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Elon Musk SapceX Starship Talk at Starbase, Texas · Elon Musk Podcast

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  Hey. Alright, welcome, welcome,
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  welcome, welcome, welcome. Welcome to Starbase.
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  So it's been almost two years since I last update and a lot
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  has happened since then, but I'm getting like a stranger audio
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  feedback? I don't know.
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  If do, I sound okay to you guys? Okay, great.
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  So it's been two years since we had our first mark one rocket
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  and a lot has happened since then we had to go through the
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  progress but I'm just incredibly proud of the The SpaceX team and
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  all the support that we received from Cameron County for
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  Brownsville from South Padre. And if I know some of you in the
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  audience, it's a thank you very much for your support. so, So
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  before we jump into the details of what what's happened over the
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  past 22 years? I think it's worth just talking
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  a bit about this like, like, why, why are we doing this, you
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  know, this I mean, pretty epic. But, but what's the, what's the
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  sort of the sort of deep meaning behind this, like, why beloved
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  Giant reusable rocket. Why make life multiplanetary?
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  And I think this is just an incredibly important thing for
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  the future of life itself. So, and this, this this there's
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  both a quote that the sort of the, the, the defense of reason
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  or the life insurance reason, that's one part of it, which is
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  that there's always some chance that something could go wrong on
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  Earth. You dinosaurs are not around
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  anymore. So you know we could that could
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  be some Calamity that we we do ourselves in or there's just
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  there's a natural disaster now. I'm naturally an optimist.
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  So I think the probability of that is low but it is not zero
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  and and eventually the sun will expand, it might take a few
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  hundred million years so don't hold your breath but eventually
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  the sun will expand and destroy all life.
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  So for those who really care about, not just the humans, but
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  all the life on Earth, it is very important essential that
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  over the long term that we become a multi-planet species.
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  And ultimately, even go beyond the solar system.
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  Item and bring life with us. And, you know, we are Life
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  Stewart's life's Guardians that, you know, the the creatures that
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  we love cannot they can't build spaceships but we can and we can
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  bring them with us and I think that's pretty important, you
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  know, for those that care about the environment and care about
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  all the creatures on Earth that's like that, that I would
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  say like the defensive or the life insurance reason for life
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  collectively but there's also an inspiring reason which is that
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  life. It can't just be about solving
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  problems. They have to be things that
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  inspire you that, that move your heart.
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  That make, you glad to be there. When you wake up in the morning,
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  you're excited about the future and going out there and pick up
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  being a multi-planet species, and being a spacefaring
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  civilization, and making science fiction, and not fiction
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  forever. I think that's one of those
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  things, you know, I think we, that's just it, that's what
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  fires me up. The most is, like, let's go out
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  there and find out what this universe is all about.
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  You know, are there other species out there, maybe?
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  You know, hopefully that it's, I mean, we ever want to go find
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  out what the heck's going on, what is going on?
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  I mean, way, you know, how do we get here?
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  What's the meaning of life 42? But what if it, what's the
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  question? And, you know, if we go out
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  there and we explore the Galaxy, ultimately then we can find out
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  some of these questions and it would just be a very exciting to
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  do that and so we can all look forward to And even, you know,
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  whether somebody chooses to go or not, I think you know
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  vicariously. We can all go there just like
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  with Apollo where, you know, only a handful of people went to
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  the moon. But in a sense we all went their
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  humanity went there. And so even if somebody doesn't
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  choose to go themselves, I think vicariously through others, they
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  will go, they will understand, they will experience the
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  universe and I think that's incredibly Mental to an exciting
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  future. And that's, that's why we're
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  doing this. So,
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  and Yeah. Now one of the rebuttals will
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  sometimes hear is like you sure. But what about all the problems
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  on Earth and I completely agree that the vast majority of
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  resources should be dedicated to solving problems on Earth.
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  Absolutely, I'd say like more than 99% of our resources should
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  be oriented towards solving problems on Earth.
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  It's a but it's important to note that like NASA's annual
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  budget. It is only Point three percent
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  Point, 36 percent of the federal budget.
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  And in fact I love the national GDP, it's less than a tenth of a
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  percentage point. So it's like we're you know
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  we're only spending point one percent of our resources on
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  space. I think I think we get that's
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  okay. You know, like we will be
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  flying, you know. So just you know, just make sure
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  people don't think like, well we is he suggesting that we just
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  spend everything on space. No, I'm suggesting.
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  We would like maybe half a percent.
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  Or something like that, we would probably be.
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  Okay. So and I think, you know, given
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  the, this establishing security for life itself and having
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  exciting future and inspiring that, you know, kids about the
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  future. I think it's it's worth it
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  basically. Yeah.
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  So well, how do we do this? How do we make life
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  multiplanetary? How do what's the first step and
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  the essential technology? The Holy Grail breakthrough
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  that's needed, is a rapid and completely reusable rocket
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  system. So this is never been
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  accomplished before and there's a lot of people for longest time
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  thought, this is not possible. Now, with Falcon 9, we've been
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  able to show that You can have, you can have reuse of Abu stage
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  and reuse of the ferry. So with Falcon 9, we've
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  demonstrated a lot of reuse of the Brew stage and of the
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  fairing. We've have over 100 Reef Lights
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  of the fairing over its of the booster.
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  And I'm not sure of the ferry number but it's a lot.
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  And and that's a, that's a big step in the right direction.
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  With Starship, we're aiming for Full and Rapid reusability.
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  So You know, we're up to, I need to accomplish that, that's not
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  done yet, but but the success is one of the possible outcomes,
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  which I always think, is when embarking on an Endeavor,
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  success, should be, at least one of the possible outcomes.
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  And this for this design, that is the case.
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  So, the and we're aiming for Rapid or usability, which is why
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  the Brewster's is going to take off and then fly back to the
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  launch Tower and aspirationally gets land on the arms.
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  Which is the sound insane or as well, Riley would say audacious
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  and, but I, you know, if, if it does come in too fast and, and
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  Shear off the arms, then I guess it will be a Farewell to Arms.
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  Sorry, there's the dad jokes. You know, is it?
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  I said, To warn you, they're only going to get worse.
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  So yeah. So here I'd really just like to
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  congratulate the SpaceX team and and also thank NASA.
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  The fa, the space force and everyone and all of our
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  customers that have helped us get to this point.
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  It's insanely hard to get a rocket to orbit.
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  It's the only difficult to have huge respect.
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  Anyone who's gotten a rocket to orbit since it's so hard and
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  we've had 144 successful launches 106 Landings?
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  Yeah, I mean, I've had these days.
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  I have to look on the internet. Say, how many things are?
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  We had a but I have to ask the internet.
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  So 83 flight flight, proven launches and Although I have to
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  say, I still have like, like launch PTSD every time the
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  rocket takes off of my God, you know.
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  I'd actually I just see all the ways that it could fail like
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  better, you know. And then this this year we're
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  actually aiming to have around 50 launches so it's about a
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  launch per week on average. And yeah so it's healthier we
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  got ahead of us and in terms of The master orbit, if you look at
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  like tonnage to orbit, this, this bar chart that will show
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  here really illustrates how profound a rapidly reusable
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  rocket. Especially a big one is what
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  effect that has on total tonnage to orbit.
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  So the total of Master orbit to date of Earth is around 15,000
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  tons. Maybe fifteen, sixteen thousand.
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  Tons and the mass per Starship after a year, just one year of
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  launching. If it launches three times a day
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  would be equal to all the mass of to orbit of Earth to date.
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  That's that's just one Starship. Launching three times a day for
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  a year. Now, if you have You know, 10
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  Starships ish then and we'll have more than that.
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  Our goal is to be making at least a one stack per month and
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  then ultimately, potentially a ship, every three days, they'll
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  be more ships than there are boosters because the booster
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  actually even those gigantic will come back in about six
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  minutes excitement, guaranteed. So, it only takes about two
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  minutes on a scent, and then about four minutes to return
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  you'll know. Soon, the, there's the ship has
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  to complete at least one orbit around Earth and sometimes maybe
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  three orbits or more, and each orbit is 90 minutes.
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  So the ship is probably, you know, a reusable about every 6th
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  six to eight hours. That's, that's why we say, sort
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  of three times a day for the ship.
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  The theory, the booster is capable of being reused every
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  hour, so that the propellant pumps are designed to fill the
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  rocket in about half an hour. So the this really is designed
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  for Rapid reusability. So it with, if you can do
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  roughly a million tons of Earth orbit, that's comfortably over
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  100,000, tons to the service of Mars, maybe 150,000 tons
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  depending on how good the landing system is so that you
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  can only go to Mars every two years.
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  So and I think maybe roughly you need about a million tons on
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  Mars to have eight self-sustaining City, but the
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  critical threshold, I think for Mars is to have a city that is
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  self-sustaining, it's going to be Really difficult to make a
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  self-sustaining City. Because if it's missing any
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  ingredient, any agreement at all, however, minor that
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  ingredient is. Then if the ships from Earth,
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  stop coming for any reason, the city will die out.
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  So the critical threshold to pass.
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  One of the most important, great filters for any species is to
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  have have the the other planet no longer dependence on on the
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  original Planet. So, I don't know exactly what
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  that tonnage is but I suspected as at least, if one tries to get
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  the right order of magnitude about a million tons.
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  Hopefully, it's not more than that.
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  Starship is capable of doing that, it's capable of getting
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  creating a self-sustaining City. I think we should try to do that
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  as soon as we can. The window of opportunity may be
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  open for a long time and I hope it is but it may also be open
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  for a short time and this is the first this is the first point in
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  the four and a half billion year history of Earth that it has
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  been possible. I mean, let that sink in or if
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  there's a sink, let it in so knocking at the door.
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  I mean, it's a sentient sing. Let's face it letter.
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  I mean, I mean, so, Four and a half billion years.
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  Been a while. This is the first time it's been
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  possible. We need to seize the opportunity
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  and do it as quickly as possible.
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  I'm going to be frank civilization is feeling a little
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  fragile these days. And like I said, I'm an
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  optimist, but we got to protect it outside here and and try to
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  build out sooner and Mars as soon as possible and secure the
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  future of life. And it's going to be an
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  incredibly exciting Adventure. Now the the sales pitch for fork
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  for going to Mars is that it's going to be cramped.
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  Dangerous difficult, very hard work, you might die, and that's
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  the sales pitch. I hope you like it so far from
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  being in. Some sort of escape hatch, it
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  will be extremely difficult and dangerous.
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  Louis and Anne tough. Mars Mars is a fixer-upper of a
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  planet and so it's going to take some work to make it make it
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  easier to live there, but one day we could make Mars a planet
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  like Earth. I think we should So just some
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  facts about Starship and these, these numbers will evolve over
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  time. So Heights of the ship is about
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  50 meters, 164 feet, the 9, M 0 0, 30 foot diameter.
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  Well, you can just see it. Basically, it's got about 1,200
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  tons of propound on the ship and thrust is about 1,500 tons.
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  Now, these numbers will It will probably add more per pound over
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  time. Increase thrust diameter will
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  stay the same, it's a huge, huge pain to change diameter, so that
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  that will tend to stay the same, but it'll probably get a little
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  bit longer. And we're expecting payload
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  capacity of 100 to 150 tons depending on on which orbit.
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  So, to to a starling Corbett, roughly 100 tons over time.
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  I think we can probably get the Orbit for orbital refilling.
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  The payload to orbit for orbital refilling to about 200 tons
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  which is going to be very important for getting to Mars.
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  So we're getting to Mars. You also need the orbital
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  refilling just like you have aerial refueling.
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  The Rockets will need orbital refilling, it's actually mostly
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  oxygen. The there's three and a half
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  tons of oxygen for every 1 ton of fuel so that's why it's
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  refilling. Not refueling. so, Heat shield.
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  So this is the world's largest heat shield and this is we
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  actually make this at at a little factory in Florida near
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  Cape Canaveral. I recalled the bakery and we're
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  actually using a lot of techniques that are used for
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  roofing tiles. So we need to have a heat shield
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  that is capable of resisting extreme heat but also is not
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  crazy expensive and I'll heat shield.
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  Team is done done. Amazing work in creating the
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  world's largest. Heat shield and one that is
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  reusable but also robust and low-cost.
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  So it's not a it's not a crazy money heat shield and yeah need
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  need good heat shield technology for entering from orbit, orbit
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  or refilling. We were going to do an animation
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  of this but it looked a bit wrong. it is a fluid transfer,
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  like, so, Yeah. Play a little Barry White, you
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  know? Okay, so that's one of the
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  technologies that is necessary for getting to Mars, so the ship
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  would get to orbit with with payload.
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  And and then, then in orbit, weird refill, the tanks.
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  So, it have enough propellant to, to get to Mars, Mars is far.
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  So now with this is essentially docking in orbit.
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  And, and I with dragon docking with the space station, this is
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  a technology that we've, that SpaceX has become quite good at
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  we've done. I think this point a couple
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  dozen dockings with the space station, and it's actually The
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  way harder to dock with the space station, then to dock with
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  yourself. So this is you know it is a
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  thing. We need to solve for Starship
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  and I'm confident that we can do this because we've done a lot of
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  overall ducking already with dragon but this is going to be
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  an important thing to to demonstrate what be necessary in
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  the near term for stalling launches, but it will be
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  necessary for for Mars and the Moon.
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  So let's see, super super heavy booster, so it was 70 meters but
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  then there was an extra half barrel section that the team
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  deleted and totally accidentally it 69 M.
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  It's also boost or foreign ship 20, I mean this is a pure
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  coincidence. I those what numbers won't leave
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  me alone, I just hope it's good luck.
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  So yeah, so so propelling capacity is like around 3400,
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  tons. I think this likes to these
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  little, probably it will increase over time.
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  Probably gets a 36. Maybe thirty eight hundred tons
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  thrusters around 76 hundred tons that will probably increase to
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  over time. Just to put this into
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  perspective though. The Saturn 5 was seven and a
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  half million pounds of thrust and Starship is 17.
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  So it's more than twice the thrust of a Saturn 5 which was
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  quite that was that's the largest rocket ever to get to
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  orbit. As with any super heavy is the
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  largest flying object of any kind or will be, it's yeah.
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  But very big. You can see it right there.
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  The the that booster has 29 engines, the next booster, we
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  actually increase the entrant count 233, we're kind of bounce
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  around on engine count, But because I think one point we had
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  like thirty seven engines and they weren't 229, we're finally
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  settled on 33 engines which it which is about actually the most
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  number of engines. You can actually fit under that
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  that booster without like expanding the diameter.
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  Yeah, and then this this Tower this Tower from from design to
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  construction was the 13 months. So it's quite an quite an epic
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  structure. It's really worth emphasizing
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  that the whole launch system, which is basically stage 0 is
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  I'd say as complex and difficult as either the booster or the
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  ship. So I really want to emphasize
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  that this is And it's a very difficult thing that requires a
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  lot of Hardcore engineering and its really, like I said, the
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  Tower and the launch system which I call stage. 0 is just as
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  important as stage 1 and Stage 2.
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  I mean, this is really some some wild stuff here.
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  In fact, I mean hard to believe it's real except, you know, it
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  right there so Yeah. Then Raptor development rapper.
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  One was 185 tons of thrust Raptor to is 230 tons of thrust
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  and I think over time we can get that to probably 250 tons.
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  So that's and it's also significantly simplified.
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  So you can see the difference between V1 and V2.
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  This the V2 is, there's you know, if you want to looks like
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  kind of like a Christmas tree Spaghetti pile, a lot of fiddly
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  bits and V2 is greatly simplified while also increasing
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  thrust at the same time. So it's actually Raptor to cost
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  about half as much as raptor1, despite having much more thrust.
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  And I think just generally being a much easier engine to build
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  and a more robust engine. So, very excited about Raptor
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  version. To and it's only going to get
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  better from here. So yeah, so referred to is
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  pretty sick and we're actually the peak trust that we've
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  operated Raptor to edit this point as 247 tons.
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  And so I'm confident that with some improvements we can we can
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  get to at 250 ton operating point and And I continue to
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  simplify and sort of robust defy the engine.
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  So it's really, it's a spectacular piece of engineering
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  extremely difficult to make and succeed.
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  This is engine has been mind-bogglingly difficult, but
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  it is one of the essential keys to, I mean, this is, it is
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  essential to, obviously, to making Starship work.
• 28:48
  It'll be the first full flow, staged combustion engine to get
• 28:53
  to orbit. Yeah, kind of need that need.
• 28:59
  That is p and thrust to weight. So so why Starbase lot of people
• 29:08
  I could like say like why it's obvious, why why here and We
• 29:15
  kind of needed a Confluence of factors.
• 29:19
  The getting to orbit, you want to launch Eastward so that you
• 29:23
  have help from Earth's rotation. So the closer you are to the
• 29:27
  Equator, the more of a sort of a boost from Earth rotation that
• 29:31
  you get. So you want to be as soft as
• 29:34
  possible and launched Eastward and then, you know, it's always
• 29:39
  possible that something goes wrong.
• 29:43
  And so you want to have A, a good clear area.
• 29:46
  You want several miles around the launch site to be
• 29:52
  unpopulated, or at least clearable, and that doesn't
• 29:56
  actually leave a lot of options. It's basically here and, and
• 30:02
  Cape Canaveral. Okay, Kennedy is where other two
• 30:05
  possibilities and then because we have had a lot of launches,
• 30:09
  going out of the cape. We didn't want to disrupt the
• 30:13
  cape. Tivity, the operational launches
• 30:16
  with sort of the advanced R&D of Starship.
• 30:21
  So it was important to decouple the operational launches from
• 30:26
  the, from the R&D launches, and that's why, that's why we're at
• 30:30
  this location. And once again, I just like to
• 30:34
  thank Cameron County, and Brownsville South Padre Padre,
• 30:39
  and the remaining residents of Boca Chica village where I live.
• 30:48
  By the way, it's my primary residence is that little village
• 30:51
  over there so, and it's been great, it's been great being
• 30:57
  here and yeah, like super appreciate the support of the
• 31:00
  community. Yeah, all right.
• 31:04
  Thank you. So we've got a video to show
• 31:17
  what we hope will happen with launch.
• 31:24
  Play it now. Oh wait, sorry, we have a so of
• 31:33
  covering Starship missions orbital flight is really just
• 31:37
  the beginning. So we're going to have a number
• 31:41
  of starlink missions that will launch stalling, satellite
• 31:45
  version 2. But even more exciting than that
• 31:50
  is the the NASA human space flight Mission.
• 31:54
  We're incredibly honored to that that NASA has selected Starship.
• 31:59
  Europe to take astronauts, back to the moon for the first time
• 32:04
  in half a century, which is kind of mind-blowing.
• 32:14
  I just like to say, like we're SpaceX is just deeply honored
• 32:17
  and appreciative that, that Master would choose us for this
• 32:22
  incredibly important Mission, and We'll get it done.
• 32:28
  And then there's also the dear moon mission which is going to
• 32:34
  take artists around the moon and that's a sucker miyazawa and
• 32:41
  he's a gigantic going to select, I think a dozen artists and and
• 32:47
  do a loop around the Moon. To be very exciting.
• 32:50
  And there's going to be some future announcements that I
• 32:52
  think people will be pretty fired up about.
• 32:54
  So, All right, super exciting. Future ahead with this probably
• 33:01
  be a few bumps in the road you know.
• 33:03
  But we want to iron those out with satellite missions and test
• 33:07
  missions and and and get to a high flight rate and then have
• 33:12
  something that's extremely reliable for for human
• 33:14
  spaceflight. So yeah.
• 38:20
  All right. Let's make this real.
• 38:38
  Any questions? Just make less real.
• 38:56
  Fire away, anyone? I can't see you soon.
• 38:59
  Probably have a yell it out or something.
• 39:03
  Yes, this six Raptors on Starship, currently three with
• 39:08
  the vacuum nozzle, three sea level.
• 39:10
  Sorry, check John. And I think if I would say like
• 39:16
  we're probably end up adding another three vacuum engines,
• 39:19
  they kind of, you know, fill in the gaps and stretch the ship I
• 39:24
  think is going to make a lot of sense.
• 39:29
  You'll have to yell unfortunately psyches.
• 39:33
  We are building a launch site. A Starship launch launch Tower
• 39:39
  at 39a at Cape Kennedy and we are also building a Starship
• 39:45
  production facility at the cape, so we'll have production
• 39:48
  facility and launch site here and a production facility in
• 39:50
  launch site at the cape as well. Support to have redundancy over
• 40:00
  here. I've got lice in my eyes.
• 40:02
  So unfortunately, I can't say I'm blinded so I can hear what
• 40:07
  the speakers coming from you should.
• 40:10
  I believe you're expecting to hear in a couple weeks about the
• 40:14
  possible finding of no significant impact from the FAA.
• 40:18
  Have you gotten any indications if that's going to come through
• 40:21
  and what is your time frame? Aim for the orbital flight test.
• 40:26
  Thanks. Well, we don't have, we don't
• 40:32
  have a ton of insight into the where things stand with the FAA.
• 40:37
  We have gotten, sort of a rough indication that there may be an
• 40:42
  approval in March but that's that's all we know.
• 40:48
  So how you Lon Marcus Harvey? Can you talk about the
• 40:54
  point-to-point capability? Where is there a possibility
• 40:56
  between here and Cape? Canaveral?
• 41:00
  Oh well yeah, I guess technically.
• 41:02
  Yes. So I mean depending on on how
• 41:08
  good things get with with Starship, they are some
• 41:11
  scenarios where it might actually be the lowest cost
• 41:15
  means of transporting cargo long distances.
• 41:22
  So the interesting thing is that the capital efficiency of of a
• 41:27
  rocket is as much better than the capital efficiency of a
• 41:30
  plane for long-distance flights. So if you now this would really
• 41:34
  be more for Or, you know, if you're going like, I don't know,
• 41:37
  a quarter or third, or half way around the world, where, you
• 41:42
  know, if, if you went from, I don't know.
• 41:45
  Say here to Singapore or something like that as a long
• 41:49
  flight. So, I mean, I don't know how
• 41:52
  long that is. I'm not sure you can even go
• 41:53
  there non-stop, but it's probably like 20 hours plus and
• 41:59
  but in a rocket it would be less than an hour.
• 42:02
  So like 45 minutes or thereabouts.
• 42:04
  So That means your be able to use the rocket 20 times more
• 42:11
  often than than an aircraft. So it's 20 times the capital
• 42:15
  efficiency so provided the propellant cost is, you know,
• 42:22
  competitive with with aircraft and bear in mind like a saying
• 42:26
  like it's this three and a half tons of of liquid oxygen for
• 42:31
  every one ton of fuel. So and Liquid oxygen is
• 42:36
  basically just elect the cost of electricity and yeah, because
• 42:43
  it's in the are basically. So I'd there is a scenario where
• 42:48
  it's economically compelling to do long-distance cargo and and
• 42:53
  people transport with Starship. I've been very cool and I think
• 43:00
  that that would be great for getting a lot of a high flight
• 43:02
  rate and you know, business case for supporting a lot of
• 43:06
  Starships operating basically, nothing's faster than, you know,
• 43:11
  an ICBM We got a question right here, Ilan.
• 43:16
  Right in the middle right here. Right?
• 43:17
  Hands up hands up in the, I mean, it's either, they have
• 43:21
  lights in my eyes and I its pitch dark.
• 43:23
  In front of me is fine. High on Michael sheets with.
• 43:26
  CNBC you open this presentation by addressing a little bit of
• 43:30
  the criticism that's been aimed at space travel being seen as
• 43:33
  maybe a pet project or not really valuable to folks have
• 43:37
  problems here on Earth. I was wondering if you get a
• 43:38
  little more into the specifics on comparing not just the US
• 43:42
  government spending that's happening on space travel.
• 43:44
  Versus other things. But maybe in terms of SpaceX
• 43:47
  itself how you and private investment on a dollar value
• 43:51
  compares to the taxpayer funded projects or contracts that
• 43:55
  SpaceX is 1 over the years. what I think, you know the
• 44:01
  objectively the cost efficiency of SpaceX is the the best in
• 44:09
  history, I think for any rocket development and we are talking
• 44:15
  about a You know, a rocket that's taught more than twice
• 44:21
  the mass and thrust of a Saturn 5 and also designed to be fully
• 44:24
  reusable, which is obviously also much better for from an
• 44:27
  environmental standpoint. Have a fully reusable rocket for
• 44:32
  a development cost that is I don't know, between 5 and 10% of
• 44:37
  Saturn 5. So that's pretty good.
• 44:43
  Because we need to make it work so work yet, but it's a, it will
• 44:46
  work. Might be a few bumps along the
• 44:49
  road but it'll work. I feel At this point, highly
• 44:56
  confident that we'll get to orbit this year.
• 45:00
  That's, you know, we're making a lot of rockets making a lot of
• 45:03
  engines were close to achieving one Raptor to Everyday
• 45:10
  production rate. So we're sort of seven a week,
• 45:15
  which is tough for our complex engine.
• 45:18
  And I think by the end of this year, we'll be able to produce a
• 45:22
  ship in a booster per month. So, so, This is, this is, I
• 45:28
  don't know, at least an order of magnitude.
• 45:30
  Maybe maybe tours magnitude more efficient than anything in the
• 45:33
  past. yeah, so Hey Ilan, this we were left for supercluster.
• 45:47
  Just wondering what does spacex's plan and timeline look
• 45:50
  like if the FAA ultimately decided to do a deeper
• 45:54
  environmental review of Starbase and then one other thing I might
• 45:58
  be able to give us an updated figure on what it costs to
• 46:03
  Starship and what it would store Kosta Kosta VAR Q 2 by a 1 1.
• 46:08
  Thanks. Yeah, I mean, I I am optimistic
• 46:12
  that we will get approval like I think they're objectively.
• 46:19
  I think this is not something that will be harmful to the
• 46:23
  environment. We've obviously flown the ship
• 46:26
  several times and done, you know, multiple Landings and
• 46:30
  takeoffs landings. We fired the engines a lot.
• 46:32
  So I think the reality is that that it would not have a
• 46:38
  significant impact. Now of course the that doesn't
• 46:43
  mean things don't get delayed from a regulatory standpoint and
• 46:48
  we are in a litigious society and so there's this or sort of
• 46:52
  lawsuits from someone's lawsuit City.
• 46:56
  So now we do have the alternative of the cape and we
• 47:02
  actually applied for environmental approval for
• 47:05
  launch from the cape a few years ago and received it.
• 47:09
  So we actually are Approved from an environmental standpoint to
• 47:12
  launch from 39a. So I guess I'll worst-case
• 47:16
  scenario is that we would, I don't know if you'd be delayed
• 47:21
  for 466 or six to eight months to build up the cape launch
• 47:28
  Tower and launch from there. From a cost standpoint.
• 47:37
  The costs will improve significantly over time so
• 47:45
  because it'll take us a moment to achieve full reusability and
• 47:49
  full of Rapid reusability, will probably lose a few Vehicles
• 47:52
  along the way with Falcon 9. I think it took us 14 or 15
• 48:00
  attempts to successfully land the first booster.
• 48:04
  I don't think it'll take us that many with Starship, because we
• 48:08
  have that experience, but it's certainly not a sure thing that
• 48:12
  it'll work the first time I from a cost standpoint.
• 48:22
  I mean it's a hundred ton capability to orbit.
• 48:28
  On a marginal cost to launch basis, you know, that doesn't
• 48:32
  count fixed costs, which obviously have to be covered.
• 48:35
  It may be as little as a few million dollars per flight,
• 48:40
  maybe even as low as a million dollars per flight.
• 48:43
  So this is crazy. These are crazy low numbers by
• 48:46
  space standards. Crazy low.
• 48:51
  Now, we do have to cover fixed cost.
• 48:53
  So depending on what I launched rate is, we have to divide the
• 48:57
  fixed cost by the number of launches.
• 48:59
  So the more launches that happen, the lower the total cost
• 49:03
  of fully considered cost per flight would be But I'm highly
• 49:10
  confident. It would be less than ten
• 49:12
  million dollars all in over. You know, if you say like fast
• 49:17
  forward like two or three years from now, I think it's highly
• 49:20
  likely to be everything included, less than 10 million
• 49:24
  dollars, a flight for 100 ton to overt capability and hundred
• 49:28
  tons to a useful. Oh but not to a low orbit to a
• 49:31
  low over to be 150 times. So this is ridiculously good.
• 49:37
  Bye compared to everything else and it should be.
• 49:40
  Because if you think of like, if this was a, if aircraft were not
• 49:46
  reusable, how much would an air ticket cost?
• 49:49
  I mean, you know, it's like for what, you know, a 787 or triple
• 49:56
  seven goes for these days. I do a few hundred million
• 49:58
  dollars. The if you had to spend two
• 50:01
  hundred million dollars, every flight, it would be very
• 50:04
  expensive. Pensive to fly somewhere.
• 50:05
  I you need two of them for another one, for the return
• 50:08
  trip. So, obviously be absurd.
• 50:14
  So you can imagine if we were in a world where aircraft Were
• 50:17
  Expendable, and then someone came along with a reusable
• 50:21
  aircraft, it would be an absolutely profound game
• 50:24
  changer. That's what that's what needs to
• 50:29
  happen for life to become multiplanetary and that's that's
• 50:32
  what this design. I'm confident is is capable of
• 50:36
  that? It's just a question of how long
• 50:38
  it will take to refine that and have it really dialed.
• 50:45
  Hi. Hi ha.
• 50:49
  Sorry, this is and realign Felder of the Houston Chronicle.
• 50:53
  I wanted to know when and how do you plan to test Starship
• 50:58
  refueling in space and also aside from NASA?
• 51:01
  Dear Moon, and Starling can you elaborate on the potential
• 51:03
  customer base for Starship. Thank you.
• 51:11
  I apologize actually was zoned out for a second.
• 51:14
  I was thinking about something. Could you say that question
• 51:16
  again? Sorry.
• 51:22
  When and okay, when and how do you plan a test Starship
• 51:28
  refueling in space and aside from NASA?
• 51:31
  Dear Moon, and starlene can you elaborate on potential customers
• 51:34
  for Starship? Thank you.
• 51:38
  I think open or refilling and I won't have size.
• 51:42
  It is refilling not refueling because it's a three and a half
• 51:44
  times as much oxygen than fuel. So we mostly are carrying oxygen
• 51:49
  up there. Optimistically towards the end
• 51:55
  of next year. I think I'd be surprised if it's
• 52:00
  longer than two years for doing the refilling.
• 52:06
  And there are a lot of additional customers that will
• 52:11
  want to use Starship, I don't want to steal their Thunder
• 52:13
  that's they're going to make their announcements and so, but
• 52:18
  I think this will get a lot of use.
• 52:20
  A lot of attention. It's like, said it's, you know,
• 52:27
  once we make this work, It's a naturally profound breakthrough
• 52:34
  in access to orbit and when you have an utterly profound
• 52:39
  breakthrough is the use cases will be hard to imagine.
• 52:45
  I mean, you know, when when aircraft first came along they
• 52:53
  were aircraft were viewed as toys.
• 52:55
  Like they were like a novelty, not a means of Transport.
• 53:00
  They were like, oh look, we can Fly Like a Bird briefly for
• 53:04
  briefly, in dangerously for a few minutes.
• 53:10
  You know, nobody at the time of these, I think very few people
• 53:13
  at the time thought that there would be a global aircraft
• 53:18
  industry. He with airports throughout the
• 53:19
  world carrying people. To every part of the earth in
• 53:28
  ridiculously short periods of time.
• 53:33
  You know, when when the Wright brothers first took off, I mean,
• 53:36
  most people were just riding horses.
• 53:38
  So you like, you know, like riding a horse.
• 53:42
  See this crazy device looks like Witchcraft and they would not
• 53:49
  have imagined that they would be aircraft flying tens of
• 53:54
  thousands of aircraft flying to every corner of the world.
• 53:59
  So I think we made this, this really could be an extremely
• 54:04
  profound situation and we really can't even imagine all the use
• 54:09
  cases at this point. Hi Ilan.
• 54:16
  This is Steve Clark with the Brownsville Harold.
• 54:18
  Thank you for the presentation. So at the FAA does come back and
• 54:24
  say we need an Eis. Does Starbase bounced back from
• 54:28
  that at some point. Yeah, I mean we're it would
• 54:33
  obviously set us back for quite some time because Annie is takes
• 54:39
  a lot longer than an EA so we would have to shift our
• 54:45
  priorities to Cape Kennedy. Okay.
• 54:49
  And the long-term, what do you envision for Starbase?
• 54:52
  Like a Spaceport with flights coming and going and Starship
• 54:55
  manufacturing or what is the future role of Starbase?
• 55:00
  The future also base, I think it's well suited to be kind of
• 55:04
  like our Advanced R&D location. So it's like where we were, try
• 55:09
  out new designs and new versions of the rocket.
• 55:15
  And, and then I think probably Cape Kennedy would be our sort
• 55:20
  of main operational launch site. And then I don't know over time,
• 55:25
  I think there's going to be will have floating space ports like
• 55:29
  ocean. Art's, we got these two
• 55:32
  converted oil rigs that are that are going to be turned into
• 55:37
  orbital launch sites and they can be moved around the world.
• 55:42
  so, you know, that guy, I think that could be quite a few of
• 55:48
  those and I think about like, think about like What would
• 55:55
  really work for long distance travel because the rocket is
• 56:00
  quite loud. You want to be, you know, I
• 56:05
  don't know 20 miles away from a major city or 30 miles away from
• 56:08
  major city just so you don't, you know, you're not just
• 56:15
  serving people too much. So I think probably most of the
• 56:20
  launch sites. Long term will be kind of Ocean
• 56:24
  or sea spaceports. So like baby may be located,
• 56:29
  like 20 miles 30 miles off shore.
• 56:32
  And this would allow Starship to connect any cities that are on
• 56:41
  the ocean, or on the sea and, and have a high flight rate, but
• 56:47
  without disturbing people too much.
• 56:51
  And I think people are willing to, you know, have Have
• 56:54
  something that's loud occasionally, but if you want to
• 56:56
  have it frequently than it probably needs to be offshore.
• 57:04
  Hello, you Lon can Gerlach with the SpaceX Reddit community.
• 57:08
  So you've talked a lot about how Raptor to is crucially important
• 57:11
  for Starship development and for the future of Starship.
• 57:14
  So I'm curious what general improvements have you made with
• 57:18
  raptor to, to ensure it's not only more efficient more
• 57:21
  powerful, but also, but also much easier easier to produce
• 57:24
  and less expensive as well. I'm faster and how do you, how
• 57:28
  do you plan to continue to iterate further on the design in
• 57:30
  the future? so, Raptor to is.
• 57:42
  An almost complete redesign relative to raptor1.
• 57:45
  So, basically everything for the tub Machinery to the the chamber
• 57:50
  and nozzle, the electronics, basically, everything has been
• 57:55
  redesigned. You can see the difference.
• 57:57
  But over there, the Raptor one versus Raptor Raptor to the, you
• 58:04
  know, a lot of the changes were deleting things that we deleted
• 58:08
  a lot Consolidated, a lot. The.
• 58:15
  Rotating Machinery, especially the Doozers of the toe.
• 58:18
  Pumps are a lot more robust. We converted a bunch of flanges
• 58:27
  to welds and we're actually over time will convert even more
• 58:32
  flanges to welds? I hate flanges you know
• 58:36
  especially if you've got a high pressure and Anna cryogenic
• 58:41
  fluid or super hot gas flanges and seals are a nightmare and so
• 58:48
  you know we've got parts of that engine that are You know sort of
• 58:54
  seven 800 bar lesser eleven, twelve thousand PSI, which is
• 58:59
  Naughty and and so just going to welded joints and instead of
• 59:05
  flanges was pretty helpful. The pre burner controllers have
• 59:11
  been Consolidated into sort of unified box, as opposed to being
• 59:15
  kind of, like all over the engine.
• 59:18
  So, and we're getting close to the point where I think rap.
• 59:22
  Or will not need shrouds. So shrouds a huge pain in the
• 59:25
  ass, like basically putting a whole shield around the engine
• 59:28
  especially for the again gambling engines where it's got
• 59:30
  to kind of like have like a sort of you know, I bull seal like
• 59:35
  it's like rotating in a circle with a hot gas seal.
• 59:38
  So with a bit more deletion and integration.
• 59:44
  I think we the engine will be sort of flameproof or less and
• 59:51
  and then we can get rid of shrouds.
• 59:52
  Which would be a big Mass savings?
• 59:55
  Yeah, so A lot more to go on we're also operating at a higher
• 1:00:03
  chamber pressure. I think I think we could
• 1:00:07
  probably operate I think over time we can operate it at 3:30
• 1:00:13
  bar sustained in the main chamber.
• 1:00:18
  And without having the the PreRunner pressures be too high
• 1:00:24
  by essentially not by losing less pressure.
• 1:00:29
  There's like a whole pressure ladder going from the toe pumps
• 1:00:32
  and prerunners to the main chamber and by getting rid of a
• 1:00:36
  bunch of the choke points. We can have less pressure loss.
• 1:00:40
  And so the pumps can effectively produce more pressure in the
• 1:00:46
  main chamber. due to less, if you feel less lost in this
• 1:00:53
  secondary systems, Germany and I have specific questions or sorry
• 1:01:02
  Ike risk apart with NASA space flight.
• 1:01:04
  Can you talk a little bit about the abort modes that are
• 1:01:07
  available for ship if there were ever to be a problem during the
• 1:01:10
  climb to orbit? What would be available to the
• 1:01:12
  crew in that regard and also on that same level of the life?
• 1:01:16
  Support systems for ship? Where do those stand and what
• 1:01:19
  are the challenges that you're finding with?
• 1:01:21
  Just the sheer volume in Starship for that?
• 1:01:24
  Thank you. So Sasha will not have an
• 1:01:29
  independent abort system, but I think something that would make
• 1:01:32
  sense is to have the Thruster weight of the ship, be enough
• 1:01:37
  that it could do a. It could take off from the
• 1:01:47
  booster even if the booster has a failure at the pad level.
• 1:01:50
  So you can get the the thrust to weight of the ship at sea level
• 1:01:55
  above 1. Then, even if Is something goes
• 1:01:58
  wrong with the Brewster. The ship can essentially fly
• 1:02:00
  away from the booster and so That's something that I think
• 1:02:06
  would be important for for carrying people and also, for
• 1:02:10
  high value cargo to have the ship have a Thrust to weight,
• 1:02:13
  greater than one, even at sea level.
• 1:02:17
  And then the there's like I said, I that would be like the
• 1:02:21
  nine engine version and and then even if you lost one engine, I
• 1:02:26
  think you should still be able to do an abort.
• 1:02:29
  So I think for crewed missions were essentially a beedi tank
• 1:02:32
  the ship To some degree. So that you'd have kind of a
• 1:02:37
  launch abort capability with a ship.
• 1:02:38
  Even if you lost an engine, that that would be my recommendation
• 1:02:42
  from a life support standpoint. We would have a Sort of, sort of
• 1:02:53
  a renewable I like before long. You know, we could scale up the
• 1:03:00
  life support system in dragon. That would certainly be an
• 1:03:02
  option and that would work for Missions that are say a week or
• 1:03:09
  two weeks, that that would be fine for Missions to Mars.
• 1:03:13
  You'd want a life support system.
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  That is a renewable. So it's essentially recycling
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  everything in a closed loop system with close to zero lost
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  Mass, so that would be a more advanced system, could have to
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  convert the CO2 back in 2002 and kind of recycle, you know, poop
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  and urine and stuff. Yeah, so that that's a harder
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  problem but it's not, it's not an immediate problem.
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  We can certainly scale up dragon for any kind of missions that
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  are, you know, a few weeks long Hi Ilana, Eric burger with
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  arstechnica. Thanks for taking some
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  questions. I'm wondering if you do get that
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  approval from the FAA in March. I know that there's really no
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  way of knowing. But could you talk a little bit
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  about the hardware Readiness, sort of where you are?
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  Technically, you know, the launched hours is pretty
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  incredible but sort of the rocket, the ground system
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  software, like, if you were to get some kind of approval from
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  the FAA and March, you know, would you be looking at, you
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  know, how quickly could the hardware be ready to go?
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  Yeah. I mean I think we're close to
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  having the hardware ready to go. So right now, I think we're
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  tracking to have the regulatory approval and Hardware Readiness
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  around the same time. Yeah.
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  So Yeah, Rhonda said you know, hopefully you know, basically
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  couple months for both. Yeah.
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  Hi, Seth murkowski was spacer. Sports.com, you mentioned
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  launching from the sea. Could you give us a update on
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  the current status of using Phobos and Deimos for Starship
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  operations? Yeah, so Phobos and Deimos thus
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  far have been a relatively low priority.
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  We needed to make the launch site here.
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  Work, this has been quite a difficult Endeavor.
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  So we do you, prioritize the Phobos and Deimos.
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  And just last month, we started to, we're going to take one of
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  them and, and build, at least a catch though.
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  On it so and and ultimately we will ultimately meaning like, I
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  don't know later this year. But will they a full launch
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  capability on on one of the platforms?
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  So, I think hopefully, by the end of this year, we will have a
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  launch capability at Cape, Kennedy at 39a and on one of the
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  ocean platforms as well. Hi Ellen.
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  This is Adam, Caledonia with cbs4 in NBC 23.
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  Here in the Rio Grande Valley. This is more of a community.
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  Based question. This past week, several BISD
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  students Community leaders and community members got together
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  to ask you a question and to show their gratitude, not sure
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  if you got that message yet. But they were saying thank you,
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  Ilan. And they wanted to know if you
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  would be able to attend their child's day's festivities here
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  in Brownsville. So on behalf of them, will you
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  be attending Childhood Days? It sounds like fun.
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  So like when is it believe it starts on the 19th through the
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  25th. So you have several days to
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  attend some data. Festival, Charities, parades,
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  enjoy some great food. I always see you there.
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  I will be there. All right.
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  That's going to be hard to follow up.
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  Hey, Lana, Tim died. The other day asked not here.
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  Okay, so a little bit more Raptor to talk again, where you
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  at, as far as production, how many do you have you know, you
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  you know are they how are they handling?
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  You know, testing are they more cantankerous, less cantankerous,
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  you know just give us a little more rundown like and we're
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  actually at is that a bottleneck for the next booster as well?
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  We assume the next booster is going to require, you know,
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  Raptor You so kind of where you at with with the production and
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  the and the testing so far. Well, I mean right now of any
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  technical problem, I'm spending the most time personally on a
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  Raptor too. Like really, they're like the
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  two things that occupy the most number of mental Cycles or
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  Raptor to and Tesla pull self-driving.
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  So the only remaining issue that we're aware of is melting the
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  chamber so that thing really wants to melt you know as feel
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  like on the order of a gigawatt of heat so it's pretty hot like
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  a gigawatts like it. What a nuclear power plant
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  produces so it really Is desperately trying to melt at
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  any point in time. So we've got, you know, a
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  flowing in an immense amount of cryogenic fuel to cool.
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  The chamber in the channels, we have headend film cooling.
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  We've got Throat film Cooling and we're just trying to get the
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  exact sort of balance between head and from Cooling and throw
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  it from cooling to, not melts the chamber.
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  I think we're pretty close. Like we have, we have a couple
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  engines in the stand that that have.
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  I think seven or eight hundred seconds of operation and several
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  start Cycles. So it's looking looking
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  positive. But that's the, that's the
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  that's the remaining issue. Is melting the chamber.
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  But in the meantime, we're scaling up old production to get
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  to one a day or better. So apart from melted Chambers,
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  we're doing well. We've got a lot of pumps, a lot
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  of electronics, the lot of PreRunner controllers.
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  So just a not melting. The chamber is very difficult,
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  is the kind of the last remaining challenge. but I think
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  we're very close to solving that and then the production system
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  is as a lot of momentum like I said, you know, we're really
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  Like next week, we'll probably make at least five or six, or
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  after twos. For example, and I think we'll
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  be at a 7 or week or better by next month.
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  But these does a crazy crazy numbers for Rocket engines, by
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  the way. Yeah, hi hon, Robert Pearlman
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  with space.com and collect space.
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  You mentioned the NASA contract for the human Landing system.
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  That one point. Do you envision splintering
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  splintering off development of Starship for hls or how are you
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  going to balance the timelines of Rapid reusability versus
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  NASA's own schedule of when they're ready to go to the Moon?
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  I don't think there's really a conflict there.
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  We're going to be making a lot of ships, a lot of boosters
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  obviously a lot of engines. yeah, it's kind of interesting
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  like the The with the booster with 33 engines and the ship
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  with nine engines is 42, here we go again and that also totally
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  total coincidence. So, You know adding legs to land
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  on the moon. We do not think is like that's
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  that can be done pretty quickly. So I yeah, I don't really see
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  any conflict between the achieving rapid reusability and
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  and getting to the Moon. Yeah, the high production rate
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  solves, many ills. So we're aiming for high
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  production rate. Hi, Lauren gresh with the Verge.
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  I'm wondering if you can clarify the number of launches that you
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  plan to conduct in order to do these re fillings, I know a lot
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  of numbers have been thrown around so I'm wondering if you
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  have landed on a final number and how quickly do you plan to
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  launch? Those missions back to back to
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  refuel the vehicle to get to the moon?
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  Thanks. yeah, so the the missions would happen pretty
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  fast for refilling the vehicles to minimize boil off of the
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  cryogenic propellant. So for the, for the vehicle,
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  going to the Moon, we have some insulation to minimize boil off.
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  But would probably be launching. I don't know.
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  Probably every few hours. Aspirationally.
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  So yeah. IE Lon Kevin.
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  Hey Meyer from space eccentric on YouTube and Rumble might
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  thank you. My viewers are really hungry to
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  know anything about the interior design for crude Starship.
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  You have hls. You have dear Moon.
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  And last, we heard maybe a year or two ago.
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  You were looking to hire Tesla employees to design the interior
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  for Starship. How's that going?
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  Well, we aren't fake fur. Singing a lot on the interior
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  quite yet, I mean that will be important down the road, but our
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  Focus right now is just getting to obit and proving out Return
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  of the booster and return of the ship.
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  Yeah, it's fundamentally very difficult to build a fully
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  reusable rocket, given the strength of Earth's gravity and
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  the density of our atmosphere. Like, there's no you can't have
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  a lot of mass margin. So our focus is solving that
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  Rapid or usability. Like I said, we'll have a high
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  production rate, so we're not dependent on Rapido, we're not
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  dependent on full reusability but but really that's the
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  Breakthrough. That's, that's fundamentally
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  important to change the course of human civilization to become
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  a multi-planet species. He on this will be the last
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  question for you evening on. I'm Duncan local resident or
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  cutting out. Is that better I've even hit my
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  name's Bob. Duncan, I'm a local resident
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  here in the area and first off thank you for A very cool
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  evening. So this has been a lot of fun
• 1:14:53
  for us. As the local resident has been
• 1:14:55
  exciting to watch the amazing progress.
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  The SpaceX is made here in Boca Chica and I was just curious.
• 1:15:02
  We're standing in a southern tip of the State of Texas where a
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  few hundred yards from your residence.
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  Could you just speak to what if anything has been appealing or
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  advantageous about operating in the state of Texas versus other
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  parts of the country? Thank you. well, I think we've,
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  you know, the well, I mean we've had a lot of support from the
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  community and You know, something that just happens over
• 1:15:34
  time with Society is that kind of rules and regulations build
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  up, and they build up, you know, more in some places than others
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  and they didn't, you know, I think Texas has the the right
• 1:15:51
  amount of rules and regulations. Yeah.
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  So well, thank you all for coming.
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  I hope you've enjoyed the evening and I think we might be
• 1:16:10
  able to get you closer to the rocket if you'd like and so what
• 1:16:15
  will get you as close as possible while still being safe?
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  And yeah feel free to you know take pictures have a good time
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  and yeah let's go like hell to have an exciting future.
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  Thank you. You.
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  You.