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- 0:03Speaker 1: The internet has changed the way we live. It has
- 0:08Speaker 1: changed the way we work, the way we shop, and
- 0:11Speaker 1: even the way we date. It has also changed the
- 0:15Speaker 1: way we kill. I'm Donald McIntyre, and I'm on a
- 0:20Speaker 1: quest to explore the dark side of our online world,
- 0:24Speaker 1: where one click can lead to murder.
- 0:27Speaker 2: The internet and social media has been a godsend to
- 0:30Speaker 2: online predators.
- 0:31Speaker 3: Why?
- 0:31Speaker 2: Because of the speed in which they can, one, create
- 0:34Speaker 2: fake profiles, but two, access victims.
- 0:37Speaker 1: I'll be investigating some of the most disturbing crimes in
- 0:40Speaker 1: recent history, where the internet and social media have been
- 0:44Speaker 1: used to trick, torture and kill innocent victims, lured into
- 0:48Speaker 1: a virtual world where nothing is as it seems.
- 0:52Speaker 4: Clearly, she did not realise the person she was talking
- 0:55Speaker 4: to online was the man who was going to kill her.
- 0:59Speaker 1: In this programme, when Vicky Roberts married her husband Michael,
- 1:04Speaker 1: she thought he was the man of her dreams. But
- 1:07Speaker 1: beneath the veneer of domestic bliss, Michael Roberts was a
- 1:10Speaker 1: serial adulterer. And when Vicky found out and confronted him,
- 1:15Speaker 1: he strangled her to death. Was Michael Roberts a sex
- 1:21Speaker 1: addict who couldn't care less about the emotional distress he
- 1:25Speaker 1: caused the woman who loved him? And was he always
- 1:27Speaker 1: a killer in waiting, destined to descend into murderous violence
- 1:32Speaker 1: the moment his wife confronted him?
- 1:54Speaker 5: Almost half of British men admit to straying from their
- 1:57Speaker 5: partners at least once. 32% of women admit the same.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Thanks to social media, it's never been easier to find
- 2:27Speaker 1: a partner to have a secret affair with. Fortunately, very
- 2:31Speaker 1: few end in murder. But that's exactly what happened here
- 2:34Speaker 1: in Cheshire in 2009. In November that year, when 25-year-old
- 2:48Speaker 1: Vicky Roberts checked her husband Michael's text and Facebook messages...
- 2:53Speaker 1: She quickly realized he was being unfaithful and not for
- 2:56Speaker 1: the first time. When she confronted him with the evidence,
- 3:03Speaker 1: he flew into a rage and strangled her to death.
- 3:20Speaker 1: I've come to Runcorn where Vicky lived and where she died.
- 3:24Speaker 1: And I'm here to discover the role social media played
- 3:27Speaker 1: in destroying her marriage and to find out how it led.
- 3:31Speaker 6: To her murder.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Vicky Roberts was a carefree, church-going girl with lots of
- 3:37Speaker 1: friends who remember her as having a vibrant and caring personality.
- 3:43Speaker 1: She grew up in Cheshire with her brother and two sisters.
- 3:49Speaker 1: Vicky worked at this IKEA store and it was here
- 3:51Speaker 1: in 2006 where she first met Michael Roberts. The son
- 3:55Speaker 1: of a chemical engineer, Roberts had left school at 16.
- 3:59Speaker 1: Described as lanky and slightly awkward, he was also said
- 4:02Speaker 1: he could be very self-assured, funny and confident, particularly around women.
- 4:06Speaker 1: He was also said to be extremely flirtatious.
- 4:13Speaker 7: It was clear from his Facebook profile that he enjoyed
- 4:16Speaker 7: the company of women. There was scores of photographs on
- 4:19Speaker 7: there with him smiling, wearing sunglasses, looking like quite a cocky,
- 4:26Speaker 7: confident young man.
- 4:29Speaker 3: He was a bit of a ladies' man, or he
- 4:31Speaker 3: at least thought he was. He sounded like he had
- 4:34Speaker 3: quite a few admirers where he worked, for a start.
- 4:37Speaker 8: If I'm honest, when I first met Mike, I wasn't
- 4:39Speaker 8: too sure about him. He seemed very loud and a
- 4:41Speaker 8: bit full of himself. But I got to know him
- 4:45Speaker 8: and I thought he was a pretty decent guy. He
- 4:47Speaker 8: was nice, he was funny. But he was very flirtatious
- 4:51Speaker 8: with all the women he came across.
- 4:54Speaker 1: To the people who met him, Robert seemed like an
- 4:57Speaker 1: average outgoing guy. But was there more to his personality
- 5:01Speaker 1: than met the eye?
- 5:03Speaker 2: Robert, in my opinion, was very insecure. He relied on company.
- 5:08Speaker 2: He couldn't be independent. He had to have somebody with
- 5:11Speaker 2: him the whole time, somebody on his arm.
- 5:15Speaker 1: Vicky quickly fell for Roberts and they soon embarked on
- 5:18Speaker 1: a passionate relationship. It seems that Roberts had an insatiable
- 5:22Speaker 1: sexual appetite and clearly felt the need to brag about
- 5:25Speaker 1: the physical side of his and Vicky's relationship. Apparently, he
- 5:30Speaker 1: told people they were having sex up to five times
- 5:33Speaker 1: a day.
- 5:35Speaker 2: Anybody that has such an insatiable appetite for sex, five, six,
- 5:42Speaker 2: perhaps even seven, eight times a day, becomes a bit
- 5:45Speaker 2: of a sign, an indicator that says, what's this person
- 5:49Speaker 2: up to? What does this person want from the relationship?
- 5:53Speaker 2: Roberts treated sex a bit like a drug. He couldn't
- 5:57Speaker 2: do without it.
- 5:57Speaker 4: He wasn't driven by love or care. He was just
- 6:00Speaker 4: driven by sex and domination and somebody who really just
- 6:04Speaker 4: wanted to have his own way with somebody.
- 6:07Speaker 9: With Roberts, the root of his sexual need is the
- 6:10Speaker 9: same as the root of his psychological need. It's about
- 6:12Speaker 9: serving himself. He was making love to his ego. He's
- 6:17Speaker 9: got all the traits of a narcissist.
- 6:20Speaker 1: Sex was clearly important to Robert's self-image, as were people's
- 6:24Speaker 1: expectations of his relationship with Vicky. But very early on,
- 6:28Speaker 1: it seems that something may have happened that severely impacted
- 6:31Speaker 1: their sex life. Roberts claimed that in the early stages
- 6:35Speaker 1: of their relationship, Vicky fell pregnant and had a termination,
- 6:38Speaker 1: resulting in a drop in their sexual activity. For a
- 6:41Speaker 1: man with a voracious sexual appetite like Roberts, this was
- 6:44Speaker 1: always bound to be an issue. I imagine for Vicky,
- 6:49Speaker 1: the decision to terminate a pregnancy would have been a
- 6:52Speaker 1: terribly upsetting one to have to make. But it seems
- 6:55Speaker 1: all Roberts cared about was how it affected their sex life.
- 7:01Speaker 1: And later he claimed that he tried to rekindle things
- 7:03Speaker 1: with Vicky in the bedroom by getting her to agree
- 7:06Speaker 1: to engage in kinky, rough sex.
- 7:09Speaker 4: It would have become very much an S & M activity,
- 7:12Speaker 4: a sadomasochistic activity, which may or may not have actually
- 7:18Speaker 4: entertained Vicky to some degree, but certainly would have stimulated
- 7:23Speaker 4: Roberts' appetite for more.
- 7:30Speaker 1: Not long after Vicky and Roberts got together, he left
- 7:33Speaker 1: his job at IKEA to take up a position at
- 7:36Speaker 1: a shop called Phones For You. His new colleagues regarded
- 7:40Speaker 1: him as a bit of a flash Harry. Soon after
- 7:43Speaker 1: he started his new job, he went on a training
- 7:46Speaker 1: day and there he met a woman called Kerry. Roberts
- 7:49Speaker 1: was instantly attracted to her.
- 7:52Speaker 7: Roberts engaged in an affair with a woman he met
- 7:55Speaker 7: at Phones For You who had been enlisted to train him.
- 8:00Speaker 7: this woman called Kerry described how they had an intense
- 8:04Speaker 7: sexual relationship. She was a single mother, but he often
- 8:08Speaker 7: visited her at home, and they enjoyed gymnastic sex.
- 8:13Speaker 9: I think Roberts would be attracted to Kerry because she
- 8:18Speaker 9: was sexually confident, because, again, if he can get her, again,
- 8:21Speaker 9: it's feeding his ego. And he likes that. He's got
- 8:25Speaker 9: a very caring, loving woman at home... And he's going
- 8:28Speaker 9: out for this kind of sexual woman who is almost
- 8:33Speaker 9: like himself in many ways. And he would have enjoyed
- 8:36Speaker 9: that conquest. He would have enjoyed the fact that he
- 8:38Speaker 9: could get somebody like that.
- 8:46Speaker 1: Just a few months after, one of her friends spotted
- 8:49Speaker 1: a love bite on Kerry's neck. Kerry confided it was
- 8:53Speaker 1: from Michael Roberts. She told her friend that sex was
- 8:56Speaker 1: amazing and that they'd tried out things she'd never tried before.
- 9:00Speaker 1: She said Roberts liked rough sex. Ominously, she confided in
- 9:04Speaker 1: her friend that he also tried to throck her. It
- 9:09Speaker 1: was clear early on that Roberts had a predilection for
- 9:12Speaker 1: unconventional sex. should the throttling incident with Kerry have rung
- 9:16Speaker 1: any early alarm bells.
- 9:18Speaker 9: In domestic abuse risk assessments, there's a risk factor which
- 9:22Speaker 9: is strangulation or even placing the hands around the neck.
- 9:25Speaker 9: And the reason why that's a risk factor is that
- 9:28Speaker 9: if you're doing that, it means that the escalation is there,
- 9:32Speaker 9: that you can go from placing your hands around to squeezing.
- 9:35Speaker 9: And that's very, very indicative of an underlying risk.
- 9:40Speaker 1: Despite Robert taking every opportunity to indulge in his extramarital affair,
- 9:45Speaker 1: he and Vicky set a date of June 2009 to
- 9:48Speaker 1: get married. But it wasn't long before Vicky would discover
- 9:52Speaker 1: that the man of her dreams wasn't everything he seemed.
- 10:02Speaker 1: Vicky Roberts was murdered by her husband, Michael, in November 2009.
- 10:08Speaker 1: From the moment they met, they enjoyed a whirlwind romance.
- 10:11Speaker 1: And before too long, they were engaged to be married.
- 10:19Speaker 1: But in the months leading up to their wedding, Vicky
- 10:22Speaker 1: became more and more suspicious of her husband-to-be. Unable to
- 10:33Speaker 1: control her doubts, she checked his messages and was distraught
- 10:37Speaker 1: to find proof that he'd been cheating on her. Although
- 10:42Speaker 1: she was devastated, Vicky still wanted to give their relationship
- 10:46Speaker 1: another chance. So before they were due to be married,
- 10:49Speaker 1: she wrote Roberts a letter pleading with him to change
- 10:53Speaker 1: his ways.
- 10:55Speaker 10: Roberts was a man who could talk his way out
- 10:57Speaker 10: of any situation and tell people what they wanted to hear. Vicky,
- 11:02Speaker 10: I think, was so desperate that she resorted to writing
- 11:05Speaker 10: to Roberts because she knew that a face-to-face conversation would
- 11:09Speaker 10: just result in him talking his way out of the
- 11:11Speaker 10: situation and telling her what she wanted to hear. She
- 11:14Speaker 10: needed him to take her seriously The only way she
- 11:18Speaker 10: could do that was to write it down for him
- 11:20Speaker 10: to consider it.
- 11:21Speaker 1: Vicky wrote in the letter how much she was looking
- 11:23Speaker 1: forward to their wedding day. Clearly, she wanted to spend
- 11:27Speaker 1: the rest of her life married to Roberts. But this
- 11:31Speaker 1: wasn't a story that was destined to end happily ever after.
- 11:37Speaker 7: The letter talked about how she was desperate to forgive
- 11:40Speaker 7: him and desperate for the marriage to work. It talks
- 11:43Speaker 7: about how much she loved him. but that she wasn't
- 11:46Speaker 7: willing to share him with another woman. She was obviously
- 11:51Speaker 7: head over heels for him. It's clear from the letter
- 11:53Speaker 7: that she was desperately in love with him and desperately
- 11:56Speaker 7: wanted them to be together.
- 12:06Speaker 1: After Vicky found out about the affair, Roberts promised his
- 12:09Speaker 1: bride-to-be that he'd change his ways, but he lied. He
- 12:13Speaker 1: didn't end his affair with his mistress, Kerry, and he
- 12:16Speaker 1: didn't lose his interest in other women either.
- 12:19Speaker 8: There were rumours that Mike was seeing other women, but
- 12:23Speaker 8: I didn't find that out until much later on. But
- 12:25Speaker 8: the phone to you was, we were all like a family.
- 12:29Speaker 8: We did go out for drinks and meals together and events.
- 12:33Speaker 8: Mike was very flirtatious with a lot of women.
- 12:37Speaker 1: Despite Vicky's misgivings, she and Roberts were married in June 2009.
- 12:44Speaker 1: Their wedding photos show them as the very picture of happiness.
- 12:49Speaker 1: But the smiles in the pictures masked a more sinister reality.
- 12:53Speaker 1: And within weeks of their wedding day, Roberts was back
- 12:56Speaker 1: on the prowl. Not long after he got married, Roberts
- 13:01Speaker 1: tired of his affair with Kerry. He cooled off the
- 13:03Speaker 1: relationship and set aside on his next conquest, Karen. Karen
- 13:09Speaker 1: was a fellow Phones For You employee who Roberts had
- 13:12Speaker 1: met when he visited a branch of the shop in Branger.
- 13:15Speaker 7: Karen had a fiancé at the time and confided in
- 13:19Speaker 7: Roberts that she was unhappy in her relationship. He reciprocated
- 13:24Speaker 7: by saying he was unhappy in his marriage and told
- 13:26Speaker 7: her that he wished he'd never actually got married to
- 13:30Speaker 7: Vicky and that it was all a mess.
- 13:35Speaker 1: Michael looked Karen up on Facebook and it turned out
- 13:38Speaker 1: they had mutual friends. They began an online conversation which
- 13:43Speaker 1: soon progressed to flirty text messages, dozens and then hundreds
- 13:47Speaker 1: a day.
- 13:47Speaker 4: It's interesting that Roberts actually got rid of Kerry, who
- 13:53Speaker 4: was a more feisty person, but took up Karen, who
- 13:57Speaker 4: was far more submissive, somebody who would feed his ego
- 14:00Speaker 4: very much.
- 14:02Speaker 1: Over the next few weeks, the pair met regularly. And
- 14:05Speaker 1: in November, they embarked on a sexual relationship, meeting in
- 14:08Speaker 1: hotels and having sex in Robert's sports car. And his
- 14:13Speaker 1: new affair quickly began to have an impact on his marriage.
- 14:18Speaker 10: In just over one month, he sent Karen over 5,000 messages.
- 14:24Speaker 10: He's sending her illicit messages whilst he's having nights in
- 14:28Speaker 10: with his own wife, while he's having dinner with his parents-in-law.
- 14:34Speaker 10: It allows the pervasive presence of the third person in
- 14:38Speaker 10: the relationship into the home.
- 14:41Speaker 2: It's probably stimulating him, the fact that he can talk
- 14:43Speaker 2: sexually and talk to these mistresses while his wife is
- 14:46Speaker 2: sitting there. This would have been a turn-on for him.
- 14:50Speaker 1: To most people, this kind of behaviour would seem unthinkable.
- 14:53Speaker 1: Was there perhaps something in Robert's personality that facilitated this
- 14:57Speaker 1: level of duplicity?
- 14:59Speaker 10: Serial adulterers like Robert's often... come up with psychological mechanisms
- 15:06Speaker 10: for why they can do what they do. Often, they
- 15:10Speaker 10: convince themselves that they deserve it. Why shouldn't they be happy?
- 15:15Speaker 10: Why shouldn't they have their cake and eat it? And
- 15:17Speaker 10: they will come up with these strange reasons that they
- 15:20Speaker 10: use to justify the hurt and the upset that they
- 15:24Speaker 10: could cause. Ultimately, of course, what we're looking at is
- 15:27Speaker 10: someone who's selfish.
- 15:29Speaker 1: So soon after their wedding day, Roberts was deceiving Vicky
- 15:33Speaker 1: once again. And once again, he was going to be
- 15:37Speaker 1: found out. Michael Roberts had a voracious appetite for regular
- 15:47Speaker 1: sex with numerous partners. He also had a craving for
- 15:51Speaker 1: rough sex, including throttling his partners. Was he a sex addict?
- 15:55Speaker 1: Was this simply about pure hedonism or about controlling the
- 16:00Speaker 1: opposite sex? I've come to meet criminologist Dr Elizabeth Yardley
- 16:08Speaker 1: and psychologist Mike Berry to find out what they make
- 16:12Speaker 1: of Robert's extramarital affairs. Was Robert a sex addict?
- 16:17Speaker 6: There was some argument about whether such a thing as
- 16:21Speaker 6: sex addiction exists or not. But what we can say
- 16:24Speaker 6: in this case is he certainly liked to chase. He
- 16:27Speaker 6: seemed to enjoy chasing after women, going from one to another,
- 16:31Speaker 6: quickly moving on. I think he found that exciting. As
- 16:34Speaker 6: do a lot of men, apparently.
- 16:36Speaker 11: And I think we've got to take a step back
- 16:37Speaker 11: from it and say, well, what does sex represent? It
- 16:39Speaker 11: represents power. It represents kind of status for him, essentially.
- 16:44Speaker 11: And he's a man who wants to have his cake
- 16:46Speaker 11: and eat it. He wants to have his wife at
- 16:48Speaker 11: home looking after his needs there, cooking his dinner, doing
- 16:53Speaker 11: those types of things. And then he wants to go
- 16:54Speaker 11: out and have fun on the side as well.
- 16:56Speaker 1: It is about fun.
- 16:57Speaker 2: It's about hedonism.
- 16:58Speaker 1: I mean, is this... About control? Is it not simply about, listen,
- 17:02Speaker 1: I want to have a lot of fun and sex
- 17:04Speaker 1: is a recreation and if my wife doesn't like it, well,
- 17:07Speaker 1: I'll just see if I can get away with it.
- 17:08Speaker 11: Essentially what it's about for me is his priority is
- 17:12Speaker 11: his own wants and needs and desires. It doesn't matter
- 17:15Speaker 11: about anybody else as long as he's fulfilling the things
- 17:17Speaker 11: that he wants, he's achieving the outcomes that he's pursuing,
- 17:21Speaker 11: then to hell with everyone else.
- 17:23Speaker 1: Vicky stayed with him throughout. She knew he was being unfaithful.
- 17:27Speaker 1: She thought she resolved it. Why did she continue to
- 17:30Speaker 1: stay with him?
- 17:31Speaker 11: Well, when she first met him, he wouldn't have been
- 17:35Speaker 11: off having affairs with other women. He would have been very,
- 17:38Speaker 11: very charming towards her. He would have been her knight
- 17:41Speaker 11: in shining armor. And she'll want to be recreating that.
- 17:45Speaker 11: So she wants him. She just doesn't want the cheating
- 17:48Speaker 11: part of him. And she's hoping that that that Michael
- 17:51Speaker 11: that she met is going to one day come back.
- 17:53Speaker 1: Mike, she clearly was prepared to forgive him as long
- 17:56Speaker 1: as he could forget his past affairs and his past
- 18:00Speaker 1: and current girlfriend.
- 18:01Speaker 6: But the history shows that he would continue. Once he's
- 18:04Speaker 6: had a number of affairs, being married I don't think
- 18:06Speaker 6: would have made the slightest bit of difference. Plus, he
- 18:08Speaker 6: likes the excitement. This is clearly a guy who loves
- 18:12Speaker 6: juggling all the balls up in the air and doesn't
- 18:14Speaker 6: care about the consequences to other people.
- 18:16Speaker 11: He is right at the centre of a number of
- 18:19Speaker 11: women's lives and that's where he loves being in the spotlight.
- 18:26Speaker 1: Vicky Roberts was murdered by her husband Michael in November 2009.
- 18:31Speaker 1: The couple had been married for just five months and
- 18:34Speaker 1: the wedding had gone ahead despite Vicky finding out he'd
- 18:37Speaker 1: been having an affair. He promised to change his ways.
- 18:43Speaker 1: But within weeks of their big day, Roberts was cheating
- 18:46Speaker 1: on Vicky again with a colleague called Karen. On November 21st,
- 18:57Speaker 1: eight days before Vicky's death, Karen texted Roberts to say...
- 19:01Speaker 1: She had ended her relationship with her partner so she
- 19:04Speaker 1: could be with him. Roberts replied to say he had
- 19:12Speaker 1: also ended his relationship with Vicky and that he was
- 19:14Speaker 1: now living at his parents' house.
- 19:17Speaker 4: Roberts clearly told Karen that he was leaving Vicky, leaving
- 19:22Speaker 4: her for good. Her marriage was finished. In order to
- 19:25Speaker 4: keep things going with Karen, in order to keep her
- 19:28Speaker 4: on board, because she is someone who is giving up
- 19:31Speaker 4: a relationship herself would expect the same from him.
- 19:35Speaker 1: Roberts clearly wanted to have his cake and eat it
- 19:38Speaker 1: by keeping both Karen and Vicky on side. But his
- 19:42Speaker 1: behaviour at home soon began to arouse Vicky's suspicions once again.
- 19:46Speaker 1: He was spending an unusual amount of time on or
- 19:50Speaker 1: texting other people and would fly into a rage if
- 19:53Speaker 1: Vicky challenged him. Close friends remember that around this time
- 19:57Speaker 1: she grew increasingly unhappy.
- 20:00Speaker 9: She almost became obsessed with finding out information and you
- 20:04Speaker 9: can feel what an awful dark place she would have
- 20:07Speaker 9: been in. And the more she doubted him, the more
- 20:10Speaker 9: her self-esteem and the more darker place she would have entered,
- 20:15Speaker 9: which led to her trying to find out as much
- 20:18Speaker 9: as she could of what he was up to.
- 20:21Speaker 1: With her doubts mounting, Vicky decided to read her husband's
- 20:24Speaker 1: Facebook messages. And she soon found clear-cut evidence of his
- 20:29Speaker 1: affair with Karen.
- 20:31Speaker 7: She was distraught and heartbroken to think that despite just
- 20:35Speaker 7: a few months of marriage and him promising to be
- 20:38Speaker 7: faithful to her that Roberts had begun an affair with
- 20:42Speaker 7: another woman at work.
- 20:52Speaker 1: Vicky began to print out page upon page of Roberts'
- 20:55Speaker 1: secret correspondence. She told her friends that she was going
- 20:58Speaker 1: to spy on him at work in order to catch
- 21:00Speaker 1: a glimpse of his mistress. She was clearly distraught, though
- 21:04Speaker 1: still keen to save her marriage.
- 21:06Speaker 2: In any relationship you're in, if you still love your partner,
- 21:10Speaker 2: whatever that partner's going to do, you stand by them.
- 21:13Speaker 2: You may confront them. Now, it's very easy for us
- 21:15Speaker 2: to say, why didn't she just get out? She knew
- 21:17Speaker 2: he was having affairs, but she loved him. And this
- 21:22Speaker 2: was true love. And of course, true love can make
- 21:24Speaker 2: us all blind at some stage.
- 21:30Speaker 9: When you look at her actions and how she's starting
- 21:33Speaker 9: to look at his Facebook messages and his social media accounts,
- 21:36Speaker 9: you can almost feel the desperation in her. She was
- 21:40Speaker 9: so wanting her husband not to cheat on her, and
- 21:44Speaker 9: she was devastated when she found out he was still
- 21:47Speaker 9: doing that.
- 21:48Speaker 1: As well as making printouts of Robert's Facebook chats with
- 21:51Speaker 1: other women, Vicky went through his wallet and found receipts
- 21:55Speaker 1: from a hotel where he'd been spending time with his mistress, Karen.
- 21:59Speaker 1: Vicky now felt she had conclusive proof of Roberts' new
- 22:02Speaker 1: infidelities and the situation was now about to reach a
- 22:06Speaker 1: critical point.
- 22:08Speaker 10: For Roberts, things would have been coming to a head
- 22:11Speaker 10: because he was trying to live too many lives in
- 22:16Speaker 10: the days of electronic recording, social media, photographs and Facebook evidence.
- 22:23Speaker 1: Roberts repeatedly told Vicky that his extramarital affairs were over
- 22:28Speaker 1: and done with. But at the very same time, he
- 22:31Speaker 1: was also telling his mistress, Karen, that his marriage was over.
- 22:37Speaker 1: If he really wanted to be with Karen, why didn't
- 22:39Speaker 1: he just end things with Vicky?
- 22:44Speaker 2: Vicky gave him stability. Vicky gave him a sense of normality.
- 22:51Speaker 10: This is my wife.
- 22:52Speaker 3: This is my home.
- 22:53Speaker 2: I finish work. I go home. Everybody likes to have
- 22:57Speaker 2: an element of normality in their life.
- 23:01Speaker 1: Roberts had become trapped in his own web of lies
- 23:04Speaker 1: and must have felt that he risked losing both Vicky
- 23:06Speaker 1: and Karen and that his whole world could come crashing down.
- 23:17Speaker 1: On the night before she died, Vicky and Roberts went
- 23:19Speaker 1: to dinner at his parents' house before returning back to
- 23:23Speaker 1: their flat here in Runcorn to watch TV. All the while,
- 23:26Speaker 1: Roberts was texting his lover, Karen, making arrangements to meet
- 23:30Speaker 1: the following day. At the same time, Vicky was contemplating
- 23:33Speaker 1: the receipt she had in her bag, which proved her
- 23:36Speaker 1: husband's infidelity, including a bar bill from a hotel where
- 23:39Speaker 1: he had taken his lover, Karen. It seems she had
- 23:43Speaker 1: decided to confront him about his affairs once and for all.
- 23:47Speaker 1: On the morning of her murder, Vicky used her laptop
- 23:50Speaker 1: to look up the hotel that Roberts had stayed in
- 23:52Speaker 1: with Karen. It seems that finally she had decided to
- 23:56Speaker 1: take action.
- 23:57Speaker 3: Vicky confronted him with some printouts of Facebook messages between
- 24:03Speaker 3: him and Karen and also some receipts from a hotel
- 24:08Speaker 3: where they both stayed.
- 24:08Speaker 5: What did you get?
- 24:14Speaker 1: What did you get?
- 24:18Speaker 7: They argued and it's thought that she threatened to tell
- 24:22Speaker 7: his parents that he'd been cheating on his new wife.
- 24:27Speaker 7: That appears to have been the tipping point.
- 24:29Speaker 4: I think at that point he began to see no
- 24:32Speaker 4: particular way out. He began to see this as a
- 24:35Speaker 4: brick wall, as something whereby he was going to lose
- 24:39Speaker 4: Vicky anyway, he was going to lose face. I think
- 24:45Speaker 4: there was probably... a rush of sadistic violence within him
- 24:49Speaker 4: that came to the fore.
- 24:54Speaker 1: It seems that when confronted by Vicky, Roberts flew into
- 25:00Speaker 1: a rage and overpowered her. And in a fit of anger,
- 25:04Speaker 1: he put his hands around her neck. She resisted, but
- 25:09Speaker 1: he was much too strong. Within a few minutes, Roberts
- 25:14Speaker 1: had strangled Vicky to death. For the vast majority of people,
- 25:25Speaker 1: taking the life of another human being is something they'd
- 25:28Speaker 1: never contemplate. But what Roberts did after he killed Vicky
- 25:32Speaker 1: suggests he wasn't like most people.
- 25:36Speaker 9: When we look at murder cases, the behaviour of the
- 25:39Speaker 9: perpetrator after the murder is always really significant. That tells
- 25:44Speaker 9: us a lot about what thought processes are going through
- 25:48Speaker 9: their mind. It also tells us a lot about their personality.
- 25:51Speaker 3: Anybody.
- 25:52Speaker 9: who has a kind of normal functioning personality, when they've
- 25:55Speaker 9: done something like that, is going to be in a
- 25:58Speaker 9: state of stress. They're going to be elated in some way.
- 26:02Speaker 9: They're going to be nervous. They're going to be talking
- 26:04Speaker 9: in a way that's not normal.
- 26:06Speaker 4: Hey, Karen. How are you?
- 26:10Speaker 1: Robert's actions after he killed Vicky showed a shockingly callous
- 26:13Speaker 1: side to his character.
- 26:15Speaker 3: Oh, you watched the exit?
- 26:17Speaker 11: Really?
- 26:18Speaker 3: One bizarre thing that happened on that night is he
- 26:20Speaker 3: phoned his lover, Karen, And they spoke for over two hours,
- 26:24Speaker 3: I think, about relatively mundane things, such as the X factor,
- 26:29Speaker 3: which kind of struck me as bizarre, really, because it's
- 26:32Speaker 3: not the kind of thing that you talk about when
- 26:34Speaker 3: you've just killed somebody.
- 26:36Speaker 9: For him to speak in such a normal way shows
- 26:38Speaker 9: that he's got no remorse, he's got very little emotion,
- 26:42Speaker 9: which is actually very significant and very indicative of psychopathic traits.
- 26:46Speaker 8: Thanks, bye.
- 26:47Speaker 4: Roberts clearly showed his lack of empathy and the fact
- 26:50Speaker 4: that Vicky didn't really mean that much to him.
- 26:54Speaker 1: Could it be that Michael Roberts had been a psychopath
- 26:57Speaker 1: all along? Roberts had killed Vicky in a fit of
- 27:08Speaker 1: rage after she confronted him about his affair with Karen.
- 27:13Speaker 1: But far from showing any remorse, he decided to carry
- 27:16Speaker 1: on with his life as if nothing had happened. The
- 27:20Speaker 1: day after Roberts killed Vicky, he spent the afternoon shopping
- 27:24Speaker 1: in Chester with his mistress, Karen. He then headed off
- 27:27Speaker 1: to a travel lodge in Bangor where they had sex.
- 27:30Speaker 1: The next day, he arrived at work late and looking
- 27:33Speaker 1: very tired, and he told a colleague that he was
- 27:35Speaker 1: late because Vicky had left him for someone else. That afternoon,
- 27:39Speaker 1: he sent a bogus text to Vicky. Hey, honey, how's
- 27:43Speaker 1: your day going? Roberts appeared to be a very accomplished liar.
- 27:48Speaker 4: Roberts sent text messages and other messages to family and
- 27:54Speaker 4: friends of Vicky and used her own phone to try
- 27:59Speaker 4: and establish that she was still alive and responding to stuff.
- 28:04Speaker 4: He probably thought this was a pretty good way of
- 28:07Speaker 4: covering up her disappearance.
- 28:09Speaker 9: His behaviour's really interesting. He's trying to create a situation
- 28:13Speaker 9: where it's looking like he's not involved. by sending messages
- 28:17Speaker 9: to himself that makes it look like she's still alive.
- 28:20Speaker 4: I think, in fact, he probably saw this as some
- 28:23Speaker 4: kind of success. So he probably began to enjoy this
- 28:28Speaker 4: process because it's a process of manipulation and control over others,
- 28:33Speaker 4: which he would have enjoyed.
- 28:38Speaker 1: It wasn't until December 1st, two days after he killed Vicky,
- 28:41Speaker 1: that Robert set about disposing of her body. he visited
- 28:48Speaker 1: a local supermarket where he bought refuse sacks and sponges.
- 28:52Speaker 1: CCTV captured him casually eating crisps as he left the store.
- 28:56Speaker 3: It was just an everyday thing for him. It's as
- 29:02Speaker 3: if he was shopping for oranges and apples.
- 29:04Speaker 9: The way that he's doing it is very calm. He's
- 29:08Speaker 9: not hurried, he's not nervous. All of his behaviours... are
- 29:13Speaker 9: so indicative of a man that is not feeling anything.
- 29:15Speaker 9: He's not feeling any emotion. He's not feeling upset, but
- 29:19Speaker 9: he's also not feeling scared. Scared that he's going to
- 29:21Speaker 9: get caught out. At this point, he really believes that
- 29:24Speaker 9: he is going to get.
- 29:25Speaker 11: Away with it.
- 29:26Speaker 4: Clearly, this shows that there was no empathy. There was
- 29:29Speaker 4: no base care. Roberts was quite psychopathic in his nature.
- 29:37Speaker 1: Roberts' actions seem to display the mind of a calculating,
- 29:41Speaker 1: cold-blooded killer. But do psychologist Mike Berry and criminologist Dr
- 29:47Speaker 1: Elizabeth Yardley agree that Michael Roberts was a psychopath?
- 29:52Speaker 6: I find it horrifying that He actually kills her and
- 29:55Speaker 6: then he's on the phone as if nothing had happened.
- 29:58Speaker 6: It seems to be very psychopathic in the way he's
- 30:00Speaker 6: dealt with her.
- 30:01Speaker 11: There's a real callousness and a complete lack of empathy.
- 30:05Speaker 11: And it's not in the way that we would see it. Oh,
- 30:09Speaker 11: my goodness, I've just killed my partner. He's not thinking
- 30:11Speaker 11: that way. He's thinking, well, I've just solved a problem.
- 30:14Speaker 11: And then he goes about his daily business covering up
- 30:17Speaker 11: that problem.
- 30:18Speaker 1: Was Roberts planning to kill Vicky for some time?
- 30:20Speaker 6: I don't see any indication of this being a planned
- 30:24Speaker 6: killing at all. It just doesn't have the planning that
- 30:27Speaker 6: you would expect.
- 30:29Speaker 1: So you think it was still an impulsive act and
- 30:30Speaker 1: not a planned act?
- 30:31Speaker 6: Yes, I think it was impulsive. I don't think he
- 30:33Speaker 6: planned to kill her. I think the I'm going to
- 30:35Speaker 6: leave her or it's all going to be over, it's
- 30:37Speaker 6: just merely a way of keeping the mistress on the hook.
- 30:40Speaker 1: It might have been impulsive, but it was still murder.
- 30:43Speaker 11: Well, premeditation doesn't have to be days or hours or
- 30:47Speaker 11: even minutes in the planning. It can be seconds. If
- 30:49Speaker 11: you make a decision to end someone's life, that's murder,
- 30:53Speaker 11: that's not manslaughter.
- 30:54Speaker 6: And he intended, it's a whole issue of intent. If
- 30:56Speaker 6: he intended to harm her and knew the consequences of
- 31:00Speaker 6: what his intentions were, then it's murder.
- 31:05Speaker 1: In June 2009, Vicky and Michael Roberts were married in
- 31:10Speaker 1: what seemed like a dream wedding. But just five months later,
- 31:14Speaker 1: their marriage would come to a deadly end. When Vicky
- 31:20Speaker 1: discovered evidence of his serial adultery, she confronted him and
- 31:24Speaker 1: he brutally murdered her in cold blood. In the days
- 31:29Speaker 1: after the murder, Roberts launched a diabolical campaign of deceit.
- 31:34Speaker 1: Using Vicky's phone, he tried to cover his tracks and
- 31:37Speaker 1: throw her friends, family and even the police off the trails.
- 31:42Speaker 3: He sent himself a text from her mobile phone saying that,
- 31:46Speaker 3: I love you, but I can't keep this up anymore.
- 31:49Speaker 3: I'm going to leave you. And I think he hoped
- 31:52Speaker 3: that people would simply believe that he'd ran off and
- 31:55Speaker 3: that would explain why she'd disappeared.
- 31:57Speaker 4: Robert's psychopathic ability to manipulate others came to the fore
- 32:01Speaker 4: when he began to sort of give the illusion that
- 32:04Speaker 4: Vicky was still around, that she'd actually gone off with
- 32:07Speaker 4: somebody else. And he was devastated, of course. And he
- 32:10Speaker 4: just fluently said, made up a story and followed it
- 32:14Speaker 4: through with friends and her relations and used her own
- 32:18Speaker 4: phone to actually text family and friends to give the
- 32:23Speaker 4: illusion that Vicky was still alive.
- 32:27Speaker 1: Roberts was clearly planning to get away with murder. While
- 32:31Speaker 1: he weaved his web of lies on social media, he
- 32:34Speaker 1: also set about trying to dispose of the evidence of
- 32:36Speaker 1: his crime. He carefully wrapped up Vicky's body... and then
- 32:41Speaker 1: dragged her corpse out of the flat so he could
- 32:43Speaker 1: hide it in their garage. With Vicky's body stowed away,
- 32:48Speaker 1: Roberts then went about his everyday life as though nothing
- 32:52Speaker 1: unusual had happened. Roberts was so convinced that he would
- 32:55Speaker 1: get away with killing Vicky that almost immediately he began
- 32:58Speaker 1: to prepare his flat to entertain his mistress, even to
- 33:02Speaker 1: the extent of buying silk sheets for the bed, all
- 33:04Speaker 1: the while Vicky's body was secreted in the garage. Well,
- 33:08Speaker 1: Vicky's parents got very worried. On December 2nd, her dad
- 33:12Speaker 1: contacted Roberts to ask about her whereabouts. Roberts maintained the
- 33:16Speaker 1: subterfuge and said, haven't you heard? She's left me.
- 33:20Speaker 7: Her parents were demented with worry. It was so unusual
- 33:24Speaker 7: for her not to call or text. They just couldn't
- 33:27Speaker 7: believe that she would have run off with someone else
- 33:31Speaker 7: and made no contact with them.
- 33:33Speaker 1: Roberts continued the ruse of texting from Vicky's phone to
- 33:37Speaker 1: give the impression that she was still alive and that
- 33:40Speaker 1: she'd just left him. He texted her mother and wrote,
- 33:44Speaker 1: Hey Mama, I assume by now Mike has shown you
- 33:46Speaker 1: the message I sent. I'm really sorry for all of
- 33:49Speaker 1: this and I'm okay. I didn't mean to worry you.
- 33:52Speaker 1: Please don't be upset with me. I know it's all
- 33:55Speaker 1: a huge shock, but I couldn't lie anymore. I will
- 33:58Speaker 1: call you soon. I just need to sort my head
- 34:00Speaker 1: out first. Please, please don't be upset with me. Roberts
- 34:05Speaker 1: must have thought he had the mind of a criminal genius.
- 34:10Speaker 1: But little did he know that it wasn't going to
- 34:12Speaker 1: be that easy to deceive Vicky's loved ones.
- 34:16Speaker 10: Roberts believed he could get away with it. He was
- 34:18Speaker 10: a man who's been able to talk people around his
- 34:22Speaker 10: entire adult life. All he needed to do was get
- 34:26Speaker 10: access to Vicky's phone, tell a few lies to the
- 34:29Speaker 10: people that mattered, act that he was the injured party,
- 34:33Speaker 10: and it was going to be easy. He's been lying
- 34:35Speaker 10: to Vicky all this time about his relationships and had
- 34:38Speaker 10: got away with it. Why would lying now not be
- 34:40Speaker 10: any different for him?
- 34:41Speaker 3: He didn't even seem to take care in how he
- 34:44Speaker 3: worded the text. It was obvious to Vicky's mum and dad,
- 34:47Speaker 3: for instance, that he was using language that he wouldn't
- 34:51Speaker 3: normally use.
- 34:53Speaker 7: After four days, they became so suspicious that they decided
- 34:56Speaker 7: to report her missing to police.
- 35:00Speaker 1: Within hours, the police were on the phone to Robert's. Hello?
- 35:05Speaker 9: Hello, is that Michael?
- 35:06Speaker 1: It is.
- 35:08Speaker 5: Hi, Michael, it's the police here at Runcorn.
- 35:11Speaker 1: OK.
- 35:11Speaker 3: We've had a phone call off your wife's dad.
- 35:15Speaker 4: Right.
- 35:16Speaker 3: Saying that she's missing at the moment.
- 35:18Speaker 6: Right.
- 35:18Speaker 3: Obviously, we're a little bit concerned at the moment.
- 35:23Speaker 7: Is there anything else that you can tell.
- 35:24Speaker 2: Us as to why she's gone?
- 35:27Speaker 3: Basically, I got a message yesterday saying that she's left
- 35:33Speaker 3: me for someone else.
- 35:34Speaker 4: Oh, right.
- 35:35Speaker 5: Right.
- 35:35Speaker 1: Right.
- 35:57Speaker 11: With the police now involved, Roberts was rapidly losing.
- 36:00Speaker 2: Control of the situation.
- 36:02Speaker 3: And just a few hours after he first heard from
- 36:04Speaker 3: the police, he received another call.
- 36:26Speaker 8: Hello, Mike Roberts speaking.
- 36:27Speaker 4: Hi, Mike.
- 36:27Speaker 6: It's Sergeant Pilgrim speaking from Cheshire Police.
- 36:30Speaker 8: What would you like to do?
- 36:32Speaker 3: Mike, he's a reporter missing from home.
- 36:34Speaker 1: Right.
- 36:35Speaker 4: I spoke to your colleague this morning. Technically not, because she.
- 36:39Speaker 6: Kind of said what she's done.
- 36:40Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
- 36:41Speaker 2: It's not true in person.
- 36:43Speaker 10: What I need you to do, it might be difficult.
- 36:45Speaker 10: I need you to go home and meet a police
- 36:46Speaker 10: officer at your home address.
- 36:49Speaker 6: Right.
- 36:50Speaker 5: Can you leave now?
- 36:51Speaker 3: Because there's a police officer being assigned.
- 36:54Speaker 1: At 2.40pm, officers visited the couple's home and did a
- 36:57Speaker 1: quick search of the flat and the garage, but they
- 36:59Speaker 1: never saw Vicky's body.
- 37:00Speaker 3: They did notice, however, that Roberts appeared agitated.
- 37:03Speaker 7: The officers left, and Roberts may have thought he'd gotten
- 37:04Speaker 7: away with his crimes.
- 37:23Speaker 1: But the police were intrigued by his anxious behaviour and
- 37:26Speaker 1: decided to question him further. They arrived back at the
- 37:29Speaker 1: address that evening and they noticed a laptop bag full
- 37:33Speaker 1: of printouts of Robert's online conversations. They asked him if
- 37:38Speaker 1: he'd had an affair. He denied it. Suspicions raised, they
- 37:42Speaker 1: decided to search the garage again. This time they noticed
- 37:45Speaker 1: a large wrapped up object. They opened one end and
- 37:48Speaker 1: it revealed Vicky's bloodstained hair and.
- 37:51Speaker 10: Part of her head.
- 37:53Speaker 1: As the police officers were making their gruesome discovery, Roberts
- 37:56Speaker 1: realised the game was up and made a break for
- 37:59Speaker 1: it while they were in his garage. He sprinted off
- 38:03Speaker 1: and managed to escape. Roberts remained at large for three days,
- 38:08Speaker 1: staying at hotels and using a variety of aliases. The
- 38:13Speaker 1: whole time his movements were being recorded on CCTV. While
- 38:21Speaker 1: he was on the run, Roberts was even captured buying
- 38:23Speaker 1: new clothes to try and throw the police off the scent.
- 38:37Speaker 1: He then went to Wrexham and waited for a female
- 38:40Speaker 1: colleague to leave work. He then ushered her down an
- 38:42Speaker 1: alleyway and begged her to believe that Vicky had died
- 38:45Speaker 1: as a result of a sex game gone wrong. He
- 38:48Speaker 1: claimed she'd choked on a dressing gown cord that Vicky
- 38:51Speaker 1: had asked him to tie around her neck. His colleague
- 38:54Speaker 1: didn't believe him and the police were called. Roberts knew
- 38:59Speaker 1: the game was up. From the moment they were alerted
- 39:02Speaker 1: to his location, the police tracked him using CCTV. His
- 39:09Speaker 1: erratic movements show a man who had realised there was
- 39:12Speaker 1: now no way out. As they finally apprehended him, Roberts
- 39:19Speaker 1: told the police he'd been waiting for them. He stuck
- 39:25Speaker 1: to his story that Vicky had died in a sex
- 39:27Speaker 1: game gone wrong. And given Roberts' liking for rough sex,
- 39:31Speaker 1: he must have thought it was an entirely credible story.
- 39:35Speaker 1: So was he about to get away with murder? Michael
- 39:42Speaker 1: Roberts went on trial for Vicky's murder in September 2010.
- 39:45Speaker 1: When he was in the dock, he thought he'd be
- 39:49Speaker 1: able to convince the jury that he was innocent.
- 39:53Speaker 4: Roberts was very adept at producing stories, plausible stories. He
- 39:58Speaker 4: was a salesman, and he approached the court case basically
- 40:02Speaker 4: along the same lines.
- 40:04Speaker 7: He continued to maintain that he was innocent. He said
- 40:09Speaker 7: that he admitted to police that he had killed her,
- 40:12Speaker 7: but claimed it was all an accident and part of
- 40:15Speaker 7: this sex game that had gone wrong.
- 40:16Speaker 4: He had the obvious... thing that yes he indulges in
- 40:21Speaker 4: sadistic sex that involves that kind of strangulation and that
- 40:26Speaker 4: unfortunately he did make up the idea that he was
- 40:30Speaker 4: using a gown cord to strangle Vicky whereas in fact
- 40:35Speaker 4: the labs would very definitely prove it was definitely not
- 40:40Speaker 4: a gown cord and really just undermine his story entirely.
- 40:47Speaker 1: How could Robert's continued to protest his innocence in the
- 40:51Speaker 1: face of such overwhelming evidence.
- 40:56Speaker 4: Roberts had no empathy. In his own mind, he was innocent.
- 41:00Speaker 4: And in his own mind, he had concocted this story
- 41:03Speaker 4: and he wasn't going to give way on that. He
- 41:06Speaker 4: wasn't going to, you know, let his ego, his narcissism
- 41:09Speaker 4: dissolve through the floor of the court.
- 41:13Speaker 1: The prosecution easily proved that Roberts' version of events just
- 41:17Speaker 1: couldn't be true. and his defence fell apart. After a
- 41:21Speaker 1: three-week trial, Roberts was found guilty of murder. He was
- 41:25Speaker 1: jailed for a minimum of 17 years.
- 41:29Speaker 3: When the sentence was handed down, he cried quite a lot.
- 41:33Speaker 3: He had been sobbing throughout most of the trial, but
- 41:35Speaker 3: he certainly seemed to go to pieces. It's impossible to
- 41:40Speaker 3: say why he reacted in that way. Obviously, nobody wants
- 41:43Speaker 3: to go to prison, but I think part of him
- 41:46Speaker 3: did genuinely think he would have gotten away with this
- 41:48Speaker 3: crime When he found out that that wasn't going to happen,
- 41:50Speaker 3: I think a lot of his expectations came crashing down
- 41:53Speaker 3: around him.
- 41:56Speaker 1: It's important for criminologists to categorise social media murderers to
- 42:00Speaker 1: try to prevent similar cases happening in the future. What
- 42:06Speaker 1: kind of murderer do Dr Elizabeth Yardley and Mike Berry
- 42:09Speaker 1: think Roberts was? Liz, how does this tap into the
- 42:13Speaker 1: wider phenomenon of murders through social media?
- 42:16Speaker 11: Well, when we look at the function that social media
- 42:19Speaker 11: played in relation to this murder, we've got the case
- 42:22Speaker 11: of an imposter here. So this is somebody who uses
- 42:25Speaker 11: social media to maintain the illusion that the victim's still
- 42:28Speaker 11: alive to buy themselves a little bit more time. But
- 42:32Speaker 11: it's not just the murder that social media is playing
- 42:35Speaker 11: a role here. He was using it to conduct his
- 42:37Speaker 11: affairs at the same time. So It is in every
- 42:40Speaker 11: corner of this case. It runs right throughout it.
- 42:42Speaker 1: And, of course, Vicky used it to catch him out,
- 42:45Speaker 1: to put him under surveillance, Mike.
- 42:47Speaker 6: Yes, I mean, she was very good in the sense
- 42:49Speaker 6: that she actually got the evidence. Rather than do the
- 42:53Speaker 6: usual emotional argument, I think you're with somebody, she actually
- 42:56Speaker 6: was able to use the internet to show he had
- 42:59Speaker 6: been playing away from home. And I think that was
- 43:01Speaker 6: a very good.
- 43:02Speaker 10: Use of the internet.
- 43:04Speaker 1: Is there any way this murder could have been avoided.
- 43:07Speaker 11: Well, I think we've got to look at the bigger
- 43:09Speaker 11: picture here. We've got to look at not just the
- 43:13Speaker 11: use of social media, but controlling and abusive relationships. So
- 43:17Speaker 11: when you've got men like Roberts who are having affairs,
- 43:21Speaker 11: who aren't changing their behavior, everything is about them. They're
- 43:24Speaker 11: incredibly narcissistic. When we start to hear reports from women
- 43:28Speaker 11: that he slept with, that he's into strangulation and throttling,
- 43:31Speaker 11: that's sending off some alarm bells. Those are significant red flags.
- 43:35Speaker 1: But what surprises you about this case?
- 43:38Speaker 11: Well, what surprises me about this case is something that
- 43:41Speaker 11: we see all the time in relation to intimate partner homicides.
- 43:45Speaker 11: But it's something that I continue to be surprised and
- 43:48Speaker 11: annoyed by. And that's the kind of language that we
- 43:51Speaker 11: use when we're talking about it. So often we'll focus
- 43:54Speaker 11: on the victim's behaviour. So a lot of the media
- 43:57Speaker 11: reports I've read around this case are saying things like,
- 43:59Speaker 11: why did she stay with him? You know, why was
- 44:02Speaker 11: she giving him second chances?
- 44:03Speaker 2: It's not her.
- 44:04Speaker 11: Behaviour that's the problem, it's his. He's the one who
- 44:07Speaker 11: decided to do this. So I think we should be
- 44:09Speaker 11: focusing quite heavily on him.
- 44:12Speaker 1: Michael Roberts used social media to conduct his extramarital affairs
- 44:17Speaker 1: and Vicky used it to uncover his betrayal. No one
- 44:21Speaker 1: guessed Roberts had the potential for such murderous violence. But
- 44:25Speaker 1: when the truth came out, those who knew him as
- 44:27Speaker 1: a cocky phone salesman found out all about his dark side.
- 44:32Speaker 8: I was absolutely gobsmacked. At first I didn't believe that
- 44:37Speaker 8: he'd done it. I thought there must have been some mistake.
- 44:40Speaker 8: My heart goes out to Vicky's family, totally. To think
- 44:43Speaker 8: what Vicky's mum must have gone through. It's heartbreaking. And
- 44:48Speaker 8: the saddest thing is when Mike gets out He's still
- 44:51Speaker 8: got his life ahead of him. She's got nothing, and
- 44:54Speaker 8: he's took that away from her.
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