Latest / Moser, Lombardi and Kane / 7-13-26 Hour 1 - Nuggets Summer League/NFL QB Rankings/HR Derby
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Wow, new Open, big time. Well, this new Open has
- 0:09Speaker 1: been played multiple times over the last couple of weeks. Yeah,
- 0:13Speaker 1: but I don't really listen to it. Or maybe maybe
- 0:15Speaker 1: you're cruising in thirty seconds after that open starts or
- 0:18Speaker 1: something like that.
- 0:19Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 0:19Speaker 3: Maybe, well I can I can promise you that that
- 0:22Speaker 3: that coach Sandford has never hurt his open one time
- 0:24Speaker 3: in his life.
- 0:24Speaker 1: That is absolutely true, more than Victoria. Why do you
- 0:30Speaker 1: look like you're gonna play Gusta today? What's going on
- 0:32Speaker 1: with you?
- 0:32Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm just wearing the shirt because I wore yesterday
- 0:36Speaker 2: and so I said, you know what, I'm going to
- 0:37Speaker 2: use it for the show this morning. Then take it off.
- 0:39Speaker 1: Yeah, but your your your hair is typically a mess.
- 0:42Speaker 1: It looks like it's it's been gelled of some sort.
- 0:45Speaker 2: I got my hair done over the weekend.
- 0:48Speaker 1: You ever gonna go back to die in that sucker?
- 0:51Speaker 2: It has dyed. That's brown, isn't it brown? Yeah? It's
- 0:57Speaker 2: pretty much.
- 0:59Speaker 1: Color blind.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Hey, how was doing television over the weekend? You had
- 1:02Speaker 2: to show your hair? I missed you. I didn't see you.
- 1:05Speaker 1: How was it different? It was different? I've never done
- 1:09Speaker 1: that before, Like that version of I'm the one running
- 1:12Speaker 1: the show and people are yelling at me at what
- 1:14Speaker 1: what is coming next? And when I have to throw
- 1:16Speaker 1: to and all that?
- 1:17Speaker 2: Is that what you do here?
- 1:18Speaker 1: No, I don't get like Bacha and Nelly aren't yelling
- 1:21Speaker 1: at me like hey, in two minutes, you're gonna toss
- 1:23Speaker 1: to Katie out in Vegas. She's gonna talk to Bryce
- 1:25Speaker 1: Hockey like that. It's not happening in my.
- 1:27Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.
- 1:28Speaker 2: Just you did television studio hosting. Yes, and I've done
- 1:32Speaker 2: television my whole life. Is it radio so much better?
- 1:36Speaker 2: I like the freedom of radio. Yeah, I mean, I
- 1:38Speaker 2: like the freedom. Is there nothing? And I mean to
- 1:41Speaker 2: say it didn't have to I had fun. It was different.
- 1:43Speaker 1: I'm glad I did it, all that different stuff. But yeah,
- 1:46Speaker 1: you know.
- 1:46Speaker 3: What's interesting Vic that you say that, because I think
- 1:50Speaker 3: when people.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Actually say thank you, sorry much, thank you everybody altitude
- 1:55Speaker 1: you make me. You made it very easy for me.
- 1:57Speaker 2: You better thank me. I'm the one who suggested you yeah,
- 1:59Speaker 2: but left so yeah, you better think me. Otherwise you
- 2:03Speaker 2: wouldn't have done it.
- 2:05Speaker 1: A big shout out to Scott Bay and Jenny and
- 2:08Speaker 1: everybody there.
- 2:08Speaker 2: Better to come thanking me, Griff.
- 2:11Speaker 1: You did a great job, all the camera crew, everybody else. Yeah,
- 2:14Speaker 1: you guys did awesome, Vick.
- 2:15Speaker 3: When people see how the sausages made, yeah, I think
- 2:19Speaker 3: a lot of times they're surprised at really how many
- 2:23Speaker 3: moving parts there are, right, I mean, and certainly for
- 2:26Speaker 3: that show. When you're talking about a broadcast, like do
- 2:28Speaker 3: it calling the games? You know, I'm calling the game,
- 2:32Speaker 3: but there's somebody in my ear all constantly right.
- 2:36Speaker 2: And telling you what to do and where to go.
- 2:38Speaker 3: And while you're calling, I mean, you know, there are
- 2:41Speaker 3: little pauses here and there, Riker jumps in. I'm talking,
- 2:43Speaker 3: but there's constant communication from the directors and you guys,
- 2:47Speaker 3: producers and producer. Really, you guys are gonna love this,
- 2:51Speaker 3: just quickly, quick aside. Yeah, and I mean this sincerely.
- 2:55Speaker 3: This is not fishing for a compliment. I don't think
- 2:57Speaker 3: I was very good at this, at least I didn't
- 2:58Speaker 3: feel like I was. I think most of the time,
- 3:01Speaker 3: you always feel like you didn't do as well.
- 3:03Speaker 1: As people said you did. I don't know. This isn't
- 3:06Speaker 1: fishing for a compliment at all. But there is one
- 3:09Speaker 1: gigantic mess up that I had the first show the
- 3:12Speaker 1: first one. So it's the second segment of this pregame show,
- 3:16Speaker 1: and I don't know the television terms. It's hard for me.
- 3:21Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 3:21Speaker 1: I've never seen a TV rundown before, so I'm just
- 3:23Speaker 1: kind of faking.
- 3:24Speaker 2: Its phone book and You're like, what the hell is this?
- 3:27Speaker 1: So we're talking about the rookies Hopkins in Brazil, and
- 3:31Speaker 1: Jenny is in my ear she goes, toss to the feature.
- 3:35Speaker 1: In my head, I thought the feature meant talk about
- 3:38Speaker 1: the rookies, and I'm like, I'm just mentally going, I'm
- 3:43Speaker 1: featuring it. Why are you yelling at me to toss
- 3:46Speaker 1: to a feature? And later in that rundown, I was
- 3:50Speaker 1: tossing to Katie to for Bryce Hopkins thing.
- 3:53Speaker 2: I go, I'll tell you what.
- 3:54Speaker 1: Let's just go out to Katie. Katie who's in Vegas. Hi, Katie,
- 4:00Speaker 1: and I go, I don't know what feature means and
- 4:04Speaker 1: they go it's a video. I go, okay, fine, got it.
- 4:07Speaker 1: Now I'm like, you gotta remember, I don't know what
- 4:10Speaker 1: i'm doing here. You know what a bosat is voice
- 4:14Speaker 1: sound on tape something that's exactly right.
- 4:17Speaker 2: Yeah, So I got there. But yes, hey, I like
- 4:22Speaker 2: this Bryce Hopkins.
- 4:24Speaker 1: Tell you what, he didn't look scared at all. He's
- 4:28Speaker 1: somebody that he kind of plays at his own pace.
- 4:31Speaker 1: He's aggressive, he gets the rim, he's athletic.
- 4:34Speaker 2: I liked it too.
- 4:35Speaker 1: I wish we got more of Trevor Brazil because he
- 4:37Speaker 1: played for a few minutes in that first game and
- 4:40Speaker 1: then had the shoulder strain, so he was out for
- 4:41Speaker 1: a game too. It doesn't sound like it's anything serious,
- 4:44Speaker 1: but as far as summer league, you know what's crazy.
- 4:48Speaker 1: The Nuggets need cheap guys on the roster. These guys
- 4:53Speaker 1: could make the team. We're talking about the draft picks
- 4:55Speaker 1: or kJ Simpson or whoever.
- 4:58Speaker 2: They just went out to Europe and picked up the
- 5:00Speaker 2: European League a defensive player of the year Alpha Diallo,
- 5:04Speaker 2: who once played here in high school for West High School.
- 5:09Speaker 2: So twenty nine years old, and it said, let's go
- 5:12Speaker 2: to Europe and fill one of our needs.
- 5:16Speaker 1: I'm totally in on somebody who's just a defensive stopper
- 5:19Speaker 1: that might not have much else, Like I loved Tory Craig.
- 5:22Speaker 1: Tory Craig was kind of that when he was here.
- 5:24Speaker 1: But they brought in guys. You guys, remember like A
- 5:26Speaker 1: was this Shaq Harrison was his name. Yeah, yeah, just
- 5:30Speaker 1: purely defense.
- 5:31Speaker 2: Yeah, he couldn't shoot at all.
- 5:32Speaker 1: No, I played hard d I don't know if Alpha
- 5:36Speaker 1: Diallo's got offensive game or not to him, but his
- 5:39Speaker 1: defender of the year, okay, I'll take that is you
- 5:41Speaker 1: can defend on the perimeter. Sure.
- 5:43Speaker 2: Well, I mean I think the acquisition of Alpha Diallo
- 5:47Speaker 2: and I believe the Nuggets still have two more roster
- 5:49Speaker 2: spots to fill that could pretty much be it for
- 5:52Speaker 2: Spencer Jones unless they work a deal out of nowhere,
- 5:57Speaker 2: because they paid a lot less for this Alpha Diallo
- 6:00Speaker 2: than what they were going to pay for Spencer Jones.
- 6:03Speaker 3: But it's kind of weird that a twenty nine year
- 6:04Speaker 3: old is making the jump to the NBA. Yeah at
- 6:08Speaker 3: fourteen million bucks a year, man, hey or no, down
- 6:11Speaker 3: fourteen I mean one point four million bucks a year.
- 6:13Speaker 2: It's a shot in the dark. Post one point four
- 6:16Speaker 2: it's a shot in the dark.
- 6:19Speaker 1: They which again they have?
- 6:22Speaker 2: Is it?
- 6:22Speaker 1: What vic eight guaranteed roster spots as of right now
- 6:25Speaker 1: with like eleven that are our potential with Peyton Watson,
- 6:30Speaker 1: Spencer Jones and and kJ Simpson who is under to.
- 6:37Speaker 2: Look Alan throw up the roster, so.
- 6:39Speaker 1: We had ten.
- 6:40Speaker 3: Are we putting Brazil? I mean is he Yeah, he's
- 6:43Speaker 3: on the roster roster, Yes.
- 6:44Speaker 1: Well, what Brazil and Hopkins are both going to be
- 6:47Speaker 1: at minimum two way guys.
- 6:48Speaker 2: So I think they signed treve On Brazil over the weekend.
- 6:52Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they did too. Yeah, well that's you
- 6:57Speaker 1: still have through what we're looking at here five spots
- 7:00Speaker 1: in that sales. Here's what the lineup looks like as
- 7:02Speaker 1: right now, it's Jokic, Murray, Gordon Johnson, Christian Brown, Zeke
- 7:07Speaker 1: Naji Strather, Holmes, now Alpha Diallo and Trevn Brazil. That
- 7:11Speaker 1: is not good, bro, I.
- 7:13Speaker 2: Mean they need they yeah, ball handling you forgot Tyas Jones.
- 7:19Speaker 1: Jones Tyas Jones is on the and Marvin Bagley, So
- 7:23Speaker 1: there you go.
- 7:23Speaker 2: But they still need another guard. They need another guard.
- 7:28Speaker 1: Do you think kJ Simpson can make a case he
- 7:30Speaker 1: didn't play great in the first couple of games of
- 7:32Speaker 1: some league. He had like moments and stretches where he
- 7:35Speaker 1: was great, but not consistently over four quarters. Hey, Vic, I.
- 7:39Speaker 3: Waited this weekend and I'm waiting, and I'm waiting, and
- 7:42Speaker 3: I'm waiting for some sort of Peyton wasn't what Peyton
- 7:46Speaker 3: Watson resolution, I'm just playing the waiting game. It's I
- 7:51Speaker 3: feel like we're in stagnation.
- 7:54Speaker 1: What's the holding pattern? What's yeah? What? What?
- 7:56Speaker 3: What?
- 7:56Speaker 1: What's?
- 7:57Speaker 2: Why?
- 7:57Speaker 3: Is there no movement from another team? Why are there's
- 8:00Speaker 3: a new movement from him now? I mean, what do
- 8:03Speaker 3: you think is going on here?
- 8:04Speaker 2: There doesn't have to be any movement from from the Nuggets.
- 8:06Speaker 2: They signed him to a qualifying offer. If another team
- 8:10Speaker 2: doesn't make an offer, they can simply say, Okay, let's
- 8:13Speaker 2: settle for this. The Nuggets don't have to do anything. Well,
- 8:17Speaker 2: I don't.
- 8:18Speaker 1: I think just from a business standpoint, they would not,
- 8:22Speaker 1: of course not have him play on the qualifying offer.
- 8:25Speaker 2: But at the same time, if you pay him more
- 8:28Speaker 2: than the qualifying offer and pay him his market rate,
- 8:32Speaker 2: then you're probably looking to move somebody.
- 8:35Speaker 1: Yeah, and I do you think a sign and trade
- 8:39Speaker 1: is still out there and a possibility? I just saw
- 8:42Speaker 1: what was I don't was it like Mark Stein or
- 8:46Speaker 1: somebody said the Hawks might get involved in this now
- 8:49Speaker 1: with a potential sign and trade or something. It's like
- 8:51Speaker 1: every day there's something new. Uh, I'm kind of with you.
- 8:55Speaker 1: The rumor mill says the asking price and a sign
- 8:59Speaker 1: and trade is similar to a Walker Kessler deal. He's
- 9:02Speaker 1: Louise and that would be two first round picks in
- 9:04Speaker 1: two first round pick swaps.
- 9:05Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's well, what first round picks do they
- 9:09Speaker 3: have to swap twenty thirty eight?
- 9:12Speaker 2: I mean it's a good question.
- 9:14Speaker 3: Pick hey, Vic, when you when you and I are
- 9:17Speaker 3: long gone, that pick will be swapped.
- 9:22Speaker 2: Actually, I get what vics.
- 9:23Speaker 3: I get what Vic says, the what he says, you
- 9:24Speaker 3: know what I don't. I don't care about twenty thirty eight.
- 9:27Speaker 3: I care about now. I'm right Vic, I'm right there
- 9:31Speaker 3: with you.
- 9:32Speaker 1: Yes, I care about two days. Do you think the
- 9:34Speaker 1: NBA would allow this? You have to swap the first
- 9:38Speaker 1: pick after either Vic or Moser die, whichever first pick
- 9:42Speaker 1: comes after that, that's the year that we're doing the swap.
- 9:44Speaker 2: Yep, just pick randomly.
- 9:46Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be the year they hit on Joker too,
- 9:51Speaker 3: and then you know whatever, whatever guy that becomes a star.
- 9:54Speaker 2: Did you see the photos of Joker rafting? Did you
- 9:56Speaker 2: see how skinny he looks? Let's cut, a little cut,
- 10:00Speaker 2: looking good?
- 10:01Speaker 1: He has that. That's an annual tradition, isn't it.
- 10:05Speaker 2: Boyant as usual? He looks skinny. He does.
- 10:09Speaker 1: He's somebody that again you know what's funny.
- 10:13Speaker 2: Look at him.
- 10:14Speaker 1: He looks felt. Never have to worry about joke. That's
- 10:20Speaker 1: the nice thing. Like even with the contract stuff, when
- 10:22Speaker 1: people are like, is he going to sign his extension? Like, yes,
- 10:24Speaker 1: he'll be fine. It's the last worry in the world.
- 10:27Speaker 1: Is this guy right here, he's.
- 10:28Speaker 2: For the way. By the way, With all due respect
- 10:32Speaker 2: to rafting officials and rafting people, I know some rafting leaders.
- 10:37Speaker 2: What do you call those people that lead rafts? Rafters?
- 10:41Speaker 2: All those people that lead rafters. Okay, you will never
- 10:46Speaker 2: get me on one of those ships ever, just so
- 10:50Speaker 2: we know, just so we're clear, Just so we're clear.
- 10:52Speaker 2: It's not a ship, a little rubber shift, whatever it is.
- 10:56Speaker 2: You will never get me on that thing in the
- 10:59Speaker 2: middle of the ratapons. That is insanity to me.
- 11:03Speaker 1: Well you can't swim.
- 11:04Speaker 2: Yes, that's a problem.
- 11:05Speaker 1: Post this is an issue.
- 11:06Speaker 2: I'm not wearing the big balloon on my chest. I
- 11:10Speaker 2: ain't doing it.
- 11:11Speaker 1: It's gonna look like the kid from a Christmas story
- 11:13Speaker 1: when he goes out rafting. Yeah, Brandy just totally bubbled out.
- 11:18Speaker 1: I can't put arms down.
- 11:20Speaker 3: Most of you down. Yes, they have, and I enjoyed it.
- 11:24Speaker 3: It was fun, it was cool.
- 11:25Speaker 1: You get pretty wet, you're pretty wet.
- 11:27Speaker 2: What's I'm just trying to figure out what happens if.
- 11:31Speaker 3: It's well, if you fall, you've got a life jacket on,
- 11:34Speaker 3: you probably get torn up a little bit, maybe hit
- 11:36Speaker 3: some rocks and stuff, but you ain't gonna drown. You
- 11:39Speaker 3: got a helmet on. I mean, it's not it's not
- 11:41Speaker 3: like it's without danger.
- 11:43Speaker 2: The peeling, it doesn't.
- 11:44Speaker 1: Well, listen these I weren't. I wasn't in class five.
- 11:47Speaker 1: You know where you go underwater and you blow up out.
- 11:50Speaker 3: You know, it's just you know, you're going down the
- 11:52Speaker 3: rapids and you're water's.
- 11:54Speaker 2: Flying all over and it's it's fun.
- 11:57Speaker 1: Just kind of an.
- 11:57Speaker 2: Adventure inner tube down a lazy river. I can handle that.
- 12:01Speaker 1: I've done that too. If it's done as well, it's
- 12:03Speaker 1: a little creek. I went to Vail about a month ago.
- 12:06Speaker 1: Creak off the south side.
- 12:10Speaker 2: Oh god, what's the highway seventy?
- 12:13Speaker 1: But there's a big there's always rafters going down, right. Yeah,
- 12:17Speaker 1: you've been up to Golden Clere, the non intense, family
- 12:20Speaker 1: friendly sort of rafting trip.
- 12:22Speaker 3: There's people on Clear Creek all the time, all day.
- 12:26Speaker 2: No, I'm not doing that. Looks too intense to me.
- 12:29Speaker 2: When you see the white water and all that stuff.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Did you see the smile on Joker's face?
- 12:34Speaker 2: And seven foot eleven, he's taller than the than the water,
- 12:37Speaker 2: than the river. He's fine. He wouldn't stand up. Do
- 12:40Speaker 2: you think if they're in charge of you, would there
- 12:42Speaker 2: Allen police.
- 12:43Speaker 1: If you were in charge of the Nuggets, would you
- 12:45Speaker 1: mandate that he at least has arm floaties? Yeah?
- 12:49Speaker 3: I want to see that picture again because, Okay, now
- 12:53Speaker 3: that looks dangerous to me.
- 12:54Speaker 2: I'm sorry, guys, I don't like.
- 12:55Speaker 1: How these guys are all wearing his brother's wearing a vest.
- 12:58Speaker 3: You've got is he wearing a vest and four guys
- 13:00Speaker 3: with a life jacket on? And Joker and two other
- 13:03Speaker 3: dudes do not have a life jacket on. I just
- 13:07Speaker 3: think at least water waterway. That guy in the back
- 13:10Speaker 3: has to be the guide. The guy that's the guy right,
- 13:13Speaker 3: he has a vest on. You make sure three time
- 13:16Speaker 3: MVP has a vest.
- 13:18Speaker 1: I don't care if you gotta go custom make one
- 13:21Speaker 1: to fit a seven foot frame. It's got to be
- 13:22Speaker 1: on there.
- 13:24Speaker 2: Yeah, ain't gonna happen. See like the segment we just did.
- 13:30Speaker 2: You would never have a segment like this in television
- 13:33Speaker 2: because in television everything is scripted, everything is here's what's next,
- 13:38Speaker 2: here's what you do now? Sponsored by this, you would
- 13:42Speaker 2: never be able to riff like we just did. And
- 13:45Speaker 2: that's the difference between radio and television. Even though this
- 13:47Speaker 2: show is on television right now. Television is staccato, it's
- 13:52Speaker 2: right there. It's it's rule bound. You've got to do
- 13:56Speaker 2: follow the rules.
- 13:58Speaker 1: You'll get drafting and sponsored by the show out mosta
- 14:00Speaker 1: text line, one price, one person, one hour.
- 14:04Speaker 3: I do want to get to this we real quick though.
- 14:06Speaker 3: It's pretty interesting. You've been on TV. But as a guest,
- 14:09Speaker 3: you just sit around and riff and just hey, what's up?
- 14:11Speaker 1: Oh the guest chair.
- 14:12Speaker 3: So when you run in the show, when you're when
- 14:15Speaker 3: you're running the show, dude, and they're all in your
- 14:17Speaker 3: ear all, how'd you like wearing an if B?
- 14:19Speaker 2: Yeah? How's that?
- 14:21Speaker 1: I hated it? Yeah, I felt schizophrenic.
- 14:24Speaker 2: I respect for your boy, now, I always had.
- 14:27Speaker 1: I've always said television is really hard. I've never said
- 14:30Speaker 1: that job is easy. I've said to plenty of times
- 14:32Speaker 1: play by play incredibly hard. That's why I don't criticize
- 14:35Speaker 1: it all.
- 14:35Speaker 2: I think Moses's job might be the hardest job in
- 14:37Speaker 2: allow hockey play by play, and.
- 14:39Speaker 1: Everybody gives them grief from Like, I don't think people
- 14:41Speaker 1: understand how hard that job is. This job's easy. Like,
- 14:45Speaker 1: all I have to say is this baka hit the button.
- 14:47Speaker 1: We're done here, break. I mean it hit the button,
- 14:54Speaker 1: all right? So a few things here I want to
- 14:57Speaker 1: get to ESPN they have the executive coaches scouts ranking
- 15:01Speaker 1: top ten at each position, and I think there's a
- 15:03Speaker 1: lot of meat on the bone with quarterbacks, and it's
- 15:07Speaker 1: not just bone nicks. But I think it came to
- 15:09Speaker 1: a realization reading this list because when you see who
- 15:14Speaker 1: their top ten are, I think there's a couple of
- 15:17Speaker 1: surprises on here. Now, typically when you do these top
- 15:19Speaker 1: ten lists, people go in descending order. They go from
- 15:22Speaker 1: ten to one. I think it's way more interesting to
- 15:25Speaker 1: go from one to ten because we know the top guys.
- 15:27Speaker 1: Number one to them is Josh Allen. Any arguments, well,
- 15:31Speaker 1: I mean he's a rating MVP, so it's hard to
- 15:33Speaker 1: or no, he's not anymore. He was the rating MVP.
- 15:35Speaker 1: But it's like if you have him one, two, three,
- 15:37Speaker 1: I mean, whatever, nobody's gonna do it.
- 15:39Speaker 2: I think. I think if you gave me a choice
- 15:41Speaker 2: to pick one quarterback of this era right now, I
- 15:43Speaker 2: would take Patrick Mahomes over Josh Allen.
- 15:45Speaker 1: Well, Mahomes is two.
- 15:46Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 15:47Speaker 1: Number three is Stafford at the age of what thirty eight,
- 15:51Speaker 1: but raining MVP.
- 15:53Speaker 3: He's he had forty six touchdown passes.
- 15:56Speaker 1: Number four is Joe Burrow.
- 16:00Speaker 2: All right.
- 16:01Speaker 1: Number five is Lamar Jackson. And I think in any
- 16:03Speaker 1: order you want to put those top five, that feels
- 16:06Speaker 1: like probably your.
- 16:06Speaker 3: Top five, I would, and I would say on any
- 16:08Speaker 3: given week or any given season, that top five can
- 16:12Speaker 3: rotate around and shift, but they're all still there.
- 16:15Speaker 1: Yes. So here's where I think the first interesting one
- 16:17Speaker 1: is at six, they have Dak Prescott. I'll say this
- 16:21Speaker 1: about Dak. Dak when he's healthy he missed last year.
- 16:24Speaker 1: You know with that leg, the broken leg. When Dak
- 16:28Speaker 1: is healthy, that Cowboys offense is really good and they
- 16:32Speaker 1: lose games not because their offense doesn't score, it's because
- 16:35Speaker 1: they can't stop people from scoring. So him being at six, okay, fine.
- 16:39Speaker 1: Number seven is Herbert. Number eight is Drake May, who
- 16:45Speaker 1: if again a couple of votes shy from an MVP
- 16:49Speaker 1: just made a Super Bowl hard to argue. Number nine
- 16:52Speaker 1: is goff Lines I think have been top three in
- 16:56Speaker 1: scoring last three years in the NFL. Right, And at
- 17:00Speaker 1: number ten is Caleb Williams. That means these names are
- 17:06Speaker 1: not in the top ten. And Caleb Williams and Drake
- 17:09Speaker 1: May and Dak Prescott are. No Sam Darnold who just
- 17:14Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl and had back to back fourteen
- 17:16Speaker 1: win seasons with two different teams, mind you. No Jordan
- 17:20Speaker 1: Love it's been good for the Packers for a while.
- 17:22Speaker 1: You know else is not on that list. Trevor Lawrence.
- 17:25Speaker 1: No Trevor Lawrence, No Baker Mayfield. All of those guys
- 17:29Speaker 1: are in the category of honorable mentions, along with Jayden Daniels,
- 17:34Speaker 1: Rock Purty and Jalen Hurts. Where's our guy? So at
- 17:38Speaker 1: the end there's an also receiving votes, and that is
- 17:42Speaker 1: bo Nick's, Daniel Jones and c J. Stroud. Here's what
- 17:45Speaker 1: I think is the realization I've come to, you know,
- 17:49Speaker 1: the amount of arguments that we had mos about Brock Purty,
- 17:52Speaker 1: you and me, where I just like, I don't buy Brock.
- 17:54Speaker 1: I think he's fine. I think he's a fine quarterback.
- 17:57Speaker 1: I just don't think he's great. The same thing about
- 18:00Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. I think he's a fine quarterback. I just
- 18:02Speaker 1: don't think he's great. And it's the reason I think
- 18:05Speaker 1: that is I think the team is more responsible for
- 18:09Speaker 1: the winning than they are, not that they aren't in
- 18:13Speaker 1: part responsible for it, but it's not they aren't carrying
- 18:15Speaker 1: their teams to victory. They're part of a machine, and
- 18:19Speaker 1: the Niners have a hell of a machine and the
- 18:21Speaker 1: Eagles have a hell of a machine. I think that
- 18:23Speaker 1: bo Nix is in the pretty Hurts thing that peop
- 18:26Speaker 1: were like, Yeah, he's good, but have you seen the
- 18:28Speaker 1: Broncos deal.
- 18:29Speaker 3: He's part of the machines and that machine gives him
- 18:32Speaker 3: the ball and stops the opponents.
- 18:34Speaker 1: Correct, Okay, that's what makes it great.
- 18:37Speaker 2: Is that's a great point. And it also it also
- 18:42Speaker 2: proves why John Elway was one of the greatest of
- 18:45Speaker 2: all time, because the he's the opposite of what you
- 18:48Speaker 2: just described, right right, He pulled He didn't just join
- 18:52Speaker 2: the part, he pulled the team totally. Peyton Manning did
- 18:55Speaker 2: that forever until Super Bowl fifty.
- 18:59Speaker 1: Yes, but I'm voting his colt stays and stuff.
- 19:01Speaker 2: He was the team. Yep.
- 19:03Speaker 3: You know it's interesting some of these top flight quarterbacks
- 19:07Speaker 3: when you're talking about again you're talking about Alan and
- 19:11Speaker 3: Mahomes and so on. The great bum Phillips quote about
- 19:15Speaker 3: a good coach, Remember that quote, Vic, Yeah, he says,
- 19:19Speaker 3: he said, So it's almost like this.
- 19:20Speaker 2: It's like this.
- 19:21Speaker 1: He can take his in and beat urin and he
- 19:23Speaker 1: can take urine and beat his it.
- 19:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 19:25Speaker 3: So it's almost like, Okay, so if you if you
- 19:27Speaker 3: start flipping these quarterbacks and put them, if you put
- 19:31Speaker 3: Josh Allen in the Broncos system with the Broncos defense,
- 19:35Speaker 3: what does it look like? And if you put Bonicks
- 19:38Speaker 3: in Buffalo, what does it look like?
- 19:40Speaker 1: It? Right, here's what's funny, though, put Josh Allen in
- 19:45Speaker 1: the Broncos situation, I don't know if they're better than
- 19:48Speaker 1: fourteen and three a great championship appear, you know what
- 19:51Speaker 1: I mean? Like agreed, Now, the offense would certainly be
- 19:54Speaker 1: better because he's amazing. Like that's just that's gonna be
- 19:57Speaker 1: the fact. But overall, hard to do better than fourteen
- 20:00Speaker 1: wins in the season, really hard. Now, how you can
- 20:03Speaker 1: get to the fourteen wins is a little bit different.
- 20:06Speaker 1: But you said, for your money, Vic Mahomes, And this
- 20:09Speaker 1: is another thing that I think is interesting towards this.
- 20:12Speaker 2: He's got the hardware.
- 20:15Speaker 1: Are we ranking this based off of what's happened in
- 20:18Speaker 1: the past or what do you think they are right now?
- 20:20Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna give you just from a numbers.
- 20:23Speaker 4: Perspective, Yeah, Patrick Mahomes last three seasons, twenty seven touchdowns,
- 20:28Speaker 4: fourteen picks, twenty six touchdowns, eleven picks, twenty two touchdowns,
- 20:32Speaker 4: eleven picks, all of those hovering around four thousand yards passing.
- 20:36Speaker 1: That's a not great. That's not great. If I did
- 20:39Speaker 1: blind resume, you would say that's a good quarterback. He's
- 20:43Speaker 1: not second best in the league. He's good. Blind resume,
- 20:46Speaker 1: you'd say that. But when you look before that, it's
- 20:49Speaker 1: the fifty touchdown, five thousand yard season, it's the forty
- 20:52Speaker 1: one touchdown fifty two hundred yard season. It's the high
- 20:55Speaker 1: flying Chiefs offenses that we know that put up thirty
- 20:57Speaker 1: five points a game. I don't know if exists in
- 21:00Speaker 1: Kansas City anymore. And I'm not saying that he's bad
- 21:03Speaker 1: or anything, or that he's substantially worse than before. But
- 21:09Speaker 1: is Mahomes getting this sort of love for historically what
- 21:13Speaker 1: he's talking to the benefit of the doubts and not
- 21:15Speaker 1: what he is now? Well.
- 21:16Speaker 3: I love the quote from an unnamed NFL quarterbacks coach
- 21:20Speaker 3: who said he still puts fear in people like no
- 21:23Speaker 3: other quarterback. His skill set combined with his will to win,
- 21:26Speaker 3: puts him at the top. I think, if you I've
- 21:30Speaker 3: learned this, Vic, I will slough off and I will
- 21:36Speaker 3: put Patrick Mahomes to pasture at my own risk because
- 21:40Speaker 3: this guy you call you said it, Vick, he's a witch.
- 21:44Speaker 1: He's still a witch. You know.
- 21:45Speaker 2: I was thinking about this. This is the best summer
- 21:48Speaker 2: sports talk fodder you find, just random lists made by people.
- 21:53Speaker 1: We never did that though on this show.
- 21:56Speaker 2: And then we debate the random lists like like it's
- 21:59Speaker 2: the Bible here. And let me be on the record,
- 22:03Speaker 2: I don't care what Jeremy Fowler or the ESPN thinks.
- 22:08Speaker 2: The order of these quarterbacks are to each his own.
- 22:12Speaker 2: I respect what they think is great. All I know
- 22:15Speaker 2: is all of these quarterbacks at any time can be great.
- 22:20Speaker 2: We've seen the best of Patrick Mahomes in this division,
- 22:23Speaker 2: so he's gonna resonate more with us than he would
- 22:25Speaker 2: with the rest of the league because we've seen him more.
- 22:28Speaker 1: Right, I guess my question not so much where he Yeah.
- 22:31Speaker 2: Two of the last three times than the Broncos have
- 22:34Speaker 2: faced Josh Allen, the Broncos have won advantage Broncos. Yeah. Hey,
- 22:42Speaker 2: who was the better quarterback in that game in Denver?
- 22:45Speaker 2: The divisional playoff game? Bo Nicks or Josh Allen. I
- 22:48Speaker 2: that's such a loaded question.
- 22:50Speaker 1: Well it's no, it's bow because he because he didn't
- 22:52Speaker 1: turn the football over. Hey, Josh Allen turned the football.
- 22:54Speaker 2: All four times.
- 22:55Speaker 3: I mean that's bad, right, So that's but I mean,
- 22:57Speaker 3: when you're talking about the freaking production on the feet
- 23:00Speaker 3: old Okay, But I'm just.
- 23:01Speaker 2: Saying we can we can only speak and.
- 23:04Speaker 1: Expect the turnovers. The turnovers did them in. But I'm
- 23:06Speaker 1: telling you what most you're saying is I think every
- 23:10Speaker 1: possession that wasn't a turnover was point. It was points.
- 23:14Speaker 1: It's like it's like saying, hey, what did they punt?
- 23:16Speaker 2: Wait? Do I remember this right? They?
- 23:18Speaker 1: I don't think they punted in that game? Did they Buffalo?
- 23:20Speaker 1: They did?
- 23:20Speaker 3: They didn't. It's like this, You're at the Indy five hundred.
- 23:23Speaker 3: I've got I've got a Toylet Corolla, and you have
- 23:27Speaker 3: an Indy car and you're going two hundred and thirty.
- 23:30Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 23:30Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm just driving arong my Corolla. Right, I'm
- 23:33Speaker 3: all of a sudden, before I know it, I'm nine
- 23:35Speaker 3: laps down. But then you put the the Indy car
- 23:38Speaker 3: to the wall and I just keep driving and I
- 23:39Speaker 3: win the race.
- 23:40Speaker 1: Does it mean my Corolla was better than the Indy car?
- 23:43Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of how it was to me.
- 23:46Speaker 1: So wait, here we go. This was all the possessions
- 23:50Speaker 1: from hay On stay at the top. All the possessions
- 23:52Speaker 1: from Buffalo in the playoff game, touchdown fumble, field goal, fumble, fumble,
- 23:59Speaker 1: touchdown interception, touchdown, field goal, field goal, geez, interception, interception
- 24:06Speaker 1: in overtime?
- 24:07Speaker 2: Yeah, how was that game even close? With all that?
- 24:11Speaker 3: Because Joshua, now, because bring up Allen's numbers, if you
- 24:15Speaker 3: bring up the off bring up the you can bring
- 24:17Speaker 3: up with the team stats if you want to, because they.
- 24:19Speaker 1: Put up four hundred and fifty yards of offense.
- 24:21Speaker 3: That's exactly right for four I think it was four
- 24:24Speaker 3: hundred and fifty six or eight or something like that.
- 24:27Speaker 1: Yeah, so here you go. It's four hundred and forty nine,
- 24:32Speaker 1: forty nine. There you go. That's how.
- 24:34Speaker 2: But but bottom line is, let me ask.
- 24:35Speaker 3: But I mean, the Broncos weren't the Broncos weren't anybody's
- 24:38Speaker 3: little sisters of the poor.
- 24:40Speaker 1: But it's just that that offense is prolific. But let
- 24:43Speaker 1: me ask you to the Mahomes question I have. I'm
- 24:51Speaker 1: not dumb enough to think that Kansas City's run is over.
- 24:54Speaker 1: I think you easily.
- 24:55Speaker 2: You are dumb enough, don't don't You're.
- 24:58Speaker 1: Right, I am dumb enough, just not on this subject.
- 25:00Speaker 1: I'm not coming up. Don's sell yourself short, Brett. I
- 25:03Speaker 1: could totally see them going out winning the AFC West,
- 25:06Speaker 1: being in the AFC Title Game again, making a Super
- 25:09Speaker 1: Bowl appearance, because that's what's happened more often than not
- 25:11Speaker 1: last year. Is the outlier hold on a city. I
- 25:14Speaker 1: did not call Bonix a Toyota Corolla. Stop it. I
- 25:17Speaker 1: was I was over the top to try and.
- 25:22Speaker 2: If you were to assign him a car, think about that.
- 25:23Speaker 2: Finish your thought there.
- 25:26Speaker 1: Okay, so just quickly, I think they could do that.
- 25:29Speaker 1: But I think the days of Kansas City throwing up
- 25:31Speaker 1: thirty three points a game are done. I don't think
- 25:33Speaker 1: they're that offense anymore. They haven't been that for three
- 25:36Speaker 1: straight years and they've done little to improve what's there.
- 25:40Speaker 1: They let Tyreek Hill walk because they said Patrick Mahomes
- 25:43Speaker 1: can make any wide receiver. Well they want. They won
- 25:45Speaker 1: a Super Bowl after they let him walk. And Travis
- 25:49Speaker 1: Kelcey is the main piece of our offense. It's not
- 25:51Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill. So we'll go out and get Xavier Worthy.
- 25:54Speaker 1: He's a fast guy. Well, Xavier Worthy is not Tyreek
- 25:56Speaker 1: Hill because there's more than speed to being a good
- 25:58Speaker 1: wide receiver. You have to run round out, you have
- 26:00Speaker 1: they good hands. That's what made Tyreek Hill great. As
- 26:04Speaker 1: Travis kelce has aged, the Kansas City offense has become
- 26:09Speaker 1: a normal good offense in the league. They have won
- 26:13Speaker 1: a lot of games with their defensive prowess as opposed
- 26:17Speaker 1: to their offensive game. They just also just signed the
- 26:19Speaker 1: Super Bowl winning running back. Take a look at their
- 26:23Speaker 1: whiteouts for me. What you think, agreed? It's Rashid Rice
- 26:27Speaker 1: who knows what's happening with him, and Xavier Worthy who
- 26:29Speaker 1: hasn't proven anything, and Taekwon Thornton's the third best.
- 26:32Speaker 3: That is correct, but again, they also won without Tyreek Hill,
- 26:37Speaker 3: so it can be done.
- 26:38Speaker 1: Uh, Vix, So what were you gonna say here?
- 26:41Speaker 2: I was gonna, yeah, it's silly, ignore what I have
- 26:44Speaker 2: to say. I was going to assign actual cars to it.
- 26:48Speaker 1: I think both. I think I think Bonix is a
- 26:51Speaker 1: nice Toyota four runner.
- 26:53Speaker 2: So just a good four runner, dependable, it'll go for
- 26:57Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy thousand miles, but it but also
- 26:59Speaker 2: look good.
- 27:01Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna I'm gonna give him a
- 27:02Speaker 1: Jimp wrangler, little hybrid. Little you can go a little
- 27:06Speaker 1: bit off road. You can do a little running with it.
- 27:09Speaker 1: You can't with the for the for the Forerunners is
- 27:11Speaker 1: all right, let's start.
- 27:11Speaker 2: Let's start then, all right? What's Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes is.
- 27:18Speaker 1: Like a high end BMW type of thing. Yeah, yeah,
- 27:22Speaker 1: I like that.
- 27:23Speaker 2: I think he's a tesla. He just goes, ran out
- 27:28Speaker 2: of batteries, last year's super charger stlegram and he just goes.
- 27:33Speaker 2: He finds his way. He's a self driver.
- 27:36Speaker 1: Okay, I see that. I like it.
- 27:39Speaker 2: What's Herbert? What's Herbert?
- 27:44Speaker 1: I'll tell you what.
- 27:45Speaker 2: He's a very expensive BMW man. When it goes in
- 27:48Speaker 2: the shop. It's gonna cost you, that is correct.
- 27:50Speaker 1: It's gotta be a foreign car because when when things
- 27:52Speaker 1: go round, it's an expensive fix, an Audi or BMW.
- 27:56Speaker 2: Those things. Man, they're nice, they're sleek, they look beautiful hair,
- 28:00Speaker 2: nice girl.
- 28:00Speaker 3: By the way, it'll get you from here, Yeah, it'll
- 28:02Speaker 3: get you from here to Salt Lake City, but here
- 28:05Speaker 3: to New York.
- 28:07Speaker 2: You go to the shop. Yeah, better payoff. Yep.
- 28:10Speaker 1: Okay, just because we haven't seen him yet, Freanna Mendoza
- 28:13Speaker 1: is absolutely hones, just straight, I know. But it's just
- 28:21Speaker 1: a normal whatever car.
- 28:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 28:25Speaker 1: You tuck your your shirt and your pants, you wear
- 28:28Speaker 1: the polo, you go to work, you do your sales
- 28:30Speaker 1: gig like that's what it is.
- 28:31Speaker 3: Right. Last year, Matt Stafford was a Lambeau. Yeah, that
- 28:38Speaker 3: guy was amazing last season.
- 28:40Speaker 1: I mean what Lamar Jackson's a Maserati Ferrari something like that,
- 28:44Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, Josh Allen's a tank.
- 28:47Speaker 3: Yeah, he's more like he's more like a No, he's
- 28:49Speaker 3: more like a high end Ford Bronco.
- 28:51Speaker 2: No. No, he's that weird tesla, that weird tank looking tesla.
- 28:55Speaker 2: By the way, what the hell.
- 28:56Speaker 3: Is oh you mean the cyber truck, the lego looking thing,
- 29:00Speaker 3: cyber truck.
- 29:01Speaker 2: Yeah, let's all due respect. I mean those folks of
- 29:04Speaker 2: you who drive that, what is that? What are you driving?
- 29:08Speaker 2: You driving like a brick?
- 29:10Speaker 1: What is that?
- 29:12Speaker 2: The hell is that?
- 29:13Speaker 1: Stainless steel brick? I guess Okay, So that's Caleb Williams.
- 29:16Speaker 1: It's new to the market. I don't really know what
- 29:20Speaker 1: to think of it. It's kind of cool, but kind
- 29:22Speaker 1: of weird and awkward. Yeah, I think that's perfect. That's
- 29:28Speaker 1: a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. And let's
- 29:29Speaker 1: keep going through this year. Who else? Who else can
- 29:31Speaker 1: we have? How about what's Jalen Hurts. He's a truck,
- 29:38Speaker 1: He's a Buick Regal.
- 29:39Speaker 2: He's a truck, a truck, he's a He's just one
- 29:42Speaker 2: of those. You know, my dad had a nineteen seventy
- 29:45Speaker 2: nine Chevy. Never gave it up man, just drove it
- 29:47Speaker 2: into the ground. He's just a good truck, reliable, dependable truck.
- 29:52Speaker 2: You name your truck.
- 29:54Speaker 1: What about Baker Mayfield?
- 29:59Speaker 2: Uh, I think he's better than people give him credit for.
- 30:03Speaker 2: So give me a car that's on the market that
- 30:05Speaker 2: people always sort of Yeah.
- 30:07Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you what though. You
- 30:09Speaker 3: want dependable, you want dependable, And I'm not kidding you.
- 30:14Speaker 3: If you get like a nineteen ninety six to like
- 30:18Speaker 3: a two thousand and three buckless Saber, that mother trucker
- 30:23Speaker 3: will run for ever.
- 30:25Speaker 1: Stop everything, I stopped everything. You just said stop. I
- 30:30Speaker 1: was the proud owner of a two thousand and two
- 30:34Speaker 1: Buickless Saber. I'm gonna I'm gonna have to be a
- 30:38Speaker 1: broo moch I was driving it in twenty thirteen. Like
- 30:45Speaker 1: That's exactly what it looked like. That's exactly what it
- 30:47Speaker 1: looked like. I'm here to tell you this right now.
- 30:49Speaker 1: If I were ever homeless, I'm getting this. It's the
- 30:52Speaker 1: most comfortable car I've ever said.
- 30:55Speaker 3: It's crazy, I know it does this. Vic, I'm telling
- 30:58Speaker 3: you you get a ninety nine Buicless. I'm not listen.
- 31:01Speaker 3: Every car is gonna break at some point. They do,
- 31:03Speaker 3: just but the.
- 31:04Speaker 2: Name of it alone is hilarious. This motherless Saber.
- 31:08Speaker 1: Hello to me, Vick. You gotta understand this mother truck.
- 31:11Speaker 1: Speaking of ignorance, Vic, shut up and learn.
- 31:14Speaker 3: This mother trucker is essentially bulletproof. It's you could play
- 31:18Speaker 3: wiffle ball in the mother truck. And if anything goes
- 31:22Speaker 3: wrong with it.
- 31:22Speaker 1: Dude. The parts are cheap and they're a diamond dozen.
- 31:26Speaker 1: They're cheap to work on, they're cheap to fix. Their cheap,
- 31:29Speaker 1: I mean they're inexpensive. Not You want to know the
- 31:31Speaker 1: game that I had. You want to know the game
- 31:34Speaker 1: I had? Sure my wife, my beautiful wife, first date
- 31:38Speaker 1: was picked up in that lessaber, no way, and we
- 31:40Speaker 1: went to Dave and Busters.
- 31:42Speaker 2: That's my kind of game.
- 31:43Speaker 3: I By the way, what do you guys you try
- 31:45Speaker 3: to I found I saw two on the road over
- 31:47Speaker 3: the course last four days. I had to send the picture.
- 31:50Speaker 3: I took a picture, had to send it to my
- 31:51Speaker 3: buddy Todd, right because we you try to find me
- 31:55Speaker 3: a used saber on the market, well you can't find them.
- 31:57Speaker 2: Hey, buddy of mine just texted me on Baker Mayfield.
- 32:00Speaker 2: A good Baker Mayfield comp is a beautiful car with
- 32:03Speaker 2: a salvage title. Do you know what that is? Yes,
- 32:07Speaker 2: that's exactly Baker may Blood. Yeah, but it drives like dude.
- 32:14Speaker 2: By the way, By the way, that's uh. For those
- 32:17Speaker 2: of you who've ever wrecked your car in the insurance companies,
- 32:21Speaker 2: they want to total it and take it away. Don't
- 32:23Speaker 2: do it, fix it up the best you can, and
- 32:25Speaker 2: drive it around with the salvage title. There's nothing wrong
- 32:28Speaker 2: with that, nothing wrong, it's just it.
- 32:30Speaker 1: But it's just when you try to resell it eventually,
- 32:33Speaker 1: no two things real quick. I'm so jealous that you
- 32:38Speaker 1: have a little because I want one.
- 32:39Speaker 2: So I was.
- 32:40Speaker 1: I was so broke. Again they would I was so broke.
- 32:44Speaker 1: I had like five dollars in my checking account. Three
- 32:47Speaker 1: days before pay day, the suspension went out on that
- 32:50Speaker 1: bugle sab and I was like, I just I don't
- 32:52Speaker 1: have the money to fix it. I'd go over a
- 32:54Speaker 1: speed bump. Here's what it looks like, is that that
- 32:57Speaker 1: car is a boat. I went, and then you just
- 33:01Speaker 1: hop like the next like thirty yards. You're just hopping
- 33:04Speaker 1: all the way there.
- 33:06Speaker 3: But if you if you want one, If folks, I'm
- 33:08Speaker 3: telling you right now, it's it's incredible how reliable that
- 33:14Speaker 3: car is. All the mechanic guys will tell you it's
- 33:17Speaker 3: like the best you can find.
- 33:19Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, by the way, is a car that is
- 33:22Speaker 1: supposed to be nice, but it's a piece of junk.
- 33:24Speaker 1: And then he's just put like fake spinning rims on
- 33:27Speaker 1: the side of it.
- 33:28Speaker 2: He dressed it up.
- 33:29Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's honestly, he's probably like sob Yeah,
- 33:34Speaker 3: but like, uh you ever.
- 33:38Speaker 1: These Bentley's like if something goes.
- 33:41Speaker 3: Dude, you gotta like take the whole engine out to
- 33:43Speaker 3: I mean, it ain't worth it.
- 33:44Speaker 1: Yeah. Three h three five four nine two five something.
- 33:48Speaker 1: I'm excited for tonight, but I am conflicted, holy because
- 33:53Speaker 1: of what they've done to our boy Hunter Goodman. Next.
- 33:57Speaker 1: All right, before I get the moser eyrol, I'm gonna
- 33:59Speaker 1: get this out. I still believe that the greatest skills
- 34:02Speaker 1: challenge in all of our sports happens tonight, and that
- 34:05Speaker 1: is the home run derby. Now they've changed the format.
- 34:08Speaker 1: They're going to a swings format instead of timed.
- 34:11Speaker 2: They keep changing the format.
- 34:13Speaker 1: This is better, this is better. So this is twenty
- 34:15Speaker 1: swings in the first round, fifteen in the second, and
- 34:18Speaker 1: ten in the final round.
- 34:19Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter what happens with the ball after
- 34:21Speaker 2: you swing.
- 34:22Speaker 1: Well except for the final swing. If you hit a
- 34:25Speaker 1: home run, your final swing, you go until you don't
- 34:28Speaker 1: get one. I get yeah, I guess you got. You
- 34:30Speaker 1: get more pitches right until you don't hit. But here's
- 34:33Speaker 1: the beauty of it.
- 34:33Speaker 2: They're gonna be looking a lot of pitches too. You
- 34:35Speaker 2: better make sure it's down the middle.
- 34:37Speaker 1: The timed format was not good for one reason. The
- 34:41Speaker 1: whole thing that makes to me the home run derby
- 34:45Speaker 1: what it is. It's not so much hitting the amount
- 34:48Speaker 1: of home runs. It's if show Hey puts one in
- 34:51Speaker 1: the party deck, I want to see it. But they
- 34:53Speaker 1: would always cut back to the plate because they're trying
- 34:56Speaker 1: to go fast.
- 34:57Speaker 2: Not only that, baseball is a non time sport. There's
- 35:00Speaker 2: except for the pitch clock.
- 35:02Speaker 3: A battery sits in the box and hits the ball
- 35:04Speaker 3: that you shouldn't have a clock on how many you
- 35:07Speaker 3: hit right and take his time.
- 35:09Speaker 1: So what I I think I'm gonna love about tonight
- 35:12Speaker 1: is you're gonna see the ball in its total flight path.
- 35:14Speaker 1: Remember back in the day when Burman would go back, back, back,
- 35:17Speaker 1: back back, like you couldn't do that in the time
- 35:19Speaker 1: to format because you didn't see what the ball landed
- 35:21Speaker 1: because it's pitch, pitch, pitch, your point pitch. So I
- 35:24Speaker 1: like this, but I'm conflicted because they've done my boy dirty.
- 35:29Speaker 3: They really did it, especially somebody who wants to be there,
- 35:33Speaker 3: wants to participate.
- 35:34Speaker 1: He's already going to the All Star Game anyway. Hunter
- 35:38Speaker 1: Goodman is sixth in the MLB and home runs. Why
- 35:40Speaker 1: is he not in this?
- 35:41Speaker 3: I don't know, I I Brett. There's no roll coming
- 35:45Speaker 3: from me. He got screwed.
- 35:47Speaker 1: So it's just another pox on baseball itself. Period. Let
- 35:50Speaker 1: me NERD do baseball nerd for a second. It's the
- 35:54Speaker 1: same argument I had last year. Remember when the al
- 35:57Speaker 1: MVP race came down to Aaron Judge and col Rawley,
- 36:00Speaker 1: and statistically it was Aaron Judge who should have been
- 36:03Speaker 1: the MVP. He did end up winning, but I said,
- 36:06Speaker 1: you need to give cal Rawley an extra bump considering
- 36:09Speaker 1: he's doing this as a catcher. And I want to
- 36:12Speaker 1: explain to people what being a catcher is like. I
- 36:14Speaker 1: did it twice. It's miserable. Never want to do it again.
- 36:18Speaker 1: You're wearing baseballs off the chest, neck, shins, knees, hands, fingers, everything, it.
- 36:24Speaker 2: Hurts, and you're crouching for three hours.
- 36:26Speaker 1: Well, and this is what I wanted to get to
- 36:28Speaker 1: for anybody who.
- 36:29Speaker 3: Says, can I back you up on that for a
- 36:31Speaker 3: second again? I would catch Sometimes I'd put the equipment
- 36:34Speaker 3: on a VP right.
- 36:35Speaker 1: Just just as because I don't do. I was never
- 36:38Speaker 1: a catcher loo because you can't throw.
- 36:41Speaker 3: I was a pitcher in an dude, I did it all,
- 36:44Speaker 3: but I did not catch.
- 36:45Speaker 2: Would you throw Thephis pitch?
- 36:46Speaker 1: No, for Christ's sake, it's a good pitch.
- 36:49Speaker 3: So the point is that all you need to do
- 36:52Speaker 3: is take one off the like square in the mask,
- 36:55Speaker 3: a foul tip off the mask, a foul tip off
- 36:58Speaker 3: the nether region.
- 37:00Speaker 1: I bring off the tip of a finger and tell
- 37:01Speaker 1: me how that feels.
- 37:02Speaker 3: I mean, any foul tip that hits you. It's a
- 37:07Speaker 3: fankless position. But more than that, moment sucks. Are you
- 37:10Speaker 3: catchers out there, God bless you, because it sucks.
- 37:12Speaker 1: You're wearing keep this up there by the way, baka,
- 37:15Speaker 1: thank you. You're wearing the mask, you're wearing, the chest protector,
- 37:18Speaker 1: the shin pads, all that stuff. The average number of
- 37:20Speaker 1: pitches in an MLB game is one hundred and forty
- 37:24Speaker 1: six for one team. Games take about two and a
- 37:27Speaker 1: half hours. Here's what I want people to do at home.
- 37:28Speaker 1: If you're listening, getting a crouch stance for nine to
- 37:31Speaker 1: ten seconds, one hundred and forty six times in the
- 37:34Speaker 1: next two and a half hours, and tell me how
- 37:36Speaker 1: you feel just by doing that, not wearing baseballs off
- 37:40Speaker 1: the face and the chest and all that stuff. Just
- 37:41Speaker 1: tell me how you feel. Now, imagine doing that and
- 37:44Speaker 1: hitting the sixth most home runs in the MLB at
- 37:47Speaker 1: this point in the season and being.
- 37:49Speaker 2: X out of this screwed. I mean, they let the
- 37:52Speaker 2: big dumper do it last year, So it's not like
- 37:54Speaker 2: catchers don't why not?
- 37:56Speaker 1: But they got a dude in here, you know, with
- 37:58Speaker 1: fifteen Jacklin one has fifteen homers? What are we doing here?
- 38:01Speaker 1: Get them out? That's Hunter Goodman. Spot all the other guys.
- 38:05Speaker 1: I see the argument for Schwarber, Rice Camonarow, all those guys,
- 38:09Speaker 1: top home run getters in the league. Walker, Okay, guy's
- 38:13Speaker 1: been in the league for a couple of years, got
- 38:14Speaker 1: some bombs. Throw him in there. Contreras, get a Boston
- 38:16Speaker 1: guy in sure, Bryce Harper always fun Murakami remember how
- 38:21Speaker 1: good he was to start the year with his bombs? Yep,
- 38:24Speaker 1: techy and nohen they can go. Fifteen home runs? Does
- 38:27Speaker 1: not belong in here? Okay, twenty seven homers.
- 38:30Speaker 2: How do they make their decisions? What is it based on?
- 38:33Speaker 2: Do do they talk to you? Like in the NBA?
- 38:35Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you. I'll let you in a little something.
- 38:36Speaker 2: When it comes to the dunk contest and skills challenges
- 38:39Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Agents play a big role in
- 38:41Speaker 2: that big role in pushing for their guys.
- 38:44Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 38:48Speaker 3: Ai, it's through a combination of MLB invitations, voluntary player commitments,
- 38:53Speaker 3: and fan popularity.
- 38:55Speaker 1: Who the hell wants this Kansas City royal in there?
- 38:59Speaker 2: Well the rest of the country. You might say, who
- 39:00Speaker 2: is who is Goodman?
- 39:02Speaker 1: He's a catcher with twenty seven.
- 39:04Speaker 2: We know he is.
- 39:05Speaker 3: We know, Hey, you know what, Vic, he's our guy,
- 39:09Speaker 3: all right, But it's it's more than just he's our guy.
- 39:12Speaker 1: He is, but not that, not only that.
- 39:16Speaker 3: And he's an All Star, yes, but he wants he
- 39:19Speaker 3: wants to do it. He's an All Star and he
- 39:21Speaker 3: had his old man ready to go to pitching. I mean,
- 39:24Speaker 3: he had it all like Brett. It's right, he was
- 39:26Speaker 3: prepping with his dad, who wants to do it, And
- 39:30Speaker 3: you're you're you're nixing him.
- 39:31Speaker 2: I can't be. You're in the All Star Game. If
- 39:34Speaker 2: you're playing in the All Star Game, that should automatically
- 39:37Speaker 2: get you entry.
- 39:38Speaker 1: Are you already there?
- 39:39Speaker 2: Yeah? That should be an automatic entry. Like if I'm
- 39:42Speaker 2: in the All Star Game as a member of the team,
- 39:45Speaker 2: and I want to participate. Okay, you're in.
- 39:50Speaker 1: So I I will watch tonight. But that still makes
- 39:53Speaker 1: me incredibly upset.
- 39:55Speaker 2: Ask me if I'm gonna watch, are you gonna watch?
- 39:57Speaker 1: Ell? No, come on, it's at least the first round.
- 40:01Speaker 1: As it goes on, I get tuning out a little bit.
- 40:03Speaker 1: The first round is always a blast. You know what
- 40:05Speaker 1: I'm bummed about? Vick?
- 40:07Speaker 3: Tell me, I did all my laundry over the weekend,
- 40:12Speaker 3: so I can't use the excuse what I've got laundry
- 40:13Speaker 3: to do instead, And I can't fold laundry while I
- 40:15Speaker 3: have this home run der beyond in the background.
- 40:19Speaker 1: So what I'm gonna do just turn it on and watch.
- 40:21Speaker 1: It's what you should do.
- 40:22Speaker 2: So you just spent thirty seconds talking about your excies. Yeah,
- 40:28Speaker 2: your laundry just quickly here.
- 40:32Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw the Rockies got
- 40:36Speaker 1: for whatever this means, praise over their draft over the weekend. Now,
- 40:42Speaker 1: there was a couple of interesting things to this. They
- 40:44Speaker 1: took twelve pictures, which is always I think a smart idea,
- 40:48Speaker 1: but their first pick was a shortstop sort of a
- 40:51Speaker 1: college MLB ready made shortstop when they already have holiday
- 40:56Speaker 1: in the system, and you're like, okay, stops first round
- 41:00Speaker 1: back to back years. Interesting. They also took two catchers
- 41:04Speaker 1: really early in the draft, and I get you got
- 41:06Speaker 1: to fill out your farm system, but I couldn't help
- 41:08Speaker 1: being like, you better not be taking catchers because Hunter
- 41:12Speaker 1: Goodman is going to be on the market. That better
- 41:14Speaker 1: not be why we're doing this.
- 41:15Speaker 3: I think you do it with the value of the
- 41:17Speaker 3: player that at this position we've scouted this guy to be.
- 41:22Speaker 3: Jeff Legwold will tell you that in football too, when
- 41:25Speaker 3: you get into some of those rounds, Yeah, the value
- 41:28Speaker 3: is even if you don't really have a need at
- 41:30Speaker 3: that point, the value of that player is too good
- 41:34Speaker 3: to pass up on. So maybe maybe that's where they
- 41:37Speaker 3: went with Tyler Bell at at number ten overall.
- 41:41Speaker 1: As we got a couple of minutes before we go
- 41:43Speaker 1: to break, I do want to show you guys this video.
- 41:45Speaker 1: Is this somebody you think the Nuggets should sign to
- 41:48Speaker 1: be a backup big to Joker? This is seven foot
- 41:51Speaker 1: nine Hamad, a Blurish who plays for Egypt. Jeez good,
- 41:57Speaker 1: He's doing a tip dunk while standing on his tiptoe.
- 42:01Speaker 1: Is this something we want on the roster?
- 42:03Speaker 2: No? Let me come on, look at that.
- 42:09Speaker 3: That's you know what that is, right? You know what
- 42:11Speaker 3: that is. That's a breathing apartment building.
- 42:14Speaker 2: That's what that is.
- 42:15Speaker 1: Come on, that's insane.
- 42:17Speaker 5: Have you ever seen somebody hang on the rim with
- 42:18Speaker 5: his feet on the We're talking about genetics here, and
- 42:22Speaker 5: I mean, how could you imagine me trying to interview
- 42:26Speaker 5: that guy after a game?
- 42:29Speaker 2: You know, it's great.
- 42:32Speaker 1: I think his only highlights are this.
- 42:34Speaker 2: I think this is all he said.
- 42:35Speaker 1: So they gave us. He just stands in a hoop,
- 42:40Speaker 1: takes a tip on his tiptoes and gently lays it
- 42:44Speaker 1: over the rim.
- 42:45Speaker 3: That isn't That is an airport control tower that consumes food.
- 42:50Speaker 1: That's what that is. That's not that's not a regular human,
- 42:55Speaker 1: That's true.
- 42:56Speaker 2: He's so bad for that fellow. He doesn't want to
- 42:57Speaker 2: be that tall.
- 43:00Speaker 1: He doesn't want to know nobody wants to be.
- 43:02Speaker 3: And you can make a little bread and and play
- 43:06Speaker 3: for your country while doing it. I mean make you know,
- 43:08Speaker 3: you make make lemonade out of lemons.
- 43:10Speaker 1: I suppose legitimately, what else do you do with your
- 43:15Speaker 1: life if you're seven foot nine.
- 43:16Speaker 2: You can't play golf.
- 43:18Speaker 1: We'll think about this. You can't even you can't be
- 43:21Speaker 1: a sales guy.
- 43:22Speaker 2: How do you ride a bike?
- 43:25Speaker 3: I don't know, man, you know the first time, the
- 43:28Speaker 3: years and years, here's where.
- 43:29Speaker 2: Every sales pitch goes. Would you like to buy this?
- 43:33Speaker 1: Jesus, you're huge every time.
- 43:36Speaker 3: The first time I grabbed Hastings pitching wedge. Oh yeah,
- 43:41Speaker 3: I'm like, it feels like it feels like a driver.
- 43:45Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it's Scott and Scotty can Scotty
- 43:49Speaker 3: can play.
- 43:49Speaker 1: But it was like so long. I'm like, oh my god,
- 43:54Speaker 1: where did you know? Where?
- 43:55Speaker 2: How do you get this club made? Who makes this?
- 43:57Speaker 1: How do you write?
- 43:58Speaker 2: He doesn't.
- 43:58Speaker 1: He doesn't even look happy doing no. There's no celebration
- 44:01Speaker 1: after a dunk. It's like, I just have to do this.
- 44:04Speaker 2: Curse me with eight feet? Here we go this fall?
- 44:08Speaker 2: You know what a ball? I'll put it in the
- 44:09Speaker 2: little basket. What do you want?
- 44:11Speaker 1: He's surprisingly, like evenly built for being seven foot nine.
- 44:16Speaker 2: You know, he could be a bouncer for life anywhere.
- 44:20Speaker 2: Think about that?
- 44:21Speaker 1: Amazing, don't did? You?
- 44:22Speaker 3: Guys just want to see him try to guard Wemby though,
- 44:25Speaker 3: just like a couple of plays or the other way around.
- 44:27Speaker 2: Wenby would get Wemby would look but he would look small.
- 44:29Speaker 1: Though, Wendy would look small next to me, right about
- 44:32Speaker 1: that half a foot shorter. You know.
- 44:34Speaker 2: I was watching some of those highlights from the Nuggets
- 44:36Speaker 2: newest signee, Alpha Diallo, defensive player of the Year in
- 44:39Speaker 2: the EuroLeague, and they showed him go up against Wemby
- 44:41Speaker 2: a couple of times, and he went past Wemby for
- 44:43Speaker 2: a dunk and he looked great. I wonder now, with
- 44:47Speaker 2: the Nuggets reaching out to the euro League, if this
- 44:50Speaker 2: is sort of a wave of the future. Is the
- 44:52Speaker 2: European League getting that much better to where NBA teams
- 44:56Speaker 2: can pick and choose certain players to fill certain needs,
- 44:59Speaker 2: like is he going rotational player here or end of
- 45:02Speaker 2: the bench player. Yeah, that's a great question because if
- 45:05Speaker 2: he fills the if he fills the Spencer Jones spot,
- 45:09Speaker 2: which I don't know if they're gonna proceed with Spencer Jones,
- 45:12Speaker 2: but let's say he is the Spencer Jones guy, He'll
- 45:14Speaker 2: be in the rotation.
- 45:15Speaker 1: Sure, here you will, Vick I.
- 45:18Speaker 3: I've got to be honest, I don't remember him as
- 45:20Speaker 3: a high school player here in Denver.
- 45:22Speaker 2: I do he played at West High School when they
- 45:24Speaker 2: had a couple of seasons there, they went to the tournament,
- 45:27Speaker 2: and I.
- 45:27Speaker 3: Think they had a couple had a couple of pretty
- 45:29Speaker 3: good runs right in the state Attorney, and then when
- 45:31Speaker 3: he moved to New York.
- 45:32Speaker 1: Correct, I don't know what happened after that. Okay, he
- 45:36Speaker 1: went to Providence, right, I don't know.
- 45:39Speaker 3: I really I have no idea what his game looks like,
- 45:43Speaker 3: so I can't really answer you.
- 45:45Speaker 2: He's a slasher, he can jump quickly. He's six seven.
- 45:49Speaker 2: He's again defensive player of the Year in European League.
- 45:51Speaker 2: And and one thing about the euro League, it's a
- 45:53Speaker 2: much more physical brand. They beat the crap out of
- 45:57Speaker 2: each other just quickly.
- 45:59Speaker 1: Before somebody says altitude bias with Hunter Goodman. Well, if
- 46:03Speaker 1: somebody was making these decisions for the home run Derbuty participants,
- 46:07Speaker 1: says Hunter Goodman, an argument against him is because he
- 46:10Speaker 1: plays in altitude. I want to publicly shame this person
- 46:13Speaker 1: because out of the twenty seven home runs hit by
- 46:15Speaker 1: Hunter Goodman this year, eighteen are.
- 46:17Speaker 2: On the road.
- 46:18Speaker 1: Yep, eighteen yep. Alright, so a lot more to get
- 46:21Speaker 1: two Stagram