Latest / Stuff Mom Never Told You / Monday Mini: The Benefits of Pet Ownership
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha.
- 0:06Speaker 2: I'm hoping to stuff I never told you protection by her.
- 0:08Speaker 3: Radio, and you know, any of the world is bleak,
- 0:21Speaker 3: and honestly, I'm not doing too well, especially with all
- 0:24Speaker 3: the dark news.
- 0:25Speaker 1: I feel like I'm consuming.
- 0:29Speaker 3: Yes, So for this Monday, Minnie, We're gonna take a
- 0:32Speaker 3: break with some insightful looks at why pets are wonderful
- 0:38Speaker 3: for these dark times.
- 0:40Speaker 1: Anyone's gonna rele you that cat.
- 0:43Speaker 2: And there is a neighborhood cat listeners that I adore.
- 0:47Speaker 2: She is so sweet and if I could, I would.
- 0:50Speaker 2: I love her.
- 0:53Speaker 3: Yeah. Actually I came upon her as I was coming
- 0:56Speaker 3: to your house, to your apartment to bring you something.
- 1:00Speaker 1: She was so sweet rubbing up on me. I almost
- 1:02Speaker 1: took her and brought her to you.
- 1:05Speaker 3: Because I was like, she needs this cat.
- 1:08Speaker 2: I love her. I'm debating her name, and I'm like,
- 1:12Speaker 2: if I name her, then it's going to go out
- 1:15Speaker 2: the window.
- 1:16Speaker 1: Princess Leah.
- 1:18Speaker 2: She's she's got a sassy vibe. I could see that working.
- 1:23Speaker 3: Yeah, So yeah, when I saw her, immediate was like, Josh,
- 1:28Speaker 3: I need to steal this cat. But then she's so
- 1:30Speaker 3: healthy and happy that I'm like I feel like she
- 1:32Speaker 3: belongs to somebody, so I don't know the kidnap catnap.
- 1:42Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you a cat though.
- 1:43Speaker 3: But with that so, as you all know, Peter's carture
- 1:47Speaker 3: mcphusin is one of the loves of my life. And
- 1:50Speaker 3: though I may say she's a dick because she can be. Oh,
- 1:54Speaker 3: and my anxiety may have made her this way. Pet
- 1:58Speaker 3: seemed to imitate their owner personality. Again, so they say,
- 2:03Speaker 3: but with all of that, she has made my life better,
- 2:07Speaker 3: more expensive, but better. And of course we know this
- 2:12Speaker 3: is scientific and you know we're gonna look at some findings.
- 2:16Speaker 3: So in an article in Newsinhealth dot nih dot gov,
- 2:21Speaker 3: Yes INIH titled the Power of Pets, they say, this
- 2:27Speaker 3: research on human animal interaction is still relatively new, and
- 2:31Speaker 3: by the way, this is a twenty eighteen article, so
- 2:34Speaker 3: it's been seven years, but you.
- 2:35Speaker 1: Know, kind of close.
- 2:38Speaker 3: Some studies have shown positive health effects, but the results
- 2:42Speaker 3: have been mixed. Interacting with animals has been shown to
- 2:47Speaker 3: decrease levels of cortisol, a stress related hormone, and lower
- 2:51Speaker 3: blood pressure. Other studies have found that animals can reduce loneliness,
- 2:56Speaker 3: increase feelings of social support, and boost your mood. So
- 3:00Speaker 3: if I was one of the people that I talked to,
- 3:04Speaker 3: I would absolutely agree about the loneliness, increasing feelings of
- 3:09Speaker 3: social support, and boosting your mood because sometimes just being
- 3:13Speaker 3: able to hug my.
- 3:14Speaker 1: Dog makes me feel better.
- 3:17Speaker 3: She doesn't understand it, she probably doesn't love it. She
- 3:21Speaker 3: does that for me. In fact, they were so intrigued
- 3:25Speaker 3: by the benefits of pets and animals they were currently
- 3:27Speaker 3: at that time looking at how kids with autism, ADHD
- 3:31Speaker 3: and other diagnoses could benefit from animal interactions. Of course,
- 3:35Speaker 3: we know that service animals have had a giant impact
- 3:38Speaker 3: on people with different types of diagnoses, ranging from anxiety,
- 3:43Speaker 3: bipolar to diabetes schizophrenia, so it's no surprise that there
- 3:48Speaker 3: could also be help benefits in having pets. Here's some
- 3:51Speaker 3: more from that NIH article. They write, dogs are very
- 3:54Speaker 3: present if someone is struggling with something, they know how
- 3:57Speaker 3: to sit there and be loving.
- 4:00Speaker 1: I'm not doing well with Peaches. I need to figure
- 4:01Speaker 1: that one out anyway.
- 4:03Speaker 3: And this was doctor An Berger, a physician and researcher
- 4:05Speaker 3: at the NIH Clinical Center and Bethesda, Maryland. She goes
- 4:09Speaker 3: on to say their attention is focused on the person
- 4:11Speaker 3: all the time, Burger works with people who have cancer
- 4:14Speaker 3: and terminal illness. She teaches them about mindfulness to help
- 4:17Speaker 3: decrease stress and manage pain, so she specifically uses them
- 4:21Speaker 3: for that. But there wasn't a back and forth again
- 4:24Speaker 3: about this because they were worried about germs, especially like
- 4:30Speaker 3: with cancer patients, and so making sure that they are relatively.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Clean.
- 4:36Speaker 3: I don't know how else to say that germ free,
- 4:38Speaker 3: because dog is more more likely to pick up and
- 4:41Speaker 3: bring in germs than other humans, so that was kind
- 4:46Speaker 3: of a concern, and I think that the whole conversation
- 4:49Speaker 3: has happened, but they also again talk about how this
- 4:51Speaker 3: is still beneficial.
- 4:52Speaker 1: For a lot of patients. I want to hug a dog.
- 4:56Speaker 3: Moving on, there's another article tell Tell t E l
- 5:00Speaker 3: l T a I l VET dot com that gives
- 5:03Speaker 3: a list on how pets can have helpful benefits for
- 5:07Speaker 3: mental health, and it includes some of the things like
- 5:09Speaker 3: reducing stress and anxiety as we mentioned, providing companionship and
- 5:13Speaker 3: reducing loneliness. Yes, I do talk to peaches a lot,
- 5:17Speaker 3: especially by myself, to the point that when my partner
- 5:19Speaker 3: moved in, he would often think I was talking to
- 5:21Speaker 3: him and I had to clarify, it's not for you.
- 5:23Speaker 1: Stop listening.
- 5:23Speaker 2: I'm talking to Peaches between.
- 5:26Speaker 3: Me and Peaches, but any you adapted to that very
- 5:28Speaker 3: quickly because you talked to preachers a lot, even with
- 5:30Speaker 3: me and my partner present, and you don't even know
- 5:32Speaker 3: what to do.
- 5:33Speaker 2: Beaches and I are the same person.
- 5:35Speaker 3: You are essentially the same creature. And then they say,
- 5:39Speaker 3: also is improving mood and boosting emotional resilience. So a
- 5:43Speaker 3: twenty twenty five report talks about the fact that a
- 5:46Speaker 3: dog or a cat can help your well being just
- 5:48Speaker 3: as much as being married or having friends or so
- 5:53Speaker 3: the scene an article says, so here's a quote, they write.
- 5:56Speaker 3: The study, which was published on March thirty first again
- 5:59Speaker 3: in March twenty twenty five in the journal's Social Indicators, Research,
- 6:03Speaker 3: concludes that having an animal companionship is a worth of
- 6:06Speaker 3: to seventy thousand pounds or ninety thousand dollars a year
- 6:11Speaker 3: in life satisfaction, a metric economists used to quantify the
- 6:15Speaker 3: quote implicit price of otherwise intangible things.
- 6:19Speaker 1: I found that fascinating. I'm not.
- 6:21Speaker 3: They go on to give you a little more scientific
- 6:24Speaker 3: understanding of how they got this number and what this is,
- 6:27Speaker 3: and of course, like the variables in there, as well
- 6:29Speaker 3: as possibly conflicting ideas, not a lot. But I was like, wait, what,
- 6:35Speaker 3: wait what, Maybe I'm not Maybe she's not as expensive
- 6:39Speaker 3: as I thought if she's making you know, ninety thousand
- 6:41Speaker 3: dollars or giving me back ninety thousand dollars worth of
- 6:44Speaker 3: intangible things. Of course, again, both the article and the
- 6:48Speaker 3: study warns about the ideas of equating pets to humans
- 6:52Speaker 3: on a literal basis, saying that yes, our connections to
- 6:55Speaker 3: animals are powerful, but not they are not the same
- 6:58Speaker 3: as humans. Whatever, because my dog is better than a
- 7:01Speaker 3: lot of people, and though does cause me stress, caused
- 7:05Speaker 3: me less stress than so many people in my life.
- 7:10Speaker 1: Not you any.
- 7:13Speaker 2: Because Peaches and I are the same, because.
- 7:14Speaker 1: Y'all are one.
- 7:16Speaker 3: Essentially, If there's such a thing as a soul dog,
- 7:19Speaker 3: it's yours.
- 7:21Speaker 1: Please you have the same personality.
- 7:25Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure my personality is that of a cat,
- 7:28Speaker 3: although Peaches sometimes reminds me of a cat, because she's like, no,
- 7:32Speaker 3: don't touch me, No, don't look at me, No, don't
- 7:34Speaker 3: come near me.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Oh you want me to come sit next to you? No,
- 7:37Speaker 1: thank you.
- 7:38Speaker 2: Friend of the show. Friend in real life, Lauren, when
- 7:43Speaker 2: I was dog sitting and I was trying to record
- 7:45Speaker 2: and Peaches was being a little extra. Uh, Lauren said,
- 7:50Speaker 2: Peaches is the most calico dog I've ever seen.
- 7:57Speaker 1: I think you're wrong.
- 8:11Speaker 3: Of course, we wanted to break down the women factor
- 8:14Speaker 3: to this, if there is any. And here's an article
- 8:17Speaker 3: that comes from the myts dot com titled ken dogs
- 8:20Speaker 3: and cats help women live longer, healthier lives. Well, yes,
- 8:25Speaker 3: but it's kind of the same as the Telltale vet
- 8:28Speaker 3: dot com article. The benefits are similar, but there isn't
- 8:33Speaker 3: added plus that they've tagged on that I was like, yeah, okay,
- 8:36Speaker 3: in which they say under the emotional connection, they talk
- 8:40Speaker 3: about the many complicated parts of a women's lives and
- 8:43Speaker 3: stages and how pets can give some more stability in
- 8:45Speaker 3: grounding in those what they would call milestones like perimenopause, menopause,
- 8:53Speaker 3: having a period, all those different things, and I'm like,
- 8:55Speaker 3: you know what, that's actually true. That may be a
- 8:58Speaker 3: little more beneficial in that level. Now, Potts is a
- 9:03Speaker 3: fairly new er or I guess more recently talked about
- 9:07Speaker 3: diagnosis and condition and not very well studied from what
- 9:11Speaker 3: I gather and I have seen many women, so because
- 9:15Speaker 3: I don't know, I have not seen many men talk
- 9:19Speaker 3: about this or I've been diagnosed with this, and I
- 9:21Speaker 3: could be wrong, but they use they do have service
- 9:24Speaker 3: dogs to help since when they're about to pass out
- 9:28Speaker 3: and they know that so they'll come and tap them.
- 9:29Speaker 3: So that makes sense to me that I'm like, okay,
- 9:32Speaker 3: these different types of milestones that's based on hormones and
- 9:34Speaker 3: periods and like uterine complications could be stress relief. So
- 9:41Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, that's an interesting take. But also
- 9:45Speaker 3: I know Kristen and Caroline had this conversation previo like
- 9:48Speaker 3: a while ago about pets becoming children the substitute children
- 9:53Speaker 3: for many women, and I did want to talk about that.
- 9:56Speaker 3: So an article from Psychology Today which was written in
- 9:59Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, so after their episode, but not so
- 10:06Speaker 3: reason or about four years ago, they have some thoughts.
- 10:09Speaker 3: So here's here's an interesting quote from them in this
- 10:12Speaker 3: survey seventy percent, So they did talk about specific survey
- 10:15Speaker 3: in the article, seventy percent of the women who have
- 10:18Speaker 3: chosen not to have children view their dog or cat
- 10:20Speaker 3: as their child. However, the door still seems to be
- 10:23Speaker 3: open toward eventually having children, since sixty six percent view
- 10:26Speaker 3: caring for their pet as a practice for one day
- 10:28Speaker 3: having a child, if they ever were ever to change
- 10:30Speaker 3: their mind, so seventy two percent explicitly state that they
- 10:33Speaker 3: prefer the company of their pet over the company of children.
- 10:36Speaker 3: Sixty nine percent say that having a pet is easier
- 10:39Speaker 3: than having a child, which I would agree with, which
- 10:42Speaker 3: I would agree with. So I think this is interesting
- 10:44Speaker 3: in that conversation because again a lot of people are like, yeah,
- 10:47Speaker 3: but this is not the same all these and then
- 10:50Speaker 3: TikTok trends of like if you're saying, you know, you
- 10:52Speaker 3: don't think a birth this, and then they'll show the
- 10:54Speaker 3: picture of the pet, and then they'll also have a
- 10:56Speaker 3: like photoshop.
- 10:57Speaker 1: Copy of them you'res.
- 11:01Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
- 11:02Speaker 1: And I think it's quite funny.
- 11:04Speaker 3: But just them really talking about the fact that this
- 11:07Speaker 3: was their first child. I'll know many people who have
- 11:10Speaker 3: pets and then have children talk about this is their brother,
- 11:13Speaker 3: this is their first child, this is this And I've
- 11:15Speaker 3: even seen like older generations who like get dogs after
- 11:18Speaker 3: their children move talking about this is your brother, this
- 11:20Speaker 3: is your new brother.
- 11:21Speaker 1: They and the children human children being like they love
- 11:26Speaker 1: the dog more than me. You know, stuff like that.
- 11:31Speaker 3: So I do find that interesting in that conversation once
- 11:35Speaker 3: again and whether or not this is a practice or
- 11:37Speaker 3: whether this is their choice. And more and more people
- 11:41Speaker 3: are talking about the fact that they don't want children.
- 11:43Speaker 3: A new article just came out about, like, I think
- 11:45Speaker 3: it said twenty thirty that women from twenty five to
- 11:48Speaker 3: forty four would not be married and not have children.
- 11:51Speaker 3: There's gonna be a record number of women who would
- 11:53Speaker 3: be single and childless. I'm like, yeah, whose fault is
- 11:57Speaker 3: that anyway, moving smoothing.
- 12:01Speaker 1: Yes.
- 12:01Speaker 3: And then of course there was this one article that
- 12:03Speaker 3: I have to shout out that I thought was hysterical
- 12:06Speaker 3: and also very relatable. Emily Bettington and The Guardian shout
- 12:11Speaker 3: out to that wrote this article titled why do so
- 12:14Speaker 3: many women spend more time with pets than people? And
- 12:18Speaker 3: she starts the article with this quote, the average woman
- 12:21Speaker 3: with a pet now spends more time actively engaged with
- 12:25Speaker 3: her pet than she spends hanging out face to face
- 12:27Speaker 3: with bellow humans on any given day. I read in
- 12:30Speaker 3: the Atlantic. It was a dissection of the quote crisis
- 12:33Speaker 3: in Social fitness, alternatively known as while We're all destined
- 12:37Speaker 3: to die alone, our faces eaten by the very pet
- 12:39Speaker 3: whose company we have chosen above our own kind? Am
- 12:43Speaker 3: I a pet owner or my pet owning? Friends of
- 12:45Speaker 3: all genders surprised?
- 12:46Speaker 1: Of course not. And y'all this article is.
- 12:50Speaker 3: Too good not to add a little more bits to it,
- 12:52Speaker 3: including she writes, pet hangouts are blissfully free from social awkwardness, aggravation,
- 12:57Speaker 3: and anxiety. You will never engage in agonizingly polite dance
- 13:02Speaker 3: with your pet over who should eat the last morsel
- 13:04Speaker 3: on a sharing plate. Your pet doesn't have a partner
- 13:07Speaker 3: you can't stand, and if they did, you wouldn't have
- 13:10Speaker 3: to be polite to or about them. If you hang
- 13:12Speaker 3: out at home, your pet doesn't care if you watch
- 13:14Speaker 3: Project repeats, Star Wars repeat or instead of a subtitle drama,
- 13:20Speaker 3: or reveal you don't understand inflation. Yeah, I agreed, I agree,
- 13:26Speaker 3: And she goes on to say this last part, which
- 13:28Speaker 3: by the way, is hysterical. It says, because I think
- 13:31Speaker 3: you and I I've said this many times, but also
- 13:34Speaker 3: to end, Yes, your companion might eat your face one day,
- 13:38Speaker 3: but why would you care? You'll be dead and it's
- 13:40Speaker 3: a small price to pay for all that blissfully accepting
- 13:43Speaker 3: hang time. Being understood is overrated. Being treated as a
- 13:47Speaker 3: snack dispenser in life and potentially also death is the
- 13:51Speaker 3: way forward. I am a snack dispenser. She only cares
- 13:55Speaker 3: about me when she thinks it's time for me to
- 13:57Speaker 3: hide a greenie.
- 14:00Speaker 2: Yes, and then if you don't do it, she hides
- 14:02Speaker 2: behind me and looks at you passive aggressively. And I
- 14:06Speaker 2: love it because I'm suddenly the favorite.
- 14:08Speaker 3: She's bad if I don't give it to her, or
- 14:11Speaker 3: she doesn't because she was sick the other day that
- 14:13Speaker 3: I couldn't. She goes to bed. That's quite funny. But
- 14:20Speaker 3: I thought this was interesting. And if you don't have
- 14:23Speaker 3: a pet, that's okay. If you have inanimate objects like
- 14:26Speaker 3: a bee as your pet, that's okay. Am I still
- 14:30Speaker 3: going to find you a kitten? Yes, any I am.
- 14:36Speaker 3: If you want to have a snake as a pet,
- 14:38Speaker 3: go ahead, Katie. I'm not coming to your house though.
- 14:40Speaker 2: Yeah. I haven't told Katie. My good friend Katie has
- 14:45Speaker 2: a snake and a bunch of mice. And I told
- 14:47Speaker 2: Samantha and her partner about it, and I haven't told
- 14:50Speaker 2: her about your reaction and determination not to go.
- 14:55Speaker 3: Because it also escapes it.
- 14:58Speaker 2: Escape snake escapes.
- 15:01Speaker 3: You can't have it and love it all you want.
- 15:03Speaker 3: And I'm proud of you, and I'm so glad you
- 15:05Speaker 3: take care of that thing.
- 15:05Speaker 1: But I don't want it.
- 15:09Speaker 2: She sent me an update about it today. I'll send
- 15:12Speaker 2: it to.
- 15:12Speaker 3: The amount of screams that would happen if it touched me. Anyway,
- 15:19Speaker 3: all that to say is, yes, your pets can't help
- 15:23Speaker 3: do all of these things.
- 15:24Speaker 1: They are benefits to that during these times.
- 15:26Speaker 3: It's awful, we know, And it's sometimes nice to have
- 15:30Speaker 3: a dog that actually is judgmental.
- 15:32Speaker 1: She does judge me.
- 15:33Speaker 3: She judged me a lot, actually, and sighs at me
- 15:35Speaker 3: quite often in frustration and irritance. But I enjoy that
- 15:40Speaker 3: because in the end I can still cuddle her.
- 15:44Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a I mean going back to my friend Katie.
- 15:48Speaker 2: She also helps dog sit sometimes, and she once told
- 15:51Speaker 2: me Peaches is the kind of weird that I really love.
- 15:55Speaker 2: She has a personality. She has a personality.
- 15:58Speaker 1: Wait what does that say about me? Oh? Good?
- 16:01Speaker 2: Anyway, don't read too much into it. It was a compliment.
- 16:05Speaker 2: I suspect.
- 16:09Speaker 1: I'm a dic.
- 16:10Speaker 2: We should we should.
- 16:12Speaker 1: I'm gonna steal you.
- 16:13Speaker 2: A cat all right, well, listeners, we always love hearing
- 16:21Speaker 2: about your pets. Pictures of pets appreciated, Please let us
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- 16:42Speaker 2: super producer, Christina, our executive producer and a contributor Joe.
- 16:46Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Christina has a wonderful cat.
- 16:48Speaker 2: Oh yes, we have indeed, and thanks to you for listening.
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