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The Fabric of Hope: How God Weaves Redemption Through Every Season with Kirby Kelly! · Anchored by the Sword

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Thank you for joining me on this episode of the Anchor by the
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Sword podcast. I pray that today's episode will
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leave you encouraged and also challenged in your faith.
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And I pray that you would take the stories that are talked
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about here today and share them with other people.
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Thank you so much for joining me and enjoy today's episode.
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Hey guys, welcome to this episode, the Anchor by the Sword
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podcast. I am super excited today to
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introduce you guys to Kirby. Kelly, she has a book coming out
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next week called The Fabric of Hope, how God weaves redemption
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into every season. And I've been looking forward to
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talking with her because I've been seeing her posts online and
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not only is she birthing a book baby, she's also birthing a baby
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soon. So when it rains it pours, and
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when births it births so. When the water breaks, it
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breaks. Under that, even if it's during
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the launch. So thank you, Kirby, so much for
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joining me today. Can you tell my listeners a
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little bit about yourself? Yeah, thanks for having me.
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I mean, you hit the nail on the head. 2 laborers of love are
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coming within the same month, which is absolutely insane, but
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I'm super excited about it. My name is Kirby Kelly.
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For those of you who don't know who I am, I'm a speaker, I'm an
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author, I'm a podcaster as well. Bought and Beloved is my podcast
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and I'm a Christian content creator.
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But really like the heart behind everything that I do is I just
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love evangelism. I love discipleship.
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I love to see people equipped to know the word of God because I
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believe that an informed theology informs us to love God
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and relate to the Lord more. And I'm excited for this book
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that's coming out on 7th, The Fabric of Hope, because it is.
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I feel like this book is like literally the story of my life.
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And I'm sure a lot of people relate to it where it's like my
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life has just been marked by suffering.
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Like I feel like life's lemons were being chucked at me since I
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came out the womb, you know? But in the middle of trauma and
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trials and hardship and suffering and doubt and
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unanswered prayers and questions and all the things, the one
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common denominator when I became a Christian that I could see so
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clearly was God's redemption in the middle of it.
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Not just at the very end where it's like, OK, there's light at
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the end of the tunnel. Like, yeah, there is, but
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there's also light with us. Christ, he, he is the light of
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the world, right? Like he is the light, and he is
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the one who actively weaves redemption in the middle of what
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we're going through. And so I'm hoping to just with
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the book, meet people in the middle of whatever they're going
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through, or maybe even after what they've gone through, but
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they haven't seen redemption yet or don't really believe that God
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could do something good with all the bad that's happened in their
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life. And I'm just hoping that through
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exploring Scripture, sharing my own story and the testimony of
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many other people as well that I include in the book that other
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people would be able to look at their own stories and see, wait,
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God is good Life sometimes isn't.
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But being a Redeemer, he steps in and he can do so much more
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with the things that we yield to him.
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So that's what the book's about. And that's what a lot of my
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ministry is championing, championing right now in in all
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my things. And like you said, I'm going to
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be a mom soon. So pushing out a book and then
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pushing out a baby. I love it thank you so much for
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sharing so far I mean like I said, I'm just getting to see
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where you're at online and I just love your heart.
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Thank you. So let's.
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Talk about the freedom story. That led you to do what you're
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doing now. Oh my goodness, y'all, how much
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time do we have? I'll, I'll try and keep it as
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brief as possible because like I said, I feel like there's so
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many things that I've gone through in life.
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I think if people were to look at my life at a surface level,
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specifically the beginning of my life, it's one of those things
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where it's like, really, you seemed like you had it all
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together. And that's because my family was
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really good at performing and putting on this show that like
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everything's fine, We're fine, Everything's great.
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My dad had a great job. My mom was able to be a stay at
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home mom raised the two kids. We had the beautiful house.
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Everything seemed picture perfect from the outside looking
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in. The reality behind closed doors
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was so much chaos, so much chaos.
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And if anyone out there is a child of addiction, then, you
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know, both of my parents were addicts.
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First my father and then eventually my mother.
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And when I was born, I was born in 1997 and we grew up in New
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Jersey at that point in time. I mean, I was born in the UK.
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That's the whole thing. Anyways, Fast forward, we're in
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New Jersey, 911 happens and my dad was there.
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He he witnessed the whole thing. I mean, we lost family, friends,
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like he lost Co workers that he knew, like business partners,
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people in his life. And that was, I say, the straw
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that broke the camel's back for my dad with his addiction that
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really just like full-fledged him into binge drinking, numbing
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the pain. And that caused chaos not only
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in the relationship between my mother and my father, but even
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us as kids having that instability.
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It not only affects the person, it affects the people around
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them. So that eventually led to the
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divorce of my parents just because as much as my mom fought
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for the marriage to reconcile it, he just, he just would not
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give it up or he allowed himself to, I don't know, just be
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full-fledged into that. And my mom's way of coping,
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which is ironic in a way, was to drink.
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So I go from this chaotic situation to now a chaotic
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situation, but in a completely different state after they get
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divorced. And I feel like during that
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whole time in regards to faith and where I was at, I didn't
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really have much of A faith foundation other than praying
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and believing that Jesus died for my sins.
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So I'm good. Like that's the extent of my
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theology at that point. And I remember always asking God
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and praying to God being like, why, why is this happening?
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Like why can't you save my dad from this addiction?
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Why is my mom now going through this thing?
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And then to go down the, the timeline of things.
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Eventually my dad passed away from his addiction when I was
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10, and that opened up a whole other kind of worms of if you
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are so good God, why would you allow this to happen?
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If you could have intervened, if you could have done all these
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things, If you are kind, if you are all these things that you
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say in the word, why am I not seeing it in the way I'm hoping
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for, in the way that I'm expecting in this situation?
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And that's kind of where it ended.
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I didn't really give any space one for God to speak, but I also
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didn't know how to read the Bible.
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I didn't know what his word actually said about who he who
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he was and what active redemption may look like.
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So there was kind of this distance between me and God.
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Even though my mom at that point had sobered up, had gone to
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rehab, she eventually relapsed when I was 14 after I gave my
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life to Jesus. So 14 years old, I give my life
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to the Lord at a Christian summer camp after having
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experienced, you know, the divorce of my parents, the loss
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of my dad, even going through bullying in middle school to the
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point where I, I wanted to end my life.
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I mean, I was self harming, I was suicidal, I did not want to
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be alive. I thought my life had no value,
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no point. And it was when I was 14 at the
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summer camp that I had a real radical encounter with God and
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realized, wait, I'm only joyful. I only feel most alive when I'm
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pursuing you, God, when I'm actually in your presence.
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And at that moment, I just, I yielded to him.
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And at that moment as well, a couple weeks later, my mom
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relapses. And so I'm now in in the thick
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of this season of, OK, what do I do?
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God, I trust you. I've committed my life to you.
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I've seen all this chaos and all this horror in my life up until
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this point. And here I am again in, in this
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same cycle of chaos in my life that is so out of my control.
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What, what do you want to do here and what do you want me to
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do here? And that's kind of where I
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really begin. The book is detailing just the
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relationship with my mother of, of being a child of two addicts,
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of going through many other things as well.
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But I really focus and highlight that story because God met me in
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the middle, in the middle of the mess.
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And although he didn't necessarily resolve it in the
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way I had hoped and expected and prayed for, although I didn't
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see, you know, my mom come to to full freedom from her addiction,
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she passed away a few few years ago.
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I was able to grow in my relationship with the Lord.
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I was able to see Him redeem other things in my life in
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regards to my relationship with my mom and just a million other
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places. And the one thing that has just
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been so true is that God has been faithful through it all to
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be kind, to be compassionate, to be trustworthy, to be faithful
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even when my ideas of what redemption looks like didn't go
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my way. In yielding to Him and trusting
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Him and in whatever His plans and processes were, I ended up
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now looking back, it makes more sense being where I am now
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looking back of what He was doing in the middle of that
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place and how often as we read throughout Scripture.
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God did allow his people to go through suffering.
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He did allow his people to navigate chaos, but he met them
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with his joy. He met them with his peace.
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He met them with his perfect plans.
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He met them with redemption and brought about greater good and
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and sweeter fruit in the middle of the valley then they could
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have ever hoped for or expected. And I think that's, that's true
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for my life and that's what I testify in the book is that we
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can hope in not our circumstances.
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We can hope not in other people, not even in of ourselves, but we
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can hope in God to be consistent with his character, that he we
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can put our faith and put our hope in the fact that he is
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faithful to his promises, his patterns, his presence in his
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personhood every single time, even when things don't change.
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And so I'll, I'll leave it at that because I'm rambling right
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now, but that's kind of like the, the big part of my
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testimony that I that I weave into the book and, and lead
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within the book. Well thank you so much for being
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vulnerable about your story. And I've lost my mom.
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It wasn't due to addiction but she had bipolar so mine was due
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to mental health issues and we had been estranged for three
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years before she passed away so never got to make amends with
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that. So that is something I carry.
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But also just how you've been able to see the redemption
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process. Even if things didn't get tied
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up in a bow, I've been able to see the same thing or redemption
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with my dad or redemptive relationship with him, just
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other things that have happened. God didn't cause her to die,
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just like no, God didn't cause your parents to go into
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addiction, but He turned something that was so negative
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into something that will help many people like Genesis 5020
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tells us. And so I appreciate you sharing
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your story because I know that there's so many people that have
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gone through it one way or another and can relate to it.
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So what Bible verses keep you anchored?
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I think the main verse that is just woven throughout the book
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and has really kept me anchored. I have to actually I want to
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share but the but the main one is Romans 1513 and I love this
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verse. I could spend all day just like
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going into the exegesis of this verse, like expository, all this
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stuff, but it says may the God of hope fill you with all joy
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and peace as you trust in Him so that you may overflow with hope
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by the power of the Holy Spirit. And I'll just speak to that for
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a second that there's, there's so much good truth in that.
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But first of all, we get an identity statement of who God
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is. He's the God of hope.
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Well, what is hope? Because a lot of us think hope
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is just like wishful thinking. Like I hope I get a good parking
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spot so I don't have to walk all the way like across the line in
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the cold or in the in the sun. If you're like me in Texas where
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it's like 112°. It's crazy.
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Or, or you hope that you know, you win the lottery, scratch off
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or whatever. Like like it's this, it's this
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wishful thinking where it's like, I'm kind of just like
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throwing it into the wind and hoping something sticks.
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But like, will it, Won't it? I don't know.
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But what's so different about biblical hope is that it's not
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wishful thinking. It's it's rooted in it, in
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confident expectation, in God's character and his promises and
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his faithfulness. Like, I actually get to hope.
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I actually get to believe with full confidence in this God in
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Yahweh, right? I get to actually have something
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that is, though I'm not seeing it now, I can I can hinge on his
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word and what he has done in the past that he's going to be
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faithful. What does that look like?
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I don't know. When does that look like?
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I don't know. But I know that he is a Redeemer
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and he is good. So may the God of hope fill you
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with peace and joy in whatever you're going through as you
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trust in him. That's the thing that we need to
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to work on, I think. And all of us right.
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Yeah. Is actually trusting God in the
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middle of our circumstances or with the things that happened in
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the past, even that that that have happened where it's like,
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OK, I feel like this is the end of that story.
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It's like he can still come in and fill you with hope, joy and
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peace in the middle of that place as you trust in him.
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That's right though, that you may overflow with hope, Not just
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be like, OK, like I just hope it works out.
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But having this confidence, like I feel like me, Kirby, I feel
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like I overflow with hope because I've been able to trust
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in God and see his faithfulness time and time again.
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And it is by the power of the Holy Spirit that I have this
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joy, this peace and this conviction.
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So that's the first verse that has just completely defined
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everything that I've gone through up until this point.
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And I will continue to believe as I go through more things
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because life happens, right, right.
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Broken world. But the second verse, and I
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didn't even realize that this was a verse that I feel like God
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gave me when I got saved, where I was like, this is like my
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foundation verse. And now like however many years
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it's been, I was 14 when I got saved, I'm 28 now.
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It's like looking back, I'm like, wow, this is still so
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applicable. And it comes from the book of
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James, which is such a good book.
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And it's James 4:15. And it says instead you should
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say, if the Lord wills, we will live and do this or that.
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And I think that this also is encapsulated in the book of just
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this trust, this yielding of like God, whatever you want to
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do here, whatever you want to do in me, whatever you want to do
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with these broken pieces that have just shattered all over the
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floor that I would have just swept up and thrown away.
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Like he wants to take those pieces and make it like a
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mosaic, Like he wants to actually do something and
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reduce, reuse, recycle it into something that's like actually
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worth way, way more because his hands touched it.
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So I think those two verses, Romans 1513 and James 415 have
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been like my 2 anchors that have that have really guided my life
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and curated or nurtured my relationship and my trust in
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God. And I've been able to see the
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fruit of that, of trusting God in the middle of everything
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that, wow, God, you really do work all things for good, not
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work all things the way that I want it to happen.
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Because God's will doesn't always go our way, but it always
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ends up so much better. And I really believe that.
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Yeah, absolutely. The one thing I want to go back
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to is you talk about 911. Yeah, and I'm a lot older than
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you. Like when you were born, I was
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graduating high school. So there you go.
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So 911, I remember like it was yesterday.
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I'm in Ohio and one of the planes flew right over our
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heads. Flight 93 flew right over our
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heads. And so I remember where I was.
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I remember all the feelings, all the everything.
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And I've talked to numerous people who have walked that path
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afterwards and had to deal with the after effects of it and
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again, losing people as well. And I think that it's good that
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we remember every year, but I also know that it can bring up
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some of that grief and some of that trauma.
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Again, I personally have been to the memorial five Times Now.
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And I just, it's something that I think everybody needs to go
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see because I don't know, I get tired of people trying to wash
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that away and wipe it away and put it under the rug and act
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like it never happened, like they did with the Holocaust and
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all that kind of stuff. It's like, yeah, it did happen.
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Let's acknowledge that it happened.
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And what what good can we take from those things?
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And so let's talk about how, because you talk about that, you
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walk through God. How can you possibly bring
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something good from this? Yeah, let's talk about.
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That a little bit. Absolutely.
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That's very real, especially when you're in the middle of
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something that feels so bad, so catastrophic, So just upside
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down, like it turns your world upside down.
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I mean, for instance, like the death of my parents, I feel like
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a lot of people have lost people.
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Maybe for other people, rewind it back a couple years when the
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pandemic happened. I mean, that really shook up a
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lot of people. Their sense of security and
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safety, their sense of, of health, their sense of who do we
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trust? The dissension even that
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happened at that time between, between just people from all
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over, like whatever spectrum politically or you know, what
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background you come from, like nationally, it's just there was
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so much that happened even a few years ago where it's like people
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are still just in this place where it's like, God, what good
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can come from all this? I feel like there's just more
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division, more brokenness, more instability, more chaos in my
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life. What good could come from
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whatever that is? So whoever's listening, maybe
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there's something in your life that you can specifically
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identify, whatever that is. I really just want to encourage
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you with the story of of Joseph. And you kind of already alluded
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to that with Genesis 5020, which is so good.
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And I write about that in the book.
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I also write about Paul, I write about Joe, I write about Jesus,
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where they went through different things, where it's
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like, where is God's hand in this?
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Where is God's provision in this?
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Like with the story of Joseph, he was sold into slavery by his
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family. They lied about his death.
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He gets thrown into the prison, thrown into the pit actually,
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and then prison is falsely accused, is forgotten about.
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Like, and this isn't like we read a couple of pages, we flip
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a page and then it's like, okay, all of a sudden now he's in the
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palace like second in command or whatever.
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And it's like. This happened over a years, like
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a long period of time. If I were Joseph, I'd probably
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be like, God, what the heck is going on?
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Where are you right? But to your point of Genesis
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5020, there's this, there's this moment where in the middle of
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famine, Joseph is able to actually do a lot within, within
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his legislation and his ability to provide for the people and
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help the people and his brothers end up showing up.
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They don't even recognize him, right?
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They've kind of like just forgotten about him.
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And then they realize, oh, this person that we are are talking
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to is her brother. They forged a fake note in their
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father's name being like, hey, forgive them.
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They didn't really know, you know, they didn't mean to do
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that or whatever. And it's like Joseph knows, like
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he reads this letter and it's like he looks at them and and I
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think Joseph really shows us in that moment where it's like you
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really can hold on to bitterness.
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You can choose resentment. You can choose to justify
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abandoning God, abandoning those who have literally been your
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enemy. Like you can make that decision,
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but the decision that he makes is to love them and to see God's
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plans and purposes in all of the mess.
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And that's where we get the verse where he says, you know
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what, what you all intended for evil, God meant for good, not
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just for him, not just for them, but for for all for the nations.
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Many, many benefited from all the things that he went through
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because it was all the things that he went through that
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actually brought about intimacy and trust with God.
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It was, it was in the wrestling and, and it's in even our own
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wrestle in our laments in crying out to God in, in genuine
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honesty within this broken world and, and seeking his face that I
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think that not only we grow in our relationship with God of, of
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actually choosing to turn to him, but I think that he does
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something so miraculous within us.
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Or I've even seen in me of developing like the fruits of
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the spirit, really cultivating like, wow, I actually have
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compassion for the people in this broken world who do not
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know what they're doing that are, that are evil and sinful
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and deceived and hurting and broken.
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Like I actually have compassion for these people and I, I want
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to love them. I want to be a person who is a
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peacemaker. I want to be someone who, who
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can step into this world and be a representative of Christ.
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It's like it's in that place of crushing and pressing, we're
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also molding and sanctification can happen.
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And so I think one of the greatest gifts of suffering is
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that if we choose to look to God and shift our perspective from
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our situation to him, he then actually gives us a different
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lens to look at our situation with, at the world, with at our
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own suffering with as something to be.
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I don't want to say embraced in in the sense of of, you know,
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OK, I'm just going to live in this place and accept all the
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bad things happening to me. But God, I, I accept that this
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is what has happened. But what do you want to do with
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it? Like what good.
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It can't come from it, but sometimes it takes time.
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Sometimes it takes time to see a full resolution, to see the full
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redemption, to see. I don't know what it could
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really be purposed for, but I believe even before you get to
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the finish line or the end of that story or the end of that
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season, that God can be up to something so good within you in
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that place. And I think that is the real
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treasure is, is the sanctifying work that can happen in the
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middle of our suffering that actually makes us more like
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Christ. I mean, we see that all
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throughout the New Testament, all throughout the epistles of
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Paul, even with, with the, with the thorn in his flesh, the
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messenger of Satan that was sent to torment him and how it was in
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his weakness that he was able to see God magnified.
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And if we as Christians really love the Lord and want to see
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the the will of God in our life, in the Kingdom and in this
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world, then I look at weakness as one of those things where
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it's like, wow, more of God gets to show up in this place.
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It's a it's a total reframing when you actually read the
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scriptures, believe the scriptures, trust in God and and
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dare to hope. Dare to hope in the middle of
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what can be so easy to give up in.
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So that's just that's what I want to encourage people with if
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they're in the middle of a places.
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Dare to hope even when it feels fragile, even when it when it
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feels vulnerable, because God is going to deal with you so gently
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where the world has just chucked lemons at you.
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He is the great physician. He is our comforter.
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He has our confidence. He is who he says he is and we
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can trust him in the middle of the mess to do something
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miraculous. I'm proof of that.
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The people of Scripture or proof of that, and we can cling on to
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that hope knowing that this is the same God who wants
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relationship with us so we can have that same hope for our
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unique situations today. I love that so much.
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There's so much goodness in that.
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And that brings me to the part I want to talk about in closing.
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And it kind of wraps all of this up where you are walking this
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out right now. I just saw your post the other
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day where you are talking about how to handle the grief of
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losing your mom while pregnant and are you having a girl?
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I am. So that's awesome.
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Congratulations. So now you're kind of coming
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full circle on this. So let's let's talk about that.
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Yeah, that has been such an it's just been God, like literally
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that it's, it's as simple as saying like God is just written
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all over this in the sense of in losing my mom because she made
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decisions that impacted her health, that impacted her
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well-being. She ended up passing away from a
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multitude of things, not just her drinking, but there was a
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botched surgery, sepsis. Like there were all these things
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that led to her body being at such a weak state that when it
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came to fight mode, her body couldn't fight because of her
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drinking. Yeah.
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And she ended up passing away like days after Mother's Day.
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I think that's also why I've just been grieving a lot is
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like, not only am I becoming a mom while grieving my mom, I'm
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going to have my baby at like end of April, maybe beginning of
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May, depending on when she arrives.
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And then it's like Mother's Day, my mom's death anniversary.
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So that is just something that I am in expectation of knowing is
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coming up and I'm going to be postpartum.
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Like, we'll see what the horrible is, how I do.
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So I have been grieving. I've been grieving a lot.
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And I probably will for the rest of my life continue to grieve
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because grief is like glitter. Like glitter is kind of hard to
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get out of anywhere. And sometimes you'll just like
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find a little piece somewhere And it's like, oh, I didn't know
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that this was going to show up here today on date these days or
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of all days, whatever. But to your point, it really has
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been full circle, especially my mom died in in 2023 and I pre
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grieved the season that I'm in right now a lot thinking that,
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oh, if I ever get pregnant and become a mom, it's going to be,
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I don't want to say the worst thing ever, but for me it was.
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I know that I'm going to go through grief and that's going
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to be the worst thing ever. Being a mother is going to be so
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much harder. Like a season that's supposed to
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be filled with so much joy and celebration and, and all these
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things. I could not see the good in it,
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if I'm being honest, being in the place of grief.
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But my husband and I, you know, when I ended up taking a
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pregnancy test cuz he was like, I think you might be pregnant
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just cuz my body was looking a little different.
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He's like, I think you might be pregnant.
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I was like, OK, I took that test and I remember seeing the 2
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lines on it and I might tear up, but I remember seeing the 2
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lines on it and they were like very faint.
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And the only thing that I felt was joy.
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That was the only thing that I felt.
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And this was, you know, end of summer 2025 S what about 2 1/2
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years removed from my mom passing away.
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And I remember just being so surprised by that, being so
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surprised at the joy that I felt in that moment of something that
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I was expecting to be the most debilitating and horrific
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emotional roller coaster to go on.
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But it turned out to be like the biggest blessing from God.
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Like I feel like giving birth to a daughter, as much as I grieve
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my mom and wish she was here and grieve what we had, what we
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didn't have, all the things you know, in in her passing.
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I'm able to see God's redemption in this of wow.
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Now I get to be the the best parts of my mom and I also get
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to redeem the parts that weren't so good, the parts that were
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broken. I get to step in and be a part
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of this little girl's life of, of loving her and developing
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her, being a safe person for her, seeing God work that out.
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And I do cry. I do grieve.
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I miss my mom. I love my mom.
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My mom was the best person, especially when she was sober.
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She's my favorite. I love her.
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That's why it hurts so much to see her suffer.
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But I know that she is in the best place with the best person.
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She's fully free. And so I have, I have rest in
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that like I, I can have joy in knowing that, you know, she's,
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she's somewhere far better than if she were to be here, because
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who knows, who knows how much worse it could be with her being
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here and still suffering with her addiction.
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But I'm just so expectant for this little girl to be like the
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bow. Like I feel like she really is
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the bow that is wrapping this whole thing up.
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I didn't get to kind of like you with your mom.
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It was such a complex relationship where I didn't get
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to see a a pretty pink bow on top of all these things that I
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was actively working through with her while she was alive.
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And then she just dies. And I'm not saying that I'm
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trying to resurface all those things, but I just know that
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having a daughter, I'm like, this is the bow.
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Like, yes, this is the redemption I wasn't expecting.
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This is the joy that I wasn't expecting.
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This is the peace that I wasn't expecting.
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And I think God is so good in that he really does work all
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things out for good and does the, the unimaginable, the
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unexplainable, the, the things that we don't even know to pray
31:29
for. He, he does those things and he
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blesses us in, in miraculous ways.
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And so whoever's listening, if you're just like, really, what,
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what, what is God going to do from this thing that I don't
31:40
have closure from and that I really have no hope of seeing be
31:45
revived or restored. That thing might not end up
31:49
being what you expect, like the blessing might not be what you
31:53
expected. It's probably going to be more
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better, more beautiful, more suitable for the season that
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you're in. And God really is that kind and
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good to, to do it. So it's, it's been a hard season
32:04
of holding grief, but it's been a beautiful season of well as
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well of, of holding on to the goodness of God.
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I've been able to hold on to both and see his hands in both,
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his face in both, his blessing in both and so it's it's been a
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way better season than I could have ever hoped for or expected.
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I love it. I'm I'm just so happy for you
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and just congratulations. Thank you.
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I can't wait to see her picture because I'm excited for you.
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Beautiful little girl. So where can people find you and
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where can they get a copy of your book?
32:45
And there's also something for pre-order.
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Yeah, yeah. We love free things, right?
32:51
Don't just love when you get something free like with your I
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don't know, you go to the mall and they're like here's like a
32:56
freebie and it's like like that's the best part, like
32:59
forget the purchase. Give me the like, forget this
33:03
guy came for what did you give me that's free.
33:06
So if you do choose to pre-order the book, which you can go to
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fabricofhopebook.com or you can get it literally, you know,
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Amazon, Barnes and Noble Christian book.
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If you have like a specific retailer you like, you can do
33:19
that. But if you want the list of all
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the retailers, go to fabricofhopebook.com.
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That is where you can input your order.
33:27
So if you get it from Amazon, if you get it from audio, audible,
33:30
whatever, put in your info on there and I will send you, it'll
33:34
send you to a landing page where you can get a free like guided
33:39
prayer journal because we need that.
33:41
Like we've gone through things and it's like, how do I actually
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see this actively in my life right now today?
33:47
You can start working on that. It's just a free downloadable
33:50
thing. I also made a five part teaching
33:53
video series where we dive into some of the hard questions of,
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well, why would a good God allow suffering?
33:58
Can God really redeem all things?
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Like we're talking about the worst of the worst.
34:02
So we get into like the thick theology questions of suffering
34:06
and I break it down and you can read the 1st.
34:09
I believe it's 3 chapters of the book ahead of time even though
34:13
it's like a week ahead, but you can still catch up or start now
34:17
by reading the first 3 chapters as well.
34:19
And if you want to follow me anywhere, my username is Kirby
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is a boss. I made it when I was 13.
34:24
Don't judge. So YouTube, Instagram is where I
34:28
mainly hang out TikTok as well. You can follow me at Kirby is a
34:32
boss and keep up to date with baby with buck with with
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everything God's doing in my life.
34:37
And I'd love to connect with y'all as well and just hear what
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God is doing in your life, especially if you read the book.
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I would love to just hear how God is ministering to you.
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And you can check out my podcast bot and Beloved as well.
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All that is linked on my website.
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So yeah. Awesome, guys.
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Go follow the links in the show notes and go get yourself a copy
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of A Fabric of Hope and Kirby. Thank you so much for hanging
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out with me and my audience today and have a great rest of
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the day and good luck. All right, talk to you guys next
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week. Thank you so much for joining me
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35:14
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35:18
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