Latest / I Am All In with Scott Patterson / Luke Sent Muffins (S4 E3 "The Hobbit, the Sofa, and Digger Stiles”)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I am all in. Oh, that's just you. I am
- 0:17Speaker 1: all in with Scott Patterson and I heart radio podcast. Everybody,
- 0:21Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, I'm all on podcast. I'm joining with my
- 0:24Speaker 1: intrepid team. Daniel Romo terror Suit. Amy Sugarman has arrived,
- 0:29Speaker 1: and we may all begin. We may all begin, And Amy,
- 0:33Speaker 1: I see you are in your rumpus room in your house.
- 0:36Speaker 1: I love that you called it a rumpus room because
- 0:38Speaker 1: that shows how old we are. But it's my I'm
- 0:42Speaker 1: in my garage. I love a rumpus room. A rumpus
- 0:46Speaker 1: room is so epic. I actually picture uh Rory and
- 0:50Speaker 1: Lorela like loving a rumpus room. I think they would.
- 0:53Speaker 1: I think I think they would. Um. Alright, so who's
- 0:57Speaker 1: gonna Who's gonna take us away with our sin? Is
- 1:00Speaker 1: going to synopsize? Is that Danielle? Yeah? This is season four,
- 1:04Speaker 1: episode three, The Hobbit, the Sofa and Digger Styles Air date,
- 1:08Speaker 1: air date October seven, two thousand three, and the synopsis
- 1:13Speaker 1: is classes are starting at Yale and Rory is eager
- 1:16Speaker 1: to show up early. The first party is also being
- 1:19Speaker 1: held on Rory's floor, and Paris wants to make sure
- 1:21Speaker 1: it goes perfectly Emily and Richard go into business with
- 1:24Speaker 1: someone unexpected, and Suki and Lori like hater a Lord
- 1:28Speaker 1: of the Rings kids party where Suki has second thoughts
- 1:30Speaker 1: on becoming a mother. Well well well well well well
- 1:35Speaker 1: well well well were you in it? I think you
- 1:39Speaker 1: weren't in it. I don't think I was in it.
- 1:41Speaker 1: I don't think so either. Yea, yeah, So that's I mean,
- 1:44Speaker 1: if we're going to judge it by you know, one
- 1:47Speaker 1: to ten dorm rooms, what are we giving it. I'm
- 1:49Speaker 1: knocking off a dorm room. It's already starting at a nine. Okay,
- 1:53Speaker 1: even if it's like the greatest episode ever. There was
- 1:56Speaker 1: a reference to uh giving Rory what that muffins? Yeah? Yeah,
- 2:02Speaker 1: Suki sent the cookies and Luke sent the muffins, and
- 2:06Speaker 1: believe it or not, for that, I did receive a
- 2:08Speaker 1: full paycheck. Yeah. Yes, that is an interesting question, Like
- 2:16Speaker 1: if you're a regular, they have an episode that you're
- 2:19Speaker 1: not in, Like the week before that, Melissa wasn't in
- 2:22Speaker 1: all episodes produced. It's called all episodes cool, so nice?
- 2:27Speaker 1: So what do you think? What do you guys think? Um,
- 2:32Speaker 1: I'll let you guys start. Danielle, what do you think? Oh,
- 2:37Speaker 1: okay um. I thought it was great. I there's a
- 2:41Speaker 1: couple of things as a as a new person watching,
- 2:43Speaker 1: I'm like, who's this digger styles guy gonna be? Who's
- 2:46Speaker 1: the naked guy on the floor d and and Suki
- 2:51Speaker 1: being a mom. I think she's gonna be the best
- 2:53Speaker 1: moment ever. But there's a lot of things here that
- 2:55Speaker 1: are new as the first time watcher that I'm like,
- 2:58Speaker 1: I wonder who these people are going to be. Are
- 2:59Speaker 1: they to be really important people? I don't know yet,
- 3:02Speaker 1: but you know, it's exciting to meet new people. Oh.
- 3:06Speaker 1: I love that take on it. I just think it
- 3:09Speaker 1: introduces like the new dynamic on the show because now
- 3:13Speaker 1: you're getting these other characters in, You're getting Rory's roommates,
- 3:17Speaker 1: the other students, and then there's more between Laura, Lee
- 3:20Speaker 1: and Suki now because Rory's gone. So I think it's
- 3:23Speaker 1: just a fun It was a fun episode for the
- 3:25Speaker 1: new dynamic. I love it. For me, this episode was
- 3:32Speaker 1: I felt like it was ten minutes. I'm like, what
- 3:34Speaker 1: but so fast? And I love the technique of using
- 3:37Speaker 1: the telephone to be able to have the interaction between
- 3:42Speaker 1: these characters we love. So we saw great phone calls
- 3:45Speaker 1: between Rory and Loraa Lae. That felt almost like they
- 3:49Speaker 1: were in the same room. Super fast banter, and I
- 3:51Speaker 1: loved how they used parents calling Laura Lee to get
- 3:55Speaker 1: that interaction and then the to me that was a
- 3:58Speaker 1: game changer. From there, we felt like we were missing
- 4:01Speaker 1: some of these interactions, and Paris called her interesting, interesting, interesting, interesting. I, however,
- 4:09Speaker 1: am going to take a different view. Um. You know,
- 4:13Speaker 1: I kept watching and wondering who was missing. I kept
- 4:19Speaker 1: missing Stars Hollow as the Town, I missed everybody in
- 4:24Speaker 1: the cast that wasn't in this. I saw that Suki
- 4:28Speaker 1: had replaced Rory I had. I saw that Paris had
- 4:33Speaker 1: replaced Laureli. Uh. So now we're we're dealing with a
- 4:38Speaker 1: new environment in the dorm room. Yale New Haven has
- 4:43Speaker 1: not been established. I don't, you know, I don't know
- 4:46Speaker 1: what it looks like. All I am and is inside
- 4:48Speaker 1: this dorm room. I'm not even really on the campus
- 4:51Speaker 1: very much. I'm not in a classroom, I'm not anywhere.
- 4:54Speaker 1: So it's basically just Rory Um acting like she doesn't
- 4:59Speaker 1: want to interact with her new classmates, she doesn't want
- 5:02Speaker 1: to throw a party. Um and I saw these characters
- 5:08Speaker 1: in a in a way that I've never seen them
- 5:10Speaker 1: before in an environment that is brand new. So it's
- 5:15Speaker 1: three years established as stars Hollow and Babette and Miss
- 5:19Speaker 1: Patty and Kirk and Taylor and did And it's like
- 5:23Speaker 1: the humor for me really pops as commentary off of
- 5:27Speaker 1: all of these other characters and the zanies zane nous
- 5:30Speaker 1: and the and the beauty and the communal nature of
- 5:32Speaker 1: that town. That's what makes it warm and fuzzy. And
- 5:36Speaker 1: I found all of that missing, and I had a
- 5:39Speaker 1: very difficult time grasping or staying along with the ride. Um,
- 5:46Speaker 1: I think you're making a great point. It is missing
- 5:50Speaker 1: for me. I'm okay with this change. For me, it's
- 5:54Speaker 1: like giving it uh sort of a kick in the pants.
- 5:58Speaker 1: I'm not mad at the chain age. You're right, it's
- 6:01Speaker 1: definitely missing, but I'm enjoying what's happening. Well, Um, yeah,
- 6:09Speaker 1: I mean I made a whole list of like, you know,
- 6:12Speaker 1: Pairs is now a regular right now, She's gonna be
- 6:15Speaker 1: with Rory. Isn't that you know, strange bedfellows. We haven't
- 6:19Speaker 1: seen that before. We don't we don't see we don't
- 6:22Speaker 1: see mom and daughter together anymore. And this is the
- 6:25Speaker 1: core of the show, holding it together. That's the center
- 6:27Speaker 1: of the show. Everything else sort of revolves around that.
- 6:30Speaker 1: That's the universe. That's the sun. Now the Sun has
- 6:34Speaker 1: broken asunder and all of the other planets are missing,
- 6:38Speaker 1: and we've got these new moons we're dealing with all that.
- 6:40Speaker 1: So it's a whole new universe. It's a whole new
- 6:43Speaker 1: galaxy that we're exploring. And it felt, you know, kind
- 6:48Speaker 1: of flat to me. It's like I was, I don't know,
- 6:51Speaker 1: I didn't want to leave the spaceship. I like the
- 6:53Speaker 1: ship I'm on. You know what I'm saying. That's a
- 6:55Speaker 1: really good analogy. Analogy and say that her. I like
- 7:01Speaker 1: the ship we're on. So I think that's the thing.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Now there could be an element that I know the
- 7:06Speaker 1: ship and there are things coming that I love so much.
- 7:11Speaker 1: So maybe I'm just comfortable because I've already been there before.
- 7:14Speaker 1: Were you? And Danielle, you're like a little bit more
- 7:16Speaker 1: jarred by it. Yeah, I'm a little jarred by how
- 7:20Speaker 1: Rory is already struggling, how she's already anti social, how
- 7:24Speaker 1: she's got these odd ball roommates, um and you know,
- 7:28Speaker 1: the Paris flip out, Get Out, Get out, get out
- 7:30Speaker 1: of this thing. And Rory just says, well, because she
- 7:33Speaker 1: was happy, she wanted to, she was stoked, and she
- 7:36Speaker 1: didn't have to. Look like here she is making all
- 7:38Speaker 1: these new friends and then her her whacko roommate flips
- 7:42Speaker 1: out on everybody and kicks everybody out. She's not worried
- 7:46Speaker 1: about her reputation. You know, it's like she didn't have
- 7:48Speaker 1: to do it. She was like skilled by association, right, No,
- 7:54Speaker 1: they're like that woman's crazy, that gal's crazy. Whatever's granddaughter.
- 8:00Speaker 1: So she had so she can get away. D a
- 8:07Speaker 1: are all the way, man, I can do anything. Well
- 8:11Speaker 1: discusses maybe a little bit later, but I feel like
- 8:14Speaker 1: Rory just had the reason why we're kind of like, oh,
- 8:16Speaker 1: what's going on with her? She's being anti social. I
- 8:18Speaker 1: think she just hasn't found her person yet. Like in
- 8:20Speaker 1: Stars Hollow, that was Laine, that's her mom, and in
- 8:23Speaker 1: Yale she doesn't have that, you know, like these people
- 8:26Speaker 1: that are trying to be friends with her or people
- 8:28Speaker 1: that she's not like, she's not going to go to
- 8:32Speaker 1: college and suddenly be different. That is who Rory is.
- 8:36Speaker 1: She loves her books. She's just showing us that, like
- 8:38Speaker 1: she loves being alone in her room reading her books.
- 8:41Speaker 1: So she's being pretty consistent that she's trying. And Paris
- 8:44Speaker 1: same thing. Paris is crazy, and I love that she
- 8:48Speaker 1: was just Paris. But we felt that she was safe
- 8:52Speaker 1: and that she was going to be successful while she
- 8:54Speaker 1: was in her home with her mother in her bedroom
- 8:57Speaker 1: reading her book, with all this crazy stuff happening around her,
- 9:01Speaker 1: with the miss Patties and the tailor's and the chesses
- 9:04Speaker 1: and all the stuff. Right, you, she always had a
- 9:08Speaker 1: heart to come home to and she was always going
- 9:10Speaker 1: to be protected. She doesn't have that protection anymore. I
- 9:12Speaker 1: mean she does with her grandmother with her with her mother, sure,
- 9:16Speaker 1: but she's on her own now and it's it's a
- 9:19Speaker 1: little I don't know, it's a little scared. I think
- 9:22Speaker 1: that's why Laurel I was like, maybe you should open
- 9:24Speaker 1: your door for the party, like out there, and that's
- 9:28Speaker 1: why like that second, sorry we're jumping around, but when
- 9:32Speaker 1: she like opens the book and she's like, no, I
- 9:34Speaker 1: shouldn't be doing this and she goes back out on
- 9:35Speaker 1: the party, she's like she's listening to Laurel. Yeah, and
- 9:39Speaker 1: she's trying, and I love it. And Paris tried for
- 9:42Speaker 1: one episode to be a kind normal person with her
- 9:45Speaker 1: life coach, and now she's back because she's like, I'm
- 9:48Speaker 1: not having fun. They're just not there yet. I like, yeah,
- 9:54Speaker 1: they agreed to one candle before we dig in. I
- 9:58Speaker 1: want to know what Scott and Dan, you'll think of
- 10:00Speaker 1: two people, Marty and Digger? Go ahead? Yeah? All right?
- 10:08Speaker 1: Um Marty, I was like, whatever, okay, Um, obviously there's
- 10:14Speaker 1: there might be something you know, uh, awaiting Rory in
- 10:19Speaker 1: the future for potential love interest there um and Digger?
- 10:24Speaker 1: What did I think? You know what I thought about Digger? Right? Well,
- 10:30Speaker 1: I didn't think about Digger, but I thought about Richard.
- 10:32Speaker 1: I thought, why is Richard so blind? And Emily has
- 10:35Speaker 1: a point, and I understand why Emily popped at him.
- 10:38Speaker 1: Why are you getting involved with somebody's son who has
- 10:41Speaker 1: a revenge game going? Aren't you smarter than that? Don't
- 10:45Speaker 1: you see that this is never going to be successful?
- 10:48Speaker 1: And why would you do this? And aren't you sensitive
- 10:50Speaker 1: to what we've been going through with our own daughter,
- 10:52Speaker 1: who's you know, seeking revenge on us? Yeah? But it's like,
- 10:59Speaker 1: why didn't just see the shot? Is he so blinded
- 11:02Speaker 1: by his own need for revenge that he's gonna get
- 11:05Speaker 1: involved with Digger and do this thing, which you know
- 11:08Speaker 1: in the middle of it, Digger is going to go
- 11:09Speaker 1: you know, I think I've made a mistake. I'm gonna
- 11:11Speaker 1: go back to my family. I mean, it's like Digger
- 11:13Speaker 1: gave him a solid pitch. I I just I was
- 11:16Speaker 1: surprised that Richard fell for it, you know, because it
- 11:19Speaker 1: felt to me like a setup. It felt to me
- 11:22Speaker 1: like there's going to be more pain for Richard coming, Like,
- 11:25Speaker 1: how are you trusting the son of the man who
- 11:27Speaker 1: fired you after you gave your heart and soul for
- 11:30Speaker 1: thirty five years or forty years to that firm. Interesting point,
- 11:34Speaker 1: and Richard's doing so well on his own. He didn't
- 11:36Speaker 1: really mean Digger, but I think he also Richard wants
- 11:40Speaker 1: to win, and he wants to beat the guy that
- 11:42Speaker 1: fired him, Diggers. Diggers the Trojan horse, and he led
- 11:45Speaker 1: him in. I mean, it's just boy. Yeah. So Christopher Aigman,
- 11:55Speaker 1: I don't want to say his name wrong plays Digger.
- 11:57Speaker 1: The one thing I will say is I feel like
- 11:59Speaker 1: an he's also on Masal. He knows how to do
- 12:03Speaker 1: that Gilmore script, because I felt like right away he
- 12:09Speaker 1: was nailing it. He was. He had the jokes, he
- 12:12Speaker 1: had the rhythm, so I felt very comfortable with him immediately. Yeah,
- 12:16Speaker 1: he's very waspy in that character. He's very waspy, right,
- 12:19Speaker 1: So he's upper krusty, waspy guy, Harvard Grad and uh
- 12:24Speaker 1: and I haven't seen Myzelle and I haven't seen him
- 12:28Speaker 1: in it. He's got a small part, but he's great.
- 12:30Speaker 1: Like he you know, he's he just immediately to me,
- 12:34Speaker 1: fits in in the rhythm. Yeah, without without question. But
- 12:38Speaker 1: I am surprised that Richard fell for it so quickly.
- 12:40Speaker 1: I mean, this was an obvious trojan horse to me.
- 12:43Speaker 1: And we'll see how it develops. I don't know how
- 12:44Speaker 1: it develops, but we'll send you anyway. Um, so let's
- 12:48Speaker 1: break it down, you know. That's that's that's what my
- 12:51Speaker 1: overall initial impression was. After finishing the episode, I was,
- 12:57Speaker 1: I don't know, I was I was thinking, you know, like,
- 13:00Speaker 1: did this show just jumped the shark? What's going on here?
- 13:02Speaker 1: We got to get it back to stars Hallow. We
- 13:04Speaker 1: got to get back in the space capsule and get
- 13:06Speaker 1: back to the planet stars Hollow. You know, So I
- 13:10Speaker 1: like where you're that you're bringing that up, But to me,
- 13:13Speaker 1: I was just as happy. When we segue a scene
- 13:16Speaker 1: back to heart to Yale, I'm like, this is great.
- 13:19Speaker 1: I love it here. I don't know, I don't know.
- 13:22Speaker 1: I like Yale. I think it's because like also, like
- 13:26Speaker 1: like I said, how the graduation episode kind of closed
- 13:30Speaker 1: that chapter. I think that now, like when you're so
- 13:33Speaker 1: comfortable being and start, it's like Rory, she was so
- 13:35Speaker 1: comfortable and now you're like, oh my god, where is
- 13:37Speaker 1: this place? I don't know? Where's that bad? Where's this fatty?
- 13:40Speaker 1: Like you don't know where all these places are. But
- 13:42Speaker 1: I think it's just like we're growing up with her.
- 13:44Speaker 1: I think that's yeah. I agree. And then it makes
- 13:47Speaker 1: it because obviously, like Rory is going to go back
- 13:49Speaker 1: to Stars Hollow at some point, you know what I mean.
- 13:51Speaker 1: And so it makes me look forward to those scenes
- 13:53Speaker 1: where she is back. It's, you know, um, like distance
- 13:58Speaker 1: makes the heart grow fonder, Like I make sited for
- 14:00Speaker 1: when when we will have those episodes where Rory is uh,
- 14:04Speaker 1: you know, goes back to Josie's market, goes back to
- 14:06Speaker 1: the diner. Like I'm excited for that, but I'm also
- 14:09Speaker 1: enjoying Yale at the time. Being. I wonder, Scott if sorry,
- 14:14Speaker 1: I wonder I have a question for you. I wonder
- 14:16Speaker 1: if they hadn't pretended she just didn't go to Yale
- 14:19Speaker 1: and she went to like the Stars all of college?
- 14:22Speaker 1: Whatever would you be? Would you be watching it? And
- 14:27Speaker 1: would you be would you be bored? Maybe the change
- 14:31Speaker 1: is like jarring for you. But I wonder if they
- 14:34Speaker 1: made a great call, because this show is not monotonous.
- 14:38Speaker 1: I feel like, here we are in season four, firing
- 14:41Speaker 1: on all cylinders top of the Gilmore game. I'm not bored.
- 14:45Speaker 1: It's not a typical season four where you're like, it's
- 14:48Speaker 1: just the same old, same old modern family, you know. Whatever.
- 14:52Speaker 1: What I'm doing is I'm questioning the wisdom of getting
- 14:57Speaker 1: her off to college after only three seasons, and was
- 15:01Speaker 1: thinking this should have been dragged out for six or
- 15:05Speaker 1: seven seasons, keep her in high school for six or
- 15:08Speaker 1: seven seasons, and then ship her off to college, because
- 15:12Speaker 1: once you leave that Stars hollow, that's a tough sledding.
- 15:16Speaker 1: And I know the fans still love it, and I
- 15:18Speaker 1: know it's a very very loyal fan base, but for
- 15:22Speaker 1: me personally watching this show as a fan, discovering it
- 15:26Speaker 1: for the first time, I want to be in Stars. Hum,
- 15:29Speaker 1: I don't want to be a Yale. Yes, people agree
- 15:32Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, I'm sure I want to. I mean
- 15:35Speaker 1: they could have you know, milked you know one what
- 15:39Speaker 1: was she going as a junior or software? She wanted
- 15:41Speaker 1: to Chilton as a sophomore. Okay, so that's three three
- 15:44Speaker 1: years you've got there. You can do two seasons per year, right,
- 15:50Speaker 1: people agree with you. You can do what you can
- 15:52Speaker 1: do two seasons per year. You can do it. Want
- 15:55Speaker 1: to be in the summer seven years and done with Chilton.
- 15:59Speaker 1: I'm done with Childen. Done what they but but you
- 16:01Speaker 1: could but you could have done it because you know,
- 16:04Speaker 1: Alexis looked so young anyway. I mean Lane was twenty
- 16:07Speaker 1: seven and playing high school. But like Chicken, Madeline Louise,
- 16:10Speaker 1: I don't need to you know what I mean. Like,
- 16:12Speaker 1: they're fine, cool, they showed up great, like oh, you know, applause, applause,
- 16:16Speaker 1: and you know that's that's that's another point. You're not
- 16:19Speaker 1: only out of Stars Hollow, you're out of Chilton. We
- 16:22Speaker 1: got to know all those people, those whether we love
- 16:25Speaker 1: them or hate and we want to bring their next
- 16:27Speaker 1: or we want to be friends with them. We were
- 16:29Speaker 1: familiar with them, we know them. They give us comfort
- 16:32Speaker 1: familiarly like change, let's let's really, let's not on this show. Yeah,
- 16:37Speaker 1: because I love the change. I love that we went
- 16:41Speaker 1: from Dean to jail. I love that I know Logan.
- 16:44Speaker 1: So wait a minute. So they go from a fancy, tony,
- 16:47Speaker 1: expensive private school, which Chilton is. We see the interiors,
- 16:51Speaker 1: we get a sense of it, we can smell it,
- 16:53Speaker 1: we see all the uniforms, we see everything that's going
- 16:56Speaker 1: on the teachers, and then we get to we get
- 16:57Speaker 1: to Yale, there's none of that, and Yale is one
- 17:00Speaker 1: the most regal universities in the world. You're just mad
- 17:03Speaker 1: that we're only filming in the dorm. Yes, it's it's
- 17:06Speaker 1: like it's boring. It's like, get out of the dorm
- 17:08Speaker 1: show us. I don't know you're gonna send her to Yale.
- 17:10Speaker 1: Go film it Yale or one class at Whale. And
- 17:14Speaker 1: I didn't feel that whe when they went to empty table. Yeah,
- 17:18Speaker 1: she showed up so early and Marty to but also
- 17:23Speaker 1: this is day one, Like this is day on one
- 17:25Speaker 1: of I feel like I'm fighting for stars because there
- 17:32Speaker 1: I will say that, like the episode that we're in,
- 17:35Speaker 1: like she's it's school has barely started yet, like she
- 17:38Speaker 1: is trying to get comfortable on campus in her dorm.
- 17:42Speaker 1: So we haven't even gotten to like the nitty gritties
- 17:44Speaker 1: of her classes, her teachers and so on. Okay, but
- 17:47Speaker 1: the creators have to know and the network has to
- 17:50Speaker 1: know that we are leaving Chilton, which we love as
- 17:54Speaker 1: an audience. We are we've established all the those locations
- 17:57Speaker 1: and all those teachers and and the headmaster. We haven't
- 18:00Speaker 1: met anybody at Yale. We haven't met that. Yeah, we've
- 18:04Speaker 1: met the roommates and we've met Marty. I don't care
- 18:06Speaker 1: about the dean. Okay, we've met a couple of girls
- 18:11Speaker 1: in a in an outdoor corridor, but we haven't seen
- 18:15Speaker 1: the campus. We haven't care. We don't get a sense.
- 18:18Speaker 1: I'm not getting a sense of it. But I haven't
- 18:20Speaker 1: established Yale for me. Respect to you, but I don't care.
- 18:23Speaker 1: And also I don't care about children. I'm done with children.
- 18:27Speaker 1: You know who I care about, Rory. That's who I
- 18:30Speaker 1: care about, Rory. So I don't care about Chiltern. Goodbye Chiltern.
- 18:34Speaker 1: I was bored by you. Now here we go like
- 18:36Speaker 1: I am bored by you and your static photo every
- 18:39Speaker 1: time we went to Chiltern. I'm ready for Rory. I
- 18:43Speaker 1: don't really for me, I thought me conversations, we're also good.
- 18:51Speaker 1: It just I loved this. I thought it moves. Wait
- 18:55Speaker 1: a minute, you didn't think that the Suki freak out
- 18:57Speaker 1: about get it out of me, get it out of me,
- 18:59Speaker 1: get it out of me? Was bizarre. No, I loved
- 19:01Speaker 1: every second of it because it's also this. I wrote
- 19:04Speaker 1: this down. One of my very favorite scenes ever on
- 19:07Speaker 1: Sex in the City is when Carrie Bradshaw puts on
- 19:10Speaker 1: her wedding dress and she literally realizes I can't get married,
- 19:16Speaker 1: and she says, get it off, get it off, and
- 19:17Speaker 1: they're like literally ripping it off of her and it's
- 19:21Speaker 1: hilarious and emotional. And I felt the same way about this.
- 19:25Speaker 1: I thought that scene between Lauren and Melissa Suki and
- 19:29Speaker 1: lor la was one of their best scenes in the
- 19:31Speaker 1: whole run of the series. It was so well done.
- 19:34Speaker 1: Melissa McCarthy, to me, won this episode, won the episode
- 19:39Speaker 1: because we got to see her be different than just pratfalls.
- 19:42Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, she's amazing. Mm hmmm, yeah, Okay,
- 19:49Speaker 1: go back to the beginning. So what do you think
- 19:52Speaker 1: that obviously we opened up in the dorm room. We've
- 19:54Speaker 1: got the rug, we've got the this, we've got the muffins,
- 19:56Speaker 1: we got the cookies. And Laura Lyne knows my there
- 20:00Speaker 1: was here. She can smell her guilt and Chanelle number five,
- 20:05Speaker 1: this is this is another issue I have. It's like,
- 20:08Speaker 1: just take the gift, you know, be grateful the grandmother care.
- 20:13Speaker 1: She furnished the place, and they're trying to create all
- 20:16Speaker 1: this drama and all these issues about something that they
- 20:20Speaker 1: should be thanking her for. In my opinion, they can
- 20:23Speaker 1: be thanking her issue. The place wasn't furnished. There was
- 20:27Speaker 1: no new new furniture. Yet this is the opening where
- 20:30Speaker 1: Lorelai knows that Emily has been there ahead and sorry,
- 20:34Speaker 1: it's okay, that's okay, you're fired. Okay, you're fired. So
- 20:39Speaker 1: we have the hint there because I thought to myself,
- 20:44Speaker 1: was Emily, there is Emily there? Like I knew Lorelai
- 20:48Speaker 1: was probably right for sure, you don't have that scene
- 20:52Speaker 1: and not have Emily later, you know. So then we
- 20:56Speaker 1: have the scene in class where we first see Marty,
- 20:59Speaker 1: so we basically lee what I took aways, like Rory
- 21:02Speaker 1: showed up literally so early and so did this other guy.
- 21:07Speaker 1: Oh my god, they're they're kindred souls. And then the
- 21:11Speaker 1: t A is like, you idiot freshman. I like how
- 21:14Speaker 1: Laurel I was like every year you try to convince
- 21:17Speaker 1: me that the teacher wants me, Like, no teacher wants
- 21:22Speaker 1: to meet at six thirty. That just shows who she is.
- 21:25Speaker 1: And like I like that she had another another person
- 21:28Speaker 1: in the class with her, like, oh I'm not the
- 21:30Speaker 1: only one. Yeah, that's cute. Yeah. So we're look, we're
- 21:33Speaker 1: meeting Marty and that's a big deal, like, okay, here
- 21:37Speaker 1: here he is. No, Scott's just you didn't like it. No,
- 21:45Speaker 1: I'm I'm listening. I'm listening. You know. It didn't impact
- 21:49Speaker 1: me in any way. Really, it was just like whatever.
- 21:51Speaker 1: So then we go back and we're in Suki Suki's
- 21:54Speaker 1: kitchen and Jackson's doing his bit with the baby monitor,
- 21:58Speaker 1: and we kind of and that they want to have
- 22:00Speaker 1: a catering job. Also awful, like your sound system in
- 22:06Speaker 1: your house hooked up to the baby monitor. That would
- 22:09Speaker 1: drive me bonkers. That was pretty funny though, Um you
- 22:14Speaker 1: know we I almost did that. We had monitors upstairs
- 22:17Speaker 1: and we had paranoid dad. Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah,
- 22:23Speaker 1: it was very protective. You relate to Jackson in that
- 22:26Speaker 1: oh yeah, big time, big time. Yeah, I mean, and
- 22:29Speaker 1: in that regard, yes, I had that house sort of
- 22:32Speaker 1: bugged and there was video everywhere. I mean, that kid,
- 22:36Speaker 1: that kid couldn't make a move or a poop or
- 22:38Speaker 1: a fart without me knowing about it, Like there he
- 22:42Speaker 1: goes again. So I think that that's cute then that
- 22:46Speaker 1: Jackson is that way for me. One of the questions
- 22:48Speaker 1: I have throughout this whole episode is how did they
- 22:51Speaker 1: get permission to use all those Lord of the Rings things?
- 22:55Speaker 1: Is Lord of the Rings Warner Brothers? I believe, I believe,
- 22:59Speaker 1: I believe that. I believe that it is a Warner
- 23:02Speaker 1: Brothers thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because that's the only way,
- 23:07Speaker 1: because it was pretty extensive, wasn't. It wasn't like one reference,
- 23:11Speaker 1: it was it was major. It was it's Warner Brothers.
- 23:16Speaker 1: And yeah that was even Yeah, they even played like
- 23:20Speaker 1: a clip of totally that was like, how did they
- 23:25Speaker 1: get permission? So it must have been it was just
- 23:27Speaker 1: a phone call in a favor, and sure, go Ahead
- 23:30Speaker 1: might have been stoked because it was great advertising for them.
- 23:34Speaker 1: Why not? And I also liked it because it made
- 23:36Speaker 1: that whole birthday party more authentic. It would have been
- 23:38Speaker 1: weird if it was like not it really was integrated nicely.
- 23:43Speaker 1: But anyway, so Helen Thompson wants to hire them for
- 23:46Speaker 1: Aaron's birthday and uh, yeah, so we know they're going
- 23:52Speaker 1: to take this gig and we'll see how that goes. Right.
- 23:56Speaker 1: Right then we come in to the dorm and there
- 24:00Speaker 1: is the furniture. Great first of all, great by me too,
- 24:04Speaker 1: but I understand it. Yeah, I thought it's not college furniture, though,
- 24:13Speaker 1: come on, nice and comfy stuff. I would have been
- 24:15Speaker 1: happy as a clam. You should see you should have
- 24:17Speaker 1: seen my room in college. Oh boy, all I could
- 24:20Speaker 1: think of was Laura Ashley and Pierre do like. I
- 24:23Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is Emily doing her the Entertainment
- 24:27Speaker 1: Center with with five point one surround sounds, and my
- 24:32Speaker 1: favorite is like this is a plasma TV. Like but
- 24:40Speaker 1: it's a lot of a grandma. If my grandma came
- 24:42Speaker 1: in and did that in my room, I might be like, yeah,
- 24:45Speaker 1: the hell, And I would definitely call my mom and
- 24:48Speaker 1: be like, Mom, Grahamy just redid my whole room without
- 24:52Speaker 1: me even knowing. Yeah, we sure all have such grandmothers.
- 24:57Speaker 1: So let me tell you that that's that's a pretty
- 24:59Speaker 1: nice thing. I mean I do. I did have those grandmothers,
- 25:03Speaker 1: and I was like, my grandma wouldn't have snuck into
- 25:07Speaker 1: my room and done it, But I had those grandmothers
- 25:10Speaker 1: that were like totally would have done that. And I
- 25:13Speaker 1: have a mom that would. My mom would come into
- 25:15Speaker 1: my house and redecorate the whole thing, like literally if
- 25:17Speaker 1: I went out of town. So for me, that was
- 25:19Speaker 1: totally relatable and like, oh, yeah, this is this happens.
- 25:24Speaker 1: I loved it. I think, yeah, I would have gotten
- 25:28Speaker 1: on the phone and thanked him profousely. Yeah. So we
- 25:36Speaker 1: then see Laura Laie for one of just a few
- 25:38Speaker 1: times in this series with her glasses on. Yeah, she looked.
- 25:48Speaker 1: She looks so cute in this whole episode. Oh my god,
- 25:50Speaker 1: I'm just obsessed with that. She's cute and the fashion.
- 25:54Speaker 1: I'm just obsessed with her. But yeah, she was wearing
- 25:56Speaker 1: her glasses and she they you see it a few
- 25:59Speaker 1: times throughout the series, and she talks about the Lord
- 26:02Speaker 1: of the Rings party and she talks about the jeeps
- 26:04Speaker 1: making a noise. Then we get the phone call with
- 26:07Speaker 1: Rory to complain about what Grandma's done, which I I
- 26:10Speaker 1: just loved that because Scott, I feel like you would
- 26:13Speaker 1: be so happy because it's giving you that interaction with
- 26:20Speaker 1: what on on phones, But now it's phone calls, and
- 26:23Speaker 1: I thought I wasn't mad at it. I'm telling you,
- 26:26Speaker 1: the death of a TV series is people on the phone. Okay,
- 26:30Speaker 1: It's like it doesn't work, it's not good. You gotta
- 26:34Speaker 1: be together. I've kind of gone to a point where
- 26:38Speaker 1: like I'm a little over Lordly complaining about her parents.
- 26:43Speaker 1: I am too. I was just like enough with this
- 26:47Speaker 1: is the evil woman with her manipulative ways giving you
- 26:51Speaker 1: a really nice couch. It's like, can you stop? Like
- 26:55Speaker 1: I kind of wish or hope that, Like when Rory
- 26:58Speaker 1: does call lor lyon say oh my gosh, Grandma did this,
- 27:02Speaker 1: I kind of wish Lorela was just like okay, yeah, sure,
- 27:06Speaker 1: and like not not. I I don't know. I got
- 27:10Speaker 1: I'm over her being like, oh, well of course she did.
- 27:13Speaker 1: She's trying to manipulate you. You know, like that kind
- 27:15Speaker 1: of stuff is kind of over for me. But I
- 27:18Speaker 1: do love that, like Rory is kind of like I'm
- 27:21Speaker 1: going to stand up to Grandma and then just doesn't
- 27:26Speaker 1: stand up for what for being nice? I mean she
- 27:29Speaker 1: should have center a thank you card. Point Scott, that's
- 27:32Speaker 1: a fair point. I mean she went out of her
- 27:34Speaker 1: way and spent a lot of or something. I mean,
- 27:39Speaker 1: let's are on the side of caution here and be
- 27:41Speaker 1: a little grateful. But you know, then it wouldn't be dramedy,
- 27:45Speaker 1: wouldn't quick shout out to lorialize gold necklace with that circle,
- 27:52Speaker 1: very delicate chain circle. Alright gold Nicholas ch Okay. So
- 27:58Speaker 1: then we see Richard and Emily, and Emily is looking
- 28:01Speaker 1: at fabrics and she tells Richard that Jason Styles has called,
- 28:07Speaker 1: and Richard's obviously like w tf, digger, And I love
- 28:15Speaker 1: that he says, they will not be a drink. There's
- 28:18Speaker 1: not going to be a hand Like the drink is
- 28:20Speaker 1: such a symbol for these people of like if you
- 28:23Speaker 1: get to the drink, it's like on the Tonight Show,
- 28:26Speaker 1: remember if you got to sit on the couch with
- 28:28Speaker 1: Johnny after doing your stand up. Yeah, to me, that's
- 28:32Speaker 1: the drink, Like, okay, you've made it to the next
- 28:35Speaker 1: made it. Yeah. He was feeling the sting of getting
- 28:41Speaker 1: let go too much and he was too vulnerable and
- 28:44Speaker 1: now he's going to get used. Maybe were you happy
- 28:46Speaker 1: to see Richard and Emily back? Yeah, it was like
- 28:49Speaker 1: finally some some there, familiar people that we know and
- 28:53Speaker 1: love in their in their environment. And that's where we
- 28:57Speaker 1: want to say, don't they establish No, it's not a
- 29:00Speaker 1: question of that. It's like, you've got something successful and
- 29:04Speaker 1: we've established locations. I'm repeating myself, Uh, don't take them
- 29:08Speaker 1: out of those locations. Don't fix it if it ain't broke.
- 29:11Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. It's like friends, we always
- 29:14Speaker 1: had the six of them in every episode, and there
- 29:17Speaker 1: would be like little tiny people here and there, but
- 29:20Speaker 1: you never didn't have the six of them. So maybe
- 29:23Speaker 1: what you're feeling is like we had the ten of them,
- 29:26Speaker 1: and now we only have four of them, right, and
- 29:31Speaker 1: a bunch of random people that we don't know, and
- 29:33Speaker 1: we haven't gotten to know, and we maybe not don't
- 29:36Speaker 1: even care to get to know. I get to I care.
- 29:43Speaker 1: She came back from dinner like I told you. Yeah, yeah,
- 29:47Speaker 1: but we didn't even get to the dinner table. We
- 29:50Speaker 1: just got to some like folk controversation, which she backed
- 29:52Speaker 1: down from. Alright, alright, alright, okay, one shout out about
- 29:59Speaker 1: rich Richard saying harrass instead of her grass yes on
- 30:06Speaker 1: the st yeah, shout out, yeah, I noticed that. Okay,
- 30:14Speaker 1: So now we've got Harris and she wants Rory to
- 30:17Speaker 1: open the door. She is like really big on this
- 30:20Speaker 1: party and the whole thing. I love him. A good idea, right,
- 30:26Speaker 1: and she goes, you're suck up furniture exactly what they
- 30:31Speaker 1: should do. It was a good idea. Paris was in
- 30:33Speaker 1: the right. I was like to for wanting to try.
- 30:36Speaker 1: She goes, I hate college. They do seem a little
- 30:41Speaker 1: bit like they haven't embraced I mean like I remember
- 30:44Speaker 1: my first few days of college and it was like,
- 30:47Speaker 1: oh my god, it was so fun. Like so I
- 30:50Speaker 1: do feel like they maybe, you know, they do have
- 30:53Speaker 1: this room filled with odd balls, because they've got Tana Shrik,
- 30:57Speaker 1: who's like literally I think fifteen and a half. She said,
- 30:59Speaker 1: she's think seen for like her birthday was coming. We've
- 31:02Speaker 1: got the exercise Girl, which actually is a lot of
- 31:08Speaker 1: that's pretty real. And then we've got crazy Paris and Rory.
- 31:11Speaker 1: So they are sort of an island of misfit. But
- 31:14Speaker 1: if you had that much free food and that much
- 31:16Speaker 1: free pizza and that much drink and all that stuff.
- 31:18Speaker 1: That place would have been jammed to the rafters and
- 31:21Speaker 1: you wouldn't have gotten people out of there no matter what.
- 31:24Speaker 1: But they're also like, between Paris and Rory, they don't
- 31:27Speaker 1: know how to throw a party for people their age,
- 31:30Speaker 1: Like they didn't go to ragers in high school. They don't.
- 31:32Speaker 1: They don't know. So like for them, that one candle
- 31:35Speaker 1: with Rory's version of a party is like take Out
- 31:38Speaker 1: in the movie, you know. I mean, I'm glad they
- 31:42Speaker 1: opened the door. I think that was very good that
- 31:44Speaker 1: Lora La also convinced Rory like open open the door.
- 31:49Speaker 1: So okay. So then we're going back and forth now
- 31:51Speaker 1: between Yale and the birthday party. So oh and we
- 31:56Speaker 1: do have a moment where we see Lane. So Lane
- 31:58Speaker 1: comes in. We got Lane for like a pot. Second
- 32:04Speaker 1: Lane comes in with some props from antiques. So they
- 32:10Speaker 1: figured out a way to get you can tell they're like,
- 32:12Speaker 1: how do we get this person in there? How we're
- 32:14Speaker 1: going to get these people back in there? Did I
- 32:16Speaker 1: walk by the door and wave or something? You delivered muffins?
- 32:21Speaker 1: You muffins? Just yeah, you got just you were only
- 32:24Speaker 1: there in the name in spirit. Although Luke was very prominent,
- 32:30Speaker 1: very prominent in the week before. Ye very like the
- 32:37Speaker 1: rest too much. Well, you don't think an audience can
- 32:42Speaker 1: handle two weeks and we get we get the five
- 32:44Speaker 1: that Lane school is very strict because she like, we're
- 32:47Speaker 1: embracing and then uh I loved lordl shirt love the
- 32:54Speaker 1: one you're with. Got to give a fashion mention. Mrs
- 32:57Speaker 1: kim No, Mrs kim No, No Taylor, no, nobody, nobody,
- 33:02Speaker 1: no Kirk no Taylor. We did get a phone call
- 33:06Speaker 1: from Paris, So then what did you think about Paris
- 33:08Speaker 1: calling Laura Lines saying Rory's not adjusting well? God another
- 33:13Speaker 1: phone call, because also, like Paris is such a thirty
- 33:17Speaker 1: year old, you know what I mean, Like she's so
- 33:19Speaker 1: not college Like anybody who's saying that, like a friend
- 33:23Speaker 1: that would was actually concerned would have been like, hey,
- 33:26Speaker 1: Mrs Gilmore, I feel like maybe, um, we should talk
- 33:30Speaker 1: to Rory or something like not like she's not adjusting
- 33:33Speaker 1: well to college, Like she's just such a grown up.
- 33:36Speaker 1: I just love that Laura La convinces Rory to open
- 33:39Speaker 1: the door, and she somehow Paris yells like I care
- 33:43Speaker 1: about the reason. That's a good line, Like I care
- 33:47Speaker 1: about the reason. Does anybody feel like Paris and Rory
- 33:50Speaker 1: have a sister le vibe? To me, that's very sisterly
- 33:54Speaker 1: the way they are said, say, Paris is definitely well
- 33:58Speaker 1: yeah to Paris is the older mean her sister, and
- 34:02Speaker 1: I thought we also learned why Paris is so hell
- 34:05Speaker 1: bent on these certain things. She wants to start over,
- 34:09Speaker 1: she wants a fresh start, she wants to she wants
- 34:12Speaker 1: to be cool, she wants to have people like her,
- 34:15Speaker 1: and she has made one hell of an impression. Well
- 34:22Speaker 1: struck McEnroe, get out of here, everybody out. Now. Have
- 34:26Speaker 1: you ever done that at a party when somebody pissed
- 34:28Speaker 1: Joe so much? She just kicked everybody out? Have you
- 34:31Speaker 1: ever done that? Have you ever been to a party
- 34:33Speaker 1: where that happens? Yeah, I've been. I've been parties for sure, sure,
- 34:38Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, it's uh, it's people talk about it
- 34:42Speaker 1: for months. Mostly the party they had, you know, senior
- 34:45Speaker 1: year where the cops came was that was pretty spot
- 34:49Speaker 1: on of how those high school parties go. So that
- 34:52Speaker 1: are not just someone raged, get out of my you know,
- 34:55Speaker 1: A better episode, a better episode would have been par
- 35:00Speaker 1: Us drunk off her out of her gourd Oh my god,
- 35:02Speaker 1: I just dancing the limbo and just like just rocking out,
- 35:06Speaker 1: you know, because all that crazy energy could have been
- 35:10Speaker 1: what would have happened if you apply alcohol to it's
- 35:14Speaker 1: some cool music and just let just wind up Paris
- 35:17Speaker 1: and let her go in a scene. We'll get to
- 35:20Speaker 1: make it marty. But okay, so let's quickly talk about
- 35:23Speaker 1: the Lord of the Rings party. We're we've bounced around
- 35:26Speaker 1: as much. Who knew that Suki was going to mess
- 35:29Speaker 1: up the food? I mean I saw that coming from yes,
- 35:32Speaker 1: literally from a mile away. When she grabbed the giant salmon.
- 35:37Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, the green mac and cheese.
- 35:42Speaker 1: It's so true, Like even though it's a mag and cheese,
- 35:45Speaker 1: the fact that it's green, No child under the age
- 35:48Speaker 1: of ten is going to eat that or go near it. Yeah. Wait,
- 35:51Speaker 1: do you know who the little girl was who said
- 35:53Speaker 1: this taste like diapers? Do you know that actress? No?
- 35:55Speaker 1: Who's that? It's Victoria Justice, No Disney Victorious, Yes, no way,
- 36:09Speaker 1: great spotting Tara. I just I remember I was like,
- 36:12Speaker 1: I know this kid. I know this kid, and I
- 36:14Speaker 1: watched Victorias so then I looked it up. But she's like,
- 36:17Speaker 1: I think she's credited as like kid number three or
- 36:19Speaker 1: like whatever it was, like did have her name? Yeah,
- 36:22Speaker 1: she's credited on the episode. How cool. I love that,
- 36:26Speaker 1: you know. That's what's so interesting. So like Scott, like,
- 36:30Speaker 1: even though it's been twenty years, I mean, you're sort
- 36:32Speaker 1: of the same dude, right, You're sort of the same dude.
- 36:35Speaker 1: But the kids, these young young ones, the twenty years
- 36:39Speaker 1: is such like Victoria Justice then to now you're like,
- 36:42Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm not the same dude. No, I'm
- 36:47Speaker 1: saying like, but you don't look that drastically different. You're
- 36:50Speaker 1: not that different. Whereas the young child actors that are
- 36:54Speaker 1: five and twenty that it's so oh my god. Even
- 36:58Speaker 1: um Dan his little sister. You're like the guy from
- 37:02Speaker 1: Big Time Rush what was his name to Kendall and
- 37:06Speaker 1: now he's like this big puff star, you know, like
- 37:09Speaker 1: just this little guy on going like Melissa is basically Melissa,
- 37:14Speaker 1: you know. All right, So we go to then Digger
- 37:24Speaker 1: and Richard. So Digger comes in and has that conversation
- 37:28Speaker 1: with Richard. Talk to me Trojan Horse. It's a setup.
- 37:35Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Emily said it so perfectly. She was like,
- 37:40Speaker 1: you're forgetting that this guy fed him, raised him, like,
- 37:45Speaker 1: so he's going to have a lot of similarities to
- 37:49Speaker 1: his father. That's a red flag. Yep, I'm not buying.
- 37:56Speaker 1: I hate my daddy and I want to get even new. Yeah, no,
- 38:01Speaker 1: it's not. He's just trying to eliminate the competition. He's
- 38:04Speaker 1: in there to destroy Richard's business, Daniel, is there anything
- 38:09Speaker 1: else you might be feeling about Digger anything? I'm just curious.
- 38:15Speaker 1: Would you date him? No, don't talk lore Lie. For
- 38:24Speaker 1: the love of God, why are you serious? No, I
- 38:28Speaker 1: have no knowledge, but I'm just asking Tara if she
- 38:31Speaker 1: would date him. Me. No, I like Digger. You guys,
- 38:37Speaker 1: you would you guys like that at Berkeley or their
- 38:41Speaker 1: guys like that at Berkeley to the manner Born. Oh yeah,
- 38:46Speaker 1: of course sure I would. I would definitely consider Digger.
- 38:53Speaker 1: But he's not my type. Is that with a little
- 38:55Speaker 1: bit more edge? He's not, although he is like kind
- 38:59Speaker 1: of going out on his own. Yeah, Diggers cool, you guys,
- 39:03Speaker 1: he's cute. He's got enough edge for you. I couldn't
- 39:06Speaker 1: pass on him just because of the name Digger. But
- 39:09Speaker 1: now you just use a little sleeves to me like
- 39:11Speaker 1: he's setting up Richard Man he's setting him up, put
- 39:17Speaker 1: him on the road history, and he's going to turn
- 39:18Speaker 1: him a roast him. Show is like, I can see why. Yeah,
- 39:24Speaker 1: hopefully he changes my mind. But he doesn't seem like
- 39:27Speaker 1: good news to me. I don't trust him. I don't
- 39:31Speaker 1: I'm with Emily, I don't trust him. Yeah, I don't
- 39:34Speaker 1: trust him as far as I can throw no wish.
- 39:38Speaker 1: So we're back at the party and we see Madeline
- 39:40Speaker 1: and Louise. Were you happy to see them, Scott? Yes,
- 39:43Speaker 1: thank god comic relief. That was the right kind of
- 39:49Speaker 1: random because we knew who they were, we knew what
- 39:51Speaker 1: they were going to say, we knew the attitude. Thank god.
- 39:53Speaker 1: It was much needed comic relief. I hadn't laughed in
- 39:56Speaker 1: a while and I was missing stars Hollow, and then
- 39:59Speaker 1: they appeared. I was like, yeah, alright, well at least
- 40:01Speaker 1: we get some Chiltern. They had makeovers too. They looked different,
- 40:05Speaker 1: but they're different Chiltern with Tana putting on her the
- 40:11Speaker 1: uniform shrickim the to the two new girls. Yeah, the twins?
- 40:20Speaker 1: So what do the twins were fun? You need a nickname?
- 40:25Speaker 1: What I say? Rory logo logo row Glow. First of all,
- 40:32Speaker 1: then you can tell twins, because you know twins, This
- 40:34Speaker 1: is pretty authentic to twins. They they're certainly just so
- 40:37Speaker 1: into each other chatting way. Rory is like in the background,
- 40:40Speaker 1: and then I love that Paris is like we were
- 40:42Speaker 1: the good sister. My only issue with Madeline Louise is
- 40:47Speaker 1: like where is Mills? And then Tulane is New Orleans
- 40:52Speaker 1: in California. So then like the first week, well I
- 40:55Speaker 1: know that one of obviously isn't going to Mills, Like
- 40:57Speaker 1: coming up from Tulane, You're like, why would you come?
- 41:01Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like it's in the first Yeah,
- 41:04Speaker 1: it's not. It's not twenty minutes away. Wait, they rip
- 41:06Speaker 1: Rory out of Stars Hollow and you have a problem
- 41:10Speaker 1: with Madeline and we showing up from a minute drive.
- 41:12Speaker 1: Well yeah, but no, but that's the thing. It's it's
- 41:14Speaker 1: not far like Malone have to get on a plane,
- 41:17Speaker 1: correct you, Yales open you know I was sending out
- 41:23Speaker 1: to stress signals, you know, falling off my couch and
- 41:25Speaker 1: clomping my head. They sent they sent their girls in
- 41:29Speaker 1: so desperate. He's just like, if Kirk could just be
- 41:31Speaker 1: the pizza delivery guy, what show was I watching? I
- 41:37Speaker 1: wasn't watching something else four. It was Gilmore Girls, and
- 41:43Speaker 1: it was unfamiliar. It wasn't girls Gilmore Girls were moving
- 41:47Speaker 1: on life. It was it was like the A T
- 41:50Speaker 1: and T version of Gilmore Girls on the telephone. Right, Look,
- 41:55Speaker 1: that was a good Line's true, It's true. Okay. So
- 42:00Speaker 1: now we get this powerful scene between or Lie and Suki,
- 42:05Speaker 1: which I thought was really really good. M hmm. Melissa
- 42:11Speaker 1: was like amazing. She really went a different way, and she,
- 42:16Speaker 1: like I'm sure many pregnant women do, panicked. Mm hmmm.
- 42:29Speaker 1: You're gonna get so many letters. I can't wait. Bring
- 42:32Speaker 1: your comments, bring your comments. You know what about comments
- 42:36Speaker 1: for your comments and everybody's comments. Why can't they get
- 42:39Speaker 1: letters for their comments? Look, I don't want to be cocky,
- 42:42Speaker 1: but I feel like the people are going to agree
- 42:44Speaker 1: with me. Open up a diner at you, pop up,
- 42:57Speaker 1: looks gotta pop up el No Yale should open an
- 43:02Speaker 1: annex in stars Hollow. Okay, oh my god. Campus he
- 43:08Speaker 1: wants her to go to the stars Hollow Community College.
- 43:11Speaker 1: He can't, he can't take it. Just not just staying
- 43:16Speaker 1: next week, wait till next week. I'm waiting. This is
- 43:20Speaker 1: why the show is so great because because it makes
- 43:23Speaker 1: you wait, it pisces you off a little bit, and
- 43:25Speaker 1: then it delivers, you know what I mean. I think
- 43:27Speaker 1: they do it on purpose. I thought it was a
- 43:31Speaker 1: beautiful I think this episode. I think this episode was
- 43:34Speaker 1: the digger. This whole episode was a digger, right, a
- 43:40Speaker 1: trojan horse. Don't you think to make us think one thing,
- 43:43Speaker 1: but it's going to do another. No. I thought it
- 43:49Speaker 1: was a beautiful moment between Suki and lor Ly. Yes,
- 43:52Speaker 1: as you've stated, why why because I just get an
- 43:55Speaker 1: out of me, get it out of me, get an
- 43:57Speaker 1: out of me. Well, first of all, I thought it
- 43:58Speaker 1: was funny, but I also thought it was really hard
- 44:00Speaker 1: felt and your baby friendship, and you see the way
- 44:04Speaker 1: like lore La is such a she really is a
- 44:08Speaker 1: great mom, and she really is a great friend. She
- 44:11Speaker 1: is a great mom because she knew how to solve
- 44:13Speaker 1: this mess with the you know, salmon and the green
- 44:17Speaker 1: mac and cheese. She goes into gear. She's a great worker,
- 44:21Speaker 1: she knows how to sell problems, and she's such a
- 44:22Speaker 1: good friend because so she's all the things. So I thought,
- 44:26Speaker 1: you know, there's my girl. Was Obviously Suki was having
- 44:30Speaker 1: a moment and there was some crises. I mean, you
- 44:35Speaker 1: girls can comment on this better than I. I think
- 44:38Speaker 1: there are times when someone needs their friend and you
- 44:41Speaker 1: see what best friends these guys are, And like Lorela,
- 44:45Speaker 1: I wasn't afraid to be like, this isn't how it's done.
- 44:48Speaker 1: Like she's not like like sugarcoating it. She's not like,
- 44:51Speaker 1: oh it's okay, She's like, this is not what kids like.
- 44:53Speaker 1: You have to know if we're gonna get into this business,
- 44:55Speaker 1: and if you're going to have a kid, you should
- 44:57Speaker 1: know that the kid's not gonna want you carrot sticks.
- 45:02Speaker 1: I also think they're like every um, every person that's
- 45:08Speaker 1: becoming a mom, right, Like they always have the fear
- 45:14Speaker 1: that they're not going to be a good mom, Like
- 45:16Speaker 1: no one wants to be a bad mom, and so
- 45:19Speaker 1: there is that fear that I think is relatable. You know,
- 45:22Speaker 1: I don't even have kids yet, but eventually when that
- 45:25Speaker 1: time comes, I'm like, I just hope I'm a good mom.
- 45:28Speaker 1: And I think Suki is like calculating that in her head, like,
- 45:30Speaker 1: oh my god, I couldn't even get the kids menu right.
- 45:33Speaker 1: The one thing I can actually control is food. I
- 45:36Speaker 1: know how to make food, and I couldn't even make
- 45:38Speaker 1: pizza right. The thing that bothered me so much, with
- 45:43Speaker 1: the thoughts and the words uh, and the anger and
- 45:48Speaker 1: the fear and the rage that was coming out of Suki.
- 45:52Speaker 1: I had never seen it before. That character, that character,
- 45:57Speaker 1: that character, that character is a touched own for comedy,
- 46:00Speaker 1: for comfort, for you know, the sunny side of life,
- 46:05Speaker 1: for optimism, for all of this stuff. You've just never
- 46:08Speaker 1: seen her like this, and it was so odd. Oh see,
- 46:12Speaker 1: I loved it. That's so interesting. But I think, Scott,
- 46:15Speaker 1: I think we can see the thing that's happening for
- 46:18Speaker 1: you here. You are uncomfortable with this difference. Listen, doctor,
- 46:25Speaker 1: listen doctor. You know I'm not sending you a check.
- 46:27Speaker 1: I'm not on a couch here. Okay, will you take
- 46:29Speaker 1: it easy with the analysis. I think Scott, you're afraid
- 46:33Speaker 1: of Okay, we get it, okay in your life. But
- 46:38Speaker 1: the show, yes, I know, but that's all I'm referring
- 46:41Speaker 1: to too. It's like in the show you you love it,
- 46:45Speaker 1: and you cannot understand why they took this level of
- 46:47Speaker 1: risk because it was a conversation at the studio level.
- 46:51Speaker 1: It was a conversation in the writer's room, you know,
- 46:53Speaker 1: it was we've are we gonna grab how long? How
- 46:56Speaker 1: long are we gonna grab? We're gonna graduate her after
- 46:58Speaker 1: three years? And center to you, we're gonna do it
- 47:00Speaker 1: in five years. We're gonna do it in six years.
- 47:01Speaker 1: Why an't we going to do it? They did it
- 47:04Speaker 1: sooner rather than later because maybe they didn't have enough
- 47:07Speaker 1: confidence in the show was gonna last that long, so
- 47:08Speaker 1: they wanted to They thought getting her Yale was going
- 47:11Speaker 1: to really pump up the ratings or something like that,
- 47:13Speaker 1: you know, and get hit another demo. Who knows. But
- 47:16Speaker 1: that was a decision that was made, and I don't
- 47:17Speaker 1: think it was a good one. Yeah, I mean, that's
- 47:20Speaker 1: what I think that That's what I'm referring to, is
- 47:22Speaker 1: that you don't like seeing this direction where I do.
- 47:29Speaker 1: Why do the fans to tune in? Why do people
- 47:31Speaker 1: tune in? They want to They want to be in
- 47:33Speaker 1: that town. They want to be with Kirk, they want
- 47:35Speaker 1: to be with Lane, they want to be with Taylor,
- 47:37Speaker 1: they want to be with all the people that they
- 47:38Speaker 1: want to live in that town. The most important character
- 47:45Speaker 1: in that show is stars hollow itself. This is true,
- 47:49Speaker 1: This is true. And then you take you take people
- 47:52Speaker 1: out of that situation. And then you've got trouble, and
- 47:56Speaker 1: I'm experienced just reflecting that. No, no no, no, you could
- 47:58Speaker 1: be totally right. For me, everything is about Rory and Lorelie.
- 48:03Speaker 1: Everything that's I don't agree with that. I think they
- 48:07Speaker 1: I think that they need all of those and they
- 48:11Speaker 1: were we were all supporting characters because they were established
- 48:15Speaker 1: two leads. Those only two people that got on the poster,
- 48:18Speaker 1: they're the only two people that did talk shows. That
- 48:21Speaker 1: there were only two people that got paid. Everybody else
- 48:25Speaker 1: was incidental. But now you see how valuable they are.
- 48:30Speaker 1: Now you see how valuable every single character in that
- 48:33Speaker 1: show is. At least for me, it's a very stark
- 48:36Speaker 1: contrast being out of that universe with all of those
- 48:39Speaker 1: wonderful characters, so that their humor and their anxiety, uh
- 48:43Speaker 1: and their irony and their cervict wit can really bounce
- 48:47Speaker 1: off of everything because it provides all the fuel was
- 48:49Speaker 1: provided by those town characters and the wacki goings on.
- 48:52Speaker 1: Now we're in a foreign territory. It ain't it ain't
- 48:54Speaker 1: popping like it was. So I'm a little concerned about
- 48:56Speaker 1: it as as a fan of the show and having
- 49:02Speaker 1: fallen in love with stars Hollow and all of its
- 49:04Speaker 1: characters and how Rory and Laura I interact within that world,
- 49:10Speaker 1: so taking it out of that world is very risky.
- 49:12Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, for me, I think it's Rory and
- 49:14Speaker 1: Lorela and then for me Luke, So Luke is almost
- 49:20Speaker 1: as important to me as them. But I am not.
- 49:24Speaker 1: I'm cool with Gale. I love what's coming. I think
- 49:28Speaker 1: some of my favorite things are coming in season four
- 49:33Speaker 1: and five, so I'm I'll definitely keep watching. You know,
- 49:36Speaker 1: I'm interested to see. But it's just the three girls
- 49:43Speaker 1: who recount the rest of the show. Imagine, we're like, um,
- 49:50Speaker 1: Scott quit, you can just go. You can just put
- 49:53Speaker 1: up a little sign here and says gone fishing. Okay,
- 49:57Speaker 1: so just just like this microphone with this, We're like, buddy,
- 50:04Speaker 1: you're gonna have to keep watching, and I think you're
- 50:06Speaker 1: gonna I think you're gonna come around. I could be
- 50:09Speaker 1: wrong by thinking I probably will, but right now I'm
- 50:11Speaker 1: giving you my honest feedback in real time. I just
- 50:15Speaker 1: saw the episode and I'm not sugarcoating it well, and
- 50:19Speaker 1: I hope you don't mind me arguing with you, because
- 50:21Speaker 1: I love the argument. I wake up with hoping somebody
- 50:26Speaker 1: argues with me. I love playing Devil's Advocate. I love them.
- 50:29Speaker 1: I love them more than two. But I love them
- 50:32Speaker 1: in Stars. I mean, I'd like to go to that town.
- 50:35Speaker 1: I love that town. But I'm cool with Yale. Okay,
- 50:37Speaker 1: so what did you think we see naked Marty? So
- 50:39Speaker 1: what did that? Listen? If you've got a football team
- 50:42Speaker 1: and you've got a quarterback and a wide receiver that
- 50:45Speaker 1: are connecting all the time, but now the wide receivers
- 50:48Speaker 1: in another town and they're making calls, they're not Tom
- 50:53Speaker 1: Brady about Tom Brady. Brady, he's been in the Patriots.
- 50:57Speaker 1: I tried to develop that analogy. It didn't really and
- 51:00Speaker 1: I'm going to come on the counteract it. Tom Brady.
- 51:02Speaker 1: Everybody was comfortable with Tom Brady, but I'm not even
- 51:05Speaker 1: think Tom Brady fan. But I'm just gonna say Tom
- 51:07Speaker 1: Brady is on the Patriots, and everyone loves Tom Brady
- 51:10Speaker 1: on the Patriots. All of a sudden he's on the
- 51:13Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Oh but they still went to the
- 51:18Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But at least he stayed in in in
- 51:23Speaker 1: New England for how many years there? Seventeen years, eighteen years,
- 51:29Speaker 1: good point a long time. But did you not enjoy
- 51:33Speaker 1: that Tom Brady went to the Buccaneers, like you can
- 51:38Speaker 1: follow him there. Some people are now fans, don't. I'm
- 51:41Speaker 1: just it's still not the Patriots. But it's not a
- 51:45Speaker 1: bad you create. You created dynasty. You keep it going
- 51:49Speaker 1: for a couple of more years before you you know,
- 51:51Speaker 1: sometimes he needs right now. I don't know that we're
- 51:55Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay right now, Yale, I would I don't know,
- 51:58Speaker 1: A right, fair, fair, fair, a fair we could see,
- 52:02Speaker 1: we'll see. So can somebody make a note this season four,
- 52:05Speaker 1: episode three, somebody make a little note that in like
- 52:08Speaker 1: ten episodes, let's see how Scott is feeling and saying,
- 52:12Speaker 1: because we'll forget. I know you won't. It might be
- 52:18Speaker 1: so into digger. What do you think of Marty? Uh?
- 52:26Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. He's kind of he's alright,
- 52:29Speaker 1: I guess a little flat. Too long. It took her
- 52:32Speaker 1: way too long to hand over the road. It was
- 52:34Speaker 1: like it was like or she's up by the way.
- 52:37Speaker 1: She was like playing with it. So I think she
- 52:39Speaker 1: knew like it was coming in the scene, you know,
- 52:42Speaker 1: but like she kept playing with them, like can you
- 52:44Speaker 1: just hand in the rope and not cox him you
- 52:45Speaker 1: guys can't laugh when she can't wake him up, and
- 52:47Speaker 1: then she tickles him with the rope that was so good,
- 52:53Speaker 1: and then he's all, are you in my Japanese fiction class?
- 52:56Speaker 1: By the way, that sounds like a hard class. I
- 52:58Speaker 1: didn't expect Mary from I almost thought of them as
- 53:02Speaker 1: two separate characters, like I didn't expect Marty and school,
- 53:05Speaker 1: who arrives early just like Rory does to be then
- 53:09Speaker 1: a few hours later, completely blacked out and naked. Well,
- 53:13Speaker 1: remember she was also eyeing him at the at the
- 53:16Speaker 1: party whatever. She was going to go talk to him.
- 53:18Speaker 1: I was going to go talk to him, and she's
- 53:20Speaker 1: eyeing him and he was just kind of like leaning
- 53:22Speaker 1: against the wall. M hm. Yeah. I don't know how
- 53:25Speaker 1: he got so wasted, but was that it? That's freshman
- 53:31Speaker 1: year of college for you three beers, and you show
- 53:34Speaker 1: up like that. What he says like, I'm officially a
- 53:37Speaker 1: bigger idiot than my brother. Yea, yeah, this guy's so
- 53:40Speaker 1: rub And then we go to Scott. This will bring
- 53:44Speaker 1: you such comfort. We've got Lorala and Rory and Emily
- 53:48Speaker 1: and Richard altogether on a front. Finally, wait a minute,
- 53:51Speaker 1: let me refer to my notes here alright, Finally Friday
- 53:58Speaker 1: night dinner recrencient furniture finally feels like Gilmore Girls. There
- 54:03Speaker 1: it is, there, it is. I wrote it down. Finally
- 54:05Speaker 1: feels like Gilmore Girls. Yeah, and I thought the best line,
- 54:11Speaker 1: and I'll give you my best line. Richards says. He
- 54:14Speaker 1: talks about his little conspiracy revenge deal with Gigger as
- 54:21Speaker 1: downright Elizabethan nice line and Gilmore situation. Um so anyway, yeah,
- 54:30Speaker 1: so you're right. I was comforted. How many what are
- 54:35Speaker 1: we doing dorm dorm rooms couches? I think I think
- 54:39Speaker 1: we're doing, uh, Laura, how many Laura Ashley couches? We
- 54:45Speaker 1: do have any like weird hidden things? I did see
- 54:47Speaker 1: a prominent clown pillow talk amongst something I noticed. It
- 54:53Speaker 1: was just a random, like choice. But like when she's
- 54:56Speaker 1: talking to Laura Lie on the phone in the dorm
- 54:59Speaker 1: and she goes and grabs water bottle, which I thought
- 55:01Speaker 1: was the most pointless moment to grab a water bottle,
- 55:03Speaker 1: but then she sets it behind the plate of apples
- 55:07Speaker 1: so you don't see the label. And it was a though,
- 55:10Speaker 1: and it was we all noticed it was like strategically
- 55:15Speaker 1: that didn't do product placements. So she strategically placed it
- 55:18Speaker 1: behind the bowl of apples. No, we all noticed that
- 55:21Speaker 1: aquafina so much that that was the point of taking
- 55:24Speaker 1: a sip like one littlest yes there are My crack
- 55:31Speaker 1: team has actually uh going on vacation. Uh. They are
- 55:36Speaker 1: in Costa Rica right now, riding alligators or crocodiles or something.
- 55:41Speaker 1: So no notes for this one. If you guys have
- 55:44Speaker 1: any let's let's hear. Yeah, clown pillow very prominent, and
- 55:49Speaker 1: that is two back to back, very prominent clown pillows.
- 55:52Speaker 1: Season four is really here for the clown season of
- 55:57Speaker 1: the clown and I couldn't agree more. Wait, how many
- 56:02Speaker 1: dorm room Laura Ashley couches? All right, so let's let's
- 56:05Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, how many lour Ashley couches? Danielle? Are
- 56:08Speaker 1: you giving this five couches? Couches? Wow? That's generous, Uh, Tara,
- 56:14Speaker 1: I was going to say six, six couches to Amy, wow,
- 56:19Speaker 1: half eight and a half couches? Uh, how many couches
- 56:28Speaker 1: for you? I'm gonna give it to two couches. Two
- 56:35Speaker 1: couches for too many phone calls and we're out of stars,
- 56:37Speaker 1: hollow and we haven't established Yale and nobody wants to
- 56:40Speaker 1: hear the rant anymore. And that's just how I feel
- 56:42Speaker 1: about it. And I love you. What's next week? Uh?
- 56:49Speaker 1: We got chicken beef? You know My answer to that
- 56:54Speaker 1: is both? Why not see it? Four? Keep the cards
- 57:05Speaker 1: and letters coming. I wish we were more controversy. I
- 57:08Speaker 1: love everybody. I have no fun doing this by honest,
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