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Joba and the Mouth 2-5-26 · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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It is the worldwide sports radio network.
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Super Bowl 60 is this Sunday in San Francisco as the Seattle
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Seahawks take on the New England Patriots for the granddaddy of
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them all, the Lombardi Trophy. The boys will break down each
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team in the big game from every angle, talk about some X
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factors, some media week shenanigans and make our on
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brand bold predictions. Only a few hours ago the NBA
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trade deadline struck and while the New York teams weren't all
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that active, some big names like James Harden, Anthony Davis,
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Jaron Jackson Junior and former Knicks Unicorn draft pick
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Kristops Porzingis amongst others have new teams to call
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home. We will go through all the names
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that were and weren't traded and where the local favorites and
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powerhouses of the league sit just a week away from the All
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Star break. And before we whip around the
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rest of the NFL news from the Super Bowl media week and mourn
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the loss of the Rangers best offensive player since Yaaramir
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Yaager, we will say all righty then to one of the NBA's all
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time instigators, Tray Mond Green on another all gas, no
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breaks, Wheeling and dealing, styling and profiling.
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Live Thursday night edition of Jabba and the Man.
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The Mets are going to give him a significant They're going to
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have a ton of money to spend. Why not put it in one of the top
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three offensive players in the league?
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We're going to be looking at Aaron Judge and saying that he
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can't win the big game, Michael Jordan said.
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I played 82 games. You don't see the one.
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Doing that a game where? You got to go.
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Before. I told you, giant feet Saquon
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Barkley. At this point,
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Listening to Jabba and the Mouth.
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We are back, ladies and gentlemen.
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You know who I am. My name is Errol Marx.
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Jabba is traveling to Kansas City.
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He will be joining us a little bit later in the show.
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As you know, this is Jabba and the mouth.
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Again, my name is Errol Marks my Co host tonight as always, Mr.
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Speedy PD executive producer Mr. Aaron Fish Fishman on the board.
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Mr. Tommy Poops no NIF tonight. He's hanging out in San
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Francisco at Super Bowl 60. Lot to get into today.
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I want to wish a very happy birthday to my boy, my friend, a
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guy that listens to the show religiously.
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He's hanging out with the fam tonight, his beautiful wife, Mr.
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Kevin. So a shout out to Kevin.
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Happy birthday to Kev and happy birthday to everybody.
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Tonight is been a weird, weird nights.
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It's, it's just begun and I'm sure you're going to hear a lot
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of weird takes on the Super Bowl as we're going to preview
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everything with the Super Bowl tonight.
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But it's crazy because I know a lot of fans sit here and they
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listen to the show and, and, and again, you might not be a fan of
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the show. You might be a fan of the show.
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I I have been a fan of the show even before we even started job
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in the mouth And what I do when I listen after the show, after
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the after we post the show, I listen to the full show.
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And there are things about the show that I kind of contradict
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or I point out in many different ways that some people after the
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show, even myself, I'm listening to my take and I'm like, I agree
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with it, but sometimes I don't. And at that point everybody
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says, well, then you're contradicting yourself.
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I am not contradicting myself when I am giving you my take.
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I am telling you what I think at that point when I'm listening to
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the take and then I get a chance to hear it and be a fan of it.
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Sometimes I agree to it and sometimes I don't.
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And a lot of people are going to say that that that's weird.
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But that's me, ladies and gentlemen.
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You might not agree to it and I am a weirdo.
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If anybody knows me off air, Speedy knows me very, very well.
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And anybody on the show that has met me knows that I'm a little
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bit crazy. I, I do look at things a
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completely different way and might shock you about my
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personality just because you hear it on the show.
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And you might say, wow, this guy is, is interesting, interesting,
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but a little weird. If you think I'm weird on the
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show, boy, oh boy. If you meet me in person, you
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probably think I'm really, really weird.
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So I, I just, I don't want to turn people off when I tell you
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this, that after I give you my take, I will listen to it.
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And sometimes I will go back and I say, yeah, I agree with it.
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Even my picks, I pick, I pick the Super Bowl.
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I pick the Super Bowl tonight. And I could say I'm not going to
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tell you who I'm going to pick until a little bit later, but I
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might pick, pick Seattle. I might pick the Patriots.
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And then after the show, I'll be like, yeah, you know, there I
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am. That's perfect for me.
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That picture, it just, it expresses who I am, ladies and
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gentlemen. And yeah, that that too.
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Fish quit playing games with my heart a little.
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What is that? Backstreet Boys.
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That's got to be Backstreet Boys.
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Yeah, I, I figured it, I knew it was something with the
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Backstreet Boys, but I I'm not a Backstreet Boy fan.
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I am more of an instinct fan, so I, I like No Strings Attached.
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It's actually one of my likable pop albums.
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If I'm, if I'm working out and, and by the way, when I work out,
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I don't listen to heavy metal. I don't listen to rock or house
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music. I listen to soft tunes.
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I need to mellow out. I need to hear the music and
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feel the weight. I got to feel it.
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You know, you know, when you're hanging out with your girl, you
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got to feel it. You got to feel it.
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That's how I, that's how I work out.
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I got to feel the weight in my hands.
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So I, I, I, it might be a little weird again, but I listen to 80s
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music. I listen to some 90s music, CNC
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music factory, that kind of stuff.
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I have to be pumping up, man. So I, I, I, it's funny because
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my uncle the other day, I, I didn't bring my earphones and I
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was playing the music under the weights.
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So I, you have your phone, you put up as high as you can and
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you can listen to the music and he says, what are you listening
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to? You actually listen to this
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garbage and I said, yeah, I listen to it.
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And and for you to say that it's garbage, you know, you were born
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in the 60s and and you are you definitely were listening to CNC
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Music Factory or New Kids on the Block.
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Come on, who doesn't like the New Kids on the Block?
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Hank Tuff, Remember that? Remember that song?
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Does anybody remember that song? Hank Tuff?
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You know, how about this, Every little step I take, you will be
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there. You know, little, little that
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Bobby Brown. Come on guys.
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Or how about some Janet Jackson? I love her too.
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I'm not a big Michael Jackson fan, but there's other reasons
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why I'm not a big Michael Jackson fan.
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But I like Janet. I like her.
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I like her music. I listen to some of that stuff
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too. All right, at 8:45 we will be
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talking to former New York Giants tight end Howard Cross.
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He played from 1989 to 2001 and won a Super Bowl ring, Super
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Bowl 25. So he experienced winning a
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Super Bowl with the New York Giants.
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So I'm very excited to have him on for the first time.
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Thank you, Nathan, for landing this very special guest.
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And I'm, I'm interested to hear what Howard's going to say about
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the Giants organization. He's been working with them over
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the last couple of years as a an analyst on the sideline.
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So Howard interesting personality, very intriguing as
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a as a football fan when it comes to the XS and O's to the
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game and especially the New York Giants time.
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I'm interested to hear what he thinks about John Harbaugh hire
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because I wasn't too fond of it. That's just my all right.
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Ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl 60 will be this Sunday with the
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Seattle Seahawks. Take it on the New England
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Patriots in San Francisco. It will be a rematch of one of
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the most infamous ending endings in Super Bowl history, in Super
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Bowl 49 between the Patriots and the Seahawks, when all the
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Seahawks had to do was give Marshawn Lynch the ball on the
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goal line and they would have won the game.
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This year, the Seahawks opened as 4 1/2 favorites and the line
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has barely moved since then, staying at 4 1/2.
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Both teams quarterbacks are banged up heading into the game.
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Seahawks quarterback Sam Darnold is dealing with an oblique
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injury, while Patriots quarterback Drake May has been
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battling a bad shoulder injury. Seahawks star rookie safety Nick
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Amanori sprained his ankle in practice this week but is fully
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expected to play, according to head coach Mike McDonald.
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Both McDonald and Patriots head coach Mike Rabel, who is in his
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first year as head coach, are in their first ever Super Bowl
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appearance as a head coach. Although Raybould has won three
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championships with the Patriots as a player, both coaches are
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expected to be finalists for Coach of the Year.
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I know everybody's looking at this game and we can go on the
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insurance and the outs. These teams are very matched up
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very, very well. Now, obviously the Seattle
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Seahawks are the better team. They I believe they have the
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better running game. I think they have the better
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talent. They have Najigba, who I think
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is the best offensive weapon in this game.
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And Sam Donald. As much as everybody says that
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Drake May is an MVP candidate, I would say that Sam Donald is
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just as good this year as Drake May was.
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Now, Drake May had 31 touchdowns to Sam Donald's 25.
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Sam Donald did throw 14 interceptions to Drake May 8.
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Drake Mays fumble the ball more than any quarterback in the NFL
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this year. And when you look at both teams
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and you look at the strengths and the weaknesses of these
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teams, both teams have very good defenses.
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But when you look at both teams and the experiences that these
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teams have, these are young teams, the Patriots that were
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not expected to be a Super Bowl contender this year, obviously
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with a new coach and Mike Rabel taking over for the team,
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losing, losing a coach in the offseason.
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And Mayo. Mayo only was there for a year.
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Rabel got an opportunity after he was let go by the Tennessee
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Titans. And Rabel has had success.
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He's been a coach of the year with the Tennessee Titans.
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Has he ever been to the Super Bowl as a head coach?
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No. And either as Mike McDonald,
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well, what's so interesting about this match up between
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these two young coaches? And I think Mike McDonald is
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obviously younger than Mike Raybould.
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Mike McDonald is been the best coach all season long,
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especially when you look at second-half statistics.
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The Seattle Seahawks are one of the best second-half teams in
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the. League in the league.
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And what they've done so very well this year is they had
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Chabonnay and they had Walker. Walker has been in and out this
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season. He hasn't been 100% healthy all
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season. And Chabonnay has been, you
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know, obviously he's out for the playoffs.
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I think it was a torn ACL. What did he.
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Yeah, he's. Going to be missing half a lot
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next year. Yeah, so he tore, I think it was
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a torn ACL. He injured himself at the end of
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the season. When you look at both of these
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teams in Henderson and, and what Henderson has done as a rookie
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this year has been absolutely, you know, successful what they
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thought he was going to be when he came out of the draft.
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Now Henderson, it took him a little while, took him a
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second-half of the season and Stevenson going down to giving
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him a shot and giving him more slicks.
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And, and there were a lot of the guys on the the the New England
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Patriots this year when Henderson wasn't getting the
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ball enough, they sat down with Henderson and gave Henderson a
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little bit more of a lecture and told him your time will come.
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You'll get your slacks and you'll get your opportunity to
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go out there and run the ball well.
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Henderson, it took him a little while but eventually got
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comfortable and played pretty well in the second-half of the
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season. But Romandre Stevenson has been
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the go to guy for the New England Patriots throughout the
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playoffs. He has been their horse.
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He was their horse against the Broncos and and you can see why
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Romandre Stevenson has been so very important to this team and
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why the Patriots decided to extend them a year before.
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The guy has. First of all, he's 230 lbs.
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He runs not only a 4-5, but the guy can run you down.
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He can go east and West. He does so many things right and
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he blocks very, very well. Walker is almost impossible to
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take down. Both guys are very hard to take
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down. Walker is not as big is Romandre
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Stevenson, but he's elusive. He has the ability to move in
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many different ways and different steps.
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He he has the ability to run routes.
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He can do everything. I would believe that Walker and
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I would say that Walker isn't every down back to Romandre
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Stevenson. He's more of a 2 down back, and
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I believe the experience would go to Romandri Stevenson and the
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Patriots. But again, this is a young
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Patriot team and practically every single one of these
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players have not been in the Super Bowl.
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I don't know how many guys on the Patriots have played in the
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Super Bowl, but this is not the old Super Bowl championship
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teams of Bill Belichick and Tom Brady and the Vrabel teams.
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And we could go on and on and on of the players that were on
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those teams. The Edelman's of the world, the
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Gronkowski's, that that is not this New England Patriot team.
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They do have Stefan digs. This is the first time he has
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been in a Super Bowl. He's been in a couple of AFC and
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NFC title games, never got over the hump.
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And he's dating. You know who Mr. Misses Cardi B,
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that after the game, she was dancing and prancing around with
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her. What was it, green hair?
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I mean, it was absolutely pink hair.
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Whatever the hell she had on her, whatever.
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I I mean, I believe that this game is going to come down to
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who's going to be able to run the ball and control the line of
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scrimmage. You know, the Patriots are one
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of the best run stopping teams in the league, in the league.
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So they're going to try to clock up the middle and they're going
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to make guys like Najigba get into places.
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And they have guys like Gonzales that can play one-on-one with
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Najigba. But Najigba, every single week
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we've seen this year against top end corners dominate.
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There were what, maybe two or three weeks he didn't get, he
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didn't score or he didn't land 100 yards or more in those
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games. He has the ability to take over
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games as we saw in the NFC title game.
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I believe that Najigba was the best player on the field besides
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Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold, who threw 340
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yards. And I, I'll say this, when you
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look at the defensive side of the ball, there's a lot to talk
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about with both sides of the ball with both teams where with
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the, the Seattle Seahawks, their secondary, Amanda, Ori and I
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always mess up his name. He's been a great young player
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for them and I I think with what their secondary has done for
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them this year as controlled, the man on man type of defense.
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They play a lot of zone in the games.
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Seattle likes to play the zone game, but they could play man on
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man. They could do a lot of different
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things. They have great safety play and
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they could get at you with their front 7.
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They've got two really competent linebackers and obviously we
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know one in Williams who has played for the Giants and played
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for The Jets and has been successful everywhere.
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He's gone now. When The Jets decided to move on
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from a guy like Williams, they decided to move him and I think,
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I think they traded him to the Giants.
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They did 2019. A2 and A4 that was.
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Very rarely do you see The Jets and the Giants make a trade with
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one another. And they traded Williams and
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Williams became a pretty decent player for the Giants.
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And then obviously the Giants traded him to Seattle.
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And a lot of people were questioning because at the at
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the end of the season, his last season with the Giants, he
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wasn't as good as he was the year before.
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The Giants extended him, gave him a little bit more money and
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the Giants winded up trading him to Seattle.
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And since McDonald has been there, I think Williams has been
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a completely different player. And I remember when he was
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drafted, I remember when The Jets, Jets drafted him from USC
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and this some people thought he was a top three pick.
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Some people thought he was a #1 prospect in the draft.
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But he just didn't accomplish the things that he wanted to
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accomplish with the New York Jets because The Jets had
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Wilkerson and they had all these different defensive lineman.
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I think The Jets stacked up too much on a defensive line when
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Williams games which drafted, but you can't pass up on a
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talent like Williams. And now you're starting to see
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the the fruits of what Williams has turned into a pro ball
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player, an all pro player and a dominant force in the middle of
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the field. And and again, Seattle's
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strength this season has been the ability to do everything
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right. They can stop you on the run.
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There are games that they've had problems stopping the run, but
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they the one weakness that that I believe Seattle's had problems
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with all season long with stopping tight ends.
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And I, I have news for you guys. I don't know who the starting
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tight end is for the Patriots. Oh, it's Josh's boy hunter
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Henry. Yeah, and that's what I'm
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saying. He's an old Hunter Henry.
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He's what? He's the oldest player on the
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team. He's got to be about 3435 years
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old. He's at the tail end of his
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career. You don't see a lot of Hunter
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Henry and you haven't seen a lot of Hunter Henry throughout this
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playoff run. Now they might use Hunter Henry
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a lot because Seattle on paper has had problems stopping tight
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end type of talent speed guys on the outside, but I don't think
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country Henry is going to be that dangerous.
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Guys like Stefon Diggs, guys like Hollins.
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Those are the guys Hollins coming coming back in in the AFC
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title game play dividends for the New England Patriots cuz he
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made a couple of big catches against the Broncos in the snow,
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which eventually sealed the deal for the New England Patriots.
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But it's it's going to be warm. There's not going to be any
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snow. There's not going to be any rain
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on Sunday. So we're, we're going to see
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what Drake May is made of in a big game and we're going to see
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what Sam Donald is made-up in a big game.
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I, I'll tell you this, we saw more out of Sam Donald
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throughout the playoffs than we've seen of Drake May.
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Drake May has not looked like the MVP candidate he was all
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season long. And and that could be because of
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his schedule, the way the schedule was set up for the New
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England Patriots. I've said it.
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The New England Patriots had one of the easiest schedules in the
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NFL. In the NFL.
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Since 1999, they had one of the easiest scheduled and they have
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one of the five easiest, one of the top five easiest schedules
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in NFL history that the the last time a schedule was was this
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easy, I think was the Indianapolis Colts in 99 That
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was the. Jim Harbaugh era.
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That was the Jim Harbaugh area era and all that other stuff.
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But here's the thing. I look at Sam Darnold.
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Sam Darnold obviously being pushed away by the New York
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Jets, being pushed away by the Carolina Panthers by being
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pushed away by the 49ers, then the Minnesota Vikings who
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eventually just fired their GM because of the the fact that
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they should have kept Sam Donald.
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This might have been Minnesota this year if Sam Donald was
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still playing with Justin Jefferson and and that's
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happened. That type of defense, Brian
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Flores has been sensational all season long.
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With all the injuries the Minnesota Vikings had all season
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long, they were a top 10 defense.
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And that says a lot about who Sam Donald is and what Sam
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Donald has accomplished this year as a starting quarterback
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for Seattle and Mike McDonald, coaching him up and then getting
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a chance to see all the all the talent that Sam Dotto brings to
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the table. And and again, I go back and,
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and I could go back and forth with who is going to be better
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in this game and who do I think is going to make make the bright
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play and and the perfect play that might win this game for
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both teams. I don't think this game is going
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to be even close. I really don't when I look at
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this, the way these teams are set up, look at the schedules.
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When you look at the Seattle Seahawks and who they had to
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play all season long, and then you look at the Patriots.
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The Patriots played their best schedule in the playoffs and
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look what they did in the playoffs.
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Who did they dominate against in the playoffs?
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I understand it was bad weather throughout the playoffs, but
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guess what? Sam Donald played in bad
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weather. Sam Darnold played in bad
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weather against the the Rams, the Rams.
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It it wasn't it wasn't great weather the the week before Sam
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Darnold had to play in bad weather.
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I I'm not going to sit here and make excuses on well, this guy,
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this guy had to play in snow every single weekend.
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To me, Drake May has been sensational all season.
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He's a two year player. He's playing in his first Super
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Bowl in his second year. There's a lot of pressure on
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him. Sam Donald's been in the league
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for eight years. Sam Donald has never been here
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before, but Sam Donald has accomplished a lot.
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And and again, when you think about Sam Donald, Sam Donald, a
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lot of people gave up on The Jets, gave up on him.
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Carolina after making the trade, giving up a second and a fourth.
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They gave up on him. And that's, that's why this
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story is, is so incomplete until we find out what's going to
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happen in Super Bowl 60. I know everybody can't wait
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until Bad Bunny and the halftime show.
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I, I'm, I'm not watching that. I, I, I can't wait for this game
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because to me, this is the worst option.
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And over the years, I got a chance to see the Patriots play
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the Giants in a Super Bowl, not once, but twice.
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And who was I voting for? I was, I was voting for the New
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York Giants, even though I couldn't stand the Giants.
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And now I look at this game, I look at Sam Donald, who was a
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Jets draft pick. He was the number three pick in
23:25
the draft of Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen, Josh Rosen, Lamar
23:30
Jackson. When you look at that draft now,
23:33
this could go down as one of the greatest quarterback drafts of
23:36
all time. The first guy out of that draft
23:40
to go to the Super Bowl is Sam Donald, and Sam Donald might be
23:43
the first quarterback out of that draft club.
23:45
When you think about Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, two of these
23:49
this century, what really this era's greats.
23:52
When you look at what Sam Donald has done over the last two
23:56
seasons, I wouldn't say he's accomplished as much as Josh
23:59
Allen and Lamar Jackson, but he's right there with them.
24:02
Think about it. Sam Donald was practically
24:04
thrown to the wolves. Everybody gave up on him and
24:08
then Seattle saw one season with Minnesota, maybe a lucky season.
24:12
Gave him a three-year, $100 million contract.
24:14
Took a chance with Sam Donald and hit a home run, hit a Grand
24:19
Slam because in McDonald and Sam Donald's first year as coach and
24:24
quarterback, they're playing in a Super Bowl.
24:27
And that goes to the same thing with Drake May.
24:29
This is Drake May and Mike Vrabel's first year as coach and
24:33
quarterback, and they're playing in a Super Bowl.
24:36
So when you're talking about a connection, this Super Bowl is
24:40
very highly connected in many different ways.
24:43
Think about it this how many Seattle Seahawks have played for
24:46
the Patriots? How many Patriots have played
24:49
for the Seattle Seahawks? And again, there's a lot of Jets
24:53
in this game, a lot of Giants in this game.
24:57
So when you look at the optional thought of this game, you're
25:01
kind of as a Jet fan or even a Giant fan, you're wondering,
25:05
well, this could have been us. Or Sam Donald could have been
25:08
starting quarterback for the New York Jets.
25:09
And if The Jets didn't give up on Sam Donald as quick as they
25:11
did, maybe Sam Donald takes The Jets into the playoffs for the
25:14
first time in 15 years. Maybe Sam Donald's a guy.
25:17
Maybe Sam Donald is an MVP candidate with the New York
25:20
Jets, or Drake May. How many people were questioning
25:23
Drake May when he came out of North Carolina A.
25:25
Lot more than I would have thought.
25:27
I mean, how many North Carolina quarterbacks were drafted in the
25:30
first round? We remember one of them, Mitch
25:31
Trabinsky, Was he successful as a starting quarterback in the
25:35
league? No.
25:37
So when you look at you these two teams and you can, you can
25:41
contradict a lot of these options that these teams have
25:45
and look at the growth throughout the season.
25:48
Look at what the Patriots have done all season long.
25:51
Say whatever you want. And I say it because I think the
25:53
Patriots had the easiest schedule in the NFL.
25:55
They won 10 games in a row. It's not easy to win 10 games in
25:59
a row in the NFL. It's not you play who's on your
26:02
schedule. It just so happens you had to
26:05
play The Jets twice and Miami twice, which is pretty damn
26:08
easy. But again, when you look at
26:11
these two teams and and again, the talent when we going back
26:15
and forth and understanding where these teams lie and why I
26:19
think that the Seattle Seahawks are just a little bit better or
26:22
maybe could win by 7 to 10 points in this game is because
26:26
one, I think their kicker is better.
26:29
I think we all know their kicker kicker was from the New York
26:32
Jets, and he was very He was an accomplished kicker for the New
26:36
York Jets before Seattle gave him an extension.
26:39
Yeah, they let him go and then they to bring your favorite
26:41
kicker, Greg Zur line. Yeah, don't get me started about
26:43
that. But we have seen these teams and
26:47
if it comes down to kicking, the advantage goes to Seattle.
26:53
This is an ad infinitary and I'm not taking shots at the Patriots
26:56
kicker. The Patriots have a competent
26:58
kicker, but if it goes to field goal to field goal, I'm going to
27:02
trust in Seattle's offense, then the Patriots offense also.
27:08
I don't think the Patriots have a player like Najiba on their
27:12
roster now. Stefan Diggs has been a player
27:15
like that. He has been a great player for
27:17
many, many years. He's not the same player he once
27:19
was. A lot of people gave up on him
27:22
in fantasy. As a matter of fact, if if you
27:26
play fantasy this year, a lot of people dropped him in the 4th
27:28
for 5th week because he wasn't playing good football.
27:31
I picked him up in two of my leagues and he helped me get
27:33
into the playoffs and make a run and win 2 out of the three
27:37
playoff championships that I won in fantasy.
27:41
I I look at both teams and, and you go back and forth and, and
27:44
there's a lot of questions and a lot of a lot of injury reports
27:47
that have come out. Sam Darnell is in healthy Drake
27:49
May They're going to say that I'm in.
27:52
How do you pronounce his name? I'm in Wari.
27:54
I'm in Wari. A guy and I, I mess up his name.
27:57
I. You were 9 out of 10 on the 1st.
27:59
Two, I'm going to call him E man, OK, Because I, the, the
28:02
fact here is these guys, some of these names are just ridiculous,
28:06
But I, I, I believe that there's a reason why these teams are
28:11
matched up. I It would have been maybe the
28:13
Patriots and the Rams, and that would have came back to 2019
28:17
when the Rams played the Patriots, 2018-2019 when the
28:20
Rams play the Patriots and the Rams lost 13 to three against
28:23
the Patriots. When they shouldn't have even
28:24
made. It I think that when you look at
28:26
this game there, when you're trying to compare both teams, I
28:30
don't know if you can compare both teams, but both teams are
28:33
considerably the best teams in their conferences.
28:37
The Seattle Seahawks were the best team in the NFC and the
28:40
Patriots were the second best team in the AFC.
28:42
The AFC was much weaker than the NFC this year.
28:45
And the NFC was surprised by the success story of the Seattle
28:49
Seahawks. And it has a lot to do with Sam
28:51
Donald, has a lot to do with his accomplishments, has a lot to do
28:54
with Mike McDonald, who I think is coach of the year.
28:56
And I think what they have done Seattle, what they have done in
28:59
such a short time after Pete Carroll, Russell Wilson and the
29:03
Legion of Boom are gone now and Marshawn Lynch rebuilding this
29:08
team, I got to give a shout out to Schneider.
29:09
I believe the second or you can argue the best GM in all the
29:12
football, he's been there a significant amount of time.
29:15
I think he's been there over 16 years.
29:17
He's built teams from top to bottom.
29:19
And he made the choice to bring in Sam Donald.
29:22
He was the one that gave Sam Donald that three-year, $100
29:25
million contract. And it's changed the fortunes of
29:28
the Seattle Seahawks. There's no more Russell Wilson
29:30
screaming, asking for his own locker room and, and all that
29:34
crap that we've heard in the past and his own teammates not
29:37
liking him. Everybody likes Sam Donald,
29:39
everybody loves Sam Donald. And Sam Donald is is happy where
29:43
he is. And it it's the first time I can
29:45
honestly say that the Seattle Seahawks are one.
29:49
It's not about one set of the team or the Legion of Boom
29:53
that's going to dominate the game.
29:54
This team is fully talented from top to bottom, from special
29:58
teams, the defense, the offense, and they have a quarterback now.
30:01
This team is as loaded as a as a team going to a Super Bowl than
30:05
any of the teams that have been in a Super Bowl the last five.
30:07
Seasons even on their defense, there's like a levels of it
30:10
that's a little different than even their their Legion of boom
30:12
defenses. The secondary got all the rave
30:13
with the Legion of Boom and obviously Bobby Wagner was great
30:15
too. But you look at the levels of
30:17
the Patriots of the Seahawks defense now you talk about
30:19
Leonard Williams, they also they also have defensive tackle depth
30:22
with Jaron Reid. They brought back it was a Pete
30:24
Carroll draft pick and they brought him back.
30:25
Byron Murphy was a good first round pick for them.
30:27
They have all these edge rushers that are all different types.
30:30
I think you have that and then you have you look at the Steve
30:32
Weiss was talking about when he was on the show too.
30:34
A secondary that is just super versatile when you look at
30:38
Witherspoon is a #1 corner that can play both slot and outside
30:41
at a really high level. And then you got Woolen, who we
30:44
talked about with the blunder last week, but he's a big
30:46
physical guy that I've been curious on the match up with him
30:48
versus Jabba's boy Keyshawn Booty, because they're both big
30:51
body guys. If those two are matched up on
30:53
each other, who can win? Who can win out in there?
30:55
Woolen made the final play of the game that pretty much kept
30:58
them out of. Played really well after that
31:00
and I think it was very helpful for a Seahawks team that was
31:03
looking to get these corners really going in their scheme for
31:06
a while. The first year, last year when
31:08
McDonald came in, it took a little while especially to get
31:11
going in that. Kobe Bryant's another one
31:13
rotated around that's played well.
31:15
Who was soft Gardeners team in Cincinnati.
31:17
It kind of did well in Pete Carroll scheme and then took a
31:19
while with this scheme. Then you got the pass rushers
31:22
too. We were Errol and I were calling
31:23
DeMarcus Lawrence like doomed for the last three years with
31:26
Dallas. He didn't except for the one
31:27
year he didn't really play well. Well, he's played really well in
31:29
that scheme and coming over as a free agent of Chenawosu, 3-4
31:33
hybrid versatile pass rusher on from the Chargers who's played
31:36
well in that scheme. And then those Pete Carroll
31:38
draft picks they drafted later have all played their role of
31:40
getting, I think the second highest pressure rate in the NFL
31:43
this year in. Seattle and been one of the
31:44
better offensive lines in the NFL as well since they added
31:48
Cross and that was the draft. They brought in Cross in the
31:51
first round where the Giants passed up on him.
31:53
They decided to bring in Evan Neil.
31:55
If you remember they had a chance to bring across, they
31:58
chose Evan and then if you look at it, they drafted another
32:02
offensive lineman, a tackle in the third round of them not
32:05
mistake, yes. Abraham Lucas, the right tackle.
32:07
And, and, and it's changed the fortunes because if you remember
32:11
those Seattle Seahawks teams, their offensive line were as bad
32:16
as an offensive line. I think they were like in the
32:18
20s in the NFL for many, many years.
32:21
Even when they won the Super Bowl, I think they were ranked
32:22
like 21st or 22nd in the league. They're one of the top ten
32:27
offensive lines in the league. And they done it in drafting
32:30
players. They really did not go into free
32:32
agency and bring in a lot of free agent free agents.
32:35
They built it around the draft. And that's what you have to do.
32:37
You have to build around the trenches.
32:38
That's what and, and, and that's the one thing I I could say
32:41
about Seattle has done on the defense side of the ball.
32:44
They have used the trade deadline and they've used free
32:48
agency to build that defensive line.
32:50
They really didn't go into the draft as much as they've done in
32:54
the past when they drafted Wagner and all those other guys.
32:57
They did it a different way with McDonald and with a new, with
33:01
this, with the, I guess you could say this new regime.
33:04
So I, I think that what is different about this team more
33:08
than ever is they have a, a quarterback that's not
33:10
backlashing the coach. You're not hearing things that
33:13
are going on in locker room that the defense doesn't like the
33:16
offense. Everybody likes each other.
33:17
They're all dancing around and prancing around.
33:19
And you can tell ownership trust in Schneider, ownership trust
33:24
that Schneider is going to make the right decisions when when it
33:27
comes to this organization and putting these players in the
33:30
right positions to succeed. Yeah, I was going to mention
33:32
too, like you mentioned, the free agency built to defend the
33:35
kind of these like one year Flyers or two year Flyers that
33:37
they took on a lot of these younger players on defense and
33:40
the Patriots kind of did the same thing.
33:41
It's weird to think a lot of times you see in past years in
33:44
the NFL with probably outside of the Chiefs, where you look at
33:46
defenses that have really built homegrown being the better
33:49
defenses. And now you look at these two
33:50
defenses, Seattle building a lot of new guys.
33:52
Ernest Jones, another on the linebacker that was with the
33:54
Rams, bumped around the league too.
33:55
And then on the Patriots, they bring Harold Landry, they bring
33:58
in call to Davis as a free agent, Robert Spillane, who's
34:01
one of the linebackers, it's hurt right now was a Steelers
34:03
Raiders guy. Like they don't have a lot of
34:05
even homegrown guys either. Gonzalez was homegrown and bar
34:07
more. Those are the two big ones that
34:08
are homegrown. But a lot of the Patriots guys
34:10
are not like that either. And same kind of thing with the
34:12
offensive side of the ball outside of booty and and Andre
34:15
Stevenson, like you have a offensive line that's Patch
34:17
worked with Garrett Bradbury and Morgan Moses and all these guys.
34:21
Like outside of Campbell, they don't have a lot of there
34:24
either. And Hunter Henry journeyman
34:25
arson Hooper journeyman at tight end.
34:27
Like it's crazy to think we're in an era now where just because
34:30
of the way free agent works, a lot of times it's just scheme
34:32
adaptable guys at this point, which usually don't see that
34:34
usually takes a year or two to jail if you try to build your
34:38
team in free agency that. Way that's that's the amazing
34:40
thing about this story is both teams have young coaches and I
34:44
I'm Vrabel's not a young coach but he this is his first year
34:47
with the New England Patriots. He was with Tennessee and he has
34:50
experience. McDonald's only been here for a
34:52
couple of years and he's built this from scratch, which Snyder.
34:55
But what makes it amazing is this is the first year he's with
34:59
Sam Donald and this is Vrabel's first year with Drake May and
35:02
how this is such an an amazing thought when you're going to a
35:07
Super Bowl where you have two coaches that have never been in
35:10
this situation before playing against one another with a
35:13
quarterback that they've only had for one season.
35:15
And Raybould has a younger quarterback, a 2223 year old kid
35:19
that has never played in a big game like this.
35:22
He never played in a national championship in North Carolina.
35:25
He's never been in a position where the pressure is on him
35:27
that that to me is going to make champions.
35:29
We saw it with Tom Brady. Tom Brady his first year he went
35:33
to a Super Bowl. Remember that he took over for
35:35
Drew Bledsoe. He took that team all the way to
35:37
the Super Bowl and beat the Rams.
35:39
And he was a young kid and they chose Tom Brady over Drew
35:44
Bledsoe, a guy that they paid $100 million to the year before
35:48
that. And that was because of coach
35:50
Bill Belichick and obviously Robert Kraft saying that we're
35:53
going to let the kid do it. He, he won seven games out of
35:56
the 8 or 9 games that he played. And we're going to ride or die
35:59
with this guy. And he took them all the way to
36:01
the Super Bowl to win. I don't remember what Super Bowl
36:04
it was, but knocking off the great Rams team.
36:07
Now, yes, spy gate was going on and all that other stuff where
36:10
everybody thinks that the Patriots cheated, and they
36:12
probably did. But with a young quarterback
36:15
going into a game with a first year, think about it.
36:17
It was Bill Belichick first year with Tom Brady.
36:22
I mean, if you crossover now, this is Mike Vrabel's first year
36:26
with Drake May think about. I never even thought of that.
36:28
When you think about the past of the accomplished New England
36:32
Patriots teams to now, it is amazing to think that Mike
36:35
Vrabel's first year, he took this team all the way to the
36:37
Super Bowl. Yeah, he played a a third string
36:40
quarterback in the AFC title game and they played the Texans
36:43
and CJ Stroud, who is not I, I would say I do not believe CJ
36:47
Strout in my eyes is a competent playoff quarterback yet.
36:52
And I haven't seen enough of CJ Stroud.
36:54
And maybe we'll see one more year of it.
36:55
And if he fails to be an accomplished quarterback in the
36:58
playoffs, maybe the Texans look other, you know, look other,
37:02
other ends, maybe Davis Mills if they decide to bring him back,
37:05
or maybe they draft another quarterback because you you have
37:09
to buy in to the coach. You have to buy in to the
37:13
quarterback play. And I don't know if the the New
37:15
England Patriots have proven enough of that yet in the
37:18
playoffs. They got a chance to do it
37:19
against a very good Seattle Seahawks team.
37:21
If the Patriots beat Seattle, Drake May is going to have to
37:25
play at an MVP caliber. Because if he don't and he plays
37:29
like he has been throughout the playoffs, fumbling the ball
37:32
mistakes and forcing the ball into places that he feels
37:35
uncomfortable in, I think it's going to be a long, long Sunday
37:39
at Super Bowl 60 in San Francisco.
37:41
Yeah, I think both teams are going to lean on running game
37:43
pretty early as it is. I think especially with both
37:45
quarterbacks dealing with injuries, I don't think they're
37:46
going to want to rush him in and try to force feed everything.
37:48
And Drake, May, we've talked about, it's been kind of
37:50
turnover prone at times. And Seattle, if they're going to
37:52
be able to rush the passer the way they have so far in the
37:54
first two playoff games against a good Rams offensive line and a
37:57
pretty good 49ers offensive line, that's going to be a lot
38:00
of pressure on May and then McDonald's.
38:01
So we've know we've been prone to mistakes at certain points.
38:03
And even with Charbenet out, you saw a good workload with Walker
38:06
in the beginning of that Rams game.
38:08
It took, it took him a little while to get going.
38:10
He got better in the second-half.
38:11
But expect both teams to be able to do that.
38:13
And then like I said before, the secondary receivers are going to
38:15
be the difference in this game. And Jake Buzz, the star,
38:16
obviously. But can the Patriots get
38:18
somebody to break out random? And then can the Seahawks, with
38:20
their number two guys, get any of the guys going like they did
38:23
against the Rams? This is a very fascinating game,
38:26
guys, because Sam Darnold in his entire career has been known as
38:29
a turnover machine and he still turned the ball over, at least
38:32
with interceptions above average in the NFL, although had a great
38:36
year for, you know, wasn't a bad year.
38:38
He just takes chances with the ball and sometimes there's a
38:41
defense he gets confused. The McVeigh got him for four
38:45
interceptions earlier in the season.
38:48
He had some struggles. Obviously, he solved McVeigh in
38:50
the last, and he's really proven in these two playoff games that
38:54
he's right, that he deserves to be exactly where he is right
38:57
now. Empowered to Sam Darnold for
38:58
that. You know, guys like, it's just
39:00
really impressive. Now, Drake May hasn't looked
39:02
great in the playoffs, but they've won because he's made
39:05
winning plays. It's that game manager type of
39:08
player that he has to be. But if he turns the ball over,
39:12
they've got no chance. So you're asking Drake made to
39:15
be perfect. And I don't think Sam Darnold
39:17
needs to be as perfect for Seattle in this game because
39:20
this defense, guys, this defense is crazy.
39:22
Errol, Errol, it's like they swarm and contain.
39:25
I showed a clip of it earlier where Christian McCaffrey had
39:30
nowhere to go that entire game. They had them contained.
39:32
And if you think Drake Mays running out if Christian
39:35
McCaffrey can't, I got news for you that he's not going to have
39:38
those long scrambles. That's what they're going to
39:40
have to stop. They're not going to be able to
39:41
run the ball. Romandre Stevens is not going to
39:43
be able to run the ball like he did against the Broncos in the
39:45
snow. There's no way that he's going
39:47
to be able to do that. They're going to have to use
39:49
more Henderson in this game, East West type type of runs.
39:52
They're going to have to use them in the backfield, a toss in
39:55
the ball, a lot of slants, maybe use them in the as a wide
39:58
receiver, a spread spread the offense out on the line at the
40:01
line of scrimmage and, and, and use these guys as weapons
40:04
because honestly, the patriots don't have a lot of weapons.
40:07
Stefan now Booty, he's he's a good player.
40:12
He's been a an optional player for, for a guy like Drake may
40:16
all season long. He's been a touchdown machine,
40:18
especially in the second-half of the game.
40:21
You know what, what Seattle's going to do, they're going to
40:23
play one-on-one on the secondaries.
40:25
They've got 2 competent great corners.
40:28
They have great safety plays. They're going to use different
40:30
blitz packages. You know, McDonald's comes from
40:32
that Baltimore Ravens style of game.
40:35
They're going to use those kind of plays.
40:37
They're going to try to trick and make Mike Vrabel
40:39
uncomfortable and put Drake May on a comfortable, uncomfortable
40:43
position like the Texans did in that game where they forced how
40:46
many fumbles in that game and thank God they pounced on top of
40:49
it. It might not be so lucky against
40:52
a young, fast Seattle Seahawks team that have been very, very
40:56
good all season long. When they knocked the ball out
40:59
of a running backs hands or a wide receiver's hands, they
41:01
pounce on it. This this is a young, fantastic
41:04
team. And remember the Seattle
41:05
Seahawks when they were at the top of their games with the
41:07
Legion of Boom, They were a young roster.
41:10
That was a young, young team. Legion of Boom.
41:13
We talked about Richard Sherman, we talked about the guys that
41:16
they had over there and the talent that they had over there.
41:19
I I remember it and remember when they won the Super Bowl
41:22
when they completely dominated against that Broncos defense.
41:26
I mean that Broncos offense which was one of the best
41:28
offensive teams in NFL history with Peyton Manning and and that
41:32
talent with if I'm not mistake. Decker, Demarius Thomas.
41:36
Yeah. It was in New York, it was
41:38
before a snowstorm. I remember it, and they
41:40
completely dominated the game. As a matter of fact, the first
41:43
couple of plays of the game was a safety.
41:45
I I'm telling you right now, this game is not going to be
41:48
like that. And I do believe there there's
41:51
going to be offense in this game.
41:52
I could see this game 2724. I, I think they'll be offense in
41:56
this game, but I think you're going to see more offense in the
41:59
second-half. Both coaches have not played
42:02
against one another this year. Seattle has not played against
42:04
the Patriots this year. So they haven't seen enough of
42:07
them. And the Patriots could watch
42:09
film all they want. They haven't been on the field
42:11
with Walker, They haven't been on the field with Najigba, They
42:14
haven't been on the field with Sam Donald and Sam Donald's
42:16
playing the best football of his career.
42:19
The last three games of the playoffs has been absolutely
42:23
dominant. He's dominant his last two
42:25
games, actually, he's been as dominant as any quarterback in
42:28
the league. So he what, 8 touchdowns?
42:30
I think he has in the playoffs so far.
42:32
He has been as good as anybody. So.
42:35
And now you're going into a Super Bowl.
42:36
Yes, he's never been here before, but he understands what
42:39
it takes to win ball games. Drake May doesn't.
42:43
Drake May has never been in a position like this in his whole
42:45
career. Maybe in high school he did, but
42:47
not in his whole career. And yes, he has four other
42:50
brothers or five other brothers that beat him up when he was a
42:53
kid. And you hear all these stories.
42:54
It's not the same thing when you're on the football field
42:57
with £350 defensive lineman trying to take your head off.
43:01
So this game is going to be very, very interesting.
43:04
It's going to come down to, I believe, the running games.
43:07
Who's going to be able to push the lines and what offensive
43:10
line is going to open up holes for the running game to dominate
43:14
the line of scrimmage? I just want to respond to Jeff's
43:16
comments. Seattle's go to play a lot of
43:18
cover six. Yeah, it's interesting because
43:20
Seattle's defenses had a high percentage of zone throughout
43:22
the year, but I forget. I forget if it was Cynthia
43:26
Freeland or one of the other. It was Cynthia.
43:28
Yeah, I think she was saying that Seattle in the playoffs has
43:31
played a higher percentage of man than any other team, so they
43:34
kind of change it up on him. Because of their secondary, they
43:37
have 4 competent secondary players, they have two corners
43:41
that could be ones on any other team and they have one safety
43:44
that has been one of the top five safeties in the league.
43:47
So and, and their other safety is pretty damn good.
43:49
Their strong safety is pretty damn good too.
43:50
So they have they have the capability to shut you down in
43:54
the open field where the only way you're going to beat them is
43:57
using different packages, short passes.
44:00
And I think that's what the Patriots are going to do early
44:02
in the game. Short passes give Drake May a
44:05
little bit more confidence in the open field.
44:07
So he could step into some of the passes and use that running
44:10
game to to his to expose or he'll he'll try to expose that
44:15
front seven of the Seattle Seahawks.
44:17
Curious Drake May running too. I think Fish, you put that in
44:20
with the read off as well. Drake May running was an X
44:22
Factor in that Broncos game because they needed to run now
44:24
again in the snow. It's obviously different
44:26
circumstances, but I'm curious to see if they have designed
44:29
plays with Josh McDaniels, which is kind of out of his void
44:32
normally like what Drake may. I think most of his runs this
44:34
year have been less designed runs except maybe in the red
44:37
zone. So I'm curious to see if Josh
44:38
McDaniels goes to that in the middle of the field to try to
44:41
stretch it out if they know Stevenson's having trouble
44:43
because Seattle's going to. It's tough to run inside on
44:45
Seattle and then Henderson, too, trying to get it going in the
44:48
playoffs as it is. It's tough to do anything
44:51
against Seattle. That's the problem.
44:53
They're they're this isn't on paper, it doesn't seem like a
44:57
fair fight, the Seattle defense. Versus it never does.
45:00
It never does. It doesn't look like a fair
45:03
fight. And I here's what I what I'm
45:05
seeing, I'm seeing really physical secondary guys as
45:09
physical as they've had since the Legion of Boom.
45:12
It I mean Devin Witherspoon is a missile at cornerback.
45:16
He's been an all pro every year he's been in the league.
45:20
Nick, Amanda Wari. He's a blitzing strong safety
45:25
like you used to see back in the day when they had they they
45:28
would just walk him up. He's coming a man of war.
45:31
He's like AI. Remember when the Don't worry
45:33
that with Amanda Wari. I'm sorry, I had to.
45:35
I had to correct. Like man, like man of war, like
45:37
the old like. Maybe I should just call him the
45:39
Man of war. How's that?
45:41
That's look, he he is a man of war standing at that line
45:44
coming. On Amanda Wari.
45:47
Like, I just love safeties that play that way.
45:49
It's great to have like a traditional box safety, but then
45:52
he also plays more coverage than a traditional box safety.
45:55
He's a great piece. Leonard Williams, you already
45:57
talked about him. DeMarcus Lawrence.
45:59
I could have sworn he was done two years ago.
46:02
There was that playoff game between Dallas and Green Bay and
46:05
Green Bay lit them up for like 49 points or something like
46:09
that. And I remember after that game,
46:12
Micah Parsons pointed fingers right at DeMarcus Lawrence and
46:15
basically saying he quit on the team and it was awkward for them
46:19
the whole that next season, they were terrible defensively.
46:22
McCarthy gets fired and then obviously DeMarcus Lawrence
46:25
left. I, I, I don't know.
46:27
Parsons is gone too. Toxic situation.
46:30
I think Lawrence has been great this year.
46:32
I think it's Mike McDonald. I think McDonald has brought
46:35
this team together. Even when they won the
46:37
conference and a lot of people, I said it last week, a lot of
46:41
people didn't like that they were celebrating and jumping for
46:43
joy like they won something just because they won the conference.
46:46
It was an accomplished an accomplishment for a young team
46:50
that has we really been put together in in two years time,
46:54
draft picks and free agency and putting this team and and
46:58
getting them to work together and then bringing Sam Donald in
47:01
to me. It's an amazing story because
47:03
again, when we when we go back to the the Seattle Seahawks when
47:07
they had Russell Wilson there, this guy was a third round draft
47:10
pick who was taken, who was taken in the third round and
47:13
wasn't going to start. They brought in Matt Flynn from
47:16
the the Green Bay Packers and he had one great season taking over
47:20
for Aaron Rodgers because he broke his collarbone, if you
47:22
remember that. And I, I remember it very, very
47:25
well. And Matt Flynn had a sensational
47:27
year and he was a free agent. They gave him an extension that
47:29
people were shaking their heads. And before the preseason was
47:32
over, they gave the the reins to Russell Wilson and, and it took
47:36
him two years, but two years with a young team and a young
47:40
Russell Wilson, it took him all the way to Super Bowl and showed
47:43
you why what Schneider did and why a young team could take that
47:48
next step if you have the right pieces in place.
47:51
And here's the thing, Mike McDonald is not Pete Carroll.
47:54
He's not. But they're both defensive guys.
47:56
And a lot of people say the way he coaches his team is a little
48:02
bit different than Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll was a player
48:04
player's coach. He would do what the players
48:06
needed, wanted him to do as a coach and he would put them in
48:09
the right position. Mike McDonald is more of a drill
48:12
Sergeant. When he's on the football field,
48:14
you can tell he's out there. He's telling these guys to put,
48:17
you know, to play in the right positions.
48:19
He's calling the plays and he's he's putting them in a position
48:22
to succeed. And I think that to me has said
48:25
a lot about Mike McDonald. And, and if you look at the
48:28
Baltimore Ravens ever since Mike McDonald has left, their defense
48:33
is not as accomplished as it was when he was there.
48:36
Think about it. They were one of the top five
48:38
defenses in the league when Mike McDonald was there.
48:41
I think they were even the best defensive line in football in.
48:44
2023 they were #2 in football. Yeah, yeah.
48:46
And it was because of Mike McDonald.
48:47
He leaves and they drop a week. Every single week after that,
48:52
all the way from two years. They got worse, worse, worse.
48:55
Last year, everybody thought they were going to be a top 10
48:58
defense. They went from a top 10 defense
49:01
the year before. They fell all the way out.
49:02
They were one of the worst defenses in the league.
49:05
I think they were ranked 25th or 20. 6th They got better after
49:07
the bye week, but it still wasn't enough.
49:09
You mentioned something earlier about that defense playing a lot
49:11
of cover 6. I always call it 42.
49:13
You got cover 4 principles on one side, cover 2 principles on
49:16
the other side of the field and all I saw that happen because it
49:21
was the cat and mouse game of the two best coaches calling
49:24
plays. I think in the league between
49:26
McVeigh and McDonald last round, McVeigh caught him on that
49:30
touchdown to Karen Williams on a what do you call a running back
49:33
mesh play. Basically all the receivers from
49:35
the left run to the right and then Williams, it's usually
49:39
another receiver coming the other way, but they did with the
49:41
running back, which is dirty. But the reason why that was so
49:45
successful is because I guarantee you This is why
49:48
McVeigh did it, because he knew that they're playing in man,
49:52
which is what they were doing on that play.
49:54
The linebacker would be at the exact same depth as the safety
49:57
and they'd run into each other and they wouldn't and the
49:59
linebacker wouldn't be able to get to Williams.
50:00
Williams was wide open for that exact reason.
50:03
So what, they were going back and forth playing more Cover 6.
50:06
I don't expect as much cover 6 this week, Speedy.
50:10
I would say I think the athletes on the Seattle defense are
50:14
better than the athletes. Yes, Stefan Diggs included on
50:17
the Patriots offense. I expect a lot of man and them
50:20
saying you're not better than me get open.
50:23
I do believe, I do believe Mike Frabel is a smart coach and he
50:27
has a game plan for everything McDonald's going to throw at him
50:30
early in the game. And McDonald's not one of those
50:33
guys that are going to throw you a trick play.
50:35
He's not one of those guys. He does everything by the book
50:38
and that's what makes McDonald a very unique coach because like
50:41
we were talking about guys like Sean Payton or even Sean
50:44
McVeigh. These guys are going to throw
50:46
everything at you that you haven't seen on film.
50:49
He's not one of those guys. He's the guy that plays it by
50:52
the book. He plays the same defense, he
50:55
plays the same offense and he likes to run the ball.
50:58
The old Baltimore Ravenway is run, run, run.
51:01
That is what the that is what the Seattle Seahawks like to do.
51:05
You're going to see a lot of Walker early in this game.
51:07
They're going to try to control the line of scrimmage and what
51:10
they call their behemoths, those big beasts in the middle.
51:13
They're going to use those guys to push the line and see how
51:16
strong and how tough this defense, this front seven of the
51:20
Patriots, who has been in elite defense all season long,
51:23
especially stopping the run, how they can, you know, how they can
51:27
edge up against that defense, which they haven't seen all
51:30
season long. And that's another thing, by the
51:32
way, Stefan Diggs got a lot of attention in his first Super
51:36
Bowl appearance with him listing all the kinds of favorite
51:40
serials and somebody else holding up a poster, a poster
51:45
asking him to rank his favorite Cardi B song.
51:48
So everybody's making jokes about this, Stefan and Stefan
51:53
Diggs. This might be the last time we
51:54
ever see him in a Super Bowl because he's never been here
51:57
before and he's at the tail end of his career.
51:59
He's got what how many kids now? He's had four kids in the same
52:02
year. So I don't know what he's named
52:04
him and now where his money is going, but we know where his
52:06
money is going. I I mean honestly, but the fact
52:10
here is him and Cardi B are dating and I don't know what she
52:13
colored her hair for the Super Bowl, but I think her hair was
52:15
green. I was it green or was it pink?
52:19
I don't know what it was. Pink would fit that substance he
52:21
was taking. Well, they are playing the
52:24
Seattle Seahawks. So maybe, maybe they're wearing,
52:27
maybe she's wearing green because she thinks she's, I
52:30
don't know. But it's a very, I think Stefan
52:33
Diggs is an interesting personality.
52:34
I, I really do, I think he's, he's great for football.
52:37
I, I think him and his brother have been one of those two of
52:41
those guys that wherever they've been.
52:43
And obviously Stefan Diggs, Trayvon Diggs has been with the
52:46
Cowboys. He had a lot to say about the
52:48
Cowboys organization and Dak Prescott over the last couple of
52:51
years. And that's why he's no longer
52:53
with him. I think he played for the
52:54
Broncos. He played with the Packers after
52:55
that and then he they already caught him.
52:57
And they also. Had a lot to say with the Bills
52:59
for the Broncos. Oh yeah, they might have signed
53:00
him for like a week or so, but. I think he was on the.
53:02
Broncos, they were playing. The Patriots, they already got.
53:04
They already caught him, too, again after that.
53:06
And then he also had a lot to say about the Bills
53:07
organization, too, with Josh Allen.
53:09
And then Stefon Diggs is no longer with the Bills because he
53:12
had a lot to say. Then he went to the Texans and
53:13
he had a lot to say about the Texans organization.
53:16
And now he's with the New England Patriots.
53:18
We haven't seen a lot of Stefon Diggs in his attacks to the New
53:22
England Patriots, maybe because Robert Kraft is is a little bit
53:25
more quiet and Mike Frabel likes to control his players.
53:28
But the fact that he's dating Cardi B, the fact that he has
53:32
four kids with four different women in the same year says a
53:36
lot about Stefan Diggs and what he likes to be in in the public
53:40
eye. I, I don't know anything about
53:43
what Cardi B, what his favorite Cardi B song is or what Siri
53:46
likes to eat. I could care less.
53:48
But I think it's good for football.
53:51
I think it's good for the Super Bowl to have Stefan Diggs there
53:53
to show his personality speaking.
53:56
Speaking of personality, Sam Donald got involved in a food
53:59
movement too, being given a foam hat of ham, starting a ham for
54:05
Sam movement that created both hats and shirts.
54:09
Now I seen a lot of different people and I, I, I think it's
54:12
Jimmy Kimmel that's walking around him and his, his producer
54:16
or whatever that guy is that Spanish guy walking around
54:19
interviewing people. He has all these players wearing
54:22
this ham, this ham hat and they've gone around all Super
54:28
Bowl week so far. And I've seen all different
54:30
players. I've seen Smith wear it.
54:32
I've seen high Smith wear it. I've seen all different football
54:36
players wearing it. And maybe, maybe there's Sam and
54:39
I, I, we all remember suck for Sam with the, the New York Jets
54:42
and why The Jets landed Sam Donald.
54:45
Sam Donald should have been the first pick in that draft.
54:47
It was Baker Mayfield and then Saquon Barkley and then Sam
54:50
Donald and, and, and now we're starting to see what Sam Donald
54:53
can do. And, and honestly, Sam Donald's
54:55
a quiet guy. He's a ginger.
54:57
His his, I think his grandfather was a Marlboro Man.
55:00
This is a guy there it is. This is a guy that has been very
55:05
quiet to the media. And the one thing that I could
55:08
say about Sam Donald that he was happy about was when he left the
55:10
New York Jets because of the way the fans treated him at the end.
55:14
But even the fans of the New York Jets have been behind Sam
55:17
Donald. And what Sam Donald has done
55:19
throughout this season is been such an, a great, such a great
55:23
accomplishment. And I was a Jets fan and any
55:25
Jets fans out there not rooting for him, that shame on you.
55:28
He he deserves a lot of credit Speedy for the accomplishments
55:31
he accomplishments he has made all season long.
55:34
Yeah, and it's interesting with this kind of thing like you
55:36
always see Sam Darnold is the reason a lot of Jets fans liked
55:39
him at the time was he was also very humble to The Jets and all
55:41
these outspoken quarterbacks, all these crazy media
55:44
personalities, especially in that Sanchez, Tebow same year
55:46
era. And Darnold was a quiet guy.
55:49
But it's cool to see him get that kind of personality going,
55:51
kind of start a little thing, fun thing with his teammates
55:54
too. And then some of these, like you
55:55
said, other other football players.
55:57
Didn't Darnold like it was a few years ago?
55:59
I think it was with Carolina. He had like 5 rushing touchdowns
56:02
in the first few weeks of the. Season.
56:04
Oh yeah. And and they.
56:06
Were four and one. They were four and one.
56:08
They they came out hot out the gates with Sam Darnold.
56:11
I don't remember the reason it fell apart.
56:13
I think he got banged up and he came back and he wasn't hot
56:15
anymore or something like that. But he's been unstoppable the
56:19
last two seasons. I mean, I mean, he got the
56:22
Minnesota GM fired because he didn't believe in him.
56:25
And he should have because he won 14 games within the previous
56:29
year, as we said on Monday's show.
56:31
But look, the guy's incredible. He he's done every proved
56:35
everyone wrong. He was given up on by multiple
56:38
teams and look at him now. Well, they didn't develop him,
56:41
right? And even when he went to
56:42
Carolina, they had no weapons. They had no wide receivers
56:45
there. Carolina didn't get a wide
56:46
receiver until recently in the draft.
56:49
They never gave him weapons. The Jets never gave him any
56:52
weapons over there. I, I, I mean, honestly, if The
56:55
Jets just held onto him for another 5 or 6 years and drafted
56:58
a Garrett Wilson and added some, you know, secondary players,
57:02
maybe The Jets would have the, the more accomplished, a more
57:07
accomplished team and more credible team offensively, which
57:10
they haven't had. And how they bring in Frank
57:12
Wright. And I, I mean, I wrote a story
57:14
about it and it's very interesting, interesting to
57:16
think that maybe Frank Wright can fix this offense, or maybe
57:19
not because they they have a lot of cleaning up to do.
57:22
But Sam Donald is, is a guy that I believe just needed some time,
57:26
needed some time to develop. I think that it helped him going
57:29
to Kyle, Kyle Shanahan and Kyle Shanahan, giving him a little
57:33
bit of time under his offense. Then going to O'Connell, who
57:37
kind of is running the same kind of offense as Kyle Shanahan.
57:43
And then getting a chance to go to Minnesota and learning under
57:46
one of the, I believe one of the best young offensive
57:49
coordinators in all the football right now who's going to get a
57:52
coaching job after the season, after the playoffs, after the
57:55
Super Bowl, because he's lined up to get the Raiders job.
57:58
So I mean, and, and again, you have a defensive coordinate that
58:02
shouldn't even be there with the Patriots.
58:04
The defensive coordinate that was there in the beginning of
58:05
the season was sick and he's out for the season.
58:09
He takes over and this defense becomes one of the best run
58:11
stopping defenses in the NFL and that goes to the the Seattle
58:16
Seahawks and their offensive coordinator.
58:18
He's been there for what, 2 years with McDonald's?
58:21
Three years with McDonald. He was there before McDonald
58:24
last year with Carroll so. Yeah, so and getting a chance to
58:27
really run his offense, his style of offense and and getting
58:30
the opportunity to do it with Najigba.
58:32
No more of that. You know, the craziness from
58:35
different wide receivers where which they sent over there to
58:38
Pittsburgh and and, and and just an opportunity to open up the
58:42
offensive book. And I think that's the
58:45
difference right now. You have a competent quarterback
58:47
that can throw every single pass, something they had when
58:51
they had Russell Wilson at the early time of his career.
58:54
Russell Wilson after he lost his ability to move inside and out
58:58
of the pocket and he became more of a pocket present quarterback.
59:01
He wasn't the same quarterback. Sam Donald is a pocket present
59:05
quarterback. He can use his legs.
59:07
He's been doing that all season long.
59:09
But his strength is his stepping into the pocket and making the
59:12
throws. We see him, we seen him do it in
59:14
the USC, we've seen him do it when he was with the 49ers and
59:17
we saw it last year with Justin Jefferson in the Minnesota
59:20
Vikings. Just obviously didn't have a
59:22
very good playoff run. They lost in the first round.
59:25
So I he's been as accomplished as any quarterback we've seen
59:29
over the last couple years. Drake May was asked about some
59:32
pregame superstitions from which his wife's famous baked goods
59:37
are his favorite to standing in the same spot during the
59:41
national anthem and then even said offensive tackle will Will
59:46
Campbell will look good in a swimsuit as a swimsuit model.
59:50
I don't know what he he's doing. I don't know what him and and
59:53
will Campbell do on on in their private time or whatever the
59:56
hell they're doing. I don't know.
59:58
I It's pretty unique that Drake May would come out and talk
1:00:01
about Will Campbell, who's what, 300 and something pounds. 12 was
1:00:04
like 6 five or something. And I'm looking at him in a
1:00:06
swimsuit. Errol, you were there.
1:00:08
We were there last year. It it there's a lot of downtime,
1:00:11
a lot of dumb questions and get asked.
1:00:13
We interviewed some guy in a sparkling Chiefs.
1:00:17
Technical, Yeah. You guys who's a Patriots fan?
1:00:19
You guys forced that on me, by the way.
1:00:22
You guys absolutely forced that on me and.
1:00:25
When he has like a Taylor Swift like mega fan type of deal going
1:00:29
on. He's probably wearing a Patriots
1:00:31
nice coat this year. He'll be safe at Cardi B Socks.
1:00:36
I don't know. I mean, he's a very unique
1:00:38
individual. That was no doubt about.
1:00:40
He certainly was. I agree.
1:00:41
I think Darnold being competent and being able to run that
1:00:44
offense and him being great is just a plus because I think
1:00:47
that's a team that's designed to just stop him defensively.
1:00:50
Can the Patriots set the edge against that swarming defense?
1:00:55
And I I just love how they play outside in the, like I said, the
1:00:59
safeties like just coming like knifing in from the edge unless
1:01:02
you have like a great blocking tight end.
1:01:05
And I don't know if Hunter Henry's a great blocking tight.
1:01:07
End. He's old man.
1:01:08
He's old. I I.
1:01:09
Look, I don't really know. I don't have the PFF score up at
1:01:11
that, but you're going to have to be a pretty darn good
1:01:14
blocking tight end. We have one coming on the show
1:01:16
soon. Yes, Howard Cross coming on the
1:01:19
show soon. I will say this, I will say
1:01:21
this, I like Drake May. I like his personality.
1:01:23
I like what he stands for. Anybody that knows the story
1:01:26
behind him, he's the youngest of five boys.
1:01:29
His brothers used to pick on him.
1:01:30
All his brothers play. I think all of them play college
1:01:33
sports, some of them play professional sports.
1:01:35
And he slowly but surely has become an elite quarterback.
1:01:40
Elite quarterback. I didn't think he was going to
1:01:42
be that as quick as he has now. Obviously the schedule bowls
1:01:46
well for him. We'll see what he does next year
1:01:48
with the schedule being a little bit harder.
1:01:50
They won the AFC, so they have to play all the number ones next
1:01:53
year and I think they're matched up against the NFC West.
1:01:55
AFC West and NFC North. North, so I'm interested to see
1:02:01
how he matches up against better competition next year.
1:02:04
But nevertheless, nevertheless, you you have to give him a
1:02:07
little bit of credit for what he has done in such a short time.
1:02:11
And that goes to the coaching. That goes to the the players
1:02:14
believing in him and the offensive lineman, the young
1:02:17
offensive line that the Patriots have with Will Campbell, who has
1:02:20
been sensational all season long.
1:02:22
A lot of people question his arm length and his hands size and
1:02:26
all that other stuff and his footwork.
1:02:28
Well ladies and gentlemen, now you know why the Patriots
1:02:31
drafted him so low and why they have been so good on the run all
1:02:37
season long. Running the ball through
1:02:39
Henderson and running the ball through Remandre Stevenson.
1:02:43
One of the main reasons why is because of him Jackson Smith.
1:02:46
Najigbo said that he would want to dunk on former Ohio State
1:02:51
teammate CJ Strout and said that his Buckeye teammates could
1:02:56
create a 2028 Olympic football team that could win a gold
1:03:01
medal. Well, if anybody doesn't know,
1:03:03
in 2028, they're bringing flag football.
1:03:06
Thank you, Tyree Kill, thank you very much.
1:03:09
As Tyree Kill might be able to obviously compete because he's
1:03:13
always wanted to win an Olympic gold medal and he wanted to do
1:03:17
it in track and field. But we all know that he probably
1:03:19
can't do that, but especially now after doing what he did to
1:03:22
his leg. But Jackson Smith Nejigba is
1:03:26
been such a fun player to watch. I didn't think he was going to
1:03:29
be as good as he was this year, but CJ Strout and him have a
1:03:32
very good relationship. CJ Strout, who's a pretty good
1:03:35
basketball player, as I've I've heard over the over the last
1:03:39
couple of years that CJ Strout was the best basketball player
1:03:42
on that Ohio State Buckeyes team and he played in the NBA All
1:03:47
Star, you know, celebrity game. We've seen CJ Stroud on a couple
1:03:51
of these basketball things. So the three and three
1:03:54
tournaments with ice Cube, he played in that too.
1:03:56
So CJ Stroud is a guy that loves the game of basketball.
1:03:59
And and Jackson's Mr. Jig, the Jigba has been as acrobatic.
1:04:03
I mean, how many times have we seen him dunk over the hashes
1:04:06
for, you know, with the field goal kick?
1:04:08
It's so I I mean, he has been unbelievable all season long.
1:04:12
He's such an acrobatic offensive option.
1:04:15
The guy has like sticky hands. I mean, he catches the ball how
1:04:18
many times with with one hand all season long And he does it
1:04:21
with easy makes it look so damn easy.
1:04:24
And and now, now with the Olympics right around the corner
1:04:27
in 2028, which is I I'd say right around the corner because
1:04:31
that's two years flag football. These NFL players are going to
1:04:34
want to have an opportunity to do that.
1:04:35
Don't be surprised if you see some of these X track and field
1:04:39
players trying to play flag football with the speed that
1:04:43
they have. Maybe we will see one of these,
1:04:46
these 40 or 55 yard dash guys that can run, you know, they can
1:04:51
run it with lightning speed. Maybe we see one of these guys
1:04:53
actually play in an outlast Tyree kill in a, you know, a
1:04:56
race all the way down the field. So I'm interested to see.
1:04:59
I wouldn't be surprised if you see CJ Stroud, Jackson Smith,
1:05:02
Najigba and another Ohio State Buckeye teaming or joining
1:05:06
forces to try to win Olympic gold medal.
1:05:08
Yeah, why not? There's a loaded team already
1:05:10
for Ohio State standards. Then you're dealing with a
1:05:12
competition that looks like going to be as much already as
1:05:14
it is with football around the world.
1:05:16
Even though it's growing, it's just still going to be harder as
1:05:18
it is. That Will Campbell, Drake, Vay
1:05:20
on the other hand, yeah, that's a whole nother story.
1:05:23
JSN would be the world's greatest flag football player of
1:05:26
all time because you can't touch him and you would just get
1:05:30
dusted by him. He, it's like his hands are
1:05:32
great, No one's saying they're not, but he runs.
1:05:36
He gets open on deeper outs better than anyone I've seen in
1:05:38
a very long time. Like he just cut people.
1:05:41
It's like kind of like Odell type.
1:05:43
Stuff. There's a lot of good route.
1:05:44
Runners Young Odell. There's a lot of route, good
1:05:46
route runners in this league now.
1:05:48
I mean, we used to talk about we we used to talk about so many,
1:05:51
so many guys in the past and, and even tight ends.
1:05:55
We have one good tight end coming on with us in just a few
1:05:57
moments. I and he could say there are a
1:06:00
lot of great tight ends in the past.
1:06:02
Gonzalez, remember him? Tony Gonzalez had great hands
1:06:05
and he was a basketball player. He played power forward in
1:06:08
college and could have played in the NBA.
1:06:10
He decided to play in the NFL and look, he's a Hall of Fame
1:06:13
tight end. Gronkowski played basketball and
1:06:16
and decided to play and and start decided to play college
1:06:20
football as well. And then obviously went into to
1:06:23
the NFL as a second round draft pick with the New England
1:06:25
Patriots and was drafted that way.
1:06:27
So I mean the, the great, the great hands that some of these
1:06:31
guys have. And, and these guys, there are
1:06:33
tight ends now that are running 4 fives, 4 fours and they're 6
1:06:37
foot 66 foot five. You have offensive lineman
1:06:41
running 4 sevens in, you know, in, in, in, in the 40s.
1:06:46
You have defensive lineman, which we defensive lineman that
1:06:49
ran out four, six I think it was, or 45I mean, these guys,
1:06:53
you guys are not human anymore. They're athletically gifted and
1:06:57
it's amazing with the talent that some of these guys have.
1:07:00
It is pretty damn amazing. So very interesting story.
1:07:04
Anyways, ladies and gentlemen, our deuce of the day.
1:07:07
The deuce of the day you log. Not a log.
1:07:11
I don't have a log but. Ladies and gentlemen, you're
1:07:21
waiting for me to speak about hockey, and we do talk about
1:07:23
hockey on the show. This isn't WFN, this isn't ESPN.
1:07:26
This isn't Stephen A Smith or Craig Carton saying nobody gives
1:07:30
a crap about hockey. Well, ladies and gentlemen, big
1:07:33
story. If you're a Ranger fan, maybe
1:07:35
you have your pom poms waving up in the air.
1:07:38
Gavin McKenna was arrested this past week and the story coming
1:07:43
out at Penn State, he's been partying a lot, ladies and
1:07:47
gentlemen. And Gavin McKenna was a lot of
1:07:50
people believe was the predominant #1 pick of this
1:07:53
year's NHL draft and and after the World World Hockey
1:07:58
Championships didn't play very well for Team Canada, some
1:08:01
people believe he's fallen 4 spots, 4 spots, ladies and
1:08:06
gentlemen. And now some people believe
1:08:09
after being arrested like this, he could fall maybe even 5 or 6
1:08:13
spots. And what does that spell for the
1:08:15
New York Rangers? Maybe and, and the Rangers have
1:08:18
three first round draft picks. They could still get the
1:08:20
defenseman they want and move up and get Gavin McKenna.
1:08:24
What a drift that would be. But ladies and gentlemen, that's
1:08:27
not going to happen because you have AGM as dumb, as stupid as
1:08:31
Chris Drury. And as long as Chris Drury is
1:08:34
there, there is no way they're drafting Gavin McKenna or
1:08:38
anybody good. So good luck to the New York
1:08:40
Rangers as Rangers or Ranger fans are raving, waving and
1:08:44
raving about Gavin McKenna falling in the draft and waving
1:08:48
their pop pops high where they can land not one but two
1:08:51
superstars in this year's draft. It's not going to happen because
1:08:55
Chris Drury is a complete moron. And that, ladies and gentlemen,
1:09:00
is my deuce of the day. When we come back, ladies and
1:09:05
gentlemen, we will be talking to former New York Giants tight end
1:09:09
Howard Cross. But now our sports minute with
1:09:12
the fish this. Is the Jabba and the Mouth
1:09:17
Sports minute? All right guys, Aaron Fishman
1:09:21
here with your sportsman and got a couple of stories before we
1:09:24
get into the scores this evening.
1:09:25
The Detroit Tigers made a big splash in free agency Wednesday,
1:09:29
agreeing to a three-year, $115 million deal with former Astros
1:09:34
All Star pitcher for Amber Valdez.
1:09:35
Valdez, who's 32 years old, becomes the lefty compliment to
1:09:39
back-to-back AL Cy Young winning pitcher Tarek Schuble.
1:09:42
Who? Earlier today won his
1:09:44
arbitration hearing against the Tigers and was awarded $32
1:09:47
million, the largest in Animal Beast history.
1:09:51
Detroit only offered 19,000,000 and took a huge loss, possibly
1:09:56
alienating their young star as he potentially heads into free
1:09:59
agency after the season. For the 2026 season at least,
1:10:02
Valdez should be a welcome addition as he's tied for first
1:10:05
and wins and in first and ground ball rate while having the sixth
1:10:09
highest pitcher WAR in the league since becoming a starter
1:10:12
in 2020. The Tigers, who made the
1:10:14
playoffs last season as a wild card after a September swoon LED
1:10:17
them to lose the division crown in the last week of the season.
1:10:20
The Guardians. The Tigers take a big step
1:10:22
forward from possibly rectifying their fishing issues behind
1:10:26
school with Valdez as they had an extremely strong season with
1:10:30
a roster that outside of school and All Star outfielder Riley
1:10:33
Green Black true star power. Meanwhile, the Yankees have done
1:10:37
almost nothing besides re sign Cody Bellinger and let the Mets
1:10:40
take the entire back end of the bullpen off their hands.
1:10:43
I get it, getting Garrett Cole back is like adding a great
1:10:46
player. It just seems like every
1:10:48
contender anted up and got better while the Yankees stood
1:10:51
packed. If you disagree, go read Errol's
1:10:53
great article Taking Your Side on worldwidesportsradio.com.
1:10:58
LeBron James, the NBA's all time points leader, has played
1:11:02
basketball so long he has gotten the chance to play alongside his
1:11:05
oldest son, Bronie James, for the past two seasons.
1:11:08
Although Bronie has spent most of that time either in the G
1:11:10
League or on the bench, Lebron's clock is ticking and the odds of
1:11:13
him playing with his second son are being hearing more unlikely
1:11:17
with the news out of University of Arizona.
1:11:19
The Wildcats, owner of the number one rank in college
1:11:22
basketball with an undefeated 22 and O record announced on
1:11:25
Tuesday that they will be redshirting freshman Bryce James
1:11:29
for the rest of the season. Bryce who is a six foot 5 guard,
1:11:32
hasn't been needed this year as the Wildcats have dominated
1:11:35
college basketball led by 5 star freshman sensations Brayden
1:11:38
Buries, KOA Pete as well as veteran guard Jaden Bradley.
1:11:42
And they have a 5 starters all in double figures incredibly
1:11:46
deep squad poised to make a national championship run.
1:11:49
The red shirting decision was just a long play to give Bryce
1:11:51
the most options in his career as his career unfolds on a coach
1:11:55
Tommy Lloyd told the Big 12 Network.
1:11:57
I have a real strong belief that Bryce will be a contributor at
1:12:00
Arizona in the near future. He's really shown a lot of
1:12:03
progress, not only learning our system but just physically
1:12:06
maturing. As we've seen with Broni.
1:12:08
It's unlikely that Bryce will be the second coming of LeBron, but
1:12:11
this decision by Arizona is probably for the best as long as
1:12:14
Bryce indeed does continue with the program.
1:12:17
There is only one LeBron. And like him or not, we are
1:12:20
nearing the end of his historic storied career with only echoes
1:12:23
of his greatness following in his footsteps like Michael
1:12:26
Jordan and his sons before him as well.
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1:14:39
Giants tight end Howard Cross. Howard, what's up, buddy?
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How we doing tonight? We're good, man.
1:14:46
And you know what, it's so crazy because my father, my father
1:14:48
passed away. My father's first name was
1:14:50
Howard. So I like the name.
1:14:52
I Could I call you Howie? Could I call you that?
1:14:54
No. All right.
1:14:57
I was just trying. I was trying to see if we had
1:14:59
some kind of connection there, but obviously we don't.
1:15:04
Howard. Obviously, the New York Giants
1:15:07
made some interesting moves this offseason and one of them was
1:15:12
bringing in while firing, firing Brian Dabel in the middle of the
1:15:17
season, giving Kafka the opportunity to earn the coaching
1:15:21
job. He failed to do that and we knew
1:15:24
that the Giants were not and Joe Shane was not going to bring in
1:15:27
Kafka. No way the Giant fans would be
1:15:30
happy with that. So what did they do?
1:15:32
Well, John Harbaugh, obviously, while they said he stepped down
1:15:38
or they decided to part ways them in the Baltimore Ravens,
1:15:41
John Harbaugh was available. There were a couple of coaches
1:15:44
that they were interested in, but they landed arguably the
1:15:48
best coach in free agency. What were your thoughts when
1:15:51
they landed John Harbaugh? Do you think he's the right guy
1:15:53
for the job? Well, he definitely, you know,
1:15:55
speaks to the right game and in a very winning tradition as a
1:15:59
great history being with the Ravens.
1:16:02
I think they've, the way they built their teams, the way they
1:16:05
played that the type of football they played was always exciting,
1:16:08
very tough, very physical. Their defenses were always top
1:16:11
notch. As the year went on, they
1:16:14
depended on Lamar a lot, but they just didn't have enough
1:16:18
weapons around them and in the receiving corps, I think to make
1:16:21
them get over that edge. But for the most part, very good
1:16:24
team, very well coached team. They played hard every game.
1:16:28
So the power structure that we see with with Joe Shane still
1:16:32
getting GM reigns, they have to report to ownership is something
1:16:34
that Errol and I were kind of questioning.
1:16:36
Very jet light. Yeah, with other organizations
1:16:38
that have had to do that in the past, now we're seeing actually,
1:16:40
we're actually seeing the Ravens now do it too, or I think their
1:16:43
new coach in Jesse Minter asked to do that same kind of thing
1:16:46
with the Ravens. You think that's something that
1:16:48
is a kind of a flawed structure or can you see that kind of
1:16:51
thing working with with John Mara and Joe Shane?
1:16:54
I think you know it, it's probably, you know, Chris Mara
1:16:58
is one of those guys that could have been a GM somewhere in the
1:17:00
league, has been very closely working with the GM's in the
1:17:03
past and, and he's, you know, one of the owners as well.
1:17:06
John's the legendary owner always on all the competition
1:17:09
committees got, you know, got, you know, bless him and
1:17:12
hopefully, you know, continue, continue to help as he as he
1:17:15
goes through his his moment. But I think just being able to
1:17:19
report directly to the to the owner when the owner is kind of
1:17:23
in football a little bit kind of part of those decisions behind
1:17:27
the curtains when it comes down to being in the in the draft
1:17:30
rooms and, and who we're selecting and why we're
1:17:32
selecting and, and people that are on the ground.
1:17:34
You got even Timmy McDonald is one of the one of the family
1:17:38
members that is part of that part of that crew as well.
1:17:40
So it's not so much that they're going above or around Joe Shane.
1:17:44
That is going right to the to, you know, to the root.
1:17:47
We are talking to former New York Giants tight end Howard
1:17:50
Cross, played for the Giants from 1989 to 2001, one Super
1:17:54
Bowl 25. You know, Jackson Dart has had a
1:17:57
sensational year. He's a young quarterback, had
1:18:00
the opportunity to take over I think in Week 4 and slowly but
1:18:05
surely became a pretty good quarterback.
1:18:08
When you have now a new offensive coordinator and a new
1:18:12
coach, how do you think this will work?
1:18:14
How does how do you think John Harbaugh will completely change
1:18:19
his thoughts as a quarterback on what we seen under Brian Dabel?
1:18:23
I think you guys, you look at it from that standpoint of no, no
1:18:27
Malik neighbors. That's that's what you look at
1:18:29
it from. You have have a guy that is is
1:18:31
on the field that demands tremendous amount of attention
1:18:36
that can play and he goes down and Jackson dart basically comes
1:18:38
in right almost at the same time.
1:18:40
So he's playing without his number one receiver.
1:18:43
Robinson became a a pretty great, pretty good talent.
1:18:46
The tight ends try to hold up and stay in there for him.
1:18:49
But he he didn't have a guy that that dominated the field where
1:18:52
people were like scared of the entire time and that's why he
1:18:55
saw Jackson running a lot. How does he look next year?
1:18:59
Hopefully neighbors comes back healthy.
1:19:01
Hopefully they they find another guy in the draft that can stand
1:19:04
on the other side of the field as neighbors and you know, the
1:19:06
tight ends pick it up a little bit more and, and the running
1:19:09
game picks it up. And then you, you have a
1:19:11
quarterback that's talented with his legs to make good decisions
1:19:13
with the ball. You got to find a couple offers
1:19:16
for line because some of those guys are free agents.
1:19:18
They may not be back next year. So there are a lot of holes in
1:19:21
the offense that they're going to have to plug and, and fix.
1:19:24
But you know, As for a quarterback, they, I think they
1:19:26
may have got their guy. $11 million they have to spend in
1:19:29
the offseason unless they move Dexter Lawrence.
1:19:31
There were a lot of thoughts that maybe this offseason that's
1:19:34
what they're going to try to do. They there was a couple of
1:19:36
things going on this year with Dexter Lawrence and somebody in,
1:19:43
you know, when it comes to the Giants analyst, I'm not going to
1:19:45
mention a name. You know what I'm talking about
1:19:47
back and forth banter between Dexter Lawrence and somebody.
1:19:51
He gave his take on the way Dexter Lawrence was playing and
1:19:54
Dexter Lawrence obviously was hurt this year.
1:19:56
He's making a lot of money. Do you see the Giants maybe
1:20:00
trying to trade him in the offseason or do they decide
1:20:03
maybe to keep him and and run it back this year with a new?
1:20:06
New regime, new defensive coordinator.
1:20:08
A lot of factors that go in that, you know, I think Dexter,
1:20:12
whatever was was tricep or elbow, I don't think it ever
1:20:15
healed. I think, you know, if you needed
1:20:17
surgery the year before, he probably should have gotten it.
1:20:20
I think he tried to rehab it and then come and play with it.
1:20:23
I was at training camp a few times or or probably a lot more
1:20:27
times than I think and never saw him like really participate
1:20:31
full, full go at at at practice because and they're trying to
1:20:36
protect his his elbow, make sure he was or whatever injury it was
1:20:39
upper body and to make sure he was ready to go for the season.
1:20:42
I don't think he can. You can play yourself into shape
1:20:45
during the season. Dexter was a guy that was
1:20:48
historically and notoriously playing 75% of the reps He went
1:20:53
from 75% of the reps, so maybe 45% of the reps And and even
1:20:58
then he didn't feel that he didn't look like he was as
1:21:00
effective. So moving him, you know, other
1:21:03
teams are going to be looking at that, you know, his production,
1:21:06
his time on the field, all these different things went down.
1:21:08
He's going to have to pass a physical.
1:21:11
So if you're moving them, what are you going to move them for?
1:21:13
Who's I'm sure they'll still be teams that really want him.
1:21:16
And if he does go somewhere and he goes, he gets healthy, he
1:21:19
could be that guy that's the double digit stat guy from the
1:21:21
interior line. That'll be something that would
1:21:23
be horrible to see if he goes somewhere else.
1:21:25
But for him, it's going to be it's going to be 1.
1:21:29
Is he want to, you know, show everybody that he is the same
1:21:32
guy that he was a couple years ago?
1:21:34
Or is he going to, you know, come back and want more money
1:21:38
and hey, you know, I'm healthier now.
1:21:40
You're going to see kind of guy. It's more of a proven moment for
1:21:43
for Dexter than it is for the Giants.
1:21:45
So whoever his his representation is, they got to
1:21:49
find out or get him somewhere to get him as healthy as possible
1:21:51
and get him ready to go. I will say this, I did say Ernie
1:21:54
Banks and Ernie Banks was a great running back.
1:21:56
If I'm not mistaken, I went from Carl Banks.
1:21:58
Ernie Banks saw, I remember because I watched the Ernie
1:22:01
Banks story a couple of days ago on a documentary on YouTube.
1:22:05
So I kind of crossed names. I want to apologize to Carl
1:22:09
because we're we're working on getting Carl in the shell.
1:22:11
So my apologies. Go ahead, Speedy.
1:22:14
Yeah, I want to go back to what I was saying about the the cap
1:22:16
situation there in $11 million. If it's not Dexter Lawrence,
1:22:19
like who do you think could be the biggest casualties with?
1:22:21
Could it be Thibodeau maybe gets traded?
1:22:22
Could it be one of those secondary pieces?
1:22:24
They paid a lot in the offseason, maybe with a new
1:22:26
defensive coordinator. Do they move one of them or do
1:22:28
you think they go to a different direction?
1:22:29
I know you think about the cap in that aspect.
1:22:31
I think of it in the aspect of you need, you need probably need
1:22:34
2 receivers, right? You're going to need a guy
1:22:36
that's going to stand on the opposite side of neighbors.
1:22:37
You're going to need that guy that was probably going to be
1:22:40
the slot guy because Robinson is probably going to demand a lot
1:22:43
of money and you're going to need a tackle because maybe
1:22:46
Jermaine Luminor may not be back.
1:22:48
You know, his contracts up played really well for the team
1:22:51
last year or even through getting banged up, played really
1:22:54
well. If he's gone and maybe one of
1:22:57
the offensive interior offensive lineman may could be gone, then
1:23:01
you got questions. You know, you're talking about
1:23:03
how you going to get money for the cap and who you going to let
1:23:07
go. Thibodeau didn't finish the
1:23:08
season, right? He they put him on IR.
1:23:12
They put him on IR to protect him.
1:23:13
So if they want to move him, they put him on IR because there
1:23:16
wasn't a lot left to play for. They just want to protect him
1:23:19
that way. Either way, you know he wasn't
1:23:21
in in the game. Dexter was playing, Thibodeau
1:23:25
wasn't. That's the decision made.
1:23:27
That's above my pay grade. I don't ask those questions.
1:23:32
So so you got that problem when you guys talk about the
1:23:34
secondary guys, you have two guys that were decent that were
1:23:38
that came in and the Debo and and and and was the other
1:23:43
Holland. Both guys played effectively but
1:23:47
got banged up in the season at the same time.
1:23:50
And still, you know, they were less effective as as a year
1:23:54
after they came back. So that's partially because
1:23:57
they're, you know, the injury, they're trying to protect
1:24:00
themselves probably a little bit because they want to have a
1:24:02
longer career. They need to know if they're
1:24:04
going to need surgery in the offseason versus can I just rest
1:24:08
and rehab it. So you, you got to decide what
1:24:10
the money there or what you're going to do with that.
1:24:12
How do you save money in the cap?
1:24:14
If you get, if you let Dexter go, that's a big, you know,
1:24:17
that's a big budget to the cap, more money to the cap.
1:24:20
If you let Thibodeau go before you have to give him that big
1:24:23
payday, that's not as much towards the cap.
1:24:27
It's just you let him go before you give him the big payday.
1:24:29
Cam Scataboo got injured in the middle of the season.
1:24:32
A lot of Giant fans were loving him.
1:24:34
They were trying to compare him to Saquon Barkley.
1:24:36
Let's let's be honest, he's not Saquon Barkley, but he's he's a
1:24:39
fun player to root for. He's a headbanger.
1:24:42
That's the type of player that he is.
1:24:44
I usually those guys don't last too long in the NFL.
1:24:47
Do you think Cam Scataboo is going to be ready for the season
1:24:51
and is he going to be the same elusive player he was early this
1:24:54
season with the New York Giants? I think he will.
1:24:56
I think, you know, terrible dislocation, watching it happen
1:25:00
and everything. It felt bad for him.
1:25:02
But watch him walk right around in a little scooter thing for a
1:25:05
little bit and then right after that you see him walking and
1:25:07
jumping on the sidelines. In the last two games.
1:25:10
He's out of the scooter. He's out, out of the boot.
1:25:13
He's already, you know, pretty far along in his rehab.
1:25:15
So yeah, I think what a full, full rehab session this
1:25:19
offseason. I think he comes back.
1:25:21
He's the same guy and I think that you know, he'll be even
1:25:24
better probably because he'll be a little hungrier knowing that
1:25:27
he had a little success, had to wait a little bit to get in the
1:25:30
game and when he got in, people were excited about him.
1:25:33
He's a high energy guy. He runs really hard.
1:25:36
Injury that he had wasn't kind of based on how he ran.
1:25:38
It's just a freak thing. The way he landed.
1:25:41
He's going to come back in, he's going to be more excited.
1:25:43
He's going to be more the same because he's going to prove
1:25:46
himself and he's just and especially with the idea that
1:25:49
they could draft the back or, or is he another back coming in and
1:25:53
he he's you know, I, I got injured like I he's still got
1:25:57
proof. So he wasn't the first pick and
1:25:59
and his it wasn't the first round pick.
1:26:01
He wasn't a second round pick. He was a little later in the
1:26:03
draft. So there's always, you know,
1:26:05
room for improvement and he's going to want to improve himself
1:26:09
greatly to make sure he solidifies his position as a
1:26:11
running back for the team. You were speaking about the
1:26:13
draft and the Giants are drafting at #5 this year.
1:26:16
Now there's a lot of positions they need to fill in.
1:26:19
Maybe an offensive lineman, maybe a wide receiver fever to
1:26:23
add on the other side of the field to your your other beast
1:26:27
of a man who is coming out of an injury.
1:26:29
Tate's the guy that everybody keeps talking about.
1:26:33
Do you think Tate would fit this kind of offense?
1:26:35
Do you think that he's an option for the New York Giants at #5?
1:26:38
He could be, you know, I think he's explosive player.
1:26:42
I think when you think about guys you want guys that that
1:26:45
make plays like all over the field.
1:26:47
He's a guy that can go get the ball down the field deep.
1:26:49
He can, he runs great routes inside Tate.
1:26:52
He can do a lot and you want a guy like that, but is that too
1:26:56
high to draft him? You know that That's the
1:26:58
question that I'd have. I'm like, is he, is he a player
1:27:02
that is he going to come out and going to be the the 5th best
1:27:04
player in the draft? You know, there may be a couple
1:27:08
guys taking, you know, one and two that you know, number one,
1:27:11
of course, Mendoza's going to go #2 no one knows who's that's
1:27:14
going to be, whether it's going to be the kid from Oregon or, or
1:27:17
somebody else, or it could it be one that one, the one the edge
1:27:20
rushers or the lineman from Utah.
1:27:22
So you know, if one of those guys, if the guys start to fall
1:27:26
because you're starting to draft for need in the first 3 or 4
1:27:28
picks, then you might have an option for, for, you know, a
1:27:32
bigger, bigger rank, a higher ranked player.
1:27:35
It depends on how high they have tight ranked.
1:27:38
I want to shift gears a little bit.
1:27:39
You played with a coach that got a got snubbed out of the Hall of
1:27:42
Fame last week and Bill Belichick not being a first
1:27:45
ballot Hall of Famer, arguably the greatest coach ever
1:27:46
obviously was your defensive coach when they you guys won the
1:27:49
Super Bowl. What what was your thoughts of
1:27:51
that? What was your reaction to all
1:27:52
that with the Hall of Fame winners kind of holding him
1:27:54
back? It's a little bit of hypocrisy
1:27:58
and idiot. See, if you're judging guys, you
1:28:00
judge guys by what they did on the field.
1:28:03
If they didn't do anything to really like, you know, the other
1:28:06
thing that I would say that if they're going to go at him,
1:28:08
they're going to go at him like the flake gate or something like
1:28:10
that. I think that would be the thing
1:28:12
they're they're trying to hold over his head.
1:28:15
That could be the only way they could they could use, you know,
1:28:17
something against him. But outside of that, one of the
1:28:20
greatest, if not the greatest professional head coach that
1:28:24
ever lived. Not, you know, not that take
1:28:26
anything away from the landries of the world or the Shulas of
1:28:29
the world, but literally one of the best minds, you know,
1:28:33
motivators, schemers, everything that that ever had anything to
1:28:38
do with with NFL football coach. Some of the greatest when you
1:28:42
think about guys that are, how would I say this huge
1:28:45
personalities coaching on Lawrence Taylor and and being
1:28:49
able to be around him and and then have him on point game in
1:28:53
game out. Harry Carson.
1:28:56
You're coaching that guy who's like, you know, he's a beast and
1:28:59
and then people are looking at him like almost like he's a
1:29:01
coach on the field. Being able to come in and be a
1:29:04
head coach when you were like a special teams guy a year or two
1:29:08
before and and demand these guys attention and go win in the
1:29:12
Super Bowl against the Broncos. Like those are things that
1:29:15
people don't really understand and can see.
1:29:17
Like he did a whole lot in the beginning as a defensive
1:29:20
coordinator with the Giants even before he got to New England and
1:29:23
and got and don't take us throw away lucked into Tom Brady
1:29:27
because Brady maybe never would have seen the fields or just
1:29:29
didn't knock him out, knock their quarterback out of the
1:29:31
game. Thank you.
1:29:32
So thank you. I'm a Jet fan, so thank you.
1:29:35
Making me sick even more. Thank you.
1:29:38
Howard, Howard. It was funny.
1:29:39
I've only been in one Jets game in a lot in my life and it was
1:29:41
20, 15. They actually did a pregame
1:29:43
ceremony ottering MO Lewis. Oh man, I'm bored, MO.
1:29:48
Be quiet, speedy. I love MO, too.
1:29:50
I also love when he knocked out Drew Bledsoe and almost
1:29:53
punctured his lung. And then we see Tom Brady, Mr.
1:29:56
Pretty Boy, get on the football field and make me sick to my
1:29:58
stomach. It really does.
1:30:00
We are talking to former New York Giants Titan Howard Cross,
1:30:03
played from 1989 to 2001, one Super Bowl 25.
1:30:08
Howard, there's another coach and we met him a couple of
1:30:12
times, Tom Coughlin. A lot of people don't give this
1:30:15
guy enough respect. The Giants didn't, that's for
1:30:17
sure. And I remember when the Giants
1:30:20
parted ways with him, when he for Ben McAdoo, by the way, and
1:30:24
he asked the Giants that year, give me some defensive lineman
1:30:28
and I'll win you another Super Bowl.
1:30:29
No, they didn't do that. They eventually parted Wazer,
1:30:32
Tom Coughlin hired Ben McAdoo and what did they do?
1:30:35
They gave him defensive lineman. Ben McAdoo had one good season.
1:30:39
The Giants went to the playoffs. Oh, and I remember that
1:30:42
wonderful Odell Beckham hang out with Justin Bieber, which
1:30:45
everybody remembers the Giants did before the playoffs.
1:30:48
And a lot of people thought, hey, Ben McAdoo, if you knew how
1:30:50
to control his team, you know, Tom Coughlin wouldn't have
1:30:53
allowed that. If Tom Coughlin was there.
1:30:55
What were your thoughts to the New York Giants when they
1:30:58
decided to part ways with Tom Coffin?
1:30:59
Do you think they did him dirty? I'm not doing him dirty.
1:31:03
I just think that, you know, when, when, what whoever's
1:31:06
making the decision with coaches and and GMSGMS, today's GM's,
1:31:13
they, they don't live on success.
1:31:15
They don't, they don't understand how to live on
1:31:17
success. And some teams do, like
1:31:19
Pittsburgh is a team that keeps one coach for decades, you know,
1:31:23
but those coaches have great success.
1:31:25
They always are winning games or have winning seasons and and
1:31:28
they go into the playoffs. Coughlin misses the playoffs a
1:31:32
couple times and all of a sudden he's a bad coach.
1:31:35
The guy won two Super Bowls within, you know, 5 or 6 years
1:31:39
of each other. You want to keep that guy in the
1:31:41
house as long as you possibly can.
1:31:43
When you make a decision to go for from him to somebody else,
1:31:47
you go to Mackinac. It's not that the guy was a bad
1:31:51
coach that you went to. The problem is that the guy that
1:31:53
you left was is basically going to be a Hall of Fame coach.
1:31:57
So you're you're replacing with a guy who's never been a head
1:31:59
coach and you're expecting the guy who's never been a head
1:32:01
coach to come in demand the same kind of respect.
1:32:05
Well, maybe Thomas too hard on the players.
1:32:07
Now you're talking about what? How can we get player?
1:32:09
How can we get the players more discipline?
1:32:11
I think it's kind of funny that you know, it go I watch a lot of
1:32:14
teams do it. There are a lot of coaches that
1:32:15
are 1 and done like why'd you hire him if he's one and done?
1:32:19
Like coaching is a very, you know, a thankless job.
1:32:23
If you look at it, they're they're right above referee
1:32:25
unless, unless they're winning playoff games like you can, you
1:32:29
can be in and out in a second. Eli Manning has been up for a
1:32:33
Hall of Fame not once, but two years has missed out.
1:32:36
He's going to miss out this year.
1:32:38
It doesn't look like he's on the ballot.
1:32:40
Well, he's on the ballot, but he's it doesn't look like he's
1:32:42
going to be voted in your thoughts to Eli Manning's
1:32:45
career, do you think he's a first ballot Hall of Famer and
1:32:47
why? I think it's kind of funny when
1:32:51
people people, they dislike certain players, they dislike
1:32:55
Eli. Eli when he retired was a top 10
1:32:57
passer, right? He may have been even higher
1:32:59
than that. He may have been in the.
1:33:01
Top five? He's top five, actually.
1:33:03
Yeah, yeah, top five, all right. Two time Super Bowl MVP, two
1:33:08
times, not only the Super Bowl MVP, but beats the greatest
1:33:11
player that that the NFL will save was like when it comes down
1:33:15
the Super Bowls. And Tom Brady, he beats the GOAT
1:33:17
twice, outplays him twice. And now when it's it's time up,
1:33:23
people like, well, he he threw too many interceptions.
1:33:25
Well, if you don't have a great offensive line, you got to throw
1:33:28
some interceptions. But when it was time to win, he
1:33:31
won. Should he be a Hall of Famer?
1:33:34
Yes, Should have been the first ballot Hall of Famer.
1:33:36
Yes, those numbers, 2 Super Bowl MVPS you like, you're going to
1:33:41
let guys in for a lot less just because you don't like him.
1:33:44
They all shucks. And it's Eli, always Payton's
1:33:47
brother, always Archie's son. He wouldn't get that kind of
1:33:50
recognition. Any any any quarterback is a two
1:33:53
time MVP beating the greatest player to ever play, taking his
1:33:57
team to the playoffs even though he has some bad seasons.
1:33:59
But when he had a chance to have a good season, he did it and he
1:34:02
literally walked the team in and carried him a couple times into
1:34:05
the playoffs. The road Warriors, you would say
1:34:08
he he's done it. He proved it.
1:34:10
They proved it in the biggest spots.
1:34:12
You have other quarterbacks in in in the Hall of Fame that
1:34:16
don't have any Super Bowl wins. So I'm just saying that the guy
1:34:20
was like one of the top passers in in history two time Super
1:34:24
Bowl MVP. Yes, he should be in.
1:34:27
I don't know what the bias is against him.
1:34:29
A great player. And I'm not just saying that
1:34:30
because he's a giant. If you played on any other team,
1:34:32
I would still give him the same kudos because that's he achieved
1:34:35
the things that you want to achieve, you know, being
1:34:38
dominant in in an era. And I know they're saying he's
1:34:40
not he wasn't dominant because there was you know, Peyton was
1:34:43
still playing and and Brady was still playing.
1:34:45
They were putting up all these numbers.
1:34:46
OK, but when Rainy wasn't the one, the Super Bowl, Eli's won
1:34:49
the Super Bowl. We have guys that are down in
1:34:51
San Francisco right now and not down, you know, West of San
1:34:56
Francisco right now in the LA area.
1:34:59
So I, I've been keeping tabs on them and making sure that
1:35:01
they're doing the right thing. And so it's been a long day.
1:35:05
I'm writing, I'm writing for our website.
1:35:07
It's, it's a lot of stuff, man. We, we got to, we got to be on
1:35:10
top of things. Howard, come on, you're an
1:35:12
analyst. Big time of the year for you.
1:35:14
You are. You are.
1:35:15
You're here for me. I'm here for you, Howard.
1:35:17
I mean, like, we, we, we got to be buddies here.
1:35:19
I mean, you played. Yeah.
1:35:21
We, we got this the first time I'm meeting you and talking to
1:35:24
you and it's it's it's it's it feels like we're we've known
1:35:27
each other for a very long time now.
1:35:30
So anyways, I I want to get into the NFC ES.
1:35:34
The NFC ES and the Philadelphia Eagles are going to be good next
1:35:39
year. Well, they're going to have a
1:35:40
new offensive coordinator. The Washington Commanders have
1:35:44
not the same offensive coordinator, but they're going
1:35:48
to have Jaden Daniels back. He should be better.
1:35:51
And I do believe the Cowboys are going to be much better.
1:35:53
They have a lot of money to spend.
1:35:55
They didn't pay Michael Parsons. They have a ton of draft stock,
1:35:57
and they're probably going to start, probably resign George
1:36:00
Pickens. Where do you see the Giants next
1:36:04
year in this division? I don't know if the Eagles make
1:36:07
a step forward this year. I think they've they've they've
1:36:10
played as as far up as they could the last two years.
1:36:13
And I'm not saying that because I'm not against the Eagles or
1:36:15
anything. I think Jalen is a is an
1:36:17
incredible player. I got to have like a APHD in
1:36:21
quarterback in because he's had a different offensive
1:36:23
coordinator I think ever since he's been in college.
1:36:25
So now, so to keep learning systems over and over and over
1:36:28
again, you're never going to be truly great if you have to learn
1:36:31
a new system every year. I think that's going to be a
1:36:34
problem for them. I think their offensive line
1:36:36
played really well the Super Bowl year.
1:36:39
They took a little bit of a step back last year.
1:36:41
So that's going to hurt them as they go forward.
1:36:44
Maybe they'll get better because they want to prove themselves.
1:36:47
But usually, usually the thing that that gets you over to the
1:36:51
top is that you're really healthy.
1:36:53
And the healthiest they were was two years ago when they won the
1:36:55
Super Bowl. Coming off losing the Super Bowl
1:36:58
just a year or so before that, they were as healthy as they
1:37:01
could ever be that year. Last year, you saw the health
1:37:06
people getting injured, you know, something a tweak here, a
1:37:10
bang there, a couple weeks here, a couple weeks there, and they
1:37:13
never really got themselves on track.
1:37:15
And I think that is beyond anything else.
1:37:18
People don't realize the health of a team helps them get through
1:37:21
every moment. They weren't healthy the entire
1:37:23
time. If they can figure that out,
1:37:25
then yes, they'll be back at the top of NFC as far as Washington
1:37:29
goes if they can't protect Jalen Daniels.
1:37:32
I mean kids are super talented kid.
1:37:35
He could throw the ball from any angle.
1:37:37
He's got great legs, everything. But if he's always scrambling
1:37:42
and always running it only. Luckily the injury was to his
1:37:46
upper body. I think it was a tricep or
1:37:48
something or dislocated his elbow.
1:37:50
Oldest non throwing arm. But that's going to be on his
1:37:53
mind from this point on. He's going to be trying to
1:37:56
figure out new ways to get down and and not get crushed by 3 or
1:38:00
4 four guys running the ball or or trying to get out of the
1:38:03
pocket and and extend to play. You know, when you start getting
1:38:06
hurt and getting hurt twice, he's got a lot to think about.
1:38:09
Like the first time he got hurt. OK, I know he wants to play, but
1:38:12
in the offseason, people are going to be whispering to him,
1:38:14
hey, man, why'd you go back in the game?
1:38:16
Well, why why did you play again for the rest of the year?
1:38:19
Oh, I want to be with my teammates.
1:38:20
Yeah. How'd that work out?
1:38:22
You got to take care of yourself.
1:38:23
And he's going, that's going to be no matter what you say,
1:38:25
that's going to resonate. He's going to hear that a lot.
1:38:28
So I think that's going to bother them.
1:38:29
They got to get their defense kind of figured out and play a
1:38:32
little bit better defense. Olivia also.
1:38:34
And then you look at Dallas, love Dallas, always love Dallas
1:38:38
there, there. You know, Jerry's always got
1:38:40
something going on. The problem is he's got to like
1:38:42
redo his defense One, he's not going to be able to sign
1:38:45
Pickens. Pickens is going to want big
1:38:47
money and somebody's going to offer really big money.
1:38:51
Is Jerry going to go out of his way to overpay Pickens?
1:38:54
That's going to be an interesting question.
1:38:56
And it without Pickens, then their their offense looks
1:38:59
different. I mean, I love DAC, but you
1:39:02
know, that very looks different As far as the giants go, I think
1:39:06
with with being able to solid up the defense, if some if they
1:39:10
figure out how to complete a game from beginning to end
1:39:13
defensively, I think they're going to win, win a lot more
1:39:16
games. Now they're going to rank in it
1:39:18
in the east. Again, depends on Philadelphia's
1:39:21
health, depends on if they can protect my man down in
1:39:25
Washington. If they can do those two things,
1:39:27
you know, we're we're we're battling to be 3rd or 4th.
1:39:30
If they can't do those things, we're battling to be second,
1:39:33
maybe even 1st. And and that's not me being a
1:39:36
giants fan. That's just the way that the
1:39:38
that, you know, Philadelphia was the first team to won
1:39:41
back-to-back NFC East titles and God knows how long.
1:39:45
So yeah, it's it's it's crazy the way it works out.
1:39:48
And again, this year we went into the season, they're like,
1:39:52
it's going to be a tough schedule.
1:39:53
God, you never know. And that's the season when I'm
1:39:55
like, Oh yeah, it's a tough schedule.
1:39:56
These guys are all good, you know, so you're not going to
1:39:58
catch that. It's bad next year.
1:40:00
It's still going to be tough. You play the AFC S they're not
1:40:03
the same AFC South as you remember, because the Colts look
1:40:06
a lot better. Jacksonville.
1:40:08
Somehow, somebody found their. Found their way back to like oh
1:40:11
wow, we can actually play football and of course Houston
1:40:14
looks good every year. So you got that got that
1:40:17
division to play against. You'll figure it out, but the
1:40:21
rest of divisions, you'll get a chance at them to try to win
1:40:25
some games. But you're not going to you're
1:40:26
not going to have to like beat yourself up the entire season
1:40:29
like you did last year because last year was a tough schedule.
1:40:31
I actually will. You got to play.
1:40:33
You have to play. But we didn't have a New England
1:40:35
schedule, but we have. A really good.
1:40:40
Schedule Don't forget the tight isn't that division Brian Davis
1:40:42
revenge game. And I like, I like that Howard
1:40:45
said. DAC Prescott, because I love DAC
1:40:47
too, and I think DAC is a great quarterback.
1:40:50
He doesn't get enough credit that he deserves.
1:40:53
I, I really, everybody likes to pick on him.
1:40:55
The Cowboy fans, the Giant fans. And by the way, Howard, you have
1:40:58
three Giant fans. My, my board up, my producer and
1:41:03
my executive producer right down there.
1:41:04
They're all Giant fans. I'm the only Jet fan sitting
1:41:07
here, so I listen to this garbage every single show.
1:41:11
Well, they're giants. Well, they're giants.
1:41:13
Well, they're giants. No, no, no, no, no, no.
1:41:15
That's all I hear. I will say this for you, just to
1:41:18
just to give you, you know, to give you like perspective, and
1:41:21
someone asked, someone asked me the day that he got hired.
1:41:24
Oh, man, it's so great. Now we're going to win all these
1:41:26
games. Harbaugh's the guy.
1:41:28
He's going to, I'm like, listen, Harbaugh's not going to tackle
1:41:30
anybody. He's not going to catch a pass.
1:41:32
He's not going to block anybody. And I appreciate him.
1:41:35
You got to have bodies on the field for that coach to be a
1:41:40
great coach. If there are no bodies on the
1:41:42
field, I don't care who you are, you can bring back Vince
1:41:45
Lombardi and Belichick and clone them, put them together, mash
1:41:49
them together, make one coach. It is not going to change
1:41:51
anything. You got to have the bodies, you
1:41:53
know, and it and it's and and for the entire league.
1:41:56
It's getting tougher. NIL guys are coming in the
1:41:59
league with money transfer portal.
1:42:02
Guys have not stayed at the same place and had to grow and
1:42:06
develop as a player. I'm not playing.
1:42:08
I'll leave and go to another school like you don't You don't
1:42:10
learn to be a football player. And I listen to you guys talk
1:42:13
about football a little bit before when I was getting ready
1:42:17
for the show. The thing that you guys probably
1:42:19
don't think about, and I'm not AI, am an older guy I guess.
1:42:22
But it it's a real thing. A lot of great athletes to play
1:42:25
in the league today. Holy smoke, I.
1:42:28
Did I said that the. Difference between that era and
1:42:30
the era that I kind of came from is that we were all, we were
1:42:33
football players. It's a big difference being a
1:42:36
football player. And that's what you're geared
1:42:37
for mentally, emotionally. Like, you know, I could have
1:42:40
played basketball in college. I could have ran track in
1:42:43
college. I could have done a lot of
1:42:44
things in college. Heck, I could even probably play
1:42:46
baseball. But I was a football player.
1:42:48
It's like, and that's what my mind was wrapped around.
1:42:51
That's what my every all my being was around.
1:42:54
The way that they do things today, it's tough for these
1:42:56
guys. They they're like these guys are
1:42:58
not in facilities now. They're scattered across America
1:43:02
working out in really cool workout facilities and carrying
1:43:05
on. I used to be in like it's the
1:43:07
Super Bowl hadn't been played yet.
1:43:09
I'll be in the weight room working out with Phil Simms
1:43:13
watching film and stuff and getting ready for it for the
1:43:15
following season. Not worried about the playoffs
1:43:18
if we weren't in it or whatever it just getting ready for what
1:43:20
what came next. They can't do that anymore.
1:43:24
They blow them out of facilities, they come back
1:43:27
probably in April and then they get started.
1:43:29
Like that's not that's what takes it away.
1:43:32
That's where the athlete part of it comes in instead of the
1:43:35
football of it comes in. Yeah, we actually had your
1:43:37
teammate in Stephen Baker on a few months ago and he was saying
1:43:40
a lot of the same thing and that was a big reason he wasn't a big
1:43:42
fan of Odell backup at the time. As freak athlete as he was, he
1:43:45
sometimes he took it too far points and he was actually very
1:43:48
happy when they trained him at the time.
1:43:50
Baker and I disagree. I love Odell.
1:43:52
Great athlete. Great, great football player
1:43:54
wanted to do more, wanted to return punts, wanted to wanted
1:43:57
the ball you know would would take a shot at you blocking.
1:44:01
And if he had, if he got a chance to hit you, he was he was
1:44:04
still cut from the same cloth. They just didn't like the
1:44:06
antics. I didn't care.
1:44:07
Personality. I love personalities.
1:44:08
Like be as funny as you want to just keep making plays.
1:44:11
If that was the Case, No one would have liked the Lt.
1:44:13
So, so you should be listening. So you should be listening to
1:44:16
our show because we have great personality, my friend.
1:44:19
A little crazy, a little weird. And sometimes, you know, I could
1:44:22
be outlandishly crazy, but but we we give you our take and we
1:44:26
give it to you straight. You know, Jeremy Shockey, he got
1:44:28
a lot of abuse and over the years after he left the New York
1:44:32
Giants. And the one thing about you,
1:44:34
you're you're one of the better tight ends in NFL history when
1:44:38
it comes to blocking. Why do you think that hasn't
1:44:42
become or hasn't been in as important now than it was in the
1:44:47
time that you were playing blocking?
1:44:49
When when I was playing the, the probably the highest rate player
1:44:53
on the, the offense was the running back.
1:44:56
Like, you know, you, you always wanted an Emmitt Smith, a Barry
1:45:00
Sanders, a a Walter Payton, A Rodger, Rodger Craig, Eric
1:45:05
Dickerson. I can go on and on and on.
1:45:08
These were the got. These are how do we stop?
1:45:10
How you stop Thurman Thomas? How do you stop?
1:45:12
There were Hall of Fame receivers out there, but how do
1:45:15
you stop the running game? How do you how do you slow these
1:45:19
guys down? And it wasn't guys weren't
1:45:21
thrown for 4000 yards a year. You know, they just weren't
1:45:25
doing it a 300 yard game. And so you were playing from
1:45:27
behind like the, the most of the game.
1:45:30
It the the game was, was really the three yards in the cloud of
1:45:34
dust kind of moment. Tight ends, man caught a few
1:45:37
passes like I had a great season when I think I caught like 38
1:45:39
passes. They're like, man, you're a Pro
1:45:41
Bowl tight end. I'm like, I'm like, OK,
1:45:43
whatever. Like it's like it was like the
1:45:46
game was football was the entire game.
1:45:49
Now we have a lot of seven O 7 Series all over.
1:45:53
We have flag footballers come in and I love flag football because
1:45:56
it brings everybody closer to the game.
1:45:58
But the seven O 7, the spread, the the flag football, that is
1:46:03
the majority of what kids are. They want to catch the ball,
1:46:08
they want to be outside. They don't they don't cherish or
1:46:11
love contact. This is like it's the fun part
1:46:14
of the game. It's what they're playing.
1:46:16
It's it's the offensively gifted part of the game.
1:46:19
It's the defensively gifted. An interception is great, not
1:46:22
the sack of the quarterback. It's the interception.
1:46:28
Touchdown is great. It it's not the catch for the
1:46:31
first down, you know, it's the catch and runs Yak, hey, all
1:46:35
yards have to catch. This is great.
1:46:37
It's it's it's different. It's you, you they throw you the
1:46:40
ball net. I would have caught in this era
1:46:43
and I wasn't a great receiver. I would have caught 6070 passes
1:46:46
a year. They can't hit you if you if I
1:46:51
know for a fact that I can jump up in the air and you're not
1:46:54
going to hit me, I'm going to catch it.
1:46:57
You can't even. Threaten me.
1:47:00
You would run routes, have to go over the middle there you would
1:47:03
have to know exactly where everybody was on the field.
1:47:06
You could get hit pretty hard, like running.
1:47:09
Lot did not care if he hit at water.
1:47:15
Didn't care. You could get hurt out there.
1:47:17
You have to know where you were going.
1:47:18
I would be very bad. I would be very bad playing
1:47:21
quarterback. I'm very bad at sounding names
1:47:24
out very bad. I would have to give you a
1:47:26
nickname. I I would call instead of
1:47:28
calling you how I'd be like wee, wee like.
1:47:33
I would. I'd be horrible.
1:47:34
Medicine balls, we probably ourselves.
1:47:38
You should go. He's not paid to throw it to
1:47:40
you. He's paid to throw it near you.
1:47:42
I'm not, it's near me, but it's near that guy over there that's
1:47:44
going to kill me like. Oh man, Howard, quickly, who do
1:47:49
you have winning the Super Bowl this year?
1:47:52
I'm going to tell you guys I've listened to you guys also talk
1:47:54
about Sam Darnold and Drake May Love both guys has nothing to do
1:47:58
with either of them that both guys need to just play very
1:48:03
manage the game. These two defenses are going to
1:48:06
determine and I think right now Seattle has the edge in the
1:48:09
defensive department. They have such a great defensive
1:48:12
line. They get pressure from every
1:48:13
angle. The linebackers are playing
1:48:15
great. Their secondary will shut you
1:48:17
down. You know, New England has a good
1:48:21
receiver That's awesome. Seattle has a great receiver
1:48:26
also. So, you know, it's it's they're
1:48:29
pretty even the running game almost even.
1:48:32
But Seattle has a little bit of the edge there.
1:48:34
If they can figure out how to slow or or prevent make it a
1:48:38
dirty slow it down kind of game, they might have a chance.
1:48:41
But Seattle defense really, really is going to be when they
1:48:45
say the defense wins championships, it definitely
1:48:48
wins Super Bowls because Seattle defense is going to be pretty
1:48:51
phenomenal. Not the New England's defenses
1:48:53
isn't pretty good. But Seattle's defenses, if if
1:48:55
you watch them, especially through the playoffs, they are
1:48:58
they they look like they're playing with 13 or 14 guys on
1:49:01
the field. Is this a better Seattle defense
1:49:03
than the championship defense that we saw with the Legion of
1:49:06
Boom? I think so when you think about
1:49:08
upfront now, their secondary in the Legion of Boom was that's
1:49:11
what the Legion of Boom was. They were still, you know,
1:49:13
before they were just on the edge of the the rule change and
1:49:17
they were like laying the wood on guys out there and you did
1:49:20
not want to catch the ball over the middle.
1:49:22
You got cornerbacks at six foot 26 foot three playing on the
1:49:26
edge. Cam Chancellor.
1:49:27
Brown. Yeah.
1:49:28
Cam Chancellor, like, like, you know, Sherman, like they, they
1:49:32
they were like, like the secondary was Hall of Fame.
1:49:35
Yeah. So like, you know, the
1:49:36
linebackers Hall of Fame. It's hard to remember who was
1:49:39
playing in front of those guys. And that's not an insult to that
1:49:45
defense. It's just this group, there is
1:49:49
somebody at every level that you know what's going on and the guy
1:49:53
beside him and that was they're more complete.
1:49:56
It it, it doesn't get to be boomed because they're sacking
1:49:59
you. You don't get the ball up in the
1:50:01
air and get it down the field because they're probably sacking
1:50:04
your quarterback. He's running for his life and it
1:50:06
gives it gives quarterbacks a hard time.
1:50:08
Howard. Howard, you should be down.
1:50:10
You should be over there in San Francisco selling some real
1:50:13
estate. That's what I heard you were
1:50:15
doing. You should be out there.
1:50:17
You should be going over there. Gronk, you want you want to buy
1:50:19
some houses? Come on.
1:50:20
Come to New Jersey. Come to New Jersey.
1:50:23
Just don't bring Nick. I'm a.
1:50:25
Commercial guy and that market is not the best market.
1:50:29
I don't mind working in Manhattan.
1:50:31
Well, they got money, every one of them, so they'll, they'll,
1:50:34
they'll spin the wheel and make the deal, as we all know.
1:50:36
But Howard, we really appreciate you joining us.
1:50:39
I know it's been busy for you the offseason.
1:50:41
You're doing such a great job. You do a great job with the
1:50:43
Giants and keep up the good work.
1:50:46
And we'd love to get you on before the season starts.
1:50:49
Alright, let me know man, I'll be around.
1:50:51
All right, Howard Cross, ladies and gentlemen, give them a golf
1:50:54
clap. Speedy God give a nice a nice
1:50:56
golf clap where it. Is.
1:50:58
It is we love. I listen.
1:51:00
I'm not a Giant fan, but when we get Giants on the show, I love
1:51:04
them because they're honest, they're straightforward, and
1:51:07
even though they're going to stick up for their teams, they
1:51:10
always do. They understand that you have to
1:51:14
be honest. You got to go out there as a
1:51:16
Jeff fan. My team sucks, okay?
1:51:18
They stink. And bringing in Frank, right?
1:51:22
I, I hope it works. It probably is going to fail.
1:51:25
Aaron Glenn's going to get fired and then we're going to be
1:51:29
driving up another coach or finding somebody like Jon Gruden
1:51:32
or something like that. I, I mean, honestly, as a Jet
1:51:35
fan, I could only hope this season is somewhat decent.
1:51:39
Somewhat decent Because if it isn't, I am going to have a I'm
1:51:44
going to have a heart attack. I'm going to have something I,
1:51:46
I, I already have a heart murmur.
1:51:48
I might have a stroke or a heart attack.
1:51:50
So I mean, this team just makes me sick to my stomach.
1:51:53
So Howard Cross was sensational. Thank you to Howard.
1:51:56
I really appreciate him. He was absolutely sensational.
1:52:01
He tastes himself. And he tastes himself.
1:52:03
As we all know. Ladies and gentlemen, we call
1:52:06
this. Alrighty then.
1:52:10
Alrighty then. Alrighty, Alrighty then.
1:52:16
I had to take a shit. That's not what Chavez doing
1:52:21
right now. Maybe, but here we go with.
1:52:23
Alrighty then, this is a segment where we're going to read 1 of
1:52:28
Errol's articles on the worldwide sports.
1:52:31
Radio. Dot com.
1:52:33
This one is his recent article about the man, the legend, the
1:52:38
Draymond Green. I'm going to read some of it.
1:52:41
Then Speedy is going to read some comments from our from
1:52:44
Errol's fans on Reddit, like a serial count.
1:52:49
So here we go. Let's get this guy off the
1:52:52
screen. The new one coming right up for
1:52:55
you and again, if you are not watching along with us, please,
1:52:59
you watch us on video. You can get the video feeds as
1:53:02
well as the audio on Spotify on Apple Speedy.
1:53:07
I think we're just audio on Pod Bean, but we are everywhere.
1:53:10
You can find us YouTube houses, all of our live shows.
1:53:13
You can catch all of our shorts, all of our longer videos there
1:53:17
and all throughout all of the socials.
1:53:20
So here it is, Draymond Green verse common sense.
1:53:23
A 10 year undefeated streak by Errol Marx.
1:53:27
So here we go. If chaos had a jersey, it would
1:53:30
be a Warriors green #23 with a podcast mic tucked under one arm
1:53:36
and a referee in a headlock under the other.
1:53:39
Draymond Green, basketball savant, defensive genius and
1:53:43
part time WWE audition tape has once again found a way to make
1:53:48
the NBA about him. And not in the wow what a great
1:53:51
defender way, but in the yo did he really just say that way?
1:53:55
According to reports, Draymond and allegedly directed an
1:53:58
offensive racially charged remark toward a referee, an
1:54:01
incident that has fans doing the universal sports reaction.
1:54:05
What? Shaking their heads, looking
1:54:07
their phones, whispering Draymond again.
1:54:10
And honestly, at this point, nobody shocked, Disappointed,
1:54:12
yes. Surprise, absolutely not.
1:54:14
This is an isolated incident. This is episode 947 of Keeping
1:54:18
Up With the Greens and their anger issues.
1:54:21
Let's take a nostalgic stroll down Draymond Blvd. 2016 The
1:54:26
Nutcracker Chronicles Kick Steven Adams where no basketball
1:54:30
should ever go. Not once, not twice.
1:54:32
Enough times to qualify for a UFC loyalty card.
1:54:36
The referee roasting era. The 2023 The Stomp Around the
1:54:40
World 2023 Rudy Gobert gets the sleeper hold guys.
1:54:46
Come and check out the rest of the article on
1:54:49
worldwidesportsradio.com. Speedy all.
1:54:53
Right. By the way, before I get to the
1:54:54
comment, I do want to mention the first incident with Steven
1:54:56
Adams. One of my one of my college
1:54:59
friends actually crashed our show and called that Thunder
1:55:01
from Down Under. That's right, I remember that
1:55:04
very much. Yeah, yeah, there's plenty of
1:55:07
them. So I did a mixture of this with
1:55:09
this set. So this group NBA discussion, I
1:55:11
kind of worded it as does this these kind of incidents make
1:55:15
Draymond Green the dirtiest player in NBA history and one of
1:55:17
the dumbest. And it's interesting because the
1:55:19
first comment I want to bring up actually brought up the the
1:55:21
anger management slash mental health angle from from Errol's
1:55:24
article. And this is a Schlang Lankus.
1:55:27
How many players been suspended indefinitely and sent a
1:55:29
mandatory therapy and counseling?
1:55:30
A step beyond dirty place for Draymond.
1:55:32
And it goes into mental health and trying to hurt others
1:55:34
throughout his career. Say that again.
1:55:37
I'm sorry, Speedy. I was.
1:55:38
I was reading something. So he was saying how many, how
1:55:41
many players have been suspended indefinitely and sent to
1:55:43
mandatory therapy and counseling?
1:55:44
He thinks it's a step beyond dirty plays with Draymond Green
1:55:47
and goes into mental health and anger management issues that are
1:55:49
trying to hurt others during his career.
1:55:51
I, I agree with you. I, I think that Draymond Green
1:55:54
has been an absolute ridiculous personality.
1:55:58
And, and again, Draymond Green is the enforcer.
1:56:00
He's the Dennis Rodman of this era.
1:56:03
Dennis Rodman didn't do the things that Draymond Green has
1:56:06
done. I've seen Rodman throw punches.
1:56:08
I've I've seen him, you know, put it, you know, dye his hair
1:56:12
in different, you know, different ways.
1:56:14
And and he's gone out there and and spoke and and have attacked
1:56:17
people to the media. But Janice, Rod and by the way,
1:56:20
he's gotten drunk and and gone to casinos before games, playoff
1:56:25
games, and then show up the day, the day after and play in those
1:56:28
games drunk. I've seen him do that, but I've
1:56:31
never seen Dennis Ramen do the things that Dream on Green has
1:56:34
done on the basketball court. It's despicable.
1:56:37
It's ridiculous. And the the NBA really has not
1:56:41
stepped in at all. They suspend him what, a couple
1:56:44
of times they find him a couple of times.
1:56:46
This guy continues to do it. And now after what he has said
1:56:50
about the referees and talking about Caucasians and and race, I
1:56:55
mean, this guy does not know when to shut up.
1:56:57
So it's it's typical. Absolutely.
1:57:00
Typical, right? So you brought up Dennis Rodman
1:57:02
and a lot of the comments were centered on the Bad Boy Pistons.
1:57:05
This one actually extended further.
1:57:06
This is Organic Valley, Bad Boy Pistons existed, so no.
1:57:09
So I kind of mentioned like collectively as a team.
1:57:11
Or is Draymond Green individually worse than that?
1:57:13
He also mentioned Bill M Beer, which a couple other guys
1:57:16
mentioned too, as being the dirtiest player.
1:57:17
And then also Zaza Pakulia, who had the infamous dirty play on
1:57:21
Kawhi Leonard when he was sold the Spurs.
1:57:23
And he says also from other eras that were dirtier than Draymond
1:57:26
as well. I will say this, the Bad Boy
1:57:28
Pistons were a lot dirtier than Draymond Green because you could
1:57:32
do a lot more in the NBA in the 80s.
1:57:34
I mean, the Jordan Rules, they wouldn't even let him get into
1:57:38
get into the box. If he got into the box.
1:57:40
They clothesline them and I've seen how many times Michael
1:57:43
Jordan go up for a layup and he get pushed, pushed into the the
1:57:47
fans and stuff like that into the seats.
1:57:49
So we're going Organic Valley. I absolutely agree with you.
1:57:52
I think that in those days they could do anything.
1:57:55
How about the bed, the Celtic teams, how vicious they were on
1:57:58
a basketball court in the 80's, the Larry Bird and Kevin McHale
1:58:02
and Robert Parish teams, they were mean and they were vicious
1:58:05
as well on the basketball court. So you're right, Draymond Green
1:58:08
is not as bad as they are because the rules are different.
1:58:12
But in those days, flagrant fouls really never existed.
1:58:15
Now you put a pinky on somebody because of LeBron James, you're
1:58:18
getting a flagrant 1. So.
1:58:20
Here's another interesting one. I was, I don't have the whole
1:58:22
comment because he he was writing like a paragraph when he
1:58:24
did this, but this is PPO. He actually thinks the game has
1:58:27
gone softer since the 50s when players were constantly
1:58:29
fighting, even instances where players were fighting the
1:58:32
police. And he thinks it's even got
1:58:33
softer into the 80s. PPI agree with you.
1:58:38
I I wasn't alive for the 50s, so how would I know what was going
1:58:41
on in the 50s? What I do know is that as as the
1:58:45
70s came around and the 80s came around, you see more aggressive
1:58:49
play. And even when Charles Barkley,
1:58:52
Charles Barkley started playing in the 80s all the way into the
1:58:55
90s, how many fights did we see him fight with Shaquille O'Neal?
1:58:58
Now they're butt buddies. They're hanging out on the same
1:59:00
set. So these guys absolutely hate
1:59:03
each other. And here's another thing, when
1:59:05
you were playing for a team, the Bulls, you were playing for the
1:59:08
Knicks, you were playing for the Pistons.
1:59:10
They were never friends. They never liked each other.
1:59:13
Every time they played, they couldn't stand each other.
1:59:16
Now these guys are brother in laws or they're, I don't know.
1:59:22
They're they're they're sons godfather.
1:59:24
Well, I mean, all of these guys, Chris Paul, Carmelo Anthony,
1:59:27
Dwyane Wade, LeBron James, they're all buddies and they're
1:59:31
they're all arch nemesis is when they played against one another.
1:59:34
So it's a a completely different sport than it was in the 80s and
1:59:37
the 90s to today. All right, so another one this
1:59:40
another one. This is from OK temporary 2843.
1:59:42
So kind of another 1 based on Lambier.
1:59:45
That's Bill. He's a complying Bill Lambier.
1:59:46
He has a video game about how he was the dirtiest player.
1:59:48
And besides that, that's like cool.
1:59:50
You mentioned again, but I kind of wanted to word it as this.
1:59:52
Like do you think Draymond Green takes more pride in him being in
1:59:56
like a angry player in his antics on the court than Lambier
1:59:59
dead? Draymond Green's trying to sell
2:00:03
sponsorships algorithms as, as they say with the computer and
2:00:09
AI, they're trying to find the right algorithm that's going to
2:00:12
sell his product. He is a podcaster.
2:00:14
That's what he does. And yes, I think when he comes
2:00:17
out with these vicious takes on and off the basketball court or
2:00:20
he's trying to choke somebody out or step on their balls or
2:00:23
trying to injurely permanently injure somebody.
2:00:26
Yeah, he knows it's going to be on ESPN.
2:00:28
No, he knows it's going to be on Sports Center.
2:00:30
In the 80s and the 90s, there wasn't ESPN really.
2:00:33
I mean, they had their they were just getting into ESPNESPN was
2:00:37
just getting popular. So it was only one sports
2:00:40
organization. Now you have you have the
2:00:42
Internet, you have Yahoo Sports, you have ESPN, you have CBS
2:00:45
Sports, you have all these different plain, you know,
2:00:48
different platforms that you can post things and it can get out
2:00:51
there. So, yeah, Draymond Green's
2:00:53
trying to sell himself. He's trying to sell himself away
2:00:55
from basketball because at the tail end he's on the back
2:00:58
eighteen of his career. So yeah, I agree with you.
2:01:02
OK, I I I do believe the Lambier is one of the vicious players of
2:01:06
this era. Kevin McHale was pretty bad,
2:01:08
too, All right. I don't, I don't know if anybody
2:01:10
remembers Kevin McHale. He was vicious on the basketball
2:01:13
court. You go up in a layup, if he
2:01:15
didn't like you, he's elbowing you right in the chest.
2:01:18
And they would never call a foul on Kevin McHale.
2:01:20
He would get away with it a lot. So.
2:01:23
All right, last one we got from inside, noise 68-O four.
2:01:26
Does Draymond Green being this dirty make this error with the
2:01:28
athletes that are in the game now?
2:01:29
It was the longer comment, the toughest, dirtiest and most
2:01:32
physical in history. Not a chance.
2:01:34
Yeah, I figured that the most physical time when I basketball
2:01:39
was my sport. Watching basketball was the
2:01:40
first sport I fell in love with. From the late 80s to the mid
2:01:46
90s. It was vicious.
2:01:47
Think about it. You had the Pistons, you had the
2:01:49
Celtics, the Bull. The Bulls were not vicious.
2:01:52
Michael Jordan was just vicious. He would just give it to you on
2:01:55
the basketball card. You speak to him, he'd give it
2:01:57
to you. The Knicks, they were vicious.
2:01:59
They would absolutely punish you when you went up for a layup.
2:02:03
I mean, you had Anthony Mason and Charles Oakley, you had
2:02:06
these kind of guys, Xavier McDaniel, who couldn't stand
2:02:09
Michael Jordan was trying to permanently injure him every
2:02:11
time he went up for a layup. So there were a lot of mean
2:02:14
teams. And then you had finesse teams
2:02:17
like the Houston Rockets and, and those teams and they didn't
2:02:21
become the elite of the elite until Michael Jordan stepped
2:02:24
away for a couple of years. So I, I, I, I do believe that
2:02:28
the late 80s and early 90s were the meanest when it came to and
2:02:33
physical, more physical teams in, in that time and that, and
2:02:37
in this, I would say in this century of basketball.
2:02:40
So that was the worst this time. I mean, who's the most vicious 1
2:02:44
You have Brooks and you have Draymond.
2:02:47
I mean, there's not many vicious players in the NBA.
2:02:50
Draymond Green, he to me, I think it's all about click bait.
2:02:55
I think it's all about social media.
2:02:57
It's all about algorithm. It's all about his podcast.
2:03:00
That's why he doesn't. Everything that comes out of
2:03:02
that guy's mouth, everything he does on the court is trying to
2:03:05
sell sponsorship. He's a bad boy.
2:03:07
Is he considered one of the top worst top ten bad boys of all
2:03:11
time? Not a chance.
2:03:12
I don't think Draymond Green is in my top ten bad boys.
2:03:15
Top 15, yes. Top ten, no.
2:03:17
I would take five of the Detroit Pistons.
2:03:20
Everybody talks about Bill and beer.
2:03:22
There was another guy in the team for the first couple of
2:03:24
years, I forget his name, another big that was pretty
2:03:26
vicious too on that team. Isaiah Thomas was bad.
2:03:31
He he did something. Dennis Rodman got worse later at
2:03:35
the tail end of his Detroit Piston years and then going in,
2:03:39
you know, with the playing with the Spurs and playing with the
2:03:41
the Bulls, he became more vicious.
2:03:43
There were a lot of vicious players also in the 50s too.
2:03:47
Wilt Chamberlain was a vicious player.
2:03:49
He would beat the hell out of you every time he put his hands
2:03:53
up. Wilt Chamberlain didn't have to
2:03:55
jump. He would knee you in the crotch
2:03:57
every time you went up for a layup because he was that
2:03:59
bigger. He was that much bigger than
2:04:01
you. And even Bill Russell, there
2:04:02
were, there were things about Bill Russell that they said that
2:04:05
he would. He would.
2:04:06
He would use elbows, he would use fingers.
2:04:08
He would use anything to keep you away from the hoop.
2:04:09
So there were a lot of vicious players in the past and they got
2:04:13
away with it because the NBA has become more of a girls game now.
2:04:17
So, yeah, Draymond Green, top ten.
2:04:21
No, I do not believe he's a top ten.
2:04:24
Do I think he's the worst of this era?
2:04:25
Yeah, I would say he is. In the last 15 years.
2:04:28
Yeah. Brooks is getting up there.
2:04:30
I mean, he's getting up there now.
2:04:32
I could say that. And Brooks, Brooks is getting to
2:04:34
a point where he's he's still fairly young.
2:04:37
Draymond's on the tail end. I don't think we've seen a list
2:04:40
of the bad the big bad Brooks going out there and doing
2:04:44
something that's going to cause a lot of a lot of takes on ESPN
2:04:49
and first take in the future and he maybe even on our show.
2:04:52
So yeah, I I think Draymond Green's the worst of this era.
2:04:56
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we call this sounded out. Say roll here.
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Let's sound it out. What you call me?
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Sound it out out. Think about skid mark.
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All right, here we are. Sound it out.
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Everyone sort of favorite another game, phonics shamanics.
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Errol's got it. Errol.
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It's the NBA trade deadline day. It happened at 3:00.
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We're going to do a segment on it right after this.
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I went back in time, Errol, and found the most recent weird
2:06:15
names that have been traded at the deadline.
2:06:19
Let's start today. Sound it out.
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First one up here he is. I think Brooklyn had him sound.
2:06:31
Shimezi Metu. Oh, Speedy.
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That's good. Oh, let's give him the the Ding
2:06:38
Ding Ding. I got 1.
2:06:41
He got one. Everybody all right?
2:06:45
Kiss my ass everybody, You can't laugh at me tonight.
2:06:49
Start the music back up one for one.
2:06:52
Can't get better than that. Only one way to go from here.
2:06:55
Next name coming on down the Pike.
2:07:00
Coming down the Pike. There it.
2:07:03
Is Oh my God, sounded out. One at one point was thought of
2:07:11
as a pretty good three and D guy.
2:07:13
I believe in Sixers. May TC Fibul.
2:07:21
See Buell. Your version is pretty good.
2:07:26
That's Matisse Tibal. All right, one for two.
2:07:32
That's not half bad. Let's get the music back up for
2:07:35
one more. Here it comes.
2:07:39
The last one. We've already gone down the Pike
2:07:42
now around the corner, down the stream.
2:07:45
Oh my. God, dial it up.
2:07:47
You got to be kidding me. Yeah, I don't even know this.
2:07:55
One Chuck. Would it be here Mad you?
2:08:00
Boom. What the hell is this?
2:08:08
This is ridiculous. Hold on, I spent literally the
2:08:13
last 10 minutes of the last segment learning how to
2:08:16
pronounce this Chukwudiabere madua boom.
2:08:20
You knew I was getting this one. From Nigeria, obviously.
2:08:24
All right. I mean, good luck on that one.
2:08:28
Well, one for three that would make the All Star game in any
2:08:31
any year in. Baseball.
2:08:33
Nice job. That's the only sport I think
2:08:36
that works for it, but great job sounding it out.
2:08:40
Oh. My God, what a show.
2:08:44
Man, you got to be kidding me. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
2:08:50
we, we got to go to the NBA trade deadline, aren't we?
2:08:52
We're getting into that. Yeah, All right, let's get it
2:08:56
going. Tommy.
2:08:57
Get the NBA music on. Here it is.
2:09:01
Starting it off. We'll just pull it on over to
2:09:04
the side with our new graphic. Wherever it is.
2:09:08
There it is. And our top story, The Mavericks
2:09:13
have traded Anthony Davis. Let's get that a little bit
2:09:18
lower. But Anthony Davis last year was
2:09:22
traded for Luka Doncic. Unbelievable story that no one
2:09:26
saw coming. They fire Nico Harrison
2:09:29
beginning of this season and less than a season later,
2:09:33
through plenty more injuries, Anthony Davis is gone.
2:09:36
Here's the details of the trade. The Washington Wizards acquire
2:09:40
Anthony Davis, Jaden Hardy, D'Angelo Russell and Dante Exum.
2:09:46
Dallas receives Chris Middleton from Washington, AJ Johnson,
2:09:51
Tyus Jones from Charlotte, Marvin Bagley the third from
2:09:54
Washington. This year's first round pick
2:09:59
from Oklahoma City so not a good first round pick and 20 thirties
2:10:03
first round pick from Golden State might be good and three
2:10:07
future second round picks from Washington.
2:10:10
Charlotte gets some guy no one's ever heard of.
2:10:15
It's just one of the most embarrassing trades of all time
2:10:17
now, right, Errol? First of.
2:10:18
All Washington wins this trade, there's no doubt about it
2:10:22
because we've seen this with the Knicks with Porzingis.
2:10:25
Those first round draft picks could be absolutely nothing and
2:10:28
Anthony Davis is still a competent guy.
2:10:30
He's a double, double machine when he gets back and he's
2:10:33
healthy in the second-half of the season.
2:10:35
I mean, it bodes well for the Knicks if they if if, if the
2:10:39
Wizards fall out of the top 8, which right now they're 4th or
2:10:42
5th, the Knicks get their pick. So if it's nine or 10, the
2:10:45
Knicks will be sitting pretty for this year's draft, sitting
2:10:48
at 9 or 10. So it's good news for the Knicks
2:10:50
and not good for the East because the Wizards are getting
2:10:53
better. Say whatever you want.
2:10:55
You got Trey Young and you have Anthony Davis, you have D'Angelo
2:10:58
Russell and and and by the way, going back to the Dallas
2:11:02
Mavericks, all they're trying to do is get rid of contracts.
2:11:05
Those guys, Begley, all of them, they're not even going to be
2:11:07
under contract next year. So they're opening up free
2:11:11
agency, maybe Giannis next year playing with Cooper flag and
2:11:14
whoever they draft in the top three, because it looks like
2:11:16
that's where Dallas is going to land once again.
2:11:19
Maybe Cam Boozer or one of those guys sitting there pretty
2:11:23
playing with Cooper flag next year with be honest.
2:11:27
I mean, Dallas could automatically be a contender
2:11:30
contender in the in the in the Western Conference next year if
2:11:35
this all happens. I I mean it, it works for both
2:11:37
teams, but Dallas got nothing out of that trade.
2:11:41
So I think it was great for the Wizards.
2:11:43
I think the Wizards are set up pretty well and if they could
2:11:46
stay in the top 8, they're going to get themselves a very high
2:11:49
draft pick and they still have two competent superstars that
2:11:52
can help this team move forward, which they probably couldn't get
2:11:55
in free agency. Yeah, you're, you're dealing
2:11:57
with a trade of three backup point guards, essentially.
2:12:00
Russell's probably the best one, but then Tyus Jones and and
2:12:03
Dante actually. Could trade for them.
2:12:04
I mean, yeah, they get a lot of guys, but those are all expiring
2:12:07
contracts. It doesn't matter.
2:12:08
Marvin Bagley is the guy that was two number two pick that
2:12:11
turned out to be a boss. So far, so good job.
2:12:13
Nico Harrison, that's all you guys been trading for.
2:12:15
Luka Dodgek was just that guy that had this amazing condition
2:12:18
today. As Knicks fans now, we're hoping
2:12:19
that your conditioning tactics with Anthony Davis could
2:12:22
actually come true and he could say health.
2:12:23
It's a great move for the Wizards.
2:12:25
I mean, think about it, Anthony Davis and Trey Young.
2:12:28
Anthony Davis is going to love it there.
2:12:30
He's going to be the go to guy. Trey Young will be #2 And I
2:12:33
think it's going to be fun to watch.
2:12:34
I think the Wizards are going to be pretty good.
2:12:36
Now, if they can get healthy, Davis could stay healthy.
2:12:39
They're going to win a lot of games, maybe not this year, but
2:12:42
next year, especially in the draft, if they can get that top
2:12:45
a pick. So I think it's a good move for
2:12:47
the Wizards, not a very good move for The Mavericks, but The
2:12:49
Mavericks are looking for the future, trying to add to draft.
2:12:52
So I think that's what they're trying to do, build around flag.
2:12:55
If that's what they're trying to do, Errol, all they got and this
2:12:58
is the net trade acquisition for Luka Doncic now.
2:13:02
So now they they got what they got for him in the first trade.
2:13:05
Now they moved Anthony Davis. This is the total return now for
2:13:08
Luca, Chris Middleton, Max Christie, who's actually been
2:13:11
pretty good, Marvin Bagley, the third who's on his like 13th
2:13:14
team, AJ Johnson, Malachi Branham, along with three first
2:13:19
round picks in 2026 that we said was the last pick of the draft
2:13:23
or close to it. 29 and 30 and 3 second round picks.
2:13:27
Garbage that doesn't. I wouldn't want that for Luka
2:13:30
Doncic. That's crazy.
2:13:32
Well, let's move on to the next one, which is James Harden
2:13:37
wanted out of a place again and gets his wishes again.
2:13:41
I don't know how this guy keeps getting it done.
2:13:43
There was some broadcaster who just went in on him.
2:13:47
I forgot the guy's name, but he just basically said that he's
2:13:49
been enabled his entire career. Daryl Morey gave him everything.
2:13:53
Then he turned on Daryl Morey. Well, he wanted to go to to the
2:13:57
Clippers and all of a sudden he doesn't want to be there
2:14:00
anymore. He asked for a trade in the
2:14:01
middle of the game and just just really stupid, really ugly.
2:14:06
So what do they get for him? They get Darius Garland back in
2:14:10
a second round pick. It's almost a straight up deal.
2:14:13
Darius Garland for hard for Harden.
2:14:15
Basically, Harden had veto power over anything.
2:14:19
But Harden, of course, is going Oh, I wanted them to have a
2:14:21
chance to build in the future. That's why I waved my my no
2:14:26
trade clause, trying to act like he's this, you know, great
2:14:31
Samaritan for the team he is. Now crybaby.
2:14:33
Yet again. Cleveland's making a big
2:14:36
mistake. I understand that Darius Garland
2:14:40
and Mitchell, Donovan Mitchell weren't getting along on and off
2:14:43
the court, and that's probably Garland wanted to be traded last
2:14:45
year, but they couldn't move them.
2:14:47
Garland is getting a little bit more healthier now.
2:14:50
The Clippers are getting a good guard, a guy that can do a lot
2:14:53
of different things. He actually plays somewhat
2:14:55
defense, something that Harden doesn't do.
2:14:58
Harden is a prolific offensive player, but he's the same kind
2:15:01
of player as Donovan Mitchell. He needs the ball in his hand.
2:15:04
This is not going to work, ladies and gentlemen.
2:15:06
It's not. They think they got better.
2:15:08
They got worse. I think Darius Garland is a
2:15:10
better overall player than James Harden.
2:15:13
I think it's a bad move for it's a good move for the Clippers,
2:15:16
bad move for the Cleveland Cavaliers.
2:15:18
They the Cleveland Cavaliers got worse for this move.
2:15:20
Yeah, Josh hinted on his show on Tuesday this trade was pending
2:15:24
at that time. It happened at 2 a couple hours
2:15:26
later after his show. And it just makes no sense for
2:15:28
the Cavs. Like, yes, I know the Cavs need
2:15:30
3 point shooting. They need guys that could be
2:15:31
knocked down shooters. They needed that in more of
2:15:33
quantity, not as much like one player.
2:15:36
We know Harden loves to shoot at a volume.
2:15:38
He loves to hog the ball, which doesn't help a case like Donovan
2:15:40
Mitchell, who's already a bad usage rate guy as it is.
2:15:43
James Harden's another bad usage rate guy.
2:15:45
I just can't see that kind of thing working at all.
2:15:46
And I feel bad for Kenny Atkinson.
2:15:48
You had to get out of Harden when he was with the Nets and
2:15:51
now has to get back with him again.
2:15:53
And I just think it's really hard to be able to manage that
2:15:55
kind of thing. The Clippers I think will
2:15:57
benefit this trade in the long term, but even that it's not
2:15:59
like amazing either. Or Kenny Atkinson.
2:16:02
I feel like that stuff like this happens to Kenny Atkinson all
2:16:05
the freaking time. That's just awful.
2:16:08
Whatever. It's just, you know, it's not
2:16:10
going to work for very long. May be true.
2:16:13
Here's the next one. This one I thought was really
2:16:16
surprising. Not so much that he was traded
2:16:18
because we knew that Jaron Jackson Junior was on the
2:16:21
market, but that it was to Utah who was going nowhere this
2:16:25
season. It's an 8 player deal.
2:16:27
It was actually the first trade that happened yesterday.
2:16:30
A lot of trades happened all at the same time.
2:16:33
It was three first round picks along with rookie guard Walter
2:16:37
Clayton Junior. You might remember him from
2:16:39
winning the national championship with Florida.
2:16:41
He was the big guy making all the plays last year, playing
2:16:45
like a mini, mini Jalen Brunson out there.
2:16:47
And he gets they get forward Kyle Anderson back, Taylor
2:16:51
Hendricks and Georges Nyang and that's the deal.
2:16:54
The Jazz also get center Jacques Landale and guards John Conchar
2:16:58
and Vince Williams juniors in the deal.
2:17:00
There's also the picks are 2027. It looks like swaps.
2:17:05
He's one of the better. You know, we're listening to I
2:17:07
was listening to people talk about it.
2:17:09
He plays center on the offensive side, on the defensive side of
2:17:14
the ball, except he's better playing with the center is what
2:17:17
they say, because he's undersized.
2:17:19
So he's kind of like a tweener, 4-5 type guy.
2:17:23
But he's good enough outside shooting that you can kind of
2:17:26
get away with them at other spots.
2:17:28
As far as Utah, they got marking.
2:17:30
They got marking in still. They didn't have to give him up
2:17:32
to get him. So now you got that core.
2:17:34
Walker Kessler comes back next year, maybe they have something.
2:17:37
I guess Kessler's got to do the rebounding.
2:17:40
This triple J5 rebounds a. Game.
2:17:42
I do not get this trade. Jaron Jackson is one of the best
2:17:45
defensive players in the league. Two way players can do
2:17:48
everything. And again, Danny Ainge obviously
2:17:52
screws another organization and steals another player from
2:17:55
another team. He's done it many, many times
2:17:57
with the Boston Celtics and now he's doing with the Utah Jazz in
2:18:01
This is a horrible trade, a horrible trade for the
2:18:04
Grizzlies, Terrible, terrible move.
2:18:06
I, I think there's no doubt Utah wins this trade. 2027 picks.
2:18:12
Are they really going to be that high of a picks?
2:18:14
I don't think it's going to work.
2:18:15
I I think it's wrong. So it's a slam dunk for Utah.
2:18:19
Yeah, I think Jaren Jackson still going to create good
2:18:22
value. I I think it's weird because
2:18:25
they have a lot of those forward prototypes now that I feel like
2:18:27
marketing seems like he would have been maybe, maybe an
2:18:29
offseason trade. Now Kessler has been in rumors
2:18:31
for an offseason trade because they have now three of those
2:18:33
same types. I don't think any of these guys
2:18:35
can transition into a three. So that's the only thing that's
2:18:37
bad value. But Jackson's a great player.
2:18:39
Like I think you can't go wrong with it.
2:18:40
I I it's weird. Memphis, we saw them do this
2:18:43
with Bane in the offseason. They got four first round picks
2:18:45
out of that. Now they're accumulating a lot
2:18:47
more. I think they're kind of knowing
2:18:48
that they can't get good value for John Moran.
2:18:49
So they're trying to trade everything else at this point.
2:18:51
So I'm not going to fault the grizzly for trying to get good
2:18:53
value because I don't know how. Get a good value for Jackson.
2:18:56
That's not good value. I mean, what do they get to get
2:18:59
out of that? Yeah, nothing.
2:19:01
They're not winning because this is the same thing the Knicks did
2:19:04
with Porzingis. They get they, they thought they
2:19:07
were getting first round draft picks and high first round draft
2:19:10
picks because they didn't think the Dallas Mavericks were going
2:19:12
to be any good because Luka Doncic was trying to figure out
2:19:15
and he can't stay healthy and Porzingis never stays healthy.
2:19:18
They thought they were going to get high picks.
2:19:19
What did they get? They got 2 second round draft
2:19:21
picks for Kristaps Porzingis that helped the Boston Celtics
2:19:24
six win a. Championship, yeah.
2:19:25
It's not this year's draft. That's the only downside, I
2:19:27
think to this deal when you look at it because the Grizzlies did
2:19:30
dwell getting some with those Orlando picks and some of the
2:19:33
picks they got from the other teams.
2:19:34
It's a horrible move. Yeah, this that's the only
2:19:36
downside with this trade, but Utah now is probably have to
2:19:39
trade one of those other. Guys, Danny Ainge is sitting
2:19:41
pretty right now. He's smiling to the bank because
2:19:44
he got himself a two way player that you probably don't get what
2:19:48
you're what you're getting, what you're trading for.
2:19:50
You got a really, really good player, an elite player who's an
2:19:53
All Star. So Danny Ainge hit a home run on
2:19:56
this move and he gave up three first round draft picks that are
2:19:59
going to probably be. Dead first round draft picks so.
2:20:03
Yeah, they're down the road. So let's get into the next
2:20:06
topic. And that one is a former Nick
2:20:09
Kristops Porzingis on the move again.
2:20:11
He's an expiring deal. Who does he go for?
2:20:13
The Warriors figure out how to get rid of Jonathan Kaminga.
2:20:17
They move him in Buddy Hield, one of the great chuckers of the
2:20:21
last decade for Kristops Porzingis.
2:20:24
It's a great move, by the way. The entirety of the deal looks
2:20:28
like. That said, there's no other
2:20:29
picks involved in it. It's an expiring contract for
2:20:34
Porzingis. The Warriors commingas 5 season
2:20:38
tenure with the Golden States over it gives the Warriors a
2:20:41
veteran stretch center on his expiring $30.7 million contract.
2:20:47
He has this weird illness. Porzingis, we were talking
2:20:50
about. It's called POTS.
2:20:52
I don't know if you've ever heard of POTS.
2:20:54
Maybe Brittany knows a little bit more about this.
2:20:56
It stands for Post postural orthostatic tachycardia, which
2:21:00
is heart syndrome if I'm not mistaken.
2:21:03
I could be wrong about that, but it's about I know he has
2:21:05
problems with his feet. I know it's something with
2:21:07
circulation. I know he it's really hard for
2:21:10
him to be effective for long stretches.
2:21:13
So I don't know what they're getting out of him, but at the
2:21:16
same time, it's better than whatever they were getting out
2:21:18
of Kaminga, isn't it? I think they're getting a good
2:21:21
player and a player that can hit up a, you know, shoot a bunch of
2:21:24
threes. They're going to with playing
2:21:26
with a guy like Steph Curry, it's going to open up the court.
2:21:29
Playing in a triangle offense is going to make Porzingis a little
2:21:32
bit better. He actually played in a little
2:21:34
bit of the triangle offense when he was with the Knicks, so he
2:21:37
knows a little bit about this offense.
2:21:39
I think this is a good move for the Golden State Warriors.
2:21:41
Even if you get 12 to 13 points of Porzingis, you're going to
2:21:45
get or for Porzingis or when it comes to rebounding and blocks,
2:21:49
then you would get from Kamingo who didn't want to be there.
2:21:51
I think this is a good move for the Golden State Warriors if
2:21:53
they want to sneak into the playoffs and make some kind of
2:21:55
run. I think this is a good move for
2:21:58
for a one year deal for the Golden State Warriors, Not a
2:22:01
good deal for you know who. Hawks yeah, it's it's weird
2:22:06
because Trey Young they trade away another Oklahoma guy and
2:22:09
Buddy Heal they bring another Oklahoma guy that's just as much
2:22:11
of A streaky shooter as Trey Young is.
2:22:13
It was also turnover prone coming has been injury prone
2:22:15
and. What are the Hawks do it, yeah.
2:22:17
It seems like a middling team for a while that I just.
2:22:21
Think they got a good young player in Johnson, I mean.
2:22:23
Yeah, they have. They have a core that is rising,
2:22:26
but it seems like. This is a bad team.
2:22:29
They're missing something still and this is something I don't.
2:22:31
Think they're missing a lot I. Don't think this was the move to
2:22:33
do it. You're getting 2 very big
2:22:35
question marks here with the with the Hawks.
2:22:37
I think they're going to be stuck as a playing team again
2:22:39
this year. Porzingis to the Golden State.
2:22:40
Yeah, they've been eyeing A4 for a while.
2:22:43
I think they realize that Draymond Green is undersized for
2:22:45
a four at this in this today's NBA.
2:22:47
Like you could get away with it maybe 7-8 years ago when the
2:22:50
league was a little smaller. Now they're all these stretch
2:22:52
guys are in the in there and now they need somebody like
2:22:54
Porzingis. They keep them long term.
2:22:55
I don't think so, but at least it will help them try to elevate
2:22:58
them to another chance to not be a play in team and not have to
2:23:01
play those extra games. But Even so, will that be
2:23:04
enough? First of all, I mean the Hulks
2:23:06
full rebuild right? Yeah, the Hulks are terrible.
2:23:08
And now if I was Johnson, I want to get out of there too.
2:23:11
Trade me, Get Me Out of here. I don't want to be there.
2:23:14
So he's going to be their guy. They're going to Max him out.
2:23:17
We'll see what happens with the rest of the the Hawks.
2:23:20
I think I expect them to be tanking, right.
2:23:22
Let's go through the rest of the the other deals.
2:23:24
We'll get to the Nixon next Nets and what they did at the
2:23:27
deadline. Last one trade and one superiors
2:23:29
cut. But here's a list of the other
2:23:31
deals that happened. The Celtics traded for Nicola
2:23:34
Butschevich, they traded Anthony Anthony and Ferny Simons and a
2:23:40
second round pick. They got Simons from Portland
2:23:43
either a year ago or less or two years ago, I don't remember, but
2:23:47
it just didn't seem to be working over there.
2:23:50
They get a scoring center. Makes a lot of sense over there.
2:23:54
Another one, Chris Paul was on the move, but I don't think he's
2:23:57
reporting. This is probably it for Chris
2:23:58
Paul. Vu Savitch is a great move for
2:24:01
the Celtics. They added another big a good
2:24:03
offensive big. It makes them a lot better.
2:24:05
He's a he's a mean player. He's going to go up, he's going
2:24:08
to give you how hard fouls. I remember Vu Savitch.
2:24:11
I think he played for the the Orlando Magic for a while our.
2:24:14
Latest career? Yeah.
2:24:15
And I like Vu Savitch. I wanted him for the Knicks when
2:24:18
he became a free agent. The Knicks obviously didn't make
2:24:22
that move. I I like that move.
2:24:23
Logical Ball is going to be a free agent.
2:24:25
He's going to get waved. I he's going to choose where he
2:24:28
wants to go. Don't be surprised if he goes to
2:24:30
the Lakers again or he goes to the Golden State Warriors as a
2:24:33
backup point guard. That's what I think is going to
2:24:35
happen. He hasn't been healthy this
2:24:36
year, so I we'll see if he comes back and he's healthy.
2:24:40
If he is, if he does come back and he's healthy, he could be a
2:24:43
good option off the bench as the number 7 #8 guy.
2:24:46
So I I I probably go with that. Shay's got a abdominal injury.
2:24:51
He's going to be out till the All Star break.
2:24:53
McCain gives them a real point guard to run the offense while
2:24:57
he's out. He's McCain had that meniscus
2:25:00
injury after he started his rookie season super hot, super
2:25:03
hot from Duke. Like right out of the gate, he
2:25:06
was looking like he was going to be like a surprise rookie of the
2:25:08
year candidate. And you know, he got hurt.
2:25:11
It just didn't come back full strength.
2:25:13
I, I think the Thunder know what they're doing, man.
2:25:16
The Thunder know what they're doing.
2:25:18
This guy can play as a year ago people were talking about him as
2:25:21
like this can't miss guy going forwards and now the Thunder
2:25:24
just get him for a late first round pick.
2:25:26
Pretty wild. Let's get to the Knicks and the
2:25:29
Nets. The biggest one was the Knicks,
2:25:33
at least of the two of the teams, acquiring point guard
2:25:36
Jose Alvarado, Brooklyn native from the New Orleans Pelicans,
2:25:41
in exchange for Dalen Terry, 2 second round picks and cash.
2:25:46
This came right after the Knicks found out Miles McBride is going
2:25:49
to go under, undergo core muscle surgery.
2:25:52
He's out probably for the rest of the regular season with that
2:25:56
injury, or at least to the late season.
2:25:58
They don't know exactly yet, but they definitely needed to have
2:26:01
something else. They got Tyler Kolek there, but
2:26:03
Alvarado is a defensive whiz. Errol, I told you his nickname
2:26:07
earlier. They call him GTA Grand Theft.
2:26:11
Alvarado. And on the other side, the Nets,
2:26:15
curiously, simply just cut their top scorer from the last two
2:26:20
seasons, Cam Thomas. They hasn't been playing well
2:26:24
this year. But at the same time, I don't
2:26:26
know how you get nothing for a guy that was your arguably your
2:26:30
best player for two years. I love the Jose Alvarado move.
2:26:35
I love it. The Nicks have been trying to go
2:26:37
after him for the last two years.
2:26:38
He was their number one guy. They were going after him at the
2:26:40
trade deadline. Everybody thought it was Yannis.
2:26:42
It was Alvarado. Alvarado was from Brooklyn.
2:26:45
He's a scrapper. He's a great defender.
2:26:47
He's going to get up on you. He's going to put a lot of
2:26:49
pressure on you. He can shoot threes.
2:26:52
He's he's a clips guy. He's a guy that's going to go
2:26:55
out there and he's going to do something in a game that you're
2:26:57
going to remember him, you know, in the playoffs.
2:26:59
So you're going to remember him during the season.
2:27:01
I think he's fun to watch. I think he's going to be
2:27:03
explosive for the Knicks and remember McBride could be out
2:27:06
until the playoffs. So he's going to fill in for
2:27:08
McBride. He's going to give them that
2:27:09
depth that they need off the bench and he might eventually
2:27:12
get that six man off the bench over Kolek.
2:27:15
He he's that kind of guy and he's always wanted to play New
2:27:18
York. He grew up a New York Knicks
2:27:20
fan. He grew up.
2:27:21
If I'm not a Pablo Priggione thing, I think I think it was.
2:27:27
Pablo, Pablo. Yeah, so I think he was.
2:27:30
He grew up a Pablo Priggione fan, so he's always loved the
2:27:34
New York Knicks. And now he gets a chance to play
2:27:36
at home in front of his family, in front of the fans.
2:27:39
Madison Square Garden is the place to be.
2:27:41
And, and he said it. He didn't know this was going to
2:27:43
happen. He said it and he said it that
2:27:46
it was a lot of back and forth, but he didn't think this was
2:27:49
going to get done. And me and Speedy were talking
2:27:51
about it. When the Knicks made that move
2:27:54
yesterday, I said they're going to use that guy to cuz I, I
2:27:58
never even heard of this guy, Dak or back, whatever his name
2:28:01
is. They moved him and a in a couple
2:28:03
of draft picks. They gave up nothing for a guy
2:28:06
like Jose Alvarado and Jose Alvarado has the ability to do a
2:28:10
lot of things that the Knicks have needed in the playoffs
2:28:12
needed against the Indiana Pacers.
2:28:14
And now they got that that guy explosive defensive player and
2:28:17
option in the Mike Brown defense.
2:28:19
So Lovett as far as the Cam Thomas move, I I don't if he
2:28:23
clears waivers, I think the Knicks should definitely look at
2:28:25
him. I think he stays in the
2:28:27
tri-state area. The Knicks could use another
2:28:29
offensive option off the bench, Cam Thomas.
2:28:31
The fact that they they put him on waivers makes no sense.
2:28:34
I don't really think he wanted to be there.
2:28:36
And now whoever picks him up off a waivers, they're going to get
2:28:39
themselves, I think a good offensive option.
2:28:41
So they'll be teams lining up for him if if he if he passes
2:28:44
waivers, there is I, I think the Knicks should absolutely sign
2:28:46
him. Yeah, he's a scorer that has
2:28:48
been in Volume 2 and also can just score efficiently as well.
2:28:52
He had a bad year this year, Understandable.
2:28:53
But again, you're in a bad situation with the Nets right
2:28:56
now. They have not much young players
2:28:58
around him and against between the injuries and all that, it's
2:29:00
going to wear out and all the coaching changes the Nets have
2:29:02
had, it's it. It's good for a fresh start
2:29:05
somewhere else. He came from Phoenix obviously
2:29:06
was a good part a good bench player off the off the bench
2:29:09
with the OR not. I should say that he was a LSUI
2:29:13
should say he was a good player scorer over there.
2:29:15
And I think with the Nets, I think they're just going in
2:29:17
another direction. I'm surprised they cut him
2:29:19
directly. I was surprised they just wait
2:29:21
it out and then maybe try to sign and deal him in the
2:29:23
offseason. It's just kind of surprising.
2:29:25
But the Knicks I I love the Alvarado move.
2:29:27
He's fast too like this is a guy that moves up and down the court
2:29:30
very well. I think explosive.
2:29:32
You mentioned good defender and good floor spacer.
2:29:34
I think when he does the. Ball, He wants to be here.
2:29:37
That's the thing when you have a player that wants to be here,
2:29:41
wants to play for this team, his hometown, his family.
2:29:44
Brooklyn native. This is a great move for the
2:29:47
Knicks and another Leon Leon Rose move.
2:29:50
If you're a Knick fan, you should love what Leon Rose is
2:29:52
doing. He's doing everything right and
2:29:54
he's keeping it pretty simple. He's going after guys that think
2:29:58
he thinks will fit this team on a playoff run and the Knicks
2:30:02
have a chance to win. They decided to stick with the
2:30:04
same guys they didn't want to make and go crazy with the
2:30:07
Giannis move. They'll wait until the
2:30:08
offseason. If this team fails to win a
2:30:10
championship or get into the Finals, I could see a Giannis
2:30:13
move some way or another in the offseason.
2:30:16
Yeah, and again, you look at the Knicks, they're trying to move
2:30:18
all these extra picks around, too.
2:30:20
And you're right, Terry was never going to stay with them.
2:30:22
You told me earlier he was just a.
2:30:24
Piece. I didn't even know who he was.
2:30:26
I remember him being drafted. He was out of Stanford.
2:30:28
He was a good player in college on a really bad team and I think
2:30:32
Dallas drafted him in the second round.
2:30:33
When I heard they made a trade with, you know, obviously moved
2:30:36
him, I, I had no idea, but I said speedy, I, I wouldn't be
2:30:39
surprised if they're going to move him in the trade.
2:30:41
And, and we were talking about in a 4 minutes later it was
2:30:44
posted that they used him in the trade to get Alvarado.
2:30:47
And he's, as you said, that that's what they were going to
2:30:49
do and that that was probably what they were trying to do.
2:30:52
And by the way, they get rid of what's his name against Contra
2:30:56
Shelley. So they got rid of his contract.
2:30:58
So it benefits the New York Knicks in the offseason if they
2:31:01
try to bring in some free agents.
2:31:02
And Alvarado has a player option next year.
2:31:05
So you know he will take that player option, stay in New York
2:31:08
where he's from. So I think it works both for the
2:31:12
Knicks and Alvarado. It's a.
2:31:13
Slim I love, I love Leon Rose Arrow.
2:31:15
This guy, if look, he obviously didn't work out.
2:31:19
A lot of teams will hold on to their guys too long.
2:31:22
They'll get nothing for them. Look at the Nets.
2:31:24
They're they're best player. They got nothing for him.
2:31:27
He looks at Yabisa's like, oh, I could turn that into something
2:31:30
that I can turn into Jose Alvarado.
2:31:32
That's the difference between a good organization, a bad
2:31:34
organization. I I'm so happy that the Knicks
2:31:37
have Leon Rose that I get to actually root for a good well
2:31:40
run organization. What I'm seeing from the Nets is
2:31:42
what I saw from the Knicks the last 20 years.
2:31:44
That's it's just embarrassing. That can't happen.
2:31:48
That's a fireable offense in my opinion.
2:31:49
And everybody out there that couldn't stand the move to bring
2:31:53
Leon Rose in because he is an agent.
2:31:56
It doesn't make sense. He brought in Worldwide W, he
2:31:58
brought in his own GM. He put it all together and
2:32:02
they're all working together hand, hand in hand.
2:32:04
And you can see this team and this organization is moving in
2:32:08
the right direction, something that this organization has not
2:32:11
been since Pat Riley and Jeff Van Gundy.
2:32:14
It's been a long, long time that this organization actually has a
2:32:18
competing guy running their organization.
2:32:20
This is a great, great move for the New York Knicks.
2:32:22
And if you're a Nick fan, you should be excited.
2:32:24
And if you're Alvarado he, you're going to see him.
2:32:28
He's a good performer. He gives you about 7 or 9 points
2:32:31
off the bench. Kenny.
2:32:33
Kenny Smith was talking about it today on ESPN.
2:32:36
He said when you get a chance to go home and play in front of
2:32:39
your home fans and your family, you're a different player.
2:32:41
You get to play in Madison Square Garden with a team that's
2:32:44
a playoff team. You're leaving a team, the
2:32:46
Pelicans that weren't even close to making the playoffs.
2:32:48
They're a terrible organization. And now you're going to an
2:32:50
organization that has a chance to win a championship.
2:32:53
You could be a completely different player.
2:32:55
And the Knicks need a point guard, a shutdown point guard
2:32:58
that can defend and be a Nat. This is the guy that is a Nat at
2:33:03
the point guard position. He'll get on to you.
2:33:05
He'll disturb you. He'll get he'll make you make
2:33:08
your life a royal hell the whole game and he will run up on you
2:33:12
and be a, a really a flea and he'll try to bite you and bite
2:33:15
you and bite you until you, you know, fly, swat him off, fly
2:33:18
swat him off. I think he's a great move for
2:33:21
the New York Knicks and a great, great, great.
2:33:24
And here's another thing that I I was looking at too with this.
2:33:27
He has a player option back to what I was saying, they can
2:33:30
bring him back next year, which you know he's going to take the
2:33:33
player option. They you know he is and they
2:33:36
still can get Dante Di Vicenzo, who's going to be a free agent
2:33:39
in the offseason. And trust me, that's what the
2:33:41
Knicks are gunning for in the offseason.
2:33:43
They'll move if this fail, if this team fails, they'll move to
2:33:47
get Giannis and they'll still bring in Dante Di Vicenzo
2:33:51
another another guy that played with the villain over Knicks.
2:33:54
So I, I think it'll make a lot of sense in the offseason and
2:33:57
you still have José José there. So I think it's a great move for
2:34:01
the Knicks. Slam dunk for Leon Rose.
2:34:03
And if you were to ask me right now who won the trade deadline,
2:34:07
the Knicks are a top three right now.
2:34:09
I mean, they got a guy that's going to be competent, could be
2:34:12
a six man, 7th man off the bench and play plays a big part of the
2:34:15
Knicks playing the Celtics in the second round because that's
2:34:19
where they'll be matched up against in the second.
2:34:21
If the season were to end right now, the Knicks playing at 2 and
2:34:24
the Celtics at 3:00, there's a very good chance the Knicks
2:34:26
would be playing the Celtics in the second round.
2:34:28
So. Yeah, and the Knicks get a guy
2:34:32
that in Alvarado too, that was a good leader of a a Pelican
2:34:35
second unit. A younger Drew Holiday.
2:34:36
Yeah, that's what I think He. Yeah, a younger, a younger team.
2:34:39
When the Pelicans first got CJ McCollum and a couple of those
2:34:42
other guys and they were making the playoffs a couple times, he
2:34:44
was the leader of that second unit that was actually a
2:34:47
relatively good bench with with Herb Jones, Larry Nance, junior.
2:34:50
And he was the he was the guy that was now again, he was not
2:34:53
scoring on the same clip the last two years as he was in his
2:34:55
previous in his career where he was prolific attacking the ball
2:34:59
hoop guy, not an amazing shooter, but could suit
2:35:01
efficiently. And I think the way he spaces
2:35:04
the floor and on both sides of the ball is something that the
2:35:07
Knicks definitely need. Because you're not saying that
2:35:09
obviously with Jordan. Clark because we were hearing,
2:35:11
we were hearing Drew Holiday. That's what we were hearing.
2:35:13
And he's an older version of Alvarado.
2:35:17
And Alvarado can give you that kind of defense.
2:35:21
He can give you that that prominent offense, especially
2:35:24
shooting. The guy could shoot threes and
2:35:26
he could spread out. He could, you can use them and
2:35:29
spread it and spread the offense out on the perimeter.
2:35:31
And he's very fast. Like Speedy said, he can get to
2:35:34
the hole as quick as anybody. And, and you, you might see him
2:35:38
play with Jalen Brunson on some plays.
2:35:40
So you might have the opportunity to see a very fast
2:35:43
pace. And that's what Mike Brown wants
2:35:44
to do. He wants to play the game fast.
2:35:47
He fits like a glove in the Mike Brown offense.
2:35:49
I love it too because I love Josh Hart and he's been out for
2:35:54
a while and they've been going on this run of like 5-6 games in
2:35:57
a row without him. It's like if you put Josh Hart
2:36:01
at point guard, he would play like Alvarado Place.
2:36:04
It's just you're running around like reckless, abandoned, just
2:36:07
harassing everybody and then explosive to the whole you don't
2:36:12
hit the shot, whatever, take the foul, get the foul shots.
2:36:15
It's just more possessions for us and I love guys that play
2:36:18
that way. And look, now you can again
2:36:21
reduce Brunsons minutes even more as we get into the
2:36:24
second-half of the season. Keep him fresh so that he can
2:36:28
hit those shots at the end of the games in the playoffs.
2:36:30
That's all that matters. You know he's capable.
2:36:32
He just got to keep him fresh. Tibbs never did.
2:36:34
This is a very different type of situation they're going into
2:36:37
this year because of how much depth they have, and I just
2:36:40
can't wait to see Brunson fresh for the first time in the
2:36:43
playoffs this year. It's going to be great.
2:36:45
And I, I think they needed Alvarado for last year against
2:36:48
the Indiana Pacers because they had a lot of guard play and,
2:36:51
and, and they're two competent point guards And the Knicks
2:36:55
didn't, they couldn't guard Halliburton, they couldn't guard
2:36:58
any of the guards. And, and now you see what
2:37:00
they're doing, You see what Indiana's doing.
2:37:02
They're they're practically giving up on the season and
2:37:04
that's what you're seeing. And they'll be back next year,
2:37:07
ladies and gentlemen. So if the Knicks have a chance
2:37:09
to win a championship, it is now.
2:37:11
It is now. And by the way, Indiana made a
2:37:14
good move, too. They added a big.
2:37:15
Yeah, I was just going to say there was, I left one out, the
2:37:18
Benedict Matheran one for Zubach.
2:37:21
Zubach is is going to be a play a big dividends next year when
2:37:25
Hal Burton comes back because it adds a big they lost a big in
2:37:29
free agency. What was it a year and a half
2:37:31
ago and he goes to the Milwaukee, Milwaukee hockey
2:37:34
Bucks and and now they add a guy that can rebound.
2:37:38
He can he can score, he can do a lot of things that they were
2:37:41
missing in the playoffs last year and losing a great 3 point
2:37:46
shooter. That was a big part of their
2:37:47
offense and a big part of their run last year, especially
2:37:50
against the Knicks. That was that was interesting
2:37:53
too. But I think he's a free agent
2:37:54
after this year. So they could actually re sign
2:37:57
him. Isn't he a free agent?
2:37:58
Yeah, yeah. I think what was it, a two year?
2:38:01
No, I think he's a free agent, I think.
2:38:04
How do you pronounce his name? Matheran.
2:38:06
Matheran, I think. Oh no, you're right, 22.
2:38:08
Drive he is a free. Agent, I think it's restricted
2:38:12
free agent, but he's going to be a free agent for sure.
2:38:14
Yeah. And I think I could see Indiana
2:38:16
bringing it back next year. I could see them doing that.
2:38:19
They getting Zubov, Zubov and and get somebody like they get
2:38:23
the big that they need. And now they have Hal Burton
2:38:25
coming back next year. Watch out for Indiana.
2:38:27
I think Indiana will be really, really good.
2:38:28
They got a great coach and a very good organization.
2:38:31
There's just they're not winning this year.
2:38:33
I think they practically gave up on the season in, you know, the
2:38:37
last couple of weeks. So but they're still going to
2:38:39
fight and they might sneak in as a play in team, But I I don't
2:38:43
think Indiana's any good. I think they're looking towards
2:38:45
the draft and getting better in the draft.
2:38:47
All right, ladies and gentlemen, we call this Let's Parley.
2:38:59
It's time for Let's Parley. We have Chaz coming in.
2:39:05
He was supposed to come in. I'm texting him now to come in.
2:39:07
All right. I thought he was going to join.
2:39:09
We got Reno Johnny in and if you don't know how this game is
2:39:13
played, it's pretty simple what we're going to do.
2:39:15
Hopefully Chaz will pop in, they're going to give you their
2:39:18
top three picks of the week, and then they're going to give you
2:39:21
one more for their parlay and here comes Chaz.
2:39:23
Let's bring them in. So we're going to go Chaz first,
2:39:27
then Reno Johnny, and they're going to give you 4 picks and
2:39:30
the last one will be their parlay.
2:39:32
You guys ready? I am ready, Arrow.
2:39:36
Who's your lean on this game? On what the the Patriots in
2:39:39
Seattle? Seattle.
2:39:40
Talk in the Super Bowl. All right, yeah, I got Seattle
2:39:43
winning this game. I think they're obviously
2:39:45
they've got the defense, they got the secondary.
2:39:47
They're going to play one-on-one man against.
2:39:49
To me, the Patriots have one wide receiver in digs and and
2:39:53
what they're going to do is they're going to shut him down
2:39:55
and they're going to try to make them and force them to run the
2:39:57
ball and use things, use offensive.
2:40:00
You know they're the Henderson they're going to use.
2:40:04
You know, Stevenson a little bit more, they might even use him as
2:40:06
a pair out on the field to try to open up the offense.
2:40:09
And Drake May's going to have to make passes against a very good
2:40:12
secondary. I think.
2:40:13
I just think Seattle's just built to win a championship this
2:40:17
year. And Sam Donald, as long as he
2:40:18
doesn't get himself into Trump but doesn't throw any
2:40:21
interceptions and make mistakes, I think Seattle will run away
2:40:24
with this game. I think Seattle wins by 10,
2:40:26
maybe even 12 in this game. There's very few times in my
2:40:29
life to humanize words. I could actually just go home
2:40:32
now you just said everything I was going to say.
2:40:34
But So what I'm doing is I'm doing 4.
2:40:36
I hit it last week. It was 30 to 1.
2:40:39
I hit a four team anytime touchdown and I'm going to try
2:40:43
to do it again and and guess who I'm starting with?
2:40:45
JSN. All right, so his.
2:40:47
His. I mean, do I need to say more?
2:40:48
No, no, no. And I think JSN, I think JSM is
2:40:51
going to get of 100 yards in this game, even against Gonzalez
2:40:54
because what they're going to do with JSN is they're going to
2:40:57
move them all over for the field.
2:40:58
Gonzalez is going to play one-on-one with JSN.
2:41:02
Gonzalez has never played one-on-one all season against
2:41:05
probably the second best wide receiver, if you could argue the
2:41:08
best wide receiver in the league.
2:41:09
So and again, the Patriots had one of the easiest schedules in
2:41:13
the NFL. They played against The Jets.
2:41:15
Garrett Wilson was hurt practically the whole season.
2:41:17
So Gonzalez barely he played, I think he played them once this
2:41:20
year. And Miami, they they lost Tyree
2:41:23
Kill and Jaden Waddle was up and down all season because he
2:41:26
wasn't 100% healthy. So so the he really and and and
2:41:30
Buffalo doesn't have a number one wide receiver.
2:41:32
So they played in a division that really barely had
2:41:36
playmaker. So this guy is as good a
2:41:39
playmaker as anybody in a league.
2:41:40
So I agree with you. JSM is going to get a touchdown
2:41:43
in this game. All right, Reno, Johnny, give us
2:41:46
your first. Yeah.
2:41:48
So I'll start off by saying no disrespect to my team colleagues
2:41:55
here, but I don't like the fact that I'm going to agree with a
2:41:59
lot of what y'all said. I will preface this by saying
2:42:02
I'm 16 and three since 2007. The last 19 Super Bowls ATS.
2:42:08
I'm really good at the Super Bowl.
2:42:11
All three losses involve games that the Patriots are in.
2:42:15
I took them both times against the Giants and I took them.
2:42:18
I took the Falcons against the Patriots.
2:42:20
So that being said, I do not see a way this game is close.
2:42:25
I think we're kind of going to be in blowout territory.
2:42:28
I look at Drake May as maybe he's going to find out that he
2:42:32
just isn't ready. Mike McDonald defenses are
2:42:35
absolutely phenomenal against quarterbacks under 24.
2:42:39
I believe they're like one in eight overall, six straight
2:42:42
losses by quarterbacks under 24, one touchdown, 8 interceptions.
2:42:48
In those games, you're going to make him throw the ball because
2:42:51
I think that the Seattle defense will be able to stifle the
2:42:54
Patriots running game. That being said, I think this
2:42:57
game's going to come down to Sam Darnell.
2:42:59
Does he make mistakes? Does he see ghosts out there?
2:43:03
I think not. This is probably one of the best
2:43:05
stories of redemption. You got a guy that was on The
2:43:08
Jets that was thrown away to the Panthers, that went to the
2:43:11
Vikings, and even the Vikings said we're going to go to Mike
2:43:15
McCarthy, get rid of him and he goes to Mike McDonald team and
2:43:18
they go to the Super Bowl at 14 and 3.
2:43:21
This is an ultimate story of redemption.
2:43:23
Now, I hate that it's 4 1/2. I just don't see a way because
2:43:27
one of the situations where if you look at all the money going
2:43:29
in, all the tickets going in, 80% of jackasses like y'all and
2:43:36
myself think the Seahawks are going to run away with this
2:43:39
game. That's typically not a side I
2:43:41
want to be on because I just feel like the public is never
2:43:45
right. But I do have a couple of
2:43:47
connections over there, sharp players, respected by the books
2:43:51
who are also on the Seahawks now.
2:43:54
Why hasn't the line moved? That worries me a little bit.
2:43:57
I just think this game is going to be a mismatch for Drake, man.
2:44:01
I do think the Seahawks defense is as good and you will not win
2:44:06
this game if you score 10 points.
2:44:08
If you score one offensive touchdown because you get a muff
2:44:10
punt, you will not win this game.
2:44:12
You're going to have to put up more points.
2:44:13
I don't think they do it. Give me the Seahawks.
2:44:16
I'm going to lay the four and a half.
2:44:18
I do think they blow this game open.
2:44:21
All right, Chaz, give us your number 2.
2:44:25
All right, so yeah, I've got a lot of circles here in front of
2:44:31
you, but I'm going to go with Walker any time touchdown.
2:44:34
So again, what you know, the first two I got there, the team,
2:44:38
he just said. I I agree with you.
2:44:41
I think Walker gets a touchdown in this game.
2:44:43
I think they're going to be able to run the ball.
2:44:45
Everybody knows the Patriots had one of the best run defenses.
2:44:48
I think they were second. Jacksonville was #1 yeah.
2:44:51
Boy ever corrected us last week. So the Patriots were #2 but the
2:44:56
Patriots are very good stop in the run.
2:44:57
What they're going to do, and I believe what what Seattle is
2:45:00
going to do is they going to open up the offense with Najiba
2:45:03
and and Barner. They're going to be able to open
2:45:05
it up. And what they're going to do is
2:45:06
going to leave gaps. And this is a good offensive
2:45:09
line. Seattle is a very good offensive
2:45:10
line. And they're very good running
2:45:12
team. And I, I think Walker is very
2:45:14
elusive. You, you saw it against a very
2:45:17
good run stopping team in the Rams this year, except in the
2:45:20
last four games of the season and throughout the playoffs.
2:45:22
I, I, I think they're going to be able to run in this game and
2:45:25
I think they're going to open up the game.
2:45:26
So I, I agree with you, Chaz, I think Walker scores a touchdown
2:45:29
on the goal line. All right, you know, Johnny,
2:45:32
give us your number 2. I think a lot of people are
2:45:35
talking about JSM, just Gray. He's on my, I have a dynasty
2:45:37
fantasy league. I have him as one of our
2:45:40
receivers who was number draft pick #8 or something and another
2:45:43
one of my leagues. I think he's great.
2:45:45
I think AJ Farmers come on strong, but I think we forget
2:45:48
about the little great White Cope and Cooper Cup.
2:45:50
Remember this guy is a Super Bowl experienced receiver and
2:45:53
you forget about him. I think with Walker being A1
2:45:57
back now because you do not have Charbonnet, you're going to try
2:46:00
to extend the running game away. And the way you do that is you
2:46:03
actually you get Cooper Cup in the slot, move around a little
2:46:06
bit, you're going to get a lot of attention on JSN deservingly
2:46:10
so you're going to forget. But I think Cooper Cup is going
2:46:13
to be that guy in 3rd and four, third and five.
2:46:16
He's going to be the security blanket.
2:46:18
He's going to step into the extension of the run game.
2:46:20
He's going to be a guy that's going to get targets.
2:46:23
I do think he's going to go over 33 1/2 passing a receiving
2:46:26
yards. I just think that he's going to
2:46:28
be used and he's going to have enough pieces around him where
2:46:31
he kind of, you forget that this guy has played in the Super
2:46:34
Bowl, has had a lot of success in the Super Bowl.
2:46:37
He's been in this moment. And if a quarterback like Sam
2:46:40
Darnell, who's probably shitting his pants a little bit, biggest
2:46:43
game of his career, total redemption moment.
2:46:46
I think Cooper Cup is going to be that guy to settle him down
2:46:49
and know that he's there for him.
2:46:50
I think 3rd 3 1/2 passing yards is is very doable.
2:46:54
He's had this in three last four games for the last five games.
2:46:57
Give me Cooper Cup over 33 1/2 passing overseeing yards.
2:47:01
All right, Mr. Chaz, give us your #3.
2:47:05
OK, one thing I think he he he was so superlative about the
2:47:10
company on the rest of the understated well, I mean, he was
2:47:13
freaking MVP. He didn't have a good game.
2:47:15
He was an MVP. What is a receiver an MVP the
2:47:18
quarterback after right? Am I right?
2:47:21
If the if the if you have a free game almost always.
2:47:23
So, so he, he came off the field the AFC or NFC championship and
2:47:29
Bobo got the touchdown, right. And I had cup in the parlay.
2:47:33
And then later, because we kept saying Cups got a play in the
2:47:35
playoffs. You know it, you got a young
2:47:36
quarterback, you got a guy that's been there and we need
2:47:39
him. And another touchdown got us to
2:47:40
parlay. So I got Henderson.
2:47:42
I think New England's going to score a touchdown and I think
2:47:45
Henderson's going to get one. I will say this, and I do
2:47:47
believe this is going to be a defensive game.
2:47:49
I could see I could see Drake May throwing an interception and
2:47:53
fumbling the ball once in this game.
2:47:54
So if if there's anything on that turnovers, I think they'll
2:47:58
be a fumble in an interception by the Patriots.
2:48:00
And I think Sam Darnold will throw an interception in this
2:48:03
game, but it's. Not you know, one of the plays I
2:48:06
always make is there will be a special team or a defensive
2:48:09
touchdown and their fricking refs stole it from me.
2:48:12
Fuck your whistle up man. That was a fricking touchdown.
2:48:14
I had a ticket in my hand was worth 75 bucks I was so pissed.
2:48:19
I will have that again this game.
2:48:21
All right, Reno, Johnny, give us your #3.
2:48:23
It's kind of cheap, but I'm going to, I'm going to stick
2:48:25
with Cooper Cup and take his receptions.
2:48:27
I just think he's going to have enough targets and we can kind
2:48:30
of split the difference. If he doesn't get, if he has,
2:48:32
you know, 4 catches that are all 6-7 yards, then I do think I'll
2:48:36
still get over that catch radius.
2:48:38
I'm working and I'm live right now.
2:48:40
Give me one second. I do think that it's kind of a
2:48:44
cheap way to do it. It's a way to kind of double up.
2:48:45
I do. I just think Cooper comes to be
2:48:47
a big part of this game plan. I think we're going to
2:48:49
forgetting about it because we have JSN.
2:48:52
Give me Cooper Cup, the other prop that I like form and I got
2:48:55
another. I'm going to go on a Patriots on
2:48:57
my next, my next, my next one. All right, so that way.
2:49:01
All right, your final, your parlay, Jazz, what do you got?
2:49:04
I got to, again, I'm going to pat him on the back.
2:49:07
I know the guy a long time and he's gonna get a handicapper.
2:49:10
But really, if you like something like that, why not go
2:49:13
with both of them? It's stupid not to almost.
2:49:16
You know, what you're saying is if you think it's going to be
2:49:18
over 33, that he's going to have a big play.
2:49:21
But 33 isn't a big play number, right?
2:49:24
79 is a big play #33 is, you know, you're playing the
2:49:28
football game. And yeah, I just love both of
2:49:30
those props. All right, so here's what I got.
2:49:33
Seattle calls it right because they're the way team, aren't
2:49:35
they? OK, they lose it.
2:49:38
The New England, the first. He could go.
2:49:40
Oh, no way. It'll be my second time I've won
2:49:43
the Super Bowl. I'm the first player to score in
2:49:46
the opening kickoff. So who do you think I got?
2:49:50
You got. Marcus Jones, I guess.
2:49:53
Marcus Jones shade. Oh, Shaheed from the Seahawks.
2:49:55
There you go. All right.
2:49:56
Won't he be getting the kickoff? Yes, he was.
2:49:58
Yes, he. Won't he be running very fast?
2:50:02
He's got to hope that they don't tackle.
2:50:04
He's been some weapons since the trade deadline when they made
2:50:06
that move. He he really has been and he's
2:50:08
been something of a blanket for Sam Donald in in the playoffs.
2:50:13
So he's been. I can cash 2 tickets with him
2:50:18
because that's the special teams or defensive touchdown that I'm
2:50:21
looking for as well. And you know he can do it
2:50:23
anytime he touches the ball. Yes, I won't have him for for I
2:50:27
may know I'll have him in the partly for anytime but I will
2:50:30
have him for first also. All right, Reno, Johnny, give us
2:50:34
your final pick of the night. Here's what I do think that's
2:50:39
going to be kind of against the grain.
2:50:41
I like both teams to record an interception.
2:50:44
Now I look, I think the Seahawks will run away with this game.
2:50:47
I think they will get Drake man, throw an interception.
2:50:50
He's 23 years old. He is not ready for this moment.
2:50:53
They played a weak schedule. They played my middle school
2:50:55
coach football team schedule. I'm not impressed by it.
2:50:58
He's a throw interception. But what I do know about
2:51:00
Sandarno is he will also make a mistake.
2:51:02
Now the team is good enough to bounce back from that.
2:51:05
I do think a + 185 getting a lot of value on 2 quarterbacks, one
2:51:10
with the gross inexperience and one that's really had a rocky
2:51:13
career at best, both throw interception you're getting plus
2:51:17
almost 2 to one to it. I think this game is a blow up
2:51:19
by the Seahawks, but maybe an early turnover by Sam Garneau
2:51:23
before he gets his footing right.
2:51:24
But again, I'm making my biggest play of the year.
2:51:27
Seahawks -4.5 is my biggest Super Bowl play I've ever made
2:51:32
actually. So I'm actually, I'm going to be
2:51:34
shinning some bricks on Sunday, but I'm that confident that they
2:51:37
do blow it out again. If we come here next week and
2:51:41
the Patriots win, I'm going to blame the fact that everybody on
2:51:44
this show is on the same side, and that's just never a good.
2:51:48
Side In my defense, I also sell Patriot football, so I'm good
2:51:52
either way. Boys, we really appreciate your
2:51:55
time. Enjoy the football, enjoy the.
2:51:57
Super well, enjoy the weekend, enjoy the game.
2:51:59
Hopefully you all have a wonderful game.
2:52:00
Always be cashing. Good luck guys.
2:52:02
Reno, Johnny and his son and the one we call Chaz fantastic as
2:52:08
always, always great giving us their picks and and these guys
2:52:12
know what they're talking about and and on the weekend crunch,
2:52:15
they're like at 77% right now since the beginning of the year.
2:52:19
They're they're always so fantastic with their picks and
2:52:23
they give you 3-4 picks a week and and they're going to give
2:52:26
you a chance to win some money. And that's what we're doing.
2:52:28
That's why we do these handicap, this handicap segment to kind of
2:52:32
draw you guys in to to bet on their picks.
2:52:35
So thank you to Chaz and Reno Johnny.
2:52:37
When we come back, ladies and gentlemen, we have the NFL whip
2:52:40
around. King of the Hill.
2:52:42
Panarin is now gone as he is was fleeced from the New York
2:52:47
Rangers to the Kings. He's heading over there to LA.
2:52:51
There may be to win a Stanley Cup, we'll see.
2:52:53
I mean, LA is a good young team, great goaltending.
2:52:56
I'm interested to see how he works over there.
2:52:57
Panarin. And what's that smell?
2:52:59
But first, our sports minute. This is the Jabba and the Mouth
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2:53:10
here with your sportsman. A couple more stories before we
2:53:12
get into the scores tonight. In a story I had to read twice
2:53:15
to believe, former Lakers point guard and I'll fated Knicks head
2:53:19
coach Derek Fisher and his wife were involved in an altercation
2:53:24
during a high school basketball game Fisher was coaching,
2:53:27
leading to the ejection of his wife, Gloria Govan.
2:53:30
Govan, who has two kids on the team from her previous
2:53:33
relationship with Matt Barnes, Fisher's former teammate with
2:53:37
the Lakers. Apparently midway through the
2:53:39
second quarter, Fisher and opposing coach Matt Sargent got
2:53:42
into an argument that caused officials to pause the game,
2:53:45
giving each coach a warning. Fishers wife then came in from
2:53:49
the top rope yelling at Sergeant.
2:53:51
Hurling insults like that Ozempic got your brain fogged
2:53:54
up. That was caught on a now viral
2:53:57
video circulating on X and all the other social media.
2:54:00
Sergeant went to the official and then the official talked
2:54:03
with Fisher about ejecting his wife from the gym.
2:54:06
The video on X shows Fisher, the official and the ad meeting and
2:54:09
shaking hands before removing Miss Govan from the gym
2:54:14
gymnasium. Apparently basketball wives LA
2:54:17
stars reputation precedes her and no one, including Fisher,
2:54:22
was surprised by the rest of what happened.
2:54:25
Her ex-husband Matt Barnes, who was awarded full custody of the
2:54:29
two kids on the team, was ejected last year for yelling at
2:54:33
a game as well. Fisher, who you may remember as
2:54:35
the lamb Phil Jackson put up to the slaughter as Knicks coach
2:54:38
last decade before his personal life got messy, with what we're
2:54:41
still seeing happening apparently just a classic tale
2:54:46
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Wednesday, Floyd Mayweather Junior is suing Showtime
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Networks Incorporated for a reported $340 million.
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According to Mayweather's camp, the money is owed due to a
2:55:01
complex web of hidden accounts, unauthorized transactions, and
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deliberate concealment of financial records by Showtime.
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Mayweather, who retired in 2017 with A50 and O record and earned
2:55:14
approximately $1.2 billion in career earnings, is claiming
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Showtime stole approximately 1/4 of that huge sum.
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The lawsuit claims that the funds were diverted by Showtime,
2:55:25
Mayweather's former manager and advisor Al Heyman and Steven
2:55:28
Espinoza, who is the former president of Showtime Sports.
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The suit reads that Mayweather looks to recover hundreds of
2:55:34
millions of dollars and misappropriated funds and
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damages resulting from a long running and elaborate scheme of
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financial fraud, breaches of fiduciary duty and conspiracy
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Okay guys, welcome back to the Whip Around the Giants.
2:57:56
We're going to start with the Giants and Jets.
2:57:58
We've mentioned it already tonight when we had Howard Cross
2:58:00
on. The Giants have hired former
2:58:03
Bears head coach and most recently offensive coordinator
2:58:07
of the Kansas City Chiefs, Matt Nagy as their offensive
2:58:10
coordinator and Errol. In the last hour, news came in
2:58:14
that the Giants have also hired Greg Roman to a yet undecided
2:58:19
role as probably an assistant offensive head coach and run
2:58:23
game coordinator would be my guess.
2:58:25
And they are going to kind of go with both of those this.
2:58:29
Is very jet like. What are the Giants doing right
2:58:34
now? If you don't think that Matt
2:58:35
Nagy is the guy, why would you bring Roman in?
2:58:37
It makes no sense. It really doesn't.
2:58:40
I don't care what you Giant fans are saying.
2:58:42
Kingsbury was the guy. He was the guy he interviewed
2:58:46
twice and you didn't hire him and then you bring in Matt Nagy.
2:58:49
I understand John John, John Harpel has a connection with
2:58:53
Andy Reid. This doesn't make sense.
2:58:55
And it now you have Matt Nagy and Roman calling plays or you
2:59:00
don't know who's going to call plays.
2:59:01
This is the same thing the New York Jets did when Robert Sala
2:59:05
was there. It doesn't make sense.
2:59:08
So this is an absolute failure. I think this is this is, but
2:59:12
this is going to this is what tells me this is sayonara to Joe
2:59:16
Shane at the end of the season. I do not see this working at
2:59:20
all. Matt Nagy won't be there.
2:59:21
Roman won't be there. John Horrible will be there
2:59:24
because he's getting paid a lot of money.
2:59:25
This. This isn't going to.
2:59:26
Work When Matt Nagy got hired as the Bears head coach at the
2:59:28
time, his first year, it looked pretty good.
2:59:30
The concepts he was and he's got really stale I think after Year
2:59:33
2 and obviously the whole feud with Fields and that's why he
2:59:36
got fired and it just really doesn't work.
2:59:39
I don't think his offense has really gotten been that
2:59:40
innovative. I think outside of maybe the
2:59:42
five games of the beginning of the year with the Chiefs when
2:59:43
they actually had everyone hurt, I don't think he really got
2:59:46
speedy. Bad.
2:59:47
You're a giant fan. You're bringing in two offensive
2:59:50
coordinators sharing the play calling.
2:59:52
Does this make sense to? You.
2:59:53
Yeah, Greg and Greg and Greg Roman, like he kind of
2:59:56
contradicts himself too, where he went past happy in the
2:59:59
beginning of the year and then stopped doing that.
3:00:01
Once his running backs got hurt. This tells me that John Harbaugh
3:00:04
has no game plan. That's what it tells me, ladies
3:00:07
and gentlemen. That's all I'm.
3:00:08
Here's here's what I've read the theoretical part of this why it
3:00:12
would make sense. His Roman is was obviously the
3:00:15
offensive coordinator in Baltimore for a while with with
3:00:19
Harbaugh and he's a run specialist.
3:00:22
Maggie is a pass specialist so you ideally would have one be a
3:00:28
run game coordinator. Maggies never had good run games
3:00:30
ever, so maybe this is kind of complimenting his flaws.
3:00:36
Then hire a guy that does both. Hire the guy that does both.
3:00:40
That makes no sense. Hire a guy that knows how to
3:00:44
call both. Kingsbury would have been the
3:00:46
perfect fit. It would have fit like a glove.
3:00:49
You. Hired.
3:00:49
You think Joe Shane was going to get this right?
3:00:52
You really think he was going to get?
3:00:53
What an embarrassment for the New York Giants.
3:00:55
Get into The Jets. Then, as kind of expected, The
3:00:59
Jets went out and hired Frank Reich to be their offensive
3:01:03
coordinator. He's been a head coach a couple
3:01:05
of times in the league. He famously was offensive
3:01:08
coordinator when the Eagles made their first Super Bowl run.
3:01:13
He's got experience. This is what we were saying.
3:01:16
The Jets need is a play caller with experience so they can
3:01:20
focus on getting that defense right.
3:01:21
He played for The Jets, so he understands the organization.
3:01:25
He almost got the head coaching job a couple of years ago.
3:01:28
This is a good competent offensive coordinator.
3:01:31
Was he the guy that The Jets absolutely wanted?
3:01:34
No. They wanted John Gruden.
3:01:35
They failed on that because John Gruden was not going to be
3:01:38
second fiddle to Aaron Glenn. We all understand that.
3:01:41
But Frank Wright is a competent guy.
3:01:43
He's won two super balls as an offensive coordinator.
3:01:46
This is a man that understands how to run a good offense.
3:01:49
I I think it's a slam dunk for The Jets.
3:01:52
And if Aaron Glenn's going to have his job safe for him, it's
3:01:55
it's got to be Frank Wright's offense.
3:01:57
He understood that they can't go into a second season with a
3:02:01
rookie offensive play caller. They need to bring in a veteran
3:02:04
guy that understands how to run the offense and him run the
3:02:07
defense. I think it's a slam dunk for The
3:02:09
Jets, yeah. The Colts and the Panthers both
3:02:12
had offenses when he when he was there that needed time to build
3:02:15
up. Obviously, Andrew Luck was
3:02:16
there, which helped, but he was never healthy at the time.
3:02:18
And the Colts were supposed to be one of the worst teams in the
3:02:20
league that year and ended up making the playoffs in Carolina.
3:02:23
I I mean, the organization wanted to draft Rice Young and
3:02:25
he wanted to draft CJ Stroud. That was a big tipping point.
3:02:28
But Even so, they still move the ball.
3:02:29
OK, They still had a competent enough team and then they fire
3:02:31
him randomly in the middle of the season.
3:02:33
It didn't make much sense. Now, if The Jets avoid that kind
3:02:35
of situation where he could actually coach the quarterback
3:02:37
that he wants to coach, that'll be a different story.
3:02:39
But we'll see with Woody Johnson and Aaron Glenn if they actually
3:02:41
allow him to do that. I don't know if Frank Reich's
3:02:44
ever played for. Is anybody watching this award
3:02:47
show? Puka Naku and his mother are
3:02:49
dancing in their seat to E40. Does anybody he's they're both
3:02:54
singing and dancing in their seats.
3:02:56
It's it's crazy. We could have This is what we're
3:03:00
missing. Errol right now is E4 O.
3:03:03
We could be dancing to right. Now that's what we want to do.
3:03:07
Now we want to go to the next topic, which this one should
3:03:11
have happened a long time ago, Errol.
3:03:12
Travis Kelsey doing his little shimmy.
3:03:15
No Taylor Swift there, that's for sure.
3:03:17
God, I'm sorry, I had to do. That no, that's all right.
3:03:19
We've talked about this how the Rooney rules of farce and it's
3:03:23
been just you know this like box you have to check before you
3:03:27
hire the guy you want to hire. It's and it and it leads to like
3:03:31
people haven't hurt feelings. Brian Flores had hurt feelings
3:03:34
over it still does that leads to that lawsuit.
3:03:37
Probably why he's not a head coach.
3:03:39
Goodell came out, I believe is the beginning of this week or
3:03:44
late last week saying that they're going to re evaluate the
3:03:48
Rooney Rule this offseason. What does that mean?
3:03:51
And see if they need to update how it's done, they need to may
3:03:56
whether get rid of it completely or fix it, amend it perhaps.
3:04:01
So, Errol, what do you think about this?
3:04:04
I think Roger. Goodell is a complete moron.
3:04:08
So I mean, if you really want to know my take on it, I mean, the
3:04:11
Rooney Rule should be allowed it.
3:04:13
It team should be interviewing African American coaches.
3:04:17
There should be more African American coaches in the NFL.
3:04:20
There's no question. And I understand why Goodell
3:04:24
and, and the league brought it in and, and why ownership,
3:04:27
ownerships and, and, and Rooney from the Pittsburgh Steelers
3:04:31
brought that to the, you know, brought that to the league.
3:04:34
The only thing that I hate about it is even with it, they're
3:04:37
still not hiring African American coaches.
3:04:40
Still with having these Rooney rules.
3:04:42
Eric B Enemy has been interviewing how many times?
3:04:46
He interviewed like 20 something times and never got a head
3:04:49
coaching job. I don't want to hear that he's a
3:04:51
bad interviewer. How bad could you be?
3:04:54
Honestly, this guy has been one of the better offensive
3:04:57
coordinators in the league. I know he's playing.
3:04:59
He's coaching under Andy Reid, he still has a prolific offense,
3:05:02
he's coaching Patrick Mahomes, and he knows how to run a team.
3:05:06
So why hasn't Eric B Enemy ever been hired?
3:05:08
I don't want to hear because he was drunk and he's had his back
3:05:11
end of problems in the past. So have every every single other
3:05:15
coach. How about this?
3:05:16
Sean Payton had problems popping pills.
3:05:19
He still got a job. He's still got an offer.
3:05:22
Sean Payton, who was a drug addict.
3:05:24
So how many times do we have to go by?
3:05:26
Pete Carroll had a drinking problem in the early years when
3:05:29
he was coaching and he was an offensive coordinator, I'm
3:05:31
sorry, defensive coordinator for the New England Patriots.
3:05:34
He got a job. He became a head coach in the
3:05:37
NFL and won national championships.
3:05:39
Come on guys, this is an absolute bogus situation.
3:05:43
Goodell needs to fix this. These guys need to get an
3:05:46
opportunity. Brian Flores needs to get a job,
3:05:48
and so does Eric B Enemy. I think these guys are long
3:05:52
overdue. Yeah, the bigger problem I think
3:05:54
is the owners, because I think you have a lot of these guys
3:05:56
that are just still stuck in their old ways.
3:05:58
And I think you're seeing even one of these when these
3:06:00
ownerships that are previously thought of as bad hiring
3:06:03
minority candidates. It's to say, oh, we finally did
3:06:05
it for once after going through a scandal, takes a team with the
3:06:07
Texans who did it two years in a row but then fired both of those
3:06:10
guys. Now they hired to Mecca Ryan,
3:06:11
which is good, but think about the two teams before that too.
3:06:13
And then all those teams in the Brian Flores lawsuit, the Lions,
3:06:17
the Giants, teams like that that don't hire minority coaches and.
3:06:20
By the way, I just want to I want to say congratulations to
3:06:23
the new MVP of the NFLI. Know we're going to be talking
3:06:26
about it on Monday. Matthew Stafford,
3:06:28
congratulations to him. That's well deserved.
3:06:31
I do not believe Mike Vrabel should be coach of the year.
3:06:34
That's just my opinion. Mike McDonald should have won
3:06:36
coach of the year. I disagree.
3:06:38
We'll find out that one on Sunday.
3:06:40
Who deserved that one the best? I think that's that's a great
3:06:42
point. Yeah.
3:06:42
We'll talk about that on Monday. Let's move on, Speedy and Errol,
3:06:47
to Matt Ryan, who is now the president of the Atlanta
3:06:53
Falcons. Oh God, please.
3:06:55
Came out and said that he is not committing to Michael Pennix
3:07:00
junior necessarily as the starting quarterback for the
3:07:03
team next season. What is he hanging on of Kirk
3:07:08
Cousins? I mean, come on, this is
3:07:11
ridiculous. Well, I mean, or is he going to
3:07:14
go for someone in the draft? Is this a Carson Beck landing
3:07:18
spot? You know, at the top of the
3:07:20
second? He'd be an absolute idiot.
3:07:23
He's got Michael Pennix, who looked really good Ever since
3:07:26
he's come into the league. He's obviously he can't stay
3:07:29
healthy, but the guy has a tremendous amount of talent.
3:07:32
He was a first round talent, very well built as far as
3:07:36
throwing arm, can move inside and out of the pocket.
3:07:39
He can throw the ball as good as anybody in the league.
3:07:42
I think when you hear Matt Ryan come out and say that he's not
3:07:45
committed to him just tells you how stupid Matt Ryan is.
3:07:48
It's an absolute debacle. Matt Ryan's an idiot.
3:07:50
Yeah, it doesn't make sense. And they don't have a first
3:07:52
round pick to go for a quarterback in this class, which
3:07:54
you're not going to have any guarantees really.
3:07:56
And I think panics, I'm not saying to like extend him or
3:08:00
commit to a fifth year option because of his injury risk, but
3:08:02
at least give him much of a chance to see how he comes back
3:08:04
before you say, all right, I'm not going to go commit to him.
3:08:06
It just makes you look bad for an organization that doesn't
3:08:08
really do. He's been there for two years.
3:08:10
You're going to give up on a quarterback in that you drafted
3:08:13
in the first round in two years? Yeah, if there's no concern when
3:08:17
he comes back and he doesn't play well, that's different.
3:08:19
He played well every time he was healthy.
3:08:22
It looked pretty good. You're going to.
3:08:24
You're not going to commit to. It not now it's stupid, yeah.
3:08:27
It doesn't make sense. It just says it shows you how
3:08:30
incompetent Matt Ryan is. It's a dumb move.
3:08:32
Absolutely dumb move. Matt Ryan, you should be fired
3:08:35
just because you announced that. Sounds like it sounds like he's
3:08:39
going to be drafting a quarterback, Errol.
3:08:41
That's what it sounds like to me.
3:08:42
It sounds stupid. We'll save the Hall of Fame
3:08:45
story and we'll just do that all next week.
3:08:47
The Pro Bowl recap mentioned in the rundown, please.
3:08:52
I don't. I don't know if you caught any
3:08:53
of it. I did.
3:08:54
I caught some of it. I mean, they're playing
3:08:57
dodgeball. Nitin could run faster than
3:08:59
those guys during the game. Well, we've seen Nitin run, and
3:09:02
we both know that's not true. You're.
3:09:04
Probably right? I don't know, with those extra
3:09:06
leashes he might be motivated. You're probably right.
3:09:11
So it would be one of those like races where they got the dogs
3:09:13
and you're like pulling the pulling the chariot and Nathan's
3:09:16
like. You know I'm putting her on a
3:09:19
leash now. Yeah, so the big event was the
3:09:25
seven on 7 flag football match between the AFC and NFC.
3:09:29
There was some cool plays. George Pickens was the offensive
3:09:33
MVP, Antoine Winfield junior, the NFC defensive MVP, but I
3:09:39
mean, it's it's wild. They did a really cool thing
3:09:44
that I don't know if you know about this.
3:09:45
This is actually the only cool thing I thought of the entire
3:09:48
Pro Bowl other than watching Miles Garrett be better than
3:09:51
everybody else at dodgeball as well as football.
3:09:54
But I when I was teaching in Florida.
3:09:56
Errol girls flag football is a varsity sport in high schools
3:10:01
all throughout the state of Florida and NFL flag high school
3:10:05
girls showcase took place at the Pro Bowl.
3:10:09
It was. Much better.
3:10:10
Much better than watching the pros.
3:10:12
Much better. So I I thought that it was nice
3:10:15
that they did some of that stuff.
3:10:17
Errol, how'd you like the Pro Bowl?
3:10:19
Pathetic they got to get rid of it.
3:10:21
I don't want to watch it anymore.
3:10:23
I I do not know why they're even bringing it to Super Bowl week.
3:10:29
It it's dumb. It's stupid.
3:10:31
What is it? What does it do for the players
3:10:32
when you have Shaddor Sanders, who's a third string quarterback
3:10:36
starting in the game? It's embarrassing.
3:10:38
They reached out to Justin Fields of the New York Jets and
3:10:41
he declined to go to the Super. I mean, go to the Pro Bowl game.
3:10:46
I mean, because it's embarrassing.
3:10:48
He was embarrassed about the season he had and Shaddor should
3:10:52
be embarrassed for the season did he had as a third or fourth
3:10:55
string quarterback. K going into the CC, it was a
3:10:57
fourth string quarterback because they had Kenny Pickett
3:10:59
there. Kenny Pickett.
3:11:01
So I, I it's pathetic, absolutely pathetic.
3:11:05
Get rid of it. It was already losing loss
3:11:06
anyway, and now it's lost. Get rid of it.
3:11:09
Get rid of it, Goodell. Just get rid of it.
3:11:11
Have like this skills competition or something.
3:11:14
Do something with this. Speedy, what skill would you do
3:11:18
if you had to do the skills competition?
3:11:20
I got the list of them here. We got the precision passing,
3:11:23
the catch drills, dodgeball, tug of war or relay races.
3:11:28
I would I'll. Take my chance with the
3:11:30
dodgeball. I would do this is what I would
3:11:32
do. I would just rehearse the
3:11:34
combine again. Have them do the combine again
3:11:38
in front of the fans and see if they can keep up what they did
3:11:40
when they were younger. See that would be fun to watch
3:11:43
to see if they can run the 40 as fast as they did when they were.
3:11:46
I know they can't but. You know they would never do
3:11:49
that, You know, runners. Are but but you know the
3:11:51
competition, but you know the competition, you know they're
3:11:55
going to want to win. You guys got like Michael
3:11:57
Parsons running, you know, in a skills competition trying to
3:12:00
beat out quarterbacks or beat out like Lamar Jackson.
3:12:03
I'm telling you right now to be more competitive watching
3:12:06
something like the combine, like a pro combine than watching this
3:12:10
garbage on television. I don't want to see tug of war.
3:12:13
That's stupid too. I don't even want to watch that.
3:12:16
I, I'm telling you, do the combine in a pro area like a pro
3:12:21
style and I, I guarantee you the players will want to do that.
3:12:24
I guarantee you, because they're going to want to compete against
3:12:27
each other and compete against themselves for what they did 567
3:12:31
years ago or however long they they haven't been in the
3:12:34
combine. I think that would be more
3:12:35
interesting. If you would ask me, that's the
3:12:37
route I would go. nhl.com's Dan Rosen reported on Wednesday that
3:12:44
the New York Rangers have traded our Tammy Panarin to the LA
3:12:49
Kings. The Rangers will receive Wait
3:12:53
until you hear this one. The Rangers will receive right
3:12:56
wing prospect Liam Roundtree and a conditional 2026 third round
3:13:01
pick if the Kings win one round in the playoffs.
3:13:05
The pick will become a second round pick if they win multiple
3:13:09
rounds. The Rangers will also get a
3:13:12
fourth round pick for Artemi Pinarin, one of the best
3:13:19
offensive players still in the NHL today.
3:13:22
Have I think going into the All Star break, well, it's around
3:13:26
the corner, the All Star break, I think he has like 54 points,
3:13:29
57 points. 19 goals, 38 assists. He's one of the best offensive
3:13:33
players still in the NHL. I don't care if he's 34.
3:13:36
The fact that he's going to the Kings, that's a complete
3:13:39
upgrade. Liam Roundtree, I don't know
3:13:41
much about him. I, I read a little bit about
3:13:43
him. I don't even know if he'll be
3:13:45
ready to be in the NHL for another two or three years.
3:13:48
So you're, you're talking about a 23 year old that might not be
3:13:51
NHL bound until he's 26. So I, it doesn't make any sense.
3:13:57
And that shows you how bad Chris Drury is as AGM.
3:14:01
Everybody I have spoken to, so many Ranger fans, guys, so many
3:14:05
Ranger fans saying we're going to get a first for him and
3:14:08
probably a top six type of player for a guy like Panera or
3:14:13
we're going to get a top 6 player or a first round draft
3:14:17
pick. They didn't get neither, ladies
3:14:19
and gentlemen, they didn't get neither.
3:14:21
They might not even get a second round pick for him.
3:14:24
He's probably going to stay with the Kings next year.
3:14:26
He's going to probably re sign with them.
3:14:28
They're good, they're young, they're talented and he's going
3:14:31
to love LA. He's been in New York for a
3:14:33
while now. It's warm all the time over
3:14:35
there. Practically.
3:14:36
He's going to love the beaches, he's going to love the surfing
3:14:39
and he doesn't have to worry about the New York media
3:14:41
anymore. I think it's a slam dunk for the
3:14:44
the Kings being being that he's going to LA and he's going to
3:14:47
get a chance to play with some really good young players.
3:14:50
I, I think this is an absolute slap in the face.
3:14:53
If you're a Ranger fan right now and you're rooting for Chris
3:14:56
Drury to keep his job, then you guys are complete morons.
3:15:01
Morons because this guy should have lost his job last year and
3:15:06
the fact that he still has it this year and you hear James
3:15:09
Dolan go on Craig Carton show and say, well, I have trusted
3:15:13
Chris, Chris Drury. Really you got trust in this
3:15:16
guy. He's hired 3 coaches.
3:15:18
He's fired 4 while he's fired. I'm sorry, he's hired 3.
3:15:22
He's been there for four and he's fired three of them.
3:15:25
So it it doesn't make any sense. I I think he's he's been a
3:15:29
debacle to the organization. He's made this organization look
3:15:32
like a second tier organization that has spent money and thought
3:15:36
they've drafted right. They made a mistake.
3:15:38
We'll laughing here. That wasn't his guy, Capco.
3:15:42
Capoco wasn't his guy either. But the guys that he has drafted
3:15:46
since then, in the four and a half, five years he's been
3:15:49
there. None of those guys, I repeat,
3:15:52
none of those guys have played fifty or more games on this
3:15:57
roster. That tells me this organization
3:16:00
is doomed. They have no future and nothing
3:16:04
to look forward to. And they better hope that
3:16:07
McKenna falls to them and and maybe they get a, they move up
3:16:11
and get a defenseman because they got to need, they're going
3:16:14
to need a lot more than what their draft stock is this year.
3:16:18
They have a tremendous, A tremendous amount of work to do
3:16:24
in the next couple of years to make this team a competent team.
3:16:26
They're terrible. Yeah, it's a bad move.
3:16:28
When you look at the like the Rangers, if they were going to
3:16:31
get anything close to what you were saying, 1/3, a second round
3:16:33
pick, a first round pick or a top six player that.
3:16:35
Could be that's what they said. That they were going to, Yeah.
3:16:38
They were only going to do that if they waited and actually had
3:16:40
a bidding war with other teams. Instead, they do it impulsively,
3:16:43
like you had the whole Olympic break to try to figure it out,
3:16:46
like make those teams come for them because things can change.
3:16:49
You're going to tell me you can't get a top six player for
3:16:52
one of them? They were never.
3:16:53
Going to do that now. They might have done it in two
3:16:56
weeks when teams are going to fight with each other.
3:16:58
Carolina might have made a move for him.
3:17:00
I mean, the Rangers already giving up on a season, so who
3:17:03
cares? The Florida Panthers could have
3:17:05
traded away one of their good young talented players or good
3:17:08
offensive options as a top six player to get Panera because he
3:17:12
wanted to go to Florida. If they just waited, it's
3:17:16
pathetic. Incite a bidding.
3:17:18
War I I mentioned mainly the West teams.
3:17:19
I think there were more W teams involved.
3:17:21
It was really Carolina or Florida and maybe Washington.
3:17:24
Sorry to cut you off. Think about it.
3:17:25
Think. Think about what the Islanders
3:17:27
got for Brock Nelson last year. Think about it.
3:17:31
They got a guy that was drafted in the first round, a top end
3:17:35
talent in their farm system from Colorado, Callum Ritchie, who's
3:17:39
in on their roster right now as we speak on on 1/3 line, who
3:17:43
could be a second line winker in the future for this team.
3:17:47
All right, They and they they got two first round draft picks,
3:17:51
2 that this last year and this year coming up from Colorado.
3:17:57
It to me, it's it's absolutely a debacle for the New York Rangers
3:18:02
not to get as much as the Islanders got for Brock Nelson.
3:18:06
To me, it was just a terrible, terrible train.
3:18:09
Yeah, Brock Nelson is not anywhere close to now.
3:18:11
Brock Nelson's been a streaky goal scorer in his career.
3:18:13
Good face off guy, but not the same level of offensive talent.
3:18:16
Speed wise, skating. The Panarin is Panarin.
3:18:19
There's enough teams out there. You talk about Carolina, they've
3:18:22
had a pattern of trading for these wings all the time.
3:18:24
They could have waited. And the Rangers, they're not
3:18:26
afraid to trade in the Eastern Conference either.
3:18:28
We've seen them trade with the Devils.
3:18:29
They just recently traded with the Islanders.
3:18:30
Grace, it was just Carson Soucy. But still, like, you're not
3:18:33
looking at the Capitals. They trade with the Capitals a
3:18:35
bunch too. Like that was another team that
3:18:37
was interested and would have extended him.
3:18:38
The Kings looks like they're going to extend him too.
3:18:40
Yeah, that's the other problem. Three years they're.
3:18:42
Probably going to give him a two year deal.
3:18:44
Probably maybe 3. You're hearing 3.
3:18:47
That's the other problem. You would think, OK, if you know
3:18:49
a team's going to extend a player, oh, we should get more
3:18:52
value for that than it would be for a rental team.
3:18:54
Like it's different if you trade him to a team that knows they're
3:18:57
not going to keep him. Maybe again, maybe a team like
3:18:59
Vegas, maybe a team like Dallas, maybe he's going for a one year
3:19:01
type run where the Kings, I think he's actually thought of
3:19:04
as a long, not a long term option, but a long enough term
3:19:06
option with a team that's really young.
3:19:08
Think about this we the the Rangers might never see Liam
3:19:12
Roundtree in the NHL and right now it's a third round pick that
3:19:17
could be a second round pick, which might be a second round
3:19:20
pick and we are do you trust that Chris Drury is going to
3:19:24
make the right decisions at in the second round this coming
3:19:27
year in 2026 after what we've. Crown tree had like 109.19
3:19:31
points in the OHL last. That's fine. 19 year old that
3:19:33
does a 19 year old. The Rangers have messed with
3:19:36
better prospects already. I understand he's 20 years old.
3:19:39
He's 62210 and he's going to be a power forward.
3:19:43
It's not like. Didn't they say this about Paro?
3:19:46
Bad player. Didn't they say this about Paro
3:19:48
when he was playing college hockey and all?
3:19:50
This guy is going to be a 3040 goal scorer.
3:19:53
He's the guy who went pro at age, but he went pro at like age
3:19:56
16 into the O to like these guys and he's been playing junior
3:19:59
hockey. He's a Canadian on the circuit.
3:20:01
It's not an American College guy.
3:20:03
I I'm trying to be hopeful, but I know you're probably right.
3:20:07
Errol. I I've seen just bad decision
3:20:09
after bad decision by Chris Drury.
3:20:12
This entire tenure that he's been here, they try.
3:20:14
He tried to make it out like it was all John Davidson's fault
3:20:17
before he left. I, I, you know, I don't know how
3:20:20
you be successful as John Davidson when you have Chris
3:20:23
Jury in in that like a fox in the hen house, I'm assuming to
3:20:27
get that job. I can't imagine what that was
3:20:29
like, that dynamic. And John Davidson was a Rangers
3:20:31
legend, legendary broadcaster as well, owner and then all the
3:20:35
stuff he did with the Blues, right?
3:20:38
Like that. You would think that that guy
3:20:39
deserved more respect than he got.
3:20:42
But you know, you know, look as as lucky as a Knicks fan I am
3:20:47
that Dolan went with Leon Rose. He also went with Chris Drury.
3:20:51
Well, and in the past, he went with Isaiah Thomas.
3:20:54
He went with Phil Jackson. He makes more bad choices than
3:20:57
good choices historically. I would worry if I'm the Rangers
3:21:02
and I'm the Rangers fans. I'm a Ranger fan going into the
3:21:06
offseason and trusting that Chris Drury is going to make the
3:21:09
right decisions in free agency and drafting.
3:21:13
He's given up a lot of talent. He's given up on players that he
3:21:16
should have kept. Goudreau was a guy that I think
3:21:19
they should have kept last year. Was it last year or the year
3:21:22
before? The year before that, during the
3:21:25
trade deadline when he told Goudreau he's going to keep him
3:21:27
and then he traded him because he didn't want to move his kids
3:21:30
in the middle of the year. And he pretty much screwed
3:21:34
Goudreau. He screwed a lot of people.
3:21:36
He's the prototypical type of guy that you don't want to run
3:21:41
your organization. And I'm telling you right now,
3:21:43
it is going to cost this organization for the next 5 to 6
3:21:48
years if this guy is running this band of idiots, and I mean
3:21:52
band of idiots, because James Dolan doesn't know what he's
3:21:55
doing and his assistant GM does not know what he's doing and he
3:22:01
does not know what he's doing. And, and by the way, Sullivan
3:22:04
will be here for another year and he'll probably say, I don't
3:22:07
want to be here anymore. Get Me Out of here, Sullivan.
3:22:11
Just remember something, Sullivan, when he was over there
3:22:14
with Pittsburgh, he was coaching a young Sidney Crosby, a young
3:22:19
Malkin and and one of the best defenseman in the NHL.
3:22:23
So who all three of these guys are going to be?
3:22:26
Hall of Farmers, so. Just so you know, Errol, we got
3:22:29
some inside Intel breaking into the backstage earlier tonight on
3:22:33
our new intern. Dom had an inside source from
3:22:37
Penn State that McKenna from the bar was there when McKenna got
3:22:42
into this fight. That left the other guy
3:22:44
bloodied. Apparently someone was talking
3:22:48
smack about Mckenna's mom, turned around and beat the shit
3:22:51
out of the guy. That doesn't make me like him
3:22:53
less. That makes me like him more.
3:22:55
And bring him to New York, boys, I'm all in.
3:22:59
Go get me that guy. Well.
3:23:00
You're out of your minds and that doesn't mean.
3:23:03
Anything. I'll take it.
3:23:04
I'll take it. I like it.
3:23:05
What makes you? These are all key players.
3:23:07
What makes you, what makes you think he's going to fall to
3:23:09
wherever the the Rangers are going to be picking?
3:23:11
The Rangers are going to be the worst record in in hockey the
3:23:14
way they're going right now. And that doesn't mean they're
3:23:16
going to get the number one. Pick no, but they're going to be
3:23:18
in the top three to the top five.
3:23:20
The Islanders were #10 and they got the number one pick, I mean.
3:23:24
Look, but I don't think you can fall speedy.
3:23:26
You correct me if I'm wrong with the NHL lottery.
3:23:29
I know in basketball you can't fall that far.
3:23:31
But if you're, you're not getting it, you're not getting
3:23:33
it. And I I know what you're going
3:23:35
to say and you're not not going to be able to fall at a certain
3:23:37
if you're drafting at 1, you can't fall past five.
3:23:40
The Rangers need defense. And I'm going to tell you this
3:23:43
right now, if I know Chris Drury, he is going to draft a
3:23:47
defensive player in his top pick.
3:23:50
They have been lacking that position for a very long time.
3:23:54
And yes, they have Fox, but Fox can't stay healthy and he's an
3:23:57
offensive defenseman. He's more offense than he is a
3:24:01
defenseman. They're going to bring in a guy
3:24:03
that can do be A2 dimensional guy like Schaefer.
3:24:06
What you see with the Islanders have, that's what the the
3:24:09
Rangers want and that's what the Rangers need.
3:24:11
And that's what I believe the Rangers are going to go after at
3:24:14
#5 Who's the kid? Keaton Vorhoff.
3:24:17
Vorhoff is the guy. That's the guy that everybody
3:24:21
says that'll probably fall to four or five if the Rangers are
3:24:25
sitting there, that's where the Rangers should go, not McKenna.
3:24:28
So if that's what you want, you want to bring in another
3:24:30
offensive option like a Lafinir and a Capococko, watch them fall
3:24:34
flat on their face. It's not a smart move.
3:24:37
If you're a Ranger fan, you go with a a defenseman who is
3:24:41
probably more of a short thing than McKenna is and probably
3:24:44
keep, you know, keep out of the tabloids.
3:24:47
I don't care if you'll love it because somebody said something
3:24:49
about his mom and he punched him out.
3:24:51
That doesn't go, that doesn't show you that you're a
3:24:53
professional. 18 year old kid is a freshman in college, right?
3:24:57
And he, we all did stupid stuff as a freshman in college and
3:25:00
he's just trying to be tough. I, I'm more concerned that he's
3:25:03
having too good of a time in college over at State College in
3:25:06
Pennsylvania. We know that's a fun place to go
3:25:09
and his production is not what they thought it was going to be,
3:25:13
you know, coming he's only at about a point and 1/2 per game
3:25:17
so far this season. And they thought he was going to
3:25:19
be like 2 / 2 points per game type of kid in college.
3:25:22
So, you know, it's it's he's not starting off as hot, but again,
3:25:26
young guy playing against grown men and looks like he's having
3:25:29
an awesome. Time, ladies and gentlemen.
3:25:31
That's why he's a Ranger fan. Fish is going.
3:25:34
What's up with that? He is going to stick up for all
3:25:37
his teams, from the Giants to the Rangers to the Knicks.
3:25:40
Somebody's got to. There's no honesty coming from
3:25:43
this man's mouth. So I'm just letting you guys
3:25:45
know if you're listening to this guy, just understand he is a fan
3:25:50
of these teams. So I got to, I got to be
3:25:53
straight up honest with you guys.
3:25:55
Even even being an Islander fan. Do I think the Islanders are
3:25:58
winning a Stanley Cup this year? No, but I do believe that the
3:26:01
Islanders are making the playoffs and they could make a
3:26:03
run. They're playing great hockey and
3:26:06
Sarokin has been as good of any, as good as any goalie in the
3:26:10
last five weeks. As a matter of fact, he leads
3:26:13
league in shutouts and the Islanders are playing great,
3:26:16
great hockey there. I think they're in 3rd place in
3:26:19
the Eastern Conference and they're going to be fighting for
3:26:21
that number one spot all season. There's still like 30 something
3:26:24
games left. The Islanders have a chance this
3:26:26
year, but I don't I think they're missing a piece for
3:26:29
unless they trade another offensive option.
3:26:32
They're talking about Peterson from Vancouver.
3:26:34
If they can make that move in land Peterson, that would be a
3:26:37
slam dunk for the New York Islanders.
3:26:39
If they can land Peterson and they're they're willing to give
3:26:42
up one of their first round draft picks this year to land
3:26:44
another big offensive option. If they can get Peterson for a
3:26:48
first round talent, a first round pick, I think it's a slam
3:26:51
dunk for the and the and he's under contract.
3:26:54
He's 27 years old. I, I, it's, it's an absolute
3:26:57
slam dunk for the. Island.
3:26:58
He needs to change the scenery badly.
3:27:00
You might even not You might. Not and he played on the same
3:27:02
line as Bo Hor. He might not even like you,
3:27:04
might not even have to give up as much as you would have
3:27:05
thought. First round draft pick one,
3:27:07
that's it. I think you give up one first
3:27:09
round draft pick, you can land Peterson and then you bring them
3:27:12
on the same line as Bo Horvat and Matthew Barzell.
3:27:16
I mean, come on guys that that could be one of the best lines
3:27:19
in the NHL right now. And with what's the way
3:27:22
Schaefers playing the Islander defense is playing.
3:27:24
Patrick Wah to me is coach of the year right now.
3:27:26
If you were to ask me right now, it's either him or the Colorado
3:27:29
Avalanche coach. I mean, Benar, those are these
3:27:33
two guys are probably 1A and 1B this year for coach of the year.
3:27:38
It's been pretty amazing and Sarokin is finally fully healthy
3:27:42
with the back surgery that he had two years ago.
3:27:44
It takes about it usually takes 2 years.
3:27:47
I've talked to a bunch of goal tenders that have said they've
3:27:49
had the same surgery in the past and it takes 2 years to get back
3:27:54
to 100%. And and you could see the
3:27:56
Islanders are sitting pretty right now and Sarokin is not
3:28:00
getting paid shastrikin money, as we all know, eleven, $11
3:28:04
million to a guy that's only making nine and a half million
3:28:08
dollars. So the Islanders are sitting
3:28:10
pretty with sarokin as their number one.
3:28:12
I I love, I love what the Islanders doing, but Stanley Cup
3:28:16
got to see more. They got to make a move for an
3:28:18
offensive option to help them out on that first or second
3:28:21
line. So we'll see what happens at the
3:28:22
trade deadline. All right.
3:28:24
Our last segment of the night, what's that smell?
3:28:28
Hold up, what is that smell? What's right smell?
3:28:37
Wow, you. Don't see that everyday.
3:28:39
All right, ladies and gentlemen, it's pretty simple how we play
3:28:42
this game. It's it's really simple.
3:28:43
We do it every single week. So we're going to go around in
3:28:46
order and we're going to tell you a story and we're going to
3:28:49
tell you what it smells like. So tonight, we're going to go
3:28:52
Fish, we're going to go. Tommy, we're going to go.
3:28:55
Speedy, we're going to go. Me.
3:28:58
All right, guys, let's get it going for what's that smell?
3:29:04
All right, this one, I mean, this one makes me happy.
3:29:07
Errol, maybe not you. Long time Eagles offensive line
3:29:13
coach Jeff Stoutland has resigned from coaching the
3:29:20
Philadelphia Eagles. I have his quote here.
3:29:23
Philadelphia. I've decided my time coaching
3:29:26
with the Eagles has come to an end.
3:29:28
When I arrived here in 2013, I did not know what I was signing
3:29:31
up for. I quickly learned what this city
3:29:33
demands, but more importantly, what it gives back.
3:29:36
The past 13 years have been a great privilege, been the great
3:29:40
privilege of my coaching career. I didn't just work here, I
3:29:44
became one of you. Stout out Jason Kelsey credited
3:29:48
him with basically creating crafting him into the guy he
3:29:52
was. So it would be this great player
3:29:53
and post career everything. He's the reason why they were
3:29:57
able to run all those 2000 yards with Saquon last year gets to
3:30:01
the Super Bowl. He's part of the getting another
3:30:03
Super Bowl before that. This guy is a legend and he's
3:30:07
gone. Errol.
3:30:08
You don't have him anymore. Your offensive line.
3:30:11
I heard Bobby Johnson's available.
3:30:14
You know, you can go get him. He's been with the he did great.
3:30:17
They did great protecting Jayden Daniels last year.
3:30:20
You know, I, I would go after him, or maybe you know someone
3:30:25
else that Joe Judge had or something like that.
3:30:28
But look, what does it smell like for Eagles fans?
3:30:31
It smells like a whole bunch of nasty rotting cheese whiz on
3:30:35
your crappy cheese steaks. Woody has no Woody.
3:30:41
All right, yeah, never gets tired of hearing Fish hating on
3:30:44
Eagles. But hey, I'm going to go over to
3:30:47
some more hating within the NFL somewhat because Bad Bunny is
3:30:52
going to be performing at the halftime show.
3:30:54
Now for those who don't know who Bad Bunny is.
3:30:57
Then you must be living under a rock.
3:30:59
Because everybody knows who Bad Bunny is.
3:31:01
Basically, if you don't know, Bad Bunny is the most streamed
3:31:05
artist in the world with even over 100 billion streamed views
3:31:09
and usually the most followed artists behind people only
3:31:13
behind Taylor Swift and Drake who are the only ones actually.
3:31:16
Having their numbers. Close to him basically.
3:31:19
It's really annoying looking at online all the people hating
3:31:22
saying this is going to be the worst halftime performance of
3:31:25
all time. I heard it so many times even
3:31:27
last year. I don't think people are even
3:31:28
happy with whoever they want for halftime show.
3:31:31
So I don't know if we're going to result to having country
3:31:33
music that'll be that'll be even boring.
3:31:35
But hey, like I said, Bad Bunny's the most streamed artist
3:31:39
in the world, just won a couple Grammys other day.
3:31:41
Woods even rumored that he even wore a bulletproof vest,
3:31:44
apparently because the death threats over the halftime show.
3:31:48
So. Please.
3:31:49
Hey. All I know is that look like I
3:31:52
said, Bad Bunny, the most streamed artist put some respect
3:31:55
on his name. Most overrated artist.
3:31:57
Hey, that man has over 100 billion views like I mentioned
3:32:02
for a reason so. If I knew how to sing reggaeton,
3:32:05
I think I'd have 100 billion views too.
3:32:07
You think? You could sing some reggaeton.
3:32:10
Let's hear. It I didn't say I could, but if
3:32:12
I could just try. Just try.
3:32:14
Don't ask me. I bet, I bet Speedy could do
3:32:23
that. Sounds more like a canter during
3:32:25
the High Holidays, Errol. So wait, what does it smell
3:32:33
like? It smells like the nastiest odor
3:32:35
of somebody'd armpits from those keyboard words or those
3:32:38
neckbeards as people. Like to say on.
3:32:40
Twitter. So yeah, there we go.
3:32:43
I gotta go back off now. All right, before we have to
3:32:48
hear any more of singing impersonations, I.
3:32:54
Tried. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, listen,
3:32:56
why can't we have like, some Jewish stuff, you know, on this?
3:33:01
I am. Hey, go ahead, Speedy.
3:33:11
All right, so I'm gonna. Go over for kind of a blast for
3:33:13
the past I saw on this hockey page on Instagram, the Ottawa
3:33:17
Senators apparently were ready to draft Andre Vasilevsky in the
3:33:21
draft back in 2012. And so the story goes Andre
3:33:25
Vasilevsky went to a water park the day a day or two before the
3:33:29
the interview was supposed to happen with him and he got he
3:33:33
got sunburned. So being that he was he was
3:33:37
ready he was he said he wasn't feeling well and stuff like
3:33:39
that. They asked the Ottawa Senators
3:33:40
if he they could move the interview to another day and
3:33:45
they never. The Iowa Senators and their
3:33:47
great general manager Pierre Dorian, that was horrible for a
3:33:49
while, made all those bad trades with later on with the trades,
3:33:53
the bad judge, the Rangers for nothing, Eric Carlson for
3:33:55
nothing to San Jose. All those all those guys they
3:33:59
decided to pass on who's probably been the best goalie of
3:34:01
the last eight years for Cody CC, who's a solid player but
3:34:06
nothing amazing. Like he's a decent serviceable
3:34:09
defenseman. Just because they didn't want to
3:34:11
reschedule his interview because he wasn't feeling well and was
3:34:13
sunburned. Good job, Pierre Dorian.
3:34:15
You pass on a future Hall of Fame goalie.
3:34:18
Craig Anderson was a good goalie, top 10 goalie when he
3:34:19
was there. But you pass on the guy that in
3:34:22
the future that could have been a good replacement for him.
3:34:24
So what does that smell like? It smells like Pierre Dorian
3:34:26
going down a water slide and getting sunburned.
3:34:28
But it's not into water. It's Ottawa's famous brown
3:34:31
marmorated stink bugs. Suck my indo I love Lisa Ann.
3:34:38
All right, my final What's that smell is you know, Harrison
3:34:43
Phillips was over there at the Super Bowl at Radio Row and he
3:34:47
said some interesting things about the New York Jets and here
3:34:51
it here it is. Defensive tackle Harrison
3:34:53
Phillips, one of the New York Jets veteran leaders, spoke
3:34:56
candidly Thursday about the same old Jets losing mental mentality
3:35:03
that the seeped into. Well, it seeped into the locker
3:35:07
room amid the team's 3 and 14 season under first year coach
3:35:13
Aaron Glenn. I think AJ inherited A cancerous
3:35:16
hold from cancerous team whole top to bottom, Phillips told the
3:35:21
Round Table Sports Sports on radio row at the Super Bowl.
3:35:27
Very interesting story, but I'm not surprised.
3:35:30
OK, this is the New York Jets. And I do believe he inherited A
3:35:34
cancerous group. That's why they got rid of Sauce
3:35:37
Garner. That's why they got rid of
3:35:39
Quinton Williams. They didn't want to be there.
3:35:41
They didn't want to deal with it.
3:35:42
And now we'll see how he can rebuild this team in probably
3:35:47
his final year. So this better be a very good
3:35:51
draft for the New York Jets. I also heard through the
3:35:54
Grapevine that Moji, their their leader, their GM is telling, you
3:36:00
know, obviously executives and people, players from other
3:36:05
organizations not to come here because it's a cancerous
3:36:09
organization. Now, I don't know if that's
3:36:10
true, but Manish Mehta, Speedy, we've had him on the show.
3:36:15
Manish Mehta. For my time.
3:36:16
But I know you've had him, Manish.
3:36:17
Mehta came on my show a couple of times.
3:36:19
He was a friend of the show and he got fired by the New York
3:36:23
Jets. The Jets got rid of him and now
3:36:25
he posted that Moji has reached out to former players that might
3:36:30
be interested in coming and playing for him and the New York
3:36:32
Jets and told him you don't want to come here.
3:36:34
This organization is cancerous. I don't know if it's true.
3:36:37
I probably going to say that it isn't true, but who knows?
3:36:41
What does it smell like? Well, it smells like the same
3:36:44
old Jets. That's what it smells like.
3:36:46
I have no idea if this is all true.
3:36:49
I will say this. I said this was Robert Sala's
3:36:54
team. You can shut the music.
3:36:54
I said this was Robert Sala's team.
3:36:57
This was not Aaron Glenn's team all the way through.
3:37:00
Going into the season, this is practically the same team that
3:37:03
Robert Sala and Joe Douglas put together.
3:37:06
Now we'll see going into an offseason with a lot of money
3:37:10
and a lot of options when it comes to draft stock, what The
3:37:13
Jets probably do. Could The Jets trade one of
3:37:16
their first round draft picks next year to move up into this
3:37:21
year's draft and draft 3 first round draft picks?
3:37:24
Very interesting because they got 3 next year.
3:37:27
Or do they trade out of that number two pick and add a fourth
3:37:30
to next year? I don't know how they or what
3:37:33
they do, but The Jets have a lot of options.
3:37:35
I think they're in the driver's seat and they also have a second
3:37:39
round draft pick this year for the Quinton Williams trade.
3:37:41
They got a first next year and a second this year from the
3:37:44
Cowboys. So The Jets are sitting pretty
3:37:46
right now and if they can pick the right guys, if they can pick
3:37:51
the right guys, they could be set up very, very good for the
3:37:54
next two to three years. We'll see.
3:37:56
That's all I'm going to say. Thank you to Howard Cross for
3:37:58
joining us. I'm sorry that I kind of messed
3:38:01
up with Ernie Davis and then Ernie Banks and then Carl Banks.
3:38:06
I want to apologize, but I think he knew what I meant.
3:38:09
All right, but it was a great interview and I'd like to thank
3:38:12
Howard Cross for joining us. Thank you to Reno Johnny, and
3:38:18
thank you for Chaz for giving us their picks for the Super Bowl
3:38:21
and giving us their Let's Parlay picks, their top 4 picks of the
3:38:26
week. We'll probably have Wes on next
3:38:28
week. He's been traveling a lot.
3:38:30
He's been in San Francisco taking care of some, you know,
3:38:33
some real estate. He's doing some good things
3:38:35
right now. So shout out to Wes and thank
3:38:38
you to all the fans on all the platforms for Spotify and Apple
3:38:41
video and audio. Thank you to the fans on TikTok,
3:38:44
Instagram, Facebook X YouTube. Jabba in the mouth.
3:38:49
Shout out to Jabba Chamberlain. He's traveling all the way to
3:38:53
Kansas City getting ready for the season for Hutch and his son
3:38:57
Carter Chamberlain. As a lot of Division One schools
3:39:01
are looking at Carter and hopefully he picks the right
3:39:04
school and eventually becomes a top and first round draft pick
3:39:08
like his dad is. So we're rooting for him.
3:39:11
A shout out to Carter. I hope you have a great season
3:39:13
this year with Hutch and and in your future is very bright like
3:39:17
your father's was. And we'll be back next week on
3:39:21
Monday. Who do we have on speed?
3:39:22
Nothing yet for Monday, but we do have a guest for Thursday.
3:39:24
Nathan was able to get him a linebacker that also played with
3:39:27
Howard Cross. Gary Reasons will be joining the
3:39:29
show at 8:45 on Thursday. New time, right guys?
3:39:33
Yes, Sir. Next week our show will be
3:39:36
starting at 6:45 Eastern Time. So it will be 7 to the main show
3:39:44
will be from 7:00 to 10:00. I'm sorry, 7:00 to 10:30.
3:39:47
We might go a little bit over, but we're going to try to stick
3:39:49
to the time 7:00 to 10:30. So for all the fans out there
3:39:52
that are tuned in at 7:30 at night, we're going to move it to
3:39:56
7:00. It'll start at 6:45 because we
3:39:59
do our spiel in the beginning of the show as we always do, but.
3:40:03
At 7:00 we will start the content.
3:40:06
So get ready. New time and new year guys.
3:40:10
It's going to be a great year for us.
3:40:11
We're working on some big things.
3:40:13
We're going to have some new segments and a lot of new
3:40:15
content for you guys and new guests.
3:40:17
So looking forward to it. And if things over there in San
3:40:19
Francisco, I hope he's enjoying the nice weather.
3:40:22
I, I think he said this morning it was like 40 something degrees
3:40:25
over there, but it's going to hit its highs at 73.
3:40:28
So it's, it's beautiful right now.
3:40:30
He's enjoying the, the beautiful weather at 70°.
3:40:34
So enjoy the, the time with Shador Sanders as you're sharing
3:40:38
whatever that is, whatever that is.
3:40:41
I, I don't know what it looks a little bit different to me.
3:40:44
I, I wouldn't share anything with Shador Sanders when it
3:40:47
comes to eating, that's for sure.
3:40:48
Anyways, that's it Ladies and gentlemen, we will see you next
3:40:52
week. Have a very good weekend.
3:40:53
Enjoy the Super Bowl. Go Seattle, go Hawks baby.
3:40:58
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