Latest / Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge / 90 Day RHOC Fiancé (RHOC)
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Hi guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas in
- 0:16Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Dolores Catania. Hi everyone. Hi.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Was this your favorite episode of OC or not?
- 0:26Speaker 1: It was. Well, last week was my favorite and then
- 0:29Speaker 1: this week beat it. How was last week your favorite? No,
- 0:34Speaker 1: I thought that last, the last episode was really good.
- 0:37Speaker 1: I liked the banter between the girls when they were
- 0:40Speaker 1: like shit talking. Oh yeah.
- 0:42Speaker 2: You know, when they were.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Shit talking right in front of his face. Yeah. With
- 0:46Speaker 1: the song. Um, like I thought that was funny. Cause
- 0:50Speaker 1: I've done that with my friends too, talking about somebody
- 0:53Speaker 1: right in front of their face. Yeah. So he's going
- 0:57Speaker 1: to be upset when he sees it.
- 0:58Speaker 2: He's for sure. Well, he's already seen it.
- 1:00Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.
- 1:02Speaker 2: I mean, who knows what's going on with him, but
- 1:04Speaker 2: did you laugh at our girl Tamara?
- 1:07Speaker 1: No, I died. I was dying. Cause you know, I'm like,
- 1:12Speaker 1: like strict Italian Catholic girl. Like I, you don't, I
- 1:16Speaker 1: still don't talk about that stuff in front of anyone. Right.
- 1:20Speaker 1: I talk about other people doing it really badly too.
- 1:24Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we'll get into it. But it starts off
- 1:27Speaker 2: where Emily, Tamara, and Gina grab lunch while Heather, Carmela,
- 1:31Speaker 2: and Jen shop for sunglasses. Are they running out.
- 1:34Speaker 1: Of things to do to shop for sunglasses?
- 1:36Speaker 2: I was thinking Heather had to drive all the way
- 1:38Speaker 2: to OC. I mean, take a car all the way
- 1:40Speaker 2: to OC to shop for sunglasses.
- 1:42Speaker 1: And it wasn't even, it was like Ray-Bans and it
- 1:45Speaker 1: wasn't even. But the dog was cute.
- 1:49Speaker 2: The dog was cute. But you know, in her mind,
- 1:52Speaker 2: she's like, I just drove.
- 1:54Speaker 1: She had to take a shower when she got home.
- 1:56Speaker 2: Yeah, she couldn't. They didn't even go to the sunglass hut.
- 1:59Speaker 2: I know where they went.
- 2:01Speaker 1: It was like a kiosk somewhere. And she was like,
- 2:05Speaker 1: they're probably like bootleg Ray-Bans. And you know her. She's like, what?
- 2:12Speaker 2: Well, because then I was trying to differentiate if the
- 2:14Speaker 2: ones that she tried on were the ones she wore
- 2:16Speaker 2: at the. picnic this week and I don't think they were.
- 2:19Speaker 1: You fucker you never let that shit go you'll check
- 2:22Speaker 1: for the purse yeah I mean the purse I'm chill
- 2:25Speaker 1: my age you'll check for the bag you'll check for
- 2:28Speaker 1: that shit yeah you are you really dissect this don't you.
- 2:32Speaker 2: Well I don't think and I don't think she wore
- 2:34Speaker 2: them later on just saying I think.
- 2:35Speaker 1: She threw them in the garbage on her way.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Out but I liked them they were like kind of
- 2:41Speaker 2: the they're kind of like yours like where they're the
- 2:43Speaker 2: clear all over Heather's not wearing them Are those look optic?
- 2:49Speaker 1: They're look optic. You love look optic.
- 2:51Speaker 2: I love look optic.
- 2:52Speaker 1: They're the only, like, they're cool. They're, like, cool.
- 2:54Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. But anyways, at this lunch, we learn that
- 2:59Speaker 2: Tamara's sex drive is low. But we knew this. And
- 3:03Speaker 2: she may need testosterone. Yeah, but I think this is
- 3:06Speaker 2: the most real she's been on the show about it.
- 3:11Speaker 1: Really? She hasn't talked about this before?
- 3:14Speaker 2: No, on the show, she hasn't. Like on the pod,
- 3:18Speaker 2: she hasn't talked about like.
- 3:21Speaker 1: On the pod, she hasn't?
- 3:21Speaker 2: No, like when she cried in this episode, I got
- 3:24Speaker 2: choked up.
- 3:25Speaker 1: Like you didn't know? No. You didn't know all this
- 3:27Speaker 1: was going on? She never told you about the fight
- 3:30Speaker 1: with Eddie on the way home from Big Bear?
- 3:31Speaker 2: She told me a little bit about it, but not,
- 3:34Speaker 2: she didn't use the D word.
- 3:36Speaker 1: That's rough. And he, by the way, he is a
- 3:39Speaker 1: good guy. And I think that they compliment each other
- 3:42Speaker 1: in a relationship. No relationship is good all the time.
- 3:46Speaker 1: things get stale and especially at our age, we lose
- 3:50Speaker 1: that drive, right? Not your age, definitely me and Tamara's age,
- 3:55Speaker 1: but you know what? And I know this is not,
- 4:00Speaker 1: Eddie is not the culprit of this because he tells
- 4:01Speaker 1: her all the time, she's beautiful and he loves her
- 4:04Speaker 1: and he's very doting, but everyone that's listening needs to
- 4:10Speaker 1: tell your partner and for women, and I bet for like,
- 4:13Speaker 1: there's a component of this for men too, The biggest
- 4:16Speaker 1: sex organ on a woman is their brain. Okay. Tell
- 4:21Speaker 1: me I'm pretty. I don't care. actually what you look
- 4:25Speaker 1: like okay you could be out of shape you could
- 4:29Speaker 1: be like a mess if you taught if you're gentle
- 4:34Speaker 1: to me if you tell me I'm pretty if you
- 4:37Speaker 1: compliment me to you like guys don't get it thank
- 4:41Speaker 1: god men never figured that out with me because I
- 4:44Speaker 1: would be a total disaster yeah.
- 4:47Speaker 2: Well, we'll get to that when we get to it.
- 4:48Speaker 2: But that was definitely a little. But I think this
- 4:51Speaker 2: is where Emily kind of opens up and says, like, well,
- 4:55Speaker 2: I had the same thing, which is why I had
- 4:56Speaker 2: to get the pellets. But then this is where my
- 4:58Speaker 2: brain can't function is because then they show the pellets
- 5:02Speaker 2: and then they show it like a doctor, but they
- 5:04Speaker 2: show an injection. I'm like, that's not the pellets.
- 5:06Speaker 1: That's not the pellets. But then she says, like, it
- 5:10Speaker 1: makes her thing tingle.
- 5:11Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:12Speaker 1: My testosterone doesn't make my thing tingle at all.
- 5:15Speaker 2: Well, she's a little bit younger than you, not to
- 5:17Speaker 2: point out the obvious.
- 5:19Speaker 1: I forget that. Sorry. Well, thanks. No, I mean, listen,
- 5:29Speaker 1: it's all up here. Honestly, that helps a lot.
- 5:33Speaker 2: And I think also when you're filming the show and
- 5:36Speaker 2: you're all scattered around, it's very hard to like be
- 5:40Speaker 2: in the moment.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 5:43Speaker 2: And like turn your brain off.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Yeah, like we'll get to all that. But there's so
- 5:47Speaker 1: many things. And she's right about like, we'll get there. Yeah.
- 5:52Speaker 2: Well, then Gina finds out that Heather is using Carmela
- 5:56Speaker 2: to find her daughter a place, which is weird since
- 5:58Speaker 2: Heather told everybody how trashy Carmela was.
- 6:02Speaker 1: Well, it's more weird to me. It's not weird that
- 6:05Speaker 1: she told people that Carmela was trashy because we all
- 6:08Speaker 1: we know why she said it. Yeah. Carmela's got the
- 6:11Speaker 1: black hair like Pocahontas. She's got the big, big red lips.
- 6:14Speaker 1: I keep thinking she's Rachel Fuda from New Jersey. That's
- 6:18Speaker 1: why I always think she's from New Jersey, you know,
- 6:21Speaker 1: and I like Carmela. But I could see like Heather
- 6:27Speaker 1: could be like a little snobby sometimes. Sorry.
- 6:29Speaker 2: Well, I think this is this. I'm wondering who brought
- 6:32Speaker 2: it out of because they keep saying Emily keeps saying
- 6:36Speaker 2: she said it off camera. She said it off camera
- 6:39Speaker 2: in Vegas.
- 6:41Speaker 1: No, was it Emily?
- 6:43Speaker 2: No, Emily said that Heather was saying it off camera.
- 6:46Speaker 1: To who?
- 6:48Speaker 2: That's what I want to know.
- 6:49Speaker 1: I want to know who's the rat. Who's the rat?
- 6:52Speaker 2: Who is she saying it to? Because all of them,
- 6:54Speaker 2: they said, Gina said all of them. Gina said she
- 6:58Speaker 2: said it to all of them.
- 6:59Speaker 1: No, so honestly, Teddy, this is such a point of
- 7:02Speaker 1: contention with me when somebody repeats what I say when
- 7:05Speaker 1: they should have not. So can you find out who
- 7:08Speaker 1: did that?
- 7:09Speaker 2: Use your text.
- 7:10Speaker 1: Are you close enough with Heather to ask her?
- 7:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll find this out. But I mean, I need
- 7:15Speaker 2: to know who was it that actually took the information
- 7:19Speaker 2: to the group because.
- 7:19Speaker 1: That is a big next step. I need to know
- 7:20Speaker 1: because I'm not going to trust them now.
- 7:23Speaker 2: That's a big next step. And all of them knew.
- 7:25Speaker 2: So what I'm guessing is Carmela didn't go out with
- 7:27Speaker 2: the girls afterwards. The rest of the girls went out.
- 7:31Speaker 2: That's where Heather got a little tipsy and said that
- 7:34Speaker 2: Carmela is trashy.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 7:38Speaker 2: Or that she thinks Carmela is trashy. And then the
- 7:41Speaker 2: other girls are using that on the show, even though
- 7:45Speaker 2: she never said it on the show.
- 7:45Speaker 1: Exactly. And that's like a little rough, I think. But
- 7:50Speaker 1: the biggest thing for me is knowing that Gina works
- 7:55Speaker 1: very hard for her money. Yeah. And she works very
- 7:58Speaker 1: hard at being a realtor. Yeah. the fact that they've
- 8:02Speaker 1: been friends for so long and Gina makes this point
- 8:05Speaker 1: very clear. She's like, why would you go to another realtor?
- 8:08Speaker 1: Because even if she went to Gina and Gina referred
- 8:12Speaker 1: her to somebody, Gina still makes money. You know what
- 8:15Speaker 1: I'm saying? Gina could have even referred her to Carmela. Yeah.
- 8:19Speaker 2: And she got a referral fee. Well, I think, I mean, one,
- 8:24Speaker 2: I never watched the show and think, wow, Gina and
- 8:27Speaker 2: Heather are so close. Never once have I thought that.
- 8:31Speaker 1: No, but they've been on a show for a very
- 8:33Speaker 1: long time together.
- 8:34Speaker 2: Yeah, you would think they have that. Because as Gina says,
- 8:36Speaker 2: you know, she's like, this puts me in a bad situation.
- 8:40Speaker 2: This puts me in a bad light. Like, why wouldn't
- 8:42Speaker 2: Heather have chosen me?
- 8:45Speaker 1: But I don't think it was like on spite.
- 8:49Speaker 2: I don't think it was on spite. I think she
- 8:51Speaker 2: once Heather went to Carmela's house.
- 8:57Speaker 1: She got the vibe.
- 8:59Speaker 2: And I think she looked at her differently.
- 9:04Speaker 1: Oh.
- 9:04Speaker 2: But even though the way it played out was that
- 9:08Speaker 2: we saw her asking about the apartment before she went to.
- 9:12Speaker 1: The house, I think. So you think she went to
- 9:15Speaker 1: the house first?
- 9:17Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I could have been.
- 9:19Speaker 1: I mean, you couldn't. It doesn't mean that she saw
- 9:22Speaker 1: the house. She could have got a better vibe from
- 9:24Speaker 1: her getting to know her and being like, Because when
- 9:26Speaker 1: you meet somebody, you know whether or not they really
- 9:29Speaker 1: have the money they're talking about they have. Yeah. And
- 9:32Speaker 1: Heather would know.
- 9:33Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she was sussing up the situation.
- 9:37Speaker 1: But, I mean, we'll definitely... She thought she wanted to
- 9:38Speaker 1: be close to her.
- 9:40Speaker 2: I think she just was like, that's her area. I
- 9:42Speaker 2: think that's what she thought about.
- 9:43Speaker 1: That's what I was just going to say. Maybe she
- 9:45Speaker 1: just thought that's her area. Gina, I get... I think she's, like,
- 9:50Speaker 1: half wrong. Yeah.
- 9:52Speaker 2: Like, I get what Gina's saying, but I also... don't
- 9:56Speaker 2: know that if I was going to buy a house
- 9:57Speaker 2: in Colorado right now that I would ask my realtor
- 10:00Speaker 2: from here.
- 10:01Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
- 10:03Speaker 2: Like, I don't know. And I love like, I don't
- 10:06Speaker 2: think it's anything against Gina.
- 10:09Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 10:11Speaker 2: I don't think it's against Gina either, but I think
- 10:13Speaker 2: that I can see how Gina's taken it personally.
- 10:15Speaker 1: I could see both sides and I can also see
- 10:18Speaker 1: that this just isn't Heather's.
- 10:21Speaker 2: Season.
- 10:22Speaker 1: No.
- 10:34Speaker 2: And then they discuss how Vicky may have toned things
- 10:37Speaker 2: down since dating Mike with Tamara making a theory. that
- 10:42Speaker 2: maybe he proposed and then took the ring back.
- 10:45Speaker 1: I'm like, where did you.
- 10:46Speaker 2: Find this theory? Teddy.
- 10:54Speaker 1: Are you starting rumors?
- 10:57Speaker 2: I had not heard it, but this is what Tamara
- 11:00Speaker 2: said on the show. She said, it's a theory. Okay. Yeah,
- 11:06Speaker 2: I did not say that.
- 11:07Speaker 1: I'm not that messy today. Okay, you're just making sure
- 11:10Speaker 1: that Vicky knows you had nothing to do with it.
- 11:13Speaker 2: Just so Vicky knows I had nothing to do with it.
- 11:16Speaker 2: This was said on the television show.
- 11:20Speaker 1: I love friends that just make sure. Listen, guys, I
- 11:26Speaker 1: had nothing to do with what my best friend did.
- 11:27Speaker 1: I am not going down for her.
- 11:30Speaker 2: But I am willing to repeat it so that I
- 11:34Speaker 2: make sure that our listeners didn't miss it. Just wanted
- 11:39Speaker 2: to be clear. that is there is like you do
- 11:43Speaker 2: you not.
- 11:43Speaker 1: See the discussion who needs who needs enemies.
- 11:48Speaker 2: Oh my goodness um too much like as tamra was
- 11:52Speaker 2: doing that i was like tamra has punched her time
- 11:54Speaker 2: card this episode like she's like checking in for duty
- 11:59Speaker 2: bring she.
- 12:00Speaker 1: Was listen you didn't think what did we say last
- 12:04Speaker 1: week we were we were waiting for her to get
- 12:06Speaker 1: back to herself and She's creeping in now.
- 12:09Speaker 2: She's slowly creeping.
- 12:10Speaker 1: I hope she doesn't creep back out. The old camera's
- 12:11Speaker 1: creeping in.
- 12:13Speaker 2: But I loved it. So we get that little like four,
- 12:18Speaker 2: you know, what is it called? Like a four, we
- 12:20Speaker 2: get that little foreshadowing. And then we're back at the
- 12:25Speaker 2: sunglasses place.
- 12:27Speaker 1: Oh God. I just didn't even want to see it.
- 12:30Speaker 1: I didn't want to see it.
- 12:31Speaker 2: They discuss how annoyed Emily gets by Heather, who doesn't
- 12:34Speaker 2: believe that the women tiptoe around her.
- 12:37Speaker 1: Well, I mean, she's just like, I'm over caring because
- 12:42Speaker 1: everyone's shitting on me basically. So like, I just don't
- 12:46Speaker 1: care right now.
- 12:47Speaker 2: But then she's like, I do give a lot of shits.
- 12:49Speaker 2: I do care.
- 12:50Speaker 1: Well, she contradicted herself.
- 12:52Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 12:52Speaker 1: Do you think she gives a lot of shits? I'm
- 12:54Speaker 1: not so sure.
- 12:54Speaker 2: I think she does.
- 12:55Speaker 1: You do.
- 12:56Speaker 2: I think she's take like I do too, but like,
- 12:59Speaker 2: I think she really takes things personally.
- 13:02Speaker 1: More than you.
- 13:03Speaker 2: Yeah. More than me.
- 13:05Speaker 1: Oh, that's really bad.
- 13:06Speaker 2: Because like, I'm like a sloppy perfectionist. She's an actual perfectionist.
- 13:12Speaker 1: And I'm not one at all.
- 13:15Speaker 2: You're my type C friend. You're not type A or B.
- 13:18Speaker 1: I'm type D for Dolo. I am telling you, I
- 13:22Speaker 1: know you couldn't tell that I'm not a perfectionist, but
- 13:25Speaker 1: I'm just going to let you in on a little
- 13:27Speaker 1: fun fact about myself.
- 13:31Speaker 2: But Carmela said she wasn't bothered by Vicky leaving the
- 13:35Speaker 2: party early. But then Heather's kind of suggesting that she
- 13:38Speaker 2: should be bothered. She's like, well, then you can put
- 13:40Speaker 2: yourself in a box. Like, clearly you're being put in
- 13:43Speaker 2: a box because she doesn't want to take the time
- 13:45Speaker 2: to be with you.
- 13:47Speaker 1: Okay. And Heather, you wonder why people don't like you
- 13:50Speaker 1: this season. Because this has been a buildup of things
- 13:54Speaker 1: like giving your opinion about You can give your opinion.
- 13:57Speaker 1: You can have your opinion. But there's times when you
- 14:00Speaker 1: don't need to give it. And this was one of
- 14:02Speaker 1: the times if Carmela Albright said, I really didn't care.
- 14:05Speaker 1: She stayed long enough like she ate her hot dog
- 14:10Speaker 1: with mustard and she had to leave for another party
- 14:14Speaker 1: like it. Like I said, I wasn't offended by it.
- 14:17Speaker 2: But I think this is I think this is a
- 14:19Speaker 2: total different reason why Heather's upset than what we're seeing
- 14:22Speaker 2: on the show. OK, what's I think what we're seeing
- 14:24Speaker 2: on the show is Heather's upset because, you know, Vicky
- 14:28Speaker 2: doesn't want to spend time with them. I think Heather's
- 14:30Speaker 2: upset because they're all there to do a job.
- 14:34Speaker 1: OK, well, guess what?
- 14:35Speaker 2: Clocking out early.
- 14:37Speaker 1: Guess what? It's not your it's not your job to
- 14:41Speaker 1: be upset about its production's job.
- 14:43Speaker 2: I know, but this is also what we saw. Did
- 14:46Speaker 2: you watch Ultimate Girls Trip so far? No.
- 14:49Speaker 1: No.
- 14:50Speaker 2: Oh, so that's Vicky's getting a lot of it from
- 14:52Speaker 2: those girls as well, because like they'll be in the
- 14:55Speaker 2: sprinter van and she's on her iPad, like won't talk
- 14:58Speaker 2: to any of them. And you can see that they're
- 15:01Speaker 2: getting fresh and they break the fourth wall more on
- 15:03Speaker 2: that show. You can tell that they're getting frustrated that
- 15:06Speaker 2: they're all having to work and she's not working. Well,
- 15:10Speaker 2: she may be working on her insurance, but she's not.
- 15:13Speaker 1: Well, this was the powers that be. To bring her back,
- 15:16Speaker 1: and it's up to the powers that be to straighten
- 15:19Speaker 1: it out or not.
- 15:20Speaker 2: That's actually a good point. It's not the cast's job to...
- 15:25Speaker 2: To worry about her doing her job.
- 15:27Speaker 1: Yeah. And if you're depending on her to make the show,
- 15:32Speaker 1: then I guess they did do the right job by
- 15:34Speaker 1: bringing her back.
- 15:35Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's working.
- 15:37Speaker 1: It's working, so there you go.
- 15:39Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean... You made a good point. I
- 15:42Speaker 2: hate to say when I'm wrong, but I think I
- 15:44Speaker 2: might be wrong here.
- 15:45Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're wrong.
- 15:47Speaker 2: I could be wrong.
- 15:47Speaker 1: I'm not saying that.
- 15:49Speaker 2: I think you might be right on this one. For
- 15:52Speaker 2: anyone listening, just.
- 15:53Speaker 1: Tuning in, we're making fun of Carmela's boyfriend because he
- 15:56Speaker 1: doesn't open his mouth when he talks. In case you wondered.
- 16:00Speaker 2: In case anyone wondered. But... I still, we just have
- 16:06Speaker 2: to relive this moment one more time of Heather's one.
- 16:10Speaker 2: Heather and Jen are in like prom dresses and Carmela
- 16:16Speaker 2: walks in with like a t-shirt folded at the top,
- 16:20Speaker 2: like with the tie. And then Heather sees the name
- 16:23Speaker 2: Ray band.
- 16:24Speaker 1: She's like, Heather wanted to leave. She wanted to pull
- 16:33Speaker 1: a Vicky. She's like, I'm out now. This is above
- 16:36Speaker 1: my pay grade. I'm out of the store.
- 16:38Speaker 2: Well, even when they put the dog on the counter,
- 16:40Speaker 2: I was like, don't put the dog on the counter,
- 16:42Speaker 2: but the whole let pass the doctor if she wants
- 16:45Speaker 2: to hold it, but don't put the dog on the counter.
- 16:47Speaker 2: I'm have PTSD about dogs.
- 16:49Speaker 1: On the counter. You know, I did one fall.
- 16:51Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. One time I, my dog Khaleesi, that
- 16:55Speaker 2: was the best dog ever. Like my kids and I
- 16:57Speaker 2: were obsessed. Um, She we went out of town to
- 17:02Speaker 2: belt like we went out of town for Bella's birthday
- 17:04Speaker 2: and we had asked around a lot of like the
- 17:07Speaker 2: other people that were on the shows and stuff like
- 17:09Speaker 2: what's the best place to take her.
- 17:12Speaker 1: Don't even tell me because I'll die right now.
- 17:14Speaker 2: No, I'm Dolores.
- 17:16Speaker 1: I don't know if I could listen to the rest
- 17:17Speaker 1: of this story. Yeah.
- 17:19Speaker 2: She was a toy palm. She was this big. She
- 17:23Speaker 2: was the sweetest thing ever. I take her to the,
- 17:25Speaker 2: what are those places called?
- 17:27Speaker 1: Boarding. Boarding.
- 17:28Speaker 2: A boarding place. But I mean, this was a high
- 17:31Speaker 2: end one, like beyond. Like there's like, it's ridiculous.
- 17:35Speaker 1: Looks good, but they still hire the same people. They
- 17:38Speaker 1: don't get the people they hire. Go ahead.
- 17:40Speaker 2: So we don't even get to Bella's actual party. And
- 17:44Speaker 2: I get a phone call from the owner hysterically crying.
- 17:49Speaker 2: And she's like, I can't breathe.
- 17:53Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 17:54Speaker 2: Well, first she's changed the story. First she said she
- 17:56Speaker 2: dropped her. And then she said that she fell off
- 18:02Speaker 2: the counter. And then I said, I see that you
- 18:04Speaker 2: have cameras in there because I'm allowed to look and
- 18:06Speaker 2: see how all the other dogs are doing. So I
- 18:09Speaker 2: want to pull the footage and see what actually, cause
- 18:11Speaker 2: she was having like, we were already hours away and
- 18:14Speaker 2: she's in the hospital. Now the dog's in the hospital and,
- 18:17Speaker 2: having emergency surgery. Like it's, it's bad. Like the fact
- 18:20Speaker 2: that I'm not crying about it right now just shows
- 18:22Speaker 2: like how sick I am. But like that was, then
- 18:27Speaker 2: we tried to pull the security footage. She said the
- 18:29Speaker 2: security footage was down. She ended up just paying me
- 18:33Speaker 2: some money, like to buy another dog if I wanted to.
- 18:36Speaker 2: But it was, it was really, really sad. Like there's a.
- 18:40Speaker 1: Whole thing on Instagram about a boarding place that killed
- 18:42Speaker 1: a dog. Yeah.
- 18:44Speaker 2: And then like, imagine having to wake up. So I
- 18:47Speaker 2: found out that afternoon, that night that it happened, like,
- 18:51Speaker 2: and they were like, I was like, do we drive
- 18:52Speaker 2: home right now? And she's like, that's like, they're not,
- 18:56Speaker 2: she's not going to make it. And so then I
- 18:58Speaker 2: had to decide, am I going to tell the kids before,
- 19:01Speaker 2: after Belly's birthday party?
- 19:03Speaker 1: Oh, that's a long party.
- 19:05Speaker 2: It's a long party. And then we were staying at like,
- 19:08Speaker 2: a hotel and dah, dah.
- 19:09Speaker 1: Dah, dah.
- 19:10Speaker 2: So like I had to wait. So I just honestly
- 19:12Speaker 2: kept like crying to myself until the next day when
- 19:16Speaker 2: I told them. And then it was just heartbreaking. We
- 19:18Speaker 2: all came back. And then of course we did our
- 19:20Speaker 2: ashes and everything, but like, so whenever I see dogs
- 19:24Speaker 2: on the counter, I have severe like PTSD about it.
- 19:28Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. I can understand that. I had one of
- 19:31Speaker 1: those situations too, but we're not going to make this
- 19:33Speaker 1: a doom and gloom thing, but, um, Yeah. Being away
- 19:37Speaker 1: on vacation and things happen and you have to tell
- 19:40Speaker 1: your kids and you're just looking at them saying tomorrow
- 19:43Speaker 1: I'm going to break and eviscerate their fucking hearts. Yeah.
- 19:46Speaker 1: Like I'm going to rip their hearts out while yours
- 19:48Speaker 1: is already ripped out on the floor.
- 19:50Speaker 2: And you're trying your hardest to be strong and pretend
- 19:53Speaker 2: that you're fine. But yeah, I'll, I'll stop it there.
- 19:56Speaker 2: But it was, it was bad. That was back during
- 19:59Speaker 2: the times when I was still filming. It was, it
- 20:01Speaker 2: was bad. Then we get, speaking of bad, then we
- 20:06Speaker 2: get to the Vicky and Michael dinner.
- 20:09Speaker 1: Oh, what do we, I want your opinion. I want
- 20:12Speaker 1: your opinion.
- 20:13Speaker 2: Well, first, Michael wants Vicky to step away from work
- 20:15Speaker 2: so they can travel. When she brings up their life plan.
- 20:18Speaker 1: He gets upset. They don't travel enough to Mexico?
- 20:21Speaker 2: Apparently not. He said she's been saying it for three years, Dolores.
- 20:25Speaker 1: You know, the guys that want you to stop working
- 20:28Speaker 1: and to spend more time with them, write the check, bro.
- 20:31Speaker 2: I want to be like, dude, if you want me
- 20:33Speaker 2: to stop working, you're going to need more than that
- 20:35Speaker 2: casita in Palm Springs.
- 20:39Speaker 1: Exactly. Like you're staying in her place in Mexico, right?
- 20:42Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 20:43Speaker 1: Go to Mexico. Um, I feel bad for Vicky. You know,
- 20:49Speaker 1: I don't want to judge Mike right now. Because I
- 20:54Speaker 1: just don't because some guys get real nasty about the show.
- 20:58Speaker 2: And I think that's what's happening. You can see he
- 21:01Speaker 2: doesn't want to talk about the relationship on the show.
- 21:03Speaker 2: He doesn't want her talking about sex on the show.
- 21:05Speaker 2: He doesn't want her signing up to do more podcasts,
- 21:07Speaker 2: more shows, whatever. She's made it clear. However, you met
- 21:12Speaker 2: this woman knowing that was her life.
- 21:17Speaker 1: You know what? I am going to judge him. I am.
- 21:19Speaker 1: Fuck that. I am. He's not nice. I'm sorry. She's
- 21:22Speaker 1: settling just to have a warm body.
- 21:24Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
- 21:26Speaker 1: Like, it.
- 21:28Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Even if she wasn't on the show
- 21:29Speaker 2: when they got together, like maybe that was during one
- 21:33Speaker 2: of the times that she got the boot. I don't know.
- 21:36Speaker 2: I don't know the timeline.
- 21:37Speaker 1: He could have met her when she wasn't on the show,
- 21:40Speaker 1: when she wasn't back in this. Because they were together
- 21:42Speaker 1: at BravoCon before she was asked to hold the orange
- 21:46Speaker 1: that she walked around with for three days. Yeah. Like
- 21:49Speaker 1: it was an infant.
- 21:51Speaker 2: I know. She brought it to lunch.
- 21:53Speaker 1: She brought it to breakfast. She sat with it.
- 21:58Speaker 2: The orange was just sitting there at all times.
- 22:00Speaker 1: It was like, put it away. I wanted to steal it.
- 22:04Speaker 2: But then also, I want to say, like, I'm sorry.
- 22:08Speaker 2: If your husband doesn't want anything to do with your
- 22:11Speaker 2: work and your show, don't come to fucking BravoCon. Don't
- 22:16Speaker 2: go to BravoCon.
- 22:18Speaker 1: Well, maybe she didn't know what it was. She put... I, I, Dolores. No, I'm,
- 22:24Speaker 1: I'm saying maybe he didn't know, but this is what
- 22:26Speaker 1: I'm going to say. It doesn't fucking matter, Teddy. It
- 22:30Speaker 1: doesn't matter because there's excuse after excuse after excuse. And
- 22:35Speaker 1: I've been around this before. And I can tell you
- 22:40Speaker 1: that it's a few different things. It's, um, insecurities. It
- 22:47Speaker 1: is somebody in his life telling him it's shit, it's garbage,
- 22:50Speaker 1: it's low class. Because what the fuck does he really
- 22:53Speaker 1: know about it? Does he have family or friends?
- 22:57Speaker 2: I think he has kids that are like adult age.
- 23:01Speaker 1: Okay. So is somebody in his ear about all of this?
- 23:03Speaker 2: Probably watching the show and telling him what happened.
- 23:06Speaker 1: Yeah. Frustrated people that wish they could be on the show.
- 23:09Speaker 1: Is somebody telling him... that this is really bad. Cause
- 23:13Speaker 1: they should really tell him to be a lot nicer
- 23:16Speaker 1: to Vicky. Cause she's a damn good catch for him.
- 23:19Speaker 1: She's successful. She loves him. Like she loves him. You know, like,
- 23:26Speaker 1: what do you think you're getting? What do you think?
- 23:28Speaker 1: Who are you treating this woman like this for? I mean, I'm.
- 23:32Speaker 2: The prize and he like, doesn't even like give her
- 23:35Speaker 2: a hug or anything in that moment. And I was like,
- 23:38Speaker 2: Come on, dude.
- 23:39Speaker 1: I feel bad. No, listen, I feel bad. We saw
- 23:42Speaker 1: this with Angela Oakley. Her husband was very standoffish on camera,
- 23:47Speaker 1: but I think he's much more supportive than Mike. Yeah.
- 23:51Speaker 2: But I mean, I also get the feeling that Vicky
- 23:54Speaker 2: is probably the breadwinner and he doesn't want that discussed
- 23:57Speaker 2: on camera.
- 23:59Speaker 1: Well, then go drive an Uber, go, go, go do something.
- 24:05Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 24:07Speaker 1: But I feel like it's putting her down to make
- 24:09Speaker 1: herself feel better. Yeah.
- 24:11Speaker 2: I mean, because why else, if she loves working, if
- 24:14Speaker 2: she loves filming, if she loves doing the insurance stuff,
- 24:18Speaker 2: if she loves that she got an ultimate girl strip,
- 24:20Speaker 2: if she loves that she got her Christian gray snow podcast,
- 24:24Speaker 2: then be happy for her.
- 24:27Speaker 1: Here's what I want to know what Christian gray snow
- 24:29Speaker 1: feels about this because he lives, eats and breathes Vicky. Yeah.
- 24:33Speaker 1: So let's, I don't think he would like this. I
- 24:36Speaker 1: don't like, I don't think Christian would like it if
- 24:38Speaker 1: Vicky wasn't being treated nice.
- 24:40Speaker 2: Well, I don't, I didn't even like that when he,
- 24:43Speaker 2: when they were in the middle of a conversation, he goes, well,
- 24:44Speaker 2: I still have my mic on. And then he gets
- 24:47Speaker 2: up and she's like, where are you going? And he's like,
- 24:49Speaker 2: she's like, probably the bathroom. Like she made it funny.
- 24:51Speaker 2: She's like, he's always in the bathroom. But like, I
- 24:54Speaker 2: was like either also.
- 24:56Speaker 1: Who was like this with me? Who? Dave.
- 25:00Speaker 2: He, oh, I remember. And I didn't like it then either.
- 25:04Speaker 1: He was like with the show because he had people
- 25:06Speaker 1: in his ear telling him the show is this, the
- 25:09Speaker 1: show is blah, blah, blah, blah. When it's really, it's
- 25:14Speaker 1: just an excuse to not be nice. And I'm being honest,
- 25:17Speaker 1: grown ass man, he's retired. He's had his life. What
- 25:20Speaker 1: does he care about what she's doing? You know, there's
- 25:24Speaker 1: enough time for him after filming. So she's working. Oh God,
- 25:29Speaker 1: like kill her for it. She's built her whole life. She's,
- 25:33Speaker 1: you know, to build her business. We're going to knock
- 25:35Speaker 1: her for that.
- 25:36Speaker 2: And also, like, if you don't want to be talked
- 25:41Speaker 2: about on the show, I'm not saying this will stop
- 25:43Speaker 2: you from being talked about, but don't go on it
- 25:45Speaker 2: at all. Or be nice on it and be a dick.
- 25:49Speaker 1: Be nice. Make believe you're nice in front of people.
- 25:52Speaker 1: Don't try to make her look bad by being not
- 25:56Speaker 1: nice to her.
- 25:57Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's trying to be funny.
- 26:00Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think he was being funny.
- 26:01Speaker 1: I don't think he was trying to be funny. I
- 26:03Speaker 1: think he was trying to be like, um, cool about it. Maybe. Yeah.
- 26:10Speaker 2: I just kept thinking about 90 day fiance.
- 26:13Speaker 1: What about it?
- 26:14Speaker 2: Well, because they're saying that Vicky had to get to
- 26:16Speaker 2: the 90 days.
- 26:19Speaker 1: Oh, that's right. And then at 70, something would happen. Oh,
- 26:26Speaker 1: you woke up on the wrong side of the bed.
- 26:28Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
- 26:29Speaker 2: Oh, sorry.
- 26:30Speaker 1: You were on your computer after 801. We were supposed
- 26:33Speaker 1: to watch a movie. Listen to me. Take that ring
- 26:37Speaker 1: and stick it on your fucking cock because I was
- 26:39Speaker 1: getting so mad. Fuck you and your ring. Yeah. I
- 26:44Speaker 1: don't want it. Vicky, go find. There's a lot of
- 26:48Speaker 1: widowers your age that would kill to be with you.
- 26:51Speaker 1: Not the widowers. There's a lot of nice.
- 26:57Speaker 2: Topics over here.
- 26:58Speaker 1: Stop it, you fucking asshole. No, but there's a lot
- 27:04Speaker 1: of men that are very lonely. Divorced, whatever it is
- 27:08Speaker 1: that happened, maybe never married, maybe worked hard their whole
- 27:11Speaker 1: life that would understand what you're doing. There's a lot
- 27:15Speaker 1: of other people out there that would appreciate you. And
- 27:18Speaker 1: I'd like to see her have that. And I hope
- 27:20Speaker 1: she doesn't get mad at me for being mad at Mike.
- 27:22Speaker 2: Well, I she is. But she also I think I mean,
- 27:28Speaker 2: she's going to definitely get mad. She gets like and
- 27:31Speaker 2: then she'll get over it. But you can't get.
- 27:34Speaker 1: Mad because people want the best for you. Yeah.
- 27:38Speaker 2: Like we want people like you.
- 27:39Speaker 1: I've been a big fan of Vicky since this all started.
- 27:42Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, too. But then the women surprised
- 27:45Speaker 2: Shannon for her birthday. Vicky says she like anyway, I'm
- 27:49Speaker 2: sorry to interrupt because I'm on a tear. How does
- 27:53Speaker 2: Mike know if he's not interested in any of this?
- 27:55Speaker 1: What is said on here? Who's telling him?
- 27:57Speaker 2: Vicky's telling him. Vicky. Yes.
- 28:01Speaker 1: That's why he feels it's not his fault then, Vicky.
- 28:03Speaker 1: It's because of all the stuff you've told him. Yeah.
- 28:07Speaker 2: She comes home and tells him everything that happened. That's
- 28:10Speaker 2: why she said he doesn't want me talking about sex anymore.
- 28:13Speaker 2: Earlier this season, she talked about sex.
- 28:16Speaker 1: So how would he know unless she told him?
- 28:17Speaker 2: Because she told him. She's going home and regurgitating what
- 28:22Speaker 2: happened on the day, and then he's getting.
- 28:24Speaker 1: Mad about it. Well, I take everything back. It's not
- 28:26Speaker 1: his fault then. Do you think men tell you everything?
- 28:31Speaker 2: No. But also, like, I wouldn't even have wasted my time. Like,
- 28:38Speaker 2: you know there's how many things you can tell Polly
- 28:41Speaker 2: about the other women on camera.
- 28:43Speaker 1: Listen, everything doesn't make it. Explain it when it comes out. Yeah.
- 28:50Speaker 2: So I think that is also like a part of
- 28:54Speaker 2: part of the situation. She's telling him and then.
- 28:56Speaker 1: Telling him and then he's upset. Yeah. Well, is he
- 29:01Speaker 1: all wrong then? Don't be honest. I didn't know this.
- 29:04Speaker 1: This is new information to me. So tell me, Teddy,
- 29:06Speaker 1: is he all wrong?
- 29:07Speaker 2: Well, I personally think if you're signed up to do
- 29:10Speaker 2: a show. then you have to take, like, he's not
- 29:17Speaker 2: only with somebody that's on a reality television show, he
- 29:20Speaker 2: signed the paperwork. It's not like he's Michael Darby who
- 29:26Speaker 2: can no longer be discussed allegedly, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, no,
- 29:30Speaker 2: he is on the show.
- 29:33Speaker 1: So I guess he started off not hating it. He
- 29:36Speaker 1: grew to hate it because of the way Vicky probably
- 29:39Speaker 1: treated But then, you know, sometimes when, you know, girl talks,
- 29:43Speaker 1: girl talk. And then when you go tell your guy
- 29:45Speaker 1: and then he holds it against you, it's your fault.
- 29:47Speaker 2: Well, I mean, then they showed a flashback of Vicky
- 29:49Speaker 2: looking at the guy's dick at the Grand Canyon on purpose.
- 29:55Speaker 1: Why'd they do that?
- 29:56Speaker 2: Because they're trying to show that, like, Vicky is... I
- 29:59Speaker 2: think they're trying to show that there's holes in this relationship.
- 30:03Speaker 1: I don't think there is. I think that this is
- 30:07Speaker 1: the first year Vicky's back since she's with him. He
- 30:10Speaker 1: needs to get to know it and get over it
- 30:14Speaker 1: because he wasn't. I met him. I met him, too.
- 30:17Speaker 1: And he was very nice.
- 30:18Speaker 2: Yeah. I think what they also wanted to show is
- 30:22Speaker 2: that Vicky acts differently in front of him or for him.
- 30:27Speaker 1: Who doesn't? Like, you don't change yourself, but there's some
- 30:32Speaker 1: things when you're in a relationship that, you know, you
- 30:36Speaker 1: know your partner wouldn't agree with, so you kind of
- 30:38Speaker 1: don't want to... That being said, I.
- 30:41Speaker 2: Don't change my personality.
- 30:43Speaker 1: You don't change your personality? I don't think her personality's changed.
- 30:46Speaker 1: She's as kooky as ever.
- 30:47Speaker 2: She's always loved to talk about sex and those types
- 30:50Speaker 2: of things.
- 30:50Speaker 1: Oh, she did? Yes.
- 30:52Speaker 2: And so now she's all buttoned up, and I'm like.
- 30:56Speaker 1: Show me a girl that didn't do that when they're
- 30:58Speaker 1: with a guy that doesn't like that.
- 31:00Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it.
- 31:00Speaker 1: They all did. All right.
- 31:02Speaker 2: Well, anyways, then the women surprised Shannon for her birthday.
- 31:05Speaker 2: This was a cute scene, I thought. This was cute.
- 31:09Speaker 1: Very cute. The camaraderie was real and sincere.
- 31:13Speaker 2: And you could tell that Shannon was actually like emotional
- 31:16Speaker 2: about this. She's like, I'm always the one that does
- 31:19Speaker 2: the surprises.
- 31:22Speaker 1: It's true. And she was definitely, it was like a
- 31:25Speaker 1: heartfelt gesture from everyone. But then, see, we have two
- 31:29Speaker 1: different things you can look at. You look at the
- 31:31Speaker 1: one who's lonely. but peaceful. She's not, she doesn't have
- 31:34Speaker 1: a guy being mad about what she's doing. She could
- 31:37Speaker 1: come and go as she pleases. She's got her dog,
- 31:40Speaker 1: but she's miserable. Then you have Vicky who's getting, going
- 31:44Speaker 1: through all that because she's with somebody. You know what
- 31:46Speaker 1: I mean? You see what I'm saying?
- 31:47Speaker 2: It's not good regard. Like we all are going through
- 31:50Speaker 2: it in some way. It's just, everyone has their own thing.
- 31:54Speaker 2: But I, Shannon made me laugh when I forgot, maybe
- 31:58Speaker 2: Jen walked in and she's like, you like it cold
- 32:01Speaker 2: in your house, don't you? And she's like, no, my
- 32:03Speaker 2: dogs do.
- 32:03Speaker 1: The dogs like it cold.
- 32:07Speaker 2: It's okay to.
- 32:08Speaker 1: Say you like it cold? Yeah. How does she know
- 32:11Speaker 1: the dogs like it cold?
- 32:12Speaker 2: Did you not see them panting at the beginning? I
- 32:16Speaker 2: was like, I can't with these editors knowing they're going
- 32:19Speaker 2: to say the dogs want to be cold after they're
- 32:21Speaker 2: panting because they probably just got back from a walk.
- 32:24Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 32:26Speaker 2: But then the women then Vicky says she Shannon and
- 32:29Speaker 2: Tamar slowly rebuilding their friendship. Did like we expect this
- 32:33Speaker 2: was going to happen.
- 32:35Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. What's going on in my show?
- 32:38Speaker 2: It was World War Three.
- 32:40Speaker 1: It's like. They should get the Nobel Peace Prize over here.
- 32:43Speaker 2: Yeah. So the whole point of the show is conflict
- 32:48Speaker 2: and resolution.
- 32:49Speaker 1: Correct. And I did think that they've come back from
- 32:52Speaker 1: worse things that I've seen. You know what I mean?
- 32:54Speaker 1: This is years of going back and forth. But Shannon
- 32:59Speaker 1: seems very timid to me.
- 33:01Speaker 2: She seems timid to me, too. I think she is
- 33:04Speaker 2: going through it.
- 33:07Speaker 1: Like she seems... I think she's a little sad.
- 33:10Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 33:10Speaker 1: She seems.
- 33:13Speaker 1: Yeah, she seems really sad.
- 33:16Speaker 2: She seems fragile.
- 33:17Speaker 1: Yes, she seems very fragile.
- 33:21Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, that's what I noticed. Take that off, Shannon.
- 33:24Speaker 1: That'll get to you real quick.
- 33:26Speaker 2: Yeah, because also she's saying she's nervous about the one-on-one
- 33:29Speaker 2: lunch with Tamara.
- 33:30Speaker 1: Like, give me a break. You've been friends and off
- 33:34Speaker 1: and on with Tamara forever. Now, all of a sudden,
- 33:36Speaker 1: you're scared of her. Shannon, I am tough love. I
- 33:40Speaker 1: am not going to tolerate you being a baby about
- 33:42Speaker 1: this stuff. Shake it off and, you know, head up,
- 33:47Speaker 1: shoulders back and be tough. Yeah.
- 33:49Speaker 2: And go for it. But also, this is another you're
- 34:05Speaker 2: going to think it's weird that I noticed, but then
- 34:07Speaker 2: they're like, let's do cake. Let's do cake. Did you
- 34:09Speaker 2: notice how four of them spit on the cake before
- 34:13Speaker 2: they ate it?
- 34:14Speaker 1: It's so sick. Why? You know, you do know. I'd rather.
- 34:21Speaker 1: I'd rather pick up shit than see somebody drool. Like
- 34:25Speaker 1: I have a thing with saliva. I'm not OK. So
- 34:29Speaker 1: tell me this because I missed it.
- 34:31Speaker 2: OK, so really all that what was happening was Shannon
- 34:33Speaker 2: was struggling to blow out the candle.
- 34:35Speaker 1: I did.
- 34:36Speaker 2: Oh, so then the other girls chimed in.
- 34:39Speaker 1: I always take the first layer off the cake before
- 34:42Speaker 1: I eat it.
- 34:43Speaker 2: You do?
- 34:43Speaker 1: Hell yeah!
- 34:45Speaker 2: Well, then that's all I could think about was, did
- 34:47Speaker 2: anyone eat the cake after this happened? I mean, the
- 34:49Speaker 2: night was pretty much over, so maybe not.
- 34:51Speaker 1: Dad brought it home for her dog.
- 34:56Speaker 2: Did he make a cameo this episode? I think he did.
- 34:59Speaker 2: And they were outside talking. He's a new cast member.
- 35:04Speaker 1: She's like, you want me to get you some water
- 35:07Speaker 1: or something? She had to bring him in and he
- 35:10Speaker 1: was overheating outside. I think it's funny when.
- 35:15Speaker 2: We talk shit about the dog. It was dark out.
- 35:18Speaker 2: It was like 6 p.m. and she's having a conversation
- 35:20Speaker 2: with Dawson and Grayson and the dog's like....
- 35:29Speaker 1: Not an ounce of fat on her.
- 35:31Speaker 2: She's like, do you want to sip my protein.
- 35:36Speaker 1: Shake?
- 35:38Speaker 2: But this is where Dawson talks about wanting to leave
- 35:40Speaker 2: the Marines, but how much his dad really wants him
- 35:42Speaker 2: to stay. And I think he wants to say too.
- 35:45Speaker 1: I have to say that her boys are lovely. Like
- 35:51Speaker 1: I love, I just want to hug them. I love
- 35:54Speaker 1: her kids. You know, show me your kids and I'll
- 35:56Speaker 1: show you who you are. Kudos to Jen. She raised men.
- 36:00Speaker 1: They're beautiful boys. They're close. And thank you for your service, Dawson. But,
- 36:08Speaker 1: you know, the father's like, stick it out. You started.
- 36:11Speaker 1: It's a big accomplishment. My family are Marines. I wanted
- 36:14Speaker 1: to join the Marines. It's a sense of accomplishment to finish.
- 36:17Speaker 1: And I think he should really Stick it out.
- 36:19Speaker 2: Yeah. I think once you start something, you stick it out.
- 36:21Speaker 2: That's how I treated my kids.
- 36:23Speaker 1: Yeah. You don't like it. You started it. Finish it. Yeah.
- 36:26Speaker 2: We're going to finish it.
- 36:27Speaker 1: Easy for me to say, but I got to go
- 36:29Speaker 1: in blackout mode.
- 36:32Speaker 2: I think though that, um, because earlier on in the season,
- 36:36Speaker 2: remember there was a scene between Jen and Grayson when
- 36:39Speaker 2: he got a speeding ticket and he was like, I
- 36:42Speaker 2: just don't have both my parents. So I think they're
- 36:44Speaker 2: trying to give the illusion that, But I think the
- 36:47Speaker 2: dad's still in the picture. I think he just doesn't
- 36:49Speaker 2: get along with Ryan and Jen.
- 36:52Speaker 1: Right.
- 36:54Speaker 2: There's two different, two things can be true. He can
- 36:56Speaker 2: still be a good dad and not want to be
- 36:59Speaker 2: around Ryan and Jen.
- 37:01Speaker 1: Those kids were reared well. Yeah. Okay. So, you know,
- 37:06Speaker 1: she's only been divorced in the past few years. They
- 37:09Speaker 1: don't look, you know, to me like kids that had
- 37:13Speaker 1: terrible parents or. They seem to be on the right
- 37:15Speaker 1: track and doing well. So I mean, I can't knock
- 37:19Speaker 1: the husband. I don't know him. I don't know enough
- 37:21Speaker 1: about him.
- 37:22Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. But then I think it's funny.
- 37:25Speaker 1: He doesn't pay bills. He made her flounder financially. That
- 37:29Speaker 1: wasn't nice.
- 37:30Speaker 2: That was. But he also worked for her parents.
- 37:33Speaker 1: Her parents have money work. He worked for her dad.
- 37:37Speaker 1: Her parents have money.
- 37:38Speaker 2: I don't know how much money they have, but that
- 37:40Speaker 2: was his job before they got divorced.
- 37:43Speaker 1: I thought that he had a lot of money or something.
- 37:46Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 37:46Speaker 2: No, he listened like a one bedroom.
- 37:50Speaker 1: Oh, more clear to me. I felt like he was
- 37:53Speaker 1: like in finance or see, I had this whole different.
- 37:56Speaker 2: No, he had, he had a big title job, but
- 37:58Speaker 2: it was at Jen's parents company. And like, that's why
- 38:02Speaker 2: he would be like bi-coastal or whatever it's called when
- 38:04Speaker 2: somebody would go to another state and then come back.
- 38:06Speaker 1: Well, Thank you for that information. You're welcome.
- 38:09Speaker 2: I'm just a bundle of useless information.
- 38:10Speaker 1: You really are. It's not useless. I feel differently about something.
- 38:16Speaker 2: So then Grayson.
- 38:18Speaker 1: Struggles to open and struggles opening up to his parents.
- 38:22Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? He's like, I like
- 38:24Speaker 1: speaking to a therapist. Most kids don't want to talk
- 38:27Speaker 1: to their parents.
- 38:28Speaker 2: Yeah. Slate wouldn't even let me take. Today was her
- 38:31Speaker 2: first day and her like picture day. And she wouldn't
- 38:34Speaker 2: even let me take a picture.
- 38:35Speaker 1: What grade is she in now? eighth well that's even.
- 38:38Speaker 2: Let me take a picture I mean and she had
- 38:41Speaker 2: she had a full glam done by herself I'm like.
- 38:46Speaker 1: And you would think she'd want her picture taken.
- 38:48Speaker 2: I'm like you look beautiful like why don't you can't
- 38:51Speaker 2: you do my glam like that as I'm like sitting
- 38:53Speaker 2: there like red face and peeling scratchy and she's like
- 38:57Speaker 2: I'm like you look stunning and she's like thanks I
- 39:00Speaker 2: did my makeup But that's why she couldn't walk to
- 39:02Speaker 2: the bus today because she didn't want to mess up
- 39:04Speaker 2: her makeup.
- 39:05Speaker 1: You had to drive her?
- 39:08Speaker 2: Well, I can't drive, but yes, someone had to drive her.
- 39:11Speaker 1: That is... She didn't want to mess her makeup.
- 39:14Speaker 2: Yeah, because I can walk to the bus, but I
- 39:16Speaker 2: can't do the driving. So that's how it goes. But
- 39:19Speaker 2: either way, she won't even take a picture with me.
- 39:20Speaker 2: So I get how Grayson's saying he doesn't totally want to.
- 39:23Speaker 1: Talk to that sidebar number one jen's like men's amour
- 39:29Speaker 1: she just sits there he's like you know i want
- 39:32Speaker 1: to quit the marine she's like so what's your dad
- 39:34Speaker 1: say oh how about say don't quit buddy you came
- 39:37Speaker 1: this far like don't i don't want to see this
- 39:39Speaker 1: camera or how about like when when um grayson says Like,
- 39:44Speaker 1: I miss talking to a therapist. Well, how about say,
- 39:47Speaker 1: you'll be in one tomorrow if that's what you want, buddy. Yeah.
- 39:50Speaker 1: We'll make sure you're in one tomorrow.
- 39:53Speaker 2: The issue we're having with Jen this season, which I
- 39:57Speaker 2: like her this season, I'm being honest.
- 39:58Speaker 1: I always like Jen.
- 40:00Speaker 2: I like Jen, but I think she also, some of
- 40:03Speaker 2: these conversations are played out for the camera. So there
- 40:08Speaker 2: has to be a certain narrative surrounding them. And when
- 40:11Speaker 2: that narrative gets... Tweaked a little. She's like, well, like
- 40:14Speaker 2: you saw when she came back in.
- 40:17Speaker 1: Like they let the boys talk. Yeah. Yeah.
- 40:20Speaker 2: And then the boys jokingly were like, you're the word.
- 40:23Speaker 2: We said you were the worst. And she's like, what?
- 40:26Speaker 2: You could see like actual panic in her face for
- 40:28Speaker 2: a second.
- 40:29Speaker 1: Like to think, oh, God, what did you guys say
- 40:31Speaker 1: about me?
- 40:32Speaker 2: But I mean, I thought it was I thought, you know,
- 40:34Speaker 2: I think they have a good relationship.
- 40:36Speaker 1: Beautiful. Yeah.
- 40:38Speaker 2: To spice things up. Tamara, a.k.a. Miss Juicy, and Eddie
- 40:44Speaker 2: meet at a hotel for some sexy time.
- 40:46Speaker 1: Dead. Don't tell me. It was like soft porn. Like,
- 40:52Speaker 1: compare it to another sex scene in a... Housewives. In
- 40:56Speaker 1: 20 years.
- 40:58Speaker 2: The only sex scene that I could kind of think
- 41:00Speaker 2: it was somewhat close to was Whitney Rose's when she was, like,
- 41:04Speaker 2: naked on the painting.
- 41:06Speaker 1: We have to talk about that. Like... That was a
- 41:13Speaker 1: big one, but I didn't watch it, but I kind
- 41:15Speaker 1: of like knew about it.
- 41:17Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 41:17Speaker 1: But I guess that, so you, that's the only one
- 41:20Speaker 1: in all these years. Yeah.
- 41:24Speaker 2: I mean, other than when Tamara and Eddie were in
- 41:26Speaker 2: the bathtub.
- 41:28Speaker 1: Well, Teresa was in the bathtub with Joe, Jude ice,
- 41:31Speaker 1: juicy Joe.
- 41:33Speaker 2: Oh, see, that's pretty.
- 41:34Speaker 1: Let's go back to New York. When the guy got
- 41:37Speaker 1: out of bed and there was a shit stain on this. Remember? Yes.
- 41:45Speaker 1: Who was that? Like a big skid mark.
- 41:48Speaker 2: Sick. He thought it was just a tube, but it
- 41:51Speaker 2: came out as more. Couldn't help it. It was a shard.
- 41:58Speaker 2: He sharded himself.
- 42:01Speaker 1: Who was he in bed with?
- 42:03Speaker 2: I can't remember.
- 42:04Speaker 1: Let's not take away from this amazing scene. Yeah. I
- 42:07Speaker 1: felt like, okay, so that was like gross, but funny.
- 42:11Speaker 1: Hold on.
- 42:12Speaker 2: First they walk in and she's like, for Miss Juicy.
- 42:15Speaker 1: I mean.
- 42:17Speaker 2: And then they sit down and they're at like their
- 42:19Speaker 2: two top and she orders champagne and he's like, I've
- 42:23Speaker 2: got tequila. And she's like, that makes you want to
- 42:25Speaker 2: take your clothes off. She's still wearing her trench coat.
- 42:28Speaker 2: I don't realize until this dinner.
- 42:29Speaker 1: That wasn't even a trench coat. That was like a
- 42:31Speaker 1: fur coat you wear in New Jersey in the middle
- 42:33Speaker 1: of the winter. Was it cold that day?
- 42:37Speaker 2: Well, then when she goes, you could tell this was
- 42:39Speaker 2: probably after a glass of champagne. She's like, well, look.
- 42:45Speaker 1: I died. I died. And Eddie was like, oh, wow,
- 42:50Speaker 1: that's nice. I thought to myself, would I get the
- 42:54Speaker 1: same reaction from Paul? I know I don't look the
- 42:57Speaker 1: same as Tamara, but I don't even... Like, I don't know.
- 43:02Speaker 1: And he's like, close that up. There's people here.
- 43:06Speaker 2: I know they're closing up. So then they go, they
- 43:08Speaker 2: close it up.
- 43:08Speaker 1: He wasn't being shy. I mean, I don't know what
- 43:10Speaker 1: she took before she got there, but send it this way,
- 43:13Speaker 1: Tamara Grudge.
- 43:14Speaker 2: Yeah, because hers was tingling, obviously, as well.
- 43:18Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Kristen Henninian. What did you give her?
- 43:21Speaker 2: Viagra?
- 43:23Speaker 1: There is a female Viagra. It's called Addie, A-D-D-I. Oh, really?
- 43:28Speaker 2: Oh, good to know. But then they play an adult
- 43:33Speaker 2: Jenga where... I can't. When Eddie spanks Tamra and.
- 43:42Speaker 1: She gets on the force and barks like a dog.
- 43:47Speaker 1: She's earned her money. She's earned her keep. Tamra, you
- 43:53Speaker 1: could take off for the rest of the season. Because
- 43:55Speaker 1: I would... She's like, she's a team player, bro. Because
- 44:00Speaker 1: you would.
- 44:01Speaker 2: Like, hold on when she, when he goes to slap
- 44:04Speaker 2: her butt, which I don't even know if you could
- 44:05Speaker 2: call it that when he like, would look like if he,
- 44:11Speaker 2: he gets so embarrassed that he laughs and he puts
- 44:13Speaker 2: his head on it right on her butt.
- 44:15Speaker 1: I know. I know. Wait, can I just say this
- 44:18Speaker 1: whole thing? I was dying the whole time. The whole time.
- 44:23Speaker 1: I was dying from the minute. I'm I can't wait
- 44:27Speaker 1: to see what people have to say about this. Yeah.
- 44:29Speaker 2: I mean, I, I got to say, seeing her bark
- 44:32Speaker 2: like a dog, like, I want to make her do
- 44:33Speaker 2: that weekly on the pod.
- 44:34Speaker 1: That's going to be a meme. She did it well.
- 44:37Speaker 1: She wasn't even caring. Like, she's like, okay, I'll do it.
- 44:41Speaker 1: I'd be like, listen, producers, I'm out. Like, I'm out.
- 44:46Speaker 2: But I think what they do show here is that, like,
- 44:48Speaker 2: their relationship is.
- 44:52Speaker 1: Solid.
- 44:52Speaker 2: Like, they want to work on it. They love each other.
- 44:55Speaker 1: They do love... I've been with them.
- 44:57Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 44:57Speaker 1: And they do love each other. And he is... And
- 45:00Speaker 1: she's what she's accountable. She's like, listen, I'm not easy.
- 45:05Speaker 1: I am. I am rough. And he is a good man.
- 45:08Speaker 1: And I've seen him. He's like kind of like they're
- 45:11Speaker 1: yin and yang. You know, he's very easygoing. Yeah. So easygoing.
- 45:18Speaker 1: And she's very like type A.
- 45:21Speaker 2: But I think for the like, I mean, I've seen
- 45:23Speaker 2: Tamara cry a lot. But when I saw her cry
- 45:25Speaker 2: in this episode. about Eddie, it was a different kind
- 45:28Speaker 2: of cry. Like I felt her like whole body choke up.
- 45:31Speaker 1: Like, like she was like, she had that lump in
- 45:33Speaker 1: her throat. Yeah.
- 45:34Speaker 2: Like you could tell, like.
- 45:35Speaker 1: It would, like if she lost him, it would kill her.
- 45:39Speaker 1: I hope that he saw that. And I hope that
- 45:42Speaker 1: he felt if he remembers that next time he wants
- 45:45Speaker 1: to kill her or next time she's being a bitch. Yeah.
- 45:48Speaker 2: Next time you want, like next time he wants to
- 45:50Speaker 2: throw that word around. But I think, um, Then we
- 45:54Speaker 2: get to Shannon FaceTiming Tamara. So they're done with the night.
- 45:59Speaker 2: They end it with like, all right, we're all going
- 46:01Speaker 2: to bed now. You know, like, so then production leaves.
- 46:05Speaker 2: They probably have.
- 46:06Speaker 1: Did they really have? I mean, that poor guy was
- 46:09Speaker 1: holding out for like the whole out. Like he was
- 46:11Speaker 1: just sitting with a smile on his face.
- 46:12Speaker 2: They had to have, with all that effort, they had
- 46:14Speaker 2: to have gotten it in. But then.
- 46:18Speaker 1: That was a, that was a hot. that was a
- 46:21Speaker 1: hot scene. I'm sorry. It was like, what about when
- 46:23Speaker 1: he was like with her finger?
- 46:25Speaker 2: He was like, I actually thought that was hot. I got,
- 46:28Speaker 2: that was hot.
- 46:29Speaker 1: I got the little movement on that.
- 46:31Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 46:33Speaker 1: But then they, they pan away and you hear her go.
- 46:37Speaker 2: Cause she felt a little bit.
- 46:40Speaker 1: I'm sweating right now.
- 46:42Speaker 2: Yeah. Tamara.
- 46:42Speaker 1: We're so proud of you.
- 46:44Speaker 2: Good job for bringing it back to him. So then
- 46:46Speaker 2: Shannon FaceTime's Tamara and says that it's Vicky's birthday. and
- 46:51Speaker 2: wants the three of them to meet instead. You can
- 46:53Speaker 2: immediately tell this bothers Tamara. And she doesn't hide it.
- 46:57Speaker 2: She's like, uh, okay, I guess.
- 47:02Speaker 1: Well, because it's like, what are you afraid of? Stop
- 47:07Speaker 1: acting like this. I don't have the patience for this
- 47:10Speaker 1: type of, like, going on about this. Like, you know,
- 47:14Speaker 1: Shannon's not typically... Is she, is this really the way
- 47:19Speaker 1: she is like scared, timid? Cause the first time I
- 47:21Speaker 1: met him, Shannon Bedore, she wasn't anything like that.
- 47:26Speaker 2: But I think a lot has changed in the last
- 47:28Speaker 2: two and a half years.
- 47:30Speaker 1: Yes.
- 47:31Speaker 2: I think a lot has changed.
- 47:33Speaker 1: That's for sure. I mean, it's like somebody who's been,
- 47:38Speaker 1: you know, through it like traumatic, like, you know, she's fragile,
- 47:40Speaker 1: like you said, but you know, I, the first time
- 47:43Speaker 1: I met Shannon, she, Was not that nice. And that
- 47:47Speaker 1: was 10 years ago. Yeah.
- 47:49Speaker 2: She wasn't that nice to you?
- 47:51Speaker 1: Nope. What'd she do? So it was my first trip
- 47:57Speaker 1: as a housewife. Yeah. I think I went to Atlanta, Georgia.
- 48:02Speaker 1: We were doing like a party together. She kept me
- 48:07Speaker 1: out of every conversation.
- 48:09Speaker 2: Like put her back towards you?
- 48:10Speaker 1: Yeah. And acted like she, we were with Jamie. He
- 48:14Speaker 1: was like our, the guy that like, you know, our
- 48:18Speaker 1: handler and, uh, only spoke to him about their dealings
- 48:24Speaker 1: and things that they've done together. And I sat there
- 48:27Speaker 1: like not a part of any type of conversation. I
- 48:30Speaker 1: remember specifically saying that like about her house, she had
- 48:35Speaker 1: a big house at the time, right? Yeah.
- 48:38Speaker 2: Because that's when she still was with David.
- 48:40Speaker 1: Okay. Talking about her house and things like that. And
- 48:45Speaker 1: I tried to enter into the conversation a couple of
- 48:47Speaker 1: times and I never forgot. It wasn't nice. No. So
- 48:52Speaker 1: I don't know Shannon to always like, I don't think
- 48:55Speaker 1: she's always like, and I was really excited to be there.
- 48:57Speaker 1: Like they had me and my kids pictures in my
- 48:59Speaker 1: room when I got there. It felt like a big shot.
- 49:02Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that, I think, I think things have shifted.
- 49:08Speaker 2: I think she's been a little humbled. But then this
- 49:13Speaker 2: is perfectly laid out. Vicky, Shannon are waiting for Tamara.
- 49:19Speaker 2: and they're discussing Tamara and they're like, Oh, I think
- 49:21Speaker 2: Tamara's here. I think Tamara's here. And they're like looking.
- 49:24Speaker 2: And then they're like, you see like one of their
- 49:26Speaker 2: hands go down and then you see Tamara walking into
- 49:28Speaker 2: Javier's where the other girls are.
- 49:30Speaker 1: That was, that was perfectly played.
- 49:35Speaker 2: Perfectly played. Cut that out where I said paid. Um,
- 49:38Speaker 2: but then, This is where it continues on. So she
- 49:41Speaker 2: sits down and all the girls are like, Heather's like,
- 49:44Speaker 2: you don't mind that I invited Tamara. And they're like joking.
- 49:46Speaker 2: They're like, oh, yeah, we mind. Ha ha ha ha.
- 49:48Speaker 2: You know, like whatever.
- 49:49Speaker 1: They really did.
- 49:49Speaker 2: But and then Tamara is like, oh, well, yeah, I
- 49:55Speaker 2: was supposed to be with Shannon for her birthday, but
- 49:58Speaker 2: then she wanted to be me, her and Vicky. So
- 50:00Speaker 2: then I just sent Vicky flowers to the table.
- 50:04Speaker 1: Well, it's always that bad. Those flat, when you see
- 50:08Speaker 1: those flowers coming, like remember when the flowers were sent
- 50:11Speaker 1: on my episode? Yeah.
- 50:13Speaker 2: Like did Marge send them?
- 50:14Speaker 1: Marge sent a funeral arrangement when we were having a
- 50:17Speaker 1: meeting with James Leonard and Teresa, Jackie, Jen, Danielle Cabral. Gee,
- 50:24Speaker 1: it was at the table. And it was basically about
- 50:30Speaker 1: stuff that they had revealed. No need to rehash that.
- 50:34Speaker 1: And all of a sudden you see on the camera,
- 50:36Speaker 1: there's like a funeral arrangement at the tour. And I
- 50:40Speaker 1: think it read, um, my deepest sympathy to your pride
- 50:44Speaker 1: or something. I don't even remember. It was like my
- 50:49Speaker 1: deepest sympathies for whatever. So Teresa yelled at the poor guy,
- 50:52Speaker 1: almost cried, told him to get off the property.
- 50:54Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. That is, I mean, this was kind
- 50:59Speaker 2: of one of those moments.
- 51:01Speaker 1: It was one of those moments for me. I felt like, yeah.
- 51:05Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 51:05Speaker 1: I was like, well, sorry for the loss of your dignity.
- 51:11Speaker 1: Sorry for the loss of your dignity.
- 51:14Speaker 2: Well, this one was signed from Tamara Judge.
- 51:17Speaker 1: I mean, Tamara.
- 51:18Speaker 2: I'm sorry. This one was signed from Tamara Grudge.
- 51:21Speaker 1: I will never call her Tamara Judge again.
- 51:23Speaker 2: I have to remember that she's grudge only.
- 51:26Speaker 1: Only grudge. We only call her Tamra Grudge. She, like,
- 51:31Speaker 1: that was so good. Yeah.
- 51:33Speaker 2: I feel like, well, she also, she did a perfect
- 51:36Speaker 2: amount of passive aggressiveness. Like, she's like, I didn't want
- 51:39Speaker 2: to make Shannon feel uncomfortable. Knowing good and well Shannon's
- 51:42Speaker 2: going to be there while she's reading this note for.
- 51:44Speaker 1: The full hours. So then Shannon's like, told you so. See,
- 51:48Speaker 1: I was right about everything. I knew I felt this
- 51:52Speaker 1: way for a reason. I thought they were beautiful flowers,
- 51:56Speaker 1: by the way.
- 51:57Speaker 2: Those were nice flowers.
- 51:57Speaker 1: They were not cheap.
- 51:59Speaker 2: Those were pricey flowers.
- 52:01Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 52:02Speaker 2: But, I mean, I think this is what Tamara needed
- 52:05Speaker 2: to do in order for Shannon to wake up. Like, Shannon,
- 52:10Speaker 2: you're either a part of this and we're going to
- 52:11Speaker 2: get it figured out or, like, let's just... Like, yeah, like.
- 52:17Speaker 1: Shannon's got to stop being mopey. I'm tired of seeing
- 52:21Speaker 1: her crying. I'm tired of seeing her cry about being
- 52:24Speaker 1: by herself. I don't want to see it anymore. Yeah.
- 52:28Speaker 1: Be happy. Yeah.
- 52:29Speaker 2: Or just be willing to try. You can't force yourself
- 52:35Speaker 2: to be happy, but you can be willing to try.
- 52:37Speaker 1: She's acting like Tamara beat her up. I know. I
- 52:41Speaker 1: can understand if Tamara physically hurt her. Yeah. Yeah.
- 52:45Speaker 2: I mean, I but I liked the fake out. And
- 52:47Speaker 2: I was like, this doesn't really remind me of anything
- 52:50Speaker 2: from the past because it's not like Tamra's there throwing
- 52:52Speaker 2: napkins or like flipping tables or like nothing like that's
- 52:56Speaker 2: like happening.
- 52:58Speaker 1: And you know what? And who said this in this episode?
- 53:01Speaker 1: And I remember hearing this. They're both went after each other.
- 53:05Speaker 1: It's not just like it was always Tamra picking on her.
- 53:08Speaker 2: Yeah, they both.
- 53:10Speaker 1: They went. Yeah, they both went after each other. Yeah.
- 53:13Speaker 2: Um, well then Vicky fills Shannon in about Gina telling
- 53:17Speaker 2: her what Tamara said about the ring. Oh yeah. And,
- 53:22Speaker 2: but Shannon's reaction, like, what do you mean?
- 53:23Speaker 1: Hold on.
- 53:24Speaker 2: What? Oh my God. I don't believe it. I was like,
- 53:28Speaker 2: did you act this out and practice it in front
- 53:30Speaker 2: of the mirror before?
- 53:31Speaker 1: No, she acts like that all the time. Come on. No, listen,
- 53:36Speaker 1: she acts like that, you know, and you know, don't
- 53:40Speaker 1: act like, you're not used to these things being brought
- 53:42Speaker 1: up on camera either.
- 53:44Speaker 2: But that's what I mean, that level of shock. And like,
- 53:46Speaker 2: it's the first time you've heard it. Please.
- 53:49Speaker 1: She's... But, Tati, don't act like she's not an animated person.
- 54:09Speaker 2: Okay, so then... Back at Javier's, Emily leads the charge,
- 54:13Speaker 2: confronting Heather about calling Carmela trashy and not belonging with
- 54:17Speaker 2: the group.
- 54:18Speaker 1: Emily is after Heather.
- 54:20Speaker 2: I know.
- 54:21Speaker 1: She is going hard.
- 54:23Speaker 2: She is going hard.
- 54:24Speaker 1: Last season, she went after Tamara, Emily.
- 54:28Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. I remember. I forgot about that. I was
- 54:30Speaker 2: trying to think, who was all the drama between last
- 54:32Speaker 2: season and then now?
- 54:33Speaker 1: It was Emily and Heather a lot. Well, no, I'm sorry.
- 54:37Speaker 1: Emily and Tamara. But Tamara didn't fight with her that
- 54:41Speaker 1: much because Gretchen was there.
- 54:44Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Gretchers.
- 54:46Speaker 1: Gretchers. Gretchers was last season. It was Gretchers and Tamara.
- 54:51Speaker 1: And Emily was like kind of like fighting with Tamara
- 54:55Speaker 1: a lot. And then now it's Emily and Heather.
- 54:57Speaker 2: So maybe this is the answer to our question. Maybe
- 55:00Speaker 2: Emily is the one to bring it to the group
- 55:02Speaker 2: because she's the one to bring it to this table.
- 55:05Speaker 1: She's bringing it.
- 55:06Speaker 2: Yeah, she's bringing it. She's bringing it to. I mean,
- 55:09Speaker 2: at least she's telling Heather. So it's not I hate
- 55:11Speaker 2: if she if nobody would have told Heather and we
- 55:13Speaker 2: would had to gone out the whole season with Carmela
- 55:15Speaker 2: bitching behind Heather's back that she called her, you know,
- 55:19Speaker 2: like trash when really they like Heather did the right
- 55:24Speaker 2: thing by apologizing to her for it.
- 55:26Speaker 1: Well, Heather, like you said, got ahead of it.
- 55:29Speaker 2: Yeah. But I feel like Emily was not going to
- 55:32Speaker 2: let Heather get away with it if it's the last
- 55:34Speaker 2: thing she did.
- 55:36Speaker 1: No, she wasn't. But don't forget, you have homework. You're
- 55:40Speaker 1: going to find out who was the rat.
- 55:42Speaker 2: Yeah. Who was the rat? I'm going to figure it out. Well,
- 55:45Speaker 2: then the women meet at the park for Jen's spiritual
- 55:48Speaker 2: exercise and lunch. After a non-eventful energy session, Heather pulls
- 55:57Speaker 2: Carmela aside and reveals to her what she said and apologizes.
- 56:00Speaker 1: The poor lady at the energy session, you know.
- 56:02Speaker 2: How embarrassed for her.
- 56:04Speaker 1: It's so embarrassing.
- 56:07Speaker 2: How are you feeling?
- 56:08Speaker 1: She was trying. Health?
- 56:12Speaker 2: Like, this isn't what they mean. At least Emily gave
- 56:16Speaker 2: it a shot and I think used a word that like,
- 56:20Speaker 2: or no, did Emily say family? I don't know, but
- 56:22Speaker 2: it just, no, Gina said that.
- 56:25Speaker 1: Gina said family. Emily said guilt. Oh, yeah. Guilt.
- 56:32Speaker 2: I mean, this entire I mean, you could tell that
- 56:35Speaker 2: Jen was cringing that she's brought her friend and do
- 56:37Speaker 2: this and nobody's taking it seriously.
- 56:40Speaker 1: Well, you know, it is you feel a sense of
- 56:42Speaker 1: responsibility when you bring somebody on to promote their business
- 56:47Speaker 1: or whatever. And the girls like shit all over them. Yeah.
- 56:51Speaker 2: And then you're like, oh, sorry.
- 56:52Speaker 1: They have no shame. They do it. They've done it
- 56:54Speaker 1: on my show. I never do that, though, Teddy. I
- 56:57Speaker 1: always try to be, like, really nice unless I don't
- 57:00Speaker 1: like the person.
- 57:01Speaker 2: No, it's like I try to... You try to show
- 57:03Speaker 2: up for everything and you try to be happy for them. And, like,
- 57:07Speaker 2: you also participate.
- 57:12Speaker 1: You participate. You take it serious. You're going to see
- 57:15Speaker 1: on my episodes... The girls this season with me, remember
- 57:21Speaker 1: this guys, the girls this season did not take something
- 57:25Speaker 1: serious and I got really mad about it.
- 57:28Speaker 2: Oh, see, I kind of hold it in and then
- 57:30Speaker 2: I'm mad later and then I'll just think about it forever.
- 57:32Speaker 1: There was a reason I got mad right away. It's
- 57:35Speaker 1: almost funny.
- 57:36Speaker 2: Okay, I can't wait.
- 57:38Speaker 1: But I won't tell you.
- 57:39Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear back. But then they sit
- 57:42Speaker 2: down for lunch. They get their croissant.
- 57:44Speaker 1: In a box. I think it's great and so cute.
- 57:48Speaker 2: And then Heather must have like, I was like, oh, Heather,
- 57:52Speaker 2: did you see Carmela's bank account? So you got a
- 57:54Speaker 2: glimpse of it. So you have a little combo with
- 57:56Speaker 2: her in the back. She's like, she's like, I think
- 58:01Speaker 2: you're a great girl.
- 58:02Speaker 1: But I called you trashy before I knew how much
- 58:06Speaker 1: money you had.
- 58:07Speaker 2: But then I thought that, like, Carmela's so sweet.
- 58:09Speaker 1: How do you not know how much money Carmela has
- 58:11Speaker 1: before she got on the show? We knew how much
- 58:13Speaker 1: money she had.
- 58:13Speaker 2: We knew how much money she has. But then, like,
- 58:15Speaker 2: Carmela's like, I want to, you know, there's nothing worse
- 58:18Speaker 2: than feeling like you're not enough. Like, even what there's,
- 58:21Speaker 2: no matter what they're throwing at Carmela, she's still being, like,
- 58:23Speaker 2: authentic and vulnerable and not, like, being.
- 58:28Speaker 1: I don't think she cares that much.
- 58:30Speaker 2: Well, I think when she said when you feel like
- 58:32Speaker 2: when they started in her confessional, she didn't seem like
- 58:34Speaker 2: she cared when she was talking to Heather.
- 58:36Speaker 1: No.
- 58:37Speaker 2: But when in the confessional and she's like, yeah, when
- 58:39Speaker 2: things keep getting thrown in your face like you're not enough,
- 58:43Speaker 2: it hurts.
- 58:44Speaker 1: You know. I understand her and I I think, you know,
- 58:49Speaker 1: everyone's human, right? No matter how much I never judge
- 58:53Speaker 1: anybody by the way they're acting, because I hold a
- 58:56Speaker 1: lot of things in. I'm not emotional. I don't cry.
- 58:58Speaker 1: So she might be that girl. She's been through like, listen,
- 59:02Speaker 1: I don't think she's she's been through.
- 59:04Speaker 2: She's with someone that doesn't even open his mouth.
- 59:06Speaker 1: She's with someone that doesn't open his mouth she's she's
- 59:09Speaker 1: got a temper we all know we don't know what
- 59:11Speaker 1: her life has been like she's never been back home
- 59:13Speaker 1: since she left and we don't know like she has
- 59:17Speaker 1: a tough exterior everybody's been through things in their life
- 59:20Speaker 1: that makes them handle things differently right yeah I never
- 59:24Speaker 1: judge someone by their feelings, not like not seeing their
- 59:27Speaker 1: feelings hurt. You have to remember the person's human.
- 59:31Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 59:32Speaker 1: Just because I don't cry doesn't mean I don't hurt.
- 59:34Speaker 2: You don't like have emotion. But they're back at the
- 59:37Speaker 2: table now. And Shannon is basically in anaphylactic shock while
- 59:43Speaker 2: Gina is questioning why.
- 59:47Speaker 1: What the hell? But wait a second. Why did her
- 59:50Speaker 1: anaphylactic shock happen at that time?
- 59:53Speaker 2: Because they were questioning her.
- 59:55Speaker 1: So she's allergic to questions?
- 59:58Speaker 2: Yes. Both. I think Tamara said she's allergic to me.
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: Because if she was allergic to the feathers or anything
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: else there, she would have sneezed as soon as she
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: sat down.
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: Well, I think Tamara addresses why she didn't show up
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: with the Shannon and Vicky lunch. And as that's happening,
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: that's when the anaphylactic shock comes into play.
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: Correct. But like I said, How? I mean, you can't
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: fake sneezing. I do believe it was real sneezing. Really?
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: What?
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: That was so fake.
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: That's actually what my sneeze smells like. Sneeze sounds like.
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: And that was not so fake.
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: Okay. I want to ask you. It was totally fake.
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: That was fake.
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: Okay. I didn't say I could do a fake one.
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: You tell me. You think that was fake?
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: Uh.
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: She had, like, snot on her chin. They were like.
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: I think at the beginning it was not, and then
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: it transpired.
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: Really, Teddy? I don't think so. I disagree.
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. Her eyes did seem, like, really
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: bloodshot afterward. Like, she couldn't get her breath. But anyhow,
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: nothing really gets cleared up between Shannon and Tamara at
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: this point. Gina then brings up how she's like, why
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: hasn't Vicky confronted you, Tamara, about the ring rumor? And
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: then you see Vicky's eyes like, what? Like, and she
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: already knows the rumor. She knows that Tamara said it
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: and she's refusing to talk about it. That's what leads
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: me to believe she does not want to.
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: She's like, if this is on TV, he's going to
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: have a fit. You know, I feel bad. Like, I
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: don't want her relationship. I think her relationship means a
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: lot to her. And I don't want, like, her to
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: have a hard time with it. Like I feel bad.
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: Yeah. Well the girl, you can tell she feels bad too.
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: Cause the girls kind of try to chime in and
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: give their two cents. And then she's like, it doesn't matter.
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: It's none of your fucking business.
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up. I know, but he should, I
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: hope he gives her a little bit of a break.
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: I mean, come on.
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: Then I, I kind of was like, where's Jen in
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: the scene? She keeps like missing her moment to chime in.
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: Jen. Yeah. I don't know. But where was Carmela? Did
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: she have to go to bathroom? Cause she comes back
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: to a total shit show.
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: She comes back to a total shit show. And did
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: you see that she had her laptop with her?
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: Like Carmela did? Yes.
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: When they were walking for the apology.
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: Is she getting ready for a closing?
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: I think it was in case she thought Heather wanted
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: her to get the apartment. Well, any who, um, Vicky
- 1:02:46Speaker 2: then screams at Tamron and says he's going to lose
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: his shit if this is on TV. So the fact
- 1:02:51Speaker 2: that they're breaking the fourth wall means they really want
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: us to see it.
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: Yeah. But they're also want to solidify that this guy
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: has a problem with him being talked about on TV. Yeah.
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: But then it's like you. It really bugs me. It's like,
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: you know what you signed up for. Even if she
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: wasn't on the show, you know what she did for.
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: She was the OG of the OC. Hello. Hello.
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: I feel like somebody got to him. I've seen this
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: before and it was always because there was somebody else
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: influencing their idea about the show, how they talk about it,
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: what it would like, oh, it'll ruin your life. It'll
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: ruin your unscathed reputation and your casita. Like, you know,
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: I'm saying like there may be something behind this. Yeah.
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: I mean, I think he probably has something I mean,
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: we've never seen any bad things come out about him.
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: The guy's not sitting around watching Bravo. What does he
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: know anything about it? But then we go back to,
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: is she the one who was dumb enough, pillow talk,
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: looking for, you know, sometimes you look for attention from
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: your partner and you tell them things that you probably
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: shouldn't have.
- 1:04:04Speaker 2: See, but that's where I disagree with you. I think
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: she's telling him because she feels guilty. She's worried about
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: it to come out on the show. And him see
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: it before she tells him. I think she's doing it
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: right away.
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: Amateur.
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: Not because she wants comfort, but because she wants to
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: make sure she's got her bases covered.
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: Amateur. That's an amateur move.
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: I mean, but Vicky's saying that he's going to freak
- 1:04:31Speaker 2: out if this goes on TV. I'm like, you just
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: put it on TV.
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: Like, it is now.
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: Now that you've said that remark, it's on.
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: But she told Tamara. Off camera?
- 1:04:43Speaker 2: I don't know when she told Tamara.
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: Because Tamara's the one that revealed that he had a ring,
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: but he said, I think it was off camera when
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: he was in Vegas. If she's good for 90 days,
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: she gets a ring, but at 70, she screws up,
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: he takes it back. He starts from screwing up.
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, so we never actually heard the story on camera.
- 1:05:07Speaker 2: Until Tamara told us. Until Tamara told us. Um, but
- 1:05:12Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like if that wasn't enough,
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: Vicky goes off on Heather for trying to express her opinion. This,
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: that was kind of like uncalled for.
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: And no, Jen, he, she yelled at Jen.
- 1:05:24Speaker 2: Oh, first she yelled at Jen.
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: He's like, Jen, what do you, you shut up? She goes,
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: what are you yelling at me for? I'm not even
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: the one that started the conversation. She goes, cause I
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: just heard your voice. I heard you.
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: But then she yelled at Heather, too, because Heather tried
- 1:05:38Speaker 2: to interject. And she goes, you keep over interrupting me
- 1:05:41Speaker 2: and I can't even get a word. And she's like,
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: Heather's like, this is the first time I've actually spoken.
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: So Vicki was just in a state of panic. Yeah,
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: she's when this subject came up because she's worried about
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: having problems with him. Um, yeah.
- 1:05:55Speaker 2: So, and then we end the day as anybody should
- 1:05:58Speaker 2: with Vicki and Shannon accepting Christian Dior gifts from Carmela.
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: And I love her go-to like, what's your go-to gift
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: that you buy for people?
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: Regifted candles.
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: I'll take a candle. I won't give you one now.
- 1:06:15Speaker 2: No, actually I do. If you live in California, um,
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: Then I get you a pellicure gift certificate because it's
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: my favorite scrub in the entire world. Like you go
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: in and it's like a cure pellicure.
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: What's a pellicure pellicure.
- 1:06:30Speaker 2: You go in and like you, they have like this
- 1:06:33Speaker 2: shower that's above your head and it like flows water
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: on you. And then they scrub your body down and
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: then they give you a massage. It's like the best
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: when you come, I'm making you do it, but just
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: don't have a fresh spray tan.
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: Okay. Um, but, Vicky's a little bit jealous, I think,
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: of Shannon's gift.
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: She's like, I'm going to return my scarf for a purse,
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: a bag.
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: My scarf and my wallet.
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: You're going to have to put some money towards that.
- 1:07:03Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I think the scarf and the
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: wallet were probably the same price as that bag.
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: She got a scarf and a wallet? I just saw
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: the scarf.
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: No, she got a scarf and a wallet.
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: So she spent the same. On each person.
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: But she just didn't get them all bags.
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: Carmella is very nice. I'm sorry. I like Carmella.
- 1:07:27Speaker 2: Carmella, my birthday is July 1st.
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: You'll be getting a bag. A Dior bag. Dior is
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: happy when they see her coming. But, you know, that's
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: like thoughtful. Yeah, I thought it was.
- 1:07:39Speaker 2: And of course, Vicky has a reason to like. I'm like, also,
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: Vicky couldn't remember your name last episode.
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: That's what she remembered her name when she got the gift.
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: But you know, then there's Shannon like tearing up over
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: the gift. Like, Oh, that's so nice.
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: I know, but she might've not been tearing up. She
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: may have just been recovering from her anaphylactic shock.
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: No, she was tearing up.
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: I know she was.
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: You said the shock was the anaphylactic thing was fake.
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: So no, no, you told me I wasn't.
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: So I believe you.
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: I don't think it was. And, but then again, she's fragile. So,
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: I think it was very nice. And I think that, um,
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: I want, I don't know if this is Shannon or
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: if this is Shannon now, but I, I'd like to
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: see a mix of an old Shannon and the Shannon now.
- 1:08:29Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too. But I thought all in all
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: this episode gave us exactly what it needed to give us.
- 1:08:35Speaker 2: We needed this. Thank you, Tamara.
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: Tamara grudge. You fixing you.
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: Tamara grudge. You did it again.
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: Slamming body. I'll give it to her. No wonder why.
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: And he's not going nowhere. Treat him like shit. Be
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: a bitch. Don't have sex if you don't want to.
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: The guy ain't leaving. He ain't leaving.
- 1:08:58Speaker 2: Well, I love this episode.
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: Jade.
- 1:09:00Speaker 2: We laughed a lot.
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: It was so fun. It's always fun when I see you.
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: I know.
- 1:09:04Speaker 2: It's always fun. But you guys make sure that you
- 1:09:07Speaker 2: keep tuning in and you leave us comments.
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: Yeah, let us know what you want. What do you
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: think of us? What do you think of what we said?
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: Do you agree with us?
- 1:09:16Speaker 2: Yeah. And who's right?
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: Me or Dolores? Dolores. About what? Anything. Who's right about
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: Shannon's anaphylactic shock? Who thinks it's fake, Tati? I think
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: it's real. Whose side are you on?
- 1:09:32Speaker 2: Well, we'll just....
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 1:09:34Speaker 2: We'll see. I think it was real-ish.
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: All right. We'll find out. All right.
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: Well, thanks, guys, for tuning in for another episode of
- 1:09:41Speaker 2: Two Teas in a Pod. We will be back next
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: week to discuss more Real Housewives of Orange County.
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: See you soon.