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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, January thirty one. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 1: Portions of tonight's special Jaguars Happy Hour will be brought
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Speaker 1: to you a live from Radio Row in Atlanta and
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Speaker 1: now newly inducted member of the Varsity hot Dog Hall
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Speaker 1: of Fame, j Pace hold most of the records. In fact,
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Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday. J P.
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Speaker 1: Shadrick with Jeff Lagerman in Jacksonville. Hi, Jeff, Hi, how
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Speaker 1: you doing? Man? Doing good? Good to see it. It's
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Speaker 1: good to be seen. We've got ourselves show here tonight
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Speaker 1: we do. Let's get to what we're getting to the
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame vote looming. We'll hear from Tony Boselli,
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Speaker 1: one of the fifteen finalists for the Pro Football Hall
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Speaker 1: of Fame vote, which comes up Saturday in Atlanta. The
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Speaker 1: selection committee meets and we'll have a decision sometimes Saturday
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Speaker 1: afternoon if he has one of the newly elected. We'll
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Speaker 1: hear from CBS Sports Senior writer Pete Frisco. He'll join
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Speaker 1: John Osier from Radio Row at the Georgia World Congress
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Speaker 1: Center in Atlanta, right across the street from Mercedes has
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Speaker 1: Been Stadium. That's coming up. At about four or fifteen,
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Speaker 1: we'll have our Super Bowl picks coming up. The eagerly
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Speaker 1: anticipated people can't wait. Let's go to Atlanta right now.
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Speaker 1: Speaking of Tony Boselli, here he is on the phone, Tony,
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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. How are you. What's going on, guys? I'm good.
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Speaker 1: I'm heading to a Rams practice right now to go
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Speaker 1: see uh, go see them as they get final prep
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Speaker 1: in before Where do they What do you actually do
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Speaker 1: at practice? I sit there and watch and get as
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Speaker 1: much information as I can. And here's a great thing
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Speaker 1: about it, log I can't talk about anything I see. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so what's the sense of going? Um, I think I
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Speaker 1: could you know? Pre game? I can kind of mention
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Speaker 1: overall what I see. I thought I saw the Patriots yesterday,
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Speaker 1: and uh so tell us what you saw. I can't
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Speaker 1: really get in the specifics, so I'll say this, I
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Speaker 1: saw the same thing we saw in training camp. It's
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Speaker 1: the most organized and fishing practice and it's no different
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Speaker 1: getting ready for the Super Bowl. There so, uh, there's
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Speaker 1: no wasted time by anyone on that practice field. M
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Speaker 1: We'll have a call, of course on Westwood One coming
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Speaker 1: up this Sunday six dirty kickoff time. So are you
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Speaker 1: are you calling the game? Are you sideline? What's your role? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm on I'm on the sideline. So in the boots
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Speaker 1: will be Kevin Harlan, uh, Kurt Warner and uh and
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Speaker 1: I got you and you and Edward are on the sidelines.
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Speaker 1: So you'll be the only Hall of Famer in the broadcast.
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Speaker 1: No kind of famer. Let's not forget that like that.
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Speaker 1: We'll get to the game coming up, of course, the
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Speaker 1: Rams and the Patriots for the Super Bowl Championship this Sunday,
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Speaker 1: six thirty, kickoff time in Atlanta. Uh, Tony, though, it's
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Speaker 1: all this is Tony was Sally week. You've been on
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Speaker 1: every program known to to Jacksonville media this week and uh,
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Speaker 1: now you're on this one as well on this Thursday
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Speaker 1: at four o'clock. How are you feeling right now, Tony
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Speaker 1: about the Hall of Fame? Um, yeah, that's a that's
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Speaker 1: a great question. For whatever reason, I'm more anxious this
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Speaker 1: year than I have been in the last two years
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Speaker 1: as the finalist. I don't know why. Um, maybe it's
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Speaker 1: because I know what to expect Saturday and and I
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Speaker 1: don't want to have that phone call and have that
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Speaker 1: terrible feeling again. So I'm hoping that doesn't happen. But
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Speaker 1: it's been a fun week. It's always uh, I enjoy
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Speaker 1: you'll cover the super Bowl and talking about that, and
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Speaker 1: obviously the Hall of Fame's big topic. So we'll wait
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Speaker 1: and see. I don't know. It's one of those things that, um,
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Speaker 1: I hope I gotta knock on the door and uh.
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Speaker 1: And and I'm not talking about this, uh this this
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Speaker 1: next year. Well, I think the it's got to feel
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Speaker 1: incredibly good and an honor just to be in the
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Speaker 1: conversation with great players every year at this time of year.
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Speaker 1: For you, I mean, there's no doubt. But Jeff, I
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Speaker 1: mean it's a huge honor. And it's funny when I
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Speaker 1: was talking one of my sons our day, uh and
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Speaker 1: he says, man, you need He literally told me, says
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Speaker 1: you need to enjoy this more. And I actually sat
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Speaker 1: back and thought about that and he was right. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's it's in Jeff's right to and it's a huge
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Speaker 1: honor it is to just to be discussed U with,
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Speaker 1: you know, and having an opportunity to be a part
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Speaker 1: of that Hall of Fame group with these other great fifties,
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Speaker 1: these great players, the fifteen guys, other fourteen guys with
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Speaker 1: me make up fifteen. It's tumbling. It's a huge honor,
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Speaker 1: and that's what you got to kind of keep proper
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Speaker 1: perspective because otherwise it'll drive you crazy sitting run waiting
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Speaker 1: because you have no control over it. So you might
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Speaker 1: as well enjoy it. And I'm trying to, I really am.
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Speaker 1: I'm actually I do have more fun than not. Um,
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Speaker 1: there's a little bit of anxiety without a dataty line
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Speaker 1: if I said there wasn't, But overall it's it is.
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Speaker 1: It's a huge honor. Tony Boselli with us en route
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Speaker 1: to practice in Atlanta, the Los Angeles Rams today and
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Speaker 1: the New England Patriots he saw yesterday. Um, you know,
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Speaker 1: I guess you had to be there anyway for Westwood
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Speaker 1: one duties. Would what day would you have gone if
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Speaker 1: you hadn't had that? Would you have done some Radio
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Speaker 1: Row stuff otherwise? Or is that I would have got
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Speaker 1: there today? Came in today? Okay? What came in today?
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Speaker 1: What is the the I guess the what's the strangest
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Speaker 1: the most unique interaction you've had in Radio Row this week?
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Speaker 1: When it comes to the Hall of Fame or the
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Speaker 1: game question or the worst interview anything, this might qualify
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Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, this is this is close. Um. I
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Speaker 1: had someone asked me that today, who's going to be
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Speaker 1: the East Beast player of the game? And I said
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Speaker 1: what East Beast? He says, yeah, like Heast, like East
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Speaker 1: kind of grows in the shade and in the dark
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Speaker 1: and kind of no one notices that who's gonna be
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Speaker 1: the unnoticed player that's gonna make the biggest impact. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: that's a unique way to ask a very simple question.
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Speaker 1: Who's the unstung hero? So that was interesting. That was
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Speaker 1: probably the most odd questioning. So I have a question.
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Speaker 1: Yesterday you watched the Patriots practice, and with Bill Belichick
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Speaker 1: and the Patriots, they're very protective of their practices. Who
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Speaker 1: who are they enabling the ability to watch the practices
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Speaker 1: like you were a part of yesterday for the Patriots
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Speaker 1: and the today you're a part of watching the Rams practice.
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Speaker 1: Who all is invite who's allowed to watch? Yeah? Very
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Speaker 1: few people. So the national radio broadcast, which is me
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Speaker 1: with Westwood One, the national TV broadcast, so Nanson Romo
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Speaker 1: were there, and one Pool reporter, So one Pool reporter
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Speaker 1: kind of takes notes and shares it with the rest
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Speaker 1: of the report. That's it. Yeah, And it's the same
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Speaker 1: thing with the Rams this afternoon. So this isn't a
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Speaker 1: Patrio rule an NFL rule. Who is allowed to go
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Speaker 1: to practice launch because the NFL game, the NFL controls
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Speaker 1: this good well. And if it was up to the Patriots,
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Speaker 1: there wouldn't be anybody practice. I mean, and I totally
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Speaker 1: get it, because you don't. I mean, it's too big.
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Speaker 1: You don't want anyone, you know, blabbing off if they
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Speaker 1: see anything, and if they're doing anything special, and you know,
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Speaker 1: kind of maybe it's a different scheme of formation, special
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Speaker 1: plays or whatever they're doing. You don't, don't, you know.
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Speaker 1: And I guarantee you that the practice that's open to
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Speaker 1: the media, I'm sure that there's some parts to the
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Speaker 1: practice or plays, et cetera that they're just not going
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Speaker 1: to use because I mean, the level of trust. I mean,
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Speaker 1: would you trust some media members in the biggest I think, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think that's fair, Jeff. I mean, I think you
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Speaker 1: have to be careful with it. But it's such a
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Speaker 1: limited group and so if anything gets out, they know
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Speaker 1: who it is. It's either the CBS crew, it's the
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Speaker 1: Westwood crew or the poor reporter, so at least they
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Speaker 1: can control it. Because of that, no one's gonna say anything.
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Speaker 1: I mean, no one's gonna come out. Yeah. I'm not
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Speaker 1: talking about something being published in in in in some
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Speaker 1: type of media source. I'm talking about somehow information getting
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Speaker 1: to another team. I mean, your level of trust is you.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't trust everybody. I wouldn't. I had certain new
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Speaker 1: I mean, like the bread and butter plays that you
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Speaker 1: always run, you run at practice. But if there's something
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Speaker 1: special and unique that you have designed for the Rams,
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Speaker 1: if you're the Patriots, or designed for the Patriots, if
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Speaker 1: you're the Rams, yeah, you're not gonna run that when
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Speaker 1: the Pool reporter and the Westwood crew and the CBS
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Speaker 1: crews there. I'm sorry. I mean I love Tony and
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Speaker 1: Tony Romo, but I'm not gonna run in that practice.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't either. I'm with you. Why, I mean, why
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Speaker 1: take any chances? And the one thing that happens in
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, because you have two weeks. The majority
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Speaker 1: of the prep and the game plan is put in
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Speaker 1: last week, and so you get they've been working down
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Speaker 1: you know better part you know two weeks getting ready
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Speaker 1: for this game, since a conference champion tip games so
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Speaker 1: they can be selective of what they do show when
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Speaker 1: the media is there. All right, Tony, I know you
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Speaker 1: gotta get to practice coming up, but before we let
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Speaker 1: you go for the evening, let's get your selection so
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Speaker 1: we can get to the picks a little later in
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Speaker 1: the show. But who I'm going to Patriots? I picked
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Speaker 1: against the Patriots when they played the Chargers. I picked
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Speaker 1: against the Patriots when they played the Chiefs, and so
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to get Combrady a third time. There's
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Speaker 1: no way. I think they win. Thirty four? Wow, tight game,
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Speaker 1: high scoring. Yeah, it'd be nice. Interesting do you guys think?
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Speaker 1: Are you guys do yours later here? It might be
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Speaker 1: something similar to that. Yeah, I'm not saying because JP
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Speaker 1: will get mad at me if I say anything, Tony,
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Speaker 1: but we think that I wouldn't do it. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty similar. Um, Tony, good luck to
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Speaker 1: you this week. Good luck. I appreciate you guys, and
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Speaker 1: I'll be talking to you next week. There he is
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Speaker 1: Tony Vaselli, hopefully with a trip to Hinton. Next time.
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Speaker 1: He's back with it. I think he's got a great chance.
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Speaker 1: I think he's got a great chance. I know the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars organization is is doing its best to put the
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Speaker 1: full court press on the different media members. And I
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Speaker 1: want to say full court press, but to help to
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Speaker 1: help convince to show people how great of a player
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Speaker 1: that he was. And and I think that I said
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Speaker 1: this last year, and I think I said it the
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Speaker 1: year before. You know, I I had the ability to
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Speaker 1: play against the left tackles that have already gone into
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Uh you name him. I mean
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Speaker 1: Willie Rove and on down the line, and Anthony Munos,
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Speaker 1: I mean some great players. And Tony Boselli, when he
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Speaker 1: was at his best, was better than all of them.
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Speaker 1: Better than all of them. Uh. The only one that
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Speaker 1: I would say that was even close to Tony for
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Speaker 1: me was John Ogden. And John Ogden I thought was
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Speaker 1: comparable to Tony from a past protection standpoint. And when
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Speaker 1: I went against John, I had no idea what I
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Speaker 1: was gonna do because I just had the feeling that
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Speaker 1: nothing was gonna work. And that was kind of the
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Speaker 1: same thing with Tony and practice you go against me,
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Speaker 1: you had no idea what you were gonna do. You
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Speaker 1: would just try to be instinctive because having a plan
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Speaker 1: against him just didn't work. But against all the other guys,
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Speaker 1: I was always confident against them. And uh, but Tony,
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Speaker 1: I I mean going against him at practice sometimes it
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Speaker 1: was it was self deflating because you you would lose
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Speaker 1: your confidence going against him because he was just that good.
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Speaker 1: And that was at our practice tempo. But I think
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Speaker 1: the one unique trait about Tony I think that the
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Speaker 1: other guys did not have is the attitude and the
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Speaker 1: aggressiveness in the run game. Because most of the left
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Speaker 1: tackles they just wanted to go ahead and protect the
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Speaker 1: quarterback and not allow sack and and to to do
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Speaker 1: the tango so to he can pass protection. But Tony
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Speaker 1: was willing to get dirty in the run game. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he didn't want to just block you. He wanted to
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Speaker 1: block you and embury you at the end and get
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Speaker 1: a pancake or to somehow push your nose in the dirt.
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Speaker 1: And that was what was set what separated Tony from
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Speaker 1: the other left tackles in that era. We're hearing from
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Speaker 1: some others this week in Atlanta who have some perspective
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Speaker 1: on Tony Boselli and his chances to get in the
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. One of those a guy who played
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Speaker 1: with him in college, Willia mc ginnis, now of the
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Speaker 1: NFL Network. He was my worst battle, some of my
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Speaker 1: worst battles. One because he knew me so well, because
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Speaker 1: he saw me a practice every day. But too um,
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Speaker 1: just because he would figure things out and he would adjust. Um,
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Speaker 1: just his ability, his footwork, his length, long arms, just
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Speaker 1: his aggressiveness, his mentality, I mean, the guy's judes. And
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Speaker 1: then to have a great athletic skill set for a
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Speaker 1: left tackle. He was unbelievable there. John Robinson used to
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Speaker 1: have to line them up against each other because nobody
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Speaker 1: else on the team could line up against either one
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Speaker 1: of those guys. In practice. They get crushed, right, I
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Speaker 1: mean they got they got crushed. You know, some of
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Speaker 1: the left tackles that I went against. I mean I
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Speaker 1: played against Willie Rove, I played against Walter Jones and
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Speaker 1: John Ogden, and Walter Jones was the real deal. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he was a guy that was very physical. He would
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Speaker 1: drive people. We didn't quite have the nasty finish that
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Speaker 1: Tony had, but I mean he he was a tremendous player.
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Speaker 1: But but the Tony was the best out of all
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Speaker 1: those guys. And you know, the one the only thing
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Speaker 1: that Tony doesn't have right now is the longevity that
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Speaker 1: those guys and that's the one thing that is has
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Speaker 1: and and may hold him back. And with Trell Davis
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Speaker 1: going in now, that would give an argument to support
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Speaker 1: Tony's case. Now we'll see the list of some short
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Speaker 1: time Hall of famers coming up in a moment. Brian
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Speaker 1: Billy had to scheme against Tony at one point and
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Speaker 1: recollected some of those memories this he has been wanted
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Speaker 1: to dominant great tackles in this league worthy of a
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. What a luxury it is to start
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Speaker 1: the meeting and going, okay, we don't have to worry
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Speaker 1: about that. We don't have to turn this lying that way,
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Speaker 1: we don't have to chip over there, We're not to
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Speaker 1: put the tight end over there. We're okay on the
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Speaker 1: left side. And that's that's a hell of an advantage
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Speaker 1: to start with, no doubt. Brian Billick, longtime head coach
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Speaker 1: in the league, of course, and uh, good compliments there.
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Speaker 1: Uh the NFL draft of four Hall of famers already. Uh,
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Speaker 1: there's only a handful of players elected to the Pro
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Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame that have played seven seasons or
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Speaker 1: fewer in the league, or a six or fewer seasons.
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Speaker 1: That's a very limited list, and um, we'll get to
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Speaker 1: that coming up on Jaguars dot Com. But there's one
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Speaker 1: player in Lee history, Ernie Nevers, played for five years.
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Speaker 1: This is way back in the early sixties, you know,
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Speaker 1: like in the fifties, way back. But those those kind
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Speaker 1: of lists, guys don't come around too often. Terrell Davis
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Speaker 1: is the latest of those. About seven year is in
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Speaker 1: the league. Um, and then uh, you know there's a
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Speaker 1: safety last year that got in that was a seven
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Speaker 1: year guy in the league. And that's about it. So, um,
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Speaker 1: that doesn't come around too often. Tony, I think of
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Speaker 1: Fisher would be what an eight year player he did
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Speaker 1: he had that two thousand two season. He did not
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Speaker 1: play in Houston, but I think that counts for his total. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: The the the interesting I think conversation is is that
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Speaker 1: that you know, could compare what other offensive lineman are
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Speaker 1: or could possibly be elected to the Hall of Fame
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Speaker 1: this year. And you've got, uh help me out here.
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Speaker 1: You got Fanica, you have Kevin Maui and then Hutchinsons. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so these are the four guys, oh, interior guys. Tony's
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Speaker 1: the only tackle exactly. And I watched all of these guys,
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Speaker 1: played against some of these guys in some cases, and
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Speaker 1: I will tell you that I think Fannica it was
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Speaker 1: a really good player on on a really good team,
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Speaker 1: one of the historic teams in the National Football League,
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Speaker 1: and that certainly helps his case out. But he wasn't
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Speaker 1: dominant like Tony. And then uh, Kevin long career, the
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Speaker 1: longevity certainly will help him. But I don't think that
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Speaker 1: Kevin will I possessed the dominance of Tony Basselli. Now
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Speaker 1: Steve Hutchinson played the game at a dominant level like
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Speaker 1: Tony Basselli at the guard position. I think those are
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Speaker 1: the two guys. I think that that really have separated
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Speaker 1: their level of play from everybody else in this Hall
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Speaker 1: of Fame class. When you talk about offensive lineman, you
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Speaker 1: see it if you're watching the Jaguars dot comly and
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Speaker 1: trying players with the fewest seasons played in the Hall
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Speaker 1: of Fame seven seasons. Seven players had seven seasons and
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Speaker 1: got into ll Davis Kenney easily was the safety both
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Speaker 1: in the class of three players with six season at
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Speaker 1: the time and earning never's fullback from the And an
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Speaker 1: interesting thing about that list, I mean, the only really
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Speaker 1: two modern era of guys that made it in was
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Speaker 1: seven seasons are less or Terrell Davis and Kenny Easily.
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Speaker 1: I mean so which I ought to tell you that
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Speaker 1: the longevity is critical for Hall of Fame induction. But
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Speaker 1: those two guys in that class of seventeen certainly helped
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Speaker 1: Tony's case these last couple of seasons to get where
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Speaker 1: he is and hopefully on Saturday as well, it's come back. Hey,
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Speaker 1: we'll go to Atlanta again. John Oser joins us and
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Speaker 1: Pete Frisco, CBS Sports senior writer. What why the face? Well,
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Speaker 1: because I mean those two used to be running mates
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Speaker 1: back in the day when they were covering d Tony Boselli.
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Speaker 1: going in the Hall of Fame. They're They're obvious first
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Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famers. I think most people think Champ
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Speaker 1: Bailey's going in. That's three. That leaves two spots, and
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Speaker 1: I think the obvious place you look is maybe in
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Speaker 1: the offensive line to put one of those guys in. Now,
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Speaker 1: I think it should be Tony BASSELLI. I think he
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Speaker 1: of Fame Class of the Vote. Coming up Saturday in Atlanta.
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Speaker 1: We go now to the World by the Georgia World
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Speaker 1: hello to the dynamic duo of John Osier and Pete Prisco.
21:59
Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's up, JP. How are you, Buddy good Man?
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Speaker 1: I hope everything's well in Atlanta. It seems like it is.
22:06
Speaker 1: It's cold, they're really cold, but we're both we're both sick.
22:10
Speaker 1: But it's good now. You guys both look sick, legitimately sick.
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Speaker 1: I had to go get a couple of shots. And hey, Jeff,
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Speaker 1: of shots. You feel better. They wanted to give me
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22:26
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Speaker 1: It should I would have taken it. It would have
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Speaker 1: made you feel like like a million bucks. I can
22:33
Speaker 1: tell you that right enough to pay Pete. He would
22:38
Speaker 1: have got a day out of it, maybe two days. Hey, guys,
22:41
Speaker 1: let's let's start, obviously with the Tony WASSELLI stuff. We
22:43
Speaker 1: just had Tony on the phone in the first segment here.
22:45
Speaker 1: His nerves are kind of there. You know, he's um.
22:48
Speaker 1: You know, I think he's starting to get knows what
22:51
Speaker 1: this process is about now. I think it's a better
22:53
Speaker 1: way to know the feeling about Tony this week. But
22:56
Speaker 1: it seems like there's a little more momentum. Peter we
22:59
Speaker 1: off here. No, you're not off you And and you know,
23:02
Speaker 1: maybe people run from me now when they see me
23:04
Speaker 1: because they know I'm gonna start pitching him on on Tony.
23:07
Speaker 1: But that's one of the reasons. Yeah, well, well yeah,
23:09
Speaker 1: that's right. But I mean I'm getting I'm getting a
23:12
Speaker 1: really good feel this time around from a lot of
23:14
Speaker 1: guys that guys that haven't even been on board with it.
23:17
Speaker 1: And and again it goes back to the log jam
23:19
Speaker 1: of the offensive lineman. I think there's a real sentiment
23:22
Speaker 1: in that room to to get maybe one maybe even
23:24
Speaker 1: two of those guys in this year. And and you
23:27
Speaker 1: know what, Tony is the best of the group. We
23:29
Speaker 1: all know that. Um, it's just a matter of convincing
23:32
Speaker 1: those people out there. I was having an argument with
23:33
Speaker 1: the guy today. They were talking about, well, the player
23:35
Speaker 1: Torell Davis played in a short career, but look what
23:37
Speaker 1: he did in the playoffs. What a Tony doing in
23:39
Speaker 1: the playoffs? Like, well, he took the defensive player of
23:41
Speaker 1: the year and and and abused him in a one
23:43
Speaker 1: on one situation. The guy didn't come near the quarterback
23:46
Speaker 1: and he blew him off the ball and they ran
23:47
Speaker 1: for a bunch of yards. I mean, so it's hard
23:49
Speaker 1: to you know, you can't use stats to show that,
23:52
Speaker 1: but you have to tell the story that way, right,
23:53
Speaker 1: And he was just as good against And think about Tony,
23:56
Speaker 1: and we both saw hi Jeff played against him. He
23:59
Speaker 1: wasn't just good against Bruce. He wasn't just good the
24:01
Speaker 1: day he played Derrick Thomas. He was that good every game,
24:05
Speaker 1: at a games, whatever it was he played. He was
24:08
Speaker 1: at that level eight seven or eight eight of my
24:10
Speaker 1: Euston Marvel and we sat next to each other in
24:13
Speaker 1: the press box, Pete and you would never see him
24:15
Speaker 1: not only not give up a sack, you would never
24:18
Speaker 1: see him out of position. You would never see guys
24:20
Speaker 1: get close. I asked him once about a sack that
24:22
Speaker 1: I thought he gave up, and he said, ah, yeah,
24:24
Speaker 1: the guards stepped on my foot on that was like.
24:27
Speaker 1: And the point is there were so few situations where
24:30
Speaker 1: he ever got beat or handled. Uh. He was best
24:33
Speaker 1: I ever saw that the one the one game, and
24:35
Speaker 1: he'll admit to this, and he said he just didn't
24:39
Speaker 1: have the mindset. Jonathan Quinn was playing quarterback and everybody
24:42
Speaker 1: knew that it was gonna be a bad night and
24:44
Speaker 1: he and he gave up a couple of sis. It
24:46
Speaker 1: was perfect astrot or whatever. The turf was, game with
24:49
Speaker 1: the crowd, the whole thing, and he gave up a
24:51
Speaker 1: couple a couple of sacks. That yeah, John Randalls so
24:54
Speaker 1: but I once saw a Freeny dominate Jonathan Ogden, really
24:57
Speaker 1: wroth gave in, gave up five sacks to Chuck's myth.
25:00
Speaker 1: Every tackle has that one game. But I'm with you, Pete,
25:03
Speaker 1: in talking to people this year and in talking to
25:06
Speaker 1: people who in the past didn't pooh poo Tony's uh
25:10
Speaker 1: campas but they weren't necessarily on board with it. Talking
25:13
Speaker 1: to a writer today said, hey, it sounds like the
25:16
Speaker 1: log jam is getting broken and and people who don't
25:19
Speaker 1: know the log jam is the offensive lineman. There's four
25:21
Speaker 1: offensive lineman and they feel like it's it's doing the
25:23
Speaker 1: same thing to the offensive lineman, and that is into
25:26
Speaker 1: receivers a few years back. It's keeping guys out because
25:29
Speaker 1: they're taking the vote away, and it's it's fragmenting the vote.
25:32
Speaker 1: There's a feeling that a lineman's gonna get in and
25:34
Speaker 1: the more people that people talk to, Bisselly is the
25:37
Speaker 1: first name that comes up among those linemen. Jacoby is
25:40
Speaker 1: now out of it, so there's no more split tackle vote. Uh.
25:44
Speaker 1: I hate to say it because I felt like he
25:45
Speaker 1: was getting in last year. But more so than ever, Pete,
25:49
Speaker 1: I feel like, if it's not this year, when that
25:52
Speaker 1: log gym gets broken, in one of those next three years,
25:56
Speaker 1: Tony's gonna be wearing a goldjack. Yeah. I think it's
25:58
Speaker 1: this year. I do, and I'm and I want to
26:00
Speaker 1: get everybody's hopes up. But you know me, I passed
26:03
Speaker 1: to the heck of these guys that send them emails.
26:04
Speaker 1: I talked to him and everything else. You went from
26:06
Speaker 1: being his enemy to his agent. Yeah, I'm his agent.
26:09
Speaker 1: Just all I wanted to do is when he does
26:11
Speaker 1: get in and he gives his speech, I want him
26:13
Speaker 1: to tell the hall it's time for me to get in.
26:15
Speaker 1: They could do that. You can pay back. It could
26:17
Speaker 1: pay me back. I mean, you know, put me in.
26:23
Speaker 1: There is capital so so serious question here with Fannica,
26:28
Speaker 1: Maai and Hutchinson the other offensive line and that are
26:32
Speaker 1: a possibility of getting in the hall um who might
26:36
Speaker 1: take away votes from Tony Bosell. It feels to me, Pete,
26:40
Speaker 1: and you're much more in terms of talking people about
26:43
Speaker 1: all season than I am. I feel like it's Bissellian May.
26:47
Speaker 1: I feel like that's the conversation more than anything I
26:51
Speaker 1: said voter Timmy's a few minutes ago, mainly because Mair
26:54
Speaker 1: has got the two markets, when of them the New
26:56
Speaker 1: York market, and it feels like there's two factions that
26:59
Speaker 1: might be in his favor. Again, so much as this
27:03
Speaker 1: is theoretical because there's so many voters and you talk
27:05
Speaker 1: to a handful of him, but that's my feeling, Maire.
27:08
Speaker 1: I think Tony and and May and the two me personally,
27:11
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Jeff. I think your spot on
27:13
Speaker 1: when you talk about those guys. I think your description
27:16
Speaker 1: of of those four guys is accurate. From my viewpoint
27:20
Speaker 1: as well. Tony was by far and away the best
27:22
Speaker 1: of the group. I don't think there's any question about that.
27:25
Speaker 1: But the second best of the group was Steve Hutchinson.
27:27
Speaker 1: He he was dominant, much like Tony was at his position.
27:30
Speaker 1: Then I think third will be maai and fourth for
27:32
Speaker 1: me would be fantic. I think. But when I's got
27:34
Speaker 1: that little trump card and these catch phrases get involved
27:38
Speaker 1: with the room, I assume of well, he was the
27:41
Speaker 1: best center of his generation, and he was, But was
27:45
Speaker 1: he necessarily better than Hutchinson was at guard in that generation?
27:49
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. No, he was, he was not. Hutchinson
27:53
Speaker 1: was a better player than Kevin Mawa. That'll be the battle, Beselly.
27:56
Speaker 1: Best left tackle of his generation, may best center of
27:59
Speaker 1: his generation. That will, I would think, confuse people in
28:03
Speaker 1: the room. See it would be a conflict. You can't
28:05
Speaker 1: do is throw out Pro Bowls. They mean nothing, and
28:07
Speaker 1: then you it's funny everybody sits here when the Pro
28:10
Speaker 1: Bowl voting happens and the guys make the Pro Bowl
28:12
Speaker 1: and everybody poop loose it. That doesn't mean anything in garbage.
28:15
Speaker 1: You know, fans vote and everything else. And then when
28:16
Speaker 1: you get in the room, they prop up Pro bowls,
28:19
Speaker 1: hit the print out. That's it's. Yeah, it makes no
28:22
Speaker 1: sense to me. So for me, I do think he's
28:25
Speaker 1: getting in, though I did. Here here's another one. I
28:27
Speaker 1: was talking to a guy today and we were talking
28:29
Speaker 1: about the other other players, and and he said, well,
28:32
Speaker 1: I said, Champ Bailey should be one of the locks, right,
28:34
Speaker 1: and he's, oh, tye law, you know, they gotta get
28:36
Speaker 1: those New England one of those somebody from those New
28:38
Speaker 1: England teams in there. Do you was he a better
28:41
Speaker 1: player than Champ Bailey? No, I believe, I mean some
28:44
Speaker 1: people think so. But the arment right, well, what about
28:48
Speaker 1: the numbers of those two guys? Bailey had more Pro Bowls?
28:53
Speaker 1: The Pro Bowls don't matter, right, Bailey was a better player.
28:55
Speaker 1: Your eyes can tell about stories sometimes, and he was
28:58
Speaker 1: a better player. So just because he played on a
29:01
Speaker 1: good day, you know, Okay, they keep saying we gotta
29:03
Speaker 1: get somebody from those New England dynasty end Brady and
29:06
Speaker 1: Bill are getting in. Rights, I mean, McGinnis is McGinnis.
29:10
Speaker 1: The Hall of Famer is Richard Seymour Hall of Famer?
29:14
Speaker 1: Was Law better than Seymour? I would say Law is
29:17
Speaker 1: a little better than Seymour overall for the course of
29:18
Speaker 1: his career. It's bigger probably, Uh. I would put Law
29:24
Speaker 1: third behind Brady and okay, it's Brady probably into it's
29:31
Speaker 1: Brady Belichick ground right, And then you could count Randy
29:34
Speaker 1: Moss for those two years. But he really wasn't a Patriot.
29:36
Speaker 1: But that's it. The other guys, they're all really good players,
29:39
Speaker 1: and they have a real chance to get into the
29:40
Speaker 1: Hall down the road, but they're not slam dunks. Jeff,
29:43
Speaker 1: who do you think was better Seymour or Law or
29:47
Speaker 1: or McGinnis. I don't know. I mean, you're talking about
29:51
Speaker 1: three great players. I don't know. I mean, that's Ty Law,
29:54
Speaker 1: you probably have more memorable plays from. But Richard Seymour
29:59
Speaker 1: playing player out of the ability the flexibility that he
30:02
Speaker 1: had to play inside, play outside. He was kind of
30:04
Speaker 1: like Clais Campbell a little bit in that respect. Before
30:07
Speaker 1: Clais Campbell, uh, and William McGuinness was one hell of
30:11
Speaker 1: a player on the outside, you know. So I don't know.
30:14
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a great arguments only had ten
30:16
Speaker 1: sacks one year. Jason Taylor only had ten sacks three years. Yeah,
30:20
Speaker 1: and he got in. He got in. And there's another
30:24
Speaker 1: that was the last for me. On that list, Richard
30:28
Speaker 1: Seymour would be second, Tyler would be first. Man. How
30:30
Speaker 1: many how many career interceptions does tayl Aw have? We
30:33
Speaker 1: had a lot in the big in the big games too,
30:35
Speaker 1: had a lot in the postseason. I'd love to see
30:37
Speaker 1: like a Champ barely compared to ty Law career in interceptions. Yeah,
30:41
Speaker 1: but but Tony, I mean, Jeff, you would you would
30:44
Speaker 1: agree that watching it, just from observing it, Champ was
30:47
Speaker 1: a better player. Yeah, I think he was a better player.
30:50
Speaker 1: But ty Law had famous moments, but you can't. And
30:54
Speaker 1: it's the Hall of Fame. I mean, that's I think
30:56
Speaker 1: that's the one thing I think that Vic Catchman taught
30:59
Speaker 1: me years ago and kind of had to correct me,
31:02
Speaker 1: because you know, I was sitting there whining and complaining
31:06
Speaker 1: that the offensive lineman there weren't enough of him getting
31:08
Speaker 1: in or defensive tackles, and Vic had to remind me
31:13
Speaker 1: that it's the Hall of Fame, which doesn't mean the
31:16
Speaker 1: Hall of Great Players. So because there is a difference
31:20
Speaker 1: now Vick also came from the Steelers, we thought he'd
31:25
Speaker 1: put everybody in, you know. I mean, here's the problem
31:28
Speaker 1: with the Hall of Fame. They're putting too many good
31:31
Speaker 1: too many good players from great teams in and not
31:34
Speaker 1: enough great players from bad teams. And the other problem
31:36
Speaker 1: that has come up in the last couple of years
31:38
Speaker 1: is there's all of a sudden, this rush. This was
31:40
Speaker 1: a topic last year of her Lacker gets in last year,
31:45
Speaker 1: and there was this feeling and I think we talked
31:48
Speaker 1: about a pete that oh, well, he's gonna be in
31:51
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, so he has to get in
31:52
Speaker 1: first ballot or he's been wronged. And I think that's
31:56
Speaker 1: gonna happen with Champ this year. I think people will think, oh,
31:59
Speaker 1: we've got to get him in and he should be
32:00
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. In the old days, there
32:02
Speaker 1: wasn't this first ballot magic. We're all of a sudden
32:04
Speaker 1: if a guy didn't get in, he was being wrong
32:06
Speaker 1: And I think some voters, what are they gonna say
32:09
Speaker 1: on Twitter if this guy doesn't get in, the process
32:12
Speaker 1: is gonna get rid. I think that hurt Tony last year,
32:15
Speaker 1: and you just wonder if they're not shoving guys forward
32:18
Speaker 1: in their process, because all Hall voters talk about the process,
32:21
Speaker 1: whether it should be or not. There's a process of
32:23
Speaker 1: them trying to get certain guys, certain positions in and
32:26
Speaker 1: I think that's sort of gummed up the works, if
32:28
Speaker 1: you will. The Supreme Court justices they get us, there's
32:31
Speaker 1: a little lot of that, and it's, uh, yeah, it's there.
32:34
Speaker 1: It's a there's an elite feel too that room. And look,
32:39
Speaker 1: I'm not in that room. You'll be in. It's I
32:41
Speaker 1: don't want to be in it. I could do more,
32:43
Speaker 1: No I don't. I can do more help for guys
32:46
Speaker 1: outside that room, to be honest with you. And once
32:48
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32:54
Speaker 1: getting bombed on Fred. He's gonna be in the room.
32:56
Speaker 1: He's gonna be the get the Writer's Award at some point.
32:59
Speaker 1: What I'm saying he should be in the room, I'm
33:00
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33:01
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33:03
Speaker 1: I would be wearing a gold jacket in that room.
33:05
Speaker 1: You will be there. Let's come backy Pete, you got
33:07
Speaker 1: a few minutes more. Yeah, okay, let's come back. Let's
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Speaker 1: good long term that helps him out. Whether it's gonna
37:05
Speaker 1: work this week, we'll see, but again, ultimately it's gonna work.
37:09
Speaker 1: The Professor John Clayton in Atlanta on Radio Row, longtime
37:13
Speaker 1: ESPN contributor, hosting radio in Seattle, Tony to Selly's Day
37:18
Speaker 1: coming up on Sunday, hopefully. The Selection Committee for the
37:21
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame meeting Saturday afternoon in Atlanta.
37:25
Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lagerman in Jacksonville. We go back
37:28
Speaker 1: to Atlanta now, were joined by John Osier and Pete Prisco.
37:32
Speaker 1: By the way, to wrap up our Taie Law Champ
37:34
Speaker 1: Bailey thing law with fifty three interceptions, champ Bailey with
37:38
Speaker 1: fifty two interceptions rightoth Hall of Famers. It's like these
37:43
Speaker 1: voters always saying it really is true. If you're in
37:46
Speaker 1: that top fifteen, you're a Hall of Fame player. It's
37:49
Speaker 1: just a matter of the process work. By the way,
37:51
Speaker 1: there are rumors that next year, for the hundredth anniversary
37:54
Speaker 1: of the Hall of Fame of the NFL, that they're
37:57
Speaker 1: gonna expand the class to should be I don't they didn't.
38:01
Speaker 1: I haven't heard, but I would imagine, like you know,
38:03
Speaker 1: another three or four or something like that, maybe just
38:06
Speaker 1: for that year or for the year. Yeah, because they
38:09
Speaker 1: it should be more. It should be expanded to seven.
38:11
Speaker 1: You got forty four guy, you know, forty four guys
38:14
Speaker 1: counting offensive defense, and and you only put five in.
38:18
Speaker 1: There's so many positions in sport, and like right, NBA
38:21
Speaker 1: you got five positions. So what you're saying is that
38:25
Speaker 1: if they expand that next year, which is not anything
38:29
Speaker 1: in bedrock, that's chance if they do that would be
38:33
Speaker 1: almost assured next year if they would do something. Who
38:39
Speaker 1: I'm not getting in that one. I want to get
38:41
Speaker 1: in the other one. That's hilarious. You're in your own
38:44
Speaker 1: hall of fame, longest longest tenured guy. I wanted cover
38:47
Speaker 1: in the NFL one internet site that there is in
38:51
Speaker 1: my campaign. My question to you guys to just get
38:53
Speaker 1: sidetracked away from Tony Boselli here for a minute. You
38:57
Speaker 1: guys have watched covered many Super Bowls in uh in
39:01
Speaker 1: your past. What do you guys feeling this weekend about
39:04
Speaker 1: the about the big game? It's so hard to pick
39:08
Speaker 1: against the Patriots in this and and you're not picking
39:12
Speaker 1: against him, well, hell no, And I think this will
39:15
Speaker 1: be in at as silly. It sounds of an organization.
39:19
Speaker 1: This won five. This would be the most impressive, the
39:23
Speaker 1: most legacy defining, because this to me would clearly be
39:27
Speaker 1: a year where they want it where I'm not sure
39:30
Speaker 1: they were the best team for most of the year.
39:32
Speaker 1: There have been teams that have won that way before,
39:34
Speaker 1: uh and it it would define to me Bill Belichick
39:38
Speaker 1: if he hasn't already as the best coach of our
39:41
Speaker 1: general this is his best coaching job ever right here.
39:43
Speaker 1: And he's had great ones. This is by far as best.
39:46
Speaker 1: You guys saw the team early in the year, it
39:48
Speaker 1: was a mess right then. They had to struggles in
39:50
Speaker 1: the middle of the year. They lost that game against
39:52
Speaker 1: Miami on that foot play, And everybody always sits there
39:56
Speaker 1: and says, assigned the barry of the Patriots, the dynasty
39:58
Speaker 1: is over. What we don't consider is Belichick always gets
40:02
Speaker 1: the defense playing better at the end of the year,
40:04
Speaker 1: and he takes young pieces and he moves them around.
40:07
Speaker 1: He kind of experiments during the regular season, and he's capable.
40:10
Speaker 1: He's allowed to do that because the division stinks, so
40:12
Speaker 1: he can't experiment, and he experiments with guys like Jones
40:15
Speaker 1: and Jackson in the secondary, and then they get it
40:17
Speaker 1: right and they play so many different guys. I was
40:20
Speaker 1: ranking the starters in this game last week, and it's
40:23
Speaker 1: hard to rank the Patriots because they use so many
40:24
Speaker 1: different combinations on offense and defense. So it's for me,
40:28
Speaker 1: I think this is the greatness of Bill Belichick. What
40:31
Speaker 1: they're gonna do in this game is gonna be so
40:33
Speaker 1: Belichick in And by that I mean they're going to
40:36
Speaker 1: beat up the receivers of the Rams. And on offense,
40:39
Speaker 1: they are going to let Aaron Donald come flying up
40:42
Speaker 1: the field. They're gonna wham him about twenty two thousand
40:44
Speaker 1: times this week. Five defensive holding penalties in the first half,
40:48
Speaker 1: none in the second half. And they're gonna run the
40:51
Speaker 1: ball right at You know, the Rams have had trouble
40:54
Speaker 1: running ball, Jeff. You'll know this when you have a
40:55
Speaker 1: little defense and they're little. Look, Aaron Donald's great, but
40:58
Speaker 1: he's little. Mark Barron's a up safety playing linebacker's little
41:01
Speaker 1: Littleton's little. You can run right at those guys and
41:04
Speaker 1: they don't like it. Usually those kind of guys don't
41:06
Speaker 1: like to be run at. So I think they're good.
41:08
Speaker 1: They like to have the lead the past. I think
41:10
Speaker 1: they're gonna run the ball this week. Interesting stuff there. Hey,
41:15
Speaker 1: let's talk a little Jaguars here. Earlier today on Jaguars
41:18
Speaker 1: dot Com, John Osier, who was on this program, currently
41:21
Speaker 1: caught up with Mark Quislee, Jaguars wider. Ciro was in Atlanta.
41:25
Speaker 1: He's recovering from a knee issue. And yes, it was
41:28
Speaker 1: very tough to watch on the side of this year
41:29
Speaker 1: for number eleven. I'm a sick. I'm a say, especially
41:33
Speaker 1: no with the type of position we had. As far
41:34
Speaker 1: as as a team, um, um, when we fell short
41:37
Speaker 1: this year, we had a lot of injuries and things
41:39
Speaker 1: like that. We're just learning. No excuse because the NFL,
41:41
Speaker 1: you know you have them, but um, we fell short.
41:44
Speaker 1: We just gotta come back snoger next year. Um. As
41:46
Speaker 1: far as me sitting on the outside of watching sick,
41:48
Speaker 1: name you know, besides the fact that's losing it, I'm
41:51
Speaker 1: just sick. The fact that I can even be out
41:53
Speaker 1: there just contribute to us losing or to anything. You
41:56
Speaker 1: know I'm saying. I think is my teammates know for me,
41:58
Speaker 1: is it's about being out there and give them off
42:00
Speaker 1: of him and uh, I mean not being able to
42:01
Speaker 1: do that last year, it was difficult for him. John
42:05
Speaker 1: You visited with Marquis for a little bit longer today.
42:08
Speaker 1: The full interview available on Jaguars dot com. His mood
42:11
Speaker 1: is pretty bright right now. It sounds like, well, he's
42:13
Speaker 1: feeling closer to being back, uh than he certainly did
42:17
Speaker 1: during the season. And the good news is when he
42:19
Speaker 1: first heard his knee, you weren't sure what the future
42:22
Speaker 1: was for him, and it was a it was a devastating,
42:25
Speaker 1: ugly injury. The word around the building has been and
42:27
Speaker 1: and and and Marquis said it this week. He's further
42:30
Speaker 1: ahead than they expected to be. He ain't to be
42:32
Speaker 1: back for the good season. I don't know if he'll
42:35
Speaker 1: be immediately back to what he was in two thousands seventeen,
42:39
Speaker 1: but they need him. He was important for a lot
42:40
Speaker 1: of reasons. A third down, he was their toughest receiver,
42:43
Speaker 1: he was their best run blocker receiver. They missed him
42:46
Speaker 1: a lot more than people thought they did this year. Yeah,
42:47
Speaker 1: he's a good player. I mean, look, he's the number
42:49
Speaker 1: one receiver though, but he's a two. And now they
42:52
Speaker 1: got to find a one, uh or somebody has to
42:54
Speaker 1: merge as the one. I mean, you draft a chart,
42:56
Speaker 1: uh pretty high. I don't know if he could be
42:58
Speaker 1: a one, but I don't think that Markis can be
43:01
Speaker 1: a big part of the team. Again, though, that thing
43:03
Speaker 1: was spaghetti, right, I mean it was every one of
43:05
Speaker 1: a couple of different ligaments in that kneed that went
43:10
Speaker 1: been no official word. All the word is though, is
43:12
Speaker 1: that they use is significant. Yeah, So I mean that
43:16
Speaker 1: that's always a concern. He's lucky if there was no
43:19
Speaker 1: nerve damage. I mean we've seen that with the injuries
43:21
Speaker 1: lately too, with like Jalen Smith, and he came back
43:23
Speaker 1: and he's played at a high level. So everything you
43:25
Speaker 1: hear is that he's further ahead and ake. But every
43:27
Speaker 1: surgery we hear they're always further ahead than we expect.
43:30
Speaker 1: You always hear that. I think the one thing about
43:33
Speaker 1: that play that still bothers me to this day is
43:35
Speaker 1: that it was unnecessary. It was a cheap shot. He
43:38
Speaker 1: didn't need to go low, and he did in a
43:40
Speaker 1: preseason game. I'm gonna come on, and that guy, you know,
43:42
Speaker 1: he did it again later in the season. So yeah,
43:45
Speaker 1: that's and we're talking about CAZy. This the safety for
43:48
Speaker 1: the for the Falcons, and he apologized, but like you
43:50
Speaker 1: shouldn't have done it. But again, let's just play it out.
43:53
Speaker 1: Mark Easley doesn't get hurt once he catched fifty passes
43:56
Speaker 1: this year at best. Yeah, but they are they missed
44:00
Speaker 1: been when you start talking abou a receiver for his
44:03
Speaker 1: run blocking, then he does some block linebackers and defensive
44:07
Speaker 1: tackles on a regular base. I'm not saying they go
44:09
Speaker 1: fourteen two with him, but because they maybe even won
44:13
Speaker 1: one more game with him, yeah, probably, Let's just say
44:16
Speaker 1: it would have helped, would have been any worse, It
44:19
Speaker 1: could have been any worse with that offense. Where are
44:22
Speaker 1: you standing right now? Pete on Um free agency draft?
44:27
Speaker 1: Really do at quarterback? Right now? If you're gonna pick today,
44:30
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna sniff around Nick Foles provided these
44:33
Speaker 1: free and he's gonna be free. They can't keep them.
44:35
Speaker 1: He's gonna be free. They can can talk all they
44:37
Speaker 1: want about we might put the tag on No, you're not.
44:39
Speaker 1: First off, you got the issue with Wentz. Now supposedly
44:42
Speaker 1: that story came out bad Logger room. You can't bring
44:44
Speaker 1: Folds back. You can't if once he is your guy,
44:46
Speaker 1: you can't bring Folds back. They know that. Everybody knows that,
44:48
Speaker 1: so they can't. They can't tag him. So what's he
44:51
Speaker 1: gonna do. He's gonna buy out his obviously gonna become
44:52
Speaker 1: a free agent, and the market is very limited for him.
44:55
Speaker 1: People keep saying, oh, where the where are all the options?
44:58
Speaker 1: In Miami they're rebuilding, they're not gonn going after him.
45:01
Speaker 1: In uh Denver, they're talking about draft and Drew Locker
45:04
Speaker 1: or quarterback in the first round, So they won't go
45:06
Speaker 1: after him. Washington would they? Would they go after him?
45:08
Speaker 1: Maybe that's a possibility. They can't afford them, but so
45:13
Speaker 1: I think I think it's a situation where the market's
45:15
Speaker 1: very limited. Jacksonville might actually get a good price on them,
45:18
Speaker 1: and that's a good price in this market. Yeah, would
45:22
Speaker 1: I give that to up Form? Probably not, But but
45:24
Speaker 1: this is a regime that needs to win. Now how
45:26
Speaker 1: much better? And this is obviously the million dollar question
45:29
Speaker 1: with him. You're obviously gonna pay a lot, and you're
45:32
Speaker 1: probably gonna overpay because you always pay for courting crazy.
45:36
Speaker 1: There's no question he makes you better. You follow the
45:39
Speaker 1: whole league more than we do. How much better does
45:42
Speaker 1: he make it? And is it worth set, you put
45:46
Speaker 1: a tag, well, he also got a factor in what
45:48
Speaker 1: they're gonna do in addition to it. Let's just say
45:51
Speaker 1: they pay him twenty three. Well, then in your draft
45:53
Speaker 1: you can maybe take the offensive tackles sitting there. Maybe
45:56
Speaker 1: you get the kid from Alabama. I don't think it
45:58
Speaker 1: will be that. It might not be either that far.
45:59
Speaker 1: But if you get the other tackle from Florida, then
46:01
Speaker 1: you play him at left tackle. I think you move
46:03
Speaker 1: the other kid over to the right songem Cam Robinson
46:06
Speaker 1: the right tackle, and then you're Norwell and Linda who
46:10
Speaker 1: knows where they come back, but they should be back,
46:12
Speaker 1: and then you find a right guard all of a
46:13
Speaker 1: sudden by not drafting a quarterback. Which I'm a big
46:17
Speaker 1: draft and developed guy, but this regime needs to win.
46:20
Speaker 1: Now they've kind of solved their offensive line issues. You
46:23
Speaker 1: hope Chalk can come back and draft the receiver uh
46:26
Speaker 1: in the draft, and then you go from there and
46:27
Speaker 1: you never know what four net to be one answer
46:30
Speaker 1: to tight end? How do you solve tight end receiver?
46:32
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to overhaul receiver, as mentioned
46:35
Speaker 1: a lot outsiders do. I think they'll have essentially the
46:37
Speaker 1: same receiver something's got to get into Will you sniff
46:41
Speaker 1: around him? He's that better than the second round rookie. Uh,
46:44
Speaker 1: this is actually pretty good tight end draft class. So no,
46:46
Speaker 1: probably not. But can you fix it with a rookie
46:49
Speaker 1: tight end? Can you be good enough with a rookie
46:50
Speaker 1: tight end? Here's the problem. The complete tight end is
46:54
Speaker 1: no longer around, okay, So in their offense they want
46:57
Speaker 1: to be run base right, So if you're getting a
46:59
Speaker 1: tight end, you want them to be able to block,
47:01
Speaker 1: and they had a problem with that this year. Nobody
47:02
Speaker 1: could block. So but if you draft tight end the block,
47:07
Speaker 1: then then you're kind of defeating the purpose of drafting
47:09
Speaker 1: the second round. So you gotta be there's like kind
47:12
Speaker 1: of a fine line there, but there are some good
47:14
Speaker 1: tightish and almost asn't exists anymore as we think it's
47:16
Speaker 1: really they're talking to Greg Olsen today and he was
47:19
Speaker 1: saying how tough it is to play, but to block,
47:21
Speaker 1: you know, because he's a block. It was a blocker
47:23
Speaker 1: of a long time, and he could catch the ball.
47:25
Speaker 1: Those guys are almost going away. It's almost two positions
47:28
Speaker 1: in right, So what do they drafted? They draft a
47:30
Speaker 1: pass catching tight end or do they draft a run
47:33
Speaker 1: block tight end. You don't raft to run blocking tight
47:35
Speaker 1: end in the second round. But if you draft, if
47:36
Speaker 1: you went out and got cooked, then maybe you could
47:39
Speaker 1: draft a run block and tight end later in the
47:41
Speaker 1: later and maybe where the free agency money gets spent
47:43
Speaker 1: right outside of quarterback, right quarterback and tight end. Interesting
47:47
Speaker 1: stuff is we got a lot of time to discuss
47:50
Speaker 1: that over the next few months. Hey, guys, have a
47:52
Speaker 1: great rest of the week in Atlanta. Pete, Let's say
47:56
Speaker 1: you started like Bessell when you said that, because remember
47:58
Speaker 1: during in October when the things start going, I'd always go,
48:00
Speaker 1: let's talk fore agency in the draft, and you never
48:02
Speaker 1: want to talk about about the Hall Yeah, no, one way, yeah, right,
48:07
Speaker 1: one week at a time. Then we get the November.
48:09
Speaker 1: He's guy, Okay, we can talk about it now. Alright.
48:10
Speaker 1: So Pete, do you have a lot of money, because
48:15
Speaker 1: you know, there's nothing better to buy votes than cash. Alright,
48:20
Speaker 1: I mean there's what we're buying, a couple of votes
48:22
Speaker 1: when you need to like buy a beer for a
48:23
Speaker 1: guy who's got a Hall of Fame vote. Yeah, you
48:25
Speaker 1: know what, I like Theselly a lot and I want
48:28
Speaker 1: to get him in. But if he's buying votes. He's
48:30
Speaker 1: gonna have to come up with the cash. You know,
48:33
Speaker 1: if he's paying the pr for him, I'll I'll be
48:35
Speaker 1: more than happy today. You know, I'm not buying anybody anything.
48:39
Speaker 1: And I think the Jaguar should have given you a
48:41
Speaker 1: little bundle of cash and said here, any voter that
48:45
Speaker 1: needs to have a beer, okay on on the Jaguars,
48:48
Speaker 1: you know, unbeknownst to them, here you go. Well we've
48:51
Speaker 1: had Tom calling him around the around the so that'll help.
48:55
Speaker 1: I think it interesting how convincing he can be that's playing.
48:58
Speaker 1: See if he doesn't get in this year, Rob will
48:59
Speaker 1: do that next year. She was always good, I know. Alright, guys,
49:06
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49:15
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49:17
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49:23
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55:08
Speaker 1: fastest guy on the field, it can be. Yeah, Okay,
55:11
Speaker 1: so if he's the fastest guy on the field, then
55:15
Speaker 1: why not maybe line him up at at some point
55:19
Speaker 1: and let him go? Let him run? Okay, alright, look,
55:26
Speaker 1: I would love to see this unlike one of these
55:30
Speaker 1: let touchdown catches? Does J. J. Watt have few that year?
55:34
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, if somebody's in a great athletic talent,
55:39
Speaker 1: what I mean, why not? Yeah? Mh, I'm just saying that, Hey,
55:46
Speaker 1: let's um Atlanta. You're kind of surprised at your reaction, Like, like,
55:50
Speaker 1: I'm crazy for suggesting that Jalen Ramsey line up and
55:54
Speaker 1: play a wide receiver snap if if if a real
55:58
Speaker 1: corner lines up again to him and james him at
56:01
Speaker 1: the line, what's gonna happen? I mean, wait, maute, is
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Speaker 1: Jealen Ramsey not I know he's one of the greatest
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Speaker 1: athletes in the national football then what what would give
56:11
Speaker 1: you the impression that that's a joke that he could
56:14
Speaker 1: line up at wide receiver. I didn't say it was
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Speaker 1: a joke, no, but your reaction suggested that it was
56:19
Speaker 1: just not a big fan of it. Okay, I'm just
56:21
Speaker 1: rather are all pro corner and play corner. I'll ask Jalen,
56:23
Speaker 1: why do you think that he's a joke at wide receiver?
56:26
Speaker 1: Probably because that was a joke right there, I'll answer,
56:32
Speaker 1: I don't care. We blocked me on Twitter. If you
56:34
Speaker 1: on I don't care, Jay, who cares? Add me to
56:36
Speaker 1: the list? Um, Hey, Atlanta, Georgia side a Super Bowl
56:39
Speaker 1: fifty three. Let's take a look at our results of
56:43
Speaker 1: picks this season so far. You guys are both oh
56:46
Speaker 1: and two on Championship weekend. I, on the other hand,
56:49
Speaker 1: was one and one. Oh boy, that was so much better.
56:51
Speaker 1: I got the Patriots. So you're still in last place.
56:54
Speaker 1: So we all picked. And look at your record in
56:57
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I mean, yeah, look at any of our
57:00
Speaker 1: records in the playoff. We're pretty pathetic. Yeah, I'm three
57:03
Speaker 1: and seven. You're five and five v Silies leading the
57:06
Speaker 1: way at six and four in the playoffs. I know
57:07
Speaker 1: I was owing to last week, Yes, you were. I
57:11
Speaker 1: was not. I was owing two and this week. Uhh.
57:17
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots are playing their best football at
57:20
Speaker 1: the best time. I mean, think about what they've been
57:23
Speaker 1: able to do to to put it to the Chargers.
57:26
Speaker 1: Now they're at home, but then to go on the
57:29
Speaker 1: road and face an explosive Kansas City Chiefs defense, and
57:33
Speaker 1: the Patriots defense played light out to start that game,
57:37
Speaker 1: lights out, and for them to get to win in
57:40
Speaker 1: a hostile environment like kans City with a hot young
57:43
Speaker 1: quarterback unbelievable. And I mean the Patriots are playing their
57:47
Speaker 1: best football at the best time they could possibly be
57:51
Speaker 1: doing it. That now the Rams, but if d Ford's
57:54
Speaker 1: on side, then they lose the game. Maybe yeah, maybe
57:59
Speaker 1: not have been over but here, but here's the thing,
58:02
Speaker 1: what's wrong? What? What are you? What are you doing?
58:04
Speaker 1: D Ford? That had to be the dumbest penalty that
58:11
Speaker 1: happened maybe all season for defensive lineman to not be
58:15
Speaker 1: able to line up on side, that's embarrassing. But the
58:20
Speaker 1: Saints came into that championship game not playing great football
58:23
Speaker 1: on offense, not playing their best football, and I thought
58:27
Speaker 1: the Rams kind of snuck out of there, obviously with
58:29
Speaker 1: the controversial non qual at the end of that ball game.
58:33
Speaker 1: And uh, Golf, I don't think is playing what he
58:37
Speaker 1: was playing like earlier in the year. Talk Gurley. Obviously
58:39
Speaker 1: he's not playing like he was earlier in the year.
58:42
Speaker 1: And I think the Rams are getting by but they're not.
58:46
Speaker 1: They're not at their peak or playing their best football
58:50
Speaker 1: right now right And I think the Patriots win it,
58:52
Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna be a great game. But
58:54
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots winning experience in this level certainly helps. Also,
58:58
Speaker 1: the Patriots have been there so many times. And I
59:00
Speaker 1: think the other thing, too is what's the conversation been
59:02
Speaker 1: for the Rams for the last week and a half.
59:04
Speaker 1: So far, it's been about the note call, and they're
59:08
Speaker 1: trying to justify their their existence in the Super Bowl,
59:12
Speaker 1: whereas the Patriots all they're doing is concentrating on moving
59:15
Speaker 1: ahead and one another super Bowl. I've got the Patriots
59:19
Speaker 1: as well, clean sweep for us here basely, Logovan Shadrick.
59:22
Speaker 1: I'll have the Patriots six thirty kickoff time Atlanta for
59:24
Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty three. Should be a good one game.
59:28
Speaker 1: Logs will talk to you next week maybe if maybe
59:34
Speaker 1: I'll be there. Okay, I'm always here on Thursday, but
59:36
Speaker 1: Selly is the one that's never here. And if he
59:38
Speaker 1: gets selected a Hall of Fame, does he get like
59:41
Speaker 1: multiple weeks off? Maybe? So we'll see you next week.
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