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- 0:13Now let's get to this week's show.
- 0:23My wallet is sobbing. I can hear it.
- 0:26I can hear it in the hall. Now it is breaking down crying.
- 0:35It turns out that Attila the arrogant so and so he's got a
- 0:39fake hammer. Oh.
- 0:41A fake? Whoa.
- 0:43As I say, Dick. So welcome to episode 65 of the
- 0:54Early Agents Podcast, and this week we're going to dive deeper
- 0:58into version twos. What version twos?
- 1:01We'd like to come up once we think are going to come.
- 1:04And we're going to try and take a hand at Predict predicting the
- 1:09next figure, Obscura, which we think, judging by the way things
- 1:13have been done over the last while, it might be pretty soon
- 1:17that we see a figure Obscura coming.
- 1:19So again, no inside info at all. We are the Uranus podcast.
- 1:23We haven't got a clue. So this is purely speculation.
- 1:30And that is Malcolm Kennedy, one of my Co hosts.
- 1:33How are you, Matt? I am all good.
- 1:36Thank you. Yeah, have the kids stop
- 1:38screaming outside. The occasional bit of noise.
- 1:42It's all good to tell. Good for.
- 1:43Throwing a ball at my window. Yes.
- 1:45Oh, Oh yeah. To be the cranky old man, Yeah.
- 1:49That was the game was starting all up, my bathroom window and.
- 1:52Oh, no. OK, OK.
- 1:54No, if it was on purpose, then that's not good.
- 1:56Yeah, it was just an accident. Yeah, we used to.
- 1:59I feel still feel like it's only yesterday I was the guy doing
- 2:02the kick in the ball, but now yeah, and Rich who are.
- 2:08You. I am tickety.
- 2:09Boo. Yeah.
- 2:11This is the gerbil. The gerbil's still healthy.
- 2:16Good. That's great to hear.
- 2:16Some may say a little too healthy.
- 2:18There's a bit of a tub going on there.
- 2:20It has to be. I think he's come for eating,
- 2:21having lost his his butt. Yeah, I can imagine, of course.
- 2:24And I suppose you've had to reduce the amount of food.
- 2:28Quite dramatically, because he really is a little fat.
- 2:30So and so, OK, it's like Kerry picked him up with my wife and
- 2:33she was just like, look at the rolls of fat around his neck.
- 2:36Oh my God, it's like a hamster, not a gerbil.
- 2:39So yes. So his food is being cut right
- 2:41back. Oh yeah.
- 2:43It's like everyone, I think everyone that follows our show
- 2:45knows I have cats and we have 4. And I'm kind of so happy that
- 2:49the weather is getting better because there's less in the in
- 2:52the cat box because during the midwinter it's like, you know,
- 2:55it's a rough station, empty in the cat boxes.
- 2:58Every day there's three cat boxes, you know, down in the
- 3:01basement. So we don't have to at least
- 3:02suffer them during the day, so to speak.
- 3:05But yeah, yeah, not fun, not fun.
- 3:08So yeah, they can go outside, you know, of course, not in
- 3:11other people's gardens, but you know, find somewhere under the
- 3:15hedges or something, nobody's going to care about that.
- 3:20And. Grateful anyway.
- 3:22Exactly. It's biodegradable songs.
- 3:26I don't have to touch it in in the meantime or accidentally
- 3:30touch it, although I don't do much gardening, let's be honest,
- 3:32that's more my wife's hobby. So yeah.
- 3:36I made the mistake during down the garden barefoot the other
- 3:38day and I came back in and I suddenly went, what is that?
- 3:41And looked down and I'd suddenly let the pigeon poo.
- 3:43Oh so my bare feet were covered in pigeon poo.
- 3:46So just. Like, it's like, do you ever,
- 3:50Did you ever have a bird's poo on you like accident?
- 3:55I have once, yeah. Who's on the way to work
- 3:57conference and it shouted down me at the stake so so that was
- 4:01fun. So I was trying to wipe my
- 4:02shirt, like going, oh brilliant, here we go.
- 4:04And you had to continue about your day.
- 4:05You had to. Continue.
- 4:06There's no going home to get changed.
- 4:08It was. Supposed to be good luck,
- 4:09although I don't see how. Somebody.
- 4:12Yeah. It's that's a most.
- 4:13Ridiculous statement. Ever.
- 4:15Yeah, it is. And I Oh yeah, I had a very fun
- 4:20thing this week. I had an injection in my
- 4:23shoulder because they finally found out where the pain in my
- 4:26shoulder was coming from. And when I'm getting a pain down
- 4:29my arm and why I have been kind of haven't been able to play
- 4:32golf or anything like that. And when I lift things at a
- 4:35certain angle, they suddenly lose power.
- 4:37So it's the joint right up here in the top of my shoulder, kind
- 4:41of at the front, even though the pain is at the back.
- 4:44So, you know, that's why I had to have an MRI because they
- 4:46could be sticking needles all in the back of my shoulder.
- 4:48They wouldn't have hit the right spot.
- 4:51Yeah. And it's in the joint.
- 4:52There was inflamed and it was touching into the muscle and
- 4:55then just causing kind of inflammation around it and then
- 4:59obviously the nerve gets touched there as well.
- 5:02So but thankfully no surge shoulder surgery Internet that
- 5:05needed. So that was good.
- 5:07My doctor was very happy about that.
- 5:09So yeah, so I've had an injection yesterday and he said
- 5:13I could be a bit red faced for a couple of days.
- 5:15So you know, if I am a little bit red faced, it's not because
- 5:17I've been eating too many fried foods and at least that's my
- 5:24excuse. And yeah, hopefully might have
- 5:27to get a second injection if it's not quite cleared up, but I
- 5:29think that should be the hope, most of it.
- 5:31So and that's since Legions con last year, this flared up
- 5:34basically after the flight back. So yeah, that's just such a
- 5:40pain, you know? Yeah.
- 5:42But if anyone sees your legions con and you're looking red, very
- 5:44red faced this year, obviously you just had another injection.
- 5:47It's nothing to do with the proximity of the Irish bar.
- 5:50Or Rich has just stabbed me for annoying them in the room.
- 5:54Kind of flushed up a bit. I've just opened a couple of
- 5:58figures just to wind you up when you're just like furious.
- 6:04And actually, we do get unwell, so I don't think we even need to
- 6:08fake this podcast, which is probably one of the best things
- 6:11and cool so. Say yes, we get.
- 6:17You're supposed to read it. You're supposed to read it.
- 6:19Better than that. Sorry.
- 6:21Yeah, this is how well scripted this is.
- 6:23Yeah, it's just like that. Yeah.
- 6:25When Johnson and then another little thing to announce for our
- 6:28patrons. I have the pins so in the baggy
- 6:31should take it out in the baggy. Go check out our YouTube if you
- 6:35want to see this. Although I have posted this for
- 6:38the patrons as well, making lovely bag noises here.
- 6:41Everyone loves that. Just trying to do an impression
- 6:43of bridge. So there they are.
- 6:45I've gone. We've gone with the black
- 6:47background. It's a kind of a gold metallic
- 6:50with white and yellow lettering for the words.
- 6:54And then it's kind of this goldish metallic on the back
- 6:56with the QR code. That still doesn't quite work,
- 6:59but I wasn't going to pay more money to get something else on
- 7:04the back there because it would have been having to be retooled
- 7:07again. So it's like OK with just chats
- 7:10around, it's not that important. What you said, that Lady sounds
- 7:13quite scary, he said. Don't don't angry, just.
- 7:15She's lovely, She's lovely. It's just a little bit of, it's
- 7:18a little bit of language barrier in addition to, you know,
- 7:22talking to anyone over emails, last messenger, you know, and
- 7:27she has a time difference obviously to US of eight hours.
- 7:31So you kind of get the messages and then suddenly they stop and
- 7:34then eight hours later you have to try and pick up the
- 7:36conversation again and they're talking about terms that you
- 7:40don't really understand, like electroplating.
- 7:42And I'm like, does that cost more?
- 7:44No. OK.
- 7:45Well, let's see if that, you know, because I was talking
- 7:48about getting the metallic effect, you know and obviously
- 7:51that's how they do the metallic effect.
- 7:52So yeah, so anyway got there in the end, but you know, as it
- 7:58wasn't a huge time pressure on these, but yeah, we'll try and
- 8:01get them out. I would imagine the listeners
- 8:06this side of the Atlantic might get them a little bit earlier
- 8:08than the others. So that's what we see.
- 8:10I'm probably going to try and hook up with somebody in the
- 8:14States to ship them all to and get them to ship, UH to our
- 8:19listeners around America because uh, I think shipping a small
- 8:24envelope will cost a lot from here compared to UH there.
- 8:28So yeah, let's see what we can do with that.
- 8:32And obviously Rich and Mal will distribute to our few UK viewers
- 8:35and I will do Europa. So anyway, enough of the
- 8:39logistics. Did you boys see UH Legions
- 8:42lounge this week where they had this UH fun show, I think the
- 8:457th. Let me say yes, but I've
- 8:48forgotten what they discussed. You haven't caught up yet.
- 8:51You know you. You're not.
- 8:52We're not looking. At watching your boys don't.
- 8:54Worry we're not a. Lot of content.
- 8:56Yeah, exactly. It's hard to keep up, but we
- 8:59understand that ourselves with our show, so they do.
- 9:01Everyone needs to. Realizes I've been watching a
- 9:04lot of Stargate SG-1 the last few weeks, so everything else in
- 9:09my life, family, everything, has to fit around the XG one
- 9:12episodes, so. If anyone of our patrons wants
- 9:16us to do a Stargate SG-1 Patron episode where Rich just educates
- 9:21me about it, feel free to drop a message and we'll see what we
- 9:27can do in that. Right, Rich.
- 9:29No problem at all. I'm 3/4 the way through through
- 9:32Series 9 so. Yeah, there you go.
- 9:33So I'll just, it'll just be wind him up and let him go.
- 9:37We can ask. I'll try and find the dumbest
- 9:38questions to ask you like, you know, so who's the main
- 9:42character, right. So they did a draft, which I
- 9:47think, Rich, you are very familiar with the whole draft
- 9:49thing because you're big into your NFL and I don't know if you
- 9:53play fantasy football in the American sense of it.
- 9:57I don't. I play in the UK.
- 9:59Science I don't think or not and.
- 10:00Apparently they they also do, or at least I think most of it's
- 10:04online now. But previously used to be get a
- 10:07bunch of friends over and you'd have a draft kind of where
- 10:10everyone would kind of write it down on a sheet and stuff.
- 10:12So it is a big traditional thing and they have divided all the
- 10:18all the basically positions. They've met a kind of a team.
- 10:22So they've done a leader, a mount, a weapon, a right hand
- 10:25man, a fighter, a thief, a mage, muscle troop and spirit.
- 10:28And then they took turns in picking them and obviously if
- 10:33one is picked, you can't pick it.
- 10:34So you know, a lot of fun. They had a great show.
- 10:37And I just wanted to bring up one little thing about our
- 10:39friend Trevor, which was that he's not too happy every time he
- 10:45listens to our intro. And I know this because he has
- 10:48mentioned it to us and you know, all in good fun.
- 10:50You know, he's not going to hold it too much against this.
- 10:52You know, it's a funny quote from the show.
- 10:54You know, I said, Trevor, you go back to the show and get me a
- 10:56couple of more funny quotes. Could be hard to come by and and
- 11:01I'll throw it in there instead but you know that never
- 11:04happened. So we're stuck with you know our
- 11:06slagging off of Attila which is all good.
- 11:09But Trevor picked Atlas as his leader.
- 11:13I mean what do we have to say about that?
- 11:15I mean, Atlas is basically the, you know, he's a mortal enemy
- 11:19now of. Attila but it's good that he's
- 11:21admitted that he is better. Yeah.
- 11:25Which is which? Is really like you know it's
- 11:27really ramen our point home. You know about Tiller basically.
- 11:31And then he actually in the in the kind of going backwards and
- 11:36forwards about who he picked. He actually was going to pick
- 11:38our there first which is the direct opponent of Dilla.
- 11:44So yeah, and then falling right in line with our fake hammer
- 11:50theory. Slash, not, not a theory.
- 11:54He picked the Heaven's Brand sword.
- 11:55So, you know, yeah. There you go again, admitting
- 11:59it's a fake hammer and that's all there is to it.
- 12:02It's useless. A bit like Attila, yeah.
- 12:12Correct. About, let's be honest.
- 12:14And then his favorite, I think out of the army of the Odysseus
- 12:19when I remember him talking about it before, and maybe even
- 12:21talked to when he was on with us.
- 12:23One of the times is Adriana, and yet he picked Magnus.
- 12:28He got a bit of stick for that from Curtis, yeah, yeah.
- 12:32And I mean proper order Curtis. So basically he's picked
- 12:36Adriana's underling and in turn has admitted that Jacqueline
- 12:41Magnus is better. So I think he's closed there.
- 12:44On Trevor, you can move along, yeah.
- 12:47He's outed himself. Yeah, it's like Rich and he's
- 12:51two point O bodies. Yeah.
- 12:57So there you go Trevor. We would, we will definitely
- 13:00won't steal this idea from your wonderful show, but we would
- 13:04love to be on someday and do a draft with you.
- 13:08So I know six people might be a lot but could be fun.
- 13:15But yeah, and I'm sure they'll do it with some other guests as
- 13:18well as and goes on so really cool and I hope they maybe try
- 13:23and introduce some sort of point system or you know some sort of
- 13:28restrictions or budget or something that would be that
- 13:31would really level it up. But seems to have gone down
- 13:33really well. I've seen a lot of posts in the
- 13:35community about this. So all I have to say is, sorry,
- 13:41we didn't think of it first time.
- 13:43It is a really good idea. Although it is, it is more of an
- 13:47American tradition, so they were much always more likely to to
- 13:51think of it before us, which is good and.
- 13:54Writing good I'm more of a British Irish line and just say
- 13:58we'll pick with Allegiance characters to queue, stand by in
- 14:03the queue. Who would be the loudest person
- 14:05in the queue? Who would be the most annoying
- 14:06and the most smelly first? Who would take off and try and
- 14:09push in? Yeah, that sort of stuff, you
- 14:10know. And then we're talking to it, we
- 14:12talking Marks and Spencer's queues or Tesco queues or.
- 14:15Yeah, we're talking. To you maybe?
- 14:17Yeah, say it was the worst. Oh, that's.
- 14:21That's my God Christmas say, OK, I remember being in a
- 14:25supermarket once on Christmas Eve.
- 14:26I don't know why. I think somebody had forgotten
- 14:28something and you literally had to queue to go down the aisle.
- 14:31You know, I need some chicken stock.
- 14:33It's like, Oh yeah, twenty person queue down the chicken
- 14:37stock. I did it.
- 14:39I did it once, many moons ago. We went midnight, stroking
- 14:42midnight on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day, No Christmas Eve.
- 14:48And they opened an M&S Food Place at midnight.
- 14:52And yeah, you just couldn't move.
- 14:53It was people, like throwing old people out of the way to get
- 14:56food. It's madness.
- 14:58Yeah, it's crazy. Anyway, let's move on to, UH,
- 15:02part one of the main event of the of the show, right?
- 15:12So the way that we have divided this up is, uh, we're talking
- 15:16about version two figures. So we'll talk about maybe a bit
- 15:19about why and I don't know if anyone has any ideas what they'd
- 15:24like something to do in the version twos, but we certainly
- 15:26will do a little bit of predicting and what we want and
- 15:29et cetera, et cetera. And and Mal was the first one
- 15:32done with his homework. So he had the structure of what
- 15:36what does he think is definitely going to come this year in the
- 15:39near future and what does he really want.
- 15:42And so we followed that structure for all three of us.
- 15:46And as man was first done with his homework, we have his what
- 15:50he thinks we'll definitely get this here, and why.
- 15:52And some of these surprised me. Mal have to say, not not your
- 15:55first one, but the other two. Actually, I was quite surprised.
- 15:59They might be a bit of, yeah. I mean they might be a bit sort
- 16:02of wide of the mark or I could have been you.
- 16:06Know that's not a problem we nobody's going to check.
- 16:10That way. But yeah, so also, I feel like
- 16:15that's got to be a given for this year.
- 16:18It feels like the perfect year for it.
- 16:20It's become such an iconic figure in a way, you know it's
- 16:24one of the cult as close you get in the little community to a
- 16:28cult favorite, you know, and I feel like it's, it's more
- 16:34probable than us getting a dragon, quite honestly, this
- 16:37year. Yeah.
- 16:39And I'd be down with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 16:42Same same and then the other two it was a bit of a wild swing
- 16:47based on it was funny that well it feels like it's been a little
- 16:55while since we've we've gotten elves again now it's it's sort
- 16:58of you know we're the what was it last sort of elves were were
- 17:05well they were the War of the Ether Blade elves but before
- 17:08that it was the ones in the Elithia and the yeah.
- 17:12Wave. No, at least not a Lithia was
- 17:17salt. Spiller was the one previous to
- 17:19that with the Elf Shadow Elf Ranger.
- 17:24That just mean. I just mean getting our body
- 17:26characters, OK, any sort of elf characters.
- 17:30The Lithia and. Oh, that's right.
- 17:32Yeah, we had Artemis and other guys.
- 17:34Yeah, Artemis. And it just seemed funny that.
- 17:39I know they said they kept it to the more simple ones, you know,
- 17:42there was that shared parts and that sort of thing.
- 17:45But that's part of the reason I went with these two is because
- 17:48they could actually do. They had the Elf Ranger and the
- 17:52Elf warrior, and they had the Dark Elf Ranger and the Dark Elf
- 17:55Warrior. Yeah, it would make sense that
- 17:58then these two could somewhat share parts.
- 18:01And in fact, I actually did think they had the same head,
- 18:03but they don't. And who were these two then?
- 18:06Sorry, yes, this is Malachi, Cinderhorn and Lord Aiden.
- 18:11There you go. And they're both.
- 18:12Figures. Have, yeah.
- 18:14And they're both, if you read their BIOS are quite central
- 18:18characters. They've, you know, Lord Aiden
- 18:20particularly is the advisor to Artemis.
- 18:26Malachi is basically the ruler of the Dark Elves.
- 18:31Quite, quite a good, quite a big job, I'd say.
- 18:34Yeah, yeah. So yeah it was just putting a
- 18:39few things together and and and then as I said whilst I think
- 18:43they're quite left field, they actually feel like they'd really
- 18:49they did work this year you know and what would what could you do
- 18:54to prove them would you keep this what would you do?
- 18:57Well both of them, well I mean Malachi is going to be more soft
- 19:01goods to fit in with the because he's a member of Poxus Circle of
- 19:06Poxus. So again put me a bit more in
- 19:09line with the with the recent Wizards, although it being a bit
- 19:15more of a warrior as well. You kind of want to keep the
- 19:18leather armour, but we're getting some new leather arm or
- 19:21aren't we coming out in the Noble Bear wave and and of
- 19:25course that's not beyond them, to completely redesign and
- 19:28create new parts for version twos and then Lord Aiden, whilst
- 19:36again he's a bit more of a warrior elf.
- 19:38Perhaps. With him being a bit more regal
- 19:40and a bit more, you know, a bit more in that would be in the
- 19:44court of sort of the regal court.
- 19:46Maybe he could do a few soft goods a bit slightly better,
- 19:49soft goods which would differentiate them a bit, whilst
- 19:54I could see them sharing parts as I say.
- 19:58You could do a better ankles anyway, Isn't that right, Rich
- 20:00that? Wouldn't be difficult, let's be
- 20:03honest. I had him in the yoga pose on a
- 20:05bunch of stones on my display at some stage because he just
- 20:08wouldn't stay up. And I thought, well, let's just
- 20:10put him chilling out, you know, I figure though.
- 20:13Hayden is is riding a stag so. He's no ankles required.
- 20:18Yeah, I think the face on these two is the same mall.
- 20:22It's just the headdress thing. It's not I.
- 20:25That's what I really as well. If you look close, Lord, I'll
- 20:28tell you what, the elves in the flock are all miserable buggers
- 20:31if you look at their face. Yeah, but Malachi's actually got
- 20:36a smirk on his face. Rather than.
- 20:39And that's not just the paint. No, no, no.
- 20:42I've said look at it. I'm a real girl.
- 20:45You've already looked again. Oh, you're right.
- 20:46Yeah, you're right. Wow.
- 20:48There you go. So.
- 20:50That was originally part of my thinking is.
- 20:51Not even out there. Same.
- 20:54Yeah, right. So yeah, that's my thinking
- 20:57behind them. Well, Jeremy let us know for for
- 21:00actually wrong but cool. So and more to say about these
- 21:07Rich shall we move on to yours and?
- 21:10Two of these were in my list as well.
- 21:12So yeah, I agree. I was surprised to see more more
- 21:17than Otto in your list, actually, of these two, so that
- 21:19was interesting to bring me. So here we go.
- 21:23So yeah, so I've gone for Otho again.
- 21:28Like Mal. I think it's an absolute shoe
- 21:30in. It'll be a dereliction of duty,
- 21:33dare I say by the horsemen if they don't really.
- 21:35So so Bush into this year I will be leading the pitch fork more
- 21:39but legions con. No I won't be.
- 21:42I'm not that fuss but I I think it will definitely be a A
- 21:45release. I still think we get him with a
- 21:48with an Herzog version two as well.
- 21:49I think Herzog is screaming for an update.
- 21:53It's a brilliant, I mean it's a great figure but you can give
- 21:55him. I think you've said before John
- 21:57like the faction shield maybe? I'd love to see him like a brute
- 22:00scale version, or even if he kept him as 1.0 he can give him
- 22:05fancier armour. It's a very basic head sculpt.
- 22:09Let's let's have a bit more of a cool face sculpt, maybe with a
- 22:13scar, you know, everybody loves an awkward scar, That's the way
- 22:17to go even maybe, and this would be really cool, like a visor
- 22:24that goes up. So you've got an orc helmeted
- 22:25head with a visor that goes up as well.
- 22:27That'd be cool, yeah. So that that would be good.
- 22:30And some sort of big ass, pardon my language weapon.
- 22:35So he comes with a sword, which is fine, but let's get let's get
- 22:37a club or a Mace, or, yeah, some sort of Grizzly Ork weapon.
- 22:41And. I still reckon as a 2 pack that
- 22:43would be a possibility, but I think the two choser pretty
- 22:47much. Would love if they did them as 2
- 22:49packs, you know, to maybe squeeze the most value for us
- 22:54and also for them in terms of the pricing.
- 22:57So yeah. Yeah, I mean without though I
- 23:00don't You need to do. I mean again it's very basic.
- 23:02So they'd probably update the soft goods.
- 23:04Yeah, I think he'd be, absolutely.
- 23:07Crest maybe on the check rather than just a plain like he's got
- 23:10at the moment. Didn't we say maybe they might
- 23:12do it like Gideon in terms of the soft goods over the?
- 23:17Yeah. Armor that.
- 23:19Would be a good look, yeah. I mean, they seem to be heading
- 23:20down that way now, don't they? So to continue that that would
- 23:24definitely be a good. I'd see a bit of moaning though
- 23:26if they did too much changes. From people, there's a bit of
- 23:29moan they could give out free money to the fans, yeah.
- 23:31Oh, yeah, yeah. That's not a reason not to do
- 23:34it. I'm just saying, you know.
- 23:36Eventually, everyone is the reality.
- 23:38They'd look at it and be like, actually, this is really good.
- 23:41And to be honest, anyone that wants to recreate the old one,
- 23:44you know, just get you have your head sculpt then for for a very
- 23:47good price and you can repaint the parts or you know it's very
- 23:54easily, it's just the the blue tabard and skirt piece isn't it?
- 23:59That's it. I mean realistically, like
- 24:01Atlas, Well, that's not true because there's more to Atlas,
- 24:04but the head is the most iconic, so it's the most it's.
- 24:09The real and rare piece. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 24:11You want, they want to whatever they do, they need to do what
- 24:14they did with this. Where I was going, remember this
- 24:16is like Atlas. Keep it very similar.
- 24:19But yeah, enough. Unless they feel it's fine as it
- 24:22is. Of course, Of course, yeah.
- 24:26Similar reasons to Mal. For Malachi, it's, you know, the
- 24:30the Shadow Elves are back. You know, they've they've redone
- 24:33runs of of two of them sort of thing.
- 24:35So it would make perfect sense to put him in.
- 24:37I'd want to see him with a really fancy cloak, not just
- 24:40like better soft good cloak, but like fur lined, like a proper
- 24:44regal sort of thing that comes across as that sort of arrogant
- 24:50so and so sort of thing so. Even like, almost like the
- 24:52Father Christmas type soft goods.
- 24:55Yeah, something like that. I could absolutely see him
- 24:57wearing something like that. And that would work, obviously.
- 24:59If they haven't, yeah, I'd. Be making more open, you know.
- 25:03Yeah. Don't need the belt maybe or
- 25:05something, yeah. I think he got a bigger crown.
- 25:08I think his crown at the moment is a bit too elvish.
- 25:10I think they might want to go away from that a little bit.
- 25:12So maybe some sparkly jewels in there as well.
- 25:16I mean, he's got a really good smirky face anyway, but an even
- 25:19more evil smoking face. TB would be great, yes?
- 25:23Maybe an evil cackle. Maybe one raised eyebrow.
- 25:28Or goatee for going. Really going to goatee?
- 25:33Twirly with twirly mustache. Yeah, maybe some sort of new
- 25:38adornment for top of his staff. So again, he's.
- 25:41A staff that you don't have to smash his hand open to.
- 25:45That staff will not stay in that hand.
- 25:48I was thinking maybe you should hold in the middle there, you
- 25:51know, where it gets thinner, but then it's too far down.
- 25:56Yeah, then he would stand up. Because in the official picture
- 25:59there they they don't have it there, so yeah.
- 26:03That was glued in for the official picture, let's be
- 26:05honest. Next up is Thord Iron Jaw.
- 26:11I think with the dwarf renaissance that we're having at
- 26:13the moment, I was debating whether a version two of Thord
- 26:18would look out of place with a version.
- 26:20The original version of both are being re released as part of All
- 26:25Stars. But I know, I think you know,
- 26:26just do a cool a cool Ford, go crazy with a beard.
- 26:30Let's get more braiding in. You know the dwarf parts.
- 26:35If it's if it's going to be a pre-order, then obviously they
- 26:38can use the new dwarf parts. Yes, absolutely.
- 26:42Or if they've gotten, you know, if they've got them tooled up
- 26:45already, they could always maybe release them a little bit
- 26:47earlier. Part of this I mean that could
- 26:50become con. Some new armored dwarf parts.
- 26:57I mean, there's again, again, when we're doing this, they do.
- 27:00When they're making their version twos, they do create new
- 27:03parts for them, so. And they have a trend now to
- 27:07maybe tool some extra stuff when they're tooling.
- 27:11Still, you know, new stuff. If they have a space and a tool
- 27:14that would otherwise go to waste, rather than wasting the
- 27:18big block of metal, they could tool up some stuff that they see
- 27:21in the future. So.
- 27:22Absolutely. Bit more of a gnarly weapon for
- 27:24him too, and some sort of cool dwarf shield.
- 27:28I think at the moment the Shields are very, I mean, I know
- 27:31there's a new one coming with the wrong sons thing obviously,
- 27:32and that's great. But I don't know, maybe some
- 27:35sort of really weird shaped shield, although that's probably
- 27:40the only character you could use it for.
- 27:41But I think that would be that would be good.
- 27:43Well, I can't. See with any ocean twos of
- 27:47dwarves, these unhelmeted heads and the helmeted head, because I
- 27:52think the dwarf heads are so fun when they're in helmeted.
- 27:55They sure are, yeah. Yeah, that would be great.
- 27:58And as Rich said, I'd be down for, she'd maybe a pure purely
- 28:03wooden one. I'd love to see their take on
- 28:05like a really kind of wooden shield, you know, even with a
- 28:10bit of damage on it or something, you know?
- 28:13It might be very specific, but might be worth it for a top tier
- 28:17character to yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
- 28:20Could he be the figure they give the the Noble Bear?
- 28:24I know we've got an equivalent of it, but something a bit more
- 28:28like the other Shields but for Noble Bear would would be that.
- 28:33Would you have a fancy shield like that there?
- 28:38Yeah, maybe not. He's a bit more of a battle.
- 28:40Unless his teeth were sharpened on it, he could just use it to
- 28:43slash people with the bear open. Bear Max, maybe that.
- 28:46Or maybe a battle damaged version of that shield, huh?
- 28:50Yeah, yeah, I like that. The next one I'm hoping we don't
- 28:55get, but I have a horrible feeling we will, which is Hera
- 28:57Serpent Spire. It's I give with one hand.
- 29:01I put her on my list. I take with another.
- 29:04I tell her. I say that I don't want her.
- 29:06Despite my supposed dislike of two point zeros, despite naming
- 29:11lots of them as my favorite figures in each wave and
- 29:14faction, she's really good figure.
- 29:16I don't see the need to to redo her.
- 29:19I think it would be a wasted space.
- 29:20There's other figures that you could do more with and make them
- 29:23much better than the original versions, so I think.
- 29:27We should be beneficiary of maybe a soft goods pack.
- 29:31She could, you know, if they were to ever do that.
- 29:34Yeah. Well, there's weapons pack now.
- 29:36I mean, the parks is weapon weapons packs.
- 29:39You could definitely get her stuff from there.
- 29:44But I think we will make her just purely because she's she's
- 29:46a faction leader, isn't she? So I think you're right.
- 29:49I I agree 100% with both of them.
- 29:51I think perhaps they could improve and make the hair a bit
- 29:54articulated or something like that.
- 29:56But yeah, I mean the original figure is she's so just a really
- 30:01pretty figure. It's, you know, little piece of
- 30:03art. It's a great figure and I will
- 30:08deny saying that if anyone says it because it's a 2.0 And then
- 30:13lastly Asterion, I think they need to and I hope they'd want
- 30:21to go brute scale. Oh, yes.
- 30:23But the minor source, you know, please, nothing wrong with 1.0
- 30:27minor source. I've got half a dozen custom
- 30:29ones in in my collection. But bigger is better for minor
- 30:33source sort of thing. So you know, brute scale.
- 30:37You know, they've got a lot of the parts already sort of thing.
- 30:41You could give him the fancy faction shield as well.
- 30:43There's no reason why not. Maybe a new axe?
- 30:46Like a big beefy axe, but like a newly designed beefy axe I think
- 30:50would be great. And now that we've had a chance
- 30:53to get the Silverhorn centuries that I think he's the he's the
- 30:57leader of, isn't he? So we'll have we'll be able to
- 31:02have him with his few extra. If anyone has, like me, got
- 31:07maybe two or four of them in the Last Reinforcements, then you'll
- 31:12have your Astarian at the front. Awesome.
- 31:15Yeah. So I'd love to see him and I
- 31:17think, I think there's a very good chance we'll get a big
- 31:20it'll be My wallet is sobbing. I.
- 31:24Can hear it in the hall now it is breaking down crying.
- 31:28I really wouldn't. I really wouldn't mind that body
- 31:31in you know the his style body sort of colours and tones in the
- 31:35inner a brute scale figure. So that would ask him if we got
- 31:40him and Can you imagine that just a huge cow head on.
- 31:43Yeah, sculpt. And you like a really angry
- 31:46looking cow head or? Yeah.
- 31:48And you've also got a great base body for making brute scale
- 31:50barbarian. You know, there's loads of great
- 31:52custom heads for that. You know that you could, you
- 31:56know the companies to start off for them, slightly sized up for
- 31:59the brute scales and where you go.
- 32:02Yeah, and they've shown me some of the sculpts too, that
- 32:05actually they work fine on the Brute.
- 32:07They do. It depends on the like.
- 32:08Some of the helmets especially seem to work quite well on the
- 32:12Brits game, yeah. Yeah.
- 32:14So I think we might get a six figure wave.
- 32:17Initially I was thinking, oh, we get like it doesn't, it's like,
- 32:19no, no, they don't want to outdo the G Con stuff.
- 32:22But I think a six figure wave would be small enough they could
- 32:24drop it into a gap in the schedule, give us something new
- 32:27rather than the All Stars, and yeah, blow our socks off.
- 32:31Yeah, I think that's fair because.
- 32:32We've got the wave. Yeah.
- 32:35Yeah. That's what I suppose that's why
- 32:36you've only kind of picked a few.
- 32:38But yeah, I think we've generally been getting 2A year
- 32:42anyway. So why not give us a wave of six
- 32:47or more? Yeah.
- 32:47I mean, I think, yeah, I'd love it if they did. 3-2 packs.
- 32:53It's funny, isn't it? Because when I was doing the two
- 32:55elves in my head, it was like it'd make quite a good two pack,
- 32:58because they're sort of the, the count the, you know, the
- 33:00opposites of each other in terms of the elves.
- 33:05Yeah, but you've got. Yeah, you could have Hera and
- 33:10Malachi here, and obviously Otto and Orzock, but the other two,
- 33:16they're in good factions, aren't they?
- 33:18It could be. It could be a buddy pack.
- 33:20Yeah, I'm done with. It's not, it's not an enemy's
- 33:22pack, It's it's, you know, drinking pals pack.
- 33:25Oh, let's go. In there as well, you know.
- 33:28Boom. Done.
- 33:30Legions can't drinking buddies pack.
- 33:32There you go. Right.
- 33:35Shall we move on to mine? And I think there's been a lot
- 33:38of crossover. I remember when I put these
- 33:40slides together, Rich, I don't mind and I didn't have to take
- 33:43too many away. And there we go.
- 33:46You see that Otto and Thord and Orzack are in the same place.
- 33:52I know when your message, man you did mention Ether on and
- 33:55Salona as kind of you were thinking probably going to get
- 33:59them. That's why I just put them in
- 34:02here. I wasn't sure if you wanted to
- 34:03include them in yours. And so I have as I said Otto
- 34:08Thord and Urzuk that Rich has covered and I think we agree
- 34:11with Sir Galleron is an interesting one.
- 34:15I think he's quite, it seems to me from his bio to be an
- 34:19important character, which is why I think it's worthwhile them
- 34:24revisiting them as a as a version two and giving us an
- 34:27alternative head and maybe a slightly different build in the
- 34:31armor. With all the new parts they have
- 34:33got now, this could. Be a chance, wouldn't it, to get
- 34:37that armor color in, which is obviously completely different
- 34:40to the one of the picture here because that doesn't represent
- 34:42it, but you know, just another cool armor color back in again.
- 34:46What sort of an unhelmitted head do you think he'd have?
- 34:48Would he be kind of quite mean looking or I'm.
- 34:53Trying to remember his bio. What does BIO say?
- 34:59Although Sir Galleron is one of Gideon's Heaven, Heaven's
- 35:02brand's most notable and heroic allies, there is a subtle
- 35:05darkness lurking beneath the surface.
- 35:08As a Spearman and standard bearer in the Ethereum army, he
- 35:12inevitably seeks to be on the front lines in every battle.
- 35:16Galleron is fuelled not only by his innate goodness, but by an
- 35:20unquenchable thirst for revenge against those responsible for
- 35:23mysterious events in his troubled past.
- 35:26So if there's a hint of evil, then clearly a goatee with an
- 35:30unhelmeted hair. I'm pointy.
- 35:33Goatee evil pointy goatee stare straight away.
- 35:36Yeah. Or maybe like a scarred head.
- 35:38Maybe missing. Like it it.
- 35:41I don't get too Game of Thronesy sort of thing, but you know,
- 35:43something's happened in the past where he's like missing part of
- 35:45his hair, like the hound, whatever sort of thing.
- 35:47And Oh yeah, scarred look at something went completely wrong.
- 35:49I'd love, I'd love, you know, bald, but you know around the
- 35:55back and sides a bit of hairs. You know that kind of ball.
- 36:00Yeah. Yeah.
- 36:01It's gonna say rich. But you know, that's combined
- 36:04with the goals he would be, would be pretty.
- 36:07When you were saying it, I thought you meant.
- 36:09For mutton chops, Rich it could be a rich it could be a rich
- 36:11Jones Facebook profile tribute. And that's what's so mysterious
- 36:16about. With a slightly purple tinge in
- 36:20the eyes and the iris of the eyes, that'd be perfect.
- 36:25Cool. Yeah.
- 36:26So lots of fun we had there with Sir Galleron and like a lot of
- 36:31the Ethan characters, great figures in a sucky faction.
- 36:37And yeah, so the other two then are heavy hitters.
- 36:41Uh. I mean, Ethan is the leader of
- 36:44Ethan and Zylonas the leader of Zelena's flock.
- 36:48I think that they. I mean ether on.
- 36:50The main problem with him is that he's not available.
- 36:53And you know as. You look very low, 1234 only.
- 36:59And at a price that would be, you know, good for most
- 37:05collectors. And as Ilona, well, OK, she
- 37:08mightn't be very available now, but she was definitely available
- 37:10for much longer than ether on and is more plentiful out there
- 37:13and probably still isn't close to the either on level.
- 37:17But you know, and she's not a great figure to be honest.
- 37:22There's something about her I she's.
- 37:24Cool to look at. You know, she's cool to look at
- 37:27and she's, I'm delighted to have her, but I didn't get her in my
- 37:30original order. I got her in the big bad restock
- 37:33very early in because by that stage I'd been reading the lore
- 37:36and I was like, OK, I'm really not very smart that I haven't
- 37:41picked up the leader of a faction that's kind of
- 37:43relatively available, you know? So I was like, right, got to get
- 37:47her and yeah, she's cool, but still doesn't really stand out
- 37:54compared to she wouldn't see her as the leader.
- 37:56When you see her on the show, maybe the horns help, but yeah.
- 38:01You know what would work for a John and I've said it before on
- 38:03the show swept back battle antler I'll.
- 38:08Tell you what, get down with that.
- 38:10Literally just pushes a bat and goes bring it, here we go.
- 38:12I would love when you get down with that.
- 38:14I definitely don't if they, yeah, I mean you could do, you
- 38:18could do a customizer job and you know Dremel in the head and
- 38:22you know, because those answers are kind of go in with a little,
- 38:25it's almost like a little flat kind of piece.
- 38:28It's not round. It's kind of flat.
- 38:31And you could maybe fill in the current peg and kind of drill
- 38:34out one that makes them go back. I don't know how those answers
- 38:37would look going back, or even reverse them.
- 38:40I don't know how they look backward the wrong way.
- 38:42Maybe they look. But I think, yeah, you'd prefer
- 38:45the answers to be all a little bit bent backwards, all the
- 38:48little individual strands of the wood.
- 38:50Yeah. Or the horns or whatever.
- 38:53Yeah. So she's great.
- 38:55I mean, she comes with, of course, the the silver cord bow,
- 38:59which is awesome in a slightly different, uh, paint up to what
- 39:02you get with Artemis. Uh, too.
- 39:05And so that's sweet. And uh, yeah, you get great
- 39:09weapons with the, you get those two.
- 39:11Umm, what they like scimitars that kind of go together.
- 39:14Yeah. And a nice sword.
- 39:17It's again the standard kind of big sword that a lot of figures
- 39:20have, like there is up there in the other picture and of course
- 39:24you get the the quiver for the Bose, so.
- 39:30She's certainly well armed. Yeah, yes, you get a lot of
- 39:33stuff. Like a lot of the figures now
- 39:34Evan indicate you were not shortchanged accessories
- 39:37whatsoever. Consider, I mean OK Erzog's got
- 39:40a really cool painted shield there, but he's got the sword
- 39:43and alternate head. I mean that's going to be
- 39:46there's going to be more than that in a version two toward has
- 39:49got what sword pauldrons they were.
- 39:55You know that was back when they counted the pauldrons as kind of
- 39:57really as the accessories. I know they still do but you
- 40:00know nobody cans them now right. We good with the.
- 40:07I'm. Sorry.
- 40:09Yeah, go, go. Rich, one of you.
- 40:11I'd say the one thing I would say is that I don't think we'll
- 40:14see Throne and Siloaner this year because I think.
- 40:16Oh, interesting. Tell us why, I think.
- 40:18They'll bring them out the same time as Lee Odysseus and.
- 40:21Oh, you think it'll be in? So I'm sort of the same as that,
- 40:25but I think it'll they'll all be in the same year.
- 40:28I think they'll lead waves like the Horseman did, but the waves
- 40:33will be done in the same format. I think they'll be like the,
- 40:37what do you call it, kind of the star character of the wave kind
- 40:40of thing. Would that not be the gods, the
- 40:43the four kind of good gods? I think that's another thing
- 40:46altogether. That's another year of waves.
- 40:53I hope that I don't lead waves because that will just mean
- 40:55we're getting the same factions against each other, so.
- 40:59By by waves, I really just mean, you know, a selection of the
- 41:02figures from that. Yeah, I don't necessarily mean
- 41:04in the same format as we have had just.
- 41:08I wouldn't mind leading leaders. In which case I'm fine lizard
- 41:16lizards. Have taken over.
- 41:17Silona lizard men that are holy ether on it's just like, yeah,
- 41:21there we go. Have you got your Savage
- 41:23Crucible Lizards? Not yet.
- 41:27They could slightly off, No, they've mine was.
- 41:29I was going to say mine was big order.
- 41:31There's only 14 figures. I wouldn't say naturally it was
- 41:33a big order, but. Did you get all insurance or?
- 41:36I went and all in and then a fair few duplicates, mouth
- 41:39shaking his face at me. Hey, it was a different time.
- 41:42It was a different time, yeah. Anything, anything turning up on
- 41:45the Jones 1234 for our listeners?
- 41:49Hopefully not because I've got 11 more and keep them more, but
- 41:52they decided to split the big orders into smaller parcels.
- 41:56So instead of sending all the figures together, I have four
- 41:58separate parcels coming my way. Which is crazy quite frankly.
- 42:04And it's going to cost me more money because I'll get I'll pay
- 42:07slightly less and import VAT, but I'll get hit with a £12.50
- 42:12handling fee for the three lots or cop and import fee.
- 42:15So that's a bit Fris, I mean, not the end of the world, but a
- 42:17little bit frustrating. There's something that happened
- 42:20to me. Sorry to but yeah so I set up
- 42:25automatic billing on FedEx ages ago if you remember.
- 42:29I then had a couple of issues where they were double billing
- 42:31me, then this later I had the parcel from Big Bad.
- 42:36They haven't billed me automatically.
- 42:41I'm still waiting for the bill on my reinforcements order that
- 42:46I've received two months ago and I just got the bill for my Pox's
- 42:50delivery, which was a month before that.
- 42:52So that's how it works. So, yeah, that's well, no,
- 42:55that's how they're just slow with the billing.
- 42:58Well, they've, they've sent me, you know, they sent me the thing
- 43:01going, oh, you've got duties to pay.
- 43:02But I didn't pay it because I was like, well, I'll pay it and
- 43:05then they'll. Take the money of a centre of
- 43:07the bill, yeah. Anyway, sorry Rich, no.
- 43:11No, that's fine. I was just going to say from the
- 43:13feedback I've seen though so far for Savage Crucible then they're
- 43:16going to be throwing themselves off the shelves like the 2.0
- 43:18mythics do. So.
- 43:19Yeah, there's a bit of Billy from door.
- 43:21Claire has a great review today of one of the figures.
- 43:25And yeah, I don't like the aesthetic with the double
- 43:28shoulders and stuff, but it's personal preference.
- 43:30So I can't say that they didn't do anything wrong there.
- 43:34I mean, they obviously built a figure that they wanted.
- 43:37The toe thing is ridiculous. I don't would not a fan of that
- 43:40at all. I do understand that it's good
- 43:43for getting in other poses, but I've never had figures to where
- 43:46that hasn't been a problem. You know, I'm never still.
- 43:51Sorry, Rich, I was. Going to say it's such a small
- 43:53joint with the toes, isn't it? That you can't make it strong
- 43:56enough to be able to move it and hold a pose, it seems, but
- 43:59companies still try. Yeah, and also the most
- 44:03interesting thing about the whole thing is the few former
- 44:07disgruntled Legions fans who I wonder who paid in their
- 44:10conflicts or what the story is. Maybe some, if you DM me, if you
- 44:13really want to give me the other side of the story because I'm
- 44:17really interested, I don't really care, You know, that's
- 44:19your own business. But there is a few buys in that
- 44:21group that are just so happy when someone says I'm selling
- 44:24legions. Or does anyone want to trade
- 44:26Legions against savage crews? Like it's like like it's like a
- 44:29victory for them. You know it's a little it's it's
- 44:32very sad you know so but you know this is the way the world
- 44:39and again shipping notices post this is everywhere.
- 44:41This is not allegiance thing. Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely.
- 44:45Yeah, yeah. Well if anyone wants to have a
- 44:48moan about shipping prices, that's £5 to ship.
- 44:51Two figures from about ship, one figure or 10 figures or from
- 44:55Savage Cruz websites. And and #3.
- 45:01And it's not hard. If you're going to do a live
- 45:04stream to promote your toy line basic sound, come on, you know,
- 45:09you don't have to have creamy, beautiful, you know,
- 45:12professional podcast sound, but, like, not the kind of potato
- 45:17stuff that was on their last live streams.
- 45:19Awful. And I know somebody coming to
- 45:22done it and I know that the guy was like, oh, I'm sorry it was
- 45:25me, blah, blah, blah. But like, just don't do it.
- 45:27Then don't be on the thing you know.
- 45:31Don't bring down the other guys you know, because that's all it
- 45:34takes. If one of if one of us has a bad
- 45:36connection or a bad sound, it ruins the whole show for
- 45:40everyone, no matter what everyone is saying, you know.
- 45:42Well, you're a monster, Jones. You just cut.
- 45:44Me all out? Yeah, come on.
- 45:46It's completely like, yeah, no. It's like we want people to
- 45:50listen to us. You know, this is, this is the
- 45:53whole purpose of the shows, for people to listen to us.
- 45:55You know, like if I want to sell beer, the number one thing I'm
- 45:58going to do is if the beer tastes nice, it doesn't matter
- 46:01if it's free. If it tastes like absolute
- 46:03garbage, people will be like, maybe, you know, just, you know,
- 46:07you'll just be selling it to people that are Alcoholics.
- 46:10And we don't want that. We want to include everybody.
- 46:13And right. So anyway, with that slight
- 46:16diversion, are we done with this year for for all of us, Yep.
- 46:22What we're thinking now obviously we could get more, we
- 46:25could get less, we could get none as we've said before.
- 46:28Then we went on to what we think might come soon or you know so
- 46:32within the next year or two what what are the other version twos
- 46:35that are possibly in the pipeline.
- 46:37And 1st Mal these are the, this is I've taken all these pictures
- 46:44from the website and I know a lot of them are pre.
- 46:46Trevor And that kind of shows you how some of these need to be
- 46:50maybe version to the picture of Carpathias.
- 46:54It's ridiculous. I'm not sure you could do
- 46:56anything with Carpathias, you look better.
- 47:01The sword, I don't know. Put it down.
- 47:03Touching the floor, I don't know.
- 47:04He looks so boring he may as well be wearing a cardigan
- 47:07reading a newspaper. Yeah, I mean, that's it, isn't
- 47:10it? Carpathias has got to be God.
- 47:14I mean, I don't know what you do with him, but he's got to be in
- 47:17there for a version 2 because I think, I don't know, I'd be
- 47:21interested to hear what people at the studio thought of him
- 47:25because he's just. I would if an opportunity came
- 47:29up to get him for like, you know, retail price, I'd get him
- 47:32just to add him to the collection.
- 47:34But he's so boring to any of the other vampires.
- 47:41The rest of them is so cool. But his his bio just refreshed
- 47:45the bio in my head now. And it sucks about him, you
- 47:47know, paralyzing his victims with a poisoned tip blade and
- 47:50then slowly draining him alive. So you know you want a proper
- 47:54evil head sculpt, not one that looks like he's bored to be
- 47:56there. Dirty.
- 47:58Yeah, Yeah. Open that mouth carpet to you.
- 48:01It's not just not just like a smile make.
- 48:04Goatee because he's pure evil. I know it's not something they
- 48:08like to do, but maybe he's the one that could have a bit of
- 48:10blood around his mouth. As if he's just feasted or even
- 48:15just a poison tipped sword, you know?
- 48:18Yeah, yeah. Or Dagger.
- 48:20Or whatever it may. Dagger more likely if you know
- 48:23if they're going to be doing a bit sneaky.
- 48:26Or maybe you could have like a Talon glove, like Talon finger
- 48:30glove with poison on the end of those, so you like swipes his
- 48:34victim and then. And of course, I think vampires
- 48:38like carpetius, if they're going to be done the version two, I
- 48:40think the more duban slash valiant night, that type of
- 48:44torsos size. Yes, yeah, that's definitely.
- 48:48Still 1.0 but is thinner and not as bulky and a bit more and
- 48:55obviously if he had the arms like the Valiant Night as well
- 48:58he'd be, he'd be able to move a lot more.
- 49:00I give put him in a lot more cool articulated poses, So be
- 49:04sweet. Yep.
- 49:08Obviously got Herzog. There's all the same sorts of
- 49:11things Rich there to have. So let's just sort of, yeah,
- 49:13yeah, he's a given at some point.
- 49:16Yeah. Yeah.
- 49:17Queen Ox. I just feel like she's another
- 49:20one that they could be, they could do keep the head not
- 49:24available and they could do with a revisit.
- 49:26Yeah, yeah. Keep the head and kind of jazz
- 49:30up the rest of her stuff. Yeah, yeah.
- 49:32As I say, I'd love to see her in scale.
- 49:35Bone armor. Yeah, yeah, that'd be cool that.
- 49:39'D be good. 1.0 scale too would be much.
- 49:42Better. Yeah.
- 49:42Yeah, we talked. About this, the kind of Navy
- 49:44scale, shall we say it's 1.0, but you know, female.
- 49:48With not having many female orcs, it's not like they're
- 49:52opening a can of worms. Even if they do that, are they?
- 49:55She's literally the only female orc at this point.
- 49:57So, well, the Legion. Builder as well.
- 50:00Oh yeah, yeah. Sorry, but they're named
- 50:02character. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 50:04And it actually worked better. If the grunts are a bit
- 50:07scrawnier and she's a bit bigger in that respect, yeah, let's go
- 50:13over to Faunus. He's again, he's one of the best
- 50:20head sculpts that exists. He's one of the best sort of
- 50:23cool looking characters already, but he he would not benefit from
- 50:28a bit of shrugging up at this point.
- 50:31He's one of those that's looking a little bit dated.
- 50:33Yeah, I mean The funny thing. Sorry, Mel.
- 50:38Yeah. Go on, I want you.
- 50:40He's one of the ones that came in the mystery box that if
- 50:43somebody was looking to trade him for a figure that I had kind
- 50:46of, you know, from the last mistake a few waves ago that I
- 50:50had an extra of, I'd be straight away.
- 50:53Yeah, I'll give you that for your phones.
- 50:54No bother. Yeah, totally.
- 50:55To have an extra anyway. Yeah.
- 50:59And I mean, don't need to do anything with his staff.
- 51:01I still think that's one of the most fun Staffs.
- 51:04Maybe could make it all wood rather than metal with a wooden
- 51:07tip, I don't know. But it works.
- 51:10So you know, it's not like he needs loads doing to him, but he
- 51:13could do you know they again they've sort of started the ball
- 51:17rolling on where it looks like soft goods making them soft
- 51:21goods and it'd really work. But did we talk about this the
- 51:25other way? You can Rich sort of saying
- 51:27there could be more bow, more wood on him or something more?
- 51:32Like that tendrils or something like that would be.
- 51:34Yeah, something like that would be cool.
- 51:36Just show off. He's a bit more of like a, you
- 51:39know, a Sprite or whatever he's meant to be from the woods.
- 51:45So yeah, any thought of the thoughts on him before I move on
- 51:50to the next? No, I think he's, he's one they
- 51:53could definitely do more with, but keep the heads got for sure,
- 51:57yeah. Yeah, and then I'll go to Freya
- 52:01because part of me don't doesn't think we will get a two point
- 52:05version two of Freya. But I'd really and I really
- 52:09really like her as she is. So when I say this, it's just
- 52:13what might they update, who they might update and with thinking
- 52:16about the new things that they've done with figures and
- 52:20what's available and it's she would just that whole thing of
- 52:24her being a Valkyrie. And you know the classic look of
- 52:28Valkyrie as being a bit bigger. That's the only, not the only
- 52:32reason, but that I'd love to see that from her, you know, I'd
- 52:38love to see them bulk her up again using the female 1.0 body
- 52:44again. Doesn't even need lots of
- 52:46changes. Maybe the new shield that
- 52:49they've done for Noble Bear, you know.
- 52:54Yeah, doesn't need loads doing just a bit of roofing up and a
- 52:58bit of bulk enough. And then one that the final one
- 53:04that I've put down. And again, this is sometime in
- 53:08the next couple of years, as you say, Malleus, and who knows?
- 53:13But when you compare him to every other sibling of of the,
- 53:19you know, every other child or Necronominus man, he's dull.
- 53:24And I'm sorry if Walter ever hears this, but he doesn't fit
- 53:27with the rest of them. Even he didn't really fit with
- 53:29brother Mandibulus and Morguliffe.
- 53:34Again, just a bit. Needs to be a bit more.
- 53:38Impressive. Especially Absolutely.
- 53:42He absolutely suffers. Hasn't even been really early in
- 53:44the line sort of thing. So, as you say, he's just been
- 53:47totally eclipsed by every other sibling.
- 53:50Yeah, and I appreciate in carrying the double, the 2
- 53:54double axes. The idea is he's just, you know,
- 53:56he's super strong and it probably doesn't matter with a
- 53:59skeleton if they're big or not. But there you go, he's there an
- 54:03opportunity. He could be a brute scale
- 54:05skeleton. Oh yes, with the two big.
- 54:08Axes. That would be fun, wouldn't it?
- 54:10Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
- 54:13Right. Let's move on to Rich and Rich
- 54:17went a bit Mal on us here. Yeah, I went a bit crazy on this
- 54:21one. Yeah, Faunus, we've talked about
- 54:25the Elf Raider. I think it's just a character
- 54:27that you can do so much. For Ranger, yeah.
- 54:30What did I say? Raider.
- 54:33Oh, sorry, my apologies. Maybe he'll do some raiding as
- 54:36well, but. Maybe the Yeah, let me bring
- 54:37some Shadow Elves in raiding everywhere.
- 54:39Yeah, no, the Elf Ranger. You can just look like soft good
- 54:42tastic sort of thing. Proper cloth hood.
- 54:45Although the figure is great, that hood looks out of place
- 54:48with the the cloth Cape. Fancy a bow?
- 54:52Maybe some sort of horn to use to for to alert people?
- 54:55Maybe it's slightly different on how much it had a little bit
- 54:59less leg or less, yeah. That's never a bad thing.
- 55:04Yeah. Although, did you guys, I don't
- 55:09know if you guys saw those, the Liverpool Comic Con over here,
- 55:13this is last weekend or the weekend before and they had
- 55:16Orlando Bloom and the four guys that played The Hobbles.
- 55:19They're doing photographs and this sort of stuff.
- 55:22And somebody's taking a picture. Of them.
- 55:24Somebody's taking a picture of them in a restaurant the night
- 55:27before. It's fair to say Orlando Bloom
- 55:29was enjoying himself. He absolutely hammered like they
- 55:33were. They were all clearly, you know,
- 55:35they're like celebrating his shots and they were clearly
- 55:37enjoying themselves. But he looked so hammered.
- 55:39Come to legions Khan, We've got a figure of you, mate.
- 55:43Better than the Toy Biz 1 or the.
- 55:47Steel hide I talked about quite a lot last.
- 55:49Yeah. Yeah, quite a lot last week I
- 55:51think. Just a taller build, less
- 55:53armoured. We talked about the Monkey King,
- 55:56yeah. Yeah, Freya, don't disagree with
- 56:01anything Mal said on that one. I I quite like a helmet the the
- 56:04current one, but the face sculpt is a bit bit plain so I think
- 56:08they could do more there definitely.
- 56:09Screaming Valkyrie. Oh, screaming.
- 56:12That could be awesome. And then I thought that if they
- 56:15ever do a Pegasus, because obviously, you know, you can
- 56:17just check her on a Pegasus then as well.
- 56:18And it's just like. The the other thing, it feels
- 56:22like they could incorporate that the immoral, not immortal issue
- 56:28really, but you know that coming back to life things somehow into
- 56:32the figure a bit more. I know it's like the story of
- 56:34the Valkyries, but you know. They could give her one
- 56:40translucent head when she's regenerated.
- 56:44There you go. It would actually make sense.
- 56:46So you know, I would not be slagging out.
- 56:50I love translucent plastic. Just in the right place, you
- 56:53know. And as we discussed in the
- 56:55previous episode, her and Gorgo have clearly got it going on, so
- 56:57maybe a little picture would be another.
- 57:00Let's not talk about Demon Wangs again now.
- 57:08I put Helmet Golden Tooth in. I mean, I'd quite happily have
- 57:12him released as he is as part of an All Star way, but obviously
- 57:16they seem to be veering away from that.
- 57:17Yeah, and having sold mine to degree on, it's one of the only
- 57:21a couple of figures I actually regret selling, so I'd love to
- 57:23see him again. So he.
- 57:24Has mismatched pauldrons and he also has dirt on his boots.
- 57:28I think it's that kind of stuff, I think yes.
- 57:31I'm being an ex gladiator. I think he could do more in
- 57:33terms of like bare arms or sort of soft good look to him rather
- 57:38than just this fully armoured look that he has at the moment.
- 57:42Every time anyone says bare arms now I just imagine the bodvar
- 57:46arms stuck on where. All the characters turn into
- 57:52where bears. It's like, here we go, yeah.
- 57:55All the House and Opal Bear Bear version Twos.
- 57:57They're where bears. King Noglin, I think this
- 58:04character, I think this figure is a brilliant figure anyway,
- 58:07but at the same time there's, you know, the stuff they've got
- 58:11nowadays. They could do a better job with
- 58:13the armour. It could.
- 58:15You know, he's a, he's obviously a goblin show off, so he could
- 58:17have some mismatched armour that he's got from other people
- 58:20maybe, but it's quite fancy and ornate.
- 58:24He features heavily in this Thousand Swigs story.
- 58:28Oh, does he? OK.
- 58:30So we'd have to have a battle if we're going to do this story, we
- 58:33have to have a battle to see who voices and.
- 58:37Maybe like a proper like gold crown or something rather than
- 58:41what sort of wooden one he's got.
- 58:42That's so unique though. I know, but I think, I think
- 58:45he's a show off Goblin, so I think he'd he'd like that, sort
- 58:48of. Maybe an alternative crowned
- 58:50head, yeah. OK, yeah, Morgliffe is another
- 58:55one that I really like the current figure.
- 58:56One I forgot about, to be honest or I missed her.
- 58:59I don't know. I'm traumatized by her.
- 59:04I mean, it'll be interesting to see what they did with her
- 59:06because it, you know, that head sculpt is incredible already
- 59:09sort of thing. But again, you could do better,
- 59:11better job with a soft, you know, not a better job, but
- 59:15bearing in mind those soft goods they have.
- 59:16Nowadays a better. Job a thinner staff so she can
- 59:20actually hold it, yes. I think, I think most of the
- 59:24studio would say what C Jessen's doing now is better than what
- 59:27they were doing then by a long way.
- 59:31Maybe. Maybe sandaled bone feet stop
- 59:33them getting a bit sore. We're walking along.
- 59:35On that play. Cool, yeah.
- 59:39Maybe. Bone sandals maybe?
- 59:43You could even do something like, I mean, she's meant to see
- 59:45through the eyes of her warriors, isn't she?
- 59:47So you could even do like glowing eyes, like a glowing eye
- 59:50head sculpt. Tomorrow there's an additional
- 59:52one so that it's like she's using that power and can see
- 59:55through it. Or glow like Superman figures.
- 59:57You know the glow with the glow coming out of the eyes.
- 1:00:00Yeah, that's nice. So I'd I'd buy that Lord Aiden
- 1:00:06again. He's just an old character that,
- 1:00:08you know, the elves are becoming far more prominent now.
- 1:00:12You could do an awful lot with him.
- 1:00:14Better weapons, you know, a chirpier face or maybe a bearded
- 1:00:19face. Let's keep, let's like you know
- 1:00:21different. Yeah, I think maybe stoic is
- 1:00:24more. It's easier to do with a beard.
- 1:00:25Is it? Because yeah, it just looks
- 1:00:27pissed off. Yeah, Grisha, again, this is
- 1:00:34just a list of figures I already like, but I'd love.
- 1:00:38It's your show, you know it's your it's your choice.
- 1:00:41I love what they do in the sort of Middle Eastern armor vibe, so
- 1:00:43I think they could do new things with a Grisha.
- 1:00:46Ideally I'd want it 1.0 rather than 2.0, but I'm not sure they
- 1:00:50go that route. But again, it gives you much
- 1:00:52more of an option in terms of weapons like, you know, more a
- 1:00:55new curved weapon or something that's clearly from that part of
- 1:00:59the world sort of thing. I wanted to include Grisha, but
- 1:01:02I found it hard to improve the basic figure.
- 1:01:08Yeah, I'd say with him he's he's so good as he is.
- 1:01:11Just leave him as he is and just create a new character.
- 1:01:14That's got in the same realm, yeah, yeah, yeah, it would be
- 1:01:17better. I'd I love the head sculpt.
- 1:01:19I think it's one of my favorite ones in the line.
- 1:01:21But I'd happily see another version of that.
- 1:01:25You know, maybe if he's bored and he wants to change his look
- 1:01:27a little bit because, you know, meant to be a bit, you know,
- 1:01:29nobody knows what it what if he or she is?
- 1:01:31Like they've never got another use out of that tool, which is
- 1:01:36interesting. Yeah, Malleus.
- 1:01:40Nothing different to what Mal said.
- 1:01:42It's just boring, out of date and needs a a refresh.
- 1:01:46Xylo swept back, swept back. Antlers I.
- 1:01:52Really want them to do that? It's.
- 1:01:54Just a thing now, isn't it? Carpathius again, we've talked
- 1:01:59about him. Etheron I'd like to see bigger,
- 1:02:06I think. I think.
- 1:02:07I think with all the sort of great beasts, I want them
- 1:02:11slightly larger than life sort of thing.
- 1:02:13And I know they haven't done that with the daughter gods.
- 1:02:15They're all other than Necronominus.
- 1:02:17She's a little bit taller. They're all the same sort of
- 1:02:20sizes, but I think with the great things, it would just be
- 1:02:21good just to boost. Like those figures, right?
- 1:02:25The great beasts or whatever. And you know we're talking about
- 1:02:27ether on here's what the one that we've got.
- 1:02:31Yeah, just completely retool him, make him bigger, give him
- 1:02:35more stuff. Make him £70 but like he's your
- 1:02:39daddy, you know he is like and then the other three as well.
- 1:02:43Same sort of level, you know, not going to be a 37 dollar $40
- 1:02:48fee or whatever naked people would pay that.
- 1:02:52People are paying £300 for him now or £500 from now, whatever
- 1:02:57it is. What some What's he on the Jones
- 1:02:58123456? He's missing his wings and one
- 1:03:02of his additional feat, so he's he's the only 300 on, yeah.
- 1:03:06So even an incomplete 1, even for that.
- 1:03:08Like, no offense, but you know, that's tough.
- 1:03:12Yeah, and then a Queen arc, Sir. Nothing different to what Miles
- 1:03:18said on that Bigger 1.0 scale would be great.
- 1:03:21I think all of your was huge on the said about bone armor.
- 1:03:24Yeah, that. Would be awesome.
- 1:03:25I think that would be a really good feel for her as well.
- 1:03:28Very good. Well, well done Rich.
- 1:03:29And getting through all of them. That was amazing.
- 1:03:33Here's my Sunios. I maybe cheated a bit.
- 1:03:36I went with the Night Builder, Deluxe Night Builder from the
- 1:03:43Covenant to Shadow Wave. The only figure that hasn't been
- 1:03:45reissued out of that wave, which is amazing.
- 1:03:50And I think that judging on the conversations they had recently
- 1:03:55on Jeremy's show, they're not going to re release this one
- 1:04:00because they think that there's been so many good new parts that
- 1:04:04they're more likely to do like in different night builder with
- 1:04:08some more of the new parts. And I'd be down for that.
- 1:04:11So that's what I'm just putting it in.
- 1:04:13Might even be a version 2. Might just be night Builder
- 1:04:16three, you know whatever it's called.
- 1:04:19So I'd be down for that. All your new night parts, maybe
- 1:04:23it's obviously soft goods or something.
- 1:04:24Some generic soft goods would be really cool, wouldn't it?
- 1:04:27You know those blue, but in soft goods would be really good.
- 1:04:30The thing the picture shows it doesn't show here, and I believe
- 1:04:33you pointed this out before. Mal is there is a torso as well
- 1:04:37to match that skirt piece. Yeah, there is, yeah.
- 1:04:41So that's cool. We got Halmer, Golden Tooth.
- 1:04:47Yeah. You've said it already boys.
- 1:04:50And I would be, I would like I have him, but I think he's good
- 1:04:54enough to be just a straight issue as well.
- 1:04:57But why not version to him at some stage if you're going to go
- 1:05:01that way anyway with a lot of the figures.
- 1:05:03And then I have a kind of a double here because they're
- 1:05:07LinkedIn, the story and they came together in the same wave
- 1:05:09is Ragnar, which I think from everything I've heard and this
- 1:05:13from the studio over the years, not entirely happy with them,
- 1:05:16even though it's Jim's favorite figure that he said in
- 1:05:19interviews. I don't know if he was serious
- 1:05:21or not, but I don't think he's the type of guy that would say
- 1:05:24something like that, so. I've seen Eric in two separate
- 1:05:28interview say it's his least favorite figure.
- 1:05:30Yeah. I think it was.
- 1:05:33I think he was restricted by parrots, wasn't he?
- 1:05:38And Thalia Prospo then, she's a very popular figure.
- 1:05:42I think she was very easy to get at the time when this was
- 1:05:46released and in when it was in stock and everything and there
- 1:05:49was, you know, she was. But now people, I think because
- 1:05:52she's so unique within the line and obviously there's a lot more
- 1:05:56like you've got the Legions ladies now, which is a big
- 1:05:58group. You've got a lot more people
- 1:06:00that are into the line with different tastes and she's
- 1:06:03definitely a figure that people want to get more of.
- 1:06:06Again, she's pretty good as is, but you know, if you're going to
- 1:06:11improve Ragnar, give her her body.
- 1:06:15You know, give that ice troll a proper battle.
- 1:06:18Yeah, and you could, you could find some sort of way of with
- 1:06:22Fallon of of incorporating some sort of ice feel to the armour
- 1:06:26potential. So rather than just a colour,
- 1:06:28some of the sculpting or something like that could work
- 1:06:30well. Yeah, exactly.
- 1:06:31And obviously would never happen.
- 1:06:32Now there's going to be a demand for yourselves anyway, isn't
- 1:06:35there? Totally.
- 1:06:36Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:06:38So you could even. Translucent weapons so as if
- 1:06:43they're made from ice or something.
- 1:06:44Like that? Yeah.
- 1:06:45Oh, that would be good. Awesome, wouldn't it?
- 1:06:47Yeah, or even translucent effects.
- 1:06:50Yeah, kind of Common of the weapons.
- 1:06:51Arrows. Yeah.
- 1:06:53Arrows. Yeah.
- 1:06:54Frosty arrows. Yeah, and then Ragnar, you're
- 1:06:57talking about maybe using some of the new dwarf parts from the
- 1:07:01kit, or giving her more of a real dwarf scale and just
- 1:07:07differentiating the size from just the armor, you know?
- 1:07:11Or rather than the goblin scale here, which is, which is not
- 1:07:15really great. It's cool, but it's unique.
- 1:07:20I really like recommend but I'm always happy to get more dwarfs
- 1:07:24or version twos or dwarfs. And on helmets or dragnet as
- 1:07:29well, maybe. That'd be cool.
- 1:07:32Especially with how well they did with that female head for
- 1:07:35the dwarf builder pack, that's so good it'd be nice to get a
- 1:07:38ranker. Version and we can find out then
- 1:07:41if the if the hair coming out the back of the helmet is
- 1:07:44actually her hair. If it's just a helmet piece.
- 1:07:49Because she has the gut. Yeah, because she has that kind
- 1:07:53of Gorgo helmet as well. But in this scale doesn't come
- 1:07:56with that many figures. So that is a kind of a more
- 1:08:00unique piece that comes with her.
- 1:08:02You could have some facial tattoos or something, I don't
- 1:08:04know. Or maybe yeah, Or maybe this
- 1:08:08kind of really, you know, shaved on one side, but like more than
- 1:08:12Juno, you know, Maybe really on like half her head, you know, Or
- 1:08:16or half something really crazy, anyway.
- 1:08:20Or it's just a full of mullet. What's up?
- 1:08:25Sticking out the back and then just shit size.
- 1:08:27Really, really bouffant at the front.
- 1:08:30Really emphasize the model. Oh yeah, love it.
- 1:08:33Balan. I can't believe, Rich, You
- 1:08:35didn't have Balan. He's on my list of the ones I
- 1:08:39would really. Like, but you don't think, OK, I
- 1:08:42think Balan needs soft goods to get up to the level of his
- 1:08:49faction colleagues. Now I think that he could do
- 1:08:53with an open mouth, Ted sculpt too, and better weapons.
- 1:08:59So that's really where we're going with Balaam.
- 1:09:02It's a funny one because I actually really, really like him
- 1:09:04in the arms and I I have him as more of a warrior than a
- 1:09:10magician. Yeah, and I also can't believe
- 1:09:15any of the Legion's Lounge guys didn't pick Balaam as a mage.
- 1:09:18I mean, come on, he's getting everything there, you know.
- 1:09:22Anyway, especially I think it was Natie had all the animals in
- 1:09:25his group. So when I stick the lamb in
- 1:09:27there Maria Grohl golden branch, then I think if you're going to
- 1:09:34do Lord Aiden, do her as well then give her soft goods give
- 1:09:40her a big cloak don't need to maybe change the head sculpt the
- 1:09:44paint ONS on those two are really good.
- 1:09:47I mean a bit like Grisha as well that wave some of the paint on
- 1:09:50that small you know scale of body really really good.
- 1:09:55You know very hard to get a really good customizer to paint
- 1:09:59that good. So nothing wrong with that but
- 1:10:02yeah and then give her more interesting weapons you know she
- 1:10:05look look at the weapons there. It just looks like, yeah, OK,
- 1:10:08this, this, this. There you go, love.
- 1:10:12Yeah, she's just running past a weapon rock, As in she's grabbed
- 1:10:14the first thing that came to hand.
- 1:10:16Yeah, instead of, you know, she's quite high up in the in
- 1:10:19the in the Alvin court, so you know she needs a bit better than
- 1:10:23that, right? Cool And Most Wanted for Mal and
- 1:10:28these will include ones we've mentioned already.
- 1:10:31This is it. Yeah.
- 1:10:32There'll be a crossover, but there is a lot in there here
- 1:10:34from what I've talked. About which is fine, So we don't
- 1:10:36need to dwell on them, but we can we can definitely talk about
- 1:10:39them and obviously tell people who they are.
- 1:10:43So OK, number one, I'd absolutely love to get him.
- 1:10:47I if he wasn't so expensive, I'd pick up the old figure now.
- 1:10:52And it is purely that head sculpt is so cool, but I'd love
- 1:10:56to see an updated one, the blue cloth goods and all that.
- 1:11:00And I I mean, we sort of briefly talked about it before and the
- 1:11:05more I think about it, the more it'd be so cool if he had silver
- 1:11:08version of Attila's armor somehow.
- 1:11:13Maybe not all of it, but you know, bits of it.
- 1:11:17I kind of like the idea of him having the silver helmet, but I
- 1:11:21don't think they'd do that. Got you Irksa.
- 1:11:26Yeah, I'd love Queen Irksa, but again, I'd love her in that
- 1:11:31female one point O scale. I've really like what they're
- 1:11:34doing there. More female figures we get like
- 1:11:38that the better in my opinion. You know, bit of variety.
- 1:11:43Not to say they should eliminate the two point O females at all,
- 1:11:47but it adds the nice bit of variety that you don't often see
- 1:11:52in figure lines. Totally, yeah.
- 1:11:54Same with Freya again. Love her as she is.
- 1:11:58Wouldn't get rid of the current money if I go if they did a new
- 1:12:00one but I'd love to see her as a more like that classic Valkyrie.
- 1:12:04Ever been a bit bigger Malachi? I've I've sort of I got the elf
- 1:12:13warrior in my mystery box and that's what I said last week and
- 1:12:17and I've said to you guys I've kind of fallen I'm not fussed by
- 1:12:21the elves generally. I like Bardrick because he's
- 1:12:23different. I like Artemis because she's a
- 1:12:26bit different but the rest of the elves I'm a bit like meh.
- 1:12:29But the dark elves, I've got that elf, dark elf warrior, and
- 1:12:35they're just so they're cool. And then reading their BIOS,
- 1:12:38they are actually they're fun. They're I like that that's, you
- 1:12:42know a fun elf. And then the one that's probably
- 1:12:462nd, 12, they but left him till last because I haven't talked
- 1:12:49about him because I'm not sure we will get him anytime soon.
- 1:12:53And we talked. I mentioned him last week.
- 1:12:55Is the jar and Rune Shaper? Oh yeah, I'd love him as he is,
- 1:13:00to be honest with you. But I think it'd be really cool
- 1:13:05to get him again because they've done so many of these new.
- 1:13:12What's the faction? Basilia Basilia.
- 1:13:16With the cloth goods and their cloth heavy.
- 1:13:18And the magic effects. Yeah, yeah, it'd be great to do
- 1:13:21that to him. I'd like to keep certain
- 1:13:24features and the colours particularly I'd like to keep.
- 1:13:27I like the winged helmet, so maybe just modify that slightly.
- 1:13:33But yeah, he's. I'd love to get him as a tube, a
- 1:13:37version 2, or even just a rerelease of his current figure,
- 1:13:40but I think when they do it, it'll be a version 2.
- 1:13:44It's interesting that that action shot is the only shot on
- 1:13:46the website character. It's funny, isn't it?
- 1:13:51I don't know who I don't. It doesn't even say who said
- 1:13:53that. I guess it was somebody in the
- 1:13:55studio. I don't know.
- 1:13:56But interesting. All right.
- 1:14:00Should we move on to Rich? This was funny, Rich, for me
- 1:14:05because I looked your most wanted and there was the first
- 1:14:09two figures here. And then I actually did it.
- 1:14:14And then I was like, that's strange and he wants to.
- 1:14:17And then I went back and I scrolled down and you have
- 1:14:19another you had another page in the document you sent me.
- 1:14:24I was like, ah, this makes more sense, right?
- 1:14:28Let's get those. So some of these you haven't
- 1:14:31mentioned before, which is interesting.
- 1:14:32I haven't no so balaam. I would love another balaam.
- 1:14:36I would want bare feet. Oh yeah, good.
- 1:14:41Shows as well in an ideal world, so you could put some claws and
- 1:14:44and that sort of thing. I'd also want the flocked
- 1:14:47version, even if it's just a head.
- 1:14:49Oh yeah, rather than everything you know.
- 1:14:51Flocked, flocked. Or an exclusive flocked version.
- 1:14:53I don't care. I see eBay prices for that.
- 1:14:55Yeah, and and I would love to see this, it talks about him
- 1:15:00harnessing the power of creatures, A couple of little
- 1:15:03creatures to go with it. Oh yeah.
- 1:15:05Like a couple. Of bunnies, something like that.
- 1:15:06You know they've done the small cuddly toy things for the
- 1:15:08figure. Obscuriously they've shown that
- 1:15:10they can do tiny little fig non articulated things.
- 1:15:13So let's have a Bunny and a badger or something.
- 1:15:16Or squirrel, you know, because. Badgers are menace.
- 1:15:20You know Badger and the squirrel wouldn't work though.
- 1:15:22Well, it would if Balaam was telling them what to do, but
- 1:15:24otherwise the badger would detect squirrel.
- 1:15:27So. Yes, I'd love Balaam Gadrielle.
- 1:15:34Again, the armour colour and that is amazing, but I hate the
- 1:15:38head sculpt so I'd I'd want a different head sculpt that looks
- 1:15:42a bit more angelic, be that with some sort of Halo type thing
- 1:15:46that can go on, or long hair I think would probably work better
- 1:15:52as well for that sort of angelic look.
- 1:15:55Again, I like the fact she comes with a hammer, but it's too big
- 1:15:58to hold. So again, scale that down a
- 1:16:01little bit and make that work better.
- 1:16:04So I'd love another one of her. Funnily enough, I nearly went
- 1:16:07with her as well in my wanted list.
- 1:16:12Jaw and same as Mal said, just more soft goods.
- 1:16:15I'd maybe take the armour down a little bit, maybe some sort of
- 1:16:19cloth, cloth arms or something or or legs sort of thing.
- 1:16:21Just to reduce the armour slightly.
- 1:16:24They could do so much more now with the the magic effects.
- 1:16:27Grisha, I've talked about Galleron, same as you really,
- 1:16:31John, I I quite like the back story sort of thing so an
- 1:16:34unhelmeted head would be great. That armour colour's brilliant
- 1:16:36as well so let's find a way of getting him Pixos.
- 1:16:44It's a great character that I think they could do more with
- 1:16:47it. So at the moment it's just
- 1:16:48obviously just got the Mercurian head.
- 1:16:50So let's have a different Mercurian head with a skeletal
- 1:16:54face plate that you can put a human face plate or something as
- 1:16:57well if you wanted to do a different one further down the
- 1:16:59line. I'd just really like this one.
- 1:17:02Take a version too as well so. Again, I'd be looking for bare
- 1:17:06skeletal feet, I think with this guy as well and just generally A
- 1:17:11dirtier look as well. Sort of thing that he's come
- 1:17:13through from the, you know, from his background sort of thing.
- 1:17:17So just dirtier look. Malleus again, boring.
- 1:17:22Let's make him better how Mirror talked about.
- 1:17:25Do you know this is the other figure that I regret selling?
- 1:17:30But I'd want to. I'd want a bit if they if they
- 1:17:32were to redo it, a bigger one. So brute scale again like Neve.
- 1:17:36No, there. She's 1.0, not Bruce.
- 1:17:38Yeah. Sorry, 1.0, not Bruce.
- 1:17:40Sorry. Yeah, that's what I meant.
- 1:17:42Yeah, I mean, Brute is compatible 1.0, but yeah, you'd
- 1:17:44like a Neve scale, yeah? And again, that would fit the
- 1:17:47weapons better because she's got big bruising weapons.
- 1:17:49But doesn't look like it. She could.
- 1:17:51She'd actually do that much with them at the moment.
- 1:17:54Maybe I don't sound prudish, but maybe a little bit more in the
- 1:17:56way of clothing. I'm not a I'm not a huge fan of
- 1:18:00the titty Barbarian looking. I think she's pilot titty
- 1:18:03barbarian, yeah. I really liked you, you know?
- 1:18:06But yeah, she could face being a version too.
- 1:18:12Thistle form. I love the character, I think A.
- 1:18:15Version. There you go, Jesse.
- 1:18:16I don't see. We knew you'd get you covered.
- 1:18:19We'd get another Fuzz Monk head sculpted out of it, so that
- 1:18:23would be good because people can repaint those all sorts of
- 1:18:25different colours and do cool stuff with the character he's.
- 1:18:29One I'd actually think a little growling, head sculpted be cool.
- 1:18:34He just looks too soft and squishy and you know he, I can
- 1:18:39imagine he's a proper little rip your head off character when he
- 1:18:42has to. Yeah, the sort of guy, if you're
- 1:18:47having a few drinks and it kicks off, he's there.
- 1:18:49Yeah, that's like decimating the place, yeah.
- 1:18:52He's running in front of you, nutted the guy.
- 1:18:56Yeah. So clearly a tankard in in the
- 1:18:59accessories, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's right.
- 1:19:02I I don't like the armoury he's got at the moment.
- 1:19:04It's too particularly, you know it's it's too like rigid and
- 1:19:07that sort of stuff. I'd like some sort of sort of
- 1:19:08smoother look or even more soft goods to it to give me more of a
- 1:19:14foresty feel. OK, cool.
- 1:19:16And then lastly, Fauna. So I think I took chatted at
- 1:19:18length about it last week. But some sort of tendrils, maybe
- 1:19:21an exposed torso with the soft goods going through it and.
- 1:19:24More, more organic. Isn't that what we'd say more?
- 1:19:27Organic. I like that, yes.
- 1:19:29I think that sort of character would work really well with the
- 1:19:31beard. Not an evil goatee this time,
- 1:19:33but a full beard. Maybe flocked beard?
- 1:19:37And. A green flock or whatever, yeah.
- 1:19:40And that would be all dotted around, would be very good.
- 1:19:43Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes and so.
- 1:19:47That's a good idea for a customer.
- 1:19:50Yeah, so there are a few of these I don't think we'll get
- 1:19:53version twos of, but I'd love to have them.
- 1:19:55So yeah. Oh yeah, this is your wish list.
- 1:19:57Yeah, yeah, right. Mine of course a lot is covered,
- 1:20:02but number one, I think it just although just want to have them
- 1:20:05in the collection at this stage and all down for.
- 1:20:12The great beasts. So give us an ether on, but
- 1:20:14yeah, as I said earlier, just give us a big one.
- 1:20:18Uh, give us a totally new tooled one.
- 1:20:21You know, we have to pay for a tour, but you know, just go all
- 1:20:24out and the knight deluxe builder.
- 1:20:29Yeah, go crazy. We love Knights.
- 1:20:31Let us legion build deluxe Knights.
- 1:20:34Maybe give us the possibility to make 2 Knights in the one pack.
- 1:20:40Maybe. Maybe charge a little bit more,
- 1:20:43but less than two figures. I don't know how he could
- 1:20:45squeeze that, but it would be just amazing.
- 1:20:49Yeah. Well, you know, that's something
- 1:20:51cool, no? I mean like that.
- 1:20:53Cosmic Legion Legion Builders. Essentially there's two almost 2
- 1:20:59characters. Yeah, but there's only.
- 1:21:02One character. Yeah, yeah, two on the one.
- 1:21:05But there's always like your arms or legs you're missing.
- 1:21:07Yeah, you have two. I'm just actually give us two
- 1:21:11figures. But but like maybe for $60.00
- 1:21:16somehow, I don't know, just, you know, just make it amazing.
- 1:21:21But it's it'll be amazing if it's just a couple of extra
- 1:21:25torsos or an extra pair of boots or something, you know that
- 1:21:28that's also cool. But you know, talking dreamland
- 1:21:31here Herzog is another one. I need the leader of the orcs
- 1:21:37army. You know I need him.
- 1:21:41He's a definite thord. Again, very important character
- 1:21:46for the dwarfs. So he needs to be there.
- 1:21:49And Balaam, I'll just take all the blam we can get.
- 1:21:52I'll take the old one, the new one, whatever.
- 1:21:55So give us another one. Him.
- 1:21:59Sound fair? So I think we've we've
- 1:22:02definitely covered version twos. Shall we move on to Figura
- 1:22:09Obscura Predictions? If you still have the energy.
- 1:22:12If you want to pause, get a cup of tea, get your breath back,
- 1:22:16and we can go for Figura Obscura.
- 1:22:22My wallet is sobbing. I can hear it.
- 1:22:25I can hear it in the hall. Now it is breaking down crying.
- 1:22:28Tell you what it is. If you're going to buy all those
- 1:22:30we've just talked about, righty ho.
- 1:22:33Yeah. And now we've got Figure
- 1:22:36Obscura. So I've compiled some pictures
- 1:22:40from online based on what mostly from GameSpot I think isn't in
- 1:22:47the website. Based on what we've talked
- 1:22:49about. They have a great list of
- 1:22:51characters with with public domain license.
- 1:22:56So that's what we kind of looked at here, isn't it?
- 1:22:59Basically we were, you know we're not trying to put figure
- 1:23:02obscure characters that we know they'd have to pay license for
- 1:23:07because that's not the thing. So Mal Europe first here to go
- 1:23:10through yours, right. And there's a little bit of
- 1:23:14crossover, but we can we can talk about them when, when they
- 1:23:18come. But we actually were pretty good
- 1:23:21in how we picked here. So I've all got about six or
- 1:23:25seven. So just for the listeners
- 1:23:27benefits, so they know what to expect, right, Go for it, so.
- 1:23:31I'll go with what I think he's pretty much been said, yeah,
- 1:23:35without being said. So I think we're definitely
- 1:23:39going to get another one of the ghosts at some point this year,
- 1:23:42I actually think. I've got.
- 1:23:44I've got him. Hold on.
- 1:23:47Yeah. OK.
- 1:23:48So I mean, I suppose what we're really meant to be talking about
- 1:23:52here is what we think we'll get next.
- 1:23:54But I thought I'd mention this because I think we'll get this,
- 1:23:57but I think we'll get this the end of the year in that slot
- 1:24:01that they do, partly because it's big.
- 1:24:03They like, seem to like to do something a bit spooky around
- 1:24:06October. But also if it's the Christmas
- 1:24:10Carol and it's got everything, it's, you know, it's death
- 1:24:13essentially, isn't it? But there's Maxillius, the
- 1:24:17harvester. No.
- 1:24:18Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:24:19It's perfect. Yeah.
- 1:24:22So to explain the pictures we have here, the first one in the
- 1:24:25top left is from Scrooge the 1970 film, the one in the middle
- 1:24:30and the bottom is from Scrooged. The best version of this?
- 1:24:36Yeah. That's why I put it in everyone
- 1:24:38that says I know we have, I know we have fans of that movie
- 1:24:41within the podcast and the relationship.
- 1:24:44And the last one is from an ITV modern version of it.
- 1:24:50It's not Ross Kemp is not Ross Kemp.
- 1:24:52Yeah, Ross Kemp is not the Ghost of Christmas Preacher.
- 1:24:55He is Scrooge, or the Scrooge character and the little boy,
- 1:24:58It's the Ghost of Christmas. That that was hilarious.
- 1:25:03That's that's about as good as ITV sports coverage, isn't it?
- 1:25:06DM me. Well, the one anyway.
- 1:25:10Just the one in the I forget what T what TV channel did it,
- 1:25:16but it's B. It's on iPlayer over here.
- 1:25:18Yeah, BBC. Then.
- 1:25:22Is it iPlayer or night? But anyway, but.
- 1:25:24Anyway, they're not important. There's a more modern one that
- 1:25:26actually Eric referenced as being somewhat the cool for some
- 1:25:32of like Marley and the and the knock on the door and all this.
- 1:25:36Maybe I should the death in the Sorry to Death, The Christmas of
- 1:25:42Future or Christmas Yet to Come. He's a bit different in that
- 1:25:47one. He's a bit more shadowy and not
- 1:25:49quite so obviously death like, but yes, I.
- 1:25:53Also thought the one in The Muppets Christmas Carol looked
- 1:25:55very cool, but he was just basically a big black sheep
- 1:25:59black hood, right? So your first one here on my
- 1:26:03slides that I did with John Carter, yeah.
- 1:26:07These are the ones I'm like, well, what could we get soon?
- 1:26:10And I could see us in the next one.
- 1:26:12I could see us getting you see with figure obscure.
- 1:26:16It's so hard. It could be, we know it could be
- 1:26:19anything. But what I could see is John
- 1:26:22Carter from Mars because it fits legions cosmic and mythic.
- 1:26:27Brilliantly, you could little bit of a tweak and you could put
- 1:26:31it, put it in whatever collection and I know they're
- 1:26:33not too worried about that, but. Yeah, and the nice thing about
- 1:26:37this site I was looking up is it gives you a couple of different
- 1:26:41renditions of the character from different media.
- 1:26:44Excuse me, from different media. So yeah, he's a Confederate,
- 1:26:50Civil War veteran and gold miner who's transported to Mars and
- 1:26:55through the course of his own adventures, becomes a hero.
- 1:26:59Excuse me. And a Prince on the planet.
- 1:27:02Yes. So he's got sort of vibes of
- 1:27:04well yeah I mean various vibes doesn't he?
- 1:27:07Vibes of Conan or or you know that those sorts of characters
- 1:27:14or a bit more sci-fi and they give him a bit more sci-fi
- 1:27:19stuff. Get your home weapons.
- 1:27:23I mean there's one there. It looks like he's wearing a bit
- 1:27:25more of a space suit although actually it might meant to be
- 1:27:27his confederate jacket perhaps and one there he's wearing a bit
- 1:27:30looks a bit Prince of Persia where he's being chased by the
- 1:27:34the alien So in actually no he looks like I take that back.
- 1:27:39It's a bit like the he man, new adventures of he man kind of
- 1:27:44armour. Which?
- 1:27:46Something like, I love that. Quite cool.
- 1:27:47Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:27:48So yeah, I think he's a possibility.
- 1:27:51If not next, maybe in the future.
- 1:27:55Definitely cool. This one's really a werewolf.
- 1:28:02Well, this is on my what I want, but I don't think we're going to
- 1:28:05get it this year. Yeah.
- 1:28:07Yeah. So I think I'd love, as I know
- 1:28:09Rich Wood and yourself would. I'd love a werewolf at some
- 1:28:12point. I don't think this is going to
- 1:28:14be the next one by any means. I think we're probably a little
- 1:28:17way off this. I think sorry, I was going to
- 1:28:22say sorry. I think we're more likely to get
- 1:28:24a werewolf through mythic legions than we are through for
- 1:28:26Gear Obscure. He talked about there is
- 1:28:29definitely werewolves and mythos and that's what he's keen to do.
- 1:28:33So yeah, yeah, yeah, I think. Sorry, stealing your Thunder.
- 1:28:35No, no, it's. Fine, it's fine.
- 1:28:37If I had an evil goatee, I'd be stroking it.
- 1:28:40And twiddling the mustache. Oh yeah, now.
- 1:28:43Yeah, I think. I think he's spot on there.
- 1:28:45I think we're more likely to get it in legions.
- 1:28:49Yeah, this this reminds me. I mean the this veteran William
- 1:28:53figure from Fury Toys. That kind of is great and
- 1:28:57Monster forced not to forget. It's coming soon.
- 1:29:01We've got we. Can say soon it's gone back
- 1:29:03about 6 times. OK, it's a pity, right?
- 1:29:07To move on then. So werewolves, right?
- 1:29:10Here's another one you're hoping for.
- 1:29:11Yeah, I'd absolutely love them to do some Cthulhu style stuff,
- 1:29:16but I don't think it's something they'll go near for various
- 1:29:22reasons. I think possibly, partly just
- 1:29:28because it's so familiar, they might leave it alone.
- 1:29:32We'll see. Though I think if they did do
- 1:29:34it, it'd be excellent. Yep.
- 1:29:37Is he always really big? I I haven't really read anything
- 1:29:40about. I know the characters, I haven't
- 1:29:41read anything about it. Is it?
- 1:29:42Cthulhu. Well, I don't know if yeah,
- 1:29:44Cthulhu himself is, and various like the Great Old Ones are
- 1:29:48huge. Yeah they're ginormous.
- 1:29:51But there's all sorts of I don't just mean that.
- 1:29:53I mean you know anything Cthulhu related, which yeah, I don't
- 1:30:00think they will do. Right, The Three Musketeers.
- 1:30:05And you specifically said The Three Musketeers as a three
- 1:30:08pack. No, no, I just.
- 1:30:10I actually, I wouldn't. It's one of those.
- 1:30:13It's. Which one do you pick?
- 1:30:15I noticed Richard d'artagnan on his list.
- 1:30:17Yeah, I nearly got D'artagnan. Yeah, I went for the 4th
- 1:30:20Musketeer. Yeah, yeah, any of them.
- 1:30:22They're all really cool. It'd be.
- 1:30:24It'd be awesome. It was, funnily enough,
- 1:30:27mentioned on Legions Lounge, Was it?
- 1:30:33No, no. It might have been one of the
- 1:30:35one of the many shows that the Mythic Enablers are on that
- 1:30:38week. They Joe.
- 1:30:43Ben. Someone asked and Joe said he'd
- 1:30:45like the Musketeers and I Yeah, I'd love one of the Musketeers.
- 1:30:49I think it would just, it's just of course it would.
- 1:30:53Yeah, the sword types are just so different to anything, yeah,
- 1:30:56at the moment. Sword and Are we talking a lot
- 1:31:00of soft goods or are we talking more Marley types of coat
- 1:31:04jackets or? For me, something like what?
- 1:31:07Marley's Gossard work, Yeah. The design I've really, really
- 1:31:14like and really make me want. That means there's a French.
- 1:31:20I think they're doing a trilogy but the first one was called
- 1:31:24d'artagnan and they're doing and the second one's it's not going
- 1:31:30to but it's about it's it's her name is the is the name of the
- 1:31:35second one and they're doing that's going on at the moment
- 1:31:38not the moment. You know, the first one was a
- 1:31:39few years, a couple of years ago.
- 1:31:41Next one's due soon and the they're they're their outfit
- 1:31:45designs and that's so cool they look are.
- 1:31:47They the more modern type of leather type stuff.
- 1:31:51Or yeah, yeah. OK.
- 1:31:54I saw that when I was going through the different pictures
- 1:31:57that we've done the ghost of and then we have Long John Silver.
- 1:32:01This was also on your or is also yeah this is the last one few
- 1:32:05months. I think we're definitely going
- 1:32:07to get a pirate at some point. Whether we get I could see it
- 1:32:14sooner rather than later. But I and sorry, tramping on
- 1:32:19Rich a bit here but. No, it's one.
- 1:32:21I know Rich has sort of said he thinks Blackbeard would be cool
- 1:32:24and would be awesome, but I'm not sure it'll be Blackbeard
- 1:32:27that we get just because he's a real person or based on a real
- 1:32:30person. So I think we're more likely to
- 1:32:32get Long John Silver or Captain Hook.
- 1:32:38Either of them would be cool, actually.
- 1:32:40Quite like the idea of Captain Hook with a little hook.
- 1:32:43And if they wanted to push the boat out, he could come with a
- 1:32:45big TikTok. But I mean, they've been doing
- 1:32:49that sort of thing with the, you know, with the figure obscure,
- 1:32:54haven't they? You wouldn't be surprised to see
- 1:32:57an alligator the size or crocodile.
- 1:32:59Sorry, the size of the package in there.
- 1:33:03That'd be cool. Yeah no the more I think about
- 1:33:07it Mal the more I agree with you actually I think along John
- 1:33:09Silver in particular is more likely than than a Blackbeard
- 1:33:13just for literary sort of feel to and then you get peg leg as
- 1:33:15well obviously we should be would be superb.
- 1:33:19Yeah. So either either of those two, I
- 1:33:21did actually add another one more recently, so I know you're.
- 1:33:24OK. You might not tell us.
- 1:33:25Yeah, you can talk about it. I could see it's getting
- 1:33:27something more Eastern and this is based on there's been a bit
- 1:33:32of talk and Eric sort of commented he'd like to do more
- 1:33:35of that sort of stuff. So I could see us getting it's
- 1:33:39kind of fits with the pirate, although it's not pirate, it's a
- 1:33:41sailor, it's Sinbad or Aladdin kind of fits in with that as
- 1:33:47well. The sailor, sort of you know
- 1:33:50he's they're very sort of they all fit in the same world
- 1:33:55Aladdin and sing that they would be.
- 1:33:57Very good. I I believe Rich might have that
- 1:33:59covered as well here. Rich, do you want to start with
- 1:34:03possibly one of my number one once I didn't cover it now
- 1:34:07because you covered it. Yeah, I I I think this one
- 1:34:11possibly the most likely. I have all lawns on my list for
- 1:34:13the For the next one, I should say my list doesn't really have
- 1:34:16any Christmassy or horror stuff because I want to try and focus
- 1:34:18on what I think we're going to get.
- 1:34:20Absolutely, yeah. This time the pigsy.
- 1:34:24The bottom right picture is from the.
- 1:34:25American to the words, yeah. Yeah, amazing Japanese TV series
- 1:34:29of it. You know he's on the box art.
- 1:34:34It's. The one.
- 1:34:35The millionaire. You know you've got soft goods.
- 1:34:38You can have a cool rake weapon. I'd love to see what Eric would
- 1:34:42do with a sort of pig head as well.
- 1:34:43So and it would make sense to do pigsy.
- 1:34:46I mean, the only thing I guess is if they're not careful,
- 1:34:48they're not too careful. They might find themselves doing
- 1:34:51all Monkey King characters at this time of year.
- 1:34:53And then all the ghosts, yeah, And the Scrooge, all of a sudden
- 1:34:56they're tying themselves down to Stuff A.
- 1:34:58Little bit. So that's what.
- 1:35:00That's what would pull me away from this happening but would
- 1:35:04still be sweet. Yeah.
- 1:35:08Then we have Sinbad as Mad was. Mad was.
- 1:35:10Yeah, like Sinbad and I also had Alibaba sort of thing.
- 1:35:13So yeah, to devoid the sailor type stuff.
- 1:35:16Then you can have, you know, piles of treasure, loads of
- 1:35:19scope for soft goods, sort of flowing.
- 1:35:22You know the wider backyard trousers, even if they really
- 1:35:24wanted to go down more mesco sorts of of route.
- 1:35:28And it's also because we get a lot of new tooling which figure
- 1:35:31it's very hard to predict what you know what would be used for
- 1:35:35for these type of figures because they didn't generally do
- 1:35:39team to debut new parts apart from after Krampus.
- 1:35:42They when that was a success, they decided to, you know, use
- 1:35:46the tooling. Yeah, so I'd I'd love again the
- 1:35:52Middle Eastern sort of style and feel to stuff.
- 1:35:55Eric likes it. I'd love to see more of that in
- 1:35:57the line, any of the lines. But yeah, it could work here,
- 1:36:03this, yeah, Odysseus is is slightly more left field.
- 1:36:08It's probably the the least likely of the stuff that I've
- 1:36:10got, but it gives a chance to get Greek style armour and
- 1:36:15weapons. This is your area of expertise,
- 1:36:18or one of them? It is.
- 1:36:20I studied this at university. So the the ad in the oh God,
- 1:36:30what's it all called? He's so long in the civil
- 1:36:33service. Now he's.
- 1:36:34Got his education. Yeah.
- 1:36:36In the Odyssey. Yeah.
- 1:36:38So I know the background. I I really like the Greek style
- 1:36:42of stuff as well, sort of thing. It might be a bit too Mercurian,
- 1:36:45maybe if they wanted to go down a different route.
- 1:36:48But in terms of like a figure obscure and the accessories you
- 1:36:52could have, at one point Odysseus is strapped to the mast
- 1:36:56so he's not tempted by the sirens.
- 1:36:58So you could actually have a mast with him with like stuff to
- 1:37:00tie him to the mast. Sort of thing.
- 1:37:03Moving off, that would be a really cool accessory.
- 1:37:07And then maybe a cyclops head or a cyclops skull or something
- 1:37:10like that as well. OK, because that's in the.
- 1:37:13Do that, yeah. So just for the listeners here
- 1:37:18just to read the little blurb, Odysseus led his army in the
- 1:37:21Trojan War. After the war they encountered
- 1:37:24Sidon, God of the sea Cyclops, sirens, Cirrus.
- 1:37:31Is that Cirrus? And the Sea Dragons?
- 1:37:34After 20 years, he returned home to fight for his Kingdom and his
- 1:37:39queen. Just a bit nerd.
- 1:37:41I think that would be Cersei. Cersei.
- 1:37:43Sorry. OK, You shouldn't have told me.
- 1:37:46I wouldn't let you embarrass yourself first, slam you down
- 1:37:50afterwards. Fair again with this?
- 1:37:53Yes, there's there's the thing about him firing an arrow
- 1:37:55through lots of rings, sort of thing to prove that he he claims
- 1:38:00he is. I think they will presume he's
- 1:38:02dead and there's an impostor that's come back.
- 1:38:04Yeah, right, D'artagnan. D'artagnan, we've covered again.
- 1:38:11It's the soft goods, the different type of sword, a fancy
- 1:38:15beard. She's very under the beards
- 1:38:19tonight. I'm really under the beards,
- 1:38:20like I've got a giant beard myself.
- 1:38:22I'm going to say what I'm getting.
- 1:38:24Attached to tell you what. Give us a goatee for next week,
- 1:38:28Rich and my. Goatee wife would actually kill
- 1:38:32me, so. Right goatee rhymes with Don
- 1:38:35Coyote, so. I really like the idea of having
- 1:38:39Don Quixote, just just it was like a comedy element to it.
- 1:38:43So you could have pretty much any route you want to in terms
- 1:38:45of the look and that sort of thing.
- 1:38:46It's got the conquistas or sort of vibes generally, but you know
- 1:38:51you can come with a Lance, you could have like a the windmill
- 1:38:55sail accessory maybe, you know as he's trying to fight those.
- 1:39:01It just gives you lots of scope to do different things with and.
- 1:39:04I see from. The Halvo did a custom of it
- 1:39:06sort of thing, and it worked brilliantly in the sort of
- 1:39:08mythic. I'd love that was good,
- 1:39:09actually. And you can see here from the
- 1:39:14pictures he was in Deadpool. Can't make it some, I was.
- 1:39:16Going to say he's like Deadpool, the bottom, right?
- 1:39:17OK. Yeah, I didn't know that either.
- 1:39:21I'm sure our Deadpool fans can tell us and yeah, I'd be done
- 1:39:25for him. I mean, he might have to come
- 1:39:27with a horse then as well. So we're talking about Headless
- 1:39:30Horseman. That's.
- 1:39:30The other thing, yes, the cost would obviously then go up.
- 1:39:33Yeah, well, more money for them, less money for us, right?
- 1:39:38This one you need to you need to tell us more about because I
- 1:39:41rashes when you told us this. Yeah, he's a character from like
- 1:39:4519th century literature. Who is it?
- 1:39:47It's like a typical Alan Quartermain.
- 1:39:49So it's like a typical big game hunter type sort of character,
- 1:39:56you know, typical European in Africa sort of thing.
- 1:40:00But there's a couple of films in the 80s starring Richard
- 1:40:02Chamberlain as Alan Quartermain. Both really good films,
- 1:40:07actually. One of them was.
- 1:40:09Connery played him as well. Sean.
- 1:40:11Connery played him in the lead of Extraordinary Gentlemen,
- 1:40:13which was a God awful film. OK.
- 1:40:16So yeah, so let's skip past that bit.
- 1:40:19But no, you go out. Because I've not read it, but
- 1:40:25apparently the comic is very very good and the film was a let
- 1:40:28down so. Yeah, which happens an awful
- 1:40:32lot. Got the hands on stuff.
- 1:40:34Yeah, but here you can have like a Hunter's wide brimmed hat, you
- 1:40:37know that sort of typical look that you feel soft good safari
- 1:40:42outfit type hunter sort of look as well.
- 1:40:46Like a rifle and bullet belt. I'm not sure.
- 1:40:49I'm not sure whether that would be too far down the sort of
- 1:40:52route that the horsemen don't want to go in terms of guns and
- 1:40:56like hunting, trophy and all that sort of thing.
- 1:40:59They might not want to, but as a character and from the films, I
- 1:41:02love the films, so I would love to have fun go to me.
- 1:41:05Would you come with an opium accessory?
- 1:41:08Well, if they really want to push the boats out, they could
- 1:41:11do that, but. OK, cool.
- 1:41:14That's very unique. Definitely love that you come up
- 1:41:18with something like that and Long John Silver, which we
- 1:41:20talked about as well as most. Anyway, yeah.
- 1:41:24Hercules again, House of the Noble Bear.
- 1:41:30So this again is back to the Greek sort of thing.
- 1:41:32So you can have it gives you the option of doing like different
- 1:41:37shins and wrist straps to be more like that sort of Greek
- 1:41:40feel to it. He has a lion.
- 1:41:42Quite often he's portrayed with a lion head or lion pelt
- 1:41:47headdress sorts of things. That would be a really cool look
- 1:41:49as well and you'd have sandaled feet and bring those, so.
- 1:41:53He's a mixture of Attila and Atlas.
- 1:41:56No, not in any way, shape or form.
- 1:42:00The heck is wrong with you, but obviously he has all his trials
- 1:42:06and that as well, Hercules. So again, that gives you the
- 1:42:08option for like accessories and that sort of thing.
- 1:42:10Hercules would be a really cool one.
- 1:42:12Oh yeah. He was.
- 1:42:13He was on my list and then I saw you, he was on yours.
- 1:42:16So I I said that's fine, I'll leave him off.
- 1:42:19And awesome. Really awesome.
- 1:42:21Yeah, if you sold behind your head or something, that would be
- 1:42:24oh. Yeah, and then this is another
- 1:42:27great one. Yeah, this is my about this.
- 1:42:29I'm not doing horror, but Entry Doctor Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
- 1:42:35I would love love, love A2 pack so you'd have one skinnier
- 1:42:41build, maybe a 2.0 human again with sort of suit so you can go
- 1:42:47soft goods. Or you can just use some of the
- 1:42:49cloth arms they have at the moment and then a brute scale
- 1:42:53hide so just that bigger look, you know that.
- 1:42:57A more intimidating look. Or the other option is you can
- 1:43:01go one figure like a 1.0 scale with just different heads and
- 1:43:06then maybe a bigger torso for hide.
- 1:43:08I think you know if the the brute torso would would work
- 1:43:11fine with the 1.0 arms and that sort of thing.
- 1:43:14So just you know, you can just swap the torso on and just have
- 1:43:16a bigger torso with a different head sculpt.
- 1:43:19I I thought about this one because it fitted with that sort
- 1:43:22of gothic horror that they seem to be going down that route with
- 1:43:26some of the figures more than yeah, you know, when it comes to
- 1:43:29horror. Otherwise, I might have to wait
- 1:43:31till Halloween for it. But yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:43:37I think it gives us the option for a top hat, like a longer
- 1:43:41coat sort of thing, which I think would be cool things and
- 1:43:43like little potion bottles as well.
- 1:43:45And then people can take one of the potion bottles and give it
- 1:43:47to swig, maybe, and then calm down about that.
- 1:43:50Maybe we'll get back to having one swig.
- 1:43:55Take one swig of that and we're back down to one swig, right?
- 1:44:01Here's my list. So number one is my favorite
- 1:44:05character from childhood. I can't count the number of
- 1:44:08sticks I carved and bent and put string between as a kid and
- 1:44:14pretended to be Robin Hood. Between the amazing Robin of
- 1:44:19Sherwood series on British television and then the Kevin
- 1:44:23Costner movie, there was another movie around the same time with
- 1:44:25the What's his name? Can't remember the one I went to
- 1:44:30the cinema to see. I thought I was going to see the
- 1:44:33other one. Oh, it's the Irish actor, isn't
- 1:44:35it? In the Yeah, Patrick.
- 1:44:36Bergen does it, yes. So anyway, Robin Hood?
- 1:44:40Awesome. They already have the parts,
- 1:44:42pretty much. I mean, they could do a unique
- 1:44:43head sculpt, but other than that, everything is there.
- 1:44:48He'd be great soft goods or no soft goods.
- 1:44:52Any era of them, you know? Not sure the men in tights one
- 1:44:57would be too excited about. Yeah, we need a Dread Pirate,
- 1:45:03Robert, so they need to do a carry, Ells head sculpt.
- 1:45:06Yeah, and you know, accessories, you know, big pile of money in a
- 1:45:12bag, you know, bunch of gold coins, that kind of stuff.
- 1:45:16As well as the obviously your bow and your arrows and.
- 1:45:19Could this was like the Robin Hood too?
- 1:45:22Could this lead to the same sort of conundrum with some of the
- 1:45:24other ones where if you do Robin Hood, all of a sudden you need
- 1:45:27to do fry tuck? Yeah, little job of.
- 1:45:29Course people's and then? All of a sudden, they're taking
- 1:45:31up several places in there. But they don't think they're
- 1:45:35going to do that. I think Figure obscure is about
- 1:45:37the main character. Now the ghosts might might be
- 1:45:41different, but the way to do the ghosts next is to probably do
- 1:45:46them in a three pack or whatever.
- 1:45:48You know, like just do do a kind of pack that covers all the
- 1:45:53characters and then if you want to buy two of the pack to get
- 1:45:56your 3 ghosts, whatever. Well, I could see them doing two
- 1:46:01of them together because I can't remember which one it is.
- 1:46:05I think the Ghost of Christmas Past is a like a little impeach
- 1:46:10sort of childlike character. So yeah, that with something
- 1:46:15else they'd. Probably do, wouldn't they?
- 1:46:17That would be good, right? This was another cool one.
- 1:46:23Red Riding Hood and Wolf. So just a Red Riding Hood here,
- 1:46:27but it would be the Red Riding Hood and Wolf in the two pack as
- 1:46:31you see here. Down the bottom of the pictures
- 1:46:33look a bit different. This one in the middle to bring
- 1:46:36in from another place because it was just lots of sexy versions
- 1:46:41of Red Riding Hood in these pictures.
- 1:46:43Which OK fine, but that's not my Red Riding Hood and even the one
- 1:46:46here is looking a bit sexy. But the wolf and the kind of
- 1:46:50other picture here the wolf in the bed with the the thingy on
- 1:46:55the the woman's, the old. Little Granny's hand.
- 1:46:59Yeah, yeah, yeah. If they did what I would.
- 1:47:02Die a happy man when my time came, I tell you, like a yeah.
- 1:47:07And even the the main picture here at the top is the wolf is
- 1:47:10awesome And then you have this really like you know play by
- 1:47:13model Red Riding Hood which is like no thanks.
- 1:47:17And then you have this really sinister looking one with the
- 1:47:19blood in her face which is again probably no thanks.
- 1:47:22I'm more towards this old fashioned version would be
- 1:47:26amazing. There's a there's a Teen Titans
- 1:47:31episode, the cartoon there, where they're telling folk
- 1:47:35stories and one of them is Red Riding Hood, but she eats the
- 1:47:38wolf the other way around. She's just got this insatiable
- 1:47:41appetite. So he eats the wolf and then has
- 1:47:43to look after his family because that must be.
- 1:47:46That must be from that genre of story.
- 1:47:49So you'd be happy if you had Red Riding Hood and that as.
- 1:47:54Long as the Wolves included as well, yeah.
- 1:47:57I think it's essential. Yeah, yeah, be awesome.
- 1:48:02King Arthur is a great one. I mean, more Knights, please.
- 1:48:08I know you could say oh you have enough Knights and mythic and
- 1:48:11blah blah blah, but this would just be a cool one.
- 1:48:15And the sword and stone, the accessory sort of thing, yeah.
- 1:48:19That'd be awesome. And if you really want to go
- 1:48:21crazy, the round tables. Oh yeah, and then you just.
- 1:48:28Like. And then you just buy for, you
- 1:48:31know, also possible. But yeah, if you had their own
- 1:48:35table then you have a great. Display piece for they could do
- 1:48:38a round table as a bath piece in all future figure obscuras so
- 1:48:42you couldn't see it in the box. It wouldn't just it wouldn't
- 1:48:44distract from the the visual image you've got, but if you
- 1:48:46wanted to open it, there's a little part of a round table
- 1:48:48that you can add. Just keep going.
- 1:48:50Like a little pizza slice of around table.
- 1:48:53I've opened my Doctor Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and I've got another
- 1:48:56piece of table and hit my ghosts and only another six figure.
- 1:48:59Obscuras. And I've got a round table, and
- 1:49:04it comes with a stool, obviously.
- 1:49:05Each each table piece comes with a stool, obviously.
- 1:49:08Yeah, yeah. OK, Hercules, You covered.
- 1:49:11Rich. I had to keep it in because I
- 1:49:13really think it's cool. And I'd really wanted in that
- 1:49:18first picture on the bottom row here that people are looking.
- 1:49:21It's the kind of more barbarian with the as Rich was described.
- 1:49:25Not to Barbarian. Yeah, but Barbarian looking with
- 1:49:30the kind of the headpiece, the the lion mane headpiece.
- 1:49:35Amazing. I think if the horsemen were to
- 1:49:39do it would be maybe more of a helmet he type thing.
- 1:49:43Then we move on to the tiger from the Monkey King.
- 1:49:47I found out his name is the Vanguard Tiger and the best
- 1:49:50picture. The only good picture I could
- 1:49:52really find him was from the box art of the figure Obscura.
- 1:49:57But I mean, look at that figure. I mean just a tiger and excuse
- 1:50:00to get a tiger. Yeah figure from them.
- 1:50:04It's awesome. And you know you want to
- 1:50:08werewolf Mal. There's your web werewolf arms
- 1:50:12out there. Yeah, you start to get parts for
- 1:50:15other things as well, so yeah, that'd be cool.
- 1:50:19Yeah, so he'd probably be just because I'm a cat person, you'd
- 1:50:24probably be higher on my list than Pixie, but I would also be
- 1:50:27delighted with Pixie, if you can forgive me, Rich.
- 1:50:31No, that's I would love this character.
- 1:50:32I don't have no problem if they did him or on the Pixie.
- 1:50:34Yeah, and again he has a cool kind of almost like a machete
- 1:50:38type sword looking like they're in the picture.
- 1:50:40So you know another sword. And then my last one there.
- 1:50:45Also Doctor Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. He said it best but this is this
- 1:50:50would be an awesome selection for figure obscure and you could
- 1:50:55really go so many ways with it. As you said 2 pack or the half
- 1:51:00head type of thing here like they have is also funny
- 1:51:04representation or you know swappable face masks that kind
- 1:51:08of stuff. But yeah the two scale character
- 1:51:13that's the the ultimate level here so.
- 1:51:16Yeah. I think I talked about potion
- 1:51:18bottles, but you could actually have a spilt potion bottle too.
- 1:51:20So he's taking it and then dropped it on the floor because
- 1:51:23they've done the puddle of blood obviously so much.
- 1:51:25And you could have swig coming in the back door, though it's on
- 1:51:28the floor. I'm not sure you want Swig
- 1:51:32coming back. That's that's a very different
- 1:51:37take on the story, yeah. Right, that was us.
- 1:51:43I did ask you to read the. 1000 swig story Now it sounds like a
- 1:51:46gang bang. I'm not.
- 1:51:47I'm not going down that route. I did ask our patrons for their
- 1:52:03answers, for what figure obscures they'd want.
- 1:52:06So I'll read it. I'll read those on our discord.
- 1:52:09They sent us messages, so Dave Derrick says.
- 1:52:14The Jersey Devil, he says. He says some things about the
- 1:52:21residents of New Jersey that they talk a lot about it.
- 1:52:27Maybe not. Maybe too much his opinion, but
- 1:52:31let's say we love everyone from New Jersey and we visit there
- 1:52:34every November and we've always if.
- 1:52:36We have a Jersey Devil. Would it come with the freeway
- 1:52:38section as one of the accessories?
- 1:52:40Because that's New Jersey. Isn't there just freeways
- 1:52:42everywhere? Seems to be where we end up
- 1:52:45anyway, yeah? Where we are, yeah, absolutely.
- 1:52:47I did like I preferred last year's hotel, but the location
- 1:52:52of the previous one because you could walk from it, you know
- 1:52:54what I mean? Anyway, so for some so they and
- 1:53:02he says they think it's more famous than Bigfoot.
- 1:53:05Luck next month, Sir. Combined.
- 1:53:07Hopefully this has not affected Eric's brain.
- 1:53:10So far we've managed to see more literary, literary in your
- 1:53:15obscure. I'd love to see Sherlock Holmes,
- 1:53:17Robin Hood, Kanesh, Ganesh or Wizard of Oz.
- 1:53:21And they're all cool ones have to say.
- 1:53:24The Wizard of Oz is one that I wouldn't mind, but again, it's
- 1:53:27that problem of who do you do and what you do and all that.
- 1:53:32I'd love anything sort of Scarecrow related.
- 1:53:35It's kind of cool, but really, if you can do it was you.
- 1:53:38It's Dorothy, isn't it? If you're not all the Wizard, I
- 1:53:41suppose. Yeah.
- 1:53:43For sure. And then I think Sherlock Holmes
- 1:53:48would be cool as well, but it would be really stepping outside
- 1:53:51the parts of what do we have, you know, You know, that would
- 1:53:56really be. But again, that's their problem
- 1:53:58to solve I would say. And again these opium pipe that
- 1:54:04sort of stuff that. Oh yeah, we could have a whole
- 1:54:06opium team figures here. Yeah, yeah, and right.
- 1:54:16And then we have Jeremy Gouvier, he says.
- 1:54:21I'm hoping for Native American folklore like Coyote, Wendigo,
- 1:54:26Skinwalker, or maybe some Aztec mythology I'm not at all
- 1:54:30familiar with. So that's awesome.
- 1:54:33It's also cool that people, I think after a couple of the
- 1:54:36figures that we've got so far, they're not too worried about
- 1:54:40knowing the property that that that it is.
- 1:54:44They just know that they'll get a cool figure and it'll maybe
- 1:54:48get them more interested in in the in the property, you know?
- 1:54:54When what? Does that make sense?
- 1:54:55When we got the grey body, I did wonder if that might be the the
- 1:55:01body we need to get something like a Wendigo because it's
- 1:55:04usually. Like.
- 1:55:07Yeah. But I do think they could lean
- 1:55:10into more Native Americans again.
- 1:55:13It's surprised, You know, they, as Wyatt has told us, they have
- 1:55:17Sherry, who's Native American, in their team, so she'd be able
- 1:55:22to advise them on any sort of cultural sensitivity stuff so
- 1:55:28they wouldn't be stepping on any any toes there.
- 1:55:30So it could be really awesome, right?
- 1:55:36And Kevin and Boots, he says. Red Riding Hood and Wolf.
- 1:55:42So we've covered that. Kevin, hope you're happy with
- 1:55:47our suggestions. Then we have Ralph he Al he.
- 1:55:52We also asked about version 2's but most of them focused on the
- 1:55:56figure obscura so hope they managed to get through the first
- 1:55:59half of the episode. OK Balaam is his favorite for
- 1:56:04version 2 with less armor and some of the new magic stuff from
- 1:56:09Fox's wave. And I think as we said more
- 1:56:11animal parts. So like the claws.
- 1:56:13Maybe even Unarmored Arms or something would be cool.
- 1:56:19Figure obscurity like something Western style.
- 1:56:22So we talked a bit about Western legions before Buffalo Bill,
- 1:56:26Wilderp, Lucky Luke or An American Werewolf.
- 1:56:29So they're all awesome choices, I think.
- 1:56:33No, no, definitely right. Matt, you also sent me through
- 1:56:39the Doug Tanyon stuff from that movie, so I really like that
- 1:56:44look. Yeah, that's that's slightly
- 1:56:45different to what I was talking about.
- 1:56:46That's way better. And so with the leather boots,
- 1:56:51here we go with your leather boots.
- 1:56:53Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we've got them from, We've
- 1:56:56got them from Marley and. I'm slightly obsession with
- 1:57:00leather boots. Imagine he's got he's got a
- 1:57:02folder on his computer, just leather boots.
- 1:57:04Just an action. Figures.
- 1:57:05It's like all there. An action figure that Aramis is
- 1:57:09the third one from this side and he's got the actual Mali style
- 1:57:13boots on. Oh yeah.
- 1:57:16Oh yeah, he does. Doesn't he?
- 1:57:17So yeah, and that. Pick the hat.
- 1:57:19Are awesome as well. Yeah, yeah, that was.
- 1:57:22Well, when they're wearing them as well, they'll be floppy hats
- 1:57:25with the feathers and the yeah. So then that picture, it's
- 1:57:29d'artagnan at the front, Porthos next to him, Aramis next to him
- 1:57:33and Athos. No, got that.
- 1:57:38I forgot that the right way around.
- 1:57:41Is the older? Rich Can you remember older,
- 1:57:43older ones? I can't remember it to be
- 1:57:46honest. No, Yeah.
- 1:57:47Yeah, I'm sure I've got that the right way around, but.
- 1:57:49Yeah, let's be confident. Go with it.
- 1:57:54Right Yoho, Right. I think that's all we have.
- 1:58:00My last piece of advice for everyone is to avoid Retro
- 1:58:04Troy's Hamburg on eBay, who are sculpting the rare figures from
- 1:58:10the mystery boxes. Now are all the figures Red
- 1:58:13Shield soldier. If you open with them, it's 155.
- 1:58:15Cador is 200, Godfrey's 200, so they'll never sell.
- 1:58:19So best of luck to you. Official retailers well for
- 1:58:23horsemen. So you know, maybe I don't know
- 1:58:25what your policy is on that, but it's not cool.
- 1:58:28No respect for the community there.
- 1:58:29With those prices, you can charge what you like, but like,
- 1:58:33you know, come on. Yeah, they're just trying to
- 1:58:37hope somebody hasn't realized that there's been a recent
- 1:58:40mystery box sale and they can just charge over there like.
- 1:58:42Yeah, exactly. It's like they've, yeah, always
- 1:58:45come across these rare figures. It's like, no, you just spent
- 1:58:48money that you got off some more poor fortunate that overpaid for
- 1:58:52a valiant night off you and now you're you're trying to scout
- 1:58:56them on this. Yeah.
- 1:58:58So I hope they got the thousands swigs in their mystery boxes.
- 1:59:08All righty, on that positive note, let's get out of here.
- 1:59:11Thanks for that boys. That was fun.
- 1:59:13Predictions are always fun, I find, and hopefully we get to be
- 1:59:18proved wrong very soon. Fingers crossed.
- 1:59:24We want some more money to be given away, our money to the
- 1:59:28forest and. Stay safe, everybody.
- 1:59:30Don't crash your car while you're trying to think what a
- 1:59:32bigger obscure will come out. None.