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Movie Review! - Kpop Demon Hunters · I Was Thinking…

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What's up everybody, beautiful people around the world.
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It is your host Simone and your Co host Lala and welcome back to
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I was thinking, yeah, I always say that it's it's been a
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minute, but it has truly been a minute.
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So this was supposed to come out like technically last.
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Week. Yeah, it's supposed to come out
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this current week. We were supposed to record it
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last week. Yes, time.
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Time is weird, especially since I will put this out, end up a
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week later. Yes, whatever, Lala said.
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Yes, but we're back real quick. How are you?
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Pretty good, nothing too crazy. Getting used to a new job so my
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schedule is a little, I don't want to say wonky, but I'm
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exhausted by the end of it. I mean, that's understandable.
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You got to get used to the work culture there.
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New coworkers. And now it's like a job to the
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office. Yeah, the traveling to the
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office, getting, it takes an hour for me to get home after
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work because of traffic. So by the time I get home, I'm
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just exhausted. I'm like, I just want to eat and
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I just want to go to sleep because I got to wake up the
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next day and do it all over again.
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So understandable. I mean, hopefully it won't take
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you too long. I would say like maybe a month
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or two. You should be fully adjusted so.
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Yeah, hopefully. How have you've been?
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Same old, same old, trying to get my health in order, working,
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all that good stuff. I have started the jaw punt
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again, even though I'm not fully healed.
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But I'm low key tired of remote work.
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I need to find something to Get Me Out of this apartment.
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So whether it's hybrid, yeah, whether it's hybrid or fully
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back in office, I'm fine. But I kind of need to.
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I need to go back outside is what I'm saying.
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I think US earth signs are not meant to stay indoors for very
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long because I, I'm feeling a lot better now that I've started
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this like hybrid job. So I think a hybrid would even
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be a really good one for you. That makes sense because I can
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tell my mental has take because if I'm in this house I'm not
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leaving unless I'm forced out of this house which is sad to say
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but it is what it is. Yeah.
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But also, it's been extremely hot.
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So it's like, why do I want to leave, you know, global boiling,
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all that, all that great stuff. But that's not what we're here
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to talk about today. The world ends.
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We have a very long episode today, as you can see by the
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title. So we'll go ahead and jump into
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it. But real quick, we do have a BTS
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corner. You know, again, we're both
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armies. So we got to, we got to
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celebrate our men, starting with Jen, who had officially started
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his tour, kicking off the first two shows in Seoul.
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And then he was in, I believe this is pronounced Chiba, which
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is in Japan. And then I think the weekend
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that we're recording now, he's in Osaka before he comes over to
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the States. Are you excited?
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I am very excited. I'm just excited to have a
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member finally come to Florida and I hope they like it enough
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to where he's like, Oh yeah, we got to go there for the group.
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Please come here for the group. I missed my chance.
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It's 2020 because of COVID. OK, let's keep going.
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We don't need to. I know, I know.
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But yes, we will talk about Jed's tour, but it will be after
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I see him so and hopefully we can get Gina on here because
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she's going with me. It's me, her and her daughter
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Emma. So I'm very excited.
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I'm going to be her kids for the first time.
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Yay. Yes, pray for me because I'm
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very awkward around children. Oh, you'll be.
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Fine, I know and they're they're like they're older pre teen, but
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still that's. What I mean, they'll be fine
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because I'm pretty sure they're just going to be chill back so
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it'll be fine. You'll be fine.
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Yes. And then we also do have Hobie
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doing Hobie Palooza in Berlin this this Sunday while we
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record. But obviously, again, it'll be
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over once this episode's out, so.
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He's going to do amazing, though.
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I mean, listen, I went to Hobie Palooza in Chicago.
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That was such an amazing show. So I'm I'm sure he's going to
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kill it. They are live streaming it,
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aren't they? I think so, yeah.
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I think they're live streaming it on the actual Bonkton like TV
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YouTube channel so. OK.
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Yeah. I might have to make sure to
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catch that. We need to find out the time,
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OK? But then also we're only really
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breaking them up because on July 1st we finally got our post
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military OT 7 and I'm so happy. It wasn't like in the middle of
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the night where I missed it because I was so scared that was
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going to happen. And I just happened to be
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sitting at work and I saw it said BTS started their live.
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And I was like, OK, is this a promotional thing that I forgot
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about or is this actually them? And then when I clicked on it
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and saw those seven faces, I was like, oh, I'm gonna start
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crying. Well, I have to answer these
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phones to try to not sound like I've been crying.
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Fine, it's fine. Listen, you got lucky.
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I was at work so I couldn't even click on to like see it.
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I was, I like I saw the thumbnail and I was like, oh,
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they're doing their live, they're back together.
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I'm like, OK, I'll have to like watch the replay of it later.
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Yeah, but it was so nice to see their faces and seeing them
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together. Obviously I've already watched
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the live so they're chaotic. So everybody, welcome back to OT
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7. Nothing has changed when they're
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all together we got we'll be throwing himself again as
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laughter going off gym with his dad jokes.
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Yep, Mockney line flirting with each other non June rambling.
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It's great. It's great.
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And you, you know the old man. Yes, being an old man and
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whispering and making fun of Jimin.
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The the moment that the I think it was German, yeah.
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Jimin was bringing up some of like the slang words.
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I like focused in on young. And you can see Yungi like kind
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of like these young kids. Like you could see the facial
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expression in him. I'm like, oh, there's my old
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man. It was so.
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Great, it was so great and I really love that live too
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because again, it just shows how much they're in control of their
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own work because we did get a confirmation from them
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themselves. They're going to start working
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on a group album with plans to release it next spring, so in
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spring 2026. So get ready, all money ready
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for everything, OK? Especially with the maybe
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tariffs being put on Japan and South Korea.
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But yeah, we're not even going to touch that.
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OK, no, we're not acknowledge that.
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But but, but, but along with the album announcement, they also
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did announce a tour for come spring of next year.
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So really, get your pockets ready.
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And it's interesting that they're, well, they're right
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there now except for like Jen and Hobie, that they're
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recording this in the States. I found that interesting when
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they said that. I have my theories on why
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they're doing it in the States, but I kind of I want to look
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more into it before I say anything.
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We can talk about it later. Yes.
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Well, we kind of did. We kind of did.
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I think I've already told you like my theory privately.
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Yeah. You're.
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Going to have to tell me again later I forgot but it's it's
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fine. It's fine, don't worry.
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Yes, so they'll. Be in LA approximately about two
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months it seems like. I think they're going to be
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longer because they're waiting for Jen to finish his tour.
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Yes and Jen doesn't finish his tour until August.
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So I think that's the reason why they said July to September.
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I think they were saying. So we'll have to wait and see.
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I do understand Yungis comment though, of it being like, this
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is going to be something different.
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And I think it's because like now that everyone had their
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solos, everyone's going to have their own inputs on like the
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range that they're comfortable in being in or what type of
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things they want to challenge themselves into.
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So like all of that has to be incorporated into this new
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album. And it's just like RM said in
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the live, they haven't had an actual full group album since
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2020. So, yeah, by the time they, you
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know, it's already been five years.
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And hope we had mentioned that too, you know, they got to get
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back together and like the groove of being a unit again at
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7, incorporate all the different sounds from their solos into the
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group, probably find new sounds to keep up like what we were
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talking about. I think off like recording like
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with the trends, with the new trends and everything.
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So, yeah, yeah. Because even you brought that up
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on how, like, the interest, the industry has changed since, you
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know, they've been on the military and everything like
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that. And you know, we can take, for
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example, with Gin doing, country doing rope it and then Holby
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doing killing a girl. Like it's completely different
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than what you would imagine like BTS as a group to do, but it's
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also a lot of artists is what they're doing.
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They're testing things out, they're trying different genres
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that they've wanted to try and challenging themselves, which is
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great because like that's how growth happened.
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So now to bring 7 individuals into one group all over again
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and trying to figure out what everyone is comfortable in
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challenging or what they want to change or the sound that they
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want to make together as a group, like, yeah, that's going
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to be hard. But they'll do it.
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I believe them. Yeah.
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And again, they're taking their time, which I'm great because
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remember, we had all these rumors like they were going to
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make the album and put it out the end of this year and then go
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on tour. And it's like, I'm glad from
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them themselves. They're like, we need time, give
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us time. And they gave us a set date, so
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I'm excited and we are here. Part was Nam June singing soda
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pop at the end of that life? Yes, because it goes into our
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topic today of hey pop demon hunters that's taken over it's
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world appropriate pretty much it over the K pop scene.
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It's taken over the Americans, like people who aren't into K
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pop. It's all over my like Twitter
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slash X, whatever you want to call it all over my TikTok.
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Seeing so much like fan theory, so much merch, so much fan art.
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I think this is a sleep a sleep hitter.
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If that's correct, Like this is a movie.
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I don't think anyone, even the creators expected to like like
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obviously they wanted it to do well.
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I don't think they expected it to like take off like this, you
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know, like explode. I have not seen a media piece,
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especially a movie, have a quick cult following like this in a
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very, very long time. I I don't even know when the
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last movie I've truly seen take off like this.
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And I'm not counting like sinners from earlier because
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that also, you know, did take off pretty quickly when it came
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out. It did, but obviously, like I
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feel because of the fact that this was released on Netflix and
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so it it was able to be more accessible to a lot of different
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people in a lot of other countries because obviously they
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have this movie in a lot of different languages as well.
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I think it was easier for it to have like the cult like all of a
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sudden bring all these people together, you know?
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So yeah, I don't, I don't think, I really don't know.
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I don't know. I think the only other one that
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I can I can kind of see only because like I've seen so many
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people talk about it a lot was probably Moana.
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But I don't first one obviously first because even the second
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one everyone was very excited for.
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So I feel but to like this gravity, this type of level.
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That the it's been a long time. Yeah.
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I want to say like the close, maybe third to get close to that
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would be Moana, OK? Because I, I, I've seen both of
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them and I do remember there was mixed reviews on the second one,
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especially with the music too. I don't know, I feel like
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there's another one aside from Moana, but I'm trying to think.
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I can't put anything together. And I feel like all the ones I'm
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thinking of are like super old like I'm trying to think in
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recent times. You know what the other one that
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could potentially be is fucking Avengers.
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I don't know why that blink. Yes, like old school Avengers,
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the original Avenger movies. That's like with Tony, like, not
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Tony Stark with Robert Downey Junior and like, yeah, Scarlet,
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yes. Johansson Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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yeah, yes. So like I think before and game
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because I know they've been kind of on a.
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Downhill, yeah, I want to say like the end game, the end game
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was like the biggest one and then after that it just kind of
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fell through. But I mean the off like the
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actors are, you know, they're everyone's getting older.
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So I understand why they want to like move on on other projects.
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So yeah, But yes, like Lala has said, we had our Dear Leader Dom
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June singing soda pop. And it was funny because like
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when he started thinking, JK got so excited.
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He's like you seen it too. I'm not surprised by that.
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I am not. Surprised.
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Either he's seen it. I would have actually expected
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JK to be the one who started singing it.
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Yes, Jude. Yes, that was literally my
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thought process. When I saw that happening, I was
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all like, oh, OK, and I'm June, like hurry, get it, get it.
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So what you're telling me is your soul also would have been
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snatched by the Soulja boys? OK, I get it.
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Listen. Yes, yes, yeah.
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So clearly Nam, June and JK are right there in that same boat
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with me, getting our souls snatched by soda pop.
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Yes, it made such headlines of him singing it that even the
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official Netflix like Twitter account had changed their bio to
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BTS, noted Saja Boys 7125 right after that live.
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As they should. I mean, that's as they should.
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It's an exciting. It's an exciting moment.
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I do feel though, that JK is more like with Huntrix.
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Oh yeah, it's. You know the guy who keeps
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ripping off his hoodie? No matter, Tim, that is.
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I think that's JK, actually. Where, like the saja boys are
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on. He's like, yeah, Saja boys.
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And then the Huntrix comes on. He rips it off and it says
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Huntrix. He's like, I love you Huntrix.
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That is JK. Yeah, totally, completely.
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Because don't get it confused, he loves his girl groups down.
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Always has. Yeah, got to give it up for JK.
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Yes, I need someone to ask them later on who their biases are,
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but we'll get to that later. So is there anything you want to
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say about this movie before we deep dive?
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We haven't done like a review like this in a minute.
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So just remember guys, what we review like any documentaries or
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TV shows or movies, we spoil everything before that I will
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get into like the creation of the movie, people who are
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involved of it and like the cast and crew.
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And then after that, when we start doing the actual review is
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when we spoil it. So we'll let you know if you
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don't want to know any spoilers, when I let you know when we get
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into the movie review, you can stop this and actually go watch
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the movie. Like go support the movie and
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then come back. If you don't care.
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You can listen to this, learn about everything, and still go
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watch the movie. Go and take your own, take in
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your own what you would take out of it from watching it because I
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feel like this movie has such good deep meanings and
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connections in it. No matter what, you will get
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something out of it. It doesn't matter how old you
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are honestly. Like I know that this is such an
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animated movie and so many people are still like, Oh well,
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it's animated, it's a cartoon, it's for kids and everything.
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But the meaning behind it, like honestly I think it hits more of
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the adults. And I miss movies like that.
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We used to get so many movies like that.
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Like my all time favorite is Shrek and I feel like,
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especially as a person who loves animation, actually used to want
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to work in the animated like industry when I was younger.
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It's like this is the thing that's missing from yes, it's
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labeled a kids show or kids movie, but it's enjoyable for
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everyone. And the parents actually enjoy
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it too. Can get, you know, like if
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there's like some dirty jokes, they can understand The Dirty
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jokes or just like the deeper meaning that the kids may not
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understand too. Because obviously look who's
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putting in the money for the merch and things like that.
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It's the adults. It's the adults.
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So. You know, the other thing that I
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just realized because of you saying and bringing up like
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Shrek and everything. Have you ever seen Littlefoot?
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The dinosaurs? No.
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Oh no, I've never seen that. OK, well, this is just showing
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my age. That's fine.
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It's fine. Anyways, for anyone that's
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listening, if you ever remember like Bambi Littlefoot and like
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it was so it was such good movies, but like you do end up
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crying because there's certain things that happen.
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This movie does that. I think now I realize why I I'm
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so obsessed with this movie. I will say I've lost count how
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many times I've seen this movie already.
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I'll say I watched it last night, just before, you know,
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this morning too. I'm pretty sure I've watched it
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at least once this week. It's it's that bad.
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And there's not really anything that I watched that much before.
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And don't get like bored of watching it repeatedly.
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Yeah, I think the last time the only other thing that show, I
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guess I should say show. The only other show that I can
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go back and it doesn't matter and I can pick up from any
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season anywhere is Supernatural, Supernatural and Criminal Mind.
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I used to like Supernatural but then I fell off and I didn't
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watch the last two seasons I think.
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But to your point the show only show I do that with also is the
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anime fairy tale so. Have you ever seen Fruits
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Basket? I know we're going a little bit
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off topic, but just because. We're in.
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It's very fine. Yeah, no, I have not.
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I am familiar with it, I hear some mixed reviews on that
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anime, but no. I've never watched it, but I
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know of it. I can understand the mixed
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reviews. I could actually understand that
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because yeah, yeah. But it's good.
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I enjoyed it if you disregard certain things.
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That's why there's mixed reviews.
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So I maybe, maybe I'll take a gander and watch it and see.
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Yes. Back to K Pop.
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Yes, Demon Hunters. And this is also going to be
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shade. You know, maybe if the Disney
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CEO wasn't so focused of making shows or movies just for kids
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because he says animation is only enjoyable for kids, maybe
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your movies would do a little better, Sir, I'm just saying.
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But also treat your workers better.
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Yeah. Like, there's a difference
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between making things just for money and making things that if
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you're passionate about and it comes through, that makes it
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more enjoyable for audiences. I'm just saying, you know, maybe
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you can learn from this even though you already make tons of
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money, but from nostalgia, there's going to become a point
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where people get tired of nostalgia.
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Oh hell yeah. Plus on top of that, it's it's
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nothing like the original, you know what I mean?
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It's almost like all the the remakes of like bringing them
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into live actions because they think, oh, this is what's going
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to get the adults. Like, no.
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We can watch animation and get hooked to them.
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You just need actual authentic stories.
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Disney while also not actually promoting the movies you do put
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out with authentic and new stories.
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Like I know there's one that just came out for Pixar and I
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heard nothing about it until like the week it was supposed to
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be released. And the look you're giving me,
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you probably don't know about it either.
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The Elios 1. Exactly, exactly.
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That's what I'm saying. You just proved my point right.
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There no nothing, girl, nothing came out.
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Yep. Sonic Animation movies, you're
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where it's at because the last movie that they basically had
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done animation was back in 2023 and it was for the Spider Man.
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And it's one of the favorite ones too.
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It's the Spider Man across the spider verse.
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So it's funny you mention that because I was actually going to
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mention Spider Man when I started talking about movie, but
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how Bilal wasn't ahead of me. So we will just go ahead.
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Sorry, yeah, I just. Thought to see.
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Because like, my thought process was like, wait, when was the
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last time that's on the animations?
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Because from what I know of, they make really good animation
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movies. So I want to they're about.
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To be ahead of the game so they know what.
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They're and they take their time.
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That's the thing too is they take their time to do the
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creative work of it. So again, like you said, if
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you're passionate with something, you're always going
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to kill it. Yes, exactly.
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So getting into the movie, so K Pop Demon Hunter, as we keep
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saying is animated movie created by Sony Animation Pictures and
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it's been distributed through Netflix, which became available
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for streaming on June 20th, 2025 and it is rated PG, which again
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y'all PG just means parental guidance.
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So there's still some things where, you know, it may be more
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suitable for the older kids or make sure a parent's there.
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That's what PG means. It doesn't mean it's just for
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kids. Now, I wrote down to
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descriptions of the movie just because Netflix's 1 is so vague.
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And then I like the one on Rotten Tomatoes.
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It just sounds better. So like, if you don't know
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anything about this movie like the one Rotten Tomatoes gives
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you is when they aren't selling out stadiums, K Pop superstars
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Rumi, Mira and Zoe use their secret identities as bad as
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demon hunters to protect their fans from an ever present
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supernatural supernatural threat.
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Together they must face their biggest enemy yet, an
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irresistible rival boy band of demons in disguise.
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Isn't that a great description? Without really giving too much
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away, because then here's Netflix's description.
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Wobbling up ramen one minute, taking down demons the next.
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He's K, pop it, girls can do it all.
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Now it's time to slay and save the world.
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What does that mean? I'll take the rotten tomato once
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over the Netflix one. I'm just saying because it comes
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off really cheesy. Yeah, like the Rotten Tomatoes
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would actually grab the attention of like adults more
23:09
than the Netflix one. The Netflix 1 is literally like
23:12
more gathered towards like children watching it.
23:16
Yes, it's just funny, but. OK, so Speaking of Rotten
23:21
Tomatoes on there, the critics have rated this movie a 94%
23:26
fresh tomatoes and an 89% audience rating.
23:31
Now, that was when I originally took these notes because we were
23:34
supposed to record this previously as we talked about at
23:36
the beginning of this episode. So the update from this morning
23:41
as we're recording this now, it is at a 96 fresh tomatoes and a
23:46
90% audience rating. And like even the audience
23:50
rating, like it has like 10,000 like ratings of people like, you
23:55
know, commenting or like giving reviews on Rotten Tomatoes.
23:59
That's a lot. You know what?
24:01
I need to go be one of them. Put my first rating on a movie
24:06
on Rotten Tomatoes because I've never done that, so hell yeah.
24:09
Oh my God. So yes, this movie does have,
24:16
you know, one of the intricate things about it is the music and
24:20
the soundtrack, obviously. So the soundtracks original
24:24
songs were written by now let me say this also, I apologize in
24:28
advance for any names I may mispronounce.
24:31
I'm going off reading them. I usually need to hear like,
24:34
what's the what's the word fanatically?
24:37
No sonically, what is the word where you have to hear it on how
24:40
it's pronounced? What is that?
24:42
Is too early, don't know. OK.
24:45
I have to hear what it sounds like to get the pronunciation,
24:50
so I apologize. And that even goes for later on
24:53
when I say Korean words because if y'all been listening to us
24:57
for a while, I go on and off on my study trying to pick it back
25:00
up again. Yes, because BTS is returned.
25:02
So I apologize for mispronouncing and butchering
25:07
any Korean words I say. Let's get back to these names.
25:10
So the soundtrack was written by Danny Chung.
25:14
Believe this is Ito, Vince Kush. Yes.
25:21
Kush. EJ, Jenna Andrews, Stephen Kirk.
25:26
I think this is like, German or something.
25:28
Lind Lindgren. Lindgren.
25:32
Lindgren. Yeah, I think so.
25:34
Mark Sonan, Blick. Blick and Daniel.
25:41
I don't know if this is Spanish. Is it like Rojas?
25:43
Yeah. Daniel Rojas.
25:45
OK. Spanish.
25:46
Yeah. OK It is also produced by Teddy
25:49
Park, 24 Ito Doman Shook. I believe that's Korean.
25:56
Jenna Andrews, Stephen Kirk, Lynn Grin and Ian Eisendrath and
26:04
one of the songs on there I said lid lead single but I don't
26:07
think it's technically the lead single in this movie.
26:10
But one of the songs, Takedown also has a version that is
26:13
performed by Jung Yong Jiho and Cheong from the group Twice and
26:19
learning about all the behind the scenes things.
26:21
I had saw the creator had said when they got Twice on board for
26:25
this, they actually asked the girls like what song they wanted
26:27
to cover and they all chose Takedown.
26:29
So that's why they do their own version of it.
26:33
And also too, since they brought them on there, they added the
26:36
group song strategy onto the soundtrack.
26:38
And strategy was the comeback for Twice before this recent one
26:42
that came out on July 11th. So the version that's on there
26:46
is the version with just the group, not the one with Megan
26:49
the stallion, because there is a version with Megan featuring on
26:52
the song strategy. Just to let people know if
26:55
they're not into Twice like that, so and +2, like they
26:59
actually do incorporate twice a lot in the movie, which I
27:02
thought was interesting. Like I'm getting ahead of
27:05
myself. But there is a scene where like
27:06
they're looking at the charts and it shows the song you see
27:09
twice on there. Yes, you see twice like the only
27:12
actual group in real life not made-up.
27:16
And like there is pictures of them throughout the movie as
27:19
well. Like it's really cute.
27:21
So now I'm pretty sure Lala already knows this, but I have a
27:26
question for you. Do the names Teddy Park 24 and
27:29
the other one that we couldn't pronounce, Dominic sound
27:33
familiar? Because they all have something
27:35
in common. Don't they all like work for
27:38
Black Label and like are? Correct.
27:41
Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding. So yes.
27:43
And Teddy Park is the well, he's the CEO of it now.
27:46
Oh. Oh oh, OK, that part I didn't
27:50
know. So obviously he came from like a
27:52
group back in the day. I don't know if he did any solo
27:55
work. I'm assuming he did.
27:56
And then for the longest time he was like one of the main
27:58
producers on under YG Entertainment.
28:02
So like he worked with, you know, like 21.
28:04
That was also one of his big groups.
28:05
And then like Black Pink and then he ended up taking over for
28:08
the Black Label, which I still get confused if it's technically
28:12
a subsidiary under YG Entertainment or if like they
28:16
bought enough shares to separate from YG.
28:19
But I think YG still has shares in the Black Label.
28:22
It's very confusing. But yes, he's basically in
28:26
charge of Black Label. Wouldn't YG also be kind of like
28:29
Hive? Like distributes their merch and
28:33
all that stuff and then the black label just does the music?
28:36
Or is YG also like a music label?
28:39
Well, they're a music label hive its own beast, so think of like
28:44
if YG was under high, but they're still their own music
28:47
label. Yeah gotcha.
28:48
OK, I don't know much about the business side, that shit gets
28:51
confusing for me, but they're their own music label, Yes,
28:55
although I'll. Have to take a look at that
28:57
stuff, but yeah, yes, that makes more sense.
29:00
And there was a station head that some of the creators did do
29:04
like I think sometime last week. I didn't catch all of it.
29:07
I did only caught like a few snippets because I was doing
29:09
things. But they always and they also
29:12
like emphasize that they wanted a very K pop sounding song to
29:16
introduce the movie. So like the Black Label at Teddy
29:20
Park, they were the ones that created the song.
29:21
How it's done? OK, I have some.
29:26
Oh, I mean, I can say it out loud.
29:28
Like, why aren't you guys creating music like this for
29:31
your own groups? But we'll just keep it at that.
29:34
Yes, yes. You read it?
29:37
Yeah. It's when I when I thought that
29:39
out, I was like Teddy Park because the way he gets
29:42
criticized so much for a lot of the Black Pink songs he's in
29:46
charge of and they all sounding the same.
29:48
But you're able to make something like this.
29:51
I'll say it, I don't. Care I'm shocked by that because
29:54
like what do you mean? And even do you mean that you're
29:58
going to help like? When he used to work for 21,
30:03
like he there's a lot of songs I didn't realize he worked on.
30:06
But the difference is they sound so different from each other.
30:10
Unless you looked at the credits, you wouldn't know.
30:12
Compared to whatever was happening with Blackpink.
30:14
It's like every time you heard a song, everyone's so quick to be
30:17
like, Oh well, there goes Teddy. And that's the crazy part
30:20
because there's certain songs that he's done like with the
30:23
girls from BLACKPINK, like separately on like their like
30:26
solo project that have killed it.
30:29
So like one of my favorite songs from Bros is on the ground and
30:33
he was part of the production of it and the lyrics.
30:37
So it's kind of like, dude, you can do it.
30:39
How are we not doing this for the group itself for Black
30:42
Paint? I don't know.
30:44
I don't know any Well, since he's now part of the Black
30:47
label, I don't know if he really works with them like that
30:50
anymore, but he, you know, he has his own groups now like the
30:53
Meow group, the all day Project, which we're not going to talk
30:56
about. I.
30:56
Know that Black Pink just released a song too, so I have
30:59
to go look at the credits to see if he's in it because they just
31:03
dropped the song and I don't know if like they're who's on
31:09
it, like who's the names are all on it.
31:11
So that'd be interesting to see, which obviously clearly is what
31:15
you're doing right now. He is.
31:22
I see Teddy right there. Also Diplo.
31:25
Did not know Diplo was part of this song.
31:28
I haven't listened to it, so I'm going to have to take a listen
31:32
to it after we're done recording.
31:33
It makes sense now that I see his name, but yeah, even the 24
31:37
person that I'm 24 is on there. He's on here, Yeah.
31:42
Damn, they have a lot of people part of the credits for writing
31:46
the song. But yes, and these songs are
31:50
clearly being beloved all over. So on July 2nd, it was revealed
31:55
that the soundtrack for K Pop Demon Hunters debuted at #8 on
32:00
the Billboard 200 music charts. And I believe that is globally.
32:04
Yeah, I think the 200 charts, they separated from like US only
32:07
and globally. So this one was for globally and
32:10
on the Billboard Hot 100 for the States, Your Idol by the Saja
32:14
Boys debuted at 77 and Golden was at 81.
32:19
On July 3rd, Saja Boys reached number one on the US Spotify
32:23
chart with Your Idol and Golden reached #2 And it's there's a
32:27
lot of arguments going on right now that we don't have time to
32:30
talk about. But it's interesting how like
32:32
they keep referring to them like as an actual K pop group.
32:35
And there's a lot of emphasis being on like they're the 1st K
32:38
pop boy and girl group to do this and like surpassing BTS and
32:42
Black Pink, which is like, I get it.
32:44
But like they're also not like a real group just because this is
32:47
for a movie. I feel like that's kind of
32:49
taking away from like the actual singers playing these
32:52
characters, like their credits. And you're only crediting like,
32:56
you know, Huntrix or Saja Boys. Does that make sense?
33:00
Yeah, I mean, I get it, but as as I also see it as they're
33:04
picking fun at the fact that it had to be a movie setting
33:08
soundtrack that beats quotation marks, beats BTS on their number
33:15
one spot compared to being like all the other K pop groups that
33:18
we have. That's messy because no, no
33:22
other it is. It is, but that's literally what
33:26
they're going at. That's literally what they're
33:28
going at though. At least that's the way that I
33:30
take it, that they're just poking fun at all the other
33:33
groups. Like how is it that an animation
33:35
movie, you know an animation fake K pop groups are the ones
33:41
to surpass BTS but the rest of you guys can't type of thing.
33:46
Yeah, I have nothing to comment on that because I feel like no
33:48
matter what I say, that comes off very shady.
33:50
But yes. So would you look it up because
33:52
I know it the stands, they're always fighting, but they've
33:55
definitely been fighting for this.
33:57
So I've just been watching it all.
33:58
I have. No, this is one of the things
34:00
where I'm just like, I have no opinion on this.
34:03
Yeah, as I also just continue with the streams.
34:06
Like I'm. Obviously contributing.
34:08
Exactly, which is why I said like obviously in Discord
34:12
yesterday, I ended up saying like, it's funny how this movie
34:16
will be the introduction for a lot of people into K Pop because
34:19
again, you know, this was distributed through Netflix,
34:23
which honestly, Sonic animations, man, you did it
34:26
'cause like that was a smart move.
34:28
One, is it Sonic, Sony, Sony, Sony.
34:33
It sounds like you're saying Sonic.
34:34
That's why I. Did say Sonic?
34:36
I think I do accidentally say Sonic for some reason.
34:39
Anyways, did I do Sonic? The hedgehog now that you said
34:42
the word Sonic. They did.
34:45
I think they did. I don't know.
34:47
Because that one is like animation meets, you know, like
34:52
real life. One of those type of movies.
34:56
No, that's done by Paramount. Paramount.
34:58
OK, anyway. They did a very smart move
35:02
though by distributing this on Netflix because it did get
35:07
access to everyone. So like now everyone's like
35:09
listening to the music and it's like people that don't even
35:12
listen to K pop are also listening to the soundtrack.
35:16
Right I've I've sold that these songs using so many TikTok edits
35:20
now, not even K pop ones like I've seen it's like were used
35:24
for Avengers this morning for like anime like jiu jitsu
35:28
Kaizen. What else was the big one I saw
35:31
for the spider verse? Like yeah.
35:35
It's being used everywhere and even like the day-to-day, some
35:38
people just like jamming it while they're doing their
35:41
day-to-day like stuff. So it's like a lot of people are
35:45
listening to it, which is the reason why they're charting the
35:48
way they're charting. Yes, because an update from that
35:52
that I also looked up this morning.
35:54
So like this week of charting bolded has hit #1 on Spotify's
35:59
Daily Top Songs Global chart on this past Thursday and your idol
36:04
is at #2 on the US Spotify chart.
36:08
So we've we save, we save the Han Moon guys, we did it. 100 X
36:14
is above the Saja boys. Han Moon is safe for now and
36:19
then on Billboard hot 1 hundreds.
36:21
Golden is at 23, your idol is at 31, how it's done is at 42, Soda
36:28
pop is at 48, what it sounds like is at 55, Free is at 58,
36:34
and Takedown is at 60. 4 I'm just actually surprised that
36:38
almost almost every song on that soundtrack is in the 100.
36:43
I mean, it pretty much is, except for like the three songs
36:45
that are used for like I don't see background music, but.
36:48
I know, but that it's technically what it is.
36:51
Yeah, so besides those 3 songs, it pretty much is all the
36:55
soundtrack. Yeah, crazy, crazy.
37:00
OK, so let us get into the creators behind this film,
37:06
starting with our main creator who came up with this idea for
37:10
the story about 7 years ago. I believe she said almost a
37:14
decade, but I know I think I saw her say seven years ago, Maggie.
37:19
Now I think it depends how you pronounce it.
37:22
And I know she's she's a Korean American or she's Korean
37:25
Canadian. She's one of those two Korean
37:27
Canadian. It's either Matt, is it
37:29
Canadian? OK so I'm not sure if she
37:33
pronounces Maggie Kang, which I've heard in the interviews, or
37:38
if it's like Maggie Kong which is how you actually pronounce it
37:42
in Korean. So either 1.
37:45
I don't know. I'm sure with her growing up she
37:49
is used to the way like people in the West pronounce it so.
37:54
But anyway, she wanted to make a film set in Korean culture, so
37:59
she delved into the mythology and demonology for something
38:02
that could be visually unique and compared to other mainstream
38:05
media. She also calls this film her
38:08
love letter to K Pop and her Korean brutes.
38:11
I also do want to point out, because I don't think I've
38:13
written this down, she has said multiple times the K Pop is
38:17
actually the last element that they put into this movie.
38:19
The whole point really was to just like find a way to like
38:23
show off Korean culture as well as like uplift women through
38:26
Korean culture and in some way of just like, you know, like
38:29
making them badass, but also, you know, like women that are
38:31
relatable in like real life and things like that.
38:33
And then I guess, and you know, in the modern day, a good way to
38:36
like tie that in together is through K pop.
38:38
So the main thing wasn't K pop initially, but that was just
38:42
added last to like make everything come come together.
38:46
Her influence was actually from the famous Korean director Bong
38:51
Joon Hold, which I'm sure many people, especially in the West,
38:56
are familiar with. His work Paradise, that came out
38:58
in 2019. That's the one at least we are
39:01
the most familiar with. But he's been a director
39:02
forever, so he's done a lot of, he's also done a lot of Western
39:05
movies too, like I know that one with Chris, one of the Chris's.
39:09
Which Chris is it? Chris Evans, that movie
39:11
Snowpiercer. I don't know if you know about
39:13
that movie or not. Yeah.
39:14
So he directed that as well. OK.
39:18
She was inspired by how he juggles so many different tones
39:21
in his film so that they felt very animated.
39:23
And then for the animation style, Kong and Chris Applehans,
39:28
which we'll talk about in a second.
39:30
We're also inspired by Sony's Spider Verse films, which
39:33
featured a hybrid of 2D and 3D styles.
39:36
Like how you brought that up earlier, Lala.
39:38
The way for them to animate this film was inspired by the spider
39:41
verse, and then they decided to pull away from the typical 2D
39:44
elements and go for a style with the aim of ACG version of anime.
39:48
And then for the character design, Kong wanted to get away
39:52
from the stereotypical Marvel female superheroes that were
39:55
just sexy and cool and badass. She wanted to have like girls
39:59
who were fun, you know, had pot bellies even though they didn't
40:02
have pot bellies. But it's fine.
40:04
Burp the recrass silly and fun. She also explained.
40:09
When it came to the history of Demon Hunters, they decided to
40:12
play into the shaman women from Korean culture as historically
40:15
these women would sing and dance to protect their village and
40:18
their communities. Hold on to that because I'm
40:21
going to talk about that a lot towards the end of this.
40:24
And I do want to bring this up because this was also,
40:26
especially at the K Pop community, especially when
40:28
people were really getting into it, huge debates on.
40:32
And I just need to say this to clear all this up.
40:35
So on her actual Twitter and X page, because I started
40:39
following her, she had quoted a tweet from one of those, you
40:43
know, like news pages or whatever.
40:45
And they had said like, I think they had specifically said like
40:49
specifically Jenny from Blackpink was the inspiration of
40:53
Rumi. And of course, from her quote
40:55
tweet, tweet fans got upset. However, Rumi's not the only one
40:59
where people are like oh this character was based on this
41:03
specific idol and then like there's people saying like Cha
41:06
Unu was the inspiration for Jinu.
41:10
So this is a direct quote from her where she says Rumi was
41:15
inspired by many leading ladies. Some not even K pop names are
41:19
going around individual idols and groups because we only said
41:23
yes as they were mentioned by the interviewers to us.
41:26
But a list of inspo for both Huntrix and Saja boys is
41:30
endless. And then this has been clarified
41:32
by us to press and also since we're recording this later to
41:37
back it up. I'm not sure if you know of the
41:40
solo artists who used to be called Alexa.
41:44
I know she's going through a lot of things with her label and I
41:47
don't know if she goes by that name anymore.
41:48
I think her real name is Alex. But anyway, just like how Kehoe
41:52
from P1 Harmony had revealed in a live that like he actually did
41:56
audition for this movie, so did she.
42:00
And it was to the point where she was like actually getting
42:03
like callbacks and stuff. I don't know if she auditioned
42:05
to sing or actually be the voice actress, but she had even said
42:10
in the live I saw a clip of where when she went to a
42:13
boarding room to like meet the creators, they had like on their
42:17
storyboard like a bunch of K pop, you know, idols and like
42:21
styles. They may have wore war and eras
42:23
and like her pictures were up there from her era because she
42:26
used to do like this. I don't know what you would
42:29
consider it like sci-fi theme and her music when she first
42:33
came out like futuristic and like how she I think she was
42:36
technically supposed to be like a robot warrior or something
42:39
like that. I don't remember fully, but yes.
42:42
So just to let everybody know, the inspiration can be many,
42:47
many idols that they're pulled from.
42:49
So whoever you think you see in them, that's all to you.
42:52
But there's no one specific idol that any of these characters are
42:57
based off of. And I really want to clarify
42:59
this too. For a lot of people that are
43:01
watching this movie, like you take what you can from this
43:05
movie, you interpret it the way that it sits with you and that's
43:10
including the characters. Like if you see certain idols or
43:14
certain actors or actresses, however, in this movie, then
43:19
that's how that's your interpretation.
43:20
And you have the right for that interpretation.
43:23
But it doesn't mean that you need to go online and say, no,
43:25
this is what this character was based.
43:27
No, it wasn't. And we got the clarification
43:30
from the maker itself. Like respect that please.
43:34
So, and it's all supposed to be fun.
43:36
This is all supposed to be fun in games of being like, oh, they
43:39
remind me of this idol. Like, let's go back to having
43:42
fun, guys. Don't make it so serious.
43:44
Yeah, like if you're just having fun with it and it's reminding
43:48
you of an idol and obviously there's like a specific, like
43:52
there's two specific scenes where I get reminded of an idol
43:55
of mine with one of the characters.
43:57
Like I do it as just for fun where it's all like, oh, and
44:01
like I it just makes me remember of an idol, but then that's it.
44:05
Like the movie continues on and I take from the movie, you know,
44:09
like I'm not going to be like, oh, this is exactly this, this
44:12
person. Like no, it's an animation ship
44:15
for crying out loud. Just enjoy it.
44:17
Exactly, exactly. All right.
44:20
So the directors of the movie is Maggie Kong herself and Chris
44:24
Applehans. I believe I'm saying that
44:26
correctly from what I've heard. And he had also worked
44:29
previously on 20/20 animated 2021 animated film called The
44:35
Wish Dragon, which is also on Netflix.
44:37
I actually watched it. It's pretty cute.
44:39
So if you have time to watch it, I would also highly recommend
44:43
that. Because when he finished doing
44:45
that, he was actually apparently supposed to like go on a break
44:48
until Maggie contacted her or contacted him.
44:51
Excuse me to see if he wanted to work on K Pop Demon Hunters.
44:56
And he was immediately like, yes, because, you know, he's
44:58
interested. He seems like because I believe
45:00
he's white. He seems like a guy who's
45:02
interested in like, you know, Asian cultures and things of
45:05
that nature. And he said like, he's really
45:08
also into K Pop. So he was like an immediate yes.
45:11
And it'd be a good challenge for him.
45:13
And then the screenplay writers is Maggie Kong, Chris Applehans,
45:19
Danya Menes and Hannah Make Mechon make con.
45:27
Yeah, you, yeah, you're on your own on that one.
45:29
OK, I apologize. Listen all all all of my
45:35
references and notes, all the links are in the description box
45:39
so y'all can see what they're spelled.
45:41
OK, I'm trying my best. All right, so let us get into
45:45
the cast, starting with the leading ladies of Huntrig.
45:48
So first we have our lead vocalist and leader of
45:52
Huntrig's, Rumi, and her sword in the movie is a Cyan Gom
45:58
sword, which I'll talk about in a minute.
46:01
She's voiced by Art and Cho, and the singing voice for Brumi is
46:06
EJ. So her weapon, a Cyan Gom sword
46:11
is the 4 Tigers Sword, a ritual blade used during the Jones
46:15
dynasty. 4 cardinal directions are guided by 4 Mystic tigers
46:20
and the sword symbolizes their protective strength.
46:23
And the sword was not just used as like a battle prop, but it
46:26
also has spiritual significance and was used in shamanic rituals
46:30
to ward off evil. So we have art and Cho who is an
46:34
actress. She's been in the game for a
46:36
while. If you're like my age and
46:39
generation, we best we know her best from Kira from Teen Wolf,
46:43
Justin justice for Kira. OK, I am so happy every time I
46:47
see art and Cho thrive because they did her so dirty and I'm a
46:51
say it love seeing her. I love me some art and Cho OK,
46:56
And I was also surprised aside from Teen Wolf that you didn't
47:00
recognize her because she also plays June in the recent live
47:03
action remake of Avatar the last airbender.
47:06
That's her. You actually like it.
47:08
I don't which we've. Done.
47:10
No, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
47:13
I don't mind it. I prefer the animation Chris
47:17
does. The one that likes the live
47:19
shit. What I got.
47:21
Don't you? Don't you?
47:22
I'm sorry, Nick. Girl memory was.
47:27
Misconstrued. Misconstrued.
47:28
OK, I apologize, but yes, I'm correct.
47:33
And the live action remake she plays Jude, which is, you know,
47:36
the hunter how they find Ang and all them they changed it in the
47:40
live action. But yeah.
47:42
And then we have EJ, who real name is Kim UN Jay.
47:47
So she is South Korean and she's a South Korean American
47:51
singer-songwriter and record producer.
47:54
She was born in Korea though and then like was going back and
47:57
forth from like the states to Korea for her education.
48:00
Fun fact, she actually trained at SM Entertainment for 10 years
48:04
and was supposed to debut in a group but the debut actually
48:08
failed with the group and I guess as a solo artist too.
48:13
And unfortunately they this is what I'm getting for my
48:17
research. So allegedly they had considered
48:21
her too old to debut. Now I've complained about the
48:26
ages and K pop for a while. I want to know what they
48:30
consider too old because she's currently only 33 years old.
48:34
So how old was she back then to where they considered her too
48:38
old to debut? It's my question because I was
48:41
seeing people say if she did debut in a group, it would have
48:45
been in a group Like she would have been the seniors for Girls'
48:48
Generation. And I know they were all around
48:50
like 1617 I think at the time they debuted.
48:53
So how how old was she when they considered her too old?
48:57
SM my many problems with you already.
49:00
But anyway, this letter moving to the US full time.
49:04
And thankfully that didn't stop her from being in the music
49:08
industry in general. So she has tons of credits in
49:11
writing, producing, and also providing backup vocals.
49:14
So there's some K pop songs where like if you pay attention
49:18
to the backup vocals, it is actually her singing.
49:20
And some songs listed were Red Velvet Cycle, which is like the
49:24
biggest one because it was a very popular song when it came
49:26
out in 2019, and a song Birthday, Twice as Last Waltz,
49:31
Aspa Drama and Armageddon and Mixes Debut 00 and their song
49:36
Dice and Cards Breakdown and Icky just to name a few.
49:41
There's a full list on Wikipedia.
49:43
I also like how they broke it down to where like they
49:45
highlighted which songs like she just produced and wrote for
49:49
which ones she actually provided her vocals on.
49:52
Going Wikipedia for that, but I'm happy for her.
49:55
OK, she's finally getting her shine.
49:57
OK, so now we're moving on to Mira, who is the visual and main
50:02
dancer of Huntriggs, and her weapon is a Oldo.
50:07
I should have found the Korean writing for this because I know
50:10
I'm mispronouncing it. However, she is voiced by Mei
50:13
Hong and her singing voice is by Audrey.
50:16
Nuna Waldo literally means Moonblade, a Korean pole arm
50:21
that closely resembles the Chinese.
50:24
I know I'm going to mispronounce this Guando, but it's
50:28
proportionally smaller. It was also typically used by
50:32
the medieval Celia Warriors class.
50:35
The Wadong. The Wadong, now Lala.
50:38
Does the name Wadong sound familiar to you As an army?
50:45
That should be the big hit as an army.
50:47
No, no. So they were real work warriors
50:52
back then, but they made a drama out of it there.
50:55
I think they were considered like the pretty boy warriors, if
50:58
I remember incorrectly. And I mentioned ARMY because
51:01
that's the drama that Tay was in with other idols.
51:04
And that's how he, you know, OK, found the Wuga squad.
51:07
Yeah. OK, OK.
51:09
Yeah. See my my whole drama going
51:11
somewhere else but OK, OK. There's a whole drama on that if
51:14
y'all want to know more about that.
51:16
So the actress and voice may honk.
51:19
Her most recent projects before Demon Hunters was a TV show
51:23
called Phantasmus and Full Circle.
51:27
Now when I looked on IMDb I always mispronounced that.
51:31
I think those are all the letters.
51:32
There are small roles so. But those are things she's
51:35
credited for. And then Audrey Nuna, who is a
51:38
musician, which I've heard of her before.
51:41
And I believe it was actually John Cook when he used to have
51:44
an Instagram that he had shared her most popular song at that
51:48
time. Damn right.
51:49
Because I know like obviously Nam June shares a lot of music,
51:52
but I I do believe it was actually John Cook.
51:55
He either shared it on when he used to have an Instagram or he
51:58
mentioned it in a live. My memory is a playing it was
52:02
Instagram. Instagram because there was a
52:04
point in time where he was sharing some of his music
52:07
because I discovered a couple artists through him as well.
52:11
So OK. And so that was when he used to
52:14
have an Instagram, which by the way, JK, can you like make a new
52:18
Instagram? Anyways, keep going.
52:21
OK, I won't comment on that. So her last Apple came out in
52:26
2024 called Trench, which I did listen to recommend.
52:30
I think you would like it Lala. There's a lot of songs with The
52:34
songs are very short, just to let you know.
52:36
I don't like, can I just say that?
52:38
I don't like how that's happening to certain, how
52:42
certain artists are deciding to make shorter music.
52:44
Like can we not? I know.
52:47
I think that's the reason also why I've been kind of sticking
52:50
with 17 because even like their newest album that they released,
52:56
it's still like almost close to 3 minutes long songs.
53:01
So I'm grateful for that. Don't change that please.
53:04
And this is also for like our BTS people and you know, our
53:10
beat test group. Please don't shorten your music.
53:13
I hope not. I really hope not all right, but
53:17
last and. Certainly not least we have Zoe,
53:21
who is the main rapper in Magne of Huntrig's.
53:26
She is Korean American from Burbank and Wheels Throwing
53:30
Knives or Shin Kao, voiced by Jiang Yu.
53:34
And the singing voice is Ray AMI.
53:38
And can I mention I'm just going to mention it now.
53:40
It's funny because when I was watching this, like they say in
53:43
the movie, she's the mockney of the group.
53:44
And I'm like, do the American audience know what a mockney is?
53:48
Because they don't explain it in the movie.
53:50
They're just like she's the mockney of the group.
53:53
Time to look it up again. It it's a really smart way of
53:57
like having people look into the culture and whether it's the
54:01
culture, whether it's in K pop. Because if you're getting
54:04
introduced to K pop, you very quickly Start learning that you
54:07
have the hyungs and then you have the magnet lines.
54:10
You know what I mean? So you Start learning a lot of
54:12
things. So no, it shouldn't be given to
54:15
you. Because it was funny too.
54:17
I actually, I came across a tweet when they were like saying
54:21
like we don't actually know these characters last name.
54:23
And like people were saying Rumi's last name is Nim from
54:26
when she went to the doctor's office.
54:28
And like, I'm glad people were in their comments like
54:31
correcting them. They're like Nim isn't
54:33
honorific. That's not actually her last
54:35
name. So it's just you know, little
54:37
things like that's where I didn't even know when I first
54:39
got into K Pop that I end up learning later on.
54:41
So it's just like a way of highly polite way of like
54:45
referring to her as like, you know, either Mr. or Misses so.
54:48
Yeah, again, we all had to learn one way or another getting into
54:53
the world of K pop. OK, so everybody else has to
54:55
too. So not saying that it needs to
54:58
be difficult for them to learn, but if you want to do the
55:00
research, you can do the research.
55:03
That's all. Also, Zoe's my favorite.
55:07
Zoe's very cute. Zoe's actually the one where if
55:10
Alexa did get this part, I can see her playing her in some way.
55:13
I was actually envisioning her as Zoe.
55:16
So back to Zoe's weapon. The Shin Kao or Spirit knife is
55:23
used in a good to fight evil spirits.
55:27
I will come back once again to good later on in the film.
55:32
It's a summonable dagger, echoing the real life ritual
55:36
where shamans cast a knife towards evil, then reclaim it to
55:39
restore spiritual balance. The actress Yong Yu most recent
55:44
projects before the film were Until Dawn and ATV miniseries
55:48
called Expat. And then Ray AMI is a musician
55:53
under the indie pop category. Her latest EP is called Shush
55:57
that came out in 2023 and I actually shared one of her songs
56:02
on our new thing we're trying on social media, the Music Monday
56:05
thing. So I like her EP Hopefully this
56:08
gives her enough like attention to make more music.
56:11
I actually really enjoy her music.
56:13
It's like a grungier pop version if you like someone like BB.
56:17
So if people know who BB is just a more like grungier version of
56:22
pop. I think this will be a really
56:24
good thing for not only the the actors, the voice actors, but
56:30
also for like the musicians that are in here.
56:33
I guess we'll help them out. So I agree and then each member
56:39
are wearing a traditional Korean pendant on their clothes called
56:43
a naughty gay which is usually worn by Korean woman on their
56:46
humbug to represent good luck, prosperity and or protection
56:50
depending on the pendants design.
56:53
All righty so let's get on to the demon boys our Saja boys.
56:58
So Saja boy's name actually comes from the Korean word Jong
57:02
Sung Saja which are Koreans versions of the Grim Reaper also
57:07
known as messenger of death or death angels.
57:11
They escort souls both good and bad, from the physical world to
57:14
the netherworld, enforce the law, and maintain order for the
57:20
deceased. Unlike the single Grim Reaper
57:23
and Western lore, the Jong Sung Saja are class of a spectacle
57:28
bureaucrats responsible for this task.
57:31
They embody cultural beliefs about death and the transition
57:34
to the afterlife. They are traditionally depicted
57:38
as imposing figures dressed entirely in black, adored in
57:41
Hunbook with a wide brimmed Black Hat known as a got to add
57:47
their authoritative presence. The Jung Sung Saja is also
57:53
commonly depicted as a male figure with pale complexion and
57:57
sunken eyes. And saja also means lion, so
58:01
that's why their representative animal in the show is a lion,
58:05
which is on their light stick, and why their fandom is called
58:07
the Pride. And did it take me like maybe
58:10
two or three more watches to realize that?
58:13
Yeah. Cuz I kept wondering like, why
58:15
are they called the pride? Like why do they keep saying
58:17
join the pride? And what does like a lion have
58:20
to do with them being grim reapers?
58:22
But yeah, it was supposed to be a play on play on word for those
58:25
two meetings. Yeah, I meant to move this up.
58:28
So she is not part of the Saja boys, but I have Celine here in
58:33
here as well. I should have put her with
58:35
talking about the girls, but it's fine.
58:37
So I guess she's considered Rumi's foster with her.
58:41
Like I don't know if she officially adopted her, but she
58:43
raised her and she's a former Demon Hunter and K pop star with
58:47
Rumi's mother for the group Sunlight Sisters and she's
58:50
voiced by Eugene Kim just to mention her because she's also
58:53
plays a role. But back to the actual Saja
58:55
boys. We have our leader and
58:58
everyone's favorite who's been hard eyes all over my timeline
59:03
is Jinu. He's also a demon with the past
59:06
that haunts him. He has befriended a demon tiger
59:09
and a magpie who normally follows him around and acts as a
59:13
messenger for him. And his voice actor is Audio
59:16
Soap and his singing voice is Andrew.
59:22
Either Choi or Che because I've heard it pronounced Che as well.
59:27
Daniel Soap is a Korean actor whose latest projects were a
59:31
time called You and Business Proposal, which I didn't know he
59:34
was in Business Proposal when I first saw that.
59:37
I'm like, wait, who did he play? And then when I saw he was the
59:40
lead. I was like, yes, that's.
59:42
Why I liked you so much? Yes, yes, yes.
59:46
Oh my God, when I found out that he was the voice, I was like,
59:49
OK, now I get it because I love business proposal.
59:54
That is my absolute favorite drama and it's just, yeah, I
59:59
can. That's another one that I can
1:00:01
watch at any point. And it's funny because I came
1:00:04
across an interview that I sent you last night, Maggie talking.
1:00:08
I think she said the same thing. She said she was watching
1:00:10
Business Proposal and saw him and she was like, oh that has to
1:00:13
be or she. Got the inspiration so she was
1:00:17
very happy that he accepted to like or that he that he.
1:00:23
What's the word that I'm looking for decided that he wanted to be
1:00:26
a part of it and actually like and accepted the role kind of
1:00:31
slinking out it's it's. Fine, it's it's early for us.
1:00:34
It's OK because I also led me to find out he's Korean Canadian as
1:00:40
well. I guess he moved to Canada when
1:00:41
he was younger, then moved back to Korea around like 17 or so
1:00:45
because fun fact again, allegedly.
1:00:47
I'm going off what I found there.
1:00:50
Apparently he was supposed to be.
1:00:53
He has trained to be AK Pop Idol as well is what I found out and
1:00:58
allegedly didn't debut on the account of being too tall
1:01:02
allegedly. That's what I said.
1:01:04
He's 63 apparently because guess what group he would have been in
1:01:08
that I was seeing online? What group got 7?
1:01:13
He was one of the contestants apparently.
1:01:15
Again, I I need to do more research to make sure this is
1:01:19
true, but apparently. That's what I.
1:01:21
Said. Over like.
1:01:23
Why does that? Matter.
1:01:24
I'm like isn't Yugi up like 6 + 6 one and so is Bam Bale.
1:01:29
Yeah, I was going to say like, what do you mean?
1:01:32
I don't know, yeah. Have we not seen how tall some
1:01:36
of these fucking younger ones are?
1:01:38
Anyways, you know what it's. Stupid is like from TXT to I'm
1:01:43
like why? Nikki Tall and hyphen.
1:01:48
He's the tallest one and he's the youngest one.
1:01:50
He's only what, 2120212020 and he's like 6263.
1:02:00
But I know, is it Nikki Japanese though, right?
1:02:03
He's not Korean. Is he OK?
1:02:05
No, But still, it's just funny because I do remember, yeah, I
1:02:08
remember coming off like Tik toks of like, you know, Korean
1:02:10
Americans. I followed even they were saying
1:02:13
like how this newer generation for some reason Koreans are
1:02:15
getting like taller. OK I'm corrected.
1:02:18
Nikki is 6 foot still. He's still in the six foot like
1:02:23
range though. Exactly.
1:02:25
Like what is the difference between how tall is he what 63?
1:02:30
How tall is like I don't understand why, why?
1:02:35
Why does that matter? Or was it because you were so
1:02:37
tall at a young age? Anyways, whatever.
1:02:39
This is a different era, OK? Remember, if he debuted, he
1:02:43
would have debuted around like 2000 because Goth 7 debuted in
1:02:46
2014. So times have changed in that
1:02:51
aspect. Thankfully.
1:02:54
You know what? We've been doing a lot of
1:02:58
research during this. Hang on, he's 30/19/95.
1:03:06
He was. He's 6/2.
1:03:08
I guess it depends on how how tall he was when he was young.
1:03:12
Maybe that's why. I don't, I don't know.
1:03:15
Because you have to remember to, and I hate that this is going to
1:03:19
come out of my mouth right now, but the boyish looks is what
1:03:26
every record label was looking for when it came to debuting.
1:03:31
So obviously, like if you're super tall at a young age, like,
1:03:34
OK, I, I see where they're coming from.
1:03:37
I don't agree with it, but whatever.
1:03:40
Anyways. Like I said, Lala, this is about
1:03:44
like 10 plus years ago. So anyway, he found a career in
1:03:50
acting. That's all that matters.
1:03:53
Drew. Yes Boy.
1:03:54
Andrew. Andrew Che, which I guess is his
1:03:59
American name because I also came across the name Che Soong
1:04:03
Kyun. So he's a Korean singer and
1:04:06
composer signed under SM and he's a soloist.
1:04:09
So like his first and really only album came Outback in 2013
1:04:13
called Love Was Enough. But he has songwriting credits
1:04:17
on songs like NCTS, Whiplash, Tamens, Guess Who, and Monsta X
1:04:21
Disaster. And I know there was other songs
1:04:24
too, but those are just the ones I wrote down.
1:04:26
And then also his companions Tiger and the Magpie, which the
1:04:32
Tiger's name is Derpy and I don't know how to pronounce the
1:04:36
is it's sussy. I think they were saying sussy.
1:04:40
That's how you pronounce the bird's name.
1:04:42
I think that's how he was pronounced.
1:04:43
I think that's how it was being pronounced in the movie too.
1:04:46
OK, I just wanted to make sure. But they're both based off of
1:04:51
minwa, which is the style of Korean folk art like popular
1:04:55
during the Jones dynasty with the hojachto genres specializing
1:05:01
in images of tigers, Magpies, and pine trees.
1:05:04
And I know again, I've linked everything, but I believe that
1:05:07
era was special because it was the first time like regular
1:05:11
common folks was able to get into like the arts and not just
1:05:16
like higher Lords. It's it's more political than I
1:05:19
really realized it was. So again, I have a bunch of
1:05:22
links y'all can look into if you're really interested.
1:05:24
But and there's a famous like picture you'll see in one of the
1:05:28
links that like you can tell looks like derpy and sussy.
1:05:32
So derpies bright blue hue also was like to give him a more
1:05:37
magical feel. And so he didn't come off as a
1:05:40
sidekick. That's why they gave him the
1:05:42
role of like being sort of like a mailbox between the two
1:05:45
characters to communicate and the bird just follows him
1:05:48
around. All right.
1:05:49
And then the rest of the members we have romance Saja, who was
1:05:53
voiced by Joel Kim Booster and and sung by Samuel Lee.
1:06:00
Mystery Saja was voiced by Alan Lee and sung by Kevin Wu, who we
1:06:06
also have someone who used to be in the K pop industry.
1:06:09
He used to be in a boy group called You Kiss ABS or Abby's
1:06:13
Voice by Songun Cho. And the singing voice is neck
1:06:18
wave baby Saja, because I didn't realize he don't talk at all.
1:06:22
But his, you know, singing slash rapping voice is by Danny, I
1:06:27
think. Spell check.
1:06:28
I believe it's Chong Chong. Yeah, yes.
1:06:33
And Bobby was voiced by Bobby is not part of the Saja boys after
1:06:38
baby Saja, that's all the Saja boys.
1:06:40
Bobby, who was the manager of the Huntrix, is voiced by Ken
1:06:45
Jeong. Yes, it's very, very famous.
1:06:47
When you actually see him, he's been in a lot of things, feel
1:06:51
like most famously maybe the Hungo, The Hangover.
1:06:54
Yes, The Hangover and then obviously the biggest like I
1:06:58
don't want to call it reality show, but like music competition
1:07:02
would be mask singer. I think that's what it's.
1:07:05
Also derived from the Korean reality show Mask Singer where
1:07:10
they got it from. So yes.
1:07:13
And I know that one TV show I think it's called like Community
1:07:16
or something like that. He's been in a lot of things.
1:07:19
He he and he'll also disappear in movies and stuff, so I'm sure
1:07:22
y'all have seen him. Yes, yeah, yes.
1:07:25
He comes in also whenever. He wants, yeah, pretty much.
1:07:28
But he makes so much money, so it's fine.
1:07:30
Yeah. And then last but certainly not
1:07:33
least, we have our main villain, who is Guimao, the demon King.
1:07:38
The big fire corrupts humanity. He's voiced by a Byong Kyun, who
1:07:43
is a well known Korean actor. Currently right now, he's
1:07:47
featured in Squid Games as the front man listed Mr. Sunshine
1:07:51
and many more Korean and American films.
1:07:54
Because I believe I saw credits of some Marvel films as well
1:07:57
that he was in that I didn't realize.
1:07:59
But then, fun fact too, he also voices Guima in the Korean
1:08:01
version of this movie. Nice.
1:08:04
Okay, yeah, so he does both, all right, y'all.
1:08:07
So that is basically like I was gonna say history.
1:08:11
Reduction to the characters and basically the background of the
1:08:15
creation of the movie. Thank you, Lala.
1:08:19
So this is when we're going to actually get into the movie
1:08:22
movie. So if again, if you have not
1:08:24
seen it, turn us off now. Go watch this movie and then
1:08:28
come back or if you just want to listen to us and listen to our
1:08:33
opinions and plot points, you can.
1:08:36
But also go still watch this movie.
1:08:38
Such a. Good movie so please do watch it
1:08:41
you will enjoy it. I mean, honestly, yeah, it's
1:08:45
just your basic people that just hate everything when they're
1:08:47
talking about like, oh, this is just cheesy because it's for
1:08:49
kids, the music sucks. And then like they're saying
1:08:52
like it's a bad representation of like K pop blah blah blah.
1:08:55
And my only opinion is it's just those people that just hate fun.
1:09:00
Yeah, pretty much. But at the same time, like some
1:09:02
people might be hesitant because I think you said you were
1:09:04
hesitant to watch it. Yes, and that's just because,
1:09:07
you know, especially in the West.
1:09:09
And how has K pop gotten so popular?
1:09:11
Anything labeled K Pop as AK pop listener in the West where it's
1:09:15
still people know about it, but it's still stigmatized and we're
1:09:19
not going to pretend it's not. So anything that has AK pop
1:09:22
label, we automatically assume like it's just people making fun
1:09:26
of it or like doing the most stereotypical like satire of K
1:09:31
pop in the world. So I was hesitant and it's look
1:09:35
like you. I think it took Gina and it took
1:09:38
my friend Brianna to finally text me be like, have you seen K
1:09:41
Pop Demon Hunter? I was like, Oh my God, I'll
1:09:43
finally watch this. Fine.
1:09:46
It's the same thing with Sen cuz Sen like went into the group
1:09:49
chat, into the group chat that I have and she's all like, OK,
1:09:53
what the hell is this? Like is it good?
1:09:56
I literally I was like, girl, you need to watch it.
1:09:58
Like you need to watch it right now.
1:10:01
Like it's so good. Like it's not the cheesy shit
1:10:05
that you think it would be. Like watch it, you're going to
1:10:08
enjoy it. I'm like the message and the
1:10:10
meaning behind it is really good.
1:10:12
I'm like, and the music is a bop.
1:10:14
Like you will walk away like wanting to jam out to the music
1:10:19
so. All right, so we're going to go
1:10:21
ahead and open up the movie with a crowd and a ginormous stadium
1:10:25
chanting the name Huntrix. During this we also get a
1:10:29
voiceover of a woman that we later will learn is Celine,
1:10:33
giving a brief history about how the Huntrix came to be and their
1:10:36
secret identity. So I have a direct quote from
1:10:41
the movie. So she says.
1:10:42
Demons have always haunted our world, stealing our souls and
1:10:46
channeling strength back to the King Guima until heroes rose to
1:10:50
defeat to defend us. Born with voices that can drive
1:10:54
back the darkness, singing songs of courage and hope, the Hunters
1:10:58
are more than warriors. Our music ignites the soul and
1:11:00
brings people together. With this connection, the first
1:11:03
Hunters created a shield to protect our world, the Han Moon.
1:11:07
Every generation, a new trio is chosen to fulfill our ultimate
1:11:12
duty. A barrier so strong that is in
1:11:15
impenchable. Yes, that's the word that will
1:11:19
keep David Zincuima from our world forever.
1:11:22
A golden honeymoon. And then after that, we switch
1:11:25
over to Celine, telling them the story toward new trio Rumi, Mira
1:11:30
and Zoe and how it's their turn to carry on this duty and it is
1:11:34
their duty and voices that will create the Golden Hong Moon.
1:11:39
And where Celine is telling the story to our new hunters and the
1:11:42
audience is in front of a sacred tree or the Dangsan Namu.
1:11:47
So there's actually many forms of like sticker shrines and
1:11:50
places and Korea and therefore communities, periodic rituals
1:11:55
for protection, prosperity and a good harvest.
1:11:57
Now, I don't know if it's like that in today's time because of,
1:12:00
you know, like modern day and all that.
1:12:02
But back then it was not really sure about now, just because,
1:12:05
you know, obviously don't live in Korea.
1:12:08
The spirit trees are distinguished by having a left
1:12:11
twisted straw rope, which is called a gum troll, and they
1:12:16
signify sacred nature. Often festoon with straps or
1:12:20
with stripes of white Mulberry paper, white cloth, or streamers
1:12:25
of five colored cloth. Just also referenced as the old
1:12:30
SEC tone. I have a feeling that they still
1:12:33
have certain. Areas like this, yeah.
1:12:36
Like, I've seen the dramas, Yeah.
1:12:38
I've seen the dramas of, like, especially these trees, Like,
1:12:41
they're still up, obviously, and I never knew what they were for,
1:12:45
but now I do. So I just don't know if people
1:12:48
still go to them to like, you know, do rituals or prey and
1:12:52
things of that nature. I'm maybe in like, smaller
1:12:55
towns. I wouldn't be surprised.
1:12:56
Like, not big cities, you know? I think either people in like
1:13:00
smaller towns or people that are still like the older generation,
1:13:06
I can see that still doing that right and teaching or trying to
1:13:11
teach like the younger generations to do that because
1:13:14
it's something traditional. And I don't know if we want to
1:13:17
say religious, but it's spiritual nonetheless.
1:13:21
It's spiritual. Because there's a lot of, well,
1:13:24
especially now because again, moderation, war, colonialism,
1:13:29
all that. There's different religions in
1:13:31
Korea. I do know a majority of them
1:13:35
don't have a religion. Most of the charts I found says
1:13:38
like 51%. Yeah I guess you considered
1:13:41
atheist. So they don't really believe in
1:13:43
any type of religion. I believe the second highest one
1:13:46
is Christianity for the things I mentioned earlier.
1:13:49
And then of course, like Buddhism is a big one, and I
1:13:52
think Buddhism and Shamanism is separate and Confucianism, I
1:14:00
always mispronounce that because confusion, confusionism was
1:14:04
really big back in the Jones dynasty.
1:14:08
So I mean that that whole thing could be a whole separate
1:14:11
episode. But yeah, those are things I can
1:14:13
remember off the top of my head from like previous research of
1:14:16
like discussions we've had and things of that nature.
1:14:18
And also just for looking this up as well when it came to like
1:14:21
the religion and spirituality, because I'll bring that up too,
1:14:26
just because some from talks online, you can tell we're
1:14:30
looking at it at a Western lens and like our backgrounds of our
1:14:35
specific religions, especially like Christianity compared to
1:14:39
what the spirituality of this is based on due to like the Korean
1:14:44
history. So all right, so we are back to
1:14:47
the stadium for the Huntrick's final show of the world Tour.
1:14:51
We have fans, you know, introducing each member, talking
1:14:54
about them, their roles in the group, why certain fans have a
1:14:57
specific member as their favorite or you know what we
1:15:01
call them in the K pop world, biases and how they're sad that
1:15:05
this is the last concert before they take a three month break,
1:15:08
but they're excited for them and they need the break.
1:15:12
That's that's one part where I was like, oh, this is fantasy.
1:15:18
Listen, I don't know how many people actually be like, Oh
1:15:22
yeah, they need a break. They really needed to compare to
1:15:25
were like they're demanding music every like 2 to three
1:15:28
months. So that's why I was like, I, I
1:15:31
So this is the first part where I was like, OK, so this is the
1:15:33
fiction part. Got it.
1:15:37
I mean. Can we really say that though?
1:15:39
Because like, there's still like a really good amount like us and
1:15:44
Discord and everything like that agree that certain groups need
1:15:47
to like freaking take a break. Yes, but I don't know how that's
1:15:51
like for the majority is what I'm saying.
1:15:53
I also don't know what it's like for Korea and their mindset when
1:15:56
it comes to comebacks like that either.
1:15:58
So especially I see it on a Western side, Yeah, I don't know
1:16:02
what it's like for the Korean side and hoop like the majority
1:16:05
of minority when it comes to things like that.
1:16:08
Yeah, I could see that. So that's why I make the joke of
1:16:12
like, oh, so that's. That's the fiction part of
1:16:15
saying like. Oh well, they're going on a
1:16:16
three months break but they really deserve it and we're
1:16:18
going to miss them because we think like that.
1:16:20
I don't know how many other people think like that, but the
1:16:24
show was about to start in literal minutes and their
1:16:26
manager Bobby notices that the girls aren't there yet.
1:16:29
Which another thing I was like so y'all are going to wear no
1:16:33
dress rehearsal? No like OK we're going to start
1:16:37
the show in a few minutes and the girls aren't even there.
1:16:40
Cool. Never happened in real life.
1:16:43
But he pulls out his phone. And also another thing, they
1:16:46
have their own private jet. Like how rich are they?
1:16:50
I mean, they've been doing it for three years at least from
1:16:53
what it says in the movies, but to.
1:16:55
Real groups don't even have private but you were their
1:16:59
groups name. I know, I know, I'm blurring the
1:17:02
lines between animation and real life.
1:17:04
I'm just saying no. No, no, no, no, no.
1:17:06
It's not even that. It's more or less like.
1:17:08
You also have to remember that these three girls are demon
1:17:12
hunters and it happens every generation, so I'm pretty sure
1:17:15
there's a certain wealth that gets put into.
1:17:18
Place It's just wild to me though how it's displayed the
1:17:22
world because I've never seen anyone have like their own again
1:17:24
private jet with literally the logo of the group on there.
1:17:28
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So but he notices their jet is
1:17:33
going in the opposite direction of the stadium.
1:17:36
So then he Facetimes roomies to let them know that they're off
1:17:39
course. And then obviously while they're
1:17:41
having their pre show, what do they call it?
1:17:44
Not the pre show ramen, but like they're just having their pre
1:17:46
show snacking, indulging. They realize that the plane has
1:17:50
been hijacked by demons and they're trying to eat their fans
1:17:54
souls. So that's how we get our first
1:17:56
song, how it's done during the fight scene with the demons on
1:17:59
the plane destroying their custom made private jet.
1:18:02
And that is one of my favorite scenes, like having them free
1:18:04
fall into the stadium and then finish off there.
1:18:08
And it's funny how like everyone believes like the debits and
1:18:11
then free falling was like special effects.
1:18:13
Yeah, Oh my gosh, yes. That girl who took a picture
1:18:19
with the demon, she's like great costume but then like took a
1:18:21
picture with him. So cute.
1:18:25
And the creator always mentions his two in interviews.
1:18:28
But it really was nice to like see women, especially women and
1:18:32
K Pop as two people who have been aware of the industry for a
1:18:36
while and just know how it is like just to see them again,
1:18:39
like E indulge when the demons was like talking to them, they
1:18:44
were like burping and stuff. So it's just like actually be
1:18:47
human, human beings. One of them said like in order
1:18:51
to do this dance, they have to indulge at least 10,000
1:18:54
calories. I've never heard that before.
1:18:56
It's usually the opposite of how many calories they have to lose.
1:18:59
So it was just really nice to see that.
1:19:03
And I don't know too if you notice on their pre show ramen
1:19:07
obviously they each have their own like ramen for them.
1:19:11
You notice Zoes had an American hat on it like Uncle Sam.
1:19:16
She's American. Go back and watch it and look at
1:19:20
the ramen cub like she has a very old fashioned those really
1:19:23
high American flag hats on her because she's American.
1:19:28
Oh my. God, but.
1:19:29
They do shit like that. So I thought that was like a
1:19:32
nice detail. Yeah.
1:19:34
It was just funny to me, like how when they were introducing
1:19:37
her, one of the fans was like, she's from some place called
1:19:41
Burbank, CA. I don't even think they said
1:19:47
California. You just say Burbank.
1:19:50
It would be funny Burbank. Like some from some.
1:19:53
Burbank. He's called Burbank so.
1:19:58
Funny, they hit, they hit a lot of things like and I remember
1:20:03
cuz when you were watching it, I had told you, I need your live
1:20:07
reactions. You need to send me until you
1:20:09
did. And they did.
1:20:11
They really did their research. I'm like, how certain?
1:20:15
Fans react. And I do think I saw somewhere
1:20:17
that they did actually like go to Korea, especially for like
1:20:20
the set, like to get certain places that they were in like
1:20:24
accurate. But like I feel like they went
1:20:26
beyond too to like get reactions, K pop reactions,
1:20:29
things like that. So once again, they did their
1:20:32
research. Yeah, they did.
1:20:33
They really did. So the the demon that was
1:20:36
disguised as a flight attendant ended up getting away and so she
1:20:40
goes back to the underworld. She's terrified, but she lets
1:20:43
Quema know that the hundreds got away and that they're just too
1:20:46
strong, upsetting him and setting her on fire, which
1:20:50
killed her. While the demons are in despair,
1:20:53
we hear the strum of an instrument and the voice of a
1:20:55
male basically giving like a rhyme and song tale about the
1:20:59
king. Could we later find out his
1:21:00
name? Gino.
1:21:01
So this is where we first meet Gino.
1:21:04
He proposes the idea to start a new strategy, the feeding the
1:21:07
hunters by using the one thing that powers the Hong Moon, the
1:21:10
fans. What or whatever that sound is.
1:21:15
Man the people I see on TikTok recreating that is so funny.
1:21:20
Oh God, you know that certain idols are doing it now too.
1:21:24
Oh my God. I've seen so many boy groups do
1:21:28
that, it's cute. It is.
1:21:31
It's so funny though. At first, the demon king laughs
1:21:35
at the idea of a demon boy band, but once, like, the other saja
1:21:38
boys basically transform into beautiful men.
1:21:42
And the other demons are like, oh, yeah, this could work.
1:21:44
Yeah, this could totally work. And then he's like, OK, so maybe
1:21:47
this could work. But he also acts as Gina What?
1:21:50
He wants to return, claiming that he never does anything for
1:21:52
free. And they make a deal that if
1:21:54
this is successful, the demon king will remove Gina's memories
1:21:57
of his regret when he was a human.
1:22:00
And also I just wanted to point out because I don't know if you
1:22:02
know this Lala, but that scene when he Gino was singing that
1:22:06
actually is on. He also singing.
1:22:08
That's the only time he actually, yeah, like sings in
1:22:10
the movie. And the rest of the time it's
1:22:12
Andrew Che. So plus who he.
1:22:16
Yeah, you can tell. Yeah, you can tell.
1:22:19
It's a different voice, Yeah. Cuz like it wasn't.
1:22:22
And I think the second time that I watched it, or maybe even the
1:22:25
first time I even noticed, I'm like, that's, that's a different
1:22:29
voice that's singing right there.
1:22:30
And that's for all of them, for all the characters, because
1:22:32
obviously we know that it's different voices from the acting
1:22:35
perspective, from the singing perspective.
1:22:37
So. And I have it LinkedIn the
1:22:41
description box too. But he actually did also do like
1:22:44
a really short minute cover of Free, so he is a good singer.
1:22:47
I do wish this part where he's singing about the Demon King.
1:22:50
And there were some other songs too that I do wish were in the
1:22:53
soundtrack. Me too, but I don't think they
1:22:55
made them long enough which is why and they just didn't bother
1:22:59
to like continue the song to put it onto the.
1:23:02
Yeah. But I mean, I feel like there
1:23:03
are some movie soundtracks where they still use just put them in
1:23:06
there even if they're like 30 seconds long.
1:23:09
I don't know. Yeah, it would have been nice
1:23:11
though, because then you would have literally gotten the entire
1:23:14
soundtrack from the entire movie.
1:23:16
So then you can picture each scene as it's happening, because
1:23:19
at least that's what I do with. Yeah, that's literally what I do
1:23:22
with The Nightmare Before Christmas.
1:23:24
I actually can listen to the entire soundtrack and I know
1:23:27
exactly what scene it's at. Because I also wish that music
1:23:32
that was used when the soundtrack boys were introduced
1:23:34
was in the soundtrack. One of them is, but that one we
1:23:39
first see the four boys. Yeah, yeah.
1:23:42
I wish that song was in the soundtrack, whether if it was
1:23:45
that short or if it was long term.
1:23:48
So when the Huntrix comes down from the stage, they celebrate
1:23:51
seeing the whole moon slightly turned golden, which while they
1:23:55
were singing. And then, you know, they get
1:23:56
excited about that but also get excited by their break, which
1:24:00
they said a two week break, though I wrote down to week
1:24:04
break and the girl said three months.
1:24:08
Well, if you really think about it now, let's think of it
1:24:11
logically. Yes, the group itself for fans
1:24:15
can take a three month break, but the idols might only take a
1:24:19
two week break and then having to start working again to have
1:24:23
everything up and running within the three month window.
1:24:26
So we might think the idols might be taking a three month
1:24:28
break, but technically they might not be.
1:24:30
And then you have also like the advertisement that do you know
1:24:36
other things that they have to work on on like the side as
1:24:40
well? Any promotions that they have to
1:24:42
do? So you're right, you're right.
1:24:45
I didn't think about that until after I asked that and then you
1:24:47
started saying it. But we've been proofing time and
1:24:49
time, especially in real life too, how that's the case.
1:24:51
So also make sure you pay attention to when they do go
1:24:58
backstage and they're in the elevator going down.
1:25:01
I also want to know how big the stadium is.
1:25:03
Roomie does have a short spat where she's coughing, so that's
1:25:08
going to become very important later on.
1:25:12
So then when we get back to their place, I also enjoy just a
1:25:15
tad bit, not in the notes when Bobby was like, oh, I rented out
1:25:19
this hotel for you guys to relax it.
1:25:21
And she's like, oh, it's fine. We're just going to relax at
1:25:24
home. But why don't you take the hotel
1:25:26
room? Bobby?
1:25:26
He's like, Oh no, I can never. I'm a 34 short in a robe.
1:25:32
It's just like, it's just like little things like that that I
1:25:35
really enjoy. Yeah, yeah.
1:25:38
No, Bobby. Bobby.
1:25:40
I love their relationship. Like everyone I've been seeing
1:25:43
lately, everyone's been like, oh, Bobby's like their father
1:25:46
figure in their life. And it really is because he
1:25:49
loves and supports them. So, yeah, yeah.
1:25:53
And also to the creators, I think a couple days ago had like
1:25:58
AQ and A on Reddit. So I did see Maggie's say that
1:26:04
she envisions Rumi and Mira to be between like 23 and 24, with
1:26:10
Rumi being older by like 6 months.
1:26:12
And then, you know, Zoe's the youngest, so probably at like
1:26:14
22. So these are young girls, but
1:26:16
they're like in their early 20s, which makes sense if again,
1:26:19
they've been doing this for about 3 to five years, I
1:26:22
believe. Three years publicly is the way
1:26:25
that I see it. So again, Bobby's been in their
1:26:28
life for a very long time, which is what normally happens with
1:26:31
managers. Yeah.
1:26:33
So all. Right.
1:26:34
So then we get to them in their apartment, which I know a lot of
1:26:37
people in K Pop refers to like the dorm, but they're really
1:26:41
just like places the groups live together.
1:26:43
And then we see Zoe and Mira get super excited about the couch.
1:26:46
We got our new thing. Couch, couch, couch, couch,
1:26:48
couch. You know what's so funny?
1:26:51
If you Google K Pop demon hunters on.
1:26:54
Comes up. Yeah, it comes up.
1:26:56
I saw that this. Morning Couch Couch.
1:26:58
Couch. Couch couch in their bathrobes
1:27:03
and they have like 2 weeks worth of snacks and food so they don't
1:27:07
have to move unless they have to like go to the bathroom.
1:27:10
Meanwhile, roomie is being sneaky and she's like, oh, so
1:27:15
you know the whole new started turning gold.
1:27:17
Let's speed up this process. So she goes down to where they
1:27:20
have like all of these costumes picks out her costume and then
1:27:24
on her phone sneakly releases their new song golden and tells
1:27:28
them like hey guys so it's time to get back to work.
1:27:31
And then we get that hilarious scene where she's like, slowly
1:27:35
rises from behind the couch. As soon as they sat down, she's
1:27:37
like, hey, guys, did you enjoy your break?
1:27:39
And Mira is like, we just sat down, what are you talking
1:27:42
about? And then it reels her costume,
1:27:45
and they both look at her like, roomie, what did you do not tell
1:27:49
me? You release the song.
1:27:50
It comes out tonight, Yeah. I'm like, no, no couchy time.
1:27:57
And then and then poor Zoe, when Bobby came in, she's like, we
1:28:02
didn't get couchy time. But apparently Bobby was ready
1:28:06
because he also had his promotional golden outfit on
1:28:09
when he told them it was. Friendly.
1:28:13
Yeah. I don't know.
1:28:14
Sometimes I feel like that does happen it.
1:28:17
Probably does. I just, I have a feeling that
1:28:20
that does happen. I do have a question for you
1:28:22
though. It's going to be a very silly
1:28:23
question. And this is also for everyone
1:28:25
that's listening. Any time that you have a moment
1:28:28
that you know that you're going to chill and you're just going
1:28:31
to either watch movies, watch shows, or whatever, sit on the
1:28:34
couch. How long does your snacks
1:28:36
actually last? We'll see.
1:28:37
Because I don't bring my snacks with me.
1:28:40
I like, that's a hard question for me because sometimes I get
1:28:43
so engrossed in things. Unfortunately, I am a person who
1:28:46
forgets to eat something that day until I'm starving.
1:28:49
I'm like, you know what? Maybe I should get up and eat
1:28:50
something. So do you mean snacks I bring
1:28:54
with me or like if I, let's say I have a bag of chips in like
1:28:57
the cabinet and then like how long it takes me to finish that
1:29:00
bag of chips, Is that what you mean?
1:29:02
Yeah. I mean what it is because if
1:29:05
it's something I really, really enjoy, it can be like a few days
1:29:08
like unfortunately I'm going to expose myself like I bought
1:29:11
myself like a little mini cake. I'm also a person where like I
1:29:15
go through this really bad habit to where like I try to go so
1:29:19
long without sweets and then when I introduce it back I'm
1:29:22
like, that's all I want to. Eat Gene.
1:29:24
Yeah. Yeah, so like I was able to
1:29:26
finish a very small cake by myself within three days, which
1:29:30
you can judge me as much as you want, okay?
1:29:33
Girl, I was gonna say you do a lot better than we do because
1:29:35
like when me and Krista decided to like have we're just chilling
1:29:39
this weekend. We're not doing anything.
1:29:41
We plan to do our groceries on Friday and we get all our
1:29:45
weekend snacks right? Including the snacks that are
1:29:48
meant to last us for like 2 weeks.
1:29:50
Yeah, almost everything is like gone by.
1:29:53
Like it's gone Saturday night. Oh yeah, I've done that.
1:29:58
Before, yeah, when I saw the girls and like how you just said
1:30:02
they had so many snacks for their next two weeks, I look, I
1:30:06
the picture came into my head and I'm like, yeah, that was not
1:30:09
going to last them two weeks. That would have been gone the
1:30:12
next day if they actually was able to take a break.
1:30:15
If they decided to go to sleep, that too didn't decide to go to
1:30:19
sleep that night, that stuff would have been gone.
1:30:21
It would. Have been gone in the morning.
1:30:23
Yeah, exactly. And see again, this is something
1:30:27
we can relate to as women. Like this is the real side,
1:30:30
guys. We're not all pretty and
1:30:32
pristine. And you know, this is the real
1:30:35
us. I, I, I have yet to meet someone
1:30:38
that doesn't enjoy, like a woman that doesn't enjoy eating in
1:30:42
some formal way, you know? Yeah, we all love to snack.
1:30:46
Honestly, just give us food. We'll be happy.
1:30:49
Exactly. Like, so much can be solved.
1:30:52
It's so much can be solved if we have food in our system.
1:30:56
Like, we won't be as grumpy. And that's our fault too,
1:31:01
because we'd be trying to do so much and just run on coffee and
1:31:04
have no food. So if we actually just, you
1:31:06
know, give us coffee and some food, then we're fine guys.
1:31:08
We're chill. Exactly.
1:31:11
Easy fix. So Golden gets released with the
1:31:14
countdown and the song, you know, is about their past and
1:31:17
securities, but you know, like how they can come together
1:31:20
stronger together like gold. And like obviously this is about
1:31:24
them secretly being hunters that they will succeed in turning the
1:31:27
Hong Moon Gold. That's just me.
1:31:29
I'm sure you picked up on that as well.
1:31:31
Like to call a song Golden? Yeah.
1:31:35
So we do, you know, get like kind of a montage and glimpse of
1:31:39
the music video, golden fans watching it.
1:31:42
And through that as well, we get like the girls giving an
1:31:44
interview about the song during the song to kind of getting into
1:31:48
the bridge. We kind of get like this scene
1:31:50
of panning from the studio, Mira and Zoe sharing a green room.
1:31:56
And then we see Rumi actually has a private one all by
1:31:58
herself, which again, usually in K pop groups, they all just have
1:32:01
one. There's no like one specific
1:32:04
star among the others. But again, it's a movie.
1:32:07
It also goes into like the Western thing because I, I feel
1:32:10
like you can tie into like how we view groups and we're always
1:32:13
like, you know, this one member is the breakout star.
1:32:16
You know, it's a tale as old as time.
1:32:18
So yeah, yes. But she's in her own private
1:32:21
room basically getting ready for the viewing.
1:32:24
And even within the song, when she's singing about like hiding,
1:32:28
takes off her jacket and it actually reveals to everyone
1:32:31
that she has the same purple markings on her arm as the
1:32:35
demons that they were fighting on the plane, revealing that
1:32:38
Rumi is part demon plot. Twist I did wonder about that.
1:32:45
Like when I first seen it I was all like is she part demon or
1:32:50
did something happen that she became a demon or is becoming a
1:32:54
demon? I should have known, but I
1:32:56
wasn't expecting it because I I had no expectations going into
1:32:59
this movie The first time I watched it.
1:33:00
So it was actually a surprise for me.
1:33:01
I'm like, OK, so we're doing the half demon thing.
1:33:04
Good, good. I liked how they revealed it to
1:33:06
like through the song. It was very a smart choice to
1:33:11
them because like until that part, it made me like realize
1:33:14
like, oh shit, she's always covering, you know, her arms and
1:33:17
her neck because that's what the marks are.
1:33:20
So during the rehearsal for the live TV broadcasting of the
1:33:24
show, as there's singing roomies voice arts cracking every time
1:33:27
she tries to hit the high notes in the song, she runs out to the
1:33:31
dressing room and then zips down the little shirt she's wearing
1:33:35
that goes up to her neck and sees that the marks actually are
1:33:38
starting to spread. And it's like kind of over her
1:33:40
throat a little bit. So she panics and fully runs out
1:33:43
of the studio. And then we start getting
1:33:45
flashbacks so far as little girl singing the Hunter's song about
1:33:48
how they defeat demons with their songs to protect the
1:33:51
world. In that same flashback, we get
1:33:53
Celine braiding her hair in front of what we consume, assume
1:33:56
or know now is Rumi's mother's grave.
1:33:59
Because early on, they did say that she had passed away when
1:34:02
Rumi was an infant. Little baby roomie axes Celine
1:34:06
like when she's done singing, like, do they actually kill
1:34:08
everything with a mark? And she lifts up her sleeve to
1:34:11
show that she has markings on her shoulder.
1:34:14
But at that time, it's not like all over her arms like it is as
1:34:17
she's older. So I think that it was also an
1:34:20
important plot point. It's just like on the tidbit of
1:34:22
her shoulder. But then Celine quickly tells
1:34:25
her to cover them up, saying that she's not like those other
1:34:28
demons or like her father as well and that she's more like
1:34:32
her mother who was a hunter. And then she also tells Rumi
1:34:36
that, you know, once the Hone moon is fully sealed, all the
1:34:39
demons will be gone from the world and her marks will
1:34:41
disappear as well. And then in another flashback,
1:34:45
we see that they are older and I guess what looks like Celine's
1:34:49
office. So I'm assuming maybe she's like
1:34:51
she like considered the CEO for Hunter.
1:34:54
I'm assuming that's what it looks.
1:34:55
Like I'm thinking, I feel like in every generation, whenever a
1:34:59
new trio comes out, one girl or if not all three of the women
1:35:06
that were previously the hunters helped to train the new ones
1:35:10
that are coming in, I'm going to take their spot.
1:35:13
So I feel like they're the teachers while the new ones tend
1:35:16
to be the trainees type of thing, which I wonder if that
1:35:20
like that's the situation that happens.
1:35:23
It seemed like it. And I mean, we've seen that in
1:35:26
real life too, like comedy CE OS that we know of used to be, you
1:35:29
know, like performers or an idol group.
1:35:31
So famous one is, you know, YG from YG Entertainment himself.
1:35:37
So, but in that flashback, we see Mira and Zoe are like
1:35:42
basically begging roomie to join them at a bath house.
1:35:45
And so she like covers up her shoulder.
1:35:47
I don't think they can see Rumi. I think they're like outside
1:35:50
Celine's office. And Rumi is in Celine's office
1:35:53
kind of hiding behind the wall. And she's like, you know,
1:35:56
telling them that she can't go and like maybe next time.
1:35:59
And she declines. And then mirror is always like
1:36:02
that's what she always says. But then when she comes out,
1:36:04
she's like, you know, maybe I can tell them and that they'll
1:36:07
understand. And Celine's very like demanding
1:36:09
like no, can't tell them or it shouldn't even matter until and
1:36:15
her patterns are gone, which basically reveals also to the
1:36:17
audience that Mira and Zoe do not know that she is part demon.
1:36:21
So it's basically a secret for everyone except for her and
1:36:23
Celine. All right.
1:36:24
But then we come back to the present and we see how much the
1:36:27
patterns have spread onto Rumi's arms.
1:36:29
And when she was running away, she ends up on a rooftop.
1:36:32
She's trying to sing the song but her voice keeps cracking.
1:36:36
She gets discouraged and acts out loud.
1:36:37
Like how is she supposed to save the world and fix herself?
1:36:41
Meaning like have her marks removed if she doesn't have a
1:36:43
voice. And then she lets out the most
1:36:45
frustrating scream. And like within that scream it
1:36:48
actually turns like into a demonic kind of sound for the
1:36:51
first time ever. And it actually sends like this
1:36:54
ripple of a red type wave throughout the Hong moon.
1:36:57
So then after that we see that the girls are at like a
1:37:01
restaurant trying to comfort Roomie for cancelling the live
1:37:03
show while Bobby tries to scramble to fix it.
1:37:07
Where's always like, it's fine Roomy, Bobby can handle this.
1:37:11
He calls them girls. I can't handle this.
1:37:14
Got a lot of upset fans, the studios angry, but it's fine.
1:37:17
That's why you pay me 3%. That's why I want to know how
1:37:19
rich they are, okay? We'll never get that answer,
1:37:23
but. It's fine.
1:37:24
It's fine, but Mirror also does ask a very important question of
1:37:30
why did Rumi push out gold in so early if she was having trouble
1:37:33
with her voice and Rumi says it's because they're so close to
1:37:36
turning the home of gold. You also suddenly besides the
1:37:40
main goal they all know of like see like away the demons, Rumi
1:37:43
has an alternative of like getting rid of her marks because
1:37:46
that is what she believes. So Zoe has an idea out of her 57
1:37:51
ideas to go to this Doctor Who has these specific tonics that
1:37:55
should help Rumi with her voice so that when they go out there,
1:37:59
you know, like in disguise so they won't be recognized.
1:38:01
And when they go to the office, the background people are
1:38:05
talking about like there's going to be a free concert busking and
1:38:08
then like the last thing we see is a guy acts who are the saja
1:38:11
boys? And I thought it was funny.
1:38:15
Yes Dun Dun Dun. I thought it was funny because
1:38:18
again I had the link in the description box where they did
1:38:21
like a short 5 to 6 minute video with the twice girls and they
1:38:25
were like reviewing the Huntrixes different outfits and
1:38:28
different scenes. And it was interesting when they
1:38:31
talked about the casual clothes, when even, I think it was G who,
1:38:34
Geo who was talking about how it was like, if you wanted to make
1:38:39
it more realistic, like, the girls would have been wearing
1:38:41
masks because, you know, they wear masks in Korea.
1:38:44
Yeah. And it was just like, cute
1:38:45
because one thing she had pointed out for, like, the group
1:38:48
herself twice, she was like, they get recognized more if
1:38:52
there's more than four of them because, you know, there's nine
1:38:55
and twice. So if there's too many of them,
1:38:57
it's more easy for people to recognize them than if they're,
1:39:00
like, by themselves or like, or two of them.
1:39:03
Yeah. Yeah.
1:39:05
It's a good video again people should watch it that I have
1:39:07
linked below. So the shady doctor examines
1:39:11
Rumi and tells her she has a lot of walls built up and starts
1:39:15
talking about like all these problems he sees with like Zoe
1:39:19
and Mira mainly like Rumi being a workaholic, it seems like Zoe
1:39:23
is too eager to please people and Mira just scares him.
1:39:27
And then like I was getting suspicious of the doctor so I'm
1:39:29
like so are you like a demon or something?
1:39:31
How are you? How are you doing all this?
1:39:33
But we never got further into that.
1:39:36
I also didn't list him in the introduction, but the person who
1:39:41
plays the doctor, his name is Daniel Day Kim.
1:39:44
He is also a pretty well known actor and a lot of stuff.
1:39:47
And he as well plays in the live action remake of Avatar the Last
1:39:52
Airbender. Do you know who he plays?
1:39:54
La La? No.
1:39:56
Fire Lord Ozai. That was him.
1:40:02
Oh, Yep. That is our doctor in this
1:40:05
movie. Just a little you know I.
1:40:07
Wouldn't have been able to Yeah, I wouldn't have been able to put
1:40:09
two and two together. Like if I don't go and look for
1:40:13
the information because obviously the obviously they you
1:40:16
you know, you can play with your voice.
1:40:18
So yeah, I don't I did not take him seriously as him playing the
1:40:23
doctor here. That's like I started laughing
1:40:26
when I read like you, you said shady doctor.
1:40:29
I was like, very listen. He's definitely one of those
1:40:34
doctors that just be giving you the cheapest over the counter
1:40:38
medicine saying this is a special thing for this.
1:40:41
Yeah shady shady all around. Not a real doctor, a scam.
1:40:46
Literally. Which is why it's like.
1:40:48
I don't even think he'd be a demon.
1:40:51
True. Well.
1:40:53
No, because that means that people would be dying coming out
1:40:56
of his clinic. True, you're right.
1:41:01
You're right. OK.
1:41:03
So in the end, they end up getting the tonics thanks to Zoe
1:41:06
giving him a picture of the group that he was able to glue a
1:41:09
picture of himself next to, I'm sure for business being like,
1:41:12
hey, you know, the hunt tricks or I know the hunt tricks or
1:41:15
something like that. They're endorsing me.
1:41:17
And as they're walking down like an alleyway, that is when we
1:41:20
meet the Saja boys. The very creative way of like
1:41:25
Zoe and Mira like going through phases of their eyes of like
1:41:28
seeing them and then turning into corn and then the butter
1:41:33
and then turns into popcorn when we finally see the AB just to
1:41:37
emphasize how hot they are. Girls going crazy over hot boys.
1:41:43
And then my favorite part was when Rumi looked so disgusting
1:41:46
and she started saying something to them.
1:41:48
I don't remember her exact lines but when she looks over and sees
1:41:50
Ginu I was like yes bring on the K drama scene.
1:41:53
When it slows down and he pushes his bangs out of his eyes and
1:41:59
her mouth opens and everything just freezes around them.
1:42:02
And I thought it was hilarious because they also do this in K
1:42:05
dramas when like they may slightly bump into each other
1:42:08
but then the girl like falls. Like she's been pushed 10 feet
1:42:11
away and her face when she's slowly falling.
1:42:15
God. And then we thought we were
1:42:16
going to get that they really did.
1:42:19
Thought we were going to get the normal trope of like when she
1:42:22
looks at him, he was going to offer help but then he dusts his
1:42:25
off his shoulder. Like you should watch where
1:42:26
you're going. Being a real jerk, although that
1:42:29
is also a troping K dramas too. So it could have went either
1:42:33
way. But they drove, they chose the
1:42:35
jerk way. And then I also love when they
1:42:38
start gagging over the boys where they're like they're just
1:42:41
so and he's like, no, they're actually like pretending to
1:42:44
throw up. It's like gross boys, but then
1:42:50
they start hearing music and when they go over to it, they
1:42:53
see it's the same boys that they pass busking in the streets as
1:42:57
Lala starts doing the little the dance, the shoulders while
1:43:02
performing. While performing, they do see a
1:43:06
flash of purple marks on Abby's arm and Ginu's next.
1:43:10
So they realize they're not just the boy band but a demon boy
1:43:13
band. But they can't do anything about
1:43:16
it since they're in public. And Rumi realizes quickly
1:43:20
they're trying to seduce the fans.
1:43:22
And it's working. And that's when we get in line.
1:43:27
What of your soul being I? Yeah.
1:43:30
For people who don't know, I make fun of Lala a lot when we
1:43:33
message each other. Of like, how she would be one of
1:43:36
the first Knowles, the first soul snatched.
1:43:38
OK, Yes. Yes.
1:43:40
I don't even think she would have made it to the end song.
1:43:42
I think they would have taken her soul during soda pop.
1:43:45
Yes, yes, they would have. Because like, I'm not gonna deny
1:43:49
it. I'm literally Zoe.
1:43:52
That's why I think I love Zoe too, because I'm literally Zoe.
1:43:55
Zoe just the entire time. And she lives right away.
1:43:58
Like magicians. No, no, no.
1:44:01
Demons. They're demons, by the way.
1:44:03
That is something a magician would do.
1:44:06
Yes. And she's like, maybe they're
1:44:08
nice demons, and they're like, demons aren't nice.
1:44:11
Yep, which technically I feel. Like she is the one to kick off
1:44:14
that theme. When she says maybe they're nice
1:44:17
demons. It's the first.
1:44:19
Like, I don't know what word to use.
1:44:22
Yeah. Like hints shouldn't hints,
1:44:25
yeah. Yeah, so once they're done and
1:44:28
leave. And it's also funny.
1:44:30
And the anime world where they're like, catch us on this
1:44:34
idol show and they just disappear.
1:44:36
And no one questions how they disappear, except for when Zoe
1:44:40
was like, That's yeah. Yeah, that's when Zoe was not
1:44:43
like that's by the way, that's what a magician would do like
1:44:45
yeah, cuz that is something a magician.
1:44:47
So but I mean, if you think about it, that would that would
1:44:51
pique your interest. That's the reason why they did
1:44:52
that. True.
1:44:53
Cuz if all of a sudden you're like listening to them, they're
1:44:56
dancing, they're performing, and then out of nowhere they
1:44:59
disappear. You're like, whoa, can they also
1:45:01
do magic? You know, so it piques your
1:45:04
interest again. I'm a sucker.
1:45:06
I would be the first one down. It's fine.
1:45:07
It's fine. You would.
1:45:09
It's OK. Be like rest in peace.
1:45:11
Voila, I lost her. I lost her to the Sasha boys.
1:45:16
Yeah, just put that on the headstone.
1:45:18
It's OK. Lost her to soda pop.
1:45:23
No, just put Sacha boys because OK idol.
1:45:27
Anyways, OK, let's keep going. Can I put in quotation marks?
1:45:31
Control your shoulders. Control those shoulders.
1:45:35
Yes. OK, I'm gonna put that on your
1:45:38
tombstone. Yes.
1:45:39
Anyway, so the girls get ready in battle mode.
1:45:42
And that part was so funny of them getting dressed and then
1:45:45
the nail said kill Saja. I want to know who did the cacao
1:45:50
because they were too far away when they're like let's go get
1:45:53
them cacao like. I couldn't see who which one it
1:45:56
was. I need to know who actually did
1:45:58
that because that had me dying, OK?
1:46:02
My money would be on Zoe, probably My money, probably my
1:46:06
money would be on Zoe, yeah. It was so funny.
1:46:10
But yes, they ended up going over to the variety show that
1:46:14
they're at at all. Listen, I I think sometimes
1:46:17
variety shows are way of like torture, but that's just me.
1:46:21
I don't find it enjoyable to watch people I like drink hot
1:46:25
sauce until they can't anymore. But yeah, anyway, humiliation
1:46:30
rituals, it's fine. It's fine.
1:46:32
And baby Sasha won that, of course.
1:46:36
But once they were done, Ginu had noticed them and he puts
1:46:39
them on the spot to make it easier for them to escape.
1:46:42
So that part was also funny, the way he says play games with us
1:46:47
trending. And how they wanted them to
1:46:50
slide down into the ball pit and like in, in the balls, in the
1:46:55
balls. And the leather had betrayed
1:46:57
them. Because when they're sliding
1:46:59
down, it's squeaking so much and one guy's like, make it stop.
1:47:06
They should have saw that coming.
1:47:08
It's fine. It's fine.
1:47:10
Even Zoe was like, the leather has betrayed us and the bowing
1:47:15
competition was so funny. It's like no, like breaking
1:47:18
their backs trying to bow to each other.
1:47:21
It's like it's our honour. No ours.
1:47:23
No ours, ours. Yeah.
1:47:25
And then you can hear that. Ow ow.
1:47:27
My back. And that's how you also know
1:47:31
they're not teenagers if they're complaining about their back for
1:47:33
how far they're bowing. Cowing.
1:47:38
So funny. But the boys end up running out,
1:47:40
distracted from the bowing. They've run into a bathhouse.
1:47:43
Unfortunately it is a male one, but the Huntrix follows them and
1:47:47
ends up fighting off these special water demons.
1:47:50
Now Rumi ends up running off on her own and catches up with Gino
1:47:54
in the middle of their fight. He looks at the RIP that he
1:47:57
created on her arm on the costume when they were fighting
1:48:01
and it reveals her marks which completely confuses and stuns
1:48:05
Gino because he's like how can she be a hunter and she is part
1:48:11
demon So. And then there is a moment where
1:48:13
I think one of the girls threw a demon through the wall and it
1:48:17
goes into like a really cool slow motion effect where they're
1:48:20
looking for Rumi. And then Ginu out of nowhere
1:48:24
ends up actually shielding her. Kind of looks like he's hugging
1:48:27
her. And then when he leaves, we
1:48:29
notice that during that time, like super demon speed, I'm
1:48:32
assuming he wraps a towel around her arm to cover up the marks
1:48:35
before he escapes. So when the demons finally
1:48:40
defeat or when the Huntrix finally defeats the demons that
1:48:42
are in there and they leave because the old man kicks them
1:48:45
out, we do see him start to sing soda pop and then a demon
1:48:48
appears behind and takes his soul.
1:48:52
Would have been me. That would have been Lala.
1:48:56
And then Gino is brought down to the underworld by Guima himself.
1:49:00
The demons are cheering. They're have, I think they had
1:49:04
light sticks. So the Sasha boys already
1:49:07
demons, correct? Yep Yep.
1:49:09
Being praised. And then you see some souls in
1:49:11
the sky heading towards Guima. So it's obviously starting to
1:49:15
work. Interestingly, Guima tells Ginu
1:49:18
that there's a hunter who bears his marks, but he has no control
1:49:23
over her. But Ginu reassures Guima that
1:49:25
it's a good thing because it means she has shame ever.
1:49:29
She's ashamed of something and he'll find out what it is.
1:49:32
And he also reassures Guimar that everything is going
1:49:35
according to plan. All right, so we get to the
1:49:38
Huntrix back at their dorm after the fight, looking all cut up
1:49:42
and bloody. They're looking out the window
1:49:44
and they see the Hone Moon now has all these red spots in them,
1:49:47
which are like holes that are weak spots, making it easier for
1:49:50
the demons to come out. Bobby comes up and shows them
1:49:53
that the salsa boys are trending on social media.
1:49:56
And then I thought it was just, you know, very ironic where he's
1:49:58
like worrying. And he's like, you know what?
1:50:00
It's just social media. I have to get away from my
1:50:03
phone. And he looks out and he sees a
1:50:04
beautiful city while the girls look out and see the whole moon
1:50:08
being destroyed. He's like, it's not the end of
1:50:10
the world from his perspective. And then the girls look out and
1:50:13
it's like, no, it's literally. The end of the world, Oh, that
1:50:19
was. But even before that, it's funny
1:50:22
when he's scrolling what assumingly is like their version
1:50:25
of TikTok and seeing all the people do the sold the
1:50:27
shoulders, the shoulders soda pop.
1:50:29
And then you see Zoe come up behind him to watch, and they're
1:50:33
like Bobby, Zoe, control those shoulders.
1:50:36
And Zoe right away, she's all like, it's a really good song.
1:50:40
They're really good, yes. Bobby even agreed even though
1:50:43
after his comment he literally says he's all like but they
1:50:46
suck. Yes, because he still has to
1:50:48
support his girls. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:50:51
So in order to keep the fans, Rumi comes up with the idea to
1:50:54
defeat the Saja boys at the Idol award show with the diss track.
1:50:58
That way they can keep their fans happy, complete the hormone
1:51:01
and defeat the demons. Now after that Rumi goes back
1:51:05
into her room and she sees the scarf that Ginu put on her arm
1:51:09
like on her bed and she starts thinking of him only to meet up
1:51:12
with his companion Sussy which is a set a six eyed magpie and
1:51:18
Derpy the tiger. They have an invitation from
1:51:22
Jinu to roomie so they can meet up and have a chat.
1:51:26
Roomie thought she had the element of surprise to kill him
1:51:29
and unfortunately Jinu seems like he's one step ahead with
1:51:32
the mannequin saying it was an icebreaker.
1:51:36
Also making fun of her having trains.
1:51:39
What was it? Trains and something else on her
1:51:41
pajama pants. Teddy bears and trains.
1:51:44
Teddy bears. Ginu confronts Rumi about her
1:51:51
being a demon who who is also a hunter and how he figured out
1:51:55
really quickly that her friends are unaware but he kept her
1:51:59
secret. He's asking her questions about
1:52:01
her Marks and if she can hear Guima talking to her like how
1:52:04
the other demons cons how the other demons can constantly hear
1:52:08
him. He does try to relate to Rumi
1:52:11
about like knowing how she feels when it comes to hiding.
1:52:14
She says demons don't feel and he tells her that that's all
1:52:17
demons do is feel. All they feel is misery and
1:52:21
shame 24/7 so then end that as well.
1:52:26
Like I do have a in this specific scene, I do wonder
1:52:30
because I feel like some demons are created and just like and
1:52:37
then there's demons like Gino that were human but then later
1:52:42
on got converted to to demons because they agreed and
1:52:48
basically gave their soul up. I'm a slightly.
1:52:51
Come back to that later on. But I also had that question,
1:52:56
but I can explain a little bit more with Korean history on that
1:52:59
question you have slightly because I had something else
1:53:03
that kind of goes into that as far as questions.
1:53:06
So we can we can bring that up a little bit later.
1:53:09
But for Gino himself, he goes into the back story of when he
1:53:12
first heard Guima, which was 400 years ago.
1:53:15
He talks about how his family was poor and how he tried to
1:53:17
play Beep Bop, which is a pear shaped loot that is a Korean
1:53:22
traditional instrument in the street to get money but had no
1:53:25
luck. And then while he's looking into
1:53:28
the reflection of himself in the puddle, that's when he actually
1:53:30
starts hearing Guima voice. He's basically spewing doubt
1:53:34
into him, telling him he's not good enough, he can never
1:53:36
provide for his family however he can help him.
1:53:40
And overnight is when he gets in that he gets invited to start
1:53:44
playing and singing at the palace and for the king himself.
1:53:48
Him and his family finally lived a comfortable life with clean
1:53:51
clothes and full bellies. But then the pattern started to
1:53:55
show over his body and then he was trapped in the demon world
1:53:58
to serve Guima for all eternity. He says the marks are a reminder
1:54:01
of a shame and that he can never escape it.
1:54:03
But Rumi keeps telling him that they are not the same and she'll
1:54:06
never be like him. And I am also going to again
1:54:09
towards the end bring up the specific thing because it goes
1:54:13
into something I have to say. But just remember his first
1:54:16
initial story that he tells Rumi.
1:54:18
Then we go into the montage of Huntrix creating takedown which
1:54:22
they were struggling with at 1st until Zoe started drooling over
1:54:25
a poster of mystery and Mira had to go over there and tear it
1:54:29
down saying they won't be able to concentrate until they take
1:54:32
them down. Like they're going to take down
1:54:34
these boys. So then the phrase sparks
1:54:36
inspiration and roomie and they got their title of the song and
1:54:39
start writing the lyrics. And in the montage you can see
1:54:42
like they're fighting the demons still working on the song.
1:54:45
There's a part where like Mira throws a demon and it makes a
1:54:48
specific beat to where like she liked for the song.
1:54:51
We also see them having a back and forth during music shows of
1:54:55
like massage, the boys winning for pop and then the girls
1:54:58
waiting for Golden. So they're basically neck to
1:55:00
neck when it comes to like the charts and everything.
1:55:03
And then we also see due to Rumi having her chat with Gino, that
1:55:07
she's starting to kind of build empathy for the demons.
1:55:11
There's even one point where like, she traps a demon, but
1:55:14
she's like whispering to him, like, are you OK?
1:55:16
Like, are you being controlled by Guima?
1:55:18
Until Mira came in and like killed it.
1:55:20
And he's like, were you just talking to the demon?
1:55:22
And she's like, no, I think you're just imagining things.
1:55:25
Or I don't remember the exact excuse that she came up with.
1:55:29
And then at the same time, too, the Sasha boys are also taking
1:55:31
over the city. And then we see parts where like
1:55:34
first on a billboard is the hunt tricks and then they get
1:55:36
replaced with Sasha boys. So then the Huntrix has a fan
1:55:40
meaning and the Sasha boys crash it, which leads the two groups
1:55:44
is doing a joint fan sign. And again, that was another
1:55:47
point of me saying oh, so this is also the fiction part because
1:55:51
never that would never happen. Twitter would be on fire if that
1:55:58
ever happened. It'd be so, I don't know, I feel
1:56:02
like. Would you like to see that
1:56:04
though? If they're from the same company
1:56:06
like I wouldn't mind. Why not?
1:56:08
Like I honestly same here like I wouldn't mind like let's say BTS
1:56:13
and TXT because they always reference TXT as like like their
1:56:17
little brothers you know what I mean?
1:56:19
Like I wouldn't mind. Like boy groups, though it's
1:56:21
different when it's a boy group and a girl group.
1:56:24
Knowing yes, the current atmosphere is the one.
1:56:29
That's pairs the. Seraphim.
1:56:32
Yeah, they're what I yeah, no, it's fine.
1:56:36
They're Seraphim, aren't they? Yeah, they're, yes.
1:56:39
Right. I don't know.
1:56:40
I mean, I think the closest thing that we're seeing when it
1:56:43
comes to crisscross and and even crisscrossing companies is the
1:56:48
challenges that get that get done.
1:56:51
Yes, which I think helped bring back the interaction of boys and
1:56:55
girls again, interacting and seeing like, hey, this is
1:56:59
normal. Like, you don't have to always
1:57:01
start rumors, even though we're going to talk about that in a
1:57:04
second. Or just like be like she can't
1:57:07
be next to my idol and vice versa.
1:57:10
Because unfortunately this propaganda of like, promoting
1:57:14
these idols as like their fans significant other in the mess
1:57:17
that's been. So yeah, this was definitely
1:57:20
more of a Western fig as far as the fan meet in a joint fan
1:57:24
meet. Yeah.
1:57:26
And the other thing too, it's like also the collaborations
1:57:31
that are happening between companies.
1:57:33
So that way it's like, yes, we're from different companies,
1:57:35
but you don't have to. One's better than the other type
1:57:40
of thing. Kind of like with Hobie and Son.
1:57:44
Yeah, but I don't know because that's the way they compete too,
1:57:47
which is a whole different topic that we don't have time for.
1:57:52
But I mean, there was also rumors too that that scene was
1:57:54
supposed to be basically them doing their own version of like
1:57:58
the Isaac, which I don't remember the exact acronym for,
1:58:02
but it's like a thing they used to do, which I think they're
1:58:04
bringing back of like idols from all of these different
1:58:07
companies, like you just said, performing and like what we
1:58:10
considered like Olympic type game.
1:58:13
I don't remember the actual acronym, but that's what eyes.
1:58:15
I don't know if you've ever seen idols doing Isaac.
1:58:18
Like there's a lot of clips of like BTS doing it.
1:58:20
Like there's some scenes where like you keep participated in,
1:58:23
like the basketball tournament. There's a very famous clip of
1:58:27
John Cook, two of them when they were doing a relay and he
1:58:30
surpassed everyone because they didn't believe like he was going
1:58:33
to make it. BTS one.
1:58:34
And then there's another one where they're doing a form of
1:58:38
wrestling. To kind of get back at the
1:58:40
group. Yeah, yeah, I've seen those.
1:58:42
That's from the Isaac. Thing.
1:58:45
I feel like they have those for like when they're first debuting
1:58:48
type thing, like they're older, like they're earlier.
1:58:53
No, I mean, BTS did it all the way up until, I want to say
1:58:56
until they started getting big in the States.
1:58:58
Like they at least did it up until either Part 1 or Part 2 of
1:59:01
HYYH. Oh, OK.
1:59:04
And other groups too, like twice has done it.
1:59:07
Like yeah. I feel like another one is
1:59:12
Kingdom. Forgot what the name of the
1:59:17
actual show is. I know it had more in there but
1:59:22
they actually like perform and sing and it it's like from
1:59:28
different groups. But that's a competition show
1:59:33
though, where I don't know if they really won anything with
1:59:37
the Isaac. It was more for like it was more
1:59:40
for fun and like almost fan servicy and then like seeing
1:59:44
other again idols from different groups like I mean you.
1:59:47
Can't tell me that wasn't competition too though because.
1:59:50
I don't think they want anything like they were supposed to win
1:59:53
and the Kingdom show that you're talking about, OK, different,
1:59:59
different type of stakes, if that makes sense.
2:00:01
Yeah, I don't know, the Kingdom one seems kind of cool only
2:00:05
because like all the groups get basically not necessarily pulled
2:00:08
apart, but each member goes into a different one and another
2:00:12
group is created by different members of.
2:00:15
Oh, so no, you're not talking about Kingdom.
2:00:17
We're talking about completely different shows.
2:00:18
You're talking about the Purdue shows like produce one-on-one
2:00:21
and all that. I think it's been renamed a
2:00:23
couple times, but you're talking about groups that has like
2:00:26
created Kepler or like created zero base one right now, things
2:00:30
like that. They don't create a group.
2:00:34
So like I know Stray Kids and 80s I think it was I can't
2:00:43
remember. Who from a TS, Yes.
2:00:46
No, but that they weren't, they didn't create a group that was
2:00:49
just a segment of the entire show.
2:00:52
But they were still competing as a TS.
2:00:54
They were still competing as Stray Kids, things like that.
2:00:57
That wasn't the premise of like matching them.
2:01:00
You're only talking about specific challenge that they
2:01:02
did. I watched that, so I know what
2:01:04
you're talking about. And yeah, OK, so it's it's still
2:01:08
different. Yeah.
2:01:11
Because when they won, they won as their representative group
2:01:14
that's already there. So like I know the road to
2:01:16
Kingdom, the boys had won at that time and that led them to
2:01:20
be on Kingdom with Stray Kids with a TS with I think B2B also
2:01:25
and whoever won from that, which I think was Stray Kids, yes.
2:01:29
OK, OK. Because at first you were
2:01:31
explaining produce, which is when they take either people
2:01:36
from already established smaller groups or trainees to form a
2:01:40
whole new group. That wasn't what Kingdom was.
2:01:46
OK, I didn't realize the Kingdom was an entire air competition,
2:01:50
so OK, that makes more sense now, Yes and then?
2:01:56
I don't know if it's still going on or not.
2:01:58
I feel like they had another season but this was more the
2:02:03
Isaac is more different because again it's like I feel like it
2:02:06
was just more chill and laid back just to watch like idols
2:02:09
basically play games and just an Olympic style.
2:02:12
They were like competing but like not really competing.
2:02:14
Again, that was before I really got into K pop so I don't know
2:02:17
if like winning groups actually won anything or not.
2:02:23
OK. Yeah, so that's what I mean, but
2:02:28
they ended up taking it out because as we're discussing too,
2:02:32
not many people actually know what that was.
2:02:34
So the producers didn't think it.
2:02:37
They asked them to change it. Yeah, because they didn't think
2:02:40
many people would understand that part of like the K pop
2:02:43
culture. So that's why it ended up being
2:02:45
a Co Ed joint fan meet in their eyes.
2:02:50
That's more realistic, quote UN quote.
2:02:52
OK, yeah, also it's just interesting and funny of, like,
2:02:58
Rumi and Gina whispering to each other that doesn't cost more
2:03:02
chaos between the fans, but like, they're actually enjoying
2:03:06
it and shipping them. And then with the one fan who
2:03:08
comes up, like, are you guys whispering to each other?
2:03:10
It's OK, your secret is safe with me thinking they're like,
2:03:13
dating. And then she reveals she has a
2:03:15
shirt on with the ship name Rujinu.
2:03:19
I think that's how you pronounce it, Ru.
2:03:23
Ruchi no Ruchi. That's their ship name.
2:03:27
And then Zoe has one with mystery called Zoistery.
2:03:31
And then I was very interested by like, OK, so we're we're
2:03:35
propping up Polly relationships because they ship mirror with
2:03:38
Abby and romance the mirror Mabi.
2:03:45
OK, team one for Polly relationships.
2:03:49
Let's go progressive, my eyes that is.
2:03:53
So of course, continuing with her whispering, Ginu and Rumi
2:03:57
get into it. He tells her he's only doing
2:04:00
this to get the memories and the voices out of his head.
2:04:03
And Rumi talks about how she's doing this because she hates her
2:04:06
marks, demons, and Guima. And then the very important
2:04:09
thing Regina brings up that if hate could defeat Guima, he
2:04:14
would have been able to defeat him a long time ago.
2:04:17
So I feel like many people also kind of skipped in a sense, yes,
2:04:23
because it kind of goes into the whole theming of this movie.
2:04:27
And then we get a little girl interrupting them and gives Genu
2:04:29
fan art where it says he has a beautiful soul.
2:04:33
And then you can kind of see the conflict that he's having with
2:04:36
him himself. I'm since discovering where
2:04:38
Mia's part demon continues to grow.
2:04:41
So they're both, you know, going through internal battles with
2:04:43
themselves. Words of hating demons and Guima
2:04:47
also get to Rumi as she's going over the song and starts
2:04:51
crossing out some lyrics and starting to feel a different
2:04:53
way. There's certain parts she Can't
2:04:55
Sing. Mirror comes into her room
2:04:57
because she hears Rumi singing and confronts her on her
2:05:00
abnormal behavior. When it comes to how she seems
2:05:03
to show like, I'm not sure if sympathy or empathy is the right
2:05:07
word, but one of those two towards the demons and changing
2:05:10
the lyrics to the new songs. And you know, of course Rumi's
2:05:13
able to cover it up and convince her nothing's wrong and she's
2:05:16
imagining things. And the mirror ends up blaming
2:05:18
it on her being anxious on winning the idol war so they can
2:05:22
finally complete the hormone, which is the thing that's kind
2:05:24
of also honestly really looming over their head of like, OK, we
2:05:28
have to make sure we find the perfect song in order to
2:05:32
completely seal the whole moon. Yeah.
2:05:35
And even during all this, the Saja boys continue to grow in
2:05:38
popularity, making it easier for the demons to take their souls
2:05:41
back to Guima so he can feed. And we see, like, a small little
2:05:46
thing of, like, how many humans are starting to be reported as
2:05:49
missing. Rumi meets up with Ginu again
2:05:52
and she tells him she has her own plan to basically free him
2:05:57
of everything. She tells him that if he helps
2:05:59
the Huntrix win the idol awards, he should be able to stay in the
2:06:02
human world while they seal the Han moon and he'll finally be
2:06:06
free. He does question her on how does
2:06:10
she know that this plan will work?
2:06:12
And she basically is like, I don't know, but like I have to
2:06:15
have hope because if there's no hope in saving him, how could
2:06:18
she save herself? Herself.
2:06:21
Yeah, SO also died at the scene. When they're kind of bickering,
2:06:27
the old woman comes up to them and offers a bracelet to them
2:06:31
and he's like, give it to your girlfriend.
2:06:33
And they start being like we're not dating.
2:06:36
And he's like, she's not even my type.
2:06:38
And that's really gets Rumi like angry.
2:06:40
She's like I have everybody's type what are you talking about?
2:06:43
But I love love and I'm like this what we need to see more
2:06:46
of, especially from older generation where she gives the
2:06:49
bracelet to Rumi and she's like, go find a better boyfriend.
2:06:52
This ones hopeless. Like I just love that especially
2:06:56
and just especially I feel like minority cultures, especially in
2:06:59
America where, you know, we're taught to always like find a man
2:07:03
and you know, settle and all that.
2:07:05
So it was just nice to see something different, especially
2:07:07
from someone older where it's like, don't settle.
2:07:10
And GAIL, if he's causing you this much stress, go find
2:07:13
someone who will take care of you.
2:07:14
So. Exactly.
2:07:15
I just love that part. And then of course after that,
2:07:20
because I know Ginu made a comma where he's like, see, I am
2:07:23
hopeless so. I am hopeless.
2:07:26
But he does tell Rumi before they awkwardly leave is that he
2:07:30
doesn't think she's a mistake, which is something Rumi keeps
2:07:33
saying a lot, that she's a mistake and she shouldn't be
2:07:37
there. It's funny how he takes the
2:07:39
bracelet too. Yeah, I was like, because we
2:07:42
also got the K drama scene of him grabbing onto her wrist
2:07:46
because he doesn't want her to go.
2:07:48
And I think that was an excuse like, oh, I just, I wanted the
2:07:51
bracelet, but she gave it to Rumi.
2:07:53
Why do you want the bracelet, Sir?
2:07:55
Anyways. Exactly, you just said you were
2:07:59
hopeless. During the rehearsal of
2:08:01
Takedown, Rumi is struggling and she stops, saying she Can't Sing
2:08:03
the song because it doesn't feel right, which leaves the girls to
2:08:06
start fighting. But they don't have time since
2:08:09
the whole moon let's them know that there are demons among
2:08:13
them. So they actually run out and
2:08:15
start battling them on a train while Mira and Rumi have a fight
2:08:19
among themselves as well with Mira asking why she's acting
2:08:23
weird and what she's hiding, telling Rumi that if she's one
2:08:27
of them to, you know, prove it while they're fighting.
2:08:30
So while they're battling the demons, they are singing the
2:08:32
song takedown. However, during their fight
2:08:35
again, Rumi is just struggling to sing the song and she like
2:08:38
stumbles over like basically the parts where it says like demons
2:08:42
don't deserve a live and everything and it ends up
2:08:46
messing them up. The demons become successful and
2:08:49
takes all these people from the train.
2:08:51
Stakes are high and Mira tells her whatever she's going through
2:08:55
to push past it because there's just too much going on right now
2:08:59
and they have to complete sealing the hormone.
2:09:02
Rumi and Ginu meets up again and she acts as him if he's up for
2:09:06
the plan but he has doubts it will work.
2:09:09
Then she finally actually does open up about her shame to him.
2:09:12
Talks about the more she tries to hide who she is, which is,
2:09:15
you know, the part demon and her, the more the shame grew.
2:09:18
Which makes sense because again, when she was a kid, it was just
2:09:21
on her shoulder. So it's just been festering and
2:09:24
building as she's gotten older and until they took the one
2:09:27
thing she relied on to be a hunter, which is her voice.
2:09:30
That's when things started changing for her.
2:09:33
However, after she met Gino and she doesn't understand, but for
2:09:38
some reason, every time she talks to him, the more she talks
2:09:41
to him, her voice started healing once again.
2:09:44
And then we get our beautiful ballad and SOG free.
2:09:49
And I just love watching that every single time I've watched
2:09:52
this movie. And then after the song, Gino
2:09:55
says he couldn't hear Guima anymore and agrees to help Rumi
2:09:58
defeat the Saja boys. But then things quickly turn
2:10:01
when Guima brings Gino down to the underworld, reminding him of
2:10:05
his place. Saying you thought you could get
2:10:08
rid of me. This girl's plan won't work.
2:10:11
Remember, I'm the only one who can either increase the noises
2:10:14
or take them away fully. So in the morning, the girls
2:10:19
have a sit down going over the idol awards and they all come to
2:10:22
an agreement that takedown isn't the appropriate song to perform
2:10:25
just because one, it wouldn't connect them with the fans, but
2:10:28
it already is making them disconnect as a group.
2:10:32
And that's when they slightly start opening up to each other
2:10:35
about, you know, their insecurities and, like, fears
2:10:38
of, like, being together or like not being together and like how
2:10:43
being hunters has helped them and change their mindset on a
2:10:46
lot of things. So they end up agreeing that
2:10:49
Golden is the song that they should perform.
2:10:52
And Rumi even promises to go to the bath house with them once
2:10:55
they win and seal the Hong Moon because again, we're still
2:10:59
believing that her marks will go away once they turn it gold and
2:11:02
seal the demons away forever. Now once we actually get to the
2:11:07
scene where the Idol awards are happening, the Saja boys are
2:11:10
supposed to perform, but they get into a quote UN quote fight
2:11:13
and the Huntricks are up next. I kind of wish that they would
2:11:17
have shown that little fight scene with the Saja boys.
2:11:22
Were they technically fighting? That's why I put it in quotes
2:11:25
because I feel like that was just, you know, a cop out for
2:11:28
what's about to happen next. Yeah, yeah, I know.
2:11:33
So that's probably why I wouldn't see them actually fight
2:11:35
because there wasn't actually a fight going on.
2:11:39
So and then this is what I talked about earlier, like when
2:11:41
they are about to head to the stage and they come out the
2:11:43
dressing room, you know, we get a cameo some K pop groups on the
2:11:47
wall. So like we see twice and then we
2:11:49
see Meow in the back. And then even when I first
2:11:51
watched this, I was confused why Meowv was there because I was
2:11:54
like, aren't they a newish group?
2:11:55
But now that I know the Black Label helped produce on the
2:11:57
soundtrack, it makes more sense why there's a picture of them on
2:12:00
there for promotions. So all right, so they start
2:12:04
performing golden and everything is going great, and then they
2:12:07
see glimmers of the whole moon turning gold, especially roomy
2:12:11
when she has her solo part and is, you know, up in the sky
2:12:13
swinging around the audience. During her solo part, though,
2:12:17
Zoe and Mira go off stage briefly, but they see Bobby
2:12:20
getting kidnapped by people and they run over to rescue him.
2:12:24
So when they do actually reach him, they realize they've been
2:12:26
tricked by demons and more demons actually disguise
2:12:30
themselves as mirror and Zoe and go on stage.
2:12:33
So when that happens, all of a sudden the music changes from
2:12:37
golden to takedown in the fake mirror and Zoe start pushing
2:12:41
groomie around, RIP off her jacket to expose her marks.
2:12:44
And I will also say it was it shows the professionalism
2:12:48
because like when groomie was like sitting standing there,
2:12:51
like they put takedown back into like the setlist and how she
2:12:55
immediately just like got into motion when she did.
2:13:01
What happened? That's what happens with K Pop
2:13:03
idols too. As soon as something happens,
2:13:06
you know, they'll go straight into like, all right, you know,
2:13:09
focus mode. This is what we're doing next.
2:13:12
Yep, it's a good professionalism.
2:13:15
They did really good. So during the time they reveal
2:13:19
her marks, you know the fake mirror and Zoe start whispering
2:13:23
in her ear that she's a mistake, she wasn't meant to be there.
2:13:25
So basically trying to get in Rumi's head and psych her out.
2:13:29
So she ends up, you know, screaming out which destroys the
2:13:34
stage and everything turns black due to her demon voice.
2:13:38
And when she comes off the stage, the real Mirror and Zoe
2:13:42
are there and they see Rumi, and unfortunately the marks have
2:13:45
grown a lot more, so they're now on her face, all of her stomach,
2:13:48
her legs, revealing them, and one of her eyes is also yellow.
2:13:53
They're shocked, they're hurt, feel betrayed by all her lies.
2:13:57
Mirror kept saying that she knew something was going on, she was
2:14:00
hiding something from them and she should have known.
2:14:03
And the room is trying to convince them that it's still
2:14:05
her and they can fix it once they turn the whole moon gold.
2:14:10
But then even Zoe was like how can we tell your lies from your
2:14:14
truth? And then there's a point where
2:14:16
it gets really hostile where they even hold up their weapons
2:14:19
to Rumi causing her to run off. So then Rumi starts to lookout
2:14:23
for Ginu when she confronts him and asking if he causes and that
2:14:28
she thought they had something real.
2:14:30
And then he actually comes out telling her the truth and told
2:14:32
Rumi that he lied to her about his past.
2:14:35
He actually left his mother and little sister behind so he can
2:14:39
sleep in the silk sheets and perform in the palace, you know
2:14:42
eat till his belly's full and so he left them in the cold to die.
2:14:46
So that's his biggest regret and his shame was leaving them
2:14:49
behind. And then of course just telling
2:14:52
Rumi that she's a demon like him and all they deserve is to live
2:14:55
with their misery and pain. And I'll say it now which what I
2:14:59
mentioned earlier is like after watching this a couple times I
2:15:02
should have known he was lying. I always I already thought it
2:15:05
was weird but it's like one thing I don't know if people
2:15:09
picked up on but every time Ginu talks about the marks he always
2:15:12
talks about how they are meant to remind them of their shame
2:15:17
and regret. So why would he have the marks
2:15:20
if his family did end up going in the palace and living a
2:15:24
lavish life? Now I could see people
2:15:26
interpreting that at first of like just making a deal with the
2:15:29
devil in general and that's his price he paid with the devil.
2:15:32
But the way he keeps marking about how they're shamed, he
2:15:35
wouldn't get the marks if he didn't feel shameful.
2:15:38
Usually you don't feel shameful if you ended up succeeding and
2:15:42
your goal, you know what I mean? But it depends on how you also
2:15:45
get how you got that success though.
2:15:47
Did you get that success organically by working hard, or
2:15:52
did you get that success because you decided to make a deal with
2:15:55
the the devil or a demon, whichever.
2:15:58
I mean, true, I can see you like that too.
2:16:00
Because then, essentially, you're lying.
2:16:03
You're not only lying to yourself, but you're lying to
2:16:05
everyone else. Because everyone else is seeing
2:16:07
you as this big star. But in reality, you doubt your
2:16:12
talents because you didn't get there naturally.
2:16:16
But I mean in today's world. No, I mean again, you have to
2:16:20
remember this was 400. Years ago, OK, yes it was and.
2:16:25
People. Period.
2:16:26
Yeah, and people were pointing out too, which I didn't even
2:16:29
think of. It's like either way, like you
2:16:32
can. This was when we know like we
2:16:35
bought had trick Jinu because he never would have been able to
2:16:38
bring his mother and sister to the palace.
2:16:40
Like usually in cases like that, especially back then from where
2:16:45
he's from his time period, like he would have had to let leave
2:16:48
them regardless. So it's like and like you can
2:16:51
even tell when you watch it a million times like I do like he
2:16:55
has a look of confusion when they turn his mom and sister
2:16:58
away, like he didn't know he couldn't bring them.
2:17:01
So I'm sure that also adds to the shame, like promising them
2:17:04
they would have this, that and the third and then getting there
2:17:07
and they get turned away. Which is what happened.
2:17:10
Deals, at least from what you know, gets portrayed right in
2:17:14
books and in media and things like that where you can make a
2:17:18
deal, but you also have to be careful because you don't know
2:17:23
exactly how you're going to get that deal.
2:17:25
You have this thought of like, oh, I get to bring my mother and
2:17:28
sister with me. But then reality is, no, you
2:17:31
can't. You're only saving yourself.
2:17:33
Which again, I feel like the shame gets put on you because
2:17:38
all of a sudden you made this deal that you thought would help
2:17:42
not only yourself, but the people you love.
2:17:45
And then it turns out that that deal was only made to help you.
2:17:49
So I don't know, it's just a lot of layers get added to that.
2:17:53
Very layered, very weird. But after that we see the
2:17:57
hormone basically dissolving. And then also Bobby's watching
2:18:02
the hunt tricks like literally free fall from the charts.
2:18:05
That's when the announcer is telling them whole city about
2:18:09
the hundreds breakup, their public breakup, and also
2:18:12
announcing the winner for the Idol Awards, which is basically
2:18:15
Saja Boys. They're sweeping all the awards.
2:18:18
We don't know about any other groups, but it doesn't matter.
2:18:21
And then all of a sudden the Saja Boys appear and they
2:18:24
announce they're holding a free concert for everyone.
2:18:27
But obviously it's a way for Guima to collect all these
2:18:30
souls. And another thing to Guima,
2:18:33
because of the Hanmu is dissolving, it's easier for him
2:18:36
to whisper to all the humans. So like we see him whispering
2:18:39
Tamira about like how she thought she found a family but
2:18:42
she really didn't. Zoe's insecurities of like being
2:18:45
too much but not enough. He even got into Bobby's head
2:18:48
about like not being able to protect the girls to lure them
2:18:52
into this concert hall so he can take everybody's soul.
2:18:55
Then we get Celine at the sacred tree and she senses a present
2:18:59
approach her. So when she turns around and
2:19:02
reveals Roomy and the marks are basically taking over her body,
2:19:06
half her body's covered with the Marks and red again, one of her
2:19:10
eyes is yellow. I think even one of her hands
2:19:12
was starting to turn like spiky and demon like.
2:19:16
So when she confronts Celine, she tells her that, you know,
2:19:20
the others found out about her being part demon, that it's
2:19:22
over. They are they know it's in
2:19:25
despair saying that she thought she can fix it all herself, but
2:19:29
she ran out of time. And then that Celine knew that
2:19:32
she was always a mistake. And she basically acts as Celine
2:19:35
to like do what she should have done when she was younger and
2:19:38
kill her. Now this part was interesting
2:19:41
because obviously Celine can't do it because she keeps talking
2:19:45
about Rumi's mother. And that would be a bond.
2:19:48
I would love if they have a chance to like get more into
2:19:52
because obviously Celine had deep, you know, feelings for her
2:19:55
mother as far as like, that's my sister, that's my group mate,
2:19:58
that's my partner when it comes to hunting and all that.
2:20:01
So like when she died, she swore to protect anything and
2:20:05
everything that was left of her, but she just didn't.
2:20:07
Realize it would be Rumi and the way it's so backhanded where
2:20:13
she's like she never thought it'd be a child like her.
2:20:18
She also tells Rumi that everything she was taught and
2:20:22
everything that she was taught was wrong but she made a promise
2:20:26
and she did her best to protect and accept Rumi.
2:20:30
The part got me is when she said did her best.
2:20:33
I'm like, no, no, you didn't. You covered it up, you try to
2:20:36
cover it up and on top of that, she.
2:20:38
Didn't do a good job of covering it up.
2:20:40
Well, that too. But here's the thing too, and
2:20:42
that's that's my one thing about this whole entire situation is
2:20:45
that, and this is where I mean that if people were to pay
2:20:51
attention to this movie and how deep it actually goes down to
2:20:56
because if you really think about it, Rumi's shame isn't
2:20:59
even her own. That's Celine's because if you
2:21:03
think about it, Celine should have killed her.
2:21:05
She went against everything she believed and was taught for
2:21:09
however long she was a hunter to raise and protect Rumi, quote UN
2:21:14
quote to her best ability, right?
2:21:18
So technically she, and that's where it comes to like this
2:21:23
generational cycle that a lot of people nowadays try to break is
2:21:28
she gave her that shame. It was never roomies to begin
2:21:32
with. It's like, what was the point of
2:21:34
some having we ma in your ear if you already have someone who's
2:21:37
supposed to quote UN quote love and protect?
2:21:39
You. Literally with me the same
2:21:40
things we Ma would have been telling her.
2:21:43
Exactly. It's like one of those things
2:21:46
where it's like, what is the quote?
2:21:49
Something about like, sometimes how?
2:21:50
Like, why even have enemies when you be having friends like that?
2:21:54
I don't remember the example. Yeah.
2:21:57
Or family. I know what you're talking
2:21:58
about. Yeah, Yeah.
2:22:00
And like even looking at it as a like, well, not immigrant, but I
2:22:04
guess like, again, a minority and like places you grow up in
2:22:07
where you're not the majority. I also saw it from like that
2:22:10
perspective of like, I feel actually represents that
2:22:14
generation, whether they immigrated or like the times
2:22:17
that they grew up, where like they're teaching their children
2:22:20
to assimilate. So I can see that.
2:22:24
Yeah. Like, don't break the status
2:22:26
quo. Make sure you're always like, I
2:22:29
know a lot of Asian Americans too on TikTok have actually came
2:22:32
out and like talked about that too in that specific theming,
2:22:34
especially for them specifically of like why we don't see them
2:22:39
usually talk about a lot of things happening in the world
2:22:42
unless it has to deal with like the Asian American diaspora, I'm
2:22:45
not going to talk about it. That's their experience.
2:22:47
But I've been seeing, you know, talking points on that, which
2:22:50
you can see in this as well. So I can do yes.
2:22:56
But in this movie. There is, but I mean, thankfully
2:22:59
Rumi did get into that ass because she's like accept me.
2:23:02
That triggered her and she's like, you told me to cover up
2:23:06
and hide. Like don't be myself.
2:23:09
Like I can't share another part of me that I can't get rid of
2:23:12
that I was born with. I also, I know I was telling
2:23:15
Gina too. I thought of that like
2:23:17
especially if you think of the history like as a black person
2:23:20
of like mixed race people, or like if they were able to pass
2:23:24
off as white and like how they had to hide, like they were part
2:23:27
blacker things of that nature. So I could see it for that as
2:23:31
well. For me personally, I'm not
2:23:34
mixed, but it's being a black person, you know, the history
2:23:37
and all that. But Celine is still going on,
2:23:39
you know, saying that she only did that until they were able to
2:23:42
fix everything. She'll tell Mira and Zoe that it
2:23:45
was all a lie and an illusion that Guima created to break them
2:23:48
up. But when Rumi says like you know
2:23:50
no more, you can see like she actually does scare Celine
2:23:54
because that's what she was afraid of her like showing her
2:23:56
demon side. Can't even look at Rumi when
2:23:59
like she axes and basically begs and please like why couldn't you
2:24:03
love her and like not just her, but like all of her because when
2:24:06
she's like, I did love you, she's like, no, you didn't love
2:24:09
all of me. Shakes up the whole moon.
2:24:12
And then Celine starts going to a spat of like This is why they
2:24:14
must hide and like not show their faults and fears in order
2:24:18
to protect the Hong Moon. And then Mumi says like if this
2:24:22
is the Hong Moon she's supposed to protect, she's glad it's
2:24:24
being destroyed. And then she uses her actual
2:24:26
demon powers to teleport away. Yep, and I did.
2:24:30
Also see a very interesting talking point online by some
2:24:34
people, like maybe Celine was harping on this so much because
2:24:37
as we do see, Huima not only has control of demons, but he also
2:24:41
has control of the humans. Again, that's how he got Ginu.
2:24:44
That's I'm sure how he got a lot of people and took their souls
2:24:47
and made them demons. So it's like, I do wonder if
2:24:50
part of that freaking out was so Guima wouldn't get into their
2:24:54
heads in order so they won't control them.
2:24:58
Yeah well I mean again, cuz he tends to like lean on like like
2:25:03
mistakes in a way. So like I feel like the demon
2:25:08
hunters in in some shape or form, they have to be perfect.
2:25:12
They can't have any issues, They can't have any shame, they can't
2:25:15
have any nothing. They basically have to be
2:25:18
perfect in order to be what they are.
2:25:21
Quote UN quote, like what they're supposed to be.
2:25:23
Yeah, which I mean, again, that ties perfectly for making them
2:25:27
idols because it's the same thing with idols.
2:25:32
So the Saja boys are dressed as their true selves with Guima.
2:25:35
And, you know, he's all behind them.
2:25:37
He's huge now he's able to get into the human world and
2:25:42
basically a bunch of other demons there as well.
2:25:45
At the venue, the crowd is, like, constantly being, you
2:25:48
know, seduced by the Saja boys. They're chanting for them and
2:25:52
waiting for them until they start forming the song Your
2:25:54
idol. People start being lured into
2:25:57
the fire, which is Guima. The song is working to possess
2:26:01
them until once they're done they hear the voice of Rumi
2:26:04
singing and then like it's really cool to make sure of her
2:26:07
voice and the demon voice. She starts saying the Hunter's
2:26:10
chant that she was always taught about The We are hunters voice
2:26:14
is strong slang. Demons with their songs fix the
2:26:17
world and make it right when darkness finally meets the
2:26:20
light. So then there is a part where
2:26:22
Kwima kind of taunts her about that and her insecurities from
2:26:25
that saying and like saying she's exposed by everybody of
2:26:30
who she really is and like, yeah, she's agreeing and
2:26:32
everything. And then when he mentions that
2:26:34
the whole moon is gone and that she failed, it's like, yes, but
2:26:37
that means we can create a new one.
2:26:40
So then that's when we start getting the song This is what it
2:26:43
sounds like, where they basically start embracing
2:26:45
themselves, talking about how hiding themselves and
2:26:48
insecurities has failed, and she's becoming stronger by
2:26:52
telling her truth, which brings the members together to where
2:26:56
they can finally fight off Guima and the rest of the demons.
2:27:01
So in order to stop them, he ends up trying to basically
2:27:06
incinerate her with his fire. And there's a point where she's
2:27:11
pushing back, and we think that she ended up stopping it.
2:27:15
But then who do we see blocking the fire?
2:27:19
Gino which means he is sacrificing himself in order to
2:27:26
save her. Paul she's apologizing, saying
2:27:30
she wanted to free him. And then he's like you did and
2:27:35
thanking her. And it's like, I will give my
2:27:39
soul to you. Listen, I don't remember the
2:27:41
exact quote. What do you mean my soul back?
2:27:44
Yes, you gave me my soul back and now I'm giving it to you.
2:27:48
That's what it was. Thank you Llama.
2:27:50
Which does help because then we start getting the souls of
2:27:53
everyone else. Even when Gino gave her his
2:27:58
soul, you can tell it increased her powers because she was able
2:28:01
to get a hit into Guima that actually hurt him.
2:28:04
So then we continue with the song, collecting everyone else's
2:28:07
souls, singing along with them, killing the other saja boys.
2:28:11
And then once they hover over Guima, once they finish the
2:28:15
song, a brand new Hong Moon is created and they defeated the
2:28:21
demon King. And it's different because their
2:28:23
whole goal was to turn it gold. However, this new Hong moon is
2:28:27
kind of like a rainbow color. And then finally towards the
2:28:32
end, we get Roomie going to a bath house with Zoe and Mira.
2:28:36
And it's different because now she's actually showing herself.
2:28:38
Even her marks are different. They're not that dark of
2:28:41
depressing color, the purple color anymore.
2:28:43
They're actually the same color as the Han moon.
2:28:46
So. And even on her skin, like
2:28:47
unless she's in the light, you can tell it's kind of like they
2:28:50
just look like white scarring. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:28:53
But like there's certain parts where I like how they did in the
2:28:56
animation. If she is in certain lighting,
2:28:58
it does look like the rainbow color that is in the home, Yeah.
2:29:01
Yeah, I noticed that too. Yeah, so once they're done and
2:29:04
then they apologize to each other in the bath house, saying
2:29:06
how much they love each other. They are more excited because
2:29:10
it's break time, they did their job and it's couch time, Couch,
2:29:14
couch, couch. But then they see three young
2:29:17
girls wearing their merch and then they're like, even though
2:29:20
they want to take a break, the reason they do this is for the
2:29:22
fans. So then they end up going to the
2:29:24
girls to say hi and start signing merch.
2:29:27
And then we ended there with the Billboard already of them taking
2:29:32
new picture with Rumi, showing, you know, her marks on the
2:29:35
picture, seeing Derpy and Sussy. And then we get the end credits
2:29:40
of Twice singing Cake Down. That is the movie.
2:29:44
Yay, we defeated Guima, now feel the honeymoon.
2:29:51
Exactly Before we go quickly, Gina's death because that's the
2:29:57
hottest topic that's going on online right now.
2:30:00
La La your thoughts series on his death.
2:30:02
Do you want to see him back? All that good stuff Yes.
2:30:08
Also I want to confirm for you too.
2:30:10
In that same Reddit, Q and AI know privately you were like
2:30:13
well what happened to baby and romance?
2:30:17
Because you didn't see them get killed.
2:30:18
It is implied that Mira and Zoe did kill them, so yeah.
2:30:22
I kind of figured that they just, yeah, they just didn't
2:30:24
have it on on the screens. But I know that that was
2:30:27
something that a lot of fans were like talking about and
2:30:30
stuff like that. But we know at the end of the
2:30:33
day, there were demons. A First off, they were already
2:30:35
dead, for crying out loud. Gino was 400 years old.
2:30:38
Like he. And we don't even know how long
2:30:40
the other Saja boys like, if they were longer than Gino like.
2:30:44
Yeah. And then other stories you also
2:30:46
have to think like, how do you pronounce it again?
2:30:49
Guinwa, Guinma, Guinma. Like at the end of the day, he
2:30:54
controlled them like they had the bodies that they had.
2:30:57
And he even said it like in the beginning when Jinu was like
2:31:02
mocking him doing the song and introducing the fact, oh, we'll,
2:31:05
you know, become a a demon boy band or whatever.
2:31:08
Guinwa even said I let you keep that voice so it wasn't they're
2:31:14
not alive. Like as soon as his soul,
2:31:17
because his soul did get released, his soul did become
2:31:20
free and he was able to give it up.
2:31:23
That was it. That's all he is, is just a
2:31:25
soul. He's not an actual body.
2:31:28
So yes, I understand that everyone's like, I want Genu
2:31:31
back for SQL 2 and like, yes, in a way I part of part of me does
2:31:37
too, but I also understand it. That's not gonna happen.
2:31:41
There's no way. There's gotta be another love
2:31:43
interest. Sorry to be.
2:31:45
Something else for Part 2 or for the sequel.
2:31:48
But I get it. It's the romance part.
2:31:51
But again, there's so many layers, there's so much depth in
2:31:55
this movie that it just. No, no, yeah.
2:31:59
We don't need to westernize it. Yeah.
2:32:02
Speaking of Westernize, I'm glad that you brought that up La La
2:32:05
because I do notice in the talking points again, we are
2:32:10
like viewing this from our Western understanding our
2:32:14
Western growing up, especially when it comes to spirituality,
2:32:17
religion, things like that. And what triggered me to go into
2:32:20
more research on this was a tick tock I came across.
2:32:23
Now the girl could have done a little bit better in her
2:32:26
introduction to try to explain this because she did kind of
2:32:28
came off rude. It's like you guys are Korean so
2:32:31
you wouldn't understand this. It's like, OK girl, like you
2:32:34
don't have to do all that anyway.
2:32:35
But it led to more nicer people who are excited to share about
2:32:40
Korean culture that they grew up with or know about for me to
2:32:44
want to deep dive a little bit further and why Jidu more than
2:32:48
likely will not come back. So like I had said at the very
2:32:53
beginning of this introduction, this whole thing is basically
2:32:57
based off Korean shamanism. Now, the girls are based off of
2:33:01
shamans, and even though they're labeled as hunters at the
2:33:03
beginning of the movie, in real life, shamans are a majority
2:33:08
women. So they're called mudag.
2:33:11
There are some men, but a majority of them, I want to say
2:33:13
probably like if you want to put a number to it, like 85% to 90%
2:33:18
of the shamans are women. And you even see that in the
2:33:20
beginning of the movie too, because the women like the first
2:33:24
hunters, they're wearing typical clothing that shamans actually
2:33:27
did wear back then. OK, so purpose in real life too
2:33:33
that they're based off of so the mood, Dang.
2:33:36
They serve as mediators between paying clients.
2:33:39
So yes, people do, you know, pay them for their service and the
2:33:42
supernatural world employing divination to determine the
2:33:45
cause of the client's misfortune.
2:33:47
So they usually perform rituals that are called good that I did
2:33:52
mention at the beginning where they offer food and drink to the
2:33:55
gods and spirits or entertain them with like storytelling, a
2:34:00
song and a dance. There are like 1000 forms of
2:34:04
good that I found again all in the links and they literally
2:34:07
have their own practice and meanings if we want to put it in
2:34:10
real life. If you are AK pop fan and you
2:34:13
keep up with K Pop news, we saw that with, you know one who I
2:34:18
will initial. MHJI had to remember what her
2:34:22
dishes would be in English, you know, and how we found out
2:34:25
through how she was trying to take over a certain company, how
2:34:29
she was using a shaman's help. And even though that they were
2:34:33
making fun in a sense, especially the Western people,
2:34:36
like this is a real thing. I don't know if they still use
2:34:39
shamans like that. But especially in her
2:34:40
generation, now that I know all this, it makes sense.
2:34:43
So in my research, one good stood out to me and it was
2:34:47
called the Ginu Giglut, which actually originated in the
2:34:51
region where the city we know of Seoul is today, which makes
2:34:54
sense because again, the movie is set in Seoul.
2:34:56
So the Gino Gino Giglut refers to a type of Korean ritual
2:35:01
performed to guide the spirit of a deceased person to the
2:35:05
afterlife. It is a ritual of regime that
2:35:08
eases the passing of the deceased and helps them reach
2:35:11
paradise after facing judgments by the underworld king.
2:35:15
It is supposed to help the spirit towards a peaceful
2:35:18
transition to the afterlife and resolve any unresolved issues
2:35:22
that may have hindered their journey.
2:35:24
Sound familiar guys? So believe, and this is my own
2:35:30
personal theory that I wrote in here, I believe that the
2:35:33
original hunters like the Huntrick, well, not the
2:35:36
Huntricks, but the hunters because Huntricks is
2:35:38
specifically Roomy, Zoe and Mira.
2:35:41
I believe they knew this. I believe this is what they were
2:35:44
doing the whole time. And however, you know how things
2:35:46
get like miswritten and misconstrued throughout history.
2:35:50
I personally feel like something along the lines got
2:35:52
mistranslated to where they ended up getting taught to hate
2:35:57
the demons and kill them as opposed to help them pass on.
2:36:01
And what makes me think that is looking at the little bit we got
2:36:05
to Celine and the way she acted talking about Rumi's father, who
2:36:08
was a demon, compared to the unknown story that we know of,
2:36:11
of how Rumi and Rumi's mother and her father, you know, got
2:36:14
together. So personally, I feel like along
2:36:18
the way there is some like, mistranslation there of like
2:36:22
changing the ways of how they're supposed to actually defeat
2:36:24
these demons. Yeah.
2:36:27
Now there's a couple also theories I had of like maybe
2:36:30
Rumi's mother somehow helped Rumi's father in some way get
2:36:34
his soul back like Ginu away from Guima and like somehow
2:36:38
ended up helping him not have him in his ear all the time.
2:36:42
Because I had posted a picture in the server that's going
2:36:45
around actually created by one of the creators.
2:36:47
I had to make sure it wasn't like a fan art.
2:36:49
There is a picture of Rumi's parents and of her when she's an
2:36:52
infant. And from the way he is dressed
2:36:55
you can tell he also probably was a saja or grim Reaper and
2:36:59
like a humanoid demon. So I have a feeling he was a
2:37:02
human first and then, you know, became Asaja somehow through
2:37:07
Queen Mom. Because the demons you were
2:37:09
talking about earlier, the ones that look more monster like,
2:37:12
those were probably the ones that were never human but were
2:37:15
always demons. And I looked it up because it's
2:37:17
the most common demons. They're called do KB, which also
2:37:20
translate to like goblin or demon.
2:37:23
And they're trickster spirits in nature.
2:37:25
That's why it's shown like when they trick Mira and Zoe and
2:37:30
kidnapping Bobby. But they're really demon shows.
2:37:33
They're trickster in nature even like at the very beginning of
2:37:35
them like pretending to be like the pilot and the flight
2:37:37
attendants. And also fun fact, apparently
2:37:41
they were the the story of them as they were created through an
2:37:44
animate objects stained with human blood.
2:37:46
So that's how they became do K bees.
2:37:50
Yeah. And they're lower demons too.
2:37:53
So I feel like all the regular demons that we saw like that and
2:37:55
there were other ones like the water demons, I don't know much
2:37:58
about them, but the ones with the more monster like I think
2:38:01
they were do K bees. So like in all.
2:38:05
Of this you do see like when Gino goes back into the
2:38:10
underworld, you can see a lot of people that or a lot of them
2:38:13
that were Sajas. So I figured like there had to
2:38:19
be a difference between them, which I'm pretty sure there are
2:38:23
like more differences between the demons.
2:38:26
And I think even a saja at the very very beginning of the movie
2:38:31
was the one who brought the do KBS to collect the souls for
2:38:34
guima because like I've never saw anywhere where it said the
2:38:38
demons themselves eat the souls. I think they only collect them
2:38:41
for guima so. Like their little purpose is to
2:38:47
feed him. Yep.
2:38:49
Which I think is what happens anyways, because that's how he
2:38:51
gets more powerful, which is how he creates more demons, you
2:38:54
know? Yeah.
2:38:56
So it's a whole cycle. Yeah, so and all that to say
2:38:59
with everything I said, that's why I'm like, Gino's truly dead
2:39:02
because I think Rumi fulfilled her shaman duties to perform the
2:39:06
chunugi like ritual to help him not only get his soul back, but
2:39:10
to heal him from his regret. Now I do have two theories.
2:39:13
Also. One again, she fulfilled her
2:39:16
duty and he passed on like after he gave his soul to her like and
2:39:22
helped like defeat Guima, he was able to actually find peace or
2:39:26
if we want to be like Jidu's not gone.
2:39:29
I actually do believe that Jinu's soul was used to create
2:39:33
the New Han moon and Jinu is actually the New Han moon
2:39:36
because also I didn't talk about it earlier, but Han moon is
2:39:40
actually in Korean culture, a mystical gate of souls that you
2:39:44
know creates the boundary between the living and the
2:39:46
afterlife. Han actually means soul and moon
2:39:49
means like door or gate, which makes sense throughout the whole
2:39:54
thing you see them actually taking this parts of souls from
2:39:57
living beings to create the Han moon.
2:40:00
So if you want to be like that, Gino may be able to come back
2:40:04
because his soul is still it's being used between the living
2:40:07
and the dead as the new Han moon.
2:40:09
Like he's the main foundation of it.
2:40:12
And even when people are like, oh, maybe he is her weapon.
2:40:15
I mean, yes, you can consider that because.
2:40:18
Their weapons are actually created from the Hong Moon and
2:40:21
it's shown at the beginning of the of the scene, like when
2:40:24
they're about to fight and they're gathering them, you see
2:40:26
Zoe like move her hand and it shows the glimmering wave of the
2:40:30
Hong Moon and then her weapons appear.
2:40:31
So their weapons are also made from the Hong Moon.
2:40:35
Which again, if you can really take it, the Hong Moon is being
2:40:38
created by like, I don't want to say the souls of the people
2:40:41
because I don't believe that they're taking the souls from
2:40:43
the people, but it's the belief of the people into the Hong Moon
2:40:49
and into them that helps. Yes, get that so.
2:40:53
But they still kind of use their souls in a way.
2:40:55
I'm not really sure how they do it, but they're still in a
2:40:58
sense. But it's not killing them or
2:40:59
it's not like taking their full essence away, if that's making
2:41:02
sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:41:06
But it was a good movie. Yeah, and even last night, too,
2:41:09
I had a theory of like, well, if we also want to be that way too,
2:41:11
because in the song Golden, you know, Rumi talks about being a
2:41:15
queen. And if we want to take it that
2:41:17
route, maybe her father is like the true demon king.
2:41:20
And like, in the sense of like, demons aren't that bad.
2:41:24
And his ruling of demons, you know, to help, to help basically
2:41:29
bring them up to the shaman so they can help them pass on.
2:41:32
But then like, you know, Guima maybe have appeared and
2:41:35
overruled him, making him go into hiding.
2:41:37
And then he meets Rumi's mom. And then like, you know, maybe
2:41:41
Rumi's like a Princess. And that's how because also
2:41:44
another big factor is out of everybody, even the humans, Rumi
2:41:48
is the only person who cannot hear Guima at all.
2:41:51
So like, there's something in that to where why can she not
2:41:54
hear him? So it's either Rumi's mother
2:41:57
helped her father somehow find a way to break the control or her
2:42:01
father may be the true ruler. Again, those are my theories.
2:42:05
Who knows? Who knows, we'll have to wait
2:42:07
and see, but yes, there is a sequel.
2:42:10
If there is a sequel, which we're hoping for, I'm, I think,
2:42:13
I know they were saying like tracking and keeping it either
2:42:16
at #1 or high enough on Netflix may green light them until a
2:42:20
sequel. So we hope so and we will see.
2:42:23
But until I see the creators themselves celebrating that
2:42:26
there's gonna be a sequel. Word.
2:42:28
We're just not gonna believe all the rumors I've been seeing that
2:42:29
there is gonna be a sequel. So yeah, I would also like a
2:42:32
prequel cuz I really want to know more about not only her
2:42:34
parents but just like the creation of the hunters.
2:42:39
I want to see if my theories are correct.
2:42:41
I want to know what happened to make umm her mother fall in love
2:42:44
with a demon. Because I know there's also a
2:42:46
theory going around when I talked about the demon king that
2:42:49
Rumi may be Guima's daughter. But I'm like I feel like her
2:42:53
mother is like Rumi in a way to where like she had to be
2:42:57
convinced again from their teachings that demons are not
2:43:00
all bad. Like I envisioned her father
2:43:02
being like a genu to break her out of her teaching.
2:43:06
Yeah, to make her fall in love. I don't believe she would fall
2:43:09
in love with someone like Wima even if he tried to trick her.
2:43:12
So. And like from the picture again
2:43:14
I was talking about no. In the way that he was, and on
2:43:17
top of that he would have been able to control Roomie then.
2:43:21
Like it just, there's so much there that it's like, I don't
2:43:25
think that'd be possible for him to be +2.
2:43:28
Yeah, from the picture I was talking about earlier, like if
2:43:31
you see that picture, I'll try to find a way to maybe link it
2:43:34
from the social media. Like he looks in love with both
2:43:37
of them. So it's like you can't tell me
2:43:39
someone has that much love and adoration for not only her
2:43:41
mother and their child and then, I don't know, throws it away,
2:43:45
fakes it so. Yeah, but all right, well, that
2:43:50
was a good movie and review and hopefully everyone goes and
2:43:55
enjoys and supports not just, you know, the movie or the
2:44:00
creators, but also take a look into some of like the other
2:44:05
artists that are involved in this project, then maybe take a
2:44:07
look into their music. As well as the animators,
2:44:10
because a lot of them have been showing a lot of really cool,
2:44:12
like behind the scenes or like things that were cut out from
2:44:16
the original, like drawings. So it's been fun to find them
2:44:18
too and see like the process basically of making this movie
2:44:22
if you're also into like, art and all that.
2:44:25
Yeah, yeah. Definitely show some love.
2:44:30
Yes, yes. What we usually do when we do
2:44:32
these. Do you have a rating for this
2:44:33
movie? What's the height?
2:44:37
What's the highest rate? We usually do, like I think out
2:44:39
of 10. Oh, within 10 I love. 10 out of
2:44:43
10 this. Movie will be my favorite movie
2:44:46
of the year. I already told you that.
2:44:48
So yeah, this I'll. Also give it a 10 out of 10.
2:44:51
Although it is battling with Sinners, I'm going to say it's
2:44:55
like this and Sinners are up there as far as my favorite
2:44:58
movies out of the year, which is a compliment because I don't
2:45:00
remember the last time I've had a battle of like movies like
2:45:04
that as far as favorites. So yeah, definitely so, unless
2:45:10
something else comes out later on.
2:45:12
But so far I'm very picky when it comes to movies.
2:45:14
I still have to go and see Sinners so.
2:45:17
It's on streaming, so if you have Max, it's on there now.
2:45:21
HBO Max now. I'm sorry they changed the name
2:45:24
again. Yeah, no surprise there.
2:45:28
Yes, I also give it a 10 out of 10.
2:45:30
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2:45:33
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