Latest / Fully Disclosed: Real Estate in Real Life / Episode 1: The deal behind the deal. The offer is accepted. What could possibly go wrong?
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Welcome to Fully Disclosed Real Estate, Real Life, an NP
- 0:06Speaker 1: Dodge Council Buffs podcast created and produced by real estate
- 0:09Speaker 1: agents who live this stuff every day. We're pulling back
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- 0:27Speaker 1: not represent NP Dodge. Now let's get Fully Disclosed.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Welcome to Fully Disclosed Real Estate and Real Life. I'm
- 0:37Speaker 2: Jesse Scudler.
- 0:38Speaker 3: I'm Tracy True.
- 0:39Speaker 1: And I'm Drew Rowe, and we are agents here at
- 0:41Speaker 1: NP Dodge Real Estate here in Council Bluffs.
- 0:44Speaker 4: And we made a podcast. We sure did. It took
- 0:48Speaker 4: a minute, but we got here. One of the.
- 0:50Speaker 1: Beautiful things about this is everybody in our office will
- 0:52Speaker 1: be included. So there's going to be agents coming and
- 0:55Speaker 1: going throughout the episode. So it's going to be really
- 0:58Speaker 1: all inclusive and just really, really great.
- 1:00Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:00Speaker 3: It'll be really fun.
- 1:01Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be really fun.
- 1:02Speaker 2: Let's tell them how we got here, where it started
- 1:06Speaker 2: from our Wednesday morning groups.
- 1:08Speaker 3: Yeah, so on Wednesday mornings, you know, we get together
- 1:12Speaker 3: and just talk about anything and everything that we're dealing
- 1:14Speaker 3: with with our clients and our transactions and things we're
- 1:16Speaker 3: seeing in the market. And I think we just decided
- 1:19Speaker 3: that it would be good information for everybody to have
- 1:21Speaker 3: and not just keep to ourselves.
- 1:22Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Yeah, just the amount of information from seasoned agents all
- 1:27Speaker 1: the way to new people coming in.
- 1:28Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
- 1:29Speaker 1: There's just so much that we have come up just
- 1:33Speaker 1: in general.
- 1:34Speaker 4: Right.
- 1:34Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
- 1:35Speaker 1: From all different directions. That just blows your mind. So
- 1:38Speaker 1: this is a great platform to just share that information
- 1:40Speaker 1: and really show people what this is like, what real
- 1:45Speaker 1: estate buying and selling really is like.
- 1:46Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:47Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:47Speaker 2: And a behind-the-scenes look at what we do every day.
- 1:51Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are curious about that
- 1:53Speaker 3: because they don't always really understand it. So I think
- 1:56Speaker 3: there will be a lot of good takeaways even if
- 1:58Speaker 3: they're not buying and selling, just people that are interested.
- 2:00Speaker 4: Right.
- 2:00Speaker 2: And that's really the hope and the heart behind this
- 2:03Speaker 2: whole thing is that it's just information for the public.
- 2:07Speaker 4: Take from it what you will.
- 2:08Speaker 3: Well, and then, of course, some of the funny stories, too.
- 2:11Speaker 3: The random things that come up that even we're just like,
- 2:14Speaker 3: are you kidding me?
- 2:15Speaker 4: Swords and houses?
- 2:17Speaker 3: There aren't really swords.
- 2:22Speaker 4: It happens.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Even just puzzle piecing all the different moving parts of
- 2:31Speaker 1: any real estate transaction is fascinating. There are so many...
- 2:35Speaker 1: things happening all at once that a lot of people
- 2:38Speaker 1: don't realize how involved this really is.
- 2:41Speaker 3: And there's so many pieces to that. If you didn't,
- 2:43Speaker 3: if this wasn't something that you were dealing with every day,
- 2:45Speaker 3: it would be probably fairly frustrating because there's not always
- 2:48Speaker 3: a lot of avenues to go to. Right.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Right.
- 2:51Speaker 3: To figure it out and to piece that stuff together.
- 2:54Speaker 4: Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot of moving parts.
- 2:56Speaker 2: I think someone at one time had said, From the
- 2:59Speaker 2: time we have an accepted offer to the time it closes,
- 3:03Speaker 2: it's 180 or 190 different things that we end up
- 3:07Speaker 2: doing behind the scenes that hopefully the public just doesn't
- 3:10Speaker 2: even realize we are taking care of. All they know
- 3:13Speaker 2: is they wrote their offer, got it accepted, and they
- 3:16Speaker 2: saw a closing date where they got keys.
- 3:18Speaker 3: I mean, and if your team is doing their job,
- 3:20Speaker 3: that's how it should feel.
- 3:21Speaker 1: Right.
- 3:22Speaker 3: Right.
- 3:22Speaker 4: Exactly. And fun. Yeah. All of the good feels.
- 3:25Speaker 3: It's supposed to be fun and exciting.
- 3:27Speaker 4: Right.
- 3:27Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, this is one of the biggest things
- 3:29Speaker 1: that anybody will have to do in their lives is
- 3:32Speaker 1: buying a home or selling a home. Yeah. That's a
- 3:35Speaker 1: huge time and emotional investment for a lot of people.
- 3:39Speaker 4: Right.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:39Speaker 3: I mean, and sometimes, you know, when they're selling, that
- 3:41Speaker 3: can be bittersweet and stuff too.
- 3:42Speaker 1: Right.
- 3:43Speaker 3: So making sure that you find the right people just
- 3:44Speaker 3: to walk through that with you. Yeah. How do they
- 3:46Speaker 3: even get started in it is some of the things
- 3:48Speaker 3: that we talk about in the group on Wednesdays because
- 3:50Speaker 3: a lot of people miss, you know, they start off
- 3:52Speaker 3: with just going online and looking at houses.
- 3:55Speaker 4: Right.
- 3:56Speaker 3: And we've seen that that doesn't always, that's not really,
- 3:59Speaker 3: not always the best place to start.
- 4:01Speaker 2: Especially when they hit that mortgage calculator that's online and think, oh,
- 4:05Speaker 2: I can afford that payment.
- 4:07Speaker 4: Yeah. And it's not all the payment.
- 4:09Speaker 1: Right.
- 4:10Speaker 3: Right.
- 4:10Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and even closing costs and those little tidbits
- 4:13Speaker 1: are always over. Every single time. There's parts of it
- 4:17Speaker 1: that people just don't think about.
- 4:19Speaker 3: Well, and sometimes they don't realize that the down payment
- 4:22Speaker 3: and closing costs are two separate things.
- 4:23Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 4:23Speaker 3: And they have to have both when they come to
- 4:25Speaker 3: the table.
- 4:25Speaker 1: Right.
- 4:26Speaker 4: Or figure out if you can negotiate part of that.
- 4:28Speaker 3: Right.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Or even something as a home warranty versus insurance. I've
- 4:33Speaker 1: had people think that they're the same thing when they're not.
- 4:36Speaker 2: Right.
- 4:37Speaker 1: All these, like I said, all these different things.
- 4:40Speaker 2: Or even dealing with flood insurance on top of homeowner's insurance.
- 4:44Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 4:44Speaker 1: Or whether or not it's required. Or, in some instances,
- 4:47Speaker 1: as here in Council Bluffs, sometimes that flood map changes.
- 4:51Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 4:51Speaker 1: And that can get tricky.
- 4:53Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. What is it?
- 4:55Speaker 2: Every even year, I think, is when FEMA redrafts those lines.
- 4:58Speaker 2: So every even year, we're double-checking that.
- 5:01Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 5:02Speaker 4: You know.
- 5:02Speaker 3: So all that said, I think that the best place
- 5:05Speaker 3: that people can start probably is talking either to an
- 5:07Speaker 3: agent or a lender.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Right.
- 5:09Speaker 3: Because one, we want to make sure that obviously they're
- 5:11Speaker 3: pre-approved and see what they can use before. It's terrible
- 5:14Speaker 3: when they go and they fall in love with a
- 5:16Speaker 3: house that they found online and they get into it
- 5:18Speaker 3: and realize they can't actually afford it.
- 5:20Speaker 4: Right.
- 5:20Speaker 3: It's heartbreaking for them.
- 5:21Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 5:22Speaker 3: And so starting with the lender obviously is always the
- 5:24Speaker 3: best thing or even if they come to us first.
- 5:27Speaker 4: Right. Yeah, because- All of us have those relationships.
- 5:30Speaker 2: We can help line them up with lenders that are
- 5:33Speaker 2: familiar with things in our local market, not necessarily an
- 5:36Speaker 2: internet lender where there's more disconnect there, but someone that's
- 5:41Speaker 2: local to our market and understands it.
- 5:44Speaker 3: Well, and then, I mean, with where we are in Iowa,
- 5:47Speaker 3: where it's either Iowa title guarantee or title insurance, it
- 5:50Speaker 3: makes a huge difference for the lender. Huge piece. And
- 5:52Speaker 3: if they really understand our market with what we can
- 5:55Speaker 3: go with, because obviously title insurance is cheaper. Right.
- 5:58Speaker 4: Right. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of moving pieces there.
- 6:01Speaker 1: There are.
- 6:02Speaker 4: Only in Iowa. Only in Iowa.
- 6:04Speaker 3: Well, it's particularly this part of Iowa since we are
- 6:08Speaker 3: with Pottawatomie County.
- 6:09Speaker 1: Right.
- 6:11Speaker 3: I think another thing that people don't always realize also
- 6:13Speaker 3: as they're going through that process is the pending thing
- 6:16Speaker 3: and that that doesn't necessarily mean sold because I get
- 6:19Speaker 3: asked a lot. I'll have my buyers reaching out to
- 6:22Speaker 3: me and they're sending me listings that they found online
- 6:24Speaker 3: and it's pending. Yeah. They either don't realize, they usually
- 6:29Speaker 3: just don't know what that means.
- 6:30Speaker 4: Right.
- 6:31Speaker 3: So.
- 6:32Speaker 2: Or even now with what we deal with, we've got
- 6:35Speaker 2: multiple pending categories.
- 6:37Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 6:38Speaker 2: We've got pending contingency, pending take back up. I mean,
- 6:43Speaker 2: understandably why the public's a little confused by that and
- 6:46Speaker 2: what exactly that means.
- 6:48Speaker 4: Yeah. You know.
- 6:49Speaker 3: Well, basically pending it's. pending a closing if everything works.
- 6:54Speaker 2: Out right essentially it's got an accepted contract by both
- 6:58Speaker 2: buyer and seller that's all that's all it means right
- 7:02Speaker 2: sold doesn't happen till closing day.
- 7:03Speaker 3: Exactly well and sometimes they just think or they want
- 7:07Speaker 3: to go look at a close or a pending listing
- 7:09Speaker 3: and i mean if everything goes right our odds of
- 7:12Speaker 3: actually getting that property are usually fairly slim so sometimes
- 7:16Speaker 3: you got a way out if it's worth going and
- 7:17Speaker 3: even looking.
- 7:18Speaker 2: At it right right You know, and I mean, there
- 7:21Speaker 2: are times where maybe the buyer is struggling to find
- 7:24Speaker 2: something out in the market and they want to write
- 7:28Speaker 2: an offer as a backup offer in case that first
- 7:30Speaker 2: one doesn't go through. And I mean, it can be good,
- 7:35Speaker 2: but it can also tie you up. You know, if
- 7:37Speaker 2: you see something else that you want to act on quick,
- 7:39Speaker 2: you usually want to make sure your agent's got some
- 7:41Speaker 2: verbiage in there so that they can get your release
- 7:44Speaker 2: from that contract quickly so that you can move forward with.
- 7:47Speaker 4: Another one when it does hit.
- 7:48Speaker 1: Right.
- 7:49Speaker 2: Let's talk about finding an agent. I feel like so
- 7:54Speaker 2: many buyers are still just rush, rush, rush. Like, I
- 7:57Speaker 2: want to get out. I want to go see it.
- 7:58Speaker 2: I'm just going to call the first person.
- 8:00Speaker 4: Or they click a.
- 8:01Speaker 3: Button that they see online and they just get set
- 8:03Speaker 3: up with who they think is a listing agent.
- 8:05Speaker 4: Right, right, right.
- 8:07Speaker 2: It's so important for the public to slow down and
- 8:10Speaker 2: take a breath. You're not going to date the first
- 8:14Speaker 2: person you meet. You want to make sure that you're
- 8:16Speaker 2: not committing to the first agent that contacts you. You
- 8:20Speaker 2: need to make sure that you're interviewing multiple agents.
- 8:22Speaker 3: Because it is kind of a commitment now with the
- 8:24Speaker 3: buyer's agency.
- 8:25Speaker 4: Very much is, yeah.
- 8:26Speaker 1: It really is.
- 8:27Speaker 3: I've had some that I've worked with for well over
- 8:29Speaker 3: a year. I had a buyer that came to me
- 8:32Speaker 3: that it took a year to get us in a
- 8:35Speaker 3: position where he was ready to start looking at houses
- 8:38Speaker 3: with the financing and that. And then Once we started
- 8:42Speaker 3: to look, I mean, it took six months to find one. So,
- 8:44Speaker 3: I mean, it was a year and a half just
- 8:46Speaker 3: until we got him under contract.
- 8:48Speaker 2: Well, and you just brought up a good point. I
- 8:50Speaker 2: think there's a lot of times when a buyer reaches
- 8:54Speaker 2: out to us, they want to go right away. But
- 8:56Speaker 2: just like you said, there's sometimes we need to work
- 8:59Speaker 2: hand in hand with that lender. That's why it's important
- 9:01Speaker 2: to have that local lender so that we can help
- 9:04Speaker 2: guide them through to get them into a strong position
- 9:07Speaker 2: to be a strong buyer later on.
- 9:09Speaker 1: And I do think that, you know, agents should.
- 9:14Speaker 1: Really help the buyer understand the expectations of the whole process.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Because it's not just look online and we can go.
- 9:20Speaker 1: There are steps that you have to go through that
- 9:25Speaker 1: have to be met before you really can even go look.
- 9:28Speaker 3: Well, I mean, yeah, getting pre-approved, doing that buyer's agency
- 9:32Speaker 3: after you choose an agent that you want to commit
- 9:34Speaker 3: to in that agency.
- 9:35Speaker 4: Right.
- 9:37Speaker 3: And then we start, you know, looking online for houses
- 9:41Speaker 3: and figuring out which ones we want to go look at.
- 9:43Speaker 4: Right, right.
- 9:43Speaker 1: And what even meets your needs.
- 9:45Speaker 4: Right. Exactly.
- 9:46Speaker 2: Well, and to make sure that the homes you want
- 9:49Speaker 2: to look at will entertain the type of loan you're
- 9:51Speaker 2: approved for.
- 9:52Speaker 4: That's another one that's.
- 9:53Speaker 2: Really starting to come back into our market, you know,
- 9:57Speaker 2: because not every house will entertain.
- 10:00Speaker 4: All loans out there.
- 10:01Speaker 2: And so it's important to have an agent in your
- 10:03Speaker 2: corner that is looking that stuff up and vetting that
- 10:05Speaker 2: stuff out for you.
- 10:07Speaker 3: Or figuring out, you know, they say that they won't
- 10:09Speaker 3: take an FHA or a VA or USDA loan, but
- 10:13Speaker 3: what's the concern? Why do they think that that one
- 10:15Speaker 3: won't work? You know, maybe that's something that could be
- 10:18Speaker 3: worked through. once they get an offer accepted, then all the,
- 10:21Speaker 3: then all the things start to unfold.
- 10:23Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that unfold.
- 10:26Speaker 3: That's just, it's like the tip of the iceberg. Everybody's like,
- 10:29Speaker 3: oh wait, you know, the going and searching for a
- 10:31Speaker 3: house is supposed to be all the, the work in this.
- 10:35Speaker 3: That just, that just like is opening the floodgates to
- 10:38Speaker 3: the work.
- 10:38Speaker 4: Right, right.
- 10:39Speaker 3: Well, and for them, it just feels like a lot
- 10:41Speaker 3: of waiting around in between this inspection or that.
- 10:44Speaker 2: And Yeah, I usually tell them, you know, next for
- 10:47Speaker 2: the first 10 to 14 days, it's going to feel
- 10:50Speaker 2: like a bunch of moving parts.
- 10:52Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 10:53Speaker 2: And it's going to feel like it goes quiet. And
- 10:55Speaker 2: then before you know it, here's closing day. So once
- 10:58Speaker 2: I tell you we're through the inspection piece, you're in
- 11:01Speaker 2: full on packing mode. But then after we get through
- 11:04Speaker 2: the inspections and our buyers are full on packing, now
- 11:09Speaker 2: we're dealing with the lender. And the title company and
- 11:12Speaker 2: the appraiser. And that's a whole other set of bunch
- 11:17Speaker 2: of moving parts that we deal with on every single transaction.
- 11:21Speaker 3: I feel like there's a lot of hang-ups happen with
- 11:23Speaker 3: that appraisal too.
- 11:25Speaker 2: Yes, there very much can be. Because they can call
- 11:28Speaker 2: out repairs.
- 11:29Speaker 4: They can... Not appraise at the price that we need.
- 11:33Speaker 3: Or if the house isn't insurable for whatever reason, if
- 11:36Speaker 3: you can't get homeowner's insurance on it.
- 11:38Speaker 1: Then they're not going to lend on it. Especially here
- 11:42Speaker 1: in the Midwest with hail.
- 11:44Speaker 3: Right.
- 11:44Speaker 1: Especially if a roof is damaged and needs to be repaired.
- 11:49Speaker 2: Yeah, which we'll be touching on some of that stuff
- 11:51Speaker 2: in a later episode. Some insurance stuff. Even back to appraisals.
- 11:56Speaker 2: When they're out there, they're going to take pictures and
- 11:58Speaker 2: they have to submit all that and a report and
- 12:00Speaker 2: everything to the lender. And it may come back because
- 12:04Speaker 2: when the lender gets it, it's not necessarily the loan officer.
- 12:07Speaker 2: It goes into their underwriting first before the loan officer
- 12:10Speaker 2: sees it. And underwriting can see something in the picture
- 12:14Speaker 2: that an appraiser didn't call out. And now they can say, well,
- 12:17Speaker 2: we want this fixed. So now that adds a whole
- 12:20Speaker 2: other level.
- 12:21Speaker 3: Or they're asking for the inspection if there was one.
- 12:25Speaker 4: There is that potential now.
- 12:27Speaker 3: I had one a few years ago where it was
- 12:31Speaker 3: the underwriting process that got it hung up. And it
- 12:33Speaker 3: was like the underwriter wanted one thing and then we'd
- 12:35Speaker 3: get that squared away. And they wanted something else and
- 12:37Speaker 3: we got that squared away. And it just drug the
- 12:39Speaker 3: whole thing out. I mean, my sellers for that one,
- 12:43Speaker 3: they were under contract to move to a different state
- 12:46Speaker 3: under another, already under contract for a house down there
- 12:49Speaker 3: that they were buying and had to be down there
- 12:51Speaker 3: for closing while the closing here was planned. And obviously
- 12:54Speaker 3: we missed closing and they were already off into their
- 12:58Speaker 3: new state with nowhere to go.
- 12:59Speaker 4: Oh, my goodness.
- 13:00Speaker 3: And so, I mean, and then it didn't close here. Oh, geez.
- 13:03Speaker 3: We like completely fell out of contract. And so they
- 13:07Speaker 3: lost their earnest deposit on their new house. They ended
- 13:09Speaker 3: up having to, like, go find a place to live
- 13:11Speaker 3: while we tried to get it squared away and got
- 13:13Speaker 3: it relisted. They were staying in an Airbnb and had
- 13:15Speaker 3: to find a place for their belongings and ended up
- 13:18Speaker 3: having to do, like, a short-term lease until they could
- 13:20Speaker 3: find a new house after we got their house sold. Wow.
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- 13:51Speaker 3: What are the most common inspection issues that you usually
- 13:54Speaker 3: do run into?
- 13:56Speaker 1: For me specifically, I have more issues with, um, Roofs
- 14:02Speaker 1: and foundations more than anything. And, you know, homes, of course,
- 14:06Speaker 1: need to be structurally sound, but that really does give
- 14:08Speaker 1: a lot of people cold feet. Like if a basement
- 14:10Speaker 1: has just a little bit of moisture, there's a lot
- 14:13Speaker 1: of deterring factors with that because you don't want your
- 14:16Speaker 1: basement to flood.
- 14:17Speaker 3: I see effervescence as like a huge.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Yes. That is a term that we learn.
- 14:23Speaker 3: Well, and so obviously then if you see, you know,
- 14:25Speaker 3: the pattern where... I don't know how to explain it,
- 14:28Speaker 3: where it has dried, the moisture has dried on the wall.
- 14:30Speaker 1: It's almost like crystalline almost.
- 14:32Speaker 3: Yeah, or like crystallized stuff, you know, where it dried.
- 14:38Speaker 3: But I think that that's a common, people get really
- 14:41Speaker 3: worried about that.
- 14:42Speaker 1: They do. They really do. And a lot of these
- 14:45Speaker 1: older basements that aren't finished, you are able to see,
- 14:49Speaker 1: you know, discoloring on the walls. But, you know, a
- 14:52Speaker 1: lot of these basements, they're old, right?
- 14:54Speaker 3: Not only that, but cinder block is porous.
- 14:57Speaker 4: Right, exactly. And we do live in the Midwest. We
- 15:01Speaker 4: do get rain, and it is fairly flat.
- 15:03Speaker 3: Well, and on that.
- 15:04Speaker 1: Council bluffs, a good chunk of council bluffs is in
- 15:08Speaker 1: an old river bottom.
- 15:09Speaker 4: Yes, it is.
- 15:10Speaker 3: Yes, it is.
- 15:10Speaker 1: And a lot of people don't realize that. Yeah, we're
- 15:12Speaker 1: protected by levees now, but back in the day, it
- 15:15Speaker 1: was very sandy soil, and the ground would just move. Right.
- 15:21Speaker 3: So obviously roofs and foundations, they're the biggest deterrent, I think.
- 15:26Speaker 4: Well, I would add sewer lines to that now.
- 15:29Speaker 1: Oh, for sure.
- 15:29Speaker 2: Because we're dealing with a lot of that. And so
- 15:32Speaker 2: sewer scopes are.
- 15:33Speaker 3: Which is why I'm always pushing those sewer scopes because
- 15:36Speaker 3: the sewer, the roof, and the foundation are definitely the
- 15:39Speaker 3: most expensive things to fix, I think.
- 15:40Speaker 4: Right.
- 15:41Speaker 2: And I would say, especially if you're in a house
- 15:44Speaker 2: where you see some older cast pipes inside, you probably
- 15:49Speaker 2: want to be.
- 15:50Speaker 4: Encouraging your buyer to have that sewer scope done.
- 15:53Speaker 3: Especially if that house has been vacant for a while
- 15:55Speaker 3: and it has cast iron pipe because they can corrode shut.
- 15:58Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 15:59Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 15:59Speaker 2: You know, it needs a constant flow of water, you know. And,
- 16:05Speaker 2: you know, another thing you can do is check when
- 16:07Speaker 2: you're walking up to a house, see if there's sewer
- 16:10Speaker 2: cleanouts up usually in the front yard or backyard, depending
- 16:13Speaker 2: which way it exits the house.
- 16:15Speaker 3: And where the main is, yeah.
- 16:16Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
- 16:17Speaker 3: Obviously, if there's clean outs, there's been some work done
- 16:19Speaker 3: at some point.
- 16:20Speaker 4: Right, right.
- 16:21Speaker 2: It at least makes you feel a little better that
- 16:23Speaker 2: something's been done. But I mean, if you're not seeing
- 16:26Speaker 2: those and you're seeing old pipes in the basement. You
- 16:29Speaker 2: want to be asking some questions.
- 16:31Speaker 3: Well, and there's some places that use Orangeburg, too. And
- 16:34Speaker 3: I always see tons of issues with Orangeburg. And then
- 16:37Speaker 3: if you jet Orangeburg.
- 16:39Speaker 4: Yeah, it's done.
- 16:41Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really good way to just completely collapse
- 16:44Speaker 3: your line. So before you call a plumber to jet
- 16:46Speaker 3: your sewer lines, you definitely need to know what it's
- 16:48Speaker 3: made of.
- 16:49Speaker 4: Right, right.
- 16:49Speaker 1: And the only way you can do that really is
- 16:51Speaker 1: with a scope. That's the only way you can figure
- 16:54Speaker 1: that out.
- 16:54Speaker 4: And generally, a good plumber or drain cleaner.
- 16:57Speaker 2: It's going to say, let's camera this first, you know,
- 17:00Speaker 2: before they go doing that.
- 17:02Speaker 3: So back to cast iron pipe then or whatever, drain cleaner,
- 17:06Speaker 3: the stuff that you pour down the drain is a
- 17:09Speaker 3: really good way to eat away your cast iron.
- 17:11Speaker 4: Yes, it is.
- 17:12Speaker 3: And also cause damage to the sewer line.
- 17:14Speaker 4: Yes, it is.
- 17:15Speaker 3: Yeah. You've seen that a bunch of times too.
- 17:17Speaker 4: Right.
- 17:17Speaker 2: I mean, cast iron pipe, its life expectancy was only
- 17:20Speaker 2: 60 years. So all these houses that have it, a
- 17:24Speaker 2: lot of them were built late 50s, early 60s, maybe
- 17:28Speaker 2: even late 60s. They are at the end of their normal,
- 17:32Speaker 2: useful life. But that would be the piece I would
- 17:35Speaker 2: add to inspections.
- 17:36Speaker 3: People will sometimes get hung up on little things where
- 17:39Speaker 3: you can't get the buyer and seller to come to
- 17:41Speaker 3: an agreement on fixing these small things. Because to the buyer,
- 17:44Speaker 3: this small thing is a big deal. But to the seller,
- 17:46Speaker 3: it's not.
- 17:47Speaker 2: It's not a new home. You know, these homes are
- 17:49Speaker 2: old and they're used. So they're not going to be
- 17:52Speaker 2: perfect by any means. There's going to be things. And
- 17:55Speaker 2: so hopefully you can kind of get past some of that.
- 17:57Speaker 1: Yeah. Right.
- 17:58Speaker 3: Well, and I think a lot of that comes down
- 17:59Speaker 3: to just educating the clients too and having, you know,
- 18:02Speaker 3: as far as expectations, I think a lot of them
- 18:04Speaker 3: have different ideas of what should be a certain way.
- 18:07Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 18:09Speaker 3: And again, like with the porous basements and stuff, you know,
- 18:11Speaker 3: not everybody realizes that. And then if you have a
- 18:15Speaker 3: finished basement and you can't see it, then just because
- 18:18Speaker 3: it's a finished basement does not mean it doesn't have
- 18:20Speaker 3: a problem. Right.
- 18:21Speaker 4: Right. Exactly.
- 18:22Speaker 1: I mean, many times an issue is covered up by paint,
- 18:27Speaker 1: you know, and maybe it's one of those things that
- 18:29Speaker 1: the current seller didn't know that there was anything wrong
- 18:33Speaker 1: with it.
- 18:33Speaker 3: Right.
- 18:34Speaker 1: And it's just, it's a slow process. Right. Like these
- 18:37Speaker 1: foundations do move. Like they can.
- 18:40Speaker 3: Or, you know, some of that, you know, moisture has
- 18:43Speaker 3: come in behind the drywall in that basement and now
- 18:45Speaker 3: you have mold.
- 18:46Speaker 4: Yeah. Right.
- 18:47Speaker 1: Right. And you really don't know unless you turn it
- 18:49Speaker 1: all down. Yeah.
- 18:50Speaker 4: Right.
- 18:51Speaker 3: Yeah. The only way you're going to know is if
- 18:52Speaker 3: something happens where you have to start cutting into it. Right.
- 18:54Speaker 4: Right.
- 18:55Speaker 1: Yeah. And that's all with inspections. So what about appraisals?
- 19:00Speaker 1: Like when we come up to that point in the
- 19:04Speaker 1: transaction and appraisal comes back and it's either like too
- 19:07Speaker 1: low or there's things that need to get fixed. Like
- 19:09Speaker 1: anything that you've ran into with that.
- 19:11Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 19:12Speaker 3: Well, sometimes it's the same thing where the buyer is like,
- 19:14Speaker 3: I'm not fixing that property when I don't own it.
- 19:17Speaker 3: And the seller goes, it's been fine. I'm not fixing that.
- 19:20Speaker 3: So then again, nobody can come to an agreement on
- 19:23Speaker 3: who's going to meet those appraisal requirements.
- 19:25Speaker 4: Right. Exactly.
- 19:27Speaker 2: We get some weird. call-outs as far as appraisal repairs.
- 19:31Speaker 2: I had one one time where they literally called it
- 19:34Speaker 2: out that the downspout extension wasn't on. And when we
- 19:39Speaker 2: got the pictures from the appraisal, in the picture, the
- 19:43Speaker 2: downspout extension is literally laying right there on the ground.
- 19:47Speaker 4: It just had to be slid back on. That was it.
- 19:49Speaker 3: In the picture.
- 19:50Speaker 2: And that was the only repair that they called out
- 19:54Speaker 2: on the whole property. And so the seller gets home,
- 19:59Speaker 2: goes over, puts a screw in it. We call the
- 20:02Speaker 2: lender back. The very next morning says, all right, you
- 20:05Speaker 2: can send them back out for the reinspection.
- 20:07Speaker 3: $ 150 for the buyer.
- 20:08Speaker 1: Yep.
- 20:09Speaker 4: Yep.
- 20:10Speaker 3: To pay for that reinspection.
- 20:11Speaker 4: Yep. Awesome. Yeah. That's right up there with the crazy ones.
- 20:17Speaker 1: That's frustrating.
- 20:18Speaker 4: Yes.
- 20:20Speaker 2: When really all that appraiser had to do was just
- 20:22Speaker 2: call me up. If they just made a phone call,
- 20:26Speaker 2: rather than trying to put the separation, just made a
- 20:29Speaker 2: phone call like, hey, this is the only thing I've got.
- 20:33Speaker 2: If you can get this taken care of, shoot me
- 20:34Speaker 2: a picture that it's taken care of. I'll go ahead
- 20:36Speaker 2: and clear it. You know, because there are some appraisers
- 20:39Speaker 2: that will do that. But for whatever reason on this one,
- 20:42Speaker 2: that appraiser did not do that and called it out.
- 20:45Speaker 1: I had a different situation with that with an appraiser
- 20:49Speaker 1: to where I had an estate where they weren't able
- 20:52Speaker 1: to access the attic. And that's what the holdup was.
- 20:56Speaker 1: The contractor had to go view this, take photos so
- 20:59Speaker 1: we could submit it. Crawled up a ladder to take
- 21:02Speaker 1: photos through the window in this attic that had no
- 21:07Speaker 1: access to it in order for us to move forward
- 21:09Speaker 1: with the transaction. And then it got called again for FHA,
- 21:15Speaker 1: same appraisal, to paint the banister on the front porch
- 21:20Speaker 1: because there was just a little bit of chipped paint.
- 21:22Speaker 1: And I'm the one that had to go and I
- 21:24Speaker 1: painted it myself.
- 21:27Speaker 4: There are times that happens.
- 21:29Speaker 2: I mean, you always hope not, but there are times
- 21:34Speaker 2: where we do things just to help keep Keep the
- 21:37Speaker 2: peace and keep everything moving.
- 21:39Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 21:40Speaker 3: I had a listing over the winter where it was
- 21:44Speaker 3: a cast iron pipe in the upstairs bathroom. The house
- 21:47Speaker 3: had been vacant for a while. There was a showing.
- 21:49Speaker 3: I think they might have, like, I don't know if
- 21:51Speaker 3: they flushed the toilet or, like, what happened, but it
- 21:53Speaker 3: leaked through that upstairs bathroom floor into the kitchen.
- 21:56Speaker 4: Oh, no.
- 21:57Speaker 3: And just, I mean, and it was an old house.
- 21:59Speaker 3: Everything's plaster, you know, and you could see where it had, like, gotten...
- 22:03Speaker 3: it was in the, on behind the paint and everything.
- 22:06Speaker 3: And so I had bubbled out the paint and everything.
- 22:08Speaker 3: And it was, so, I mean, I went over there
- 22:10Speaker 3: cause my seller lived two hours away. So I went
- 22:13Speaker 3: over there at 9 PM after I got that phone
- 22:14Speaker 3: call and cleaned it up and took fans over there
- 22:16Speaker 3: and made sure the heat was nice and high and make,
- 22:21Speaker 3: just to make sure.
- 22:22Speaker 4: Right.
- 22:23Speaker 1: Right.
- 22:24Speaker 4: Yeah. Cause I mean, we just, you never know.
- 22:26Speaker 3: Yeah. So my husband got to go help me with that.
- 22:30Speaker 3: You know, sometimes they get, sometimes they get sucked into
- 22:32Speaker 3: these things.
- 22:34Speaker 4: Occasionally.
- 22:36Speaker 2: Or there's sometimes when you're just out, you know, with
- 22:40Speaker 2: your spouse or something, and you get the call and
- 22:42Speaker 2: you're like, oh, no.
- 22:43Speaker 4: And so they're along for the ride. Well, you go
- 22:45Speaker 4: check something out.
- 22:46Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 22:47Speaker 3: Oh, for sure. Oh, I can't. I mean, the number
- 22:49Speaker 3: of signs that my husband has pulled for me.
- 22:52Speaker 4: Especially in the winter.
- 22:56Speaker 3: Yeah. Right. Well, the ground's frozen. Put them in the
- 22:58Speaker 3: ground when the ground is frozen. Right. He's a lot
- 23:01Speaker 3: better at that than I am.
- 23:03Speaker 1: Well, the trick that I learned from Jesse was to
- 23:06Speaker 1: just take a drill out and just drill down into
- 23:08Speaker 1: the ground when it's frozen. Then it goes right in.
- 23:10Speaker 4: Yeah. A drill and a mini sledge. You can get
- 23:14Speaker 4: them in.
- 23:15Speaker 3: I do keep a hammer in the car.
- 23:16Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 23:17Speaker 3: Like the mini sledgehammer.
- 23:18Speaker 4: Yep.
- 23:19Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 23:19Speaker 4: Comes in handy. Yeah. So.
- 23:24Speaker 3: It's definitely not an appraisal issue, but. Right.
- 23:27Speaker 1: But still, it's another thing that we try to do with...
- 23:30Speaker 1: you know, for our clients.
- 23:31Speaker 4: Right. Exactly.
- 23:33Speaker 1: Make it as smooth as possible for them. Right.
- 23:35Speaker 2: It's all the behind the scenes things that we're doing.
- 23:38Speaker 1: Right.
- 23:38Speaker 2: That hopefully they just don't know about. All they know
- 23:42Speaker 2: is things were taken care of and they got to
- 23:44Speaker 2: their closing date because that's all. They've got so many
- 23:47Speaker 2: things going on, so many emotions going on. That's all
- 23:50Speaker 2: ultimately what they want.
- 23:51Speaker 3: Well, like I said, selling the house, sometimes it's really sad.
- 23:55Speaker 3: Sometimes it's hard, you know, and buying is, they've got,
- 23:59Speaker 3: You know, all the plates in the air trying to
- 24:01Speaker 3: get everything situated and get their utilities hooked up and,
- 24:05Speaker 3: you know, get all the things ready to go. Right. So,
- 24:09Speaker 3: you know, behind the scenes, we're making sure that we're
- 24:11Speaker 3: keeping all those deadlines and there's a lot of them.
- 24:15Speaker 1: Well, and sometimes it's even down to reviewing the final
- 24:18Speaker 1: numbers when we close. Reviewing those numbers just so we
- 24:21Speaker 1: can explain what all of these different amounts mean, where
- 24:24Speaker 1: funds are going, where they're coming to, why is there
- 24:27Speaker 1: a second mortgage, which is like an IFA thing, which
- 24:30Speaker 1: maybe we'll go over in a future episode as well.
- 24:32Speaker 4: We could.
- 24:34Speaker 1: There's all these little tidbits on the final document.
- 24:38Speaker 3: And how many times have we caught mistakes on those.
- 24:40Speaker 4: And had to get them corrected?
- 24:41Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 24:42Speaker 2: We're all human, so I understand it, but that's why
- 24:45Speaker 2: it's so good to have another set.
- 24:47Speaker 1: Of eyes on this. Exactly.
- 24:49Speaker 2: A buyer I was working with, and he came up
- 24:51Speaker 2: with a bunch of judgments. And so we're reading through it,
- 24:55Speaker 2: and I'm like, this doesn't sound like my buyer. So
- 24:58Speaker 2: we went back and had him recheck the search. And
- 25:02Speaker 2: on the search, not only was it the same name,
- 25:05Speaker 2: it was even the same middle initial. So on all
- 25:07Speaker 2: these judgments, it had just the middle initial, not the
- 25:10Speaker 2: full middle name.
- 25:12Speaker 3: Oh, no.
- 25:12Speaker 2: So then we went back to birth dates, and it
- 25:15Speaker 2: was the same birth date.
- 25:17Speaker 4: What are the odds of that?
- 25:19Speaker 2: It's the first time in my career I ever got
- 25:22Speaker 2: this deep into it. So it finally went back to
- 25:25Speaker 2: we had to go to Social Security numbers. And that's
- 25:28Speaker 2: where we were finally able to get them all closed.
- 25:31Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 25:31Speaker 4: Because they weren't him.
- 25:33Speaker 1: Wow.
- 25:33Speaker 3: Well, I mean, yeah. So judgments against the property means
- 25:35Speaker 3: that you can't transfer a title and the house cannot
- 25:37Speaker 3: be sold.
- 25:38Speaker 4: Right. Right.
- 25:39Speaker 3: You had not caught that.
- 25:40Speaker 4: Right.
- 25:40Speaker 2: And he was selling one and buying another. So we
- 25:44Speaker 2: had to address it.
- 25:45Speaker 3: We would have had two deals fell through.
- 25:46Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 25:47Speaker 3: Yep.
- 25:47Speaker 4: Exactly right.
- 25:48Speaker 2: And a buyer that's expecting to have a place to
- 25:52Speaker 2: go probably gave notice on a lease or something. And
- 25:56Speaker 2: a seller on the other end were. My clients were
- 25:58Speaker 2: also buying and now they're dealing with a place that
- 26:03Speaker 2: had the chance of coming back on. But because of
- 26:06Speaker 2: the work we do behind the scenes and getting that
- 26:08Speaker 2: stuff cleared up and looking into it and not just
- 26:12Speaker 2: accepting whatever's thrown our way.
- 26:14Speaker 4: So, yeah, interesting story.
- 26:17Speaker 2: So I had one where we were dealing with propane
- 26:21Speaker 2: and had a seller that was adamant that propane They
- 26:25Speaker 2: wanted reimbursed for the propane. I had a buyer that said,
- 26:29Speaker 2: absolutely not. I'm not paying them for their propane. It
- 26:32Speaker 2: should come with the property. We went back to the
- 26:35Speaker 2: property disclosure. It wasn't disclosed on there that the seller
- 26:39Speaker 2: wanted prorated for it.
- 26:41Speaker 4: Or even what the amount was.
- 26:42Speaker 3: I feel like the propane is always missed on those disclosures. Always.
- 26:45Speaker 4: Always. It's the easiest one to miss.
- 26:47Speaker 3: Well, even if it's there, you just don't even think
- 26:49Speaker 3: about it.
- 26:49Speaker 2: Right. So talking to the listing agent, we decided to
- 26:52Speaker 2: meet out at the property. To look at the gauge
- 26:56Speaker 2: on the propane tank, see how much propane are we
- 26:59Speaker 2: even talking about here?
- 27:01Speaker 4: And so we looked at it.
- 27:02Speaker 2: He gets his seller on the phone, finds out what
- 27:05Speaker 2: the company was going to pay her per gallon to
- 27:08Speaker 2: come back out and get it. And we just looked
- 27:11Speaker 2: at each other and said, should we just split it?
- 27:14Speaker 3: How much was it?
- 27:15Speaker 2: It was about $ 300.
- 27:16Speaker 4: Okay.
- 27:18Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 27:19Speaker 4: I mean, but it is what it is.
- 27:22Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 27:22Speaker 2: Either way, the propane stayed. The seller got reimbursed for it.
- 27:28Speaker 2: We got to a closing. Everybody was happy. Now, I
- 27:32Speaker 2: can tell you, since then, I've never forgot propane.
- 27:36Speaker 3: But the fact that no one could come to an
- 27:39Speaker 3: agreement on that, they were both willing to let that
- 27:41Speaker 3: deal fall.
- 27:42Speaker 4: Apart for $ 300. Yep, no question. Yep. $ 300 total. $ 300.
- 27:47Speaker 4: So we split $ 300. Yeah. You know, that's all it was.
- 27:50Speaker 3: But it's the fact that the seller was willing to
- 27:53Speaker 3: let that go. If that had fallen through and that
- 27:56Speaker 3: seller had put that back on the market, just the,
- 27:59Speaker 3: I mean. you always run into the possibility that you're
- 28:01Speaker 3: going to have to do a price reduction to get
- 28:03Speaker 3: it resold outright. And it would have definitely been more
- 28:05Speaker 3: than $ 300.
- 28:06Speaker 2: Way more than $ 300. And a buyer that had, he
- 28:12Speaker 2: was already here. His family was moving down here from
- 28:16Speaker 2: another town.
- 28:16Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 28:17Speaker 4: And I'm sure his earnest.
- 28:18Speaker 3: Was more than $ 300. Oh, yeah.
- 28:20Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 28:22Speaker 3: Almost willing to lose his earnest deposit.
- 28:24Speaker 4: All of the above.
- 28:26Speaker 3: Yep.
- 28:28Speaker 2: So it was an interesting one. But here it was
- 28:31Speaker 2: a few days before closing. It comes up, and this
- 28:35Speaker 2: is what we dealt with. But it's what we do
- 28:38Speaker 2: all the time. This is the behind-the-scenes stuff that generally
- 28:41Speaker 2: the public doesn't have any idea about. They just know
- 28:44Speaker 2: things got worked out.
- 28:46Speaker 4: Right.
- 28:47Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I tell you what, I am really looking
- 28:50Speaker 1: forward to unraveling some more of these stories for future
- 28:54Speaker 1: episodes because there's just so much here that i can
- 28:57Speaker 1: unpack and you know speaking of future episodes we have
- 29:01Speaker 1: one that i know that we're going to do which
- 29:02Speaker 1: i'm excited for which is like a spooky halloween real
- 29:07Speaker 1: estate horror story episode so i'm excited oh my gosh
- 29:11Speaker 1: i can't wait i can't wait there's.
- 29:13Speaker 3: So many things that can right creepy things.
- 29:15Speaker 2: And And there's going to be a multitude of agents
- 29:19Speaker 2: on that one.
- 29:19Speaker 3: Yeah. That one's going to be really fun. So, and then, like,
- 29:22Speaker 3: for our next episode, I don't know, I mean, whoever
- 29:25Speaker 3: has followed our social media for very long, but, you know,
- 29:28Speaker 3: the whole parody video that we did about a common
- 29:32Speaker 3: issue that we see.
- 29:33Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
- 29:35Speaker 3: We're gonna bring back some people that you might recognize
- 29:38Speaker 3: from that to talk to go a little deeper about
- 29:40Speaker 3: that issue yeah yeah that'll be really.
- 29:42Speaker 2: Fun yeah it'll be a good time i would say
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