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Title IX and the fight for equal athletic opportunities · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  But the Supreme Court may have been hearing the absolute biggest case of this year on Tuesday.
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  Let's uh get into several things here in this first segment.
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  But I want to really start with the Supreme Court, because they are very important as we all know, and we have a conservative court right now.
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  And as we look to what I think is probably the biggest decision the Supreme Court will make this year, is what is happening right now and what they heard arguments on in Tuesday, and that is transgender athletes and specifically state cases that are being challenged by the left because states like West Virginia, as an example, they have decided that boys can't play in girls' sports.
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  They have made a law.
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  So is that law legal?
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  Does it cross the line and step on someone's constitutional rights?
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  For history on this, you really have to go back to Title IX when it started in the late 1970s.
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  Before that, women in sports in colleges and universities, they really didn't have any rights.
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  The men had all the scholarships.
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  That's the way it was.
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  If you look at a football team, has a hundred players.
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  Back then, uh Bear Bryant at Alabama, he may have one hundred and fifty on scholarship, and throw in a basketball team, a baseball team, and before you know it, women have no scholarships to play college sports.
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  And Title IX leveled that out where women had to have as many as men.
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  Now we have people like Leah Thomas.
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  If you don't remember Leah Thomas, she was or he was.
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  Again, my uh ability with these pronouns is not good.
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  I'll do the best I can, but Leah was a guy who swam in college.
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  He was ranked about 450th.
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  He decides to be a female.
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  He identifies as a female, and he starts swimming in college on an NCAA swim team.
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  He ends up winning a national championship.
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  You'll remember Leah Thomas because that is who defeated Riley Gaines as an example.
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  Biologically, I think we could all agree that a man is gonna be more athletic than a woman, and that's why Title IX existed to begin with.
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  But people like Leah Thomas are taking opportunities away from our daughters and granddaughters, the very opportunity that ironically was fought for by the left, and now the left is trying to take it away from our daughters and granddaughters.
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  I know it doesn't make much sense.
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  Let's get into the story that was the hearing in the Supreme Court on Tuesday.
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  The Supreme Court taking up a high stakes debate with implications for millions of female athletes across the country.
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  On the docket, two cases from two states Idaho and West Virginia.
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  It has been a place where she's been able to make friends and feel community and you know feel really supported.
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  And so the idea that she would lose that opportunity is hard to imagine.
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  That's a mother there talking about her daughter losing an opportunity.
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  Let's talk about that real quick.
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  What opportunity is a girl losing if they allow boys or trans boys or boys that identify as girls if they allow them to play in sports.
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  Well, most teams, when you get to high school level junior high, even middle school, I guess is what they call it now.
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  When you get to middle school, they cut you.
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  That means you aren't good enough to be on the team.
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  If it's a basketball team and you have twelve players and three boys that identify as a girl are trying out biologically, they are better, they're better athletes, and they make the team.
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  You just uh took out three girls there of the twelve.
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  So now three of the twelve are boys, and your daughter who has worked for years now to play basketball, no longer has that opportunity.
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  It takes away that opportunity for her to get a scholarship in college in the same way.
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  That's what this is about.
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  It was a very important issue over the last four years, and especially in the elections that were in 2024.
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  This was a driver of people to get to the polls because of DEI and wokeness, and this fits into that wokeness category and the virtue signaling.
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  It has been a place where she's been able to make friends and feel community and you know feel really supported.
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  And so the idea that she would lose that opportunity is hard to imagine.
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  Both are among the 27 states that have passed laws only allowing biological females to participate in girls' and women's sports in public schools and colleges.
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  Outside the court, current and former athletes gathered, like Chelsea Mitchell, a high school track star, who lost four state championships to biological males who identified as girls.
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  It's just really heartbreaking to line up against biological males time after time and know that I didn't have a chance at winning.
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  Another Connecticut runner, Selena Sol competed against and lost two biological males when she was in high school.
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  I said enough is enough, and if the adults in the room don't want to do anything to protect us, then I need to be the one to stand up.
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  So you're one of the first ones to speak out on this issue.
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  What has it been like to watch it swell over the years into what we see out here today all the way at the Supreme Court?
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  It's been incredible to see the amount of love and support that we've gotten from people across the country, and in the beginning, I was really the only one that there was nobody else.
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  And on the other side of the debate, people traveled to Washington, D.C.
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  to have their voices heard outside the court.
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  The results of these cases could have greater implications on trans rights across the board.
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  You can almost call it like a Trojan horse.
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  We spoke with Jacqueline.
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  Call it like a Trojan horse could have a big implication for trans rights across the board, is what they are saying.
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  But what about girls, our daughters and our granddaughters?
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  What about their rights?
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  And that's what the Supreme Court is dealing with.
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  Does this step upon someone's rights?
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  And if it does, whose rights is it stepping on?
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  That's what the Supreme Court is always deciding.
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  Individual rights.
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  That means that little girl in the middle school that is trying out for the basketball team, is it taking away her right?
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  Or is the right for the guy that is identifying as a girl?
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  That's the difficult question that the Supreme Court has to deal with.
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  And it's always like that.
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  It comes down to really one narrow question with the Supreme Court.
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  And the question they're considering is can states designate girls and boys' sports teams based on biological sexing Title IX and the Equal Protection Clause.
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  Justice Sam Alito, he really went after the attorneys arguing for transgender males trying to compete in girls' sports, and he was excellent at it.
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  Here is that exchange.
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  Boys' school that has a boys, let's say, track team and a girls' track team.
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  Uh uh school has that.
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  And a student who uh has the genes and the reproductive system of a male and had those at birth and has never taken puberty blockers, never uh uh taken uh uh uh female hormones, never had any gender altering or affirming.
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  Surgery says, nevertheless, I am a woman.
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  That's who I am.
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  Can the school say no, you cannot participate uh on the girls' team.
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  Sorry, so you're just a birth sex male who has all the advantages of birth sex male hormones, and can the school borrow him from the woman's team?
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  Yes, they can.
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  But that person is that person not a woman in your understanding?
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  If the person says, I sincerely believe I a woman, I am in fact a woman.
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  That's their argument.
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  That person not a woman.
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  I I would respect their self-identity in addressing the person, but in terms of the statute, I'm I think the question is does that person have a sex-based biological advantage that's going to make it unfair for that person to be part of the women's team?
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  And that that's the rationale for the regulation, and so that's the reason that's the way we'd be testing that hypothetical.
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  Well, that the reason I'm asking has to do with discrimination on the basis of transgender status.
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  So, what you are seem to be saying is yes, it is permissible for the school to discriminate on the basis of transgender status, because if this person is um a trans woman, a trans girl, and is barred from the team from the girls' team, uh, then that person is being subjected to differential treatment based on trans.
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  Gender status, right?
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  Well, that would be then the question would be whether it was uh the scrutiny would be satisfied.
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  So from our perspective, that would be a transgender classification.
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  This is also confusing for me.
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  I don't know if it is for you.
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  But if a boy is born a boy, then he is a boy.
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  If he is a girl, he is a girl.
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  That's about as complex as I get on this issue.
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  Keep the boys out of the girls' sports.
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  What else do we need to discuss?
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  Hopefully the Supreme Court agrees with me.
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  Let's go to this questioning.
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  Here's attorney with Justice Jackson, and she is the genius that couldn't even define a woman.
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  And now she sits listening to these arguments to determine whether someone that thinks they're a woman.
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  I this is very confusing to me.
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  But here we go with Katanji Jackson Brown.
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  But they are being prevented from playing on the team that matches their gender identity, correct?
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  That's the effect.
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  So let me use your example from earlier.
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  You said there's a cisgender woman.
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  She could play on the team she wants.
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  Right.
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  There's a boy who identifies the girl, he can't play on the team he wants.
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  Take that same boy and switch his gender identity, but say he still wanted to play on the girls' team.
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  Say he was a very unathletic boy.
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  He likewise couldn't play on the team.
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  So it's not the gender identity that's keeping him off the girls' team.
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  It's his biological sex.
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  His gender identity is wholly irrelevant to it.
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  Now I agree with you, there's a very significant disparate impact on transgender individuals by this law because they're the boys who are most likely to want to.
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  I just had a thought.
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  Remember when these uh leftist Lib Tards were identifying as cats or dogs.
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  What about the ones that identify as dogs?
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  Could they get in the Westminster dog show that's going on right now in New York?
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  Could I I never had that thought before.
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  I was just curious.
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  Don't they have the right to go be in the dog show if they identify as a dog?
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  This is how stupid all of this is.
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  Of course, they wouldn't be in a dog show.
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  They're not really identifying as a dog.
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  It's something to get attention, and much of this is as well.
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  Title Nine never covers that kind of disparate impact in terms of its discriminatory effect.
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  Uh well, it certainly doesn't cover dispar first of all.
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  I don't think title nine covers disparate impact, period, because it uses But in terms of its discriminatory effect.
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  I'm just trying to understand it.
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  Is there something to this notion that some that differential treatment in effect in this way could be something that Title Nine cares about?
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  Hey, I don't think Title Nine covers disparate impact even on the basis of sex, that certainly doesn't cover disparate impact on the basis of gender identity.
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  I'm not gonna hold my breath whether she is going to figure that out.
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  I'm not.
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  We have the Supreme Court Justice who could not define a woman trying to make a decision on this.
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  And this is why she should have never been approved to be there.
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  But guess what?
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  The Democrats nuked the filibuster in 2013, and because of that, we can have activist judges end up on the Supreme Court bench.
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  And that's exactly what happened in this case, because it only took 51 Democrats to approve her appointment to the Supreme Court.
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  This is really just about the definition of um who we accept that you can accept separate boys and girls and we are now looking at the definition of a girl, and we're saying only people who were um girl assigned at birth qualify.
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  What?
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  This makes my head hurt, I'm telling you.
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  Depends on her not having a competitive advantage because she's not been through male puberty.
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  That that and not just not been through male puberty, but also gone through a female hormonal puberty with all the physio physiological changes accompanying it.
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  But that the argument goes away if if that if those facts.
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  Can you believe that this is what our Supreme Court is having to deal with right now?
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  There's a lot going on in this country.
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  There's a whole lot going on in the world, and this is it.
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  If you were born with a penis, you are a boy when it comes to sports.
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  If you don't have one, then you are a girl.
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  Let me make the decision.
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  I can do it very quickly, and we don't have to go through all this stuff in the Supreme Court.
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  Let them uh spend their time on IEPA and birthright citizenship, which will they will be hearing.
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  It's coming up soon in the Supreme Court.
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  It's going to be interesting.
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  We'll watch how this works out.
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  I think with the Supreme Court being six to three on the conservative side.
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  I think that this one is going to be pretty safe.
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  That these state laws, these 27 states that have passed laws saying that if you were born a boy, you can't play in girls' sports.
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  I think it's going to be upheld.
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  I don't think that it really steps on anyone's constitutional rights, one person over another, other than maybe the girls that are losing their opportunity for uh a college scholarship down the road.
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  If they can't play in middle school and in high school, they're losing that opportunity as well.
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  So I think the Supreme Court will come out on this side.
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  I don't know what the number will be.
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  You have six Supreme Court justices that are conservative.
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  You have three that are more liberal, three that are liberal.
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  You heard uh Katanji Jackson Brown there that can't define anything, evidently.
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  But you know, most of the time the Supreme Court comes out with the majority being nine to nothing.
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  Did you know that?
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  The the highest percentage of decisions in the Supreme Court is nine to nothing.
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  So maybe this one isn't even six to three.
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  The three liberal judges happen to be all female.
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  How will they read this for young girls and for women in college sports?
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  We'll have to wait and see.
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  It's going to be interesting to watch.
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  But I do believe those laws are safe and that our girls will be safe.
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  And it was a big part of the election in 2024.
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  It drove a lot of people to the polls to go vote.
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  And before we get to the break, let's go back to Minnesota.
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  coming and endorsing Donald Trump really gave that campaign some momentum at a time when it needed it.
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  RFK Jr.
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  is running things on the medical side.
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  Maha, we heard everything about Maha making America healthy again.
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  He's taking dyes out of food and he's doing other things.
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  Well, the FDA commissioner is Marty McCarey, and you may remember him from Fox News.
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  He was uh a guest a whole lot.
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  He was a Fox News contributor all during COVID, and he became very popular there.
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  He is the commissioner of the FDA, and he says they purposefully lied to the American people.
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  He says they did that for nearly two decades against dietary fats to help big pharma.
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  He says that McCarey is saying that people avoided fat and ate more sugar, so pharma could sell them more drugs.
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  It's not a stretch, is it?
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  Let's listen to the FDA commissioner Marty McCarry.
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  They suppressed the data for 16 years.
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  Two other large studies failed to show an association.
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  Finally, the study trickled out in the medical literature.
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  Nobody noticed it.
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  Those on the low fat group had higher rates of heart attacks.
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  Why?
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  Maybe because when you avoid fat, you have to pound food with carbohydrates and often ultra-processed carbohydrates stripped of fiber and chopped up at functions like sugar.
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  We created a generation of children with low protein, high carbohydrates, sugar addiction, and burdened with ultra-processed foods.
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  And what did we do as a medical field?
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  Drugged them at scale.
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  Those days are over.
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  We are telling people the truth about food.
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  And that is what Maha has been doing since they uh came into office in 2025 in January 2025.
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  I think they're doing a great job.
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  I just don't think that anyway.
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  But let's go to Los Angeles and let's get back into talking about ice.
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  I talked about it in the first segment with Stephen Miller.
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  Here is a story about what ICE is doing in Los Angeles.
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  The Department of Homeland Security saying that more than 10,000 illegal aliens have been arrested in Los Angeles since immigration enforcement began back in June.
• 25:49
  DHS saying that it nabbed some of the worst of the worst, including murderers, kidnappers, sexual predators, and armed carjackers.
• 25:58
  The enforcement, as you remember, was met with violent protests with many demonstrators.
• 26:03
  You remember all those protests in Los Angeles?
• 26:05
  It was crazy.
• 26:06
  They have now arrested 10,000 illegal immigrants in Los Angeles.
• 26:12
  It's a start.
• 26:13
  It's a tip of the iceberg in Los Angeles and in California.
• 26:16
  We know that that state is full of illegals, but at least they are getting people off the street, and they are dangerous people as well.
• 26:24
  Representative Brandon Gill has been featured here on this program several times.
• 26:29
  He is the son-in-law of Dinesh D'Souza.
• 26:31
  And listen to this.
• 26:33
  He says the Republicans and conservatives should stand up and be loud.
• 26:38
  Don't allow the left to do what they have done to us over the last four years.
• 26:42
  Don't make them shut you up.
• 26:44
  Don't let them do it.
• 26:46
  Listen to Brandon Gill.
• 26:47
  We're not going to play these games anymore.
• 26:48
  We're not going to be intimidated by Democrats launching baseless slurs against Republicans for being racist.
• 26:54
  We're not.
• 26:54
  We're looking for fraud, and we're looking to make sure that our tax dollars are being stewarded wisely.
• 27:00
  The problem in Minnesota is that you have two things.
• 27:03
  You have mass migration from third world countries.
• 27:06
  We have people coming in, and they're and then once they get here, they're being uh uh led to this massive welfare state that has no checks on it, and they're basically being told you can get what you want from the government, you can defraud it.
• 27:19
  Democrats are gonna close our eyes, we're gonna look at the city.
• 27:21
  And everything goes back to Minnesota these days, doesn't it?
• 27:25
  There are other states that need to be looked at, and I think that is gonna start happening.
• 27:30
  I have mentioned it before.
• 27:32
  There have been convictions also in Mississippi.
• 27:34
  We shouldn't forget that there were 500 billion to one trillion dollars in money stolen from the American taxpayers from COVID relief.
• 27:44
  A trillion dollars.
• 27:46
  It happened through the PPP program.
• 27:48
  If you remember that program where if you owned a business, you could just get a loan.
• 27:53
  They eventually forgave it.
• 27:55
  But a lot of people were just saying they owned a business and they really didn't.
• 27:59
  They were asking for more money than they actually needed, or uh in some cases they weren't even entitled to.
• 28:07
  In a lot of cases, to the tune of 500 billion to one trillion dollars.
• 28:12
  That is where this Minnesota money is from.
• 28:15
  This has been going on for seven years in Minnesota.
• 28:18
  This isn't new.
• 28:20
  Not at all.
• 28:21
  DHS Secretary Christy Dome was on with Maria Barteromo on Sunday.
• 28:25
  I didn't have a chance to play this earlier in the week.
• 28:28
  I was actually going to play it with Matt Bulumbo on Monday night, but let's get to it now.
• 28:32
  Unfortunately, when you don't have the partnership of the city, Mayor Fry and Governor Walls have been very clear that they're going to continue their rhetoric.
• 28:39
  They're going to continue to uh put criminals and and corrupt illegal aliens above the people that live in that city and in that state.
• 28:47
  Um, they've said they're not going to help us, so we'll make sure that we protect our officers, but we also follow through on making sure these criminals are brought to justice.
• 28:54
  And we'll wait and see what the DHS does to hold those criminals responsible and accountable for those that impede ice and the work that they are trying to do in getting illegals off the street in Minneapolis.
• 29:08
  There was some more news that came out of the House of Representatives on Tuesday when Bill Clinton failed to show up for his hearing.
• 29:16
  He was supposed to testify about Epstein and the Epstein Island and all of that.
• 29:21
  If you remember, the Epstein files were supposed to be released by December 17.
• 29:27
  I'm sorry, December 19th.
• 29:28
  December 19th was the date that the entire Epstein files were supposed to be released.
• 29:34
  They passed a law in Congress.
• 29:36
  Donald Trump signed it, and it that was the deal.
• 29:40
  They did that back on November 19th.
• 29:42
  They gave the Department of Justice 30 days to do that.
• 29:46
  So far, we have one percent of the Epstein files.
• 29:49
  For me, I personally, I don't care.
• 29:52
  I just don't care.
• 29:52
  I don't think it changes anything.
• 29:54
  People on the left, they're not gonna believe that it's true.
• 29:57
  They're gonna think Donald Trump has scrubbed the entire thing.
• 30:00
  And I think people on the right, the conservative side, they're going to be the same way.
• 30:04
  They're going to think that not everything is being released.
• 30:07
  So nothing is going to happen when it is.
• 30:10
  However, the Department of Justice is defying the law right now.
• 30:14
  We are almost a month past December 19th, and we still don't have the Epstein files.
• 30:20
  Bill Clinton was supposed to be on Capitol Hill on Tuesday.
• 30:24
  He didn't show up.
• 30:26
  Here is James Comer, the head of the Judiciary Committee in the House of Representatives.
• 30:31
  Oversight James Comer speaking as the Clintons refused to testify and his Epstein investigation.
• 30:40
  Of the House Oversight Committee to subpoena.
• 30:43
  Former President Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
• 30:47
  Hillary Clinton's supposed to show up tomorrow.
• 30:49
  We'll see what happens there.
• 30:50
  But with respect to the former president, he he did not show up today.
• 31:12
  I think I've been to the White House nine times in nine years.
• 31:20
  Does that mean anything?
• 31:22
  We know that Epstein and Clinton had a relationship anyway.
• 31:26
  And I think you can get into the weeds on all of this, but I don't think that matters.
• 31:30
  I think what matters right now, Bill Clinton not coming for a subpoena to testify.
• 31:37
  Others have been arrested.
• 31:39
  They have uh gone to prison for the very same thing.
• 31:42
  Peter Navarro, who is in the Trump administration now, he was the first time.
• 31:47
  Steve Bannon is another one.
• 31:50
  They failed to show up for a subpoena, and both of them were charged, convicted, and put in prison for doing this.
• 31:58
  Are they going to do this now to Bill Clinton?
• 32:02
  They are going to refer him to the Department of Justice for criminality for not showing up for this.
• 32:10
  He's issued a subpoena now.
• 32:13
  He is not showing up.
• 32:15
  This could be problems for Bill Clinton.
• 32:17
  And then politically, I think you also have to look at it.
• 32:20
  What are you gaining from it on the right on the conservative side for the midterm election?
• 32:25
  I don't know that you're gaining anything by doing this.
• 32:28
  In fact, it may hurt you because the people on the left are saying Donald Trump is weaponizing.
• 32:33
  And for what?
• 32:35
  For what are we getting out of this from Bill Clinton testifying?
• 32:39
  Don't you think if he went and testified and he was trying to cover up some illegal activity that he would probably just take the Fifth Amendment?
• 32:50
  I think he would.
• 32:52
  So what exactly would be gained and garnered from his testimony?
• 32:58
  I know people want it.
• 32:59
  I get it.
• 32:59
  I understand.
• 33:00
  A lot of people, it's very important that you get to the bottom of the Epstein list.
• 33:05
  The Epstein files.
• 33:06
  For me, it never really has been.
• 33:09
  But more importantly, here is Bill Clinton defying Hillary Clinton defying coming and testifying on a subpoena.
• 33:18
  And we have the precedent of the Department of Justice under Joe Biden, charging and convicting conservatives for doing the same thing.
• 33:28
  And here we are.
• 33:29
  If we truly want accountability and truly want this, then it really doesn't matter what it means politically in the midterm.
• 33:37
  Let me say that.
• 33:39
  I know I talk a lot about politics, but this time I think it does not matter.
• 33:44
  You're still a year away, people may forget about it.
• 33:47
  But if Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton are not above the law, then it's time to show them that they are not above the law, and the American people need to see that as well.
• 33:58
  So if they don't show up, which they haven't, Bill Clinton hasn't, let's go get him.
• 34:04
  Let's convict him.
• 34:05
  We know that Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's plane somewhere around 27 times after the presidency.
• 34:13
  So no one's accusing Bill Clinton of anything any wrongdoing.
• 34:16
  We just have questions, and that's why the Democrats voted along with Republicans to subpoena Bill Clinton.
• 34:22
  Not a single Democrat showed up today.
• 34:25
  Not a single Democrat.
• 34:27
  The ones that have press conferences on the Capitol Steps and talk about how they're trying to get justice for the victims and all that.
• 34:34
  And now James Comer is getting into the politics of it.
• 34:37
  It's all about politics, isn't it?
• 34:39
  We haven't heard from Senator Kennedy from Louisiana in a while.
• 34:43
  Let's play a quick clip from him because he's talking about Greenland.
• 34:48
  And then I have a clip from Marco Rubio about the Europeans trying to get in America's business when it comes to Venezuela and Greenland to appoint.
• 34:57
  But here's Senator John Kennedy talking about Greenland and President Trump.
• 35:02
  To invade Greenland and attack its sovereignty.
• 35:11
  Would be weapons grade stupid.
• 35:16
  President Trump is not weapons grade stupid.
• 35:20
  Nor is Marco Rubio.
• 35:23
  He's right.
• 35:23
  And I think Greenland is safe.
• 35:26
  Denmark is safe.
• 35:27
  They are NATO countries.
• 35:29
  And Marco Rubio is talking with Denmark now this week.
• 35:34
  And hopefully things will come out okay for America when it comes to Greenland, because I have talked about it before on a show.
• 35:41
  It's pretty important territory for America and America's national security.
• 35:46
  Now let's go to Marco Rubio talking about the international community trying to get in America's business.
• 35:52
  Here's what he had to say.
• 35:54
  I don't think that the European Union gets to determine what international law is.
• 35:58
  They certainly don't get to determine is how the United States defends its national security.
• 36:01
  The United States is under attack from organized criminal narco terrorists in our hemisphere, and the president is responding in the defense of our country.
• 36:19
  Great point.
• 36:19
  But when the United States positions aircraft carriers in our hemisphere where we live, somehow that's a problem.
• 36:24
  So I would say that the United States is, and this president's made very clear his job is to protect the United States from threats against the United States, and that is what he's doing in this operation.
• 36:33
  Do we really care what the European Union thinks?
• 36:37
  We have sent so many weapons over to Europe to protect them.
• 36:43
  That's what uh Ukraine has been all about from Americans' perspective.
• 36:47
  They're so far away from us, Russia and Ukraine, they have nothing to do with America.
• 36:52
  But our allies, our NATO allies, those in Eastern Europe, we have defended them.
• 36:58
  Hundreds of billions of dollars in weapons have gone their way.
• 37:02
  And now they want to tell America, Donald Trump and Marco Rubio, you shouldn't be doing that in Venezuela.
• 37:09
  You shouldn't be doing that in Greenland.
• 37:12
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• 39:06
  Welcome back here to the Truth Be Told on America Out Loud Talk Radio.
• 39:09
  I'm Booker Scott.
• 39:10
  And you know so much is made out of artificial intelligence these days.
• 39:15
  Where exactly is artificial intelligence?
• 39:17
  It's great thing for Chat GPT.
• 39:20
  It's great for writing papers and stories and paragraphs.
• 39:24
  It's great for looking up things, but there's so much more to it, and there's gonna be a whole lot more that we should pay attention to.
• 39:31
  Right now I'm gonna bring an expert in in this field.
• 39:34
  His name is Jason Ho.
• 39:36
  He is the CEO of Techlium.
• 39:38
  Jason, welcome to the program.
• 39:40
  Great to have you.
• 39:41
  I appreciate it.
• 39:42
  Thank you having me here.
• 39:44
  Yeah, we are we're glad you're here.
• 39:46
  And you know, I was looking at your background, and your background is really impressive.
• 39:51
  You actually worked on semiconductors on F 35s, and that's what your business is.
• 39:57
  And I found it very interesting that you talk a lot about.
• 40:00
  China, I see China as America's largest adversary.
• 40:04
  And really, our only concern on the world stage, we see how they steal all the intellectual property.
• 40:10
  And according to you and the information that you've put out, you say that everything that we use that has a semiconductor in it, which is almost everything we use, all of that comes from China.
• 40:21
  Am I right in that?
• 40:23
  Incorrectly, because Chinese, not only Chinese, a single group and related by blood, a family group, they control almost the world semiconductor industry.
• 40:35
  You talk about the CEOs of NVD, uh, AMD, TSMC, most of the semiconductor companies in Taiwan, Huawei, they are all related by blood.
• 40:45
  Yeah, yeah.
• 40:46
  And it would be great if we could get some of that back here in America, and we could become the dominant nation in the world.
• 40:54
  And we we see that Elon Musk and um Donald Trump, they brought up Stargate.
• 40:59
  What do you think the objective is here and how long is this going to take to uh develop?
• 41:07
  And I think I have a little bit different point of view of AI, because people focus on the AI, that's correct.
• 41:14
  But uh, we also need to look at another thing that's the data associated to AI.
• 41:19
  And AI requires a large amount of data.
• 41:22
  Why is that?
• 41:24
  And because using the AI, they can collect data freely without any legal concerns.
• 41:30
  If people collecting data, and definitely there were legal consequences, you might find a lawsuit to violate privacy.
• 41:36
  But what if AI does it?
• 41:39
  That's the loophole for AI.
• 41:41
  So AI actually associated with very large amount of data.
• 41:45
  2023, they collected about 230 zettabytes.
• 41:50
  And the last year, the estimated can reach to 400 zettabytes.
• 41:55
  One zeta byte is a one million terabyte.
• 41:57
  So give imagine how much information they're taking from us.
• 42:00
  Yeah.
• 42:01
  And they're getting it from just about everywhere, aren't they?
• 42:03
  And we're unaware of it.
• 42:05
  They're pulling all this information in.
• 42:08
  And I even for this show, the truth be told with Booker Scott, I check AI every once in a while.
• 42:13
  I'll check GROK, I check Meta.
• 42:15
  And the reason why I do that, I want to make sure that I'm presenting things the way that I want to.
• 42:20
  I don't want to be too far right.
• 42:21
  I want to be fair, but I want to, you know, I want to be objective.
• 42:25
  And I want to, and I use AI to do that because everything that I say on this program and that you're saying right now is collected.
• 42:33
  And we're completely unaware of the massive data collection that's going on, aren't we?
• 42:40
  That's correct.
• 42:41
  Because first, AI collect data, but that's one more thing.
• 42:45
  It's very, very horrible because actually, when AI runs so perfectly, they need human human beings, yes, human beings, not computers, to curate those data.
• 42:57
  The minimum estimations, they need about a hundred thousand data experts or data architects.
• 43:03
  But uh, there's another number from the one of FCC report, the Federal Communication Commission, the report estimate about 30 to 40 million people actually are creating those data collected from us.
• 43:17
  So without us knowing our data is being collected, and from that, what happens?
• 43:25
  What happens with that data?
• 43:26
  Where does it go?
• 43:27
  And how does artificial intelligence use it?
• 43:31
  So actually they use human beings to regulate those data.
• 43:36
  People doesn't know that.
• 43:37
  No, people think you talk to JDP, you you talk to the and they ask the some AI to create some beautiful and image for you.
• 43:45
  You think that's AI does this.
• 43:46
  No, AI has no comprehension, AI has no knowledge, it has no conscience.
• 43:51
  Actually, there's a large amount of people working behind, try to dissect the data to collect it and make it becoming a piece by piece, make it become meaningful, they can put together for something new.
• 44:04
  So actually, they need a huge large human power to do that.
• 44:08
  So usually if you hire a person to look at this data, it takes money, but in China it's free.
• 44:14
  So human beings are actually creating the pictures that we make through artificial intelligence.
• 44:20
  If we ask uh any of these services to create uh a picture of the sunset, that's actually a human being that is putting that together.
• 44:29
  That's correct.
• 44:29
  That people doesn't want to the industry doesn't want to tell you because the human beings, what we call the data expert and or we call the curators, is actually needed for analyze to manage to categorize those data to make it becoming piece by piece meaningful once they put it together as a sentence or picture or something you want to ask.
• 44:52
  And you are telling us that those people that are doing that, they're in China, and they're creating those images that we are viewing here.
• 45:03
  Because that's free.
• 45:04
  Because if you want to hire a person in America, you have to pay for it.
• 45:07
  They hire a person, even in India, I have to pay for it, but the China, it does it for free.
• 45:11
  I didn't know why they want to do this for free because they can get all the information from us.
• 45:15
  Also, they can control information, they can manipulate information.
• 45:19
  And so now when you consider all of our data and the fact that you know we're we're always concerned who is getting our data and where is it going?
• 45:30
  And we know that China has stolen and has tried to steal, and obviously they've been successful on it.
• 45:36
  But now we know why, don't we?
• 45:38
  One of the reasons why is because they are actually creating the images, and they are they is it human beings that are writing for us the things that we ask them to write?
• 45:48
  Like I will ask uh Grok on X to do this for me.
• 45:52
  And literally in seconds, I have an answer.
• 45:54
  How does that happen?
• 45:57
  It's not human beings, it's uh it's uh human beings to dissect data, analyze those data and put in piece-wise, so they can put a tag or put a coding if I do the easy way, just like put a and the category numbers in the very, very big libraries.
• 46:13
  When you ask something, they try to check your category numbers once they hit, they will put something meaningful to you.
• 46:19
  Okay, so actually they are human beings involved that need to put everything in order.
• 46:23
  Okay, so they get our information, and from that they create something, and of course, when you're writing code, everything is in numbers.
• 46:32
  There, there it's not letters.
• 46:34
  So they write that, and when something is tagged and somebody asks it to do something, then it grabs that tag and it throws something together for you.
• 46:41
  Is that simplifying the process?
• 46:44
  That's correct.
• 46:45
  And the actual price is quite as sophisticated, and also there's a lot of intelligence behind, but that's correct.
• 46:51
  Yeah.
• 46:52
  I I Jason, I'm pretty good at making difficult things easy because it has to be easy for me to understand it.
• 46:59
  Um, so I hear things and then I spit it out where it's easy to understand.
• 47:04
  Uh so now let's get to Elon Musk and Donald Trump and what they hope to do.
• 47:08
  What does that mean for America?
• 47:10
  And then what does that mean for Americans?
• 47:14
  I always want to share knowledge and information to the and especially the people in the conservative field have to notice that data is something quite evil.
• 47:24
  And because AI is driven by China.
• 47:27
  China is never kindly to drive something to benefit work.
• 47:30
  China drives the AI because they can use that NAND to hide intention to collect data free from us.
• 47:36
  Also, when under the AIN, they analyze to look at this data, look at the privacy to know everything, every secret but earth, even our and hardworking intelligence properties, and when they everything under the AI becoming legitimate.
• 47:50
  So this is something issue.
• 47:51
  But the one thing also difficult because data collection, we call the big data.
• 47:56
  This is a trillion dollars of business.
• 47:58
  Why is it so worthy?
• 47:59
  Why is the price so high?
• 48:00
  It's just like something so big, no one dare to touch, just like Trump wants to cut some funding and the and the waste from the government, people be angry.
• 48:09
  The same thing.
• 48:10
  They don't allow people to talk about big data because the magnitude, the value for this business too big, so no one dare to touch it.
• 48:18
  Yeah, it's almost overwhelming in some ways for so many people to comprehend, I believe.
• 48:24
  And so when you're talking in and saying those things, to me, I equate that in some ways to the southern border.
• 48:33
  If we are going to have a southern a sovereign nation, if we want a sovereign nation, then we also need to have our data, and we need to have our own ability to create artificial intelligence as opposed to China.
• 48:48
  We would also we would want to close or build a wall between us and China when it comes to semiconductors and artificial intelligence, uh, intellectual property, all of those things, so that we also keep America sovereign in that way, wouldn't we?
• 49:05
  So the AI actually is break that sovereignty because AI can collect whatever you do legally, illegally, like you design the and the beautiful engineering and the device, or like you write a beautiful point or make a beautiful song, a good book, because the human being in China, those Chinese can look at your data, dissect it, make useful pieces, and then can put together for something new.
• 49:30
  That's their work.
• 49:31
  So whatever you do, and when you say, Oh, I can get a free image from the AI, I can get a beautiful song from AI, even can write codes from AI.
• 49:38
  But when you do that, I remember you are depriving the real humans' right and real humans' effort.
• 49:46
  Before we started this conversation, you and I were speaking off air, and you were talking about uh the legal problems that exist with artificial intelligence and loopholes.
• 49:57
  Let's talk about cars that drive the
• 50:00
  For a minute.
• 50:01
  They have a car accident.
• 50:03
  Who's responsible?
• 50:04
  They run over somebody on a bicycle.
• 50:06
  Who is responsible?
• 50:09
  No, by the current law, it looks like the trend is because it's AI driving and uh the company off the hook.
• 50:16
  There's no problem.
• 50:17
  They have to just uh pay by yourself.
• 50:20
  Yeah, once we hit by car down the driving, that's your badlock.
• 50:24
  That's your responsibility.
• 50:25
  Yeah, there needs to be some legislation around this, doesn't it?
• 50:28
  There needs to be more laws.
• 50:29
  We're kind of behind the times when it comes to artificial intelligence and laws, I believe.
• 50:35
  And would you agree with that, Jason?
• 50:42
  In various many, many trips, it's difficult.
• 50:45
  Very difficult.
• 50:46
  The reason is very simple.
• 50:47
  Money behind.
• 50:48
  And just I talk about the medical insurance.
• 50:50
  For insurer to be responsible for any decision to accept or deny the medical claim, they have to face potential lawsuits.
• 51:00
  They're huge liability.
• 51:02
  But if AI can do that, then they're free off the hook.
• 51:05
  They can scrap off all the legal costs because you cannot suit any insurance anymore.
• 51:10
  Because when they deny it, they denied it.
• 51:11
  It's not human beings.
• 51:12
  And why is money involved?
• 51:14
  Because they provide a huge financial benefit to those big companies.
• 51:18
  It's very hard to ask lawmakers.
• 51:21
  Please think about our humble citizens.
• 51:24
  It's difficult.
• 51:25
  We don't have money to lobby and lawmakers.
• 51:28
  And also I think that maybe the lawmakers don't have a grasp on this as well.
• 51:33
  When it comes to TikTok, we hear all about the TikTok ban.
• 51:37
  We uh saw Donald Trump a couple of weeks ago say that, well, we're gonna own it.
• 51:41
  He extended the time on the TikTok ban, and he says, What about if we just own 50% of it?
• 51:46
  It's worth a trillion dollars.
• 51:47
  That's $500 billion for America.
• 51:50
  But if the problem with TikTok is that they are getting our data, why wouldn't we just go ahead and ban it anyway, regardless of the money?
• 52:01
  That's another in the jungle because TikTok, very unique, it's different than the YouTube, because TikTok actually actively recording our audio and the video when you use the TikTok.
• 52:15
  They collect those video images, audio images, and for the analysis to create something new and interesting.
• 52:21
  So there's nothing free for this word.
• 52:23
  And when China push TikTok so much, and the problem is not only the censorship, the problem is not who's behind.
• 52:30
  The problem is even TikTok becoming American company, but those data are still sent into the big data database.
• 52:36
  And someone, especially in China, because they are free, they will look at those data, analyze those data.
• 52:42
  And as we started this conversation, we were talking about semiconductors being in everything that we use, and they are in China.
• 52:50
  And of course, that's how they can ultimately take our data and our information, isn't it?
• 52:57
  That's exactly.
• 52:58
  This is a Chinese ambition interview.
• 53:01
  So I wrote a book about it, and uh and uh I called it the big plot.
• 53:05
  So I talk about my book here.
• 53:07
  And uh the and uh we I talk about the China actually, they prepare Martin Day since 1978.
• 53:15
  They're leader Den Xiaoping, because I know people hate China and people think China is evil, but I also want to say one thing in balance because China can be so influential and cut everything out of guard because they planned this for a long time ago.
• 53:30
  We must uh the mire they are their evil, yeah, and uh and they can plan things so far away.
• 53:35
  So 1978, then Shaqo decided China must control two industries communication and a semiconductor.
• 53:42
  Even back to 1978, very few people understand what is semiconductor, what is communication going to do in the future?
• 53:48
  Yeah, it's amazing how China has such long-term plans, and unfortunately, America, we live in a two-year election cycle, maybe four years, and then things change, and we're watching that right now, changing from Joe Biden to Donald Trump.
• 54:04
  But you are talking about 1978, and you look at the Belt and Road from China and the things that they've done around the world with it, they have very long-term goals, and they're very patient, aren't they, when it comes to these things?
• 54:18
  Is here we live under the face.
• 54:21
  We live a life, we believe in human value.
• 54:24
  China, they have no such consensus, they have no such concept.
• 54:28
  The only purpose for them is how to control the war, how to manage the world, how to manipulate the world.
• 54:34
  No matter this, is uh in their lifetime or in their descendants' lifetime, and that's their only purpose for the core of power.
• 54:41
  I didn't mention the Chinese people, but I talk about the Chinese common party.
• 54:45
  Yeah, yeah, the the CCP in China is the problem, not the Chinese people.
• 54:49
  And of course, China is beautiful.
• 54:51
  I I know that it is.
• 54:52
  My parents took a cruise there years ago and uh just talked uh talked about it and said it was very beautiful place.
• 54:59
  As we end this segment here, what do we need to look for as we go forward in the field of our fit our artificial in the field of artificial intelligence?
• 55:09
  It look into the data, the data AI took, and that's the core, that's the problem.
• 55:15
  If there's no law, no regulations on how AI can take data away from us, that will be problematic forever.
• 55:23
  And how concerned should American people be with this problem and with their data being collected?
• 55:31
  I think they should put the highest order.
• 55:34
  And actually, it's quite serious because with those data collection, they can do so many evil things, including the influence election forever.
• 55:42
  Yeah, and that's what we have seen them do.
• 55:44
  One more question about TikTok.
• 55:46
  Uh uh, since you're an expert on this, I have always heard that in China, TikTok is used, and the the children that use it, they use it for education, and that's what they are allowed to see.
• 55:57
  But in America, if you watch TikTok, which I don't, but I've seen it, and it's it's just a mess, the things that that people put on TikTok, the videos.
• 56:09
  It's yeah, some of them are fun, they're they're cute, and but but a lot of it's just terrible.
• 56:14
  And that's what our youth is learning is from TikTok there, and it's a terrible influence on them.
• 56:20
  Is China allowing that and doing that on purpose?
• 56:24
  But I have to mention the reason China used TikTok on children because TikTok is only software and studying the children's eye, which is viewers' eye, starting the eye movement, starting their eye reactions, and studying their facial reactions according to the video.
• 56:40
  China used that to control the students to find out any outliers.
• 56:45
  When they say how great the company's party is, if they some see something any and uh unhappy, angry about it, they will flag that person, that is young children, they need to collect them from the beginning or buy them onto anything important from the society.
• 56:59
  So when TikTok becomes so important too to monitor the children, their mental state from the childhood, and if we allow the American to use TikTok, allowing China to do the same thing on every American people.
• 57:10
  Can you imagine how worse it's going to be?
• 57:13
  Jason Ho is his name.
• 57:14
  He is the CEO of Techlium.
• 57:17
  Jason, thank you so much for coming on the program and uh sharing your knowledge on artificial intelligence.
• 57:22
  I really do appreciate it.
• 57:24
  I would love to have you back sometime.
• 57:25
  Sure, thank you.
• 57:26
  It's my pleasure.
• 57:27
  There is only one truth.
• 57:29
  You've been listening to The Truth Be Told with Booker Scott on America Out Loud.