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Football at Four: Ranking Eagles Hurts vs. Rest of Top NFL QBs · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Football and four powered by the Inside the birth Podcast,
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  brought to you by BET three sixty five. Whatever the sport,
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  whatever the moment, it's never ordinary. At BET three six',
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  Five Jeff moscher from The inside The births podcast is.
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  HERE i want to Get mosher's talk to you, KNOW
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  I goes asked a question this morning about What i'm
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  most excited about For eagles training. Camp you, Know eagles
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  training camp starts in less than two. Weeks The eagles
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  report On july twenty. Second their first practice Is july
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  the twenty, third and we'll be all over. That of,
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  course football at four every. Day so the QUESTION i
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  got asked this morning was what AM i most excited
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  about With eagles training camp? Starting AND i, mean you
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  could go with so many different, things you, know The
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  are you excited about a right guard? Battle probably, not
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  but at least there's like something to pay attention to.
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  There you got the cornerback, spot you got the safety,
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  spot you got the linebacking, spot you got all that
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  stuff going. On BUT i think for, me the thing
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  THAT i am most excited, about the thing THAT i
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  am most intrigued to watch this training camp is something
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  and it is apropos for this particular. Person it's the
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  one thing THAT i think everyone should be excited about
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  and everybody should be talking, about and yet with this particular,
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  player it's always being swept under the. Radar it is
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  kind of apropos For Jalen. Hurts what version Of Jalen
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  hurts are we going to get as the encore to
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  the guy who was THE mvp of The Super? Bowl
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  that is What i'm most excited. About what guy are
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  we getting when The Super bowl CHAMPION mvp steps out
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  on the field In? Dallas what's the next? Level what
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  more is there For Jalen? HURTS i think, that to
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  me is the biggest question and the biggest. Story and
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  WHEN i got asked a question, today what AM i
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  most excited? ABOUT i could, say what's the encore For Saquon.
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  BARKLEY i could, SAY i want to see how they
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  Use Jahid. CAMPBELL i could, say Is Drew bakuba going
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  to be a part of the. DEFENSE i could, say
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  What's Nolan smith going to? BE i can go With jalx's.
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  Hunt what version Of Jalen carter are we going to?
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  Get but to, me the most important guy and the
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  most interesting guy on the list Is Jalen. Hurts what
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  level Of Jalen hurts is this team going to? Get
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  that should be the. Answer, right we just talked About Jared.
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  Goff we just talked About Jared goff being the number
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  one overall pick and what he has done for that.
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  Franchise Jalen hurts has done something with The eagles franchise
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  that nobody thought was. Possible that nobody thought was. Possible
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  he won them a Super. Bowl when they Drafted Jalen,
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  Hurts there's nobody period out there that, said oh my,
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  god they just drafted the New Super BOWL. Mvp, no.
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  Buddy all people did was bemoan the fact that they
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  took a quarterback in the second. Round why'd you do?
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  That we already have our. Quarterback why would you do?
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  That they already have the, guy they just signed him
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  to this big. Deal why would you take a quarterback
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  in the second. Round so the QUESTION i got asked
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  this morning was what AM i most excited about for
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  This eagles training camp to? Begin And Jeff, Moscher my answer,
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  IS i want to see what the encore is For Jalen.
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  HURTS i feel like he's the guy that is always.
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  Disrespected he's always the guy that is kind of under the.
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  Radar BUT i want to see what's the next step
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  For Jalen hurts as Super BOWL, mvp Super bowl, champion
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  guy that got to the Super, bowl guy who's never
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  missed the. PLAYOFFS i want to see what version Of
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  Jalen hurts we. Get that would be my Answer Jeff
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  moscher about who or WHAT i Am i'm most excited
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  about as we get ready for training camp next. Week
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  why is it That Jalen hurts is always the? Afterthought pick?
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  RIGHT i Think mosher's. Frozen he looks like he's. Frozen
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  he looks like he's just. Kinder so we'll try to
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  get him out of there and put him back in the.
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  Spot but that's my. Answer It's Jalen, hurts right is
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  H IF i was to say to you guys number,
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  one right off the, bat what are you most excited
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  about training camp starts in less than two, WEEKS i
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  think it has to Be Jaialen. HURTS i think With Jalen,
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  hurts get the guy's a Super BOWL.
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  Speaker 2: MVP i like.
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  Speaker 1: THIS i really like this BECAUSE.
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  Speaker 3: I, mean he he is someone THAT i, mean nobody
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  really expected him to be this.
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  Speaker 1: Good all, Right well let's Bring moscher into the. Conversation,
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  now let's see what it. Is says all, right moch
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  that was the QUESTION i got asked this, morning what
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  AM i most excited about For eagles training? Camp and
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  my answer, WAS i want to see what the encore
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  is For Jalen. Hurts is it fair to assume that
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  there is another step in his, aggression that there is
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  another level of success and production from?
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  Speaker 3: Him so that's a good. Question is it fear to
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  assume that there? IS i, think, yes there's going to
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  be a, production there's going to be a. Progression but
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  at the same, time he's been a starting quarterback for
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  about five or six years, now and you, KNOW i
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  don't think you're going to see AND i could be,
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  wrong BUT i don't know if you're going to see
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  something that's such an like a big step up as
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  far as he's a different kind of. QUARTERBACK i feel
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  like that we've gotten to a point where you know
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  what his strengths. Are he has a lot of. Them
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  he has a couple of, limitations just a. Couple so
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  if you were to really BE ticki tak and pick
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  apart like, that the fact that he doesn't throw very,
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  often if, ever in a game in the middle of the.
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  FIELD i don't know that that part of him will ever.
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  Change if it, DOES i think then you're looking at
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  a player who can easily be consider that they're the
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  best player in THE. NFL i just think there are
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  just a few things that he doesn't do that probably
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  separate him from that list of people who are just deleted.
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  Speaker 2: Everything but So i'm like, You, MIKE i think.
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  Speaker 3: It's fair to assume there'll be parts of his game
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  that get, better because they do every.
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  Speaker 2: Year But i'm just not.
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  Speaker 3: Sure how higher the floor is going to, be the
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  ceiling is going to.
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  Speaker 1: Be, well what would IF i was to ask, you,
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  Then Jeff, mosher what's the next step in the elevation
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  that you want to see from? HIM i, mean because
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  no one's ever a finished, Product, like what is the
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  next thing that you want to see him be a
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  part of or or you, know something different From jalen this?
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  Speaker 3: Year, YEAH i mean listen, there you hold them to their,
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  word and they've talked about opening up the offense and
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  being a different iteration of, themselves, right and obviously it's
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  not the running offense that they're talking about when they say,
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  That ALTHOUGH i do think that there are ways to
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  incorporate different runs in that that's a whole other separate.
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  Conversation but what they're talking about is opening up the pass.
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  Offense we KNOW Aj brown has been frustrated at, times
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  and so as the coaching, staff and so it Is.
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  Jalen so the next step is JUST i, think becoming
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  a more rhythm and timing passer who uses the entire
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  field at his. Discretion he didn't have to in THE
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  Nfc championship game in The Super, bowl but not every
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  year you're gonna have as good of a defense and
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  as good of a fifty three and as great of,
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  weapons you. Know SO i think the next step for
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  him would be to become more of a timing and
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  rhythm passer over the. Middle BUT i can't tell you
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  that if he doesn't take that step that The eagles
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  are going to be in bad hands.
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  Speaker 1: Either you, know we talk about lists all the. Time
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  this is the list, season blah blah, blah and he's
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  generally not included in the top, five top, seven maybe top.
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  Ten why is? That in your? Mind what more does
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  he need to do to kind of win those people
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  over or is that just not gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Happen, YEAH i think in some regards it may not,
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  happen and OTHER i THINK i think. SO i think
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  only a few people HAVE i ever seen not put
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  him in the top.
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  Speaker 2: Ten when you talk about, DISRESPECTFUL i think that that's.
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  Speaker 3: FAIR i really don't Think Jialen hurts is disrespected as
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  much as Maybe philadelphians think he, is BECAUSE i would
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  say there are some really good quarterbacks in this league
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  who probably accomplished more with, less and they're just as,
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  good if not AS i have no problem with putting
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  jail in anywhere in that second tier beyond like the
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  top two or, three and.
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  Speaker 2: He could be four or.
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  Speaker 3: Five, SHIT i don't care that to, Me BUT i
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  don't think that's. Disrespectful you, know everybody talks, about, well
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  he Beat Patrick, mahomes he's a Super bowl. Champion but
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  like these a lot of these people to, say people
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  who Said Joe flacco wasn't elite when he was going
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  to the playoffs every single year and finally won a
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  Super bowl and played and won A Super BOWL. Mvp
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  winning a Super bowl And SUPER vp is great and
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  it validates your career when you're really, good but it
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  doesn't make you the best at anything one position just.
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  Speaker 1: BECAUSE i would agree with. That you, know he's just
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  an interesting one BECAUSE i think we look At jalen and,
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  again this coundation today is based on our unsportsman like
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  moment of the day had to do With Jared goff
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  as the number one overall. Pick has he fulfilled his
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  duty as a number one overall? Pick you, know he
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  got to a Super. Bowl he's made The lions a respectable.
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  Franchise LIKE i Think Jared goff has done his duty
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  as a number one overall. Pick but when you Are Jalen,
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  HURTS i don't know what more he could do to
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  win people over who still question whether or Not and you're, like,
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  well he's won a Super. Bowl he's been THE mvp
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  of the Super. Bowl that's different from The Brad, johnson's
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  The Trent, dilfers that level of quarterback who were the
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  game managers who got to the Super bowl and someone.
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  Else he was THE mvp of the Super bowl and
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  a big part of why they got. There and yet
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  doesn't get the like he's not in The Lamar, jackson
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  The Josh, allen the you, Know Joe. Barrow he is
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  there anything he could do to get put into that?
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  Category you're not not, really you, KNOW.
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  Speaker 2: I THINK i think he.
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  Speaker 3: COULD i mean if he wins a bunch Of Super bowls,
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  MORE i, MEAN i certainly think he he. CAN i
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  GUESS i would ask, This, mike, Like Troy aikman won
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  Three Super?
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  Speaker 2: Bowls? Right is that? Correct Troy aikman won Three super.
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  Speaker 1: Bowl, yes he was quarterbacking for the three, teams.
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  Speaker 3: Right AND i think he was A Super BOWL mvp
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  for at least one of, them If i'm not, mistaken
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  and he's.
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  Speaker 2: In The hall Of.
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  Speaker 3: Fame BUT i don't Think Troy aikman is considered like
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  the top three Quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Jalen hurts the modern Day Troy aikman is what you're.
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  Speaker 2: Saying and, then and WHAT i would ask is that?
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  Speaker 3: Disrespectful it does anybody look At Troy aikman say it's really?
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  Speaker 1: Disrespectful, okay let me do you what do you? Do
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  how would you Compare Jalen hurts And Lamar?
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  Speaker 3: Jackson, WELL i, mean nobody really compares To Lamar jackson
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  and what they can do, athletically, RIGHT i mean that's
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  and his, arm his ability to throw on the run like,
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  fastballs like nobody has. That Maybe Josh allen. Does but,
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  yeah very very. Different they played the game. Differently BUT
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  i do Think Lamar jackson is a little bit more
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  of a bad distributed or different sets of, Weapons and
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  clearly he likes his tight. Ends he throws to likely
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  throws To. Andrews he's not as reluctant over the. Middle
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  but he also has the most maybe the best arm
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  in THE. Nfl so you're less reluctant to make throw
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  or less afraid to make throws like that when you
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  know you have that kind of arm and riverboat gambler,
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  mentality so you don't find that and a lot of human,
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  beings let alone. Quarterbacks so he's. Amazing SO i don't,
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  know are you asking me to who's better or like
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  where WOULD i put him on a list or?
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  Speaker 2: Something?
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  Speaker 1: YEAH i, think, well, yeah BECAUSE i think a lot
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  of people will Get Jay lamar as a guy who
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  has not won the big, game can't win the big
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  game because of the deficiencies in the past. Game potentially
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  now he's an interesting one because he really hasn't had the.
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  Weapons jalen has the. Weapons so if you flip flop
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  them As jackson win The Super bowl And hirks is
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  in that. SITUATION i think if those two guys flip,
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  flopped they would be.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting, yeah you, Know lamar played a pretty darn.
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  Speaker 2: Good game in THAT afc.
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  Speaker 3: GAME i know that there were the two turnovers and that,
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  happens but he played a pretty good game. There Mark
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  andrews drops the ball that otherwise could have made a
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  difference in that, game, right if that's the Game i'm thinking.
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  Speaker 2: About, yeah SO i think the book On lamar is not.
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  Speaker 3: Closed he can win A Super bowl next, year or
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  the year, after or five or six years, later and
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  then you're gonna look back on his career and, say
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  this guy won all these playoff, games he won a Super.
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  Bowl he is The Aaron rodgers of his time and
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  may only be. Won but he made, ridiculous you, know athletic.
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  Plays so he's a great. Quarterback that's WHY i hate
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  the whole. Ranking LIKE i put a couple of guys
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  in the, elite Like, MAHOMES i think is definitely the
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  elite quarterback of the of the, generation the. ERA i
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  do Think Joe burrow is fantastic quarterback with very few.
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  Flaws but then even after those two And lamar is
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  probably AND i would put those three. Guys it's like
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  in my upper, echelon put him in a. Blender all
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  three of them are. Amazing holmes is the most, accomplished
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  and then anybody alfter.
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  Speaker 2: Them you want to Put Jello hurts after, that that's.
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  FINE i got to argue with, it BUT i also
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  don't argue if you.
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  Speaker 3: Put Matthew stafford in, it Or Josh allen in it
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  or somebody.
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  Speaker 1: Else, Yeah Josh allen's another interesting one because he hasn't won,
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  anything but he's been THE mvp And. Hurts it's just,
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  like you know. What that was the interesting, part like
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  the conversation was what AM i? INTERESTED i want to
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  see the if this is the year That hurts finally
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  gets that recognition of he's in that level with those
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  group of, guys because it always seems like he's the other,
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  guy yet he's had more success than all of. Them
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  what level of success do you have to reach to
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  get to that next level.
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  Speaker 2: OF i don't.
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  Speaker 3: KNOW i guess i'll throw not only WILL i use
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  The Troy aikman, reference but how About Terry. Bradshaw he
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  has Four Super. Bowls he played really well in a
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  couple Of Super bowls where they had to throw the
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  ball a lot to swing it To stalworth right And
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  lynce WANT i, Believe and he won a couple Of
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  Super bowl. VP's but nobody says That Terry bradshaw was
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  a top three quarterback of his era because he also
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  threw a truckload of.
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  Speaker 2: Interceptions he didn't throw the ball a whole. Lot he
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  wasn't the most accurate guy in the.
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  Speaker 3: World but, like they're both in The hall Of fame
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  and they're both recognized as some of the best to
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  ever play the.
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  Speaker 2: Game so is that not good?
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  Speaker 3: Enough like do you have to be considered number one
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  when there are clearly a guy or two who are
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  just better Than Like Joe montana was better Than Troy.
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  Speaker 2: Aikman is there Anything Troy aikman could have? DONE i don't,
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  know kind of, well you know. It and by the, Way.
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  Speaker 3: Dan marino is probably better Than Troy, aikman But danrie
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  the only one On Super.
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  Speaker 2: Bowl is there anything tig we could have? DONE i don't.
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  Speaker 1: Know, yeah all, Right Jeff, moscher of. Course from The
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