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- 0:00The Dow to gold ratio is about to break a line.
- 0:03It's only crossed before 19/29/1973 and 2008.
- 0:08The last three times it marked the start of an 18 month
- 0:11recession or worse, a depression.
- 0:14Is 2025 next or have we just entered the crash that rewards
- 0:19those holding hard money? Gold just ripped to fresh all
- 0:23time highs printing above $4200 an ounce and silver punched
- 0:28through 50 bucks. That's it's not inflation go
- 0:31Burr. That's confidence cracking.
- 0:33Markets are now baking in another rate cut this month and
- 0:37cuts don't print trust, they print Bitcoin rocket fuel.
- 0:47Here we go. When this ratio dives, history
- 0:51says capital is running downhill from complex levered paper
- 0:54claims to hard money you can actually hold.
- 0:58And this cycle is obviously weird.
- 1:00Stocks up, gold exploding. That combination is rare.
- 1:04Optimism hedged with fear. Maybe everyone is stuck fighting
- 1:08the last war and they don't realize what's really happening.
- 1:12And the big take away is this. Most people are stuck fighting
- 1:16the last war, right? And in our case, that means most
- 1:19people are expecting a market crash like we had in 2008.
- 1:22That's the last war. Maybe they're looking at 2000 or
- 1:25whichever period that you want to look at, but those were
- 1:28different. Those were deflationary crashes,
- 1:31a housing market crash, a credit bubble crash, a stock market
- 1:35crash. But when these markets crashed,
- 1:38we saw stocks drop right by more than 50%, home prices, they
- 1:41collapsed 30 to 50%. Banks failed, unemployment
- 1:45skyrocketed. That's what happened.
- 1:47And as painful as that was, on the other side of all that, we
- 1:51saw huge growth, right, because the crash was sort of like a
- 1:54reset button after the crash, if you still have cash, you could
- 1:58get back in, right? You could buy that home, you
- 2:00could buy the stocks much cheaper, and then you could ride
- 2:02their recovery back up. It's actually the perfect setup
- 2:05because guess what, if the bubble is in money and
- 2:08treasuries prices don't come down to you, it runs away from
- 2:12cash. Now these companies, they feel
- 2:14safer, right than holding dollars.
- 2:16So people pour money into them as sort of like this pseudo safe
- 2:20haven, right? Then you can look at like other
- 2:22areas like the crypto NFT market, especially like crypto
- 2:25punks, right? People are spending serious
- 2:28money on digital avatars. Like what?
- 2:31Why? Well, the reason is because when
- 2:33the underlying currency feels unsafe, then you're willing to
- 2:37just basically leap into anything that gives some sense
- 2:40of scarcity and value outside of Fiat.
- 2:43And then of course, there's Bitcoin and gold, right?
- 2:46The main beneficiaries of capital flight right now.
- 2:48Today, we just looked at how bitcoins up 185%, right?
- 2:52That's since December of 2023. Gold's up 95%.
- 2:56Now, the fact that these digital and metallic safe havens have
- 2:59outperformed the bulk of traditional assets isn't an
- 3:02accident, right? On chain flows confirm this.
- 3:05The massive inflows into Bitcoin are often predictive of future
- 3:10returns. Listen, when the foundation is
- 3:13the bubble, everything built on top, Stocks, pensions, salaries,
- 3:19they all become unstable. That's why this time can be
- 3:22worse, even if it doesn't look like 2008.
- 3:25Right. It's in the one place that
- 3:26everyone thinks is safe. It's government bonds and in the
- 3:29dollar itself. Now think about it. the US
- 3:32Treasury are supposed to be the safest asset in the world.
- 3:35The dollar. It's the foundation of global
- 3:37trade. But today both are being
- 3:40inflated by trillions of dollars in new debt and endless central
- 3:44bank printing. The US government is borrowing
- 3:46over 2 trillion a year just to stay afloat.
- 3:50And the only buyers that are left are the Fed and passive
- 3:53flows that are forced into Treasuries by regulation.
- 3:56Now, there's a recent report that came out by Amir McCann
- 3:59Research and they put it bluntly.
- 4:01They said, quote, the current bubble is not like 2008, which
- 4:05was a credit bubble. It's a currency and treasury
- 4:08bond bubble. And when the foundation of the
- 4:10entire financial system is the bubble, then everything built on
- 4:14top of it, Stocks, pensions, real estate, even the paycheck
- 4:18becomes unstable. End Quote.
- 4:21This is why I'm saying this crash is going to be worse than
- 4:232008. Here's the nuance nobody wants
- 4:26to hear Gold up while oil crashes isn't classic 70s
- 4:30stagflation. It smells like a dollar funding
- 4:33squeeze in the pipes and engineered insolvency rolling
- 4:37through balance sheets. It's possible tariffs plus tight
- 4:41liquidity can push a deflationary debt spiral even as
- 4:44headline inflation lingers. That's how you get gold moaning
- 4:48with growth wobbly. The historical rhyme here isn't
- 4:52the 70s oil shock, it's the trust shock.
- 4:55We can pull up the chart of gold priced in Bitcoin.
- 4:59This set off an absolute firestorm.
- 5:01So just so we're clear, I like gold.
- 5:04I understand why people own gold.
- 5:05I think of the gold bugs and the Bitcoiners is brothers in arms
- 5:09against the fight against currency debasement.
- 5:11I'm sympathetic to their 'cause I think they're sympathetic to
- 5:14our 'cause I have a lot of friends who own gold.
- 5:17I'm not a gold hater, but I'm also somebody say a math guy.
- 5:22I like looking at the data. And so over the weekend I
- 5:25messaged Phil and I said, hey, Phil, can you can you create a
- 5:28chart of gold priced in Bitcoin? And I knew that the gold bugs
- 5:33were not going to like it, but I thought it was an important
- 5:34contribution to the public conversation.
- 5:37So Phil cooked in the lab made-up chart.
- 5:40I tweeted it and I said gold has been a disastrous investment.
- 5:43I think disastrous investment probably got people a little
- 5:46upset. That's OK, It's true.
- 5:48Priced in Bitcoin, gold is down 84% since January of 2020.
- 5:53So if you compare that the S&P is down 88% priced in Bitcoin
- 5:58since 2020, that's pretty much no difference right now.
- 6:01Gold, yes, in dollar terms is up a lot.
- 6:03It's up 50% this year, but it was pretty much flat through a
- 6:07number of those early years of 2020 till today.
- 6:10And so my point being that gold still has some inflation to it,
- 6:15and Bitcoin is a finite asset. That finite asset, yes, there is
- 6:19this disinflationary supply, but Bitcoin is actually the
- 6:23measurement stick. It's the Bitcoin rate of return.
- 6:25So gold's Bitcoin rate of return is negative by -84% So if you
- 6:30are an investor, has gold done well?
- 6:32Sure. So if you had an apparatus of
- 6:34assets to choose from, you put stocks, bonds, real estate,
- 6:37gold, gold's done very well. But if you then add in Bitcoin,
- 6:40you pretty much didn't need any of the other assets.
- 6:43Bitcoin was the dominant 1. So a lot of people say we'll
- 6:46just buy both. Well, that is kind of like a
- 6:48safe answer, right? It's kind of like, oh, put 1%,
- 6:52put 1%, right? But in reality, the data is
- 6:55overwhelming. Bitcoin destroys gold in terms
- 6:58of a return. If you denominate gold and
- 7:00Bitcoin, it, it loses tons of it's purchasing power.
- 7:02Doesn't mean that you should go and buy only Bitcoin.
- 7:05I understand why people still might want to buy gold, right?
- 7:08There's all kinds of things around draw down protections,
- 7:10all those kind of stuff. But if you are purely looking
- 7:13for which one is going to outperform on a return basis,
- 7:16Bitcoin first gold. It's not even close.
- 7:18Central bank, Sprint to gold, not to get rich.
- 7:22They're they're sprinting because Fiat is dying.
- 7:25I believe that the single biggest issue, if you can
- 7:28correct this one issue, it will have a profound impact on
- 7:30people's lives around the globe, is if you can basically stop the
- 7:33debasement of the currency. If you can stop that, then all
- 7:36of a sudden now what you do is you stop the silent theft and
- 7:39now you allow people to actually keep the economic value that
- 7:41they've worked hard to earn. And so Bitcoin to me is the
- 7:45solution to that problem. There's kind of this, this
- 7:47heuristic of people have been complaining about this for
- 7:50decades, centuries, right? If you go back through all these
- 7:53societies, Bitcoin is the first technology solution to the
- 7:55problem. And so I think that that is a
- 7:57very profound solution that is going to have an impact that we
- 8:01quite don't understand yet, frankly, right?
- 8:03So I think that's one big problem.
- 8:04The second problem that I'm very interested in is this idea of
- 8:07the little guy or the cortical retail investor being able to
- 8:11get a level playing field against these large
- 8:13institutions. And I think that those two
- 8:16issues are very interrelated because now what we know in this
- 8:19country is you can't be a saver. You need to be an investor, as
- 8:21these retail folks realize, have to become an investor.
- 8:24They need access to information, they need access to the market.
- 8:26So that's my focus. That's where I I think I'm most
- 8:28passionate about. That's what I'm most
- 8:29intellectually stimulated by. Old rings the alarm and Bitcoin
- 8:34builds the exit. When confidence cracks, capital
- 8:37doesn't disappear. It retreats from complexity to
- 8:41simplicity, from paper to hard assets.
- 8:43Cash first, then gold and silver.
- 8:46And in the digital age, Bitcoin sits right beside them for
- 8:49portability and self custody. By the way, it's interesting
- 8:52what you say, the fact that for the regular guys that are
- 8:55trading after hours are like, what do I mess with now?
- 8:58They don't have access to anything.
- 8:59They don't have access to anything.
- 9:00What they do with crypto, you can track what Bitcoin's doing.
- 9:03Gold, gold's closed, stocks are closed, bonds are closed,
- 9:06everything is closed. Now here's The thing is Trump on
- 9:08Sunday night, you know, I I posted this this meme, it's like
- 9:11abracadabra make the markets go back up right And what does he
- 9:14do? He tweets out an hour and a half
- 9:15before a futures open on Sunday night.
- 9:17Like the guy knows what he's doing and so that you know that
- 9:19that's fine, understand that. But I think the bigger thing
- 9:21about crypto and Bitcoin in particular is if you sold your
- 9:25Bitcoin because of geopolitical uncertainty, you had no clue
- 9:29what you were holding. The whole point of Bitcoin it is
- 9:31that it is a non sovereign asset.
- 9:33It is supposed to be the safe haven that you can go and hold
- 9:36regardless what any government in the world does.
- 9:38And so I think that's part of what people are trying to figure
- 9:40out now is the hardcore bit corners.
- 9:42They know that they're looking to buy on dips, but you still
- 9:45get tons of new people who come in and obviously leverage plays
- 9:49a huge part of this. And so the big story over the
- 9:51weekend was there was $19 billion of leverage that got
- 9:53wiped out. Now you can look at that as how
- 9:55the prices went down. The way I look at it is we just
- 9:58reset the entire leverage in the system and therefore that
- 10:01probably clears us so that we can go higher.
- 10:03Say that again non sovereign, and that word matters now more
- 10:08than ever. So what does the policy in game
- 10:10look like when no one wants long duration dollars and the
- 10:13treasury still has a tab to pay? Oh man, we have absolute heat
- 10:17coming from Luke Groman. He's about to blow your mind.
- 10:20But before we we bring it home, look at our likes 3 or 4 times.
- 10:23Maybe I'll pump those numbers up.
- 10:25Those are rookie numbers in this racket.
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- 11:15What Bitcoin did, I would have guessed it'd have been a couple
- 11:17of years ago and we were talking about inflation coming back in.
- 11:21In fact, I think it was when inflation was still relatively
- 11:22high. But you said that it's not a
- 11:25zero percent chance of it goes like 4050% inflation.
- 11:29Do you still think that's on the cards?
- 11:32I think only, I think there's still a risk of it for some
- 11:39period of time simply because of the level of debt in the system.
- 11:45You know, all the great inflations that you see are not
- 11:47because, oops, the central bank was too loose and the economy
- 11:51ran too hot and inflation suddenly went to 40 or 50.
- 11:53That's not how it works. It's the, the great inflations
- 11:57are we have debt to GDP of 120% and our foreign creditors are
- 12:02not buying our debt like they were either at all or certainly
- 12:07relative to the new deficits. And our deficits are 6 to 7% of
- 12:10GDP. And then we have some sort of
- 12:13crisis. And when we have the crisis,
- 12:18receipts fall interest. Interest, you know, doesn't
- 12:21fall. Foreigners sell bonds to get
- 12:23liquid, and rates start going up in your crisis.
- 12:25And you go into a debt spiral because of the level of your
- 12:28debt, level of your secular deficits.
- 12:30And then the central bank and the government faces a choice,
- 12:33which is simply, do we stand aside and default on our
- 12:36applications or do we print money to keep our debt nominally
- 12:41money good. And it's those times when
- 12:44governments are printing money to keep their debt nominally
- 12:47money good, that we've seen the greatest inflations in history.
- 12:50And and of course, the numbers I just laid out were the numbers
- 12:53of the United States. And so, yeah.
- 12:57Is it possible? Sure.
- 12:58Is my base case? No.
- 13:02But it would depend on events. It would, you know, if we get a
- 13:06crisis, we get a recession where receipts start to fall, GDP
- 13:11starts to fall, GDP falling with with debt to GDP and deficits
- 13:18where they are structural deficits.
- 13:19You don't. You, you, you.
- 13:22It's not a policy option. You have you.
- 13:25Have Yeah, you, you start to see and, you know, importantly,
- 13:29we've seen hints of this. We even saw it earlier this year
- 13:33where, if you remember, part of the plan, right, we're going to
- 13:36do austerity and we're going to doge and we're going to we're
- 13:39going to take some pain and we're going to best is going to
- 13:42scare stocks into bonds and he's going to get the 10 year down
- 13:45judges by the 10 year judges by the 10 year.
- 13:48I think this was February, He said this.
- 13:52And then we do we start moving toward we we weren't even in
- 13:54deliberation day yet. We were just into March and
- 14:00stocks going down 10 yields going down.
- 14:02So far so good. And like 10 days in, all of a
- 14:04sudden stocks keep going down, 10 yields starts going up and
- 14:08keeps going up, keeps going up. And then we do liberation day
- 14:11and it like comes down for a cup of coffee and then takes off
- 14:14like a scalded cat higher. This is emerging market with a
- 14:21fiscal crisis having a recession, trading action.
- 14:24Translation When buyers vanish, the market forces the Fed and
- 14:28Treasury to choose inflation over a cascading default,
- 14:32regardless of however they decide to rebrand.
- 14:35It all the QE inflation that that was, you know the although
- 14:39there was feared and never arrived.
- 14:41Just come in. Like a freight train as as our
- 14:43friend Lynnwood say so like and again, this was always in the
- 14:49cake. There is no like the math is the
- 14:51math and that's why I say the events like you need to, you
- 14:58need to protect yourself like this.
- 15:00You know, we all enjoyed the party, you know, whether we
- 15:04voted for it or not, right? You know, your boomers and and
- 15:08silent generation are getting 70% of record tax receipts and
- 15:12entitlements. And yes, they did pay into that.
- 15:14They didn't pay that much for it all.
- 15:16You know, there's been inflation of services, etcetera.
- 15:18They're they're taking out more than they put in.
- 15:21That's why it doesn't are what they are.
- 15:23And oh, by the way, our politicians spent their money
- 15:26as, as they put it in, they're spending our money.
- 15:29So, yeah, I mean, it's, it's somewhat cliche, like, hey, you
- 15:33need to go on Bitcoin, but like you need to go on a Bitcoin.
- 15:36We're in that part of the cycle. It just is what it is.
- 15:39And I hope, you know, after it's over, then, you know, I can
- 15:41leave a note in my will for my grandkids or great grandkids and
- 15:45say, listen, there's going to come a time around, you know,
- 15:4720, 85 and you're going to, you know, you're going to want to
- 15:52start buying some, some, some gold again.
- 15:55And I'll be done with it for, for, for the rest of my life.
- 15:57And, you know, it's just, it's the arc, you know, that's all it
- 16:00is, you know, gold and Bitcoin is just the arc to get you
- 16:03through this monetary storm, this monetary flood.
- 16:06And I write about a lot more because that's what's, you know,
- 16:13that's what's happening. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's
- 16:16accelerating. Like, you know, I'm the water's
- 16:17up to my knees and I'm still coming in.
- 16:19It's like, well OK, get busy building the heart faster.
- 16:23Gold is the alarm. Bitcoin is the ark in
- 16:2619/29/1973. In 2008, the ratio warned before
- 16:31the narrative did 2025 rhymes. But this time we have Bitcoin.
- 16:35Gold is telling us the house is on fire, that the flood is
- 16:38coming. Well, Bitcoin is the fire escape
- 16:40or the ark, whichever you prefer.
- 16:42But stack smart custody, right? And remember up only as Max
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