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6-02-26 Hour 1 - Spurs defeat OKC in 7/Blockbuster NFL trades/Will you watch Stanley Cup Final? · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardy and Caine on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 2: All right, so a lot to get to from over
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  Speaker 2: the weekend. We were off yesterday and Vic, I know
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  Speaker 2: yesterday was a tough day for you guys, and hearts
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  Speaker 2: go out to you. You been being in the whole
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  Speaker 2: family and all that. How was it.
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  Speaker 3: It was a great day, beautiful day, and thank you
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  Speaker 3: to all those especially from Altitude who were present there.
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  Speaker 2: So I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 3: The the cruel irony of yesterday is you know, I
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  Speaker 3: heard from Coach Adelman about my dad's passing and two
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  Speaker 3: hours later his dad passed. I mean, it's it's crazy
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  Speaker 3: how these happened in bunches, right yep. Rick out was
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  Speaker 3: a legendary coach. Rick Adelman did it with multiple teams.
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  Speaker 3: Rick Adelman's a Hall of famer and moje I know
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  Speaker 3: you know about the legacy of Rick Adelan. So again
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  Speaker 3: it's that time of year. You know, the older you get,
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  Speaker 3: the more more funerals you would end.
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  Speaker 4: It's weird, Yeah, Vick, I want to comment about that.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my eyes were a lot of something in my
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  Speaker 4: eyes yesterday. I thought you and your family were really brave,
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  Speaker 4: and I thought you were I thought you guys were awesome.
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  Speaker 4: I I really, I really am thankful that I was there,
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  Speaker 4: and it was wonderful to see everybody, and wonderful to
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  Speaker 4: see all the all your friends and family and all
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  Speaker 4: the old school in North Denver folk right coming out
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  Speaker 4: for for your dad. It was. It was really good, man,
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  Speaker 4: really good. You know.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny because over the weekend I was thinking about
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  Speaker 2: a lot of different things, especially when it came down
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  Speaker 2: to the Spurs, and I couldn't believe because we didn't
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  Speaker 2: we weren't able to talk about the things over the
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  Speaker 2: weekend yesterday that the Spurs were able to beat Okay, see, I.
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  Speaker 5: Still can't believe they won that series.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's crazy to me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I still honestly, guys, I thought, Okay, they'll give him,
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  Speaker 3: they'll give him a run to scare but okay, SE's
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  Speaker 3: not losing Game seven.
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  Speaker 5: It's not gonna happen.
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  Speaker 2: The NBA has just turned through different teams every year
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  Speaker 2: of Champion. Now you're done, Champion, Now you're done. Now Okay,
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  Speaker 2: See was with without Jalen Williams, which is obviously big
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  Speaker 2: for them, and Mitchell.
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  Speaker 6: The way booh, the way boo freaking who that Wemby
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  Speaker 6: put Chet Holmgren in a complex mind pretzel, Yeah, exactly
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  Speaker 6: and negated him entirely.
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  Speaker 2: And look, it's weird because you could say that the
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  Speaker 2: Spurs got really lucky that the one year that they
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  Speaker 2: got really bad, they get the number one pick and
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  Speaker 2: it's women Yama. The Nuggets got lucky because the best
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  Speaker 2: player in the world that they found for years, and
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  Speaker 2: best player in franchise history all timer was a second
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  Speaker 2: round Well.
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  Speaker 4: He was just hidden. Nobody knew him, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: the Spurts got lucky because everybody knew that when but
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  Speaker 4: Yama was a freak and he was going to be
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  Speaker 4: a total stud and they win the lottery. The Nuggets
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  Speaker 4: got lucky that nobody knew who Joker was or what
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  Speaker 4: he was or anything else, and they took a shot
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  Speaker 4: on him in the second round.
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  Speaker 3: But what's scary about san Antonio is, I know everyone's
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  Speaker 3: focused on Wimby, rightfully so, but that's supporting cast the
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  Speaker 3: buckets that were made and clutched. The Dylan Harper rebound bucket,
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  Speaker 3: the Stefan castle, then Devin vassal, the vassals and castles,
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  Speaker 3: holding Johnson.
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  Speaker 4: The vassals and castles.
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  Speaker 5: The whole team is full of you know, they looked hungry.
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  Speaker 5: And maybe you hit.
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  Speaker 3: On something, Brett, you hit on something about the recycling
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  Speaker 3: of NBA champions. Now we're headed toward the eighth different champion,
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  Speaker 3: right the Maybe the era of dynasties is gone. We'll see,
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  Speaker 3: we'll see if the OKAC can reconvene. It's not as
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  Speaker 3: easy as it sounds.
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  Speaker 4: Or it looks.
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  Speaker 3: But I wonder what the want to and the just
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  Speaker 3: the the hunger because we thought, we thought the Nuggets
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  Speaker 3: were at the beginning of a dynasty. And I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: Boston felt the same way. Yeah, and I'm sure OKC
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  Speaker 3: feels the same way. But I wonder what changes beyond
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  Speaker 3: just the changing of rosters. Is there a God, it's hard,
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  Speaker 3: it's hard to regain that same hunger level.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. And maybe this is
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  Speaker 2: maybe this is part of what the NBA has tried
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  Speaker 2: to do with all the things that we hate with
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  Speaker 2: aprons and taxes and bird rights and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 2: is that it's hard to keep the same roster at
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  Speaker 2: a high enough level to win multiple titles for a
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  Speaker 2: long time. Maybe that's part of it. But here's what's funny, Vick.
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  Speaker 2: I thought about you over the weekend because I'm just like,
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  Speaker 2: I know, Vic is hearing the same things that I'm hearing.
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  Speaker 2: You're screaming at your phone. The amount of this that
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  Speaker 2: I saw over the weekend because I listened to a
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  Speaker 2: podcast from Bill Simmons, I heard Dim Contempts talk about
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  Speaker 2: this that you know, if the Nuggets really want to
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  Speaker 2: keep Peyton Watson, they can pay him, they just need
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  Speaker 2: to go into the tax But it said as if
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  Speaker 2: they're unwilling to do that because they're cheap. And I
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  Speaker 2: felt like, do I have to explain this to people
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  Speaker 2: who are experts in the sport of do you think
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  Speaker 2: the Nuggets are championship level or not? If the answer
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  Speaker 2: is yes, then you can go ahead and do that,
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  Speaker 2: But if not, then you can't because then you're stuck.
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  Speaker 3: I don't I don't like to battle people on that
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  Speaker 3: front because when you do, you come off as a shill. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I know, and that's the first first lob is your shill.
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  Speaker 3: But the relative unintelligence of people when they don't when
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  Speaker 3: they refuse to.
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  Speaker 5: Take a step back.
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  Speaker 3: As I texted to some of my friends, I said,
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  Speaker 3: do you think the Nuggets roster currently constructed is a
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  Speaker 3: for sure NBA champion roster. If the answer is yes,
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  Speaker 3: then of course you pay into the tax.
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  Speaker 4: Of course you do.
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  Speaker 5: But if there's any hesitation that, if it's not, then
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  Speaker 5: what are we doing here?
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  Speaker 2: Well, the big problem is, and I could hear this argument.
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  Speaker 2: I remember when they had the big end of the
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  Speaker 2: season press conference, which we still don't know when that
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  Speaker 2: is for the apps, right, moch.
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  Speaker 4: No, because no, Okay, the powers that be have been occupied.
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  Speaker 2: With arsenal stuff. Is that what it is?
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  Speaker 4: Well, you're clone them use funeral? Oh sure, sure, certain
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  Speaker 4: certain things that are important.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the end of the season press conference with the Nuggets,
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  Speaker 2: if you remember, there was something. I think Kronky was
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  Speaker 2: the one who said it. I don't know if it
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  Speaker 2: was him, Tenzer Wallace, Adamman, I don't know who, but
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  Speaker 2: it was we believe this team, fully healthy, is like
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  Speaker 2: a sixty win team that could win a championship. And
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  Speaker 2: it's like, if you feel that way, then maybe there
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  Speaker 2: is something worth going into the tax for it. But
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  Speaker 2: that's a lot of ifs and butts on injuries, especially
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  Speaker 2: for you guys that have been injured a lot lately.
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  Speaker 2: But that question that you asked, Vic, is the team
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  Speaker 2: good enough to win a championship? I think almost everybody
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  Speaker 2: who was a Nuggets fan to be like, no, they
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  Speaker 2: aren't good enough to compete with what the Spurs just did.
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  Speaker 2: They're good enough to compete with a fully healthy Okac. Well,
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  Speaker 2: then if that's the case, you can't go in the
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  Speaker 2: tax because you can't change your roster. So what do
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  Speaker 2: you want? And look, I'm more than I think anybody
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  Speaker 2: here in this town. I almost feel like I go
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  Speaker 2: over the top on this. I don't want any reason
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  Speaker 2: for Peyton Watson not to be here. I truly believe
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  Speaker 2: that a couple of years down the line he could
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  Speaker 2: be the number two to Joker, Like I think he's
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  Speaker 2: got that level ability. I do not want to see
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  Speaker 2: him go.
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  Speaker 3: Do I look like a guy who cares how other
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  Speaker 3: people spend their money?
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  Speaker 2: No, you say that all the time.
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  Speaker 3: That's not that should be no one's role, Like, don't
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  Speaker 3: tell me how to spend my money. Don't you dare
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  Speaker 3: tell me where to spend my money? So I don't
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  Speaker 3: care how much money they decide to spend on this
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  Speaker 3: team or any team. If they want to spend deep
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  Speaker 3: into the text, fine, it doesn't I'm never going to
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  Speaker 3: be critical of that. But for those who are critical
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  Speaker 3: of this, of this nugget situation, I'm going to ask
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  Speaker 3: you a question. Some of the other teams owned by
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  Speaker 3: this ownership group, do they spend with the Rams?
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  Speaker 5: Did you see what they did over the weekend?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Do they go for it?
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  Speaker 4: Hey?
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  Speaker 5: Do they spend with Arsenal? Do they go for it?
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  Speaker 4: Most?
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  Speaker 5: Do they spend with the Avs all way?
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  Speaker 4: To do they go for it all the way?
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  Speaker 3: So what must you to think that they don't go
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  Speaker 3: for it when given the opportunity to go for What
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  Speaker 3: makes you think, oh, this whole thing they're cheap? What
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  Speaker 3: a almost cursed?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how of bs. I don't know where
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  Speaker 4: that came from or why people would say that.
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  Speaker 2: But this is Can I give you a quote from
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  Speaker 2: Tim Bontems? Sure, because I heard first of all Bill Simmons,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe we can find it Nowly Bill Simmons said, well,
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  Speaker 2: you can just pay it like he was just doing
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  Speaker 2: like this. You can pay it. You're rich, You have
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  Speaker 2: a you have a bagillian dollars.
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  Speaker 3: You can say it just like his Celtics paid it
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  Speaker 3: the year before exactly.
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  Speaker 4: So here's sort of like.
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  Speaker 3: When they shed the entire payroll basically to get back
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  Speaker 3: under the second apron, just like that.
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  Speaker 2: Because their team wasn't good enough and they had to change.
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  Speaker 4: They knew they were well, they were trying to sell
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  Speaker 4: it to were they not.
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  Speaker 2: Well. Here's the quote from Tim Bontams, and it's about
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  Speaker 2: the Nuggets are expected to trade Cameron Johnson or Christian Brown.
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  Speaker 2: He said the Nuggets have never been big spenders, which
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  Speaker 2: is why the belief around the league is that ca
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  Speaker 2: m Johnson on an expiring twenty three million dollar deal
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  Speaker 2: or Christian Brown five year, one hundred and twenty five
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  Speaker 2: million dollar extension is likely to be moved to create
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  Speaker 2: enough room to give Watson something in the per year
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  Speaker 2: range of those players. Here's what's funny. The end of
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  Speaker 2: that sentence is totally fine, because I've been saying you
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  Speaker 2: got to get rid of one of those two to
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  Speaker 2: make room to sign Peyton Watson. That needs to happen.
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  Speaker 2: I'm fully on board with that, but his the premise
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  Speaker 2: of it is the reason they're doing this don't want
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  Speaker 2: to spend money as opposed to what the real answer is.
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  Speaker 2: You want to keep a good player, but if you
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  Speaker 2: want the ability to change your roster, you have to
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  Speaker 2: stay beneath the cap because that's what the rules say.
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  Speaker 4: Now here's such a college. I almost did the same
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  Speaker 4: thing you did.
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  Speaker 2: It is funny though, like when I say this, most
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  Speaker 2: I know what's coming our way is like, oh, you
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  Speaker 2: sound like shills. It's like, no, I sound like somebody
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  Speaker 2: understands the rules.
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  Speaker 4: Let me let me expand on that exactly right. For
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  Speaker 4: those who say, well, you guys sound like shills, please
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  Speaker 4: understand that if you do spend into any apron, the
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  Speaker 4: restrictive nature of it is significant. You're handcuffed. You're not
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  Speaker 4: allowed to do anything else except spend into an apron,
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  Speaker 4: which I'm sure if they thought that they had a
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  Speaker 4: team that could run it back five years in a
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  Speaker 4: row and win four out of five championships, I'm guessing
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  Speaker 4: they would probably do it. But that's not the way
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  Speaker 4: the CBA works. In the NBA, once you get to
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  Speaker 4: a certain point that the more you spend, the more
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  Speaker 4: the handcuffs get tighter behind your back, right, Yeah, and
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  Speaker 4: you're like it, there's one more click and for every
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  Speaker 4: extra dollar, it's more another click on your handcuffs. And
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  Speaker 4: if you think that this team, I mean clearly it's not.
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  Speaker 4: We thought it was on paper, but it's not that meme.
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  Speaker 4: So that being said, you've got to be able to
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  Speaker 4: maintain flexibility.
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  Speaker 2: Like do they think after the Nuggets won a title,
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  Speaker 2: the reason why Bruce Brown's back is because they didn't
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  Speaker 2: want to pay him? Or is it because you were
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  Speaker 2: already over the tax and you weren't allowed to sign
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  Speaker 2: him for the number that he signed in Indiana.
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  Speaker 4: That's what it is. You were not allowed to Literally,
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  Speaker 4: you couldn't do it. The league says, you're yeah, you're
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  Speaker 4: not allowed to do it.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: So it's frustrating that I feel like I need to
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  Speaker 2: say this all the time. I'm just I'm trying to.
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  Speaker 2: I am admitting I don't think this team's good enough.
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  Speaker 2: I watched the Spurs. You wouldn't beat them in a
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  Speaker 2: seven game series.
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  Speaker 5: The team is headed OKC.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, you hear all of the fear coming from
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  Speaker 3: the ok See camp about what's about to happen. The
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  Speaker 3: chet contract's about to kick in Kasan Wallas is about
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  Speaker 3: to get himself a deal that's gonna get paid. They're
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  Speaker 3: gonna have to start paying these guys top of the
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  Speaker 3: line money, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The problem with the Nuggets roster presently constructed, it's not
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  Speaker 3: necessarily a talent level because I think if everybody's healthy,
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  Speaker 3: if if big, if if everybody's healthy, they.
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  Speaker 5: Can beat anyone.
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  Speaker 4: Right, here's the problem.
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  Speaker 5: It's too top heavy.
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  Speaker 3: There's too much money spent at the top of this contract,
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  Speaker 3: of these contracts, and it needs.
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  Speaker 5: To be spread out a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Because if you do get to the playoffs and somebody
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  Speaker 3: misses three four games.
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  Speaker 5: What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do?
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  Speaker 5: You have to have some level of depth to replace.
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  Speaker 2: Those guys, which is what are you gonna have?
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  Speaker 5: Five? Are you gonna pay six players? Right now?
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  Speaker 3: If the Nuggets win on this course and they follow
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  Speaker 3: everybody's hey, just pay Peyton Watson his money. Okay, let's
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  Speaker 3: just say they pay it. Then they pay Nicole Okich
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  Speaker 3: north of fifty, Jamal Murray north of fifty. They've got
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  Speaker 3: Christian Brown locked in for five years north of twenty,
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  Speaker 3: Cam Johnson north of twenty, Peyton Watson north of twenty.
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  Speaker 5: That's six guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, who the hell are you gonna put on that
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  Speaker 3: bench outside of minimum contracts.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's vet minimums and rookie contracts. But you don't
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  Speaker 2: have draft picks anymore.
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  Speaker 5: Just just use your brains.
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  Speaker 4: It's too top heavy.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll jump back to this in a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Three h three five four nine two five. You brought
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  Speaker 2: up the trades, Vic. One of them is very consequential,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm glad it's not the one that resides in
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  Speaker 2: the AFC. We'll get to it in just a second. Instagram.
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  Speaker 2: All right, So a couple of big things from over
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  Speaker 2: the weekend, really yesterday. I can't believe Miles Garrett actually
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  Speaker 2: got dealt. It just felt like for years, I mean
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  Speaker 2: last year he said I want to be traded, and
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  Speaker 2: they said, well, what about forty million dollars a year?
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  Speaker 2: He goes, Cleveland's fine, It's fine. I was just lying
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  Speaker 2: to you. Okay, sorry, but the Rams are doing that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care about draft picks thing again, because they
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  Speaker 2: traded one already this year, first round pick for Trent McDuffie.
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  Speaker 2: Now they traded their next year's first, their year after
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  Speaker 2: that second, the year after that third and Jared Verse,
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  Speaker 2: the one guy they actually used a draft pick on
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  Speaker 2: recently to go to Cleveland. Now, genius move for them
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  Speaker 2: because the Rams were right there knocking on the doorstep
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  Speaker 2: with Seattle for a Super Bowl. And now you got
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  Speaker 2: the guy who just set they would have won the
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  Speaker 2: all time single season sack.
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  Speaker 4: Or they would have won the Super Bowl if they
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  Speaker 4: had gotten their past the division rival Seattle Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Now on the other side, and the one that
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  Speaker 2: I think affects the Broncos more obviously is aj Brown.
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  Speaker 2: This trade to the Patriots is now official. Here's my
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  Speaker 2: question for you. When's it gonna happen? What is Aj
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  Speaker 2: Brown gonna melt down and be pissed off, like, well, give.
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  Speaker 4: Give it a I don't know how long in the
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  Speaker 4: training camp will he.
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  Speaker 2: Say it will be camp, It'll be It'll be some
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  Speaker 2: time in the middle of the year. But he's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be unhappy with targets or something like that.
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  Speaker 5: But I think you got to build that in.
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  Speaker 3: I think the talent speaks for itself, so you just
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  Speaker 3: build in that diva mentality. Understand it comes with the package,
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  Speaker 3: and that you know he he's won with that mentality.
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  Speaker 4: Before. Yeah, but don't you have a young well, I
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  Speaker 4: guess I don't know where Drake May's brain is.
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  Speaker 3: Overall, you got to get better motion, even though you're
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  Speaker 3: got to get better understood.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm saying to install an element like that inside
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  Speaker 4: your locker room needlessly it's risky. I think it's risky
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  Speaker 4: only because you still have a young quarterback that how
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  Speaker 4: impressionable is he? When this guy starts squawking? Will you know,
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  Speaker 4: do you try to feed the baby bird that's screaming
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  Speaker 4: all the time? I mean, is that where your is
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  Speaker 4: that where your worms go first?
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  Speaker 5: Will the player? Man?
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  Speaker 4: I know he's a help dude. I know he's a.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Hell of a Can I give you guys two examples
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: of something though? Last year when the Broncos played against
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: the Eagles, can we agree on this. Did the Eagles
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: lose that game because of aj Brown?
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: No? They lost the game because because they wouln't run
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: the football. They lost?
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Why did they not run the football?
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: The entire week he was bitching and moaning about not
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: getting the football correct.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Remember that was a four to oh Eagles team that
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: was up seventeen to three going in the fourth quarter,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: and they ran the ball with Saquon six times.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: You want to remember about that game? We sat here
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: after the game had said thank God, yes, Silianni so
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: stupid or was stupid because they they didn't give Saquon
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: the ball at all.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: So let me give you guys something else. Because I
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: remembered this, I just couldn't remember exactly what he said,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: So this was an Instagram post. It was two days
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: after they won the Super Bowl. AJ Brown said this,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: after a few days, I've had time to reflect on
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: being a champion. I tried to feel how everyone made
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: it seem to be a champion, and unfortunately it was
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: short lived two days. To be exact, I've never been
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: a champion at the highest level before, but I thought
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: my hard work would be justified by winning it all.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: It wasn't. My thrill for the game comes when I dominate.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: It's it's the hunt that does it for me. It's
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: when the dB drops his head and surrender because he
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: can't bleep with me. The intense battles, early mornings, late
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: night sacrifices. I love putting smiles on people's faces. Don't
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: get me wrong, but it just wasn't what I thought
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: it would be. It's back to the journey I love most.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: It was after his team won the Super Bowl and
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: he's like, you know what really gets my rocks.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: Off when I get off right right?
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just I don't know how you handle
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: a player like that. And to Vick's point, incredible player,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: like prototypical number one, big body, tall, lanky, thick, like
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: all the stuff you want out of a number one
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: wide out. And I think people get confused by this.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: You know, I had somebody texting the Appetizer saying, well,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: the Patriots are a run first team, and I know
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: kind of. I don't think. I think that the postseason
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: has scrambled people's brains on what the Patriots offense was.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: That was the second best offense in the league the
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: entire year. They were fourth in the league in passing yards.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: They threw the ball a lot, Drake May was this
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: close to winning an MVP.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and then Drake when he heard his shoulder, his arm,
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: what was it?
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Something happened with his shoulder and they couldn't do anything
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: offensively in the postseason, And I think that's messed with
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: people's idea of what the Patriots offense was.
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: When the ball got knocked out of Drake May's hands.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: That postseason stretch was not what it looked like in
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: the regular season for them, for sure, But he's a
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: huge addition. The question is, do you think the Patriots
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: are now better than what they were last year with
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: aj Brown?
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: Well? Are the Broncos better with Jayleen Waddle? Yes? I
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: think the answer to that question is also yes, yes, yes, I.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: Mean again, I get those guys credit.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: If you don't continue to advance personnel wise, if you're
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: staying still, you're going backwards. You have to add, you
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: have to do something, you have to subtract ad you
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: have to dabble, dabble as a better word. I don't
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: think you could take the entire roster to say let's
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: try this again.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Well, the question is, and somebody said he wasn't a
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: problem in Philly for a long time. He was there
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: for four years and it felt like the last what
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: two were big problems because he got well here's the
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: thing that's half his time there.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Wide receivers being divas is not new. If for some
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: reason they are, they should be on tour with Elton John. Yeah,
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: And who are the biggest divas in music?
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: Lady Gaga, Lady Gaga, j Lo JL, like they should
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: be on tour with all wide receivers, should be like
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: singers and dancers on tour with all of them, right, Yeah,
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: play lead guitar for Elton John that kind of thing.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: So that's not new. But once they get their ring,
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: and he did get his. I mean a lot of
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: these guys have that what about me mentality. We've seen
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: it right here in Denver, Colorado. Why ain't I getting mine?
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: How do I get mine? I need mine? Where's mine?
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you a funny story. Yesterday I saw Justin
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Simmons and talked to him for like fifteen minutes.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: This maybe the most unselfish player in the history of
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: the league.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm talking to buddies and they're like, man, why
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: didn't John Payton want him? And it's like Sehn Payton
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: wanted to have his own leadership, And it was very
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: clear to me, at least beginning of his tenure, anybody
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: who was considered a leader on the team. He was like,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: whether you're a good leader, bad leader, or whatever, He's
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: just like, I'm gonna do things my way, So we're
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: gonna ship you guys out. And then the AJ Brown
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: news comes in and it's I wonder if the Broncos
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: were like interested at all? And I go, you just
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: saw Justin Simmons. If he didn't want him here, there
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: is no way that Sean Payton wanted AJ Brown here,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: No chance. And that's my thought from the very beginning.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Well, we talked about agent who brought up AJ Brown
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: a couple of months ago, and I'm like, yeah, I
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: do not he.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Did because he was available and you needed a wide out. Yeah.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: It's always that, it's that balancing act between my goodness,
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: is he a player? My goodness? Can he catch the football?
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Can he get free? Can he help you win? Absolutely
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: on the field, but it's everything that comes along with it.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Is it worth it?
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Which?
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: And obviously to the Patriots and Mike Rabel, who I
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: didn't Mike Rabel coach him? Yeah, so Rabel knows him.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: They have a previous relationship, one of his previous who
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: would you Yeah that was a joke anyway. So no,
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying so that that helps the situation as
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: opposed to coming in cold and don't all go to hell?
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Has there been a hockey player that's like that motion?
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: It's like what like AJ Brown, like a guy who's
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: just maybe he's more and it's so hard to hockey,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: but like a me centric player who maybe the team's
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: doing well, but he's like that's almost.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Every NFL receiver, though you can there's a ton of
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: AJ Brown.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: No, I know, I'm trying to figure out. Is there
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: a hockey player that's been that way?
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: A diva?
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Not like little diva, not like there have been divas.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, yes, but I think overall in hockey you
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: can't get away with it nearly as much as you
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: can because.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Your teammate will punch you in the face. They'll do
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: the old Josh Manson. Did I want to punch him
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: in the head? Yes, I did.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: I've got the late grey Peter mc nabb. This is
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: how you This is how rooms used to be kept
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: in line in the NHL. A great story about Clold
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: de Mew and Scott Stevens with the devils, little disagreement
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: in the room. Anyway, I'm not gonna get into but
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: but this is how. This is how guys police other
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: guys inside that league. Yeah, and you know, I listen.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: Once the money becomes so crazy in the NHL, maybe
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: you'll have that too. Maybe you will have guys who
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: just they're total me guys, and you know that's all
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: that matter. Can you imagine a guy winning the Stanley
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Cup and going, you know what. It lasted for a
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: couple of days and then I realized, you know what
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: I like to do. I just like to score goals. Now,
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: don't get me wrong. I mean I want to make
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: the fans happy. I want you know, I want them
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: to smile. But man, I love to I love to
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: take off and burn a guy down the wing, go
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: harder the front of that and an undressing goalie. That's
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: what really fuels me. That's why I play this game,
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: not to win Stanley Cup. Can you imagine a dude
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: saying that, well, Vic, it's like that. That would be
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: an impossible thought process.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Dick, would you say that superstar NBA player has a
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: way worse diva problem than wide receivers in the NFL.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, the NBA is a DVA league. It's a
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: it's a different league. It's a different I mean, it
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: just is. It's it's more individual centric. So take all
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: the wide receiver divas and that's the NBA.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: You want to know the biggest divas or up there
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: with the biggest divas. Talk to a major league picture.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: You mentioned that a lot.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: I don't think that is nearly the same level. That
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: is not nearly You know.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: What I'm gonna do, I've been lax in this regard.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: I'm lapsed. I'm gonna get in there. I'm gonna go.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to the Rocks and I'm going to
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: get into that clubhouse and I'm gonna shoot the breeze
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: with some of these pictures modern day picture.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Kyle Freeland is lebron No.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: He is absolutely not Kevin Freeland. But I can't tell you,
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: over the course of my career how many pictures I've
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: walked away from going that guy's a complete a hole.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: And you'd think that, well most maybe you bring that
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: out in people, and and maybe I do in some folks,
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: but it wasn't just me. Okay, some people that I respect,
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: some people that I think are good people were basically
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: they witnessed him, were subjected to the same things over
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: the years that and that's all. I'm not gonna name
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: any names. I have one big name in mind who
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: was no longer here and hasn't been for quite some time.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: But boy, there was a time when it's starting pictures,
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: any picture in Major League Baseball.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: She hated Denny Nagel that much.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: Hun, No, no, not Denny. It was not Denny. It
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: wasn't Hampton. It was wasn't that. It wasn't him either.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: You heard it here first, just say it. Who cares?
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: You said? He's not here?
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: I did not like Jamie Wright at all. And of
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: all the names you could have, I know, well, because
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: that's and that's my point is, you're not even You're
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: not even that freaking good.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: All right, there's no bigger diva in sports than the
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: sports talk show host. Let's be honest.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of yeah, a lot of devas, right,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: that's all a shara, But I'm deserving. I earned this.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: You want to hear, Dava.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Well, no, listen, first of all, we're not. But second
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: of all, when somebody types into your when when you
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: get a seventy year old woman type again, say, mosh,
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: I hate everything about you. I hate your face, hate
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: your voice, I hate the way you talk, I hate
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: what you say. I mean that'll that'll knock you down
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: a few pecks.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Can we all make a decision as a show. I
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: think this is fair for me to say. Now I
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: have caught a lot of grief because as a bit
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I was rooting against a nun in the n C
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: double a Target.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure if it was a bit. I think
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: it was done with a lot of zes.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: God, you were over zellous.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Can we all agree, though, that Moser has way more
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: of an old woman problem than I do. He battles
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: with all of them, every single one. He tells them
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: if he sees them to their face, don't die soon.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Like that's what he says to them.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's not way.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Worse of a problem than I have.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: Okay, it's not. That's not what happened. Look, you bet
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: against her, don't stay out here catch your death. You
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: you literally bet against you bet against an old, late,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: one hundred and three year old old lady, and God,
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: you threw your money on the line.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: What did I say? What did I say when I
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: put one hundred bucks down on whoever Loyal in Chicago
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: was playing? I don't even remember. And I said, we'll
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: let God decide. I walked out with two hundred dollars.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that money eventually will kill you, and God will
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: decide that's you.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: You want to have a devil money man?
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Can I ask you guys this just real quick. So
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: the Aspiration founder Joseph Sandberg has been sentenced to fourteen
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: years in prison, fourteen for a number of different things,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: but it's defrauding investors and all this different stuff. Is
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: the NBA just like, yeah, we're done with that.
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: I know, I know. It's like, all right, he's going
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: to jail. We're good, everybody's fine.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: It seems very clear there was something nefarious in payments
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: being made there.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: Why I'm always reading about these guys.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: With the fraud, defrauding investors out of millions millions upon millions.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: And I asked myself, Brett, why aren't you smart enough
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: to go to defraud people out of millions? I thought about, like,
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: what's the play?
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: What's what is it? What's the play? Give me your money?
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: I watched Uh, I forget the name of the movie,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: but it was de Niro was playing.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Gosh.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: This was a while ago Bernie made off okay, and
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: the movie was just essentially this. He would go up
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: to people who they give him millions and millions of
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: dollars and he would just go any money's good. That
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: seemed like the whole premise of the movie is he
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: just looked at me and was like, no problems at all,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: We're doing great.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: What is to stop you from every morning on this
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: radio show? Give me your millions.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: Or thousands, whatever you have. I'll take care of it.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: That I would die of a heart attack because I
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: couldn't lie to people that way. I couldn't do it.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I'm a terrible liar. I'm really bad at it, and
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I couldn't.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Keep it together.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: But yeah, like you have to be a psychopath to
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: be one of these people, show no emotion, no care
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: for your fellow human being, like Moser, give me ten grand,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: trust me. I'll put it in some safe accounts. Where
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: did I get the jet?
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: Maybe don't worry about that.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Maybe it makes me good.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe it makes me olympus. Maybe it makes me uh,
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know what it would make me. But I'll
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: say this, I couldn't live with myself if I did that.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: You take somebody's life savings and you flush it down
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: the toilet for your own benefit. But that's it.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, there's one thing that I've considered as
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: far as defrauding and it wouldn't be people would be banks.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I'm just I'm gonna admit my crime before this happens.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: So you guys, can you put the pieces together really easy?
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: But if I make it to like ninety and I'm
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: at the end, we're taking out some loans and have
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: some yacht parties and stuff like that, you can.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Find that money. Yah, dummy, dummy. Yeah, someone's gonna have
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: to pay back those loans.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: Your kids, your.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Kids, I'll cut all ties with them.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: You think you think.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Because you have a bunch of debt that it's suddenly
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: gonna be all that's gonna be excused.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: Someone's gonna have to pay for it.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: He's gonna put everything in his wife's name.
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: Correct.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but then nobody's gonna give you any bread if
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: you don't have.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Any collateral, plenty collateral after frauded.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: Most for you, that's a good point.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Defraud moje, get the money, get the money, throw aparty.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: They can get more money and they can throw a part. Perfect.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: You guys don't understand when Mos passes, somebody's changing their
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: name to Mark Moser immediately, just taking all of that.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: So what the kids have learned from this show, In
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: this segment is we're gonna learn how to defraud as
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: many people as we can exactly.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Really, yeah, I don't think that happens vi Vic. If
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I go out and I take, you know, one hundred
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars loan out, that's not my kid's responsibility afterwards.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: This isn't the fourteen hundreds with bloodlines like it dies
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: with me. It would probably go to my wife.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: The fact that you're even planning this is weird to me.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: It is weird. It sounds like you've had some thoughts.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: At night when I'm eighties up and I need to
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: fraud a bank.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: I told you guys, so you would have to know
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: exactly when you kick the bucket.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: Then you would have to have a date in mind.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, if I hit ninety, it's coming sooner or later.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: And at that point it's just like, yeah, I don't know.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: My grandpa went to one oh one? Would you just
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: keep throwing parties?
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: He did?
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Who's gonna stop me?
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: Uh? Three O three'll, hey, how did you two a hundred?
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I made it look easy, you know, three O three
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: five oh four oh nine two five? Bag after this? Okay,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: so we still don't have a date for the uh
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: end of season presser with the Avs. I don't know
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: if this extended break is good news if you're Jared
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Bednar bad news. I don't know. I've heard people argue
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: both ways. One thing I do find interesting is I
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: saw a tweet over the weekend and I I don't
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: think this will surprise anybody, but the Toronto Maple Leafs
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: and Edmonton Oilers are quote very curious to see what
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: happens with Jared Bednar. And here's what I think is
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: interesting about this. If Bednar is let go, I think
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: there's a likelihood that Bednar has a job before the
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Avs hire their next coach.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: I don't think there's any doubt about it.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: And we're talking about you know, when you're talking Edmonton
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: in Toronto, these are premier teams in the NHL. Like
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: when when you have teams at the top of your
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: league that are looking at you like if you're going
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: to do something, then I'm making a phone call like
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: right away. I mean, it tells you what kind of
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: coach you have. But there is an argument for you know,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: maybe it's run its course. We've seen that happen with
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: like Baltimore and John Harbaugh. Last year. You know, I
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: don't know, but I don't know if this sort of
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: extended break before the end of season presser, because my
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: assumption is Moje if he was to be let go,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: it would happen before the press competence.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: It would happen pretty quickly. Yeah, within I mean it's
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: been a week. Yeah, today is I guess eight days,
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: so seven days. Today's the eighth day, as they fell
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: last Tuesday night in Vegas, correct, So even think it
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: would happen pretty quickly, but there's been extenuating circumstances in
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: terms of getting everybody together to do this. So to me,
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: it's I don't know, it doesn't seem odd at all
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: to me, really, it just seems I think that they
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: feel the way that I feel, at least right now,
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: that this is a pretty damn good hockey club and
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: the way you lost was incredibly odd. Not that you
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: would have wouldn't have lost in seven games or whatever,
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: but losing it for is incredibly odd. The odds of
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: that happening again are slim to none. You've got a
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: damn fine hockey club, you know, let's not panic about this. Now.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: That's hard for people to deal with when you realize,
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: hey man, we're not starting tonight at home here in Denver,
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Colorado against the Carolina Hurricanes in the Stanley Cup Final.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: It would be tonight at ball Arena, Game one.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Crazy.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: What are we gonna do with this series? These games?
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: Oh, Vick, I'm driving in today thinking about the series
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: starting tonight. Am I going to? Am I going to?
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: You know what, You're gonna get a lot in this series.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: You're gonna get a lot of dump and chase. That
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: sound fun to you. Two teams that want to dump
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: and chase, but but dump and chase that dump in chase,
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: dump benchase and retrieve the buck.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Here's one thing you could do. You could listen to
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: it right here on A two Sports radio ninety two five.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: Listen to the yeah.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Here on ninety two five. I mean it's gonna be
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: I just think for me optically, it's not going to
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: be my cup of tea. Probably I'll I'll give it
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: a shot, although it's it's still hard for me because
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: I know the Avs. I know they're a really good team.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: This Kanes though, right, I mean, suddenly a Canes fan,
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: is that what's happening here now?
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: Or not? For Vegas.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I don't have a problem with Brenda Moore.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: Sure I can't. I can't stomach Vegas winning, Yeah, I can't.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: There's again, I sat in the crowd for Game three,
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, these people don't deserve happiness. These people
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: don't deserve joy in their lives. Why why why are
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: they being subjected to joy right now when I'm in
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: such pain? These people, they don't deserve it.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Where do all those people come from? The passionate Vegas
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Golden Knight hockey fans?
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: You know, Vic, that's a great question. I do not know.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: I do not know. I mean, I think a lot
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: of it probably is tourism hockey in some regards. But
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: they've got their fan base down there, They've got their peeps,
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: you know, They've got a lot of transplants and snowbirds
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: and everything else that goes down there.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: What is that actually a thing?
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Do people just go to a game because they're in Vegas?
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: That might sound stupid to say, but likes that's different though,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Like if I was visiting Minneapolis, I wouldn't be like, oh,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: I'll just go to the Tea Waves game.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: I think some of it is people whether they become
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Vegas Golden Knights fans. Maybe they are, but they live
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: at Santa a Reno. They live in wherever they live,
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: and they like to go to Vegas, right, So now
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: they're Golden Knights fans, so they incorporate that into their
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: trip to Vegas. I think some of that is the case. Certainly,
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: there were plenty of Avalanche fans there. There were a
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: lot of ABS fans in the building. That was good.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: I I enjoyed seeing that. So and then, of course
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: Vegas has gotten big. I mean it's it's grown over
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: the years. And so they have their own teachers and
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: doctors and lawyers and construction workers and whatever else. I mean,
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: they have their own people who who live there, and
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: that's the that's their home.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: They have an airport, they have an airport and everything. No,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I know that they have people that live there and
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: have fans. You said tourism stuff. I was like, I
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: don't know how many guys go to Vegas, and well, like,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: let's just go to wait.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: I will say this, I took photos of it. Let
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: me show you a photo of it. I took photos
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: of it when I was there, photos of what I'm going.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: Let me show you the picture first, Brett, and then but.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: What was your took photos of something in Vegas?
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: What's that?
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: A naked woman? It looked like beside the naked Oh,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I was distracted. It looks like construction.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: That's the new base baseball stadium. Gotcha, they are hauling.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: But on that baseball stadium last time I was there,
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: it was a hole in the ground.
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: Is that the old Flamingo?
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: What? Whatever? Is just just west or just south? I'm sorry?
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: Of MGM? What? No? The was that? No the Flamingo?
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: Wasn't there? No link still up? You know?
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: So this isn't near the airport then.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Actually it's not even I'm trying to think. No, it's
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: it's it's south toward the Welcome to Vegas sign. Am
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: I right across from the luxor across down that side?
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Am I right on this? Because I just set all
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: that stuff about if I visited a town, I wouldn't
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: go to a game, but I would go to a
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: baseball game. Why. I've been to plenty of places where
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: I've just been in town and went to a baseball game.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: But I wouldn't do that for basketball or high Maybe
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: the tickets are cheaper. It's part of it. You can
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: get to a baseball game really cheap.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Now, you know. It's well, when we were in La,
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: we thought about, Hey, you want to go see the
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: Dodgers play the Cubs were in town. Yeah, but would
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: you like I can't stomach either of those teams?
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: No?
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, Like, there's something about
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: I think baseball that's a little bit different. Maybe it's
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: just outside going to the park or something. But most
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: if you were taking a vacation, you just went down.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: You're like, oh, I found myself in Tampa, me and
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: the bear here just hanging out on the That's how.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: That's how I got to the sarcophagus one time.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: No, but I'm saying, would you do that for a
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: lightning game?
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Ummm, probably not. It feels like you would, yeah, maybe.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: I mean if you're like, hey, we're hanging out in Baltimore,
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: let's go catch the O's and and the Rays or
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: something like that. Yeah.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: But the venom toward the Vegas Knights is because they
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: got rich so quick. It is the ultimate get rich
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: quickly schemed me. They were born with a literal silver
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: spoon in their mouth.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: That is correct. Yeah, Vicky, You're so right about that.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: It's because again, the league the reason it happened the
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: way it did. And I'm gonna credit Vegas. Let me
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: reiterate this. I credit them for taking advantage of the system.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: But the league changed the expansion system because the previous
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: two teams were Columbus in Minnesota. Minnesota found some success
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: pretty quickly, Columbus languished for an awfully long time, sure,
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: and they wanted to give that team the new team
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: in the league, spending a ton of money on expansion fees,
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: and they had a big interest in this mark. They
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: wanted to give them the opportunity to be competitive right away,
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: not win, not go to the friggin Stanley Cup Final
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: against Washington kind of advantage. But they wanted them to
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: be competitive and not languish in Sin City and have it.
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: They didn't want to risk any kind of failure, I'm sure,
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: and so the rules were implemented to maybe let them have,
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: you know, access to better players from other teams. So
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: then you have the wheeling and dealing in the draft
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: picking and that blah blah blah, and the ars LTI
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: and you got friggin' good right away.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Do you think it should look a lot more like
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: what Seattle's done? Made the playoffs a couple of times,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: won a playoff series here and there, but not really competitive.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: That's what it should look like.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: Yes, it should be a competitive team, but not a
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: team that's gonna go to the Cup final right away.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: And I blame you know what I also do. I
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: blame other gms around the league who are trying to
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: offload problems but also so good players. Or don't take
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: this player, We'll give you two first rounders instead. Yeah,
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: that kind of thing was allowed to happen. Ugh, that's
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: just it'll break your heart.
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• 43:39
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• 43:43
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• 43:44
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• 43:47
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• 43:50
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• 43:54
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