Latest / The Skol Hop / Jauan Jennings Juxtapositions, Schedule Small-talk, Honored Halfback | TSH Ep. 138
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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
- 0:03Speaker 1: of the Schoolhop.
- 0:04Speaker 2: I'm Evan and I'm Austin.
- 0:05Speaker 1: We're just a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like
- 0:07Speaker 1: drinking beer and talking about the Vikings.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. And the Vikings added another wide receiver
- 0:12Speaker 2: to their wide receiver room. Might be one of the
- 0:14Speaker 2: best rooms in the league. Evan, what are your.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Thoughts, Yeah, I'm pretty excited. Should be a good addition,
- 0:20Speaker 1: and if the stats say anything, he should be up
- 0:24Speaker 1: there in terms of Vikings receivers. We also looked at
- 0:27Speaker 1: Vikings twenty twenty six opponents. We won't know the schedule
- 0:30Speaker 1: till next week, but what are your thoughts.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still a little too early to know anything
- 0:35Speaker 2: for sure, but it was fun to make predictions and
- 0:38Speaker 2: kind of speculate what we think might happen.
- 0:40Speaker 1: Yeah, and we got news today that Adrian Peterson is
- 0:43Speaker 1: going to be in the Ring of Honor at US
- 0:45Speaker 1: Bank Stadium. What are your thoughts on that?
- 0:46Speaker 2: Well, well deserved and almost a formality because we all
- 0:50Speaker 2: knew that was going to happen, But I think he's
- 0:53Speaker 2: definitely a Hall of Famer too.
- 0:55Speaker 1: I think this beer might be a Hall of Fame
- 0:58Speaker 1: beer up us for episode one eight of the School
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- 2:28Speaker 1: Father's Day is coming up. It is be a good
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- 2:36Speaker 2: dorm room. Yeah, yeah, all right, man, I'm really excited
- 2:41Speaker 2: for this beer that we've got.
- 2:42Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to know what compelled you to pick
- 2:46Speaker 1: this beer over the others.
- 2:47Speaker 2: I just haven't had this one before. But our beer
- 2:51Speaker 2: tonight is from a very local brewery, Front Street Brewery
- 2:55Speaker 2: out of Davenport, and they have a popular one called
- 3:00Speaker 2: the Cherry Bomb blonde. Cherry Bomb, Yeah, very popular. I
- 3:06Speaker 2: like that one a lot. That's not what we're having tonight, though.
- 3:09Speaker 2: We've got something called their blue Jacket. It's a blueberry blonde,
- 3:14Speaker 2: so I'm assuming it's going to be very similar to
- 3:17Speaker 2: the cherry just blueberry. I don't know if I've ever
- 3:20Speaker 2: had a blueberry beer, but I know there's quite a
- 3:24Speaker 2: few of them out there.
- 3:25Speaker 1: I feel like we had a blueberry beer on the show.
- 3:27Speaker 2: You know, it's very possible.
- 3:30Speaker 1: I can smell the blueberry.
- 3:32Speaker 2: It is strong, so I hope it's I hope it's
- 3:36Speaker 2: not like a sour type tasting beer. It's definitely. It
- 3:40Speaker 2: says it's a blonde, so it should still be a
- 3:43Speaker 2: beer's beer. But I'm interested to see how the blueberry
- 3:47Speaker 2: works out.
- 3:47Speaker 1: We had a blueberry Graham Smacker from Green Tree Brewery
- 3:52Speaker 1: in Leclaire, Iowa, on episode thirty one, way back in
- 3:57Speaker 1: twenty twenty four.
- 3:58Speaker 2: I think my wife got us that.
- 4:00Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you pack.
- 4:01Speaker 2: Yeah, she was pretty proud of that at the time.
- 4:03Speaker 2: So yeah, I guess I forgot about that one. But yeah,
- 4:07Speaker 2: maybe have done a little bit too hard of a
- 4:09Speaker 2: poor here.
- 4:11Speaker 1: Typical here, grab a coaster.
- 4:15Speaker 2: Oh yeah, our Tatanka coasters here, all right, But yeah,
- 4:18Speaker 2: I'm really excited for this one. Blueberry obviously really good
- 4:22Speaker 2: head retention. It looks it looks like a beer, you know,
- 4:25Speaker 2: it's got a nice golden color, blonde color.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of got some sediment that I'm seeing
- 4:31Speaker 1: kind of just a little floating in there, which means
- 4:34Speaker 1: there's a lot of flavor in there.
- 4:37Speaker 2: Yeah, so say we dive right in school.
- 4:46Speaker 1: It's not as blueberry as I thought it would be.
- 4:49Speaker 1: The aroma is there, but the flavor is more beer heavy. Yeah,
- 4:55Speaker 1: it's more beer forward with a little bit of blueberry.
- 4:57Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely a nice hint of blueberry. But it's
- 5:00Speaker 2: not like I was kind of concerned that it would
- 5:02Speaker 2: be like a sour where it's like, oh man, that's
- 5:04Speaker 2: like a full bite of blueberry pie or something. No,
- 5:08Speaker 2: it's like a nice hint of blueberry. Yeah, it's good.
- 5:11Speaker 1: I like it.
- 5:12Speaker 2: I think their cherry bomb blonde has a maybe a
- 5:15Speaker 2: more prominent hint of cherry, but still not like cherry pie,
- 5:19Speaker 2: you know. So, Yeah, I guess right in that wheelhouse.
- 5:22Speaker 2: I like it a lot.
- 5:23Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff, good find. Yeah, I would have it again. Sure?
- 5:26Speaker 2: And what is it?
- 5:28Speaker 1: Five something?
- 5:29Speaker 2: Five point four percent? I think yeah, you could definitely
- 5:33Speaker 2: crush these. It's high on the the lawnmower scale.
- 5:37Speaker 1: It be like a like a about this time of
- 5:41Speaker 1: year May June. Flowers are out, the sun is out,
- 5:45Speaker 1: it's a nice sunny day. It's refreshing. It's got a
- 5:47Speaker 1: little bit of that fruity flavor to it.
- 5:50Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. Good jobb Front Street.
- 5:53Speaker 1: All right, Well, we could also applaud the Vikings for
- 5:57Speaker 1: making some moves here now that the draft is over
- 6:00Speaker 1: and we've spent a couple of weeks kind of going
- 6:02Speaker 1: through draft picks and and all that. We had front
- 6:05Speaker 1: of the show forest on last week. But the Vikings
- 6:08Speaker 1: aren't done, and they made a pretty splashy move at
- 6:11Speaker 1: receiver that we could spend a little bit of time
- 6:15Speaker 1: talking about you want to tell him who it is?
- 6:16Speaker 2: Yeah, the Vikings signed Juwan Jennings. I think it was
- 6:20Speaker 2: officially done today, Monday the eleventh. Yeah, one year. I
- 6:26Speaker 2: think I saw one year eight million dollars with the
- 6:28Speaker 2: potential of being up to thirteen million dollars. We talked
- 6:32Speaker 2: about him. I don't know if it was last week
- 6:34Speaker 2: or the week before quite a bit because he had
- 6:37Speaker 2: done an official visit. I think while we were recording
- 6:40Speaker 2: the podcast a couple episodes ago, he was on an
- 6:42Speaker 2: official visit with the Vikings. I've always been, you know,
- 6:47Speaker 2: a fan of Juwan Jennings, at least on the field.
- 6:49Speaker 2: I don't know much about him off the field, but
- 6:52Speaker 2: I think I said at the time he's one of
- 6:54Speaker 2: those players that I always ended up drafting in fantasy
- 6:58Speaker 2: just because I got to a certain point in the
- 6:59Speaker 2: draft every time and realize, oh, you know, I should
- 7:02Speaker 2: probably grab a wide receiver. And for the most part,
- 7:04Speaker 2: he's done well for my fantasy teams, and I think
- 7:08Speaker 2: from everything I've seen he should be a really really
- 7:11Speaker 2: good wide receiver three for the Vikings. He could probably
- 7:15Speaker 2: be a wide receiver two on most teams. Yeah, I'm excited.
- 7:19Speaker 2: I think he's probably the best wide receiver three the
- 7:23Speaker 2: Vikings have had in quite a while.
- 7:26Speaker 1: Well, let's take a look at his stats, because I'm
- 7:28Speaker 1: a numbers guy. I like to see how those stats
- 7:31Speaker 1: add up. So he is sitting at He's got five
- 7:35Speaker 1: years in the league, all with San Francisco. He's played
- 7:40Speaker 1: seventy five games, started thirty two of them. So he's
- 7:43Speaker 1: not a starter, at least he wasn't to start his career.
- 7:47Speaker 2: I mean, there's always been Deebo, Samuel and Brandon Ayuk,
- 7:50Speaker 2: and he's he's become.
- 7:53Speaker 1: More of a starter of the last couple of years.
- 7:55Speaker 1: Two hundred and ten catches for almost six hundred yards,
- 8:02Speaker 1: twenty two touchdowns. Let's see anything else there yards per
- 8:08Speaker 1: game thirty four point four. So yeah, I like that.
- 8:12Speaker 2: I think his at least yardage numbers, they seem to
- 8:16Speaker 2: stack up really well with Jordan Addison, who also seems
- 8:21Speaker 2: like maybe I think Jordan Addison his stats are maybe
- 8:24Speaker 2: a little bit better too. But guys that seem like
- 8:29Speaker 2: they're on the cusp of being a thousand yard receiver
- 8:34Speaker 2: handful of touchdown a year. Guys. Yeah, I think this
- 8:38Speaker 2: makes the Vikings have arguably one of the best wide
- 8:42Speaker 2: receiver rooms in the league right now, which is something
- 8:45Speaker 2: that will only help whoever ends up starting at quarterback.
- 8:49Speaker 1: I wonder if we could do a quick little Jennings
- 8:53Speaker 1: versus like a kJ Osbourne, for example. Let's look at
- 8:57Speaker 1: those two and I guess we could add who is
- 9:01Speaker 1: the Who's the guy that I'm thinking of that the
- 9:03Speaker 1: Vikings just let go.
- 9:06Speaker 2: Jalen Naylor. Jalen Yeah, yeah, let him go so much
- 9:10Speaker 2: as he got a good deal with the Raiders that
- 9:13Speaker 2: I think the Vikings were gonna sign. But it's comparable.
- 9:17Speaker 2: It's worth mentioning Jalen Naylor. His money per year is
- 9:22Speaker 2: very similar to what the Vikings gave Juwan Jennings. It's
- 9:26Speaker 2: just that they gave Jennings a one year, dear one
- 9:29Speaker 2: year deal, whereas Naylor got a I believe a three
- 9:32Speaker 2: year deal with the Raiders. So you got this comparison up.
- 9:35Speaker 2: Maybe we could even like throw.
- 9:36Speaker 1: It up to Yeah, I'll take a screenshot of it
- 9:38Speaker 1: and we'll put it up on the on the screen
- 9:41Speaker 1: here right above my face here, yeah, right over your face.
- 9:45Speaker 1: Did you see that one time that I actually did that?
- 9:47Speaker 2: I know was it when I was joking a few
- 9:49Speaker 2: episodes ago.
- 9:49Speaker 1: Actually I did that for like a split second and
- 9:52Speaker 1: then I moved it. It was pretty fun. Yeah, So
- 9:55Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings actually leads all three of these guys and
- 9:59Speaker 1: most receiving categories. kJ Osborne leads everybody in the rushing categories.
- 10:04Speaker 1: Oh interesting, and Jalen Taylor yards per game, receiving yards
- 10:12Speaker 1: per game. I should say he leads these guys. Juwan
- 10:15Speaker 1: Jennings is not a backfield guy, so it doesn't look
- 10:19Speaker 1: like he's used to lining up and taking handoffs. But
- 10:23Speaker 1: you mentioned fantasy fantasy points three hundred and ninety point one.
- 10:28Speaker 1: I don't know if that's like a cumulative number or.
- 10:30Speaker 2: That might be, you know, when you take into account
- 10:32Speaker 2: the points per reception and stuff like that.
- 10:36Speaker 1: But he's not not just productive there, but it looks
- 10:39Speaker 1: like he's productive everywhere.
- 10:41Speaker 2: And that's over the course of what five years in
- 10:44Speaker 2: the league, So average it out, that's not bad.
- 10:46Speaker 1: He might be just a step above kJ Jalen So
- 10:52Speaker 1: I like it. I think that's a good get.
- 10:54Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it only helps the
- 10:57Speaker 2: Vikings and is the run game. I think what he
- 11:01Speaker 2: has been said about Jowan Jennings is he's pretty decent
- 11:04Speaker 2: as a run blocker, so he'll help out as a
- 11:08Speaker 2: supporter in that area. Admittedly, I don't know that, you know,
- 11:13Speaker 2: for my own personal observation, but that's just what I've
- 11:16Speaker 2: seen Twitter say that he's pretty good run blocking, So yeah,
- 11:20Speaker 2: it definitely only helps the team.
- 11:23Speaker 1: And I think if over the cap is accurate, the
- 11:27Speaker 1: Vikings still have twelve million in cap space, So.
- 11:32Speaker 2: Yeah, I have seen people kind of liken this Jennings
- 11:37Speaker 2: signing and kind of looping it in with the whole
- 11:41Speaker 2: big picture of trading away Jonathan Grenard. People are saying,
- 11:46Speaker 2: and if you want to kind of stretch it to
- 11:48Speaker 2: say this, you could get me to believe it too.
- 11:51Speaker 2: By getting By trading away Jonathan Gernard, the Vikings got
- 11:55Speaker 2: two third round picks, which one of them was Jacoby Thomas.
- 12:00Speaker 2: Is that the safety they drafted. The other third round
- 12:04Speaker 2: pick is in next year's draft. And then they also
- 12:07Speaker 2: signed Joan Jennings, So I don't think they're signing a
- 12:12Speaker 2: thirteen million dollar player right now if they still have
- 12:16Speaker 2: Jonathan Grenard on the roster. So, whether you hated the
- 12:21Speaker 2: trade or not of getting rid of Grenard. There's some
- 12:24Speaker 2: silver lining, and hopefully, hopefully Jennings can actually turn into
- 12:29Speaker 2: a decent target rather than being one other guy on
- 12:35Speaker 2: a long list of free agent wide receivers the Vikings
- 12:39Speaker 2: have signed in recent years that kind of don't really
- 12:41Speaker 2: turn out to do much on the field.
- 12:44Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully he's productive, and hopefully he's the guy that
- 12:47Speaker 1: can step in and draw attention away from Addison and Jefferson,
- 12:54Speaker 1: and hopefully he's also the guy that when Jordan Addison
- 12:57Speaker 1: inevitably does something stupid has to sit out for a
- 13:00Speaker 1: couple of games, he can step into that wide receiver
- 13:04Speaker 1: to roll and ease the burden on Justin Jefferson to
- 13:08Speaker 1: make make those big plays.
- 13:10Speaker 2: So I wonder if you could rewind the clock and
- 13:13Speaker 2: go back to this time last year when the Vikings
- 13:18Speaker 2: ended up trading they had another, you know, need at
- 13:21Speaker 2: wide receiver and they sent what was it the equivalent
- 13:25Speaker 2: of like a fourth round pick to the Panthers to
- 13:28Speaker 2: bring back Adam Thielen. I wonder if they could go
- 13:31Speaker 2: back what the trade value Juwan Jennings would have had
- 13:36Speaker 2: with the forty nine ers, and if it would have
- 13:39Speaker 2: been something like a fourth round pick, if they if
- 13:43Speaker 2: that that was the move they should have done a
- 13:45Speaker 2: year ago rather than sign him a free agency this year.
- 13:48Speaker 2: He probably I'm guessing he probably would have cost more
- 13:51Speaker 2: than a fourth rounder from San Francisco even going into
- 13:55Speaker 2: the final year of his deal. But that's it's a
- 13:57Speaker 2: fun thought experiment to have, Like in twenty twenty five,
- 14:02Speaker 2: would we have rather have Juwan Jennings than Adam Thelen
- 14:06Speaker 2: because obviously we know how that Theling experiment worked out.
- 14:09Speaker 2: It didn't It didn't and then he pouted and you know,
- 14:13Speaker 2: asked for his release and didn't really work out for
- 14:16Speaker 2: him there either. So yeah, I wonder if we could
- 14:21Speaker 2: go back in time and do that, if that would
- 14:22Speaker 2: have been a better situation.
- 14:24Speaker 1: Yeah, he might be onto something there, and here we
- 14:27Speaker 1: are now getting to see it. You know, it would
- 14:30Speaker 1: have been nice to see it a year ago instead
- 14:32Speaker 1: of having gone through all of what the Vikings went
- 14:36Speaker 1: through with the Harrison Smith stuff, but.
- 14:40Speaker 2: That Adam Thelen stuff.
- 14:41Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sorry, that's what I was thinking of too
- 14:45Speaker 1: many different players to keep track of. Yeah, you're right, though,
- 14:50Speaker 1: what other additions have the Vikings made and are they
- 14:54Speaker 1: good ones? And are there more that the Vikings need
- 14:56Speaker 1: to make do you think before training camp and the
- 15:01Speaker 1: season and all that.
- 15:02Speaker 2: Sure, So since the draft they've had their rookie Mini
- 15:06Speaker 2: camp now and I think still some voluntary workouts are happening.
- 15:10Speaker 2: But they had that, like I think, just one day
- 15:12Speaker 2: of rookie mini camp, and afterwards they ended up signing
- 15:15Speaker 2: a couple of guys that were invites to that rookie
- 15:18Speaker 2: mini camp, kind of like Adam Thielen was way back
- 15:21Speaker 2: in the day where he was not even undrafted. He
- 15:24Speaker 2: just got invited to a mini camp. Two guys they signed,
- 15:28Speaker 2: a defensive lineman, Smith Vilbert, sweet name yeah, and another
- 15:33Speaker 2: sweet name, a linebacker. I'm probably gonna say this wrong,
- 15:38Speaker 2: but Bengali Kamara Kamara Kamara. So I don't know.
- 15:46Speaker 1: We're a family friendly podcast here and cut the exploitives out, man,
- 15:51Speaker 1: come on, have to bleep it out.
- 15:52Speaker 2: I know, right, But yeah, I don't know anything about
- 15:55Speaker 2: these guys. I read the quick little article the Vikings
- 15:59Speaker 2: put out when they announced that they signed both of them.
- 16:02Speaker 2: They seemed like they had decent experience in college when
- 16:05Speaker 2: they were in there. Much like most of the draft
- 16:08Speaker 2: picks they got, these guys had a lot of games
- 16:11Speaker 2: played in college outside of that, I got nothing. I
- 16:14Speaker 2: don't know. I do know it's probably difficult with so
- 16:20Speaker 2: many limited reps in one day of practice, and I
- 16:24Speaker 2: don't know whatever else time they had meeting rooms and stuff.
- 16:28Speaker 2: Probably difficult to impress enough to get a spot on
- 16:32Speaker 2: a roster when you're just a warm body in a
- 16:36Speaker 2: rookie mini camp. So I don't know if the Vikings
- 16:39Speaker 2: were still looking and saying, we really need to bolster
- 16:42Speaker 2: up our we need one more guy in the defensive
- 16:45Speaker 2: line room and one more guy in the linebacker room,
- 16:47Speaker 2: and those were just the ones that stood out, or
- 16:50Speaker 2: if they just were truly like, hey, anybody that stands out,
- 16:53Speaker 2: we're going to really keep an eye on them. So
- 16:55Speaker 2: I don't know. These guys could be nothing. You know,
- 16:58Speaker 2: they could end up not making the team, or they
- 17:00Speaker 2: could be another Adam Thielen or Jalen Redmond who was
- 17:05Speaker 2: an undrafted guy, So you never know. Another thing I
- 17:09Speaker 2: thought was interesting was that during the rookie mini camp,
- 17:16Speaker 2: the Vikings they have four quarterbacks on the roster right now,
- 17:21Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy, Kyler Murray, Max Brosmer, and Carson Wentz in
- 17:24Speaker 2: no particular order, But none of those guys were at
- 17:29Speaker 2: at least throwing at the mini camp, so they brought
- 17:32Speaker 2: in a couple of guys and I forget the aiden something,
- 17:35Speaker 2: I forget where he was from, but long time, you
- 17:39Speaker 2: know number two quarterback in the league, Cooper Rush, he
- 17:43Speaker 2: was there too, so really interesting. I know, in Kevin
- 17:47Speaker 2: O'Connell's press conference after the practices were all done, somebody
- 17:52Speaker 2: asked him like, hey, what'd you think of Cooper Rush today?
- 17:55Speaker 2: And KOs was basically like, you know, it was just
- 17:58Speaker 2: another good time to get him in kind of feel out,
- 18:02Speaker 2: like hey, how do you like us? How do we
- 18:04Speaker 2: like you? You know, just get to know each other.
- 18:08Speaker 2: And Kosi said something to the tune of, you know,
- 18:11Speaker 2: maybe he could be our first phone call if they
- 18:14Speaker 2: needed to make some moves in the quarterback room anytime
- 18:18Speaker 2: in the future. So I don't know. I do remember
- 18:21Speaker 2: Cooper Rush as a cowboy, made a spot start against
- 18:25Speaker 2: the Vikings a handful of years ago and actually ended
- 18:28Speaker 2: up beating the Vikings. So some Vikings fans out there
- 18:31Speaker 2: may remember that name. But I mean, that's always smart
- 18:35Speaker 2: and good whenever you can bring in some vets and
- 18:38Speaker 2: get basically a free look to be like all right, hey,
- 18:41Speaker 2: you're here today, So what's it like. They can learn
- 18:45Speaker 2: just as much whether they like him or didn't like him,
- 18:48Speaker 2: so it's always valuable to gain that information.
- 18:52Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I question bringing in another quarterback. And
- 18:57Speaker 1: I don't know that Cooper Rush will make it past
- 19:01Speaker 1: these rookie mini camps.
- 19:03Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't get signed, so right, but I.
- 19:07Speaker 1: Don't know unless they've lost faith in Max Brosmer completely
- 19:12Speaker 1: and they need that practice squad guy. Because I'm predicting,
- 19:16Speaker 1: and I think most people are in this boat. Kyler
- 19:20Speaker 1: Murray and JJ McCarthy will battle for that starting role.
- 19:25Speaker 1: I think it'll be a pretty easy battle. Disagree now,
- 19:30Speaker 1: but we'll see. And then I think Carson Wentz will
- 19:33Speaker 1: be that emergency third string guy, and then whoever else
- 19:39Speaker 1: they have will be a practice squad.
- 19:41Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, guy. Yeah, I don't think bringing Cooper Rush
- 19:44Speaker 2: in for this mini camp was really going to turn
- 19:47Speaker 2: into anything other than like get to know you KOs
- 19:52Speaker 2: kind of. He had answered questions earlier in that press
- 19:55Speaker 2: conference about Juwan Jennings and how he had visited a
- 19:59Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, and you know that visit ended
- 20:02Speaker 2: without a contract, right then, But he said the Jennings
- 20:05Speaker 2: visit was really just getting to know each other and
- 20:08Speaker 2: how could you know this relationship work and you know,
- 20:13Speaker 2: how could this be beneficial to everybody? And ultimately Jennings
- 20:16Speaker 2: did come back and sign, but he said this Cooper Rush,
- 20:19Speaker 2: you know, mini camp tryout was similar, like almost like
- 20:23Speaker 2: a free agent visit, like, hey, come in, run around
- 20:27Speaker 2: on the field a little bit, put the helmet on, call,
- 20:31Speaker 2: a few plays in the huddle, and kind of get
- 20:33Speaker 2: to know each other. So I would think, unless Cooper
- 20:37Speaker 2: Rush ends up signing somewhere else, I would almost think
- 20:40Speaker 2: if the Vikings have one or two injuries at quarterback
- 20:44Speaker 2: this season, it wouldn't be shocking to see Cooper Rush
- 20:48Speaker 2: come back to the team because there were other guys.
- 20:52Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Desmond Ritter, who was on the team
- 20:55Speaker 2: a couple of times last season, I'm pretty sure he
- 20:59Speaker 2: was a veil because the Packers had him, but they
- 21:02Speaker 2: just released him after signing somebody else. So it's something
- 21:06Speaker 2: to at least get in the building because now they
- 21:08Speaker 2: know each other a little bit.
- 21:10Speaker 1: Yeah, So it'll be interesting to see what happens with that.
- 21:13Speaker 1: And it's always interesting to see how the dust settles
- 21:17Speaker 1: from the draft and free agency and who sticks and
- 21:19Speaker 1: who doesn't. And I'm not predicting any like super crazy
- 21:26Speaker 1: departures or additions from now on, but I guess I
- 21:30Speaker 1: could be surprised.
- 21:31Speaker 2: That's true. I feel like we're probably done with any moves,
- 21:37Speaker 2: any big moves. I think if you were to predict
- 21:39Speaker 2: any big moves. Obviously there's still at least publicly the
- 21:42Speaker 2: question mark about Harrison Smith. So it would be big
- 21:47Speaker 2: either way if he announced all right, yeah I'm done,
- 21:51Speaker 2: or obviously be huge if if the team announced like
- 21:54Speaker 2: all right, yeah, hey, we're signing him back. I predict
- 21:56Speaker 2: if he does sign back, it's just gonna be a random,
- 21:59Speaker 2: like one o'clock in the afternoon tweet where the Bikings
- 22:02Speaker 2: are like, hey, Harry's back, like you know, just out
- 22:05Speaker 2: of nowhere, especially now when the team doesn't have you know,
- 22:11Speaker 2: they haven't hired a full time GM yet, so they're
- 22:14Speaker 2: big moves for setting up the roster this season are
- 22:18Speaker 2: probably done as far as adding people.
- 22:20Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's really just kind of sit and wait
- 22:24Speaker 1: and keep your ear to the ground at all the
- 22:27Speaker 1: training camp news coming out, rookie minting camp, OTAs, all
- 22:33Speaker 1: that stuff, and just you know, you follow the people
- 22:35Speaker 1: that are there, and they're tweeting stuff out and writing
- 22:38Speaker 1: articles and whatnot, and you're listening to the press conferences
- 22:42Speaker 1: from the coaches and players, and you're just waiting with
- 22:46Speaker 1: anticipation for September to roll around.
- 22:49Speaker 2: Yeah, because now we are entering the time of year,
- 22:52Speaker 2: at least as far as the NFL is concerned, where
- 22:56Speaker 2: you don't want to hear names of your favorite teams
- 23:00Speaker 2: players in the news because while it could be something
- 23:03Speaker 2: exciting like hey, we locked, you know, a new contract
- 23:06Speaker 2: for this big name player, more likely it's going to
- 23:10Speaker 2: be something like, hey, this this guy got arrested again,
- 23:14Speaker 2: or you.
- 23:14Speaker 1: Know, this guy's sleep at the wheel of their car
- 23:17Speaker 1: in the middle of the interstate at three in the morning. Weird.
- 23:20Speaker 2: I wonder what you're talking about. But yeah, this is
- 23:22Speaker 2: definitely the time where we don't want to hear about
- 23:25Speaker 2: those guys. So if Jordan Addison can make it between
- 23:28Speaker 2: now and what is it the end of July mid
- 23:31Speaker 2: July when training camp starts.
- 23:34Speaker 1: Just to handcuff him to Justin Jefferson, they can play video.
- 23:38Speaker 2: Hire him a babysitter. Kyler Murray likes playing video games.
- 23:42Speaker 2: Let's get that sit in the basement and play video
- 23:45Speaker 2: games and work actual yeah. Yeah, yeah, hopefully we don't
- 23:50Speaker 2: hear too many. Hopefully we get more stories like Adrian
- 23:53Speaker 2: Peterson joining the Ring of Honor.
- 23:56Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we should say that for the end. Okay,
- 23:59Speaker 1: I nuck in a little segment here since it's happening
- 24:03Speaker 1: this week. The schedule comes out on Thursday, and I
- 24:07Speaker 1: thought maybe, since you know, we're not gonna have a
- 24:10Speaker 1: ton of stuff to talk about, we could talk a
- 24:13Speaker 1: little bit about opponents, our predictions for the schedule that
- 24:18Speaker 1: comes out. Because by the time we're back here next week,
- 24:21Speaker 1: we will know the Vikings schedule top to bottom, front
- 24:24Speaker 1: and back, yep, and we will we'll be able to
- 24:28Speaker 1: dissect the actual you know, week one through week eighteen,
- 24:34Speaker 1: all of that. But we know the Vikings opponents.
- 24:37Speaker 2: If they're home and away. We don't know times, we
- 24:40Speaker 2: don't know primetime, we don't know if maybe an away
- 24:44Speaker 2: game is going to be in Paris or something like that.
- 24:47Speaker 2: So but we can talk about the actual opponents.
- 24:50Speaker 1: Yeah. So, first of all, let's just note that there
- 24:53Speaker 1: are more home games than away games. That's always a
- 24:55Speaker 1: good thing. I would venture to guess that the league
- 25:00Speaker 1: will send the Vikings somewhere for one of those home
- 25:03Speaker 1: games outside of Minnesota.
- 25:06Speaker 2: Potentially, that's always a good bet, especially in the NFL now,
- 25:11Speaker 2: but I almost I would guess like they might leave
- 25:16Speaker 2: them alone. This year.
- 25:17Speaker 1: They did do the two week back to back games
- 25:21Speaker 1: in two different countries albeit last season, one in Ireland
- 25:25Speaker 1: and then one in England. So granted they're basically I
- 25:30Speaker 1: mean part of the United Kingdom, but they still there's
- 25:32Speaker 1: some travel and they weren't in the same hotel probably
- 25:35Speaker 1: for the whole trip.
- 25:37Speaker 2: Actually, Brian O'Neil was on right tackled. Brian O'Neil was
- 25:41Speaker 2: on another podcast, I forget which podcast it was, I'll
- 25:45Speaker 2: we can probably find it and link it below recently,
- 25:49Speaker 2: and they asked him how was that experience being you know,
- 25:54Speaker 2: away from America for I think they were gone. Their
- 25:58Speaker 2: trip was like ten or eleven straight days, and O'Neill
- 26:03Speaker 2: he kind of gave a company line answer where it was,
- 26:05Speaker 2: you know, very nice to the NFL, but also he
- 26:10Speaker 2: was honest when he said, like it was good to
- 26:12Speaker 2: be together and eating every meal and spending every minute
- 26:16Speaker 2: with all your teammates and kind of break up, he said,
- 26:19Speaker 2: break up the monotony of the NFL season where your
- 26:22Speaker 2: dad looked a little bit different. But he did say, like,
- 26:25Speaker 2: I like an international game, but I only like one.
- 26:29Speaker 2: You know, two is a long time.
- 26:30Speaker 1: Well, you remember hearing Kevin O'Connell saying after the second one, like,
- 26:34Speaker 1: let's get the heck out of here, Like he was
- 26:36Speaker 1: excited his locker room speech at the end of that
- 26:39Speaker 1: second game, which I think they won. I forget who
- 26:42Speaker 1: they played, but they lost the first one to the
- 26:44Speaker 1: Steelers maybe, and they won the second one against.
- 26:47Speaker 2: The Browns Dylan Gabriel and the Browns.
- 26:49Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, he was like, And I could see
- 26:53Speaker 1: the league finding him for saying something like that. I
- 26:56Speaker 1: don't know if they don't yet, I don't know. Anyways, Yeah,
- 26:59Speaker 1: he kfoc was more than ready to get out of there.
- 27:02Speaker 1: So all that to say, will they go international? Who knows?
- 27:07Speaker 1: You could be right, they might leave them alone. Being
- 27:10Speaker 1: that they did the first back to back regular season games,
- 27:18Speaker 1: I think they were the first in NFL history to
- 27:19Speaker 1: do that to they.
- 27:20Speaker 2: Were, so they were the first to do it in
- 27:23Speaker 2: different countries, different countries because two years ago the Jaguars
- 27:28Speaker 2: did it. But they were they played both games in London.
- 27:33Speaker 2: I think they might have been in different stadiums, but
- 27:36Speaker 2: they were still in London for both the games.
- 27:39Speaker 1: You might be right. Well, all I had to say,
- 27:41Speaker 1: I think that'll be an interesting thing to track is
- 27:44Speaker 1: if there is an international game, and I think because
- 27:47Speaker 1: the Vikings have more home games than away games, one
- 27:50Speaker 1: of those home games maybe get snatched up as a
- 27:54Speaker 1: an international game, and they still get treated as the
- 27:57Speaker 1: home team when they travel, but of course course it's
- 28:00Speaker 1: not exactly the same.
- 28:02Speaker 2: So I do think I'm pretty sure. So the full
- 28:05Speaker 2: NFL schedule is going to be released on I believe Thursday, Thursday,
- 28:11Speaker 2: the fourteenth of May, but I'm pretty sure. I've also
- 28:14Speaker 2: seen that the international games, those will be fully announced,
- 28:19Speaker 2: if not beforehand, by Wednesday the thirteenth, so we should
- 28:23Speaker 2: know at least that by then. And I think I've
- 28:27Speaker 2: heard people saying if the Vikings are going to go
- 28:29Speaker 2: international at all, their best chance is as an away
- 28:33Speaker 2: opponent against the New Orleans Saints. Okay, because I don't know,
- 28:39Speaker 2: I don't have the full list in front of me
- 28:41Speaker 2: of all the announced international home teams, because I think
- 28:44Speaker 2: they've they've announced those already.
- 28:46Speaker 1: Oh really, I guess I didn't know.
- 28:48Speaker 2: I think so, I'm pretty sure I might be wrong,
- 28:50Speaker 2: but please double check that out. I'm goog so I
- 28:53Speaker 2: think if the Vikings are going international at all, it
- 28:56Speaker 2: will be as an away team, and I think the
- 29:00Speaker 2: Saints are playing in Paris. So yeah, you've got a
- 29:04Speaker 2: graphic pulled up and it looks like they have at
- 29:06Speaker 2: least the home teams announced.
- 29:08Speaker 1: Yep, so you're right. The Vikings will not have a
- 29:11Speaker 1: home appearance internationally. They're playing the NFL is playing games
- 29:17Speaker 1: in London, Paris, Munich, Madrid, Melbourne, Rio and Mexico City.
- 29:24Speaker 1: They're playing three games in London, two of them by
- 29:26Speaker 1: the Jaguars as the home team, so I would assume
- 29:31Speaker 1: those will be back to back weeks like the Vikings did,
- 29:34Speaker 1: perhaps in the two different.
- 29:37Speaker 2: Because there's Tottenham Hotspur and then there's Wembley that they
- 29:41Speaker 2: play in London, and I'm assuming, well, I think the
- 29:46Speaker 2: Tottenham isn't London, it's Tottenham, but yeah, either way, it's
- 29:50Speaker 2: all very close.
- 29:51Speaker 1: So there have been two games that have already been
- 29:54Speaker 1: announced with both opponents. Baltimore will play Dallas. Dallas is
- 29:59Speaker 1: the home team in Rio and then San Francisco plays
- 30:04Speaker 1: the Rams. The Rams are the home team in Melbourne, Australia,
- 30:09Speaker 1: so the other home teams are We've already talked about
- 30:11Speaker 1: the Jaguars, the Commanders, the forty nine Ers, the Saints,
- 30:14Speaker 1: the Lions, and the Falcons. So the Vikings won't be
- 30:20Speaker 1: a home team. So that means there are nine games
- 30:23Speaker 1: at us Bank Stadium. You know what that means. We
- 30:25Speaker 1: got to go to a game. Yeah, we gotta get
- 30:28Speaker 1: up there.
- 30:28Speaker 2: We've attended the most recent game at us Bank, the
- 30:33Speaker 2: end of the season Vikings Packers game where the Vikings won.
- 30:37Speaker 2: Now the Packers were playing like third stringers at best, yes,
- 30:42Speaker 2: but they still won. We can say that we've attended
- 30:44Speaker 2: a regular season Vikings Packers game when the Vikings won,
- 30:48Speaker 2: So that's always fun to say. But yeah, just looking
- 30:52Speaker 2: over really quick, just to put one more final note
- 30:55Speaker 2: on international games. I do think it looks like the
- 30:58Speaker 2: only opponent the Vikings have that have been announced for
- 31:04Speaker 2: the international Games are the Saints. So it's either Paris
- 31:07Speaker 2: or nothing. And I wouldn't be shocked if the Vikings
- 31:13Speaker 2: got announced to go to Paris, but I would be surprised,
- 31:16Speaker 2: like just because they did a back to back last year, like,
- 31:20Speaker 2: let them get one year where they don't have to
- 31:22Speaker 2: do that.
- 31:22Speaker 1: But either way, okay, So with the rest of the schedule,
- 31:26Speaker 1: as it's gonna come out on Thursday, let's make a
- 31:29Speaker 1: couple of predictions. Let's predict Week one matchup just for
- 31:35Speaker 1: fun sure, and then let's predict how do I want
- 31:42Speaker 1: to do this? I have a few thoughts that are
- 31:44Speaker 1: swirling in my head. Let's do that. First, Let's predict
- 31:48Speaker 1: the week one matchup and then let my thoughts percolate
- 31:51Speaker 1: for a minute. What do you think Week one matchup
- 31:54Speaker 1: is for the Vikings?
- 31:55Speaker 2: So for the last I mean probably what has it
- 31:58Speaker 2: been the last decade or so, the NFL has really
- 32:01Speaker 2: liked front loading team's schedules with divisional opponents and backloading
- 32:08Speaker 2: the schedules with divisional opponents and the Vikings. In twenty
- 32:13Speaker 2: twenty five last year, where did they start off? They
- 32:16Speaker 2: started off in Chicago and then they hosted the Packers. Crap,
- 32:23Speaker 2: this is another AI.
- 32:26Speaker 1: Let me go, we went to the Packers game at
- 32:28Speaker 1: the end of the season. This is great.
- 32:34Speaker 2: Okay, So week one they visited Chicago and then they
- 32:38Speaker 2: hosted the Falcons, And I was trying to think, Yeah,
- 32:41Speaker 2: they didn't have another division game for a while until
- 32:44Speaker 2: Week nine at Detroit. So all that to say, I'm
- 32:49Speaker 2: predicting Week one to be hosting Green Bay or hosting
- 32:59Speaker 2: the Line. I think it'll be a divisional opponent, probably
- 33:02Speaker 2: not Chicago because it was Chicago Week one last year
- 33:05Speaker 2: and it was also away last year. So overall, I
- 33:10Speaker 2: think the Vikings they played in Chicago and in Green
- 33:15Speaker 2: Bay pretty early on in the season when the weather
- 33:18Speaker 2: was still warm. I'm predicting it to be flipped this year.
- 33:21Speaker 2: They're going to play in Chicago and in green Bay
- 33:25Speaker 2: late in the season when it's cold, which is cool,
- 33:27Speaker 2: like I like outdoor games. But that's kind of my
- 33:31Speaker 2: overarching prediction. So if I have to pick one, I
- 33:34Speaker 2: think it'll be let's just say they will host the
- 33:37Speaker 2: Packers week one, Okay.
- 33:39Speaker 1: So that answers my second question then, because I was
- 33:42Speaker 1: going to say when is the first home game, and
- 33:44Speaker 1: so you're thinking Week one is the first home game
- 33:47Speaker 1: and it's against the Packers. I think you said they
- 33:53Speaker 1: were on the road at Chicago last year to start
- 33:56Speaker 1: the season.
- 33:56Speaker 2: That was JJ's breakouts. You know, he went off, it's
- 34:00Speaker 2: a player of.
- 34:00Speaker 1: The week he had a great game.
- 34:02Speaker 2: He threw a pick six pretty early on, he had
- 34:05Speaker 2: a great fourth quarter.
- 34:06Speaker 1: Yes, I remember that. Now I'm going to predict maybe
- 34:11Speaker 1: that Week one isn't a home game, and I'm going
- 34:16Speaker 1: to think that the Vikings are going to go on
- 34:17Speaker 1: the road somewhere kind of far away and maybe like
- 34:23Speaker 1: a more challenging opponent, just to you know, see what
- 34:28Speaker 1: happens if.
- 34:28Speaker 2: Nothing says it has to be Week one divisional opponent,
- 34:31Speaker 2: just early season dision.
- 34:33Speaker 1: So I'm going to say the Vikings go to New
- 34:36Speaker 1: England and take on the team that was in the
- 34:38Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year, Drake May And yeah, I think
- 34:43Speaker 1: that's Week one away. And then Week two I'll say
- 34:47Speaker 1: is home against the Lions, because I'll go opposite you.
- 34:51Speaker 1: You said Packers are Lions. You said Packers week one,
- 34:55Speaker 1: I'll say Lions week two.
- 34:57Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's another thing too. The Vikings hosted the
- 35:00Speaker 2: Lions on was it Christmas Day last year? Yep, so
- 35:06Speaker 2: late in the season. It was like their second or
- 35:08Speaker 2: third to last game. So that would tell me, hey,
- 35:10Speaker 2: they're just gonna switch it up. So if they're going
- 35:12Speaker 2: to host the Lions, it'll be earlier in the season.
- 35:15Speaker 1: So, I mean, I'm a high school coach, and that's
- 35:17Speaker 1: kind of how high school games work. Like you typically
- 35:21Speaker 1: do a home and away series with your opponents and
- 35:24Speaker 1: your conference, and this year it'll be you know, this way,
- 35:28Speaker 1: it'll be ABC, and the next year we'll go CBA.
- 35:31Speaker 1: You know, we'll just kind of flip flop it, and
- 35:34Speaker 1: that way it keeps things kind of on a rotation.
- 35:37Speaker 1: It's easy to plan and schedule, but it's also different
- 35:39Speaker 1: and it's not the same exact thing every single year.
- 35:42Speaker 1: So all right, one more just like really off the
- 35:48Speaker 1: wall prediction surprise win and surprise loss on the Viking schedule.
- 35:57Speaker 1: Who are those opponents? Just we we'll do our official
- 36:00Speaker 1: pick him later on, you can definitely change our answers.
- 36:03Speaker 2: But so I think there's gonna be and this is
- 36:09Speaker 2: just my personal opinion. I think a surprise win is
- 36:13Speaker 2: going to be the the home game against the Buffalo Bills.
- 36:19Speaker 2: The Vikings, justin Jefferson has always weirdly played well against
- 36:25Speaker 2: the Bills. We have that magical, unbelievable game from was
- 36:31Speaker 2: it four years ago? Three four years ago? The ketch
- 36:37Speaker 2: of his life? And then Eric Kendricks got recovered a
- 36:41Speaker 2: fumble in the end zone because they were so close
- 36:43Speaker 2: to the end zone that Josh Allen couldn't even kneel
- 36:45Speaker 2: the ball. I'm just gonna say to me, that'll be
- 36:48Speaker 2: a surprise win. But I think you know, any of
- 36:51Speaker 2: these games, they could win or lose any of these games.
- 36:53Speaker 2: That's why they play them.
- 36:54Speaker 1: You know, there's always just we're just like this is
- 36:58Speaker 1: like Calshi predictions right now or just throwing stuff at
- 37:02Speaker 1: the wall.
- 37:02Speaker 2: Yep. And I'll say a surprise loss, it'll be an
- 37:05Speaker 2: away game against the Jets. Oh yeah, just because that
- 37:09Speaker 2: would be probably, looking at the schedule, the most surprising
- 37:13Speaker 2: loss that they could have. And I mean any team
- 37:16Speaker 2: can beat any team. Every Sunday prop.
- 37:18Speaker 1: Bet on that game. Is Geno Smith the quarterback for
- 37:22Speaker 1: the Jets when the Vikings play the Jets.
- 37:24Speaker 2: And that's a good question because all we know is
- 37:26Speaker 2: home and away. We don't know that could be Week one,
- 37:28Speaker 2: They could be in New York or East Rutherford, New
- 37:32Speaker 2: Jersey week one. It's close to your prediction going to
- 37:36Speaker 2: New England week one, so.
- 37:37Speaker 1: It's not pretty much New York, it's New Jersey.
- 37:41Speaker 2: I'll do a lot of things. No, that's a good question.
- 37:47Speaker 2: Because do you know, off the top of your head,
- 37:49Speaker 2: I don't who their QB two is.
- 37:51Speaker 1: I know Justin Fields was there for a while.
- 37:53Speaker 2: But he's gone. He's in Kansas City. He may be
- 37:56Speaker 2: the week one starter for the Chiefs, depending on how
- 38:00Speaker 2: homes Meeks recovery goes.
- 38:02Speaker 1: I don't know that there's any other notable names in
- 38:05Speaker 1: New York. And I think I heard what's his name
- 38:09Speaker 1: their new coach say like, oh, yeah, Geno's the guy.
- 38:12Speaker 1: He's my guy.
- 38:13Speaker 2: They traded for him.
- 38:14Speaker 1: So I don't know, but that'll be a really interesting thing,
- 38:18Speaker 1: right especially if the Vikings play the Jets, you know,
- 38:20Speaker 1: middle or end of the season. Is that still true?
- 38:23Speaker 1: Is Geno still the starter or has that kind of
- 38:28Speaker 1: shifted and changed? And truth be told, I'm not really
- 38:31Speaker 1: trying to make fun of Jets fins right now. I
- 38:34Speaker 1: am a little bit, but like the Vikings could be
- 38:37Speaker 1: in a very similar spot where the Vikings start one
- 38:39Speaker 1: of the two guys we think is going to be
- 38:41Speaker 1: the starter, and then we get halfway into the season
- 38:43Speaker 1: and just like last year, Carson Wentz is you know
- 38:48Speaker 1: a rag doll out there and getting limbs torn off
- 38:50Speaker 1: and then they're like all right, Well, JJ just try
- 38:54Speaker 1: to not mess up, I guess.
- 38:56Speaker 2: So I don't want to derail too much. And we're
- 38:59Speaker 2: not Jets Yet's podcast, but they are going all in
- 39:02Speaker 2: on Geno Smith here. So it looks like and I
- 39:06Speaker 2: don't know what the final depth chart's gonna look like
- 39:08Speaker 2: for them, but right now it seems like QB one
- 39:11Speaker 2: Geno Smith and then QB two Caid Club Nick. I've
- 39:18Speaker 2: never heard of this dude. Nope, QB three Brady Cook again,
- 39:25Speaker 2: never heard of this dude. And then QB four Bailey Zappi,
- 39:28Speaker 2: who started a few games for the Patriots a few
- 39:31Speaker 2: years ago, and he's bounced around. So they're not there's
- 39:34Speaker 2: no obvious plan after Geno Smith. It's just some guys
- 39:40Speaker 2: that can throw the ball. So and and watch I
- 39:44Speaker 2: say that. And this time next year, the reigning NFL
- 39:47Speaker 2: MVP is going to be Caid Club Nick and everybody's
- 39:50Speaker 2: gonna have his jersey and I'm gonna.
- 39:53Speaker 1: Be eating Crow Sam Darnold of.
- 39:58Speaker 2: But yeah, the I'd say, just looking at that, it's
- 40:03Speaker 2: pretty good odds that Gino Smith is going to be
- 40:05Speaker 2: the starter for barring injury, for the Jets all of
- 40:09Speaker 2: next year.
- 40:10Speaker 1: So there you go, all right, Well, so your surprise
- 40:15Speaker 1: loss was the Jets, right, and your surprise win was
- 40:19Speaker 1: home game against the Bills, both AFC East opponents. Interesting, Okay,
- 40:24Speaker 1: my surprise loss. I'm gonna start with the loss because
- 40:30Speaker 1: I like to finish on the good news here. Surprise
- 40:33Speaker 1: loss is going to come against the Dolphins at home.
- 40:38Speaker 1: The Dolphins right now, I think are basically the armpit
- 40:43Speaker 1: of the league. They like totally cleaned house. Their roster
- 40:47Speaker 1: is like pennies compared to most other rosters in the
- 40:51Speaker 1: league right now, and I think they're kind of the
- 40:55Speaker 1: laughingstock of the league. They don't look good and I
- 40:59Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna be a good team. But I
- 41:01Speaker 1: think the Vikings in my lifetime have almost always had
- 41:06Speaker 1: that one game against that one team that they should
- 41:08Speaker 1: beat and they didn't. And it's a home game. I'm predicting,
- 41:13Speaker 1: and this will all change a week from now. Is
- 41:15Speaker 1: everything I'm about to say won't official.
- 41:18Speaker 2: Yeah, pick them until like late July, But this is just.
- 41:22Speaker 1: The art of speculation. Everything you say could be completely
- 41:25Speaker 1: wrong and flipped on its head tomorrow. But I think
- 41:29Speaker 1: that game will be somewhere in the middle of the season.
- 41:31Speaker 1: The injuries will start to pile up for the Vikings
- 41:34Speaker 1: and it'll be a true gut punch like reality check
- 41:38Speaker 1: game for the Vikings. Like, guys, we just lost to
- 41:41Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Yeah, that's bad. That's like, that's like losing
- 41:44Speaker 1: to the Browns. You just don't. You don't lose to
- 41:46Speaker 1: the Browns.
- 41:47Speaker 2: Which even the twenty twenty five Vikings didn't lose to
- 41:50Speaker 2: the Browns.
- 41:50Speaker 1: So correct. So that's my surprise loss. Now. I hope
- 41:55Speaker 1: their season is good, but there's still that you know
- 42:01Speaker 1: they're they're going to lose some games.
- 42:03Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they won't go on this year.
- 42:05Speaker 1: I think the surprise victory, I'm just to say it
- 42:07Speaker 1: right now. I think it's that week one away game
- 42:11Speaker 1: that I predicted against the Patriots.
- 42:13Speaker 2: What do you have against the Patriots?
- 42:14Speaker 1: Man, Well, I don't care if they were in the
- 42:16Speaker 1: Super Bowl or not. I think Mike Rabel's in trouble
- 42:18Speaker 1: right now. I don't know if they're going to keep
- 42:21Speaker 1: him around.
- 42:22Speaker 2: Maybe they will, I will say, I think if they
- 42:25Speaker 2: were gonna him, that would have already happened. He missed
- 42:29Speaker 2: a day of the draft. The head coach of an
- 42:32Speaker 2: NFL as was away from the team during the draft.
- 42:35Speaker 1: That is kind of crazy's wild. He's going to show
- 42:37Speaker 1: up and be like, who are you well?
- 42:39Speaker 2: And he'd like when he had like a public appearance,
- 42:43Speaker 2: maybe draft related, after the draft was over, and when
- 42:46Speaker 2: he was walking in it was like at an actual
- 42:49Speaker 2: event with people there. He got like a standing ovation
- 42:52Speaker 2: as he was walking in, like dude, where.
- 42:57Speaker 1: Are we well? Where are we as a society? Or
- 43:00Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's anyways. I don't know. I think maybe
- 43:04Speaker 1: some of the drama surrounding that, and there's always that
- 43:07Speaker 1: super Bowl hangover and I know they lost the super Bowl.
- 43:10Speaker 1: I know the Patriots didn't win, but that super Bowl
- 43:14Speaker 1: hangover is real, and I don't know, we've seen it
- 43:19Speaker 1: all the time, right These teams, especially maybe even teams
- 43:23Speaker 1: that lost the super Bowl and then come back thinking
- 43:26Speaker 1: they're gonna run the table and win it all. The
- 43:28Speaker 1: next year, they come in with such high expectations and
- 43:32Speaker 1: it's super Bowl or bust, and then they come in
- 43:36Speaker 1: Week one and they just lay a big fat egg.
- 43:38Speaker 1: And that's where I think the Vikings have this opportunity,
- 43:41Speaker 1: like nobody's really looking at us, like we're not expected
- 43:45Speaker 1: to win the division. Probably we have this really interesting
- 43:49Speaker 1: quarterback battle. We do have some good talent on our
- 43:53Speaker 1: team and we've made some good moves. But the defense
- 43:56Speaker 1: will be interesting with some pretty significant turnover there. The
- 43:59Speaker 1: off defensive line has seen a lot of turnover there.
- 44:05Speaker 1: The Vikings will probably enter that game if it's Week one, yeah,
- 44:10Speaker 1: as underdogs, and I don't know, I like the Vikings
- 44:13Speaker 1: chances in that.
- 44:14Speaker 2: That'd be fun. We have seen a situation where a
- 44:17Speaker 2: high profile person connected to the team is suddenly wrapped
- 44:24Speaker 2: up in extramarital fair or situation, and after high expectations,
- 44:32Speaker 2: it turns out to be terrible. In the twenty ten Vikings,
- 44:36Speaker 2: remember Brett Farv, I think Paul Allen always jokes like, hey,
- 44:40Speaker 2: if snapchat had existed in twenty ten, the Vikings would
- 44:44Speaker 2: have won.
- 44:44Speaker 1: The Super Bowl.
- 44:45Speaker 2: Gosh, I mean Brett Farv had all that stuff. I
- 44:48Speaker 2: think Ben Leeber has even said in the past like yeah,
- 44:51Speaker 2: it was a distraction, like more than you think it
- 44:53Speaker 2: would have been. And the Vikings twenty ten season derailed
- 44:57Speaker 2: after being one game away from the the super Bowl
- 45:01Speaker 2: the year before. So there's not nothing to it. I mean,
- 45:04Speaker 2: anytime you're head coach, this is a big deal, Like yeah, yeah,
- 45:10Speaker 2: and it seems like everything they try to do is
- 45:13Speaker 2: to try to move on from it. But like ESPN
- 45:15Speaker 2: is not gonna let this go, and like people aren't
- 45:18Speaker 2: gonna let this go. The jokes are gonna keep coming,
- 45:20Speaker 2: and it could be a looming cloud over that organization
- 45:24Speaker 2: at least this coming season. So yeah, you're probably not wrong.
- 45:29Speaker 1: Well, all of it is speculation. We'll see what happens.
- 45:32Speaker 1: Everything we just said will probably not even be correct
- 45:36Speaker 1: a week from now. It's okay, but it is fun
- 45:38Speaker 1: to talk about. Man. I'm excited to see what the
- 45:40Speaker 1: schedule is like, and I'm excited to put our picks
- 45:43Speaker 1: in for a fourth season. Yeah on the podcast, that'll
- 45:46Speaker 1: be fun. Track wins and losses and.
- 45:51Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be good real quick. Just to kind
- 45:54Speaker 2: of wrap up the schedule and upcoming season thoughts, at
- 45:57Speaker 2: least for this episode, I want to ask you things
- 46:00Speaker 2: sit right now, early May, so we don't even know
- 46:03Speaker 2: dates and times of these games, how do you think
- 46:08Speaker 2: the NFC North as far as like outside predictions will
- 46:13Speaker 2: shake out, Like who do you think ESPN is going
- 46:15Speaker 2: to say, like, Okay, this team should win it, second, third, fourth,
- 46:20Speaker 2: Like we're biased we're going to say, yeah, I think
- 46:23Speaker 2: the Vikings could win the division. But what do you
- 46:25Speaker 2: think the perception among you know, the talking heads, the
- 46:29Speaker 2: quote unquote experts will be for the NFC North ranking
- 46:33Speaker 2: one to four.
- 46:34Speaker 1: I think the media always has a bias towards the Packers,
- 46:39Speaker 1: and I think right now the Bears are the hot
- 46:42Speaker 1: team as well, so I think they're the pundits will
- 46:48Speaker 1: say Packers Bears, it's going to be a toss up.
- 46:51Speaker 1: Either one of them could win the NFC North, And
- 46:53Speaker 1: then I think they'll say it's really a toss up
- 46:57Speaker 1: at the bottom half. It could be the Viking, it
- 47:00Speaker 1: could be the Lions. It could and I think they
- 47:03Speaker 1: might say this could be the division that gets three
- 47:06Speaker 1: teams into the playoffs. It's happened before. It was close,
- 47:11Speaker 1: and it was really close, and it's been close for
- 47:15Speaker 1: the last couple of years. This division is a tough division,
- 47:19Speaker 1: and so I wouldn't be surprised if if that's kind
- 47:23Speaker 1: of how they shake out. I think it's Packers Bears
- 47:26Speaker 1: up top. I think it's Vikings Lions down below, and
- 47:32Speaker 1: I don't know. Steven A. Smith would probably say one thing,
- 47:36Speaker 1: and yeah, Dan Patrick would say another. But I think
- 47:41Speaker 1: that's where most people are going to be in terms
- 47:44Speaker 1: of that, and then it'll be interesting to see too,
- 47:47Speaker 1: Like you know, who the playoff contenders are, because I
- 47:51Speaker 1: think all four teams legitimately could be in contention for
- 47:55Speaker 1: the playoffs. It's just going to come down to playing
- 48:01Speaker 1: good football down the stretch and probably winning those divisional
- 48:04Speaker 1: games at the end of the season that we know
- 48:06Speaker 1: they're going to schedule.
- 48:07Speaker 2: Yeah, I really think like you, I think this is
- 48:11Speaker 2: going to be another year where the NFC North is
- 48:14Speaker 2: going to be very competitive within the division. And again,
- 48:18Speaker 2: I agree with you. The pundits are going to say,
- 48:21Speaker 2: like Bears, they're going to win it. Yep, they'll get
- 48:24Speaker 2: some heat from the Packers, but the Bears are going
- 48:27Speaker 2: to win it. And then they're going to say Packers
- 48:30Speaker 2: number two. And then I think a lot of people
- 48:33Speaker 2: are going to discredit the Vikings because of the state
- 48:36Speaker 2: of their QB one situation, at least the way the
- 48:40Speaker 2: public views it right now. So I think most people
- 48:43Speaker 2: are going to say like Bears, Packers, Lions, Vikings, and
- 48:46Speaker 2: I think there is almost an equal shot of every
- 48:50Speaker 2: other combination happening. I think any of these teams could
- 48:54Speaker 2: win the division. I think the Vikings. I'm still a
- 48:58Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy believer, and I think if he wins this
- 49:01Speaker 2: job out of camp, that will say a whole heck
- 49:04Speaker 2: of a lot, because you know, it's his biggest challenge
- 49:08Speaker 2: in the NFL so far, competing with a guy who's
- 49:11Speaker 2: won Rookie of the Year and multiple Pro Bowl appearances
- 49:14Speaker 2: and was you know, signed a one hundred plus million
- 49:18Speaker 2: dollar contract at one point Like this is JJ McCarthy's like,
- 49:22Speaker 2: gut check, like do it?
- 49:24Speaker 1: So?
- 49:24Speaker 2: I think whoever wins QB one job is it's going
- 49:28Speaker 2: to be good for the team. I think the Vikings
- 49:30Speaker 2: are going to be better than a lot of people
- 49:32Speaker 2: will think they'll.
- 49:33Speaker 1: Be this year. Yeah, and I don't disagree with you
- 49:35Speaker 1: just because I think everyone else would say Packers and
- 49:39Speaker 1: Bears up at the top. I wouldn't be surprised that
- 49:41Speaker 1: the Vikings sneak their way into second place or maybe
- 49:45Speaker 1: even first place. And it could be one of those
- 49:46Speaker 1: years where you know, the division winner has been a thirteen,
- 49:51Speaker 1: fourteen to fifteen win team. It could be one of
- 49:53Speaker 1: those years where the division winner is a ten win team.
- 49:56Speaker 2: Oh, I was going to say the opposite. I think
- 49:58Speaker 2: there could be another fourteen win team out of this division, but.
- 50:02Speaker 1: We've never Like in the NFC South, for example, I
- 50:05Speaker 1: think I I think I texted you and maybe even
- 50:07Speaker 1: talked about it on the show last year, Like it
- 50:10Speaker 1: just seemed like nobody wanted to win the NFC South.
- 50:12Speaker 1: It's like everybody was kind of right there at the
- 50:15Speaker 1: same the Saints and the Bucks and whoever else. I
- 50:20Speaker 1: think they were at the top of the race at
- 50:22Speaker 1: that point. But like, I could see this division being
- 50:25Speaker 1: something like that too. Like I don't think the Bears
- 50:27Speaker 1: are the Bears. To me, the Bears aren't super Bowl
- 50:32Speaker 1: contenders right now. I think they've got some really good pieces,
- 50:36Speaker 1: but I think Ben Johnson still has a lot of
- 50:38Speaker 1: work to do to figure out how to be a
- 50:41Speaker 1: head coach in the league and how to structure a
- 50:45Speaker 1: roster and all that. I think the Packers are kind
- 50:49Speaker 1: of flimsy, I don't. I think Jordan Love is a
- 50:52Speaker 1: talented quarterback, but I don't think he's a super Bowl
- 50:55Speaker 1: caliber quarterback like they're used to having in game day.
- 50:59Speaker 1: And honestly, I don't know much about their roster besides
- 51:01Speaker 1: that I know their wide receiving corps was super shaky
- 51:06Speaker 1: last year, and they basically went through like seven or
- 51:10Speaker 1: eight different guys because they all kept getting hurt. So
- 51:15Speaker 1: Jordan Love doesn't really matter a whole lot if he
- 51:17Speaker 1: doesn't have anybody to throw to.
- 51:19Speaker 2: They do have at least two really good tight ends too,
- 51:23Speaker 2: and their offensive line has always been at least decent serviceable.
- 51:27Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so, but yeah, I think there's there are
- 51:32Speaker 1: holes in both of those teams. The Lions were not
- 51:35Speaker 1: the same team last year as they had been the
- 51:38Speaker 1: previous couple of years, and we knew that going into
- 51:40Speaker 1: last season. We kind of predicted that, and I think
- 51:42Speaker 1: everybody saw that, Like Dan Campbell is not the same
- 51:46Speaker 1: coach without those two coordinators underneath him, and he was
- 51:50Speaker 1: kind of exposed for that. Now they still have a
- 51:53Speaker 1: talented roster and Jared Goff and Aman Ross, Saint Brown
- 51:59Speaker 1: and Jimmy Gibbs, and like they'll they'll still probably do
- 52:03Speaker 1: some stuff.
- 52:04Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll get some fantasy points and they'll definitely win
- 52:07Speaker 2: some games. But I said it this time last year,
- 52:09Speaker 2: and I'll stand by it. I was kind of proven
- 52:12Speaker 2: right a little bit, but not in the way that
- 52:14Speaker 2: I thought I would be I said last year, like
- 52:17Speaker 2: the Lions are back. They're back to same old Lions,
- 52:20Speaker 2: and they started off better, but their whole season had
- 52:23Speaker 2: the same record the Vikings did, and they lost to
- 52:26Speaker 2: the Vikings both games. I think, I know Christmas in Minnesota,
- 52:31Speaker 2: they lost, and I might be wrong.
- 52:34Speaker 1: I think they Yeah, the Vikings swept the Lions.
- 52:37Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so which you know, it's not like they
- 52:40Speaker 2: blew them out either game. But still I'll still stand
- 52:44Speaker 2: by it. I think the Lions are back to the
- 52:46Speaker 2: same old Lions. Yeah they're not. They're probably a perpetual
- 52:50Speaker 2: eight win team rather than a perpetual three to four
- 52:54Speaker 2: win team like they had been most of our lives.
- 52:56Speaker 2: But they're still not. They're not going to be their
- 52:59Speaker 2: window that they had a few years ago. As closed.
- 53:03Speaker 1: Well schedule comes out on Thursday, we will inevitably talk
- 53:07Speaker 1: about it next week on the next episode and dissect
- 53:11Speaker 1: all of the ins and outs, the week ones, the
- 53:13Speaker 1: week eight's, the bye week, the end of the season, everything,
- 53:18Speaker 1: we'll talk about it.
- 53:19Speaker 2: I think I've told you before we may have an
- 53:23Speaker 2: inn for the Vikings Packers Lambeau game. Yes, I think
- 53:30Speaker 2: you did tell me that, and at a fair price,
- 53:32Speaker 2: I think too, So maybe this year is the year. Maybe.
- 53:36Speaker 2: And that's something that if we were going to plan
- 53:38Speaker 2: a Lambo trip, I feel like we'd have to start
- 53:41Speaker 2: planning that in May rather than unless we've lucked out
- 53:46Speaker 2: a couple of times on end of season tickets where
- 53:50Speaker 2: you know, prices were reasonable. But I think we can
- 53:56Speaker 2: have those conversations here once the schedule comes out. Yeah,
- 54:01Speaker 2: And I think this time next week we could have
- 54:03Speaker 2: already started talking about this.
- 54:05Speaker 1: Yeah, and we might maybe we'll like we could do
- 54:08Speaker 1: it live and we could like start digging into that
- 54:11Speaker 1: a little bit. That could be kind of fun. We'll see,
- 54:14Speaker 1: all right, Well, last thing, I threw you a curveball there,
- 54:19Speaker 1: but it was a good one, it was, and you
- 54:21Speaker 1: hit it. You knocked it out of the park. Oh yeah,
- 54:24Speaker 1: Team effort. Adrian Peterson. He was surprised by the Vikings
- 54:28Speaker 1: today with news that he will be inducted into the
- 54:33Speaker 1: Vikings Ring of Honor at US Bank Stadium. Sounds like
- 54:36Speaker 1: they were kind of sneaky with how they did it,
- 54:37Speaker 1: Like they brought him in just to you know, I
- 54:41Speaker 1: don't know how they pitched it to him exactly, but
- 54:43Speaker 1: just you know, hey, come hang out and blah blah blah,
- 54:46Speaker 1: and then oh yeah, by the way, you're gonna get
- 54:49Speaker 1: a pretty huge honor. It sounds like he was pretty surprised.
- 54:52Speaker 2: Here's how Johnny Randall out of nowhere come come talk
- 54:58Speaker 2: to him for a minute.
- 55:00Speaker 1: So that's a pretty cool thing. He was obviously one
- 55:03Speaker 1: of the most prolific running backs in the history of
- 55:06Speaker 1: the league, not just team history. I think he still
- 55:09Speaker 1: holds some team records in the Russian category. And he
- 55:16Speaker 1: was almost the first player to rush for what was it,
- 55:19Speaker 1: three hundred yards.
- 55:20Speaker 2: To get ninety six what he rushed for and that's
- 55:25Speaker 2: still the standing single game.
- 55:26Speaker 1: Record, yeah, which is absolutely nuts. So thoughts on Adrian
- 55:32Speaker 1: Peterson his career and I don't know, maybe like what's
- 55:37Speaker 1: your favorite moment.
- 55:41Speaker 2: Obviously huge fan. I know he had, you know, the
- 55:45Speaker 2: off the field stuff that isn't it isn't very nice.
- 55:50Speaker 2: It's kind of icky, you know, you don't love to
- 55:54Speaker 2: dwell on that. But he he was drafted in two
- 55:58Speaker 2: thousand and seven. We were sophomores in high school when
- 56:02Speaker 2: he was drafted, so like the perfect age to really
- 56:07Speaker 2: be huge fans of an NFL team. Adrian Peterson instantly
- 56:12Speaker 2: was the best, and we always heard his entire career like, oh,
- 56:16Speaker 2: he's got a bone crushing handshake, and he's just like
- 56:20Speaker 2: this physical specimen that like he you know, he could
- 56:24Speaker 2: break his leg and play in a game the next week,
- 56:26Speaker 2: you know, like he It was just a one of one, truly,
- 56:30Speaker 2: and I think, honestly, deep down a good guy. Now again,
- 56:34Speaker 2: off the field stuff can't take it away, and we
- 56:37Speaker 2: would want wouldn't want to. But I was trying to
- 56:40Speaker 2: look up his his NFL records. I don't know how
- 56:45Speaker 2: many records he has, but I do know that single
- 56:48Speaker 2: game rushing record two ninety six his rookie year, Like
- 56:53Speaker 2: that's less than sixteen games into his career. He puts
- 56:57Speaker 2: up the most ever in one game. And I'm pretty
- 57:00Speaker 2: sure he not only holds the single game record for
- 57:04Speaker 2: most rushing yards, he has the most rushing yards in
- 57:07Speaker 2: a single half because the first half of that game
- 57:10Speaker 2: that he got to ninety six, he ended with like
- 57:13Speaker 2: fifty something yards, So he got two hundred and forty
- 57:17Speaker 2: something yards in one half, which is wild.
- 57:20Speaker 1: That's crazy.
- 57:22Speaker 2: Yeah, He's one that I could sit and watch highlights
- 57:27Speaker 2: of him all day. You asked me, did you ask my.
- 57:31Speaker 1: Favorite Adrian moment and any of the moments. It came
- 57:36Speaker 1: in a game that the Vikings ultimately lost, but it's
- 57:41Speaker 1: the one where he just trucked over and literally ran
- 57:47Speaker 1: over that Pittsburgh Steeler and it wasn't even a rush.
- 57:50Speaker 1: I think he caught a pass, lowered his shoulder and
- 57:53Speaker 1: dropped down. I think it was like William Gay for
- 57:55Speaker 1: the Steelers and like trucked him down to the ground
- 57:59Speaker 1: and then like just ran him over.
- 58:03Speaker 2: That that's probably my favorite. There's a couple other ones.
- 58:05Speaker 2: There's maybe one specific one that you might say, and
- 58:08Speaker 2: if you don't, I'll say it next. But yeah, that's
- 58:11Speaker 2: my favorite single Adrian play.
- 58:14Speaker 1: I think my favorite moment has nothing to do with
- 58:17Speaker 1: I mean, it has something to do with, I guess
- 58:20Speaker 1: his football career, but it had nothing to do with
- 58:23Speaker 1: the NFL. It was a bad lip reading. Did you
- 58:26Speaker 1: ever watch those videos? And it was he was being
- 58:29Speaker 1: interviewed after the three hundred yard game or near three
- 58:33Speaker 1: hundred yard.
- 58:34Speaker 2: Or was it the two thousand yard season where he
- 58:36Speaker 2: was maybe that was it. It was one of those two,
- 58:39Speaker 2: and I think it was Pam Oliver was interviewing him
- 58:42Speaker 2: and then on the bad lip reading video, he said
- 58:46Speaker 2: something like an orange peanut for me, that's my favorite
- 58:50Speaker 2: Adrian Peterson moment, just because it's really funny. I think
- 58:53Speaker 2: in reality he was saying something like he was reacting
- 58:56Speaker 2: to finding out that he was nine yards short. That's
- 58:58Speaker 2: what it was, a single season.
- 59:00Speaker 1: Record, that's exactly.
- 59:02Speaker 2: Yeah, that was funny. The one I thought you were
- 59:06Speaker 2: going to say was that rush he had against the
- 59:08Speaker 2: Browns in the first game of the two thousand and
- 59:10Speaker 2: nine season.
- 59:12Speaker 1: Where he like didn he like truck over like well
- 59:15Speaker 1: and dragged a bunch of people with Now, it's.
- 59:17Speaker 2: The one where he was running and then he like
- 59:20Speaker 2: juked out of one person and literally threw another Brown
- 59:25Speaker 2: out of his way and then rushed for like it
- 59:27Speaker 2: was something like an eighty yard touchdown. It was I
- 59:29Speaker 2: remember that super long touchdown like that, just the pure domination. Also,
- 59:33Speaker 2: that was the first Vikings regular season game with Brett
- 59:36Speaker 2: favre And and Percy Harvin and they definitely won that game,
- 59:40Speaker 2: and that was that was a fun one too.
- 59:42Speaker 1: Yeah, heg of a player go ahead.
- 59:45Speaker 2: Do you remember the commercial? It was like a fantasy
- 59:47Speaker 2: football commercial or no, it was like a commercial about
- 59:52Speaker 2: watching games on your phone. Maybe NFL Network or something
- 59:55Speaker 2: like that, and it was a dude by the pool
- 59:59Speaker 2: and he's like sitting at lounger by the pool and
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: Adrian Peterson like comes in full football uniform, helmet and
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: everything and like lays down in the lounger next to
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: him and says something like are you watching the game again?
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: He's like, you're so silly, Adrian Peterson. And then it
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: snaps and it's his like wife or girlfriend or whatever,
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: and it's like, Nope, not Adrian Peterson. But it's it's
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: the it's about being able to watch games on your phone.
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: That's a fun.
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: Well. Speaking of Adrian Peterson commercials, one of my favorites
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: was that this is ESPN commercial where he's talking about
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: his nickname and I think he's talking with Scott Van
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: Pelt and he's like, yeah, so what's your nickname? And
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, my dad started calling me all day
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: because I just I just kept going all day, you know,
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: I just had this battery and it kept going. So
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: that's how I got my nickname all day. What about you?
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: You've got a nickname? And Scott Van Pelt's like, nah,
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: I don't have a nickname. And someone walks by and goes,
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: what's up, Bedweather, and he's like, I told you that
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: in confidence, Kenny.
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: Yep. So all that commercials on top of him being
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: a great maybe the best ever. I think he's the
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: best running back in the history of the league. But
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: obviously I'm biased. Evan. I've got a I got a
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: little bit of a question for you. Here A p
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: A d he Uh. He played for seven NFL teams?
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: Can you name all seven? Doesn't have to be in order,
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: but maybe an order would be easiest. Can you name
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: all seven? Q?
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: The uh the dial up internet noise, because this is
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: gonna take me a minute.
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: Well, I think you got this all right.
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: Team number one, the Vikings, WHOA, Okay, you got it.
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: I know he played for the Saints. Was that team
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: number two?
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: That was team number two?
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: I also know he played for the Titans at one point.
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: Ok yep, I think I might have gone out of order.
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: I'm not looking me, but I know he played for
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: the Titans at one point.
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: You got Vikings, Saints, Titans.
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: Yes, those are in order, not in order? Not okay,
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: but I've got the teams and we'll just give up
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: on the in order part. I think he played for
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: Seattle he did? Yeah, okay, I think he played for Hmm.
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: Did he play for the Cowboys?
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: He did not.
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: Okay, did he play for Carolina?
- 1:02:35Speaker 2: No, he did not. I did see him at a
- 1:02:38Speaker 2: game in Carolina though. Interesting playing for the Vikings.
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: Of course. He played for seven total teams.
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: Yes, you got four of them.
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: We got four, the Vikings, the Saints, the Seahawks, and
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: who is the other one?
- 1:02:51Speaker 2: I guessed the Titans?
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: Titans.
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: There was one other team that he was probably second
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: most successful with in his career.
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: He played for the Lions. Oh yeah, I know that
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: that's not the team you were referring to, though.
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: He he he only rushed for a thousand plus yards
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: in the season with two teams, one being the Vikings,
- 1:03:12Speaker 2: the other one being.
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: This other team. Okay, I don't think it would be
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: the Falcons. I don't think it was. Can you tell
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: me AFC or NFC.
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: Both of the final two NFC, NFC.
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: Ok it narrows it down a little bit. I don't
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: think it was the Falcons, right, I thought for I
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: was pretty sure he played in Dallas because I know
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: he's from Texas.
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: One of the teams is in Dallas's division.
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: Okay, so in the in the East, the NFC East,
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: the Eagles. Oh yeah, no, okay.
- 1:03:58Speaker 2: You're halfway there.
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: So then it's uh, well, shoot, who else is in
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: that division? I don't even know.
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: They have a different name now, Oh.
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: Yeah, the Commander's slash Redskins, but it was the Redskins
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: when he played for, the one had Skins and the
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: one more the final one he played for in the
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: same season that he played for with the Saints, which
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: was his first season not on the Vikings.
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: He started with the Saints and then finished the season
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: with a different team, also an NFC team. Correct.
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: You might not actually get this. I might not know
- 1:04:43Speaker 2: Southwest teams.
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: Southwest NFC Arizona.
- 1:04:49Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, do you remember that or was it?
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: Just honestly, I don't really remember him playing for most
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: of those other teams. I think I remember him h
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: playing with the Saints, I remember him playing with the Titans,
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: and I remember him briefly with the Lions. I don't
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: think he was with the Lions for very long. Yeah.
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: I think he and Everson Griffin were both on the
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: Lions at the same time, which is interesting, and that
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: was twenty twenty, the COVID year. Interestingly, his first game
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: as a non Viking with the Saints was in Minnesota
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: against the Vikings.
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: I think I do vaguely remember that. It's kind of crazy. Yeah, well, uh,
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: he was a heck of a player. I think it's
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: a well deserved honor, and I don't think any other
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: organization is probably gonna extend anything like that to No,
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: he didn't really contribute anywhere else.
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: Far by, far and above the best with the Vikings.
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: Pro Football Reference has his AV. His second best AV
- 1:05:58Speaker 2: approximate value as a player with a team was thirteen
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: with Washington, and the next his first best was one
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: oh six with Minnesota. And truthfully, anytime you see a
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: guy with one hundred plus approximate value from Pro Football Reference,
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: that's where you're starting to talk Hall of Fame territory,
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: Like that's that's an average of ten a year. If
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: the guy plays ten seasons and that's ten is good.
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: You know, that's Pro Bowl levels. That's a really good player.
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: So I think Adrian his first year of eligibility for
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame is the next class twenty twenty.
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: Maybe it was this class. I might be wrong, but
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: it might be the next class twenty twenty six, Yeah,
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: because he got to be five years out and he
- 1:06:49Speaker 2: played with the Seahawks in twenty twenty one and the Titans,
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: so maybe it was this year and he missed out
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: on it. Either way, he'll be a Hall of Famer
- 1:06:56Speaker 2: so and for sure right now he's a Vikings Ring
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: of Honor.
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: So. Friend of the show Dustin Baker tweeted today he
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: said this, after Adrian Peterson is in the Vikings Ring
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: of Honor, who's next? And he listed out some possible players,
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: So we'll list him out here. Give us your prediction.
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: C J Ham, Anthony Barr, Adam Thielen, Anthony Carter, Harrison Smith,
- 1:07:22Speaker 1: Tommy Kramer, Eversince Griffin, Chad Greenway, and Twine winfield Man
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: and he off the cuff just like knee jerk reaction.
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: This is who's gonna go in next?
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: So this is just looking at Vikings Ring of Honor,
- 1:07:38Speaker 2: and honestly, we're we're biased Vikings fans. We know all
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: of these names. I do I appreciate Dustin when you
- 1:07:47Speaker 2: put this list together, throwing in some of the legacy guys,
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: Anthony Carter and obviously Tommy Kramer.
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: That's Winfield's kind of in that lace category.
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: Yeah, he's definitely getting there. I mean in the league now, Yeah,
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: that's and he's been in the league for shoot, he
- 1:08:05Speaker 2: was in the league. He was there for a long
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: time with his I think his rookie year was Tom
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: Brady's Buccaneers super Bowl year. That was twenty twenty, wasn't it.
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: So he's been in it for a while. But yeah,
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: I think I don't know as far as next, I
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: get skewed because you think if the team was gonna
- 1:08:24Speaker 2: put a Tommy Kramer, a legacy guy, in the Ring
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: of Honor, they would have done it already. Like he
- 1:08:31Speaker 2: he I'm pretty sure he started one of the Super
- 1:08:33Speaker 2: Bowls for the Vikings like that. That's a that's a
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: while ago.
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: So and I wonder if they're not only looking at
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: like on the field stuff, but if they're looking at
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: some off the field stuff too, because I know Tommy
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: Kramer has been attached to the organization in his retirement
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: for a while, so, like he still hosts people at
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: his house. I think we've talked about maybe trying to
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: go to a game at his place.
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: I know, I know Ros does that.
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Tommy Kramer does something similar though. But anyways,
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: I know that he's attached to the organization and still
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: has a good rapport in the building and whatnot, and
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: probably has the like emeritus favor, you know, like, yeah,
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: come on in, you got the keys to the building. Whatever.
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: So I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if it's
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: a guy like him, just because he's I think deserving
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: and it's been a while. But I wouldn't be surprised
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: too if it's somebody that's a little bit more recent.
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: I think I'm thinking Chad Greenway. I think he's to me,
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: the more logical one. He was a heck of a player,
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: and I think he's still in the area.
- 1:09:46Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think he's based in.
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: He's got areads that are in school in the Twin
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: Cities area, and I think his daughter is a basketball stud.
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: But that's not Vikings related.
- 1:09:58Speaker 2: I wonder who be for Adrian who was the most
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: recent to be in the Ring of Honor, Jared Allen
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: maybe was it. I mean, they don't just do it
- 1:10:08Speaker 2: every year. Jared Allen was in twenty twenty two. We
- 1:10:16Speaker 2: actually went to the game that they gave him that honor. Yeah,
- 1:10:24Speaker 2: it might have been Jared Allen was the most recent,
- 1:10:26Speaker 2: and so if that was twenty twenty two, Jared Allen's
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: last season with the Vikings was something like twenty thirteen
- 1:10:32Speaker 2: or something like that.
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: I think we were also at the game where Jim Finks.
- 1:10:36Speaker 2: That's ringing a bell.
- 1:10:37Speaker 1: Too, inducted into the Ring of Honor.
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: So by this logic, Adrian Peterson last played with the
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: Vikings in like twenty seventeen, and it's now twenty twenty
- 1:10:46Speaker 2: six and they're putting him in. So it seems like
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: there's a ten year wait list for guys.
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: I stand corrected. We were not there together when Jim
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: Finks was in. That was October nineteen ninety eight, oh man,
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: when he was inducted. But I think they like recognized him.
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: Maybe he had just passed away or something that might.
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: Yeah, because yeah, you're right, that's ringing a bell. We've
- 1:11:07Speaker 2: been at a game where they've announced his name before.
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: So yeah, I think by that logic, pull that list
- 1:11:14Speaker 2: up again that Dustin put out, let's look at guys
- 1:11:18Speaker 2: that have been out for ten years.
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: Winfield, Greenway.
- 1:11:22Speaker 2: It might be a Winfield or a Greenway, yeah, or
- 1:11:27Speaker 2: the Temple guys. Yeah. So yeah, maybe Winfield or Greenway
- 1:11:32Speaker 2: or the best bets for a Ring of Honor. I
- 1:11:34Speaker 2: think both are deserving. You know, depending on who you ask.
- 1:11:39Speaker 2: Winfield might be the best Vikings free agent in team history. Like,
- 1:11:44Speaker 2: he had an amazing career after signing with the Vikings,
- 1:11:49Speaker 2: and that's with being after being with Buffalo for a
- 1:11:52Speaker 2: few years too, So yeah, either way, it was a
- 1:11:57Speaker 2: formality to put Adrian Peterson in the Ring of Honor.
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: I'm glad enough time has passed since his separation with
- 1:12:05Speaker 2: the team and since his off the field issues, at
- 1:12:08Speaker 2: least with the team. I know he's even in recent
- 1:12:12Speaker 2: memory had like he fought some guy over a poker
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: game or something like that, but and that they were
- 1:12:21Speaker 2: able to do it before I looked it up. He's
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: Adrian's first year of eligibility for the Hall of Fame
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: will be next year, so he could make it in
- 1:12:31Speaker 2: the next induction class. Yeah.
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: Well, it'll be interesting to see. And the cool thing
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: is the Vikings have had a whole lot of really
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: really good players come through, and even in the Ring
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: of Honor, it's not just players but really good people.
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: I think it's a good organization overall. People have the
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: people in the league, people involved, the players mostly have
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: ranked the Vikings as one of the top organizations to
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: be a part of in football. So that makes me
- 1:13:03Speaker 1: feel good as a fan that they're taking care of
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: people and they're doing right by people. And I hope
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: that that all turns into success on the field, because
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: I think when you do that, when you do the
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: right things outside, the things inside will take care of
- 1:13:19Speaker 1: themselves and hopefully turn into some wins and maybe a
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: Super Bowl championship.
- 1:13:24Speaker 2: Hopefully sometime in her lifetime.
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: You're looking at hockey scores right now, the Wild are
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: down three.
- 1:13:30Speaker 2: Yeah, so by the time anybody listens, they'll know the
- 1:13:33Speaker 2: end of this game. But they're down three to two
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: and with the right about four minutes left, so hopefully
- 1:13:39Speaker 2: they can they can figure it.
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: Out and crunch time.
- 1:13:42Speaker 2: Yeah, boom two to one in this series, so if
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: they if they lose this game, it's elimination next game,
- 1:13:48Speaker 2: So hopefully they can.
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: Figure it out. Well. Minnesota's got two teams in the
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: playoffs right now, the Wild and the Timberwolves, and both
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: have shown that they can play well and beat the
- 1:13:58Speaker 1: big teams. So who knows. Maybe it's maybe it's high
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: time for a championship to come back to Minneapolis.
- 1:14:06Speaker 2: Who do you think that it has the best chance
- 1:14:09Speaker 2: right now, the Wild or the Timberwolves.
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: I think the Timberwolves do. I just really haven't followed
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: the Wild too much.
- 1:14:14Speaker 2: If you would have asked me a week ago, I
- 1:14:16Speaker 2: definitely would have said the Wild. But this series has
- 1:14:18Speaker 2: been tough.
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think getting Anthony Edwards back has been helpful.
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: And I know he's kind of on a pitch count
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: a little bit, but he's arguably one of, if not
- 1:14:31Speaker 1: the best player in the NBA right now, so getting
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: him back was huge, even if it's in a limited capacity.
- 1:14:38Speaker 1: And I think he's proving that he's going to do
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: everything he can to push forward. And I think he's
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: probably even challenging that limitation a little bit, like, Nope,
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: just put me out there and if I gotta get
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: surgery in the off season, I will kind of thing.
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: I don't know. Hockey's also such a fickle thing, like
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: goals are few and far between usually, and you know,
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: as a team, you can't always just will your way
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: to victory because you might make the world's greatest shot
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: and then it ricochets off three sticks before it gets there,
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: and then it doesn't go in. And I don't know,
- 1:15:16Speaker 1: I think I like the Timberwolves. Chance is just a
- 1:15:18Speaker 1: little bit more at this point than the Wild.
- 1:15:21Speaker 2: Hopefully they both figure it out and keep going.
- 1:15:23Speaker 1: Yeah, school Wild and school Timberwolves.
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: All right, ev what'd you think of this blueberry beer here?
- 1:15:30Speaker 1: This was good. It was like a hint of blueberry
- 1:15:34Speaker 1: with just a good ale, a good blonde ale underneath. Yeah,
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: and not pretending to be something that it's not. It's
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: not like it's not even blue in color. Like that's
- 1:15:46Speaker 1: what I was expecting. I thought, this is like that
- 1:15:48Speaker 1: pure that we had a couple of weeks ago that
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: was like thick and it was pink because it was
- 1:15:53Speaker 1: strawberry banana. That's kind of what I was expecting. And
- 1:15:58Speaker 1: I was pleasantly surprised. Is good and very crushable, and
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: I don't know, I'd probably have it again.
- 1:16:04Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. It's it's an easy drinker. It's
- 1:16:08Speaker 2: it's nice five point four percent, so you're not, you know,
- 1:16:12Speaker 2: killing yourself. It's it's decent flavor. It's just a good beer.
- 1:16:17Speaker 2: It's a beer's beer. You know it's solid for somebody.
- 1:16:21Speaker 2: If somebody were to hand me one at any time,
- 1:16:23Speaker 2: I'd be like, yeah, sounds good. Okay, Yeah, I mean
- 1:16:27Speaker 2: some beers. If you hand me like a an Na beer,
- 1:16:29Speaker 2: I'm going to be like, you got anything else?
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: You know? Thanks?
- 1:16:33Speaker 2: Yeah, this one I'm appreciating every single time. Nice hint
- 1:16:38Speaker 2: of blueberry flavor, and I like that. I don't need
- 1:16:41Speaker 2: a strong fruity flavor.
- 1:16:42Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff, all right.
- 1:16:46Speaker 2: Ev If people want to keep the conversation going, how
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- 1:17:17Speaker 2: Yeah, So we need to we need to figure out
- 1:17:20Speaker 2: I think we need to fix some things to get
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- 1:17:27Speaker 2: let video podcasts happen a little bit easier, So we
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- 1:17:36Speaker 1: Yep, just type us into Google, you'll find us.
- 1:17:38Speaker 2: We're out there, all right, man, this uh, this was
- 1:17:43Speaker 2: a lot of fun, and we're about to enter a
- 1:17:44Speaker 2: time when there's not gonna be hopefully, knock on wood,
- 1:17:48Speaker 2: not a ton of news because, like I said earlier,
- 1:17:50Speaker 2: if there's a ton of news, somebody probably got in trouble.
- 1:17:52Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we have some we have some plans to
- 1:17:55Speaker 1: kind of fill in the time with some non Vikings
- 1:17:58Speaker 1: specific things.
- 1:17:59Speaker 2: Yeah, punishment related.
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it should be fun. Hopefully in the next
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: couple of weeks we'll get there. We'll have plenty to
- 1:18:06Speaker 1: talk about with the schedule coming out next week though,
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: that'll probably fill up most of our time next week.
- 1:18:11Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be fun, all right man, good beer, great conversation,
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