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Should Draymond Green be suspended the rest of the season? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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  I got the name OJ Obaii is the guy that I'm reading that the
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  Knicks are very interested in. Also, there's a couple of guys
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  that the Knicks have their names have been.
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  How about this? If the Knicks strike out on on a
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  guy like Giannis, how about Sabonis?
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  Sabonis is a guy that could do so many different things
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  offensively and defensively for the Knicks.
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  He's a rebounder, he's a he. He's a double double machine.
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  He's not the same player he was 2-3 years ago, but could still
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  play an elite level. I and you put him your trade
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  Mitch Robinson, if you keep Karl Anthony Towns and you let him be
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  the guy that's going to be The Dirty guy off the boards.
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  You know that the defensive, offensive prowess guy.
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  And by the way, I he's also a guy that can hit those 1718 foot
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  jumpers a bonus. I think that would make a lot of
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  sense if they strike out on Giannis because what I'm hearing
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  as I was one of the very few people that said that the
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  Timberwolves are going to be one of the favorites to landing
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  Giannis. Well, the story is over the last
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  24 hours that a lot of people believe that now the
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  Timberwolves are the favorites to Lynn Giannis.
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  So very, very interesting. And and again, the Giannis
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  sweepstakes is is going to take a lot.
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  It might be a third team involved draft stock to get
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  this, this deal done because what I'm hearing is Milwaukee
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  wants at least four first round draft picks and three players
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  that can start on their roster today.
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  So I, I, I know, I know the Knicks don't have that because
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  they have Mikkel Bridges and they gave Mikkel, they gave the
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  next 5 first round draft picks to get Mikkel Bridges.
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  That Knicks do have their draft pick every other year.
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  They still have Washington's pick too.
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  We'll see how that works. Washington right now is one of
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  the two worst teams in the NBA. So they're fighting for that,
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  that last, that last place so they can win the lottery balls
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  and get one of those top three picks because boy, oh boy, this
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  is one of those, one of those drafts you want to be in the top
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  three. Actually anything in the top
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  ten, you're going to get yourself a good player, a player
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  that could start on your roster. So it's very, very interesting.
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  And, and again, I was listening to Stephen A Smith's take today,
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  which was very, very interesting.
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  Does he, after the Knicks won yesterday.
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  And by the way, they played horrible in the first half of
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  that game against the Lakers. The Lakers, I know we're only up
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  by like, if I'm not mistaken, 5 points, but they didn't play
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  good basketball in the second-half.
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  They started playing good defense.
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  And and by the way, in the last six games, the Knicks have kept
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  teams to 91 points or less, which has been the best in the
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  NBA in the last six games since Jalen Bronson called for that
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  team meeting. So I could this roster win a
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  championship? Yes.
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  Are you going to trust that this roster is going to play at a top
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  level like they have in the last six games?
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  And they haven't really played elite teams.
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  The Lakers are probably the best team they've beaten in the last
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  six games. The Lakers are the six seed
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  right now in the Western Conference, practically the same
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  record as the New York Knicks. The Knicks are going into the
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  game there were 30 and 18. Now they're 31 and 18, tied with
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  the Celtics. The the Lakers are 29 and 18 and
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  they were the 60. The Western Conference is so
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  much better than Easter conference.
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  Very top heavy the Western Conference.
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  But even the bottom half of the Western Conference is better
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  than the bottom half of the East.
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  The East is so very bad on the bottom half.
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  There might be four teams that can win an NBA championship in
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  the Easter Conference. So it's interesting, if you're a
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  Knick fan, you're sitting here and you're wondering how the
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  Knicks are going to figure out how they can make a trade at the
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  trade deadline. And here's another thing, if
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  you're, if you're a Knick fan and you're wondering where they
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  can go in the trade market, you can go out after those second
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  tier players. Do you bring in a do you maybe
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  make a move and bring in John Moran?
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  Could you could you get John Moran for not too much that you
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  have to give up because the Knicks have quality bench
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  players? Do you want to ruin this this
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  team, the way they're playing and and their bench players are?
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  Do you go after John Moran and take a shot at him and and maybe
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  maybe strike gold because speedy if you look at this team and and
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  and the Knicks, if they have a chance to win a championship,
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  it's this year because the Indiana Pacers are going to be
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  better next year and Indiana they're going to have a top ten
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  pick this year and they're getting their superstar back in
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  heart. Who's who's point guard
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  Halberton. I can't I'm trying to think, but
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  that's why I asked you Hal Burton, who tours Achilles in
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  the playoffs last year in the NBA Finals and in game seven.
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  I, I, I think Indiana Pacers are there are borderline playoff
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  team. I wouldn't be surprised if they
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  get a nice pick and they and they draft right.
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  They're good organization. They know how to draft.
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  Look at the players they have practically every single one of
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  their players are draft picks. So and Hal Burton wasn't a draft
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  pick. They got him from Sacramento and
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  they they struck gold with Halperton.
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  I, I, I still think Indiana's is a far fetched team to make the
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  playoffs. So it's interesting.
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  It's very, very interesting. We're still waiting for Quinton
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  Coleman. Having some tech issues right
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  now trying to get his, He's rebooting his computer.
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  I'm trying to see if he's he's coming in or not.
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  But I believe you wanted to talk about something else that wasn't
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  on our agenda. Today, are we going to get into
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  that? Might as well while we wait.
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  All right, So I wanted to get into this and I I don't have
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  somebody could pull up what Draymond Green just said at the
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  game after the. Game following the loss of the
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  Pistons, Green got his 10th technical.
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  He told them, this is your chance to stop talking to me.
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  And then he said, I find it very ironic that I got a technical
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  foul for telling a Caucasian referee not to put his hand in
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  my face as a black man in America, don't put your hand in
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  my face. All right, so there's a double.
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  I see Quentin laughing so I want to give this take.
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  And I used to like Draymond Green as a player.
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  I really used to think that he was the best two way player in
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  the NBA. The guy could defend any
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  position. He was a big, he was a 5-6 foot
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  86 foot 9 playing Center for the Golden State Warriors at a top
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  level. You're talking about the best
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  team of this era. And he was one of the important
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  pieces. Everybody says, oh, the the the
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  Golden State Warriors could win without him.
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  That's not true. Without him, they didn't have
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  that defensive side. They didn't have that anchor.
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  Now, I I'm not saying Klay Thompson wasn't a great defender
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  at his position. He was one of the best in a
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  league when he was healthy at that position.
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  But Draymond Green was the anchor of that defense.
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  I love Draymond Green. I loved his personality.
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  I loved his his harshness on and off the court.
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  I loved how he, you know, he was the aggressive, you know,
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  stirrer. He loved to stir up crap on the
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  on the basketball court. If it wasn't with Shaquille
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  O'Neal over the years, we've seen him do it or LeBron James
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  or Adams. This guy would do anything.
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  You'd step on your balls, he would kick you in the balls, he
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  would grab you, he would punch you, he would elbow you.
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  This man would do anything on a basketball court.
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  And you liked it. I loved his aggressive play
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  because I love Dennis Rodman. He was my favorite player, one
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  of my favorite players growing up as a basketball fan.
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  But here's the thing, over the last couple of years, this man
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  has been on podcasts. He has his own podcast and he
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  he's outlandishly stupid. He goes out there, he says
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  stupid things and he he obviously has a great following
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  and I'm not saying that this guy isn't a likable person and you
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  wouldn't you wouldn't go and read some of the stuff that he
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  said on and off the court. But this is the same guy that
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  went on Snapchat and took a picture of his private area and
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  posted it same guy and then take it off and then claims it wasn't
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  him. It's a big problem when you
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  think about it, with the personality that he is.
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  And then over the last couple of years, I listened to his
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  podcast. He likes to throw people under
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  the bus. He likes to throw teammates
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  under the bus. There's a reason why Jordan
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  Poole is no longer on that roster was because of him.
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  Everybody likes to point their finger at Klay Thompson.
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  And by the way, Klay Thompson and Draymond Green never liked
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  each other. They hated each other.
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  And that's why Klay Thompson, when he became a free agent the
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  second time around, he didn't want to be on this team anymore.
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  It was it was done. Now I, I, I know Fish.
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  I, I know what you're saying. I have to finish this and I'm, I
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  want to finish what I have to say here.
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  Draymond Green 48 hours ago, 48 hours ago, said this about a
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  referee. I don't care if he's purple.
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  I don't care if he's Green. He did not put his hand in
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  Draymond Green's face. If anybody seen the video, his
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  hand was under his waist. It wasn't even over the
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  shoulder. Think about that.
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  And then he says this Caucasian referee putting his hand in my
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  face and and then he talks about his race.
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  Draymond, we know what what you are, OK?
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  We we don't have to say that. I respect you no matter what you
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  are. You could be Chinese, You could
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  be purple. You could be Jewish.
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  I'm Jewish. I don't care what your race is,
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  but for you to bring it up and that you to put it out there, it
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  would piss anybody off. It would piss an African
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  American off for you to bring up your race.
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  This is the NBA, OK? If you in the NFL.
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  Quinton. Quinton knows.
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  Quinton played in football. You have Caucasians, you have
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  white guys on your team, you have Asian guys on your team,
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  you have Hawaiian guys on your team, you have Jewish guys on
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  your team. We all know that.
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  Why do you have to mention it? What is the point of mentioning
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  it? Because you want to bring out
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  your political ways. You want to bring out your
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  personality, for people to hate you more so you can sell more
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  podcast sponsorships. It's pathetic and the NBA should
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  suspend this guy. He should be suspended.
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  As a matter of fact, they should have him on national television
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  apologize to the referee that did not put his hand in his
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  face. He called the technical foul
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  because Draymond Green, when he's on the basketball court,
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  and This is why he gets more technical fouls than any player
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  besides one, which we know who we're talking.
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  Brooks is the only one that gets more technical fouls than him
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  every single year. And why?
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  Because Draymond Green doesn't know how to shut his mouth.
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  You're a professional basketball player.
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  You're making millions and millions of dollars.
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  And nobody wants to hear what your thoughts are about your
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  race or anybody else's race. All I want to know is if you
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  could play basketball again. And then he comes out after the
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  fact when the media asked him after that whole take and said,
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  well, what do you think he said? Or what do you think he was
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  doing? Or what do you what do you want
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  him to say? And then he says, well, one of
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  the media guys asked him is like, well, there's rumors that
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  you're going to be traded. I don't care about being traded.
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  Next question. He had nothing, nothing to say
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  about the trade, but everything to say about what the referee
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  was trying to do, control the game.
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  Because Draymond Green, when he's on the court and he's not
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  getting a call right or he's not getting the call on his side,
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  he's bitching and moaning about it.
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  It's disrespectful for the game. And this is the problem with the
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  NBA. This is the problem because you
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  have these guys, Adam Silver allows these NBA players to run
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  the league. LeBron James has run the league.
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  Yeah, had Kyrie Irving run the league, anti-Semitic views this
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  guy that the NBA sat down with this guy, sat down with this guy
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  and had a conversation and made Kyrie Irving apologize to the
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  Brooklyn Net fans, who by the way, are all Jewish people.
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  The NBA, the the Nets are playing in Brooklyn.
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  There are more of a Jewish following.
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  All their ticket holders are Jewish and he apologize,
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  apologize to the net, the net fans.
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  Then he gets traded and then when he goes and he he gets his
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  jersey and he's he gets his jersey from Mark Cuban.
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  And before he could say anything, he says, oh, by the
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  way, I take back what I said, my apologies to, you know, to my
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  anti-Semitic views. That was my opinion.
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  And I have a right. I'm American.
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  I have a right of my own opinion.
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  And the NBA didn't suspend him for that.
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  And that's the problem with the NBA.
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  That's why a lot of people don't watch the NBA like they used to,
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  because there's no like Michael Jordan's in the league anymore.
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  Guys that don't want to hear about politic, political views
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  or, or, or race or any of that stuff.
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  All he cared about is basketball.
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  Straight up basketball. That's why Michael Jordan is the
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  greatest basketball player of all time, because he was a
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  killer. He'd get on the basketball court
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  and he'd go out there and show you why he's the greatest
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  basketball player in the league. Nobody.
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  Have you ever heard Michael Jordan's speedy?
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  Ever hear Michael Jordan talk about his political views ever?
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  Do you ever hear about Michael Jordan talking about his
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  political views now that he's not in the NBA after 20 years
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  being retired? Have you or have you not?
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  But LeBron James does, Kawhi Leonard does, Kevin Durant does,
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  all of them do, because they use the platform to, to instead of
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  using their own platform, they have their own social medias,
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  their own Twitters, their own Instagrams.
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  But during the game and after the game, when they're talking
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  to the media, they know that everybody is watching people.
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  Kids, young kids are looking up to them.
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  And they heard, you hear a guy like Draymond Green come out
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  and, and, and talk about race when probably 75% of the people
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  that are buying tickets are Caucasian white.
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  I mean, how does that make Golden State feel when they're
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  trying to sell tickets to corporations?
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  I got it, Fish stop. I'm tired of it.
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  The NBA needs to control what's going on with the players.
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  If the players are going to go out there and use their platform
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  to sell their own product or sell whatever they think in
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  their political views, the NBA needs to suspend these guys.
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  We are now. We are now talking to former New
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  York Jets defensive end our friend Quentin.
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  Go do it. What's up?
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  Yeah. I'm so happy to be back with the
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  crew. What's up?
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  That's right. No Jabba, because he's been in
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  New York for the last couple of days.
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  So Jabba, Jabba came out, he was working for, you know, resigning
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  autographs at the what do they call it, the pinstripe ball or
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  whatever they call it so that all the, all the Yankees go to,
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  you know, if they have like a, it's a three day thing and each
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  day they have specific Yankees that come down and sign
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  autographs. Jabba went, he did it on
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  Saturday, on Friday he was working with Barstool.
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  They were doing some kind of recording thing.
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  So Jabba flew out and I actually, me and Jabba met up at
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  American Whiskey was the first time we actually met.
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  We've been digital pen pals for the last year and a half, so it
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  was the first time we met. And then Jabba trying to shoot,
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  shoot the, you know, the crap and trying to make fun of my
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  size. And I'm like, dude, you're 6.
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  You're 63. I'm 5/10 and 1/4.
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  And he's, and he started making fun.
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  I was like, dude, you're only four inches bigger than me.
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  You're not that much bigger than me.
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  Like you quit, quit. Cute.
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  Yeah, yeah. He forgot about the quarter.
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  Quit. He forgot about the quarter.
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  I mean seriously think about it. I, I'm not, I'm not a big
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  talker. I'm, I'm, I'm muscular, I'm a
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  big guy. I'm two.
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  I, I, I used to be 230. I lost about 30 lbs over the
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  last, the last, I would say the last 10 months I've been taking
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  care of myself. Stop eating sugar drinks.
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  I was pre diabetic as everybody is when you get to this age 5.8.
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  If you're in America, you. Predat Yeah.
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  I mean, because we like our food, man.
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  I like my ice cream at, you know, 11:00 at night, man.
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  I mean, I got my. By the way, what is your
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  favorite ice cream? I am a butter pecan guy.
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  Butter pecan. That's my grandfather's favorite
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  so. I'm a mint chocolate chip guy,
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  so I like mints. So that's my thing.
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  I like it. And listen, everybody said, you
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  know, my girlfriend says it's like a green, it looks like
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  green chip. That's what she says when she
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  looks at it with like things hanging out of it.
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  I it doesn't taste like that. It's a nice tasty, sweet taste.
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  Anyways, I had to ask you that question, but it does not taste
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  like toothpaste. Fish it definitely.
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  Doesn't that's a good capacity, No.
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  It doesn't because it depends on what you get now a friendlies it
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  has a little bit of a different taste.
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  Turkey Hills different the Bunny 1 is.
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  Depends on the brand. Yeah, I haven't had a lot of
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  brands so, but So what brand do you suggest that doesn't taste
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  like toothpaste? You're, you're probably, you
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  know, my, my friends, one of my friends love coffee ice cream
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  and I don't like coffee, so I couldn't even.
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  I like coffee. I don't know about coffee.
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  Oh, it's terrible, man. And even the smell of it, it
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  gets me sick to my stomach. I, I was at the, I was at Carvel
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  the other day and I see this, these two older people, they're
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  going up there and, and, and they're asked for hard ice cream
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  and they're looking at it like, give me that coffee chocolate
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  chip. I was like coffee, chocolate
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  chip. I almost threw up.
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  And then then the guy that owns the place, because he always
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  hooks me up on Wednesday. Mike, we love you over here.
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  He hooks me up with, you know, a lot of ice cream.
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  I I, I make a joke. I'm like, who buys chocolate
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  chip coffee? I mean, it's just a lot of
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  people. It's a very popular, you know,
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  taste. It's like, yeah, it looks like,
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  it looks like crap. In a ice coffee is popular, so I
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  believe it. It's disgusting man.
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  I don't understand that part. Like ice coffee just doesn't
• 19:42
  make sense. I like how you say it.
• 19:43
  Ice, coffee, coffee. You know, you don't use the
• 19:47
  coffee like coffee, coffee. My girlfriend, she's got that
• 19:50
  Brooklyn accent. Coffee.
• 19:55
  Believe that? Yeah.
• 19:56
  Coffee. Yeah, coffee.
• 19:58
  Coffee. That's the the Carolina way of
• 20:00
  speaking. Yeah, yeah.
• 20:03
  Give me a coffee if you Yeah, I'm at Starbucks.
• 20:06
  Coming out now. You know when we say Starbucks,
• 20:09
  you call it Starbucks. Box.
• 20:13
  Like, like a box. Starbucks.
• 20:15
  Yeah, Starbucks. Let's go to Starbucks.
• 20:17
  Anyways, we are talking to former New York Chats defensive
• 20:20
  end, our friend Quinton Coupost. Now, Quinton, we had a bet.
• 20:25
  We had a bet last time you were on the show about the Gremlin.
• 20:30
  OK, we had a bet. There was some conditions too
• 20:35
  though. But go ahead, I'm going to let
• 20:37
  you live. Go ahead.
• 20:38
  Now he did play 10 games, my friend, he did anything.
• 20:41
  He played 10 games so. But what was the conditions?
• 20:45
  I don't remember what the conditions were.
• 20:46
  What were the conditions? Well, the main bet was he
• 20:49
  wouldn't get an. Interception.
• 20:50
  I have to find the conditions. I don't remember the conditions.
• 20:52
  What were the conditions? The conditions if he just played
• 20:55
  DB, it wasn't if he I told you he was going to fail at doing
• 20:58
  this 2 two way thing in the NFL. Yeah, he did.
• 21:02
  No, I remember that. But we knew he wasn't going to
• 21:03
  play just DB. We knew that.
• 21:05
  Was my condition, like if, if we we expected him to play both,
• 21:09
  but we didn't. I mean, that was before the
• 21:11
  season, so we didn't know. Yeah, I was hoping that they
• 21:14
  would be, you know, sensible and say, hey, you're going to be
• 21:19
  ADB. But they wanted to try the whole
• 21:21
  two way player and it just was it was a crash out.
• 21:24
  I mean, every former player was saying the same as that thing
• 21:28
  like you. Who do you think this this isn't
• 21:30
  Colorado? Like you're not.
• 21:32
  It's not going to happen. You know, we had four year
• 21:35
  Luiken and and I know you know who he is.
• 21:37
  He's one of the best linebackers in the NFL.
• 21:39
  He came on the show last week and I brought up Travis the
• 21:42
  Gremlin Hunter and he looked at me.
• 21:44
  He was like, well, I've never heard that.
• 21:45
  I said go look at. It's all over social media now.
• 21:47
  I gave him a nickname now people are using on their stories.
• 21:50
  The Gremlin. The gremlin and and by the way,
• 21:53
  we we showed him the photo, he kind of giggled at it.
• 21:56
  He says, he says you don't know him yet.
• 21:59
  You have to understand him as a person before you can judge him.
• 22:02
  And I said, well, when you go out there when I was at the
• 22:04
  Heisman Trophy dinner and you bring up the New York Jets and
• 22:07
  say, hey, you don't want, you don't want to play for The Jets.
• 22:10
  The Jets are a terrible organization.
• 22:12
  Well, that's great for you to say.
• 22:13
  You're also playing for an organization that has failed
• 22:15
  every single year too. When was the Jacksonville
• 22:18
  Jaguars ever a winning organization?
• 22:20
  They've never even won a Super Bowl.
• 22:21
  So for him to come out and say, well, The Jets are terrible
• 22:24
  organization, yeah, they're terrible, just as bad as the
• 22:26
  Jackson Jaguars. So I, I and by the way,
• 22:30
  Jacksonville didn't start playing good football until he
• 22:33
  was done for the season. That was when they started
• 22:37
  picking up the game and, and started playing really good
• 22:39
  football. And I, I have to say something.
• 22:41
  Trevor Lawrence looked like a competent quarterback.
• 22:43
  So. But that's just my opinion.
• 22:45
  So you were right about it. But I, I want to get into The
• 22:46
  Jets because you're a former Jet.
• 22:50
  I'm sure you have your own opinion.
• 22:51
  I've checked out some of your post over the last couple of
• 22:54
  weeks, So and I, me and you are friends and I as a friend, I
• 22:58
  want to get in to what you think is going on with the New York
• 23:01
  Jets. Aaron Glenn was interviewing
• 23:05
  Wink Martindale. He had him in once and he told
• 23:07
  him that he's going to run the defense.
• 23:09
  Then he told Wink Martindale on his own penny to fly back.
• 23:13
  He wanted to interview him for a second time.
• 23:15
  He told Wink that he's calling the plays.
• 23:18
  He would be the number two guy. You know, you know, mixing it
• 23:21
  around now, when you hear something you say, you when you
• 23:24
  hear a coach like that come out. Now, we all know the Aaron
• 23:26
  Rodgers story before the season started.
• 23:29
  He did the same thing to Aaron Rodgers.
• 23:31
  He told Aaron Rodgers to come fly over here because he wanted
• 23:35
  to talk to him and then told him once he walked through the door,
• 23:37
  you're no longer going to be a part of this organization.
• 23:40
  We're going we're going with another roster spot.
• 23:42
  We're going with Justin Fields or whatever.
• 23:44
  We're going with a new quarterback.
• 23:45
  When you hear that when you when you're interviewing for a
• 23:49
  coaching job or you're you're a quarterback looking to come back
• 23:53
  and you hear that from your coach, are you going to trust
• 23:55
  that this coach is going to put you in the right position to
• 23:57
  succeed? And do you trust this coach
• 23:59
  moving forward with your organization, yes or no?
• 24:02
  No, not for me. I mean, because I mean, well,
• 24:05
  we're hearing the same things when it comes to Aunt Glenn,
• 24:08
  when it comes to his attitude, when it comes to his
• 24:10
  personality, his character. And like, I don't know him well
• 24:14
  enough to like very well judge him on that.
• 24:16
  Like I've had interactions with him, always been a a very overly
• 24:20
  comforted horror type guy. I could take that hit or miss,
• 24:24
  You know, I, I got to know you to kind of like really give you
• 24:27
  that before judgement in regards to who I believe you to be.
• 24:31
  But I mean you just gave 2 examples of the same type
• 24:34
  character issue that everybody's been complaining about.
• 24:37
  You know, there was Jets fans that was like he was too
• 24:40
  arrogant, you know, coming in, you know, they had issues with
• 24:44
  him coming in about his arrogance and things of that
• 24:46
  nature. So to me I think that is a red
• 24:50
  flag. That is a huge red flags and the
• 24:52
  fact that you are playing with people's emotions and emotions
• 24:58
  during this process says more about you than it does about,
• 25:02
  you know, them trying to get a job.
• 25:04
  Q When you look at all the coaches that turned down, even
• 25:09
  interviewing with The Jets, Jon Gruden was a guy that The Jets
• 25:12
  really liked. Jon Gruden has not coached in
• 25:15
  the NFL since that scandal of the text messages or emails that
• 25:20
  were going on. He sued the NFL.
• 25:22
  He won the obviously against the NFL and nobody's hired him as
• 25:27
  the offensive coordinator or as a coach.
• 25:29
  Finally, the The Jets wanted to interview him.
• 25:31
  He probably would have won The Jets over and Aaron Glenn over
• 25:34
  as their offensive coordinator. He told The Jets to go bug off.
• 25:38
  He had no interest in interviewing for that offensive
• 25:40
  coordinator job. Do you believe the reason why he
• 25:44
  decided not to even sit down and have a conversation with the New
• 25:47
  York Jets is because of Aaron Glenn?
• 25:49
  For sure what you know, based out we are we are brotherhood,
• 25:53
  we're fraternity players talk to coaches, coaches talk to
• 25:56
  players. The gas are kind of like the
• 25:58
  middle people that kind of facilitate messages and, you
• 26:03
  know, tell the players that they're hearing theirs, tell the
• 26:05
  coaches that they're seeing this SYZ.
• 26:07
  So when you hear that and you hearing all these different
• 26:11
  things, Jon Gruden is a is a man's man, He's a man's coach.
• 26:14
  He's not he's not he's a Afro type coach.
• 26:16
  He's not going to allow and Glenn to kind of talk down on
• 26:20
  him in a sense even if he got the head coach position.
• 26:23
  And I think that's the issue not only just with Aaron Glenn.
• 26:26
  I just think that's the issue with The Jets organization
• 26:29
  overall, which is the reason why you can.
• 26:31
  We've had so many great talents and so many semi orchestrated,
• 26:37
  well put together teams, but we can't never get across the edge.
• 26:41
  We can't never get over that hump and it's because we don't
• 26:43
  got no culture. I, I want to mention like kind
• 26:46
  of the process that we've seen The Jets kind of reinventing the
• 26:49
  wheel at times. I think since you, since they
• 26:51
  let you go, you went to Miami. I think since then we've seen a
• 26:54
  lot of it where, oh, Adam Gase go, went to hire Joe Douglas
• 26:57
  after they fired Mike Mccagan after the draft.
• 26:59
  And then you look at obviously 7 coaches getting fired out of
• 27:03
  nowhere this offseason. Like you think their Jets are
• 27:05
  trying to like, they're trying to, like, reinvent the wheel too
• 27:08
  much with a lot of their decisions.
• 27:10
  They don't have a culture, so it's unstable and all their
• 27:14
  ways. Like basically at the end of the
• 27:16
  day, like they, it's like you make irrational decisions.
• 27:19
  You're not, you're not putting the right people in the right
• 27:22
  place. It's like keep hiring your
• 27:24
  friends and thinking that they're going to do a good job
• 27:26
  because they're your friends instead of hiring the right
• 27:28
  people that understand personnel that understand football from an
• 27:32
  S as a nose position, you know, and understand how to
• 27:35
  orchestrate and create a culture.
• 27:38
  It is, it's not a it's not rocket science, but because you
• 27:43
  just keep hiring or put like you just keep, you know, filling
• 27:49
  positions is what I would call it, you know what I'm saying?
• 27:51
  Like you just put people in position.
• 27:52
  They're getting the titles and things that nature.
• 27:54
  But there's no a real game plan. There's no agenda.
• 27:57
  That resume may say, Oh yeah, XYZ, he's did this, he's been
• 28:01
  there, he's coached here, whatnot.
• 28:03
  But you're not putting the right people in the right place.
• 28:06
  And I don't think Aaron Glenn is a head coach.
• 28:07
  I just think he's a good defensive coordinator.
• 28:09
  We are talking. That was a bad hit anyway.
• 28:12
  We are talking to former New York Jets defensive and our
• 28:14
  Frank Quinn couples. You know, Quentin, the New York
• 28:18
  Jets over the years have never bought a veteran coach.
• 28:21
  Adam Gates is probably the only veteran coach they've hired.
• 28:24
  And he was only a veteran because Miami fired him.
• 28:27
  And he he wasn't there with Miami for very long.
• 28:29
  I think he was there for three or four years.
• 28:31
  I it wasn't an accomplished coach.
• 28:34
  Why do you think the New York Jets over the years have not
• 28:38
  brought in a veteran coach, an accomplished coach that have won
• 28:42
  somewhere or some other place or in a place where you know he was
• 28:47
  positioned to succeed when he went to The Jets?
• 28:51
  Well, I think it's the same thing.
• 28:52
  It goes like, so veteran coaches want to come in and establish
• 28:56
  like the culture that they're going to run the the the program
• 28:59
  that they're going to run. And I don't think The Jets allow
• 29:02
  that to happen. And I think they follow the
• 29:04
  trend of it's a young man's league.
• 29:07
  And so it's it's something that is they they love potential and
• 29:10
  they love the build up. They don't actually want to
• 29:14
  establish the culture. Like so for instance, if you
• 29:16
  look at the Steelers, right, like and you look at Mike Tomlin
• 29:20
  having a 20 year career where it with no losing seasons, there
• 29:25
  was a lot of bad teams within that, but there was a culture
• 29:28
  there that kept everything intact.
• 29:31
  It's like Michael Jordan that she was talking about earlier.
• 29:33
  It's like running the triangle offense.
• 29:35
  It's like you can give it, you know, Michael Jordan, his praise
• 29:38
  and his flowers. But when you run it, when you
• 29:41
  actually understand basketball, are you looking at how that
• 29:43
  triangle offense is developing and guys are buying in?
• 29:46
  Dennis Robin is not out there trying to score 30 and he's
• 29:49
  getting rebounds and he playing defense.
• 29:51
  And Steve Kerr ain't trying to be, you know, this superhero.
• 29:55
  He's just doing what he's supposed to and being ready for
• 29:57
  the shot. Those those if those things
• 30:00
  matter and jets haven't established a culture, we don't
• 30:03
  know what the identity of The Jets is.
• 30:05
  And be honest, the fans got more of a culture than the actual
• 30:09
  team and the organization. Like y'all at least y'all
• 30:11
  understand y'all role, position and and places and how to, you
• 30:15
  know, organize to be be organized together.
• 30:18
  The the organization overall is the wrong people in the wrong
• 30:21
  places and the wrong people got the ears of the people who are
• 30:26
  making decision and they're just making horrible decisions from a
• 30:30
  Foreign Office stands and from a coach stance and you give up way
• 30:34
  too quick. All right, so you, you brought
• 30:36
  up the fans and, and a lot of these media guys and I, I can't
• 30:39
  stand half of them and, and honestly, they don't know what
• 30:41
  the hell they're talking about. And the fans I think is the
• 30:44
  biggest problem right now for the New York Jets, when the fans
• 30:47
  are starting to speak, get rid of the coach or get rid of the
• 30:50
  offensive coordinator or get rid of the players.
• 30:52
  Then Woody Johnson steps in and he breaks bread with the fans
• 30:56
  and he does whatever the fans want.
• 30:58
  And now I think that's the problem is the fans think that
• 31:01
  they know more than the organization.
• 31:02
  The fans think or the media thinks that making this move is
• 31:06
  the best move for the organization.
• 31:08
  And I think over the years as a Jet fan has been a big problem
• 31:12
  for this organization. If if ownership just understands
• 31:15
  to bring in AGM, if you're hiring AGM to do his job, let
• 31:18
  him run the organization. James Dolan.
• 31:21
  The reason why the Knicks are successful with Leon Rose in
• 31:25
  Worldwide W is because James Dolan finally gave the reins to
• 31:31
  Leon Rose and he trusts Leon Rose that he can run this
• 31:34
  organization. He doesn't have to step in to
• 31:36
  break bread with the fans or or you know what, I don't like this
• 31:40
  player, get rid of him. I don't want him here like we've
• 31:42
  seen him do many, many times. Do you think that maybe
• 31:46
  ownership needs to kind of step away and stop listening to the
• 31:50
  fans, stop listening to media, all these stupid radio shows,
• 31:54
  these Jet podcasts that think they know more than everybody
• 31:57
  else? Do you think maybe ownership
• 32:00
  should let Moji do what he was hired to do?
• 32:03
  Ideally you would think that would be the case, but it's
• 32:05
  still a business. So like he's he has to 10 to the
• 32:11
  fans and hear them out to keep them buying tickets to keep them
• 32:15
  engaged and to keep them going back and forth in regards to,
• 32:19
  you know, merch ticket sales, season ticket holders.
• 32:23
  Hold on, hold on, hold on one second.
• 32:25
  Q. So you're going to tell me that
• 32:27
  Kansas City and Andy Reid and that organization is listening
• 32:31
  to the fans? They're not in that, they're not
• 32:34
  in The Jets position. That's totally different.
• 32:36
  That's again, they have a culture, they have
• 32:38
  understanding. There's already.
• 32:40
  They were you. They were in that position.
• 32:44
  They were. Hurt.
• 32:45
  They were hurt, that's right, because they finally brought in
• 32:48
  a competent coach that knew what he was and what knew what he was
• 32:51
  doing. So maybe if The Jets did
• 32:53
  something like that, maybe next time, if Aaron Glenn fails,
• 32:57
  bring in a John Gruden, tell John and you, you and Moji are
• 33:00
  going to be working. I'm not against them bringing in
• 33:02
  John Gruden. I don't think they would do it.
• 33:04
  That's what I'm saying. So you in the front office, I
• 33:07
  trust you to make that decision to do it.
• 33:09
  The front office that they have are going to say, hey, we got to
• 33:12
  go young because that's the trend.
• 33:14
  Got to go young, got to get one of these winning offensive
• 33:17
  coordinators. That's that went too deep in the
• 33:20
  playoffs. It's the same trend.
• 33:23
  So that's what I'm saying. So they're not trying to
• 33:25
  establish a culture of trying to actually win another Super Bowl.
• 33:29
  They are literally just being complacent and just saying, hey,
• 33:33
  we're what we're what, 3 or 4 on the scale in regards to the most
• 33:38
  the most money franchise in the league.
• 33:40
  So it's not it's not it's not hurting their bottom line and
• 33:44
  it's OK, you're in the biggest media market.
• 33:47
  So the mediocrity is, is a different level versus if you
• 33:51
  was Cleveland, you know what I mean?
• 33:53
  And you don't get talked about until football season.
• 33:56
  We still here right now talking about The Jets and trying to fix
• 33:58
  their issues for them, and they're not listening.
• 34:01
  All right, so there there's a guy who's been all over the
• 34:04
  media. He does a show on ESPN New York
• 34:07
  and and that's Bart Scott. I know you know who he is.
• 34:10
  You played with him with Rex Ryan.
• 34:12
  He's a Rex Ryan guy. He's come out over the last
• 34:16
  couple of weeks saying that he wants a job with The Jets.
• 34:19
  Pay me $1,000,000. I'll come and be your defensive
• 34:21
  coin area. I'll be your linebacker coach.
• 34:24
  Do you believe that Bart Scott, who has no experience as a
• 34:27
  coach, would work over there with Aaron Glenn?
• 34:31
  Tell me why this would work Because honestly, I love Bart.
• 34:34
  I I think he's a unique person out.
• 34:36
  He's a horrible media guy. He's not an analyst.
• 34:39
  He doesn't know anything. He doesn't know anything but
• 34:42
  football, but he's talking about basketball, hockey.
• 34:45
  Do you think I'm taking advice from Bart Scott about hockey,
• 34:49
  the Rangers and the Islanders? And I'm listening to this guy
• 34:52
  talk about hockey like he knows something.
• 34:54
  Right, which is where it tell you where his focus is.
• 34:56
  No, Dave Harris was our middle. He called out of place.
• 35:01
  He made out adjustments. You know me and he don't have
• 35:03
  the best relationship, but I mean, I'll be truthfully honest.
• 35:06
  Like he what? What would he possibly bring
• 35:09
  outside of, I mean, the individual coach, like little
• 35:13
  linebacker, assistant coach, you know, personnel coach, I give
• 35:16
  him that, yeah, he got experience and he's good enough
• 35:18
  to be able to earn that position.
• 35:20
  But a coach like someone who actually has input and is making
• 35:26
  decisions? No, that's what I'm saying.
• 35:29
  You said dumb. That sounds like why would we
• 35:32
  even consider that? Like he hasn't, you know, he's
• 35:36
  not breaking that down on on ESPN.
• 35:39
  He's not showing us no type of giving us no inclination that
• 35:42
  he's actually knowledgeable about the game of football.
• 35:46
  He just know what he knows, and that's OK.
• 35:49
  But I would never like, I would never consider like, Oh yeah,
• 35:52
  Bart Scott a good high year for it.
• 35:55
  Did you adjust? What are we talking about?
• 36:00
  Really. Him.
• 36:01
  Bart Scott. Yeah, no, it'd be a joke.
• 36:04
  I mean, we'd be laughed at even more.
• 36:05
  Like it'd just be like, these guys just really don't get it.
• 36:08
  They just doing whatever, just waste their money.
• 36:11
  He's definitely a man, he's definitely a mad backer, that's
• 36:14
  for sure. And that could be beneficial,
• 36:17
  but. How, how, how would that be
• 36:22
  beneficial to hear? Bart Scott.
• 36:24
  Like a individual talent, like a young guy that's coming in to
• 36:28
  lead him, being able to train him to be a little bit more
• 36:30
  physical, to be able to attack the and rerun have run reason
• 36:36
  you know playing zone coverage and things.
• 36:37
  And yeah, I could see him. He.
• 36:41
  Doesn't even know how to finish a sentence on the radio.
• 36:44
  You're going to tell me? That he used to do this.
• 36:50
  I'm telling you exactly what they're going to do.
• 36:53
  They're like, hey, young fella, you got to, you see that pulling
• 36:55
  guard? When they put that guard pull,
• 36:57
  he's telling you where the ball going.
• 36:59
  You got to get to hit that gap like that.
• 37:01
  Don't take a rocket size. You can do that.
• 37:03
  Like you know it ain't, you know, I want to pay him a
• 37:05
  million, but that's another thing.
• 37:08
  But I give him a couple thousand to come out there every now and
• 37:11
  then to say something, help encourage the guys speaking, get
• 37:16
  better into something. Let's let's just do some coaches
• 37:18
  that didn't know what they're doing.
• 37:19
  So I know you're I know you're a Steelers fan.
• 37:21
  So obviously Mike Tomlin stepping down and now they hire
• 37:24
  Mike McCarthy. So first, first part of it.
• 37:26
  Are you surprised Mike Tomlin stepped down and do you think
• 37:28
  he'll coach another team maybe in the next couple years?
• 37:31
  And also Mike McCarthy going there.
• 37:32
  Do you like to hire and could that keep Aaron Rodgers there?
• 37:36
  So that was a couple questions. All right, so.
• 37:39
  Tomlin first. What do you think he'll coach?
• 37:41
  Maybe in? A few years.
• 37:41
  Or so Tommy step stepping down was just a nice way of getting
• 37:44
  fired. Like that was just the political
• 37:47
  way of leaving. He had to at least win one
• 37:50
  playoff game to have any type of leverage.
• 37:53
  So that's their nice way of keeping his, you know,
• 37:58
  reputation. Yeah, reputation the same and up
• 38:02
  in the his. Aura.
• 38:04
  His Tomlin aura. Yeah, to keep that going or
• 38:07
  whatever. Do I think he will coach again?
• 38:11
  At first when I saw, you know, the news or whatever I was
• 38:14
  thinking, I was like, yeah, but you got to think about 20 years,
• 38:19
  all the one team to come back. It would have to be like a
• 38:25
  special unique situation. And even then, I really don't
• 38:28
  think he got more than two to five years left in coaching.
• 38:32
  Now, I know you look at like, you know, Andy Reid or whatever
• 38:34
  you like, yo, he's coaching forever.
• 38:36
  But it's like I just look at him and I don't see it like where he
• 38:42
  got more than two to five if he was a comeback.
• 38:45
  But if I if I'm playing it like I'm saying it, I don't think
• 38:50
  he'd do it. I don't think he'd do.
• 38:52
  I think he may go to like TV and then do be in like an advisory
• 38:56
  role for somebody. But I don't see him coming back
• 39:00
  as a coach. I just don't.
• 39:01
  And Mike McCarthy like the pick I.
• 39:03
  Do too. I don't think he, I don't think
• 39:05
  Aaron Rodgers come back neither. Yeah, I think Aaron Rodgers is
• 39:08
  done. He had a good season.
• 39:09
  If Tomlin would have stayed one more year, I could see Aaron
• 39:11
  Rodgers being emotional and coming back for one last year.
• 39:15
  But I don't think there's nothing left on the table for
• 39:19
  Aaron. I don't think he's in in a
• 39:22
  situation where he can actually help A-Team get to the Super
• 39:25
  Bowl. Well.
• 39:25
  He does. He's got his made-up wife.
• 39:27
  I mean, he's got married in the offseason.
• 39:30
  Nobody's met her, nobody's ever seen her but I.
• 39:34
  Know how you do it, especially in Calvin.
• 39:36
  He named his hand Brittany, and he married his aunt and he put a
• 39:39
  ring on it. That's what he did.
• 39:41
  I mean, he uses his hands in many different ways.
• 39:44
  I mean, in his pants, you know, on a football.
• 39:47
  So maybe that's what he named his.
• 39:49
  His new wife is him. Hi.
• 39:50
  Hi, Brittany. How are you?
• 39:52
  Yeah, we got people identifying as different things these days.
• 39:55
  Yeah, you're. Absolutely.
• 39:57
  The situation might be a situation he's in.
• 40:00
  I don't know. You never know.
• 40:02
  There's no limit no more. It's like he can go either way.
• 40:05
  Bad Bunny said he's going. He's going to be on the stage
• 40:07
  during the halftime show with a dress.
• 40:09
  Worst decision ever. That is the worst decision ever.
• 40:15
  Like it's it's a slap in the face and say, yeah, you know
• 40:18
  what, fans, we can care less about you.
• 40:21
  You know the integrity of the league.
• 40:24
  We care like we want money and we're going to do anything and
• 40:27
  anything that we can to get money.
• 40:29
  But I I will tell you this because I I do, I did hear a
• 40:32
  little bit of your taste from the beginning.
• 40:34
  I think you had a going into next season, I want you to just
• 40:38
  shift your mind from being the traditional fan to understand
• 40:42
  that this is WWF, all right? This is.
• 40:45
  Hold on, hold on, hold on hold. On this is pure entertainment.
• 40:51
  Let me tell you something. I am one of very few people.
• 40:54
  I've been doing this for almost 14 years.
• 40:56
  Q Let me let me let me throw this out to you.
• 41:00
  I am the first person before I was attacked by the media,
• 41:05
  before I was attacked by fans saying that the NFL is rigged.
• 41:09
  I've been saying this for a very long time.
• 41:12
  I've pinned it, I've pointed it out and I said, oh, that's not
• 41:16
  true. That's not true.
• 41:17
  You're out of your mind. I said the referees control the
• 41:19
  game. The NFL games are one play.
• 41:21
  You make one bad mistake, the game's over.
• 41:24
  I mean, it ends. It's it's usually within three
• 41:27
  to seven points. It's less than a touchdown.
• 41:29
  And all a referee has to do is call a bad play.
• 41:32
  Like the Broncos game. We all know that it wasn't a
• 41:35
  backward, backwards lateral. It was not he threw the ball, he
• 41:39
  over, he threw it with both hands and they called it.
• 41:42
  And and that was the touchdown that the the Patriots only
• 41:45
  needed to win the game, which cost the Broncos a chance to
• 41:48
  play in the the Super Bowl, which obviously got their
• 41:51
  offensive coordinator fired as well.
• 41:52
  So, yeah, which is crazy. And and with a third string
• 41:57
  quarterback that you know, the only, the only team that
• 42:00
  actually knew who he was with the New England Patriots, who by
• 42:03
  the way, Josh McDaniels drafted in the seventh round years
• 42:06
  before that, five years or six years before that, which we all
• 42:09
  know. And by the way, we are talking
• 42:11
  to former New York Jets defensive and our friend Quinton
• 42:13
  Couples. We love him on the show as we
• 42:15
  always invite him to come on the show.
• 42:17
  I've been saying this a long time, Quinton that I've I've
• 42:20
  always said that it's it's transition.
• 42:22
  I watch sports when I was a kid, these guys play to win.
• 42:26
  When you watch hockey, these guys would go out there and beat
• 42:28
  the hell out of each other to win the game.
• 42:30
  It's not like that anymore. They're all prima donnas.
• 42:32
  They're all like the NBA players.
• 42:35
  Michael Jordan couldn't stand the Detroit Pistons because they
• 42:37
  tried to, they tried to kill him.
• 42:39
  You know, now you know, these NBA players are each other's
• 42:43
  godfathers for each other's family members.
• 42:45
  I mean, they're best buddies. So when they're on the
• 42:48
  basketball court, they're they're hanging out with each
• 42:50
  other offset from the games of basketball.
• 42:53
  They're going out to dinner before the game.
• 42:55
  I mean, that's it's not competition anymore.
• 42:59
  Big problem. I think there's a lot.
• 43:01
  I think there was a lot of Hall of Fame guys who were absolutely
• 43:04
  good friends and hung out with each other.
• 43:07
  It's just that once then lights came on and we got in between
• 43:10
  the lines. It was kill or be killed.
• 43:13
  And so that's the difference between this generation now.
• 43:15
  Because they can't, they can't turn that switch on to be able
• 43:19
  to say like, this guy's my enemy.
• 43:21
  Like even when I play pick up, like I tell cats all the time,
• 43:24
  they like you're a whole different person.
• 43:26
  Like when you like playing the game or whatever.
• 43:28
  And I'm like, yeah, like I don't know how to be like cool with
• 43:32
  you afterwards. Like I'm I'm going at you and
• 43:35
  talking to you crazy on the court and then I'm asking you
• 43:38
  about your family when we done with the day, like after the
• 43:41
  games is over with and we about to walk out.
• 43:43
  I'm checking in on after I just mentally destroyed destroyed you
• 43:48
  in the court. You know me, but I'm not even
• 43:50
  thinking about what I did on the court, though.
• 43:52
  I'm like literally tuned out. So I'm talking to you as like, I
• 43:56
  genuinely care about you, like what's going on and just
• 43:59
  checking in with you. But if you like take a snapshot
• 44:02
  what's going on? It's like you was the most
• 44:05
  disrespectful person on the court while ago.
• 44:07
  How you just go from that to, yeah, how's the family,
• 44:10
  everything good? Like, you know, stuff like that.
• 44:12
  Like it's weird, but that's the era.
• 44:14
  Like I grew up in that era and like, that's how we operate.
• 44:17
  You know, I mean, like I would never cross that line while I'm
• 44:20
  in between the lines. Like, you know, every man has a
• 44:22
  line that you just don't cross. But this generation now you got
• 44:27
  to think, man, like it's like I said, it's not just to entertain
• 44:29
  the the NFL is rigged. It's just it just became
• 44:32
  entertainment. And so even with that, like this
• 44:35
  generation is all about entertainment.
• 44:37
  So even when you was just talking about Draymond that like
• 44:40
  you, it felt personal to you because of your your actual fan.
• 44:44
  However, he understands algorithms and he understands
• 44:51
  like if I say this, this is going to be on ESPN for the next
• 44:55
  two or three, four days, this may get me another 10 to 15,000
• 44:58
  more followers. Yeah, but that's the problem.
• 45:00
  Q They're using a platform they should not be using to do that.
• 45:04
  And, and again, the NBA should be stepping in suspending him to
• 45:08
  you know, I, I don't know, I. Mean this is what I'm saying,
• 45:10
  that the whole generation we're cooked.
• 45:13
  If you're not trying to get into the algorithm, then you're going
• 45:16
  to fall behind. So you have to say these
• 45:19
  outlandish things and the things what's going to automatically
• 45:21
  hit the algorithm? Race politics.
• 45:24
  All right. All right, all right, So these
• 45:27
  things are going to continually soon as you say something, it's
• 45:30
  going to be all over the place. All right, you know what?
• 45:33
  I. Mean, I got it.
• 45:34
  I got it. So, So what you're saying here
• 45:36
  on this show tonight is maybe I should just be outlandishly
• 45:39
  crazy, You know, go. You have to.
• 45:42
  Oh, so, so, OK, so I, I think for now on, I'm going to just
• 45:46
  talk about religion and raise and just throw it out there and
• 45:50
  hopefully it sticks ladies and. Gentlemen, if you want to get
• 45:52
  like 10 to 15,000, if you're doing it like if you were to get
• 45:55
  more followers and get more money coming in, absolutely for
• 45:58
  sure, I love it. But if you, if you were to stay
• 46:00
  true to the craft, you could do that too.
• 46:02
  It just takes you longer. That's what I'm saying.
• 46:04
  It just takes you longer to do it authentically then it does if
• 46:08
  you just keep getting algorithm. Listen, I'm as authentic as they
• 46:11
  get, my friends I. Agree, but I'm just saying I'm
• 46:15
  telling you decide that they look at it as like when you talk
• 46:18
  about the KDS and you talk about the trade mods, like we got guys
• 46:21
  who are out here wearing jewelry in the game and nobody snaps no
• 46:26
  necklace and nobody did nothing. Like, you know, like you know
• 46:31
  what it would be like if I was to hit somebody and that scene a
• 46:35
  diamond necklace or they or they showed the pad.
• 46:37
  You know what's about to happen in this place.
• 46:42
  I'm going to get all the forget the tackle.
• 46:45
  I'm trying to smash that and for sure, like I want to make sure
• 46:50
  that I do that, you know what I mean?
• 46:51
  I'm going out my way like those guys won't wearing like jewelry,
• 46:55
  like these guys are iced out and everything.
• 46:57
  And that's cool. But like that's what I'm saying.
• 47:00
  Like it's no bad intentions no more.
• 47:02
  So it's all entertainment and everybody just want clicks and
• 47:04
  money. That's it.
• 47:06
  And then now you got to start seeing people with the most
• 47:09
  followers get opportunities. Yeah.
• 47:13
  Not the people, not the athletes, just the one that got
• 47:16
  the most followers. But that's not getting to go
• 47:18
  with athletes. But I agree with you and that's
• 47:20
  the problem right now in this industry is like, it's funny and
• 47:24
  I want to I want to give a shout out to I don't use AIA lot and
• 47:27
  so I asked AI last night. So I asked AI last night, where
• 47:31
  do we rank against the best shows in America?
• 47:35
  And they put us against the best football show in America.
• 47:40
  And that's, I forget what part in something it's on.
• 47:44
  It's on Barstool. It's the number one show.
• 47:46
  It's on Netflix. They have their own, they have
• 47:49
  an opportunity. You, you could always check out
• 47:51
  the show on Netflix. So I asked them where do we rank
• 47:54
  against them seriously? And they, they, they put us in
• 47:58
  categories and they compared us and they edged us 5 to one
• 48:01
  against them. The only thing we didn't edge up
• 48:04
  edge against them was marketing and sponsorships because we're
• 48:07
  not on a big platform yet. But everything else,
• 48:10
  authenticity, personality, knowing what we're talking
• 48:14
  about, edgy, everything. They put us above practically
• 48:18
  90% of the shows in America. And that's AI looking at the
• 48:22
  analytics and looking at our show and comparing us.
• 48:25
  That's what I asked and I said, are you serious?
• 48:27
  He says absolutely serious. And then it explained to me why
• 48:31
  they chose us over them. That's amazing.
• 48:34
  When AI can tell you that, it makes you feel good, that you're
• 48:37
  doing something right and you can, you can compete and be
• 48:40
  compared to the best shows in America, but you're still not
• 48:43
  there yet. You're still not considered
• 48:45
  better than ask. US.
• 48:47
  Yes. Did you ask why?
• 48:50
  Yeah, it said. It's it's marketable.
• 48:52
  Did you ask for them to give you itemize about how to market to
• 48:55
  get these? Files 100%.
• 48:56
  We need to, we need to be signed by a major network.
• 48:58
  That's, that's really what it is.
• 49:00
  If we were on ESPN right now, if we were on the NFL Network right
• 49:04
  now, we would be the biggest show in America.
• 49:07
  I really do believe that. It's crazy to say that, and I
• 49:10
  know a lot of people. Probably saying I'm thinking
• 49:11
  about like when you start talking, I'm starting to think
• 49:13
  about like networks and stuff like that, because sometimes I
• 49:16
  think platforms matter, that obviously the bigger platforms
• 49:21
  matter, but I think that the relationship with the platform
• 49:24
  is going to continue to keep driven.
• 49:26
  You know, I mean, it's going to keep you tribe when you actually
• 49:29
  with a platform that you guys can coexist versus somebody
• 49:32
  who's just lump sum of money to be able to get their ratings and
• 49:36
  get get get their money up. We are talking to former New
• 49:40
  York Jets defensive end, our friend Quinn Culpas.
• 49:42
  And, and I agree with you and, and, and, and to me, what I
• 49:46
  really, really hate about this industry is there are guys that
• 49:50
  are in the industry that I've trained, that I've helped, and
• 49:54
  they don't even come close to the kind of product that we put
• 49:56
  out there. And they sit there, they kiss
• 49:58
  ass and whatever they do. And it bothers the hell out of
• 50:01
  me because I, you know, for 13 years, I've worked my, my tail
• 50:04
  off. And, and again, I, I've, I've
• 50:07
  spoken to agents, I've spoken to networks.
• 50:10
  Well, I've spoken to a network on comparing myself and I told,
• 50:14
  and it's crazy to say this, this guy, and he's the regional an
• 50:18
  old guy. He runs the whole radio station.
• 50:20
  I'm not going to mention the network.
• 50:22
  And I asked listen to how crazy I am when I got when I got him
• 50:26
  on the phone, I said, you know, when you retire, when you have
• 50:29
  an interview and somebody asks you what is the most important
• 50:33
  thing you did for the industry? What's the biggest thing you did
• 50:35
  for the industry? And I said, you know what you're
• 50:37
  going to say to them. And he says, what, you hired
• 50:40
  Errol Marx? And he looked at he, he started,
• 50:43
  he stopped for a second, he started giggling.
• 50:44
  And he says, wow, you really are confident that you're damn right
• 50:48
  I am. And I, I told him the straight
• 50:50
  up truth because honestly, it's not Everybody looks at content
• 50:55
  and everybody's like all these shows now are all about talking
• 50:59
  about their families, their dogs.
• 51:01
  When I'm listening to sports, I want to hear your take on the
• 51:03
  sports end. I want to, I want to laugh.
• 51:05
  I want you to give me the entertainment part of your take.
• 51:08
  But I want to hear sports. I don't want to hear about your
• 51:11
  dog taking him to the vet, putting them to sleep or
• 51:15
  shooting, you know, shooting, you know, a catheter up your ass
• 51:19
  or some stupid crap that these guys are talking about.
• 51:22
  I don't want to hear about it. I want to hear about your take.
• 51:25
  And half of these guys don't even know what the hell they're
• 51:26
  talking about. Well, they just regurgitate,
• 51:29
  Yeah, what they heard this morning, what they heard this
• 51:31
  morning, what they heard before they went on air.
• 51:33
  I don't listen to anybody, Quentin.
• 51:35
  I don't listen to anybody. You have Bart Scott.
• 51:37
  I do. I hate him.
• 51:38
  I hate him. I'm the guy that.
• 51:39
  Get it? I'm tired.
• 51:41
  All of them. Like even like, like what's your
• 51:44
  name? Ryan Taylor.
• 51:45
  Like it just talks crazy, just says all the dumbest things.
• 51:49
  But he understands algorithms. So while I used to get mad at
• 51:53
  him, I understand that he's doing whatever they take for the
• 51:55
  algorithm. He's not actually giving the
• 51:56
  good tape. If you look at like Stephen A
• 52:00
  like Stephen A, he went from actually being authentic
• 52:04
  journalism to like just hollering to now he's playing
• 52:07
  like even if you look at his not to go into the politics, but
• 52:10
  like if you go to his page and you start sending his
• 52:12
  independence, Steven A sis show, he played both sides.
• 52:17
  So he tethered to whatever. Like so say something happened
• 52:20
  with Trump or whatever, then he going to play to the Democrats
• 52:23
  and then say the Democrats do something stupid and he going to
• 52:25
  play with the Republican. He's never consistent and you
• 52:27
  don't know what he and he just says in the name of being an
• 52:30
  independent. Well, what is an independent
• 52:32
  nothing. There's no like when is when
• 52:35
  have we had an independent representation?
• 52:38
  Like, like it doesn't, it's nothing.
• 52:42
  It's literally nothing there. And so that's what I'm saying
• 52:45
  like it's just, and then he's at a place now where he got people
• 52:48
  who write for him like, you know, and give him these tapes
• 52:51
  and stuff. He's not really going to
• 52:52
  research. He got a research team and then
• 52:54
  they just doing whatever the algorithm say.
• 52:56
  So that's what I'm saying. Like all of this is just
• 52:58
  entertainment now. It's not even, and this is
• 53:00
  frustrating, frustrating me and you because we understand the
• 53:04
  actual game and we actually have a perspective that can actually
• 53:08
  be helpful to people who don't understand the game to like the
• 53:12
  general fan that just love, you know, The Jets or just love
• 53:16
  watching football. Like we can give them a
• 53:17
  perspective that they'll never understand before.
• 53:20
  And we found value in that where they just like, I just want you
• 53:23
  to click on this and stay up here for 30 seconds on this one
• 53:28
  minute clip. And then I get that, I get that
• 53:31
  rated, I get that light, I get that view and my data says that
• 53:35
  I got S amount of views today. And then I get I get a check
• 53:40
  from this platform, I get a check from that platform.
• 53:42
  Then I go to the table and I negotiate a deal with this
• 53:45
  platform and then they pay me and my ratings are go down but I
• 53:48
  already got my check. You're upsetting me here.
• 53:53
  This is. I started a podcast so I'm into
• 53:57
  it now. I started to see it.
• 53:59
  I'm loving. It, I'm loving it.
• 54:00
  Maybe you should invite me on your podcast because I'll drop
• 54:03
  the I'm going to drop the hammer on everybody.
• 54:06
  Here's my take on it. Screw Stephen A Smith, screw
• 54:09
  Bart Scott, screw them all, Pat McAfee and I.
• 54:14
  And here's the fact. Pretty good though.
• 54:15
  You don't like? Pat Pat doesn't know anything
• 54:18
  about football. When he gets into the basketball
• 54:20
  conversation, you can tell he's he's being told what to say.
• 54:24
  Listen, if I'm going to listen to somebody, I want them to
• 54:27
  actually know what they're talking about, correct?
• 54:30
  I want to. I want to hear your take.
• 54:32
  You're going to give me your take.
• 54:33
  And it's going to make sense. Now when I'm hearing Stephen A
• 54:36
  Smith tell me that Floyd Mayweather is the greatest boxer
• 54:38
  of all time when he doesn't even know who he fought his last five
• 54:41
  fights, OK, I don't want to hear it.
• 54:45
  I don't. You don't even know who he was
• 54:47
  fighting his last five fights. Again, he's a train guy.
• 54:50
  Yeah, and to me, it's pathetic. And you want to, you want to
• 54:53
  know this and this is the truth. I watch mixed martial arts and
• 54:56
  then I see Stephen A Smith at some of these events at UFC320
• 55:01
  or UFC319. What do you know about mixed
• 55:04
  martial? Arts he just got to say he's
• 55:06
  dead. Oh, it's like it's a seat
• 55:09
  filler. It's like going to the Grammys
• 55:10
  and you see somebody in there and then that's me.
• 55:12
  You don't see it. Then you see somebody in that
• 55:14
  same seat. There's just a seat filler.
• 55:15
  He's just going to you got to be in these places.
• 55:18
  That's another thing that you should do, like start going to
• 55:20
  these events, making yourself seen or whatever, because a lot
• 55:24
  of the times that's where the deals are made.
• 55:26
  Oh, I saw you at the UFC 320. Oh, yeah.
• 55:29
  Oh, I saw you at the UFC White House situation.
• 55:32
  Oh, yeah. Oh, I saw you at the
• 55:33
  inauguration. Oh, yeah, I saw you at the
• 55:35
  ESPYs. Oh yeah, I saw like, you just
• 55:37
  got to be around. Yeah, I, I just got to jump.
• 55:40
  You know, I, I should just put like, I should be like, I should
• 55:43
  get wings and I should just fly from one place to another.
• 55:46
  Got to go to San Francisco right there.
• 55:49
  It's going to be hard. I'm not going to go to San
• 55:51
  Francisco, but it's going to be terrible.
• 55:52
  No, no, no, no, we have we have Nith, you know, our our blue
• 55:56
  blazer killer as he he he flew over there and we'll let him
• 56:00
  take our credentials. I do here's what I I don't like
• 56:03
  about the NFL. And by the way, we are talking
• 56:05
  to former New York Jets defensive end, our friend
• 56:07
  Quinton Coppols. He's he's obviously starting a
• 56:09
  podcast. We love him.
• 56:11
  We love his personality. It's it's good.
• 56:13
  It's it's great. I So what I can't stand about
• 56:17
  the NFL is we went to the we were invited to the Super Bowl
• 56:20
  last year. So we went and at the last
• 56:23
  minute they told us, oh, we don't have a table for you at
• 56:25
  radio row. But when we got there, I had my
• 56:28
  executive producer fish and Nick Goody an X and I'm sorry, ex MLB
• 56:33
  player that came with us to, to help us, you know, bring, you
• 56:36
  know, different personalities to come and sit with us.
• 56:39
  So they went up there and they said, well, we were invited.
• 56:41
  Why? We have credentials, but we
• 56:43
  don't have a table. Well, if there's a table open
• 56:45
  you can sit at. So we were jumping from table to
• 56:47
  table being disrespected while we saw college students from LSU
• 56:51
  or schools we never even heard of sitting, eating their lunch,
• 56:54
  not eating, very winning. Anybody but the NF OS OK with
• 56:57
  that, but they're not OK for a top 200 show.
• 57:00
  By the way, I don't know if you know this Quinton Cole, Quinton
• 57:02
  Q. We Quinton coops, we were ranked
• 57:07
  at 107th in football shows. That's 2.5 million people in
• 57:14
  America on Spotify. Think about that.
• 57:18
  But the NFL. But screw the NFL.
• 57:20
  They didn't give us a table. They give all these other idiots
• 57:22
  tables that were ahead. Of.
• 57:25
  What happened? Who's your contact in the NFL?
• 57:27
  The. NFL they we reach out to the.
• 57:30
  Credentials. You can't reach out to the NFL
• 57:31
  like some general random guy. You got to have a contact.
• 57:35
  No, Maybe we got to go through you.
• 57:37
  How about that? You're my.
• 57:38
  Contact you're. My contact.
• 57:41
  Anybody hate me as much as I be talking bad about him?
• 57:46
  Oh. There it goes one of our
• 57:47
  interns, zoot, he says that his school St. what is that bottom
• 57:53
  adventure? They got a table, but we didn't
• 57:56
  and we're so they told me so I we reached out to them.
• 58:00
  I asked them so so I made a plan if I was going to go there this
• 58:02
  year. I had I bought mics and
• 58:04
  everything we'll do the interview standing up screw
• 58:06
  them, But you know what I said? You know what I'm not going to
• 58:08
  promote their platform. Why am I going to give them any
• 58:12
  credit when they didn't give us the credit when we we're on blue
• 58:15
  wire we're we're doing all our stuff.
• 58:17
  We're as good as anybody in the in the industry and we're not
• 58:19
  getting a table. But Saint Bonaventure has a
• 58:22
  table. Screw you, Saint Bonaventure.
• 58:25
  Screw you LSU. Up yours BYU.
• 58:30
  Kiss my. Ass, you know, yeah, you got,
• 58:32
  you got it, you got it. You get you can't take this
• 58:34
  person. You got to get out your
• 58:36
  feelings. No, I'm, I'm I'm cool, man.
• 58:38
  I'm cool. No, I no, you can feel, but you
• 58:41
  can't be in your feelings because at the end of the day,
• 58:45
  like so you again, this is just business, it's just
• 58:48
  entertainment. So that's what I'm saying like
• 58:51
  you got to turn that switch where you got to realize like,
• 58:53
  Hey, this is just how can I put this reality TV slash VR?
• 59:00
  Like you know how they were selling virtual real estate and
• 59:03
  people was actually behind me? Yeah, I have a friend that did
• 59:07
  it. This is where we at, this is who
• 59:09
  it is. This is where we at, this is the
• 59:10
  type of people that we're dealing with and you know, I
• 59:13
  mean people who are spending hundreds of thousands, millions
• 59:15
  of dollars buying virtual real estate in the middle of nothing
• 59:20
  like so that's what you got to take into consideration.
• 59:22
  Like this joke is just a front. It's no, you just act like, you
• 59:26
  know, you're a part of the club or whatever, but do your own
• 59:29
  thing. Don't get caught up with the
• 59:30
  Hollywood parties and stuff, but just go in, handle your
• 59:34
  business, meet who you need and meet and do your interviews and
• 59:38
  get out. Yeah, well, I'm not going it.
• 59:40
  Sucks, it sucks, but I'm just telling you because you deserve
• 59:45
  it. Like you know, even y'all, y'all
• 59:46
  you all do y'all deserve. Exactly everything that you guys
• 59:51
  desire in regards to this. I love you, man.
• 59:54
  We got it, we got it. We got to talk off air.
• 59:57
  Throw me your number, throw me your number.
• 59:59
  We got to talk. We got to talk bud.
• 1:00:01
  I I honestly, we love everything about you personally, personally
• 1:00:05
  and personality wise. I I think you'll do great as a
• 1:00:09
  podcaster and I for all these idiots that do do podcasts that
• 1:00:13
  are absolutely horrible, half these guys, Richard Sherman.
• 1:00:15
  Oh my God, that show is absolutely putrid.
• 1:00:19
  I listen. Listen to his show.
• 1:00:20
  I don't really listen to podcast.
• 1:00:21
  I popped it on the other day. I almost threw up.
• 1:00:23
  OK, I can't sit and listen to a guy that you know, he was a good
• 1:00:26
  football player, but his personality and trying to go off
• 1:00:30
  set from all the other stuff that he talks is just absolutely
• 1:00:33
  horrible. And I I don't even want to hear
• 1:00:35
  his take on some of the stuff that comes out of his mouth, but
• 1:00:39
  we love you, man. Keep up the good work.
• 1:00:41
  Let's let's click after you got my you got my direct messenger.
• 1:00:46
  Yeah. Send me your notes.
• 1:00:47
  We'll. Talk.
• 1:00:47
  I'll shoot you. Yeah, I'll shoot you my
• 1:00:48
  information and yeah, let's. Do something.
• 1:00:50
  Absolutely, Quinton. Couples, ladies.
• 1:00:53
  Sir. The one, the man, the killer.
• 1:00:57
  Rex Ryan's pick. Yes, Sir, That's right.
• 1:01:00
  He's great. Man, we love you, man.
• 1:01:02
  Quinton Couples. He's sensational.
• 1:01:04
  Yeah, I love him. He really is great personality
• 1:01:07
  and and honestly was mistreated by the New York Jets.
• 1:01:10
  If The Jets put him in the right position, this guy could have
• 1:01:12
  been a great defensive lineman. But The Jets did did him wrong
• 1:01:17
  and obviously got pushed around a couple of places and and
• 1:01:20
  really didn't really get over the hump.
• 1:01:22
  So unfortunately it just it happens like that.
• 1:01:24
  But he's straightforward. He gave you his own take and
• 1:01:28
  let's go inside baseball. Now let's go deep, deep inside.
• 1:01:32
  What I am exciting this? Is inside baseball.
• 1:01:38
  All right, here we are back in Inside baseball.
• 1:01:43
  I guess I didn't make an updated graphic, this one.
• 1:01:45
  Well, guys, I got some good stuff for you starting off with
• 1:01:49
  the trade that happened today of an All Star.
• 1:01:52
  The Mariners have acquired All Star Brendan Donovan from the
• 1:01:58
  Saint Louis Cardinals on Monday in a three team trade that
• 1:02:02
  included guess who, the Tampa Bay Rays, who always seem to
• 1:02:06
  find their way as the third or fourth team in these types of
• 1:02:10
  deals. It just is what they do.
• 1:02:13
  So the deal with sources said three team proposals.
• 1:02:17
  We got a I'm, I don't know how to pronounce his name, Durangelo
• 1:02:21
  Sujenti, who's the number 5 prospect in the top 103rd
• 1:02:27
  baseman Ben Williamson goes to the Rays.
• 1:02:30
  The Cardinals get a bunch of prospects, tie Pete from
• 1:02:33
  Seattle, Colton Ledbetter. Regardless, it's Donovan that
• 1:02:37
  we're talking about from this deal.
• 1:02:39
  The Mariners, they went and got Euenio Suarez at the deadline.
• 1:02:44
  He's a free agent. They didn't get him.
• 1:02:45
  We'll talk about him in a second actually, but Brendan Donovan
• 1:02:49
  had is a high average hitter, plays every single position
• 1:02:53
  basically on in the outfield, in the infield.
• 1:02:57
  He's he's pretty useful guy. I love it.
• 1:03:00
  And by the way, he can play multiple positions.
• 1:03:01
  He can play left field, third base, second base.
• 1:03:04
  This guy can hit for average. He's not a power hitter.
• 1:03:07
  He had eleven home runs I think last year, 287 hitter.
• 1:03:11
  He can do a lot of different things.
• 1:03:13
  What I believe the Mariners need is that stable defensive
• 1:03:17
  position player that can play multiple positions.
• 1:03:20
  They can move them around the field.
• 1:03:21
  I I think it's a slam thug firm. Great move by the Seattle
• 1:03:24
  Seattle Mariners. Yeah, they definitely need that
• 1:03:26
  kind of production in the infield if they're going to lose
• 1:03:28
  Suarez. Crawford's been up and down and
• 1:03:29
  hitting wise, too, and same thing with their corner outfield
• 1:03:31
  positions. They've just been up and down.
• 1:03:33
  I like him a lot and I think he was the first winner of that
• 1:03:35
  utility award, fish the Gold Glove.
• 1:03:38
  So I think he played every position catcher one year.
• 1:03:40
  Yeah, I've I've been on him is a fantasy baseball guy for a
• 1:03:44
  number of years. I just love guys that are going
• 1:03:47
  to hit 280 to 300 every single season and he's going to strike
• 1:03:51
  out and has the on base skills he's got like those Billy Bean.
• 1:03:55
  You know, you need to have the on base percentage needs to be
• 1:03:58
  like 70 to 80 points higher than the batting average.
• 1:04:01
  And if you're batting the money ball stuff and if you're batting
• 1:04:05
  average is in the two 80s, that means we're talking you're on
• 1:04:07
  base 3536% of the time. You're in an All Star if you do
• 1:04:11
  that and you could play Gold Glove out infield and outfield.
• 1:04:15
  Pretty damn good trade for the Mariners to start off inside
• 1:04:18
  baseball. Let's go to the next topic.
• 1:04:20
  We've got Ohtani not going to pitch in the World Baseball
• 1:04:26
  Classic. And numbers of players are not
• 1:04:30
  being give, are not going to be playing mostly from Latin
• 1:04:33
  American countries and places such as Puerto Rico, obviously
• 1:04:37
  part of the United States, but Venezuela, numbers of players
• 1:04:41
  are not being insured. And the reason, the reason is
• 1:04:47
  the contract. We have a couple of reasons.
• 1:04:49
  Miguel Rojas turned 37, they won't insure anyone over 37 from
• 1:04:54
  Latin America. I don't know what the reason for
• 1:04:57
  that is. There's been older players that
• 1:04:58
  were insured in America. Like I'm pretty sure Clayton
• 1:05:01
  Kershaw's over that age and he's going to be on that team.
• 1:05:05
  Obviously he's never playing again.
• 1:05:06
  So maybe it's different. But the other part is Francisco
• 1:05:08
  Lindor is not being insured to play in the World Baseball
• 1:05:12
  Classic for Puerto Rico because his contract is too valuable and
• 1:05:16
  they don't want to have to insure someone who has a $200
• 1:05:19
  million left on their contract. And again, they're allowing
• 1:05:24
  American guys such as Kyle Tucker, who we know just signed
• 1:05:27
  a $240 million, four year contract to play.
• 1:05:30
  This is kind of a really fascinating thing.
• 1:05:33
  And then anyone who has injury history, they've pulled them
• 1:05:36
  from it. Carlos Correa, Jose Berrios have
• 1:05:41
  been pulled from this WBC. The WBC is kind of losing some
• 1:05:45
  steam, Meryl. Don't play.
• 1:05:46
  Don't play then. I mean, Otani has the deferred
• 1:05:49
  money. He's getting paid, what, 2
• 1:05:50
  million a year? But oh, he's got $100 million of
• 1:05:53
  sponsors. If you want to be in the World
• 1:05:56
  Baseball Classic, you're playing for your your team, you're
• 1:05:59
  playing for your country. It shouldn't.
• 1:06:01
  You have millions and millions of dollars.
• 1:06:03
  If you're worried about getting hurt, then don't play in the
• 1:06:05
  game. I know what happened to Edwin
• 1:06:06
  Diaz the last WBC. He was out for the season
• 1:06:09
  tearing. I think he was his Achilles or
• 1:06:10
  his knee, whatever it was. I understand that.
• 1:06:13
  But you're you're playing for your country, you're playing for
• 1:06:16
  your flag, you're playing that. If you, again, I understand what
• 1:06:19
  the WBC is doing. I understand that they don't
• 1:06:21
  have insurance. It really doesn't matter.
• 1:06:24
  Don't play that. Yeah, it looks bad.
• 1:06:26
  Like when you see an international foundation like
• 1:06:28
  you see with the Olympics. We've seen with FIFA have
• 1:06:30
  problems with not paying their players enough or not paying the
• 1:06:32
  right insurance. It's one thing.
• 1:06:33
  It's a whole country doing it too, and it looks really bad.
• 1:06:36
  What you the last thing you described, fish looks really
• 1:06:38
  bad. A player with injury history
• 1:06:39
  should not be, cannot be insured.
• 1:06:41
  That is the most stupid thing I might have ever heard.
• 1:06:44
  So get an insurance policy out, pay for the insurance policy.
• 1:06:47
  If you're a professional athlete and you're making that kind of
• 1:06:50
  money, pay for insurance policy. You can go to the there's many
• 1:06:53
  ways call an insurance company and get a policy put on it.
• 1:06:56
  I I know football players had a policies put on their hair $4
• 1:06:59
  million Palomalo before during the regular season, they had an
• 1:07:03
  insurance policy on his hair. So if you want an insurance
• 1:07:06
  policy, hey Mr. Deferred Money over there, go pull it out of
• 1:07:09
  your ass. I'm pretty sure Jlo at one point
• 1:07:12
  had like a $50 million policy on her behind, Speaking of which.
• 1:07:16
  But but it's very strange. You want to watch them play.
• 1:07:19
  You would think the league would do something if they want the
• 1:07:22
  WBC to be successful. But there are some people that
• 1:07:25
  are saying that the Japanese players and the USA players are
• 1:07:29
  being allowed to do it, are being allowed to be in it.
• 1:07:31
  Making the other teams weaker so that we can see a rigged final
• 1:07:35
  of USA versus Japan might be a little bit of like a rigging it
• 1:07:40
  in the books here. Let's move on to the next topic.
• 1:07:43
  The Athletics have signed going into the second season, Jacob
• 1:07:48
  Wilson, their shortstop. He was second in his second in
• 1:07:51
  the voting for AL Rookie of the year to A7 year $70 million
• 1:07:57
  contract. So the A's lock him up for the
• 1:07:59
  long term. He's only 23, so that'll take
• 1:08:02
  him to age 30. Finish second in the AL Rookie
• 1:08:05
  of the year. He hit 311 as as a rookie with a
• 1:08:09
  355 on a 444 slugging. That's just was at that 799 OPS
• 1:08:16
  for the season, 13 homers, 63 RBIs, 125 games.
• 1:08:21
  His teammate Nick Kurtz, of course, was the was the AL
• 1:08:24
  Rookie of the Year, but had an awesome season.
• 1:08:27
  And of course, it's as soon as the Athletics leave Oakland and
• 1:08:32
  don't get to give any of this great young talent to that fan
• 1:08:36
  base that was tortured for absolutely forever.
• 1:08:39
  I guess they're still in Sacramento for now.
• 1:08:42
  I guess they're going to Vegas. But as far as I know, nothing's
• 1:08:44
  really official exactly on their landing spot currently.
• 1:08:48
  This is a great deal. Why?
• 1:08:49
  Because there could be a strike in a year from now, and now you
• 1:08:53
  have this guy set for seven years, 70 million.
• 1:08:56
  It's a great deal. He's young.
• 1:08:58
  And again, this is something that the Braves have done over
• 1:09:01
  the years. They're signing their players
• 1:09:03
  early so they don't have to worry to worry five years from
• 1:09:07
  now when they're arbitrated. And then they have to be.
• 1:09:10
  They're unrestricted free agents and they lose their players.
• 1:09:12
  The A's are doing the right thing.
• 1:09:14
  Slam dunk for the A's signing their their young shortstop.
• 1:09:18
  Yeah, any middle tier and and smaller market should definitely
• 1:09:20
  follow that model. It was work for the Braves.
• 1:09:22
  I know it didn't work for the White Sox so it kind of
• 1:09:23
  backfired on them, but the White Sox had all other issues.
• 1:09:26
  But they did this last year with Rooker and Lawrence Butler.
• 1:09:28
  I believe Langoliers too as well got a deal.
• 1:09:31
  So they're at least lucky in the hair is not just going to work
• 1:09:33
  on the pitch like. Soderstrom also got a deal,
• 1:09:35
  Soderstrom too as well. So, but again, it's all in that
• 1:09:39
  Braves, like you said, Errol, that Braves like get them buy
• 1:09:42
  out their, you know, arbitration years and give them the
• 1:09:46
  contract. So they get money in their hand
• 1:09:48
  when they're younger. That makes them happier.
• 1:09:50
  And then when they're 30, they can get that big contract if
• 1:09:53
  they're still good, you know, to get that one more big contract
• 1:09:56
  or a couple of smaller contracts, you know, for the
• 1:09:58
  rest of their career. I, I think it's a win win.
• 1:10:00
  I love that format. And it's obviously, you know,
• 1:10:03
  outside of all the injuries year from hell the Braves had this
• 1:10:05
  year, it's been a pretty good model.
• 1:10:08
  All right, so let's move on to the next one big name on the
• 1:10:11
  market and it's CJ Abrams. This is a guy who has 25 home
• 1:10:15
  run power and fifty stolen base every year just waiting.
• 1:10:20
  He's now the issue with Abrams. Obviously he's on Washington.
• 1:10:23
  They got him from San Diego in A and I believe that was the
• 1:10:26
  original prize for the Wan. So he was.
• 1:10:28
  One of the six guys? Yep.
• 1:10:30
  Yeah, he was the original prize. Gore was another one, too, and
• 1:10:33
  he's gone. Right.
• 1:10:34
  So they're they're obviously selling it, you know, and they
• 1:10:37
  haven't made it official, but there's a lot of people that can
• 1:10:41
  use a shortstop. Not everybody looks at Abrams as
• 1:10:44
  a shortstop going forward. Defense is a problem.
• 1:10:47
  He could be, he could end up the outfield, could end up at 2nd.
• 1:10:51
  But I'm pretty sure there's a lot of teams, including the
• 1:10:54
  Yankees that should be all over a middle infielder.
• 1:10:57
  That's a 2550 guy. 257 last year.
• 1:11:00
  That's what I worry about, batting average and obviously
• 1:11:03
  the average of the league is batting between 2:40 and 2:35.
• 1:11:07
  But if you're going to bring in a shortstop, they've had
• 1:11:10
  problems with Volpe. Volpe is it was hitting at the
• 1:11:13
  end of the season, I think it was like 210, two, 15.
• 1:11:16
  The guy's only hitting .40 more than he is.
• 1:11:19
  So that's what I worry about bringing in a guy that might
• 1:11:22
  have some pop. So does Volpe.
• 1:11:24
  Volpe hit 20 something home runs last year and can steal bases.
• 1:11:27
  I don't know if I want to bring in the same type of player to my
• 1:11:30
  roster and have to give up a tremendous amount of prospects.
• 1:11:33
  So I wouldn't do it if I was the Yankees.
• 1:11:35
  But there are other organizations that have a
• 1:11:37
  boatload of young prospects that they need to get rid of and they
• 1:11:40
  need, they need to add defensive help or offensive help.
• 1:11:43
  So I would do it. But I, I if I were the Yankees,
• 1:11:46
  I'd stay away from them. And based on the Gore trade, you
• 1:11:48
  might be taking a good chance on a falling price with this new GM
• 1:11:51
  with the Nationals that maybe this new ownership doesn't
• 1:11:53
  really trust as much. You might be able to get him for
• 1:11:55
  less if you're any of these American League contendings, I
• 1:11:58
  think outside of Detroit and. If you were the Yankees, would
• 1:12:00
  you make that move? At a lower price, I think I
• 1:12:02
  would, but not really. Not at the price that.
• 1:12:04
  Not at the price that. Volpe is a better player than
• 1:12:06
  he. Is not at the price that they're
• 1:12:08
  asking for, but I think both players have been up and down
• 1:12:11
  enough where I still. Volpe is younger, Volpe is a
• 1:12:13
  year younger than he is, Volpe has more pop and Volpe has more
• 1:12:17
  speed. So why would you bring this?
• 1:12:19
  Guy he doesn't have more speed he's this this guy's an absolute
• 1:12:23
  burner Abrams is one of the fastest guys in the league so is
• 1:12:27
  Volpe, but it's fast well, I I'm not I'm not I'd let speedy
• 1:12:30
  finish but you know this guy is that's the thing that if you're
• 1:12:35
  interested in him it's for his speed and they're having that
• 1:12:38
  decent pop not as good as Volpe you're right though the.
• 1:12:40
  Other other element I was mentioning though is because the
• 1:12:43
  Yankees have still some other questions with like obviously if
• 1:12:45
  they keep Chisen long term like if they let him go then maybe
• 1:12:48
  he's a second baseman or and Volpe still is there anyway.
• 1:12:51
  I think they all have good versatile pieces and you have to
• 1:12:53
  play for injuries. I wouldn't mind taking the
• 1:12:55
  chance if the value falls shorter.
• 1:12:56
  I wouldn't pay him at his regular price.
• 1:12:58
  Though All right, so I, I'm looking at Volpe stealing
• 1:13:00
  numbers last year was down because it was down all but he
• 1:13:03
  had eighteen stolen bases. He only Abraham's only had 31
• 1:13:09
  stolen bases. So as far as popping and RB Oz,
• 1:13:12
  it's I'm keeping Volpe. If I'm going to pick one from
• 1:13:15
  the other, I'm keeping Volpe. And I, I let Abrams go wherever
• 1:13:19
  he's going to go. I, I, if I'm the Yankees, I
• 1:13:20
  don't make that move. I, I think Volpe was playing
• 1:13:23
  hurt and that's why the defense suffered.
• 1:13:24
  I'm willing to give Volpe another chance, see if he's
• 1:13:27
  healthy, see, see if that defense bounced back because I
• 1:13:30
  don't want a guy who can't play shortstop that we just traded a
• 1:13:32
  lot for. And I'm worried defensively that
• 1:13:34
  Abrams is going to be another corner outfielder.
• 1:13:37
  And we already got like 12 of those guys.
• 1:13:39
  So it just wouldn't be the guy I trade for.
• 1:13:42
  But he is definitely the big name out there.
• 1:13:44
  You should pay attention to it. Couple of smaller signings
• 1:13:47
  mentioned them earlier. Yuenio Suarez, big home run
• 1:13:49
  hitter, goes to the Reds in a one year, $15 million deal.
• 1:13:54
  Again, had 49 home runs last year.
• 1:13:57
  I believe it was an All Star. Was with the Diamondbacks for a
• 1:14:00
  while. He always had batting average
• 1:14:02
  issues where he had really low batting averages and lots of
• 1:14:06
  strikeouts. Those numbers have been
• 1:14:08
  significantly better. His slugging was out of control
• 1:14:11
  last year, especially after he went to Seattle with their run.
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  And then the other one, Buster Posey knows good hitting.
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  Buster Posey signs Luis arise in the Giants and they're going to
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  put him over probably playing a little bit of first base DH ING.
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  But this guy's, you know, he had three years in a row where he
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  was bad in like 3/25, 3:30 Everybody knows Arise isn't the
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  best defender out there, but he is probably the best contact
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  hitter in baseball and has been for the last five to six years.
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  I love Luis Arise and that's the guy the Yankees should have
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  signed. If he's going to sign a one year
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  deal, I would have absolutely brought him in.
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  They need they need guys that can hit, hit for average.
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  The Yankees had problems in the playoffs.
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  You put him in that lineup to protect, maybe behind Aaron
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  Judge hitting in the five spot or the the 6th spot that spreads
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  out their offense, spreads out their lineup.
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  It would have made a lot of sense for the Yankees.
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  Suarez, that was an absolute slam dunk one year.
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  How much was it 15,000,000? That's a slam dunk.
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  A guy that hit 49 home runs, even if he gives you 30 and 30
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  and 80, it's a slam dunk for 15,000,000.
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  The Reds made a great move. They needed some offense in the
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  second-half of the season. I think it's a great move.
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  Yeah, they need veteran leadership for a very young
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  team. Then you had a young infield
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  that got hurt last year with steer up and down with injury.
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  Matt McLean miss I think 81 or 90 games or something like that.
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  So I think this is a good one year contract.
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  The fans love them there in Cincinnati and then arise for
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  the Giants too. They're going to need contact
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  hitting because they don't have. 15 billions is nothing for a 40.
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  A guy that hits 49 home runs and could give you almost 100 RBI's,
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  yeah, that's a steal. Yep.
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  And then for a rise sake, I think the Giants need more
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  lineup depth. They're not going to have a lot
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  of power just with the parks that they're in and the teams
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  are going to play again. So they got somebody that can
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  mentor those guys in our eyes so.
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  All right, we got one more topic left and that topic is the
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  retirement of the West Yankee still active from the 2009 World
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  Series team, Former Yankees reliever and David Robertson is
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  calling it a career. This is one I was hoping we have
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  Jabba for. You know, obviously Jabba played
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  with him on that championship team, announced his retirement
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  on Friday, ending his playing career.
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  He played for eight teams over 18 years.
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  Nine of those years. So half of his career was with
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  the Yankees. He was a 17th round pick as
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  again he was a relief pitcher for the championship team.
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  He was a closer for a while. He bounced around the league and
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  had some had a lot of success in a lot of clutch moments.
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  I think I remember him mostly being a clutch player.
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  How do you guys remember David? Houdini.
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  That's who they gave him a nickname to.
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  He was Houdini. A lot of times that I saw David
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  Robertson, he would come into the game and then he'd load the
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  bases and then if there would be one out and he'd get out of
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  trouble after those two batters and strike out the side.
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  That's why they called him Houdini.
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  He would put himself in bad situations and get himself out
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  of it. He was one of the best at doing
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  that with the Yankees over the years.
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  I love David Robinson everywhere he went, even when he went to
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  Philadelphia and he jumped ship when he when he left the
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  Yankees. He had many, many opportunities
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  of success and, and, and at the tail end of his career, he kind
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  of fought injuries and obviously he wasn't the same pitcher when
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  he left the Yankees, but he was a sensational relief pitcher for
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  the Yankees, especially when they won the World Series in
• 1:17:36
  2009. Yeah, tough situations.
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  I think good sparks for a lot of bad bullpens.
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  Even after he left the Yankees, a Phillies bullpen when he went
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  there was atrocious. It really helped elevate.
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  He was with the Mets for a little bit, had one Goodyear,
• 1:17:46
  one bad year with them. But again, tough situations,
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  lots of different roles. He didn't have to be a closer,
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  right? Very good career for Robertson
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  for sure. He was actually an absolutely
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  excellent player. It's sad to see the last
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  champion Yankees active to be out of the league, but we'll see
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  if anything else happens that maybe make the Yankees get back
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  to that point on the next Inside Baseball.
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  Houdini, ladies and gentlemen, and I, I loved him as a player,
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  I really did. And he was a good guy.
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  Everything about him. When you look at former Yankees
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  and guys that you really love to watch play, he was one at Brett
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  Gardner was another one and I love to watch play.
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  He was a all world Yankee. He he was a Yankee his whole
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  career. Never went to play anywhere else
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  at Robertson at the end of at the tail end of his career, he
• 1:18:31
  jumped ship. But he was a Yankee pretty much
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  his whole career. At the top of his game he was a
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  Yankee. And I, I think the Yankees tried
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  to bring him back when they moved on from him.
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  They tried to bring him back and they winded up bringing somebody
• 1:18:44
  else in. I think it was Chapman.
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  Then they brought back in, but they went after David Robertson
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  and David Robinson was still playing good baseball when he
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  left the Yankees, but he started to get significant injuries and
• 1:18:56
  his body started to break down. And it wasn't the same pitcher,
• 1:18:58
  but great, great pitcher for the Yankees as we gave him the
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  nickname or the Yankee fans gave him the nickname Houdini.
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  I'd like to thank everybody that listens to our show, all the
• 1:19:07
  fans on Spotify and Apple video and audio, all the fans 107th we
• 1:19:13
  were ranked at I think on Saturday.
• 1:19:16
  So and we are amongst the best in the country and we like to
• 1:19:20
  thank all the fans that download and follow us and search for us.
• 1:19:24
  We really appreciate you guys. Sorry that job but did not join
• 1:19:27
  us. He he decided to stay in New
• 1:19:28
  York for another extra day. He told me at 4:30 that he's
• 1:19:33
  getting on his plane now. I'm like, dude, you're not going
• 1:19:35
  to make it to the show. He's like, I'm going to try to
• 1:19:38
  make it. I knew he wasn't going to make
• 1:19:39
  it and he's probably listen to the show right now.
• 1:19:42
  So hopefully we got Jabba for the whole show on Thursday.
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  But yeah, thank you to all the TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, all
• 1:19:50
  the fans on those platforms, YouTube, Jabba in the mouth.
• 1:19:54
  We really appreciate all you guys, Speedy, who we have on
• 1:19:57
  Thursday. All right, Super Bowl champion
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  8:45 will be joining us. Former New York Giants tight end
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  Howard Across. Oh, that's right, that's right.
• 1:20:05
  Nathan was the one that scooped him up.
• 1:20:07
  Yes, he was. And one of the better goal line
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  defenders of all time, right? No, that was Gary Reasons.
• 1:20:13
  He'll be out in a. Few.
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  That's right. That's right.
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  Howard Cross. I'm trying to remember.
• 1:20:17
  Howard Cross. I don't.
• 1:20:18
  Remember the tight end shock? He's back up.
• 1:20:22
  Aha. Now I remember him because I I
• 1:20:25
  did. I was an executive producer for
• 1:20:27
  Imani Toomer. So Imani Toomer used to tell me
• 1:20:29
  a lot of different stories about those teams before the Super
• 1:20:33
  Bowl championship. He did all The Dirty work while
• 1:20:36
  shock he got to line up and go out for passes.
• 1:20:38
  Cross was a great blocker and he caught some passes too.
• 1:20:41
  He was a good, halfway decent athlete.
• 1:20:43
  All right, All right. Howard Cross will be joining us.
• 1:20:45
  So very interesting. Thank you again to all the fans.
• 1:20:49
  We'll be back on Thursday. Yes, Jabba will be here on
• 1:20:52
  Thursday. Better be Oh smack up silly.
• 1:20:54
  I got a chance to meet him on Saturday.
• 1:20:56
  So that was interesting both of us together.
• 1:20:59
  It's like I knew him for years. It really is and he he I got to
• 1:21:03
  give a shout out to Jabba. He was very kind to my friends
• 1:21:05
  very cool to my friends and try to pick on my size at which
• 1:21:09
  you're only four inches bigger than me buddy.
• 1:21:11
  Stop bragging about it When I steal a base against you.
• 1:21:14
  Then you can you can start kissing my ass my friend.
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  I love you anyways. Goodnight, farewell.
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