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MLB job title inflation, Cubs option Matt Shaw, Soderstrom = HIM, Marlins catchers not calling pitches · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Uh, so you just personalize and say to whoever great
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  Speaker 1: playing against you, best wishes, blah blah blah. At this
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  Speaker 1: card convention in Cleveland was one of my bats that
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  Speaker 1: I had signed to Hector Santiago the pitcher.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, we've got Jason Kipness day today.
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  Speaker 3: We do, Yeah, we do. Good to see you boys,
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  Speaker 3: you too, you too.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, happy first few weeks of the season. Actually, happy
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  Speaker 2: Spencer Strider Day to those who celebrate. I was on
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  Speaker 2: Braves Radio this morning, and you can't come back soon enough.
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  Speaker 2: And also if you like watching Swing and Miss and
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  Speaker 2: maybe Kip, if you like watching a guy that you
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  Speaker 2: are happy to not be facing in your life, Uh.
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  Speaker 1: That's that would only be a name I would not
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  Speaker 1: look forward to seeing. He's a he's done and he's
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  Speaker 1: good for the game. So I'm happy to have him back.
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  Speaker 4: Me too. Yeah, so he'll start today for the I
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  Speaker 4: need him.
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  Speaker 5: They do, right, they They they need Strider sale to
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  Speaker 5: get going. Schwellenbach got walked around a little bit last night.
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  Speaker 3: They need offense. Well, when's he coming back?
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  Speaker 4: I think still?
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  Speaker 5: But just a I mean, Riley's had a couple of
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  Speaker 5: nice games, but just it hasn't been the Braves offense,
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  Speaker 5: we've come to expect he's inconsistent.
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  Speaker 3: So far has been good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Ozun has been really good.
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  Speaker 6: Man.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy for a team that, you know, almost cut
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  Speaker 2: him and he couldn't hit a couple what was that
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  Speaker 2: two years ago in April he was like the worst
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  Speaker 2: hitter in baseball and they kept him and he saves
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  Speaker 2: them often in the lineup.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I was just gonna say the Braves.
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  Speaker 1: Braves deserve some credit for sticking by him and threw
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of things, and I think they've reaped the
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  Speaker 1: benefits over the last year and a half. I mean
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  Speaker 1: for longer than that, because he's been with them and
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff. But many teams probably would have abandoned
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  Speaker 1: ship on him at numerous points, and they stuck by him,
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  Speaker 1: and they deserve some of the credit here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I would have. I would have abandoned ship.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of people would have. They that's one of
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  Speaker 5: the big arguments among fans is him mm hmm.
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  Speaker 4: Well, because it's not just I mean, it's mostly off
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  Speaker 4: the field.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, people love they love that, but he's had bad
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  Speaker 2: issues off the field.
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  Speaker 4: There's no doubt. We don't condone that.
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  Speaker 2: No, Well, one more thing before we start, because I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if we'll mention this anywhere else. Does anyone
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  Speaker 2: know who the home run leader in Major League Baseball?
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  Speaker 3: The guy hit two against the White.
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  Speaker 4: Tyler Soderstrom has eight homers.
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  Speaker 3: Hit two, three run Jimmy's yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's on fire his home runs. And we mentioned
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  Speaker 2: it the other day. But it's Soderstrom, it's Brent Rooker,
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  Speaker 2: and it's Nick Kurtz coming soon for the A's and
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  Speaker 2: they're all bat guys.
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  Speaker 4: There's only one to watch. They're all bat first players.
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  Speaker 2: Kit Rooker played the outfields the other day for the
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  Speaker 2: first time in a year.
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  Speaker 4: He also had an injury. It's some offseasons surgery.
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  Speaker 2: But he's definitely, you know, not usually grading as a
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  Speaker 2: great outfielder, much more of a hitter. Soderstrom and Kurts
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  Speaker 2: both our first base slash DH guys. I mean, those
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  Speaker 2: those will potentially be their three best hitters, maybe them
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  Speaker 2: plus plus Butler, and obviously Young's got his own or
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  Speaker 2: Wilson sorry guys, his own spot. But I mean, you've
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  Speaker 2: got three hitters that absolutely will deserve to be in
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  Speaker 2: the lineup, and ideally you have them mostly at DH
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  Speaker 2: you got.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you got three guys testing the theory
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  Speaker 1: that if you can hit, they'll find a place for you.
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  Speaker 1: They're they're trying, they're finding places for but that they're
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  Speaker 1: proven the theory is true. If you can hit, the
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  Speaker 1: team's gonna find somewhere to stick you, just to get
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  Speaker 1: that bat in the lineup.
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  Speaker 3: And they're doing it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they always say.
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  Speaker 3: If you not only will they find you, they'll find
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  Speaker 3: a place for you.
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  Speaker 5: They'll they'll give up some Now listen, that's why some
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  Speaker 5: guys war is not very high and that's why wars
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  Speaker 5: are very flawed statistic is some dude's values in their back.
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
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  Speaker 5: They don't play defense. I can't play defense. Marcelo's in
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  Speaker 5: a Billy Butler, a guy like that. David Ortiz, his
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  Speaker 5: war wasn't great yet, but you know what he did.
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  Speaker 5: He's a lot better than ninety nine point nine percent
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  Speaker 5: of the dhs in baseball. So that's why he's in
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  Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame, right, I Mean, they're dudes that
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  Speaker 5: just can't that are very good defensively, but they can hit,
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  Speaker 5: and no find a place for you.
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  Speaker 3: If you're good enough hitter, especially in the New World
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  Speaker 3: with the DHL in every league. Yeah, it's warm and
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  Speaker 3: second metal too.
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  Speaker 4: Right now, it's gonna get way warmer.
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  Speaker 3: It's one hundred and twenty degrees and the ball is
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  Speaker 3: really funny.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you bring it's bring your instead of bring your
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  Speaker 2: pups to the park, you bring your eggs and you
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  Speaker 2: just crack them anywhere and then you can just make them,
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  Speaker 2: you know, on the concourse, on the grass, turf, anywhere.
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  Speaker 3: Listen.
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  Speaker 5: The hottest place on Earth back in the day was
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  Speaker 5: like Kansas City Saint Louis. Like people were like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: Texas has gotta be hot. I'm like, no, Kansas City,
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  Speaker 5: Saint Louis in August, late July August when it those
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  Speaker 5: are just especially the old Bush Stadium, it was just
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  Speaker 5: a bowl like Philly, the old Philly, the vet on
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  Speaker 5: the turf. That was the hottest game I think I
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  Speaker 5: ever played in my life. I thought, Matt Lee Crow
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  Speaker 5: is gonna have a heat exhaustion in the middle, like
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  Speaker 5: it was bad. And when you touch the turf it's
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  Speaker 5: you can see the steam rady like I don't know
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  Speaker 5: if Kip ever played on like the old turf, like
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  Speaker 5: the old old nothing, the old not the new stuff like.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw Baltimore in there too, and in August.
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  Speaker 1: Uh and obviously the old Texas won too.
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  Speaker 3: Those guys.
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  Speaker 1: Those games, there's like my hands would get like I
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  Speaker 1: would probably go through a pair of batting gloves through
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  Speaker 1: each at bat just because I'd sweat through them third
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  Speaker 1: so much during won at bat.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, there were certain places where I had to have
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  Speaker 5: a rosin bag in my back pocket. Yeah, as a cutcher,
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  Speaker 5: I would keep a rosin bag because my hand would
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  Speaker 5: get so wet from how sweaty I was from just
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  Speaker 5: because I wore wrist wraps so they kind of held
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  Speaker 5: the sweat off my hand as much as they could.
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  Speaker 5: And then I used to have to have a little
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  Speaker 5: rosin bag in my back pocket and I would grab
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  Speaker 5: it and try to make my hand dry because there
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  Speaker 5: were times where my hand was like I'm like this
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  Speaker 5: is never gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Work, and you can't go into the mound every pitch
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  Speaker 3: and get into rowsin. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So no, there's some hot places. Sacramento is gonna be
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  Speaker 5: one of them. I can't wait to see that one.
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  Speaker 2: Well, just to clarify though, on Sacramento, they are going
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  Speaker 2: to have the turf, then there was complaints. So now
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  Speaker 2: they are rolling with the grass right now, as.
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  Speaker 5: There's been a lot of complaints in West Sacramento for
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  Speaker 5: the Oakland Athletic.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they were complaints leading up. They were they
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  Speaker 2: were originally going to do that turf that they had there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and then I mean there were multiple but I would
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  Speaker 2: assume that the players complaining probably took the cake where
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  Speaker 2: they're like, this isn't going to work, and I think
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  Speaker 2: the league was concerned about how it's going to get
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  Speaker 2: so beat up on the grass there with more action.
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  Speaker 5: They're playing one hundred and sixty games or something crazy
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  Speaker 5: eighty one for the A's and what's seventy for the
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  Speaker 5: minor league team, So it's one hundred and fifty games
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  Speaker 5: are going to play there.
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  Speaker 3: It's a lot of damn games.
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  Speaker 1: That's nice of the for the Triple A team to
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  Speaker 1: be able to have that major league kind of ground
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  Speaker 1: screw on it all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Now this year. Here's here's one thing I know one
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  Speaker 3: has answered me.
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  Speaker 5: When when the A's move out, does the minor league
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  Speaker 5: team the Triple A team get to move into the
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  Speaker 5: big league clubhouse or do they have a separate clubhouse.
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  Speaker 5: It's minor league only. Does anyone know the answer that question,
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  Speaker 5: because I haven't heard that part yet.
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  Speaker 3: I would hope they'd get to move into it. If
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  Speaker 3: they put in the money.
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  Speaker 5: Then you got to move all the A stuff out.
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  Speaker 5: See that's so if I'm a player on the a's,
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  Speaker 5: I'm like my locker, I got it set up, you
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  Speaker 5: know I was. You get your locker set and you
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  Speaker 5: kind of have everything in a certain place, an all of
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  Speaker 5: a sudden they're gonna have to move it out and
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  Speaker 5: then move it up another guy into your like that
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  Speaker 5: would suck.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's two floors, So don't they have it set up?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, that's my question. I don't know. I've
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  Speaker 3: never been there.
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  Speaker 4: We got to ask.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get one of the guys on pretty soon and
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  Speaker 2: we can ask him what the setups like, because we
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  Speaker 2: haven't had anyone on since they started playing there from
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  Speaker 2: the A side, have we I.
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  Speaker 5: Don't think sinks no, because we were at the age
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  Speaker 5: of the last day of spring training.
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  Speaker 4: Right, So we'll bother them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we like to give everybody a little break and
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  Speaker 2: then we'll start hitting up.
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  Speaker 2: my immediate guest list.
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  Speaker 4: Shaw News. Let's charge.
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  Speaker 2: Charge nice win for the Cubs, by the way, riding
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  Speaker 2: showta Imanaga over the Padres.
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  Speaker 4: Those are two good looking teams right now.
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  Speaker 2: But before the game, our Patrick Mooney from Northside Territory
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  Speaker 2: and the Athletic said they're demoting Matt Shaw. They're calling
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  Speaker 2: up relievers Luke Little and Daniel Plentia. Also, Dal Bruhan
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  Speaker 2: has been activated. Nate Pearson was also optioned, and Eli
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  Speaker 2: morganho had been struggling, is put on the injured lists.
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  Speaker 2: Let's start with the headliner here, Matt Shaw, rookie debut
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  Speaker 2: out in Tokyo. This is the guy to answer the
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  Speaker 2: bell at third base for a team that made an
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  Speaker 2: offer for Alex Bregman but came up short.
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  Speaker 3: Kip.
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  Speaker 2: They gave him sixteen games. He wasn't hitting. His defense
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  Speaker 2: actually was pretty good and it was better than most
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  Speaker 2: people thought it would be from the jump.
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  Speaker 4: What do you think of this decision?
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  Speaker 1: This is this is his first time up right, this
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  Speaker 1: was his first time, first chance in the big leagues.
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  Speaker 1: It's listen, there's a lot of guys. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: people realize the jump that it is from Triple A
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  Speaker 1: to the big leagues. It's it's almost a different game
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  Speaker 1: in the sense of the speed, the skill that everything
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  Speaker 1: that goes into it, and the just everything. Listen, this
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  Speaker 1: guy's gonna be a good player. And sometimes it just
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  Speaker 1: takes some times. You look at some of the best
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  Speaker 1: in the game that people forget. Mike Trout was sent down.
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  Speaker 1: I believe Jose Ramirez was sent back down. Sometimes it
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  Speaker 1: just takes that little it doesn't work out the first time,
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  Speaker 1: and they go back, refine their approach or fix some
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  Speaker 1: some loop that they got and realize that they're able
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  Speaker 1: to take that breath now and reassess and come back,
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  Speaker 1: and then they kind of start to fill it out.
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  Speaker 3: But uh, it does.
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  Speaker 1: It just doesn't happen for everybody right away. So it's
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  Speaker 1: not it's he's still a good player. The defense is there,
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  Speaker 1: the bats coming to bat, the defense is still It's
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  Speaker 1: a ground ball, whether it's in Triple A or or
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  Speaker 1: the big leagues, You're gonna be fine with that if
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  Speaker 1: you got a good glove. It's the hitting part that
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  Speaker 1: takes almost the more time to get used to. I
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  Speaker 1: think AJ will agree with me on that.
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  Speaker 3: One hundred percent. But here's my things.
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  Speaker 5: I said it, he's got such a funky swing and
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  Speaker 5: such so much movement and so weird. I said this
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  Speaker 5: after the Japan's and I was like, well, is this
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  Speaker 5: guy do you gonna be able to hit? And we've
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  Speaker 5: asked our Cubs guys, they're like, oh, he's always hitting
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  Speaker 5: Triple A, sitting a. He'm always sitting in college. There's
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  Speaker 5: a jump, like Kip said, and I don't know if
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  Speaker 5: there's ever been a bigger jump than ever from Triple
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  Speaker 5: A to the big leagues with velocity, stuff, all that stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Because everyone has good stuff now they're in the big leagues.
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  Speaker 5: They're not in Triple A.
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  Speaker 7: Goo.
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  Speaker 5: There used to be a lot of dudes in Triple
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  Speaker 5: A that were that were like six year free agents.
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  Speaker 5: The thirty to thirty two year old guy that was
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  Speaker 5: hanging around, but he was making twenty five thirty grand
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  Speaker 5: a month like which was a good salary back in
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  Speaker 5: the day for Triple A and they were hoping to
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  Speaker 5: get a month here, a month there. But they were
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  Speaker 5: still really good and they would flip two ozer breaking
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  Speaker 5: balls in. But now the guys in the big leagues
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  Speaker 5: are all like ninety five ninety five, one hundred, one
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  Speaker 5: hundred work.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I haven't been in Triple A, but I've heard there's
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  Speaker 5: just a difference in the play right, So ask the
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  Speaker 5: question is how did that get him to be able
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  Speaker 5: to hit? Because he has to be able to hit.
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  Speaker 5: Defense is great, but the Cubs need him to hit
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  Speaker 5: because he was brought on this team to be their
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  Speaker 5: third basement and to hit, not to play third.
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  Speaker 4: Should he work on his growing pains in the big league?
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  Speaker 4: Some fans on that.
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  Speaker 3: Team that's competing, okay, not on a team that's competing.
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  Speaker 5: If you're on the White Sox, let them figure it
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  Speaker 5: out right, make adjustments there. But when you're on the Cubs,
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  Speaker 5: they're trying to win and they're expected to win this division,
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  Speaker 5: you can't allow.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, MATCHA got off the bat. We've all
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  Speaker 3: been there. I mean, KiB, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I got sent down numerous times I don't know about you,
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  Speaker 5: but I got sent down. I mean, there's a million
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  Speaker 5: guys I know they got sent down, so it's not like,
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  Speaker 5: oh no, he got sent down. So you know, Alex
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  Speaker 5: Gordon is a perfect example. You can name a bunch
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  Speaker 5: of guys. It all got sent down. You get up there,
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  Speaker 5: you're like, oh wow, this is a lot hard than
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  Speaker 5: I thought. I got to go make adjustments and you
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  Speaker 5: come up.
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  Speaker 3: You try again. If it doesn't work, go back and
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  Speaker 3: go out and down a couple of times.
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  Speaker 4: M hm.
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  Speaker 2: He was one seventy two average, two ninety four on
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  Speaker 2: base two forty one slug. That's a five thirty five ops.
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  Speaker 2: I always try to tell people. Also, just check out
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  Speaker 2: a stat cast page because it's a good idea.
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  Speaker 4: It's all blue metrics. Yeah, everything on batting is.
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  Speaker 2: Blue, except for walk percentage is pretty high up at
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  Speaker 2: fourteen point seven percent.
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  Speaker 4: So at least he's taken a few walks. Good.
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  Speaker 2: But everything else is really blue, including even average exit velocity,
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  Speaker 2: which you know obviously looked at pretty importantly.
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  Speaker 4: Eighty two point seven mile an hour.
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  Speaker 2: Average exit velocity is two percentile, hard hit percentage fourth percentile,
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  Speaker 2: So stuff like that is what they're looking for even
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  Speaker 2: for me fielding, Like you know, I think when I've
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  Speaker 2: watched him, I'm like, oh, okay, like making most of
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  Speaker 2: the place. His range right now outs above average is
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  Speaker 2: minus two. That's fourth percentile. So some people might call
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  Speaker 2: that out because I mentioned it earlier. They've even said
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  Speaker 2: like the defense has been better than they thought. But technically,
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  Speaker 2: metrics wise, it's not.
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  Speaker 3: Like he's not covering a lot of ground.
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not covering a lot of ground.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: And it's not like they're looking at him going wow,
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: this is a plus for us at least he's been
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: a star on dye. It's more like, oh, he's better
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: than we thought that.
• 13:50
  Speaker 5: It wasn't screwed it up right, man, Whenever when you
• 13:52
  Speaker 5: came up where I was like, man, I just don't
• 13:54
  Speaker 5: want to screw up on defense.
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: I'll figure out hitting. Just don't screw it up.
• 13:57
  Speaker 5: Right. You were like, all right, let me just catch
• 13:58
  Speaker 5: your grounders to me, and right I was like, I
• 14:03
  Speaker 5: was like, let me just catch the ball and when
• 14:05
  Speaker 5: someone steals thrown to the center field and trying to
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: catch the pop ups and just hide back there and
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: then oh I can hit though, I'll figure out hit
• 14:13
  Speaker 5: inside of it.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: That was my my motto my entire career on defense.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: Don't don't don't be the weak link. Just make the
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: plays that you can. Don't try to do anything too
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: special there.
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: You go make the routine plays.
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: That's that should be your baseline as any big leaguer,
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: by the way, is making every routine play you that
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: should be the bare minimum to be a big league defender.
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: The difference is now that the defensive metrics will still
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: punish you for that.
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: That's see, That's why.
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: There's things that I mean, listen, I know there's people
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: out there that are way smarter than me, but there's
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: there's metrics.
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know who counts these metrics.
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: Because I can look at a guy and be like,
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: that guy's pretty good, and then his metrics are pretty good.
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: And then there's guys I'm like, that guy's pretty good,
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: but his metrics aren't that good. And you're like, but
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: he gets hits and he makes all the routine plays,
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: and you count. Like as a if I was a
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: big league manager and I had nine guys that I
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: knew I could count on the ball sytem, they're gonna
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: catch it, make it out. I'll take my chances more
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: times than not, because we're gonna make every routine play. Now,
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: every once in a while, you know, you might make
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: a great play. But if I got nine guys that
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: I know, we're gonna make every route. If there's a
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: three hopper hit to Jason Kipnis, he's gonna field it,
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: he's gonna flip it to first, and we're gonna get
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: it out.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: My pitcher's got to have confidence. I'm sorry.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: I think it's why there's some sloppier play sometimes now, too,
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: Kip because errors used to be basically the holy grail, like, oh,
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: how many errors does this infielder have?
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Like the second baseman? This shorts up this third basement.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: I mean most front offices they look at that, but
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: they're mostly looking at the defensive metrics that are a
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: deeper dive in their mind. And it's like, but wait,
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: does he make the places he's supposed to make, because
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: if he's screwing up a lot, those are the ones
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: that really burn in games.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna circle back to the conversation we already just
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: had about the Oakland guys. I think it's become such
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: an offensive minded game that you're putting players out there
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: who aren't necessarily defenders, who aren't assarily defensive minded players,
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: or aren't complete players that their bats are so good
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: you just find a position for them. So there's gonna
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: be players out there on defense who you're gonna have
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: to be okay that their metrics just aren't up to
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: par up to exactly what you want to be because
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: you're getting the bat out of them. And I'm wondering
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: that kind of also put like tails off into this
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: conversation with scouting. The scouting how much did they use
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: the sabermetrics or something when they're scouting or are they
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: still guys just in the seats using the eye test
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: and going off of that before they send them the
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: report on up to the sabermetrics guys to look at.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Then the thing is is guys that have more range
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: usually make more errors. It's like I use.
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: Because you get some more balls and you try more
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: crazy stuff, like I paulkin Erko. If you hit it
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: within his two foot radius, there he can move, you
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: were out.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: You're all right.
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: But his range factor was zero. If you threw it
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: to him and he had to pick it, he picked
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: it most nine the time. But if you hit it
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: without outside that two foot radius, it was probably gonna
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: get buy him. But if you hit it where he
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: could catch it, you were out right.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: But then you have a guy I'm trying to think
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: of somebody that's super I don't know, super flashy guy
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: like we are David Xton, right, he can't his rage
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: wasn't huge.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: But you hit it in his area, you were out right.
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: And then there's some other short stops that are way
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: more flashy and can do a lot more things.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: They'll miss the one right too, like feet. Yeah, there
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: you go.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: At least probably a good example of that. I mean, man,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: he'll make some ridiculous plays, but.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Then the two hopper right too, and he clanks or
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: throws it away.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's getting better at that, true, you know,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: I know, but know like yeah, I mean, he's a
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: bit above average right now on his range to start
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: the season. He's got a sick arm too, that can
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: make up for some of that stuff. So but I
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: know what you're saying, now, what would a fan rather watch?
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Depends depends on how many yours.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it depends depends on the threshold.
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: Again, Matt y'all's not there for his defense. They were
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: just opening his defense would be average, which has been.
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: He was there because he can hit, and that's why
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: they were like, we need this guy's with third basement
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: and he hasn't done that, or send him down to
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: make some adjustments. I mean, keV, I don't know if
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: you've seen this dude hit, but he he's like super
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: closed and has like a super like and he like
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: has his front toe way clothes. He's got a big
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: leg kick that kind of swings open. There's a lot
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: going on. That's a lot to time up of a
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: big lead hitter.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: He had a weird start too. I mean, I'm not
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: to just completely defend him on everything. Sometimes you do
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: just got to hit.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: But like you had the whole Japan's series, then you
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: had to, Like, he just had a bunch of stuff
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: to work with on this early on though, So I think, listen,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: he's gonna catch his breath down there. He's got the
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: right mindset hopefully where it's not the end of the
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: world and he'll be back up here in due time.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: It's gonna happen. Yeah. Yeah.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Lastly, it shows the Cubs front office this year is
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: not messing around and it's not just that move, the
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: other moves too, Like they're making a lot.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Well, Pearson was supposed to be a big piece.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Eli Morgan they traded for from some KI guardians
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: and he's hurt il So they're trying to they're trying
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: to shake it up because they're like, we're not doing
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: good enough.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: I mean they're still fine.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: First they need to make the playoffs this year though,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: so they're like, we need to win at the margins
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: right now. We have a bullpen problem evenit that, you know,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: with a high leverage guy who he thought he's going down,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: we have a back end of the bullpen guy that
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: he's going down right now. If they've got replacements, which
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: they do, like Luke Little I think was pitching well.
• 19:07
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• 19:10
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  Speaker 2: the Marlins radio broadcast posted by fish on First across
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  Speaker 2: the Marlins minor league system. This season, every pitch is
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: being called from the dugout quote. They're taking that out
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: of the catcher's hands. It's giving the catchers an opportunity
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: to become better offensive players.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: AJ, I can tell from your face how this one's
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: gonna go.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, where do we start with this.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: Every pitch is called in a little leg, every pitch
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: is called in high school, every pitch is calling in college.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: Every this has been the one. This is a divider
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: for catchers. Can you call a game and get the
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: most out of your pitchers? The coach in the dugout
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: does not know what the pitcher has that day.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I am sorry.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: The catcher with the experience that watches his pitcher can
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: tell how it hit or reacts. Sitting over in the dugout,
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: you cannot do that. And this is one of the
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: things Air Kratz said about PitchCom He's like, at some
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: point there's gonna be somebody sitting in the dugout calling
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: the pitches into the catcher's ear. And I have a
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: problem with this because it takes out the best part
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: of a catcher for a lot of people, and that
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: is being able to get your pitcher through extra innings
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: because you watch them and you know how, like especially starters,
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: we can get them deeper because we know what they have.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: And oh, Jason Kittmus is coming up. It's a Greg
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Maddock story.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: I threw Jeff Bagwell a fastball one time, just because
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: I knew later on I was gonna have to face him,
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: and he think he's getting a fastball, and.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: I punched him out changeups. Right.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: There are times where I was catching and you can't
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: always run to a weakness. In the first inning, you say,
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: all right, well there's two outs, nobody's on. We have
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: Jason Kittmus coming up. Maybe we throw them that heater away.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: He can get his single on so later in the
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: game we can go to the breaking ball.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: These are parts of the game that you can't take away.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: And one of the worst parts is why are we
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: calling these guys are professional baseball players. They should have
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: to study. That's one of the hardest parts about being
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: a catcher is not only the physical part. People say, oh,
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: you had to be so tired. I wasn't physically tired.
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: I was mentally worn out because you're in every pitch.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: As soon as you take a pitch off, guess while
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: you're chasing it to the backstop and everyone's like, what
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: the hell's wrong with that Prazinski guy?
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: He sucks?
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: Right, you have to be locked in on every pitch,
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: on everything that's happening your pitcher, what he looks like,
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: what he has that day, because some days he might
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: have a great fastball, next day he might have a
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: good slider.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: One day them I have nothing to get him through
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: six innings and you win and you go home.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: You're like, damn, I did an amazing job today because
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: I got my starter through six innings and he didn't
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: have crap.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: So I think this is awful. It's like the when
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: they tried to do the practice squad thing, Like this
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: is just awful.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: They're trying to reinvent the game, but they're reinventing.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: It the wrong way. I'm not a fan.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I don't have to say much that AJ didn't say,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: but if they're not doing it up top either, Now,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: this catcher doesn't have the experience from doing it much
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: if he's just been getting the pitches called for him.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Now he's going up to the big leagues without that
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: that experience of calling games or the experience of what
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: that pitcher who might progress with him has too. So
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: you're you're you're having him kind of reset when he
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: gets to the big leagues and he's now behind the
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: ball instead of ahead of the curve of knowing how
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: to call a game or with this certain pitcher.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: So I don't I'm not a big fan of it.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: And by the way, as far as affecting him, his
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: offense has one has nothing to do with the other one.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry when by the time you get to you
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: learn in the minor leagues how to separate the two,
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: so when you get to the big leagues you can
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: do it. And the ones that can do it are
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: the ones that work out. The ones who can are
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: the ones that struggle on one side.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Or the other.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: So when they get called up to the show, they're
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: gonna have no idea how to handle it exactly.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Nothing makes no sense right now.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: You're I mean, maybe you think that's all gonna happen
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: in the future, right now you're not calling pitches from
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: the dugout, No, not pitch pitch.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: They're sure. I don't think they'll ever allow that.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: You don't.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: I mean they have the wristbands now, which pretty much
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: tells him what to call anyways. But if they start
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: doing that, there's something that we need to reevalue. What
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: we're doing is baseball doing it in high school high schools. Fine,
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: I get high school like very fortunate. My son is
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: called every pitch of his entire high school career. The
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: coaches he's out and said, all right, you do it.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: If you make a mistake, we'll talk about it. He's
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: made mistakes. I've tied some conversations, but you learn. And
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: now he's like, oh, and I watched the game again.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: But it's Don Cooper, who was our pitching coach. We
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: want two thousand and five, long time pitching coach. He
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: used to look at me and go, you know, why'd
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: you call this pitch in this situation? I'm like, Coop,
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: this isn't this isn't PlayStation. I can't hit X and
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: make it go here and Y and Z and da
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: da da da, I go if you want to call
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: the games here, fastball, curveball, slider, change up and he's like,
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: I don't want that pressure on me.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: I'm like exactly, then shut the hell up right, like.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is what makes the catcher a quarterback. Yes,
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: I'm all for it. Yeah, I don't think they should
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: do it.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Plus what if your pitcher shake and then you're on
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: a pitch clock you don't run out of time.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: This sounds like a mess. Yeah, taking that away from
• 25:07
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• 26:59
  Speaker 2: a little.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Joke with this.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah he didn't get ejected either, which I thought was
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: going to be a thing, not yet here it is.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: We got video of it. Pitch is called a strike,
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: it was not, and he tapped and looked at him.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: They looked like the ump might have said something back, like, oh,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: he said, don't tap your helmet.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Apparently he did, and.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: He's like time out and he won helmet. I would
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: have been like, I'm just adjusting it. There's something wrong.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know something I would have done. I for
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: sure would have done that too, probably mm hmmm.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: They all know it's coming too. I mean, it's happening
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: next year. But that was the night yes after J. T.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Real Newto got worked on a called strike that at
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: the time was a pivotal time in the game.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: It's surprised the Empire said something. They have such thick skin.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: We're diving into more articles this year.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: So there's one in The Athletic about quality control, Coach,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Pitching Strategist, and many more titles that have been created
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: in baseball and the topic of title inflation. Dennis lan
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Zach Maizell, and zam Blum all working on it, and
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: there were some jokes about the show the office in there.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: But things have really changed in your classic six person
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: coaching staff with the bench coach, hitting coach, pitching coach,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: first base, third base ballpen, whatever is gone.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: I don't think any team just has that. But then
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: some of the titles that.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: You get these days, strategistic performance and data integration with
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: the Marlins, about the Red Sox with a game planning
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: and run prevention coach. You've got your Major League field coordinator,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: director of defense based running and strategy, or someone with
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: that role with the Guardians.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: So, Kip, what do you think of all these fancy
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: schmancy titles.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're not useful, and I'm not saying
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: they don't have a purpose. It just seems like you're
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: adding a middleman to some stuff that should already have
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: been done or it can be checked off by the
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: group as a whole, the team as a whole, or
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: the staff as a whole. So but I'm not saying
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: that there isn't a usage for them by any means.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I think it's just you're you're adding a job for someone.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know thel what.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: They do because they weren't there when we played, so
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: you can describe them to me some more. But it
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: just seems like it's stuff that's whether it's common sense
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: or to the analytical side, the strategist stuff that could
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: be just front office stuff that maybe is useful, but
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: otherwise it seems like stuff that should already be if
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: you have a high standard or a good locker room,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: should already be taken care of.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Aj It is time for people to get some new clubs,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: and to do that, they need to go to their
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: local PXG for a fitting, right.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: No doubt.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: I was there today. I've been there before. Last time
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: I was there, they gave me this killer gap weed.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: You look at that sweet spot, Scott, it is worn out.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: That is right in the sweet spot right there. So
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: I went and got new clubs today, new irons. More importantly,
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: I got this bad boy. I got me a new putter.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: This is my old putter.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: It's on order.
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: Yes, that's my putter cover PXG Mustang putter. Now I'm
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: going to the Allen putter. They talked me into it
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: because I was draining some putts today. Bob, the guy
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: who helped me out, he helped me with my irons.
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: He got them ted up perfectly. But then we went
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: to the putt and Green. I was draining them putts
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: because that's the most important part of golf.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: PXG fittings are fun.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Schedule you're fitting today as you can hear from AJ
• 30:24
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• 30:26
  Speaker 2: percent on your entire order.
• 30:28
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• 30:32
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• 30:34
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• 30:39
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• 30:42
  Speaker 5: It's just more voices in the player's ear right, more things,
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: and more voices as the manager, more voices to talk about.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: I mean, god forbid, I always laugh about this. I
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: don't know how it was when you were in the
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: minor league, Skip, but we had a manager, a pitching coach,
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: a hitting coach, and a trainer and that was it.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: That was it, man, A man, you're a pitching coach,
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: a hitting coach, and a trainer. Now that was the
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: whole staff.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: And we're like, man, how did we ever survive?
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Don't you think it's better now? I mean, I mean
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: it's better, but now they have.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: Like I mean, in a ball they have like twelve
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: different coaches, you know, a mental coach of a first base,
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: hitting coach assistant, pitching coach assistant it right, which is great,
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: it's more jobs in baseball, but also, I mean how many?
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: And then this this all kind of started with the Giants,
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: didn't it with with Gabe Kapler having a lot of coaches,
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: and then other teams have taken off, and like, I
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: think it's what Kip said, it's just a way to
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: give more people job. Oh, I have a friend, he
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: needs a job. Let's give him Offensive coordinator Joe Wake.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: What does that even mean?
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: You ask him and they're like, well, just I'm in
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: meetings and I give my advice here and there, and
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: it's just another voice to have around. And you know,
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: my favorite is this one game planning and run prevention coach.
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: Wasn't that the name of the game is run prevent?
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: And I think I might be Veritech, but isn't run
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: prevention coach? Like, isn't that your whole job is to
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: prevent them from scoring runs if you're on defense.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: It sounds better than just you know, assistant or something
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: like yeah it's fancy time, Yeah, it's fancy titles. But right,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: if you're creating jobs, And I do remember last year
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: a great article late in the season from Katie Wu
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: for The Athletic who also is the host of our
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Cardinals show Cardinal Territory, and she touched on how the
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Cardinals had, you know, kind of downsized some of their
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: instructional coaching and some of the development around the players
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: that they had, and that they were going to ramp
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: that back up, which they've been doing.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: So.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I do want to make sure that if we're picking
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: one side of the line or the other, we clarify
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: everyone on your own. But for me, I would rather
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: have twelve coaches in the miners and with a certain
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: team than four. You know, I do think one person
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: connecting with one player on one note can be helpful
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: as long as there's not information overload. But having more voices,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: like AJ said, generally is a good thing.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Right, you're saying having more voices is generally a good thing.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know there's a line, but I'm saying, like
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: you know, I just want to make sure we clarify
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: that we shouldn't go back to having just four or five,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: six coaches or whatever.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: Well, the only problem is is sometimes there's too many voices.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: I think Kibble agree me. You can have too many
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: voices in your.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Ear, but can't you as a player, you just tell
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: certain voices not and I know you.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Can't because guys have a hard time because you want
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: to please everybody. Tell them kip.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: Like that's one of the big things that players have
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: to learn is it's your career and you got to
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: do what you do. And sometimes there's there's people that
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: will come up to you and they want to put
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: their stamp.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: On you and you're like nah dog and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: but it goes whoop. Do you have to learn that?
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm. Oh.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I've had there's like three different people that have taken
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: credit for the change of me pointing the bat back,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: and like, I've had other players come up to me
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: and tell me that, like once they're on different teams,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: they're like, oh no, he tells everybody he created that
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: for you.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't even know who this
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: guy is.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: But no, like I said, there is usage for some
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: of these There is absolute, clear, defined usage and it
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: is helpful. But what AJ and I are trying to
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: say is there there could be too many cooks in
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: the kitchen sometimes and sometimes at some point you just
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: have to be like, screw it. I'm going to do
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: it myself or do it my way. If I'm going
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: to go out, I'm going out my way.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: The one thing I heard from teams is that they've
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: significantly expanded their hitting coach plan because some players really
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: connect with a certain person or style, and they're supposed
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: to be okay with saying like he's my guy, right,
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I'm going to work with him more than with this person.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: I know that there's politics involved with that, because certain
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: hitting coaches want to be able to point to the
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: star players and be like I helped him. But do
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: you think that's the right way to do things? AJ
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: is say, have three or four different people in your
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: hitting coach department.
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: A couple of things here. One Hawk Harrison when he
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: was JAM he was way ahead of this because he
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: wanted to have a power hitting coach in a hitting
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: like a base hit hitting coach back when he was GM,
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: Like I don't know in the eighties early eighties of
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: White Sox, he was told no White Sox. When I
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: was at the White Sox, we had a hitting coach,
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: Greg Walker, and then he had he was the first guy.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: He had an asist named Mike Gllinger, and he was awesome,
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: and we all worked with him, and he's still in
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: the organization. Greg Walker leaves, we get a new hitting coach,
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: Jeff Manto. He doesn't want us to work with Gelly,
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: and so Kaneriko and I were like, hey, we want
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: to work with Gelly. We've been working with them for
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: I was there those my eighth year seven years now.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: And he's like, yes, but only you two. And we're like,
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: well what about They're like, no, they work with me.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: You guys get them and you guys can go to him.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: We're like great. Paul and I were like sweet, like
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: to those other dudes, like yeah, that's the guy we want.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: Right so, you know, and now he's you know, he's
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: still in the organization. He's he's been in the organization
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: the whole time. But yeah, egos get involved. Man, Like
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: if you're the main hitting coach and the player goes,
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: I don't want to hit with you, I want to
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: hit with this other dude.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Hitting coaches have egos. They get mad. I mean, it's
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: it's a fact, it's it's Cuban nature.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they do have egos one hundred percent. But I
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: don't mind them having one or two options because there
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: are guys that speak you're a hitting language. There are
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: guys who understand what you're trying to say or what
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: you're trying to do better than maybe the other guy.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: There's also both of them throw VP. There might be
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: a guy I never want to hit in his group
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: or his cage because he just carves me up or
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: it gets me. The one guy makes me feel great
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: going into a game, and one guy has me quite
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: everything because he broke one of my bats in a
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: cage because he jammed me so bad every time. So
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: there's different guys like I understand having options.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: I think I don't mind that so much.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: The thing that comes to mind for me too is
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: then the personal hitting coaches. On top of that.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Do you remember the key Brian Hayes story. It was
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: our first year of FT and we covered it late
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: in the season. I'm looking back now. Hayes was secretly
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: working in August at a private hitting facility in Pittsburgh
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: with Joe Nunneley, former Big leaguer and a double A
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: hitting coach, and he was like, it's my career right,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: and whatever he was getting elsewhere he wasn't liking, and
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: that was his guy and he took off a little
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: bit and they fired, not only at the end of
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: the season.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Wasn't that Like Tom Brady has his own personal trainer
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: and stuff a problem and little things on the outside.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: No offense givet Tom Brady to Cabrian Hayes is a
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: little bit of a agreed.
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: I mean Barry Bonds, Barry Bonds had his own everything.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: I mean, I mean Barry Bond would take VP and
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: he'd go and he's sitting a recliner after VP and
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: he falls asleep, and you have one guy rubbing his head,
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: one guy rubbing his feet while he's sleeping, and the
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: rest of us, you know, coming from BP sweating and
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: he's as a dude rubbing his head, rubbing his feet, right,
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: But then he had his own VP guy like, which
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: is fine.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: He's Barry Bonds.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: He can do whatever you want.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: You can't do that, you know, I mean, yeah, you
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: have to get it clear, I think with.
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: The organization first in order to do these kind of things.
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: But organizations are much more open. Listen, as long as
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: you hit and as long as you perform, we don't.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: Really care what you do.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: No, they want performance, or they should want performance. At
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: the end of the day.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: All right, good topic, it was fun. Any other articles
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: that fans catch and you want us to slice up?
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: Let us know it's a lot.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: It's too much. What do MLB players do with all
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: their stuff? Our friend Bridge Roli puts this together, and
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: a lot of players obviously give stuff out or when
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: they move on to a new team member. The one
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: guy who was criticized, who was bringing the bag into
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: his first day at camp was a magical Yeah, Nick
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Madrigal going to Mets camp literally first day there, and
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: obviously pictures are taking everyone people, where's your Mets up
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: trader or was it Cubs? Probably bag that he was holding.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I'm like, relax, So anyway, Kip, you're up first. You
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: get a lot of free stuff when you're a player.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: What happens to all of it?
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: This kind of premise or this conversation is what led
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: me to do that shoe toss. I would do after
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: each season where I literally it was too much stuff.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: So I at the end of every season, I would
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: clear out my lockers and if I kept maybe one
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: pair of gamers or a few bats to hit for
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: the next offseason or something like that, but everything else
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I didn't have a place for it, and just like
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: it was a turning of the page. So I would
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: hand it out to all the fans at the end
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: of every season, and I would do that. The jerseys
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: I would keep just because I think I would have
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: those for others for trades or to family members or
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: friends and stuff like that, or throughout the off season.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: I'm sure AJ had this too, where it's like you
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: get request or hey, can you send a jersey for us?
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: So now I have it on and I could just
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: send it out to sign it from there, so jersey's
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I would keep. Equipment.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: See yuah, look new equipment the next year. Yeah.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: Well so I as a catcher, I used to get
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: a ton of stuff. I used to give it away
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: to the high school, local high school here in Orlando.
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: There's still people that come up to me and like, dude,
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: I used your gear in high school.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: They're old.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: Now that's cool.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: There's a guy who was a pitcher. He pitched in
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: the Rockies organization. He was a lefty. He went to
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Olympic Gosh, I cannot remember wand Wan tell him I think.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: His name is.
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: I think he's still he's still trying to pitch and
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: He's like, dude, I wore your spikes for like four
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: years because I went up to this high school and
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: was like, here, buddy. When I was a coach, I
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: used to opened the back of my car and I
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: just had box. I'm like, here, you guys will use it,
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: take it. And the one thing I did, though, is
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: I would always because it may be mad, they would
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: the teams would sell the gear, or people would find
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: my stuff like in dumpsters, so I like had to
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: cut my like my chest protectors.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: I would cut him. He cut my name off of them.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: Just because there's people still that come up to me like, man,
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: I got your chest protector. I'm like, it is not
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: and they're like let me see it. And I'm like
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: they'll show me a Nike and I'm like that's not mine,
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: Like how do you know. I'm like, I can give
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: you a million different reasons, right, and so I just
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: think that I used to give it away. I mean
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: the clothing. I usually wore one shirt the whole year,
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: so by the end of the year it smelt gun
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: of bad, so that was in the garbage. I wear
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: the same sliding shorts, the same everything that I could.
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: All I didn't change. A lot of stuff that you
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: just accumulate a lot of T shirts and stuff that
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: people give you, and I would just give it away.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Some of them I still have that that are sentimental stuff.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: There's there's some stuff that I still have from things
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: that happen, but most of it had just I throw
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: it away or just go to give it to, you
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: know I do. I give it to like friends or whatever.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: They love that stuff. Like let's say, like you know,
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: White Sox or Brady. You're like, here, have a whole
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: bag of it, and they're like, oh, this is unbelievable.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I remember Brady Singer.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: His clothing was in a Kansas City Goodwill hours before
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: news broke he was traded to the Reds and then
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: we brought him on the show and he debunked the
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: rumor and was like that was complete coincidence, Like I
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: didn't know. And so he was giving his stuff away,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: and it's like, geez, you're gonna after a guy for
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: giving his stuff to good will.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: You can't get much better than that. Come on. So
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: it was cool.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: I that was on our show. Remember, Yeah, I got
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: two quick stories real quick.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: So like I just went to Cleveland and did like
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: a little signing appearance and all that stuff, and like
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: some of the stuff that I would toss out made
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: its way back through the line, so like we caught
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: this at your shoe toss and want you to resign it.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Another one where I want AJ to get a feel
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: for this. So it was at this card convention which
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: has like just autographed old vintage stuff and everything. AJ,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: have you ever traded it for traded bats with someone
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: or signed a bat for someone on the other side
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: where it happens all the time, or so you just
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: personalize and say to whoever great playing against you, best wishes,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah. At this card convention in Cleveland was
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: one of my bats that I had signed two Hector
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Santiago the picture that literally said two Hectors. So I
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: don't know if he he got rid of it, so
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I have to and I still have his numbers, so
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna call him on this.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: But a bat that I signed to him he sold off,
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: It says to Hector too. Have you ever had that happen? No, No,
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: I have.
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't be super happy. I wouldn't be super Why
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: would somebody else want that? If unless your name is Hector.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying right now.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: They just think it's like a personalized item and a
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: cool collector's item. I guess, but that's why I'm saying
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Hector with this be like what
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: the hell?
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: Bro?
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: But like I've never heard of that happening before or never,
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: so no I am. I mean, I have some jerseys
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: that are signed by to to me. Should I sell
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: them on? Should I sell them to have a good reason?
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know. That's but there was always a thing
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: like I don't know.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: Like I said, I used to cut my stuff up,
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: like I would break bats and I would break them
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: in half, and I would hand them to fans so
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: that the team could itself.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Scott Servis, former Mariners manager, joining us tomorrow. By the way,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: you did remind me of something.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: I gotta look.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: But last I checked Boba Schett and Laddie Junior slugging
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: percentage so far. I know it's only a few, but
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: my home run pick is still Vlad Guerrero off Spencer Strider.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: Okay, go on with it if I'm wrong. If I'm wrong,
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: I'm dying Kip. Oh wait, he already did it. Sorry, oops, sorry.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: Oh you did one of those. I messed up.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: He hit his first one. I told Jay's fans.
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: I went on the radio yesterday in Jayland and said,
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: don't worry, Flad's gonna hit a home run this year.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: They were worried, right, Oh, they were paned. Well, his
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: slugging percentage before today it was three thirty three.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: And again it's hard to hit when you got five
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: hundred million in your pocket.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: True for Bo, he's subed four hundred so far this
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: year too with the slug So you want to see
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: a little more pop out of the boys.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: It's early. It's actually a good sign for Blue Jays
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: fins because they're gonna have some pop. Yeah.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Anyway, we're out of here. Scott Service tomorrow. Kip, good
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: to see you man.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: Kip. By the way, before we go house, how she showed.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: Hey, congratulations Kip on the new restaurant.
• 44:15
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