Latest / CareTalk: Healthcare. Unfiltered. / Safeguarding Patient Health Data with AI Solutions w/ AllClear ID CEO Bo Holland
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- 0:00It's theoretically possible to assemble and interpret all of a patient's medical records for treatment and research, but in practice, it's nearly impossible.
- 0:08How can AI interoperability and a patient centric approach change that reality?
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- 1:29Welcome to Health Biz Briefs.
- 1:31I'm David Williams, President of Health Business Group here with Bo Holland, founder and CEO of All Clear ID.
- 1:36Bo is launching Health Bank One to give consumers access to all their medical records.
- 1:41Welcome, Bo.
- 1:42Thank you, David.
- 1:43Nice to be here.
- 1:45The first question is, why is identity protection so important in US health care?
- 1:49Well, there's two dimensions of it.
- 1:51One is if someone steals your identity and then goes and gets medical care in your name, which does absolutely happen.
- 1:57Now, your medical records have been contaminated with somebody else's information, someone else's blood type, someone else's history.
- 2:04And as you know, that history is what determines the care that you're going to get, the medications that you can take.
- 2:10And so it's a real problem.
- 2:12And so that needs to be resolved and cleaned up and there's a lot of medical identity theft.
- 2:17There is also just plain misidentification, which is not malicious, but you know, John Smith goes to the hospital.
- 2:24They get matched to the wrong John Smith and now the records are, you know, bent that way.
- 2:29And so being able to have a strong identity that solves those kinds of problems, both preventing the bad guy from using your information or the good guys from simply making a mistake like a record mismatch or a duplication is really key.
- 2:42So that's one side of it.
- 2:43The other side of it is we see this incredible rise in these ransomware attacks and health care, and these are destructive and they really have impact on patients.
- 2:52During the change health care breach earlier this year, people couldn't get their prescriptions refilled because the data wasn't available.
- 3:01Ascension had a massive outage.
- 3:03We live in Austin, Texas, and for weeks, the hospital system there was working off of paper and they didn't have access to the data.
- 3:12you know, makes you think, you're like, hey, maybe I should have a copy of this myself.
- 3:17And so if those big systems go down, at least I've got the data with me as a backup.
- 3:21And if I need to go to the pharmacy and get something refilled, I can at least show them the record.
- 3:25I can send it to them.
- 3:26If I need to get care, my records are always available.
- 3:30you know, as a resiliency system, as a backup system, when these attacks happen, you should have your own copy of the data.
- 3:38What is Health Bank One and why would anyone need it?
- 3:42So it is a bank that works for patients and it enables patients to basically exercise their new rights to have all of their data and actually control their medical information.
- 3:53So today that's not true, right?
- 3:55Our data lives all over the place at every doctor you've been to, every pharmacy, every lab, and you don't really have access to it.
- 4:02And so that is a real problem, the next place you need to go to get care.
- 4:06They always want to know your history.
- 4:08You fill out those forms again and again and again.
- 4:11They never seem to remember anything about you.
- 4:14And so what the bank does is it's a new entity that works for the patient and it does a couple of simple jobs.
- 4:20Collect all of your data in one safe place and keep it very secure with banking grade technology, not healthcare grade technology.
- 4:28And then number two, enable you to share that data with anyone worldwide.
- 4:31And so as a patient, we are free agents and we can share information freely, just like with our money, right?
- 4:38We can spend our money.
- 4:39Anywhere we want to, we can spend it wisely, poorly.
- 4:42We encourage you to do your best, but now you have that same power over your data.
- 4:46So it gives you a lot of options about where you're gonna go and get care.
- 4:49And then the third thing it does is actually helps you understand those records, understand your care, understand your conditions, what questions you should be asking the doctor.
- 4:58We built in an AI capability that will read in on your medical records and can answer any medical question for you.
- 5:04We're using GPT-4 there, which is the gold standard.
- 5:08And so it's a really empowering experience to get that lab test and instead of looking at it and going, huh, you know, that good, bad and different?
- 5:17I don't know.
- 5:18Is it worse than last time?
- 5:19I don't know.
- 5:20Being able to just ask a question in plain English.
- 5:23How am I doing?
- 5:24How is this better or worse than last time?
- 5:25What should I do?
- 5:27Same kind of questions you asked your doctor, but you only get 17 minutes with your doctor, you know, once in a while.
- 5:32Now you've got an app, the bank provides you that capability.
- 5:35And importantly, Privacy, everything is private.
- 5:39No data leaves the bank without your explicit consent.
- 5:42So you can have these chat conversations.
- 5:44You can take advantage of AI, can have your records, you know, in a safe and very private place.
- 5:50You mentioned AI is a key part of Health Bank One.
- 5:53How will that evolve if you look ahead maybe three years?
- 5:56What would be different?
- 5:58That's a great question.
- 6:00you know, hard to even imagine where this is going.
- 6:02You look at the last 24 months, how it has just, you know, gone by leaps and bounds.
- 6:06And this technology is remarkable.
- 6:09And one of the things people don't realize is that medicine has been publishing information forever.
- 6:14And so in terms of what CHAP GPT understands and knows, it is very deep in medicine and very knowledgeable.
- 6:22And Stanford has index where they show it's beating most medical students in terms of knowledge.
- 6:27It's better than most doctors in terms of knowledge and accuracy.
- 6:31And the bet is over the next two, three months, we're going to get another upgrade here.
- 6:36that will put it in the 99 % accuracy level.
- 6:40So whether that pans out exactly or not, the point is that it's good today, it's really good, and it's going to get a lot better.
- 6:47And so I think the standard of care is actually gonna flip.
- 6:51There's been skepticism of AI, totally get it.
- 6:54But if you use it, use it responsibly with the right training and boundaries.
- 6:59I think now if you're not using AI, if you're a doctor and you're not using AI, as a way to make sure you're up to date on the latest, that you're considering every alternative.
- 7:08When you see something new you haven't seen before, maybe the AI has.
- 7:12And so if you're not using that kind of a tool as a doctor, if you're not using that kind of tool as a patient, if you're still just Googling and web embedding, you are way behind the curve.
- 7:22So I think this is gonna be a tool that goes from, nobody even heard of it 24 months ago to now it's an absolute essential tool that you've gotta have.
- 7:31And it really does make a difference.
- 7:33particularly on the communication front between you and your doctors so you can have meaningful conversations where you actually understand what they're talking about.
- 7:41And I think most of them will enjoy talking to someone who's more informed than what we are today.
- 7:49Well, that's it for the latest Health Biz Brief.
- 7:50If you like what you hear, check out my Health Biz Podcast for a full length interview with Bo about his life and career.
- 7:57Bo Holland, founder and CEO of All Clear ID, thanks for joining me today on Health Biz Briefs.
- 8:02Thank you so much, David.
- 8:03Enjoy it.