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: Hook is in. I think Hook is a very fun villain.
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  Speaker 1: I it feels a little unfair to have two face
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  Speaker 1: characters in a musical show and then one poor sap
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  Speaker 1: in a big old costume head.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It makes me wonder if they will make Hook
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  Speaker 2: a face character when ultimately this is a stage show,
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  Speaker 2: like the promotional material was not promotional material was the
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  Speaker 2: I mean you only see him in silhouette, really, I
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  Speaker 2: mean maybe you see him lit up at one point.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: I don't remember that, but you.
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  Speaker 1: You only see him in silhouette. But it definitely looks
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  Speaker 1: like he's wearing a big old head. Yeah.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he is wearing the Hook costume that has
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  Speaker 2: the big foam hook head. But maybe the actual stage
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  Speaker 2: show will have a face character version of Hook, because yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you. To have like that other version
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  Speaker 2: of Hook come out with the unarticulated mouth staying you know,
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: frozen while the lines play out overhead would be weird.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't remember from the casting. I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember anyhow. That's that. And lastly, we have a game
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  Speaker 1: trailer because I try to put game stuff in here.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: There just hasn't been a whole lot of game stuff,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: but we used to talk about it all the time,
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: games and comics and stuff. For Kronos the New Dawn,
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: which is kind of a horror sci fi kind of
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  Speaker 1: video game. It looks fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's from a Polish game developer studio. I had
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: to look it up because at first I was like,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: is this from the same studio that did Control, because
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: there's some like elements of control in there.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: It is not oh darn, because Control is quite the game. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, this is one of those games where as I
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  Speaker 2: was watching the trailer, I was thinking, Oh, this looks
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: like Control, and then the second later, Oh, this looks
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: like Dead Cells, and then the second later, oh this
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: looks like Doom or a quake, or like or As
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  Speaker 2: an Evil or Silent Hill.
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  Speaker 1: Like.
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  Speaker 2: There's a ton of stuff. You can see all of
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: the influences that went into making this game. I don't
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: think that there's anything original in this game. It feels
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: more like it feels more like a big old cauldron
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: of stuff that was mixed together from other games that
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: you are familiar with.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, sci fi horror video games can
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  Speaker 1: be fun.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, it's go ahead and watch the
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: trailer see if this is something that would appeal to you.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: I just thought it was funny that I was like,
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: it's it almost feels like a Bingo card, like you
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 2: could cross off when you see something that reminds you
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: of this game, and you would have get bingo within
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: the first like fifteen seconds of the trailer.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm going to be fully transparent here. I have
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: not actually played Control.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: We forced one of my friends to play it when
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: they were in town, and I sat through as much
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: of that as I could before I got motion sick.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: But it was really interesting. There's someone who talks in initiat,
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: which I love because I'm learning.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: Finish well, and it's a character. It's a character who
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: also shows up an Alan Wake two. Oh interesting, the
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: same character.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: Oh fun. But also like, I'm currently playing a tabletop game,
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: the Triangle Agency, which is somewhere between Control and The
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: Laundry Files, so that appeals as well. Maybe that's why
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: this game trailer just kind of struck me.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: But yeah, there were there were moments where like there
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: was stuff just floating in mid air, and that's where
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, is this like related to control
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: because it was immediately made me think of that Control Is.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: I own that game and I played through most of it.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: That's another game I never got a chance to finish.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: But Control Is is fun because of not just the
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: gameplay elements, which are genuinely a lot of fun to
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: experiment with. Like at some point you can fly in
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: that game, at least for a little while, Like you
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: have a lim to how much power you're able to exert,
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: and then you have to rest in order to build
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: it back up. But you can fly for short blasts,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: and you can use telekinesis and all this other kind
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: of stuff, and it's it's a blast. And then like
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: there's all this lore that gets dumped on you. Some
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: of it gets dumped on you pretty early on, and
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: you're like, wait, what, it's a.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: Weird puzzle box type mystery, like something's not quite right
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: in the universe all like.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like like it's like you got dumped into
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: a Twilight Zone episode that is the nexus of all
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 2: Twilight Zone episodes, so it's it's wild but very a
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: very enjoyable presentation. So that's kind of what it gave
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: me some control vibes. I don't think this doesn't look
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: to me like it's going to be on that same wavelength.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: But you know, it's definitely not a bad bad game
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: to you know, if something reminds you of control, that's
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: not a bad thing.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The kind of the log line that came through
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: this trailer was don't merge with them them being the
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: alien bad guy creatures.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: Or don't let them merge, don't let them merge.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: I thought it was don't merge with them, let them merge,
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: but maybe it's both.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: I think it's don't let them merge because I think
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: the idea is that some of these these mutant slash
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: alien slash zombie like critters, when they get close to
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: each other, merge into a bigger, more powerful monster that
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: you have to fight. So if you aren't quick and
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 2: don't prevent the merging, you have just made your job
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: that much harder.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: It's it's like the opposite of fighting slimes in D
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: and D or Minecraft.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: Where you hit one and they split into two and
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh no, yep, yep, it's the opposite of that.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: So that's it. Let's try to get this episode in
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: under two hours, barely, Jonathan. If people want to attempt
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: to reach you.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: How do they do that? All right? So, because of
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: my plans for the near future, what you're going to
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: need to do is you're going to need to travel
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: to Texarkana. And when you get to Texarkana, you're gonna
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: turn left. I know what you're thinking, Jonathan. How do
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: you know what direction I'm coming into Texarkana from. Don't
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: you worry your pretty littlehead about that. It's none of
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: your concern. Once you get to text Arkana, you're gonna
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: turn left, and you're going to travel for precisely sixty
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: four minutes. When you travel for sixty four minutes, and
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: I know what you're saying, Jonathan, Jonathan, how fast do
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 2: you mean travel?
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: Are you talking about on foot? Are you talking about
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 2: by bicycle? Are you talking about by vehicle? If by vehicle,
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: how fast can I drive? Don't you worry you're pretty
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: little ahead about that. It's none of your concern. You're
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: gotta turn left, you gotta travel for sixty four minutes precisely,
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: when you get to that spot. Sixty four minutes later,
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 2: you're going to stop. You're gonna dig a hole. In
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: that hole. You're going to plant a sunflower seed, which,
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: by the way, you're gonna have to bring with you.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: I should have said that at the top. But don't
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 2: worry about that. Gonna plant that sunflower seed, You're gonna
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 2: water it. Oh, I should have told you also, you're
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: gonna need to bring some water with you, but you
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: know whatever, and you're gonna water that sunflower seed. And
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: right before your eyes, that sunflower seed is going to
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: spring up and bloom. Now, when I say right before
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 2: your eyes, I don't mean this happens instantly. I mean
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: you actually are gonna have to wait there for the
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 2: natural process for the sunflower to grow to a point
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 2: where it can actually bloom. So that's gonna be a while.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: So you're gonna need to clear out your schedule for
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: quite some time. But when the sunflower blooms, you will
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: see the seeds start to form. Now when I say
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: you're gonna see the seeds start to form, I mean
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: that actually is another process. It's going to take quite
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: some time. It's not like again instantaneous, but you're going
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: to reach into the exact center the sunflower, the flower itself,
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: to pluck the seed that is at the very center
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: of the sunflower. You're gonna pop that open. You're going
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: to then eat that sunflower seed. It's gonna stick in
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: your throat, You're going to cough. You're gonna spin it out,
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: and then you're gonna notice that you spin it out
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: right at a point where there's a shadow, turn around.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: You'll see me standing there and I'll say, yeah, what
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 2: do you want?
• 1:55:25
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• 1:55:32
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• 1:55:36
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• 1:55:38
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• 1:55:54
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• 1:55:58
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• 1:56:08
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• 1:56:12
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• 1:56:17
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