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CANDIACE DILLARD BASSETT: Traitors, Unfollowing Porsha, and a #RHOP Return? · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 2: With the King.
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  Speaker 1: I love her album Honey is it serious? I see
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  Speaker 1: you and I'm still hard give it up for the
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  Speaker 1: Candace Billard Bassett.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, good morning, Yah clapping, Yeah we can do a round?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yes, lah blah blah blauses. Yes, isn't clapping, but
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  Speaker 2: the hands are the hands.
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  Speaker 3: Are well, Yes, we'll clap now.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh.
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  Speaker 3: Jet gave me a little extra he did, and we
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  Speaker 3: thank him.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, so your son gave you a little cake?
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  Speaker 3: A little yet, just a little bit?
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  Speaker 1: Is it?
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  Speaker 2: Poundcake? A twinkie?
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  Speaker 3: What's a twinkie? It's oh a twinkie. Oh no, I
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  Speaker 3: would say a poundcake, a pound cake. Chris would say poundcake.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Is Chris, you know, enjoying it very much? He does
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  Speaker 3: not pass behind without doing a little too little grab
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  Speaker 3: Ooh it's a fun place. I'm enjoying the postpartum body.
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  Speaker 3: Postpartum is ghetto. Postpartum body is five stars.
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  Speaker 2: Why is postpartum ghetto?
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's because you don't know what It's
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  Speaker 3: like a mixed bag of nonsense and foolery and just
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  Speaker 3: and hood nonsense. It's foolishness. I don't know if I
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  Speaker 3: haven't told you this, but I've talked about it publicly.
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  Speaker 3: Post jet. Like three days post jet, I experienced a
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  Speaker 3: blood clot in my left ovary. Yes, these things, these
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  Speaker 3: kill people. They take the people to the king, not
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  Speaker 3: to but the other kids.
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  Speaker 2: The king.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, like women will like check out from what I had,
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  Speaker 3: like my So we were we went to a postpartum
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  Speaker 3: retreat and then we were there for like four days.
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  Speaker 3: Went home. I began to feel high fever, excruciating pain
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  Speaker 3: in my lower left abdomen, and I just I didn't
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  Speaker 3: know what it was. And I wasn't like dialed in
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  Speaker 3: really because I was focused on like, oh, the baby,
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  Speaker 3: and I think I was just also just out of it.
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  Speaker 3: I was having night sweats, which nobody told me about.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody is fired because nobody told me about the night sweats,
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  Speaker 3: like drenched in sweat. And my dad is a physician.
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  Speaker 3: He was in Ecuador on vacation. He happened to call
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  Speaker 3: to check in and I was like, yeah, I'm having
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  Speaker 3: these pains, and I'm it was so bad. I could
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  Speaker 3: not function without like doubling up on prescription tailan law
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  Speaker 3: and advil just to be able to sit up. I
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  Speaker 3: couldn't even change my postpartum diaper. I couldn't even bend
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  Speaker 3: over to lift my legs up. It was that I
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  Speaker 3: was like on the floor trying to like throw the
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  Speaker 3: diaper and grab it with.
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  Speaker 2: My foot on my poolage.
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  Speaker 3: Horrible. My dad was like, you need to go to
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  Speaker 3: the er. And my dad is the kind of doctor
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  Speaker 3: who is not He's not like medicine. He's very much
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  Speaker 3: like let's triage, let's figure this out. And get you
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  Speaker 3: out of the hospital. We don't want you in here.
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  Speaker 3: So for my dad to say go to the hospital,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god. He didn't say what
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  Speaker 3: it was. And then I talked to my sister in law.
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  Speaker 3: She tells me later, yeah, Tyler, my net Tyler's teacher
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  Speaker 3: died from this. My friend Adrian's co worker died from this.
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  Speaker 2: Having a blood ci on they're ovary, yes or just.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Blood clot, a postpartum.
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  Speaker 1: Blood clot, a post Also women after giving birth, these
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  Speaker 1: people died, yes, courteousy of the Pols.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, So I had lost like a leader of blood.
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  Speaker 3: You only have five. I lost a whole leader. And
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  Speaker 3: I remember, like Chris told me later that like there
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  Speaker 3: was blood like shooting out of me. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: why do you tell me that? No, like post like
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  Speaker 3: after I gave birth, and they're like, I had a
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  Speaker 3: tear so I was being sewn up and he's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: there was like blood shooting everywhere, and I was like, oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: So then.
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  Speaker 3: They put Jet on my chest because I wanted to
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  Speaker 3: do the it's called the Golden Hour. They put him
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  Speaker 3: on my chest and I wanted to just like be
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  Speaker 3: naked and have him on my chest and try to
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  Speaker 3: breast try to breastfeed, and I I began to feel
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  Speaker 3: like hypoglycemic, like lightheaded, and just like I was going
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  Speaker 3: to pass out, and it was so bad. I had
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  Speaker 3: to give the baby to Chris and they had to
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  Speaker 3: give me fluids and that went away. But I feel
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  Speaker 3: like that was kind of the beginning of it.
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  Speaker 1: And how many months after giving birth did you have
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  Speaker 1: these inscrutating pains and you have to take yourself to
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  Speaker 1: your A.
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  Speaker 3: Week, a week and a half, week and a half. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I gave birth on October third. We went to the
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  Speaker 3: postpartum retreat. We were there for four days. We got
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  Speaker 3: home on the fifth day. I started feeling like hot,
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  Speaker 3: purple garbage. Yeah, it was horrible. It was horrible. And
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  Speaker 3: then so then I go to the doctor, they do
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  Speaker 3: a cat scan, I go home. They call me the
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  Speaker 3: next day and they never when they call, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's like, okay, ring the alarms, because usually they'll just
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  Speaker 3: send it to you in an email. The results like
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  Speaker 3: you have a blood clot, you need to be put
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  Speaker 3: on anti coagulants, blood thinners. For ten weeks. I had
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  Speaker 3: to give myself subcutaneous shots in my abdomen every day
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  Speaker 3: for ten weeks. And thank god, God knows what he's doing.
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  Speaker 3: Thank god I had already done IVF shots because minister
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  Speaker 3: how to do that. I was a pro adic because
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  Speaker 3: I hated needles, but I knew how to do it.
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  Speaker 3: Because it's like, oh, I did this like a hundred
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  Speaker 3: times just to get the baby here, so cool, that's nothing.
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  Speaker 3: And I had to do that every day for ten weeks.
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  Speaker 3: And so then I'm like grappling with like my mortality,
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  Speaker 3: like I just had a baby, and I would if
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  Speaker 3: I'm about to die, Like I could die and won't
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  Speaker 3: even know me. It was. It was like the wildest
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  Speaker 3: mind fuck of life.
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  Speaker 2: Ghetto, no canvas. You almost die.
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  Speaker 3: I could have died. Women die from what I had. Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and I and I and I had the best doctors.
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  Speaker 3: I had the best care. I was going to the
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  Speaker 3: doctor every week from the beginning of my pregnancy, because
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  Speaker 3: after thirty five you're considered geriatric. So I was an
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  Speaker 3: old bitch, and so they wanted and then because I
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  Speaker 3: was an IVF geriatric pregnancy, they wanted to really monitor
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  Speaker 3: me jet his growth. So I was every week and
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  Speaker 3: and I have. I'm healthy. I worked out, I was
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  Speaker 3: leg pressing double my weight three days before I gave birth.
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  Speaker 3: I worked out my whole pice. I was healthy. I
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  Speaker 3: was healthy.
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  Speaker 1: So do they know how the blood clot even happened? No?
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  Speaker 3: No, I mean there there was speculation that because part
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  Speaker 3: of my placenta is supposed to detach naturally and part
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  Speaker 3: of it didn't detach, and they think maybe it was
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  Speaker 3: something to do with that, but we I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: and I really didn't. I never kind of went back
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  Speaker 3: and like investigated why, because life just kind of kept
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  Speaker 3: moving and I was just happy to, you know, go
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  Speaker 3: get rescanned and find out the clot is resolved. You
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  Speaker 3: can resume your normal life.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, I'm happy you brought this up because the mortality
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  Speaker 1: rate for Black women who give birth, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: know the statistics is not favorable, unfortunately, and that's why
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to black women giving birth who went
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  Speaker 1: through the IVA process and or have a set of
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  Speaker 1: twins or more, it's it's very scary in the room.
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  Speaker 1: And I know lots of black women who this is
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  Speaker 1: this is this is the reality for them. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: grateful number one that you're here. But I'm also grateful
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  Speaker 1: that you allowed this audience to hear about your experience
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  Speaker 1: so they can understand, you know, to check those things
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  Speaker 1: out where there's a stroke, es, a blood clot. These
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  Speaker 1: are things that aren't talked about enough. We know about
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  Speaker 1: hobble up pressure all that, yeah, but blood cloths are
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  Speaker 1: a real thing, and it's.
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  Speaker 3: Just it's like, listen to your body. Because I had symptoms.
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  Speaker 3: I had a high fever and I had excruciating pain.
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  Speaker 3: That's not normal postpartum. I didn't. If you have I
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  Speaker 3: didn't have a c section, you will have lower abdomen pain.
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  Speaker 3: I had a very beautiful, normal vaginal birth. I labored beautifully.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't in a lot of pain. It was I
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  Speaker 3: had an amazing experience until until then everything else I
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  Speaker 3: would do all over again. It was amazing. But it
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  Speaker 3: really is just about listening to your body. Your body
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  Speaker 3: will tell you yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, listen. Thank God for that. Yes, thank God for you,
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  Speaker 2: because lits seny. We need canvas in the basket around y'all.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all, oh, we're not ready with you yet. We're a mess.
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  Speaker 3: We mean we're a mess.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, but I haven't you know, this is our first time,
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  Speaker 1: meaning face and phase which is crazy, which is wild.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, rain jobs.
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  Speaker 1: She is more gorgeous in person, and I mean that
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  Speaker 1: the face is facing, the wig is wigging in a
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  Speaker 1: good way, the outfit is offering. She is a your stunner.
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  Speaker 1: You are beautiful, Carlos.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to flood.
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  Speaker 2: Now you are.
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  Speaker 1: I see why Chris is grabbing your ass, well not
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  Speaker 1: the asses of others.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, hello, listen, we are anti ass grabbed. This says
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  Speaker 3: a ring on it. Okay, he's put in the work
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  Speaker 3: to grab this ass.
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  Speaker 2: How is Chris doing?
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  Speaker 3: He's wonderful. He is work. So he was recently promoted
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  Speaker 3: to like a like a regional area director at his
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  Speaker 3: restaurant group. So now he's overseeing a bunch of restaurants,
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  Speaker 3: which is a lot less work because he was restaurants
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  Speaker 3: are as you may know, just grueling, strenuous, you are
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  Speaker 3: always at work even when you're not at work. And
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  Speaker 3: this position, I feel like he's finally kind of settled
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  Speaker 3: in and not constantly ripping and running and cussing. And
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  Speaker 3: because when we first met, I joke all the time
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  Speaker 3: he kicked a door in and I was like, this
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  Speaker 3: white man is crazy, Like this is. I didn't really
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  Speaker 3: know him that well. We were working together, so he
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  Speaker 3: was always stressed. It's a very high stress environment. This
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  Speaker 3: time in his chapter in his career is where he
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  Speaker 3: is supposed to be, and he's thriving there and he's
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  Speaker 3: loved there. He'd been at this restaurant group before left
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  Speaker 3: to open Myron Mixin's to he wanted to be an owner,
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  Speaker 3: and then that closed in the pandemic and found his
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  Speaker 3: way back to Titan Hospitality and he is he's thriving there.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations.
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  Speaker 1: And I know because that's his passion food, food, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I know that that's something
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  Speaker 1: he takes very seriously. He's on TikTok doing things.
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  Speaker 3: Too, So on the TikTok, he's on the Instagram all
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  Speaker 3: the platforms doing He's doing this new thing now where
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  Speaker 3: he has like a bell and it's like ding order
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  Speaker 3: up and then he does like a like a like
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  Speaker 3: a I don't know, like a counter like he puts
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  Speaker 3: the food over the counter and it like tells you,
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  Speaker 3: like what the meal is, and he makes the meal
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  Speaker 3: for the people and then I get to eat the meal.
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  Speaker 3: So we are all happy about that.
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  Speaker 2: I love that for you listen, you are a wife,
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  Speaker 2: a mom.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, And before we get into all of your success
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: your endeavors, what is life like for you for canvas
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  Speaker 1: dealer basset? You know this spoiled honey? You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, as the world likes to call you, you know,
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: nipple baby, Yes, puby ones. I was gonna say all
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  Speaker 1: my range jaws know I'm obsessed with rich black kids.
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  Speaker 2: Why not?
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  Speaker 3: Because we all want to be Who doesn't want to
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  Speaker 3: have a coin. I will never understand why you are
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  Speaker 3: mad at me for having a coin, Like, let's get
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  Speaker 3: you some Let's let's work on building generational wealth for
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  Speaker 3: our our crotch goblins, our children. Yes, not crotch cop
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  Speaker 3: hep up across.
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  Speaker 2: From my crotch.
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  Speaker 3: He came right up out of there.
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  Speaker 1: Have you seen the episode Meriton Medicine where doctor Simone
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  Speaker 1: had the conversation with her son Michael.
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  Speaker 3: We talked about it on my podcast Undomesticated.
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  Speaker 1: Which I'll watch, By the way, you do, I love you,
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  Speaker 1: Michael feeling isn't Michael crazy?
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  Speaker 2: I love Michael. I love you guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So the thing is, like, what are your thoughts
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  Speaker 2: on that?
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  Speaker 1: Because you know, he's twenty two years old. He spent
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  Speaker 1: sixty thousand dollars in one year her credit card. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and he wanted.
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  Speaker 2: A new car.
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  Speaker 1: He had a Jeep, but she bought him a Tesla. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I'm the snapping at him. H ninety nine point nine
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  Speaker 1: percent in the world was on her side. Who's side
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  Speaker 1: are you on in that situation?
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  Speaker 3: I'm on our ancestors side, okay, because this is their
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  Speaker 3: wildest dreams. Okay, Okay, listen, let's let's go back. Let's
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  Speaker 3: do so our history here. Okay, this country, the backs
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  Speaker 3: of slaves, okay, is what this country was built on.
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  Speaker 3: And when they were toiling in the trenches, I can
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  Speaker 3: imagine that they were yet dreaming of the day they
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  Speaker 3: probably couldn't even dream of of of a black Nepo
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  Speaker 3: baby like you know, like the likes of me, the
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  Speaker 3: likes of Michael, the likes of any Blue Ivy, Blue Ivy,
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  Speaker 3: all of them, all of them, all of them, you know, Laurie, Yes, hey, hey,
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  Speaker 3: uncle Steve, Yes, it is, it is, it is. It
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  Speaker 3: is otherworldly for our ancestors and so and you know,
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  Speaker 3: I when I'm listening to Simon because I love when
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  Speaker 3: she be cackling and hollering and carrying on, and that
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  Speaker 3: mouth get to going and she just I love it
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  Speaker 3: because cuss them out someone they everybody deserves it. You
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  Speaker 3: heard it here first. It reminds me of my mom.
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  Speaker 3: And the dynamic between Simone and her children is parallel
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  Speaker 3: in many ways to that of myself and my siblings.
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  Speaker 3: Where she gonna fuss, she gonna cuss and carry on,
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  Speaker 3: but you know she's gonna read the credit card statement
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  Speaker 3: and see, okay, why did you spend fifteen thousand dollars
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  Speaker 3: on this? Get out my face? Because you know, my
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  Speaker 3: parents didn't come from a whole lot. My parents are
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  Speaker 3: the first in their families to be as successful as
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  Speaker 3: they are, to have advanced degrees, to go to medical school,
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  Speaker 3: to become millionaires.
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  Speaker 2: So hell yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And Simone has every right to say what she's gonna say,
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  Speaker 3: and you need that. You need that to balance out
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: what can sometimes become delusion, which can then lead, I think,
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  Speaker 3: to a handicap for us. But those kids know, they
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  Speaker 3: know what they have, they know how blessed they are,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't think for a second they take it
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  Speaker 3: for granted. Those are just from my purview, that is
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  Speaker 3: how I see it.
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  Speaker 1: What advice though, now that you're a mom, what advice
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  Speaker 1: do you give black parents, Because a lot of black
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  Speaker 1: parents are first six figures seven figure earners in their families,
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  Speaker 1: and they are raising children who feel like they are
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  Speaker 1: entitled to their parents' money. You know, is they're a
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  Speaker 1: sort of like rule they should live by so that
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  Speaker 1: the child doesn't grow up thinking like I am entitled
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  Speaker 1: to what you have, and that child is handicap because
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  Speaker 1: they don't have these struggle figuring things out on their own.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think they're I mean my parents still I
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  Speaker 3: still worked. I worked in my parents' office. I had
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  Speaker 3: to earn my keep in the office, and when I
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  Speaker 3: didn't do what I was told, I got fired, Like
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  Speaker 3: my mother fired me from the office and I had
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: to like work my way back to being able to
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: come back to work. I also think it's situational based
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  Speaker 3: on the person. And every family is gonna have one fool,
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  Speaker 3: and we have a fool in our family. I love
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  Speaker 3: my brother, but we have a fool. Every family has
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  Speaker 3: a fool. My sister and I we always worked. I
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  Speaker 3: think growing up I saw my parents work, and even
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  Speaker 3: though they were able to provide you know, an excess
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  Speaker 3: for us. I saw them get up go to My
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: mother built her practice from scratch. I watched her, you know,
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  Speaker 3: sell avon. I watched her sell what is it was
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  Speaker 3: it called specialty, specialty merchandise. It was like these trinkets
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  Speaker 3: that you would get like a big thick book and
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  Speaker 3: it had like, you know, all the aunties would have
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  Speaker 3: like the black love statues in the house. That was
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  Speaker 3: like a company you could buy all that. My mother
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  Speaker 3: like sold that stuff. She had a dress shop, and
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  Speaker 3: I worked in the dress shop. I did inventory, and
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  Speaker 3: I wrung up customers, and I helped like build the
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  Speaker 3: the displays in the in the in the windows. And
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: then she started her practice and she there are so
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: many we have our hairline because of my mom. Like
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: the entrepreneurial spirit that she has, whether I wanted it
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: to or not, has rubbed off on me and my
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: sister and my brother too. He's just the boy. He's
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: the only boy, and he thinks like a boy. But
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: I think it's situational, and I think it is the
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: responsibility of the parents to start early and teach her
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: children about money, teach them about stocks, teach them, you know,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: how to open an IRA and how the stock market works.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Those are all things that my mom taught me very
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: early and how important education is. I value education so
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: much because I watched my parents get My mom was
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: going to school to get her masters. We were living
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: in Biloxi and it was just me and her and
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: my dad had divorced already, and she would leave me
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: with a babysitter three nights a week and drive from
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Biloxi to where Southern in New Orleans Southern. She would
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: drive to New Orleans to get her masters. And like that,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: I could never erase that from my memory, like I
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: could never not. I feel like I have to honor that,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: like I got my MBA, because I felt like I
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: need to honor the work that my parents put in
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: all of them, my mom, my dad, and my stepparents.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: They're all professionals with advanced degrees. I have to honor that.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: And then I need to give my children a benchmark.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: This is what you can do, and then you can
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: go further than this. But I want you to at
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: least see your ceiling is high. You can do anything
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: you want, regardless of how you look. Because my son
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: looks black, and everybody's gonna have something to say because
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: I spoke about having a fear of how I would
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: raise a light skinned child, and he is light brown,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: but he looks like a black a young a young man,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: a young black man, and so I want him to
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: see you black boy can be whoever you want to be.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Here here are the examples.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Do your parents will give you money? Yeah? Is it
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: a monthly allowance by week?
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: No?
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: It's like like, hey, I I want to do a
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: sponsorship with with Miss USA Premier Collection is the hair
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: sponsor for Miss USA, Miss ten Usa? Can can you
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: give me a loan for that? Sure, here's a check.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: And we're my sister and I run the business now,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: so we are working the business and we will pay
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: my mom that money back from that she invested in Prima.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: So oh I like that. So no, no, like here's money, well.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: No, And I also have I have her credit card
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: and if I want to go and like go to Sephora,
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: and I don't want to use my money, me and
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: my sister would be like put it on a mom's card. Yes,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: shout to thank you, thank y'all.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Are we paying for our mortgage on our own?
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Absolutely?
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Okay? So you and Chris pay for the mortgage.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, all the utilities high and ghetto. Yes, well I
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: don't pay. Chris pays the utilities. We split our mortgage, okay,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: and he pays the other bills.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: And what do you pay? We split the.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Mortgage and I pay. I buy my gas.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: For the most part, you love your life, don't you.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: We are it's a.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Blessing if and you know people, every marriage is different, okay, right,
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: like yes, because I have friends who like pull all
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: their money into one account and they pay everything together
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: out of one account.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's that's that's like normal.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah uh uh no, I have no My money is
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: over here and your money is over there, and we
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: we put the mortgage into one account, but everything else,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: like if like I buy the groceries, for example, so
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: I will go to Costco and right and just go
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: like this and just get everything because I love Costco
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: and that's my business. And then he'll eat whatever is
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: in the house. And then he also buys a lot
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: of because he cooks every day the other day, so
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: he'll go buy that stuff. But for the house. I
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: buy the groceries and for the the child. Okay, so
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: for the for the child. We kind of split that.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: So like shout out to everybody because we have not
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: had to buy a diaper still, and the boy's like
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: what three he's no, he's fifteen months, he's a year
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: and three months. We have we have, I lie. We
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: just had to buy our first box of vipers, and
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Dot bought those and then shout out to grandparents. I
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: don't buy anything for Jet. I'm like, my Jet needs
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: some shoes okay, and she will send him like six
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: pairs of shoes. We went to the mall over Christmas
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: because he's growing out of his clothes and he needed
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: more winter clothes. I was like, dang, I need to
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: get jets and stuff. Okay, let's go in the store.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, this is cute, this is cute.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: We get up there and she's and she just pulled
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: her card. My mother is she's the grandmother.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Well, the thing is this, Listen, if I ever had
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: a child, and I mean this because I'll say anything,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, if I ever had a child, and God
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: knows that if I decide to have one, it's his will. Yes,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: and he knows that I want the baby to be healthy.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: He also knows that I think first born kids when
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: they're a girl, I think a first born should be
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: a daughter because she will take care of you in
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: your old age.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, and she'll make sure you're good.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go record for the world to know.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: If God bless me with a daughter, I want her
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: to be you go Corlos.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: I do I want my daughter? No, everyone knows this.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I want my daughter to stand on business like my
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: father's Carlos fucking Kings, and that's what we're not gonna do.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: And then I.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Want her to be smart, educated, gorgeous, poised, and I
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: want her to be like dad.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what baby me? My daughter?
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Girl?
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, my daughter dad? Yes, okay, girl, let me tell
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: you what happened, yeah, my dad. And then I'll be like,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: are you good?
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: I'm fine.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: You want want to go to the mall? Yep, yep, yep. No,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: that was my child. I don't care. She's fifty with
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: a husband.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm still on my dad's phone plan. Okay, you're
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: my child, listen, and I'll never forget. When I was
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: getting married, he was like, so you know you want
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: to maybe get your own phone plan. I said, no,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: why would I do that? Pray tell why? And he
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: was like, okay, and I'm still on his phone plan
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: because why for what reason would I ever not? I'm
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: his only daughter. Okay, I'm a daddy's girl. I will
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: be on his phone plan until Kingdom come, until there
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: is no more.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: AT and T. Yeah, that's my daughter.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yo, listen, I want to shift off to your career.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I as you know, I'm a huge fan of your music,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: and you know that I play your songs and I
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: do my own karaoke and you're such a beautiful songstress.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: You you have the gift of boys. You can really sing.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: You're not that reality star who do want to hop
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: a one two one two to be relevant?
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: You take your artistry seriously. You have submitted your work
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: to the Grand Me, the Recording Academy. Yes, what can
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: we expect from you when it comes to your music?
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Because I I'm a bassin hound yeah you know, yes,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I'm a bassin house and honey, I put some on music.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Well, your wish is granted.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Literally.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: So do you remember from like old Kardashians when Courtney
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: would be like literally, Kim, Yeah, so literally, Kim. I
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: have a new single dropping in like three weeks, three
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: or four weeks, three weeks, I think, yes, Like we
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: are literally like mixing and mastering my new single right now,
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: and I just shot the video over the weekend and
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: I just got the cover for the single and it's
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: so fired. It's so amazing, and I'm really proud of
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: this next iteration of music. It is. It's so good.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: And I don't say that about anything I do, like
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: I don't toot my own horn, but I am just
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: so proud of this music. I recorded most of it
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: when I was pregnant, and I don't know if that
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: was like my emotions were in a different space, but
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: I was just like raw and like I'm saying exactly
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: what the fuck I want to say, and I don't
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: get like what you think, and it is it is
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: exactly what I want my artistry to be positioned as
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: at this time.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Is the R and B pop? Is this soulful R
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: and B?
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: It is it's R and B with a touch of
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: rock cool but also but it's soulful. But I love
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: I think in my past life, I was like a
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: rock star, like even in my shows, there's I forget
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: which song, I think it's do it where there's like
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: a little interlude, a little musical interlude, and I bring
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: out my guitarist, shout out to Jay Rojas and he
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: does like this, like guitar riff, and I'm on the floor,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: like whipping my hair and like headbanging. Yes, I'm a
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: rock star, Okay, I'm I'm the long lost black female
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Chili Pepper does. Okay. So I love the instrumentation of
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: rock music and how emotional it is and how chaotic
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: it can be. But my bass is R and B
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: because I'm that's who I am. I grew up. I
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: was raised by the R and B girlies and men
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: in of the nineties.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Tony Brackston, we saw the cover you did and you
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: killed it. Have you heard from her?
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: She?
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Years ago? She gave me a nod somewhere. I can't
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: remember where, but she gave me a nod somewhere years ago.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: I didn't hear from her on this occasion, but I'm
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: I'm very close to her sister, Tamar.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my girlfriend.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: I love, love, love Tamar.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Hi Ta, I love y'all. Call you tomorrow.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Yes, I love her for, you know, just for who
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: she is, but she's also I love her because she
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: we are similarly I think misunderstood and she she has
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: a really big heart and I think people miss that
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: because they want to misunderstand her. But she's amazing and
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: I love her.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: I love her too, and I cannot agree more. You
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: are doing Traders this season, and this is such the
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: show for you as you're sort of comeback yes to
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: unscripted television.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: What can you tell us? And let's don't say much, honey.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Because I don't want to get I don't get no
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: phone calls, not to do I okay, Hi, Hey, y'all.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: You on this show makes a lot of sense and
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I literally am excited to see you. I listen my
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: spotty senses. Tell me, if you're not the winner, you're
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: going to go far because you are maniacal, a strategist,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: a shade queen, and because you are a pageant girl.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Honey, you know.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: How to appear sweet, but you also know how to
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: be very cunning.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Is that is that that I'll describe your season?
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: I'll take that. Yes, I will put an asterisk over
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: to the strategist because I find that I'm not that
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: great at strategy in my mind, as evidenced by the
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: the chaos and mayhem that you all saw on Housewives. Like,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: I was never thinking ahead. I was always like in
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: the moment with a butter knife, so.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Listen, I say, go ahead.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Oh god, yeah that was the you know, I'm gonna
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: tell you something after about that, okay, because yes, yeah,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: go ahead. Yeah. So no, I people had been started
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: like tagging me online and saying, oh, you should to
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: do this show, and I hadn't heard of it yet,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: and I was like, what is Traders? I don't want
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: to do this because all I saw was like, oh,
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: they're outside running and they're sweating and there's bugs and
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: water and what I'm not this is no, I don't
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: I'm not outside. Is not my ministry unless I'm like
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: going from one building to the next. So what do
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: I look like with my wig or my sew I
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: had a sew in sweating like my scalp is sweating
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: in my sew in and I can't like wash properly
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: because I don't have no black hairstyle in Scotland. So
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: I was not really interested. But it kept like every
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: season from season one to season three. I just kept
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: getting pinged, and then the NBC finally came to me
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: and they were like, yeah, we want you to do this.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: We think it'd be great for you. And I was like, eh, okay.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: I like a challenge and I like to prove myself wrong.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: And this was all of that, and so I left,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: and I left my baby. My baby was eight months
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: at the time. And you are very much sequestered, and
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: you know, you don't have access to the outside world.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: I will just kind of break the fourth wall and
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: just give I have to give flowers to Studio Lambert,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: the production company, because they are just wonderful and we're
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: very good about letting me talk to my son and
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: letting me call home and talk make sure that he
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: was okay. But no, you're like in it, and you
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: are like all you have is like your notebook and
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: a pin when you're in your room, and the rest
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: of the time you're just out running around or like,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: you know, sleuthing out who the traders are.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: So you're on the show of Porsche Porsche. Yes, Yes,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: how was that experience with her?
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: It was fun. It was so I didn't know who
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: was going to be there, and I had no idea,
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: it didn't have any speculation. So when I saw her,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: I was excited. It's like, oh, a familiar face, a
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: black person, period, right, because I'm like, who black is
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: going to be here? I don't know anybody. And then
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: I was excited just to see Housewives and I had
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: never met Lisa Na and I was like, oh, a
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: familiar face that you know runs in the same front yard,
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: the Bravo front yard that I have run in. So
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: I was excited to see Housewives, but particularly one that
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: I knew, albeit you know, wrought with a bit of
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: tumult here and there, but I knew, we knew, I
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: knew her.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Do you and Porsche get into a verbal
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: spat in the castle?
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: M h? I mean I can't really say, can I No,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: I cannot be helping you out now.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I pretty much can see because you know, I know Portia,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: I know you, And are you and Porsiae? Are we
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: going to be entertained?
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Oh? Two of you without a doubt in the same room?
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Correct?
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, that I could say.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Us fans will not be disappointed when we see you
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: in portion in the same room.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: No, okay, Okay.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: You unfollowed her. I did, was that before Scotland? On?
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: After Scotland?
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: I think it was before. I think it was before.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Now you did follow her when you guys did Ultimate
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Girls Trip?
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: I think we. Yes, we had been following each other
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: before Ultimate Girls Trip and then yeah, and then and
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: then we had our debates in Thailand and we weren't
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: really talking like that. But I didn't unfollow her. I'm
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: not an unfol like, that's not my my thing. Like
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: I can be pissed at you, you know, but I'm not.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: I don't need to unfollow you unless I'm seeing you
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: a lot on my timeline. But I'm not thinking like,
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: oh I'm mad at this person, let me go find
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: them and unfollow them. So, no, we I had been
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: following her up until I.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Wasn't what made you hit the unfollow button?
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Well, I discussed this also on my podcast Domesticated. I
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: saw a clip of her on Atlanta Housewives talking about
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: I was figure her name the new girl, No, the Angela, Yes,
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: talking about Charles Oakley. Yes, they were on a cash
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: trip and she was like, she better be careful before
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: I sleep with her husband. And I just saw the clip.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: I was not watching the show. But I see clips.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: I see clips of every I see clips of all
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: the shows. I see clips of Potomac, I see clips
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: of Atlanta, all the clips. And I'm a human who
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: has social media, so I'm looking at the clips and
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: I was like, what this is great? I just it's
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: as a married woman who is in the public eye
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: and already dealing with like hoes who want to throw
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: themselves at your man. Sometimes they're coworkers. It is, It
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: just makes me, It makes my grits. Do you need
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: a moment, I'll give you.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: My rain drops.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Know. I sometimes have a can of oxygen because I
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: gag so much that I sometimes get out of breath.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Do we need to breathe?
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm good now, honey.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna you know, stop drop and roll
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: o fire fire.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's a fire, honey on thirty fourth Street.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, but no, it just as a marriage. And I
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: said this too, just the conviction of a wife is
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: different because you you're you're battling against so many things.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: The devil comes to marriages in a lot of different ways.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: It can come in the form of you know, raggedy
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: two dollar hos. Income in the form of why you
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: leave your draws on the floor income in the form
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: of you know you, we're just we are two ships
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: passing in the night because we're both working all the time.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: There are a lot of challenge in a marriage and
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: as a married woman, much like now that I'm a mother,
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: I also like just view things differently and I approach
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: life differently. I just don't like to hear a woman,
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: especially when who has been married before, say something that
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: could be so detrimental to a marriage. And it just
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: it just like triggered me, and.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: It triggered you because one of your former co workers, yes,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: try to sleep with Chris or flirt with him.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Well, we saw what happened. I'm gonna leave it there.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: We saw what happened, and we all know what happened
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: and what didn't happen, And it just it makes me protective,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: and it makes me just more prickly to certain things,
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: and it changes my tolerance. And then also being a
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: woman of God, like there's a conviction of a Christian
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: wife and trying to be like a good wife who
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: is dutiful and prayerful over her her marriage and over
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: her family, and that is all always like in the
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: front and back in my mind, and so when I
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: saw it, it was just like, oh uh uh, this is
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: just I don't, I can't, I don't want to see this.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: And I'm now, like I think, in my later thirties,
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: I'm more so invested in curating what is in my
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: orbit and knowing that I have control over a lot
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: of what I choose to ingest, and I'm quick to
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: you know, do on Instagram. You can do like the
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: thing where it says like I don't like this, yes,
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: and I don't want to see this anymore, and you
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: know that can be anything like I don't want to
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: see I don't like watching black people getting beat up,
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: so I don't want to watch that. So whereas before
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: I would you know, just keep scrolling, you could do
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: something about it. I want this, I want to curate
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: my timeline, so this is not a part of my
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: viewing experience because it seeps into your psyche and I
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: don't want that in my space. This was the same thing.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: I just didn't want to see any of it. I
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: didn't want to I didn't want to see her or
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: any footage or content that had to do with what
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: was said. And then I heard later that she apologized
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: for it or took accountability for it, and I was like, oh, great, perfect,
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: and I moved on. I didn't see a need to. Okay,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: now let me go back and refollow. It was done
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: and it was really no, it wasn't deep for me.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: It was just I don't like this. I'm gonna unfollow.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Do you guys talk about it in Scotland?
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, we don't.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: It doesn't talk about other stuff.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Well, there's so much going on right there, like it is.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: From the moment we got there, it was like, go
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: like you saw. I think they showed like a little trailer.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: We pull up and it's fire, blow up in going
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: up in the sky. I said, now what is this? Okay?
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: On my wig? This is human hair, so I will
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: be okay. But I was just like, so many things
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: going on, so no, and then it just moves so
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: fast that there was not a moment for me to
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: discuss it.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Well, she's not dating a woman, that's right. Are you surprised?
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: No? No, I think that. I think one of the
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: beauties of Portia is that she is She's I don't
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: is she a water sign. She's very fluid, she's kind
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: of she's a cancer. Is cancer water? No, they're earth,
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think. I don't, don't quote me,
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: but she's right, Okay, I know, I'm fire, That's what
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Her birthday okay is in June, but she's June twenty seconds.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, she's a cancer.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Okay. So well, she's very She's always been very, just
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: fluid and just does what she wants, which I think
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: I admire about her. Anyone who I've always said to
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: even say something nice about Ashley for head Darby, She's
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: another one that just kind of goes with the flow
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: in a way that I don't I can't necessarily do. So, No,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: I'm not surprised. Good for her.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Would you be surprised if Ashley tried to date your
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: son when he got over the age of eighteen.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Well, given the turn of events, no, I would not
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: be surprised. But just that is a brand of low down,
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: low budget, slew footed trailer park. Now sense that that's
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: now that is disgusting. I should unfollow do I don't
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: think I follow her. If I was following her, I
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: would unfollow her. That is gross.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Were you surprised that Ashley would sleep with Sharissa's son
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: who was a friend of hers, and yes, he's twenty seven,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: she's thirty seven, and it happened two years ago allegedly,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: so he was twenty five, she was thirty five. The
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: fans are not saying, well, you met him at fifteen
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: years old, you saw this guy grow up. Charis did
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: my podcast and she said that no friend of hers
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: would every day her son's and she felt that if
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: the rose were reversed and that a grown man saw
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: one of Giselle's daughters grow up and started dating them,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: the whole world would be it ar.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Do you agree with that?
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: I do. I watched that whole interview. It was very good,
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Thank you, and I haven't talked to Jerize, but I'm
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: proud of her for saying everything that she said, because
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: she's not ever really done that before.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: What was the question, do you think that Ashley doing that?
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Does it define her character? And do you think there's
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: a double standard because she's a woman who did it?
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Do I think it defines her character? I think it
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: is confirmation of the character we have always known her
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: to have, to which I don't always fault her. I
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: don't condemn people for all of their evil, because everyone
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: has a story and everyone is who they are because
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: of where they have been and what they have been through.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: And I think that much of Ashley's, many of her
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: choices are a result of where she has come from
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: and what she has been through. And you hear talk
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: about it, at least when I was there, she talked
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: about it a lot, how she came from humble beginnings
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: and her they didn't have a lot of mone and
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: her parents were abusing substances. And I think that informed
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: why she felt like she had to go run up
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: behind Gollum, because why would you who chooses? Who makes
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: this choice? You know, there is money strewn about from
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: this corner of the earth to that one, and.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: This was your choice.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: This was a woman in duress. I just and I'm
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm glad that she has However it happened,
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: you know, mate taken her leave and moved on from that.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: But I think that she is a woman who is
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: haunted by her environment, and she is a product of
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: her environment, and it makes her do foul, low budget
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: things like justify allegedly sleeping with your friend's son, like
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: my friend's children, those are my nieces and nephews. Now
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: let's say, you know, God forbid I get to be
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: up to sixty something, and you know, the aliens come
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: and get Chris, and I'm single and my best friend's
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: son is of age. What do you mean that is
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: a child? We don't. I would never like who We
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: are not covorting with children, even if they are grown.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: I remember you as a child. How do you then
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: lay allegedly with this person that you can recall memories
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: of them being a child. It's the only explanation. Is
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: something something is a miss up here and it is
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: a result of where you have been. We need to
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: call it. Where's the therapist? Where is doctor whomever?
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Not?
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: The life needed to be fixed. Were you surprised that?
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Robin Dixon said on her podcast she has with Gazell
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: recently Shady. She said that although she thought what Ashley
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: did was tasteless, you know, they're both grown and she
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: doesn't see a problem with it that one of her
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: sons got older to be that age and two consenting
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: adults did that she wouldn't be upset with the act
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: of it. She thought it was tasteless that Ashley did
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: not tell series.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Coming from Robin that doesn't surprise me, just because Robin
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: is very lax, a daisical, like in life, like everything
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: is like, oh whatever, I'll get to it, so, you know.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: And I think Robin is a wonderful mother, Like I
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: don't fuck with her, but I think that she she's
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: she's a great she's a great mom. Like I've seen
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: her mother. She's a great mom, and she loves her sons.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: I also think that her her if that's her rational,
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: I feel like that comes from a place of the
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: privilege of having only sons, right when you have daughters. Unfortunately,
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: we live still in a patriarchal society, and you have
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: to view the world through the lens of a woman
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: and differently than you view the world through the lens
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: of a man. And I don't have daughters, but I
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: will have a daughter, and I have all I think
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: I was. I wanted a girl first, and was I
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: had a gender disappointment that they all talk about and
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: had to kind of come to terms with it. And
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: now I couldn't see my life without Jet, and I'm
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: obsessed with him and he was supposed to be first.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: I get it now, But what I wanted was different
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: from what God wanted, and I had to kind of
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: come to terms with that. But in always wanting a
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: girl first, I have, I think, always prepared to be
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: a girl mom in the way that I presented myself,
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: the way that I moved about the world, the way
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: that I protected her from the world, And I'm prepared
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: for that. And you, if Robin had daughters, I would
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: venture to say that she might have more of a
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: problem with it because it is seen as more predatory
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: in the reverse.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: You said on your podcast Undomesticated that you don't see
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: yourself going back to the Real Housewives of Atomac, and
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: I want to I want to talk to you about
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: that because I don't like that. Okay, And this is
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: me talking to you. It's your big brother and everybody, okay,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: but it's different with me. Okay, mom, Okay, hey, let
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: me let me, let me let me take over the
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm your I'm your gay godfather, hoodie.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: I don't like it, and I don't want you to
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: speak that into existence, and I want you to hear
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: me out.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: Okay. Okay.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Your first appearance on my podcast a couple of years ago,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: you said something that stayed with me. You talked about
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: how you manifested that job, how you manifested the job
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: of being a real housewife for Potomac, and how you
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: pray to God. You talked about how you got on
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: your knees and you pray to God. And I don't
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: play about prayer either. And God does not play about
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: his children bowing down to him in need, because and
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: I want you to. I want you to be still
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: and receive what I'm saying.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: God does not play about blessing his children when they
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: get down on his when they get down on their
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: knees and they ask him asking prayer, asking, you shall receive, right,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: And when he doesn't give it to you, it is
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: because he got something better for him, or it's not
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: the right time.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: God gave you that job.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: Yes he did. Yes, he did.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: No one else did, none of the girls, did the
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: production company, the network. God gave you that job, okay.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Because when God saw his child bowed down to him
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: and requested that, God smiled at you and said.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: Oh Lord, I'm going to need a tiss in.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: A moment, Sandra.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: No, but hear me out a box on the table.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: God smiled at you. Yes, and he and and and psal,
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: I'm thirty seven.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, he gave you the desires of your heart. And
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: when I look at you, Okay, you did that show
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: because you knew you were appointed to do it. Okay,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: you did that show because you were appointed to do
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: it there and you did that show out of sheer obedience.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: And what I'm saying to you is this, it did
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: not come in the package that you thought.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: It was going to come in.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, your prayers came to life, but it did not
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: come in the package that you requested, and it left
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: you with self doubt. It left you with disappointment. It
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: left you with hurt, and it left you with pain
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: because you signed on to do something and it looked
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: nothing like you thought it would.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: And what you are doing now.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: As you say these things, you're protecting yourself from hurt again.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: I don't believe you when you say you don't want
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: to go back, because you do, but hear me out,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: I don't believe you. And the reason why I don't
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: believe you respectfully is because you step into that show.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: And you gave it your all. Oh my god, you
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: gave it your all.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: And I remember watching a scene on your last season
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: and you sat there at a table, and I remember
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: you were dead in the eyes because for you, you
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: looked around and it was no longer reflective of the
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: vision you had, huh. And you questioned your purpose on
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: that show, and you questioned your place on that show.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: And I want the world to know you and I
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: have never talked about this, no, okay. And what I'm
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: saying to you is this time heals all wounds, okay.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: And the last thing I want for you, I don't
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: want your pain.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: To come in between your purpose pastor King, okay.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: And what you have to figure out for yourself. And
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: I'm willing to hold your hand in conversing with you.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: All the girls call me, I give all the girls
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: of Ice, and all the girls are winning, right.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: I know?
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Okay. I want you.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: To not have any ego in this because my definition
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: of ego I learned this when I was at a
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: gospel of radio station, hid because I'm seventeen years old,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: I'm gay Carlos King of the Trent, Michigan, honey, and
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: I'm an intern at the gospel radio station.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Because I took a leap hear and I you know,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: you know't listen.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: I wasn't ready child, Look where you are well.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Thank you. God is good all the time, on the time.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: God is good.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, So a person who was being interviewed, he said, ego.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: The ego stands for erasing God out. He said, it's
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: for erasing God out. And I don't want your ego
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: to get the best of you because you you were
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: raised on legacy. You were raised on hard work, and
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: you were raised on setting up the family crest and
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: you have a mouth to feed.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: And what we're not going to do.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Is get on Beyonce's Internet and Carrie Hillson's five G network.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Hey Carrie, I love her more and speak things into
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: to the world that we don't want to happen. I
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: think you've been hurt. I think you've been beaten. I
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: think you've been And when I say bild mean the physical,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: I mean just like this.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Shit is tough.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: And that's why I said I don't care what anyone
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: has to say. I'm the guy who understands everything right.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: And I know many girls. I know many girls who
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: had to step away for a moment in time to
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: figure things out. And I'm not saying that the grass
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: isn't always greener, right, because the grass is greener based
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: on the seeds you plant in the ground. Okay, but
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: what I am saying to you, baby, you came on
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: that motherfucker and changed the temperature of that bitch.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: You did. You did?
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: We marvel at that, and I'm happy that you stepped
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: away because the last thing that I believe God wanted
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: for you is to be distracted by the fetus inside
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: of you. And there was no way you can have both.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: I unpopular opinion. I don't believe you can have it
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: all at once.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: I agree you can't have.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: All at once.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: So God knew I have to remove you from the
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: situation in order for you to be in the in
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: the best mind space, mind, body and soul to give
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: birth to another human being. And now that you are
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: snashed to the gods in the heavens, honey, and now
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: that you have that experience, now that you're on trade
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: touris honey, which I.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Considered to be the pregame to getting you know, on
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: back on Housewives.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Oh God Jesus, I want you when you leave here today,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: I want you to get on your knees and I
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: want you to have a heartfelt talk to God. No
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: one's listening. You don't have to impress your your listeners,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: your fans, the world, these girls, anybody involved. I want
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: you and God to have a real conversation, and based
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: on that, I want you your actions and your behavior
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: and your mindset to follow what God tells you do.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: We have a collection play well, No, that's just you
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: know this is oh my god.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: You were hurt. Yes, yes, because you were.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: You you were giving it everything, and you didn't realize
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: these are my friends and these are alliances, and and
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: I really thought we were friends.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: That's yes, that's a that's part of it. That is
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: a significant part of it. I will say this. I
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: remember I want I don't remember what season it was, seven,
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: six seven, I think six seven. I think it was
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: seven when whenever I was going through my first round
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: of IVF and you have it's very like tedious time.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: You have to be giving yourself injections. You're going into
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: the doctor every morning so that they can look at
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: your ovaries and look at your follicles in your ovaries
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: and count how many follicles you have and how they're growing,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: and based on how they're growing per day, they will
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: increase or decrease your medication. So I'm like, I am
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: like on edge and having to be like very on
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: top of everything, and it's also very emotional and very spiritual,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: and there was so much negativity going on. I believe
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: that season that I my first egg retrieval failed and
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: I know that the stress of the show was why
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: it failed, because I wear all of my stress in
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: my gut. It all whenever I am dealing with any
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: type of negative dark energy stress, it sits in my stomach.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: And there is not a play. You can't have life
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: growing and also be dealing with dark energy at the
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: same time. I just don't think that it works. And
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: I vowed, I said, I don't think I've ever said this.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: I vowed to myself, if Lord, if I can get
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: pregnant again, or if I can get pregnant, because that
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: was just me getting retrieving eggs, but if I can
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: get pregnant, I promise I will do everything in my
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: power to create a space to bring forth this child.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: I will sacrifice whatever. And and I I knew, I
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: knew leaving the not leaving. I knew halfway through that reunion,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: that last reunion, that and I was pregnant at that time.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: I was actually I had this. I snuck into the
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: bathroom to give myself my shot, because after you get
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: pregnant via IVF, you have to continue your progesterone and
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: oil shots for at whatever time I was mine was
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: ten weeks. I had to do shots for ten weeks
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: after they implanted the embryo.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: And.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: I had to sneak to the bathroom and do my injection.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: And I'm you know, trying to you know, stay focused
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: and stay in the game of the reunion, which is
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: like our super Bowl for the season, and also make
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: sure that I'm not forgetting. I have to take care
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: of this too. And then I remember our team of producers.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: They would come into everybody's room and just check in
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: and say, how is everybody doing. And we were just
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: casually talking about motherhood and where I was in my
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: journey because we had been talking for since I started
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: the show, really about like me starting a family, Like
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: you saw me grow up on the show. I went
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: from being you know, a single woman to getting married
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: and moving out of a house my mom helped me
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: buy and now starting this journey of wanting to become
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: a mother. And we were talking about that, and I'm
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: pregnant at the time, and they're asking me like, well,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: do you think that you'll be ready? And I was
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: like no, because I was terrified two share something so
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: sacred and so special and so something that was just
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: mine and my husband's and and it results in something
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: tragic and and so I I I lied, I didn't
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: I said, I didn't lie. I omitted. And you know,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: it is it's impossible for me to not think about
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: or address, you know, in prayer with family and friends,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: what I would like to do as far as the show,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: I can't walk down the street and people are like,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: and it's it's it is. It's a wonderful feeling to
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: know that you're loved in that way and missed, but
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: it is scary, and it is you know, it makes
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: me emotional because I do recall the what just felt
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: like beating your head against the wall with people who
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: are dedicated to misunderstanding me and not wanting to be
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: in that space while trying to bring life into the world.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: And I, you know, I tip my hat to women
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: who are able to do it, and you know, more
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: power to you. I that that just wasn't what I
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: wasn't willing to take the risk, and I you know
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: I've I have never said never. I have just said
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: it's not a priority, and it's not. It's not what
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: I see for myself right now. I don't I don't
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: ever want to close any doors. I'm just cautious, cautiously optimistic,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: if you will, about the doors that I do want
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: to open or reopen and what that would look like
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: for me and you know, all parties involved, because there
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: there are requirements for healing and reconciliation that that would
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: need to be in place that are not on the
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: table because people are given free reign to run amok
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: in the castle and that's okay. I will sit over
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: here and do what I'm doing with my husband and
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: my baby.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: No, And I received that, And and what I can
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: say to you, I think there's a shift that's happening.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: It's not grandular, right, Excuse me, it's not.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: It's not grandular by any means, right, But I see
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: a shift happening because you know, when you look at
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: someone like Stacy Rush, who came in and authentically herself
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: and who didn't allow herself to be And when I
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: say this word, I meant in terms of, like, you know,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: the the process of joining something new and you're just like,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: what was going on?
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: She allowed her to be mishandled by people.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: She was like, maybe this is it and my breastings
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: have me a breath, men like which I want to do.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: And then it's sort of like, oh, well that's different.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: And I think I think the.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: I'll say this because whatever I was, I'm gonna say it.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: I strongly believe the positive reception of Stacy Rush has
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: surprised people. I think it has allowed people to view
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: things differently mm hm.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: And I think and I think.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: The warm Grandio's reception of the audience has allowed a
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: lot of people to be like, oh, there's a new
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: temperature that needs to be dialed back right and getting
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: back to getting back to the basics.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: And I'll leave it at that.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is, I look, you know for
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: a fact that I have been trying to talk to
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: you face to face for a couple of years, and
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: you and I are both, you know, spiritual people. This
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: happening at this time in our lives is destiny because
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: it was supposed to happen this time because on some
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: real stuff. I didn't feel this way three years ago,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: two years ago, I didn't feel this way last year, right,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: I felt this way recently, and everything that I'm describing
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: obviously has happened in the past couple of months.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: So that's why A as a.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Obedient child of the Lord, I would be remiss not
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: to share with you what I feel like he's putting
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: in my heart and my spirit to regurgitate to you.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: And I do mean it when I say, look, have
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: a conversation with him, because it's you.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: But baby, I think, baby, I think uh uh, A
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: tide has turned. I strongly believe that.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: I think the Charis interview highlighted that people saying like, well,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: damn Carlson.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: I like Cherise now. I mean I kind of.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: Want her back on the show. Maybe not full time,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: but hey, can she be a friend? And so I
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: do think I think people want to get back to
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: the basics. I think people want real reality again. I
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: think people are over like, okay, girl, I was shady,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: or we're gonna hate the new girl. I think all
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: of that is sort of like there. I think people
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: are over it, and I think people want real conversation. Yeah,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: And I think people want real accountability and the willingness
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: for two parties to come to the table saying let's
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: see that.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: You know, listen, we.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: Come to the table, let's see that because there is
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: a palpable and genuine want or desire between those people,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: not because it appears that they're being forced, right so
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: to remain gainfully employed.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, but but I'm about to get you some more.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Everybody in corporate America when they have these teams in
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: order to present the biggest presentation so that everybody can
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: get that cute bonus at the end of the year.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: As long as we're all here to be a great team.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: Yes, I don't have the vacation with you.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: Guys, you know during the holidays, but when we're at work,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: let's all come together and be real and do the
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: best thing for the sake of the show.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: I also don't subscribe to everybody, of course, I want
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: this more than then then often by mosto realistic.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: We may not talk on the phone, yeah, you know,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: off season, but if I run into you at Whole Foods, yes,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: I'm able to stand in out twelve and converse for
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. Yes, how so, and so all right, well,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: look I'll see you. We don't have the out to
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: dinner if that's not real. But what I don't want is, well,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: we have to be buddy, buddy. I think now what
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: we're realizing is as long as we can be respectful,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: do our job, yes.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: Not go down that rabbit hole of.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: Non Okay, then I'm all. I'm here for it and
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: I want that for you. And I listen, call me crazy,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: but I see that happening. I see it happening.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: I really do, I really do, I really do? I
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: really really.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: Do I you are I can't Carlos.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: Please okay, bye bye bye, Okay, so listen. Are Thomas
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: almost up?
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: Look okay, I'm almost more question obviously you and Wendy
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: O Cphoe. You know, as it appeared on the show again,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening now because I'm spoken appear
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: to be closed.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: You know what she's going through in her situation?
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Where do things stand between you and doctor Wendy?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: As far as I know the things stand upright. I
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: haven't spoken to her since right when the news aired
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: dropped and I I, well, I had to. I felt
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: like I had to reach out to her immediately because
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: the way that I found out about the news was
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: on the news. I was doing a promo for a
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: stage play that I was doing, and five minutes before
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: I went on, they came to me like, hey, we
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: have some breaking news. We want you to come in on.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, sure, I'm thinking it was like, oh,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: you know President Trump, fill out, Okay, let's talk about that.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: But it was this, and I was like, I like
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: spiraled because like, because what? And so I felt like
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: I had to reach out to her immediately and just say, hey,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: I don't want you to think I like ran down
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: to Fox five to talk about you, like, this is
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: how this happened, and this is what I said, and
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: I'm so sorry this is happening, and and you know,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: she she responded. It took her a few days, naturally
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: to respond, and she was grateful for my well wishes.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: And I think I may have spoken to her maybe
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: one other time after that, but I haven't really spoken
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: to her outside of that, outside of you know, liking
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: her photos on Instagram. But I'm also just aware of
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: how heavy everything is that's going on, and I'm not
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: I don't expect to, you know, talk to her every day,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: but I do. I think about her all the time
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: and I think about the situation all the time, and
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: I like run through the OMG of it all, and
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: I hope, I pray that it, you know, will will
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: work in their favor.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: I agree, and I and I and I do too.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm doing this new thing this year while
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: I'm asking all of my reality girlies.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: This my final question. Okay, okay, you're ready for this.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: Let me give you some legs.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, range, Josh, you're ready for this.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: Who is Candice Diller Bassetts mount Rushmore of reality stars?
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: Oh? Okay, this is fairly easy.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: For me.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: Yes, Okay. Number one for me will always be Ninny Leaks,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: you know, for obvious reasons. We're also next door neighbors
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: in Sagittarian. Yeah, thirteenth. I'm the fourteenth. So I feel
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: like I've always just kind of like understood her for
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: that reason. Tiffany New York Collard similarly, she just she
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: was kind of the blueprint of for reality television for
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: so many and she's hilarious. I've never met her though,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: but she's hilarious through the TV.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: I work with her. The sweetest thing in the world.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: I believe professional on top.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: I believe it. Yes, Okay, how is four for? Okay?
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: I always I always like blank on who a third
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: one would be? Always a good third. I need a minute.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know a third reality because the problem is,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm watching Bluie, I'm watching Miss Rachel. I'm
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: not even sure what is WI who is on?
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: They have The Real World, The Kardashians, basketba Loving, hir Pop, Baddies,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: Bad Girls.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: Club, The Apprentice.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: Oh you know I could go with because my mott
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: mush war is black women. Don't you could fight me
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: on it? Jackie Christie, that is a looney tune fit
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: for TV in the best way. I just love she
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: is just just deliciously crazy.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: I love her, love Jackie.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: I love that her and her husband do the thing
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: where they get married every year. I recently saw the
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: stuff about her and her daughter getting busy, getting giggy
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: witted on TV. I can relate. We've never fought on TV,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: but I can relate to the the emotion because I
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: saw the clip and I get it. I also know
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: that she had some stuff with her daughter right where
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: she there was like some stuff about color somebody being
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: one of the daughters alleging.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: Yes, colorism.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that was a ouch for me. But I
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: would still put her up there because part of being
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: I think iconic in this space is it's not always
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: pink and soft. Sometimes it's like jacket and ugly. And
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know how she responded to it, but I
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: would still put her up there and me, and you
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: know what, there was a time. There was a time
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: where I would not have put me up there. I
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: think I've answered this question and I didn't say me.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: It's twenty twenty six. I'm almost forty flucked that shit.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: I am mount Rushmore. Okay, period period, come back to.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: That show and we claim your spot.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: Listen, we'll pop our ship twenty twenty sixth I bought that.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: Listen all of the terror cars that I'm saying on TikTok.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: They said about the Lee bro SARTI, they said, leon
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: like fuck that it is.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you funk all this shit. I'm a real
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: hood right, pop your ship?
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, baby, So we got Nannie Leek's, Tiffany Pollard, Jackie Christy,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: and Candace Diller Bassett mount Rushmore and listen.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: You may see her on your screen soon.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: However, she is on this season of trade turns, and
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: I am predicting that my good sister is going to
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: go far and possibly even win. So make sure y'all
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: watch The Traders every Thursday on p COG.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: I love you, I love you more.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: This was wonderful, niece post love you.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: I love you so much. I want the best.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: I really do, Pastor King, I really did. I've made
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: every single word. That's a wrap.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: With the Lack Effect Network.
• 1:21:03
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• 1:21:06
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