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Ep. 280 - What Does the Bible Say About Dreams? · The Living Waters Podcast

• 1:04
  Ray Comfort: You are what you eat and same spiritually what you take in.
• 1:07
  Ray Comfort: You become I'm a cat.
• 1:09
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, you think about cats, yeah yeah, so what I was talking about was great.
• 1:14
  Ray Comfort: Thanks, ZZ.
• 1:17
  Emeal Zwayne: Did you?
• 1:17
  Ray Comfort: really totally.
• 1:18
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, I lost it.
• 1:19
  Ray Comfort: I just lost that train of thought.
• 1:20
  Emeal Zwayne: Thanks, Mark.
• 1:21
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, thank you very much.
• 1:22
  Ray Comfort: I was thinking of cats.
• 1:22
  Ray Comfort: You are what you eat.
• 1:24
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, you are what you eat, yeah, and you are what you are.
• 1:26
  Ray Comfort: Oh, people that watch horror movies yeah, just absolutely ghastly murderous slashes and blood everywhere.
• 1:34
  Ray Comfort: How do they not dream about things like that?
• 1:36
  Ray Comfort: Because what you take in, even years later, you're going to work out within your own psyche, because we're so complex.
• 1:47
  Emeal Zwayne: Do you guys remember the movie from back in the day?
• 1:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Throw Mama from the Train.
• 1:51
  Emeal Zwayne: What?
• 1:52
  Mark Spence: Yes, I didn't see it, though.
• 1:53
  Mark Spence: Was it Danny DeVito?
• 1:55
  Ray Comfort: Yes, mark, that was a kid's movie.
• 1:57
  Emeal Zwayne: No, a kid's movie.
• 1:58
  Emeal Zwayne: That sounds like it.
• 1:59
  Emeal Zwayne: It was Danny DeVito and he was going to try to throw his mom from a train.
• 2:04
  Emeal Zwayne: I think I'm going to produce a new movie called uh, throw your Arab son-in-law uh into a ditch and let him die.
• 2:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Cause Ray, recently you almost killed me I did yeah Again when yeah.
• 2:16
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, Um, in our lounge he wasn't even there, but I know you set a trap for me.
• 2:21
  Emeal Zwayne: You guys remember the little thingies that we used for the ping pong tables that held the little balls on the sides.
• 2:28
  Ray Comfort: Oh, the magnet, yeah, the very powerful magnet.
• 2:30
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, yeah, they're called idiot magnets, People that don't know how to handle them.
• 2:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, you set those idiot magnets up on the shelf in the lounge and I'm like, oh, it's just almost killed me.
• 2:44
  Ray Comfort: Wait, I'm missing something.
• 2:45
  Mark Spence: How did the magnet almost kill you?
• 2:46
  Mark Spence: Because they were separated.
• 2:48
  Emeal Zwayne: Wait, I'm missing something.
• 2:49
  Emeal Zwayne: How did the magnet almost kill you?
• 2:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Because they were separated.
• 2:51
  Emeal Zwayne: They were like in two spots and I move one or something, and they came together.
• 2:53
  Ray Comfort: These aren't ordinary magnets.
• 2:55
  Emeal Zwayne: They're dangerous magnets, but you used to do stuff with the Were.
• 2:58
  Emeal Zwayne: You doing stuff with magnets.
• 2:59
  Ray Comfort: We made a thousand little magnet boxes and we learned to handle them with great care, otherwise you're in great pain.
• 3:04
  Ray Comfort: Did you ever hurt yourself?
• 3:05
  Ray Comfort: Yes, many times.
• 3:07
  Emeal Zwayne: Is that what happened to?
• 3:08
  Ray Comfort: your face.
• 3:08
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, I just came two magnets, one each side.
• 3:11
  Emeal Zwayne: They are seriously dangerous.
• 3:13
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, you know these things like they come together and they clash like Like teenagers at a youth camp.
• 3:22
  Emeal Zwayne: They're loud, they're crazy.
• 3:25
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, ray, why?
• 3:26
  Emeal Zwayne: Why do you play with magnets and stuff?
• 3:28
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm always attracted to them.
• 3:30
  Emeal Zwayne: Remember those ones that were the little square ones, yes, or no.
• 3:37
  Emeal Zwayne: The round ones.
• 3:38
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, you could mold and shape.
• 3:40
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, really, you've been having dreams or something.
• 3:43
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, You've been dreaming Easy yeah.
• 3:45
  Ray Comfort: My magnetism there was a big magnet in the store that's about 100 times stronger than the ones you've got In the store.
• 3:53
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, the one that you've got to point the wand at it and it repulses, oh yeah.
• 3:58
  Emeal Zwayne: That's very, very powerful.
• 3:59
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray, you like making people feel stupid when they come out with that.
• 4:01
  Ray Comfort: Well, I don't have to try with you, it's natural.
• 4:10
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, so you love doing that with the kids that come in.
• 4:12
  Emeal Zwayne: Try to put what.
• 4:13
  Emeal Zwayne: Is it A good?
• 4:15
  Ray Comfort: test Hit the spot.
• 4:16
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, you've got a wand and you have to touch the red dot if you think you're a good person, and the powerful magnet repulses the wand.
• 4:23
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, and it really is fun.
• 4:25
  Ray Comfort: Do you guys know how magnets work?
• 4:26
  Ray Comfort: Yes, they attract or they repulse.
• 4:29
  Ray Comfort: I don't understand it, but atheists don't believe in it because you can't see it.
• 4:33
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, there's no such thing as magnetic force.
• 4:35
  Ray Comfort: Yes.
• 4:36
  Emeal Zwayne: One of my favorite things we ever produced was the box the.
• 4:41
  Emeal Zwayne: Are you a Good Person?
• 4:43
  Ray Comfort: That's the one that I made.
• 4:44
  Ray Comfort: Over a thousand of those.
• 4:45
  Ray Comfort: I made them at home because we're not allowed to manufacture on the premises, so we did them at home.
• 4:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, those were the best.
• 4:51
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, I used to carry one with me when I did evangelism.
• 4:54
  Ray Comfort: Oh really, yeah, yeah, we loved doing it until one day we just thought we don't like doing this anymore.
• 4:59
  Emeal Zwayne: Like the penny machine.
• 5:01
  Oscar Navarro: Oh, that was disgusting, did you hear about the magnetic train they're building to take you from LA to Las Vegas.
• 5:05
  Oscar Navarro: No, it's a train in a vacuum-sealed tube that's propelled by magnets.
• 5:11
  Oscar Navarro: Seriously, it's supposed to be one of the fastest trains in the world, and how much does it cost?
• 5:14
  Oscar Navarro: Him Like $15.
• 5:17
  Ray Comfort: It's insanely like billions and they can't raise money for it and they've wasted money.
• 5:22
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, the thing was like.
• 5:23
  Oscar Navarro: Actually I don't even want to guess.
• 5:29
  Emeal Zwayne: It was billions of dollars.
• 5:29
  Emeal Zwayne: That's amazing when you think about the things that man discovers that God had created.
• 5:31
  Emeal Zwayne: When was the first time that man experienced magnetic force like that?
• 5:38
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, someone found those two things that I left in there.
• 5:43
  Emeal Zwayne: And they got killed.
• 5:45
  Emeal Zwayne: Sparks, that's how fire was discovered.
• 5:48
  Emeal Zwayne: All right friends.
• 5:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Time for a cool, classy comment.
• 5:51
  Emeal Zwayne: This is from podcastatlivingwaterscom.
• 5:54
  Emeal Zwayne: My name is Alex, I'm 17 years old and I'm from Ireland.
• 5:59
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you all for what you are doing.
• 6:02
  Emeal Zwayne: I praise the Lord for your faithfulness and for using what means the Lord has given us to exhort brothers and sisters and proclaim his wonderful gospel.
• 6:10
  Emeal Zwayne: I just got done listening to the podcast episode on lessons from the life of King Josiah.
• 6:14
  Emeal Zwayne: I praise the Lord because it was both convicting and encouraging.
• 6:18
  Emeal Zwayne: By God's grace, he used it to convict me of not pursuing him faithfully, of apathy and walking in personal holiness, as I ought to.
• 6:26
  Emeal Zwayne: He has rekindled me to sincerely pursue him, to walk in personal holiness and walk faithfully to his glory, as Psalm 119 says.
• 6:35
  Emeal Zwayne: How can a man keep his way pure?
• 6:37
  Emeal Zwayne: By keeping it according to your word.
• 6:39
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you, oscar, for the encouraging word on how God redeems legacies seen greatly in the life of Josiah.
• 6:45
  Emeal Zwayne: I too, like Josiah, am the first believer in my generation and praise the Lord for it.
• 6:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you all once more.
• 6:52
  Emeal Zwayne: May God bless and keep you all and strengthen you in all your efforts.
• 6:57
  Emeal Zwayne: And easy keep it wheezy From the Emerald Isle in Christ, Alex O'Neill.
• 7:03
  Ray Comfort: I don't care about apathy.
• 7:04
  Oscar Navarro: He's from Ireland.
• 7:05
  Oscar Navarro: Can you give us your best Irish?
• 7:06
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, I'm from Ireland.
• 7:07
  Ray Comfort: Can you give us your best Irish accent?
• 7:08
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, I'm from Ireland.
• 7:10
  Mark Spence: Aren't we all first-generational Christians, I mean within our families?
• 7:14
  Mark Spence: None of our parents were Christians.
• 7:16
  Mark Spence: Oh, I hear what you're saying, that's true.
• 7:20
  Emeal Zwayne: But how cool at 17,.
• 7:22
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, it's amazing.
• 7:25
  Ray Comfort: When you said my name is Alex, I thought of my name as my name Alan.
• 7:30
  Emeal Zwayne: This theme is something I really like, Alex.
• 7:33
  Emeal Zwayne: What an encouragement.
• 7:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you so much for writing in.
• 7:35
  Emeal Zwayne: You've got great rugby players.
• 7:36
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, ray, who's the best rugby team in the world All?
• 7:39
  Ray Comfort: Blacks.
• 7:40
  Ray Comfort: I've just started a war between Ireland and New Zealand with that statement Springboks.
• 7:44
  Emeal Zwayne: What about the Springboks?
• 7:45
  Ray Comfort: What about the Springboks?
• 7:47
  Ray Comfort: That's from South?
• 7:47
  Emeal Zwayne: Africa.
• 7:48
  Emeal Zwayne: There was a good movie made on rugby Cool runnings, matt Damon.
• 7:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Didn't you watch it?
• 7:53
  Emeal Zwayne: Was that about South Africa and the All Blacks?
• 7:55
  Emeal Zwayne: Be careful what you say.
• 7:57
  Ray Comfort: Why the whole controversy was that South Africans gave poisonous food to the All Blacks and they got sick before the World Game and they lost because they were all weak.
• 8:07
  Ray Comfort: Did South Africa admit it?
• 8:09
  Ray Comfort: That was the whole premise of the movie, if I remember correctly.
• 8:13
  Ray Comfort: What's the name of the movie?
• 8:17
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray, why didn't you play rugby?
• 8:18
  Emeal Zwayne: You did Use the ball I'm around.
• 8:24
  Ray Comfort: They used to pass me around.
• 8:25
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm around Well, alex.
• 8:26
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you, brother.
• 8:27
  Emeal Zwayne: You have blessed our souls and we are encouraged that you've been encouraged.
• 8:31
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you for writing in.
• 8:33
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• 8:44
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• 8:53
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• 8:57
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• 9:01
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• 9:04
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• 9:10
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• 9:18
  Emeal Zwayne: I found out from the text you just sent me before the podcast I'm writing a book.
• 9:22
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• 9:25
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• 9:29
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• 9:41
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• 9:45
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• 9:48
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• 9:49
  Emeal Zwayne: I was reading Jesus Wept this morning in the Amplified Bible it was 15 chapters.
• 9:54
  Emeal Zwayne: That wouldn't surprise me at all.
• 9:56
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, so yeah, ray, keep writing books.
• 10:04
  Mark Spence: You know, I just read, macarthur has written 400.
• 10:05
  Emeal Zwayne: What 400.
• 10:06
  Emeal Zwayne: But he also said he's never written a book.
• 10:07
  Emeal Zwayne: That's true.
• 10:07
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• 10:08
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, yeah, yeah, that's kind of.
• 10:09
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• 10:16
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• 10:20
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• 10:22
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• 10:23
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• 10:26
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• 10:34
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• 10:38
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• 10:40
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• 10:46
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• 10:50
  Emeal Zwayne: All right, friends, Today we are talking about what does the Bible say about dreams?
• 10:58
  Emeal Zwayne: Here's my song.
• 10:59
  Emeal Zwayne: I dreamed a dream.
• 11:01
  Emeal Zwayne: I dreamed a dream.
• 11:03
  Emeal Zwayne: I dreamed a dream.
• 11:04
  Emeal Zwayne: The dream I dreamed was a dream.
• 11:07
  Oscar Navarro: I am so impressed with our listeners that will listen after that Well.
• 11:13
  Ray Comfort: I'm so impressed with Easy's humility.
• 11:15
  Ray Comfort: If I sung like that, I'd just be so proud.
• 11:17
  Ray Comfort: I'd never want to face anyone again, but it doesn't worry.
• 11:20
  Emeal Zwayne: Easy, because it's good.
• 11:21
  Emeal Zwayne: Many keep pleading that I keep singing, I must, I must.
• 11:25
  Ray Comfort: In the deaf society.
• 11:26
  Mark Spence: My kids say that they love it when you sing.
• 11:28
  Mark Spence: They, I must, and the deaf society?
• 11:29
  Mark Spence: My kids say that they love it when you sing.
• 11:31
  Emeal Zwayne: They're wise.
• 11:31
  Emeal Zwayne: No, no, they make fun of it.
• 11:31
  Emeal Zwayne: They laugh all the time they're insightful.
• 11:36
  Oscar Navarro: Yes, have you guys ever dreamt that you were an inanimate object?
• 11:40
  Oscar Navarro: Tell us.
• 11:41
  Oscar Navarro: I had a dream that I was a muffler.
• 11:47
  Ray Comfort: Oh, I had that when you felt exhausted.
• 11:48
  Emeal Zwayne: when you woke up, you knew that one right.
• 11:50
  Ray Comfort: Yes, yes.
• 11:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, that's a good one.
• 11:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, dreams man.
• 11:57
  Emeal Zwayne: It really is strange, you know you go into this world of insanity.
• 12:00
  Emeal Zwayne: We've talked about it before.
• 12:04
  Ray Comfort: And these things happen.
• 12:05
  Ray Comfort: No, you go into the world of insanity.
• 12:06
  Ray Comfort: We have dreams.
• 12:07
  Ray Comfort: I'm always in the world of insanity.
• 12:08
  Mark Spence: You really do more than anybody I've ever seen.
• 12:10
  Mark Spence: That's why we never share a hotel room anymore.
• 12:12
  Mark Spence: You ever wake up and Easy's over you with his eyes as big as saucers just staring at you.
• 12:18
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, it's frightening.
• 12:19
  Ray Comfort: You can make a movie of it.
• 12:21
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, yeah.
• 12:22
  Emeal Zwayne: But yeah, I mean, you go into the state of like, where you can't control what's happening, and you go into these realms of just crazy.
• 12:32
  Ray Comfort: And you don't know who's doing the programming.
• 12:34
  Emeal Zwayne: That's just you by the way that's just me so seriously.
• 12:37
  Emeal Zwayne: You guys ever have like reoccurring dreams that just like keep going?
• 12:42
  Oscar Navarro: I do have reoccurring dreams about once a year.
• 12:43
  Oscar Navarro: I've had a few over the course of my life and there's one that I've had since I can remember I have it once a year.
• 12:49
  Oscar Navarro: It's really weird.
• 12:51
  Oscar Navarro: Like once a year, like once-ish a year, maybe twice a year Is it on your birthday.
• 12:56
  Oscar Navarro: No, I have this dream.
• 12:57
  Oscar Navarro: This is so ridiculous, guys, I can't believe I'm sharing this.
• 12:59
  Oscar Navarro: I have this dream that I am not a person.
• 13:08
  Oscar Navarro: I'm like this giant bubble, but like I'm a conscience bubble and I'm at the bottom of a screen.
• 13:13
  Oscar Navarro: Conscience or conscience like I.
• 13:14
  Oscar Navarro: I have, like I can, I know, I have self-awareness.
• 13:15
  Oscar Navarro: Conscious, you're a conscious, that's what I said, but I have a mexican accent you could use that with anything couldn't you?
• 13:23
  Oscar Navarro: and my goal is to get like up.
• 13:25
  Oscar Navarro: But there's all these other gigantic bubbles around and I have to maneuver through them and if I bump into them they'll absorb me and I'll lose my like, I'll lose self.
• 13:36
  Ray Comfort: That's just the podcast.
• 13:37
  Ray Comfort: That's all that happens on the podcast.
• 13:39
  Oscar Navarro: I do.
• 13:40
  Oscar Navarro: I have this dream like once a year and I you know what it was too.
• 13:43
  Oscar Navarro: Is that I?
• 13:43
  Oscar Navarro: The scariest movie ever watched when I was a kid was Dumbo.
• 13:47
  Oscar Navarro: Do you remember the bubbles in that movie?
• 13:52
  Emeal Zwayne: No, we don't watch dumb movies.
• 13:55
  Oscar Navarro: My parents wouldn't allow me to watch that.
• 13:56
  Oscar Navarro: I don't know what, I can't even remember because I haven't seen this movie in forever, but the Disney movie Dumbo.
• 14:01
  Oscar Navarro: There's this scene where there's these bubbles floating around and he's floating through them and it scared me when I was a kid and ever since then I have this reoccurring dream of bubbles.
• 14:08
  Oscar Navarro: I was a kid and ever since then I have this reoccurring dream of bubbles.
• 14:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Oscar, I don't mean to pop your bubble, but it's weird, that's impossible.
• 14:16
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, you have one, I have one.
• 14:18
  Emeal Zwayne: What is it?
• 14:18
  Ray Comfort: Ray, I think you dream your fears and for years, probably for 30 years, I've had this dream that reoccurs not every year, but every now and then that I'm in a pulpit, thousands of people and I cannot find my place in my Bible in my big fat Bible.
• 14:32
  Ray Comfort: I'm going like this and it's just horrifying me and it's like just goes on and on and on until it ends.
• 14:38
  Ray Comfort: I don't know how it ends, but you dream your fears.
• 14:42
  Emeal Zwayne: No, you do.
• 14:43
  Emeal Zwayne: I had one recently where I was supposed to be in a play Is this going to be a long story, very and I had a part in a play, in a play and it was like you know, they were going through the play.
• 14:55
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm like, oh, I have time.
• 14:56
  Emeal Zwayne: And then I was late for it and I showed up.
• 14:59
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, that's the nightmare.
• 15:00
  Emeal Zwayne: The worst, the worst was I did it a second time in my dream and I'm like, no, no, no, that's not my MO, I don't normally do that.
• 15:07
  Emeal Zwayne: They're like this was a second time.
• 15:09
  Oscar Navarro: You were late.
• 15:10
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I was late Hi.
• 15:12
  Ray Comfort: Mark Good, what?
• 15:14
  Ray Comfort: What's your horrifying dream?
• 15:16
  Mark Spence: Well, I don't have horrifying dreams.
• 15:17
  Mark Spence: I do have a superpower in my dreams where I can just jump really high and far.
• 15:21
  Ray Comfort: Oh yeah, All the time, oh yeah, where you fly and you wake up and you're it for the podcast.
• 15:28
  Ray Comfort: Have you forgotten Potato bugs?
• 15:30
  Mark Spence: Yeah, tell us about potato bugs.
• 15:31
  Mark Spence: What am I going to say about potato bugs?
• 15:33
  Ray Comfort: You had something interesting to say about potato bugs.
• 15:35
  Emeal Zwayne: I don't remember why I was going to say it.
• 15:36
  Emeal Zwayne: They were really ugly Talk about nightmare.
• 15:38
  Ray Comfort: We were talking about bugs, Hoo-hoo grubs from New Zealand that the natives ate, and you said they're like potato bugs and you had come across any potato bugs, this specific potato bug.
• 15:58
  Mark Spence: send me pictures of that potato bug, because we don't have them here and I'm so fascinated by them.
• 16:02
  Mark Spence: I'd go in my backyard and just dig up something, find a potato bug, take a picture, send it up to him and he'd get so excited.
• 16:08
  Mark Spence: I'm like, wow, I go in and he goes how do they taste?
• 16:13
  Ray Comfort: No, he didn't say that, was he hungry or something?
• 16:18
  Emeal Zwayne: I have to say potato bugs are the grossest bug.
• 16:21
  Ray Comfort: Are they localized?
• 16:21
  Ray Comfort: Are they just America?
• 16:23
  Emeal Zwayne: They're big but they look like they have real human faces.
• 16:27
  Mark Spence: They're pretty good once you bake them Not with the carnivore diet I do.
• 16:33
  Oscar Navarro: My other reoccurring dream, by the way, is I'm swimming in a pool, but the water is like orange soda.
• 16:40
  Oscar Navarro: It's my fantasy.
• 16:46
  Emeal Zwayne: Did you just look that up, oscar, I may have had it.
• 16:49
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, I'm reserved.
• 16:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Oscar came ready with dream jokes, oh yeah.
• 16:54
  Emeal Zwayne: But you know, I think, in light of the topic we're talking about today, that a lot of people are radically impacted by their dreams.
• 17:03
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, I'll wake up sometimes having had a dream and it can really affect me for a good part of my day.
• 17:08
  Emeal Zwayne: And I think that's the question before us today.
• 17:12
  Emeal Zwayne: Right, as believers, we'll look at some of the different dreams in scripture and kind of the tone and tenor of dreams.
• 17:17
  Emeal Zwayne: But where are we today in God's economy in terms of dreams?
• 17:25
  Emeal Zwayne: Right, we know, in the Old Testament, even in the New Testament, dreams were used by God for different reasons.
• 17:30
  Emeal Zwayne: But how does that apply today?
• 17:33
  Emeal Zwayne: Can God direct us through a dream?
• 17:35
  Emeal Zwayne: Should we be looking for direction through dreams?
• 17:41
  Ray Comfort: I often seek God for a dream, do you Old men?
• 17:44
  Ray Comfort: No, they're called snooze.
• 17:46
  Oscar Navarro: Old men will dream dreams.
• 17:48
  Ray Comfort: No, no, no, no, no.
• 17:49
  Ray Comfort: In the last days I'll pour out my spirit in all flesh and young men will see visions.
• 17:53
  Ray Comfort: Old men dream dreams.
• 17:54
  Ray Comfort: I have visions in my sleep.
• 17:55
  Ray Comfort: Oh they're not dreams.
• 17:57
  Emeal Zwayne: So you're a young man, mm-hmm, that's what it is.
• 17:59
  Emeal Zwayne: Mm-hmm.
• 18:00
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, let's open that up and start talking about it guys Dreams, it guys dreams.
• 18:07
  Emeal Zwayne: So Old Testament, mark, I think you were talking about some different Old Testament.
• 18:13
  Mark Spence: I think everybody's kind of got those, the maybe the top ones, right.
• 18:16
  Mark Spence: We have Jacob's ladder, joseph's dreams and Pharaoh's dreams.
• 18:20
  Mark Spence: Those are the kind of top three where we'd see that God would actually communicate divinely through dreams and he would accomplish what he would want to do.
• 18:29
  Mark Spence: We would see guidance through dreams with Joseph and Mary, pilate's wife.
• 18:34
  Mark Spence: You don't have nothing to do with this unjust man.
• 18:37
  Mark Spence: So we do see many different biblical examples.
• 18:40
  Mark Spence: We can expand on those if you'd like, ez, but many different examples how God would lead us, direct us, prophecy would take place.
• 18:47
  Mark Spence: We see that with Daniel and King Nebuchadnezzar's dreams There'd be the symbolism of different future kingdoms that would take place.
• 18:56
  Mark Spence: And then general wisdom we would see.
• 18:59
  Mark Spence: In Ecclesiastes it says for in the multitude of dreams, many words, there are also device vanities.
• 19:05
  Mark Spence: I like a simple text there in Ecclesiastes, chapter 5, verse 3, where it says a dream comes through much activity.
• 19:15
  Mark Spence: And as I was kind of researching that a little bit, I didn't do a deep dive by any means, but I would see an overarching interpretation to that, being that we kind of dream about whatever activity is overloading inside of our hearts and our minds, inside of our daily life, things of that nature, sigmund Freud.
• 19:36
  Mark Spence: He proposed that dreams are a manifestation of our deepest desires and anxieties, often related to repressed childhood memories or unconscious thoughts.
• 19:45
  Mark Spence: You know, I believe you quoted Freud, a maniac in the central realm as he's really been known for.
• 19:54
  Mark Spence: Thanks, mark, and I did a little bit of a deep dive study on the science behind it, and there's several different ideas as to why we dream, and then there's the most common one.
• 20:06
  Mark Spence: We can discuss that later if you'd like.
• 20:08
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah yeah, no, that's good, yeah.
• 20:11
  Emeal Zwayne: And again we see in the Old Testament a lot of different instances where dreams were used, and sometimes in kind of emergency-type situations.
• 20:22
  Emeal Zwayne: You have Abimelech, who had taken Sarah up because Abraham had said she was his sister and put her into his harem.
• 20:31
  Emeal Zwayne: And then God sends him a dream don't touch Sarah, because she's Abraham's wife.
• 20:35
  Ray Comfort: That was a nightmare.
• 20:36
  Ray Comfort: He freaked out.
• 20:37
  Emeal Zwayne: He's like what have?
• 20:38
  Emeal Zwayne: You done to me.
• 20:39
  Emeal Zwayne: You have, of course, joseph and his famous dreams, but talk about tact.
• 20:47
  Emeal Zwayne: I think about Joseph sharing that dream with his brothers.
• 20:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Some dreams ought not to be shared.
• 20:53
  Ray Comfort: Well, if you figured it out, you've got to share it with your wife and realize in the first sentence how dumb it was.
• 20:58
  Oscar Navarro: It seems good in your brain.
• 21:00
  Ray Comfort: I'm going to tell her there's this elephant that was pink and I was holding onto its trunk, floating across the sky, and then, hang on, forget it.
• 21:05
  Ray Comfort: I was eating sushi made out of cat.
• 21:09
  Mark Spence: She just falls off.
• 21:11
  Emeal Zwayne: And I've heard of people getting upset with other people for their dreams.
• 21:15
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh yeah, how dare you.
• 21:16
  Oscar Navarro: What do you mean?
• 21:17
  Oscar Navarro: Have you guys ever done that?
• 21:18
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, your wife gets upset.
• 21:20
  Ray Comfort: You had a dream about you.
• 21:21
  Oscar Navarro: You were horrible.
• 21:21
  Oscar Navarro: I've had to apologize for Dream Oscar.
• 21:24
  Oscar Navarro: He sounds like a real something.
• 21:27
  Oscar Navarro: Dream Oscar, yeah, she'll wake up.
• 21:29
  Oscar Navarro: She's like you were meeting me in my dream last night.
• 21:31
  Oscar Navarro: I'm like I am so sorry.
• 21:35
  Mark Spence: I elbowed my wife in my sleep one time.
• 21:36
  Mark Spence: It had nothing to do with the dream, but she was upset at me.
• 21:39
  Mark Spence: I told her I was awake.
• 21:43
  Emeal Zwayne: It was better for me.
• 21:44
  Emeal Zwayne: I do it on purpose.
• 21:46
  Ray Comfort: Anyway, you should never give up on your dreams.
• 21:48
  Ray Comfort: Stay in bed.
• 21:51
  Emeal Zwayne: No, but seriously, there have been times when I've gotten up real early and I was dreaming something.
• 21:55
  Emeal Zwayne: I'll intentionally go back to sleep to continue.
• 21:58
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, I want to see what happens.
• 22:00
  Oscar Navarro: It's a good dream.
• 22:00
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, like if you're dreaming that you're a superhero or you have a superpower, you don't want to wake up from that dream.
• 22:06
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, you dreamed that you're flying.
• 22:08
  Ray Comfort: I have, yeah, I have.
• 22:09
  Ray Comfort: It was just a wonderful experience.
• 22:11
  Ray Comfort: It was the best.
• 22:11
  Ray Comfort: Disappointed when I woke up.
• 22:13
  Emeal Zwayne: No, but what Mark mentioned earlier with the jumping and flying, like I run and I jump and as I kick my legs I go higher and higher.
• 22:23
  Mark Spence: Yeah, as I go, like this Flat my wings.
• 22:24
  Mark Spence: No, no, no, no, no, no no.
• 22:27
  Emeal Zwayne: What's crazy, though, is how you have the different people have similar types of dreams, yeah, you know.
• 22:32
  Emeal Zwayne: Or the, the falling one, oh, the worst one you're and then you wake yourself.
• 22:36
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, that happens to me all the time.
• 22:37
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, or you jump because something's coming at you or something.
• 22:40
  Mark Spence: Yeah I have dreams that I beat up easy all the time, every night, I'm just pummeling them.
• 22:44
  Mark Spence: Keep dreaming.
• 22:45
  Oscar Navarro: When I have dreams, that's all it is when I have dreams that I'm fighting, though I'm always it's like fighting underwater, like my punches are super slow and they don't make real strong contact.
• 22:55
  Emeal Zwayne: Or I'm trying to scream but my voice won't come out.
• 22:57
  Ray Comfort: I heard that the other night.
• 23:04
  Oscar Navarro: You know, I think there's at least three different kinds of dreams that we can experience, and I think it's important to just differentiate between those things, because I think we can assume that one kind of dream is these types of dreams that you're rightfully bringing up in the old Testament.
• 23:15
  Oscar Navarro: But first you alluded to the idea, the first kind of dream, mark Spence.
• 23:19
  Oscar Navarro: You alluded to this first kind, which is the subconscious processing of dreams, and that's the science behind dreaming, is that when we are asleep, our memories, our past events, repressed desires, unfulfilled hopes, all these things are starting to be processed, like our brains are kind of like computers in which they take the experience, memories, repressed hopes from the day and they start storing them in certain areas of our minds.
• 23:48
  Ray Comfort: And most of the-.
• 23:55
  Oscar Navarro: Can you give an example of repressed hope?
• 23:56
  Oscar Navarro: Certain areas of our minds and most of the example of repressed hope?
• 23:55
  Oscar Navarro: Um, you know, um, the desire for a relationship If you're a single person.
• 23:55
  Oscar Navarro: A repressed hope?
• 23:55
  Oscar Navarro: Uh, most of the mind we know is subconscious, which means it's not stuff that we regularly actively utilize.
• 24:03
  Oscar Navarro: Um, and when we dream, we know it comes from the back of our, our brains, our prefrontal cortex, which is the part of our mind that is the fact checker that's asleep, and instead the amygdala, which is the area of our brain that has fear, emotion, imagination, which also passes through memory, that's firing on all cylinders, which, side note, is the reason why creatives often have like a spark of excited ideas in the middle of the night, and authors will have a pen and paper by their bedside, musicians will do the same thing.
• 24:45
  Oscar Navarro: That's the time where our mind is storing things and it activates the imagination.
• 24:51
  Oscar Navarro: Now and I know, ray, you just pointed out, ray, mark, I think you've woke up in the middle of the night and wrote entire books right Almost Now.
• 25:01
  Oscar Navarro: The challenge with this is that we tend to take these dreams that come from our subconscious and we try to interpret them through biblical language, or we try to imagine that there's some divine dream given to us by God, but these dreams are separate.
• 25:19
  Oscar Navarro: Those do happen, and I think we can talk about those later.
• 25:21
  Oscar Navarro: I think the thing that's interesting about our subconscious dreams you just mentioned this is that they're actually influenced by culture you mentioned.
• 25:31
  Oscar Navarro: Isn't it weird that we often have similar dreams, dreams of teeth falling out of punches?
• 25:36
  Oscar Navarro: That's because we have inherited narratives from our culture and we share that narrative, and that affects our subconscious when we are dreaming, and so we can have these shared themes because we share cultural identity.
• 25:52
  Oscar Navarro: Now here's the thing that's important those dreams are not given to us by God in the same way that he gave dreams to the gentlemen and ladies that you just mentioned in the Old Testament.
• 26:05
  Oscar Navarro: However, it's also important to recognize that God, in his sovereignty, does bring about mundane events in our lives and he attends for us to use those events.
• 26:22
  Oscar Navarro: I'll give you an example.
• 26:23
  Oscar Navarro: I knew a guy at a church who, years after this event happened, but he was explaining this to us in a men's Bible study one time.
• 26:33
  Oscar Navarro: He said that he, in the early part of his marriage, started to enter into a flirtatious relationship with somebody not his wife, and that he had a dream at night that scared him, like, like it, just it scared him.
• 26:50
  Oscar Navarro: It scared him awake and he realized that he was headed towards a pattern that would ultimately lead to adultery.
• 26:57
  Oscar Navarro: Now he recognizes God didn't send him that dream, the same way that the Old Testament examples that you just gave easy Rather.
• 27:05
  Oscar Navarro: God used his subconscious, used his subconscious, his experience, his repressed desires, and he used the dream that he had to remind him of his law and compel him towards repentance.
• 27:22
  Oscar Navarro: So those subconscious dreams can still be used by God, but they are categorically different than the dreams that you just mentioned in the Old Testament, that's good, yeah, you know, and I think the key is striking balance.
• 27:36
  Emeal Zwayne: Right, you know there is a danger, mark, wouldn't you say, in searching things out through things like dreams or signs, or because God's given us his written revelation.
• 27:52
  Mark Spence: Yeah, you don't.
• 27:53
  Mark Spence: You don't need a dream when you have God's word.
• 27:55
  Mark Spence: Yeah, right, it's.
• 27:56
  Mark Spence: It's a perfect word, it's an inerrant, inspired, infallible word.
• 28:00
  Mark Spence: So when we go outside of God's word for anything dealing with truths concerning God and and direction for our lives that have already been laid out inside of God's word, you're you're in danger.
• 28:11
  Mark Spence: I mean, it's as if God didn't think about something you know.
• 28:15
  Mark Spence: He has your days laid out, he knows what's up.
• 28:18
  Mark Spence: Remember the Bible doesn't tell us everything we want to know, but it tells us everything we need to know.
• 28:23
  Mark Spence: There was a guy who wrote a book Several Minutes in Hell.
• 28:27
  Oscar Navarro: I forget what it was called but it was all based on a dream 23 minutes in hell.
• 28:29
  Mark Spence: 23 minutes in hell, all based upon a dream that he had.
• 28:31
  Mark Spence: Well, how do you fact check them right?
• 28:34
  Mark Spence: You had a dream, okay.
• 28:35
  Mark Spence: Well, I had a dream.
• 28:35
  Mark Spence: It's like somebody come up and said hey, I had a dream that you're supposed to.
• 28:38
  Mark Spence: In fact, I met with a couple recently and I asked them for their story on how they met, how, and this woman said no joke, I had a dream that he was going to be my husband.
• 28:53
  Mark Spence: They are having all kinds of marital problems right now and I go.
• 28:59
  Mark Spence: I just want to understand this correctly.
• 29:01
  Mark Spence: So you guys are together because you had a dream and inside the dream, you were told that he is supposed to be your husband.
• 29:09
  Mark Spence: Yeah, what did he say?
• 29:11
  Mark Spence: He just smiled.
• 29:13
  Mark Spence: I mean, he was happy with it.
• 29:14
  Mark Spence: He was happy, but he goes.
• 29:15
  Mark Spence: Look she.
• 29:15
  Mark Spence: And in fact, during the midst of that time, she said you know, he's nothing like anybody that I would ordinarily go for.
• 29:22
  Mark Spence: Right there in the midst I was like, wow, yeah, yeah.
• 29:24
  Mark Spence: So relying upon a dream is very dangerous.
• 29:27
  Mark Spence: That's case in point.
• 29:28
  Ray Comfort: Martin Luther King had a similar problem.
• 29:31
  Mark Spence: I have a dream.
• 29:33
  Mark Spence: He said it seven times.
• 29:40
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, no, that's so true.
• 29:41
  Emeal Zwayne: And, friends, that's why we're discussing this today, you know, because there are excesses in everything right, and I think Oscar and Mark struck the balance in this that the danger is in when we begin to lead our lives on the basis of things that are extra biblical, and we're looking for those things and we're making them our focus.
• 29:57
  Emeal Zwayne: Now, as Oscar mentioned, can God direct us in a way where we have a dream, just like if we have a thought that pops into our mind, right, and that leads us to do something right and righteous and holy, absolutely, you know?
• 30:15
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, if you have a dream and it inspires you towards something good or righteous, that's great.
• 30:18
  Emeal Zwayne: The danger is when you start making that like an authoritative thing in your life.
• 30:22
  Emeal Zwayne: And God told me this, and this is, you know, this is gospel truth.
• 30:26
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray, you're going to say, oh, I was going to say.
• 30:29
  Ray Comfort: I know a dear Christian brother, who I see now and then, who keeps telling me he has dreams of me riding a white horse.
• 30:34
  Ray Comfort: And I've told him I don't have a white horse, leave me alone, I said, take no notice of it.
• 30:41
  Ray Comfort: Dreams in the Old Testament stayed in the realm of craziness.
• 30:44
  Ray Comfort: I mean, you think fat cows eating thin cows and thin cows eating more was the thin cows ate the fat cows?
• 30:49
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, you know.
• 30:49
  Ray Comfort: No wonder they needed to do that.
• 30:52
  Ray Comfort: You wouldn't even tell your wife about that.
• 30:53
  Ray Comfort: One, honey, I dream a cat ate the dog.
• 30:56
  Ray Comfort: What do you think of that?
• 30:57
  Ray Comfort: Is that the Lord?
• 30:58
  Ray Comfort: Also, dreams could be caused by too much Mexican food spicy.
• 31:04
  Ray Comfort: And also too many blankets on you can cause you to have dreams If you get too hot in bed.
• 31:08
  Ray Comfort: Holes in beds, hot.
• 31:10
  Ray Comfort: Holes in beds, hot, oh, holes in beds.
• 31:11
  Ray Comfort: If it gets too hot, I go down to the hole.
• 31:14
  Mark Spence: We used to have somebody that used to send in a handwritten letter as if he was in second grade, and he said here's the dream that I had, and God told me that you were going to interpret it and these letters would come in all the time.
• 31:26
  Oscar Navarro: Here at the ministry, at the ministry, at the ministry.
• 31:28
  Oscar Navarro: I was just trying to get your attention.
• 31:30
  Mark Spence: We knew it was you.
• 31:32
  Mark Spence: We know who it was.
• 31:34
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah we do.
• 31:35
  Oscar Navarro: One of the other things we haven't talked about is another kind of dream is spiritual attacks.
• 31:40
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah Right, some dreams are given to us by the enemy Jeremiah 23, 32,.
• 31:51
  Oscar Navarro: Their imaginary dreams are flagrant lies that lead my people into sin, and so that's an important reality, too is that our sin nature and spiritual warfare can often give us a dream that will direct us in a direction that's harmful to ourselves and even sinful against the Lord.
• 32:07
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, man, that's so important to remember that, you know, our fallen, sinful nature is capable of connecting with all sorts of ridiculous, wicked, sinful things.
• 32:18
  Emeal Zwayne: And yeah, there is that, that, that dynamic element, the spiritual dynamic element where, yeah, there could be things like that.
• 32:24
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, there are times when I've woken up and I'm like, ok, that that felt like a demonic type of dream you guys have had.
• 32:31
  Mark Spence: Oh, I've had tons of these night terrors.
• 32:33
  Mark Spence: Right, Really, when you're being attacked, you know it's spiritual and you're just trying to say Jesus.
• 32:39
  Ray Comfort: Boy, you just stole my thunder.
• 32:40
  Ray Comfort: I had the exact words.
• 32:41
  Ray Comfort: Go ahead and say it yeah, well, I was just going to say do you guys ever had that experience where you know it's demonic and there's no noise coming from your mouth and you're trying to say the name Jesus?
• 32:51
  Mark Spence: That's horrific, it's horrible.
• 32:53
  Mark Spence: And then, finally, when you yell Jesus, when it finally comes out, it's like you wake up.
• 32:58
  Ray Comfort: Seriously, it's like the craziest thing, and then it takes about 10 minutes to recover from that feeling.
• 33:03
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah for sure.
• 33:04
  Emeal Zwayne: And so I think it's important to keep all these things in their context.
• 33:08
  Emeal Zwayne: And, look, there are times when I think you can have a kind of dream that can really um set you on a course that can kind of manifest itself at different points in your life in a positive way.
• 33:21
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, I remember one time having a dream that, uh, all of our kids had died and but it was, you know, one of those where, like, you're like this is real and you're, you're, and even in your dream you're thinking I wish I was dreaming, because you're really thinking you're, you're in reality.
• 33:38
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, you're like I wish this was a dream, you know.
• 33:41
  Emeal Zwayne: But, yeah, one time all my kids had died and I had never experienced such deep grief.
• 33:45
  Emeal Zwayne: In fact, it woke Rachel up because I started to cry in real life, you know, because it was that deep and I just it was like, but that affected me in a way where I it makes me just value every moment with my children.
• 33:59
  Emeal Zwayne: You know the realization, like, yeah, life is fleeting.
• 34:02
  Emeal Zwayne: I need to make the most of every opportunity, the moments when you know I mean you hear those stories you get in an argument with one of your family members, your kids, your wife.
• 34:10
  Emeal Zwayne: They leave, they get in an accident, they die.
• 34:12
  Emeal Zwayne: You're left with that for the rest of your life.
• 34:16
  Mark Spence: You know, there's certain medications that affect the central nervous system where they will give you crazy, vivid dreams.
• 34:23
  Mark Spence: I remember in the late 90s I went to Uganda and I think you were part of that trip as well.
• 34:27
  Emeal Zwayne: I was about to share the same thing, oh yeah.
• 34:37
  Mark Spence: I was telling both of you guys's thunders and I know it's uh, it was to prevent, uh, malaria, yeah, this medicine that we were told to take.
• 34:40
  Mark Spence: And I remember telling robbie, uh douglas, say man, I just had the most vivid dreams.
• 34:41
  Mark Spence: He's all.
• 34:41
  Mark Spence: It's because you're taking this western medicine that you shouldn't take.
• 34:43
  Mark Spence: We don't take any of that medication over here.
• 34:45
  Mark Spence: Uh, and we're fine, says the guy who had like malaria six.
• 34:48
  Emeal Zwayne: Robbie robbie, robbie.
• 34:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Robbie has malaria.
• 34:51
  Emeal Zwayne: Give me the dream.
• 34:52
  Mark Spence: But as soon as we stopped the, as soon as I stopped taking that medication.
• 34:55
  Mark Spence: You know those very, very vivid dreams.
• 34:58
  Ray Comfort: Well, they go to a bad dreams.
• 35:00
  Mark Spence: Oh, they were just vivid and just crazy.
• 35:02
  Mark Spence: Yeah, I had this crazy dream that.
• 35:05
  Oscar Navarro: I was like I was at this campsite and somebody had like, had like like at this campsite and somebody had like, had like like tied me up and was like shoving this giant bag of marshmallows down my throat and when I woke up my pillow was gone.
• 35:22
  Mark Spence: You can't stop the smiling as you're telling the story.
• 35:25
  Ray Comfort: Raise nostrils flare when he's yeah it's not more than about two feet.
• 35:31
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah.
• 35:32
  Emeal Zwayne: So let's talk a little bit about guilt from dreams, because you know there are times when you have unclean dreams.
• 35:41
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm not going to get into detail in that regard, but I think a lot of people struggle in that regard.
• 35:48
  Emeal Zwayne: It's like am I responsible for that?
• 35:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Am I not responsible for that?
• 35:51
  Emeal Zwayne: Do I repent over that?
• 35:51
  Emeal Zwayne: Am I not responsible for that?
• 35:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Do I repent over that, do I not?
• 35:53
  Emeal Zwayne: And I know there are some people that beat themselves up over it and it's like, man, I can't stop these dreams, and so I'd love to hear your guys' thoughts on that.
• 36:03
  Ray Comfort: Well, your guys' thoughts.
• 36:05
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, you've never heard of that.
• 36:05
  Emeal Zwayne: Goises, goises, y'all, y'all, y'all's thoughts, your Y'all's thoughts, your guys's.
• 36:16
  Emeal Zwayne: It does sound weird, guys's, guys's, guys's, guys's, sorry.
• 36:18
  Mark Spence: Mac, you were saying no, I mean, I've had different guys come and talk to me, you know about this sort of thing, and I would say, listen, don't overthink it.
• 36:23
  Mark Spence: You know, confess it if you feel you need to confess something, but just move on, just move on from it.
• 36:29
  Mark Spence: And uh, dwelling long on something like that is is never a good idea.
• 36:35
  Mark Spence: Yeah, dwelling long on, fill in the blank, if it's not scriptural and biblical and beautiful and righteous and wholesome and pure and things from above, well then it's just not a good idea.
• 36:46
  Mark Spence: Yeah, right, so if somebody comes to me and they have an impaired dream, I say, yeah, well, acknowledge it before the Lord and just move on.
• 36:53
  Mark Spence: What point do you have here?
• 36:55
  Mark Spence: It's going to make you ineffective for the day.
• 36:57
  Mark Spence: I talked to guys way back when I had, like this guy's house and I'd say, hey, how are you doing?
• 37:02
  Mark Spence: How are you doing spiritually?
• 37:03
  Mark Spence: And they would tell me how they're doing physically or not doing physically.
• 37:09
  Mark Spence: You know what I mean, right?
• 37:10
  Mark Spence: And I said, no, listen, that's not what I'm asking.
• 37:12
  Mark Spence: I'm asking how are you doing spiritually?
• 37:13
  Mark Spence: How are you really doing?
• 37:16
  Mark Spence: How is the true you doing?
• 37:18
  Mark Spence: And the enemy would love to make us ineffective by having us dwell upon things that may or may not drive us closer to the Lord, and then the idea is just simply move on, just move on.
• 37:31
  Mark Spence: I think there's an obscure scripture in Job that says that God loves us too much to burden us down with the everyday monotonies of sin.
• 37:39
  Mark Spence: Right, we forget the fact that we're just sinners, right?
• 37:42
  Mark Spence: No, we're saints who occasionally sin.
• 37:43
  Mark Spence: I understand theologically, but we can be overburdened on each individual sin.
• 37:49
  Mark Spence: That we forget that, man, we're just a bunch of blow-its.
• 37:52
  Mark Spence: Move forward.
• 37:54
  Mark Spence: Maybe God is convicting you over certain things.
• 37:56
  Mark Spence: We'll acknowledge those things, but move on and be quick to move on.
• 38:00
  Mark Spence: Be quick to forget those things which lie behind and press onward and push upward towards the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.
• 38:05
  Mark Spence: Yeah, that's good.
• 38:07
  Oscar Navarro: I would say something very similar, mark.
• 38:09
  Oscar Navarro: I would say something in the effect of like look at that, you know dream that you wish you didn't have is.
• 38:15
  Oscar Navarro: Is the Lord revealing some dark area of your heart, some deep desire of you that you that you feel like now would be a good time to just God, take this out of me, get this away from me, or is he showing you something that you realize I don't want, that, I don't want that thing?
• 38:31
  Oscar Navarro: And then to your point like, take a moment to reflect on the the, the way you can, um, consider the dark areas of your heart.
• 38:40
  Oscar Navarro: And then to your point, mark, move on.
• 38:42
  Oscar Navarro: It's okay to to just trust in the grace of God and to move forward from that point forward.
• 38:48
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and we've talked before about the two sides of that coin.
• 38:50
  Emeal Zwayne: God knows your heart, right.
• 38:52
  Emeal Zwayne: For the unbeliever it's a terrifying thing.
• 38:54
  Emeal Zwayne: For the believer it's a refreshing thing because he knows, first of all, my desire and my spiritual man.
• 39:02
  Emeal Zwayne: Right, it's a Galatians 5 dynamic of the flesh lusts against the spirit, the spirit against the flesh.
• 39:08
  Emeal Zwayne: These are contrary to one another, so that you may not do that which you please.
• 39:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Who's the you there?
• 39:12
  Emeal Zwayne: The you is the regenerated spiritual man.
• 39:15
  Emeal Zwayne: So God knows that.
• 39:16
  Emeal Zwayne: He knows you don't desire that, and so there's that consolation in that, even in a dream that you had that wasn't pleasing to the Lord, the Lord knows you didn't want that.
• 39:26
  Emeal Zwayne: But you have, of course, the fallen nature and you have spiritual attacks, and then you have just the nature of things, right.
• 39:34
  Emeal Zwayne: In a fallen world, these things can pop into your mind.
• 39:36
  Emeal Zwayne: So, yeah, my encouragement is first of all, don't be condemned, because there is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ.
• 39:43
  Emeal Zwayne: And if you feel compelled to say, lord, forgive me for whatever part I had in that, in my sinful nature, that's fine, um, but but don't, yeah, don't dwell on it, don't get worked up in it.
• 39:54
  Emeal Zwayne: I would say this, and Ray, I'd love you to touch on this a bit.
• 39:58
  Emeal Zwayne: Um go ahead.
• 40:02
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, you know, when you, um, you have a dream well, I do my conscience is always there.
• 40:08
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, in the dream, right, there's something's something there saying hold it, this isn't right.
• 40:13
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, and so that when we have those sort of dreams, yeah, so.
• 40:17
  Emeal Zwayne: So here's the thing I'd like you to comment on.
• 40:19
  Emeal Zwayne: Not that, but um sudden noise.
• 40:22
  Emeal Zwayne: Um, people would be wise to examine what they're dwelling on, though in their waking hours.
• 40:31
  Emeal Zwayne: That's good, because, because if someone is having unclean dreams, impure dreams, and they're looking at impure things and thinking on impure things, they're very culpable in that.
• 40:42
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and not just unclean, impure things, but watching movies that have things in them that are dishonoring to the Lord, whether it's extreme violence or it's vulgarities or whatever.
• 40:54
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, you are what you eat and same spiritually what you take in.
• 40:58
  Ray Comfort: You become, and I often think I'm a cat yeah, you think about cats, yeah, you freak out.
• 41:05
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, so what I was talking about was great.
• 41:07
  Ray Comfort: Thanks, zz, you forgot.
• 41:09
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, so what I was talking about was great.
• 41:13
  Emeal Zwayne: Thanks ZZ, Did you really totally lose?
• 41:15
  Ray Comfort: it.
• 41:15
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, I lost it.
• 41:16
  Ray Comfort: I just lost that train of thought, thanks, Mark.
• 41:18
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, thank you very much.
• 41:19
  Ray Comfort: I was thinking of cats.
• 41:19
  Ray Comfort: What am I?
• 41:20
  Emeal Zwayne: going to say about cats, you are what you eat.
• 41:21
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, you are what you eat.
• 41:22
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, and you are what you are.
• 41:23
  Ray Comfort: Oh, people that watch horror movies yeah, murderous slashes and blood everywhere.
• 41:31
  Ray Comfort: How do they not dream about things like that?
• 41:33
  Ray Comfort: Because what you take in, even years later, you're going to work out within your own psyche, because we're so complex.
• 41:39
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I mean right, cause and effect.
• 41:40
  Emeal Zwayne: Don't be the kind of person who's complaining that you're having horror dreams.
• 41:45
  Emeal Zwayne: When you're constantly watching horror movies, you're filling your heart and mind with that.
• 41:50
  Emeal Zwayne: You're giving your brain material to take and to do weird things with Right.
• 41:55
  Emeal Zwayne: Because I mean, in terms of weirdness we know, so often the dreams make no sense at all.
• 42:00
  Emeal Zwayne: It's like you're in a certain place that you know, but it's a totally different place.
• 42:05
  Emeal Zwayne: But in your mind you're thinking this is my house, but you're like in another building in another country.
• 42:10
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, and so your brain does weird things.
• 42:13
  Emeal Zwayne: You don't want to give it fodder.
• 42:15
  Ray Comfort: Where does deja vu come into it?
• 42:16
  Ray Comfort: Wait, didn't you just say that I did just before?
• 42:18
  Ray Comfort: But deja vu is kind of weird, where we think we've been somewhere before we imagine it.
• 42:24
  Ray Comfort: Sometimes you can go into a dream realm in a split second.
• 42:29
  Ray Comfort: I do that sometimes when I go to have a snooze.
• 42:31
  Ray Comfort: Dream realm in a split second.
• 42:35
  Ray Comfort: I do that sometimes when I go to have a snooze.
• 42:36
  Ray Comfort: I'm just watching TV and then suddenly I'm into a dream within like a second.
• 42:38
  Ray Comfort: That's how I get through these podcast recordings when I used to travel with Ray.
• 42:42
  Ray Comfort: No wonder I've watched you.
• 42:43
  Mark Spence: When Ray would have trouble falling asleep, Ray would go Mark, I'm having trouble falling asleep, Tell me your testimony.
• 42:50
  Ray Comfort: Start when you were two.
• 42:51
  Ray Comfort: Just talk to me Mark.
• 42:53
  Ray Comfort: It all began when I was two years old.
• 42:57
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah.
• 42:57
  Emeal Zwayne: And so, guys, I'd love to wrap up with maybe just some encouragement oh, do you?
• 43:03
  Emeal Zwayne: You're going to rap, I'm going to rap, I'm going to do it all the time.
• 43:07
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, but I'd like to wrap up with just thoughts on what we can do before we go to sleep to try to fill our minds, because I think that's key.
• 43:18
  Emeal Zwayne: Right, putting things into our minds that may help us in our dreams.
• 43:22
  Emeal Zwayne: Right, drink milk.
• 43:26
  Mark Spence: Dream about cows.
• 43:27
  Ray Comfort: Do you drink milk?
• 43:27
  Mark Spence: with your carnivore diet.
• 43:28
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah yeah, I do, I had some last night before bed.
• 43:30
  Mark Spence: I love cold milk.
• 43:31
  Mark Spence: Did you sleep well?
• 43:32
  Mark Spence: I don't remember.
• 43:34
  Mark Spence: Laura put me on the couch.
• 43:35
  Mark Spence: No, she did not Is it.
• 43:37
  Mark Spence: I absolutely love cold, cold milk.
• 43:40
  Mark Spence: Easy doesn't understand people who just grab a cup of milk.
• 43:43
  Ray Comfort: It's a land flowing with milk.
• 43:45
  Ray Comfort: Wait, is it probably like?
• 43:46
  Emeal Zwayne: milk.
• 43:47
  Emeal Zwayne: I detest milk.
• 43:48
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, I love milk.
• 43:49
  Oscar Navarro: By itself.
• 43:50
  Mark Spence: That's probably why your bones are so frail by itself I sneak away into the garage where we have a refrigerator with milk.
• 43:56
  Mark Spence: It's ice cold.
• 43:57
  Mark Spence: I love ice cold milk.
• 43:59
  Emeal Zwayne: I don't understand it.
• 44:01
  Emeal Zwayne: Milk with Easy if you hit Priya for this.
• 44:03
  Emeal Zwayne: Milk with chocolate syrup, Milk like chocolate milk.
• 44:06
  Emeal Zwayne: Milk with cookies?
• 44:08
  Emeal Zwayne: Give me a break.
• 44:08
  Emeal Zwayne: Milk in your tea, Cookies.
• 44:10
  Emeal Zwayne: Milk in your tea.
• 44:10
  Emeal Zwayne: You treat milk like you drink coffee.
• 44:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Milk by itself Delicious.
• 44:15
  Oscar Navarro: It's like coffee by itself.
• 44:17
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, it doesn't say they come back with chocolate, milk and honey.
• 44:24
  Emeal Zwayne: Land flying with chocolate, milk and honey.
• 44:25
  Emeal Zwayne: No, actually in the original.
• 44:26
  Ray Comfort: Seriously, it's an old wife's tale, but it may be true that milk helps you sleep.
• 44:31
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, is it true, the whole warm milk thing?
• 44:33
  Emeal Zwayne: Drink warm milk.
• 44:34
  Ray Comfort: Lukewarm.
• 44:34
  Ray Comfort: No, no, not lukewarm, but hot milk's nice Right, cold milk's pretty warm.
• 44:39
  Emeal Zwayne: So, Mark, any ideas?
• 44:40
  Emeal Zwayne: What can our minds dwell on before we go to sleep?
• 44:42
  Emeal Zwayne: Easy.
• 44:43
  Mark Spence: Oh, steve Lawson dwells on one thing before he goes to bed, which is really a great idea he reads missionaries and the lives of missionaries, biographies, autobiographies.
• 44:55
  Mark Spence: Does that put him to sleep?
• 44:56
  Mark Spence: And he has written tons of books, biographies, on Puritans and people that have come before.
• 45:01
  Mark Spence: But he said it does wonders to his sleep and it lights a fire underneath them.
• 45:05
  Mark Spence: Wow, that's good.
• 45:07
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, yeah, you know, rachel and I typically end our evening with prayer and the word, and it's a delight to do that, you know, to end with God's Word in your heart, having talked to the Lord and then, especially as a couple, being able to come before the Lord together.
• 45:23
  Emeal Zwayne: But, yeah, I mean, there was someone recently that I heard who says, oh, I think it was John Piper.
• 45:30
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, he recites a verse to himself, that's right, I think before he goes to bed and and it it.
• 45:38
  Emeal Zwayne: I can't remember exactly what it was, but it's something powerful that impacts him in terms of, like, remembering who he is in the Lord and who God is.
• 45:44
  Emeal Zwayne: And and so we're all different.
• 45:47
  Emeal Zwayne: You know there are different things that we can come up with, but think about that, right, what are you, in general, filling your heart and mind and soul with?
• 45:55
  Emeal Zwayne: And that may be the thing that might show up in your dreams, so don't be surprised.
• 46:01
  Ray Comfort: Read books about dreams.
• 46:03
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh yeah, dreams.
• 46:04
  Oscar Navarro: I do want to praise the Lord for something, because he does, throughout the Old Testament and New use, dreams to advance his kingdom and he appears to still be doing that today.
• 46:13
  Oscar Navarro: But pause for a second.
• 46:14
  Oscar Navarro: In the book Gospel Trilogy, greamey Goldsworthy I'm probably mispronouncing, pronouncing missaying his first- name.
• 46:23
  Ray Comfort: You're not getting the word pronounced correct.
• 46:25
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm mispronouncing the word mispronouncing Oscar.
• 46:27
  Oscar Navarro: The irony you need an award for that.
• 46:30
  Oscar Navarro: That's meta.
• 46:30
  Oscar Navarro: He says this every case of special guidance given to individuals in the Bible has to do with that person's place in the outworking of God, gives special and specific guidance to the ordinary believing Israelite or Christian and their details of their personal experience.
• 46:57
  Oscar Navarro: In other words, what he's saying is that God works through the New and Old Testament, through dreams, to advance his kingdom.
• 47:06
  Oscar Navarro: Not to tell you who you're going to marry, not to tell you what to do next in a relationship, certainly never anything that contradicts scriptures.
• 47:13
  Oscar Navarro: And so here's where I want to praise the Lord.
• 47:15
  Oscar Navarro: There are so many testimonies that I've heard of coming out of places like the Middle East, the 1040 window, where preaching the gospel can get you killed, where people will have never heard the gospel before.
• 47:29
  Oscar Navarro: They will have a dream and, as they would describe, it's a dream about Jesus.
• 47:35
  Oscar Navarro: The gospel is preached, they repent and come to a saving faith.
• 47:38
  Oscar Navarro: And so my point is praise the Lord that he seems to still be working through dreams today, but recognize that it's always in the advancement of his kingdom, amen, amen.
• 47:53
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I mean a dream that leads to salvation.
• 47:55
  Emeal Zwayne: That's amazing.
• 47:56
  Emeal Zwayne: That's a dream that I could put my seal of approval on and say, Lord, yeah, you, by your grace, just like you would through the word preached, you know, pierce someone's heart.
• 48:05
  Mark Spence: I found the scripture that John Piper oh, he did, yeah, I don't know if you want me to quote it or say the reference.
• 48:09
  Mark Spence: It's Habakkuk 3, verses 17 to 18.
• 48:12
  Mark Spence: He said, though the fig tree should not blossom, nor fruit be on the vines, the produce of the olive fail and the fields yield no food, the flock be cut off from the fold and there be no herd in the stalls yet, yet, yet I will rejoice in the Lord and I will take joy in the God of my salvation.
• 48:30
  Mark Spence: And it's just a reflection for him on the deep trust of God and in God's salvation.
• 48:36
  Emeal Zwayne: One of my favorite verses, actually so beautiful.
• 48:38
  Emeal Zwayne: You know that heart that says I trust you unconditionally, lord, and so well, friends, there you have it.
• 48:44
  Emeal Zwayne: We hope you don't dream about us tonight or have nightmares rather about Mark, oscar and Ray.
• 48:51
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• 48:52
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• 49:12
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• 49:14
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