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I think that time, time after a movie is what's the word?
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It's kinder to the movie and kinder to it's it's good things.
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Because I don't really remember everything that I hated about
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the first one, but I think I've got the shining examples of
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things that I do not like. Hello and welcome to Potato Chip
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Pictures, the movie franchise review podcast finishing up with
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the Austin Powers franchise. My name is B Sammy Davis.
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Hello again, it's Justin here. And today we are just wrapping
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up our final thoughts on the franchise, discussing its place
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in history, our ideas about it and whatnot.
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I think the only numbers game that I can play with this
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particular one is giving our average ratings for the entire
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franchise, which I have looked at and I find them hilarious
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because both you and I, through our complicated scores and
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therefore the show as well, have an average review score of 4.3.
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Everything. Because math is weird.
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Math is a weird thing. 4.3. I got a 4.3, you got a 4.3.
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The show's average is a 4.3 like.
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There's only two people. We just need some guest
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ranchers. For real.
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We're gonna have to we're gonna have to peer pressure our one
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friend and. Tell him he's got to do it.
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So we can get some more unique scores, but really this is a
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story of a franchise where one movie kind of lifts up the rest,
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at least in my opinion, you know?
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Well, you'll have to tell me which one that is.
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The second one, the spy who shagged me, I rated it a six out
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of 10. You gave it a 5.5 out of 10.
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It was. It was, you know, the first
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movie, but with a budget and like a a real writer, it gave us
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like a genuine story that we could follow.
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It had some wonderful moments in it, a lot of quotables.
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And then the third movie was the one that essentially copied what
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they did last time. I think that's a pretty good
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feels like a mountain where the middle movie is better but I
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think by the 2nd movie they're going after what would be the
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word. Not some surprises, like there's
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comedy is surprise, but like the initial movie clip for the Tom
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Cruise version of Austin Powers was like, it was a good surprise
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and it was, it felt like an SNL skit and I was OK that it didn't
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really ever come back. It's like, OK, here's a skit
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that we're doing and we all, we wrap it all up in Austin Powers
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is the only thing that gets to walk into the rest of the movie.
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But it did come back, 'cause that was that was Goldmember.
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And at the very end of Goldmember, when they capture
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Goldmember, they they're at the movie premiere.
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Oh, I thought I just saw. Oh, I that was the third one.
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Yeah, that, that's, that's why it's the freshest on your mind,
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because it's the one you watched most recently, The Spy Who
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Shagged Me. That was the one where it
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started off with Doctor Evil returning to Earth.
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And I think we saw him on Earth because he showed up on a talk
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show. I can't remember who it was.
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Jerry Springer. It's the third one, yeah.
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Second one. Second one.
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Second one, yeah, I wonder why? What did I like about the second
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one? Well.
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Well, that one also had Heather Graham, and this is what I
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actually did want to talk about there.
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There's really only one thing in all of these movies.
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Well, I guess two things in all of these movies that you can
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rate. You can rank the Mike Myers
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characters and you can rank the leading ladies.
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And you had some very interesting ones.
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First one was the I can never remember her name.
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She's one of the most. Beautiful Vanessa.
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I don't I don't know if that's correct.
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I got this at Kensington. Yes, that's the character name.
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I was expecting you to save the actors.
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Like I remember it at times when I'm not trying to.
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And now it's like, yeah. Elizabeth Hurley.
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Yeah. Elizabeth Hurley.
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Yeah. So, you know, Elizabeth Hurley
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was gorgeous, but in the first one, she was really kind of just
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there to be like, oh, Austin, Oh, Austin.
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You don't belong in the 90s, but that's endearing.
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Exactly. I'm going to fall in love with
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you by the end of it. For some reason.
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That movie really wasn't great, but you know, she's gorgeous and
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she was in it. Second one was Heather Graham
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playing a much better character, way more suited to being paired
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up with Austin Powers. Someone who was an equal to
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Austin as it. Were yeah, I think that helps
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him. I mean, so I feel like Vanessa
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was more contrary or opposite, but Heather Graham is just
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another sexed up super spice. So like they go back in time and
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in his time it all makes sense. And it's like, OK, I I can kind
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of put that in my memory during the movie and then just enjoy
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the plot that exists. And it does in the second one.
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That's also another thing that I think makes Heather Graham stand
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out as, you know, the leading lady of that movie is the fact
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that her movie actually got a plot.
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And, you know, Beyoncé's movie also got a plot, but that that's
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because it was copying from the second movie.
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But I do want to speak briefly about Beyoncé, who I think you
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know, did her best, but the movie did nothing with her.
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Yeah, she kind of just goes along into the into the plot,
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right? Yeah.
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She's really just kind of there in a lot of the scenes, not
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really contributing or adding too much.
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And maybe I need to watch the movie again just to make sure
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that I am not making things up, but.
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I feel like she probably does something when they're trapped
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maybe? Maybe like I'm sitting here
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thinking no, I'm I'm when I. Think of them being crap.
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Yeah, I'm thinking of Heather Graham or Elizabeth Hurley from
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the first movie with the irritable fish.
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I don't know if they really got trapped with Beyoncé.
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I can't think of 1. So I, you know, I put her at the
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bottom of the list only because I, we just watched that movie
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and I can't remember anything that Beyoncé did in the movie
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except pick out her Afro in the sumo.
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Main thing it it's not as much of A plot as Vanessa in the
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first movie, but she gets Nathan Lane to do lip syncing.
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That's kind of my favorite part. Yeah, but that's a Nathan Lane
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part. Like, yes, Beyoncé.
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She's doing the words she's. The one with the voice.
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Yes, true. He's he's the. #4 leading lady,
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There you go. That scene is probably my second
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or third favorite scene in the entirety of the Goldmember
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movie. But that that entire movie
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really only had like 4 scenes that I probably loved and the
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rest of it I just kind of tolerated.
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But it was better than the very first movie, which really just
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felt like a series of skits that had been put together in some
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form of chronological order. I, I, I do not know how that
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movie had so much of A cultural impact.
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The first one or? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's kind of, it feels like one of those movies that comes along
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and because maybe movies were cheaper, you go out and enjoy a
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movie, throw out a quote, and it sounds entertaining even if you
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haven't watched it. And then people that have
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watched it are in the know. So even though it's kind of
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lame, the quote makes it have a different life.
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Yeah, and that's the thing, like there's there are whole fields
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of study for people who will look into moments in culture and
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why they happened. And I've never even looked into
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it. Like, why Austin Powers?
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Why then? I certainly loved it at the
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time. And I am never going to turn
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down watching the second movie, The Spy Who Shagged Me.
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That was killed me when you were like, oh, I'm I would definitely
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see any continuation of the franchise like.
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Oh yeah, here's the thing they give me Austin Powers for.
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I'm going to go see it. I don't know why.
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Like I it's because it's a franchise and we've watched the
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first three of them. I have to continue it.
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I'm sure they would bring back Will Ferrell just because that's
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OK That's fine. Oh man, if they could get them,
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that would be pretty and incredible to have him in
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another one of those movies. But he wasn't in the third one.
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No, no, he was not there, at least not as Mustafa.
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There was no Mustafa by that third movie, but in the timeline
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he had already died so. It's that that doesn't matter.
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What are we talking about? Yeah, for real.
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Number two died and he came back in the very next movie with a
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light scar on his cheek. Well, if you, I don't know, did
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you finish ranking the leading ladies?
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I I think I would if, if I had to put it in an order at three,
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it would be Beyoncé to Heather Elizabeth Hurley #1 Heather
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Graham. And #4 Nathan Lane, I'll agree
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with your list. I just loved it.
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Oh my gosh. I can't see it in my mind
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because I was not expecting it. And then like the acting of the
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lip syncing just included so much movement and like face so.
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Oh, yeah. It was a standout scene, and
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it's just a cameo. It's it's so crazy to think that
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that is really just like a throwaway cameo, but it's not.
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It's probably, you know, one of the moments of genius for that
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movie. All right, I want to hear your
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ranking of Mike Myers characters.
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There are four of them. OK, let's see.
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Let me think through. OK, so I know which four there.
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I'm trying to make sure that I have my list right from the
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movies. That's a tough bottom of the
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list is. Exactly, I've been struggling
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with the bottom as well. Top is definitely Doctor Evil,
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at least in the first movie. Was a bit of the part that he
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disappeared into. Oh yeah.
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There wasn't any Mike Myers in that.
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A little bit more in like the musical pieces in the second and
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third, which I just absolutely despise.
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So then Austin Powers himself would be my second.
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Same same. It does again feel less like
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Mike Myers as himself, so he does a good job.
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And then there's this huge cavern to get to 3 and. 4.
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The. 2nd movie makes you really dislike if you if you dislike
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the fat bastard persona and stuff like the the
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characterization that he tries to do with just making him like
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fat but still overtly sexual. It's just it's more off putting
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than the bland gold member like hey from the 60s seventies does
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skating in a rink and. He peeled skin eats.
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The peeled skin and has a Dutch accent which who knows if that's
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close. He's bland, which I don't know
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that I feel like that puts him above Fat Bastard because it's
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just actively uncomfortable to to have Fat Bastard if a period
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on screen. Winnie, that's all his stuff.
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That's what I would do. Yeah.
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Three and then four for Mr. Bastard being the bottom of the
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list. I'm going to flip my bottom of
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the list and I'm going to put Goldmember at the bottom and Fat
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Bastard at #3 and my only reason for that is that Fat Bastard has
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cultural relevance, like. Yeah.
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Of almost all of the lines that are quoted in this franchise,
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Get In My Belly is the one that I will hear at least once a
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year. You know, whether it is for the
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holidays or at a big meal of some other sort, someone is
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going to tell the food to get in their belly and they're going to
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do it the way Fat Bastard did. There is not a single line from
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Goldmember that anyone ever quotes he's he's a nothing
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character. Like.
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He's got a gross feature that he eats skin, but otherwise there's
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nothing to him. Why?
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Why did he have to exist? So.
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But yeah, both of them are by far some of my least favorite
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characters that have ever been put on film.
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You got to put future or past Austin Powers as well because of
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the ending of the second movie. Oh yeah, I forgot he's also a
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jerk. All right, well, he's at #3.
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Because it's easy. Gold member at 5:00.
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So there we go. Yeah, I I think that's, I think
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that's incredibly fair because just, well, I feel like I just
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like Mr. Bastard more than gold member, but you're directly
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correct that he doesn't really exist.
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Gold Member. Yeah, like it's almost like I
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would rather go with someone who makes me feel something as
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opposed to someone completely forgettable, you know?
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But I can also understand how someone would be so off putting
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that you would rather go with the person who makes you feel
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nothing. You.
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Know those things that you can't Unsee.
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Please wish I could we. Never.
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We never mentioned it in the last episode, so I am going to
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say it now. They did give us a better fat
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suit in the third movie than in the second movie with the very
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obvious scenes. Yeah.
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And. But you know, it was such a
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horrible character that I was happier for the scene to be done
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than to revel in the better. Stay in there any longer.
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Well, let's, let's talk a little bit about cultural relevance
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because this is one of those franchises where we were both
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alive for the entirety of the franchise, like its birth to its
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last movie and assuming that no new movie ever comes out.
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Like at this point we have, we were there for the whole thing
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and we've come back 20 years later to look at it.
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What would you like to say about its cultural impact?
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I think it's having now watched it since I didn't watch it at
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the time. I do recall hearing quips about
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it. I'm trying to think of when the
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first one came out again. It was like mid to late 90s.
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I'm trying to remember as well. Because the time period of the
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thing itself is like 1999, but I.
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Think it was 97 for the first one.
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I in fact I know it was 97 for the 1st, 199 for the second one
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and O2 for the third one. I probably missed most of the
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chances to go to the 1st 2:00, but the last one I don't say
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that I remember people explaining what was happening in
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the movie because I feel like no one would have been able to
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really tell me what's because the the skits are meant to be
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the funny parts like the plot. I forget which one has the
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lasers or which one has the Preparation H.
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That's how much it matters. Culturally.
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I think it'll always be tied to James Bond, which is nice that
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we did them close together. Absolutely.
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I think this would have been wild to do like two or three
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years later and be like, what is this franchise?
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Kind of remember some of the things happening but it was nice
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to know or at least imagine that.
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I saw more tie insurance to James Bond with the Japanese.
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Like Mr. Roboto in the third one was all a set up for verbato
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joke and then subtitles like it was random.
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Well, the big question that I have for you, because you
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mentioned that you didn't watch these when they came out, this
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podcast was your first viewing for all three of them.
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How does it live up? How does it live up in terms of
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always hearing these quotes and now finally sitting down to
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watch it? I think the earlier quotes kind
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of suffer from they were cooler outside of the context of the
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movie. I don't know that I could tell
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you which source any of them come from.
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If you were to say the quote now, I'd be like, well, maybe he
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says that in all three of them. Maybe.
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Maybe. Yeah, Baby, groovy, baby, all
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that stuff. I think that they're better
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outside of context because they're simple like it's get.
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In my belly does not work at Thanksgiving if someone says Oh
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yeah like when fat bastard tells many me that he wants to eat the
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baby. Like you cannot give context and
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still have the same level of enjoyment with some of these
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quotes. Yeah, I would say that would be
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my my estimation of it, 'cause yeah, even just remembering that
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scene and hearing it, I'd probably wince a little bit,
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whereas before I'd be like, yeah, that sounds like when I'm
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hungry and there's lots of fun food.
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I want him to get in my belly too, like, but then you start
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remembering, oh, he's a cannibal.
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That's that's horrible. See, I didn't quite make that
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connection because like, is he being serious?
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He wants to eat the human. I'm going to go with no because
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why would he be cannibalistic? Because he said he did it once
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and he wants to do it again. Like I, I think, I think the
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first time you have tasted human flesh, you have become a
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cannibal. I guess.
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So maybe I'm being too hard on him.
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I for me, I was too young to watch the first two in theaters,
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but I did get to watch them on VHS at the time.
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Probably not at my own house because my parents were pretty
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strict. But.
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My friends did own it and I would go over to their house and
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we would watch it, especially the first one, because like,
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what if we got to see Elizabeth Hurley's boobs?
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Like that'd be cool. And there's even a drawing of
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boobs, man. Like, so you know, I think I
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watched the first one more than it ever deserved to be watched.
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But coming back to it, well, let me, let me finish what I was
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going to say in 2002. I was in high school.
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I, I think I was either a junior or a senior.
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I, I had to have been a junior like going into my junior year
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if it was summer of 2002. And so I went, I went in
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theaters thinking like this is my chance to see Austin Powers
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on the big screen. I've watched the 1st 2 movies
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repeatedly. I'm going to watch this movie
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and I'm going to be part of culture.
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And I didn't like it and I'm worried that maybe I just missed
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something. But I never watched it again
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until this podcast. I had essentially completely
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forgotten Gold member. And yeah like I think I've
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watched the 1st 2 so many times but I haven't watched them ever
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since Gold member put a bad taste.
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In my mouth, yes, I'd seen that. I would probably understand.
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It seems gold member was just maybe if you hadn't had to add
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him as gold member you maybe could have made something.
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But I understand the want for surprise and something else
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someone else knew. Yeah, and that's The thing is
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like they had established that every movie was going to get one
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more character because one movie had done that.
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That's not enough to set a rule like he could have.
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He could have gone back to just two characters and just really
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put all of his energy into Doctor Evil and Austin Powers.
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Fat Bastard has been dealt with. There's no need to bring in a
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new character. But at the same time, this is
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his franchise. This is Mike Myers, baby.
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Like he wants to show off. Just add in some more flashbacks
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and use those kid actors that were the college age ones.
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I think I would dig that. Yeah, I really, you know, in
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fact, if we had to have an Austin Powers four, I want a
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total reboot. And I want those kids reprising
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their roles. I want to see what they look
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like as an as. Adults.
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They're in their 30s now. They're age appropriate to be
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the Austin Powers and Doctor Evil of that time, I think.
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Even more so because, like, Austin Powers and Doctor Evil
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would look older anyway. Well, the time has come to talk
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about it. Austin Powers four.
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I want to go briefly through some of the key dates.
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Austin Powers 3 came out in 2002.
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The first time it was discussed was in 2005.
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And Mike Myers was like, yeah, I'm, I'm thinking about doing a
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fourth movie 2 years later in 2007.
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People were like, all right, so was that cancelled?
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And Mike Myers was like, no dude, we're really doing it.
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Like it's going to happen. We just got to finish the
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writing. Like it's gonna happen. 2008
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Seth Green was like, yeah, if the if the script gets approved,
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I am fully on board. I would do it. 2010 the director
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Jay Roach was like hey, I know that Mike Myers is working on
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the 4th movie. Man.
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That continues through 2013. In 2015, Vern Troyer, the guy
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who played Mini me, was like, yeah, I would absolutely return
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as Mini me if I could. 2016, Jay Roach, the director, once again
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says, yes, it's being talked about.
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We're gonna do it. It's it's looking good. 2017,
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it's the 20th anniversary of the first movie.
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And now they're kind of backing off.
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They're like, yeah, I would love to do it, but we'll have to see
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if it happens and it no longer becomes a thing that we are
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actively working on. In 2018, Vern Troyer dies and a
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lot of people were like, all right, well, I guess either
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they're gonna have to recast mini me or they are just gonna
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be done with that character. And then back in 2020, baby Jay
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Roach is like, you know what? I would still do it.
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I would still do a fourth movie. So we're back in the heat and
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all the way back in December of 2024.
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That was almost a full year ago from this recording.
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Mike Myers said in an interview that he would do a fourth movie
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and he would like to do it sometime very soon.
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Man, Oh, I just kind of, there's a lot of things that work
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against it being a good idea. I feel like I don't know if I've
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seen many Movies Now that are quite so tied to, I don't know,
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existing in the satire type type worlds of like, oh this was the
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90s, oh this was the 70s to put him in 2026 or whenever.
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Like do we want another 70s era movie where he goes back or like
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what would they want to do with it and would they should they
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make it very topical to the current years?
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See, and I think based on their their previous track record of
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time travel, they would likely either go back to the 90s or the
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odds. But it is important to know
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that, at least at the time of this recording, Mike Myers is 62
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years old. Like.
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This would be the same as like late age Roger Moore jumping
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back in like to do Moore Bond in the 80s when he was in his 60s.
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Like I don't know. Like I'm not saying Austin
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Powers 4 should not happen. I'm just saying I don't know if
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it should have Mike Myers as Austin Powers anymore.
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Interesting. I guess you could go the route
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of like, you know, Austin Powers presents and have it be a
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completely different person you. Could go the route of Indiana
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Jones Four and introduce the Sun and be like we're we're totally
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going to follow the Sun for the franchise and then never make
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another. Make another one.
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Yeah. I feel like that is what would
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happen, just because, like, whether we like it or not, it's
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Mike Myers that is the draw. I don't really understand why,
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but if you remake it with the sun and the sun isn't Mike
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Myers, like what are you? What, what's the name on the
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thing that you're putting up there to bring people in that to
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be really, really important person?
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Yeah, that that becomes such a challenge.
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And frankly, maybe you could have Mike Myers only playing
32:57
Doctor Evil because, you know, a character like Doctor Evil you
33:01
could do well into your 60s. That's that would be a delight
33:04
to play. And then, and frankly, it might
33:09
be hilarious to say that Austin Powers is dead when you have the
33:14
actor who plays the character in the movie like.
33:18
I think. That might work really well the
33:21
to kill off Austin Powers but still have Mike Myers as Doctor
33:26
Evil in the movie. Like, oh man, now I'm sold on
33:31
the concept. Like sold in the room.
33:35
Let's go. But I don't think that would be
33:39
the way they would go. I think they would have an old
33:43
man Austin Powers trying to cope with the 20 twenties until he
33:49
gets to time travel back to the 2000s where people were still
33:54
groovy. Had bad teeth, yeah.
34:00
Except we didn't, because by 97 we had a revolutionary leaps
34:05
forward in dental technology. When you go back in time,
34:08
everything gets undone. You always get your bad teeth
34:12
back. That's how you know you traveled
34:14
back in time. It's all about the teeth now.
34:19
I do kind of think it's hilarious that this is a time
34:23
travel franchise. I didn't know.
34:28
Yeah, I didn't make the connection until the 3rd movie
34:31
and then I was like every one of these movies has dealt with time
34:34
travel in some capacity. I think it's an interesting
34:38
wrinkle, but it makes it feel like, oh, we should be putting
34:43
this in Group with Back to the Future.
34:46
Yes, like if you want to put together time travel movies,
34:52
this one get this whole franchise gets to be on the
34:56
list. You could.
34:58
Well, no, I'm going to say that being frozen and then waking up
35:03
20 years later counts as time travel.
35:05
That's the. Entire premise of Futurama.
35:09
He's out of time, Yeah. Yep, 100 percent, 1000%.
35:13
Yeah. So it's but it's so delightful
35:17
that all of them, like here is the James Bond spoof franchise
35:23
and they're all about time travel.
35:25
Like that's so great. Or at least they all deal with
35:30
time travel. They're not necessarily about
35:33
it. We're not talking about the
35:34
science or implications. We're just doing it for the fun
35:38
of it. To make to make the premise of
35:41
losing your mojo doable. Briefly, I do want to talk a
35:50
little bit about Vern Troyer, the actor who played Mini Me,
35:55
and that's mostly because I enjoyed him as Mini Me.
36:01
But when I became aware of him was when he did some, I think it
36:05
was VH1, he did one of their reality shows, The Surreal Life,
36:12
that's I just saw it on my screen and it was like all these
36:17
celebrities doing a version of real world where they'd have to
36:22
do these challenges and all that other stuff.
36:25
And he was such a delight on that show.
36:28
The the whole first season from 2005 really was a delightful bit
36:34
of television watching a bunch of kind of forgotten celebrities
36:40
hanging out. Like I think that season was it
36:43
the 2005 season? I'm trying to look up his name
36:46
to see when he was. Because I don't want to.
36:48
No idea. I've heard of the show.
36:51
I didn't know he was on it. Yeah, and I'm there.
36:54
It is. He was with Adrian or Adrian.
36:58
Adrian Curry. I can't.
37:01
Yes, Adrian Curry. She was a a model.
37:04
Christopher Knight from The Brady Bunch.
37:08
China the wrestler, and he was like, there was so much drama in
37:16
that season. It was the 4th season and almost
37:19
none of it had to do with him 'cause he would just roll around
37:22
on his little chair and just be happy, just be good.
37:26
I'm just chilling, having fun, yeah.
37:28
Just being me. And then after that, I learned
37:31
that he was really into Reddit and he would just pop in to
37:36
various threads and have a conversation.
37:40
And it was an like, it was open knowledge who he was on Reddit.
37:45
But at the same time, he didn't go on to Reddit to have people
37:52
pay attention to him. He went on to Reddit because he
37:54
just wanted to chat with people, just to place.
37:58
Yeah, it was just something he did.
37:59
So when 2018 came and he died, even though I was not a huge fan
38:06
of of his or or of the Austin Powers franchise, he had had
38:11
enough impact on my life at that point that I was like, oh man,
38:15
that's crazy. Like, I can't believe he's gone.
38:18
And I think that that's one of the many things that might
38:22
deflate people going forward with an Austin Powers for.
38:27
I can see it. I think if you, if they went
38:32
like the Tolkien route and talk to the people and family or
38:37
anything and you know, got them on board with a like Doctor
38:41
Evil's going to reminisce of mini me and all the moments that
38:45
they shared. And but he did something crazy
38:50
and like XYZ Doctor Evil is using mini me to further some
38:56
evil plot somehow. So.
39:00
So we're going to have what looks like the desiccated corpse
39:03
something. Like that's where it's like,
39:06
well, how do you put that in without being too bad?
39:14
Like, poorly done. Yeah, but then at the same time,
39:18
he had that type of humor that I don't know if he would be
39:23
offended by anything like he. So it's it's a tricky line to
39:30
walk because you don't want to offend audiences at this point.
39:33
Like, I hate to, I hate to upset anyone, but Vern doesn't care
39:39
anymore. Like he doesn't have the guts
39:42
for it. But I there are other people who
39:48
do care. And so if you make too light of
39:51
a thing, they would be offended. But then, like, from what I
39:56
understood about the guy, he had a very twisted sense of humor.
40:00
And so I don't know if he would be offended by the same things
40:03
other people would be offended by.
40:05
So yeah, it's a tricky 1. Yeah, I think.
40:09
I don't know much else about him, but your portrait of him
40:14
makes it sound like he's just enjoyed having worked on it and
40:19
then was being his average human experience here.
40:26
Yeah, just being a guy, Just being a good guy.
40:31
I do think that I didn't love in the movies that he was not very
40:38
verbal. Like I think he says one line
40:40
and they're all shocked that he can talk.
40:42
And it's like, well, I, I wasn't, I didn't love that
40:48
decision. Like why not let him tuck?
40:52
Because then. You got to pay him more.
40:55
I guess like you're just a miniature version of one of the
40:59
main characters, but. Yeah, well, I've said everything
41:05
I want to say. Do you?
41:06
Get anything? All right?
41:09
Well, I mean, I was, I said oh, in terms of oh.
41:12
I thought you said no. No.
41:14
Very definitive. No, absolutely not.
41:18
I am done. Yeah, because I mean in our
41:22
inside of the shows it we spoke about most things.
41:28
I'm trying to think of what else trying to think of any other
41:32
side characters that I I think the side characters are kind of
41:37
just there for some seasoning for some variety.
41:42
But I do think when they allowed things to be cameos and just
41:49
silly for the sake of this isn't going to, this isn't going to be
41:55
the rest of the movie. This is going to be a short
41:57
little spot. Yeah.
41:59
I think each of those shine pretty well.
42:01
The red London telephone booth on a California PCH 1.
42:08
Nathan Lane, obviously, and #2 Rob lobby #2.
42:15
Oh yeah. Gosh.
42:17
And then the past, the look in the past for for those actors.
42:22
So we've ranked Mike Myers characters.
42:26
We don't have to necessarily rank the side characters, but I
42:30
do think that they kept the movie from failing because, Oh
42:37
yeah, you don't need to remember Mustafa's name.
42:40
But if you do and you call it out and share kind of the inside
42:45
joke with someone else that's ever heard of it, you can you
42:51
can increase the the prestige of this movie in the same way that
42:56
out of context sentences or script lines did when it came
43:02
out, at least for me, I would say.
43:06
It is a lot of fun to be able to participate in quotes, like when
43:12
people are saying this stuff and it may have felt awkward if you
43:16
had never watched any of these movies and you're spouting out
43:20
any of the quotes because you just hear other people saying
43:23
them all the time. But this is one of those tricky
43:29
film franchises where I'm like, I don't know, you might be able
43:32
to live with just the quotes and not necessarily the context.
43:37
Yep, the quotes some of the silly James Bond like names of
43:42
all the evil villain women. I do think I when we started
43:48
Goldmember and Mystique came on the screen, I was like, is this?
43:55
And it turns out to just be like another cameo where she's there
43:58
for 30 seconds and then we're going to move on with the rest
44:02
of this silly movie. But yeah, yeah, it's quite
44:10
interesting to think about. I'm, I think the only other
44:14
thing that I can think of in terms of, you know, a piece of
44:19
culture where the memes are better than the culture book.
44:24
Is better than the movie. Yeah, the Bond movie Goldfinger
44:31
has so many memes that are good, you know?
44:36
No, Mr. Bond, I Expect You to die is always going to be a
44:40
great line, but I don't necessarily need to go back and
44:43
watch the movie where Bond rapes the the bad the bad guys hench
44:48
woman so that she will turn good and save the day.
44:53
Like, oh, the movie did not age well, but the memes are fine.
44:58
And that's probably the closest I can think of to the Austin
45:02
Powers experience for me. But then again, I would say The
45:08
Spy Who Shagged Me is worth watching the second movie in the
45:12
franchise, I think. I think that one's worth it.
45:14
It's it's good, it's fun. Well, I'm just like but they the
45:21
the toll like butt tracking device and like you just don't
45:27
like. Fat bastard.
45:29
No and I don't either. I I think he sucks.
45:33
But of the three, yes, the second one.
45:37
And, you know, then you get to completely skip the forgettable
45:42
character of Goldmember. Yeah.
45:46
And then, you know, I think the quotables will outlive these
45:51
movies. I think there will come a point
45:54
when similar to Shakespeare, like I don't want to say that
45:58
Mike Myers is William Shakespeare, but I do think
46:01
there will come a point where there will be some lines that we
46:05
quote without even knowing where it's from.
46:09
Oh yeah, the Dutch one from Michael King.
46:12
And I was about to say twins. Basil Twins is the one for me.
46:16
I had completely forgotten that that was from Goldmember.
46:21
And yet I've heard it, and I've said it, and there are lines
46:27
from Shakespeare that I've heard.
46:29
And I'm like, I know. That's Shakespeare.
46:31
But I. Cannot tell you which one it is.
46:34
The rest of the Shakespeare sonnet or play makes it better
46:40
instead of Austin Powers making it like, well, I don't love that
46:45
bastard. And as a more, you know, modern
46:49
comparison, I would say The Princess Bride is another one
46:52
that I hear people quoting all the time.
46:56
And yet I think the context works.
46:58
I think you can still watch it today and it still holds up.
47:02
It's still a good movie. Yeah, I'd agree.
47:06
Not a franchise, unfortunately. Yep.
47:08
So that's the best you're going to get out of me for a.
47:10
Resume to be like are there franchises in Shakespeare's like
47:15
I I can the king well. I'm, I'm glad you brought that
47:18
up because I've wondered about different renditions,
47:22
specifically Romeo and Juliet. There's like at least 13
47:27
different film versions of Romeo and Juliet.
47:30
None of them are related to the other ones, but all of them come
47:35
from Romeo and Juliet. And so that that becomes like an
47:41
interesting question, like where do you draw the line on a
47:44
franchise running man? There's going to be that new
47:48
running, man. It looks nothing like the
47:52
original. Schwarzenegger version.
47:54
Yeah, the Arnold Schwarzenegger running.
47:56
I don't know why I have ever watched that one but I have a
47:59
couple times it's. Great.
48:01
Well, it's not great. It's fun, but it's fun.
48:06
And this new one looks like it's a lot of fun.
48:09
Both of them are based on a story by Stephen King.
48:12
Neither of them are related to the other.
48:17
Yeah. So where do you draw the line on
48:19
a franchise? And maybe that's a question for
48:21
you, dear listener, But at least the next franchise will be easy
48:26
to follow. I guess it's time to announce
48:29
it, if you're OK with that. We are stepping into October,
48:35
which means we're going to do something spooky dooky, and it's
48:39
not going to be too spooky. We're going to do the Quiet
48:42
Place trilogy. I'm excited.
48:45
The first one I enjoyed. I was going to say I've seen the
48:49
1st and the 3rd but I've never seen the second one and I'm very
48:53
excited to return to the first one.
48:56
I saw it once, I had some complicated feelings about it
48:59
then, and now I want to see if I still have those feelings.
49:05
I mean, I think it I think it came out and was it did well.
49:09
I don't. Was that during COVID?
49:13
I cannot remember if it was during or right before, because
49:18
I think the second one might have been during I I completely
49:22
skipped the second one. And then the third one was a
49:26
prequel. So I was like, yeah, I'll come
49:28
back for that. I'll hear an origin story.
49:32
I guess we'll save most of our appraisals of it because I it's
49:36
about to be like, and I think going to the prequel is probably
49:41
a good choice because I already know what happened to this
49:45
family. But yeah, this is you're into
49:47
the future like. Yeah, but it is a thriller
49:52
franchise. There are some jump scares.
49:54
So if if you as an audience member get easily spooked, we
49:59
would understand you're deciding not to join us.
50:02
But I think it would be fun to try to have some kind of horror
50:07
franchise around the October months.
50:10
Sure. And looking forward a year, you
50:12
could go to the Cloverfield area.
50:15
Oh, that's got a trilogy now. Yeah, I vaguely remember the
50:19
first one, but it was I felt a lot like 28 Days Later where
50:23
it's camcorder feel, but it still felt like a a younger
50:30
project of not the best acting, but the monster is there and oh.
50:37
Yeah. That's what we're really there
50:38
for and. That's why we came.
50:41
And then they proceed to do virtually nothing with the
50:45
monster concept. It's the tension that you're
50:47
supposed to feel, man. Well, fortunately, we're not
50:50
doing that to you with the next franchise.
50:53
Quiet Place has monsters in all three of its movies.
50:57
Yeah, at least I hope so. I've never seen the second one.
51:02
Why just be disappointed? Yeah.
51:04
So how many of those have you seen?
51:07
Just the first one. Just the first one, OK.
51:09
I only knew that there was a second one.
51:11
I did not know anything about the third one.
51:14
Yeah, I I did see the third one, so I am one ahead of you, but
51:21
the second one is going to be new for both of us.
51:23
So no spoilers in the comments. All right, that's that's.
51:27
What we're did you know in the prequel?
51:29
Michael Caine is their granddad. Could be, who knows.
51:39
I would die if it is. Oh man.
51:41
Oh, that would be so funny. That'd be that'd be so funny if
51:44
the second one took a hard turn into comedy.
51:48
And that's why nobody ever talked about it because they
51:50
were like, did I watch the right movie?
51:53
Like, what happened? All right, well, I haven't even
51:58
picked out the music or looked into coming up with a cover for
52:04
the new franchise. So yeah, we'll have to finish
52:09
this one the same way we definitely finished all of them
52:13
with our patented Groovy Baby. It's a fitting send off.
52:20
It's like pushing the casket out to see thinking of James Bond.
52:28
And as we salute and the guns are raised, we all say, do I
52:33
make you horny, baby? And then the guns are fired.
52:40
Word. All right.
52:42
Thank you guys so much for listening.
52:44
We will be back next week with A Quiet Place.
52:48
Goodbye. See you.
53:03
That was fun. Yeah, it was, and we even filled
53:06
pretty much a whole hour. Oh yeah, I feel like sometimes
53:10
it feels difficult, but then he's just like, well, just don't
53:13
pay attention to the the ticker and just be like this one extra
53:17
thing. Guess what?
53:18
We can talk about it for 15 minutes.
53:20
Yep, Yep. I will admit around 30 minutes I
53:24
was like, uh oh, oh, I feel like we are done talking and I don't
53:28
know what we're going to do. No, then you were done talking.
53:32
I got a couple pieces of things I can add.
53:37
You said no. I said oh.
53:42
Yeah.