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97: Rocky Villains |#TheBaldBrothersPodcast · The Bald Brothers Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Today, Tony Today Today, as I live and breathe. All right,
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ball Brothers Podcast with Kevin Stage and
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  Speaker 1: Tony baker Man. We just made this podcast up because
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  Speaker 1: we were friends and we wanted to do a podcast together.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't care how any podcasts are in the world.
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  Speaker 1: Watch another one, Listen to another one. There's never enough
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  Speaker 1: content in the world. All right, today's episode, we're kicking
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  Speaker 1: it off. We are ranking. Are we ranking them?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? From top to bottom? The side with the side
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  Speaker 2: everyone spinoffs movies in this. In this we spinoffs. Spinoffs
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  Speaker 2: included top ten, top ten, top five.
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  Speaker 3: Wait is it?
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  Speaker 1: Is there nothing for to.
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  Speaker 3: If we're ranking all of them? We just rank them? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, ranking Rocky villains. Do you got a cute up?
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  Speaker 1: You got all the villains queued up?
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  Speaker 2: I know the villains, the villains, let's hear it, man,
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  Speaker 2: But I'm fumbling the names on the creed joints.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, we're talking about Oh you mean that's what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I mean where Rocky is the fighter?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, alright, so just Rockys no no, no.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: No, because he didn't fight. Oh you mean the most
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  Speaker 1: the last one that he fought. Yes, but not a
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  Speaker 1: Donna cree, although Johnathan Major's Vie was great.
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  Speaker 2: But just Rocky villain, just the rock the Rocky villain,
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  Speaker 2: Rocky villains in the Rocky movie.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get it all right, Well, first up, who we got.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just get the names. We're gonna name them all.
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  Speaker 1: Apollo Creed.
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  Speaker 2: Oh snap, he is the village, it becomes the friend
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  Speaker 2: for the first two is him.
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  Speaker 1: I don't only forgot because they become friends. I'm messed
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  Speaker 1: up already. Creed is the vielain of the first the
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  Speaker 1: Rocky and y'all forget Rocky lost in Rocky One. He
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  Speaker 1: did so good forgiving he lost. That's why Creed was
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  Speaker 1: pissed off.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Polo Creed, Pollo Creed, Twy Clubber Lane, I love
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  Speaker 2: Clupper Okay, Drago, Yeah, Tommy, I hated tell me gun.
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  Speaker 1: He turned his back on Rocky following the alley bare Neck.
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  Speaker 3: Over and uh, what's his name? And it's not Antonio
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  Speaker 3: And that's it.
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  Speaker 1: That's it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, wasn't there like seven movies?
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  Speaker 3: No Rocky by Bull was the last Rocky so.
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  Speaker 1: He fought creating wanting to clever Lane.
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  Speaker 3: You wonder if you want.
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  Speaker 1: Technically, let's startling at the bottom. So three is cluver
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  Speaker 1: Lane is the early villain. No, clever Lane is the villain. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because clever Lane was.
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  Speaker 2: Couver Lane was going for the jugging, wasn't. No, I
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  Speaker 2: ain't gonna be your friend after this. That ain't Apollo Cree.
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  Speaker 2: Now I ain't your friend. I'll be I'll show you
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  Speaker 2: wife a good time. I'll show Adrian what a real
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  Speaker 2: man looked like. Rocky ball boy, you tell Adrian to
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  Speaker 2: come on down to where I'm.
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  Speaker 3: At, Cree.
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  Speaker 1: Clever Lane is who Rocky becomes in Rocky four because
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  Speaker 1: he got to get out the mud and Rocky four
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  Speaker 1: in Russia.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, clever Lane was in the basement with no equipment.
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  Speaker 2: Rocky was all ferrari.
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  Speaker 3: He was rich.
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  Speaker 1: The money boy squandered the money man.
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  Speaker 3: Clever Lane was like man, Big James cleand Big James
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  Speaker 3: Cleveland dunk.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, man, Okay, shout out to mister d all right.
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  Speaker 1: So let's let's go bottom up.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, right, Tommy is at the bottom. Let's get it
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  Speaker 2: out there. We gotta keep talk hooking in you have
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  Speaker 2: an exhibition and then why you hate Tommy?
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  Speaker 1: So bad.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it was just a Rocky five is just
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  Speaker 2: bottom tier, easily the worst Rocket, easily the worst Rocky.
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  Speaker 3: And it was just like I just didn't like how
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  Speaker 3: he turned on Rocky.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't feel like it didn't feel like it was warranted.
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  Speaker 2: No, it wasn't like. I was like, there was no
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  Speaker 2: build up to it. There was nothing to make to
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  Speaker 2: make it believable. Why Tommy would turn on Rocket?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just like, wait, why yeah, right right
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  Speaker 1: here in the streets. It's like a street fighter background.
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  Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, touch me in out suit.
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  Speaker 2: That part was funny suit. He looked just like dark
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  Speaker 2: kids he did. You got Tommy at the very bottom,
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  Speaker 2: including hawkholder. No disrespect to tom in real life. He
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  Speaker 2: passed away recipes. But man, get him out.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't get him up out of here.
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  Speaker 1: With all that being said, get him the hell out
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  Speaker 1: of it.
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  Speaker 3: All right, who's next? Gotta began? Man, Yeah, that was silly.
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  Speaker 2: Well that was a circus and that that was going
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  Speaker 2: on here. And then then you don't realize how big
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  Speaker 2: Hulk Hogan is until you see it with a normal
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  Speaker 2: shorter Yeah, you know, semester, the loan was not tall.
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  Speaker 2: But when we see Hulk Hogan. Growing up watching Huk
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  Speaker 2: Hogan them other wrestlers was big yeah. And you see
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  Speaker 2: him fight Andre and the giant ho Hold. Look Minuscy.
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  Speaker 2: He is the here's the David in that man. But
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  Speaker 2: then when you see hog Hogan in the rocket ring,
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  Speaker 2: You're like, wait, Honk Hogan is that tall?
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  Speaker 1: Clawn had Mercy Hong Hoogan came with the body with
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  Speaker 1: the side from the jump Man. I was the kid.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, he's really comforting.
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  Speaker 3: Was look this, there's nothing in the middle in the
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  Speaker 3: upper back.
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  Speaker 1: When he was in court, he had his professional black due.
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  Speaker 1: So I can't go with the red and yellow accomedia
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  Speaker 1: for cors. Seriously, I gotta get the you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, the tablecloth black.
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  Speaker 3: All right, man, look out man, we know you do.
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  Speaker 2: Brother Johnna, you know saying I'll see you in your chambers.
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  Speaker 3: Your brother. I'm a woman, I know sister brother, sister brother.
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  Speaker 3: Listen the case, the case question brother.
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  Speaker 1: Oh all right, So Hogan's number he's second worst, So
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  Speaker 1: we gotta go Tarbor next.
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  Speaker 3: Tarbor. Yeah, Tarvor.
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  Speaker 1: He's just not really memorable as a film now. He's
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  Speaker 1: just a real boxer that I knew was a boxer.
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  Speaker 1: But story wise, I was just like cool man, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Cool they got a real boxer, and it was like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, but there was no real.
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  Speaker 3: There was really no real beef on.
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  Speaker 2: No, you know, like they said, you know, Rocket could
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  Speaker 2: statistically beat you, and it was just like it, I'll
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  Speaker 2: take him on. And then exhibition.
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  Speaker 3: That was exhibition.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't care. I didn't care at all.
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  Speaker 3: Was low.
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  Speaker 1: I was just watching Rocket because I watched Rocket, right.
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  Speaker 1: I never even didn't even have a phone. I was
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  Speaker 1: looking at my phone in the future. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: crazy man.
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  Speaker 3: And it was a nice redemption from Rocky five.
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  Speaker 1: It was better than Rocky I remember Rocky five was like,
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  Speaker 1: not only is it a bad movie, Rocky four is
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  Speaker 1: my personal favorite Rocky movie. To the drop off Mads
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  Speaker 1: five feel way worse because you have Drago the Cold War.
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  Speaker 1: We was really afraid of Russia at that time. It
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  Speaker 1: was always like, you know, the war, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. Cold War wasn't that far away.
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  Speaker 2: So and then like I don't know how many how
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  Speaker 2: many years was it in between four and five?
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  Speaker 3: Four or five in that movie.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Rocky five was nineteen ninety Rockies four was eighty seven.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So it's not long enough to be that bad, No.
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  Speaker 2: Because they had they had gaps like that in between,
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  Speaker 2: Like I think it was a couple of years between
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  Speaker 2: one and two.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a couple more years, maybe three between.
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  Speaker 1: Two and three, yep, yep, and then there was.
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  Speaker 2: A probably the biggest gap was up until that point
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  Speaker 2: was between three and four and then so I was
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  Speaker 2: still hype.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Tommy angle. I was just like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you probably. I remember being like, y'all, don't.
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  Speaker 3: I like the fact that it was a street fight.
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  Speaker 1: That was the only thing, but it was. But I
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  Speaker 1: didn't care.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't care, and I hated Tommy even when Tommy
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  Speaker 2: was on his side.
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  Speaker 1: Tommy was not likable as a character. I just didn't
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  Speaker 1: like Tommy just he had the mullet and stuff. He
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  Speaker 1: would have called you a nigga for show the show Man.
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  Speaker 1: I can see that from the show.
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  Speaker 2: They knock you out when you're gonna do something about it, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: who are you calling it? Because he was knocking cats
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  Speaker 2: out in real life. He was a little scanning man
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  Speaker 2: was he was wild.
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  Speaker 3: He was a wild boy.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't remember feeling bad for Rocky. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: you cannot fight this dude.
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  Speaker 1: He's young.
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  Speaker 2: I always feel bad for Rocky. Rocky boy is such
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  Speaker 2: a nice guy man.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, he has a as a character. He's a lovable loof.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he gets beat up. Man.
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  Speaker 1: That's why the Creed movies are Loki. Did he win
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  Speaker 1: an oscar for one of them?
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  Speaker 3: He got nominated for the first Creed.
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  Speaker 1: The punched up older Rocky. I would lost it all.
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  Speaker 1: Don't even want to do this anymore. Sylvester Saloon played
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  Speaker 1: that role, Oh for sure, perfectly.
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  Speaker 2: I remember being like, man, this dude when he lost it,
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  Speaker 2: it was like he never got it back.
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  Speaker 1: Good.
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  Speaker 2: It's really a tragic story with a good He was rich,
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  Speaker 2: get lost. What is gambling? Yeah, gambling, gambling and squandering
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  Speaker 2: and making bad deals.
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  Speaker 3: Trash. His brother in law was trash from the jump.
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  Speaker 1: He was. He was treating Adrian terrible. We just rewatched
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  Speaker 1: it with the boys. We had to stop because there's
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  Speaker 1: some non consensual stuff that wouldn't fly today. When rock
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  Speaker 1: he goes to Adrian's apartment, he puts his hand on
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  Speaker 1: the door blocks her.
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  Speaker 2: Just give me a kiss, man, give me a kiss.
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  Speaker 2: The boys were like, hey, we were taught it was
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  Speaker 2: cringe city. Rocky was saying that Rocky blocks her, and
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  Speaker 2: he's like, I just.
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  Speaker 1: Want to know you ain't got to go nowhere. Just
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  Speaker 1: give me a kill.
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  Speaker 3: Already together.
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  Speaker 1: No, this is the first date. And he goes a kisser.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, and I take you. And the kids were like,
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  Speaker 1: come on, man. But Isaiah looked at her. He's like, man,
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  Speaker 1: when was this maid? I was like, seventies, this is
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  Speaker 1: It's like.
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  Speaker 2: Rocky was just taking it. Then they was just like, no,
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  Speaker 2: you go give me this.
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  Speaker 1: At the door blocking pasited, I was like, now, listen, boys,
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  Speaker 1: this is this is what we talk about. Consider because
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  Speaker 1: he obviously she does not want to be here. You
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  Speaker 1: never want to block her in a crime. This is
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  Speaker 1: a crime.
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  Speaker 3: She has social anxiety.
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  Speaker 1: A time she did we didn't go back to it.
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  Speaker 3: Was crippling, shyness, cripple, terrible rocket.
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  Speaker 3: Now back to the bowl billings.
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  Speaker 2: We got Drago, clubber Lane Creed. I'm gonna go Drago next. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because because outside of him actually killing Apollo Creed and
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  Speaker 2: it was heartless.
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  Speaker 1: Really you could take it dog. The thing that messed
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  Speaker 1: me up about yeah, yeah, the thing about that scene
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  Speaker 1: that was an exhibition bout.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That wasn't even a schedule for twelve. It was supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be three three rounds and he in the black dude.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. We always use that meme, man, throw it down, man.
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  Speaker 2: But outside of the way Drago was set up is
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  Speaker 2: minimal personality.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, if he dies, he dies. It's just this
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  Speaker 3: is what we do.
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  Speaker 2: I like Drago better than the Creed movies because we
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  Speaker 2: get to see him as a human being.
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  Speaker 3: But it was just like feeling the steaks.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, that's what I was gonna say.
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  Speaker 1: And the intimidation factor because of like Drago was like
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  Speaker 1: towering or like cluver Lane, I mean cluver Lane and Creed,
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  Speaker 1: like obviously they're better boxers, but they were like not
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  Speaker 1: physically imposing to Rocky. So when he was fighting Creed,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, this is believable. When Drago was fighting him,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, he's and he had killed Creed, who
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  Speaker 1: was a better boxer than Rocky. But now he's a
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  Speaker 1: murderous exhibition or killer. But also I'm being honest, that's
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  Speaker 1: the first Rocky movie I saw. And then I went back.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, But I won't argue because
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  Speaker 1: I feel like clever Lane, clother.
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  Speaker 2: Lane is killing him in personality though, man, clever Lane,
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  Speaker 2: clever Lane was just he he busted out of the
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  Speaker 2: pages of the script. It was just and mister T
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  Speaker 2: was at his a pass. This is what made him
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  Speaker 2: a star.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, he first of all, he was so good like
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  Speaker 1: as an actor and even more than other a team.
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  Speaker 1: I love a team be a barrackas big fan, but
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  Speaker 1: as clever Lane. I was like, man, man, he's he's help.
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  Speaker 3: He had to get more of him. We was like, yo,
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  Speaker 3: I need more mister T.
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  Speaker 2: He was coming to the press conference. It wasn't waiting
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  Speaker 2: his turn. I believe no, man, shut up, fight me now.
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  Speaker 1: Man. He had the mister T haircut.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like, Yo, this dude is wild. Man.
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  Speaker 2: I love Drago THOUGHO is great, is a great villain,
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  Speaker 2: but he's.
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  Speaker 3: One note years a robot and he had all the stuff. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know he was.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I think what I love about it, and
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  Speaker 1: I agree personality wise, the steak seemed the highest with Drago.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, for sure, because we lost somebody.
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  Speaker 2: We lost some of the first time somebody died, yes,
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  Speaker 2: well not I mean I think Mickey died like the
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  Speaker 2: third one.
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  Speaker 3: But he wasn't murdered. Yeah, he was old.
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  Speaker 1: We knew it was coming right and name Drago had
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  Speaker 1: no remorse.
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  Speaker 3: For the murder. Yeah, if he dies, he dies, I said,
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  Speaker 3: you gotta get him man cold. What year was that
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  Speaker 3: ninety Well for a rock Rocky four eighty seven? Was
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  Speaker 3: it eighty six or eighty seven?
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  Speaker 4: Was eighty five?
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  Speaker 3: It was eighty five?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then the Rocky five is ninety ninety.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, so that was a big gap.
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  Speaker 4: Everything has three years except for Rocky four and five.
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  Speaker 3: Rocky four is older than I thought it was.
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  Speaker 1: Dang, my aunt had all these movies on. That's eighty
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  Speaker 1: five VHS. Dang, I was thinking it was eighty seven.
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  Speaker 1: But now that I think about it, I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 1: with you.
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  Speaker 4: Also, the tiger theme song was pretty great in that movie.
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  Speaker 3: That definitely helps Rocky. Rocky wait out of the Tigers
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  Speaker 3: and Rocky three. That's four. That's four.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that's what Rocky was the most. I was the
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  Speaker 1: most in That's my favorite Rocky. He was like, man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to Russia. I'm chopping trees, I'm running through
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  Speaker 1: the snow. I'm all alone. He didn't even have nobody
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  Speaker 1: in the camp with him. He was dolo in Russia, like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm about to take you. It's very much miracle on ice.
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  Speaker 1: We're going against the Soviets, like you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: They had all those elements. It was eighties and had
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  Speaker 1: the tall Russian wife. Oh yeah, Bridge Nielsen.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Man, I liked her Bridge Nielsen. She was she was
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: the woman of the moment. Did he marry her Rocky
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: I think that was ye, yeah, they were, they were together.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: He married for me.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: He was like, girl, listen, I'm gonna take it, get in,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: get it on what we're trying to do, all right,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: So I feel like you're gonna go clubb Lane.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Now club Lane. You got to go club clubbing Lang
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: is next clupper Lane got to go.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: He had number two spot. He had number two spot though,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: and of course and Creed, Pollo Creed is number one.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: What a great because he morphed into like I always say,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: the best villains have layers. Yeah, and he went from
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: villain to a great friend, to a mentor to a partner.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: It was just and he got the he is the
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: reason for the spin off.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: And I was rooting for a pollow Creed where.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: And the first is like, man, I like a Polo Creed.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: I don't want him to lose.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: So it was like the movie he's written for you
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: to like Rocky Tony. He's like, man, watch Y man,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: my mom to trade about hard.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: For me to root against a pollow Creed.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: He was so mad at Rocky when he just got close. Yeah,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: he was like fighting a kid. I got lost. Also
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: recipes called Weathers brothers. My Weathers was an amazing actor.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: One of my favorite things he was when he was
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: in Happy Gilmour with the hand that was so funny
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: type of gags. I was never too old for him.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: He was like he was always he was using that
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: hand and that made it so funny to me. He
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: was like, he got me, but I got his eye
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: though he was tapping the jar was so big hand
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: because it made his arm look super long in the sweater,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Like who gave him this hand?
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: I was crying at that.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: He was in that movie a lot too. He was
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: always in the back.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: He was the mentor.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, something was always happening into that hand throughout the movie.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: It got crushed when he tried to shake it and
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: he was gluing it back together and then it got
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: knocked off and then run over. He had the piece
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: back together. Come on, man, there is no tomorrow. That
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: line Apollo Creed, there is no tomorrow. You felt that
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: in your spirits.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: He was also really good.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Was it Predator?
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: He was in Yes, as Jackson, him and Arnold have
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I used it so all Top ten Jazz used that.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I said it to black Day, like who is the
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: white man? I'm Carl Weathers in the gym. Whoever sends
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: it to Carl Weathers, Yeah, because he's got the smile.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Also Thick stash Man.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Carl Wellers.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Came in with the eighties here.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Remind me and my dad man that, like.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: That's your father's that mustache full of coffee and regret.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Yep, he was a man. He was a man. That
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: was a man. He was a man.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Action Jackson man had vanity with him. She was fine
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: as him. He's flipping over taxi cabs.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: It was just great.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Ral, you know what, since we're here, let's just
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: do the Creed feelings separately, Okay, just not rockies box
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: so crew, we got what uh he had.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Drago's son was the second second Creed.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, so Drago number two, which basically he did the
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: same thing his dad had without the Russia thing. First
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: one he lost Danny Wheeler and he just got beat
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: up in the Yeah, Victor Son, who's the village? So
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: the third one is Jonathan Major's character Dominic I believe.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Is the first movie.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: He was a real box ar thing too, so we
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: put him last. He's out there already.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Drag his son had the same set up without the
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: flair the same setup as what like the son of
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Draga versus Son of Creed, but we didn't have the Russia.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Yes, they were underdogs for sure.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Now now you know when they were when they were
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: gearing up to fight Creed, you was sympathetic to them.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: It was gritty where they were training.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Then you know, the family shunned them, and you know,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: out they failed, and it was just like, oh, y'all,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: turn y'all back on him because he failed. So now
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden you're feeling sorry for Drago.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: You were like, wait a minute, hold.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: On, man, you killed Apollo three. But now I'm over
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: here like, man, man, you know they did it dirty man,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: just because you lost. And then and then of course
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Jonathan may just be first Damien he was man, Yeah,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: he's exciting. No, because it's just easy. It's easy. This
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: is super easy, all right.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Next up, we got the mount rushmore of comedians and
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: dramatic roles.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: I don't even know if Mount Rush rolls enough, but
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: we can we can try. Okay, So comedians and dramatic
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: roal meetings and dramatic roles.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: We need the best four, the top four comedians in dramatic,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: dramatic role, Robin Williams, good Will hunting, good Will hunt
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say the first Let's just
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: cut the ship that you can't get him off.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Let's cut the ship Ray not being funny Robin Williams
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: because low KEI taking up the whole Mount Rushmore by himself.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: But you can't because Eddy.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: M Robin Williams and Good Morning Vietnam.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: He was a little funnier than that. He was. He
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: was on the funny side. But Eddie Murphy as Jimmy Early.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: You won't take it from me, okay, because Eddie Murphy
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: hit them like he had to. He had to down
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the dol drums.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, umpty, yes, solid is it.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: It's full just dramatic.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: He's dramatic, the kind of silly and yes, charisma, but
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: but it gets to the like it gets to the
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: nitty gritty, but he's silly in the Jamie Fox and
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Ray is solidified. Okay, now that's yeah. He won for
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: that on there, Okay, I'll put Jamie there, no question.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Literally, I still can't believe Jamie Fox had Ray and
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Collateral in the same.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Game, nominated for both.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: That was Collateral for me, don't get talked about enough.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: How good of a movie.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: That is a good time.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Him and Tom Cruise were equally matched acting wise in there.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Tom Cruise is good in that what as an assassin
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: with no.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I don't buy them forwarding him in the end one thousand.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: That was like what Tom Cruise should have won. It
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: should have killed Jamie Fox and walked out the street bloody.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Jamie Fox should have never got the Jamie.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Gonna be took three burners to figure out what was
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: happening people.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: He throwing people out the windows. I was like, he
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: looked like almost like an anime villain. Anime they be
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: having the blood on the face. When he got shot
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: and he came out with the blood with the gray hair,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is a way to die. He
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: was too efficient and it took him a long time
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: to die of the train when he got she was
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: still riding. He was.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I know, I know they had to
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: do it, but we was like, nah.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: If that movie ended with Tom Cruise winning, I'd have
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: been like, this is probably would have realistic. They already
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: told you the story of the other time that happened in.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: His life, like Jada you were a mark.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Uh. My favorite part of that movie is when Tom
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Cruise told Jamie fox Man, you ain't never gonna open
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: that limbo bet limo business man ship.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: The hell no, you ain't saving for no permits.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Tom was right, we would be bullshit.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Jamie's like, he's got to get the permits. I got
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: the insurance, gotta get paid week. He was like, man,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: you ain't doing nothing. You're gonna be driving this taxi forever.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: If you wanted to do it, you would have did it.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Jamie was like, he did it already. You're right, man,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: you would have done it. I'm finnah start driving hard.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: People don't want to hear it.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: They don't want to hear But Jamie took it to
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: heart and he hoped he better had opened it up. Now,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: come on, Tony, get it together.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Boom, we're backing business, all right. So we got Jamie Ray,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: we got Robin Williams and Goodwill Hunting.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: I like Adam Sandling uncut gems a lot.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: I feel like he got snubbed by the Oscars.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, I wasn't thinking that, But that movie was a
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: good time.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: That's not his first Foray and Nomic Woods.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: But he was that movie right there that he was
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: booty cheeks clinched the whole stress that movie.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I watched it by myself in Sacramento, me into here
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: how to show that day, and I had my booty
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: cheeks clinched because it's high octane till the very.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: End, your nerves are on frazzleg. I was like with
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: some cold peas, man, oh this is it. You're right
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Aaron Monique.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: And precious Eddie Murphy not making the cut.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: This is hold on.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Let me just write, Eddie Murphy can't push Robin off
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: of Little Hunting.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: It's not your fault.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: No, man, get away from Robin Williams. Man, don't do
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: this to be man. It's not your fault. Matt damn
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: broke man. I just watched that. Sometimes when I want
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: to be sad, I'll.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Be like, it's not your father.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Don't do this to me. It just kept getting close.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Not your fault.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Robin Williams is the blueprint for me for a comedic
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: comedian doing dramatic roles.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: He's he's the He's the blueprint.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: What about Kevin Harten True Story in true Story or
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: in uh the one we're the other side the side side.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Kevin was great in both of those.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like we got to throw the honorable mentions
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: for them. You don't, but True Story is technically a
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: it's not a movie, but it's a dramatic role. But
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Kevin Hart and True Story was.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: One best movies to me. Our True Story in the
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Upside me too.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: As an actor. I was like, and I don't like
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I think to me other than those I like him
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: in Think Like a Man, he was.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: He was great.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: He was perfectly slotted and Think Like a Man. I
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: felt like some movies sway too much of his comedic
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: personality and they go into like zany and stuff unbelievable,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: and others like The Lift, had like none of his
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: comedic personality, but not dramatic enough to be like, oh,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: he's not playing that. He's just kind of this weird
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: in between space. But he was a scene still and
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Think Like a Man he was perfect. Same thing for
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: the old version. He's in one scene and it's just
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: up there right under Kelly Clarkson. First of all, I
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: don't understand what you say, so I'm gonna take it
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: this disrespect.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Washing your mouth. Help me with the same.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: You want a nigga, nigga here now go. He thought
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: he was running a smart tack. That hole exchange is
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: just brilliant.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: I love it. This you may right, this, you may,
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: I'll come back. Both y'all niggas getting clapped up.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Like I could see. I was like, he gonna be Yeah,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be a star. So Kevin Hard. We're gonna
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: give him an honorable mention. And who's the other one,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: said Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy, I don't think.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: Jim Carrey okaye on the Spotless Mind.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Oh Eternal Sunshine. I didn't like that movie as much
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: as everybody else, but I respect it.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Dramatic.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Oh snapo woop be Goldburg was.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Was at Goldberg and the color purple?
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Ah, man, let's look back at this right, Let's put
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: the list up, man.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Let's look back all.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Right, Adam Sanders out.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: I'll play, we'll take out him out and we'll be
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: in the up.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: He's gotta go in. She's deserved an oscar for that
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: she did. She you wouldn't even know she was a
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: comedian ever, She's not one hundred percent. I'm sorry, Adam.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Honorable mention.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Whoopy gotta be on there because that color purple performance
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: was just perfect.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: She was killing. Okay, so we got right now. We
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: got Robin Williams and Goodwill Hunting, we got Jamie Fox
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: and Ray, we got Whoopy in color purple. We got
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Monique and Precious Honorable mentioned a Second Mountain, Kevin Hart
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: second Story. Were doing Second Mountain Aaddie Murphy and dream
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Girls and Adam Sander and uncutching.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Now whooping Goes.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: No, did she win Oscar?
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: She won tosk for but it was.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: A gimme back that she was good and goes.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, but Oscar come on.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: And Jim Carrey he low key. This is not a
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: dramatic role. But Jim Carrey and Truman Show is a
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: masterclass in his ability of acting. It's not as like
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: when he was in the Mask. I was like, all right,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: and I love Jim Carrey, but that Zany was like
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: it was eyes eyes, I was it was too much
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: dumb and dumber. Is like my favorite Jim Carrey movie,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Cable Guy is also.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: You like Cable Guys more than most people.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: No, I love it. You like dumb number.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what dumb? Dumb for me? Like silly man.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: For me, you don't like you need to get up,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: give up, and you always you like serious comment, you
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: need silly.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: I'll say this. I'll say this I am guilty of.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Like, all right, if I feel like you trying to
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: make me laugh, I'm gonna be like, you're trying too hard.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: And for me it felt like Jim Carrey was always
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: trying too hard. So initially a Ventur I was like, man,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: you're doing too much. But then when I went back
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: to Age Ventura later, I was like, yo, this is funny,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: but the mask.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: I'll still to this day the mask.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: But I recently watched Dumb and Dumber like a month ago,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: holds up, and I was just like, all right, this
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: is this is cool. But because I did a poll,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: what y'all like better dumb and dumber or there's something
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: about Mary and surprisingly dumb and dumber one should be
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: a surprise. I was like, man, there's something about Mary
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: is way funnier to me.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: No, I love there's something about Mary.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Man, you're forgetting how.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Many funny things happen in Dumb and dumber tonge I
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: just I just watched it, then you forgot.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Since then that.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Just our pets head off.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: They take the bird's head back. You can't tep with
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: doubles down.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: You get hee.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Jim Carry had two gloves on. He said, Man, my
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: hans are cold. Take this extra pair. He's like, you
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: have two pair sent it's a winter tar like.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Come on, man, those is minimal last big gumps hung
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Come on man seeing beans.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: He was masturbating Frank.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: There's something there's something about Mary waste no time with
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: the jokes.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: This is in the beginning. I did you give it means? Mother, Frank?
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: What's going on? Man?
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Everybody just coming the fireman in the window. Take a
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: look at what this numb nuts did.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Holy ship.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: It was just like he was masterbating he in the
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: community yelling?
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Was he yelling this?
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Keth David was so funny with the nut in her hand.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, And then a plot twists at the end. That's
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: a comedy. That's a comedy with a great ending.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: It is. I love that movie, don't get me wrong.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: But Dumb and Dumber is funny. Man, it's funny. But
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: it was all right now, man, I won't do this podcast.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Take it back.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: I wasn't laughing that hard man. But there's something about
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Mary is one of the best comedies, fits perfect and
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: was great. That is his thing. Loki, have you watch
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: you ain't watched? Uh? Apple Plus TV show that he's
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: directing executive producing where they have their They got one
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: personality on the outside and another personality at work.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Patreon, please help me. Ben Steeler ben Stiller directed at
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Executi Producers. But he's not in it. Adam, something's in.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: It, Adam Driver.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: No severance, Oh severance, that's Ben Stiller. Ben Stiller produced
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: and direct. You need to watch it. Tone, Okay for
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: a minute, you ain't been listening.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: It's been still it's Ben Stiller is just behind just
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: behind the scenes.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: But it's even behind the scenes type of guy for long.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, all right, so we feel strongly about that.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I don't. I can't see Kevin Hart, Eddie Murphy or
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Jim replacing moniques that that performance and precious Oscar I mean.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Yips sparkle, No, I see y'all. No young keep saying it,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: but no, nah man.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: You're good. Uh. I did like Jim Car turn on
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: his mind, but it's not. It's not the top four.
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  Speaker 3: Shoot.
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  Speaker 1: Three of the four of these people won Oscars.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh I don't care what anybody says. That
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: ghost Oscar was for the color purple. Yeah, that ghost
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Oscar was for the color purple. Nothing about that role
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: in Ghosts screams. Oscar, I get you, I'm with you.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: She was, she was a good time. She stole scenes.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: But it wasn't like Oscar.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: That that you're in danger girl.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she was good, she was really good. Oscar.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, color purple was a snub, which is
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: my I told you, that's my issue with the Oscar.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: They was like, yo, we fumbled with the color purple.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Here's yours.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah nah, all right, y'all, that's enough for today. We'll
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: see you next week. This is a podcast disguised for
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: me and Tony to talk about movies. We'll fit other
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: stuff in, but we always gonna figure out a way
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: to talk about some movies. All right, We'll see you
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: next time.