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Revenge Is A Dish Best Served Three Times (S18E11) · Four Finger Discount (Simpsons Podcast)

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  finger Discount. Ye. Welcome to fourthing, a discount, the podcast where
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  we always take revenge on our contractors. This week we're here to review episode
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  J A b F zero five. It is episode eleven of season eighteen.
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  Revenge is a dish best served three times. I am Dando, I am
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  Elliot, j O'Neill, Wow, what happened to you guy? Sexy all
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  of a sudden? Or sexy year? I should say sexy year sexy somehow
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  both younger rand border? I would say you're border you guys? Yeah?
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  Probably, Well we'll both took our heads in the Shino baller and make embarrassons
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  afterwards, I reckon right now though, guys getting his teeth just all dismantled
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  by some crazy dentist in BALI that's reading it to Barli's. Barley's not Barzer
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  here. Barley is around still, guys, don' worry about that guy is
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  not here. This week're enjoyed, of course by Elliot j O'Neill. You
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  may have heard before on the podcast Fourthing a discount as well as the day
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  w podcast. I do here in the Fourthing of discount network where you do
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  that every single week. But since guys away in Barley get his teeth fixed,
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  we thought who better than to fill the seat than Elliott j O'Neill,
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  So thank you for joining you, sir, No worries and yeah, fresh
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  off my own dental work. I had a crown put in last week.
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  In fact, what is a crown put in? What actually is it?
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  Now? I get told off by Nikola I won't pronounce the action of crown
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  because she's like, it's not crazy because I say crown. Nicolas just opened
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  the door. Can do you hear me? Nicholas heard we are travel and
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  Elliot's wave as well that it so basically when I say words like crown,
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  but I say crown instead of crayon, right, So do you say crayon
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  or crown? I say, I say crown. I'm the worst person to
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  ask. I pronounced things so weird all the time, like every time,
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  like especially letters like the letter B or anything that with an E sound.
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  Sometimes I go bay like and for our ae w Frians. Yeah. Yeah,
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  if I'm talking about the BBC, I'll sometimes say baba, say like
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  or the or the b No, it is the b CC, not the
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  BBC. You said the BBC, right, I was talking about the British
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  Broadcasting Channel or whatever it's called. But yeah, anyway, we're here to
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  talk about our revenge as at dish best so three times not gonna lie listeners.
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  When I said to Alie this is what we're doing, he goes,
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  oh, god z his death. So basically, for anyone who hasn't listened
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  to The Simpsons Index, you've been on the show before, you've explained,
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  but just in case they've listened to this for the first time they've ever heard
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  of your show, what is it executive that you do on the Simpsons Index
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  podcast and why is it that you've already reviewed this episode A couple of times.
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  Well, yeah, over at the Simpsons Index, we used to review
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  three episodes at a time, with each one coming from a different decade.
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  We used to get into like talking about how the show had changed over you
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  know, the three different eras that it was in then when it started.
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  Now it's like ballooned out to four. But yeah, so recently we did
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  catch up and we've reviewed about the first nineteen seasons. But yeah, so
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  now we're just more or less reviewing the newest stuff while still being from the
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  last fifteen years whatever define newer, Like where are you currently at? What
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  are you doing? So we've completed the first nineteen seasons and we're currently catching
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  up on everything from season twenty and after doing them in chronological order or he
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  just no, essentially random order. Like sometimes I'll pick an episode to cater
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  two the guests, because yeah, we have a different guest on every week,
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  and yeah, I'll try to pick an episode that maybe pertains to their
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  interests or something. I like to get a lot of other different podcasters on,
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  Like an episode we got coming out soon, I got Steve from Cinemarcade
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  coming out. It's a video game movie podcast, So there was a recent
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  episode about roadblocks that we reviewed with him, and that was a lot of
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  fun. And I'm forgetting your first question already. Oh why have I reviewed
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  this episode a bunch? So on what? I reviewed this episode with the
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  other Simpsons podcast Worst Episode Ever who exclusively delve into bad Simpsons, and I
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  also reviewed it, yeah, with my regular co host. So yeah,
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  I've already reviewed this episode twice. But you know what, reviewing revenge is
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  a best dish best of three times is worth reviewing three times, So let's
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  go. It's like, it makes sense, right, It's funny how the
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  unified theory of for figure disc and all works out that way. But I'm
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  not gonna lie. I mean, I'm never a huge fan of these trilogy
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  episodes that they seem to sort of start doing in the teen seasons. Never
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  used to do this back in the day, you had your trilogy, you
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  had your sorry Trios of horror. They did. They did do the what
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  was that one where they had the their I want candy shit at the end
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  the spinoff showcase. They did that. Yeah, was there any other trilogy
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  ones in the in like that what the people call the Golden Era? No,
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  because even Bible stories were Season ten, and I think a lot of
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  people will debate if that's classic or not, but I say season ten's kind
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  of in the Golden Year, like it's still it's it's around close enough,
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  I guess, yeah, no, absolutely, And I mean even the next
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  one after that, Simpson's Tall Tales. That's an episode I actually love,
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  I'm gonna be honest, and that's from season twelve, I believe. But
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  yeah, the trilogy episodes did become annualized in the teen's era, and I
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  think it's either this season maybe season seventeen that had two of them. Innute
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  as well. Okay, I just realized this was going to be one of
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  the trilogy ones because I'm never a huge fan of them, and nothing I
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  dislike this one. I just thought there wasn't much to it, and I
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  did. It's funny they made the joke at the end of it how this
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  could have been a Halloween episode, the Batman one. That one totally could
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  have been a Halloween Treos of Horror segment, don't you think. Yeah,
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  I don't really know why it wasn't, or maybe it just didn't make the
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  cut for this year's Treehouse of Horror or something, and then maybe, But
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  Batman Begins was still kind of relevant, I mean relevant pertaining to assist Simpson's
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  turnaround of a parody. But still and they just wanted to get out there,
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  I speculate. But yeah, it came out in two thousand and five,
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  didn't it. So January two thousand and seven is still pretty relevant.
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  Yeah, relevant enough. Yeah, we're probably just on the cusp of Dark
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  Knight coming out. Yeah, it's not really a Batman Begins parody. It's
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  just the Batman story, right, It's just the titles I play on Batman
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  Begins. No, that's and that's part of my problem with this segment as
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  well, is that it doesn't know whether it wants to be like new,
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  serious, gritty Batman or old campy sixties Batman. But we'll get to it.
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  What is your favorite kind of Batman? Oh ah hmm, that's a
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  good like. I just got so much love and affection for the Tim Burton
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  Batman movies obviously, you know, nostalgia and everything. They're the ones I
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  grew up on, especially Batman Returns. I feel like that's the better of
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  the two. See, I grew up in I grew up in the campy
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  ones. A shoemaker. Oh that's good campy, yeah yeah. And I
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  look back now and I'm like, I know these are poorly not poorly made.
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  They're not poorly makers. I've designed to sell fucking toys and shit and
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  that's exactly what they did, right And did they ever some of that one?
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  Long live the days McDonald's had good ship in the happy meals? Right
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  yeah? Right? No, A vivid memory of still having that two face
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  cup. You know, it was my favorite cup when I was d all
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  four, still on my fridge in the back of the garage. I still
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  bust about occasionally. You don't say, oh awesome, I could never get
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  all. That's what I want to do with the nerd Daddy YouTube channel.
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  Excuse I managed to monetize it. And I'm just like, I want to
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  start doing videos focusing on like just cool nostalgia shit like that, like the
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  do you remember the the They had the Flintstones ones as well, all the
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  Flintstones ones, the glass glasses, Oh really, I don't remember those ones.
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  No, do you remember the the space space the NBA big giant cups
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  from macas where you pour the drink into it and it would make the logos
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  of the basketball teams appear. Oh is that right? Well, yeah,
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  nineties days of like color changing and hypercolor T shirts and all that sort of
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  stuff. Yeah, and the nineties logos of the NBA were the best.
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  Anyone says, like everyone loved the Hornet's logo. Well, yeah, I'm
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  not much of a sports guy. I like my sports entertaining, as we
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  know for doing thed w But yeah, I'll take your word for it.
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  The nineties were the best for wrestling, the best for NBA, the best
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  for everything that's for Simpsons, they were the best for a lot of things.
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  Yes, obviously we are putting our old man caps on right now.
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  I complain about that. But to this episode, you said you didn't like
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  it, that you didn't like it, or you're sick of reviewing it.
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  Look, I I'm wondering if I'm going to contradict previous podcasts that I've made
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  about this episode. But I don't think I was gonna interject there. I
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  don't think you can contradict because I feel like your tastes change over time.
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  Yeah, so Guy and I go back and revisit episodes from the first ten
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  seasons that he wasn't around for when we originally did the show, when I
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  did it with Mitch, and my opinions on some episodes completely changed because I've
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  either become married since or had a kid since, and it's just your taste
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  change. It doesn't mean that you're going against what you said before. It's
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  just you're a different person now, so you're watching it differently. Yeah,
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  that's a good point, But I mean also having said that, I think
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  I reviewed these episodes like two and three years ago, so I don't know
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  how much has changed. But look, I think maybe on this viewing,
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  I was a little bit more forgiving of it. I guess I knew what
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  I was in for and what I was my expectations were sort of all already
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  sort of at a set level, but I still came away from it feeling
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  flat, and you know, look, best you can hope for in this
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  sort of like there's a handful of good jokes, but ultimately I just sort
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  of felt like, what was the point of that? And I feel like
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  even the Simpsons were asking themselves at several points in this episode, what was
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  the point of that? And Yeah, if the show itself is asking that,
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  yeah, then you as the audience are like well, you know,
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  fuck me. I guess that's usually worry. Can we swear on the show?
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  I keep forgetting you can see whatever you want except for the sea bumb
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  We don't like the sea bomb in this show. Ah, that's too crass
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  that This is the thing. I quite often come out of these trilogy episodes
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  like what you're just saying there where it's just kind of thinking of it's kind
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  of the thought of, well, what was the point of watching this?
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  Like, you know the episodes I say, Cannon, they're not really canon
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  anymore. They're all in a vacuum. It's just you know, entertain me
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  for twenty two minutes. That's sort of mentality ethic. Was I entertained?
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  You can't really worry about cottonnuity anymore. I mean when I went to dinner
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  with Matt, he was just like for cottonuity. He went on this ten
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  minute spielbo why cottnuwity doesn't matter? And I'm like, okay, so I
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  will never bring that weight up again every in your presents, But so continuity
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  doesn't really matter anyone. Sometimes I just can't help myself, Like, for
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  example, last week on the show, you had Millhouse's parents with Millhouse together
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  again. I was like, hang on, So they got back together in
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  a last season, but there's been no mention of it since the last time
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  we saw them. She found Marge's bra in her room and accused Kirk of
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  cheating, and then that was it. And I was like, there was
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  no resolution to that story, but they're still together. And then the big
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  one for me that's really annoyed me in recent times is how Bart found Nelson's
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  dad. And I loved how Nelson's dad returned and it was like, okay,
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  cool, a new direction for the Nelson character, you know. And
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  then there's been no mention of his father since it's back to him living alone
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  with his single strip of mother, and I'm just like, how do you
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  bring in a character like that and changed the felt like the landscape of the
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  character like a new direction. He's in a loving family now, and then
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  you just never mentioned it again. I'm like, what is this now?
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  That's the thing with the whole continuity argument, and I get and I do
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  sympathize with the Simpsons writers and whatever, because you still have to write a
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  show that feels relevant to the time and whatever, and doing that uticulturally things
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  you do have to kind of ignore the continuity of earlier episodes. But it's
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  also that thing where they're trying to have it both ways, right, like
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  continuity it doesn't matter until it does. That's the sort of philosophy. And
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  you know, and like, look, these trilogy episodes, I do give
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  a little bit more leeway because you know, they like the Treehouse of Horror,
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  they're just a bit of fantasy. Let's see the Simpsons, cous players,
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  some other characters, and how do we simpsonsize this story? And yeah,
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  I guess that's my main problem with these ones is that aside from the
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  Count of Monte Cristo, they really didn't for the other two, Like it
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  wasn't a solid idea for either of them, I don't think, And even
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  the Count of Monte Cristo one, I think I spent too much time with
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  stupid, pointless jokes and not enough time sort of honoring that story. Really,
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  I think a lot of the time too with these trilogy ones, and
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  that if you don't understand the source material, you don't get the gagsy and
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  they just fall flat. You don't know the story, the Monte Cristo story,
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  then you'd be like, what is going on here, Like, as
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  a kid, I'm watch just going what is this? What is this shit?
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  Yeah? Well, yeah, That's where I embarrassingly admit as well that
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  even reviewing this for a third time on a podcast, I still haven't gone
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  and read the book, seen any screen adaptations of this at all. I
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  still have no real familiarity with the Monte Cristo story. What about that.
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  You've seen Revenge of the Nerds, right, the films? Yeah, that
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  has absolutely nothing to do with what happened here though, and probably better because
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  of that. That movie does not hold up from a comedy perspective or just
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  from a what's acceptable today for women's standards. I think it just failed on
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  all fronts. Like I my ex girlfriend at the time, who was like,
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  this is my favorite childhood movie. Yeah, let's watch it. We
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  were both like, oh, okay, that just happened, you know.
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  Yeah, I don't know. I haven't got back and visit for a long
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  time. I remember joining them as a kid. I didn't mind the second
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  segment though, I think overall, I think I enjoyed Revenge of the Geeks
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  the most. But butman beginns wasn't too bad either. I'm willing to except
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  that you didn't like them. But I liked the idea of Millhouse having the
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  bully arm that the what was it? What was the actual name for it?
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  They had it, they wrote it down somewhere. God, that should
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  be in a trivia, shouldn't it the get back a ratura. It was
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  a get back of something, wasn't it? Yeah, get back in Aida?
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  Yeah? I like that. And again this also felt like it could
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  have been a trius of horror story to an extent if it was more absolutely,
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  if it was like the way he was getting back at the people was
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  resulting in them being killed or something. You know, Yeah, I guess
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  it's maybe it's the problem of the whole three episode, three segment story format
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  thing is that I don't think this segment or this idea got enough time to
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  to flesh out and make that turn feel justified. It was just like,
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  at least it goes, oh, you fix the problem, and then Millhouse
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  is like, I'm now mad with power. It just it turned on a
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  dime, and like it really just felt like we were going through the motions
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  on that one a bit too much. Like I think I agree, I
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  think it's like probably joke wise the strongest. I guess I don't know.
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  It was really short though, Like I think it only got like five minutes
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  or something. I did like the puns in Batman begins. Yeah, the
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  serpent and whatnot. That's the that's the Batman. I like the campiness.
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  You know, I'm all about campy Batman. I'm I've said this time and
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  time ago on the podcast. People are sick of hearing me say. I'm
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  just I'm done with dark Batman. I'm just that it was. It was
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  great for the trilogy, but every Batman since has just tried to copy the
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  formula, and every superhero film in general has tried to copy that formula,
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  especially in DC. And I'm just like, ough, can we just go
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  back to having fun again? Why doesn't Batman dance anymore? Yeah, Jesus
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  Christ, Look, it's nothing superhero like. The DC films aren't fun.
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  No, what do you think of the Robert Pattinson Batman? Though? The
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  Matt Reeves one I got halfway through and fell asleep. You don't say,
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  oh, I really liked that one, Like, although I watched it on
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  a plane, and I feel like when you're on a plane, your tolerance
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  of crap is goes a lot higher, so I'm beling to give it that.
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  But yeah, not that it was bad. I think maybe it was
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  just tig because you know when you're when you're a daddy, you and you
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  get time to watch movies late at night, so I'm usually half asleep,
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  so I try to watch the episodes now when I'm going to do reviews once
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  I've taking the kids a day. Yeah, fresh in the morning. I'm
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  feeling cherry ripe because I used to watch them at night and next day I
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  was like, worst episode ever. And then I'd like, rewatch it that
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  afternoon and go not so much the worst episode ever. Yeah, it's funny
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  how that. Yeah, the time of day couldn't impact such a thing,
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  but it really can. Yeah, that's why Guy like enjoy I said it
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  Guy, because Guy was getting just like this was terrible. This was terrible.
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  I was like, when did you watch this? He's like, like
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  eleven o'clock last night. I'm like, dude, don't watch it before you
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  get to bed, Like you're too tired and grumpy. You're an old man.
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  No, that's it. And I mean in the early days of the
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  podcast before twenty twenty, where the thing happened, like we used to always
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  watch it together in a group, and because, like especially with comedies,
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  I find that people are more inclined to actually laugh when they're in a group
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  of people, And I felt like watching the episodes like that gave especially the
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  newer ones, the best chance possible, because yeah, if you're just watching
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  Yeah, the New Ones by yourself, it's late at No, you're just
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  cramming before the podcast tomorrow. Yeah, you're likely to be in a bad
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  mood. But yeah's have a couple of friends over poor some nice soda pop
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  and yeah, have some popcorn. It's a yeah, it's a better time.
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  But having said that, some of the episodes still can put you in
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  a bad mood, even with all the best circumstances. I've only had two
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  or three so far that made me actually angry, And obviously this is a
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  podcast be well away because I tore them to shreds. Do you think,
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  well, do you think maybe the way you did your show back in the
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  original run, with the three episodes like the Golden Ear more middle tier than
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  Lady Seasons? Do you think doing it like that gave the teen era and
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  the latter ones less of a chance of you enjoying them because you had a
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  direct comparison to an older episode, so you're comparing it to the best of
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  the best. Because I feel like, because we've been doing them in chronological
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  order, we're reviewing all these episodes together like the sort of the same season
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  altogether. I don't think they come across as bad. But if I was
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  backing them up with say, Homer the Heretic and the this one, I'd
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  be like, oh my god, why can't I be more like this?
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  So do you think because you did it like that, you dislike these ones
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  more because you were sort of comparing them as opposed to just watching them all
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  watching season eighteen in a vacuum. Yeah, well, look for the first
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  twenty episode, sorry for the first twenty episodes of the podcast, we were
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  reviewing them Classic Teens, new and we found that our energy levels, which
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  are so bad at the end of the night because like it's long process recording
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  the podcast like that, and then yeah, we were tired. We were
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  kind of over it by the time that the hd ERA episode would roll around.
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  So yeah, very early on we made the decision, Okay, we've
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  got to start with the new ones and end good, because yeah, it
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  would always be like that, we'd be bitching about the new one, especially
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  in comparison to the fucking excellent episode that we watched at the start of the
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  evening. So yeah, we started, did you watch watch one review it,
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  watch one review it, watch one review it. Okay, so you
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  didn't watch them all beforehand then review them, Okay, I see. Yeah.
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  Yeah, because as well, like with the HD and teens, like
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  people generally have more familiar with the teens, but like it would have a
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  thing that if we did watch them in a cluster and then review them,
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  that like we'd conflate and like think some things were from an episode and they
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  were actually from a different one. So yeah, we had to separate them
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  as well. Like, and I think that's the beauty with all these Simpsons
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  podcasts is like we've all each got our different methodology of doing things and like
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  reviewing them. And this is just the approach that I wanted to take,
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  is to be able to sort of directly compare. Is like not coming in
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  on the foot of like New Simpsons is bad or anything. It's just like,
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  okay, what's different about it? And like we having the three episodes
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  as a way to directly compare and starting with the new one like was really
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  helpful in that way because we'd be able to give the new ones a lot
• 20:21
  more credit as well, and like yeah not like not just bitch out it
• 20:27
  instantly, and we'd have a good starting place with the HD one to be
• 20:32
  able to go, yeah, nothing's right with me, and then like try
• 20:36
  to figure out out and then by the time we get to the classic it's
• 20:37
  like, oh, I've just it's just occurred to me, what's different here
• 20:41
  because we've watched the classic era one. Yeah, my favorite what'll be your
• 20:47
  favorite moments from the episode, Davis, mister, Ah, my favorite moments?
• 20:53
  My favorite moments. Look, I think yeah, coming from the the
• 21:00
  Millhouse for Revenge, I like I loved the get back and eight to all
• 21:03
  the different settings that it had, wasn't it. Yeah? Yeah? And
• 21:07
  I thought that was you know, we talk about the comedy rule of three,
• 21:11
  and you know, all the different settings that this had. This was
• 21:12
  like a comedy rule of fifteen or something like that. Like, I really
• 21:17
  liked the escalation on the jokes where it started out with your standard school yard
• 21:19
  bullying stuff, wedge purple purple noogies, pink bellies, but then to progress
• 21:26
  wet Willie, dry Willie, and go all the way to kidney stoning,
• 21:30
  nasty Jackson and genital hospital. I am glad I never got a genital hospital
• 21:33
  as a kid. I was gonna say, how many of the ease you
• 21:36
  think you actually had done to you? Or were you the bully? Oh
• 21:40
  no, I was the youngest of three boys. I definitely had everything before
• 21:42
  kidney stoning. I wasn't necessarily bullied. I wasn't bullied physically. I was
• 21:51
  bullied mentally because I was like the fat it at school. So I was
• 21:52
  just all right. I was just like I've said on I was referred to
• 21:56
  as titties all the time. Yeah, many of per pulling uple in my
• 22:00
  time as well. Yeah, yeah, I know all too well. I
• 22:03
  enjoyed the French snare. Yeah. So I go back and forth on the
• 22:11
  French jokes in this one because they're so like surface level, but they are
• 22:15
  kind of funny, like especially if you do have a basic knowledge of French
• 22:18
  language, like in the prison. Instead of going ooh la la Homer guys
• 22:23
  uder the yeah, and that's just caught me off. God damn, that's
• 22:27
  good. But the snare like it's the most basic of stereotypes. But that's
• 22:33
  what the show is, you know, And I think it's the kind of
• 22:36
  thing that even French people just have to laugh at, right, you could
• 22:37
  have a sense of humor about these kind of things. But it reminds me
• 22:40
  what was the It was a trilogy of error where they go she goes to
• 22:45
  the French school, yeah, and they all like laugh and then they go
• 22:48
  no, no, no. He's like, oh yeah. I also enjoyed
• 22:55
  Homer saying how deep is this tunnel and he's fall straight at the wall.
• 22:59
  Yeah, birds spent thirty years digging this tunnel. It's like a brick deep.
• 23:02
  Yeah. But then again the extended falling joke where Home is falling for
• 23:07
  ages and then when he crawls back up the tower via the river as well,
• 23:11
  and then just like immediately drops straight back in, and then they do
• 23:15
  that a couple of times, and then Homer just goes, so, how's
• 23:18
  it going, And then Burns is like, oh, like that one to
• 23:22
  me was just ah, you really just I just felt like it was just
• 23:27
  yeah, to use a term for a worst episode. Ever, this is
• 23:32
  like extra beat alarm, where yeah, you had the joke the good falling,
• 23:34
  Like, oh, that was a surprise, didn't see that coming,
• 23:37
  and then you just dragged it out so long. It reminds me kind of
• 23:41
  these Home has been known in the past to repeatedly make the same mistake over
• 23:45
  and over again. Yeah that's true. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe
• 23:48
  it's just a taste thing, but yeah, this, yeah, I did
• 23:52
  not think this was I was trying to remember a French thing, Bond.
• 23:55
  This was not Bond. I also really enjoyed the Diddler. I thought,
• 24:00
  really, I thought the Diddler was such a funny name. It's like I
• 24:06
  was, like, this is worth it just for the segment of lanes.
• 24:07
  If I come up with the word the didler, we have to write a
• 24:08
  segment around the diddler. Jesus like, because there isn't diddler like a word
• 24:14
  for a pedophile. But it's a it's a joke, yeah, I know.
• 24:18
  But like, especially with Flanders and I know the connection with religion and
• 24:22
  everything. It was just one of those color tug sort of jokes for me.
• 24:26
  Oh but it's one of those jokes where I think it's perfect for Simpsons
• 24:30
  because it flies under the radar for kids. But as an you're like,
• 24:33
  fuck, I you say that into a kids show. Yeah, that was
• 24:37
  very surprising. But another one that it's like blink and you'll miss it.
• 24:40
  You probably would have missed it, but here we are reviewing and taking down
• 24:45
  scrupulous note taking. Yeah, but I was a kid watching this one.
• 24:48
  I just thought the Diddler was a funny name because as a kid, I
• 24:51
  think it's just the Flanders version of the Riddler. Yeah, so he said
• 24:55
  faced value. Yeah, like it's very cleverly put put together with the pieces
• 25:00
  like that, but it is just one that makes me I don't want to
• 25:02
  think of Flanders in that way. Oh well it's a super villain, yeah
• 25:07
  I suppose. Yeah, there we go, he's meant to be the villain.
• 25:10
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• 26:42
  O'Neil, let's get into some trivia questions. Oh okay, uh, what
• 26:48
  are the four satellite radio stations that the family want to listen to? I've
• 26:52
  got leases because I'm My first question was Chill Thunder I'm pretty sure how it
• 26:56
  puts on chill Thunder White? Is that right? Yep? There we go.
• 26:57
  We got two other four. I don't know the other two. What
• 27:00
  were they? Cool Waves and Neon Breeze. Neon Breeze. So this is
• 27:04
  kind of nostalgic in the sense that actually, no, we'll get to all
• 27:07
  that when they do the full in death review. All right, So my
• 27:10
  next question for you would be what was the worst torture of all that Carl
• 27:14
  mentions that. Carl mentions, well, the worst of all except except for
• 27:19
  and then he says something else. Yeah, well, the worst torture of
• 27:22
  all is not knowing and the rat helmet, the rat helmets, yes,
• 27:26
  and now going to good night sleep. You've got a nine am rat helmet.
• 27:30
  Sometimes you read things and it's like the way they torture people in medieval
• 27:33
  time. You're like, people did this to people? What the oh?
• 27:37
  Yeah no? Growing up, you know one of my favorite bands, Iron
• 27:41
  Maiden, It's like, what is an Iron Maiden? Oh? God?
• 27:44
  Yeah, not good? Oh? What were they seeing at the opera house?
• 27:49
  In Bartman begins What were they seeing? Ah, it's right there?
• 27:56
  Not what is it? Trick question that didn't say just I remember this.
• 28:00
  I'm thinking of the scene where they're walking out of the Opperao they say that
• 28:03
  not many kids have a parents that can afford them to take them to the
• 28:07
  opera every single night. My final question for you will be actually, ah,
• 28:12
  this is actually I put in instead of putting the trivia, put this
• 28:15
  in my trivia sort of should have been my favorite moments I enjoyed the line
• 28:18
  of Millhouse saying having a weapon at school has made things awesome. Yeah.
• 28:25
  Yeah, that was one where it was like, yeah, Simpson's making a
• 28:27
  joke on society. That was okay, Yeah that was good. But yeah,
• 28:32
  my last tribute actually is also pertaining to Millhouse and that segment. Why
• 28:37
  was he the one who was deemed qualified to wield the get back in eighta?
• 28:42
  Um? What did he do that qualified him most for it? Did
• 28:45
  he have like coordination or something? Yeah, they said all it needs is
• 28:49
  a basic level of coordination and all the odes wan is that the answer?
• 28:55
  No, Millhouse said is a judgling care Yeah, juggle at camp. I
• 29:00
  was like, I'm like, like that, there's something now I'm missing,
• 29:03
  something like a toup of your face. Yeah. I do love this joke
• 29:07
  because it doesn't he didn't juggle at all or say he was good at juggling.
• 29:10
  He just said he took it at camp. Like there was no skills
• 29:14
  proven demonstrably. It's just I took juggling at camp. Did you ever go
• 29:18
  to a camp, like a themed camp, not school camp, just a
• 29:22
  theme camp, like juggling camp or something like that. No, not really,
• 29:26
  I was just the kind of kid that in my spare time wanted to
• 29:30
  be in front of the TV with video games or with friends in with video
• 29:33
  games and sort of stuff like that. I wasn't never inclined for sort of
• 29:37
  scouts or any of those like extracurricular camping activities. Either I was a home
• 29:42
  kid. I just loved being home, or I had like one or two
• 29:45
  free friend's house where like they were like my safe spaces, but like anywhere
• 29:48
  else I felt out of my comfort zone. I'd have like panic attacks.
• 29:52
  I couldn't even do school camps, man, I'd have like panic attacks.
• 29:53
  I just couldn't go to them. I just have a fear like sleeping out
• 29:56
  at a place I wasn't comfortable with, but like they had like two or
• 29:59
  three friends, and like my NaN's place in like one of my uncle's places.
• 30:02
  Anywhere else, No no deal. Yeah. Wow, Like I had
• 30:06
  a bit of that early on in my childhood, and like my family still
• 30:10
  make fun of me and like quoted off and it's almost a meme in our
• 30:12
  household to go when I was I don't know, I think I was only
• 30:15
  a four or something, but I just started crying and I was like I
• 30:18
  want to go back to Elliott's house, and I'd still like quote in my
• 30:22
  family, I wet the bed till I was like twelve, So I think
• 30:27
  that played a partner as well. I was like the fear of wetting the
• 30:30
  bed at someone else's house. Yeah, sure, I've imagine being that kid
• 30:33
  had pissed a bed at like a fucking Grade five slumber party. Yeah,
• 30:37
  there's worse thing to be called. I'm starting to appreciate my family now.
• 30:41
  Won't forget my brother's for all the purple nurples and nasty Jackson's. But still,
• 30:45
  I mean, at least as Billy Madison taughtoise, you're not cool unless
• 30:48
  you peat your parts. Yeah, that's it. That's it, all right.
• 30:52
  So the original air date of Revenge is a Dish Best Sir three Times
• 30:56
  was January twenty eighth, two thousand and seven. It was written by A.
• 31:00
  H. Cohen and directed by Michael Polsino. There was no chalk gag,
• 31:03
  but there was a couch gag. It's where the Simpsons are infants who
• 31:06
  crawled to the couch whilst Twinker Twink a Little Stars playing in the background.
• 31:08
  After reaching the couch, they grew up to their normal ages, except Maggie
• 31:12
  just remains a baby as per usual. So the episode kicks off with the
• 31:15
  family apparently they're driving to the airport. I don't remember hearing Homer say that,
• 31:19
  but apparently he did. Yeah. Well that at the end he goes
• 31:23
  like, we may have missed out flight to Hawaii. Yeah, that should
• 31:26
  have been a trivia question, yeah, because it was like on the on
• 31:30
  the wiki page here it says Miami. Oh really, I wrote Hawaii.
• 31:34
  It's so confusing, yeah, saying family vacation. They're going on a family
• 31:40
  drive, you know, with the satellite radio. Yeah. But as I
• 31:42
  was saying earlier, this was kind of like nostalgia because remember when satellite radio
• 31:45
  was just sort of coming to the into the fold and it's like you could
• 31:48
  listen to like a themed channel. It's like, WHOA, so cool man.
• 31:55
  No. One of my big things for that was the introduction of double
• 31:57
  J. And it's like, yes, finally triple J for me. Yeah,
• 32:01
  old person And now even that it's just like the double J's like we
• 32:07
  need something older version of that for me. Now. Yeah, we need
• 32:09
  to go to J and then go to No J and then yeah, the
• 32:14
  sing the songs that were on Double J. I saw there's those songs that
• 32:16
  were originally on Triple J when Double J started are now in Double J,
• 32:20
  and Double J's pushed out the songs that I liked. But I haven't listened
• 32:23
  to the radio in so long, man. I listened, Oh, I
• 32:28
  like my sport so like I listened to SEM, which is like the local
• 32:30
  Melbourne sports radio station. So when the footy season's on what we call AFL,
• 32:35
  you your footy in Sydney's NRL. But you know, when the footy
• 32:37
  season's on that or quick it or whatever, just more talk back stuff.
• 32:42
  But I never listened to music on the radio anymore. I'm mostly either podcasts
• 32:45
  or talk back radio. Yeah, I've found, yeah that I don't really
• 32:51
  I've never really been a fan of radio anyway, because I get pretty frustrated,
• 32:55
  Like I'm a big music fan, and I just sort of get frustrated
• 32:59
  at the idea of hearing the same sort of songs like more than ten times,
• 33:02
  like in a small space of time. And I generally like to listen
• 33:06
  to whole albums anyway, just as my music tastes. And yeah, certainly
• 33:12
  as it's been easy to connect devices to my car, which is where I
• 33:15
  would have done most of my radio listening. Yeah. Through that time,
• 33:20
  I've gotten more into podcasts, which is still funny to my dad, who
• 33:22
  was like a lifelong talkback radio fan and as a kid, I'd be like,
• 33:27
  did we listen to this shit? Now I'm making podcasts, you know,
• 33:30
  which is essentially Elliott he wants to get clean about the clouds fully fully.
• 33:37
  Uh. But yeah, so like even sometimes I'll chuck on the radio
• 33:42
  and then just quickly switch back to yeah, Spotify or my podcast at because
• 33:45
  yeah, that's what I do most of my listening on. Anyway, I
• 33:49
  just I sort of just get frustrated with the radio format anyway. Yeah.
• 33:52
  Well see, so I started off in radio and I very quickly realized this
• 33:55
  is not for me. You know, basically with Australian radio, you have
• 34:00
  to conform to a certain style, a certain sound of voice. They all
• 34:05
  talk like this. They're trying to Hamish and Andy. It's like, we're
• 34:08
  so excited to be here, and I'm like, you're not really excited like
• 34:12
  once you're working radio, Like, oh, these guys aren't getting paid much
• 34:15
  at all. They don't actually like anything they're saying. It's all bullshit.
• 34:17
  They're not actually anything like their personalities. But I never forget Do you know
• 34:22
  Eddie McGuire, he's a big Yeah, yes, you know ed McGuire.
• 34:24
  Right, I'll never forget right. I met him when I was about twelve,
• 34:27
  and it's a photo of me with Eddie. He was doing his speech
• 34:29
  just like Q and a thing at my and my mum's work when she was
• 34:31
  working here in Geelong at the place called Buckley's. And I remember he said
• 34:35
  to me. I said to him, how do you get a job in
• 34:37
  radio? I remember saying this, man. I remember he said to me,
• 34:39
  he said, buddy, it's not worth getting a job in radio unless
• 34:43
  you're somebody outside of radio, otherwise you're never making any money. And I
• 34:46
  was like, how fucking right was he? Yeah, that's brutal and true.
• 34:51
  He said some wrong things in the past, but you can quote him
• 34:53
  on that one. That's painfully accurate. Yes, if you're not a TV
• 34:57
  personality, don't even bother with radio. Yeah, no, because it's weird
• 35:01
  because like I see things like Hughsey has one of the biggest radio shows,
• 35:05
  and it's like, surely you're making enough money, dude, why are you
• 35:08
  hogging the airwaves from Yeah, another local talent who could probably use the push.
• 35:13
  But it's just like no, because no one had listened to the radio
• 35:15
  for hughs He wasn't on it, you know. Is he still one of
• 35:19
  the biggest radio shows US. I wouldn't have a clue. Like I said,
• 35:22
  don't listen to a lot of radio thinking. I am going off billboards
• 35:24
  that I've seen in the past. I've never got the whole Husy thing.
• 35:30
  You know, he's very successful what he does, but we quite often I'm
• 35:32
  making fun of Hughsey on this show here for oh, one of Australia's premier
• 35:38
  entertainers. You know. It started with the Snakes Alive bit and multimillions were
• 35:43
  made off the back of that. Have you seen guy got me onto this
• 35:47
  quick little side. We'll get back to the episode in a second. But
• 35:51
  the meme of someone holding out three packets of the back of cigarettes that look
• 35:53
  like Husy. So I am googling this, immediately googles Hughsey cigarette packet meme.
• 36:00
  Oh my god, it's true. So yeah, yeah, it's the
• 36:05
  two like if you if you're aware of cigarette packets anyway, Yeah, it's
• 36:08
  the two like smoking causes blindness, and then one of the having a hard
• 36:15
  time looking at this and talking at the same time, and the smoking fox
• 36:17
  with your teeth sing, and yeah, that is it's so weird, Like
• 36:23
  yeah, if you hagle it as well, do you think of that?
• 36:29
  Just I'm surprised anyone had three packets of cigarettes to look at it. It's
• 36:32
  like, yeah, I haven't smoked in almost a decade now. My brothers
• 36:36
  asked me to pick up some packets when I was going to hang out with
• 36:38
  them a couple of weeks ago. It was like, yeah, just three
• 36:40
  packets. Yeah, no worries it. It's like one hundred and fifty dollars.
• 36:45
  Yeah, my uncle's recently quit smoking, right, my uncle and his
• 36:50
  partner and it was about three years ago and like a year they saved like
• 36:53
  forty to fifty grand Yeah, it's mental, right, just yeah, like
• 37:01
  just long going of the days when they were like because I remember when I
• 37:05
  was first turning eighteen, first started going to the pubs, it was like
• 37:07
  that was then cigarettes were like jumping into the double digits dollars and now,
• 37:13
  like I know, it's not the same for a lot of your international listeners
• 37:16
  that cigarettes haven't got the tax like that Australians have. But the shit,
• 37:22
  I don't know. Maybe it's a good thing, but yeah, one hundred
• 37:23
  percent is a good thing. I mean, I've never smoked in my life.
• 37:27
  Apparently Nicholas just smoked when she drank, but yeah, I just I
• 37:30
  don't know. I've see people smoking down I'm like, still doing that,
• 37:34
  huh cool. Yeah, I feel smoke. It's weird listeners like who you
• 37:37
  are in Australia. Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like it's hard to
• 37:40
  find somebody smoking now. It's like we hired them in a corner somewhere.
• 37:45
  Absolutely. No. I was at the markets the other day and this old
• 37:47
  couple started lighting. A couple up and like a couple of parents like walked
• 37:52
  up to them immediately like what are you doing? There's children around here.
• 37:55
  Yeah, And I think that's the right mentality. We should be like what
• 38:00
  are you doing? Like that's fine if you want to do it so bit,
• 38:02
  but don't do it near me. Yeah. And then yeah, vapes
• 38:06
  briefently were like, oh, it's not cigarettes, and then they found out
• 38:08
  yes, the second hand vape is just as bad. So and you go
• 38:13
  off off into the dark corner with the smokers. Yeah, and we've banned
• 38:15
  you as well. Yeah. But yeah, getting back to two chill funder
• 38:22
  Light. Yeah, so I don't know how we got to all that conversation
• 38:25
  after just talking about I was like commercials and shit on radio. Yeah.
• 38:30
  But but basically the rich textan cuts off the Simpsons, Homer gets really angry,
• 38:34
  we get a really lame joke about the war in Iraq. No,
• 38:37
  revenge doesn't get anybody anywhere. Why are the US still in Iraq? I'm
• 38:40
  like, oh God, are we still talking about this? Okay? Yeah,
• 38:44
  and then Marge tells the first Revenge story and I was like, oh,
• 38:46
  it's one of these ones. It was just such a really contrived setup
• 38:52
  as well as like you know, Homer, revenge doesn't work out well for
• 38:54
  everybody. How about this story? It's like, here we go. It
• 38:59
  kind of from me of you know, this wasn't a trilogy story, but
• 39:02
  as a trilogy concept. It was when they did the clip show with the
• 39:06
  love stories, you remember, oh yeah yeah, and they said all just
• 39:09
  sort of sitting in around the kitchen table telling these really contrived remember when this
• 39:14
  happened? Yeah, I mean, what would you rather this or a clip
• 39:17
  show. At least I didn't do clip shows anymore. Nah, there's one
• 39:21
  hundred percent. It's funny, like because on the Simpsons Index, despite what
• 39:24
  we were saying, I was saying before, we do rank the episodes and
• 39:27
  sort of try build a guide of like watching the Simpsons and you know,
• 39:30
  general sort of recommendations and all that sort of thing. But yeah, averaging
• 39:34
  out all of our scores, season six would have been our top ranked season
• 39:37
  if it wasn't for that episode. That episode we hated so much that it
• 39:42
  put it down into third place under five and seven really seven and five.
• 39:45
  Reviewing it in twenty twenty three, though, you've got to give it some
• 39:49
  slap because this is back in the day when clip shows were a thing.
• 39:52
  Did i't do clip shows anymore? But like, even like Friends was the
• 39:55
  biggest show on television that was still doing clip shows, you know, y
• 40:00
  right. Yeah. I revisited Malcolm in the Middle not too long ago as
• 40:02
  well, and still surprised because, yeah, that's like a relatively late sitcom,
• 40:07
  you know, no camped laughter and all that, and it was like,
• 40:08
  yeah, that still had four like clip shows in it. That's odd.
• 40:10
  Yeah, Yeah, clip shows are not a thing. Anymore. But
• 40:14
  I guess I can see why you would find it annoying now in twenty twenty
• 40:17
  three, But in nineteen ninety four or five, whenever that episode air lot
• 40:22
  season six, it probably wouldn't have been seen as annoying as what we would
• 40:25
  see it as now. Yeah, not as bad, And certainly with the
• 40:29
  way we consume television and you know, and repeats and sort of things like
• 40:32
  that, I guess our main problem with that one was that it was just
• 40:36
  telling truncated versions of these episodes and like cutting out some of the best material
• 40:40
  out of them, whereas like even something like gump Rost like it did a
• 40:45
  bit more with the setup and connective tissue like hated gump Roast hated it.
• 40:51
  Yeah, oh no not. I'm only defending that part of it. I'm
• 40:53
  not defending the actual episode. And it's like there is a good reason why
• 40:57
  that is. The last clip show was written by Dan Castlen, Is that
• 41:01
  right, that one? Yeah? Yeah, him and Deabla Custa. Yeah.
• 41:05
  They put their names on a few episodes, yeah, especially more as
• 41:08
  the series went on. But then we get the obviously the first story here.
• 41:12
  So the first segment was officially called the count of Monty Fatso. But
• 41:16
  basically it's just, you know, the revenge. So Moe is the Sillia
• 41:20
  to like me, Beth Mimosa's trying to steal the wife of Homer in this
• 41:23
  story, and he does. I did like the twist at the end though,
• 41:28
  essentially where they're like, pamo, we need It was like it's been
• 41:31
  five years and it's like, yeah, but I'm still I was I was
• 41:36
  your dad. You've been going for five years. We forgotten to be you,
• 41:38
  fat boy. Yeah no, And I like the joke. It's just
• 41:43
  like, well, you know, then I had to get what was it.
• 41:46
  Yeah, I had to hire a lot of contractors to build this thing,
• 41:49
  and then I had to get revenge on them at certain points. And
• 41:52
  yeah, I did enjoy that twist as well, and putting the like because
• 41:55
  I feel like the way these sort of things go, especially when Simpson's through
• 42:00
  these tales where Moe is houning in on Marge, it's always like, yeah,
• 42:04
  he's just disregarded at the first available opportunity that he was actually their loving
• 42:07
  father, because yeah, their actual father was gone for five years. I
• 42:13
  did find the mode triplet Maggie's a bit unsettling but whatever, the problem with
• 42:16
  these trilogy episodes too, is that when they have an episode involving like margin
• 42:21
  Homer, it usually is Mo the one that's used as the person who's trying
• 42:23
  to get in between them, because they even did it in the Wetter Stories
• 42:28
  Ever told as well, where it was Moe trying to get like Homer drunk
• 42:31
  on the ship, remember that one? Yeah? Yeah, and then you
• 42:35
  got the Megbeth parody? Was that Mo? And that was Mo? And
• 42:38
  that wasn't then Butch trying to get revenge on Mo. Wasn't he? Oh
• 42:42
  yeah, there we go another revenge story, but was probably told in the
• 42:45
  History episode or something. I don't know. Yeah, so like that,
• 42:47
  I don't know, just it says seems like they keep going back to Mow
• 42:51
  all the time. Probably mean we have I mean we have Peggy fur maybe
• 42:58
  maybe and the luckiest wife in the entire sixteenth this moll let us kiss with
• 43:12
  the tongues. Let us kiss with the tongues as opposed to French guess yeah.
• 43:21
  And then in that same the Butt and Lisa are like, may we
• 43:24
  have this? And then Lisa's like, oh, may we have this candy?
• 43:27
  And then Homer's like may we, may we may we. That gets
• 43:30
  me, like, because yeah, may we as a French phrase for like
• 43:34
  yes or obviously or something like that. Yeah, so it's a few of
• 43:37
  these like clever little French language jokes, Like I like this approach rather than
• 43:42
  sometimes where they go try to fully like everyone in the cast do whatever accent
• 43:46
  of the country that they're parenting, Like I forget. We were talking about
• 43:51
  it on the Treehouse of So you liked the Jack the Ripper one where I
• 43:53
  wasn't a huge fan because I thought them taking the voice off just got annoying
• 43:55
  by the Yanks. I'm like, this isn't jokes, this is just them
• 43:59
  doing funny accents. Yeah. I was just about to bring that up as
• 44:01
  an example of yeah, an episode I like despite the fact that, yeah,
• 44:05
  Marge's English accent is hideous in yeah, and yeah, they do it
• 44:10
  a lot lately, Like there was a recent Treehouse of Horror where they were
• 44:15
  like doing the Mayan calendar thing and they're all sort of affecting like a Spanish
• 44:20
  accent. Was that that was truly That was chreuse of horror. That one
• 44:23
  that was yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it was like the twenty
• 44:27
  fourth or twenty third or something like that. They all start to blur in
• 44:30
  the twenties. Yeah, there's another joke coming up in this segment here,
• 44:34
  which I literally wrote my notes, How has this not already been done in
• 44:36
  the Simpsons? You've been sentenced to life jokes and you I'm already alive.
• 44:39
  I was like, Yeah, that's awesome. That's a really funny joken.
• 44:44
  That's a really good term of phrase. Yeah, yeah, like, how
• 44:46
  has this not been said before? Like that just seems like golden near Homer
• 44:51
  gag right, No, that yeah, excellent, playing with the dialogue here,
• 44:54
  Yeah, I like that. Listen to this latter he wrote, Dear
• 44:59
  England, how I love your moods and heats for you. I do whatever
• 45:02
  it takes, especially treason. I didn't write that even if I did love
• 45:08
  England, I'd play it cool, wait for it to come to me.
• 45:14
  I sentence you to life, you moron. I'm already alive in prison,
• 45:24
  pen pen, I'm gonna start now. I didn't mind Mose setting him up
• 45:35
  as well. This is a letter that I found that Homer had sent,
• 45:37
  deary England, I love you so much and all like that worked for me.
• 45:40
  But yeah, then Wigham taking him away was one of these obnoxiously drawn
• 45:45
  out jokes for me, where Wiggham's doing the police siring himself going near there,
• 45:51
  and then it goes on and on, and then it zooms in on
• 45:52
  Wigham and he's still doing it, and then he just goes, oh,
• 45:55
  I'm gonna stop now, like I think I would have. I wouldn't have
• 45:59
  hated it if it was just that one shot of him driving off into the
• 46:01
  distance, but that they did the zoom in and it still went on and
• 46:05
  then he goes awkward. You know, it just really didn't land. Quite
• 46:09
  often in recent episodes, we've found they are explaining their jokes more and more
• 46:14
  often hmmmmm. And it's like, you don't need to explain it. If
• 46:17
  you don't get it, then just move. It doesn't matter. You know,
• 46:20
  the people will be they'll get it eventually. You know. That's it.
• 46:22
  They didn't pause and stop and explain the diddler and like why they're so
• 46:27
  clever for making those connections. They just said it and it was the twiddling
• 46:30
  of the fingers as well, like they did. I really hate thinking of
• 46:36
  flats in that light. But then we get home getting tortured in prison,
• 46:39
  and I was a big fan of him getting please losing my arm so I
• 46:44
  can shake my wist and yeah, put this in the Homer Shaking Fist playlist.
• 46:49
  Yeah, Homer has a friend in the mouse, which he eats as
• 46:52
  you probably would would you if you were locked in prison and you hadn't been
• 46:54
  fed, probably like a shitty prison like this, would you resort to eating
• 46:59
  a mouse or something like that? Could you do it? I don't think
• 47:00
  I could even kill a mouse, let alone eat it. Yeah, well,
• 47:04
  I mean lock me in the highest tower of a prison and we'll see
• 47:07
  what I do. But yeah, it is a hard thought to make.
• 47:10
  Yeah, like the yeah, especially raw, I feel like that's even worse.
• 47:15
  Like if there's a way that I can make up like a little prison
• 47:19
  grill, maybe have a little uh rat shishkebubs or something like George. Yeah,
• 47:27
  yeah, try sneaking one of those into a cake into a prison.
• 47:30
  Yeah, he's got a semment here and it's mister Burns. I was getting
• 47:32
  like a Latin ViBe's here. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it is very
• 47:37
  much that. Like, Yeah, when Jafar like dresses up sort of thing,
• 47:39
  yeah, yeah, and leads him to the cave of wonders, but
• 47:43
  he's been well, we actually get a bit of like a rape gang here,
• 47:46
  which I was a little uncomfortable with. So basically he's like, I'm
• 47:50
  doing this because you know, I'm too old now. I want to go
• 47:53
  to I've spent thirty years doing it. I wanted to go to good use.
• 47:55
  And I violated you repeatedly while she slept. And I was like,
• 47:59
  I'm not sure rip gags a good thing. I'm like, I'm all for
• 48:01
  the diddler, but like, this is just blatantly saying I raped you while
• 48:04
  she slept, and I was like, oh shit, yeah, with the
• 48:07
  deadly you can say there's an element of cleverness about oh, like how they
• 48:09
  put the joke together, but this is just like, like, all you're
• 48:14
  relying on is the delivery of Burns and it doesn't say but it's just it's
• 48:16
  uncomfortable. Nah, it's not cool at all. Yeah, And I mean,
• 48:22
  on the lesser end of the scale, I also didn't like the mister
• 48:24
  Burns going oh, you wouldn't have noticed me because you're so self centered.
• 48:29
  And then Homer's looking in the yellow water is like, oh, hello,
• 48:31
  there, looking good, and it's like this character hasn't really sort of displayed
• 48:36
  self centered tendencies. If anything, he was just a good family man and
• 48:39
  whatever. This is just this comes out of nowhere, and it's not Homer
• 48:43
  Simpson characteristic either. Like, yeah, it just didn't work for me.
• 48:47
  I was more disappointed of the fact that they ruined the yellow water gag because
• 48:51
  obviously that's meant to be a piss, a puddle of piss on the floor.
• 48:53
  But then Homer comes up through that in the floor and I'm like,
• 48:57
  oh, so that's water from the ocean. Why is it yellow? Then
• 49:00
  you've ruined the gag. Oh, yeah, you're right. And how is
• 49:02
  that water rising up that? Anyway? How's he getting there? It does
• 49:07
  make sense, how's the water going up? Yeah? But he uses the
• 49:12
  map to retrieve the buried treasure, eventually finds it, and five years later
• 49:16
  he's loaded, he's got he's now the he's the count of the town.
• 49:22
  We then cut to Mo and he's the new dad of the family, and
• 49:24
  I guess we're supposed to just assume that Mo just became a good dad.
• 49:29
  Yeah. Well, I like how they don't like explain it before the twist
• 49:32
  at the end, because yeah, you could go from everything that we saw
• 49:37
  before, like oh, he's just a creep ward that when Homer gets his
• 49:39
  revenge, he will have what's coming to him. But then that it's like
• 49:44
  then done as a pullback and revealed. No, he was like good to
• 49:45
  these people, and like he gave these kids a father when they didn't have
• 49:49
  one. Yeah, no, like and I like it when he's like he
• 49:52
  still hasn't revealed that he's Homer, and he's just this counter of Monte Cristo
• 49:55
  and he's putting on this party that has invited them to and like get one
• 50:00
  of these crowd murmured jokes where it's like you know, rubs and cars,
• 50:02
  and then you just hear one person cut through going I've heard rumors he's mysterious,
• 50:07
  Like that's just a good line to me. But eventually reveals his identity
• 50:10
  and they get it when he takes off the mole. Now have you seen
• 50:13
  the Muppets Most Wanted? Oh yeah, yeah, I've only seen that one
• 50:16
  once. I'm generally a big Muppet fan, but no, not so much.
• 50:21
  This is I mean I remember going to the movies to watch it,
• 50:22
  but then my kids became huge Muppet fans. Thank God, because I love
• 50:25
  the Muppets as well. And now that's a podcast like to start one day
• 50:30
  that the Muppet podcast. I've already got it going talking Muppets, got a
• 50:31
  logo and everything. I just wait for someone to do it with. Don't
• 50:35
  tempt me, I've got oh. I have deep history with those guys.
• 50:39
  That's the one. I feel like there's no good Muppets podcast out there.
• 50:44
  That's the money, mate, Like we could do it. Yeah, we'll
• 50:47
  talk off pod. This could be a thing. But now I just want
• 50:52
  to talk about the Muppets. But basically, that whole story is that Constantine
• 50:58
  is the evil Kermit and he's hut the mole on his face and he slaps
• 51:01
  one on Chemis's face and everyone thinks that he is Constantine. Yeah. I
• 51:05
  was just getting vibes up. It's most wanted in this. Yeah. But
• 51:07
  then we get Homer. Yeah, so your real his identity. He murders
• 51:12
  mo by put him in the crape and burning him alive and cooking him,
• 51:15
  and the family just can't believe it. They're all just devastating that you know,
• 51:17
  you've you've killed my husband and Poppa Moan. Who's gonna take care of
• 51:21
  the Triplets. Yeah, and yeah, it's kind of a depressing ending you
• 51:24
  really think about it. Yeah, Like, like I said, I do
• 51:29
  like that twist and the subversion on the end, but like, I'm also
• 51:32
  a big fan of Roupe Goldberg machines and this just didn't do it for me.
• 51:36
  Man, the whole the what do you call it? The Harmless Chair
• 51:39
  of Relaxation, and then it starts out with like a fish squirting him and
• 51:44
  then a hanky slapping him, and then a cannon that shoots a spring loaded
• 51:47
  boot to his crotch, and then yeah, we get the crapes and then
• 51:52
  out comes the branding him. I was like, oh no, Suzette,
• 51:54
  So like, yeah, man, I wanted so much more for a Roupe
• 51:59
  Goldberg masie and this just didn't. It didn't do it for me. And
• 52:01
  the ending where it gets back to present day and Homas wasn't listening to Marge
• 52:05
  at all, I was like, that's right, this guy's a dick when
• 52:07
  when they needing to be Yeah, yeah, that's right, and he's listening
• 52:10
  to Jamaican beats and doing a probably problematic accent right here. Yeah, because
• 52:15
  we just reviewed the Wife Aquatic and for the most part home, it's a
• 52:21
  really good husband, father, and that like he's taken the family to this
• 52:23
  barnacle bay because he was marched. If we live this childhood memory and he's
• 52:29
  just doing all this nice shit, and I'm just like, why did he
• 52:32
  just chop and change with this guy? Yeah, it's clear when when he's
• 52:37
  a good person, the episodes are better. What do you persists with this
• 52:42
  version? Yeah, and when it's he's so singlely focused over something just as
• 52:46
  simple as being cut off like that just to me lends into the hole.
• 52:51
  Like this episode's premise just feels so contrived. It's just like, oh,
• 52:53
  whatever, someone cuts him off and that's why he's angry and they're on a
• 52:57
  car trip like and returning to this is the thing that he's so hell bent
• 53:01
  on revenge for it. Just yeah, I don't think it's justified, even
• 53:06
  in our homer like over exaggerating, overly emotional way, like, yeah,
• 53:09
  this is veering too close to the whole, like jerk ass problem for me?
• 53:15
  Have you ever been cut off? Though? So many times I live
• 53:20
  in Sydney, man, Like, I imagine traffic's bad in Melbourne and Geelong
• 53:23
  too, But holy crap, Oh, shit, man, there's I've got
• 53:27
  a story that I'm not gonna bother boring you guys with. But Nick and
• 53:30
  I had a night in Melbourne on Friday and traffic at like five thirty short,
• 53:36
  long story short. We're staying at this hotel in the Docklands, Melbourne,
• 53:38
  right, very very busy part of Melbourne, and the key to so
• 53:44
  it's on a busy ride, a really really busy road where in the middle
• 53:45
  you can't do a U turn. It's basically you got one road. If
• 53:49
  we get to the other side, you get to go all the way around
• 53:51
  the block and come back up the other way again. It's like like a
• 53:52
  forty minute drive in like pete traffic, just around this block. But this
• 53:55
  guy thought the apartment was staying at and all his wisdom to lead the key
• 54:00
  for the apartment at a place across the street and said to park your car
• 54:07
  there, when really we could have parked our car at the apartment first and
• 54:10
  walked across the road. So we part our car at this easy mart and
• 54:15
  then we realized we have to add another forty five minutes to add trip to
• 54:17
  get to the other side of the road because of the shitty directions that there's
• 54:22
  a nightmare and you can just see your final destination and like I could fart
• 54:28
  and the people could smell it. You know, that's how closely you were.
• 54:30
  Jesus christ. Ah, that's brutal. I was like home with the
• 54:35
  stick almost just put the keys on the end of this stick. Please,
• 54:42
  sir. I'm gonna get my revenge and if I get caught, I'm pinning
• 54:45
  it on the baby, like the time I shot mister Burns. So what
• 54:49
  were your thoughts on here, because they are essentially retconning one of the major
• 54:53
  plot lines of The Simpsons, where he says, if I get caught doing
• 54:57
  this, I'm gonna put it on the baby like I did when I shot
• 54:59
  Burns. Yeah, it's a a blink and you miss it kind of gag
• 55:05
  kind of thing, Like it just says a move on. But it's like
• 55:07
  it's essentially reconning the whole story, right, Yeah, that's the thing,
• 55:12
  and coming back to the continuity only matters when it does story. I guess.
• 55:15
  I guess because of the throwaway line nature of it. To me,
• 55:19
  it didn't like rub me too much the wrong way. But I mean,
• 55:22
  also it just sort of comes back to the whole, like the Simpsons criticizing
• 55:27
  their own decision to make Maggie the killer, and it's like, no,
• 55:30
  own it, Like it's that was your choice. Then don't like try and
• 55:35
  rectroactively like yeah, change it or anything like that, or say it doesn't
• 55:38
  make sense. No, that was the choice you made then, Like that's
• 55:43
  the thing that people write in this episode. Weren't part of the weren't part
• 55:45
  of that team? Yeah, true, true, Yeah, So that would
• 55:50
  be my mentality if I was working with the Simpsons in like season eighteen,
• 55:52
  I would never try and repcon something from like season eight or seven or whatever
• 55:58
  without the permission from the people who actually made a decision. It's like,
• 56:00
  don't fuck with the past. That was their decision, don't change it.
• 56:05
  Yeah, that's it. And like, I guess I just hate the self
• 56:07
  criticismness of it, Like I just feel like it's it's not like a mistake
• 56:13
  you had to own. This was a very good episode that you like,
• 56:16
  you don't need to pretend that was a bad decision. Like, I mean,
• 56:22
  I remember being very disappointed people have People still think it's a pretty stupid
• 56:25
  decision. Yeah, stupid. It's a stupid conclusion. But you know,
• 56:31
  like you said, they made a decision, you got to stick with it.
• 56:34
  Yeah, but that's the problem with it. You couldn't have pinned it
• 56:37
  on any other character without serious legal repercussions for it. Yeah, it's literally
• 56:42
  the besides, maybe Samda's little helper, like was the smartest decision. Yeah.
• 56:47
  Then Lisa tells the story Revenge of the Geeks, and as I said,
• 56:50
  I think I enjoyed this one of the most. So the boys are
• 56:52
  playing a game of what's it called whether that there you're pushing the discs on
• 56:55
  the ice. Oh yeah, it's a bit like curling, isn't it curly?
• 56:59
  That's the one, Yeah, with the Geeks and Skinner as well.
• 57:01
  And Martin then reveals in the science lab he's now built a get Bacon eight
• 57:06
  and all it requires to operate it is a small amount of coordination. Reminds
• 57:09
  me of kind of like the Infinity glove thing. Is it the Infinity glove?
• 57:12
  What's what's Yeah, the infinity got like way before the Simpson's predicted it,
• 57:17
  even though it existed many years before in the comics. So the infinity
• 57:22
  gaulet right by back when I sed to work a pop Coach. When that
• 57:25
  film came out, that was such a hot sell, like every kid wanted
• 57:30
  to have a Gotland on their hands at Christmas time. But hasn't Marvel fallen
• 57:34
  since? Yeah no, I was one of the biggest fans of the MCU
• 57:37
  movies, but Phase four man want to turn around, Like I don't care
• 57:43
  to watch any of the shows. Pretty much every movie that I've watched,
• 57:45
  maybe with the exceptions of Guardians three, I have disliked. I haven't seen
• 57:52
  it. Yes, I don't see what happens, but I'm going to watch
• 57:53
  it just because I have to watch it to sort of complete the trilogy.
• 57:57
  Yeah. No, it's a perfect and that story I'd say with the Marvel
• 58:02
  films, right the Phase four is it a case of no matter how good
• 58:07
  the writing is, if people don't give a shit about the characters, then
• 58:09
  it's not gonna work. Like, no one gives a shit about the characters
• 58:13
  in Phase four. I'm sorry, they just don't. Yeah. I think
• 58:16
  it's also like overexposure as well, and like no better emphasize than with the
• 58:21
  TV shows as well, because Disney Plus has ruined it with the shows.
• 58:24
  Yeah, I mean same with Star Wars as well. Is that. Yeah,
• 58:28
  I used to get very excited for the new Star Wars movie, but
• 58:30
  now that it's a Star Wars series, like I feel like I'm hearing about
• 58:32
  the new one coming out, and the fuck I still haven't watched the other
• 58:36
  three, you know, and it's sort of more of a chore rather than
• 58:39
  like a big movie that you know, we gather the friends and go to.
• 58:43
  Like, yeah, MCU movies were like an event and like they weren't
• 58:46
  always going to be the greatest movies. I think it's worse though. Were
• 58:49
  like a reliable seven out of ten sort of experience, but like because of
• 58:53
  the shows as well, because you're watching out home, it's like more isolated,
• 58:57
  so it's not as like a fun atmosphere as it was to get your
• 59:01
  friends to go to the cinema to see them. And and I mean,
• 59:05
  yeah, I can't blame everything on the pandemic, because yeah, the movies
• 59:07
  themselves as well have just really dropped in quality. And the whole multiverse thing,
• 59:12
  you know, it's just already tired. And I think the promise of
• 59:17
  multiverse superhero movies hasn't been lived up to, Like it's it's just made for
• 59:22
  either lazy or confusing storytelling in my opinion, but did make having good pandava
• 59:27
  special there. Yeah, yeah, I ended up checking that out. That
• 59:30
  wasn't too bad. Actually put a chicken it and make it gay. It
• 59:32
  was fucking hilarious. Yeah, that was the refrain of the thing, that's
• 59:37
  for sure. I did love the way though that they made Kathleen Kennedy the
• 59:39
  baby face by the end, made you realize we're all to blame for this.
• 59:43
  It's not just it's not just like Disney's fault. You guys fucking bitch
• 59:45
  and moan to the point where they felt like they had to do a complete
• 59:49
  fucking one to eighty and then you bitch and made it like it's everyone's at
• 59:52
  fault here. You know, we all need to take a step back,
• 59:53
  sit down, and that's the potblem. I said to Nikola, this is
• 59:57
  exactly what needs to happen, is that Kathleen Kennedy in the faces of Disney
• 1:00:00
  and to sit down and just fucking talk it out with the fans, not
• 1:00:04
  just hiding their offices and make their decisions. Come out and be like,
• 1:00:07
  look, this is why we're doing. Tell us why you don't like it.
• 1:00:10
  Have an open forum I feel like they had an open forum. It
• 1:00:14
  make things all better. Yeah, But I mean there is just a glot
• 1:00:16
  of entertainment right now, when like putting out these shows that are like a
• 1:00:21
  five out of ten is just it's not doing it anymore. Yeah, they
• 1:00:23
  know they need to seriously either yeah Shelvy to start again, or it's something
• 1:00:28
  like just at least scale it back. Yeah. Well, guys, he's
• 1:00:31
  right when he says it's like Star Wars has become homework now and it's never
• 1:00:35
  been more more evident. Then I started watching the Boba Fett show and then
• 1:00:38
  I got bored of it and stopped watching, right And then I started watching
• 1:00:40
  Mando season three, and I was like, wait, why is Gogo's with
• 1:00:45
  mandoig? When the fuck did this happen? What? And it's like,
• 1:00:47
  oh, it happened in Book of Boba Fett. And I'm like, hang
• 1:00:50
  on, that's not the fucking Mandalorian. What's going on? So you tell
• 1:00:53
  me how to watch that show now to understand the Mando Come on? No.
• 1:00:58
  Yeah, And I feel like the MCU as well had this problem when
• 1:01:00
  Agents of Shield was a thing, and like a couple of plot points in
• 1:01:04
  the movies relied on that, and it's like, no one's watching fucking Agents
• 1:01:07
  of Shield. Nobody. That's the aw Ram page of Marvel Shows. Good
• 1:01:15
  day to all our aw fans. But as I was saying, I really
• 1:01:22
  liked this. So you all requires to operate the inffinity Gautlan is a small
• 1:01:25
  amount of coordination. They're all a bit worried about that. Will has to
• 1:01:29
  juggling at camp, juggling class whatever was a camp good morning dingases what are
• 1:01:35
  you doing touching each other's butts? You are so dead, you're alive.
• 1:01:40
  That is such a funny way to just like because I know that. Yeah,
• 1:01:45
  Martin's you know, he's a problem solving nerd. You know he figured
• 1:01:50
  out the scientifically best line to immediately get their eye are as quickly as possible.
• 1:01:55
  Yes, because good morning dinguses what are you doing touching each other's but
• 1:02:02
  And they raced towards him, went to the library. Little Hitler joke here
• 1:02:07
  before Nazi leader, he was a Nazi reader and Milhouse then gets revenge my
• 1:02:15
  bags. What were your thoughts on Kearney's use of my fun bags? Is
• 1:02:20
  that just an Australian thing, the term fun bags? Yeah, it's one
• 1:02:23
  of those things like when you hear Americans say fanny and then you have to
• 1:02:27
  reprogram. Oh okay, that's right, that doesn't mean the same thing.
• 1:02:30
  But like fanny, like you know, that's just their word for it,
• 1:02:34
  where like fun bags is just the term we've made up for breasts because their
• 1:02:38
  bags are fun to some people. Yup. It's like for him and Kearney
• 1:02:44
  call him his fun bags. I'm like, are you guys using a term
• 1:02:47
  that incorrectly here? I've never heard a guy call his man titties, his
• 1:02:52
  man boobs fun bags before. Well, Kenney hasn't does, and he thinks
• 1:02:58
  they're fun and yeah, but he starts hitting Jimbo with a stop hitting yourself?
• 1:03:04
  I like this where it changes to why are you hitting yourself? Yeah,
• 1:03:07
  because man, it just seems like the most obnoxious way to beat someone
• 1:03:13
  up. Why are you hitting yourself? Stop hitting yourself? I'm like,
• 1:03:15
  oh, what a douchebag. Yeah, had a few of those in my
• 1:03:19
  time. I'll tell you what. Really shout it out to my older brothers.
• 1:03:22
  Lisa, then thanks Millhouse. You know we can all the nerds can
• 1:03:25
  breeze easy, breeze breathe easy. Now except the ones of asthma. Of
• 1:03:29
  course, Martin accidentally hits Millhouse with a shuttle cock or something and he uses
• 1:03:34
  a device on Martin. He starts beating up all the nerds with his glove
• 1:03:37
  naws. He's just losing his mind. You're kind of right though, where
• 1:03:39
  he sort of like takes revenge out on all the nerds as well. But
• 1:03:45
  I guess it's just a play on someone who's been beating up their whole life.
• 1:03:47
  They just get power hungry and it's just goes to their head and they
• 1:03:51
  just lose control of what's right and what's wrong. Yeah, I think it
• 1:03:55
  just happens a bit too quickly, and I mean you can give the episode
• 1:03:59
  a bit of leeway, and it's, yeah, it's a three segment story
• 1:04:01
  sort of thing. But yeah, I just would have liked to see the
• 1:04:04
  turn a lot more fleshed out because and I think the other problem that I
• 1:04:09
  have with the back end of this segment as well is that they kind of
• 1:04:12
  burnt all the good glove bullying, I don't know what you call them,
• 1:04:18
  all like the purple nourple and wet willies and things like. They burnt out
• 1:04:21
  all those jokes on the first half of the segments. So when we do
• 1:04:26
  this, he's just like doing the same things to the nerds, and we
• 1:04:29
  don't get any evolution in those jokes except for the new kid who goes,
• 1:04:33
  I just came here to the first time today. I haven't done anything to
• 1:04:35
  you. I didn't mind. Millhouse is, oh you will. But then
• 1:04:40
  yeah, it's just the freshman facial. I don't know. There wasn't a
• 1:04:43
  much development with those anyways. Yeah, and you had an issue with the
• 1:04:48
  diddler. Yeah. Actually, here's a weird connection to our other podcast as
• 1:04:55
  well. I like the idea that even like brown Skeeper Willie was bullying Millhouse,
• 1:05:00
  just in such a blame way. It's like, oh, what's good,
• 1:05:02
  what are you doing? Gonna have some more of your weirdo pills?
• 1:05:04
  And then yeah, Millhouse decapitates him. And then Principal Skinner looks at Groundskeeper
• 1:05:12
  will He's like, hey, will you clean all this up? And then
• 1:05:14
  will he starts drinking his own blood. And ah. Another connection with our
• 1:05:18
  other podcast where we talked about drinking blood recently. Yeah, those of you
• 1:05:23
  wondering in aw this week a wrestler drank the blood of another person. Actually
• 1:05:29
  blood was pointing down this guy's face. He got underneath his face, opened
• 1:05:30
  his mouth and let the blood drip into his own mouth. I was horrified.
• 1:05:34
  Well, yeah, he may not have drunk it. We didn't see
• 1:05:36
  him swallow the blood, but we certainly saw him spit it up in the
• 1:05:40
  air. It dripped into his mouth and he spat it everywhere. And not
• 1:05:45
  cool. Not cool at all much of the year though. For more aw
• 1:05:53
  phone check out gd But Yeah, as you're saying, yes, I guess
• 1:05:58
  the prevenge on the ni Kid, I'm a fan of like Bart's eye coroner.
• 1:06:01
  He's like, that's the only line I get, And Lisa says,
• 1:06:03
  there's no small parts, only small actors. I'm like, what was the
• 1:06:05
  point of that? Excuse me? Sorry, that was gonna be my other
• 1:06:09
  trivia thing. Sorry, I just saw my little note of that asked that
• 1:06:13
  as a trivia question. What was Bart's only line in this thing? Yeah?
• 1:06:15
  I just didn't get the need to It killed the momentum of the scene.
• 1:06:19
  I I'm like, ye, what purpose did that serve? Yeah?
• 1:06:23
  Absolutely, and especially like at this time where yeah, Millhouse is like about
• 1:06:27
  to turn it on Lisa and it's having this yeah, character conflict moment yeah,
• 1:06:30
  that you're right. Yeah, it really did screw with the momentum.
• 1:06:33
  But then this is where Milhouse, he says, because List is concerned,
• 1:06:35
  and Millhouse says, you're gonna love it when you're my queen, and yeah,
• 1:06:39
  he's just he's gone, he's gone mad. And I'm not sure that
• 1:06:42
  this actually happens in any of the Revenge of the Nerd movies because there's a
• 1:06:45
  lot of them, right, it's like three or four, not this obviously
• 1:06:47
  to this level, but like, is there a thing where a guy gets
• 1:06:49
  some sort of like ability to sort of beat up other kids and then the
• 1:06:54
  power gets through his head or something, or is it just it was just
• 1:06:56
  a play on the name. Yeah, okay, Nah, this has nothing
• 1:06:59
  to do with the Revenge of the Nerds besides the fact, like some nerds
• 1:07:02
  get revenge, and even then it's their approaches are very different. I see
• 1:07:10
  why it would be an honor to be your queen. Gone. I feel
• 1:07:15
  it would be best if we just stay friends. Nobody speares my feelings.
• 1:07:25
  I can't do it. I can't hurt you, Lisa. You forgot about
• 1:07:35
  me because I had the momps I actually would have liked I thought it would
• 1:07:44
  have been funny. It's a wasted gag. Obviously, Nelson's one at the
• 1:07:45
  end that takes it and you forgot that we had them forgot to have the
• 1:07:47
  mumps. That's why he wasn't around. But it would have been funny to
• 1:07:50
  have had used like the full Nelson on Nelson somehow. Ah. Yes,
• 1:07:56
  another one for our wrestling fans. Yeah, yeah, true. Back to
• 1:08:00
  present day and trying to have the whole message of when you take revenge revenge
• 1:08:04
  on somebody, you're just as bad as the person that you harm, and
• 1:08:08
  Homas says, no, the lesson is never put you down your weapon.
• 1:08:11
  Basically, Homos is not listening to any of the stories, and it's just
• 1:08:15
  not a great sort of like what are these called when they're in between the
• 1:08:17
  seconds in between? Oh, the interstitials or something. You know that there's
• 1:08:20
  a name for it, but basically they used to use wrap around in the
• 1:08:24
  earlier ones, but they're they're not great in this episode, are they?
• 1:08:27
  Yeah? Well, I forgot to mention as well. At the start of
• 1:08:30
  this segment, it was set up with Lisa being like, you know,
• 1:08:31
  Dad, I also know a tale about blah blah blah, and then Homer
• 1:08:34
  goes, oh, is it the Count of Monte Cristo. I love that
• 1:08:38
  story, and you're just U fuck this guy. Yeah. We then cut
• 1:08:42
  to the rich text and enjoying his view and Home's about to get revenge on
• 1:08:45
  him, and it's time for Bart's story. And was like, no,
• 1:08:48
  he's too dumb for a story. And I was like why why why is
• 1:08:51
  he being this cruel? It's just stupid. But and Bart's isn't a time
• 1:08:56
  that I like to call the past. This is where this story is set.
• 1:08:58
  It is a called Man begins. I'm a big I'm a mark for
• 1:09:02
  Bartman. I just like Bartman. I just rewatched three minute of comic book
• 1:09:05
  recently, the first appearance of Bart Men. What a great episode. Essential
• 1:09:10
  it is. It is an essential episode of the Simpson's. Yeah, just
• 1:09:15
  the introduction to comic book guys as well. But when they're all just like,
• 1:09:17
  we don't want this comic book anymore, freaking kids, and I was
• 1:09:19
  like that that is my life, freaking kids. Given that catchphrase a workout
• 1:09:28
  before. Yeah, it's you know, I used to hate the episode my
• 1:09:30
  sister my sitter, right, Yeah, I've just never really liked that one.
• 1:09:34
  And then I watch it now where Bart's like little more, little more,
• 1:09:39
  too much. My kids do that, but Bart doesn't deliver. And
• 1:09:43
  that's what I didn't like about it was Bart was so deliberately mean to Lisa
• 1:09:46
  in that episode, right, But I watch it now and I can relate
• 1:09:49
  to Lisa's pain of what the fuck mate? Like, like, my kids
• 1:09:54
  are like I want more, drink more, more, more appetuice. I'm
• 1:09:57
  like, maybe more please. I'm not not that March, And I'm like,
• 1:10:00
  freaking kids, you just need them to go to bread already. You
• 1:10:09
  didn't see which bread. But we're at New York and we've got a little
• 1:10:15
  King Kong reference here. He's waving from the top of the tower. And
• 1:10:17
  Bart's walking from the opera with his parents and obviously he's a young Bruce Wayne.
• 1:10:21
  He's heading down the alley. Why they walked in the alley, I'm
• 1:10:25
  not too sure. And Marge then turns a ring around is actually a bigger
• 1:10:29
  one is where snakel the serpent as it turns out to be, shoots Homer
• 1:10:32
  and then shoots Marge because Mama says something in the lines of like don't shoot
• 1:10:35
  her or something. He's like, oh, you don't frighten me bang or
• 1:10:40
  my wife wife bang? Yeah? Or my kid She's like shut up.
• 1:10:43
  They both die. We get the iconic necklace fall into the ground shot avenge
• 1:10:46
  me in a flamboyant in practical fashion. I like that, Yeah, I
• 1:10:49
  like that like as well, like we're talking about, when they do they
• 1:10:54
  sort of more direct parodies of pre established things. It's like, all right,
• 1:10:58
  how do we Simpson's eyer and you know, doing the crime alley scene.
• 1:11:00
  We've seen this a million times. It's the pearls dropping, but you've
• 1:11:03
  got March there, so of course you do the red pearls. It's yea,
• 1:11:06
  a fantastic bit of tying in and then also undermining the source material.
• 1:11:11
  I love that. Yeah, in practical flamboyant fashion. Bart can't do anything.
• 1:11:15
  No, he's had the chance to sort of take the serpent down and
• 1:11:16
  he lets him get away. He's then standing at the graves and it's quite
• 1:11:19
  a sad moment there, but Grandpa walks up and he's going to be the
• 1:11:21
  Alfred here. He's going to get him into shape the old timey way.
• 1:11:25
  A little bit of a montage of him getting into shape, the old Tommy
• 1:11:28
  way, gets into awesome shape. Then we have a Pooh and he's got
• 1:11:31
  his little stall and someone has stolen the herald slash Harold tribute tribunes. And
• 1:11:36
  but then it eltricutes him in a very overseellious homicidal way. Yep and yeah,
• 1:11:45
  but then tells him you're not gonna pay the We're not going to buy
• 1:11:47
  anything. Move along good like the Springfield. I mean, Gotham underworld is
• 1:11:51
  trembling while silent citizens sleeps. Snuggers a bug right because Bartman is knocking down
• 1:11:57
  bad guys like already use knacks up, young Star. It's bad guys like
• 1:12:00
  the Talker, the Deddler, mister bowl Sugar and Spice, and Parson money
• 1:12:16
  a new snake tattoo. When will I find the man who murdered my parents?
• 1:12:23
  When attention bart Man, this is the serpent saying, fangs a lot
• 1:12:28
  for getting rid of the competition, more stuff for me to steal. Oh,
• 1:12:33
  no villain is safe from me, Serpent. I'm not a villain.
• 1:12:36
  I'm a transvestite. Explain that to your maker. I'll take it from here,
• 1:12:45
  bart Man. I've seen this image of poisoned lady so many times I
• 1:12:50
  could never pinpoint remember where it came from, and it's in this I like
• 1:12:55
  to hear him being a villain. They ruined it with the transvestite dad coming
• 1:12:59
  up there, I was like, didn't need to go there. Yeah,
• 1:13:00
  this is reprehensible at best. Like, look, the best way you can
• 1:13:06
  take this joke is that it's a comment on police brutality or whatever. But
• 1:13:12
  you don't want that from your Simpsons and that yeah, Lenny poison Lenny goes,
• 1:13:16
  I'm not a villain, I'm a transvestite. Then but with that information
• 1:13:20
  electrocutes him and then Wiggan goes, I've got it from here and shoots poison
• 1:13:25
  Lenny four times. It's just disgusting, and especially when you find out in
• 1:13:30
  the disproportionate way that transgender people are murdered. It's just there's no reconciling this
• 1:13:35
  supposed joke. It's just awful. Like this is enough to tank this episode
• 1:13:41
  down, like many rating markings just because of this joke in my opinion.
• 1:13:45
  Well, there's a lot of gay panic and homophobic gags. Yeah, in
• 1:13:48
  recent seasons, more more and more evident than ever before, which is a
• 1:13:54
  shame because you know you're talking abot to show the head homophobia ten years prior,
• 1:13:57
  and yeah, and they're doing jokes like this now and it's easy to
• 1:14:01
  sort of just do the cop out of well, it's just a sign at
• 1:14:03
  the times, it's like I get that, and you know, we're reviewing
• 1:14:06
  it through twenty twenty three eyes. Would we have been as annoyed with this
• 1:14:10
  joke in twenty twenty three? Probably not, I'd sorry. In two thousand
• 1:14:13
  and seven, probably not right. More and more people were getting away with
• 1:14:15
  making this kind of joke, and it wasn't widely acknowledged that this isn't the
• 1:14:20
  right way to go about things. We kind of all we all knew it
• 1:14:23
  wasn't right, but it was just the jokes were made. You know,
• 1:14:26
  it's hard to sort of it's hard to explain to someone who's a young person
• 1:14:30
  now why we ever thought it was acceptable in any way. So, reviewing
• 1:14:33
  this with tween twenty three eyes, I look at it and go, it's
• 1:14:36
  just terrible. I just don't think it was just necessary at all, Like
• 1:14:41
  it just it just didn't need to be there. I'm not sure how they
• 1:14:43
  thought it was funny to sort of have I'm just a transvest diet. You
• 1:14:46
  know, I'm not a super villain and we're going to kill you anyway.
• 1:14:49
  They might not have meant it being that they're killing it because it's a transvestor,
• 1:14:53
  but it just comes across that way with the way it's handled. So
• 1:14:56
  maybe it was just poor direction. I'm not too sure, but it comes
• 1:14:59
  across like only because he's a transvestite, which probably isn't a joke that needed
• 1:15:02
  to be in the episode. No, not at all. And we're trying
• 1:15:05
  to portray Bartman as this righteous character and aside from everything else, he's killing
• 1:15:12
  an innocent person. And like they take a bit of leeway with the whole
• 1:15:15
  Batman parody because Batman's whole thing is like he's not meant to kill. And
• 1:15:18
  like, I feel like this episode almost got close to like making a comment
• 1:15:23
  is like he does kind of like leave his the criminals he beats up in
• 1:15:29
  a way that they will probably die, Like the episode gets close to making
• 1:15:32
  that comment but never does. And then yeah, shit, like this just
• 1:15:36
  first of all undermines the character that you're meant to be portraying as righteous,
• 1:15:40
  and yeah, it gives this episode, it gives this segment of real dark
• 1:15:45
  tone that it just doesn't need. That Then like is really confused again when
• 1:15:51
  we move into the next scene, where then it just does turn into like
• 1:15:56
  an Adam West Batman sort of mode. Maybe that was trying to sort of
• 1:16:00
  cover all ground, you know, because we've had both versions of the Batman.
• 1:16:03
  You had the Burton, you had the Christopher Nolan, and you had
• 1:16:05
  the fanboyant TV sixties era and the later nineties ones as well mid to late
• 1:16:11
  nineties. Yeah, well, I mean in this mode as well, I
• 1:16:15
  think you want to be going hard in on the Nolan one. Yeah,
• 1:16:17
  this is the most relevant movie, the most relevant trilogy, and it's just
• 1:16:21
  not But it's not funny though, is it? Is it? You can't
• 1:16:25
  get any humor out of the Christopher Nolan esque Batman vibe. I thought they
• 1:16:29
  were doing a decent job, like and especially like the whole old timey workout
• 1:16:32
  thing. Yeah, that's the era that you're parroting. So yeah, yeah,
• 1:16:36
  go for it and do all those jokes about is an old timey gym
• 1:16:41
  equipment funny, you know, that sort of thing. But yeah, then
• 1:16:45
  just sort of like mixing it in with the stylistic differences, like yeah,
• 1:16:48
  there was just a lot of tonal inconsistency for this segment for me, it's
• 1:16:53
  reviewed. It's revealed here that Bart is looking for the snake tattoo, So
• 1:16:58
  showaway were it a snake, but you know that's what Bart's gonna be doing,
• 1:17:01
  is you can be looking for the villain has the tattoo of the snake
• 1:17:04
  on his neck. We're now at the museum and Lou says, there's no
• 1:17:08
  sign of the serpent demand anywhere. Everything's always worked with you, Like,
• 1:17:11
  nah, yeah, I did like that line. I feel like that,
• 1:17:14
  like the relationship between Lou and Wigham really broke down in the last like two
• 1:17:17
  or three seasons, like Wigham was just always mean to Lou. Now yeah,
• 1:17:21
  yeah, to use another worst episode ever term is that they call it
• 1:17:28
  the Wigham Lou Corner, where a lot of yeah, post classic Simpsons would
• 1:17:31
  just go for these Chief Wigaman Officer Lou like snippy, little like relationshipy sort
• 1:17:36
  of humor sort of thing. And it's also extra weird when you put in
• 1:17:41
  the context, Oh, both these people and characters were voiced by Hanka Zaria,
• 1:17:45
  so it's just Hanka's Aria having these little conversations with himself, like like
• 1:17:49
  you think, like it's just just him riffing in the voice booth, and
• 1:17:53
  they were like, yeah, we love it. Leave it in Like,
• 1:17:55
  but I mean, this was not a bad one to me. I like
• 1:17:59
  that delivery of everything's work with here one thing that always annoys me, like
• 1:18:02
  my pet Peeve in modern season Simpsons. On the show here, I've actually
• 1:18:06
  got one of our patrons, Dan the man he's keeping track of how many
• 1:18:10
  times it happens is the appearance of Side Show Mel. Oh yep, he
• 1:18:13
  gets two appearances in this one, and this is one of them. Here,
• 1:18:15
  so the Serpent's music starts playing in Side Show Mel. My boon's got
• 1:18:17
  to mind of its own. I'm like, when did he become a main
• 1:18:21
  side character because he rarely spoke in like the first twelve seasons. I want
• 1:18:27
  to say, right, really, really, unless it was a crusty episode,
• 1:18:30
  you never heard Mel, like occasionally you would, you know, I
• 1:18:32
  want to hear from sideshow Mel. That's what Fanner says in Who Shop Was
• 1:18:35
  the Band? So like he occasionally spoke, but it was rare to hear
• 1:18:39
  him speak. Now it's every episode I've got something to say in the crowd.
• 1:18:44
  It's like fuck off, yeah, Like this is one of the bad
• 1:18:47
  things about the teens and then especially the HD era Simpsons is they kind of
• 1:18:53
  delved into a bit of like Little Britain style like catchphrase humor and yeah,
• 1:18:58
  we get this from side show Melt, it from klead Us as well,
• 1:19:00
  where it's just like this, oh he comes up, here's an incest or
• 1:19:03
  meth joke, and then or an old Gil bit like and it just sort
• 1:19:08
  of becomes these things where like the story didn't call for these characters. You
• 1:19:11
  were like, this is where we can get the character to come in do
• 1:19:14
  their catchphrase and I'll be off now sort of thing, and like, yeah,
• 1:19:17
  they really did put it a lot of over valuing on Mels verbos,
• 1:19:20
  delivery and that sort of thing. And yeah, look forward to next season,
• 1:19:26
  season nineteen, where they do an episode narrated by side show Mel.
• 1:19:30
  You mentioned this one. I'm a little nervous. You've had Lisa goes Geger.
• 1:19:35
  You're gonna see Dander going Geger. Yeah. I am sickly looking forward
• 1:19:42
  to hearing you review that episode. Man, I think it's gonna send you
• 1:19:45
  baddie. That episode's going to start off with GUIDs doing the intro. Dano
• 1:19:48
  not there. Dando died on his way back to his own planet. Yes
• 1:19:54
  he did. Indeed, that music it's so hypnotic. May Boone has a
• 1:20:00
  mind to be tune. I'll be sneaking those jewels and venom gotta go.
• 1:20:09
  Sorry, I didn't ask your permission. Hope. That's Cobra setic. Hey,
• 1:20:14
  jerk puns are lazy writing up. Batman then arrives and he stands in
• 1:20:19
  the dip. The party is over, and he realizes that the serpent is
• 1:20:24
  the one with the tattoo well obviously, and he kills him by pushes him
• 1:20:28
  back ironically on fangs, and that is the end of the Serpent. Then
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  Lisa the reporter, she rocks up. You know it didn't bring your parents
• 1:20:34
  back? Boy, tell me, big boy, was it a really worth
• 1:20:36
  it? And he's like, well, it didn't bring him back, but
• 1:20:40
  I've got millions of dollars and no one tell me what to do with it.
• 1:20:42
  Color Kevin McAllister, Yeah, And then the episode ends with him using
• 1:20:46
  the weird vibrating band old timing machine and then Bikinni's like jump in the pool,
• 1:20:53
  but he's like, nah, segment over, Yeah, and that's the
• 1:20:58
  end basically, So we have back and present time, but points out,
• 1:21:01
  you know, the acknowledging this the three stories I've told, and this one
• 1:21:05
  you know would have been the firm will been better as a Halloween story.
• 1:21:08
  And then home and the rich text and the bonding over the fact that they're
• 1:21:11
  both from where Connecticut? Connecticut? That's right, and he says, how
• 1:21:15
  many starts you think about there? Hammer says two. Then they lay there
• 1:21:18
  to figure out why humans are inclined to hate each other, and they dedicate
• 1:21:23
  the episode to all those who died in the Star Wars film. Speaking of
• 1:21:26
  Star Wars. Yeah, and that's the end of the episode. So as
• 1:21:30
  season eighteen sends to roll on, majority of the episodes have very weak endings.
• 1:21:35
  They're not really leaving you on much of a high note. And I
• 1:21:38
  think that reflects on the overall positivity of the reviews. I think a lot
• 1:21:43
  of the time the episodes ended after the second act, it probably would be
• 1:21:45
  given a more positive review. But the last it's like they can't see the
• 1:21:48
  landing anymore. It's like they write an episode and then go, oh,
• 1:21:51
  fuck, how are we going to end it? I don't know, just
• 1:21:54
  think of something, you know. It's like they haven't planned an ending out
• 1:21:57
  anymore, because so many of the endings just seem so rush store out of
• 1:22:00
  nowhere or make no sense or just trying to tell a message. Yeah no,
• 1:22:03
  this one as well, like because yeah, at the end of art
• 1:22:05
  story, Homer was just ignoring him the whole time and talking with rich Texon
• 1:22:10
  on the hood of the car. And then it's like they're not solving their
• 1:22:13
  difference, as they're just doing a stupid little fucking only two stars and then
• 1:22:17
  it just I don't know, riffs it its way to an end question mark
• 1:22:23
  and then just goes out on this Star Wars like scroll of all these names
• 1:22:28
  and whatever people who died in Star Wars, and like there weren't any really
• 1:22:32
  good jokes in that as well. It just felt weird and like why are
• 1:22:35
  we doing this? It is a bit of the lolso random era of humor,
• 1:22:41
  the era of comedy. I reckon it was the Family Guy influence.
• 1:22:45
  I think, oh yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah, yeah, that
• 1:22:48
  would have been so much damage to animation. Yeah, I mean, God
• 1:22:55
  bless me, he's made him a lot of money, but he's brand of
• 1:22:58
  humor. Really, I don't think for the better, No, I mean
• 1:23:03
  it's a mix because yeah, Family Guy, I feel like settled into its
• 1:23:06
  right, where yeah, it doesn't matter, we're just setting up sucking a
• 1:23:10
  long line of gags. But then like American Dad tried, like and it
• 1:23:14
  still does like, it actually makes stories with good structure and satisfying endings and
• 1:23:19
  you know, a logical through lines with the plot. But yeah, the
• 1:23:23
  Family Guy effect is yeah, gonna be especially felt in these later teen seasons
• 1:23:28
  where yeah, it's just like, I mean, the best tay you can
• 1:23:31
  give it is that it's a subversion of the old format of tying a nice
• 1:23:35
  making everything wrapped up in nice, neat little package. But yeah, now
• 1:23:39
  excuse me package. But yeah, now the joke is undermining that, which
• 1:23:45
  I don't know, maybe played at the time, but now it just especially
• 1:23:47
  when you're watching a lot of these episodes one after the other, it's just
• 1:23:50
  like, yeah, it's just a pattern. It wasn't a one off to
• 1:23:53
  subvert. It was just you get you get out of episode free card.
• 1:23:58
  What do we learn, Bomber, what'd you learn from the episode? Mister
• 1:24:00
  elliot j And yeah, yeah, never put down your weapon, Never put
• 1:24:03
  down your weapon. That is correct. I learned too. I've like that
• 1:24:08
  it is okay to commit homicide as long as you're saving somebody eighty cents.
• 1:24:12
  Yeah, that's the price. That's what a life is worth. All right,
• 1:24:15
  guys. Now what's gonna happen is I'm actually gonna get in touch with
• 1:24:18
  mister Guy Davis and we're gonna do his new name Championship in a few moments.
• 1:24:21
  Yeah, obviously not recording it right now, but you're gonna hear Guy
• 1:24:25
  Davis's voice in a few moments where we're going to be doing the new new
• 1:24:26
  Championship. That's the one thing Guy we'll be doing. But thank you again,
• 1:24:29
  Alie Janey for Johnny is here on forfing a Discount's been quite a joy
• 1:24:32
  to sit down and talk to your lovely self. No, absolutely, it's
• 1:24:36
  you know, us to Simpsons. Podcasters have been talking about wrestling so much.
• 1:24:41
  It's nice to talk about the thing that got us into podcasting in the
• 1:24:44
  first place. Like, yeah, even dissectingly is you know episodes which like
• 1:24:49
  a life that we can still bring up the good stuff and you know,
• 1:24:53
  still relish in that because yeah, the Simpsons isn't devoid of good content.
• 1:24:58
  And yeah, I love seeing these little glimmers and Yeah, chatting Simpsons with
• 1:25:01
  you is always a treat, and I'm just a little bit warm. I'm
• 1:25:03
  just thinking right now, sometimes it's hard at the best of times for Guy
• 1:25:08
  Davis looking five minutes from my house to get technology to work. So,
• 1:25:12
  if for whatever reason, this show doesn't happens to end in thirty seconds,
• 1:25:16
  that's because I couldn't get this shit sort of, which means that, don't
• 1:25:19
  worry. The new name segment will be on next week show. We'll have
• 1:25:23
  a doubleheader on next week's episode of four figure Discamp. Because I'm fingers crossed.
• 1:25:27
  If this episode you look at your time now, this episode still goes
• 1:25:29
  fro another fifteen or so minutes, it means I got through to guy.
• 1:25:30
  If it doesn't, if you can hear the intro music already, that means
• 1:25:33
  it didn't work. Well, hopefully his teeth are working. Yeah, thinking
• 1:25:39
  of the guy, Good luck with all that. Yeah, before we go
• 1:25:43
  though, talking Muppets, is it gonna happen or what? Oh? Yeah?
• 1:25:48
  Oh man, I'm so excited to buy that ida, especially like I
• 1:25:51
  loved that recent Muppet series they did on the Mayhem Band. I just was
• 1:25:56
  the fucking best, right, I've got the album right here. I bought
• 1:25:59
  vinyl four Oh did awesome? I didn't know that was the thing. Love
• 1:26:02
  it the top the charts, mate, is that right man? Yeah?
• 1:26:08
  I got to get myself a copy of that. Like, yeah, that
• 1:26:11
  episode where were talking, yeah please do because yeah, that episode where Jane
• 1:26:17
  is saying true Colors to what's her name? It left me in tears.
• 1:26:23
  That cover of True Colors is so beautiful. Every song. And there's a
• 1:26:26
  bank here he goes, he's the album holding up for Elliot Jay. That
• 1:26:28
  looks so good. Open it up. It's a gatefold. Yeah. Does
• 1:26:33
  it have a colored vinyl as well? Oh that is a lovely spread.
• 1:26:36
  That is some great heart. There's the back here, very psychedelic. I
• 1:26:42
  believe it is colored vinyl. I shall take it out. We can show
• 1:26:44
  it to you. Let's take it out. It's like you can't see it.
• 1:26:49
  It's like translucent, but it's like swirls through it. Oh that is
• 1:26:54
  unreal. Oh that is beautiful. Every track, yeah, even the original
• 1:26:59
  tracks they may for that show. We're fucking good, right, so good?
• 1:27:01
  Like I get the theme song stuck in my head repeatedly like yeah,
• 1:27:08
  yeah, and yeah, it was just such a good series just so full
• 1:27:12
  of joy and like, I really wish they would do more Muppets material like
• 1:27:15
  that and just like not try to get all the fan favorites in, just
• 1:27:19
  focus on a smaller cast and Muppets and tell a limited series story with those
• 1:27:25
  with a smaller cast of characters. Yeah, this was just why it felt
• 1:27:29
  like it felt like a fresh and original where it didn't have to have Kermit,
• 1:27:34
  it didn't have to have Fozzy in or that in it, and it
• 1:27:36
  was it was it really. I don't think it was like a how the
• 1:27:40
  band came together story. It was more it wasn't set in the past,
• 1:27:43
  was it. No, No, it was set in the modern day.
• 1:27:45
  It was like, yeah, how did this band never record an album sort
• 1:27:47
  of thing. It was just Nicola, my wife, you know Nicola,
• 1:27:50
  she loves the one of rock and roll, oh nah, and part of
• 1:27:55
  the every day but they're just it's amazing how much that show hawd you feeling
• 1:28:03
  emotional for the Muppets again? M m no, because I feel like Disney
• 1:28:08
  have never quite worked out what to do with the license. This is the
• 1:28:11
  first time I was like, you fucking stuck the landing. Yeah, because
• 1:28:14
  even I really liked the Office Muppets show that they did, where it was
• 1:28:18
  about Piggy's late night TV show and them doing the behind the scenes like and
• 1:28:24
  just when I felt like it found its footing, like Candate and ah,
• 1:28:28
  that was such a shame. I thought that could have been an easy four
• 1:28:30
  season show right there. But yeah, and this was like, yeah,
• 1:28:36
  a glimmer of hope that maybe there is more Muppets content to look forward to
• 1:28:41
  in the future. I don't know if they could do another movie quite in
• 1:28:44
  the same way that they did early on, but like, if they do
• 1:28:47
  more of these limited run series, I'm all for it. It was just
• 1:28:51
  such so joyous and yeah in that way that, yeah, they got your
• 1:28:56
  feeling emotions and you'd forget that these are goddamn puppets. You tell so,
• 1:29:01
  you're telling me it's time to play the music. Yes, it's makeup time,
• 1:29:05
  turn the lights all right, man, it's been a joy. Thank
• 1:29:10
  you for joining us here this week. And I forget guys. Guy will
• 1:29:13
  be back next week. I you know what I'm doing. I'm just gonna
• 1:29:15
  say it right now. I'm not gonna bother. I'm just gonna go and
• 1:29:17
  enjoy his time. Ever in Bali, there will be no mail bag this
• 1:29:19
  week. There we know new names this week that the new names will be
• 1:29:23
  on next week shows. A double header will do double the points next week,
• 1:29:26
  so don't worry about that. It will still be happening. But I
• 1:29:28
  think let's just let's just wrap this one up now because guy, he's had
• 1:29:30
  he's had his mouth worked on. He's over there working on his specscript for
• 1:29:34
  his project that he's been working on for years. Let's just not bother him.
• 1:29:38
  Mate, you're asked up, guy. We'll see you next time.
• 1:29:42
  The next episode of four Finger disc Out next week we shall be reviewing Little
• 1:29:45
  Big Girl. Should I be looking forward to this one? Elliott? No,
• 1:29:49
  really, we for a bit of fun with This was actually an unreleased
• 1:29:55
  podcast, but me and BT, my normal co host on The Simpsons in
• 1:30:00
  we had like a tournament where we argued to try and figure out what was
• 1:30:03
  our least favorite episode, and this one ranked very high. Really, I
• 1:30:09
  will flag there is one good joke in it that I still use to this
• 1:30:12
  day, where Bart's driving a car and Lisa goes your hands are meant to
• 1:30:15
  be at ten and two not four and nothing. Only good joke in that
• 1:30:18
  episode but you didn't like an episode that I enjoyed recently, come with what
• 1:30:24
  it was like, and it's a sakend to have opposite taste. But I'm
• 1:30:27
  intrigued. Now I'm going to like it just spite you. Yeah, good
• 1:30:32
  luck. I will try. It's a little big It's not a little big
• 1:30:35
  one. Little big one is good? What is that? Little Big Girl
• 1:30:39
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• 1:30:48
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• 1:30:55
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• 1:31:06
  now, I am Dana, Elliot, Ja and Neil Any find the words
• 1:31:09
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• 1:31:14
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• 1:31:16
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