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  Speaker 2: This is the best of the Ben Maler Show on
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  Speaker 1: Lead story from Pro Bouncy Ball. We go to the
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  Speaker 1: Sooner State. Boomer Sooner, Boomer Sooner. The all pivotal Game five,
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  Speaker 1: the winner of an NBA playoff series that is tied
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  Speaker 1: to two after Game five is you know it goes
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  Speaker 1: on to win. Blave blah blah blah. So it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was Game five of the Western Finals. The New
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  Speaker 1: York knickerbock are partying out in the Hamptons as they
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  Speaker 1: wait for the finals, which will not start till next week.
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  Speaker 1: On Wednesday of next week, this is our Wednesday show.
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  Speaker 1: It's still late Tuesday in the West, but it's our
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday show. In the NBA Finals will begin next Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: so there'll be a bit of a downtime which would
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  Speaker 1: lead me to believe that we will get a game
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  Speaker 1: seven in this series, but we're not there yet. Instead,
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  Speaker 1: we have to get through Game five and that took
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  Speaker 1: place on the aforementioned Tuesday night. So SGA and the
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  Speaker 1: Thunder we're looking to bounce back, if you will, against
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  Speaker 1: Wenby and the Spurs. And I don't know if you
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  Speaker 1: were watching this game or not on ab ce By,
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  Speaker 1: Mike Triko really laying it on thick Tariko, really trying
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  Speaker 1: to sell you that this is just such a great
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  Speaker 1: matchup and it's so compelling and you must watch and
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  Speaker 1: all that. So that's his job to do that as
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  Speaker 1: the Thunder looking to get back on track after the
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  Speaker 1: Spurs took the previous game. So SGA, better known as
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  Speaker 1: Shay jogis Alexander former Clipper thirty two points. Alex Caruso,
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  Speaker 1: the former Laker the Bald Mamba, had twenty two in
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma City. They're so close they can they can smell
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  Speaker 1: it and they can taste it. They're one win away
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  Speaker 1: from a return to the NBA Finals. TI to go
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  Speaker 1: back to back and belly to belly as they take
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  Speaker 1: care of San Antonio in a game that wasn't all
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  Speaker 1: that close one twenty seven to one fourteen. The Thunder
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  Speaker 1: now up three games to two. We are told that
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  Speaker 1: you have to win a fourth game to advance, So
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  Speaker 1: that means they have not accomplished anything except finding their
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  Speaker 1: offensive mojo. OKC was held to eighty two points in
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  Speaker 1: game four, and then just a couple days later they
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  Speaker 1: went out and had eighty two points with time left.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was about four minutes to go on
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  Speaker 1: the clock and they were sitting pretty So the better story, though,
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  Speaker 1: is in the loop using locker room where everyone was
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  Speaker 1: yapping about the play of Victor web Banyama, and not
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  Speaker 1: in a good way, as he sucked at a time
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  Speaker 1: you cannot suck, which is in the Western Conference Finals
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  Speaker 1: game five, and so that is a good jumping off point.
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  Speaker 1: Let us discuss the question can you put your finger
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  Speaker 1: on what went wrong for Wemby and his spurs and
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  Speaker 1: this loss to the Thunder. So I've got Scarecrow, meet
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  Speaker 1: the press, and marine biology, and we will combine all
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  Speaker 1: of these things together and we are going to make
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  Speaker 1: chimmy chongos is what we're going to make. So a
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  Speaker 1: if you really want to know, and I know you're
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  Speaker 1: telling you want it, out what went wrong for Victor
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  Speaker 1: Webbanyama in game number five. So he decided, for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 1: to be a pacifist. He was a pacifist in this game.
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  Speaker 1: And uh yeah, he was just decided, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to attack. I'm not going to attack. No, no, no no.
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  Speaker 1: He was driving the mister Softy truck with the music
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  Speaker 1: blaring and no no, no, no no no no no
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  Speaker 1: no no no no no no no. Uh that's what
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  Speaker 1: he was doing. And he looked totally distracted, totally distracted
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  Speaker 1: like he was. He was in the back and it
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  Speaker 1: was he had a side job and he was working
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  Speaker 1: at Paris Baguette and he was folding creampuffs instead of
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  Speaker 1: folding the defense for okay see, and he actually turned
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  Speaker 1: out to be the creampuff. He was the creampuff, uh
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  Speaker 1: if you will. And so that's that's how that went.
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  Speaker 1: Uh for much of the game here. It was pretty crazy,
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  Speaker 1: how bad and just uninterested he was. The word is
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  Speaker 1: I guess lethargic would be the word that we'll use.
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  Speaker 1: Lethargic is a good word. It's a solid word. Passive.
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  Speaker 1: We've used that word, all right. Uh, never got going.
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  Speaker 1: The parade started and passed him by. He never got
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  Speaker 1: he never got going, and kind of you look at
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  Speaker 1: it and you're like, WHOA, wait a minute. He wasn't
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  Speaker 1: in the flow at all. He was floating on the
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  Speaker 1: lazy river having a cocktail. Wemby, he's even not only
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  Speaker 1: he's old him to drink or barely. I guess in
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  Speaker 1: France the rules are different. But tod he was having
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  Speaker 1: a lemonade doing this thing. And if he slowed down anymore, Wemby,
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  Speaker 1: if he slowed down anymore here, the arena would have
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  Speaker 1: gone into sleep mode. Literally. Now he finished with a
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  Speaker 1: performance so flat? How flat was it? Somebody needed to
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  Speaker 1: call a tow truck, get some jumper cables, and they
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  Speaker 1: tried at halftime. It didn't work. It did not work.
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  Speaker 1: And we talked about this in a previous episode of
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  Speaker 1: the show. Dwayne Wade tossing out there. He's unstoppable, he
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  Speaker 1: can't nobody can stop him. Webby, he stopped himself, He
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  Speaker 1: stopped himself. And man, he played tiny. That was small, small, small, small, small.
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  Speaker 1: He played tiny basketball there and that was like a
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  Speaker 1: decoy seven foot four, seven foot four and a scarecrow
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  Speaker 1: out in a cornfield. Although he did have the sneakers on,
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  Speaker 1: so he had that going for him. Yeah, he did
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  Speaker 1: have the sneakers on. He took just six shots in
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  Speaker 1: the first half. You almost took as many shots as
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  Speaker 1: he did. Six shots in the first half there and
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  Speaker 1: finished four of fifteen. I didn't play in the NBA,
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  Speaker 1: and I just do the overnight show. I'm told that
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  Speaker 1: is not very good when you take fifteen shots and
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  Speaker 1: you're the franchise player and you only make four of them.
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  Speaker 1: And he missed all five of his three balls, and
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  Speaker 1: the saving grace was the fact that he got to
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  Speaker 1: the foul line a lot, and that seems to be
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  Speaker 1: a common theme in these bouncy ball games. So twelve
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  Speaker 1: of twelve from the charity stripe, and so that helped
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  Speaker 1: him end up with twenty plots, the lowest point total
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  Speaker 1: for him Wemby in this particular series. Meanwhile, the thunder
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  Speaker 1: they actually used, I didn't know they had this. They
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  Speaker 1: had a two for one discount code, and how great
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  Speaker 1: is that when you get that two for one discount
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  Speaker 1: code and they completely owned the middle of the aisle,
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  Speaker 1: the painted area. As Chet and Hartenstein, the two centers,
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  Speaker 1: two big men for Oklahoma City, combined for twenty eight
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  Speaker 1: points and twenty six rebounds. They were essentially renting out
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  Speaker 1: the painted area like it was an Airbnb, and Wemby
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  Speaker 1: was content just standing out and he was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: look at that. I mean, I'm gonna pick my finger
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, bite my fingernails. I'm gonna look off
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  Speaker 1: to the heavens and see what's out there. But wait,
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  Speaker 1: there's more page two here. So Spurs guard Stefan Castle
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  Speaker 1: was asked about the officials and what appeared to be
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  Speaker 1: a bit of a lopsided game statistically. Coming into this game,
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  Speaker 1: the Spurs had shot many more foul shots than the
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  Speaker 1: Thunder in this theories on this particular night, the way
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  Speaker 1: the game was officiated, the Thunder ended up only with
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  Speaker 1: six more foul shots. It felt more lopsided than that,
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  Speaker 1: and the foul shooting was pretty even actually for the
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  Speaker 1: first time. It just gave the illusion that it was lopsided.
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  Speaker 1: And when asked about that, I think we have the
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  Speaker 1: audio on this. I believe, yes, Okay, I've got way good.
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  Speaker 1: We haven't told we do all right, but wonderful, how
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  Speaker 1: great is that we have actually all audio? Here is
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  Speaker 1: the fun. Castle His response when asked about the officiating
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  Speaker 1: and a bit of a bias tike. It was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: trying to play through it. You know, it's tough.
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  Speaker 3: I just think with the way they guard, how physical
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  Speaker 3: they are, we don't get that same luxury to be
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  Speaker 3: able to play as physical on the other end at times.
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  Speaker 3: But offensively, I think we do a good job of
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  Speaker 3: screening and playing through it. So I think we created
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  Speaker 3: a lot of advantages. But I think we just missed
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  Speaker 3: a lot of open shots something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right now. What he did there was a compliment
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  Speaker 1: sandwich you ever had that? I've gotten that. Every weasel
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  Speaker 1: boss knows the compliment sandwich you ever get called? A
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  Speaker 1: new meeting. We don't really have meetings around here much anymore,
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  Speaker 1: but every once in a while we do. In the
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  Speaker 1: old days, we used to have meetings all the time,
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  Speaker 1: the early days of Fox Sports Radio, and management was
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  Speaker 1: on our ass all the time. We had meetings. All
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  Speaker 1: that was a pain in the ass. And you get
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  Speaker 1: called in the meeting and they always start out with
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  Speaker 1: a compliment, well you sound great, man, are you good?
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  Speaker 1: And you know what's coming right When they say that,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm doing a meeting with programmer there, they say, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I sound great, okay, oh yeah, and I didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to mention you're the biggest a hole I've ever met
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  Speaker 1: and you suck. By the way, keep up the good works.
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  Speaker 1: That's how those meetings go, right, And that's essentially what
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  Speaker 1: Stefan Castle did. He's like, you know, he started out
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  Speaker 1: kind of nice and they said, oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: the money part of the quote was we don't get
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  Speaker 1: the same luxury the thunder do to be able to
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  Speaker 1: play physical as they do at all at times. So
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  Speaker 1: he's like, and then he put a little thing at
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  Speaker 1: the end there. So that's that's how that went. That
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  Speaker 1: is how that went. So the question what did the
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  Speaker 1: Spurs guard Stefan Castle accomplished by calling out the NBA
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  Speaker 1: officials on the way they are giving out justice court
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  Speaker 1: justice in this particular series. So Stefan Castle didn't just
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  Speaker 1: call out the referees after this latest game, game number five.
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  Speaker 1: This was not your standard postgame wine. It was not
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  Speaker 1: that Castle walked into the news conference room there in
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  Speaker 1: the bowels of the arena in Oklahoma. He wore essentially
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  Speaker 1: a suit, not an actual suit. In my head, he
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  Speaker 1: wore a suit there and he was carrying a briefcase
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  Speaker 1: not a purse like Lebron James. Remember back in the
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  Speaker 1: day Lebron brought his purse to the post game. Very
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  Speaker 1: bold of him to do that. So cassile like a
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  Speaker 1: briefcase and he basically registered to be a full time
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  Speaker 1: NBA lobbyist and he just criticize the officials. He did
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  Speaker 1: the sandwich thing. The criticism was in the middle there.
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  Speaker 1: He accused them of favoritism, that there's favoritism with me.
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  Speaker 1: Did with a smile. It was a nice smile, is
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  Speaker 1: what he is. And he dropped that loaded phrase which
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  Speaker 1: we love doing talk radio, basically saying Oklahoma City gets
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  Speaker 1: the physicality privilege. So he said, this is a beautiful
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  Speaker 1: fine Preemptive strike is what it is. It's a preemptive
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  Speaker 1: strike and players know exactly what they're doing. We talked
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  Speaker 1: about this and pretty much every game of the playoffs,
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  Speaker 1: there's one of these hand grenades that has tossed out,
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  Speaker 1: these verbal hand grenades, and this is the one here.
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  Speaker 1: And think of it like politics. This is the NBA's
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  Speaker 1: version of Steffan Castle going on meet the press. You
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  Speaker 1: don't just complain, you have a message. You have a message.
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  Speaker 1: And Castle's message to Adam Silver was call the game
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  Speaker 1: like adults, and there's a bad job by you, and
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  Speaker 1: help us out. We need a little help here. And
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  Speaker 1: he's playing the long game, although it's not really much
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  Speaker 1: of a long game. It's already we're heading into game six.
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  Speaker 1: Now he's planting those Steffon Castle the psychological seed like
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  Speaker 1: a good farmer, the seed of doubt, to get some
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  Speaker 1: different whistles in game six. And I think that will
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  Speaker 1: go the way, cause the NBA is gonna have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of downtime if they wrap things up on Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: the finals don't start till next Wednesday. They really need
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  Speaker 1: a game seven. And so something tells me they'll bring
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  Speaker 1: in Scott Foster, whatever they have to do to make
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  Speaker 1: sure we get a game seven. If the NBA continues
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  Speaker 1: to do what they've done for the last forty years,
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  Speaker 1: we are going to get a game seven. There'll be
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  Speaker 1: some very interesting officiating in game number six. I meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: Adam Silver, he doesn't have the George Michael sports machine
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  Speaker 1: from back in the old days. He has the fine
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  Speaker 1: machine there in New York and he's warming it up
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  Speaker 1: like a nineteen to ninety eight Dell desktop. And so
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  Speaker 1: we'll see if this playoff maneuvering does pay off, and
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  Speaker 1: there'll be a fine, So he'll get fined. I Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: in the lead up to Game five between Oklahoma City
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  Speaker 1: and San Antonio, there's a lot of conversation about Shaye
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  Speaker 1: Jogis Alexander and how foul shot dependent he is that
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  Speaker 1: without that, he's not that great. So NBC's Reggie Miller
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  Speaker 1: was asked about this, he sounded off on it. In
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  Speaker 1: the lead up to the game, there the flopping criticism
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  Speaker 1: that SGA has gotten, and Miller attempted to put up
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  Speaker 1: a firewall. It's part of the jockocracy, of course, athlete
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  Speaker 1: defending athlete, and so he put a firewall up around SGA,
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  Speaker 1: saying it's SGA's job to play the game of basketball.
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  Speaker 1: Miller said, he's not playing the game and officiating the game.
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  Speaker 1: Be more upset at the officials, Reggie Miller said, and
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  Speaker 1: how they have called it. He's not blowing the whistle
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  Speaker 1: for himself, Miller said, quote continues. People need to stop this.
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  Speaker 1: I'm serious, Reggie Miller. Mister Indiana pacer said, for as
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  Speaker 1: much hate as a two time MVP gets, this guy
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  Speaker 1: has a polished game. Close quote from Reggie Miller. So
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  Speaker 1: SGA went out after that endorsement by mister Miller Miller time,
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  Speaker 1: and Shaye Jogis Alexander went out there and had half
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  Speaker 1: of his points. He scored thirty two, half of them
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  Speaker 1: from the foul line of seventeen from the charity stripe.
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  Speaker 1: In this game, literally half the points in the game
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  Speaker 1: for SGA came from the foul line. So the question
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  Speaker 1: where are you at on Reggie Miller blaming the NBA
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  Speaker 1: referees and giving Shade Jogis Alexander a pass a free
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  Speaker 1: pass year for the flopping that has taken place. So
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  Speaker 1: of course Reggie Miller went down this road. Why because
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  Speaker 1: if you're old enough to have watched Reggie Miller play
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  Speaker 1: for the old Indiana Pacers back in the day, Reggie
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  Speaker 1: Miller when he was playing here, he was known for
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  Speaker 1: some sloppy, floppy basketball. He was holy Rick Smith's batman.
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  Speaker 1: He practically trademarked it with the Indiana Pacers back in
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  Speaker 1: the old days there, and he was like those matchups
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  Speaker 1: with the Knicks. He was like auditioning to do a
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  Speaker 1: Broadway show in the nineties. So this becomes a whole
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  Speaker 1: mackerel situation. Because SGA often flopping and gyrating around like
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  Speaker 1: a fish out of water, and Reggie Miller acting like
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  Speaker 1: it's some kind of marine biology. No, no, not Reggie,
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  Speaker 1: it's not. Listen. It's been going on for a long time. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: it's been going on for thirty forty years in the NBA,
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  Speaker 1: and who knows likely before that, Bob Coosey and Wilt Chamberlain,
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  Speaker 1: we're probably flopping around and we didn't know it because
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  Speaker 1: the games weren't on TV and we weren't a lot. However, Shay,
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  Speaker 1: he's mastered this where he hits the floor on Neglok
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  Speaker 1: just little contact, little light contact and he hits the floor,
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  Speaker 1: and we've seen more physicality. SGA falls down all the time,
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  Speaker 1: so it's like he's like he's always like surrounded by pillows.
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  Speaker 1: They said after the first couple of games about thirty
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  Speaker 1: percent of the time he fell down when he didn't
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  Speaker 1: need to fall down. And so it's minimal contact and
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  Speaker 1: maximum collapsibility and it's working. And SGA is not reacting
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  Speaker 1: to contact per se, He's reacting to the idea of contact.
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  Speaker 1: And the fallout is that, yeah, the referees are the
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  Speaker 1: ones calling it, and so why would they help out
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma City though? Right, that's a small market. It's not
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  Speaker 1: one of the glamour teams. They're not a particularly attractive
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  Speaker 1: team to watch, the Thunder. They're not compelling. They win
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  Speaker 1: a lot. Nothing really sexy about the Oklahoma City Thunder.
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  Speaker 1: And yet this guy's getting it. And when you have
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  Speaker 1: the cachet, when you have that cachet of being an
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  Speaker 1: MVP and winning all these awards multiple time MVP, it's
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  Speaker 1: a self feeding situation where they just now you always
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  Speaker 1: get the calls because you get the accolades on your
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  Speaker 1: Wikipedia page, and so you get that. But the fallout, though,
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  Speaker 1: is not just in the micro, it's in the macro
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  Speaker 1: as well. And it's an invasive species that continues to spread,
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  Speaker 1: and it's been around for a long time. This is
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  Speaker 1: going to create a whole new crop of this activity.
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  Speaker 1: One superstar rising to the very top of the pyramid
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  Speaker 1: and by flailing away, right, they flail away, and then
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, suddenly every blue chip AAU player
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  Speaker 1: is practicing their gyrations and their mannerisms and not their
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  Speaker 1: jump shots and not their crossover dribble or anything like that.
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  Speaker 1: And so we'll have another wave kids are like eight, ten, eleven,
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  Speaker 1: twelve right now, and those kids, in a few years,
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  Speaker 1: believe it or not, I'll be back in the NBA
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  Speaker 1: and they'll be like, hey, I patterned my game after
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  Speaker 1: Floppy mcflop SGA, just like him. So this is not
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  Speaker 1: basketball's pratt Fall theater. Here is what it is.
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  Speaker 4: dumbest takes ever in all of sports talk. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: if I'm saying that, they must really be bad. I
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: have no idea why Fox Sports Radio picked this up,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: but I know where to put it down in the
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: trash can. So please don't listen to the Paulie and
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: Tony Fusco Show.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: No Way, No how and our lead this hour is
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: from green Bay, Wisconsin. The frozen tundra right there, not
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: far from Lake Winnebago and the Green Bay Packers. What
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: did they do? Did they do some amazing transaction to
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: get in the headlines? And no, no, your cheese heads
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: are filling up the content machine on a sleepy day
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: in May. You're in late May. And if you have
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: not heard, it's a humdinger of a story. It's a
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: legal thriller. Yep. So if you didn't see or hear
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: about this, we have the police blotterer. And several people
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: were messaging me, did you do the NFL book them?
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I'm like, now, we were going to bring it back,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: and we didn't bring it back, you know, we the Wokesters.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: We had to cancel it because of the Wokesters, and
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: we could do it. And I was thinking about, like
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: ways we could do the NFL book them, and I thought,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: what would be even more fun would to have have
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: like a raffle and have there's thirty two teams if
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: we put a number near all each team and then
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: we could have a raffle to do it. Now, that
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: would be fun. That would be when the off season
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: has only got a little time left and training camp begins.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: It's almost June. Training camp begins in July. Although this
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: is prime, prime handcuff season in the NFL, Like this
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: is where these boys get arrested, all right, these guys can't.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I got a lot of free time. These guys are
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of free time. And you bring in a
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: lot of money and women, and those are the ingredients
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: that lead to bad decisions. And sometimes not even bad decisions.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just around people that do things that you know,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: it's just a weird situation anyway, getting the point, all right,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: So we'll get to the point. Running back Josh Jacobs,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: who I believe is the team captain for the Green
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Bay Packers, was arrested and he was booked on multiple
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: charges of domestic violence in Wisconsin. Now. Jacobs is twenty eight,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: played for the Raiders for several years, and he was
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: booked and charged with battery, domestic abuse, criminal damage to property,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: which means he destroyed some stuff of the lady. I
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: assume domestic abuse, disorderly conduct, but wait, there's more domestic abuse.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Strangulation and suffocation that's a big one, and intimidation of
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: a victim so according to jail records, the strangulation and
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: suffocation charges. You might imagine that is, well, that's going
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: to get you in some real big trouble, and that
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: is a felony. The other four charges are misdemeanors. Jacob
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: is being held without bond. We were told on late
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: late on Tuesday, without bond. The police originally were dispatched
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: to his home. How abou the fact he's spending the
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: offseason in Wisconsin. I assume he spent all the time.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: It was possible maybe the packers had some workouts or
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: something like that. This happened in Wisconsin and on Saturday,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: over the weekend, and he was not arrested immediately. Normally
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: you're arrested right away, as I understand it, you don't
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: normally wait a couple of days to investigate. In this case,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: they did and then three days later the thing happened
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: on Saturday, and then they waited till Tuesday to put
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: handcuffs on and give a mug shot to Josh Jacobs.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: All right, so that is a good jumping off point,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: not for the Green Bay Packers, but for the talk show.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: So let's get into it. Let us discuss the question
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: all right, here's the question. Just how much trouble is
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Packers running back Josh Jacobs facing over this domestic violence
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: arrest in Wisconsin. So my observations on this, I've got saltwater, crocodile,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: doggie bag, and fax machine, and we will combine all
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: of these things together and we are going to do
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: the hokey pokey and put one foot in. We're gonna
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: take it out. We do the hokey poke all right,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: So number one one one one, one one one one. Now,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: first of all, listen, if you can't be beating people up,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: so obviously, if he did it, you know he should
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: pay a price for that. You can't be putting hands
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: on people. That goes without saying. However, you can hop,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: skip and jump around. Misdemeanors happens all the time. He
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: get all worked into a lather and sports talk radio
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: about people getting arrested, and then it's misdemeanor. It's nothing
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: in the big picture. If you're rich and you get
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: a misdemeanor, it's nothing. I am felonies, they don't do
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: a recess. There's no recess on a felony, all right.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: So in the grand scheme of the legal system in
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: this country. Misdemeanors are like a mosquito bite. I don't
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: really worry about a mosquito bite, although the deadliest thing
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: in the world is the mosquito, and yet they don't
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: make any movies about deadly mosquitos. Right, there's none of that.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: There's no intimidation or anything like that. It's mosquito kills
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: more people than anything. But the context it is like
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: a mosquito bite. Now, a felony Unlike a mosquito bite,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: which is a mist demeanor, a felony is like a
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: saltwater crocodile, an apex predator, flesh eating monster of the sea,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: if you will, the sea of misery. And that's what
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: this could be. And it's not just a legal hiccup.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: It's a legal Himalayan expedition, is what this is. And
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: so domestic violence cases are not simple. I'm very almost
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: never simple. We've talked about a lot. I went into
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: sports radio and I've talked a lot of legal cases
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: over the years. Domestic violence, though, they're always messy. Think
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: of it like a pot luck and there's no labels
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: and you're trying to guess what the f the food
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: is and it's always a he said, she said. There's
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: almost never video of what happens, right, even in this
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: age of video, So it's a he said, she said situation.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: It's rarely black and white. It's almost always fifty shades
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: of gray with these and it's like, who do you believe?
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: And in the end, the key often comes down to
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: physical evidence. And that's the part that doesn't lie. It
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: doesn't blank physical evidence, it doesn't forget, it doesn't do drama.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: And while it might go away, meaning if there's bruises
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: and things like that, the photographs they last a long time.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Now page two, so the packers running back. Josh Jacobs,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: if you missed the beginning here, has been arrested on
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: a domestic violence charge bunch of charges against Josh Jacobs. Now,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: through his attorneys, he released a prepared statement, a prepared statement,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: and here is the statement from David Chesnoff. The attorney said, quote,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Josh vehemently denies the alleations, and this matter is in
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: the early stages of investigation, with important evidence that has
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: not yet been made public. We ask for fairness and
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: restraint while the judicial process takes its course. Close quote
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: that is, the attorney being paid by the Green Bay
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Packers running back Josh Jacobs. That is David Chesnoff. So
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: the question, how do you pick apart this prepared statement
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: from Josh Jacob's defense attorney and vehemently denying the allegations
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: in that prepared statement. So the statement, here's the way
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I'll break it down. So it's exactly what you get
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: when you are a forty seven million dollar professional athlete
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: and you can afford to hire a top level defense attorney,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: and you hire a lawyer whose retainer has Commas in it,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: you just do and you don't bring in a guy
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: this guy. I looked him up. I really didn't know
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: much about this attorney, David Chesnof. He looks right out
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: of Central Casting. If you think of like a I
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: think he's in his seventies. He's an old like. He's
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: a mob attorney, guy from Vegas. He fits all the
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: cliches of attorneys, defense attorneys. The guy, over the years
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: is the go to guy. Mike Tyson hired him as
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: a defense attorney. Hard E b Shaquille O'Neill are among
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: the celebrity clients that have hired him. If you're a
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: celebrity and you get in legal trouble, who are you
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: gonna call? Many of these people call David Chesnoff, and
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: he is a chriacture of a Vegas defense attorney. He is,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: and he's got the hair, the look, the whole thing.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: And this isn't about really justice. Most of this stuff
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: is not about justice. I've learned that as I've gotten older.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: When you have a lot of money and influence, it's
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: about the wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle. It's about wiggle room,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: is what it's about. And when you look at it,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: money doesn't just talk here. It negotiates like a doggie
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: bag filled with cash. It gives you a lot of wiggle,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: a lot of wiggle when you have that money. And
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: so that statement, which was prepared by the defense team
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: for Josh Jacobs, that to me was a message. It
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: was a secret dog whistle for the District Attorney's office,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: the judge, anyone else who likes to campaign and get
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: donations for certain offices in Wisconsin. Because the system bends
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: for people that have resources. It's like justice is blind.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: It also loves direct deposit. So it really loves direct
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: depositis when the quote was vehemently denies from Josh Jacob's attorney.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: And when you say that, it's not just attorney speak,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: if you will, it's more than that. It's a quote,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: it's a code. We're buying some time here while we
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: negotiate a safe landing, the landing zone, and spare me
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: the whole early stages and all that stuff. I don't
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: want to hear about that. That line that they toss
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: out claiming that there's important evidence not yet made public.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you what my experience when an attorney
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: is my understanding this. When an attorney says that line
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: that important evidence not yet made public. When I hear
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: that line, that almost always means what it almost always means.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: We are hoping that something is out there that will
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: surface that will help us, because we got nothing right
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: now right and we really want something that helps us
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: so we can get a sweetheart plea deal, because that
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: would be great. The felony strangulation charge is the whole enchilada,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: and that's what all this is about for the Green
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Bay Packers running back. Everything else is window dressing and
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: it's nothing in comparison as a first defense. As far
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: as we know, Josh Jacobs does not have any kind
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: of criminal record that we could decipher other than some
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: speeding tickets. So that is a Class H felony. What
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: does that mean? That means that Josh Jacobs faces up
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: to that's a weasel term, up to six years in
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: the Gray Bar Hotel better known as prison, all meals
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: paid for, free gym access and television, and you get
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: a roommate and also and or a ten thousand fine.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: So the goal of the defense rather obvious here, is
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: to get the downgraded felony from a felony to a
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: misdemeanor and then the migraine headache will go away a
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: little bit and you're still facing some NFL punishment. However,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: that's going to be rather small compared to actually going
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: to jail. And again, if you did the crime, you
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: do the time, and we'll see how this plays out. Now,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: final point, I gotta mention this because we've talked about
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: these stories so many times over the years and it
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: just does not end, and there's no end in sight.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: So the team has entered the chat. The team from
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Northern Wisconsin, in a prepared statement of their own provided
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: to state sponsored NFL media now run by ESPN, The
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers said, we are aware of the matter
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: involving Josh Jacobs and YEP. As it is an ongoing
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: legal situation, we will withhold further comment. Ding ding ding
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: ding ding ding ding ding ding. Question, what did you
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: make of the packers rather generic statement regarding Josh Jacobs
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: and his arrest? So the Packers statement here, let me
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: break this down. I'll slice it and dice it. So
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: the packer's statement on Josh Jacobs has all of the
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: emotional warmth of the manual for the refrigerator in your kitchen.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: It's a yawn situation, a yawn. It reads like the
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, that football team from the frozen tundra,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: the Packers bravely stepping forward to say absolutely nothing at all,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: absolutely nothing at all, the crisis management Swiss army knife
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: of damage control. And all professional sports teams, not just NFL,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: all professional sports teams remain undefeated in the category of
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: say nothing while pretending it's something. And this is another
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: example of that. The statement has It wasn't written by
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: some modern executive, this prepared statement. It was ghost written
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: by a fax machine from nineteen eighty seven. Okay, it's
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: just a reminder that the NFL. The most consistent, the
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: most consistent performer in the National Football League is the
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: copy and paste key. Every professional sports team has this
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: quote with blanks in it, and they save it. It's like, well,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: we are aware of the matter involving blank. As it
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: is an ongoing legal situation, we or insert team name
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: will withhold further comment. It's always been like that, right
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: as long as I've been around, This has been the
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: thing and is copy and paste it and keep humming along.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: La la la la la la la la la la
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: la la la la la la la la la la. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: And so it's the four step crisis, lullaby. It's what
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: it is. It's the classic four leaf clover. Now, why
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: do they all do this? Because you A acknowledge the
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: story exists, so you're acknowledging it. B you avoid admitting
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: any kind of wrongdoing or liability. C you buy time,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: and D you prevent quotes from becoming evidence later because
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: you really said nothing. It's not like the defense team
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: or the prosecutions can say, well, we'd like to enter
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: in as evidence. You're honor this quote from the Green
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Bay Packers. No one's gonna do that. There's nothing there.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: It's no meat on the bone. And it's also traditional
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: courtroom advice going back to the early days of the
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: court system, back in the Roman times, where you say
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: as little as possible while acknowledging that you are aware
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: of said issue, or in layman's terms, let the legal
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: process play out before doing anything. It is the Ben
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Maler show. What do you think is gonna happen here?
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I've seen everything that I could find about the Josh
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Jacobs story, and it's really hanging on that that felon
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: depends on what kind of physical evidence they have at
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: this point and what kind of check or, as we said,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: a doggy bag. Josh Jacobs can cut for some people
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: that are trying to win elections in Wisconsin and have
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: some influence over the judicial system in the state of Wisconsin.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: You gotta know who. I just love the fact that
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: he knew right away to contact this lord. Did did
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Packers have this guy's number? Did Josh Jacobs have it?
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: This is also the guy the attorney that defended Henry Ruggs,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: the guy that killed the young lady and she burned
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: up in her car with her dog. And this is
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: the attorney defendedive and Henry Rugg's about to get out
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: of jail. I guess apparently.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Hit that big voice, guy hits that. But that's the button,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, that degree, this is one gets Grail
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: and the Coop Dal loop.
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: What Jason Kelsey said on his podcast that the NFL
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: has always been synonymous with Sundays and that Sunday always
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: being an event helped the NFL get as big as
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: it is, and now he's worried that the league is
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: getting away from that with all of these different games
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: across different days of the week.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: But do you think it's a bad thing. It's not
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: a bad thing. It's times changed. The NFL wants global domination.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: That's what they want. And it was like picking in
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: the brain, what are we gonna do tonight. We're gonna
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: take over, gonna dominate the world. That's the NFL's mantra.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: And so it's really just squeezed every dollar out of youd.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I know why the NFL's doing it. They want they
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: want more money. TV's like, all right, you've fully monetized
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Sunday and Sunday night. So let's do Monday, give me
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: a Wednesday, give me a Friday. And so that's why
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: they is greedy. There is a breaking I don't believe
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: we're near the breaking point yet. I will say these
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: international games are going to piss a lot of people off.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: When every team's playing international games, that'll be a bigger
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: problem than playing games at different days of the week.
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: Next, Jalen Brown made the All NBA Second Team for
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: the second time in his career, but he felt like
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: he was snubbed for first team honors. During a live stream,
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: Brown's ingested it has something to do with quote how
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: I use my platform, and that he's not the most
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: liked player in the media.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Then you think those things have anything to do with it.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: In his head, yeah, he's convinced that he's he loves
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: playing the victim a lot. They love playing the victim.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, the world's out to get me and
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: this is going to be the driving force for Jalen
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Brown and all that stuff. I don't believe it's that deep.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: He just he was good. There were other players that
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: were ahead of him in his position, and so that's
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: why Jalen Brown didn't make the first team All NBA
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: and all everyan. Now he can play with a bigger
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: chip on his shoulders, so it's good for the Celtics next.
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: Several teams reportedly expressed interest in Kawhi Leonard at the deadline,
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: and now it's being reported that he's drawing to interest again.
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: Kawhi is being linked to the Heat, the Warriors, and
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: even the Detroit Pistons. Yeah, Ben, do you think Kawhi
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: leaves La?
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm fine if they trade Kawhi. He played, actually
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: played pretty well this year, and he played a lot
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: and all that. I just don't trust the guy, and
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I'm over it, all the excitement, all the optimism with
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard. He has been such adope with the Clippers
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: where he doesn't care about basketball and he cares more
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: about us. No show job that he does playing for
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: the Clippers. I'm fine if they get rid of him.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I trade him the Pistons because they have younger players
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: who the Clippers can get. And the one thing about
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Balmber though, he's always gonna he's always gonna have a
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  Speaker 1: competitive team. He's not gonna tank. So I'm happy about
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: that they'll get some decent talent in return for Kawhi
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  Speaker 1: Leonard wherever he ends up. And if somebody's dumb enough
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: to trade for Kawhi, knock yourself out. You got to
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  Speaker 1: pay that bill for that no show gardening job. All
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: right there? It is mallarly third degree?
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  Speaker 1: He passes that as they went on.
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  Speaker 1: Dear r.
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  Speaker 7: You heard the man. It's time for the Queen of Hearts.
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  Speaker 7: Hi Ben?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Is that me?
• 39:33
  Speaker 7: Is that Hi Ben?
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  Speaker 1: So? This is the part? Yeah, yeah, all right.
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  Speaker 7: I would give advice this week, but I think it's
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: pretty obvious. Keep your hands to yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. Late Night drug tester Wright Sin says,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: is having my name tattooed on another guy's arm attractive
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  Speaker 1: to ladies or could it give them the wrong idea?
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  Speaker 7: Well, it could just seem like an odd coincidence, you know,
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  Speaker 7: akik Yeah, but you know sometimes leprechauns they get names
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  Speaker 7: tattooed on them.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard that. Yeah, let's see here. Here's a question
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  Speaker 1: for you, Lorena. Is it okay to let's see here?
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  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: There's a word misspelled? Split? I guess is that a check?
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  Speaker 1: Or are women expecting every guy to be a sugar daddy?
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  Speaker 7: It's from Can you rephrase that from the beginning?
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  Speaker 1: All right? So, yeah, is it okay to split the check?
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: I guess is what he's asking here? Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: It is, Oh yeah, one hundred percent. You don't always
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  Speaker 7: have to pay for the bill, But don't make it
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  Speaker 7: seem like you're a sugar daddy. Unless you have a
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  Speaker 7: lot of money. You aren't a sugar daddy. Okay. However,
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  Speaker 7: if you have enough money, it probably isn't gonna bug
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  Speaker 7: you if you don't split a meal where she's probably
• 40:45
  Speaker 7: only paying about thirty five dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Anyways, Well, isn't the rule generally it's a sliding scale
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  Speaker 1: of how attractive you are. The more attractive you are,
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  Speaker 1: the less you have to pay m That's debatable. I disagree.
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  Speaker 1: I believe that's been proven Keelai and Pie. Bobby from
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Florida writes in says, should I be offended if women
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: only use me for my Disney Annual pass?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 7: No, I think Disney dating is so fun. And once
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: again using you for your Disney Annual pass. Are you
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: getting them in with your pass? Or are you just
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: getting them discounts with your pass? Or are you able
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: to go on dates because you have a pass? All
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: very different things, you know.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Mark the Walker from Rochester writes in He's out walking
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  Speaker 1: around He says, if money were not an issue.
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: What would you do if money were not an issue?
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: What would you do if you said endless amounts of money?
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: No? No?
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  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: Well yes, I would probably go on a very long vacation.
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: Would you go on a cruise ship for like a
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: year and just go around? Not a cruise, No, because cruise.
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: I don't like being stuck on a boat like that. Okay,
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: the ocean all around me actually makes it very nervous
• 41:59
  Speaker 7: for more than three days. But no, I would definitely
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: want to travel and see all different areas.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, you just go travel? Yeah, gotcha? All right, Let's
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: say hello to quins l in Oakland and he is
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: next up on the segment we call the Queen of
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Hearts with Lorena, Hello, Quinzel, Oh what's going on? And
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: I was everybody doing man, you know, living large, yeah,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: so big being. I want to tell you that was
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: when you were shutting up. Hold on, hold on, say
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: let me wake you up here, hold on, let's wake up, Quinzell,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: let's wake up. Maybe I'm gonna give you some smell.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you some smelling salce right now. Well
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: kill midel well kill? Okay, why all right, go ahead, go,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: I'm behind faith. Thanks, And we heard that my name
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: not when you were talking about well, that was not
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: That was not a shout out. That was a mention.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I don't do shout outs. That was a mention. Yeah, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I forgot it.
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  Speaker 7: I think that's forty hands to say.
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  Speaker 1: But I was gonna you have one sentence to get
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  Speaker 1: the question out. One sentence. Okay, that's on. We said,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: all right, I'm moving on. I can't I can't handle it,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: hollering James is gonna ask you, well, hello, holloweing James.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Hayla Rena.
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  Speaker 1: I'm struggling with the ladies and I.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Don't know what to do.
• 43:26
  Speaker 7: You're struggling with ladies, as in multiple ladies.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Well, he is Rico suave. The women can't keep away
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: from him. It's so popular. They love a fat man.
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: What does not true?
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: That's not true, Benny, And I'm no sugar daddy because
• 43:40
  Speaker 7: I'm on the finched inn.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Come okay, we'll move on from that.
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: And maybe you should get a Disney pass like Bobby
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: and Florida, and then women can use you.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: All right, Blind blind Scott's got a good question. Hello
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: blind Scott on the North end of Boston. Blind Scott,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: it's a segment we call Queen of Hearts. See, I'm
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: actually in the shower right now.
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: What should I do with myself?
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: All right? Make sure you make sure all the soap
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: and water.
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and make sure you between your toes. A lot
• 44:09
  Speaker 7: of people miss the feet, and you need to clean
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: your feet so that people can, you know.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: J T. And the wingman says, what is a bigger
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: chick magnet? A motorcycle or a boat? That's a good one.
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: Oh, probably a boat. Really, I think motorcycle motorcycles.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I always know women that get really in the motor.
• 44:28
  Speaker 7: And also, I can't ride your motorcycle because it's gonna
• 44:31
  Speaker 7: give me a helmet hair.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: The boat thing, it's it seems like a good idea,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: but it's a pain in the ass. I like the boat,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: I know, but it's a pain in the ass. It's
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: a pain in the ass to have a boat. But
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: they're nice. It depends what kind of boat.
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: You're a bikini.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, now you win? All right.
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• 44:54
  Speaker 5: Attention everyone, and the password is password. You a it
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: password the word Game of the Stars. Here's Ben Meller
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  Speaker 5: right now.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Let's say hello to Mark on the north end. Who's
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  Speaker 1: going to play? Hello Mark, welcome by Bet.
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  Speaker 7: I'm sorry mission when you were there.
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  Speaker 1: If I knew you were coming in that night, I
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  Speaker 1: would have made it a point to be there. That's
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: all right. I walked by your spot there and I
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: didn't I was there twice, Actually I didn't see. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was there. All right, you're gonna play who do
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: you want to partner up with?
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  Speaker 5: There?
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  Speaker 7: Mark?
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: You want to play with me, Ben, Lorena or coop
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  Speaker 1: with you? All right? We're in it to win it.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Very good. Hold on a second, and Chris is in Boston. Hello, Chris,
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  Speaker 1: who would you like to partner up here that you're
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: gonna play password the word Game of the Stars. Let's
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: go with Okay, you're very serious, dedicated to the craft
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: of password the word Game of the Stars. We have
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: us words, not a big board, a list. All right,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: So Mark, you were on first, and you get to
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: pick a number one, two, ten. Let's kick it off
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  Speaker 1: with number one. All right, number one?
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: How about we go with masculine man? No, all right,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: we go down to nine points, kobloo. Let's do uh yes, tough.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Strong?
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: No, all right, Mark, I said masculine. Let's go with hmmm,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: I think I got it, really alright, Let's go with
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: rugged strong. No, strong, it's still not strong.
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Let's let's try cocky, conquerent. No, all of them are together,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: all of them. Yeah, everything's related here. What if I
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: try something out of out of school? How about wrestler's muscular?
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I thought, I thought, I thought there. It didn't work,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Stuet throw it out. Yeah, the word was macho. The
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: word was macho. Come on, I didn't take the damn word.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: All right, go ahead, there, Chris, pick a number two
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: to ten. Two to ten's password the word game of
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: the stars in owner of Marcella's pick number two. All right.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: The funny thing is he will not even get that joke.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: That's the beauty of that. It's so good.
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: Let's go with.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Gun arm. No, what do you say? He said? Oh, okay,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: how about firearm?
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: No?
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, this is not going well. This is munitions. Yeah,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: you got like how many points seven? It's like seven? Seven, ok? Eight, eight?
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Go ahead there, our friend Mark from the north end,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: pick it up a tree number us. We're gonna go one, two, three,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: all right, let's go with let's see here, any meany
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: miny moe. How about observe watch. Yeah, we got the
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: laid and we're not gonna concede. Ten to eight, all right,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Chris pick another one seven? Oh, out of order number
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: seven bashful, Yeah, it's easy. We got the lead. All right,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: shut up, Mark, Mark, hurry up, Mark picking up my mark?
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  Speaker 5: Easy?
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: What do you say, Mark? Number four? Yeah, all right,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I'll try the Mallard maneuver, shooting picking up the way,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Chris picking up the way. Chris said, that's amazing. That
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: is a walkup win off my no, no, no, shooting
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: star mark on the north end,