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Episode 142: Hosanna, Easter Ham, and Reframing Holy Week with Steve Frissell · MESSmerized - Funny and faith based encouragement in marriage , family , Christian parenting , and finding purpose

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is Cynthia Gannoff and you are listening to the mesmerized podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, you guys, welcome to the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You are in for a treat today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One of my favorite guests is Steve Fresel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He is a pastor at my church at Ben Tree Bible and hilarious and so much fun and also such a great communicator.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I heard a sermon he preached recently about Jesus being our king.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what does that mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What does that look like?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why do we not necessarily think of him as our king?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I thought, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the week at Easter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what we need to be pondering, thinking about,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he came on today, and we are going to laugh quite a bit and totally be off the cuff, but we are also going to talk about Holy Week and Jesus the sacrifice and what that means in our lives quite practically.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm always thrilled when he's here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's such a fun guest, and so you were going to enjoy him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Before we get there, I just want to put in a little plug, and
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[SPEAKER_00]: So grab a copy of that, you can get it quickly on Amazon or wherever you order books.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But today, like I said, Steepersel is here, and I hope that you have a great Easter week, and I hope this is a way for you to slow down and really, really think about the sacrifice that Jesus made for each and every one of us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, here we go, Steepersel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Steepersel, welcome back to the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How are you?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Cynthia, thanks so much for having me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, thanks for saying these.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's always fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I always think it's so fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I see you at church.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm always like, why is he not on the show more?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, well, maybe I should reach out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's going to come on the show more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Have I ever said no?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say that you are getting you are always so kind to give your time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think I'm will be on the show as often as you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, sweet, sweet on you, co-host,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, it would get very messy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mesmerize would get even more, to see for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so every time we start, we talk about this and you're like, why, I'm sure you're like, why would I have talked about this again?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm gonna bring it up again because here we are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you still like, well, last time I said, are you still throwing tires and lifting weights and you're like, I've never thrown a tire in my life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When you're talking about it, but are you still, are you still the workout pain and you're doing all the things still?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I, I do pick things up and put them down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wait.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wait.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wait.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's what it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You just keep picking things up and putting it back down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I, that's what I do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, about six days a week, I like to train, but I do weights four days.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So.
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[SPEAKER_00]: see it's not working well for me, because I'm picking up the fork and putting it down and um oh yeah you gotta you gotta pick up the right thing yes you need to pick up the right thing and put the right thing down so maybe that's what you didn't clarify last time yeah yeah yeah so since we've last talked um
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike, Mike has a Mike, you know, he, um, we both love John Acuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you knew who that is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, yeah, he's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he had said how one year he ran a thousand miles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Mike was like, you know what, I'm going to do that this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to run a thousand miles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Mike literally like had to do a million half marathons, a full marathon at one point, running all the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he did this this last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But in the midst of this, he got, that's pretty amazing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a lot of.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that's impressive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a lot of miles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's picking up one foot and putting it down Steve.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I'm right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and so he got super obsessed with, um, like just nutrition and all that, which I'm, I feel sugar into as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so then he wanted these runners boxes like a subscription, which we got him for some holiday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and I'm just setting the stage and y'all if you listen to them as to sidetracked, you may have heard some of this, but I'm just going to say it anyway for Steve's benefit in the rest of y'all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so our son that's a freshman college, he's a workout craze guy, and he eats only carnivore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so there's a whole situation over here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All just all me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm, and mostly read me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's wrote.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got to hold another thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So good thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He would college.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Someone else could be like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But so Mike got these all these health nets and Mike got into these David bars.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, so he loved the David bars obsessed with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he kept saying the Brett Brett, like literally I know you don't you know, but these are so healthy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you warm him up for 15 seconds, it's like a brownie and going on and on ordered him all the flavors.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So are you ready?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am searching the web recently for who knows what and I see that a class action lawsuit has been filed against David for the calories.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, for misroversing calories and fat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like double or triple or more of what they say it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I sin that to Mike and Brett.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, oh, and Brett goes, well, turns out it doesn't taste like a brownie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is actually a brownie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Mike's having like an existential crisis on this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, yeah, what in the world is happening?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sorry, did you know this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you like the David Bart?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What tell me about this?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, um, I was aware of the lawsuit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have David bar.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've tried them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't eat those consistently.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, they have great macros though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, I've heard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, they've got great macros.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, but I have also heard that, uh, the third party testing that was in for the class action lawsuit tested the calories a wrong way and that they weren't using the right, uh, the right way of
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who knows where it shakes out right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't know anything anymore if like if there's different ways don't know nothing now like everything you knew yesterday everything I don't know know everything's up in the air is Jesus real I don't know I mean I've got a lot of questions up to the different parts of the book that they've been far thing as me questioning all of it
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we've been laughing pretty hard about this in our house.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, um, so I told Mike, I'm like, well, just eat half of one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we have cases of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like, yeah, nope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've lost my trust.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the one other funny thing, and I don't know if you know this reference, but my husband and daughter love mean girls that, and I'm not by any means anyone saying that's the best show out there for your time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: however they like that maybe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when Mike went on the David website, like if you are a member in that maybe one of the girls tried Lindsay Lohan's character gave these diet bars air quote to the Regina George and it made her fat, but she said they were diet bars.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so Mike went on the David website and it said on there, don't worry nobody's getting Regina George over here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not sure we've stopped laughing in that reference.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I love that come back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's pretty great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty good, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's pretty great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's pretty great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I heard there's CEO was not Was was not just gonna apologize and but he's actually like push him back because it was calculated wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Well, there you have it that is my that's my workout.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd like to tell you about my workout and he's been said I'd like to make fun of my exceeding so there we are with that
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so we're going into Easter and I heard you preach a sermon actually wasn't there, but I heard it later when I listened and you talking about Jesus and the King and I was like, we got to talk about this, so we're going to get there everyone, but before we get there because it's just again who we are on this show, I just need to know going into Easter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like are we like a peeps guide, cadbury eggs?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I know that's not generally a thing which we're going to eat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, no, I'll leave both of them a little bit, but if I had to choose, I'd go cab area.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Would you rather decorate the eggs?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, I know you've got kids from like 60 down to two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I do have to have too many of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know I know in some wondering you know how you have to hold that dumb little thing to decorate the eggs and you somehow try to flip it like you want to do that or do you want to hide them which I'm going to hide eggs I hate every part of decorating eggs every part of it the trying to actually hollow out the eggs I did that in those early early parenting days we're trying to blow on the end of the egg.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, never again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're too old for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How about the yeah, how about those dumb confetti eggs?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That'll make you hate your family in about an hour after lunch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't need more messages to clean up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you got those.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Would you rather, okay, are you going to eat a devil egg?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you going to go ham or both?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'll go ham.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no, I, I, I need the hard boil part, but that other part.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that that's gross to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about the dress because listen, I, I mean, obviously I got a, your church now and we're laid back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The church I used to go to, like, we dolled it up people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm just wondering, if you were given the opportunity, no judgment from anybody, are you showing up at church in Searsucker or a muscle shirt, like has a cross on it or something?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because it's Easter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you know, obviously, I'd have to go with the sear sucker.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would not feel comfortable walking around church and and I'm also sure even with a cross on it, even with a cross on it, but and and I don't think I could pull the sear sucker off, but if I could that I would for sure for sure, pick that though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It talks a certain person, a certain person, the pull off the thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I don't think I'm that certain person be able to pull it off, but if I could.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That would be my Easter miracle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got a question for you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can I ask you a couple?
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because, I mean, just because it would be in the daddy and also years of doing student ministry, I often think in the would you rather world?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... so for you for lit would you rather give up uh... coffee or chocolate oh coffee because i only drink tight coke and that you can't see see yeah i mean it died co-versa chocolate man yeah you know i got to pick up things and set them down and so i mean i don't want to be eliminating but i guess i'd eliminate chocolate
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, would you rather I'm talking to your question you just asked church on Sundays, would you rather where Easter pastels all Sunday every Sunday all year or an Easter bunny costume on Easter?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's tough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is tough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, pastels, you're around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's rough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm going to show up literally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to show up at the Christmas Eve service and my, like, hail, yellow, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And people are going to be like, great thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really on set.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what that is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a tough one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Would you rather have on your on your podcast as a guest Mary Magdalene right after she saw Jesus in the garden or Peter right after he heard from Mary Magdalene that Jesus is alive?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mary Maglin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's under she's underrated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um absolutely right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's underrated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She hasn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, not really, but kind of next everybody else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, let's let's give her the spotlight for little while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm all about people that are marginalized and underrated a chance to have a voice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why you're here today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Steve.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you're just giving the little guy a voice.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thanks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I've enjoyed this journey, and as we're talking, okay, I'm going to get a little more serious, but remember, you know, well, I don't know why I ask if you remember you're literally on staff as a pastor at our church, but they do is it called journey to the cross.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's like a walk through it, our church.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They do every couple of years where you walk through it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of, tell me if I'm saying this wrong, but recreating the final days before the crucifix.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When you walk, okay, so it's really, it's like, I can't say this word because I always get it wrong is a poignant, I don't know how you said where, but that's what it is, whatever that word is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, even so with my little one, somehow it's still meaningful, it's just shocking every time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they have these different rooms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just wondering, when you go through it, like which part of that journey to the cross gets you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like is there any particular spot where you're like, wow, like this kind of unwrapped on my self in that moment?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that's interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've done it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We do it every three years in the time that I've been here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've done it four times, I think.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, each year, it's a different space and I think it's just, there's different parts of those moments before his, his death just capture and grab me in different ways in different seasons of my life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, there was, there was a year, it was such a such a simple thing, but it really meant a lot to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We had a, you went into a room.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was walled in and we insulated it and really tried to create a space where the acoustics were said that it was incredibly silent and that was a space for us to think about that after Jesus had been arrested.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... from the garden i guess emeny then he spent a night uh... he spent the night in some sort of a gel cell which is probably most likely like a hole in the ground and we don't know when he got in there and we know that they got him up early and started all the trial and all the stuff of of everything that happened on the day of his crucifixion early but just wondering what was that night like for jesus sitting in the cold alone
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[SPEAKER_02]: where it's still in quiet, you know, what were his prayers?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's one of those things that we don't have in scripture at all, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we just know he was arrested and spent the night in the cell.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no record of what that was like, but it had me thinking about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, so one year, it was just processing that, that I'd never really processed deeply before.
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[SPEAKER_02]: um, was really, really profound.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's another year where it was just thinking about when we're at the last supper, uh, what, what that was like for him looking into the eyes of all his disciples and having conversations with them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And what was the tone like?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, how quickly did they pick up the shift in his tone and the urgency in his teaching?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think in different years, it's been different spaces and rooms for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think the one you just referenced was mine, just sitting together around the table and taking the Lord's supper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know, it's just those moments.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I love that every year because, well, every year, I say every year, every three years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess by what this year, there'd just be a bunch of Sunday school rooms or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I love it because it is a intentional moment to slow down and stop and really think about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what I was hoping we could do today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: After we've gotten over the David Bar and all the other really important, hard hitting things with hard hitting important.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we'll then now we can get to what when you did this sermon a couple of weeks ago and the whole concept, the whole thing was based on
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jesus as our King.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was thinking about this because if you sat me in a room and asked me to give 25 descriptors of what Jesus is to me, I'm not sure King ever comes up right and I'm like, is something wrong with me like I acknowledge that of course.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's just not in, it's not in my vernacular and you talking out that I think is a worthy discussion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so let's just start there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why do we not necessarily, or maybe others do, but why do we not think King when we think, I mean, I think Comforter, I think Father.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I can go through a lot, but why do we not think King?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have some guesses as to why I think it's probably different for a lot of us, but I think because so much of what we focus on with Jesus is that he's our savior.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like for me anyway, I can say like the leading thing I think of his, he's my savior, he's my shepherd and that's how he's getting into maybe less title things but he's my hope and he's my joy and so I think of him in those often, I don't think about him as my king nearly as often as I should.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it could be just simply the fact that like we live in a democracy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't king thinking of a king and monarchy isn't part of our everyday world, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think there's part of maybe potentially part of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I also think.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder for me, I think about this for me, and I think I wonder how much of this is true for other people as well is I like to be in control and I have my control issues and I like to be my own authority.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I don't actually want to king.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, so there is that part of it, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes we talk about that with Jesus, like he's your savior, but he also is your Lord and Lord and King kind of have that same authoritative thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so in my fleshiness and in my desire for independence, there could be this thing, where I just don't even think of him as King as often as I should, because
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[SPEAKER_02]: out of a desire to mean my own authority, you know, and so I think that could be a part of it, but I also think, I don't, we don't talk about it, like it's just not common language that we talk about Jesus as our king very often, you know, so I think that that's just,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're gonna think about it like that more like what's the difference like I as you're saying them thinking okay So in in what way am I missing it by not thinking of as a king because and to your point like I like a Savior I'm not sure I want to be Lorded over you know what I mean Right like or a king or whatever that is and so what's what's why is it important to think about this this side of Jesus?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, uh, I think it's important because actually as you look at scripture, we see that this is actually all throughout scripture, uh, this whole understanding of king and kingship, um, and let's just also step in and recognize, we are citizens of a kingdom, like there is a heavenly kingdom that we're citizens of and.
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[SPEAKER_02]: kingdoms have kings, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like it's good for us to recognize what is actually true of us and what's true of our spiritual reality, what's true of our present and future reality.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So when we think about the kingdom a lot of times we think of like heaven as this thing some day,
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[SPEAKER_02]: But that's not even what Scripture teaches us about the kingdom either.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The kingdom is God's, it's the King's reign through his people wherever his people are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so he's, sometimes like we think, oh, we need to trust in Jesus so we can go from earth to heaven.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But when you look at Jesus in his teaching, all through the gospels, what we see, what he taught on the most is his kingdom.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the thing that he taught about more than anything else.
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[SPEAKER_02]: His teaching is way less about a morality.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's actually more about his monarchy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so we're missing like key things that he spent most of the time talking about when we're not thinking about one, his kingdom and to him being our king.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're just missing a lot by not even thinking about it in that framework.
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[SPEAKER_00]: well yeah i've been reading this book eternity is now in session by john or bird and it talks about how you have this opportunity um... when to decide that your salvation is a
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[SPEAKER_00]: security for heaven and eternity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it is, check the box.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they also have this opportunity to say that's power and authority for his kingdom to become part of my kingdom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And how do I get less of me into heaven and more of heaven into me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like how do we switch that around?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And even he talks to how in Jesus taught us to pray.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that kingdom come, that will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like how do I get that kingdom into my little kingdom?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And where I work and where I hang out with my kids, friends, and all the things I do, like, what does that look like to bring that down?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I like that you're saying that, you're talking how, like, it is a kingdom, and it doesn't have to be just eternity based.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if we consider him a king, not just of eternity, but now, like does that shift how we do live?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if we really lived with that framework for our days, I think we would all live a little bit different.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, I think we live a lot different, you know, just thinking, okay, today's not just about me getting through my day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It actually is about his kingdom coming through me here today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that changes the purpose of everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, what you just mentioned, that whole idea of praying Jesus, you're a kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But that's, that's praying a much bigger larger prayer than the prayers I normally pray, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like we're pulling out of like his kingdom, it spans beyond generations.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're praying like this metonarrative prayer of what God is up to from through all of time and what He has for heaven coming here on earth through us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: His kingdom reigns, and here on earth, and it starts within the heart of his followers, and one day it will extend to the ends of the earth, and we get to be a part of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it really, it radically shifts everything about how we think and see and behave when we believe that to be true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we know that the Jewish people at the time and some, now, believe that there would be a physical king and a Jesus would come and, and that, you know, there's a lot of questioning like you don't look like a king.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have authority to people around you with these one-off disciples and, and I don't know, I've just loved how in that sermon you kind of went through
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[SPEAKER_00]: Holy Week and what that looked like and establishing kingship in the most unorthodox way and I just wondered if you would walk us through that little bit like Palm Sunday and just all of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just thought that was like, let's relive this a little bit at what this looked like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Palm Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that first Palm Sunday was, I mean, I don't know totally what I was like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could just read what scripture was it, you know, but like it
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[SPEAKER_02]: It must have been such a wild experience for Jesus.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think one of the things I think about is a wonder for his disciples when they looked back on that day, how differently they saw it, once they were on the other side of the resurrection.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, what must it have been like for the other thing back to that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just before the whole thing, like, like, uh, did you grow up in a church where, like, it did palms like you got palms or did something on palms Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not as much, but when the church before when we were attending all when our kids were little so yes, they would all come out waving the palms in one time fun fact everybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike Yannoff was called to ride the donkey through the children's church service, and as Jesus, Mike was taller than the donkey, so his feet were dragging, and that was a whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As many of my friends said that people probably were turned away from the faith that day, it was awkward, but yes, we, and they all waved the palm branches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a whole life, guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Are there pictures and videos of this?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because if so, you need to post that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You guys deserve to see Mike Yannoff needs to be seen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I need to see Mike doing that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, uh, I think that day was very different than Mike writing on a donkey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was radically different than the experience that they had at church that day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But uh, so just before Jesus makes his way in, he's actually coming from Bethany.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And what he just did in Bethany was raised Lazarus from the dead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Lazarus had been dead for days.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There had never been a miracle like this before.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So at this point, people are convinced.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the Messiah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the promised one that they've been waiting for.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so when Jesus is making his way into Jerusalem,
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're cheering, Hosanna, but I also wonder, how many of them were pleading when they said Hosanna?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because Hosanna, it's a phrase, it's save us, please.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And these were people who are oppressed, they're under Roman rule.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a hard life for them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're longing for,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Israel for the Jews to be what they've always wanted to be and at a time what they used to be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so they're wondering, is this it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And can you be the one that can save us?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like, were people like, you know, I don't think this donkey was moving that quick, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so were they, were they walking alongside him?
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[SPEAKER_02]: How long were they walking along him?
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[SPEAKER_02]: How long were they looking at his eyes saying, save us, please, save us, please.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I think there was probably some pleading along with the cheering because this was a cry of desperation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so that's wild and radical, but then even to what Jesus is doing, the fact that he's writing in on a donkey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's making a massive statement in this moment because he is saying, yes, I am this king that you've been waiting for in their culture and in their world kings would write in and sometimes they would write in on a donkey and sometimes they would write in on a war horse And when they're writing in on a war horse it's them saying I'm coming to bring my reign in rule and I'm gonna do it by taking life at that's what's necessary
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[SPEAKER_02]: But when a king would make his way in on a donkey, it's his way of coming in saying, I'm coming in peace.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, here's Jesus, who is the Prince of Peace.
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[SPEAKER_02]: sitting on this donkey, making his way into Jerusalem, and yeah, I am the king, but I'm not coming in as the king that you're hoping or expecting me to be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm coming to be a king who will establish my reign, but not by taking life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be by giving my life, and they had no category for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No understanding of what Jesus was ultimately going to do and who he really was as
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[SPEAKER_02]: powerful moment where he's making a huge statement that nobody really understood.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so that's why I wonder like, you know, ten years later, like when Peter is recounting that moment with John, like, what's the conversation like when they're going, man, yeah, when he's riding on that donkey, we have no idea.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And what you was going to do was far greater than what we ever thought, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and even the people that we're pleading maybe pleading like save me, like you're saying, like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Jesus, like, I'm going to, just not how you think I'm going to, but I'm going to, and I mean, what, what, what a, what a word for even today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How many places am I saying, like, save me like do anything like I have, and I will continue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it may not look like you think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, okay, and so keep walking us through Holy Week them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's that triumphal entry that happens on Sunday then Monday rolls around and I like to call this is the temple tantrum Where
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jesus makes this massive statement there where he's like, hey, I'm upending everything and this system that you have here is not what it's supposed to be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And in fact, you were turning the father's house as a place of prayer into a dead of thieves.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's that whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tuesday is a day where he's back in the temple and he is he's teaching.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some of his teaching is recorded in that moment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: His authority is challenged, and he tells parables directly into that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a fascinating thing, like for those of you who are listening, you're thinking about that week, you could read Matthew 21 at 25.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It captures that whole exchange on that Tuesday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wednesday is called Silent Wednesday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What we know that happened on Wednesday is that that's when Judas agreed to betray Jesus.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's Monty Thursday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is when everything starts to speed up quickly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It starts with a sweet intimate Passover, where Jesus is around a table with his followers, his washing feet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You could read through John.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This just has such a detailed description of that night, that evening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is where Jesus does something radical where he changes Passover forever and when he brings in communion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he says, my body's going to be given for you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And and he says, and my this cup is my blood, a sign of a new covenant that's coming.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That is the forgiveness of sins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so he upends all of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then he has to garden a guess emitting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's one of those powerful things that I think about what that time of prayer must have been like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is where we see Jesus in all His humanity.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then He's betrayed, arrested, and then she's my language, but all hell breaks loose after that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it gets wild.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then He spends that night in the cell.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Friday morning is the trials.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, going back and forth to all these different places and then eventually ends up with Pylid and then there's this fascinating conversation that happens there with Pylid and Jesus talking about Jesus' King and Pylid's like, are you, are you the King that they say you are?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and and Jesus doesn't deny it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He says, oh I'm I'm a King, but
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[SPEAKER_02]: a king unlike what you could ever possibly think of.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then sure enough, they take a crown of thorns.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And thorns is symbolic with that we see from the Genesis that after sin enters into creation that thorns and thistles is a consequence of sin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we see Jesus then taking on this crown of thorns, he's wearing a very simple lip sin and he takes it on his brow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, they whip him and beat him, they mock him and worship the, the, the, the, the, the guards are bound to them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hail the king.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like it's just this hard thing to think about that this is what Jesus did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But this was his this was his whole inauguration and instead of him being exalted on a throne, he gets exalted on a cross and he's suspended between heaven and earth and that's from that very place that he is raining as king and he's making all things right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so here he is a king not coming in with a
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[SPEAKER_02]: reigning and ruling from there, and he is a king unlike any other king has ever been.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's why this kingdom is different than every other kingdom that there is to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He is radically different, a king that reigns through costly sacrifice, a king that reigns by giving life instead of taking life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a king that loves and serves at a costume self.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's wild to think about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is inauguration.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never heard of that way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you were preaching this sermon, you're talking about him being on the cross and his looking into his mom's eyes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just the people around and the experience that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, you go through this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you know, if you know some of, if you know biblical concepts, you know all of the stuff that precursors to this,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to understand how people don't see this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That Jesus is the Messiah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really hard for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have some really dear friends that are not believers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have some very dear family and friends that are Jewish and don't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And don't, this is the thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's comes down to kingship, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of them are so many.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess, what's your word on that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Does someone that may, I don't know why they're here if they're not a believer, but I hope they are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know what's your word on that, like, there's so much of its faith, there's yet so much history behind it yet at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if I'm gonna pick a king, this is the guy, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, this is a person that gave up all humanity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a person that came to love and to serve.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know, I just look at this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, give it a shot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: like venture out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just wonder what you would say to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm sure even asked you a question, but there's where we are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, since you're asking a great day, I think it's a question that for people who haven't even trusted in Jesus, but I think it's a similar thing that we even those of us who have trusted Jesus have to come back and consider and think about, what are the things that I put as a king in my life?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, even people who would say, like, I don't know if Jesus is all the things that you claim he is and that the Bible claims that he is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, then my question still is like, what is the thing that you see as a king that's worthy to you?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And what are you giving your life to?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And is it actually, is it working for you?
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[SPEAKER_02]: because I've spent my life bowing to so many other kings that have only let me down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the king of success, that's never gonna satisfy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's never gonna ultimately be enough for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The king of comfort, the king of reputation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How many of us have spent so many of our days bowing to the king of anxiety and worry?
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[SPEAKER_02]: we bow to the king of approval.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like something like, I'm a, I'm an immigrant, three, and I can, oh my gosh, I can get so bent around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: wanting and needing people's approval.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I can make that the king of my life so quickly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And gosh, that has just led me to so much pain and hurt and regret and disappointment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so the king of approval, the king of fear, the king of power, ultimately the king of self, all those kings have always and only let me down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, they've wounded me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So none of those kings have ever worked.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At least not for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for people who don't want to be lorded over, those are surely the things that lord over me, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But there is only one king that wears a crown of thorns.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's only one king that has defeated the grave.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's only one king that washes feet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's only one king that will lay down as life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's only one king that actually brings victory.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's only one king that satisfies and brings hope.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's only one king that will give you the name but loved.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's only one king that looked at you and said, you are worthy for me to lay my life down for.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's the only king.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that is worthy of our worship.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the only king that is worth following is the only king that brings me into a kingdom that makes my life make sense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, the journey of my life is, I've worshiped all the wrong things all the time, but when I worship the right king and when I bow to him, like that's the thing is, when I live my life bow to the right king, everything else about life makes them those sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: amen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What a what a word.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I thank you for walking us back through that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thank you for just making it real again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's frustrating to me that it's not real to me so often.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's frustrating to me that it's a story I've heard so many times, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it frustrates me at Christmas too, but it frustrates me at Easter and just to have someone like, let's dig back into this for a minute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, it's easy to look around to people that don't believe in saying, man, can't you see it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then I want to say to myself, and all of us, our believers can't you see it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can't you see that you are allowing things your life to be king that are not the king?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we know we know the real king.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so what a word.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so the I got a question for you, what, what, what are the things like when you're like, hey, I, I want to do something different For me to connect with connect with Jesus, where are those kind of things for you like what what resonates for you to connect with with the Lord.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's such a good word.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now that you say that I kind of want to know what it is for you, but so maybe we'll get there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I'll get there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For me, it's anything that changes the routine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so like, I just, I run in a certain routine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I have to change that routine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've said this on the podcast recently, but this fall is really crying out for something for JB, just my youngest from foster care and that just struggles, struggles, struggles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We need a win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, I just have been begging.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just proud of the Lord.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, we need a win socially.
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[SPEAKER_00]: academically, spiritually, like we need to win for this kid and I felt like that I had to change it up and so I did that Mark Batterson 30 days circle, Dvo, where you circle something and I prayed over him like I have never prayed over one of my kids maybe for better or worse but I mean just blood sweat and tears over that kiddo and wow I mean yes did I see the Lord really answer some prayers not like all of them that I would like answer but boy I see him change
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[SPEAKER_00]: impactful for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just switching up how I do things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the other thing is I have and I grew up very Baptist and love you Baptist out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I grew up very Baptist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get a Bible church now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we just didn't talk out fasting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I've learned that from my daughter and her friends.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they fast a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: when they're on college kids or right out of college.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when they're really boring or concerned, they just, they just, like, all together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, okay, we're all fasting for this today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's something I've tried to put back in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like the Lord is not only honored that but spoken in those moments.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, there's been a couple of ways, just in the last six months.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What about you?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's so good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There is something really cool about like physically embodying things, like when you're hungry and being dependent on God, like I love that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm very similar to you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I need to break out of my routine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've got like my things and there's something about
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh a reset or a jarring that like just kind of throws you off that you're you're in a different different space.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's that's important to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Also to um I love to I'm being outdoors is just a meaningful thing for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So something I started doing a couple years ago for me just to
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[SPEAKER_02]: help Easter not just come and go, especially for me in ministry because it's like we're just working and into a super bowl right it is one of the things I like to do and is I like to do it on Easter Sunday but if the weather's not going to cooperate I'll do it before or the day after I like to get up really early like while it's still dark and go out and walk and watch the sunrise I don't get to do that very often
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[SPEAKER_02]: But there's something for me about watching a sunrise right around Easter and that time of prayer and because it's like a I don't do it often I think that that reset of this is a different thing there's something powerful that God does for me, so I think for me when I when I think about like head into Easter, what do I need to do the
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[SPEAKER_02]: to let this not just go past as think about what's something that can be a little bit of a reset that's been when it's been good for me the last few years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm always so glad you're here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're so hard to get on the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's frustrating.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Every couple of years here we are right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I appreciate you taking time to do this and and prepping and it's not nothing to do this and so I want to thank you for that right before Easter of all things and then I also just want to say anything to listen to this if you're in the Dallas area and you aren't you don't have a place you're supposed to be Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have a place for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Ben Tree Bible is where I go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it doesn't have to be Ben Tree Bible, but you we would love to see you there live on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a whole bunch of really great churches wherever you live that would love to see you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I would just encourage you if you're listening to this and maybe I just, I still hear people post COVID that are like, Oh, we kind of listen online or this or that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not, there's no judgment there, but man, the body of Christ is there and let's go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's meet up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I got two things we need to talk about real quick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One is, especially for your listeners, if they are here in the Dallas area, you're going to be teaching here at Venturi coming up in May.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So what's Sunday is that you're going to be Christian.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying, I've got a little block going right now, but I'm kidding, but our pastor Liban always jokes, because I'm always like, of all the places I speak, nothing makes me nervous, except Venturi Bible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, the 24th of May, yes, I will be doing both Sunday services.
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[SPEAKER_00]: God willing, I don't pass out throw up or say something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How is it, heretical?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know that, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you going to be up there with a cane?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, you ain't going to be off the stage.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, listen, everyone needs a Steve Brazil in the audience because if nobody else will laugh at your joke, Steve Brazil will laugh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can hear it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I always appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Cynthia, I'm a huge fan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I love when you teach.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a sweet gift for us as a church and I love the way in which you share the life of Jesus has always been super fun for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Super impactful and I love it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I wanted to save just an ounce on the podcast, and this is in the most inappropriate way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a ride on theme for the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We are in a season right now, where we are looking at who are some potential elder candidates for the future.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I put your name in as one of our future elder candidates, because I think the world of you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's so kind of you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The whole church full of people are going to be like, huh?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What, but you know what, it was said here, the steam for Zell thought I was actually a candidate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, um, do you think they're going to get word of the fact that we actually never joined the church?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's always my joke.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we haven't switched our membership.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how to do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, don't tell people that part.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll keep that quiet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, maybe I can just like, write in your channel somewhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll check the box.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll just be again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is so wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I love I love Venturi and it's been such a great spot for our family and I'm just so grateful for all that you do and live in and all the people there and just thanks for reminding us as we go into Easter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're grateful Steve is all thank you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Cynthia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's always a joy to get to do this with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, guys, isn't either best guessed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I tell him all the time that he's so much fun to have on the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm thankful he took time in a busy time of year for church staff that he took a few minutes to talk with us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I hope that you spend time thinking about what we talked out today and just Jesus as our King.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what does that change in our lives?
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[SPEAKER_00]: and I am praying that you have a great Easter, and that you spend time with family and friends and have time to really focus on Jesus, and thanks for joining us every week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for being here, thanks for supporting this show, and more than anything you guys, thanks for being a part of the mesmerized family, you're the very best.